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A
Ally
tonight
for
Thursday
June
26
2023
at
5
p.m.
D
we
do
the
Roll
Call.
C
D
E
G
Yes,
I
don't
think
she
was
here
when
so
hi
hi,
hi,
Elizabeth,
Mitchell
I,
see
you're
online
I
was
actually
going
to
send
you
a
message
right
now
during
the
last
meeting
that
the
historic
preservation
commission
met.
They
voted
that
that
what
is
the
best
wording
for
this
that,
in
order
to
be
able
to
participate
as
a
commissioner,
you
have
to
be
in
person.
So,
even
though
we
do
have
a
quorum
here
at
City,
Hall
Commissioners,
who
are
not
in
person,
can't
participate
as
Commissioners
anymore
yeah.
H
G
H
About
is
your
demoting,
a
voting
commissioner
online
to
under
a
non-voting
commissioner,
online.
J
J
The
intent
was
to
not
allow
Commissioners
who
are
online
to
like
participate
like
ask
questions
and
make
comments.
The
intent
was
more
about
attendance
and
Quorum,
so
I
did
not
intend
for
that
to
be
the
case
when
I
made
the
motion.
H
L
G
Want
to
make
sure
that
the
is
staff
and
supporting
what
the
commission,
of
course
is
moving
forward.
A
All
right,
thank
you.
We'll
move
that
later
on
into
the
gender
on
our
next
meeting.
G
A
So,
let's
move
on
to
approval
of
minutes
for
May
25th
2023
we'll
need
a
motion
all
right
Dee.
Can
you
do
the
roll
call?
Please.
A
H
C
E
A
Thank
you,
Dee.
Let's
move
on
to
the
coas
that
are
Stafford
gear,
so
you
want
to
quickly
go
over
those
for
us
Gloria.
G
Yeah
so
before
I
go
over
that
very
quickly,
I
wanted
to
do
a
couple
of
Staff
introductions.
We
have
two
new
staff
members.
We
have
our
new
assistant
director,
Anna
Hanson
right
and
we
also
have
Katie
Gandhi
from
planning
who
will
be
joining
us
as
staff
for
planning
assistant
director
of.
J
G
What
I
figured
about
this
one?
Yes,
I
apologize,
that's
it
okay
and
yeah!
So
now
very
quickly,
because
we
have
a
pretty
packed
agenda
as
staff
I
worked
with
the
owners
of
the
owners
of
caveat
Empire
and
provided
a
staff
approval
for
a
change
of
paint
on
the
current
on
the
current
sign,
COA
23-36
at
112th,
North
Walnut
Street.
So
they
cannot
remove
any
of
the
letters.
They
can't
pull
anything
apart.
G
They
simply
have
to
clean
what
is
there
and
change
to
the
following
colors,
which
are
cleaner
brighter,
but
we'll
give
the
we'll
give
the
site
a
pop.
Basically,
it's
been
a
while
since
it
it
has
had
that
and
unfortunately,
a
sign
of
this
size
cannot
be.
This
is
grandfathered
in.
It
cannot
be
it's
not
allowed
at
this
moment.
G
They
would
if
they
were
to
get
a
new
sign,
it
would
have
to
be
much
smaller,
so
it's
only
for
color
change,
so
none
of
the
finials
or
anything
you
see
on
the
bottom
or
changes
in
lettering.
It's
just
taking
what
you
see
there
and
making
it
blue
and
gold,
and
then
the
other
staff
review
is
for
200
East
Kirkwood
Avenue
a
couple
of
Commissioners
I
believe
it
was
Sam.
G
The
solar
and
Marlene
Newman
met
with
the
owners
and
an
architect
for
the
former
People's
Bank
in
order
to
change
proposed
change
to
the
color
of
the
back
materials
of
the
facade
on
the
back
of
the
addition
from
the
from
Limestone
to
a
black
black
brick
and
for
the
siding
on
the
side,
that's
going
to
be
towards
the
next
door,
building
to
fiber
cement
instead
of
metal,
and
so
there
were
conversations
at
this
and
it
was
approved
at
a
staff
level.
G
So
the
black
brick
is
supposed
to
combine
more
with
the
front
current
sorry
black
Gran,
on
the
wall
in
front.
So
this
was
also
approved,
and
now
we
are
on
to
staff
reviews.
This
week
we
have
a
lot
of
new
like
bigger
projects,
new
buildings
than
additions,
218
South,
Grand
Street.
This
was
212
South,
Grand
Street
part
of
the
same
lot
as
the
next
door,
building
which
we
saw
a
couple
of
months
ago.
G
I
G
No,
so
on
this
brand
new
site,
the
the
petitioners
are
proposing
a
completely
new
building
and
the
staff
comments
finds
that
The
Proposal
complies
with
the
parameters
within
the
historic
district
guidelines
as
the
setbacks,
fenestrations
orientation,
roofline,
massing,
height
and
materials
all
have
been
carefully
considered
in
order
to
both
comply
with
the
district
and
be
in
conversation
with
the
neighboring
building
to
the
South.
So
the
neighboring
building
is
212
South
Grant
Street.
G
G
And
so
this
is
the
plan.
Recycling.
G
Just
trying
to
make
sure
you
can
see
this
as
clearly
as
possible,
so
first
and
second
floor.
We
as
the
HPC
don't
need
to
look,
don't
need
to
evaluate
the
interior,
but
I
wanted
to
give
you
a
better
sense
of
the
full
scope
of
the
project.
G
G
soft
Grant
Street
and
here
are
the
just
a
list
of
the
materials
which
could
also
be
found
on
the
packet.
The
materials
and
the
petitioners
here
and
can
clarify,
are
very
similar,
often
matching
with
the
materials
that
were
approved
on
the
200
to
12
South,
Grant
Street,
so
yeah
with
this
said,
staff
recommends
approval
of
COA
23-35
and
I
pass
it
to
you.
M
Nope,
you
have
questions.
Basically,
yes,
that's
kind
of
a
system
but
detailing
size
of
footprint,
and
everything
is
very
similar
to
that.
The
one
the
north
is
currently
being
remodeled
fully
remodeling.
Let's
go
to
a
significant
amount
of
structural
replacement,
Improvement.
M
A
So
Allison
any
questions.
J
So
actually,
now
too,
since
you
commented,
could
you
show
us
quickly,
the
house
that
you
said
it
was
going
to
look
really
similar
to
the
sort
of
it's?
Not
this
one?
That.
M
G
G
J
J
J
Great,
thank
you.
My
only
question
is
whether
or
not
it
looks
like
it's
a
engineered
wood
for
the
decking.
Is
that
correct.
I
M
J
Okay,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
staff
if
that's
typical,
to
do
the
engineered
decking
for
a
historic
district
or
what
is
more
typical
or
preferred.
H
M
E
H
A
J
H
Right,
thank
you.
Do
you?
Oh
sorry,
I
was
just
trying
to
look
and
see.
Could
you
see
the
the
structure
to
the
the
existing
one
that
we've
been
looking
as
to
the
South
is,
and
then
the
building
to
the
north
is
about
what
a
five-story
looking
thing
of
the
building
to
the
South,
so
so
I'm
asking
do
we
have
a
better
picture
of
the
building
on
the
other
side.
K
H
H
A
H
M
H
M
H
M
We're
putting
in
is
similar
to
the
one
to
the
north,
but
obviously
stepping
uphill.
So
it's
kind
of
transitioning
because
of
where
agent
sits
up
higher
because
of
that.
H
M
That
sucker
is
life
is
lower
than
that
yeah
approaching.
N
Is
the
Gloria
where's,
the
actual
boundary
relative
to
this
new
construction.
K
G
A
District
boundary
yeah,
so
the
district
boundary
it's
very
tight
around
it.
Let
me
pull
up
this
Nifty
map.
K
I
I
A
L
A
Problem
any
more
questions,
yeah
I,
agree,
I
haven't
got
any
questions
at
this
time.
Does
the
public
hearing
questions
all
right
and
do
we
have
any
is
do
anybody's
still
online.
A
Okay,
great,
so,
let's
move
to
comments.
Don't
get
any
good
any
comments.
N
A
A
H
No
issues
with
the
the
proposal
as
it
is
but
I
would
almost
say
I-
might
even
want
this
to
be
taller
as
a
transition
building.
H
F
Daniel
no
I
think
I'm
in
that
same
I
like
how
it
kind
of
is
similar
to
the
one
next
door.
I
think
that'll,
look
really
nice.
A
No
comments
for
an
hour,
Sam
Matthew.
Welcome
to
the
comments
you
know:
I
can't
I.
My
only
comment
is
I
can't
agree
with
Sam
a
little
bit.
If
that
balloon
is
just
a
little
taller
and
you
know
it
might
look
a
little
bit
better.
As
you
see
the
properties
in
the
street,
but
that's
the
only
comments
I
have
and
it's
a
great
project.
This
can.
O
A
J
A
You
Allison,
okay,
we
need
a
emotion.
A
Right,
thank
you.
Do
you
do
the
roll
call
please.
B
E
C
A
I
J
C
A
G
Okay,
so
Daniel
Joseph
Weddle
is
requesting
an
a
new
addition
to
917
new
North
Fairview
Street
in
Maple
Heights.
We
saw
this.
We
saw
a
case
with
them
a
couple
a
few
weeks
ago
and
the
petitioner
is
requesting
to
attach
another
structure
to
the
house.
But
this
time
it's
going
to
be
an
addition
to
the
house.
It
would
barely
be
visible
to
the
street
on
the
Alley.
The
materials
on
the
proportionals
are
not
typical
of
the
neighborhood.
G
These
structures,
the
the
Adu
that
that
was
approved
and
the
other
little
structure,
tiny
house,
that
the
petitioner
wants
to
add
right
now
are
considered
interesting,
quirky,
architecturally
highlighted,
but
they're
also
getting
a
lot
of
national
attention.
The
petitioner
did
send
me
some
clips
from
HDTV
and
from
YouTube
and
other
places
where
they're
being
featured.
