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From YouTube: Bloomington Environmental Commission, August 17, 2023
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Well,
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
tonight's
meeting
to
order
it's
602
on
August
17th,
so
it's
nice
to
have
Connor
I
just
saw
your
face.
Welcome
back
to
town
yeah,
we've
got
a
nice
agenda
waiting
for
us
today,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
I
can
see.
We've
got
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
proceed,
but
first
things.
First,
we
can
go
around
and
do
just
the
roll
club.
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Hi
I'm
Tara
gonguli
I'm,
a
college
student
at
UCLA,
I'm,
double
majoring
in
environmental
science
and
French,
but
I
grew
up
in
Bloomington
and
I'm
here
for
the
summer.
I
just
like
wanted
to
know
more
about
what's
going
on
for
this,
but
also
I
am
doing
this
research
project
on
the
interaction
of
like
having
a
university
in
a
town
and
how
that
affects,
like
Municipal
governance.
So
I'm
kind
of
taking
notes
on
that.
Thank
you
all
for
making
the
opportunity
for
us
to
be
here.
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Yeah,
thank
you
so
much
yeah.
Thank
you
to
all
the
environmental
Commissioners
here
tonight
for
allowing
us
to
speak
about
such
an
important
project
here
today,
as
I
mentioned,
my
name
is
Nashua
route,
song
I'm
a
long
time,
Bloomington
resident
and
a
five-year,
because
member
that
the
Bloomington
Commission
on
sustainability.
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Members,
thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
The
lovely
introduction
our
position
was
specifically
created
by
the
councilman,
be
the
New
Hope,
exploring
traditional
and
sometimes
called
alternative
or
community
and
purchase
the
policing
and
Public
Safety
alternative
Public
Safety
is
in
contrast
to
the
traditional
law.
Enforcement-Led
systems
of
Public
Safety,
such
as
the
one
that
exists
in
Bloomington
by
the
police
department,
leads
Public,
Safety
and
crisis
response,
while
the
goals.
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A
As
well
as
cost,
and
that
greatly
reduces
the
harm
that
is
perpetuated
by
traditional
policing,
lens
approaches
to
the
public
sector,
okay
next
slide,
our
process
generally
followed
the
design-centered
entrepreneurship
process
of
social
Innovation,
and
this
is
from
business
entrepreneurship
field.
But
it's
been
adapted
for
social
entrepreneurship,
where
you've
simply
replace
business
goals
to
enhance
the
evidential
basis
for
our
work.
We
added
a
root
cause
analysis
and
to
that
local
share.
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A
Reports
in
scholarly
works
on
community
safety
and
policing.
We
next
use
this
data
to
identify
key
stakeholders
and
then
performed
a
six-month
community
outreach
campaign
to
gather
diverse
perspectives
on
these
issues
from
the
people
in
our
community
consent.
Driven
means
that
our
work
is
based
on
a
method
of
governance
and
decision
making
for
all
the
people
whose
lives
will
be
impacted
by
a
decision
are
involved,
but
the
opinions
of
those
whose
lives
will
be
impacted.
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The
report,
as
you
will
see
in
the
80,
Pages
or
so
of
community
stakeholder
testimonies
in
a
report
appendix
this
community
cares
a
lot
about
ensuring
everyone
has
access
to
a
life
of
safety
and,
what's
more,
we
already
have
all
the
ideas
and
resources
in
our
community
to
do
that.
So
our
job
on
the
Caps
commission
was
really
just
to
find
all
the
pieces
of
this
puzzle
and
put
them
together.
Now
that
we've
done
that
we
are
sharing
our
work
with
the
wider
Community
to
continue
the
next
steps
of
the
process.
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Is
persistence
and
growing
barriers
to
absence
of
important
safety
resources
in
our
community?
The
second
is
confusing,
using
frequently
conflicting
goals
of
existing
City
departments,
who
are
currently
tasked
with
Improvement
group
publicated
and
prevents
from
prioritizing
human
safety
in
all
of
their
operations.
For.
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A
Is
a
functional
Gap
around
coordinating
a
strategic
response
to
this
public
to
this
growing
Public
Safety
tracks
in
our
Outreach,
we
found
that,
despite
all
stakeholders
and
being
that
a
better
coordinated
response
is
responses
needed
to
resolve
these
problems.
No
existing
facility
particles,
we
are
coordinating
such
a
response
as
within
their
career.
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A
Ourselves,
how
might
we
recommend
a
city
program
that
can
solve
all
of
these
systemic
problems
that
can
allow
our
community
to
take
a
strategic
response
to
these
emerging
threats
to
Public
Safety?
