City of Bloomington, Indiana Hospital Site Redevelopment, 18 Nov 2020

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From YouTube: Bloomington Hospital Site Redevelopment Presentation to City Council on November 18, 2020

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Have you begin? Thank you very much. I appreciate it um just very briefly. I do want to echo what was.

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Said about covid I haven't had. I haven't spoken in front of you for a little while, but indeed.

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uh We are in very difficult days. I want to thank the partners who have worked with us.

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uh Since the spring, in our county, to do the right things and to be more controlling than.

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The state or the country have been that has helped us. We are in a better position in the state.

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But we are still deteriorating in this county as well in our community.

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We've had seven employee cases in the past several days. These are dangerous months ahead, as mentioned.

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Just for example, the state daily case average is up six-fold in the last six weeks.

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uh And is not pointed downward at all, so stay tuned, we'll be continuing to talk about next steps.

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For that, but I echo and affirm all that has been said tonight for tonight and I'll hand. It.

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Over to senator vi simpson, shortly for very brief introductions as well, I just want to.

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As you noted we're focusing on the hospital reuse, the draft final master plan, I want to thank the.

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Team that has worked so hard on that from skidmore owens merrill and many other partners inside the.

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City government and more than 500 members of the public for months of feedback and I'll just in.

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In advance, thank the council. You've had members, including particularly isabelle, piedmont, smith and.

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Jim sims on the steering and oversight committees, as well as kate, rosenberger and matt flaherty.

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Helping out in the selection process, thank you for your work and thank you tonight for your attention.

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Reactions feedback to this it's an ongoing process, but I welcome your advice and feedback and.

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Reactions for this once in a century very exciting project and let me hand it over to co-chair of the.

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Syrian committee senator vi simpson: who's done spectacular, work, helping steer this for years.

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And I'll hand it to you and then we'll we'll hand it over to the presenters thanks. So much.

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Thanks mayor- uh and I just want to reiterate my thanks to uh the members of the common council for.

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Giving us this opportunity to talk to you tonight and to show you some of the work that's been done.

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We've been, many of us have been working on this issue.

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For five going on six years now and uh and we have had ups and downs and sideways motions.

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As we've been working on it, um but it's getting to the point now where it's very exciting. We have.

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We have it we're very close now to the culmination of all of that work, and I really want to take this.

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Opportunity to thank the hundreds of people who have worked. Not only those who have served past.

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And present on the hospital reuse committee, but also the hundreds of people who have taken.

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Advantage of the opportunities for public input through public forums and through written comments.

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We have collected all of that information and what you're going to see tonight is uh really a.

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A polished draft- it's not the final, but it is uh it's a draft still of the.

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um Of our planning framework for going forward- and I hope that you're as excited as we are to.

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uh To see it, it's um we've come a long way and we have a long way to go. This is a long term project.

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Years and years in the past and going forward so we're anxious to hear your comments and.

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Answer any questions that you might have so with that I'll turn it over to mick who's.

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Going to introduce the uh the planning personnel. Thank you. Senator simpson and mayor hamilton.

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Mick grenizen deputy mayor, I serve as the city's project lead on the project review committee and I.

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Thought I would start by sharing with you a little bit of where we've been in the last five years.

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So that you have some context for what you're about to see from our planning consulting team.

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uh Skidmore owings and merrell, so just a refresher city, the city entered into a purchase agreement.

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With iu health back in may of 2018 to acquire the 24 acres that you see on this slide outlined.

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In yellow, not the dotted line, but the hard line in yellow that agreement took several years to.

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Negotiate and concluded that again in may of 2018 the entire area that is currently zoned medical.

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In this area is close to 70 acres and you can see that with the additional dotted line. I know.

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It's a little out of scale but there's actually 70 acres in total that are zoned medical in this area.

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I think the community is now well aware that iu health will be moving to their new site.

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Their beautiful new half a billion dollar investment on the east side of our community.

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Sometime in late 2021 and as is part of the purchase agreement, it states that the city.

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Will receive a clear and remediated site when the transfer of property occurs for the main site and.

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That main site is where the main hospital exists, all the sort of middle block between the dashed.

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Lines to the west and the block east of rogers is a different parcel that does not require the.

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The iu health folks to remediate that site the city has the option to keep two structures on the.

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Site per our agreement, one of those is the parking structure and the other is the core building and.

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To date, the city has opted to keep the parking structure and we have until the end of december.

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To make a decision on the core building and note that we anticipate taking a recommendation.

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On the core building to the redevelopment commission, which is the owner of this site in.

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December for their consideration throughout this process, starting back in 2015 as senator simpson.

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Said a 30-plus member hospital reuse committee, consisting of local residents from all walks of.

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Life have helped steer the project forward and, as I've told uh co-chair simpson, you're not done.

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After this it'll take years ahead for your group to continue to help shepherd the project forward,.

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So on the next slide, I wanted to outline a little bit about.

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What the timeline is and some of the steps that have been taking place and what's coming forward.

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So, with the assistance of that big hospital reuse committee, the city has selected a.

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Master planning team- that's the skidmore, owings and merrill group back in january.

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Together, we've conducted stakeholder and small group interviews that occurred in may and early.

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June, the first public forum was held on june 16th and mind you. It was held in the format that we're.

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All getting used to over the last nine months on zoom and we had 200 participants in that first.

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Forum and that forum asked the participants what they would like to see on the site as.

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It redeveloped, so it was really wide open at the very beginning stages back in june. At the second.

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Public forum, which was held on august 6, there were still more than 100 in attendance. This forum.

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Focused on economic conditions and the early conceptual design options, reflecting feedback.

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From forum 1 and input from approximately 300 survey, respondents between those two forums.

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The third public forum occurred on october 6th. There were 74 folks that attended that meeting.

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At the meeting we shared the final or I'm sorry, the refined plan, based on the comments from those.

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Received throughout the previous two forums and the surveys that were part of that process,.

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Since that third forum, som, has refined the draft master plan to reflect the scale of.

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The proposed redevelopment, rather than the character of the redevelopment opportunity.

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So after tonight, between now and the end of the process, which we think will be by the end,.

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Of the year, the final opportunity to comment will be after we post tonight's presentation.

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The full recording of the presentation, as well as just the powerpoint, that everyone's about to see.

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On our website bloomingtonhospitalsite.com, that's all one word bloomingtonhospitalsite.com, where.

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You can not only find tonight's presentation, but all the other information leading up to tonight.

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There's a form: google form that folks can fill out after this evening's presentation and share your.

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Comments on that google form and those will be considered and we'll take them all the way through.

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November, 29th and I'll repeat this at the end for those that might be joining later and just again.

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If you have any questions or suggestions, if you go to bloomingtonhospitalsite.com.

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There's a wealth of information there that have informed the hospital reuse committee, all along.

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So if you'll go to the next slide, rachel I'll just conclude by saying the draft master plan.

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Being presented tonight builds on past planning efforts, including the urban land institute report.

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That was commissioned back in 2018. That's the report on the right side of the slide.

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And the city's 2018 comprehensive plan and, in addition, the current udo mapping process.

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That is currently underway. So all of these planning efforts are are part of the discussion.

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And will be part of the decision-making process moving forward and you can see on this slide. I.

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Won't read them to you, some of the goals that were identified for the site by the community.

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During that part of the planning process, I think it's important to note that a master plan develops.

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Concepts and a framework for development rather than a master plan. What it doesn't do is not.

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Create an architecturally designed building that will ultimately be built on the site.

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That comes later, as the site becomes available for development and while the main hospital site.

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Will not be available until probably early 2023 after the demolition and remediation is completed.

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Some of the areas outside of the main site may be available later in 2021.

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Also, we'll just reiterate that for for all future steps, after this master plan,.

