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A
I
will
call
this
special
session
to
order.
This
is
a
common
council
special
session.
A
Okay
at
the
council
session
council
member.
A
Clarity
sure
I'm
happy
to
move.
I
move
that.
D
B
A
A
In
second
will
those
sponsors
care
to
present.
I
do
believe
all
three
have
a
presentation.
A
C
E
Thank
you,
president
sims
I'll
begin
and
then
I'll
be
followed
by
councilmember.
E
Co-Sponsors
recognize
as
a
major
deficiency
within
our
budget,
that
is,
the
base
pay
salary
of
the.
E
As
the
resolution
states
in
the
past
five
years,
we
have
hired
66
officers
and
we've
lost.
E
Now
we
observe
that
this
loss
is
outpacing
recruitment.
We
agree
that
public.
E
Compelling
officers
to
work
extra
shifts,
we
believe,
is
unacceptable.
E
E
In
2021
are
now
outpacing
us
in
base
pay.
We
are
able
unable
to
compete
when
this
is
the
case.
E
Note,
respectively,
martinsville
receives
about
three
thousand
dollars
more
in
compensation.
E
And
seymour
receives
seven
thousand
dollars.
E
E
E
E
Material
support
for
for
the
police,
but
also
confirms
our
support
for
the
police
officers.
E
In
terms
of
their
situation-
and
there
are
difficulties
this
time.
E
A
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
G
G
Professional
well-trained
personnel,
a
decrease
in
professionalism
and
subsequently
a
bloomington.
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G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
A
Thank
you,
council
members,
for
your
presentation.
Do
we
have
anyone
here
from
the
office
of.
H
Thank
you,
council,
member
sims.
I
have
just
a
brief
comment
from
the
administration.
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H
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H
A
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
rooker,
and
now
we
will
go
to
council
for
any
questions.
A
Of
the
presenters,
I'm
sorry
the
sponsors
and
or
administration
council
member
scan
blurry.
I
Yes,
thank
you.
I
I
would
welcome
comments
from
the
sponsors,
but
this
is
actually.
I
The
complexity-
that
is
the
challenge
of
doing
so,
and
I
agree
that
there
are
lots
of
different.
H
H
I
C
The
administration
for
their
thoughts-
I
was
curious,
where
the
the
five
thousand
dollar.
E
Well,
yes,
this
was
meant
to
be
a
modest
increase.
It
certainly
isn't
a
remedy.
E
But
it
is
again
the
administration
insists
that
we're
that
they're,
that
they're.
E
E
The
and
I'll
just
say
that
rhetorically
at
this
point,
but
is
it,
is
it
adequate
to
prevent.
E
Gives
you
know
some
material
support,
and
it
also
indicates
to
officers
that
we're
understanding.
E
C
Curious
how
that
number
was
arrived
at.
Thank
you.
I
could.
I
could
jump
in
there.
5000
was
just
kind.
G
G
G
G
Them
with
whether
it's
the
additional
incentive
packages
or
is
it
base
pay,
is
it?
Is
it
sick
time.
G
G
F
Good
starting
point,
but
in
in
a
way
the
the
amount
of
compensation.
F
Perhaps
we
have
a
more
competitive
wage,
you
know
and
it's
more
politically
palatable.
F
If
it's
5
000
as
opposed
to
15
right
so
just
a
good,
a
good
thought,
five
was
just
a
good
thought.
F
Appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
everybody.
Yes,
please
just
to
say
that
if,
if
you
look
at
the.
E
Chart
where
you
have
the
basic
pay,
salary
plus
longevity,
if
you
just
look
at
the
base
pay,
I
don't.
E
Think
it's
materially
different
than
what
mr
I
mean,
mr
rooker,
and
we
I
don't
think
fundamentally.
E
Anywhere
near
the
top
tier
in
the
state
we're
far
below
so
you
know
five
thousand.
E
A
Thank
you
did
I
see
your
hand,
councilmember
rosenberger,.
