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A
Okay,
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started,
probably
expecting
a
little
bit
of
a
smaller
group
tonight
than
some
of
our
other
meetings.
As
I
said
before,
we're
going
to
be
discussing
the
plan
unit
development
rezones
tonight
and
how
those
were
how
the
proposal
was
put
together
and
what
it
means.
So
I
will
share
my
screen
here
in
a
second
just
a
reminder.
A
If
you
haven't
been
to
one
of
these
information
sessions,
yet
we
are
going
to
do
no
cameras
and
no
audio,
and
if
you
have
questions
after
I
give
the
short
presentation
and
we
discuss
other
stuff
kind
of
discusses
the
process
as
well.
Then
you
can,
please
send
questions
to
either
keegan
or
ryan
keegan
ghoulick
or
ryan
roebling
through
the
chat,
and
then
they
will
read
those
out
and
we
will
try
to
get
you
answers
here
and,
if
not
compile
those
to
have
them,
go
up
on
the
website
soon.
A
Okay,
so,
as
I
said
before
tonight,
we're
going
to
talk
about
planning
and
development
rezones,
so
part
of
the
process
that
we
are
getting
prepared
for
is
an
update
to
the
zoning
map.
So
this
is
the
end
of
the
full
update
to
the
zoning
text
that
was
adopted
in
april
of
this
year
and
then
the
accompanying
map.
That
comes
along
with
that.
So
this
is
part
of
that
process.
One
of
the
things
we
did
was
look
at
the
existing
planning
and
developments
in
town,
so
plan
unit
developments.
A
If
you
don't
know
what
they
are
they're
unique
zoning
regulations
for
particular
groups
of
parcels
they're
intended
to
promote
a
mix
of
uses
or
a
unique
design
that
would
otherwise
be
difficult
or
not
able
to
be
accomplished
within
the
zoning
code.
So
basically,
each
plant
and
unit
development
is
its
own
small
zoning
code.
Currently,
in
the
city,
we
have
over
100
planned
unit
developments
119,
I
believe,
the
city.
So
obviously
we
have
to
administer
codes
for
each
of
those
separately.
A
Many
of
the
areas
are
expected
to
be
rezoned
to
base
zoning
districts
with
this
update
and
that's
what
we've
proposed
to
do
so.
The
story
map
discusses
the
proposed
changes
to
many
of
our
existing
puds.
That's
what
this
little
presentation
is,
and
it
will
go
up
on
the
website
after
today,
as
well
as
me,
describing
it
and
any
questions,
and
that
we
are
able
to
answer
tonight
will
go
up
as
well.
A
A
A
Excuse
me
magnifying
glass
in
the
top
left
to
type
in
an
address
if
you're
looking
to
see
if
a
property
that
you
are
interested
in
or
own
or
for
some
reason,
just
want
to
know
about-
is
part
of
the
pub
discussion.
A
So
here
we
have
our
current
puds
shown
in
gray,
and
then
this
layer
shows
what
we
are
proposing
to
change
them
to.
We
are
not
proposing
to
change
all
of
our
existing
beauties,
so
we'll
discuss
that
here
shortly,
but
the
large
majority
we
are
proposing
to
go
to
straight
zoning
districts
from
the
code
and
then
you
can
use
these
buttons
to
zoom
in
to
the
different
areas
and
then
also
the
map
is
interactive.
A
So
you
can
grab
and
move
around
and
zoom
in
down
on
the
bottom
right
as
well,
and
then
in
this
story
map
we've
also
included
a
link
to
a
table
of
the
existing
puds
that
we
analyzed.
So
basically
it
has
information
in
in
the
table,
including
a
pd
identification
number
that
we
use
and
the
pud
name
that
was
used
as
well.
The
last
zoning
on
the
parcel,
the
recommend,
the
zoning
that
we're
recommending
and
then
a
comment
explaining
our
proposal
or
what
is
at
the
site
currently.