The
main
recommendation
is
to
is
the
creation
of
a
new
Department
of
Community
safety
and
resilience
or.
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That
will
prioritize
upholding
Community
safety
and
resilience,
above
all
other
goals
in
the
immediate.
In
short
term,
the
primary
role
of
a
dcsr
will
be
to
create
a
non-coercive,
highly
trained
peer
responder
team
who
can
respond
to
the
growing
numbers
of
service
calls
to
9-1-1
for
low-level
non-violent
calls
for
help
that
do
not
require
an
armed
law
enforcement
officer
response
such.
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Besides
this
critical
short-term
role,
however,
the
dcsr
also
has
a
fundamental
long-term
role
as
the
world
around
our
city
changes
and
the
threats
to
our
community's
safety
evolve
over
time.
The
dcsr
will
maintain
public
data
dashboards
that
track,
anticipate
and
show
how
it
is
responding
to
these
threats.
Once.
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A
Cities
such
as
Denver
Colorado
Oregon,
who
have
taken
Community
safety,
lab
approaches,
have
seen
cause
reductions
in
public
safety,
emergency
and
ambulance,
standing
that
work
done
covered
the
cost
of
operating
those
problems,
those
programs.
Furthermore,
they
have
experienced
reductions
in
overall
crime
and
violent.
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Organizationally,
the
dcsr
will
enable
the
city
combine
several
of
the
most
important
state
related
Services
into
one
Department,
whose
main
objective
is
human
safety,
while
working
to
identify
and
resolve
competing
goals
that
exist.
Other
departments
that
directly
impact
safety,
a
visibility
studying
chemical
of
our
commission
decides
what
currency
these
Services
might
be
better
carried
out
by
dcfr
and
how?
How
best
to
structure
that
department
to
collaborate
with
other
City
departments.
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One
indicator
most
strongly
correlated
with
producing
higher
levels
of
prime
violence,
mental
illness,
drug
use,
homelessness
and
environmental
pollution
is
economic
inequality.
In
the
book,
the
inner
level
pictured
there.
Greater
inequality
in
societies
has
been
tracked
to
higher
status,
competition
and
therefore
higher
levels
of
consumption,
higher
levels
of
violence
among
people
and
less
concern
for
the
natural
environment
around
us.
This
book
was
written
by
an
economist
in
an
epidemiologist.
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Value
the
importance
of
economic
protections
for
the
environment
or
sorry
Environmental
Protections
nor
psychological
Studies
have
confirmed
that
higher
levels
of
inequality
increase
feelings
of
insecurity
at
all
income
levels.
They
erode
social
trust
and
makes
people
much
less
likely
to
work
together
for
the
common
good
environment.
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A
Have
already
had
the
letter
to
Mayor
Hamilton
on
the
last
page
of
the
handout
we
gave
you
we've
already
had
that
letter
asking
him
to
fund
our
budget
requests
endorsed
by
several
community
members,
including
Charlotte
ziplo
Nick
Voyles
of
the
Indiana
recovery,
Alliance
Vicki
Pierce
of
the
Community
Kitchen
Donna
storm
of
middle
lay
house,
Joe
Jolla
of
Monroe
County
Casa,
and
bring
the
cans,
a
local
youth
activist
and
high
school
student
who's.
Also,
a
member
of
Health
ourselves,
Mutual
Aid
because
of
the
sorry,
the
environmental
commission.
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We
are
where
he
Sophia
and
I
are
here
to
invite
the
environmental
commission
to
support
and
collaborate
on
this
project
with
us
in
the
next
steps,
which
include
creating
a
feasibility
study.
Finding
a
qualified,
firm
and
ensuring
a
user
dcsr
will
keep
Bloomington
State
resilient
and
environmentally
sustainable
for
many
generations
to
come.
Thanks
for
letting
us
speak
today.
Are
there
any
questions.
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A
An
endorsement
so
I
realize
that
might
take
a
meeting
or
two
to
get
through
the
pipeline
if
anyone's
interested.
But
in
the
meantime,
if
anyone
does
want
you
to
visually
indirect,
they
can
just
send
me
an
email
yeah.
The
detailed
report
is
attached
to
the
email.
I
think
yeah
support
all
right.
Okay,
thanks
so
much
again:
okay,
perfect!
Are
there
any
questions
right
now
for
either
the.
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Like
have
like
a
more
cohesive
approach,
yeah
so
I
mean
our
commission.