J
Is
from
the
from
the
whereas
clauses
you
said
there
have
been
67
officers
leave,
so
is
that.
E
All
of
it,
yes,
but
we
note
that
the
if
you
go
back
five
years
or
prior
there
were.
G
G
G
Many
years
back
was
that
it
was
more
than
five
and
to
each
officer
in
every
year
that
they.
G
Provided
us
the
data
and
why
they
left
and
it
was
for
other
agencies.
In
some
cases
it
was.
G
From
other
departments
in
the
city
from
other
police
departments,
and
one
category
did
include.
G
Other
which
may
very
well
include
terminations
or
disciplinary
action.
What
have
you
we
were
not.
G
G
G
G
Because
it
did
include,
you
know,
information
that
we
might
not
want
shared
publicly.
G
F
J
Thank
you
yeah.
I
think
when,
when
chief
decomp
did
his
presentation
during
the
budget
hearings.
J
Or
else
he's
just
not
looking
at
them,
which
would
be
incredibly
weird
to
me.
Sorry,
can
we
so
we'll.
J
That's
kind
of
hard
to
I
mean,
but
it
would
have
to
be
shared
like
right
now.
I
guess
so.
J
K
K
E
E
Wrong
to
characterize
this
as
negotiations,
we
are,
of
course
we
oversee
the
budget.
E
And
we,
our
role
is
to
determine
if
there
are
deficiencies
within
the
budget.
E
And
they
they
were
never
manifest
in
the
budget,
and
then
I
would
say
our
overall
charge
is.
E
Included
two
sheriff
deputies
and
two
members
of
the
indiana
state
police.
Had
there
been
another.
E
So
to
me
this
is
a
matter
of
public
safety,
proper
compensation.
E
And
it
absolutely
should
involve
the
council
as
a
statement.
The
the
resolution
is
non-binding.
E
Of
course,
it's
states
our
preference
for
how
we
become
competitive
with
our
other
cities
in.
E
E
So
this
is
incredibly
important.
I
think
staffing
is
so
low
that
if
the
incident
yesterday.
E
E
Is
really,
I
think,
a
crisis
situation
that
involves
us
the
legislative
body
to
communicate
to.
E
This
crisis
and
thank
you,
councilmember.
I
I
wonder
if
somebody
who
is
involved
in.
K
A
Well,
if
it's
okay,
I'd
recognize
councilmember,
sandberg
and
then
we'll
go
to
mr
rooker.
G
G
G
A
Thank
administration
council
member
sandberg,
mr
rooker,
would
you
care
to
address.
H
K
C
A
A
Yes-
and
my
question
is
is
first
of
all,
is:
is
that
this
of
the
set
of
data?
The
second
one.
H
H
Set
of
data
points
because
benefits
don't
compare
evenly
from
city
to
city.
You
know.
H
Do
here-
and
this
is
sort
of
the
challenge
of
all
collective
bargaining-
it's
it's
a
difficult.
H
Bargaining
and
and
that's
the
nature
of
the
process
when
we
do
it
with
all
of
our
unions,.
H
So
so
I
do
think
that's
a
better
a
better
that
that's
a
long
way
of
saying.
I
think
that's
a.
H
A
C
Two
questions
related
to
collective
bargaining.
The
first,
I
think,
is
for
mr
rooker,
which
is.
C
Of
of
the
collective
bargaining
agreement
starting
next
year
and,
of
course,
mayor.
C
Hamilton
and
chief
digoff's
press
release
earlier
today
indicating
a
desire
or
willingness
to.
C
Start
that
earlier,
but
I
was
wondering
if
the
fop
has
already
approached
the
city
in.
C
Writing
or
otherwise
requesting
that
the
the
current
agreement
that's
in
force
be.
C
Reopened
in
any
way,
I
am
not
aware
of
any
formal
request
in
that
regard,
so
I
I
can't
speak.
C
Wanted
to
ask
about
is
a
section
of
bloomington
municipal
code,
in
particular
chapter
2.32,.