A
A
Previous
to
that
as
well,
we've
had
zoning
since
the
70s,
the
unified
development
ordinance
would
has
stipulations
that
are
written
with
the
expectation
that
puds
will
be
reviewed
and
expired
when
certain
thresholds
are
met,
including
after
a
period
of
inactivity
or
if
the
pud
is
no
longer
operating
within
the
guidelines
of
the
pud
or
certain
build
up
percentages.
A
So
we
have
included
those
triggers
here
so
that
you
can
see
what
those
are
and
when
what
rubric
we
use
to
decide
whether
or
not
it
was
appropriate
to
recommend
a
rezone.
So
the
first
is
that
at
least
95
of
the
pud
has
been
built
out.
The
second
is
showing
that
the
preliminary
plan,
which
is
basically
the
one
of
the
first
steps
in
getting
a
pud
that
creates
the
district,
that
those
are
to
be
considered
abandoned
if,
three
years
after
the
approval
by
council
no
final
plan
or
what
sometimes
people
refer
to.
A
As
site
plan
has
been
granted,
and
then
the
third
is
that,
10
years
after
approval
of
that
initial
rezoned
preliminary
plan,
that
final
plans
have
started,
but
there
are
sections
that
are
still
not
finished
and
the
final
one
is
just
if
the
pud
is
no
longer
proceeding
in
accordance
with
the
original
district,
ordinance
commitments
or
time
requirements
that
are
approved
at
the
same
time
as
the
preliminary
plan.
A
and
each
of
them
falls
under
at
least
one
of
the
four
triggers
above
and
then
we
will
go
through
a
real
world
example.
Shortly.
A
So
it
has
been
in
the
regulations
that
this
needs
to
be
reviewed
periodically
and
for
various
reasons
that
hasn't
been
done.
It's
quite
a
big
undertaking,
so
we
decided
that
this
was
an
appropriate
time
to
do
that.
It
used
to
be
much
more
difficult
than
it
is
now.
So
you
can
see
here.
A
We've
explained
why
so,
for
example,
in
order
to
determine
that
a
pud
is
95
built
out,
we
would
have
to,
of
course
review
all
case
files
and
some
of
the
pd's
are
quite
old
and
have
been
amended
a
number
of
times,
so
that
is
actually
a
fairly
laborious
process
building
permits
to
see
what
has
been
built
built
there
and
then
visiting
the
site
to
verify
what
we
could
find.
So
you
know
now
that
we
have
much
easier
access
to
ortho
photography
than
we
did.
A
A
Obviously
notice
has
to
be
given,
and
so
during
this
zoning
map
process,
we
are
already
sending
notice
to
the
entire
city.
So
it
seemed
like
an
appropriate
time
to
include
that
with
the
notice
that
we
would
already
be
sending
out
and
obviously
using
taxpayer
dollars
to
fund
and
a
way
to
update
the
the
map
to
have
it
be
more
relevant
and
current
okay.
A
So
I'm
going
to
briefly
go
over
an
example,
because
I
think
it's
kind
of
it
might
be
difficult
to
understand
a
little
bit
or
saying
if
you're
not
used
to
kind
of
living
in
the
planning
and
zoning
world.
So
this,
I
think,
is
a
good
example
that
staff
found
and
identified
and
we'll
just
quickly
go
through
it.
So
one
of
our
existing
119
puds
is
a
pud
that
is
actually
where
kroger
at
kinser
and
the
bypass
is
located.
A
So
it
was
originally
reviewed
by
plan
commission
in
1991
to
be
created
to
turn
into
a
pud,
and
so
the
original
intent
was
for
the
beauty
to
be
designed
in
order
to
create
a
neighborhood
shopping
area
to
be
able
to
serve
the
nearby
residential
development.
A
And
previously
it
had
been
zoned
for
single-family,
residential,
so
pud
was
created,
and
during
that
process
a
site
plan
was
approved
through
the
development
plan
process,
showing
that
the
idea
for
the
pud
would
that
there'd
be
a
large
grocery
store,
anchor
store
on
the
west
end
and
then
smaller
commercial
development
on
the
east
end
with
parking
in
the
center.