We
don't
think
should
necessarily
try
to
decide
all
the
details
of
any
of
this
right.
I
mean
business.
For
instance,
the
emergency
dispatch
protocols
should
be
divided
in
collaboration
with
existing
Public
Safety
providers
and
the
human
Department
we
would
have,
but
for
it
to
answer
your
specific
question
yeah.
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Actually,
we
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
current
city
services
that
fall
I'm
very,
very
much-
should
fall
under
this
category
and
probably
be
better
managed
honor
in
organization
between
design
for
human
safety
that
we
would
hope
in
the
feasibility
study.
That
would
come
out
of
the
organizational
section,
and
that's
specifically
what
that
is
supposed
to
do.
The
organizational
part
is
for
the
because
the
consulting
firms
do
this
all
the
time
they
decide
which
Services
would
be
best
moved
on
or
which
department
and.
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A
Yeah
I
mean
we
and
we
certainly
don't
want
to
make
all
the
decisions
you
know
essentially,
that's
why
we're
we're
kind
of
touring
select
commissions
that
this
needs
to
really
relate
to
to
say.
Look
now
we
want
you
all
to
help
us.
Take
the
next
steps.
You
know,
design
do
design
and
RFQ
choose
a
qualified
firm
decide
what
you
would
want
to
see
in
an
in
a
department
like
this,
so.
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A
Simply
as
far
as
a
practical
approach
to
solving
this
problem
from
problem
solving
perspective,
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
evidence
out
there
that
if
you
want
to
move
the
needle
on
environmental
things,
we
want
also
need
to
move
the
needle
forward,
but,
frankly,
economic
inequality,
which
is
a
major
indicator.
But
you
know
when
people
don't
feel
secure
when
they
have
low
levels
of
social
trust.
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Right,
obviously,
I'm,
certainly
not
stating
that
I
value
the
environment
less
than
you
know,
safety,
or
something
like
that
I'm
just
stating
that
these
are
these
are
these
are
such
things
that
have
been
made
in
that
in
that
book,
that
I
put
up
there
and
I'd
be
happy
to
share
it
with
you,
there's
a
whole
chapter
on
there's
actually
two
chapter
on
the
environment
in
the
climate
and
all
the
data
that
I
think
that
has
linked
together
so
and
support
and
would
like
the
dead.
And
frankly,
we
don't
need
to
be
the
odds
right.
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A
And
I
give
you
that
impression
that
I
think
they're
about
nice,
no
I
actually
think
they
do
go
together
and
we're
trying
to
bring
people's
attention
to
this
and
say:
let's
get
everyone
in
the
community
who
cares
about
you
and
saved
and
or
environmental
safety
you're
working
on
the
same
in
the
same
direction
for
the
same
things
anniversary
every
natural
disaster
I
can
think
of
including
some
man-made
disasters.
You
know
one
common
denominator
that
I've
read
for
Going
on
30
some
years
are
the
people
that
had
less
means
people
know.
A
Income
and
other
incomes
have
insurance
programs
that
can
get
them
back
to
their
lives.
Like
a
group
because
every
time
there's
a
disaster,
the
impacts
their
Community.
It's
like
they
start
all
over
from
zero
honest.
So
if
we
really
want
to
be
effective,
then
protecting
people
from
things
in
the
environment
and
Care
results.
It's
going
to
be
to
address
the
social
justice
and
the
people
that
are
most
effective.
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That,
when
you
know
it's
literally
a
risk
to
mitigation
term
right
if
you're
resilient,
then
you're
not
a
fragile
Community.
Who
is
you
know
at
risk
of
having
you
know,
major
harm
done
to
people
whenever
you
know
the
privies
occur,
so
yeah
I
mean
a
part,
a
big
part
of
it
is
and
again
it
isn't
open
to
the
community
to
decide.
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But
the
reason
the
commission
decided
to
include
the
term
resilience
not
just
stick
with
safety,
because
we
really
do
feel
because
safety
is
more
of
a
short
term
and
we're
going
through
the
long
term
right,
and
we
really
feel
and
in
our
Outreach
you'll,
see
with
very
detailed.
If
you
haven't
read
the
report
with
all
the
key
stakeholders
in
the
city
who
run
these
departments
no
Department
solved
within
their
purview
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
long-term
strategic
response
to
emerging
threats
to
the
communities
of
emerging
threats
which
are
linked.
A
You
know
the
public
safety.
Indeed
there
they
are
like
I
mean
the
economy
is
the
driving
force
of
these
for
us.