In
other
words.
G
At
this
moment
they
are
interesting
structures,
but
I
also
kind
of
want
to
be
forward
thinking
about
how
they
will,
in
the
long
term,
add
to
the
history
of
the
site,
so
thinking
40
years
down
the
line.
What
will
this
add
or
what
will
it
say
about
the
property?
That's
just
coming
in
from
it
as
a
preservationist
and
the
president
who's
also
seeing
how
things
from
40
years
ago
are
now
being
considered
historic
again.
This
is
just
a
comment:
take
it
or
leave
it.
That
being
said,
staff
does
recommend
approval
of
co823-40.
G
Maple
Heights
construction
subcommittee.
Comments,
I
believe
are
pending.
There's
been
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
about
meeting
with
them.
This
is
the
site,
and
this
is
where
it'll
be
located.
So
principally
this
this
proposed
Edition,
unlike
the
other
one,
would
be
pretty
nestled
behind
the
house
and
it
would
be
visible
from
the
alley,
but
not
as
much
as
the
Adu.
G
So
here's
another
image
of
it,
and
this
is
how
it
would
just
because
of
the
layout
of
the
site.
It
wouldn't
be
Vis
like
super
visually,
overtaking
the
house
either
and
I.
Think
the
perspective
does
a
pretty
a
good
job
about
of
showing
like
hey.
This
is
how
it
would
be
kind
of
visible
when
you're
driving
the
walking
down
the
street.
G
It
doesn't
really
detract
a
lot
from
the
house,
even
though,
on
the
other
hand,
the
sizes
of
the
windows
we've
already
had
this
conversation,
the
proportions
of
the
building
they're,
not
they
don't
reflect
literally
any
of
the
physical
aspects
of
the
district
or
the
area
in
that
regard.
So
there
are
pros,
and
there
are
cons-
and
this
is
why
there
is
a
body
with
many
different
perspectives
and
experts
here
that
can
determine
whether
or
not
this
is
an
appropriate
addition
to
the
house.
I
just
wanted
to
give
my
two
cents.
G
So
yeah,
so
these
are
some
of
the
images
of
the
anterior
and
the
exterior
of
this
of
the
tiny
house
that
would
be
added
to
the
structure
and
yeah.
So
again,
there's
a
lot
of
food
for
a
thought,
and
this
is
one
of
those
more
complicated
cases.
We've
already
been
looking
at
it
and
the
different
types
of
issues
that
the
site
provides
and
I
will
leave
at
12
of
you.
No
thank
you.
Thank.
J
John
may
ask
a
preliminary
question.
Sure
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand,
because
all
these
questions
are
gonna
help
me
if
this
is
answered,
so
we
approved
the
COA
previously
correct,
and
that
was
for
an
Adu
that
was
detached.
This
is
correct.
I
L
G
G
J
J
G
P
H
K
G
Wood
house-
and
this
would
be
an
alternative
material
that
would
be
built
around
it.
Oh
my
God,
the.
K
J
I
P
J
J
N
K
J
Okay,
is
there
not,
is
this
planning?
Is
there
a
problem?
I
mean
you
can't
have
like
three
different.
J
J
Use
approved
for
that
or
if
the
kitchen
is
removed.
N
J
N
G
A
Letting
me
jump
Sam,
have
you
got.
H
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
so
do
we
have
a
roof
plan
about
how
that
thing
connects,
doesn't
connect
to
the
existing
building,
I
mean
you've
got.
We've
got
the
the
tiny
house,
which
is
inherently
it's
hermetic
structure.
H
P
H
That
that's
gonna,
the
polycarb
is
going
to
meet
code
for
roof
insulation.
H
P
Corner
there
will
be
just
what
platform
frame
and
what
you
see
there
is
a
white,
the
likely
to
be
wood,
paneling
matching
the
tiny
house
supports.
P
P
I
G
There
there
has
been
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
and
emails,
but
I
haven't
like
original.
The
plan
was
for
the
last
meeting
for
the
petitioner
to
present
before,
if
you
wanted
to
get
feedback
before
submitting,
but
because
we
didn't
have
a
meeting
during
the
last
session
that
didn't
happen
and
I
I
believe.
P
Q
Q
P
G
Was
an
email
that
I
got
yeah,
but
I
do
but
I
do
send
the
packet
to
everything.
Yeah,
okay,.
H
Yes,
I
got
the
answer
to
my
question,
which
was
there
is
nothing
really
there's
no
plan.
There's
no
elevations.
There's.
H
Was
the
answer
that
I
got
okay.
K
H
That's
that's.
That
was
one
of
my
questions,
but
yes,
the
the
materials
and
the
actual
how
it
works
is
somewhat
ambiguous
at
this
moment.
J
Many
questions,
but
I
only
have
two
two
I
have
one
to
my
fellow
commissioner.
Would
you
argue,
then,
that
this
is
not
a
complete
application
and
it
should
I.
H
Generally,
when
a
petition
comes
before
the
HBC,
we
like
to
know
what
the
materials
are
going
to
be.
We
like
to
know
what
the
fenestration
is
going
to
be.
You
can
have
presentations
to
the
neighborhood
and
work
out
what
you're
going
to
present
to
us,
but
once
it's
in
front
of
us
I,
I
personally
and
I,
think
many
of
my
fellow
Commissioners
might
say
we
want
a
decision
from
you
about
what
your
intentions
are
in
every
portion
of
the
project,
no
I
mean
I
thought.
I
G
K
G
H
E
H
K
P
H
A
A
A
J
I
ask
my
second
question,
though:
you
said
that
you
had
a
letter
of
approval
from
the
letters
a
letter
of
support
from
the
District
president.
A
J
J
I
would
assume
that
you
vote
on
things
as
an
HOA
and
yeah,
so
you
didn't,
there
was
no
vote
taken
then.
J
Well,
yeah,
but
it's
a
little
disingenuous
anyway.
I
A
F
No
I,
don't
think
so.
I
think
the
first
three
Commissioners
kind
of
covered
anything
I
could
have
thought.
A
Q
Yeah
sorry.
A
Q
Q
F
I
Q
Certainly
the
spirit
of
the
the
guidelines
that
the
community
put
together
and
I
see
where
you
have
a
couple
of
letters
of
support.
Q
Q
A
Q
The
last
time
the
members
of
the
committee
were
not
in
favor
of
it.
It
was
approved
anyway,
I'd
really
like
to
hear
what
their
opinion
is
on
this,
but
I
I
can't
support
this.
My
reasons
are,
as
expressed
team
back
there
for
the
APU.
A
P
Yes,
the
original
house
has
four
editions,
so
it's
a
bridge
on
the
front
plywood
on
the
North
and
like
like
it's
like
aluminum
on
the
back
into
cologne.
N
Or
on
the
or
the
roof
plan
might
show
it
better.
Yeah.
I
P
N
P
N
And
your
New
Edition
is
going
to
go
in
that
slot
just
below
the
porch
Edition.
P
N
Okay,
so
what's
being
added,
is
the
deck
already
there
so
that
porch,
what's
showing
in
white
it.
N
Yep
and
that
that
little
connector
I
think
that
was
what
Sam
raised
a
question
about
for
our
purposes.
We
would
have
to
know
what
that's
made
out
of
yeah.
N
And
we
would
need
elevations
and
profiles
of
it,
so
we
could
see
it
in
relation
to
how
it
attaches
to
the
house
as
well
as
how
it
attaches
to
the
addition
or
some
some
explanation
of
that
in
some
in
some
form,
those
little
pieces
in
preservation
are
called
hyphens,
which
frequently
are
used
to
distinguish
between
the
addition
and
the
original
structure.
N
So
when
you
have,
and
particularly
the
case
where
there's
a
very
contemporary
addition
to
a
historic
form,
so,
for
instance,
if
you
have
a
an
old
library
building
and
it's
all
Limestone-
and
you
want
to
put
an
addition
on
it
out
of
glass
glass,
you
hyphen
it
with
some
other
material.
That
is
a
third
material
between
the
two
buildings
that.
P
Was
actually
a
logically
used
on
this
property
when
the
adu's
original
proposed
it
had
glass
around
okay
in
the
earth,
and
it
was
to
create
that
sense
and
that
same
glassware
in
English
on
the
other,
tiny
home.
So
there's
an
intention
to
like
keep
that
language
through
the
property
we
lowered
the
roof
enough
on
the
edu
event
for
the
last
no
longer
there
is
that
design
touch
is
not
him
in
the
project.
N
It's
common
for
iPhones
to
be
glass
and
then
the
other.
So
that's
something
I
would
I
want
to
see,
explained
and
also
I.
Don't
have
any
aesthetic
objection
to
the
contemporary
form
and
articulation
I,
guess
you'd
say
of
the
addition
in
particular,
but
I
don't
find
it
at
all
compatible
with
what
we've
already
got.
N
I
could
also
say
that
about
the
brick
Edition
yeah,
but
that
doesn't
justify
Doing
It
Wrong
twice
in
that
in
my
mind,
so
I
I
just
don't
find
the
addition
compatible
and
it
really
in
any
sense
with
what
we've
already
got
there,
except
potentially
the
Adu
which
I
wasn't
in
discussion
with
that,
but
it's
not
being
added
to
the
Adu.
So
it's
not
real.
N
J
I
do
want
to
first
of
all
clear
up
the
letter
from
Ms
b
was.
She
was
very
actually
distinct
about
her
role
and
she
said
I
do
not
write
for
my
position
of
leadership
and
My
Views
are
only
my
own,
so
I
was
going
to
correct
the
record.
There
I'm
glad
to
see
that
she
did
that.
J
However,
I
don't
know
how
seriously
we
want
to
take
her
letter
because
she
doesn't
actually
live
in
the
historic
district,
but
in
the
neighborhood,
but
anyway,
I
can't
imagine
a
point
at
which
I
would
approve
this.