C
Of
which
are
defined
and
include
salary,
among
other
things,
so
section
2.32-070.
C
Unit
shall
carry
out
collective
bargaining
and
miss
guthrie
brought
this
up
in.
C
A
work
session,
but
I
guess
to
me
specifying
a
salary
level
or
a
raised
level.
C
C
This
is
acceptable
for
city
code
again,
but
I
guess
I'm
more
curious
to
hear
from.
C
Mr
rucker
about
the
administration's
position:
vis-a-vis
bmc,
chapter
2.32.
C
It
doesn't
matter
to
me
either
whoever's
ready.
No,
I
think,
I'm
not
sure
what
else
there
is.
H
A
F
But
that's
from
a
non-lawyer,
so
you
know
that's
that's
just
how
I
viewed
it.
It
didn't
seem
like.
F
Since
it
was
non-binding
resolution
that
really
wasn't
interfering
in
that
way,.
A
Comment,
mr
or
councilmember
well,
just
to
add
that
I
don't
think
the
status
quo
is
adequate.
E
The
collective
bargaining
and
clearly
we
have
an
extreme
problem-
this
base
salary
raise,
is.
E
By
I
think,
any
measure
a
rather
modest
step
forward
it
and
it
doesn't
preclude.
E
And
there's
much
more
room
to
bargain
frankly,
but
we
need
some
sort
of
immediate
attention.
E
A
C
Would
be
or
anything
like
that,
I'm
concerned
more
so
with
our
role
and
and
what
bloomington.
C
Code
specifies
did:
did
the
sponsors
consider
at
all
a
more
a
more
general
desire.
C
I
guess
the
the
possibility
of
indicating
a
a
general
support
for
increased
salary
or.
C
Measures
taken
to
increase,
address
recruitment
and
retention
issues,
as
opposed
to
specifying.
G
G
G
And
don't
live
here
in
bloomington
may
live
even
in
a
surrounding
county.
G
G
G
G
G
Think
we
can't
wait
any
longer
and
just
to
add
I
you
know
our
role
is
overseeing
the
budget.
E
E
K
Yes,
since
councilmember
rallo
mentioned
it,
I
did
want
to
inquire.
K
E
There's
certainly
arpa
funds
available.
Also,
the
administration
has
committed
250
thousand.
E
E
E
Would
and
so
we've
already
budgeted
basically
for
that
expense
that
could
be
utilized
in.
E
The
future
we
could
utilize
ps,
lit
money,
which
I
think
is
about
3.1
million
dollars.
Our
share.
E
So
those
are
just
some
suggestions,
but
there
are.
There
are
other
ways
avenues
additionally,.
F
Some
of
the
harper
funds
and
the
recruitment
and
retention
that
would
get
that
would
buy
us.
F
To
find
find
the
funds
it,
you
know
we
went
through
that
the
budget
hearings
we
all
saw
places.
F
F
And
so
if
we
have
to
tighten
our
belt
in
some
other
areas
and
add
it
to
the
the
funds
for
the.
F
Recruitment
and
retention:
let's
do
that.
This
is
a
really
important
issue
now
and
just
the
fact.
F
Salary
always
seems
to
be
the
central
cited
factor.
So
let's
do
that.
A
Council,
okay,
seeing
none,
I
have
one
for
legal
department
or
mr
rurocker.
A
Thank
you
for
coming
back.
You
indicated
that
the
mayor
has
indicated
he's
his
willingness.
A
To
maybe
open
negotiations
as
soon
as
a
month
from
now,
first
of
all,
is
it
true
that
both
sides
of.
A
H
It
is
true
right:
we
can't
negotiate
with
nobody
so
that
they
didn't
want
to
negotiate
the
contract.
H
A
Question
would
be
with
regard
to
this
being
a
non-binding
resolution,
and
should
it
prevail.
A
I'm
not
predicting,
but
should
it
prevail,
would
this
be
considered
as
being
involved
in.