So
you
know
they're
very
close
to
the
lamps
but
yeah,
basically
to
give
it
that
long-term
review
right
to
have
a
city
a
roulette
department
and
have
that
long-term
view
of
our
community
safety
and
resilience
up
in
communion
to
the
stand
in
front
of
these.
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A
Maybe
minimize
the
number
of
people
who
are
vulnerable
in
a
certain
way,
but
yeah.
That's
a
great
question
and
again
you
know
at
this
point.
This
is
why
we're
opening
up
to
the
community.
We
really
want
all
the
commissions
and
groups
and
organizations
in
Bloomington
to
I
mean
I,
don't
know
exactly
how
the
work
we
might
set
up
an
advisory
Council
or
just
invite
permissions
one
at
a
time
to
come,
speak
to
our
commission
and
share
their
views
and
collect
those
and
try
to
synthesize
them,
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
how
it
might
work.
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A
Yes,
so
really
our
past
few
Outreach
events,
we've
kind
of
coordinated,
like
one
person,
takes
three
with
Linda
on
what
materials
we
want
and
everything
and
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
But
I
want
to
get
opinions
from
folks
who
will
also
be
attending
both
dress
right
now.
My
plan
is
that
I
have
scoured
a
bunch
really
kind
of
swipe
a.
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A
We
basically
had
a
bunch
of
destroyed
Butterfly
Wings
by
the
end
of
the
event
last
year,
but
it
was
quite
popular
and
then
really
to
tie
in
our
environmental
commission
efforts.
At
the
same
time,
we
also
have
handouts
and
materials
available
that
tell
people
about
Native
gardening,
basically
at
a
wild
landscape
to
their
yards
and
what
things
they
can
do
to
increase,
insect
biodiversity
and
attract
insects.
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A
For
doing
this,
I
avoid
the
bug
test.
It
was
a
number
of
years
ago
when
I
first
got
an
immigration,
but
I
was
saying
that
one
of
the
things
is
to
stress
the
importance
that
some
bugs
are
helpful:
drugs
I'm,
sorry,
mostly
archipods.
They
go
back
560
plus
million
years.
We've
won
the
first
things
that
emerged
in
multicellular
animals
and
diversify
amazingly
and
began
into
the
Cambrian
Period,
and
they
all
share
some
common
traits,
but
they
all
become
specialized,
and
so
some
can
be
herbivores.
Some
can
be
carnivores.
Some
can
be.
H
A
Like
a
house
fly
live
off
of
and
the
breakdown
of
the
national
materials,
so
I
was
thinking
of
a
game
where
the
the
visitor
could
be
given
a
couple
of
issues
and
it's
a
common
insects
and
then
have
that
kind
of
thing.
Are
they
are
horrible,
carnivore
or
their
scavenger,
and
are
we
helpful
or
are
they
considered
a
pests?
A
Could
they
be
considered
more
than
one
of
those
two
categories
at
the
same
time
are
in
different
stages
of
their
life
and
it's
trying
to
get
motivated,
particularly
kids,
I
used
to
volunteer
at
Wonderland
and
I
enjoyed
working
in
the
kitchen
and
parents.
Now,
through
that
occasion,
when
I
had
the
opportunity
working
in
the
military.
E
Really
like
that
idea
and
I
wonder
Eddie,
because
we're
talking
about
having
the
the
pinned,
insects,
yeah
I,
wonder
if
it
could
be
possible
like
separate
them
into
like
maybe
like
a
few
questions
or
something
actually
having
music,
but
they
can
see
and
like
look,
look
at
them
and
say,
like
oh
I,
can
see
in
10
hours.
Look
what
are
these
claws?
What
are
they
you
know
like
having
them
look
at
those
specimens.
E
A
A
A
A
Concentration
and
after
he
passed
away,
I
was
helping
my
mother-in-law
with
both
her
stuff
and
I
saw
the
stuff
we
still
had.
There
were
still
containers
of
this
band
pesticide
that
is
incredibly
long
living
half
the
time.
I
had
I
can't
remember
the
name,
but
we
can
also
address
the
adults
and
have
things
that
expect
within
our
overall
interests.
E
Yeah
I
I,
like
I,
really
like
that
idea
too,
maybe
like
even
like
a
like
a
board
of
like
like.
Do
you
have
these
these
insects
in
your
yard
and
your
garden
you're
like
Yay,
we've
got
these
bugs
like
it's
like
a
these
are
the
bugs
you
want
to
celebrate
when
you
see
them,
and
then
these,
but
I
was
like.
