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A
Good
morning,
everyone
I'm
gonna,
ask
you
first
to
please
mute
yourself
if
you're
not
already
muted
and
when
you
do
have
a
question,
you
will
unmute
yourself.
We
will
call
upon
you
later
in
the
morning
for
that
I
am
Christopher
mg
of
the
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
here
at
the
Bloomington
chamber,
headquarters
where
it
is
a
Brisk,
65
degrees.
Here
in
the
office
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
about
me.
A
I
am
the
director
of
advocacy
and
public
policy
here
and
I
have
a
little
bit
of
a
legislative
background.
At
the
end
of
the
last
century,
I
was
an
intern
at
the
state
house,
so
it's
nice
to
be
back
doing
this
sort
of
work.
A
I
first
would
like
to
thank
our
sponsors
who
make
all
of
this
possible.
We
have
the
League
of
Women
Voters
Bloomington
Monroe
County,
the
League
of
Women
Voters
Brown
County,
the
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
Brown
County
Chamber
of
Commerce.
Let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
A
So
all
of
the
representatives
for
Brown,
County
and
Monroe
County
were
invited
to
this
particular
Forum
that
includes
Senate
districts,
41
44,
representative
districts,
46
60,
61
62..
So
we
did
reach
out
to
Senator
Eric
cook
Senator
Shelly,
Yoder,
Representative,
Bob,
Eaton,
representative
Peggy,
Mayfield,
representative
Matt,
Pierce
and
representative
Dave
Hall.
The
agenda
today
next
slide.
A
Just
gives
us
a
little
overview
of
of
the
program.
We
want
everybody
to
remember
that
this
is
an
informative
session,
not
a
debate.
We
will
start
with
each
legislature,
legislator,
introducing
themselves
and
providing
opening
remarks.
Participants
will
be
invited
to
ask
questions
after
all,
legislators
complete
their
introductions
to
ask
a
question.
Please
send
a
direct
message
to
the
question
moderator
stating
that
you
have
a
question
include
your
name.
If
it
is
different
from
your
Zoom
identification,
questions
will
be
taken
in
order.
A
They
are
received
and
you'll
be
asked
to
unmute
when
it
is
your
turn,
please
limit
yourself
to
one
question
and
a
one
minute
time
limit
I
would
encourage
questions
to
be
less
than
that.
One
minute
a
timer
will
be
visible
on
screen
and
I
will
prompt
you.
If
you
do
go
over
your
time
limit,
keep
those
additional
questions
in
reserve.
We
will
have
possible
time
for
that
Community
access
television.
The
cats
is
recording
this
session.
A
Each
question:
let's
see,
I
have
all
that
and
legislators.
You
will
be
limited
to
two
minutes
to
answer
each
of
the
attendees
questions.
A
You
can
stop
sharing
the
screen
now.
I
think
we
are
about
ready
to
begin
and
I
think
since
we
are
A
League
of
Women,
Voters
I
think
it's
great
to
start
with
Shelly.
B
C
Thank
you
Christopher
good
morning,
everyone
good
to
be
together
and
I
am
I.
Had
a
couple
of
good
weeks
were
here
rounding
out
the
first
half
of
session
we've
got
two
more
weeks
to
have
bills
heard
on
in
either
of
the
chambers,
and
then
all
the
bills
that
were
heard
and
passed
through
those
respective
Chambers
will
switch
sides
and
about
the
first
week
of
March,
the
Senate
will
start
hearing
the
house
bills
and
the
house
will
start
hearing
the
Senate
bills.
C
C
The
order
is
placed
and
Medicaid
will
issue
that
we'll
call
it
lark
to
that
Medicaid
recipient
and
that
Lark
is
tied
to
that
recipient,
so
it
requires
by
the
time
the
Lark
arrives
at
the
healthcare
provider
put
an
asterisk
there,
because
I'll
come
back
to
that.
In
just
a
moment.
The
Medicaid
individual
has
to
come
back
into
the
office
for
a
second
visit
for
insertion
or
implantation
depending
on
the
style
of
contraceptive,
and
there
isn't
a
great
rate
of
return.
C
You've
got
anybody,
but
in
particular
Medicaid
individuals
have
transportation
issues
if
they
have
other
children.
They've
got
child
care
to
figure
out
if
they're
working,
they're,
probably
working,
maybe
multiple
jobs,
and
so
that
they're
having
to
ask
additional
time
off
for
that
second
appointment,
so
those
Larks
are
sitting
there
on
Health
Providers
shelves
going
unused
and
they
do
expire
but
they're
tied
to
that
particular
individual.
C
So
the
clinic
is
hoping
that
that
Medicaid
individual
eventually
returns
before
the
lock
expires,
but
more
times
than
not
it
expires
and
the
clinic
eats
that
cost
because
they
do
not
get
reimbursed
until
it
is
implanted
or
inserted.
So
it's
a
great
deal
of
of
loss
for
clinics
and
these
devices
are
around
a
thousand
dollars
a
piece.
This
my
bill
wouldn't
would
enable
Lark
to
be
reissued
to
another
Medicaid
individual.
C
So
after
12
weeks
of
waiting
on
the
Shelf
waiting
for
that
individual
who
it's
tied
to
to
return
to,
have
it
implanted
or
inserted,
if
they
don't
return,
then
it
can
be
reassigned
to
another
Medicaid
individual.
So
it's
incredibly
convenient.
It
can
be
same-day
service
for
individuals
coming
in
and
deciding
that
a
long-term,
reversible
contraceptive
is
best
for
them.
It
can
be
in
inserted
or
implanted
same
day.
It
saves
time
it
saves
money.
It
passed
through
the
Senate
unanimously
and
it's
heading
to
umat,
so
I
hope
I
have
your
support.
C
I
have
actually
the
chair
of
Health
on
the
house
side.
He
is
one
of
the
co-sponsors
of
the
house
sponsors
for
that
bill
and
I
asked
him
specifically
because
I
want
to
hopefully
make
sure
it
gets
a
hearing,
but
I
would
love
your
help
and
get
doing
that
through
the
house.
But
it's
a
great
bill.
It's
good
policy-
and
that
was
my
first
bill.
I
have
another
bill
that
eases
application,
the
application
for
SNAP
benefits
for
seniors
and
those
with
in
disabilities.
That
will
be
heard
on
third
reading
in
the
house.
C
I
mean
in
the
Senate
this
week
that
passed
through
Family
and
Children's
Services
unanimously,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
it
will
come
to
you
too
Matt
on
the
house
side
in
a
couple
weeks
and
I
have
a
third
bill.
That's
going
to
get
a
hearing,
the
climate
task
force,
climate,
Solutions
task
force,
that's
slated
for
hearing
next
week.
So
it's
been
a
great
several
weeks
and
my
repeal
of
mental
products
tax,
it
is
not
dead
and
I
I
could
use
some
advocacy
there
I'm
still
working
it's
it's.
It
still
has
hope.
A
That
last
one,
you
had
repeat
that
last
bill
that
you
needed
some
help
on.
C
So
the
bill
that
well
you
you
can
help
get
a
vote
on
Senate
Bill
335,
the
climate
Solutions
task
force,
Senator
Niemeyer,
who
is
the
chair
of
environment?
He
has
agreed
to
hear
the
bill,
but
he
hasn't
agreed
to
give
it
a
vote,
so
could
use
some
advocacy
there,
but
the
last
one
is
the
repeal
on
menstrual
products.
C
So
there
are,
we
are
you
know,
one
of
the
last
remaining
over
30
States,
no
longer
tax
menstrual
products,
so
you
know
we're
hanging
in
there
for
me,
I
call
it
Blood
Money
appropriately,
really
taxing
those
who
have
uterus
uteruses,
because
there
is
no
equivalent
for
those
who
do
not
who
are
born
without
a
uterus.
There
is
not
an
equivalent
tax
in
the
state
of
Tennessee
in
the
state
of
Michigan.
In
2020,
a
group
called
period.
C
Log
did
win
their
case
in
Michigan
that
that
tax
was
deemed
unconstitutional
and
that
tax
was
removed
from
menstrual
products,
and
that
group
is
making
their
way
across
the
United
States
and
I'm
really
pushing
and
urging
the
Senate
to
hear
my
bill.
That
would
repeal
the
menstrual
product
tax
because
it
would
be
a
win
for
Indiana
I
would
hate
to
have
an
outside
body?
Tell
us
that
we
have
to
do
that
when
it's
the
right
thing
to
do
right
now.
C
So
it's
it's
kind
of
on
life
support,
but
I
could
use
your
advocacy
in
that
in
that
with
that
bill,
I
will
say
this:
women
pay
five
thousand
dollars
in
their
lifetime
for
this
tax
and
it's
I
would
say
unconstitutional,
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
and
I'm
anxious
to
hear
what
Matt
has
to
say
on
what's
going
on
over
in
the
house.
Well,.
A
C
So
we
have,
there
are
some
controversial
bills
that
have
been
filed
and
thus
far
they
have
not
been
placed
on
the
agenda.
One
was
placed
on
the
agenda
sort
of
the
anti-crt
2.0
bill.
It
was
placed
on
the
agenda
and
and
then
taken
off
last
week.
It's
not,
it
hasn't
been
released.
The
agenda
hasn't
been
released
yet
for
Education,
which
is
problematic,
because
what
we're
seeing
is
there's
a
more
and
more
and
more
of
a
delay.
So
it's
very
difficult
to
educate
people.
C
Let
them
know
what's
going
to
be
heard
in
the
coming
week
and
it
feels
strategic
to
me.
You
know
I
want
to
have
give
people
the
benefit
benefit
of
the
doubt,
but
it
does
seem
curious
why
these
agendas
take
so
long
to
be
released
when
all
the
other
committee
agendas
are
released,
but
I
will
say
that
I'm
working
with
the
boys
and
girls
club
and
rbb
CSC
on
an
issue.