Just
because
the
compatibility
issues
I
mean
it
doesn't
matter
what
type
of
design
you
come
back
with.
It
doesn't
matter
how
you
connect
it
I.
J
Just
don't
think
that
I
think
Duncan
and
Reynard
both
made
some
really
good
points
and
I'll
combine
them
to
say
that
I
just
don't
believe
that
yet
another
structure
of
a
different
type
is
compatible
with
historic
preservation.
District.
What.
H
Right,
let's
see
the
only
other
point
I
want
to
raise
is
that
the
guidelines
don't
have
anything
about
additions.
Quite
yet
you
look
there.
The
committee
is
working
on
them,
but
we're
going
to
be
running
a
little
blind.
So.
P
P
P
G
H
A
F
F
B
I
I
K
I
G
If
you
want
to
avert
your
eyes,
why
yeah,
we
didn't
see
your
shopping
channel
I,
just
don't
want
to
like
dizzy,
make
anybody
nauseous.
K
Okay,
so
next
up
is.
G
Coa
23-39
at
748,
South,
Morton
Street,
where
the
petitioner
Lois
Joyner
architect,
is
requesting
partial
demolition,
new
addition,
alteration
to
the
roof
and
tree
removal
for
748
South,
Morton
Street.
G
The
neighborhood
commented
that
it
had
its
me
its
meeting
and
was
able
to
view
the
model
and
plans
and
I
believe
that
the
petition
has
brought
a
model
and
ask
questions
and
discuss
slope,
roof,
drainage,
trees
and
windows.
The
view
of
the
house
from
the
street
will
remain
unchanged.
The
neighborhood
association
unanimously
voted
to
approve
these
updates
to
the
house
on
748
South
Morton
Street.
Please,
let
me
know
family
okay,
so
as
staff
staff
recommends
approval,
Coe
23-39
the
changes
would
not
be
visible
from
Morton
Street.
G
G
The
proposed
addition
is
scaled
to
the
size
of
the
original
House.
It
would
be
located
towards
the
back
on
the
back
of
the
structure
with
a
height
much
lower
than
the
peak
of
the
Gable.
The
proposed
materials
for
the
addition
do
not
match
The
house's
current
materials.
G
However,
they
do
respond
to
materials
typically
used
in
the
neighborhood,
and
the
neighborhood
association
unanimously
supports
the
project
now
you're
going
to
have
to
bear
with
me
because
or
take
a
look
at
the
physical
packets,
because
I'm
going
to
run
into
a
small
technical
difficulty
right
now.
Oh
okay,
never
mind
we're
good
we're
good.
Sorry,
Adobe
can
be
very
proprietary
and
not
allow
you
to
rotate
sometimes.
G
So.
This
is
a
side
view
sorry
site
View
apologize,
psych
plan.
G
G
Able
to
visit
the
site,
I
think
in
2021
or
2022..
The
back
of
the
building
has
a
pretty
extensive
porch
that
slopes
very
low
that
was
built
in
the
1940s.
So
it
does
have
its
historic
value
in
and
of
itself.
G
G
Yeah,
it's
actually
very
low
and
it
has
caused
problems
for
the
owner.
So
here's
a
proposed
Edition
I'm
gonna,
try
to
zoom
in
a
little
more
so
bear
with
me.
Thank
you
for
your
patience.
Well,.
K
G
G
The
foreign.
R
K
I
G
Yeah,
so
with
that
I
I
I'm,
just
trying
to
scroll
through
everything,
I
have
I'll
let
pass
it
on
to
John
Saunders
and
the
Commissioners.
Thank.
I
A
A
You
thank
you,
Gloria
all
right,
so,
let's
start
out
thinking
for
questions
any
additional
comments
from
our
I'm.
Sorry,
thank
you.
Do
you
have
any
additional
comments
about
the
project?
No.
R
You
know
we're
really
trying
to
work
with
the
original
eye
house
and
then
the
you
know,
I,
don't
know
if
you
noticed
in
the
comments.
I
really
thought
about
the
relationship
between
this
and
some
other
historical
presidents,
not
necessarily
duplicating
or
even
trying
to
copy.
But
you
know
the
the
the
these
eye.
Houses
typically
have
some
kind
of
addition
out
the
back.
So
this
is
a
reference
to
that.
This
profile
is,
you
know,
sometimes
seen
on
houses
more
often
seen
like
on
bars
and
so
forth.
R
This
little
piece
here
is
a
lot
like
porches
are
tucked
into
those
corners
on
houses
like
that.
This
is
just
a
little
saddle
off
the
side.
Little
saltbox
roof
garage
that
mimics
the
profile
of
this
roof,
so
we're
kind
of
trying
to
you
know
just
kind
of
make
a
uniform
and
unified
composition
there.
R
The
plan
of
the
house
is
all
kind
of
designed
around.
You
know
the
connection
between
the
interior
and
the
exterior
and
pulling
that
together.
This
chunk
here
at
the
back
is
actually
a
porch,
so
the
condition
space
is
up
all
up
here
and
but
and
and
we're
also
doing
a
fair
amount
of
work
on
the
house
itself,
the
the
that
metal
roof
it
has
on.
R
It
is
really
booged
up
in
the
technical
terms
and
and
really
needs
to
be
redone,
and
then
that
so
that'll
cause
us
to
allow
us
to
then
redo
the
the
raking
Eaves
and
the
cornice
and
so
forth,
and
get
those
back
closer
to
what
they
probably
would
would
have
been.
R
L
R
Just
wood
shingles,
which
you'll
see
around
the
neighborhood
and
also
it's
also
a
really
nice
material,
because
the
scale
of
those
shingles
is
kind
of
a
reminisce
of
the
scale
of
the
of
the
bricks.
So
you
get
this
similar
kind
of
texture
so.
H
Sam
I'm
gonna
have
to
recuse
myself
on
this
one,
not
the
petitioner.
This
marriage.
A
What
is
that
all
about
needed
for
that
sort?.
E
Yard
that
we
have
and
that.
R
Helps
the
plan
really
work
because
we
spaces
are
kind
of
ones
that
need
to
be
kind
of
in
in
relation
to
this
space?
This
is
a
bathroom,
and
this
chunk
is
the
laundry
room
and
pantry,
and
these
three
Dormers
are.
R
Q
F
All
my
questions,
Daniel,
no,
no
questions.
N
And
I'm
not
going
to
make
any
comments
specifically
until
it's
comment
time.
But
this
house
I
have
a
lot
of
history
with
this
house
myself,
because
I
know
who
did
the
first
primary
restoration.
It
wasn't
one
time
a
Holland,
parlor
house
and
was
converted
to
an
eye
house.
So
the
facade
has
been
changed
and
the
floor.
The
floor
plan
reflects
that
on
the
inside
the
hall
and
parlor
configuration,
but,
and
then
it's
and
then
subsequent
owners
of
ravaged
it
in
various
ways
and
it's
had
a
hard
life
and.
N
Very
earliest
houses
and
its
location
in
particular
there
along
the
trail.
It
makes
it
somewhat
more
notable
than
it
has
been
in
the
past
when
nobody
knew
it
was
there
and
I
and
I'm
a
I'm,
a
proponent
of
contemporary
additions
to
historic
houses,
I
just.
N
To
but
what
I'm
it's
more
intrigued,
why
is,
is
the
sort
of
angularity
that
you
used
as
a
motif
across
the
entire
Edition
when
the
house
itself
just
doesn't
have
any
like,
like
the
eye
house?
Is
a?
Is
a
shoe
box
or
a
double
shoe
box?
If
you
will-
and
it
has
very
little
angularity-
it
is
so,
but
the
addition
is
is
busy
with
angularity
I,
suppose
and
so.
I
N
R
It's
not
intended
to
be
I
mean
those
those
decisions
are
not
lightly
made,
I,
think
and
and
if,
if
you
look
at
them,
they're
they're,
all
pretty.
R
You
know
like
like
this
I
like
this
elevation
went
through
a
lot
of
variations,
sure
and,
and
it
wasn't
until
this
came
up
parallel
with
this-
that
it
really
settled
down
and-
and
it
looked
like
hell
before
and
you
know,
I
tried,
you
know
that,
like
a
little
shed
off
this
way-
and
you
know
in
a
little
hip
and
it
just
looked
like
a
a
minute
like
it,
just
wasn't
right,
and
so
it's.
N
Good
answer:
that's
okay,
I!
Just
that
was
partly
my
comment,
yeah
and
and
pressage
my
comment
with
it.
It
feels
hard
to
maintain
because
there's
so
many
corners
and
juts
and
turns
and
corn,
and
that's
a
lot
of
flashing
and
a
lot
of
guttering
and
a
lot
of
stuff
that
is,
is
not
shown
in
that
model,
because
the
models
are
always
so
planar.
B
N
It's
see
that
that's
going
to
add
to
as
a
as
a
contractor
and
a
carpenter,
we
used
to
say
every
time
you
had
a
corner
at
fifteen
hundred
dollars,
that
was
that
was
way
short
of
what
it
really
cost.
So
so
you
know,
I
see
a
lot
of
Corners,
so
this
is
kind
of
from
seeing
like
places
where
things
would
make
snow
would
sit
and
and
where
that
would
that
that's
part
of
my
thinking
about
how
well
it's
going
to
function.
But
so,
if
we
were
at
a
crit
that
would
be
my
crit.
N
A
A
A
Well,
I'm
glad
to
see
this
house
getting
some
serious
love
and
I
I
think
that
that's
a
really
neat
design
and
the
only
thing
that
kind
of
and
I'm
since
I'm
not
going
to
have
to
live
with
the
corners
I'm,
not
going
to
worry
about
them.
The
only
thing
that
pertured
me
a
little
bit
was
that
sort
of
Side
Edition
and
how
it's
going
to
be
seen
from
the
front
facade.