Oh
no.
What.
F
C
A
Different
types
yeah
integrate
the
insect
they
already
do
at
linear
experience
in
future
days.
I
know
there
are
specifically
entomology
lessons
my
past
students
but
I.
Think
too,
really
what
I
was
imagining
for
both
best
was
we
give
resources
for
the
adults
to
you
know,
go
home
and
do
something
now,
but
what
could
you
do
for
the
kids
to
say
now?
A
Here's
where
you
can
bring
insects
to
your
daughter
and
I
think
we
have
our
longest
day
the
solution
to
the
the
award
at
the
end
of
torsion
right
around
the
earth
day.
Our
annual
contest
about
the
Eco
Heroes
yeah
I
was
saying
that
we
have
experience
with
approaching
different
School
schools
Etc.
So
it's
interesting
International,
which
would
be
able
to
use
some
of
our
experience
from
the
evil.
Heroes
I
remember
to
glory
to
stop
the
number
of
the
schools
near
me.
A
E
A
A
A
I
got
in
I,
I
saw
them
got
her
email
from
them
this
morning,
and
you
know
that
it's
out
of
Leonard
Springs
and
they're.
Looking
for
volunteers
and
I
guess
two
different
categories.
One
is
sort
of
taking
the
group
through
the
park
and
it'll
also
be
stations
where
they
needed
people
with
various
skills,
so
they're
working
still
looking
for
it.
It
was
just
posted
I
think
this
morning,
so
it's
called.
D
H
B
G
E
C
C
G
E
G
C
A
A
A
C
D
D
C
A
D
A
A
E
I
A
I
know
the
parks
department
has
very
if
you're
going
to
apply
a
pest
either
a
herbicide
or
pesticide.
You
have
to
be
have
a
license
that
you've
been
trained
and
know
the
safety
rules
there,
at
least
with
Parks.
They
fall
very
empirically
the
detail
of
what
works
on
in
West
setting
what
not
to
use
in
your
streams,
I've
known
to
people
who
have
been
observed,
the
fact
that
we
do
useful
plastic,
but
it's
we
generally
do
not
spray
it.
A
Typically,
we
will
cut
if
the
tree
is
checked
out
an
invasive
tree
or
bush
is
cut
down.
We
use
a
Dabber
to
apply
that
pesticide,
even
on
the
weed
Rivals,
all
the
people
who
handle
the
whatever
herbicide
that
you
might
be
using,
that
is
most
often
by
the
phosphate
it's
stamped
on.
It
has
a
color
dye
that
shows
that,
where
you
find
it
I
don't
last
for
several
days,
sometimes
during
the
drought,
it
lasted
over
a
well
over
a
month.
B
A
B
A
For
all
of
the
city,
especially
City
Hall,
we
practice
integrated
Pest
Management,
which
means
that
we
will
do
anything
we
can
to
get
rid
of
a
pest
before
we
ever
have
to
resolve
resort
to
using
chemicals.
But
as
far
as
our
rules
are
concerned,
the
only
place
that
I'm
aware
of
that
pesticides
cannot
be
used
are
in
sinkholes.
C
C
I
B
A
A
A
I
And
and
then
so
in
regards
to
parks
in
the
city
when
herbicides
and
pesticides
are
applied,
is
there
an
attempt
to
notify
adjacent
property
owners
of
the
imminent
use
of
herbicides
and
pesticides?
I
know
the
gentleman
referred
to
a
sign,
that's
posted,
but
that
would
be
post
facto
or
incident
with
the
coincident
with
the
application
I'm
curious
about
any
any
advance
warning.
A
I
A
There's
no
advance
notice,
but
they're
very
friendly.
If
you
were
to
reach
out
and
say,
like
I,
live
near
this
park
and
I'm
concerned
about
that,
they
could
tell
you
oh
watch
out
for
it.
It
will
happen
in
spring
or
we're
not
going
near
there
or
whatever
it
might
be.
I,
don't
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
haven't
served.
A
Yeah,
wonderful,
Parks
crews
are
scheduled
to
to
foliar
spray.
They
pay
very
close
attention
to
the
whether
that
is
either
current
or
about
to
come
in
and
so
I
think.
Their
scheduling
is
largely
around
a
winter,
a
franchise
that
it
has
to
be
very
flexible.
So
if
they
put
out
like
even
a
day
in
advance,
there's
a
good
there's,
a
probability
that
the
weather
will
not
be
submit
them
to
do.
The
proposed
work.