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Is completed, the public will continue to have input as those development projects.

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Come forward and we'll talk about that at the end of the presentation. So now I'd like to turn.

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It over to rachel mahmany from som to lead us through the next part of the presentation, rachel.

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Sorry I was muted uh hi everyone and thank you mick for the introduction, as mick mentioned.

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We've been on board since april of 2020, when this process began and from the very beginning.

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We saw input from the community with the help of our consultants core, as well as mary krapinski.

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Who is local to the community to gather valuable input from various community stakeholders on how.

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To move this project forward and being that we are in different times, um we had to do community.

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Engagement uh not like we normally would, which would be in person, and so we've been able to.

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Utilize zoom, as you can see, on on the right there um sort of bloomington bunch all in blue. There.

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As we've come to be known through this process, but we've been able to utilize.

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These platforms, along with surveys, the website that you can see on the top right of the page.

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um To gather that input um and since then we've been working to translate that input um into a.

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Comprehensive master plan, as well as guidelines um for this 24 acre project site um we're also.

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Working now, in tandem to translate this vision um into uh potential zoning updates um for for.

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Later approval by the city plan, commission and common council.

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So, throughout this process um we have gathered over 539 unique touch points.

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From the bloomington community, so this has come in the form of one-on-one interviews done by.

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Core, as well as mary karpinski in the community, and these then have been on a wide range of topics.

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Together, important and valuable information to inform this process.

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We've also met with a variety of community associations, the neighboring uh neighborhood.

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Associations, mcdole gardens and prospect hill, and we've also had, as mc has mentioned on these.

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Three public forums leading up to today, so in that way we've been able to gather a lot of.

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Valuable input to put towards what you'll see during today's presentation.

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um During our last public forum, we were able to get more interactive in getting.

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uh Sort of pulling from the audience as well as kind of working in a more sort of workshop fashion,.

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With you all and it in each of these public forum meetings, we've gathered the information from the.

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Transcript from the chat features from um taking screenshots of work that we've done during these.

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Meetings just to make sure that we are hearing what you have said throughout this whole process,.

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And one of the key questions really early on was: how do we translate uh the values of bloomington.

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uh In the city goals for the future of this uh site and apply them um to the planning.

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Process, and so um what we've come up with, are the what we've been calling.

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Planning principles that really have captured um ideas from the past planning efforts that.

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Nick went through with the comprehensive plan and the uli study, as well as community input.

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From this effort to kind of boil down to what you see here, with these nine different principles,.

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That range from sort of highest and best use diversity of housing, types and mixes of uses.

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Really we heard activation is important, but maybe not in the form of retail, but maybe those come in.

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The form of community amenities and new hubs for the community that will really kind of.

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Strengthen the connections between people and the place and in addition, we focused a lot really on.

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The public realm and how we would create a people first, a street design, creating a well-scaled.

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Network of spaces and well-scaled blocks and ultimately came up with what we're calling.

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A flexible framework for future development, so thinking about the fact that you know, as mick said.

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We're not, you know, designing the architecture that goes there, but really kind of creating.

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uh The framework in the kit of parts for the future success of the site, making sure that.

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We're enveloping everything that we've heard from the community to date.

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And so we'll bring you through some of those planning framework ideas and so.

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If we could just take a minute to kind of scale back um to the more sort of regional.

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Sort of area we found these uh diagrams to be really helpful in in um kind of understanding.

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The importance of this site in the relationship to both downtown university and these other really.

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um Important developments taking place along the b line, we've heard it been called this sort of.

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Bloomington string of pearls and we're noting that the hospital site.

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Is really an important key feature along that string of girls, as it's been called.

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We also see the site as sort of a next link in expanding the sort of network of.

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Both sort of cyclists and pedestrian trails um within uh the area um we see this uh having the.

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Ability to connect to the larger park system from the university and uh the sort of assets downtown.

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And then uh down west and south to both the twin lakes park, as well as um switchyard to the.

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South and then between rca and wapani parks, um so really a key link um in the overall.

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Community and hoping that this could become a new sort of uh center of gravity um that will.

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Kind of enhance quality of life for everyone in the surrounding area and really um filling in a.

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Void in the sort of neighborhood fabric that exists today, so here we're looking once again.

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At the study, area and mick had shown this earlier kind of a smaller version, but just to reiterate.

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The site to be redeveloped is the 24 acre hospital site shown in the solid yellow line and in.

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Addition to the area to be, or the additional acres to be resoned is shown in the dash yellow line.

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And that's to the west and just to orient you all. This image is facing south and so north is to the.

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Bottom right of the page- and you can see the b line along the uh eastern side of the development.

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Which is on the left side of this page and second street along here with building trades park, so the.

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Existing site, the hospital, as well as the parking garage which, uh as mick said, will remain uh the.

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Core building to potentially remain, um but this is kind of how we'll be looking at the site.

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Moving through the next series of slides, but just quickly to kind of look at some of those existing.

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Sort of characteristics of the site we had the opportunity to do a couple of walking tours early.

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On and then again more recently, so you can see the the fall coloring in those photos there, um but we.

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Think it's very helpful and important to really uh understand the diversity uh and unique edges.

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um As well as the sort of existing scale that exists there today, and so we can see in.

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The upper left image really how sort of tall the actual existing hospital building is today and so.

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That kind of gives us a sense of the opportunity that exists along second street. For some of that.

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Height and then in contrast on the bottom left of the page, we can see some of that smaller, more.

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Fine-Grained fabric to the south, in the mcdoll garden, neighborhood and then on the top right.

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Looking at existing amenities, the bee line is just an amazing asset to have adjacent to this site.

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In terms of connectivity to the larger area, as well as the sort of historic context and fabric.

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That we have on the site today like the core administrative building. So there are a lot of.

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Great opportunities to work with on the site, and so what we'll do is we'll walk through a series.

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Of updated diagrams um you all whoever attended the forum iii saw a similar series of diagrams.

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um Which we've since improved upon with your input, so these will show up, show a build up of.

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The master plan concept or framework, as we've been referring to it, is in these conversations the view.

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Is similar to the bird's eye view that we just were looking at north is to the bottom right of.

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The page- and this will be towards downtown um here along the east side of the development, is.

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The bee line with the kroger and that parking lot along the north side um is second street.

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As well as building trades park and in the red coloration, these are the buildings um on the.

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Hospital site um to be demolished by iu health and then the surrounding yellow buildings are.

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The additional buildings on site that will also be demolished by the city in the near future.

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So one of the aspects of the site is that the great amount of topography um that happens and.

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That this hospital today is very much on a hill, and um we see in the future that there.

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Will probably be the need to regrade the site to some extent um to create accessibility on the new.

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Series of roads um and connections to take place through the site, so there will be some amount of.

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Cut and fill to take place, and this will be further designed as the project moves forward.

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But one of the opportunities that we mentioned in the past is second street corridor. Coming.

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Through adjacent to the site, we see this as being the sort of active community corridor and the.

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Ability to create an active edge bordering the prospect hill neighborhood today.

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And re-grading the site will be done in coordination with the improvement.

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Of existing streets today, like 2nd street, that we just showed you as well as first street, which will.

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Be happening in the coming years, along with the creation of new streets, which will really help.

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To create a new series of complete streets um to connect the prospect, hill and uh mcdoll uh garden.

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Neighborhoods and so some of those uh new streets will be an extension of fairview street connecting.

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Mcdole mcdougall gardens to building trades park um jackson street from wiley street into the site.

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We have proposed improvements for rogers street and then another new street would be shifting.

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Madison street such that it aligns with the existing madison street in prospect hill.

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Neighborhood, so these series of streets, we see as neighborhood connectors, really restitching. This.