A
But
you
know
I
think
it's
not
going
to
demolish
the
historic
Integrity
of
the
place
in
a
lot
of
those
older
houses
might
have
something
sort
of
attached
to
the
side
or
that
sort
of
thing
and
I
think
you've
done
it
sensitively
and
in
a
way
that
you
can
tell
it's
not
trying
to
look
like
it's
original
to
the
house,
so
I'm
I'm,
fine
with
it
I
think
it's
kind
of
neat.
So
yeah,
that's
what
I
call
it!
Thank
you.
Matthew
Renard.
Q
But
I
I
mean
I've
seen
the
different
iterations
from
the
first
time
it
came,
and
then
it
changed
and
it
I
think
it
changed
at
least
once
or
twice
before
this.
Once.
A
Remember
Daniel:
have
you.
F
The
only
one
I
was
going
to
say,
Matthew's
already
covered
was
just
that
side
thing,
but
I
I
keep
looking
at
that,
but
I
think
like
Matthew
already
covered
I,
think
it'll.
Look
fine,
so
I'm
comfortable
with
it.
Thank.
A
You
I
know
it's
killing
me
Allison.
J
Yeah
I
actually.
J
For
me,
if
you
didn't
see
that-
and
you
were
I
mean
because
this
is
visible
from
the
B
line-
I
mean
you're.
Gonna
you're
gonna
see
this
when
you're
walking
down
it.
Just
would
look
very
very
odd
if
the
front
was
like
completely
historic
and
you
didn't
see
any
of
this
sort
of
more
modern
look
straight
on
from
the
front,
so
I
think
from
a
design
perspective.
J
My
personal
design
perspective,
if
I'm,
not
a
professional
but
I,
think
that
that
is
is
necessary
to
bring
that
forward
and
I
do
think
that
it
I'm
really
glad
that
the
front
is
going
to
be
mostly
maintained,
as
it
is
obviously
with
a
facelift
which
I
have
nothing
against
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
support
it
today.
A
All
right
thanks,
Allison
Duncan,
so
the
porch.
I
N
S
N
I
N
With
with,
with
all
the
other
changes
being
made,
I
I
would
probably
be
okay
with
it.
You
know
my.
N
House
about
this
age
and
I've
I've
owned
it
for
almost
40
years
and
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
it
and
I
and
I've.
You
know
wrestled
with
these
issues
for
a
long
time,
but
and
and
I
I
when
I
see
the
model
without
it
I
find
that
I
find
the
house
much
more
attractive,
even
though,
as
I
mentioned,
it's
not
originally
an
eye
house
for
the
front
of
it.
Never
looked
like
this
really
it's
been
altered.
Do.
N
N
N
Off
returns
it
to
the
hall
and
parlor
configuration
where
the
doors
off
center
for
everybody
else,
a
hall
and
parallel
has
one
large
room
with
one
smaller
room
adjacent
to
it,
not
a
central
Hall.
This
house
was
changed
to
put
a
door
to
to
put
a
central
Hall
in
on
the
middle
of
two
rooms
that
aren't
the
same
size.
So
it
was,
a
hall
was
one
room
that
a
parlor
was
the
other
room
and
there
wasn't
any
corridor.
I
N
C
Jean
was
very
meticulous
about
talking
to
former
owner
suzke
who's,
a
historic
preservationist.
She
owned
the
house
for
over
30
years
and
Sue
just
adores.
This
addition,
of
course,
her
next
door,
neighbor
will
be
her
son-in-law
and
he
will
have
a
very
contemporary
Edition
that
you
guys
have
already
proved
so.
The
Contemporary
angular
that
this
is
being
added
to
this
is
going
to
blend
in
nicely
with
that
next
door.
So
the
view
from
the
beeline
it
shouldn't
really
affect
it.
It
should
just
show
and
reflect
as
an
addition
onto
it.
C
The
interior
I
mean
this
is
1938
house.
If
you
have
a
house
that
old
you
don't
have
indoor
plumbing,
you
do
not
have
light
fixtures.
You
do
not
have
heat
unless
it's
coal
burning,
stove
or
something
like
that,
you
have
sisters,
so
there
have
to
be
alterations,
made
the
historic
structures
so
that
they
can
continue
to
be
used
and
by
fixating
the
bathroom
downstairs.
C
This
is
going
to
allow
for
the
Aging
in
place
and
Gene
wants
to
live
in
this
house
until
she
passes,
so
she
should
be
comfortable
in
this
house.
So
that
addition,
even
though
it's
going
to
show
seven
feet
from
the
beeline,
should
not
affect
that,
but
it
will
make
it
a
lot
more
livable
for
Gene
and
in
the
future
there
are
other
additions
that
you
know
do
not
reflect
what
the
owner
wants
and
and
how
it
will
fit.
C
H
E
I
C
So
you
know
I'm,
not
I.
Don't
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
major
issue
and
other
things
that
have
happened
in
the
past
with
new
structures
have
been
allowed
if
it's
been
visible
on
a
major
thoroughfare
as
far
as
the
roof
slopes
and
the
materials
used
I
know,
Duncan
was
concerned
about
the
windows
on
the
back.
C
C
C
So
you
know
that's
been
done,
I
don't
see
a
big
problem
with
this.
Do
you
have
anything
else.
A
Of
course,
I
I
don't
have
any
comments
at
this
point,
so
anybody
online
have
any
comments.
Raise
your
hand
please.
A
I
E
A
I
J
A
Move
on
to
COA
23-41
345,
South,
Rogers,
Street,
Mr
holovich
is
with
us
yeah.
G
G
The
property
at
346,
South,
Rogers
Street,
the
petitioner,
is
requesting
to
to
change
the
color
scheme,
and
so
this
isn't
core
Prospect
Hill,
rather
than
greater
Prospect
Hill.
This
and
core
Prospect
Hill
doesn't
really
delegate
a
lot
of
doesn't
really
delegate
much
to
staff.
G
So
this
is
one
of
those
cases
where
the
petitioner
is
bringing
lovely
different,
vibrant
color
scheme
staff,
looked
it
up
and
and
the
guidelines
do
say
that
to
use
period,
paint,
colors
and
color
schemes
appropriate
to
the
building's
architectural
style,
and
so
I
went
ahead
and
looked
at
Elizabethan
and
tutor
Revival
buildings.
G
What
tends
to
be
the
rule
of
thumb
is
that
the
whatever
part
is
represents
the
this,
the
traditional
wood
structure
and
whatever
represents
the
you
know,
waddle
and
dab.
In
this
case
it's
a
different
material,
but
so
the
flat
surfaces.
So
whatever
is
the
wood
structure
should
be
darker,
but,
and
so
what
the
petitioner
is
requesting
is
for
a
very
varied
color
scheme
that
is
reminiscent
of
a
lot
of
Victorian
style
buildings.
However,
the
wood
would
be
lighter
than
the
background.
G
I
have
seen
precedence
when
I
was
doing
like
Pinterest
searches
or
what?
What
are
people
doing
with
this
typology
of
building
the
main?
The
main
concern
is
that
there
is
a
good
contrast.
However,
the
rule
of
thumb
is
that
the
that
the
structural
components
be
darker,
which
is
kind
of
the
opposite
of
what
is
happening
here.
So
I
kind
of
wanted
propose
to
either
invert
the
color
scheme
and
I'm
going
to
show
you.
G
So
these
These
are
the
colors
Sage
piece,
yellow
Brookwood,
dark,
green
and
ismer
purple,
so
the
primary
is
sage
and
the
trim
is
this
piece
yellow,
and
so
what
I'm,
assuming
is
the
trim
is
the
wood
structure
or
the
wood
components
of
the
facade.
So
when
you
look
at
it
here,
so
they're
they're
kind
of
similar
in
terms
of
like
the
tonality,
but
the
green
always
comes
off
a
little
darker
just
because
of
the
color
theory,
so
either
these
could
be
inverted
or
like
look
at
different
color
schemes.
G
I
want
I,
actually
sat
down
with
Photoshop
and
I
was
gonna
play
around
with
all
the
color
schemes.
I
just
did
not
have
time.
That
being
said,
there's
the
smaller
details
that
as
staff
I,
don't
believe
they,
the
accent.
Colors
detract
from
the
main
issue
or
the
paint
color.
So
this
is
just
a
case
where,
where
we,
the
the
HPC,
should
determine
whether
this
particular
color
scheme
is
appropriate
as
it
is
or
if
another
iteration
of
the
color
scheme
might
be
more
appropriate
for
the
house.
G
I
think
one
of
the
biggest
priorities
to
Accent
this
type
of
era
of
building
is
to
make
sure
that
there
is
a
nice
contrast
between
what
would
be
the
structural
wood
and
what
would
be
the
background
right
now,
for
example,
that
color
is
not
painted
in
like
traditional
dark
wood,
as
you
would
see
in
Germany
or
in
England,
and
then
it
doesn't
have
the
natural
colors
that
it
wouldn't
have
had
in
this
16th
century,
aura
or
17th
century,
or
even
the
19th
century
version,
so
yeah.
G
So
basically,
staff
likes
the
colors,
but
also
has
that
small
concern
about
whether
that
color
can
be
inverted
or
if
it
can
be
left
as
it
is
so
two
or
Revival
color
schemes.
G
G
Traditionally
you
want
to
have
a
much
darker
wood,
a
wood
frame
and
a
much
lighter
background,
but
then
this
is
much
more
similar
to
what
the
petitioner
is
proposing,
which
would
look
kind
of
like
a
fairy
tale
or
like
an
illustration,
from
a
19th
century,
children's
book
I've
seen
illustrations
that
have
like
this
sort
of
color
palette
in
them.
G
So
there
there
is
precedent
to
doing
this
type
of
paint
color
scheme
in
this
type
of
building,
but
with
that
I
kind
of
wanted
to
wanted
to
leave
it
to
more
eyes
additional
people
that
have
you
know
all
of
you
who
have
can
have
a
different
take
on
this
so
and
I
can
leave
it
either
with
this
photo
or
with
the
color.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
Gloria,
so,
let's
any
addition,
information
for
us.