E
I
I
just
want
to
have
one
more
question.
Is
that
thank
you
for
that
it?
Of
course
you
know
if,
if
you
cancel
something,
then
people
can
still
be
aware.
I
know
you'd
have
to
repeatedly,
but
out
of
notice,
but
I'm
wondering
if
the
environmental
commission
could
raise
awareness
about
the
use
of
herbicides
and
pesticides
is
just
one
of
your
one
of
your
projects
to
let
people
know
that
there
are
other
ways
to
take
care
of
take
care
of
the
issue
so
to
speak.
Thank
you.
I
E
E
Well,
I
don
I
really
appreciate
you
chiming
in
on
so
much
of
this
and
Eric.
Thank
you
for
your
questions.
We
do
it
like
a
five
minute
limit,
or
so
so
I'm
glad
that
we
got
to
get
through
as
much
of
this,
it
sounds
like
the
biggest
takeaways
are:
I
am
I'm
talking
to
utility
storm
water
group,
the
the
resource
that
Megan
shared
about
on
the
city
website
at
breaking
certified
and
then
kind
of
as
a
bigger
talking
point
for
us.
As
far
as
Outreach
goes
how
we.
E
A
E
E
F
I
did
have
a
question.
I
was
wondering
like
with
regard
to
like
these
pesticides,
and
all
this
as
well
as
kind
of
any
regulations
that
get
decided
on
through
the
environmental
commission
are
those
things
that,
like
you
like?
How
does
that
communication
with
the
university
work
like?
Are
they
subject
to
I?
Guess
personally,
are
they
subject
to
those
regulations
and,
second
of
all,
like
since
they're
such
a
big
body
within
the
city
like
how
does
that
enforcement
go
about
functioning.
E
So
we,
as
in
the
most
General
way
we're
an
advisory
Council
to
the
city,
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
so
there's
no
official
capacity
as
far
as
there's
no
professional
capacity
as
far
as
regulations
and
things
like
that
that
we'll
be
creating
or
enforcing,
but
as
far
as
our
relationship
with
IU.
It's
also
it's
it's
more
that
we
do
like
collaborative.
E
E
D
H
A
C
E
A
E
A
E
E
E
Element
so
the
main
point
of
view
business
is
to
discuss
the
presentation
that
we
saw.
One
note
is
that
we
did
hear
from
our
city
Department
that
we
can't
actually
formally
endorse
the
recommendation
here.
What
we
can
do
is
ask
questions.
We
obviously
can
speak
as
individuals
who
are
just
individuals
not
officially
on
the
DC
capacity
that
certainly
we
can
share
whether
it's
endorsing
by
email
signing
a
letter
going
to
city
council
means
all
that,
but
as
an
ECA.
E
E
A
F
D
E
A
E
Yeah
but
yeah,
the
formal
it
sounds
like
is
a
formal
PC
yeah
we're
not
able
to
officially
endorse
anything
but
yeah
just
wanted
to
to
as
far
as
a
follow-up
on
just
email
back
to
them.
Just
to
say,
you
know
kind
of
here's
where
we
are
as
far
as
that
piece
goes,
but
as
far
as
anything
about
feasibility
study
or
anything
like
that,
I
want
to
hear
your
thoughts
on
the
the
details
that
they
provided.
As
far
as
where
the
environmental
commission
comes.
A
I
agree,
I
I
feel
like
they
were
really
stretching
and
I
always
loved
him
a
little
annoyed.
When
people
see
the
setup
then
like
it's
either,
you
know
human
or
the
environment,
which
I
don't
think
people
need
to
to
really
do
that
as
they
as
they
said,
but
I
wasn't
convinced
that
they
really
thought
through
how
environment
plays
into
these
ideas
and
resilience
that
you
that
you
asked
about.
G
A
A
F
A
A
We
see
the
environmental
impact
of
the
animals,
you
see
the
what
they
believe
in
the
park.
Probably
the
most
disturbing
was
when
they
we
had.
One
of
our
volunteers
had
a
medical
emergency
420.
One
of
our
volunteer
long-term
volunteers
for
the
mprs
is,
is
a
position,
so
we
got
to
throw
it
down.
Waterfall.
A
And
I
got
out
of
the
way
when
the
paramedics
came
and
walked
on
the
other
side
of
the
before
they
were
working
and
trying
to
get
the
patient
onto
the
gurney.
I
got
all
the
paramedics
in
a
fire
department.
Swag
then,
on
the
way
to
get
back
up
onto
the
wouldn't
act.