C
That's
in
that
Community
trying
to
share
a
building
with
boys
and
girls
club
we're
trying
to
get
an
amendment
on
what
is
really
a
terrible
bill.
But
this
amendment
would
make
it
much
better
trying
to
make
sure
that
school
corporations
can
lease
a
building
or
part
of
a
building
to
a
non-profit
if
it
continues
the
mission
of
the
School
Corp
of
the
school
of
educating
children,
because
the
bill
itself
would
require
a
school
corporation
to
sell
a
building,
that's
not
being
completely
used
for
a
dollar
to
a
charter
school,
and
so
that's
the
bill.
C
That's
making
its
way
through
and
we're
trying
to
get
it
amended.
To
give
this
other
option
to
traditional
public
schools
to
use
space.
That's
not
currently
being
used
that
we
know
in
our
district.
It's!
This
is
a
problem,
but
I
have
heard
from
school
corporations
across
Indiana
that
they
have
the
same,
maybe
they're,
using
a
portion
of
their
space
to
the
YMCA,
maybe
a
portion
of
their
space
they're
using
it
for
a
child
care
facility
for
their
teachers,
maybe
they're
using
it
for
Head
Start.
C
So
School
corporations
are
doing
what
the
community
needs
and
they
don't
need
a
building
that
taxpayers
have
paid
for
to
just
be
sold
for
a
dollar
to
a
charter
school
that
has
zero
oversight
on
the
use
of
those
dollars,
so
that
is
Senate
bill.
391..
It's
up
for
a
vote
this
coming
week.
I
know
that's
going
to
be
on
the
agenda
because
it's
amend
and
vote
only
so
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
bill.
391.
A
And
just
real
quickly,
what
are
some
of
these
other
bills
that
you
noted
earlier
just
to
review
for
our
attendees
here
today.
C
254
is
the
Lark
bill
so
keep
an
eye
out
for
that.
On
the
house
side,
it's
Senate,
Bill
252..
Excuse
me
252.
That's
my
expansion
of
contraceptive
long-term,
reversible
contraceptives,
Senate
Bill
335
is
the
climate
Solutions
task
force
bill.
My
the
snap
ease
of
enrollment
for
seniors
and
those
with
disabilities
is
Senate
bill
334..
A
Great,
thank
you
Senator
Yoder
and
just
a
quick
reminder.
If
you
have
a
question
direct
them
to
the
question
moderator,
you
do
not
have
to
provide
your
questions
or
and
write
it
out,
just
that
you
have
one
up.
Next
up,
we
have
representative
Matt
Pierce
good
morning,
representative
Pierce.
How
are
you.
D
All
right:
well,
as
Shelly
mentioned,
we
are
kind
of
getting
down
to
the
end
of
the
first
half.
So
on
the
house
side,
the
deadline
to
get
all
bills
out
of
committee
and
have
a
committee
report
adopt
in
the
house
floor
is
Tuesday,
February
21,
so
that's
about
a
week
and
a
couple
days,
so
we're
coming
down
there
and
then
two
days
after
that
on
Thursday
February
23rd.
D
That's
the
deadline
in
the
house
to
have
all
the
bills
passed
second
reading,
which
is
the
amendment
stage
before
the
Full
House,
and
then
all
bills
need
to
be
passed
out
of
the
house
on
third
reading
by
Monday,
February
I,
think
27th.
If
I
got
my
date
right
there,
but
the
end
of
to
at
least
last
week
of
February
and
then
there's
after
that's
done,
there's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
half
time,
it's
kind
of
funny.
D
It's
like
everybody
goes
to
their
locker
room
and
they
kind
of
rest
up
for
the
second
half.
And
so
nothing
really
was
gonna
happen.
Then
again,
until
Monday
March
6th
the
session
will
kind
of
get
in
the
full
board.
Then
the
Senate
will
be
handling
the
house
bills
and
the
house
will
be
dealing
with
Senate
bills,
and
so
that's
normally
how
it
works.
Sometimes
a
bill
will
get
fast-tracked
and
kind
of
move
ahead
of
that
schedule
and
we
might
do
a
Senate
bill
before
the
second
half,
but
that's
usually
fairly
unusual.
D
So
that's
kind
of
the
basic
timeline
there.
So
I've
been
focusing
most
of
my
time
in
these
last
couple
weeks
on
energy
issues
because
I'm
the
ranking
member
of
the
House
energy
utilities
and
Telecommunications
committee
and
we've
had
a
lot
of
bills
that
are
really
not
good
for
ratepayers
kind
of
moving
through
there
and
moving
through
that
I
think
they're,
probably
going
to
move
through
the
house.
But
just
to
give
you
a
couple
examples:
House
Bill
1421
would
give
utilities
wanting
to
build
natural
gas
plants.
D
What's
called
construction
work
in
progress,
and
so
this
essentially
means
that
those
utilities
will
be
able
to
begin
charging
rate
payers
for
the
plant
while
it
is
being
constructed.
Even
though
the
plant
is
not
actually
providing
any
energy
to
Consumers
and
so
they've
done
that
for
other
forms
of
generation
as
well,
you
know
some
argue
that
oh
it's
better
for
the
rate
payers,
because
you
can
lower
financing
costs
and
it's
not
like
an
immediate
ramp
of
rates
when
the
plant
comes
online.
D
But
there's
you
know
been
a
lot
of
study
on
it
and
what
they
basically
say
is
not
being
taken
into
account
is
that
the
risk
is
being
shipped
shifted
from
the
shareholders
of
the
utility
onto
the
ratepayers.
So
if
something
goes
wrong
with
the
construction
timeline,
it
gets
delayed,
the
plant
ends
up
not
really
being
needed.
D
Whatever
the
case
might
be,
the
rate
payers
are
going
to
eat
that,
instead
of
the
shareholders
and
really
all
the
bills
from
this
session
are
highlighting
what
has
been
the
policy
of
the
general
assembly
for
the
last
decade
and
that
is
to
insulate
the
investor-owned
utilities
from
any
downside.
And
so
the
quip
is
one
example
that
for
gas,
another
example
is
House
Bill
1417,
which
really
has
me
exercised,
because
this
is
a
has
like
a
really
boring
name
like
deferred
cost,
accounting
or
something.
D
But
it
has
a
real
impact
on
rate
payers,
so
utilities
if
they
face
unexpected
costs
like,
for
example,
a
giant
tornado
comes
through
an
earthquake
or
something
and
a
lot
of
their
infrastructure
gets
destroyed,
and
so
now
they've
got
to
rebuild
it.
They're
able
to
put
that
on
their
books
in
a
deferred
way
and
then
come
into
the
Utility
Commission
and
ask
for
those
costs
to
be
added
to
the
rate
base,
even
though
it
was
maybe
already
covered
in
the
right
case.
D
So
when
you
come
in
as
a
utility
to
rate
case,
you
say
here's
what
it's
going
to
take
for
me
to
run
my
system
to
maintain
it
and
that's
all
built
into
the
rates,
and
so
normally
it's
supposed
to
be
covered.
But
if
you
have
one
of
these
events,
that's
unexpected
kind
of
catastrophic,
then
they
can
come
and
ask
for
it,
and
everybody
agrees
that
that
makes
sense.
D
You
know,
if
you
have
you
know,
half
your
substations
that
are
flattened
by
some
natural
disaster
or
terrorist
attack
or
something
it
makes
sense
that
you
gotta,
get
it
up
and
running
again.
Well,
in
Duke's
case,
they
came
into
the
Utility
Commission
and
they
had
already
calculated
into
their
rate
base.
The
cost
of
maintaining
these
coal
ash
ponds
that
they
have
in
Southern
Indiana,
and
they
ended
up
having
an
extra
200
million
dollars
to
deal
with
these
coal
ash
ponds,
and
so
they
came
into
the
Utility
Commission
and
they
said
hey.
D
D
The
case
went
all
the
way
up
to
the
Supreme
Court
and
the
Supreme
Court
said:
yep
Utility
Commission,
you
violated
the
law
because
you
engaged
in
what's
called
retroactive
rate
making,
because
the
coal
ash
Pond
costs
were
already
in
the
rate
base
from
the
big
rate
case
and
Duke
should
have
just
come
back
in
and
and
ask
for
another
rate
case
if
they
felt
their
costs
weren't
being
covered.
Now,
why
does
Duke
and
every
utility
want
to
avoid
a
rape-based
case
as
long
as
they
can
that's?
D
Because
in
a
rape-based
case
the
consumers
can
come
in
and
say:
okay,
you
may
have
higher
costs
to
deal
with
that
coal
ash
pond,
but
over
here
you
saved
a
bunch
of
money
because
you
put
in
these
smart
meter
things.
You
don't
have
to
pay
the
meter
readers
to
go
around
anymore
or
things
are
happening
in
an
automated
way
or
you
shut
down
a
bunch
of
your
offices
where
people
used
to
walk
in
and
pay
their
bills.
D
You
know,
and
so
you
can
basically
offset
some
of
the
increased
costs
by
arguing
that
their
cost
Savings
in
other
parts
of
their
operation,
because
remember
utilities,
don't
have
competition
they're,
what's
considered
a
natural
monopoly,
so
like
it's,
you
know
they
are
going
to
be
guaranteed
a
profit.
Just
the
question
is:
what
is
that
profit?
So
when
the
Supreme
Court
ruled
that
that
was
improper
retroactive
rate
making?
D
The
legislature
has
immediately
jumped
into
action
and
they've
got
this
bill,
1417
moving,
which
essentially
says
we're
going
to
overrule
the
Supreme
Court
and
make
sure
Duke
gets
their
200
million,
and
it's
pretty
staggering,
because
the
bills
it's
written
out
now
I
think
that
I've
been
told,
there's
going
to
be
some
amendments
on
second
reading,
so
maybe
this
will
get
better
as
it
moves
along,
but
there's
a
provision
in
the
bill
that
essentially
says
notwithstanding
any
utility
law,
so
anything
in
title
eight
of
the
code.