A
So,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
site,
you
know
that
that
is
how
it
has
developed.
The
building
orientation
is
slightly
different
for
the
small
for
the
small
retail,
but
the
intent
and
development
ideas
for
the
pd
have
been
met
so
for
plan
unit
developments,
they're,
designed
with
the
regulations
in
language
that
are
in
the
zoning
ordinance
at
the
time
that
they're
approved.
A
So
that
makes
sense,
of
course,
but
as
we
go
on
in
time
and
we
update
the
zoning
code
and
then
and
then
we
initiated
the
unified
development
ordinance,
which
changed
the
code
format
quite
a
bit,
then
those
become
obsolete.
So
the
pud,
as
I
said
before,
is
created
so
that
minor
changes
can
be
allowed
to
maybe
a
useless
or
development
standards,
because
that
the
developer
is
looking
for.
A
A
So
in
this
case
this
this
particular
beauty,
a
list
of
land
uses
that
are
allowed
in
area
a
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
lot,
and
there
was
at
one
time
discussion
of
having
an
outlet
there.
So
that
area
is
included
and
then
the
pd
also
has
a
maximum
square
footage
restriction
per
use
in
area.
A
so
again
more
details
than
the
existing
coding
code
had
at
the
time
a
different
list
of
uses
than
the
code
had
at
a
time
had
at
the
time
and
that's
what
they
requested
from
council
and
were
approved.
A
So
some
puds
often
contain
a
list
of
excluded
uses,
so
they
may
say
have
identified
the
ba
zoning
district,
which
was
a
zoning
district
at
the
time
and
said
we
would
like
to
use
all
of
those
uses,
except
for
and
then
list
the
ones
that
they
are
willing
to
exclude
and
ask
council
to
allow
them
to.
Maybe
do
something
else
have
higher
density
or
more
impervious
surface
coverage
or
something
in
order
and
then
giving
up
potential
uses
for
that.
A
The
issue
is
that
those
lists
of
excluded
uses
are
still
in
effect
today.
So
when
someone
calls
to
develop
in
a
pud
or
someone's
trying
to
do
due
diligence
on
their
own
to
find
out
what
kind
of
uses
are
allowed.
These
are
the
types
of
documents
we
have
to
pull
up
every
time
for
each
pud
and
over
time.
That
gets
to
be
tedious
and
they
get
amended
and
it
becomes
fairly
difficult
to
track
and
to
be
able
to
expediently
give
accurate
information
to
the
public.
A
Another
issue
is
because
the
code
changes
over
time.
A
lot
of
the
uses
listed
in
these
older
use
and
excluded
use
tables
no
longer
exist,
so
that
also
makes
implementation
a
little
difficult
for
a
property
owner
to
see
what
what
they
are
allowed
to
do.
A
And
then,
as
we
discussed,
development
standards
can
also
be
included
so
in
this
particular
pud
regulations
that
were
common
at
the
time
and
that
no
longer
meet
the
goals
of
our
current
long-range
plan.
The
comprehensive
plan
or
other
goals
that
have
kind
of
grown
since
this
pud
was
first
approved
such
as
environmental
and
architectural
goals,
are
still
are
still
regulating
this
property.
A
So
any
potential
development
at
this
site
does
have
to
meet
the
development
standards
that
are
current
in
that
are
currently
in
that
pud
that
have
remained
from
1991,
so
that
can
cause
some
conflict
with
goals
of
the
community
as
well.
So,
for
example,
at
this
pud.
This
is
a
pretty
big
deviation
from
our
current
udo
and
there's
an
expectation
in
this
pd
that
parking
will
be
allowed
in
front.
A
That
used
to
be
obviously
the
way
that
many
commercial
areas
were
designed,
and
this
pd
perpetuates
that,
even
though
the
city
code
has
the
udo
has
reversed
that
and
asks
for
buildings
to
be
built
forward
for
some
time
now.
A
So
again,
because
each
beauty
can
call
out
which
things
they
do
and
don't
want
to
meet
from
the
code
that
is
in
place
at
the
time
that
can
make
administration
difficult.