Playing
negotiable,
like
on
an
Irish
aquatic,
will
look
like
a
campfire
the
closer
looking
at
it.
A
A
D
A
B
A
D
A
G
B
E
What
I
can
do
is
I
can
follow
up
with
just
that
note,
and
then,
if
it
does
come
to
the
point
where
they're
hoping
that
a
feasibility
study,
because
they
have
funding,
then
we
can
bring
this
back
into
a
meeting
and
say.
Okay,
here
are
the
points
that
we're
going
to
include
that
we
recommend
that
they
look
into.
A
E
A
It
would
have
met
this
past
month,
eight,
but
because
of
some
holiday
or
or
public
service,
organ
meetings
or
something
they
chose
to
meet
next
Monday,
so
report
on
them
later
Iraq
was
to
have
met
a
week
from
yesterday
in
Winslow,
Woods
Park,
and
then
the
weather
got
really
bad,
so
they
canceled
the
meeting
and
nothing
much
is
going
on
with
friends
like
my
mom
right.
You
know
that
I
can
tell
you
about
so
I
think
that's
lessons.
A
A
Financial
mechanics
and
how
these
Land
Trust
type
set
it
on
his
word
and
I've,
always
very
well
delivered
I
felt
that
I
learned
a
lot
about
it.
I
already
had
read
a
similar
situation
of
groups
in
that
had
a
longer
history
in
Europe,
and
it
was
very
consistent
to
what
I've
read
about
the
the
concept.
The
financing
it
really
was
ability
to
make
housing
affordable
for,
let's
keep
becoming
harder
for
people
even
of
moderate
or
average
means
to
be
able
to
afford
a
house
because
of
the.
C
A
F
E
E
A
A
It
was
confirmation
that
a
lot
of
the
ideas
that
we
have
tried
to
present
in
our
letter
or
the
chain
there's
the
iris
we've
been
business
as
usual
and
more
volunteers.
The
more
work
gets
done
out
here.
The
parks
people
are
and
I
think
this
charge
through
articles
long-term
goals
for
what
we
want
to
see
in
the
environment,
in
their
Wildlife
border
and
etc,
etc,
etc.
Okay,.
D
A
Native
plant
say,
and
one
aspect
of
that
is
like
they
hope
that
they
make
equal
amount,
as
they
have
in
the
couple
previous
years
and
the
money
that
they
get
from,
that
is
now
being
redirected
into
particularly
the
their
support.
The
people
of
modest
means
who
do
things
the
reward
system.
We
will
be
able
to
help
more
people.
E
E
D
E
H
A
A
Agenda,
okay,
our
Planning
Commission
was
listed
here.
Is
there
any
updates
on
the
other
Summit
project
right?
They
did
not
make
any
changes
in
writing.
But
I
haven't
listened
to
the
planned
commission
presentation
yet,
but
they
were
from
what
I
understand
they
were
going
to
make
some
some
verbal
commitments.
A
E
A
Well,
I
have
my
usual
story:
this
is
about
1980
1981
city
of
Wilmington,
Newton,
sewage
treatment
plant,
because
the
Winston
Thomas
Thomas
planted
and
family
contaminated
with
pcbs
by
wet
thinkers.
There
are
10
proposed
sites
or
a
new
sewage
treatment
plant,
one
of
which
is
down
the
road.
Where
is
where
it
ended
up,
and
one
was
down
south
of
the
Monroe
Dam,
where
Clear
Creek
comes
into
Salt
Creek
and
the
idea
was
to
take
a
six
foot
I
can't
quite
do
it.
My
arms.
C
A
And
run
it
down,
Clear
Creek
I've
I've
seen
false
statements
that
it
is
meant
to
be
in
the
creek
and
along
the
side
of
the
creeks
and
wounded
all
the
way
down
there.
The
developers
loved
the
idea,
because
then
there'd
be
a
sewage
treatment
plant
down
there
and
they
could
make
sewers.
You
know
on
both
sides
of
the
reservoir.
F
A
Develop
everything
in
environmental
folks
didn't
like
the
idea
very
much
well.
This
was
kind
of
this
plant
is
going
to
be
supported,
for
maybe
you've
been
paid
for
entirely
by
the
EPA
and
because
it
was
cleaning
up
after
a
major
problem,
and
so
they
sent
a
guy
out
to
do
an
environmental
impact
statement.
He
makes
10
seconds
and
I
somehow
got
I.
Think.