O
You
know
it's,
it's
unclear
that
this
is
an
Elizabethan
Revival
I
mean
it
may
be
considered
a
like
a
chalet
bungalow.
You
look
at
Shelley,
bungalow
I
mean
look
at
the
way
the
eaves
are
I
mean
it's
not
that's,
not
a
traditional
in
any
sense.
G
O
Mean
it's
debatable
about
what
style
it
is.
It's
not
I,
don't
think
it's
a
Tudor
style
house
and
I'm
not
sure
whether
to
lose
a
beef
and
is
but
I
find
this
house
to
be
more
of
a
what
I
would
call
The
Chalet
Bungalow
and
it
kind
of
leans
a
little
bit
in
the
in
the
vein
of
a
what
they
call
an
oriental
Bungalow.
E
O
Of
the
shape
of
the
eaves
and
the
ornamentation
on
the
eaves,
a
Tudor
style
house
is
very
Stark.
It
doesn't
have
that
ornamentation
that
you
have
with
these
fly
knees.
So,
having
said
that,
I,
don't
I,
don't
feel
like
it's
necessary
to
stick
to
a
rigid
interpretation
of
what
a
a
Tudor
style
house
is.
O
Thank
you
very
much
and
when
I
peel,
this
paint
I
feel
this
paint
off
and
then
past
years
stuff,
it's
a
stucco
house
and
it
hadn't
been
painted
until
who
knows
when
I
mean
we
couldn't
find
any
pictures
of
it,
and
so
before
it
was
painted,
it
was
stucco
Brown
and
who
knows
what
color
the
trim
was.
O
Another
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
the
these
corner
pieces
they're
that
that's
ornamentation,
that's
paint
enough.
That's
not
trim
so
somewhere
in
the
life
of
this
house.
Someone
came
up
with
this
color
scheme
and
they
applied
it
and
that's
what
sitting
there
presently
and
so
I
in
our
sense
of
aesthetic.
We
think
the
house
is
just
too
overwhelmingly
bright
and
I
agree.
You
know
it
it
kind
of
jumps
out
in
the
neighborhood.
We
want
it
to
blend
in
the
neighborhood.
So
that's
that's
our
goal.
Okay,
thank.
G
H
G
J
J
J
Senior
I'm,
sorry
just
one
second
I'm,
just
I'm
going
to
continue
to
ask
her
my
questions.
Thank
you.
In
your
opinion,
not
just
based
on
what's
in
the
report,
what
style
home
is
this
that
would
really
help
you
know
if
we
could
nail
that
down,
because.
G
Can
see
there
there's
and
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
because
of
the
interim
report
had
this
information
and-
and
you
know,
you're-
probably
way
more
correct
than
the
end.
The
interim
report
is
is
one
of
the
earlier
an
older
survey
that's
been
done
over
and
over
and
Shard
is
kind
of
its
inheritor,
but
it's
a
it's
a.
G
K
G
And
that's
where
you
find
the
combination,
but
it
definitely
there
are
a
lot
of
eclectic
buildings
at
the
turn
of
the
century,
not
just
in
Bloomington
but
in
different
parts
of
the
United
States
that
combine
different
types
of
neoclassical
and
international
Styles.
G
So
in
that
regard,
if
with
the
additional
information
and
seeing
like
yeah
looking
at
a
chalets
like
yes,
it
does
make
a
lot
of
sense.
I
actually
didn't
want
to
make
this
like
a
really
big
deal
or
like
or
stir
the
pot
with
a
painting.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
I
looked
at
the
references
and
that
the
color
scheme
would
be
appropriate,
because
this
is
one
of
the
more
strict
historic
districts
in
Bloomington
making
sure
that
I
don't
like
that.
Everything
is
as
much
in
compliance.
That's
not!
G
The
color
combination
itself
is
very
much
in
keeping
with
that
era.
That
era
of
building
a
turn
of
the
century
style.
J
So
you
do
find
the
colors
to
be
historically
appropriate.
Just
you
wanted
us
to
think
for
a
moment
about
the
contrast
and
whether.
G
That
was
something
yeah
within
the
context
like
coming
from
the
promise
that,
if
it
is
a
of
tutors,
a
Revival
or
some
type,
Elizabethan
would
be
a
type
of
tutor
Revival,
making
sure
that
we're
making
a
more
thoughtful
decision.
That
said,
like
as
staff
and
as
someone
who
works
with
like
different
types
of
buildings
here
that
color
combination
itself
as
it
is
now,
would
definitely
be
very
pleasant
to
the
eye.
It
does
look
very
much
like
a
19.
G
It
reminds
me
of
like
a
19th
century
Us
children's
book
illustration
for
housing
or
one
of
the
like
the
color
schemes
that
you
don't
see
and
in
early
20th
century,
but
there's
different
people
here.
Who've
had
a
lot
of
experience
with
these
types
of
buildings
who
might
be
able
to
give
a
different
type
of
perspective.
J
A
N
Lot
of
the
I
mean
it's
this
interesting
discussion
about
style,
because
the
word
style
should
have
been
taken
out
of
the
architectural
practice
a
long
time
ago.
Who's
ever
done
is
confuse
people
and
there's
no
such
thing
as
a
pure
style
of
anything
or
like
I
tell
this
is
kind
of
late
arts
and
crafts
is
what
it
is,
and
so
it's
it's
involved
a
lot
of
sort
of
emblematic
architectural
features.
All
in
one
structure.
E
N
Is
there's
nothing
pure
about
it?
It
is
timber
frame
which
I
think
is
what
Gloria
was
kind
of
after
because
the
representation
of
timber
frame
is
usually
that
the
timber
is
unpainted
and
dark
and
plaster
or
Pebble
finishes
snatches
natural
color,
that's
true.
Historically,
if
you're,
not
good
1500,
but
the
fact
is
I
mean
just
for
everybody.
We
hardly
ever.
We
reluctantly
regulate
color.
I
N
N
We
usually
just
say
you
know
whatever
suits
you
suits
me
and
that's
my
opinion
about
this
I
like
the
colors
you
chose
there,
probably
wouldn't
be
the
ones
that
I
would
choose,
but
I
think
they'll
be
fine
and
when
you're
you
move
on,
somebody
else
will
paint
another
color
and
as
long
as
the
house
is
still
there,
I'm
fine
with
it.
So
that's
been
the
general
attitude
that
we've
taken
not
not
worried
over
taste
issues
of
taste,
which
is
what
this
is.
S
A
A
A
Yeah,
okay
and
I
have
to
agree
with
my
fellas
Commissioners
and
what
happened.
I
was
going
to
say
about
the
color
schemes
this
time.
So
Heron
said
that
we
need
a
motion
to
improve
or
to
this
group
so
move
approve.
Thank
you
thinking.
Do
you
do
the
Roll
Call.
F
I
I
G
K
A
A
M
G
G
I
wasn't
able
to
find
good
information
about
in
the
Monroe
County
History
Center
like
there
may
have
changed
address
at
some
point.
Maybe
maybe
Forest
Deckard
and
his
wife
Alberto
lived
there,
but
maybe
it
was
a
different
address.
It
was
definitely
the
first
building
to
be
built
in
that
neighborhood.
There
was
nothing
around
around
it
in
1949
when
the
photo
was
taken
when
the
aerial
photo
was
taken.
So
this
is
the
lot.
This
is
the
building.
It
actually
predates
the
the
main
road
it's
on
and
I.
G
Also
so
the
roof
the
roof
like
the
size
of
everything,
is,
has
been
pretty
intact
and
in
this
time
I
looked
up
various
kit
houses
because
it
looks
very
similar
to
some
kid
houses,
but
it
doesn't
quite
match
any
of
them
like
it
looks
kind
of
like
it
could
be
a
second
cousin's
Wicked
house.
It
might
be
a
kid
house
but
of
a
different
company.
G
That
said,
I
wasn't
able
to
find
more
and
I
wanted
to
make
a
case
for
it,
but
it
it's
just
very
I
just
have
been
struggling
to
find
information,
Beyond
it
being
a
contributing
building,
that's
pretty
intact
in
its
size
and
scale,
and
look
what
really
contribute
to
a
district
with
similar
sized
buildings
of
a
similar
era.
G
I
do
I
I,
don't
know
I'm
extremely
compelled
by
the
chimney
for
some
reason
and
its
location
and
its
size.
But
that
said
it.
It's
just
very
uphill
for
me
to
find
to
be
able
to
make
the
argument
and
I
went
ahead
and
copy
pasted,
the
five
or
sorry
the
different
categories
that
are
used
and
or
parameters
that
the
city
uses
in
when
designated
a
historic
district,
so
I
copy
pasted
that
to
one
of
the
houses
later
on,
we
can
look
at
that
more
I'm
going
to
see
the
just
gonna.
G
Okay,
allow
Brian
Strasser
the
the
petitioner
who
is
online
in
case
he
wants
to
comment
so
I
just
allowed
him
the
ability
to
unmute
but
yeah.
So,
just
at
this
point,
as
staff
I
recommend
release
but
hesitantly,
this
one
had
come
before
the
HPC
before
and
it
had
already
been
released.
However,
One
release
should
never
guarantee
another
release.
A
Great
Ryan:
do
you
have
some
additional
comments
or
information
for
us.
D
I,
don't
know
traditional
I,
just
thanks
for
hearing
this
and
for
all
the
research
that
Gloria
put
forth
just
to
kind
of
make
sure
everything
and
get
all
the
information
to
everyone.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
Ryan
Daniel,
any
questions.
A
J
Probably
for
staff
are
the
materials
that
are
on
the
building
original
or
have
they
been
replaced,
for
example,
the
shingles
and
the
oh
and
the
windows,
and
so
on.
So.
G
To
Shard
there
are
some
original
Windows
there
deciding
I'm,
not
sure
like
a
study
would
have
to
be
done.
This
is
a
1940
building,
so
it's
a
little
bit
more
recent
than
others,
but
it's
still
like
of
a
a
particular
historical.