D
You
shall
give
them
this
money
and
then
it
has
a
little
line
at
the
bottom
of
the
section
that
says,
if
you
think
it
is
just
and
reasonable.
D
A
committee
on
a
party
line,
vote
and
that'll
be
before
the
house
this
week,
and
so
that's
just
an
example
of
where
we
make
sure
the
utilities
get
their
money
up
front
without
having
to
go
through
a
rate
case.
Second
example
of
that
is
House
Bill
1420,
which
is
also
moving,
and
that
has
to
do
with
the
building
of
transmission
lines.
D
Now
we
have
to
get
more
transmission
lines
out
there,
because,
if
we're
going
to
be
moving
Renewables
around
new
solar
fields
and
things,
you
need
like
these
big
high
power
lines
to
move
stuff
around,
but
you've
got
different
types
of
high-tech
height
transmission
lines.
Some
are
meant
to
bring
stuff
in
from
other
states.
Some
are
meant
to
just
get
you
from
one
part
of
your
utility
to
another,
some
from
the
coal
plant
in
Southern
Indiana
up
to
Indianapolis.
So
you
have
all
these
different
kind
of
categories.
D
Well,
the
Federal,
Energy
Regulatory
Commission
quite
some
time
ago
said
that
when
you
have
these
you,
these
transmission
lines,
which
are
determined
to
be
needed
by
a
regional
transmission
Authority
ours
is
called
mizo.
So
basically
the
guys
who
try
to
make
sure
we
have
power
in
all
the
Midwest
say
we
need
some
more
transmission
lines.
D
The
ferc
people
said
you
have
to
do
an
open
bidding
process
for
that,
so
any
company
could
come
in
and
say:
hey
I
can
build
and
operate
that
most
efficiently
and
cheaply,
and
the
mizo
people
would
run
that
bid
and
they
would
put
it
in
service
and
then
the
money
would
be
going
to
this
external
company.
Well,
the
utilities
don't
like
that.
They
want
the
money
and
they
want
that
in
their
rate
base,
and
so
they
have
got
this
bill
moving.
D
That
gives
them
the
right
of
first
refusal
on
those
things
and
gives
them
it
supposedly
creates
competition
by
telling
them
they
have
to
do
a
bidding
process
and
think
about
the
price,
but
it's
all
within
the
control
of
the
utilities,
so
you're
taking
it
away
from
a
third-party
neutral
third
party
and
putting
the
hands
of
an
interested
utility,
because
the
thing
you
have
to
remember
is
the
utilities.
Profit.
D
Its
rate
of
return
is
based
upon
the
cost
of
service,
so
the
more
a
utility
can
gold
plate
the
cost
of
its
facilities,
the
more
money
it
makes,
and
so,
if
it
can
get
those
transmission
lines
and
make
them
really
expensive
and
build
them,
they
get
an
even
bigger
profit.
It's
a
perverse
incentive
built
in
to
the
way
utilities
are
regulated,
so
those
are
just
another
example
of
the
legislature
doing
everything
they
can
to
provide
money
to
the
utilities,
while
at
the
same
time
they
pay
lip
service
to
affordability
for
rate
payers
and
I'll.
D
Just
give
you
one
example,
or
to
kind
of
juxtapose
that
so
I
think
you
might
remember.
I've
talked
about
this
from
time
to
time,
the
Supreme
Court
ruled
on
net
metering,
so
people
who
put
solar
panels
on
their
roofs,
they
have
the
right
to
be
compensated
for
extra
energy.
They
feed
into
the
system.
The
legislature
passed
the
bill
several
years
ago
that
that
reduced
it
from
a
one-to-one
credit
down
to
like
the
wholesale
rate
plus
25.
D
Never
once
during
that
debate,
do
we
talk
about
changing
the
way
you
would
calculate
what
the
excess
energy
was,
the
amount
of
it
well,
the
Utility
Commission
went
off
and
let
the
utilities
create
this
new
system
of
calculating
that
energy,
which
really
disadvantages
the
person
with
the
solar
panels
that
went
all
the
way
up
to
to
the
Supreme
Court
and
the
Supreme
Court.
That
time
said
what
Utility
Commission
did
was
okay
and
that
we
think
that
it's
fine
under
the
law
well
I
know
that
is
not
what
the
legislature
was
thinking.
D
So
I
offered
an
amendment
to
make
clear
that
we're
going
to
maintain
the
way
we've
always
calculated
excess
right,
which
wouldn't
be
what
the
utilities
want.
Well,
my
amendment
was
defeated
on
the
house
floor.
So
they're
more
than
willing
to
overturn
Supreme
Court
decisions
when
they
disadvantage
the
utilities,
but
if
there's
disadvantage
for
rate
payers
or
people
have
solar
energy,
then
they're
not
interested
in
that
so
I've
been
kind
of
exercised
and
frustrated
about
that
whole
thing.
Well,.
A
Thank
you,
representative
Pierce
we're
going
to
take
questions
now.
So,
if
you
have
any,
please
direct
those
to
the
question
moderator
first
up,
if
you
could
unmute
Karen
greenstone,
you
have
a
question
for
our
legislators.
E
C
Morning,
representative
Pierce,
would
you
talk
about
your
bill
1472
that
has
to
do
with
High
hospital
bills.
F
D
Yeah
sure
so,
as
some
of
you
might
know,
there's
a
couple
bills
been
introduced
by
the
Republican
majority
to
try
to
get
at
this
issue
of
our
hospitals
having
some
of
the
highest
rates.
I
think
were
seventh
in
the
country
for
Hospital
rates
and
there's
a
business
group
I
think
called
Hoosiers
for
affordable
healthcare.
It's
pretty
connected
and
they're
really
pushing
the
legislature
to
do
something
to
bring
the
cost
down
for
these
employers,
and
so
the
Republicans
have
a
couple
bills
that
are
introduced.
D
So
I
introduced
the
bill
that
would
have
Indiana
move
to
a
plan
or
a
system
that
exists
in
Maryland,
so
in
Maryland
what
they
do
is
they
have
what
they
call
an
all-payer
system
in
which
East
each
Hospital's
rates
for
their
procedures
are
set
and
they
apply
to
every
payer
for
that
service.
So,
whether
you're
Medicare
Medicaid
private
pay
insurance,
the
procedure
is
the
same
cost.
It's
not
it
eliminates
this
cost
shifting
then.
D
So
what
they
found
is
they've
they've
saved
about
a
billion
dollars.
The
federal
government's
been
monitoring
it
because
Medicare
Medicaid
have
to
give
them
waivers,
and
so
there's
been
quite
a
bit
written
about
it
and
while
you
can't
say
nothing
in
healthcare
is
a
total
slam
dunk,
it
looks
really
promising
and
so
I
think.
That's
a
system
that
would
work
well
here
and
they've
now
moved
to
like
the
next
phase,
which
is
called
total
cost
of
care.
D
But
the
point
is
right:
now
we
live
in
a
world
where
Health,
Care,
Providers
and
hospitals
make
money
based
on
the
number
of
procedures
they
do,
and
that
means
the
more
they
do,
the
more
money
they
make
better
to
have
them.
Thinking
about
how
to
avoid
people
having
to
have
procedures
because
they
did
a
better
job
of
caring
for
them.
I
see
I'm
out
of
time
here.
C
No
I
appreciate
Matt
filing
that
legislation.
I
would
only
say
that
he's
right.
There
are
several
bills
that
we've
been
hearing
in
the
health
committee,
one
in
particular,
which
is
a
side
of
service
bill
which
is
house
bill,
I
mean
I'm,
sorry
Senate,
Bill,
six,
as
as
it
was
noted,
it
did
barely
make
it
out
of
the
health
committee
and.
C
Hospitals
across
the
board,
the
people
who
are
for
this
are
definitely
your
employer
based.
C
I
can't
think
of
the
word.
Employers
are
for
this
because
they're
thinking
that
this
is
going
to
reduce
costs,
but
the
problem
is
that
it
is
going
to
severely
and
drastically
devastate
hospitals
in
the
way
that
they,
you
know,
are
able
to
run
their
business.
C
Who
wasn't
at
that
table
and
you
don't
see
them,
they
were
all
doing
other
things.
Where
are
the
insurance
companies
and
they
were
nowhere
when
we
were
having
this
bill
debated
in
committee,
and
that
was
that
was
noted.
You
know
they
have
been
silent
and
I
think
without
addressing
the
high
cost
of
of
Health
Care
in
Indiana
and
not
have
them
be
part
of
the
solution
because
they
are
certainly
part
of
the
problem
is,
is
too
simple
of
a
solution
so
Senate
Bill
6,
it
did
pass
out
of
committee.
C
F
Thank
you.
I've
noted
that
if
you
drive
an
electric
car
when
you
come
to
register
it
annually,
you
pay
150
cert
tax,
because
it's
an
electric
car
I
was
wondering
how
that
compares
with
the
tax
I
would
be
paying
at
the
pump
if
I
were
driving
a
gas
powered
car
and
where
this
hundred
fifty
dollars
actually
comes
from
I'd.
Like
some
details
about
that,
if
you
can.
D
Yeah
I
can
I
can
jump
in
on
that
Jim
that
goes
back
to
I
think
it
was
2017,
the
one
that
you
might
recall
that
there
was
a
big
Transportation
infrastructure
bill
that
came
through
the
general
assembly
and
they
actually
raised
the
gas
tax
and
the
idea
was
they
were
going
to
create
this
long-term
funding
stream
to
ensure
they
could
maintain
and
build
a
bunch
of
new
roads
like
I-69.
So
during
the
process
of
that
discussion,
people
said
well.
D
These
electric
car
people
are
not
paying
their
fair
share
because
when
I
have
my
gas,
guzzler,
pickup
truck
and
I
have
to
fill
up.