A
As
a
member
of
this
commission
I
got
the
job
of
taking
him
down
to
that
site
down
below
the
Lake
Monroe
Dam
and
the
first
thing
I
asked
him
about
his
pancreas.
He
said:
well,
he
had
a
master's
degree
in
Ornithology
and
bird
swings
right
and
it
seemed
a
little
strange
impact
statement.
But
anyway
he
got
a
job
with
the
EPA
and
that's
the
damn
thing
he
needs
to
do
so.
I
took
him
down
there
and
I
tried
to
stay
as
close
to
Clear
Creek,
as
I
could
going
along
with
the.
E
A
Creek
in
the
roads
aren't
always
together,
but
one
way
I
think
one
place
they
come
together.
Is
that
a
nature
conservancy
site
called
secret
life?
I
think
that's
been
given
over
to
somebody
else,
but
it's
his
nature.
Conservative,
it's
a
natural
Preserve
site
and
there
are
lots
of
cedar
trees,
Jennifer
actually
up
on
the
top.
It
was
cliff
and
then
there's
the
cliff
and
then
there's
Clear
Creek
runs
along
so
I
parked
the
car
there.
A
A
Let's
see
if
I
can
remember,
rough
grass
and
I
have
seen
a
total
of
three
rough
girls
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
Since
I
arrived
in
1973,
they
are
not
very
common
care
and
so
I
sort
of
thought.
Well,
this
guy
had
this
ornithologist
hadn't
already
decided
that
this
wasn't
a
good
place
to
put,
and
so
it's
treatment
plan
he
probably
decided.
Then
anyway,
we
went
on
down
and
decided
to
go
ahead.
D
A
It
looked
like
they
owned
that
land
and
the
woman
came
out,
and
she
said
well,
okay,
but
it's
a
good
thing.
You
ask,
because
if
you
hadn't
been
a
problem
to
shouting
somebody's
been
eating
my
feet
or
cheating
my
pace
and
there's
one
other
thing
about
that
particular
assignment
that
was
interesting
to
me
is
the
only
place
that
I've
ever
seen,
American
chestnut
shoes.
They
go
up
to
about
15
feet
and
then
they
get
killed
off
by
the
the
chestnut
blight
that
destroyed
one
of
the
major
Timber
trees.
A
E
So
I'm
thinking
about
how,
last
month
we
had
an
idea
join
us,
but
because
of
the
ups
and
downs
of
the
audio
experience,
I
thought
that
for
announcements,
what
we
could
do
really
quickly
is
go
around
and
say
who
we
are.
Let
me
just
like
a
quick
background.
Why,
wrong
you
see
your
history.
Bc
is
different
thing
a
little
bit
to
give
maybe
some
context
that
she'll
inevitably
learn
I'll
have
to,
and
then,
if
you.
C
A
D
A
A
A
G
My
let's
see
announcements
ahead,
a
very
pleasant
hour
plus
conversation
with
Kona
earlier
in
the
month,
the
neighborhood
associations
about
air
quality
issues
over
Zoom.
It
was
great
I,
then
the
very
next
day
had
a
very
shaky
nervous,
six
minute
presentation
to
the
city
council,
better
quality
issues.
They
had
been
bickering
about
time
and
a
lot
of
other
stuff,
so
I,
don't
think
very
many
people
were
very
focused
on
it.
G
E
A
David
Parker's
going
the
environmental
Sciences
faculty
in
1973
in
1974
I
was
appointed
to
this
commission
and
I
haven't
been
entirely
the
whole
time
14
years
and
then
got
back
under
the
six
years
or
so
ago.
My
undergraduate
degree
was
in
applied.
Math
graduate
degree
was
in
Atlantic
College,
so
one
of
the
events
being
they
had
me
teaching
math
and
statistics
instead
of
it.
A
A
Thank
you
for
the
warm
welcome.
My
name
is
Ann
Arbor
Michigan
and
I'm
the
first
year
MPA
candidate
at
the
O'neill
school.
So
thanks
to
hear
about
all
the
speed
connections,
I
have
here.
So
that's
really
fun
and
I'm
planning
to
study
policy,
analysis
and
energy.
I
did
my
undergraduate
in
public
management
and
urban
planning.
A
B
D
A
Yeah
Megan
Murphy
I
teach
at
IU
in
biology
my
background.
My
PhD
is
evolution
and
animal
behavior
I
study,
insects,
communication.
So
here
we
talk
about
Pages
and
now
I
teach
mostly
research
methods,
scientific
writing
and
then
entomology
in
the
summer.
Since
my
most
fun
one
that
I
just
finished
up.