It
reflects
like
late
1930s
stylistic
ideals
and
and
some
of
the
kit
houses
that
were
and
styles
that
were
in
fashion
during
that
era.
G
It's
very
intact
is
something
that
I
like
about
it,
but
informed
like
the
massing
and
the
fenestration
placement
windows
and
doors,
but
I
can't
really
attest
to
make
the
original
siding.
J
J
G
A
My
question
comment
any
comments,
Matthew
well,
I
will
say:
I
mean
it's
I
appreciate
all
the
research
and
it
is
definitely
intriguing,
especially
the
to
me
there
and
some
similarities.
A
It
shares
with
kit
houses
and
where
it
was
originally
and
but
I,
don't
think
we
have
enough
information
or
enough
enough
about
it
from
this
view
to
to
make
a
a
good
case
with
the
city
council
that
this
one
should
be
nominated
for
the
or
put
on
the
city
register,
so
I
I'd
be
in
favor
of
not
doing
that
and
releasing
thank
you.
Bernard
Daniel
Sam.
H
Oh,
this
is
just
the
blinking
comment
in
the
spirit
of
what
Matthew's
first
comment
is,
and
that
I
would
encourage
the
owner
of
all
of
these
structures
to
if
they
have
not
already
run
them
by
Bri,
to
see,
if
there's
anything
salvageable,
even
habitat
might
be
able
to
reuse
some
of
the
the
windows
and
doors
for
ReStore
purposes,
so
anything
you
can
keep
out
of
the
landfill
would
be
greatly
appreciated.
H
H
Got
is:
can
we
we've
got
ice,
we've
got
one
from
the
current
petitioner
and
then
the
subsequent
ones,
I
leave
all
from
those
two
characters
in
the
back.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
bundle
them
in
the
interest
of
time.
Okay,.
A
Cool
excellent
thanks,
Sam
cousins,.
A
N
Their
ubiquitousness
is
one
of
the
things
that
qualifies
them.
The
fact
that
they
were
so
common
in
a
period
of
time.
You
know
World
War,
II,
post-world,
War,
II,
there's,
there's
a
there's,
several
volumes
of
books
on
the
modern
house
and
this
there's
pictures
of
this
house
all
over
the
place.
The
fact
that
it
is
ubiquitous,
usually
in
historic
preservation
means
well,
there's
lots
of
them.
So,
let's
so
what?
N
If
we
lose
one,
but
when
you
lose
whole
Suburban
neighborhoods,
as
Gloria
pointed
out
tooth
by
tooth,
they
become
more
and
more
significant
and
I
wasn't
kidding
about
the
argument
about
sustainability.
It's
not
sustainable
to
tear
down
usable
structures
that
meet
an
economic
need
and
we
have
a
desperate
housing
need
to
build
a
speculative
property,
which
is
almost
clearly
what's
going
to
happen
here
and
and
I.
Just
I
find
that
I
think
it's
part
of
historic
preservation's
duty
to
look
at
issue
those
issues
of
sustainability
and
environmental
impact,
along
with
everybody
else
and
I.
N
Think
that's
a
rationale
for
designation
personally
and
I
would
stand
up
and
make
it
I'm
not
saying
I'd
get
the
votes,
but
we've
got
to
stop
destroying
what
our
ancestors
have
built
out
of
real
material
with
real
effort,
and
we
can't
keep
throwing
that
value
away.
I,
don't
care
who
the
Speculator
is
across
the
board:
it's
not
personal
worldwide.
A
Let's
move
on
I
moved
to
Sam
Reed
the
statement
for
this
one.
H
Right
today,
regarding
the
property
located
at
219,
East
19th
Street,
the
historic
preservation
commission
declares
that
it
got
noticed
of
proposed
Demolition
and
after
today's
discussions
he's
no
need
to
review
the
plans
any
further
and
waves.
The
rest
of
the
demolition
delay
waiting
period.
The
HBC
May
later
recommends
property
for
historic,
designation
to
the
government.
Council.
C
I
E
I
C
I
G
Yeah
so
they're,
actually
the
lots
are
pretty
big,
so
I
I'm
gonna
go
to
elevate
for
a
second
just
because
I
had
we
had
seen
the
I
mean.
G
G
So
I
just
want
to
show
you
the
properties
that
we're
talking
about
or
this
corner
just
so
that
you
can
get
an
idea,
because
we
are
talking
about
the
four
of
them
simultaneously.
It's
this
one,
this
one
this
one
and
this
one.
G
So
they
they
do
make
a
corner,
and
each
of
them
is
relatively
towards
the
front
of
the
lot,
but
not
not
right
by
the
road
either.
Each
of
them
has
a
bit
of
yard
just
to
I'm
just
trying
to
provide
a
tiny
bit
more
context
so
that
you
can
place
yourself
because
the
photographs
don't
really
show
the
scaling
of
how
an
each
is
located.
G
So
the
building
I
used,
the
information
I
was
able
to
find
in
Shard
about
the
type
of
Windows
they
have
in
this
case,
having
half
circle
light
metal
panel,
the
building
has
additions
and
the
windows
and
roofs
have
been
replaced
and
some
windows
and
roofs
have
been
replaced.
Staff
so
for
any
of
the
four
building
staff
was
not
able
to
find
information
about
previous
owners
who
lived
there
or
what
the
buildings
were
used.
We
sort
the
date
that
we
do
have
is
from
Shard.
G
As
well
for
each
of
them,
they're,
each
of
them
is
from
a
different
sort
of
period
in
early
20th
century,
and
each
of
them
represents
a
slightly
different
typology,
different
types
of
cottages,
Bungalows
and
even
a
ranch
style,
but
yeah,
starting
with
this
one.
The
building
is
severely
altered,
but
does
remain
some
of
the
retain
some
original
features
and
it
does
retain
some
of
the
original
roof
proportions
and
scaling
and
then
12,
20,
West,
Arlington
Road.
G
This
one
is
a
is
very
much
Bungalow
and
it's
also
had
windows
and
roofs.
The
roof
that
have
been
replaced
again
wasn't
able
to
find
information
about
who
lived
there
or
a
little
bit
more
about
its
history.
Builders,
that's
one
of
the
biggest
challenges
we
have
with
more
working-class
type
buildings
in
Bloomington
from
the
early
20th
century.
G
The
next
one.
This
one
has
does
have
some
original
Windows.
It
does
have
the
shingle
walls,
it
has
a
front
Dormer
window.
G
It
does
have
a
bit
of
a
different
design
style
to
it
again
wasn't
able
to
find
information
about
the
specific
building,
so
each
of
them
does
represent
a
very
unique
style
from
each
other
and
then
the
final
one
is
a
1950
masked
Ranch
very
much
a
mast
Ranch,
and
it
still
retains
all
of
that
all
of
those
characteristics,
including
the
the
chimney
on
one
side.
G
So
yeah,
that's
that's!
Where
we're
at
there's
not
a
lot
of
information
or
background
for
about
each
individual
building
about
its
history,
its
context,
we
do
have
some
information
on
each
style.
They
all
represent
working
middle
class,
family
types
of
houses
that
we
find
in
other
neighborhoods.
However,
these
all
have
much
bigger
yards
to
them.
They
are
a
little
bit
further
from
the
center
of
town
and
they
all
sort
of
fall
in
this
curve
corner
chamfer.
G
One
can
say,
with
that
staff
recommends
a
demolition
delay
release
unless
there,
an
argument
can
be
made
for
it
to
be
a
four
building
historic
district
representing
that
corner.
So
that's
where
we're
at.
A
I
K
I
K
Technically
listed
on
here
as
a
petitioner,
but
yes,
deaf
Bruce,
is
our
representative.
T
It's
interesting
to
be
sitting
back
here
for
a
change.
A
couple
of
things.
First,
off
these
I
have
some
other
pictures.
I
want
to
walk
around
them
for
the
petitioner
and
the
pictures
you
see
up
there
they're
in
much
better
shape,
I
think
other
than
that
one
at
1210,
especially
12
20.
You
know
it's
in
pretty
bad
shape,
1320,
which
has
the
shingles
on
it.
That
one
is
really
close
to
the
road
and
it
looks
like
it
has
a
newer
type
of
foundation.
T
In
the
back
and
then
the
Limestone,
the
kind
of
the
Mast
Ranch
at
1404,
which
is
the
northernmost
one,
is
in
really
poor
shape
and
has
a
failing,
Limestone
and
the
back
Gable
was
missing.
It's
siding
matter
of
fact.
It
was
open
when
I
was
there,
it
looks
like
everything
has
been
stolen
out
of
it
and
the
walkout
basements
full
of
water.
T
But
a
couple
of
things
that
were
that
were
brought
up
here
that
I
just
want
to
add
real
quick
is
first
off
is
I.
Think
the
this
one
it's
listed
as
contributing
and
I
think
it's
overrated
I
think
the
1210
is
certainly
the
nicest
of
all
of
them
and
we've
talked
to
the
owner
because
we
brought
up
the
idea.
You
know
and
I
know.
Bri
is
always
strapped
for
money,
but
certainly
they
would
work
with
Bri
or
anybody
else
that
wanted
to
salvage
these
and
the
materials
again,
a
keeping
it
out
of
the
landfill.
T
But
one
of
the
thoughts
that
that
we
had
was
that,
because
these
aren't
in
the
city
center,
it
may
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
move
one
of
these
because
we're
out
where
maybe
there
is
a
little
more
property
available
for
this.
You
know.
We
all
know
this
road
and
because
of
the
with
the
roundabout
and
the
heavy
amount
of
traffic
there.
This
is
not,
and
even
though
these
yards
are
big,
where
these
houses
sit
other
than
again
maybe
12
10,
it's
not
a
place
to
have
kids
in
the
family
right
up
against
the
street.
T
These
are
very
difficult.
Three
of
the
houses
have
been
vacant.
It's
pretty
difficult
to
say
this
is
a
place
for
a
family
to
live
at
least
safely
I
I
had
a
hard
time
pulling
out
onto
Arlington
because
of
the
traffic.