A
Negotiations
or
meddling
in
negotiations
from
the
council's
part,
if
it's
non-binding
and
maybe.
H
To
be
difficult,
president
sims,
but
I'm
not
going
to
characterize
this
resolution
with
regard.
H
With
regard
to
something
like
that,
I
don't
think
it's
appropriate.
So
let's
use
one
of
those.
A
A
Hands
council
member
scandalory,
then
councilmember
sandberg.
Yes,
mr
ricker,
please
come
back.
I
There
you
are,
can
you
go
over
that
again?
You
said
that
the
contract
specified
the
current.
I
H
Can't
believe,
okay
and
that
what
we've
talked
about
today,
there's
nothing
in
this.
I
H
H
H
H
Very
limited
funds
at
their
their
disposal-
that's
not
the
situation
today.
Okay
and
those.
I
Those
would
be
decisions
that
are
binding,
correct,
well,
correct,
I'm
just
talking
about
typically.
H
H
G
G
The
immediate
term,
but
in
in
per
you,
know
it
to
be
sustainable
in
the
future
and
those
are.
K
Would
be
increased
from
250
000
to
500
000,
so
from
what
councilmember
rallo
said
in
response.
K
To
my
previous
question,
does
this
mean
that
the
sponsors
would
be
okay
with
using
that
money
for.
E
E
G
Specifics
is
how
they
intend
to
to
stop
this
attrition
rate.
In
addition
to
do
a
better
job.
G
H
Wanted
to
mention
very
quickly
just
briefly,
I
believe
council
member
rallo
had
referenced.
A
Rooker,
do
we
have
any
other
council
second
round
questions
before
we
move
to
public.
A
Without
further
ado,
mr
lucas,
do
we
have
any
takers
before
we
do
that
about?
How
many
do
you
see.
L
A
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
N
O
Great
thanks,
my
name
is
greg
alexander,
I'm
kind
of
astonished,
you'd,
think
I'd
be
excited
to
see.
O
You
guys
micromanaging
the
administration
in
this
way,
but
I'm
just
really
astonished.
You
know
the.
O
Other
city
departments,
it's
kind
of
a
question
of
priorities.
You
know
just
to
name
a
couple
of.
O
Shortage
they're
they're
actually
cutting
routes
because
of
it.
The
administration.
O
O
O
Their
mandate,
there
are
people
with
other
much
more
important
concerns
about
policing
than
my.
O
O
O
P
P
We
were
given
no
notice
of
this
and
more
than
the
anybody
else
in
the
world,
and
I
also.
P
P
Zone
and
I
appreciate
that
base
salaries
are
are
a
way
to
retract
and
retain
officers.
P
Accurate
of
the
comparison,
I
didn't
notice
that
where
it
said
we
were
12th,
I
think
you
this.
P
Council
person
sims
mentioned
it.
We
were
12
on
that
list
on
that
particular
chart
that
I'm.
P
Speaking
of
indianapolis
and
carmel
were
number
one
and
number
two,
and
I
noticed
that
if
you
added.
P
Five
thousand
dollars
that
that
would
put
us
behind
carmel.
I
do
not
know
as
number
three.
P
Comparison
to
hamilton
county
is
not
in,
there
is
true
or
not,
so
I
can't
speak
to
that.
P
But
I
do
know
that
it
will
put
us
up
to
number
three.
According
to
the
chart
that
city
legal
put.
P
Forward,
which
is
the
more
accurate
numbers
also,
I
think
that
maybe
even
the
idea
that.
P
Them
being
under
the
police
department,
you
know,
but
you
know
whatever.
P
P
P
Pulling
over
cars
that
they
have
profiled
in
some
manner,
you
know
there's
all
of
those
things.
P
Drastically
different
things,
and
with
that
I
yield
my
time,
you
have
a
great
day.
Thank
you.
A
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
A
You
for
your
comments,
miss
stone.
Who
do
we
have
next,
mr
lucas,
I
will
remind
the
public
to.