It
becomes
more
time
consuming
for
property
owners
and
others
doing
due
diligence,
even
just
for
insurance
updates
and
things
where
they're
trying
to
make
sure
the
properties
are
in
line
with
land
regulations,
because
they
can't
easily
find
those
things
themselves.
A
A
Okay,
so,
as
we
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
it's
kind
of
a
an
issue
that
is
just
cr
has
been
created
because
of
a
lack
of
expiring
these
puds.
So
they
are
not
actually
intended
to
exist
in
perpetuity.
A
So
we
have
identified
104
pd's
that
we
think
should
be
eligible
to
be
retired
and
by
retired
we
mean
put
into
one
of
the
regular
zoning
districts
and
again
based
on
those
four
criteria
that
are
near
the
beginning
of
the
story
map.
We
looked
at
those
compared
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
original
pud,
the
use
standards
as
well
to
the
comprehensive
plan
and
then
found-based
zoning
districts
from
the
code
that
best
match
those
goals
and
identify
districts
from
the
code.
That
would
make
sense
for
the
new
rezone.
A
So
in
this
example,
as
we
talked
about
at
the
beginning
of
the
example,
the
original
goal
of
the
pud
was
to
be
able
to
create
a
large
anchor
grocery
store
and
then
allow
for
outlet
development
as
well.
The
comprehensive
plan
calls
for
this
area
to
be
urban
corridor,
which
also
allows
for
a
mixture
of
commercial
and
mixed
use,
development,
and
so
the
the
department
identified
that
this
site
should
be.
A
We
think
this
site
should
be
rezoned
to
mix
use
corridor
mc,
which
is
our
most
intense
commercial
district,
that
matches
what
is
happening
on
site.
What
was
intended
to
happen
on
site
and
then
any
development
that
happens
in
the
future
would
now
have
to
meet
the
use,
standards
and
development
standards
of
the
nc
district.
A
So,
instead
of
going
back
to
the
pud
every
time,
someone
wants
to
do
development
on
this
site
to
check
if
there
are
any
exceptions
for
setbacks
or
uses
or
any
number
of
things
that
could
have
been
approved
by
council
different
from
regular
zoning
code.
A
Instead,
we
can
go
to
the
mc
district
and
use
the
standard
development
standards
and
use
list,
and
that
is
helpful
for
us,
of
course,
but
is
also
very
helpful
for
prospective
buyers
and
property
owners
to
be
able
to
find
that
information
themselves
and
not
have
to
go
through
lengthy
processes
to
change
those
requirements
as
they
become
outdated.
A
So
we
have
119
planning
to
rezone
104,
so
we
still
have
a
handful
left.
The
idea
is
that
we
will
begin
reviewing
them
on
a
yearly
basis,
so
it
will
be
based.
It
will
be
the
identical
review
to
what
we
did
here.
A
So
we
will
check
the
status
of
build
out
for
each
pud,
make
sure
that
none
have
met
any
of
the
four
thresholds
that
we
mentioned
at
the
beginning
and
if
they
have,
then
we
will
present
those
through
the
plan
commission
to
the
council
to
recommend
recommend
rezoning
to
existing
base
zoning
districts
when
that's
appropriate,
and
so
we
will
kind
of
be
resetting
the
pud
review
button
here
and
get
becoming
more
in
line
with
what
the
regulations
had
in
mind.
A
So
I
am
going
to
ask
senior
planner
eric
grulick
if
he
has
anything
to
add
about
the
process
of
of
how
we
identified.
So
that
is
a
general
and
then
a
very
general
discussion
of
how
the
pd
rezone
designations
were
chosen
and
then
very
specific
discussion
about
one.
But
we
may
have
more
comment
kind
of
about
how
how
others
were
done
in
the
city
as
well.
B
Thank
you
jackie.
So
certainly
there
are
a
mix
of
puds
within
the
city
and
and
the
example
that
you
gave
was
the
one
on
north
kinser
in
the
bypass
was
a
commercial
pd.