T
So
so
certainly
the
owner
is
agreeable
to
looking
at
Bri
or
or
some
other
group
to
try
to
look
at
moving
them
and
they
would
work
with
them
in
a
time
schedule
for
it.
We
don't
really
I
mean
wish
we
weren't
sitting
here
for
this.
T
The
other
thing
I
would
bring
up
when
it
talks
about
a
district.
Is
that
you
know,
there's
really
nothing
unifying
about
these
four.
They
do
represent
different
time
periods.
They
certainly
are
different
styles,
but
they're,
not
styles,
that
were
and
again
I
know.
Duncan
talked
about
this
earlier
of
of
losing
and
and
we
couldn't
find
it,
and
we
looked
as
well
to
see
if
there
was
anything
historical
here.
The
petitioner
was
kind
of
thrown
into
this.
T
They
they
went
through
planning
a
year
ago
and
and
got
their
their
approval
for
their
site,
but
there
was
a
disconnect
somewhere
and
I
know.
We've
talked
about
this
over
over
the
years.
Planning
didn't
send
this
forward
to
demo
delay
last
year.
So
this
this
didn't
come
before
you
and
they
went
ahead
and
they've
worked
on
their
development
project.
That's
going
to
be
here
and
then
it
was
brought
up
when
they
were
getting
their
grading.
Permit
that,
oh,
you
don't
have
demo
permits
for
these.
T
J
Allison
so
miss
Stein,
are
you
representing
your
just
yourself
or
I?
Am
not
the
owner.
K
K
J
K
I
I
Q
Q
I'm
glad
you
phrase
it.
That
way.
Is
there
some
other
way
it
possibly
could
qualify
other
than
individually.
A
I
have
any
questions
at
this
point
comment
Allison.
H
Before
I
have
sympathy
for
what
Duncan
is.
A
My
only
time
I'm
gonna
get
I
had
to
something
like
this
go
away.
On
the
other
hand,
I
can't
see
us
designating
four
houses
in
historic
history.
At
this
point,
any
additional
comments.
A
Hearing
not
others
Sam.
You
want
to
read
that
I.
H
They're
helpful
over
here
awesome
and
let
me
know
if
I
get
any
wrong.
H
Today,
regarding
the
properties
located
at
1210,
West
Arlington,
Road,
1220,
West,
Arlington,
Road,
1320,
West,
Arlington
Road
and
1404
West
Arlington
Road,
the
historic
preservation
commission
declares.
It
got
noticed
to
propose
Demolition
and
after
today's
discussion
sees
no
need
to
review
the
plans
any
further
and
waives
the
rest
of
the
demolition
delay
rate
the
waiting
period.
The
HBC
May
later
recommend
the
property
for
historic
designation
to
the
common
Council.
A
I
understand
all
right:
let's
move
on
to
23
.09
is
that
one
New
York
1411
West
17th
Street
yeah
all.
I
G
Is
requesting
the
full
demolition
of
not
the
contribute
that
so
the
house
is
contributing.
However,
this
it's
this
mouth
shed,
not
the
house,
it's
a
small
shed
at
the
back
behind
the
house
that,
according
to
elevate,
is
dates
either
to
1940
or
1945..
G
The
metal
casement
window
is
reminiscent
of
the
era
this
particular
show.
So
it's
not
for
the
house.
It's
only
like
for
this
shed,
not
the
other
shed
just
this
one
shed
on
its
own.
This
structure
does
not
meet
the
architectural
historical
criteria
for
historic,
designation,
yeah,
it's
in
very
poor
condition
and
yeah.
So
staff
recommends
release
of
this
demolition
delay
and
let
me
try
it
out
sorry
about
that.
K
C
K
I
O
G
G
A
Right,
thank
you,
our
petitioners
now
with
us,
but
do
we
have
questions
of
Gloria
at
this
point?
Okay,
do
we
have
any
confidence.
S
A
All
right,
very
good
Sammy
want
to
read
the
delay
and
I
think
we
ought
to
be
specific
about
that.
H
Yeah
regarding
the
shed
with
attached
birdhouse
property
located
at
1411
West
17th
Street,
the
historic
preservation
commission
declares
that
it
got
noticed
at
the
proposed
Demolition
and
after
today's
discussion
sees
no
need
to
review
the
plans
any
further
and
waves.
The
rest
of
the
demolition
delay
awaiting
period.
The
HTC
May
later
recommend
the
property
for
historic
designation
to
the
common
Council.
F
A
E
D
A
A
G
Okay,
so
520
North
Walnut.
G
M
L
G
Me
a
tour
of
the
building.
The
petitioner
gave
me
a
tour
of
the
building
and
told
me
some
stories
and
actually
yeah
I
think
you've
been
emailed
me.
Some
maybe.
G
This
is
one
of
the
this
is
a
very
prominent
house
with
a
lot
of
history.
However,
it's
I
don't
believe
it's
in
a
historic
district,
so
there's
a
lot
of
issues
with
it.
They
are
applying
for
the
buea
facade
Grant,
so
the
buea.
All
of
this
is
pretty
recent.
The
buea
received
the
the
information
I
send
it
their
way
so
that
they
can
start
working
on
their
own
process.
However,
on
our
side
of
this
again
like
this,
is
my
super
incomplete
presentation,
what
they
are
requesting
from
the
bhpc.
G
The
Bloomington
preservation
commission
is
the
the
500
grant
for
the
condition
survey
work.
The
conditions
survey
was
actually
done.
In-House
I
already
visited
the
site
with
Suzanne
O'connell
and
who's
here,
and
they
did
provide
the
information
about
all
of
the
issues
that
they
have
found
with.
I
G
Facade
of
the
building,
a
lot
of
it
has
to
do
with
cracked
Stone
issues
with
different
columns
concrete
floor,
they're
spalling.
So
they
want
to
tuck
point
change.
The
part
of
the
concrete
floor
rebuild
part
of
the
West
wall
with
original
Stone
and
Capstone.
So
this
project
is
going
to
come
to
us
via
demolition
delay
in
our
next
meeting,
because
there
is
going
to
be
a
removal
of
possible
removal
of
two
or
three
of
various
cup,
multiple
columns
that
will
be
replaced
with
identical
columns.
However,
because
this
is
an
outstanding
building.
G
It's
such
an
important
structure,
but
that's
not
what
we're
talking
about
today.
Today,
we
are
talking
about
the
Merit
of
paying
a
Cedar
View
management
who
are
working
with
this
project,
granting
them
500
in
order
to
help
offset
the
cost
of
the
project
in
general,
so
that
the
the
cost
is
more
for
the
work
of
surveying
and
conditions,
reporting
figuring
out,
what's
happening
with
the
structure
and
rather
than
for
the
big
project
itself,
which
is
going
to
be
I.
Think
about
40.
C
L
Know
just
fixing
painting
we
ended
up
in
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
repairs
on
the
porch,
and
that
was
not
the
masonry
and
what
we
determined
was
that
the
porch
was
actually
collapsing
and
if
it
would
have
gone
through
that
winter,
with
the
Snows
we
had
that
winter.
That
porch
would
have
fully
collapsed.
Luckily
that
did
not
happen.
We
found
it,
but
we
spent
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
the
porch
10
years
ago.
Now,
it's
time
to
do
the
masonry.
L
There
are
two
of
The
Columns
that
absolutely
need
replaced.
Obviously
they
are
supporting
the
porch
as
well,
and
then
it's
just
you
know.
We
found
that
one
of
the
front
wall,
the
West
Wall,
is
buckling,
and
so
we
need
to
take
that
wall
deconstruct
that
wall
and
then
take
out
the
cement
and
redo
the
cement.
We're
going
to
add
a
couple
of
floor
drains
to
help
mitigate
some
of
the
pressure.
That's
been
going
against
the
West
wall
and
then
put
cement
back
in
and
rebuild
the
wall
with
the
original
Stones.
A
So
this
happens
to
be
for
the
grant.
So
what
we
need
is
a
petition
to
approve
this,
to
give
them
the
grant
money
to
move
forward.
So.
G
Yeah,
so
this
is
for
the
so
there
are
two
grams:
there
is
the
large
ten
thousand
dollar
Grant
which
the
beautya
will
be
looking
at
and
which
they
will
invite,
like.
The
staff,
like
myself,
has
to
give
a
report
on
on
the
merits
of
the
case
and
which
the
public
and
the
HPC
is
welcome
to
give
marriage
so
there.
Actually,
this
one
has
three
three
steps
that
has
that
it
has
the
demolition
delay,
because
the
property
is
not
currently
a
historic
district
and
then
the
bhpc
grant
is
separate.
It's
supposed
to
complement
the
buea
grant.
G
So
this
is
a
much
smaller
Grant
and
it's
just
for
the
conditions
survey.
The
application
form
says
that
the
that
the
survey
has
to
be
done
or
that
the
assessment
has
to
be
done
either
by
somebody
in
the
states
list
of
historic
preservation
or
experts
lists
or
by
somebody
that
that
staff
recommends.
So
this
has
to
go
so
in
this
case
that
I'm
bringing
you
the
information
I
have,
and
so
that
you
can
make
a
determination,
so
basically
the
the
500
Grant.
G
We
have
enough
funds
right
now
for
five
five
hundred
dollar
grants
a
year.
This
is
just
to
offset
the
cost
of
doing
just
the
assessment.
It's
not
even
for
the
main
work
itself.
A
K
G
So
there
is
a
profession.
There
is
a
list
that
the
state
has
of
professional
like
qualified
Professionals
for
architecture,
historic
preservation,
it's
like
different,
Architects
and
and
historians.
Yeah
is
student
view
management,
no.
C
I
G
G
Yeah,
no,
it's
definitely
a
very
important
question
and
it's
part
of,
what's
being,
is
determined
whether
they
will
receive
the
money
or
not.
In
this
case
after
having
been
to
the
site,
which
is
one
of
the
con
like
one
of
the
requirements
for
the
bya
grant
and
having
been
walked
through
it.