A
Please
indicate
your
desire
to
publicly
speak
by
using
the
raised
hand
function
in
zoom
if.
A
You're
on
a
mobile
device,
you
can
reach
us
by
using
star
nine
and
if
none
of
those
are.
A
A
Function
indicating
your
desire
to
publicly
speak
okay,
mr
lucas,
who
do
we
have
next.
A
R
Police
officer
for
the
bloomington
police
department,
his
name
was
charles
brown.
R
Councilmember
sandberg,
when
you
talked
about
the
program
that
they
had
about
the
cars
and
about.
R
Weren't
able
to
take
advantage
of
the
programs,
but
I
know
with
my
father
part
of
the
reason
that.
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
A
L
Can
come
back,
there's
one
additional
hand
raised.
I
see
at
the
moment
jessica,
oswalt.
S
T
Department,
I
just
wanted
to
come
and
say
thank
you
for
the
members
who
have
brought.
T
Issue
that's
been
happening,
but
something
that
I
kind
of
wanted
to
touch
base
on
is
the
role
of.
T
T
Unrealistic
vision
of
the
response
that
we
go
to,
we
will
go
to
very
low
risk.
Non-Criminal
calls.
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
T
U
Thank
you
for
hearing
me.
I
was
just
I
had
to
go
from
my
phone
to.
U
U
Probably
have
a
very
large
number
of
rookie
cops
that
are
under
slept
just
like
a
an
underslept.
U
U
U
U
And
many
times
I
see
in
the
community
where
we're
we're
creating
divisions
and
this
these
people.
U
That's
also
very
disturbing
to
me
and
I'd
like
to
see
that
be
remedied.
So
there's
a
number
of.
U
U
Evening
came
up
and
you
can
find
statistics
from
national
institutes
of
justice.
The
ncbi.
U
Nih,
matthew,
walker,
who
is
a
sleepwork
researcher
and
there's
someone
named
brian
villa.
U
U
Know,
chief
dekop
has
mentioned
that
he
does
not
want
to
put
non-officers
in
situations
even
in.
U
U
Situations
so
in
this
location,
I'm
sorry
I
could
not
find
that
tonight
to
forward
it.
U
U
U
Of
training,
then
they
need
to
stay
on
the
force
for
a
certain
number
of
years
or
get
that
type
of.
U
Money
reimbursed
from
that
individual
if
they
go
somewhere
else
that
could
help
our
retention.
A
L
I
don't
believe
so
now:
okay,
yes,
just
as
I
said
that
cody
forsten
is
up
next.
V
Forsten,
I'm
a
sergeant
with
the
bloomington
police
department.
I
first
just
want
to
thank
all
of.
V
You
all
for
for
considering
this
and
just
the
support
that
some
of
you
have
shown
us
over
the.
V
V
Know
that's
been
said
already,
but
just
for
instance,
I
I
help
with
some
of
the
training.
V
Recruits
we
have
three
officers
up
at
the
academy
currently
they're
getting
close
to
their.
V
Graduation
date,
and
just
to
let
you
know
just
how
quickly
our
officers
are
being.
V
That,
just
to
let
me
know
that
he
was
already
being
recruited
by
another
department
that
pays.
V
Better
than
ours,
it's
it's
very
serious.
The
people,
the
candidates
that
are
up
at
the
academy.
V
V
Just
to
send
an
officer
to
the
academy
and
when
we
can
spend
that
money
and
turn
it.
V
We
we
have
no
way
to
recruit
that
if
they
turn
around
and
leave
within
a
year,
it's.
V
V
Great
benefits,
but
those
are
in
addition
to
the
base
pay
that
you
know
might
attract
some
and.
V
To
others,
they're
they're,
not
that
important
everybody
that
that
looks
at
the
various.
V
V
V
Out
there,
so
with
that
you
know
I
I
appreciate
I
just
want
you
all
to
know
that
we
all
see.
A
Seeing
none
we'll
now
go
back
to
council
for
any
further
questions
or
final
comments.