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Sort of mega block that the hospital site is today back into the neighborhood fabric.

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In addition to the north south connections, we looked at extending a greenway from the.

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B line west terminating towards the existing hunter school today and the green light space.

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I mean we've talked about it from the beginning, and I've got gained a lot of input.

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From the public on this aspect, we see it as a space for um new public amenities.

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As well as important stormwater feature, but it will also be paired with a.

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New sort of slow traffic street, which will provide important access to each of.

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The development parcels and to the interior of the site, so we see it as being a people street.

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First or people first street pardon me um and a great new amenity for this future development.

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And by making these necessary connections with the streets and the internal greenways coming.

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Through uh we create a series of 10 well-scaled blocks for flexible development in the future.

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And you can see the notation here that these blocks are about 340 feet by.

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320 feet and are very similar to the scale of the existing prospect hill neighborhood fabric. Today.

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So this flexible framework um that we've created we see as being able to support a.

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Range of densities, as well as a range of housing types, and so, as you can see, on the key to the left,.

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Of the page, um smaller scale single family homes, um we see those as potential to be adjacent to.

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That fine grain fabric of the mcdole garden neighborhood stepping up in density, then.

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To a town hall model or fourplexes to increase the density a little bit up to.

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Low-Rise apartments and then up to more mid-rise multi-family apartments adjacent to the existing.

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Parking garage amenity as well as along that active community corridor of 2nd street, so we.

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See this as the opportunity to provide more height, as well as that mix of uses.

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So what we've come up with is sort of a very diverse and varying range of housing types.

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That could be flexibly arranged in many different ways throughout the development and uh we really.

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Reflected on the uh housing study that was done in bloomington and the need for the additional.

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I think 2 500 some units of health housing that will be needed to support the projected.

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Population growth and we worked with sb friedman marketing consultant to really um estimate how.

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Many units could this site potentially hold and, and they determined that the um the 24.

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Acres with the additional 52, so the uh 76 acres total, could support about 660 to a thousand units.

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um Ranging in affordability over the next um 10 years, and so um looking at uh sort of what we've.

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Come up with in terms of design here today, we know that this site could support upwards of 800 units.

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So uh one of the things that we heard from many residents.

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In the community, um along with the importance of housing and housing that is affordable, was.

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The importance of activation and community amenities, and not just retail within the ground.

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Floor of these buildings to really support that walkable, inclusive neighborhood that is so desired.

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um So to the left here is just uh some of the many possibilities for uses within the.

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Community- and this is a list that has been added to um throughout the community meetings and so.

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We heard a lot of good input as to potential uses during foreign three and again.

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These are just possibilities: um final uses for the site um for activating the ground floors.

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Would ultimately be part of the development proposal for each of these specific parcels.

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But some of the things that we heard were day cares both for adults and child child care.

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The idea of sort of uh many ages all existing in one place, this notion of livability um and.

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Multi-Generational living came up a variety of uses, not just restaurants, but things like shared.

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Kitchens and cafes maker spaces and shared shared workspaces, just a variety of things, but these have.

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All been documented and can be referred to um as the actual developments um come to fruition.

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And then I just have a series of illustrative views of the massing.

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So this is again from the same view where downtown is facing um or downtown. Is this.

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Way north is facing to the bottom right of the page, but just to show the sort of scale of the.

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Development and that sort of stepping up in nature from um the south to the north.

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And just kind of zooming in again to see this sort of um diverse sort of fabric within the.

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Development and the potential that exists there um today and then a view from um the south looking.

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Towards downtown um with again this nature of small fine grain, potentially single family.

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Detached homes, uh the possibility for town homes, some sort of attached model around the courtyard.

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um Stepping up to denser models like potentially four plexes or lower scale.

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Lower scale multi-family up to more mixed-use multi-family models.

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Especially surrounding the the parking garage which is such an asset for the site today,.

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And now I will pass it over to my colleague chris merritt from merrick chase to bring you through.

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um The public realm framework that was created through this process, great thanks, rachel and.

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Hello, everyone, um it's a real pleasure to be talking to you about um this real incredible.

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Opportunity um in front of you tonight, as rachel mentioned, I'm going to talk through a little bit.

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Of the public realm framework that we developed for the master plan, starting as rachel talked a.

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Little bit about with the street network, as shown in blue here, um the blue is representing existing.

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But improved streets, um and then the brown, um the primary primarily uh north south streets, are new.

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um Streets and then in the east west direction, you can see that dashed line. That's this idea.

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About this shared flush street condition that I'll talk a little bit about in more detail.

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And when we talk about streets, we're really talking about complete.

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Streets, these are streets that really put people first, they prioritize people over cars.

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Pedestrian public realm space, as well as green infrastructure, furnishings lighting.

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And space for active ground floor uses in buildings to really spill out into the street.

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And so as we look at the opportunities around the development and within the master plan, looking.

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At second street, first here, looking east with the garage on the right challenges of.

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Fast-Moving traffic, multiple turn lanes and poor pedestrian experience and safety concerns.

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For pedestrians and cyclists, and so our proposed typical street section for 2nd street the existing.

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On the left and the proposed on the right, you can see we're suggesting a bit of a road diet with.

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Two 10-foot travel lanes in either direction with parallel parking on the south side. The development.

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Side with an over 20 foot kind of streetscape section before the development line um and then.

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Along building trades park, we're introducing um a new uh 10-foot malt uh two-way bike path that.

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Would connect um the b line all the way over to um walker street, where it would connect into an.

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Existing bike path and then an enhanced building trades park edge on that side of the development.

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For first street, we know that this is a project in the works and we're aligning.

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Our vision with that project challenges here: this is right at the core building on the.

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Left lack of sidewalks or narrow, sidewalk, so safety concerns for cyclists and pedestrians.

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Proposed condition um is to road diet and the street slightly provide parallel.

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Parking on each side and then proper tree planting and sidewalk space throughout.

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Rogers street looking north similarly poor pedestrian experience and safety concerns.

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Introducing bike lanes on either side as well as improved sidewalk and streetscape planting.

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And then a typical street section for those new north south streets.

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Fairview jackson and madison a 10 foot shared traveling bikes and cars parallel.

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Parking on either side and then a tree-lined planting buffer with sidewalks on either side.

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um And so it's with that um kind of framework that we've developed this draft final master plan.

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um And so you know, we really started to think about this plan.

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um And the development opportunity here with landscape and public space first and that kind.

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Of setting the framework for development to fill in within and so throughout, the greenway and at.

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Active building corners and intersections we're introducing a series of public plazas.

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um And then linking that together is this notion of these wetland gardens that came about through.

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A public process and kind of weaving the whole development together through a series of connected.

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Green spaces that bring building trades park through this new, east-west greenway to the b-line.

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um And that also functions for storm water, um so the the aim of the master plan is.

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Really to collect and retain all the storm water on site, and so that's done through a.

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Series of these wetland gardens as well as bioswales along the edges of the streetscape.

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And so just to show you a little bit an enlargement of that east-west greenway flush.

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Street condition, starting on the west, where fairview street would connect building trades.

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Park um down through an improved intersection to the highest point in the development that we've.

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Suggested a community overlooked could be there looking out over water moving through a series of.

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Wetland gardens to a more community in a stage area at rogers street again moving through a.

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Wetland garden over boardwalks and planting and water feature areas through a plaza, framed by a.

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Tree grove and lawn and then a new kind of public plaza, an expanded gateway at the bee line itself.

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And just some character images of each of those spaces, so this is.

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You know what some of those public plazas could look like. This is really the social heart.

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And hub of the development um and then in between those you have these expanded.

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Gardens where it's a little more lush and intimately human scaled.

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Following that, these storm water features that could either be more kind of natural.