My
giant,
you
know
40
gallon
tank
or
whatever
I
pay
a
lot
more
tax
gas
tax
which
contributes
to
keeping
the
roads
up.
Then,
when
the
little
Prius
shows
up-
and
you
know
they
fill
their
tank
every
month
or
something
and
so
theoretically
that
that
150
dollar
surcharge
is
supposed
to
be
some
approximation
of
the
gas
taxes
that
you
would
be
paying.
D
If
you
had
a
conventional
gas
vehicle
and
I,
don't
remember
I'm
hearing
the
methodology
they
used
on
that,
but
believe
me,
we
raised
it
at
the
time
saying
like
look,
and
this
was
even
before
the
latest
EV
car
craze.
We're
just
essentially
saying
look
if
climate
change
is
real.
If
we
want
to
try
to
get
people
transitioned
to
you,
know
zero
carbon
energy
Vehicles,
we
shouldn't
be,
you
know
putting
these
disincentives
in
there.
We,
you
know
the
federal
government.
G
C
No
but
I'll
just
give
a
little
plug
for
my
bolt.
It
serves
a
great
purpose
for
me
to
go
back
and
forth
to
Indianapolis
every
day,
so
I
appreciate
Maddox,
giving
some
further
explanation
to
that.
To
that
fee.
A
A
E
Yes,
thank
you.
I
wondered
if
representative
Pierce
and
Senator
Yoder
could
comment
on
Senate
Bill
4
the
Public
Health
bill.
What
you're
feeling
is
about
that
bill
and
what
chance
you
think
it
has
for
Passage.
C
Thanks
Kathy
I'll
go
first
Matt
if
you're,
okay,
if
it's
still
in
the
house
right
now,
it's
in
Appropriations-
and
it
is
also
going
to
be
some
amendments-
are
I-
would
suspect
likely
on
this
bill.
For
the
most
part,
sort
of
the
the
line
fell.
This
way
there
were
individuals
against
it
and
those
individuals
were
those
who
were
very
much
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
label
people,
but
I.
C
Don't
know
that
group
during
covid
that
I
think
they
got
labeled
anti-vaxxers,
but
that's
who's
really
sort
of
pushing
back
against
Senate
Bill
4
saying
that
this
is
a
government
overtake
of
Public
Health,
which
it
is
called
public
health
and
the
unique
thing
about
this
bill
is.
It
does
not
require
counties
to
participate
in
this
additional
funding
to
a
county.
It
requires
the
Commissioners
or
a
county
to
decide
whether
or
not
to
participate
in
this
Public
Health,
commission
and
then
the
additional
money
would
come.
C
Every
county
is
going
to
get
what
they
normally
get
on
a
typically,
but
they
would
get
additional
funding
if
they
would
participate
in
this
commission
and
it's
right
now.
It's
significant
funding,
and
so
there
was
a
group
of
folks
that
are
allowed
against
this,
because
it
sounds
like
government
overtake
of
Public
Health.
It
is
public
health.
So,
yes,
we
have
a
role.
C
The
government
has
a
role
in
that,
but
some
of
the
other
concerns
would
be
I
know:
I've
heard
from
IU
School
of
the
optometry
school
they're
concerned
that
the
requirement
of
the
eye
test
is
being
diluted
and
at
a
time
when
students
need
that
higher
level
of
eye
exam.
So
there's
some
concern
there
that
we're
working
on
an
amendment
and
there's
also
an
amendment
around
who
can
qualify
for
that
local
Health
officer
now
right
now
it
is
a
a
physician
and
that
language
is
being
amended
some.
C
So
we're
going
to
keep
an
eye
on
for
that.
But
by
and
large
by
by
and
large,
it's
a
good
step
for
Indiana
to
invest
and
prioritize
this
for
for
our
state,
so
I'm
hopeful
that
it
will
successfully
get
through
the
Senate
and
go
over
to
the
house.
Will
the
funding
be
there
we'll
have
to
wait
and
see.
G
Write
any
comments
representative,
Pierce,
yeah.
D
I
think
it's
just
important
to
know
that
kind
of
the
subtext
and
all
this
health
stuff
is,
is
really
covet
hangover,
so
I
mean
there
are
two
very
kind
of
distinct
views
of
Public,
Health
departments
right.
So
for
a
lot
of
us,
Public
Health
departments
are
out
there
helping
educate
people
about
you,
know
not
smoking
and
helping
people
who
are
smoking
to
stop.
D
You
know
helping
understand
how
to
avoid
diabetes
and
just
have
better
health
outcomes,
get
kids
vaccinated.
You
know
a
lot
of
things
that
would
make
Indiana
a
healthier
State
and
by
the
way,
save
employers
a
lot
of
money,
because
they'd
have
a
healthier
Workforce.
So
that's
one
view
of
the
health
departments
and
what
they
do.
The
other
view
of
the
health
departments
is
is
an
oppressive
kind
of
overbearing,
unelected
bureaucracy,
and
this
goes
back
to
covid,
so
they're
the
people
who
made
people
wear
masks
told
businesses
they
have
to
close
they're.
D
The
people
who
show
up
and
tell
you
that
your
septic
tank
is
not
working
and
you
have
to
hook
up
to
a
sewer
system
and
then
cost
you
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
and
there
have
been
like
septic
Wars
going
on
forever.
So
for
people
who
view
Public
Health
departments
in
that
context
of
the
people
that
hassle
me
forced
me
to
do
stuff,
I
don't
want.
D
You
know
let
alone
people
are
skeptical
vaccines.
They
don't
want
additional
funding
in
a
more
robust,
Public,
Health
Department
system
because
they
think
they're
just
going
to
get
more
of
what
they
don't
like.
So
the
question
is
who's
going
to
win
the
day
in
the
general
assembly
with
that
Viewpoint.
Are
they
going
to
view
the
public
health
departments
as
the
positive
entity
that
helps
make
Hoosiers
healthier,
or
is
it
going
to
be
seen
as
some
kind
of
oppressive
over
regulatory
entity,
and
so
we'll
just
have
to
find
out
how
it
comes
out.
H
The
background
noise
you
hear
is
is
because
I'm
down
here
at
City
Hall
for
the
black
market.
This
is
one
of
the
events
that
the
city
of
Bloomington
is
has
put
on
for
Black
History
Month.
It's
an
homage
to
the
black
market
that
used
to
stand
at
the
corner
of
Dunn
and
Kirkwood,
where
people's
markets
or
People's
Park
is
now
anyway.
H
That's
why
the
background
noise
and
I
think
it
turns
out
that
Senator
Yoder
has
probably
already
addressed
most
of
what
I
wanted
to
ask
about,
namely
Senate
Bill,
four
and
the
reason
that's
on
my
radar
is
that
at
Thursday's
meeting
of
the
Board
of
Public
Health
here
in
Monroe
County,
that
that
bill
got
a
lot
of
energetic
public
commentary
from
folks
who
sort
of
fall
into
the
category
of
of
people
who
are
concerned
about
government
overreach.
H
And
it's
not
anything,
that's
in
the
bill
right
now,
they're
concerned
about,
but
rather
the
fear
of
possible
amendments.
Little
tweaks
that
have
impacts
that
only
the
cleverest
of
folks
could
figure
out
and
so
I
was
hoping.
Maybe
you
could
address
sort
of
how
you
might
approach
any
possible
amendments
that
might
have
a
negative
effect
on
what
the
intent
of
this
bill
is
as
it
stands
now,
thanks.
C
Their
what
I
was
able
to
hear
specifically
there
was
one
of
the
one
of
the
commissions
meetings
early
in
the
summer.
Some
comments
were
made
that
struck
a
nerve
with
people
and
it
sounded
condescending.
It
sounded
heavy-handed,
and
that
has
individuals
the
this.
C
This
group
of
individuals
very
concerned
that
the
bill
says
that
it's
a
a
voluntary
program
that
counties
will
have
to
vote
to
participate
but
the
sen,
and
that
accounting
will
continue
to
get
the
funding
that
they've
always
received
that
that
will
not
be
harmed,
but
there
is
a
lack
of
trust
that
that
is
actually
going
to
happen.
C
So,
let's
so
that
the
idea
is,
let's
just
defeat
the
bill,
because
it's
they're
they're
not
being
honest
with
us
and
what's
difficult
with
setting
up
trying
to
look
out
for
amendments
is
how
will
they
amend
it
because
the
language
is
is
just
not
there.
This
is
a
complete
participate.
If
you
want
to
participate,
don't
participate.
If
you
don't
want
to
participate,
it
is
a
local
decision,
and
so
you
will
have
to
look
for
amendments
that
fix
something
that
isn't
there.
So
that
will
be
interesting.
I
think
I.
C
Think
what
I'm
looking
for
has
me
concerned
is:
will
there
be
funding
that
will
make
possible
the
fulfillment
of
Senate
Bill
4,
because
if
that
gets
harmed,
then
much
of
Senate
Bill
4
is
is
not
going
to
be
successful?
It
will
require.
The
whole
purpose
of
this
is
to
get
funding
to
address
public
health
concerns
in
counties
across
Indiana.
So
if
the
funding
is
not
there,
then
what's
the
point
of
having
the
commission,
because
the
funding
it's
it's
the
money
and
the
investment
that
local
communities
desperately
need.
D
I
agree:
the
main
thing
is,
you
know
what
what's
going
to
be
the
level
of
funding?
If
any,
you
know
will
they
meet
the
governor's
request
and
that's
probably
the
overriding
thing,
but
you
know
when
it
comes
to
amendments.
I
think
that
essentially,
the
question
is:
how
much
will
the
kind
of
more
right-wing
Public
Health
Department
Skeptics
assert
themselves
to
the
point
where
maybe
they
feel?
Oh,
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
this
thing
passed
unless
we
do
something
to
make
those
people
feel
better.