A
Council
member
smith,
thank
you,
president
sims
I'd
like
to
thank
miss
stone,
miss
carson.
F
Michelle
and
and
officer
forsen
for
their
comments
and
other
people's.
F
Comments
as
well,
it's
all
part
of
understanding.
This
whole
process.
F
Some
people
mentioned
proactive
policing
and
you
know
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is.
F
Possible
with
you
know,
a
well-staffed
department,
and
I
hope
that
we
get
that
direction.
F
Go
that
direction
and
and
are
successful
at
that
it
will
improve
our
community
and
and
the
staff.
F
On
the
the
bloomington
pd,
I
also
wanted
to
say
that
when
I
mentioned
earlier
that
there's
some.
F
Could
allocate
towards
officers
sworn
officers
yeah,
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
distinguished.
F
And
they're
doing
a
fantastic
job.
I
got
to
work
with
ms
stone
a
little
bit
before
so.
F
She's
doing
a
fantastic
job
and
so
are
the
rest
of
them.
So
I
just
hope
everybody.
F
A
C
Sponsors
of
the
resolution
for
bringing
this,
and
certainly
members
of
public
officers.
C
Not
reaching
out
myself,
I
appreciate
it
very
much
what
you
were
able
to
share
as
well.
C
I
think,
like
most
my
colleagues
and
like
the
administration
as
well,
I
we
have.
I
think
we.
C
The
administration
is
willingness
to
open
the
the
the
contract
negotiations
even.
C
Earlier
to
start
to
address
that,
so
I
very
much
agree
with
with
the
challenges.
C
As
well
as
to
some
extent
what
we
need
to
do
about
it,
I
think
where
this
resolution
loses.
C
C
C
Hr
and
the
committee
of
the
fop-
and
I
just
don't
think
our
role
of
fiscal
oversight.
C
C
C
Isn't
the
best
suited
entity
to
be
specifying
the
salary
level
so
I'll
be
voting
now
tonight,
but.
C
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
gone
into
this,
as
well
as
the
motivating
sentiments
behind
it.
A
Thank
you,
councilman
flaherty.
Do
we
have
councilmemberallo.
E
And
that's
what
this
resolution
does.
We
are
training
kalia
certified
officers
essentially.
E
E
The
turnover
as
we
observe
factually
is
in
the
extreme.
That's
not
good
for
any
organization.
E
But
it's
particularly
worrisome
for
public
safety.
E
Public
safety
must
take
a
precedent.
Greg
alexander
talked
about
other
departments
and.
E
And
so
we
can't
afford
overworked,
undervalued,
underpaid
police
officers,
which
is
putting.
E
E
Melissa
stone
noted
that,
and
I
forgot
to
mention
that
we
were
so
understaffed
during.
E
E
Take
calls
for
over
an
hour
yesterday
so
had
there
been
another
incident,
it
would
have
been
a
a.
E
Disaster
miss
brown
sparks
refers
to
in
this
alt,
while
oswald
talked
about
what
I
think
was.
E
You
know
the
value
of
proactive
policing
and
council
council
member
smith
spoke
to
that.
E
Neighborhoods,
this
is
important
for
everyone.
It's
important
to
the
residents
for
the
police.
E
E
No
matter
what
data
you
use,
whether
it's,
whether
you
rank
a
68th
or
50th,
it's
unacceptable.
E
For
a
bloomington,
which
is
the
seventh
largest
city,
that
by
the
way,
has
experienced
large
city.
E
Have
to
wait
for
an
uncertain
outcome.
A
number
of
us
have
said
that
we've
made.
E
Experienced
this
latest
memo
was
meant
to,
I
think,
obscure
the
value
of
this
particular
resolution.
E
E
It
occurred
minutes
before
the
meeting
from
the
administration.
This
topic
is
well
within
our.
E
Domain,
we
set
salaries,
that's
what
we
do
in
the
budget.
We
also
do
this
with
within
the
budget.