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Or a little bit more designed water feature like.

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um The courtyard spaces a little more amenity space, they could have.

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Play elements spaces to gather um potentially grow your own food.

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And then this shared street a really um you know important element of this plan.

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A space where cars, pedestrians, um cyclists, um you know- really share the street and.

F

You know this could be used for cars to access um on a day-to-day basis, but it's really meant to be.

F

A kind of slow speed condition where pedestrians can feel kind of safe to cross the street, and you.

F

Could actually close the street for events, and so this is an example of what that could look like.

F

Kind of every day, day to day condition, so this is as if you were hovering right above this street.

F

In the greenway kind of looking east, so you're seeing jackson, street and rogers street.

F

Coming through there, so you see this flush street condition with bollards and lighting.

F

And street trees on either side and then these wetland gardens that kind of bring you through.

F

The greenway and you see that mixing of cars and cyclists and pedestrians across the space and.

F

Then you know you have this opportunity to close that street and really activate it with community.

F

Programming, bringing kind of festivals and and art and stages and performances into the greenway.

F

So I'll hand it over to doug to talk a little bit about some ideas for implementation.

G

Thanks a lot chris, I I think, as you can see, from each of our public meetings and.

G

Definitely from our last public forum, we've tried very hard to bring these ideas into focus.

G

And to identify the recommendation and tools to deliver the vision and, as mick mentioned earlier,.

G

This diagram highlights how portions of the site will be delivered in the condition in which they.

G

Will be provided back to the city, so in green is the property of the hospital proper that.

G

The buildings would be demolished and cleaned per the agreement. The sites in yellow would.

G

Be transferred back to the city as is, and it's those sites that is mentioned earlier.

G

Could perhaps happen as quickly as uh sometime later next year, 2021 next slide throughout.

G

This process, though, we've been talking about principles, we've been emphasizing the importance.

G

Of connectivity, but also the importance of the public realm, as chris just demonstrated.

G

And this framework that you see on screen also provides the flexibility for the city.

G

And the community in to develop this site over many different phases. But to allow.

G

Flexibility to adapt to changes in the market or other conditions that may come to light.

G

In the future, and so across these 10 parcels, not only does it give you a series of options in how.

G

To begin or to look at early phase development, but it is also an intentional way to provide diversity.

G

Between not only the scale and type of housing or mixed use, product that would be provided.

G

But also to engage, perhaps multiple developers and multiple architects, so you create that richness.

G

That is seen throughout the best parts of the bloomington neighborhoods in and around the site.

G

We've also been with the city looking at initial set of zoning recommendations.

G

That reflect different scales of mixed use, as well as residential development.

G

That is intentionally done in a way to transition to the surrounding areas, but also to capitalize.

G

Many of the important assets in and around the site next slide.

G

And this master plan framework also considers ways to incrementally deliver parcels, as I mentioned.

G

Before this, flexibility uh within the plan allows us to look at some of the more immediate parcels.

G

Perhaps on the east, as well as what we're calling on the west there on first street.

G

As ways to build off existing assets, whether it's off of the b line and the second street morton.

G

Street connections that are already in place or the available infrastructure of first street.

G

On parcel one west, this also speaks to the availability of that land.

G

So that we can create a sense of place and start to build this community on day, one.

G

Next but we've considered those improvements in those early phases to also set up future phases.

G

And future investments that would extend to the balance of the site. Perhaps some of the larger.

G

Development opportunities that exist along second street on either side of the existing.

G

Parking garage, but also could be delivered in smaller phases again to support that range of.

G

Diversity, working with a host of developers and architects in delivering this vision. Next.

G

And throughout this process, we've been tracking, not only the development potential.

G

As rachel highlighted or as chris mentioned in his presentation, the improvements to the public realm.

G

But also the enabling projects that will support both the early phases as well as.

G

Later phases of the project, so that this can be done in a balanced and coordinated way,.

G

Providing at this stage not only flexibility but the beginning outlines of a roadmap for the.

G

City to consider scenarios and options on how to develop the site over multiple phases. Next,.

G

So perhaps to conclude and if I can just have another minute or two.

G

I I'd want to sort of summarize one of the things that came out very early in our conversations and.

G

Walks around the site and it's to define what is rachel can go back it's to define what is unique.

G

About bloomington, but also the great potential this site provides and.

G

Many of you and and the mayor himself spoke about reflecting the values of bloomington.

G

And so we've taken a first pass at some artists, uh illustrations of what that may be.

G

And so we've got three views um that start to communicate how these values can be reflected.

G

In the development of this very important site- and so as you can see here, this is a view.

G

From the bee line, almost standing in the parking lot outside the grocery.

G

Store looking west and you can see the hospital and the parking garage just in the background.

G

Over that tree line, if you go to the next slide rachel, this is an early impression.

G

Of how the greenway could come out and meet the bee line so that you're welcome and greeted into.

G

This community chris had mentioned the idea of a plaza that could be used for a number of.

G

Events and casual activities, but also that it sets up an approach to the ground floor of these.

G

Buildings perhaps there's a coffee shop or, as rachel mentioned, other community uses located in.

G

The ground floor of these buildings that it's, not all retail, but they contribute to the vibrancy.

G

Of this place and the diversity of the people and communities that are welcomed into the site, next.

G

Similarly, we've talked about the plan and the principles really reflect a sense of transition.

G

uh To the surrounding areas and that it's been tailored, the zoning.

G

The recommendations have really been tailored to make those transitions as seamless as possible.

G

And so this is a view on first street looking up the hill, you can see fairview street right where.

G

That crossing sign jets out over the street itself. If you go to the next slide, rachel.

G

That perhaps, as an early phase, when we talked about phase one west,.

G

We can look at developing a series of single family lots, perhaps, as we move.

G

Further east, they can be increased in density to duplexes or, as you can see, on the other side of.

G

The street even other types of multi-family and mixed-use development, and it's this diversity.

G

Between parcels that really contributes to what we think is incredible and unique opportunity given.

G

The scale of the site, but also the unique edges and transitions to the surrounding neighborhoods.

G

Next and perhaps the last view will share, is along 2nd street looking back at you're all familiar.

G

With the parking garage- and this is a view from building trades park, but what happens when we.

G

Bring streets through so they meet second street and we bring the connections from the dole gardens.

G

uh Up to uh this part of the site, and what happens when we look at adding new buildings and density.

G

If you go to the next slide, we've done this with very careful consideration of scale, but also.

G

Within these blocks, we look to create a greater variation in both the height and the massing.

G

But also the quality of the architecture, so that this speaks to the values of design, but also the.

G

Attitudes about green sustainability and really a higher quality of life. That's welcome and open to.

G

Everyone, and so perhaps on that I can turn it back over to mick in the city for some closing remarks.

D

Thank you doug, and I hope that the last slide you saw there there were the the ones.

D

That, hopefully inspire you about the process and again remember these are not the architecturally.

D

Designed buildings that will be on the site, rather, what might be potentially conceivable.

D

Over time as the site develops out, it's really important to us that, as the process continues, our.

D

Consultant will continue to get cost estimates for the public infrastructure, the public realm, as they.

D

Call it and and that will update the master plan and some other elements that they'll be working on.

D

Over the course of the next month, but we really need to hear from the city residents what you.

D

Think about this plan and we want you to go to bloomingtonhospitalsite.com and fill out.

D

The google form take your time to look at the presentation and I scroll through these slides.

D

Again at your time, convenience and provide us those comments by november 29th and remember.

D

Our ultimate goal as a community and what this plan should represent, is an adaptable, flexible.

D

Master plan that guides the development of the site allowing for the unknowns of our world, which.

D

We're all experiencing right now that ultimately reacts to market conditions over the course of.