D
So
maybe
we
have
to
put
some
more
restrictions
on
what
health
departments
can
do
over
certain
subjects
and
that
I
could
see
that
being
a
possible
compromise
among
Republicans,
because
you
gotta
remember
at
least
in
the
house
and
I
think
this
is
how
it
works
in
the
Senate
too,
is
now
with
the
super
majorities.
They
go
into
their
caucus
and
they
actually
have
the
real
debate
within
their
caucus.
You
don't
really
see
the
debate
very
often
on
the
house
floor
before
the
cameras.
D
It's
all
happening
behind
closed
doors
and
you
have
the
you
know
most
conservative
wing
of
the
Republican
Party
fighting
with
the
conservative
wing
of
the
Republican
party
and
they
have
to
assess
whether
they
have
the
votes
after
they
tell
the
more
conservative
members.
Sorry
you're
not
going
to
get
your
way
or
whether
they
say
oh
we're
going
to
need
their
votes
now,
and
so
we
better
figure
out
how
to
get
them.
And
that's
where
you
start
kind
of
pairing
the
bill
down
or
putting
limitations
on
it.
A
I
Yes,
I
do
good
morning
and
thank
you
for
taking
my
question.
I
am
with
Bedford
online
and
we
have
recently
started
a
legislative
watch
page
on
our
website.
I
Right
now
we
have
highlighted
Bill
House
Bill
1568
that
would
allow
pharmacists
to
prescribe
birth
control
pills
and
patches
to
patients.
Instead
of
a
doctor,
we've
been
running
a
poll
for
a
few
days
to
see
how
our
community
feels
about
it
and
the
yeses
are
definitely
outweighing
the
nose.
I
You
know
we
live
in
a
rural
community
where
we
have
limited
access
to
health
care
and
it
can
take
weeks
to
get
an
appointment.
So
pharmacists
have
more
pharmacology
training
than
doctors
in
school.
So
would
this
I
take?
This
would
be
a
plus
for
Women's
Health.
How
do
you
feel
about
the
bill?
I
believe.
Last
time
it
was
in
session.
It
got
vote.
It
was
out
one
bill
before
getting
passed.
D
J
D
Haven't
heard
any
discussion
at
all
about
this
bill
and
I?
Think
it's
so
I
I'd
be
a
little
bit
surprised
if
it
moved,
because
you
have
to
remember
that
there
is
a
faction
within
the
house
caucus
that
kind
of
thinks
that
birth
control
is
abortion,
that
you're
basically
preventing
pregnancy
and
that's
a
bad
thing
and
or
that
it
might
promote
promiscuity
in
some
way.
So
those
bills
are
difficult
to
pass
now.
D
Maybe
something
might
happen
because
I
know
that
when
we
had
that
special
session
in
order
to
ban
abortion,
there
was
a
lot
of
kind
of
nice.
Talk
coming
from
the
Republican
side
that
oh
yeah,
we
recognize
that
we're
doing
something
pretty
big
here
and
so
we're
gonna
do
all
kinds
of
new
supports
for
women
who
might
find
themselves
to
be
pregnant.
D
We're
going
to
do
lots
of
stuff
to
make
sure
that
women
have
access
to
birth
control
and
other
things
that
would
prevent
them
from
being
in
a
position
where
they
might
want
to
seek
an
abortion,
and
so
that
was
kind
of
the
promise
they
made
at
the
time
and
so
I
don't
know
if
they'll
actually
make
good
on
that
this
session
or
not,
but
I
haven't
I,
haven't
heard
much
or
really
any
discussion
about
that
at
all.
But
again
I
don't
serve
on
the
the
health
committee.
D
C
Well,
I've
been
talking
with
the
authors
of
that
bill,
pretty
regularly
trying
to
get
updates
preparing
for
the.
In
the
event
it
does
make
it
to
the
Senate
sort
of
making
my
rounds
and
Fielding
questions.
C
You
know
it's
interesting
because
I've
been
thinking
about
this
bill
and
how
much
Planned
Parenthood
served
in
this
role
for
counties
when
I
was
coming
of
age
and
for
so
many
women
and
girls
that
they
could
go
to
their
Planned
Parenthood
clinic
and
have
these
conversations
and
those
clinics
are
few
and
far
between
I
think
I'm.
We're
down
to
what
lesson
five
I
think
in
in
Indiana
and
now
with
sb1,
depending
on
what
happens
really.
C
What
is
the
future
of
accessing
birth
control
if
even
those
few
clinics
struggle
to
stay
open,
so
I'm
hopeful,
I'm
gonna
remain
hopeful
that
the
bill
does
get
a
hearing
and
we'll
sort
of
have
to
see
how
it's
being
amended.
I
know
they're
working
very
closely
with
the
Indiana
State
Medical
Association,
because
of
course
there
there
are
concerns
there,
but
but
we
have
time
it
is
winding
down.
But
I
know
those
that
are
working
on
this
bill
on
the
house.
C
Side
are
working
very,
very
hard
and
I'm
trying
to
stay
connected
to
them
to
see
how
I
can
be
helpful
in
preparation
for
coming
to
the
the
Senate.
But
that's
a.
D
Little
yeah
yeah
I
should
probably
jump
in
so
I.
Just
looked
at
like
who's
on
this
bill,
and
so
representative
Railway
is,
is
the
author,
but
also
representative.
Nagel
is
one
of
the
co-authors
and
she
was
fairly
outspoken
in
the
La
in
the
the
abortion
session
that
we
needed
to
do
more
on
birth
control
and
so
I'm
I'm,
guessing
that
they
are
probably
pushing
pretty
hard
behind
the
scenes
to
see
if
they
can
get
something
to
move.
And
it's
just
a
matter
of
what
happens
there
and
represent
Vermillion.
D
Also
I
think
it's
one
of
the
few
Republicans
who
did
not
vote
for
the
abortion
ban
and
so
she's
on
that
bill
as
well
and
then
represent
Fleming
who's.
The
a
Democrat
she's,
an
OB
GYN
from
across
the
river
from
Louisville
down
there
and
she's
been
pretty
outspoken
since
she
deals
directly
with
patients
in
her
practice.
A
B
Okay,
great,
my
name
is
Amy
Oliver
I
am
on
the
school
board
in
Brown
County.
We
recently
had
a
referendum
that
failed,
so
I'm
very
interested
in
the
referendum
bill.
That's
pending
right
now,
and
efforts
basically
to
make
what
I
perceive
as
make
referendums
even
harder
to
advocate
for
and
pass,
and
then
I'm
also
wondering
about
your
thoughts
on
the
partisan,
School
Board
election
bills
and
whether
or
not
you
think
they
are
likely
to
pass.
Thank
you.
D
That
really
was
not
good
and
I
know
that
the
you
know,
School
boards
and
superintendents
associations
have
been
trying
to
see
if
they
can
get
that
fixed
and
so
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
going
to
move
or
not,
but
that's
definitely
an
issue.
D
That's
out
there.
What
was
the
side
I
brain
faded
on
the
second
I
think
there
was
a
second
issue
in
there.
Oh
the
school
boards,
partisan
school
boards
yeah.
So
there
is
a
bill
moving
I
understand
that
it
got
amended
in
committee.
That
would
instead
of
mandating
that
all
School
Board
candidates
would
have
to
declare
their
party,
and
that
would
be
on
about
like
every
other
partisan
election
I
think
they
changed
it
so
that
each
School
Board
would
vote.
D
So
if
your
school
board
wanted
to
have
basically
partisan
elections
for
their
District,
they
could
do
that,
and
so
maybe
that's
a
slight
Improvement,
but
I
think
that
you
know
in
a
place
like
Bloomington.
D
If
the
school
board
were
to
make
that
decision,
I
don't
think
you'd
ever
see
a
republican
in
a
very
long
time
on
the
school
board,
which
is
you
know
not
a
good
thing,
because
to
me
running
a
school
is
not
really
a
Republican
versus
Democrat
thing,
but
you
know
when
this
bill
I
was
on
elections
committee
last
year
when
they
attempted
this
bill
and
I
think
it
was
a
little
bit
embarrassing
committee,
because
no
one
was
for
it
in
committee
or
yeah
other
than
the
author.
D
No
one
else,
everyone
else
was
against
it,
but
I
I.
Never
forget
I
asked
the
author
I
said
well.
What
is
the
most
important
thing?
What
is
the
thing
that
the
voter
is
going
to
learn
with
this
r
d
label
in
these
School
Board
elections?
Why
do
you
think
this
is
so
important
and
he
looked
at
me
and
he
said
so
they
will
know
who
the
moral
candidate.
F
B
G
C
Matt
summarized
it
very
well,
but
I
would
just
add.
It
does
seem
to
be
getting
more
momentum
this
session
than
it
did.
I
mean
I've
only
been
there
for
two
sessions,
but
last
session.
It
seems
that
you
know
if,
if
it's
going
to
be
successful,
it's
just
because
it
seems
that
more
people
are
warming
up
to
the
idea.
I
had
not
heard
about
the
amendment
that
Matt
mentioned,
but
well,
but
I
do
have
concern
about
about
this
and
about
it
succeeding.
A
J
Hi
there
thank
you,
I
have
a
question
about
Senate,
Bill
486
and
that's
I'm.
Sorry
about
the
background
noise.
There.
It
was
about
taking
discussion
away
from
teachers
I'm.
A
teacher
and
discretion
is
an
important
tool
that
we
use
monthly
and
is
there
any
chance
of
an
amendment
for
that.
C
Well,
we,
the
Democrats
on
the
education
committee
on
the
Senate
side,
had
I
want
to
say
maybe
seven
different
amendments.
We
tried
to
get
that
language
amended.
My
hope
is
when
it
goes
over
to
the
house.
It
will
get
it.
It
will
be
successful
in
getting
amended
I,
don't
know
where
representative
baining
is
on
this,
who,
who
chairs
the
house
version
of
education
so
I'll?