E
Various
members
of
the
our
staff,
so
we
do
this
all
the
time.
That's
that's!
Well!
Within
our
domain.
E
E
A
suggestion
it's
an
unbuying
resolution,
of
how
to
address
it.
It's
within
our
role
of
ensuring
the.
E
In
a
better
position
competitively
so
I'll
conclude
there,
thank
you
for
your
consideration.
A
Thank
you
very
much.
Other
final
comment
from
council
members.
A
Okay,
council
member
scan
blurry,
yes
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
all
my
colleagues
too.
This.
I
Has
been
a
really
helpful
discussion
to
me
to
hear
these
different
perspectives.
I
I
To
hear,
certainly
from
sworn
officers,
but
also
from
social
workers,
our
bpd
social
worker.
I
Sparks
to
hear
the
perspective
of
someone
who
is
in
a
law
enforcement
officer's
family.
I
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
wanna
I
wanna
go
back
to
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
shared
with.
I
Pay
attention
to
in
regards
to
this
issue,
I
think
there's
consensus
that
we
have
issues.
I
Resource
officers
and
administration
has
indicated
on
several
occasions
that
we
need
to
do.
I
All
those
things
equally,
every
year
we
need
to
stay
after
them.
I'm
inclined
to
agree
to
a.
I
Point
I
do
think
we
need
to
attend
to
all
three
of
those
things
where
I
disagree
is
that
I
think.
I
I
And
I
think
this
year
is
one
such
example.
The
second
argument
is
that
council
is
getting.
I
Out
of
its
lane,
by
inserting
itself
in
contract
negotiations
and
and
some
people,
I
respect
a.
I
Great
deal
on
staff
have
have
expressed
their
concerns
about
that
and
I
take
that
very
seriously.
I
I
And
it
doesn't
have
the
power
to
do
that
either.
I
I
think
the
health
of
public
safety
is
a.
I
I
Take
us
out
of
our
lane,
so
that's
where
I
am
on
that.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
and
applaud.
I
What
the
mayor
has
done
in
setting
aside
250
000
and
that's
now,
500
000
in
arpa
funds
for.
I
I
I
We
don't
aspire
to
be
stuck
in
the
bottom.
Third,
we
want
to
be
a
good
employer.
We
have
argued
about.
I
Have
heard
about
the
impact
on
officers,
what
was
particularly
compelling
to
me,
though,
is
we.
I
I
I
To
continually
recruit
new
and
train
new
if
we
want
proactive
policing,
if
we
want
the.
I
I
Recruitment
and
retention
issue-
or
I
don't
see
a
way
of
it
getting
better
so
public
safety
is.
I
Critical
to
what
government
does,
I
think
this
non-binding
resolution
isn't
enough
to
trigger
a.
I
K
Yes,
thank
you
and
thank
you
to
every
single
person
who
spoke
during
the.
K
Public
comment:
I
appreciate
all
the
input
I'm
gonna
be
supporting
this
tonight.
K
It
is
an
emergency
situation,
retention
is
very
poor,
morale
is
very
low
and
these.
K
K
K
Public
safety
for
them
because
of
their
past
experiences
or
because
of
their
race.
Let's.
K
In
treating
people
of
all
the
races
with
respect,
so
I
just
want
to
emphasize.
K
K
K
I'm
supporting
this
resolution
this
evening.
It
is
non-binding
and
therefore
I
think
it
is.
K
For
the
the
actual
dollars
that,
hopefully,
will
come
to
our
officers
and.
K
For
the
morale
of
our
officers,
so
thank
you
to
the
sponsors
for
bringing
us
bringing
this
forward.
J
J
Little
scattered
tonight,
so
here
we
go
first,
I
will
just
start
saying
I
plan
to
abstain
from
this.
J
J
J
A
result
of
a
poor
budgeting
process
that
we're
all
trying
desperately,
I
think,
to
reorganize.