D

This multi-year multi-phase development of the site- and we expect this to be at least a 10-year.

D

Project, if not longer than that note too, that any development plans proposed by the public or by the.

D

Private sector in the future will require review by city staff by the redevelopment commission.

D

And the plan commission, and possibly the city council, depending on the nature of the proposal.

D

Proposals reviewed by those commissions or council obviously have public input.

D

Opportunities as part of the review process, so we don't want you to think that what you see today is.

D

The last time you get to to weigh in as the site develops you'll get to weigh in all, along as each.

D

Of those projects comes forward in the future, we're looking forward to the opportunity with.

D

Continued input from the community to transform this site into a new use for the next hundred.

D

Years and think about the opportunity that we all have at this moment in time, the snapshot.

D

That we have been fortunate enough to be given to repurpose this site. I want to thank personally.

D

The hospital reuse committee members for their involvement, as as senator simpson said, for some.

D

Of them it's been more than six years already and as I teased her earlier and the rest of the.

D

Committee you're not done yet you'll still be involved in the future site development.

D

As well as all of you from the public that have taken your time to comment and will continue.

D

We know to give us input on the site so with that I'll turn it over to president vollen and.

D

Our team is here ready to answer any questions that the city council may have.

A

Thank you, mr deputy mayor and everyone who presented uh it's a excellent and very.

A

Interesting presentation and it's obvious that an awful lot of work has gone into it.

A

uh We are about five minutes over the allotted time for the presentation, so that's about five.

A

Minutes less we'll have for questions, so I really want to have a hard stop on q, a at uh 8 10.

A

Again, just to reiterate uh this is uh there will be no public comment tonight and there's no vote.

A

On this tonight, uh this is uh a draft presentation and uh public meeting uh to.

A

To get some feedback from council uh and, as the deputy mayor said, we're looking at a deadline for.

A

Any comments from any member of the public uh through the website by november 29th.

A

With that I'd like to open the floor to questions from council members, I see councilman baralo.

H

Thank you for a wonderful presentation, um so the range of housing types.

H

Implies a couple things, but one of them implies a a range of income and.

H

What were the discussions about? Accommodating a range of income.

H

And and what is the range of income that that one would expect residents of this development to.

H

uh To have I'll I'll start the to try to answer that councilmember allah, then I'll. Let our team.

D

Jump in as well, I know that during the discussion and in the principles- and this dates all the way.

D

Back to the uli process in 2018, our community has clearly said we need affordable and workforce.

D

Housing types in here so you'll you'll see that reflected now, it's impossible to tell you.

D

The exact price point of any of the product that might develop that will obviously be coming.

D

As development comes forward, as I know, the council members are aware.

D

The city is going to own the property and owning the property means we have control over. What.

D

Is developed on the site, which is great, and it also provides us with some unique opportunities.

D

To provide incentives, where appropriate for the kind of housing product that we'd like to see.

D

So with that in mind, you'll see the spectrum of housing options here from possibly plexes.

D

Multi-Family to single family ownership- and I don't I couldn't tell you the square.

D

Foot uh of each of those options, yet that's where the market conditions and developers will have to.

D

Come in and work with us to make that work, we clearly understand that our market requires.

D

Housing product under 250 000 that there's not near enough of that and I'm picking that number.

D

Kind of out of the blue, I'm not suggesting that is the affordable ceiling at all. I'm.

D

Just saying we know that there's a a lack of housing in the under 250 000 dollar range for.

D

Home ownership in this community, so I hope that it's a wide array of those things different types.

D

Between home ownership and plexus and multi-family rental options uh and all those varieties, we hope.

D

Are part of what the market conditions will allow us to build and there is possibility uh one of the.

D

Things we're discussing as the core decision is still unknown is, is that a potential site.

D

For and not just there, but on the site generally, there there's been some positive market driven.

D

Discussion about that being a potential site for light tech credits and tax credits for affordable.

D

Housing, so just already the market is responding and suggesting there might be that opportunity.

D

On the site and I'll, let our team jump in if they have any more feedback than what I just offered.

G

I think that that probably covers it mick. I I think, for the the council.

G

uh We did have a development advisor on our team, as well as an economist that.

G

Looked at a lot of those uh metrics that would be considered and brought into conversations with any.

G

Eventual developer of a parcel or portions of the site so that those expectations would be clarified.

G

At the beginning of any conversations about vertical development and delivery of any parcel.

A

Mrallo does that satisfy your question.

H

Yes, it does thanks. Thank you. I see councilmember rosenberger and then comfortable smith.

I

Thank you and thank you for that presentation. I was very impressive and thorough.

I

I definitely got excited with some of those.

I

Renditions- oh no just to follow up on the housing question. I would say some of those images were.

I

um Like here we have multi-family over here we have single family. You know duplexes, on this block.

I

I understand the idea of scale and right sort of having things build in a certain direction, but I.

I

I also really like the idea of like what our current neighborhoods have in this walkable area.

I

That is a single family home next to an apartment, building with eight units next to a single family.

I

Next to a duplex, so can you speak a little bit to that thought of really like having the diversity.

I

Of housing stock in the neighborhood, but having every block very um diverse in its own right, I.

I

Would say versus like the scale that you're trying to make sort of from like the inside out? I guess.

D

You might want to pop up one of the massing um slides for this part of the conversation doug.

D

Why don't you jump in first and then I'll I'll, add a comment sure so a couple of things: uh the.

G

First is that I think the eventual rezoning of the site will allow that flexibility for greater.

G

Diver diversity within each parcel, um because that just sets some guideposts to the zoning. But does.

G

Not specify specific uh types, so these could be combined in different ways within each parcel.

G

One of the things I think we found very early with this smaller framework of.

G

Development blocks, which was strongly encouraged by many in the community to emphasize walkability.

G

And activation on the streets and things of this sort, this is a good one rachel. Thank you.

G

Is that we also tested how you deal with parking, and I don't want to imply that parking drives.

G

These conversations, but in the early phases it is something that needs to be considered.

G

So that we don't create additional impacts within the surrounding areas and so what we.

G

Found though, and maybe to answer, the question is that you can see the parcels in the darker.

G

Purple on second street being higher density and when we say 50 to 80 dwelling units per acre.

G

That's an average of whether it's studio, one bedroom up to three bedroom, but you know up to.

G

80 dwelling units per acre is pretty good and that parking can be handled within those blocks.

G

So you can see the scale of those blocks with let's say one: that's closer to first street.

G

That we could look at increased density on some of those blocks. We could also look at stepping.

G

Down on some of the blocks on second street- and I think this next level of specificity around the.

G

Development proposals on each site is enabled by the zoning, but perhaps can be further clarified.

G

In conversations with developers to create as much diversity within the blocks as possible,.

D

Well, doug you answered that a lot better than I would have, but I would just add that if.

D

This slides a perfect representation of if we're really trying to capture as much density and.

D

Housing product on the side, as we can council member rosenberger, it's a little difficult to.

D

Have a lot of off and on single family here duplex there and we we begin to lose the ability to have.

D

More housing product on the site, so, while it's a you'll see again, I wanted to point out on the side.

D

By mcdole gardens that there is most likely, where you'll see the kind of gradual feathering into the.

D

Neighborhood of the kind of product that fits most closely with, what's already in the neighborhood.

D

But but certainly the market may suggest that there are opportunities to spread that housing.

D

Product type out in other locations on the site, this was just done to try to get as many units.

D

In the most likely place where they should go density wise to address our housing shortage.

I

Thank you. Thank you, council for piedmont, smith,.

J

Yeah I wanted to talk about financing, um so I heard um a lot of talk about. You know.

J

Infrastructure changes even on our existing streets first and second street, are going to be.