C
Let
Matt
speak
to
that,
but
we
certainly
tried
to
get
the
language
amended
and
we
we
just
did
not
have
the
votes
so
hopefully
that
change
will
happen
over
in
the
house
when
it
gets
there.
Thank
you
for
your
question.
D
Yeah,
so
this
bill
actually
is
part
of
like
a
boom
and
bust
cycle
of
Education
regulation.
So
what's
been
happening,
it
seems
like
it's
about
a
five-year
cycle.
Is
the
Republicans
decide
that
there's
too
much
regulation
in
the
schools
we're
going
to?
Let
them
just
do
what
they
want.
We're
going
to
repeal
all
this
stuff
and
what
you're
really
talking
about
is
over
time.
You
have
lots
of
mandates
to
build
up,
so
we
say
hey.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
defibrillators
in
our
schools,
so
you
have
to
have
them
there.
D
We
want
to
make
sure
our
kids
know
about
you,
know
financing.
So
you
have
to
teach
some
stuff
about
personal
finance.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
kids
know
about
dura's
career,
so
you
got
to
talk
about
these
careers
and
so
over
time
you
get
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
requirements
on
the
schools
trying
to
achieve
all
these
goals.
The
general
assembly
thinks
we
ought
to
do
and
then
every
five
years
to
decide.
Oh
we've
done
too
much,
let's
strip
all
those
away,
so
in
the
process
stripping
those
away,
they
are
deciding
oh
yeah.
D
We
should
also
get
rid
of
the
requirement
that
they
have
to
discuss
all
these
various
issues
with
their
teachers
union.
Now
you
have
to
understand
that
the
only
reason
why
these
discussion
Provisions
are
in
the
law
is
because
the
general
assembly
several
years
ago,
Stripped
Away,
pretty
much
all
the
collective
bargaining
rights
of
teachers,
so
I
think
they
got
it
down
to
where
they
can
kind
of
bargain
about
their
pay.
But
as
far
as
working
conditions,
there
was
a
time
when
teachers
could
bargain
they
could
say.
D
Okay,
what
size
is
the
classroom
going
to
be
how
many
breaks
am
I,
going
to
get
what
kind
of
load
am
I
going
to
have
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
homework
and
stuff,
and
all
you
know,
there'd
be
a
lot
of
things
about.
What's
going
to
happen
within
the
classroom
and
within
the
school
that
was
all
taken
away.
They
said
you
cannot
negotiate
for
that
anymore
teachers.
We
don't
want
you
involved
in
that.
D
So
during
all
the
pushback,
then
there's
this
thing
called
discussion
where
you
can
put
into
the
law
like
okay
you're
not
allowed
to
bargain.
You
can't
really.
You
know
try
to
fight
to
get
out
of
contract,
but
we'll
just
say
the
school
districts
have
to
at
least
discuss
it
with
you
right,
which
of
course
takes
all
your
leverage
away,
because
now
you're
not
bargaining
about
getting
submitting
a
contract
you're
just
kind
of
discussing
it.
So
now
it
seems
to
me
a
really
a
step
back
and
an
even
more
disrespect
for
teachers.
D
If
we
go
from
you
can't
even
you
can't
bargain
for
it
and
now
we're
going
to
take
away
the
requirement
that
you
don't
even
have
to
discuss
it,
the
school
board
could
just
say:
that's
off
the
table,
not
interested
move
on
to
the
next
thing.
So
I'm
we'll
do
my
best
to
try
to
keep
that
from
becoming
law.
C
I,
it's
yes!
It's
a
comment.
I
just
want
to
say
this
deregulation
bill
that
it's
being
called
we're
going
to
remove
some
of
the
requirements
to
make
it
easier
for
teachers
at
the
same
time
that
we're
passing
all
of
these
additional
requirements
that
teachers
have
to
do.
But
what
makes
it
even
more
outrageous
is
all
the
bills
are
filed
by
the
same
person.
So
the
the
argument
to
deregulate,
and
then
the
next
breath
is
but
I
think
they
should
be
doing
X,
Y
and
Z.
So
yes,
let's
defeat
486..
So
thanks
Matt.
A
Senator
I'll
just
remind
everybody
and
our
legislators
to
Just
note
the
bill
number.
It
helps
those
of
us
at
home
following
along
to
understand
what
the
bills
include.
Next
up.
We
have
commissioner
Givens.
Commissioner,
do
you
have
a
question
for
our
legislators?
Yes,.
K
There's
a
lot
been
discussion
about
the
expansion
of
our
Convention
Center
here
in
town
and
that's
related
to
food
and
beverage
tax
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
what's
happening
with
Senate
Bill
37.
And
if
you
could
talk
about
that,
please
and
also
I
want
to
thank
both
representative
Pearson
Senator
Gilder
for
giving
up
their
Saturday
morning
to
be
with
all
of
us.
C
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Giffins.
It's
an
honor
to
to
be
here
really
and
I
would
say
so.
Senate
Bill
37
..
So
this
is
a
bill
that
I
personally
really
worked
very
hard
to
change,
so
that
Monroe
County
would
not
be
devastated
by
the
legislation
and
they
did
respond
and
it
had
been
every
food
and
beverage
tax.
C
C
C
C
We
are
working
off
of
what
was
passed
in
the
legislature
and
why
the
legislature
gets
to
decide
I,
think
that
should
be
our
original
question,
but
but
they
do
and
this
idea
of
the
sunset
I
think
it
it
would
have
been
more
palpable.
Had
we
been
able
to
have
that
part
of
the
discussion
back
in
2017
I
think
when
we
finally
passed
it,
but
we
are
already
hearing
and
passing
very
specific
food
and
beverage
taxes
for
communities,
Columbus
Maryville.
So
it's
not
that
they're
going
away!
It's
just
that
they're.
C
Looking
at
more
specific
language
and
greater
transparency
on
these
food
and
beverage
taxes.
So
right
now,
we've
got
until
40
47
to
successfully
get
our
Convention
Center
expanded
and
and
going
up
and
going
our
expanded
convention
center,
and
that
is
Senate
bill.
37.
D
We're
just
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
this
you
know
effort
to
essentially
rid
the
state
of
food
and
beverage
taxes.
Now
they
knew
they
couldn't
come
in
and
just
wipe
them
out.
So
they
decided
to
put
a
Sunset
date
on
it,
and
they
also
recognized
that
if
you
were
already
had
bonds,
let
they
were
dependent
upon
that
Revenue.
You
couldn't
take
that
away
either,
so
they
had
to
let
the
bonds
play
out.
What
puts
our
County
in
a
tough
position
is
because
we
don't
yet
have
our
bonds
let
for
the
project.
D
We
don't
have
that
kind
of
protection
of
being
able
to
say,
hey,
wait
a
minute.
You
know
we
can't
default
on
our
bonds.
You
got
to
keep
our
Revenue
stream
going.
So
that's
why
it's
very
important
that
Shelley
was
able
to
get
that
extra
time
so
that
perhaps
we
can,
you
know,
get
things
rolling
and
then
we'll
have
a
little
bit
more
protection
on
that
project.
D
The
issue
on
whether
or
not
the
sunset,
the
food
and
beverage
taxes,
I
guess
it
just
depends
on
whether
you
think
that
they
should
be
limited
to
the
initial
Capital
cost
of
constructing
a
facility
or
whether
you
think
they
should
be
an
ongoing
tool
to
maybe
help
later
with
the
rehab
of
the
facility
or
to
you
know,
pay
for
programming
or
Personnel
related
to
it,
and
so
I
think
the
way
that
food
and
beverage
tax
got
written
is
it
talks
about
Economic,
Development
efforts
and,
of
course,
some
money
does
go
off
to
I,
think
Ellettsville
and
some
other
places
that
they
can
decide
how
they
want
to
use.
D
It
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
division
there,
so
I
mean
it's
just
a
philosophical
thing
of.
Do
you
think
that
Revenue
generated
by
the
food
and
beverage
tax
will
continue
to
do
good
things
and
maybe
20
years
from
now,
when
it
comes
time
to
rehab
the
facility?
You
already
have
the
revenue
stream,
or
do
you
want
people
to
have
to
come
back
to
the
legislature
each
time
they
have
a
new
project
and
get
that
that
approved?
So
that's
kind
of
just
a
philosophical
issue.
A
L
Yes,
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
about
the
Senate
Bill
254,
which
was
authored
by
Shelly,
Yoder
and
I,
really
like
this
bill.
It's
about
protecting
utility
customers
and
it
has
three
different
important
parts
in
my
mind.
It
would
allow
utilities,
Electric
utilities
to
voluntarily
establish
consumer
assistance
programs
which
other
utilities
can
already
do.
L
It
would
also
require
the
utilities
to
report
regularly
on
any
kind
of
issues
that
have
to
do
with
disconnects
on
delinquent
accounts
and
so
on,
so
that
we
know
how
much
of
a
problem
that
actually
is,
and
then
it
also
does
a
lot
to
protect
people
who
have
difficulties
paying
so
by
requiring
the
utilities
to
offer
payment
plans
and
all
kinds
of
other
really
good
provisions
and
I've
kind
of
looked
at
this
bill
and
I've
seen
that
it's
not
very
popular,
so
it
hasn't
gotten
any
co-authors,
and
it's
not
scheduled
for
a
hearing
and
I
know
that
these
issues,
or
some
of
them
at
least,
had
been
discussed
in
the
21st
century
energy
task
force
and
had
not
gotten
a
really
great
response
there
from
the
Republican
majority
and
so
I'm.
L
L
C
Masterful
job
of
being
a
brief
overview
of
the
Bell,
so
thank
you
and
you're
right
I
mean
you
already
have
figured
out
The
Genius
of
getting
things
done.
It
is
the
first
time
I've
filed
this
and
I'm
new
to
the
Senate,
so
I'm,
not
sure.