G
G
The
result
of
the
of
the
recommendations
may
or
may
not
be
different.
Cedar
View
management
does
work
with
a
lot
of
buildings
with
maintaining
historic
buildings.
So
yeah,
that's
that's
part
of
it
and.
G
Yeah,
so
we
already
did
our
retroactive
payment
for
last
year
for
the
folk
with
the
smokestack
that
said,
it's
up
to
you
know
like
they're
they're
asking
it
is
up
to
you
to
determine
whether
it
qualifies
for
a
payment
or
not
I
recommend
that
it
be
used
because
it's
going
for
a
greater
good
and
the
building
does
need
the
help.
But
that
said,
it's
a
judgment
call
on
on
how
the
HPC
wants
to
proceed
with
this.
N
Well,
the
reason
that
these
grants
were
developed
with
the
stipulation
that,
if
he's
somebody
on
the
certified
professionals
list,
is
to
make
sure
that
the
advice,
sometimes
it's
design
advice
and
sometimes
it's
remediation
advice,
follow
secretary
standards
and
and
is
that
the
the
decisions
being
made
in
that
survey
are
being
made
by
somebody
who
is
trained
in
that
kind
of
work,
and
so
I
I
know
that
I
know.
This
is
probably
your
architect
right.
N
L
N
L
N
C
N
N
You
know
I'm,
not
saying
you
don't
in
this
case.
Our
stipulation
is
that
the
person
who
makes
these
surveys
be
a
certified
professional,
not
anyone
but
a
certified
historic
preservation
professional.
So
we
either
have
to
qualify
the
people
who
did
the
work,
that
they
have
those
certifications
or
you
have
to
use
somebody
who
does
have
those
certifications
to
go
and
have
a
look
and
make
recommendations,
and
that's
the
person
who
gets
the
five
hundred
dollars.
Sure
the
person
who
does
the
work.
G
Something
so
just
recommendation,
maybe
to
the
petitioners,
to
verify
with
the
architectural
firm
if
they
do
have
people
and
staff
that
work
with.
G
The
get
their
name
and
involved
and
return
like
with
the
additional
information
or
with
another
quote
for
the
next
meeting
for
the
demolition
delay.
Whenever
the
demolition
delay
is
being
attended
to
no.
K
C
L
J
N
So
the
normal
procedure
is
that
you
anybody
can
apply
for
the
grant
and
then,
if
it
wouldn't
be
great,
just
give
a
person
is
chosen
to
be
paid
to
do
the
work.
A
certified
professional
has
chosen.
It's
not
that
you
go
ahead
and
do
the
work
and
then
come
ask
for
the
money
that
so
that's
the
confusion.
J
Can
I
I
just
have
to
ask
this
question?
Is
Mr
Lewis
involved
with
Cedar
View
Management
in
any
proprietary
way.
L
J
I
K
A
Yeah,
thank
you
for
coming
in.
Thank
you
for
your
patience,
because
you've
been
here
the
whole
meeting
all
right.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,
let's
move
on.
We've
only
got
a
few
more
items:
new
business
invitation
to
consult
Second
Street
modernization
project
and
whatever
that
is
designation,
number
22,
0012,
Gloria,
yeah,.
G
So
with
this
specific
case,
because
I
originally
had
it
on
the
on
the
agenda
for
the
last
meeting,
however,
the
30
days
period
to
come
to
comment
to
respond.
G
Going
to
pass
anyways
way
before
this
meeting
I
went
ahead
and
sent
a
letter
that,
yes,
we
are
opted
in
and
that
yes,
there
is
an
area
of
ape
that
is
pretty
substantial
and
area
potential
effect.
We
don't
have
a
lot
of
detail
on
the
project
right
now.
We
just
have
this
map,
but
there
is
a
very
substantial
area
of
potential.
G
This
is
one
area
where
we
do
have
multiple
historic
districts.
We
have
a
a
one
building
historic
district
and
we
do
have
a
greater
Prospect
Hill
on
the
Northern
side.
Most
of
the
buildings
on
the
South
have
already
been
demolished.
However,
there
are
a
couple
left,
there's
also
going
to
be
a
lot
of
groundbreaking
and
we
do
have
a
former
State
historic
preservation
officer
for
archeology
here.
So
I
think
that
this
is
a
one
where
we
just
letting
you
know.
E
G
Yes,
so
let
me
pull
up
the
letter
that
I
did
send
them.
It's
going
to
take
me
a
second
while
I
pull
it
up
on
this
computer
and
we
can
send
an
additional
letter
like
already
like
hey.
This
is
kind
of
the
better
defining
the
parameters
and
if
you
want
to
Matt,
if
you
have
time
to
meet
at
some
point
in
the
next
few
weeks,
that's
going
to
be
very
or
next
yeah
week
or
so.
That
would
be
very,
very
helpful
so
that.
I
G
Was
this
letter
that
they
are
going
to
be
taking
an
undertaking
to
improve
Second
Street
from
Walker
Street
to
B-Line
Trail,
to
provide
curved
separated
bike
Lanes
along
the
north
side
of
the
road,
providing
a
critical
connection
between
the
Trail
West
of
Walker
Street
and
the
b
line?
It
will
also
involve
a
construction
of
public
right-of-way
accessibility
guidelines,
compliant
curb
ramps,
drainage
improvements
and
the
replacement
of
two
signals.
A
position
of
0.16
Acres
of
permanent
and
0.6
Acres
of
temporary
right-of-way
is
anticipated.
G
The
draft
is
need
is
based
on
lack
of
back
plays
between
the
Trail
West
of
Walker
Street
to
the
beeline
Trail
in
the
city
of
Bloomington.
The
draft
purpose
is
to
provide
a
Bikeway
between
the
two
Trails
improve
safety
for
pedestrian
bike
riders
across
between
the
two
trails
and
provide
roadway
improvements.
G
K
A
A
Is
either
I
I
really
want
to
see
the
details
of
what
they're
going
to
rip
up,
but
also
just
monitor
the
projects,
or
that
could
be
some
really
interesting
stuff
from
the
very
earliest
phases
of
you
know
going
into
history
and
it
pops
up
in
streets
all
the
time
yeah.
So,
just
as
long
as
we
could
say,
yeah
right.
A
Party
yeah,
that's
what
but
I
don't
want
them
to
think
that
we're
just
going
to
wait
and
comment
on
the
report
once
it's
in
I
would
like
to
say.
I
want
to
I
want
to
have
a
word
on
what
your
people
are
going
to
do
in
terms
of
identification,
because
they're
likely
to
go.
Oh,
it's
in
an
existing
Street
and
you.
N
N
A
But
I
did
read
it
said
and
we'll
send
you
the
results
of
the
archaeological
work
when
it's
done.
You
know
it
kind
of
impends
like
we're
going
to
do
it
and
send
you.
The
report
Yeah.
Well
yeah,
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
read.
I
agree
with
you.
That's
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be
done.
It's
not
often
it's,
oh
Consulting
party
Here's.
The
final
report.
Do
you
like.
G
So
this
is
part
of
the
letter
that
I
set
the
findings
that
we
had
I
just
sent
them
the
like
the
status
of
the
they
send
them
some
maps
and
the
different
buildings
of
obviously
that
gets
an
above
ground
person.
I
do
not
have
access
to
the
below
ground
map,
so
that's
not
like
my
preview,
but
and
I
also,
but
I
always
send
it
to
the
folk
at
ship
shippo,
and
this
is
doing
the
thing
that
it
does
where
it
doesn't
show
me
the
oh
there
we
go
okay.
A
G
We'd
like
to
talk
about
definitely
I
did
tell
them
that
I
wasn't
able
to
meet
with
our
historic
preservation.
Commission,
so
I
can
definitely
say.
These
are
some
of
the
conclusions
in
that
the
language
you
gave
me.
So
these
are
some
of
the
conclusions
once
it
was
presented
to
our
local
HPC.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
okay,
there's
one
last
thing:
I
think
you
can
really
deal
with
our
old
business,
and
that
is,
we
talked
about
getting
together
about
roofing
materials
and
we
have
not
set
a
date
or
time
for
us
to
get
together.
I
have
contacted
a
few
of
the
manufacturers
out
there
and
I
do
have
some
samples
for
us
to
review.
So
if
we
could
set
it
because
it's
we
have
to
make
this
published
where
people
know
where
we're
going
to
meet
in
time.
G
B
Hey
yeah,
can
you
guys
hear
me:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
so
it's
a
little
bit
of
both
it's
the
number
of
Commissioners,
but
it's
also
if
the
subcommittee
is
going
to
be
making
any
decisions,
that's
going
to
be
needed
to
be
open
to
the
public.
So
if
there's
taking
in
information
and
considering
it
it's
going
to
be
presented,
it
should,
on
the
safe
side,
be
open
to
the
public
as
well
so
having
multiple
Commissioners
on.
It
does
create
more
of
an
issue
with
that,
but
it's
also
kind
of
the
purpose
of
the
subcommittee
as
well.
G
A
Yeah
I'd
like
to
get
this
moving
forward
and
you
know
Tesla
roofs
are
now
in
Indianapolis.
There's
a
couple
of
people
down.
There.
I've
spoke
to
them
about
getting
a
sample
to
us
or
talking
to
us,
and
it
really
depends
on
a
date
and
time.
A
Going
to
review
you
know
when
we
had
the
house
over
there
in
Elm
Heights
and
where
we
had
to
kind
of
talk
about
replacing
the
asphalt
roof
with
Composite
Materials.
That's
what
the
community
is
going
to
get
together
and
talk
about
and
look
at
the
samples
that
we
have
and
how
we
want
to
present
that
to
their
associations,
because
they
will
have
to
probably
modify
their
rules.
If
we
move
forward
with
allowing
some
of
these
alternative
type
shingles
being
used.
A
A
Any
public
comments,
records
hearing,
then
words
earned
everything
in.