J

Transformed and that all costs a lot of money, so I wonder how you know before we even get somebody.

J

Who's going to build the housing, how are we going to pay for all of the infrastructure changes.

D

So those are some of the elements that uh a component of our master planning team that.

D

You not see here tonight, although I think one of the engineers is on the call and I'm not putting.

D

You on the spot, karen, so don't worry, but they are still amassing the cost of the master plan.

D

For us, so that we can start to process that as a group before the master plan is finalized, it is.

D

Important to note that first street, for example, is already an mpo funded project, so you can kind of.

D

Subtract that one out of the total cost, because it is funded by one of the the methods the city uses.

D

To improve its streets as it is, it's possible others could be funded in the future. That way.

D

Don't forget that the tax increment that we will gain from turning this site from its current.

D

Use which is non-tax and on tax group as a hospital.

D

That many of the development that will occur here over time will.

D

Will bring increment into the district and is something we can look at and consider that as.

D

Part of the way, we'll return, some of the cost of the investments that'll be necessary to be made.

D

And also it's important to note that we may have to decide whether the city funds, some or all of.

D

That infrastructure or if the developers have to do that as part of the build out over time.

D

Since this is a multi-phase project, we'll have more information about the cost elements of that.

D

When the master plan is finalized as part of the report, that goes along with the master plan.

J

And if I may just follow up so when is the master plan to be finalized with the financials as well.

D

I will turn over to doug to tell me what he thinks, based on the november 29th feedback, that we hope.

D

To get from the community and from the counselors and then what time you need to turn around to doug.

G

Well, our our hope, as was mentioned, we've already started that assessment and so given.

G

The feedback and probably further coordination with the city. We should be able to have that.

G

uh By the end of the year, I believe that was the initial intent so that it could go.

G

To both the redevelopment commission, as well as back to this council for their approval,.

D

I would just say that it does go back to redevelopment commission as the final entity that.

D

um Is the entity that owns a site as as council member volun's already looking at me, like, I said.

D

I thought you'd have to approve this plan and you don't have to approve the plan. Council members.

D

What, if we want to well, you can endorse the plan. We would love that uh we'll talk uh council.

A

Republic smith, so we'll have more financial information uh before the end of the year.

J

Is that what I'm hearing? Okay? Yes! Thank you. Thank you. Further questions from council members.

A

Councilman briscamboluri.

A

K

I think I would have that down by now. Thank you for the presentation. This is all.

K

Really really exciting um deputy mayor renison, you mentioned really briefly um possible eligibility.

K

For tax credits for affordable housing in that area, can you say more about that and how that.

K

Might work how that's unfold? Well, as as we were working with sb friedman and alex crowley's on.

D

This call, I think he can jump in too. We we've just said. Well, you know, as as we're.

D

Debating the merits of the core building- and there are many- and there are some drawbacks.

D

To keeping it as well and we're trying to flesh all those out, we wanted to see what the market.

D

Development market thought about the building, structurally uh repurposing it and so forth, and so.

D

It was actually through conversations with some folks that alex has had tour the building where.

D

They suggested it, it was possible that that could be a way to fund the project. If that building were.

D

To be kept, so that's really primarily where that conversation has been council. Member scandalory.

D

And alex, if you have anything else, you want to add to amplify that feel free to jump in.

L

Yeah there was enthusiasm about the core building itself and then generally.

L

um You know, I think the the city has become aware of the fact that affordable housing.

L

Often uh needs local support to be able to be successful, and that can come in the form of a.

L

Variety of different uh subsidies, so that could be land value. For example, um it can be tax abatement.

L

The other forms of contributions, so I think, depending on the mix that we ultimately want.

L

To deliver when it comes to affordable housing, particularly at the lower uh ranges of income.

L

Then then, we'll have to evaluate those proposals as they come in.

L

To determine what is the appropriate amount of local funding to support them.

K

That's helpful, thank you uh and that actually feeds into my next couple questions, but um can.

K

You say more about the current condition of the admin building and the parking garage. uh I.

K

I'm not sure who made the comment that this may be like a 10-year build out.

K

And I'm wondering what kind of condition they're in what the life expectancy might be.

K

Could you speak to that? Certainly uh I can start that discussion and team members you can jump in. I.

D

We had an assessment done of the parking structure which we've already determined, is got a long.

D

Enough life to keep it and use it for its lifespan, it's at least 20 plus years of life left in.

D

That structure and that's all contingent on how you take care of it right so.

D

We've been very thoughtful about our conversations with iu health and they're continuing to take care.

D

Of the structure, even though they're going to depart the site, so we feel confident.

D

That it's been managed well and it will get every bit of the minimum amount of those years. That.

D

Engineers have told us will be in it on the core admin building that one's a little different. uh It.

D

Is it is uh actually not occupied at the moment? It is obviously been it's one of the older structures.

D

On the site and we're still in a sense, we're still assessing some of the challenges of an older.

D

Structure that might have asbestos in it, which it does have some but we're just trying to find out.

D

What the potential ramifications of that are when you start start tearing it up.

D

To remodel or reconfigure how it's laid out, if that's in fact, how its best uses in the future.

D

And it also is attached to the newer part of the hospital, the 60s edition, in a way that nobody.

D

Has blueprints and can quite understand, what's going to happen when they start to tear down.

D

The big structure what's going to be behind the curtain, so you know we're still talking through.

D

All those elements and the condition of the admin building is not as good as not not necessarily bad.

D

Everywhere but it has hvac issues and just an older structure in general, so those are still.

D

The reasons why I couldn't tell you today what our recommendation will be on core, because we're still.

D

Core administration building, because we're still going through all those steps to make sure we have.

D

As much information as we can before, we make a recommendation to the redevelopment commission.

K

That's helpful, thank you and and to echo senator simpson and mayor.

K

Hamilton, thank you to everyone who worked on this. um It's very exciting, so thanks.

A

Thank you further questions from my colleagues council member smith. Well, thank you.

M

Thank you for the presentation. It was great. Very exciting project looks fantastic, so that leads.

M

Me to my question: is it's it's a wonderful visioning and for me on the city council.

M

um It's a wonderful visioning and the controls we have on, and this may be a question that.

M

Mick responds to as well for us to get it to look beautiful like it has been um envisioned.

M

In the presentation, how do we, how do we do that as a city and how does that? How will that happen.

D

Well, we'll get to we'll get the true cost of making it as beautiful and inspiring. As you.

D

Just saw and then we'll have to go, look at our sources right so that the one logical place to do.

D

Redevelopment is the redevelopment commission and it has a limited amount of funds, but this this is.

D

A site, as I mentioned earlier, that will actually create increment financing for itself over time as.

D

It builds out privately parts of it will be private right, so that'll be some part of it.

D

We're fortunate enough to use some mpo money for one street. We can try to program that in there are.

D

Grants for some of these opportunities and then we're going to rely on our private sector partners.

D

To possibly build out some of these elements again, we're not going to do a master developed.

D

All at once, plop down all these structures, all in one fell swoop. It's going to happen right.

M

Organically over time, so I think councilmember smith. The answer is it's going to be multitudes.

D

Of different mechanisms that we're going to have to use controlling the land means we're.

D

Going to either lease it or sell it, I think we're predisposed to trying to keep the land if we can.

D

There's a cost to that right, but we can also get some roi by leasing the land out and have.

D

Some potential revenue from the least side of it too, so we're going to look at all those avenues.

D

And we're going to look for a partner to help us understand it better. As we start.

D

To work through that, but, first and foremost we're waiting for the master plan to give.

D

Us those basic cost elements that will inform us about what we need to do next.

M

In the in the people that would be engaged to help us build it, our partners in the private sector.