If
this
language
I
know
I
worked
on
this
language
directly,
so
it
didn't
come
from
anywhere
I
mean
we
were
sort
of
piecing
it
together.
C
C
He
and
I
are
finding
ways
to
work
together
and
that's
been
good
and
so
I'm
hopeful
that
maybe
the
whole
Bill
won't
be
successful,
but
piecing
it
apart
and
focusing
on
elements
of
the
bill
this
session
as
amendments
or
fixing
what
seems
problematic
with
the
bill
and
filing
it
again
next
session,
so
I'm
still
working
on
it.
C
D
It's
just
another
example
of
the
invest,
your
own
utilities
really
calling
the
shops
in
the
general
assembly.
So
you
know,
Shelley
and
I
were
like
the
tag
team
on
the
energy
task
force,
trying
to
get
some
of
these
affordability
Provisions
in
the
final
recommendations,
and
it
was
kind
of
like
us
against
the
world
and
people
just
weren't
interested.
D
So
you
know
the
the
interesting
thing
is
that
there
there
is
already
in
statute
the
ability
for
other
utilities
like
water
utilities,
to
create
their
own
voluntary
affordability,
programs
right,
but
for
some
reason,
the
utility,
the
electric
utilities
did
not
want
to
have
that
flexibility,
and
so
they
made
sure
they
were
out
of
there.
They
did
not
want
the
pressure
if
somebody's
saying
like
hey,
why
don't
you
put
together
some
affordability
programs
within
your
rate
base
to
help
people
who
are
struggling
to
pay
their
energy
bills?
D
They
also
don't
really
want
people
to
know
how
many
people
are
getting
disconnected
and
for
how
long
and
for
over
what
amounts.
So
they
don't
like
this
kind
of
legislation
at
all,
but
what
I
would
simply
just
say
is:
okay,
electric
owned
utilities.
If
you
or
investor
on
utilities,
if
you
want
to
do
this
in
the
electric
space,
create
your
own
kind
of
internal
affordability
program
to
help
lower
income
people,
you
would
be
able
to
do
that
under
the
law.
But
they
apparently
don't
want
even
the
option
to
do
that.
A
A
Have
one
I'll
take
the
liberty
of
asking
one
of
the
chambers
priorities?
Is
housing
and
I
noticed
one
of
the
house
bills,
the
is
it
first
through
nine
representative
Pearson
or
the
super
majorities
priorities
is
House
Bill
1005.
A
Any
any
comments
on
that
particular
piece
of
the
legislation.
It's
a
housing
infrastructure
assistance
program
and
does
some
other
things
comments.
D
I
mean
we
it's
an
important
issue
that
we
should
be
addressing,
but
really
they
had
a
summer
task
force
on
this
and
it
was
kind
of
dominated
by
the
developers,
and
so
what
they
came
up
with
was
the
idea
that,
if
the,
if
the
developers
didn't
have
to
pay
for
the
infrastructure
or
the
infrastructure
is
there,
you
know
your
sewer
lines
and
all
that
kind
of
good
stuff
that
that
would
they
wouldn't
they
would
be
able
to
reduce
the
price
of
housing
because
their
costs
would
go
down
and
that
you
could
do
that
with
this,
and
so
the
state's
going
to
have
a
grant
program
where
you
can
get
money
to
help
put
in
these
Utilities
in
areas
where
there'll
be
new
developments,
I
did
vote
for
because,
okay,
we
got
to
do
something,
but
there
are
a
couple
things
that
I'm
a
little
skeptical
about.
D
D
And
if
you
can
check
off
all
the
boxes
on
the
list
they
created
in
the
statute,
then
you
can
get
100
of
the
potential
grant
money.
That's
out
there.
The
kinds
of
things
that
the
boxes
are
is
basically
to
reduce,
Planning
and
Zoning
so
like
if
you
agree
to
increase
density.
D
If
you
I
mean
some
things
that
we've
had
quite
significant
debates
on
here
in
our
own
Community,
but
they're,
basically
saying
if
you
do
things
that
make
your
Planning
and
Zoning
more
friendly
to
people
who
want
to
develop
housing,
then
you'll
get
more
points
and
you'll
get
more
money.
So
it's
kind
of
a
voluntary
kind
of
carrot,
approach
to
trying
to
get
communities
to
reduce
their
Planning
and
Zoning
requirements.
C
Real
quickly,
I
was
trying
to
find
the
the
bill
because
it
did
pass
out
of
the
Senate.
It's
a
it's
a
bill
that
would
create
the
ability
to
have
residential
tiffs,
but
the
the
way
the
language
was
it.
The
task
force
that
I'll
I'll
look
up
the
bill
number,
but
the
task
force
that
Matt
is
speaking
about.
C
Nowhere
in
the
recommendations
was
this
recommendation
included
and
a
part
of
this
language
says
that
school
boards
may
be
part
of
the
discussion
and
in
other
areas
of
Indiana
code.
School
boards
are
always
at
the
table.
They.
They
are
part
of
the
decision
making
of
these
tips
and
this
language
said
they
may,
but
it
wasn't
required-
and
you
know
the
author
of
The
Bill
said.
Well,
you
know
it's.
C
It
doesn't,
doesn't
prohibit
a
school
board
from
from
being
part
of
the
discussion
if
they
feel
like
it's
important
for
them
to
be
at
the
table
and
I
feel
that
school
boards
need
to
be
at
the
table.
They.
They
should
be
part
of
this
discussion
because
it's
going
to
directly
impact
them,
and
so
it
was
problematic
number
one
that
the
first
bill
that
we
heard
to
address
the
housing
crisis
in
Indiana
didn't
even
come
from
the
recommendations
of
the
time
and
energy
and
expertise
that
went
into
the
housing
task
force
to
begin
with.
C
So
that
was
frustrating,
but
number
two
is
to
take
to
not
give
a
seat
at
the
table
to
our
School
our
school
boards
and
to
consider
how
it's
going
to
impact
the
school
corporations
in
in
Indiana
is
problematic,
and
so
just
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
I'm
going
to
find
out
that
bill
and
I'll
put
it
in
the
chat
the
number,
but
you
know,
I
we're
fortunate,
because
we
have
a
good
relationship
with
with
our
school,
our
school
corporation
in
our
in
in
Monroe,
in
Monroe,
County
and
also
in
Richmond
Blossom.
C
A
You
Senator,
we
don't
have
any
more
questions.
Does
anybody
from
the
league
want
to
ask
a
question?
While
we
still
have
a
few
minutes.
A
Well,
I
have
not
any
any.
Let's
just
do
some
final
thoughts.
Representative
Pierce,
while
Senator
Yoder
is
looking
up
that
build.
You
have
any
just
anything
we
didn't
didn't
cover.
D
Yeah,
let
me
oh
yeah.
Let
me
just
talk
about
the
1008,
which
is
called
the
ESG
bill,
which
is
actually
becoming
kind
of
a
humorous
thing.
So,
as
you
know,
ESG
is
kind
of
a
new
thing
in
investing
it's
like
environmental,
social
and
governance
issues.
D
So
the
ideas
that,
while
you're
thinking
about
where
you
would
invest
your
money
to
get
a
return
on
your
investment
that
will
help
you
out
that
at
the
same
time,
you
think
about
what
those
corporations
are
doing
in
the
area
of
environment,
social
issues
and
also
their
own
kind
of
governance
practices.
And
so
and
it's
become
popular
because
you
know,
if
you
pay
attention
to
any
of
the
marketing
that
comes
to
you
from
people
who
want
to
like
you
know,
manage
your
401k
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
D
You
know
they
they
talk
about.
Hey
we've
got
these
ESG
funds,
so
they're
kind
of
popular
I
think
among
investors.
They
would
like
to
get
a
return
and
also
be
advancing.
You
know
some
causes
that
they
care
about.
Well,
for
many
of
our
Republican
friends,
this
is
like
a
horrible
thing,
and
last
year
they
attempted
to
pass
a
bill
that
essentially
say
that
if
any
bank
or
anybody
had
anything
to
do
with
promoting
ESG
as
a
consideration,
investing
they
couldn't
do
business
with
the
state.
D
The
bankers
went
nuts
and
fought
it
off,
so
they
came
back
this
year
with
1008,
which
makes
it
an
official
Republican
priority
bill,
and
it
would
say
that
the
Pension
funds
cannot
use
any
companies
to
manage
their
Investments
that
vote
in
shareholder
meetings
or
do
anything
with
their
power.
You
know
if
you're,
a
big
shareholder,
you
get
to
vote
on
proposals
at
the
annual
meeting
and
stuff,
and
so
what
they
basically
said,
and
this
really
tells
you
something
about
the
priorities
of
the
Republican
Party.
D
If
you
have
any
like
investment
operation
that
when
they
have
these
shareholder
votes,
if
they
vote
for
anything
that
would
combat
greenhouse
gases,
promote
civil
rights
in
the
areas
of
employment
and
diversity
and
governance,
if
any,
if
they
vote
for
anything
to
div,
that
deals
with
environmental
standards
that
attempts
to
punish
or
harm
Firearms
or
ammunition
manufacturers,
or
anything
that
would
harm
or
try
to
divest
from
fossil
fuel
companies,
Timber
mining
or
other
mineral
extraction
companies,
and
so
what
this
bill
would
say
is
like
okay,
perf
Turf,
you
State
Pension
people.
D
When
you
decide
you
know
these
big
Wall,
Street
firms
they're
going
to
be
managing
your
money.
You
have
to
monitor
and
make
sure
that
none
of
them
vote
for
any
of
this
stuff.
That
would
harm
the
Firearms
manufacturers
or
the
fossil
fuel
companies,
among
other
things,
or
promote
civil
rights
or
environmental
issues.
And
so
the
argument
was.
You
should
be
strictly
focused
on
your
fiduciary
duty
to
provide
the
best
return
possible
for
the
retirees,
so
they
can
have
as
large
a
pension
as
possible,
and
you
should
not
consider
any
other
Factor
well.