J
J
J
J
J
J
Think
that
was
a
really
great
idea,
and
I
hadn't
heard
that
before
there
was
one
other
thing.
J
J
Health
providers,
folks,
practitioners
and
with
folks
experiencing
homelessness.
I
think.
J
So
that's
where
I
am
on
this.
I
just
think
there's
a
lot
more
digging
to
do
and
disgusting.
D
Address
them
as
I've
scrap
scribbled
them
down.
There's
no
question
that
bloomington
is.
D
D
I
don't
really
think
that
salaries
or
their
negotiation
is
the
biggest
issue
here.
It
hasn't.
D
I
don't
think
that
this
is
necessarily
a
negotiation.
It
does
make
the
negotiators
hand.
D
D
Resolution
has
been
worth
this
much
trouble
to
discuss.
To
be
honest
because.
D
It's
a
non-trivial
tool
to
use,
but
I
I
do
do
want
to
say
that
I'm
very
encouraged
to
hear.
D
D
D
Us
somehow
taking
control
over
departments,
the
sponsors
have
correctly
identified
their
role
as.
D
D
Of
joy,
it's
a
it
would
be
a
hard
thing
to
do.
I
kind
of
don't
blame
the
sponsors
for
not.
D
A
police
department
only
to
deprive
them
of
sleep
and
rest.
This
was
the
very
issue
that
I.
D
D
D
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
A
D
D
D
That
they
ought
to
look
for
dollars
in
another
department,
not
necessarily
in
the
police.
D
Department,
if
that
is
the
the
content,
the
content
of
their
convictions,
I'll
also
point
out
that.
D
A
City
and-
and
I
really
truly
want
to
thank
you
for
your
service-
also,
the
resolution
sponsors.
A
Bloomington
police
officers,
at
least
as
far
as
I
understand
and
and
I
served
on
the
board.
E
Mention
of
education
and
training,
I
do
don't
recall
that
we've
ever
hired
or
not
ever
during.
A
The
socialization
standpoint
now
not
every
case
back
then,
but
I
think
now
that's.
I
think.
A
We'd
be
hard-pressed
to
say
that
we
have
a
officer
that
doesn't
meet
that
those
standards.
A
And
further
education
could
be
in
an
incentive
and
something
that's
desirable.
The
problem
with.
A
Here
and
there
there
is
simply
no
time
for
those.
It's
simply
no
time
for
internal
training
for.
A
We
got
a
training
facility
if
you
work
time
and
a
half
for
a
while,
then
you're
not
going.
A
A
Level,
first
of
all,
and
then
hopefully
we
can
get
to
the
gist
of
what
is
some
of
the
problems.
A
Cut
any
of
those
positions,
that's
not
the
intent
one
of
the
things
it
has
to
be
prioritizing.
A
A
Just
needs
more
time
to
bake.
I
do
think
I
want
to
thank
council
member
flaherty
for
discussing.
A
In
a
little
more
detail,
though,
blew
me
to
municipal
code
and
it
makes
sense,
I
will.
A
A
This
is
serious
and
I
think
we
all
are-
and
I
think
that
was
the
implications
of
that.
A
This
is,
this
is
tough
and
I
think,
as
we
move
forward
the
message
that
will
be
sent.
A
A
To
do
some
things
from
a
priority
standpoint.
Another
point
the
message:
I
think
we
want
to
send.
A
A
And
I
hope
everyone
can
begin
to
take
this
serious,
I'm
not
about
micromanaging
and.
A
The
other
issues
we
were
talking
about
defining
a
reasonable
time.
If
you
ask
nine
people.
A
Goal
there
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
here.
We
just
want
to
send
a
message.
A
A
Being
safe
in
bloomington-
and
I
will
say
this
is
one
of
my
other
colleagues-
say
that.
A
Okay,
that's
my
two
cents.
Do
we
have
any
other
final
comments.
A
J
B
L
L
A
Ado,
I
know
we've
had
discussions
on
this
as
well.
I
will
accept
a
motion
to
adjourn.