M

Or our own initiatives, those those uh say like the plot, a plaza down the middle that looks beautiful.

M

It would be, it would be the planning department and the city that would then.

M

Look to make it fit that vision. Do I is that how I understand it so again, our best control over this.

D

It's very unusual: the city doesn't typically own land. We usually are responding to some developer.

D

Who's bought land and then comes to the plan, staff and commission and says we'd like to build this.

D

On there, and then we kind of have to live with the fact that the planner I'm sorry the developer, owns.

D

The property here, it's like the city, has a vision. Here's the vision. If you build the vision, you're.

D

Going to get approval right, because this is what we want to see on our land. I say hours, our land.

D

All of us right so if we agree that this is the right vision for the site, the right master plan.

D

Then we can kind of negotiate with those who want to build what we want to see and if we don't like.

D

What we see we, don't we don't have to let them build. I think that's the most unusual part of.

D

This property, I would say, is that the city will control what happens here, and so, therefore, we.

D

Can hold out if we want to, we can create whatever, whatever incentives we want to to see what we want.

D

Built here, thank you. Thank you for going over that. I hope that answered your question. It did thank.

M

You very much mick I'll just follow up on that really quickly uh for council member smith, um so.

E

Part of our uh task here is also to develop a set of guidelines. um Now these aren't something that.

E

They're not voted on or anything as nick mentioned, but they are specific to.

E

The public realm, and specifically the greenway, plaza that you're mentioning um and sort of the.

E

Different elements and aspects of it that we feel are appropriate to kind of make sure that they.

E

Fulfill that vision, um and so that will be handed off to the city, then to help guide the future.

E

Development that takes place so hopefully it helps it along a little bit more and becoming a reality.

M

Well, thank you, yeah, it's a beautiful vision and uh I appreciate thank you for going over that for me.

A

Thank you further questions from members, councilmember sandberg and then councilmember sims.

N

Thank you. um I too am very excited to see this coming along to help us with our housing gap.

N

Issues I do want to follow up a little bit to council member smith's question.

N

If this is basically city driven because we're the owners of this of this land that we now.

N

Have the opportunity to develop? Is it possible that our values could incentivize more the.

N

Affordability of anything built here again, our our contribution to anyone coming along to develop.

N

Affordable housing would be the offer of the land which would make their their uh development a lot.

N

More uh inexpensive, but uh with respect to the private partnerships I mean, aren't they gonna be.

N

More invested in market rate uh developments and so to what extent have you thought about, or I'm.

N

This is maybe a question that you know will be part of the input from the public. Could we have.

N

Some assurance that a lot of this is going to be developed for truly affordable, not just workforce.

N

But truly affordable housing because it is our opportunity to do that and set the tone for that.

N

And perhaps have the incentives for the developers willing to do that for exchange for the free land.

D

I'll start and others jump in. um I do certainly think we've heard loud and.

D

Clear from our community the need to have uh more housing generally or affordable workforce housing.

D

Specifically- and I think we've also heard- but we don't want it to be a monoculture right, we.

D

Don't want every this is not a project where it's intended to be only affordable, housing.

D

And nothing else, it needs to have a combination and the market's going to dictate some of that.

D

The right ratio is going to be driven by what development partner can come in and make it work.

D

Financially and how much does the city incentivize that to make sure we get what we want and what we.

D

Want is more affordable, housing product, but we also you know this. Is this this look and.

D

That you all like this vision, uh it's probably not gonna, be cheap, I'm pretty sure and that's.

D

Okay, look at this site in relation to our downtown and I always like to frame things in the decades.

D

Ahead that we can't envision and and that we won't possibly know what all is going to happen,.

D

But it's possible: that's that is our downtown in 50 years. That'll feel like our downtown. We.

D

Have to be mindful of all these other things, while we're doing this. Nonetheless, it has.

D

Clearly been a principle of this development to make sure there's the appropriate amount and if.

D

You ask me a percentage what is appropriate. I couldn't tell you today, because the market.

D

Conditions are going to certainly drive some of that. Others want to comment for our team.

L

Mick, if I can jump in, I think councilmember sandberg. I think one of the advantages of.

L

Truly affordable, low-income housing, tax credit development is that it allows us.

L

To leverage local investments against uh federal and state uh funding, right and- and I think, we've.

L

Done that reasonably well in the past, so it does allow us to spread our money and our our resources.

L

Further than we might be able to do, if we just went at it alone, which is good, but of course.

L

It comes with a cost, and so there's going to be a limit to the amount that we can ultimately do.

L

We just have to balance that out over time.

N

All right, thank you. Thank you. Councilwoman sims.

O

Thank you. I too thank everyone for the presentation. I know there's a lot of work.

O

Involved and you'll probably have this memorized that can do it all by road. By now, the presentation.

O

But my question has to do with. um I think one of the benefits would be increased. Housing density.

O

Which is the plan and division, but I don't recall, maybe I missed it hearing very much about.

O

Public transportation infrastructure or how are we going to coordinate or accommodate.

O

With what we have existing so can someone speak on that, or has there been any thoughts.

O

With regard to public transportation amenities with this project, well, maybe I could start.

G

One of the benefits of having this connected street grid is. It allows us to do two things.

G

The first is to look at the optimal alignment of any existing transit lines.

G

Or where additional transit service would have the most benefit to those within walking distance.

G

To said stations or bus stops or other modes, the other thing it allows us to do.

G

Is to I'd say phase but to align those transit improvements as the sites developed over time. So.

G

I think it gives the city a lot of opportunities to optimize those transit investments.

G

To support the ongoing development over time, but also in a way that the street grid.

G

Actually creates connections to a broader segment of the community to access transit.

G

Whether it's by bicycle or by short distances of walking safely along new and improved streets.

O

Okay, thank you. Thank you very much more works required, though councilman sims.

A

uh Councilmember flaherty: do you have any questions.

I

Not at this time, thanks thanks all right I'll take a crack here. Could you put the slides back.

A

Up I've got uh questions that uh involve the slides, starting with slide 15., um I'm glad to.

A

Hear that the core building is still under consideration, but I was also curious about.

A

um There's a half dozen houses on um uh second street uh between uh the b.

A

Line and rogers uh are those in such poor condition that they can't be rehabbed or moved.

D

Those um those are the properties leased to the the new hope.

D

Family center and they are in the process of master planning, a new site. They are planning.

D

On moving and uh the the I've been in several houses, emily pike was nice enough to to give us.

D

A tour of the site last summer when before kobet- and they definitely are dated and.

D

I wouldn't I think anything is remodelable, steve uh council, member of owen and and certainly could.

D

Be but it would severely limit the ability to have density on the site if we were to leave them there.

D

And as it turns out, new hope is moving to a new site uh in a couple of years. Anyway, I.

A

Mean you know, could the houses be moved, haven't looked into that because they'd be affordable.

A

Too, even if they need some rehabbing yeah, I haven't looked into that yet okay that'd be.

A

Interesting to look into uh slide 20 if you can go forward a few slides, I was curious as to why.

A

Maybe there couldn't be a little bit more connectivity if you can go forward five slides.

A

There you go so I mean I, I saw maple street going around hunter school and I wondered why jackson.

A

Street couldn't go past the parking garage to the side of building trades park. I mean.

A

More connectivity is better couldn't that.

A

That also wrap around if it would be a less of a wraparound than maple street, is.

G

So what are your thoughts on that? I? I can take it past that, because we had looked at that quite.

G

Closely um from the the right end of the arrow on jackson, street uh right by the garage is.

G

Close to the high point of the site and the grade difference between that point and second street.

G

um Would create a very steep uh section of a continued jackson street out to second, where.

G

It probably wouldn't be accessible on sidewalk for pedestrians, it'd be over five percent.