D
The
irony
is,
there
is
an
updated
fiscal
impact
statement
of
what
1008,
what
impact
it
would
have
on
the
pension
fund,
and
this
was
after
talking
to
perf
and
Turf,
and
what
they
found
is
that
if
ten
thousand
eight
thousand
eight
becomes
law,
it
will
have
a
6.7
billion
dollar
impact,
a
loss
to
the
pensions.
So
I
think
that
probably
we're
not
going
to
hear
from
HB
1008
ever
again
I'm
thinking
it's
probably
going
to
float
out
to
sea,
because
they're
kind
of
stuck
now
their
whole
argument
was
these
crazy,
woke.
D
Esg
people
are
costing
us
money
and
we
got
to
keep
everybody
focused
on
the
fiduciary
aspect
of
this
management.
But
now
the
fiscal
impact
shows
that
just
having
to
do
all
the
bureaucracy
and
not
invest
in
certain
funds
was
going
to
cost
them
about
6.7
billion.
So
they're
gonna
have
a
hard
time.
Overcoming
that.
A
The
state
chamber
has
also
been
really
roundly
against
a
particular
piece
of
legislation.
Shelley
final
Applause.
C
Thank
you,
Chris
I
would
say
my
first
session
back
in
2021
I
filed
a
bill
to
create
just
to
codify
an
Indiana
Law
protections
for
classifications
that
currently
don't
have
aren't
specified
in
Indiana
law
for
protections
when
it
comes
to
discrimination
in
schools
that
is,
gender,
gender
identity
and,
oddly
enough
marital
status
so
and
I
was
at
you
know
the
ACLU
very
you
know
kindly
and
respectfully
said.
C
Can
you
not
make
a
lot
of
noise
about
that?
Because,
right
now
it's
actually
good
for
our
trans
Community
there's
just
not
a
lot
of
attention
and
it's
good
to
bring
attention
that
was
2021.
in
2023
we
have
14
bills
that
were
filed
that
it
directly
impact
gender
affirming
care.
C
How
if,
if
somebody
changes
their
attire
at
school
needs
to
you
know,
the
teacher
needs
to
report
that
if
a
student
wants
to
change
their
name,
that
needs
to
be
reported
immediately,
and
so
that's
how
quickly
you
know
things
have
moved
in
two
years,
but
I'm
very
alarmed
by
the
number
of
bills
that
are
othering
an
anti-trans
for
members
of
our
community,
their
the
individuals
and
their
families,
how
they
are
targeting.
Just
a
couple
of
bills
to
keep
in
mind:
Senate
Bill
480
is
a
health
care
bill
and
it
would.
C
It
would
prohibit
a
minor
under
the
age
of
18,
from
pretty
much
seeking
any
gender
affirming
care
and
Senate.
Bill
354
is
an
education
Bill
and
that's
the
bill
that
would
require
teachers
to
report.
If
a
student
changes
their
attire
if
they
request
to
be
called
by
a
different
name,
of
course,
the
pronouns
very
scary,
but
if
they
want
to
request
different
pronouns,
it
has
to
be
reported.
C
C
Maybe
you
could
speak
to
that
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
at
a
time
when
our
trans
Community
already
feels
like
there's
a
Target
on
their
back
and
for
Trans
children
and
their
families
to
feel
that
the
state
is
really
coming
after
them.
It
has
to,
it
is
terrifying,
and
we
should
all
you
know
just
keep
an
eye
out
for
those
bills.
Do
what
you
can
to
your
use,
your
voice,
your
activism,
to
be
an
ally
to
be
an
advocate
and
to
stand
up
for
people
in
the
state
of
Indiana.
C
D
Yeah,
so
on
the
trans
front
we
did
have
representative
Mayfield
has
introduced
House,
Bill
1569
and
it
did
pass
out
a
committee,
and
essentially
it
would
say
that
you
could
not
that
doc
could
not
spend
any
money
on
gender
reassignment
surgery
for
any
inmates,
and
originally
the
bill
said
you
also
could
not
provide
any
hormonal
therapy,
but
I
think
it
became
pretty
clear
to
the
committee
even
before
we
had
the
meeting
that
that
would
be
unconstitutional,
because
it's
cruel
and
unusual
punishment
under
the
Constitution
not
to
provide
people
with
necessary
medical
care.
D
So
that's
like
the
battle
right
is,
you
know,
is
gender
dysphoria
I?
Think
that's
the
term,
but
his
treatment
of
that
is
that
medically
necessary?
Or
is
it
not?
D
And
this
is
where
you
get
into
the
politics
of
it,
because
people
have
decided
I,
think
in
the
Republican
party
that
there's
lots
of
votes
to
be
gotten
by
promoting
this
trans
issue
as
some
kind
of
crazy
thing,
where
we've
invented
something
that
doesn't
really
exist
and
we're
brainwashing
our
kids
to
believe
that
there
are
different
sects
than
they
really
are
and
that
this
is
getting
out
of
some
kind
of
crazy
fad.
That's
getting
out
of
control,
so
we
gotta
like
Tamp
it
down
and
I.
D
Think
like
a
lot
of
things
in
politics
when
people
don't
maybe
know
trans
people
directly
and
they
are
kind
of
can't
understand
something
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
fear
in
there.
It's
the
same
thing
happened
with
same-sex
marriage
right
so
for
about
a
decade
the
Republicans
made
hay
off
the
idea
that
our
world,
as
we
know
it,
would
end
if
you
allowed
same-sex
couples
to
get
married.
Well,
today,
it's
overall,
you
supported
even
Republicans
voted
to
repeal
the
Defense
of
Marriage
Act
in
Congress.
B
D
The
world
turned
so
I
think
that
we're
in
this
horrible
phase,
where
beating
up
on
trans
people
is
good
politics,
at
least
for
a
particular
base,
a
voting
base
out
there
and
that's
what
they're
going
for
now.
They
got
a
little
bit
beaten
up
last
time
because
they
said
why
are
you
picking
on
little
kids
when
they
did
the
trans
athlete
bill?
You
know
what
you
know.
Why
are
you
bullying
these
little
kids
on
this
issue,
so
I
think
they
decided
like?
Oh,
who
will
Who?
D
Don't
have
many
friends,
so
we
can
go
after
them,
so
even
though
you've
got
maybe
one
or
two
people
and
all
Doc
out
of
the
tens
of
thousands
of
people
in
there
that
you
know
might
be
asking
for
this
type
of
treatment.
It's
like
I,
said
in
committee.
You
know
of
all
of
the
issues
that
are
facing
our
courts
and
our
criminal
justice
system.
This
one
is
at
the
bottom
of
the
list
and
yet
we're
passing
it
through
because
they
want
to
go
campaign
on
that.
D
They
want
to
check
that
box
off,
and
the
other
thing
that
was
a
little
bit
frustrating
in
that
committee
is
really
no
one
showed
up
to
provide
either
objective
information
about
the
health
aspects
around
this
issue,
or
even
advocates
for
the
trans
Community.
What
we
got
was
some
written
testimony
and
one
person
who
said
he
was
a
medical
doctor
who
showed
up
and
basically
said
the
surgery
is
not
appropriate.
D
It's
detrimental
that
it
raises
suicide
rates
and
we
had
written
testimony
from
someone
saying
like
you:
don't
need
the
surgery,
because
I'm
really
good
at
conversion
therapy
and
we
can
actually
just
correct
the
problems
through
conversion
treatment.
And
so
there
wasn't
a
very
good
discussion
at
all
in
the
in
the
committee.
So.
M
A
Thank
you,
representative
Pierce.
If
we
want
to
get
that
last
slide
up,
I
can
ask
a
question
that
we've
gotten
from
Jim
Cook
regarding
the
lack
of
Republican
legislators.
Here
this
morning,
every
every
legislators
asked
the
the
same
way
and
I
did
speak
with
representative
Dave
Hall
of
62,
who
represents
all
of
Monroe
or
all
of
Brown
County
Jackson
and
some
of
Monroe.
He
had
an
event
today.
A
He
could
not
make
it,
but
I
do
expect
to
see
the
representative
sometime
in
a
future
League
of
Women
Voters
Forum
that
we're
having
on
this
Saturdays.
But
that's
always
a
good
question
to
ask.
We
would
love
to
see
much
more
participation
from
that
side
of
the
aisle
to
get
the
super
majorities
perspective
on
things.
I
want
to
thank
the
legislators
who
did
show
up
today:
Senator
Yoder,
representative,
Matt
Pierce
and
all
the
attendees
who
took
time
out
of
their
Saturday
morning
to
join
us
with
some
legislative
updates.
A
I
thought
it
was
pretty
informative.
You
can
find
the
at
the
Indiana
General
Assembly
website
the
bills
and
where
they
are
at.
Please
contact
your
local
legislators.
If
you
have
opinions
that
you
care
about
we'll
be
back
with
you,
Saturday
March
11th
same
time,
9
30.
A
people
who
registered
you
will
have
an
update
and
receive
emails
with
handouts
from
the
co-sponsors
I'd
like
to
thank
first
again,
our
legislators
who
joined
us
today,
those
of
us
who
logged
on
Community
Access
Television
services,
which
provides
a
great
document
of
what
we
just
went
through.
What
would
we
do
without
cats
in
our
lives
and,
of
course,
our
team
members
here
who
helped
out
with
the
questions
and
setting
this
up,
that
we
can
win?
A
Voters
do
an
excellent
job,
so
thank
you
to
our
sponsors,
the
League
of
Women
of
Voters
Bloomington,
Monroe
County,
and
the
league
from
Brown
County,
the
greater
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
the
Brown
County
Chamber
of
Commerce
I.
Think
all
of
you
have
a
rest
of
your
great
Saturday
morning,
we'll
see
you
next
month.
Thank
you
very
much.