G

So that introduces some challenges as pedestrian connections. We could probably do it from a vehicle.

G

Standpoint but again, the connections uh from second street into the parking garage there are.

G

Also beneficial so that we don't create additional curb cuts or turn-ins from fairview street. So.

G

I guess the the point is: it could have further consideration in the eventual development of that.

G

Block but it was a bit of a challenge vertically making the connection okay, so it wasn't uh the.

A

Building massing driving the the grid, it was the terrain driving the the way the grid. Okay, uh if.

A

We go to slide 31. um Could the uh the bike lanes on? Could there not well? Actually, this would be.

A

uh The north side of 2nd street um you had the bike lane the protected bike.

A

Lane on the north side of the street and the parking on the south side.

A

There we go yeah, uh why not reverse them? Why not have the protected bike lane on the south.

A

Side of the street, like the seven line, uh is going to be and have parking on the north side.

A

I mean if, if uh the is this considered, just like through traffic for bicyclists or because it's.

A

Going to be harder for them to cross the street um and I'd rather make it easier for bicyclists.

A

In this case, is there any terrain issue here, um so I can take this question so.

E

The the terrain wasn't so much the issue here um and you can see in the foreground actually.

E

Of the section on the right we're proposing an enhanced uh sort of plaza-like connection across.

E

Second street, um so we find that that could be an entrance really to this bikeway and we we.

E

Had considered the bikeway actually along the south side of the street, but when we.

E

Really looked at the sort of broader cycle network within bloomington, we saw that already.

E

To the west side, as you get to twin uh lakes, uh recreational complex that there is already some.

E

uh Multi-Purpose trail on the north side of the street, and we felt that this it would be easiest.

E

For cyclists to link up to that existing bikeway um by being on the north side of the street, so it.

E

Is something that we considered, and it could be also something that I mean either side could be.

E

Considered in the future as well, but ultimately we decided to to tie into the broader network.

E

The north seemed like a better recommendation and then just enhancing the safety and.

E

The ease of crossing second street to be able to get to that asset was the kind of move we wanted.

E

To make great, thank you, my last question would be on slide 52. The development framework slide.

A

Although this is just more of a visual aid than anything else, but um the.

A

um I guess maybe this slide is what triggered this thought, although I.

A

Don't think it's related to the slide, but um to what extent have you considered uh condominiums.

A

As in other words, one of the biggest problems with affordability is not, everybody can afford.

A

A house on a plot of land: they just want to buy an apartment when it comes to affordable housing.

A

To what extent has that been considered the idea that people can buy their own apartment as opposed.

A

To only being able to rent apartments, how does that play into uh consideration of these projects?.

G

Well, maybe if I can respond first, but then you know, I think part of your question is how do you.

G

Enforce that uh moving forward with developers that will be doing the vertical development on.

G

Each site, um clearly, within any of these scenarios, those options are available. I think you'll be.

G

Determined by the market as much as uh input from the city and so how the city can provide.

G

Guidance to sort of those larger aspirations um and again maybe it's tied to other. I don't want to.

G

Say, policies but sort of other materials that are provided as part of the engagement with developers.

A

Okay, um thank you. Are there any last minute questions.

A

We've got about five minutes left for follow-ups.

A

Anybody else: okay, well uh cosmo, rallo,.

H

Since we have a minute too, uh I just wondered about the water feature: that's flowing through.

H

This site is that is that something that is already existing or is this anticipated.

H

Stormwater from the entire site, but is it, is there already, I suppose.

H

Is it piped underground right now? Is that what's happening.

F

Is not something that currently exists, but it is designed to accommodate um the majority of the.

F

Storm water collection on site um and um it's it's used as bio retention um and and and kind of the.

F

Grading works in such a way that um the stormwater would be all guided to that. um That system.

H

Well, it looks to be well the appearance of this rendering is that it is a permanent feature. I mean.

H

The water that is is that true, there would be times that it would be dry. um This would be in.

F

A wet condition so in a dry condition it would, you would kind of read it. As um you know, a swailed.

F

uh Kind of landscape bed with native plants.

H

Okay, so it would be intermittently wet, yeah gotcha. Thank you.

A

Passover, pivot smith. This would be the last question I think yeah. I just want to ask um what.

J

Part of the process comes next, so if we get the the master plan by the end of.

J

The year with all the recommendations and the drawings etc. What happens after that.

D

Yeah, that's that's a very uh good question: councilmember, piedmont! Smith! I I think because the.

D

Hospital will be turning over parcels of property in phases to us and we don't have the answer to.

D

When the phases will start to happen, we just know the main site won't happen until they completely.

D

Remediate the site which we don't think will get a clean remediated available site for.

D

Development on the main parcel until 2023, but those ancillary parcels could come over the.

D

Course of next year and the year after so when there's a big enough amassed space that we can.

D

Market, we think, what's likely, is that first phase that doug pointed out on the east side along the b.

D

Line is most likely the first transferable parcels as well from our initial conversations.

D

With iu health and that we could start to build out some of the public infrastructure.

D

That, then, creates the impetus for private sector investment and then again follow what comes next.

D

Is that the western side closer to mcdonald gardens? Because that's also what we understand.

D

Iu health is starting to vacate and won't need as long as they will need the main hospital site.

D

So, as those parcels become more known when the transfers occur, we'll be able to start laying.

D

Out a phasing in approach to what development will occur and then the city will need to start.

D

Hiring through its redevelopment commission, I think most likely is the starting point.

D

Architects and engineers to design the roads. The first phase of road development.

D

And greenway development and articulate where those funds are going to come from.

D

And how long will that timeline take to build that out and also go out and look for development.

D

Partners, which is why we've been trying to get this master plan done early. It gives us.

D

The chance to go out and sort of shop, the vision with the market to see where there's interest so.

D

Different sort of parallel tracks will define the exact steps, but that's kind.

D

Of how I see it playing out in the coming six months to a year after we get the master plan.

D

As a document, we can start to share and use the guidelines from the plan to drive the next steps.

D

Anybody else want to offer anything else. You think, as next steps from your perspective.

D

They don't want to overrule me, but so that they're going to go with what I said, I think so is there.

J

An owner's representative going to be involved soon. You know we as, as you are well aware, we.

D

Worked very hard to try to lock down an owner's representative owner's representative spent quite.

D

A bit of time talking to one particular, honest representative, at the end of the day, uh we agreed.

D

To um to break up in a fashion that we both agreed, it was a square peg and a round hole their their.

D

Methodology for going forward and did not match hours and vice versa, and we parted in amicable.

D

Terms and quite and quite frankly that that owner's rep is a developer and is interested in.

D

uh Developing on the site, regardless uh whether they were involved as the owner's rep or not.

D

So we are currently looking at other methods. We might be able to use. We've learned a lot.

D

In this process, I personally feel that way. I think our team would articulate that as well.

D

And there may be a different model and we'll be working with the hospital reuse committee and.

D

Co-Chair senator simpson and the mayor, of course, and the whole hrc to help guide us on that next.

D

Step too, so that's another parallel track is to decide what do we do now that we don't have an.

D

Owner's rep identified, but we still know we need to fill that void with something so we're talking.

D

About that, in the coming weeks before the end of the year, we'll be talking to the hrc about that.

J

Thank you and with that I want to thank everyone who has presented tonight.

A

Especially uh co-chair senator simpson and deputy mayor nyson and the team from som.

A

Thank you for a very interesting presentation. um We look forward to the completion of it.

A

I also predict at some time in the next decade, word to the wise prospect, hill and dole gardens.

A

Are neighborhood parking zones coming your way just fyi anyway? Thank you and with that we're.

A

Going to move on to the next item on council agenda appointments to boards and commissions.