There
were
also
residential
puds,
so
there
are
a
mix
of
those
beauties
throughout
the
city,
and
so
what
we
tried
to
do
was
look
at
the
approved
standards.
B
B
So
the
reduced
setbacks,
for
instance,
to
reduce
slot
sizes
wouldn't
have
been
allowed
under
those
codes.
So
we
do
have
current
zoning
districts
that
do
allow
for
reduced
setbacks
and
lot
sizes
that
are
more
in
keeping
in
what
match
what's
been
done
on
the
ground.
So
you
know
we
we
basically
use,
like.
I
said
the
use
table
the
development
standards
that
the
development
was
built
around
and
the
comprehensive
plan
to
try
to
match
that
up
to
the
current
zoning
districts
to
the
best
that
we
could.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
yeah
one
thing
that
you
could
see
from
the
zoning
map.
Actually,
let
me
go
back
from
the
proposed
zoning
map.
One
pretty
noticeable
change
is
that
there
is
a
quite
a
bit.
We
had
a
number
of
puds
that
did
not
actually
meet
the
intent
any
longer
of
what
pds
are
supposed
to
be
now
in
our
current
code,
right,
which
is
mixed
use
and
allowing
for
unique
development.
A
So
we
have
a
lot
of
pd's
or
we
have
a
handful
of
large
area
pvs
on
the
east
side,
that
is
basically
single
family
or
slightly
more
intense
than
single
family.
So
we
have
proposed
that
a
number
of
those
be
rezoned
to
r2,
which
is
one
of
our
single-family
residential
districts.
Otherwise,
besides
the
large
kind
of
r2
swath
out
here,
we
have,
of
course
sudbury
on
the
west
side
of
town,
where
we
did.
A
We
had
a
vision
plan
done
for
that
area
with
suggested
zoning
from
our
new
zoning
districts
by
smith,
associate
associates
out
of
indianapolis,
and
so
that
has
been
populated
here
as
well
and
that
pud,
if,
if
this
map
goes
forward
and
is
what
is
approved
by
council,
would
go
away,
allowing
for
immediate
buy
right
development
if
they
could
meet
the
zoning
code
requirements
for
the
districts
we've
recommended,
which
do
include
some
of
the
r4
area
and
other
residential,
and
then
we
have
a
couple
of
some
of
the
pd's.
I'm
I'm
sorry.
A
If
this
is
a
repeat,
I
missed
it.
If
eric
said
this,
but
the
handful
of
beauties
we
did
not
change
were
for
various
reasons.
Some
are
brand
new
or
have
ongoing
development
in
them.
A
So
they
are
still
well
within
the
the
kind
of
expected
predicted
timeline
for
puds
and
others
have
very
complicated
districts
where
it
would
have
district
requirements
where
it
actually
may
have
been,
or
was
it
quite
difficult
to
identify
districts
from
our
zoning
code
that
would
be
able
to
be
replaced
into
those
pud
areas,
so
those
were
left.
So
some
of
those
will
probably
be
around
for
some
time
and
others
are
just
in
different
states
of
development
and
will
be
reviewed
on
the
annual
basis.
A
Okay,
so
that's
what
we
have
for
our
presentation
and
if
you
came
in,
if
you
weren't
here
at
the
beginning,
if
you
have
questions,
that's
great,
we
would
love
to
answer
them.
Please
use
your
chat
function
and
send
questions
to
either
ryan
roebling
or
keegan
gulick,
and
they
will
turn
on
their
mics
and
read
them
aloud
if
they
get
any
and
we
will
do
our
best
to
answer
them
here.
A
If
we
can't
get
them
answered,
we
will
compile
them
and
get
answers
up
on
the
website
as
we're
putting
together
information
to
respond
to
kind
of
all
of
these
information
meetings
and
the
questions
we've
been
getting.
C
First,
one
is:
did
planning
staff
reach
out
to
pd
property
owners
as
part
of
this
process.
A
I
would
say,
on
the
whole,
we
did
not.
We
have
talked
about
it.
There
are
so
many
property
owners
in
the
city
who
are
having
their
zoning
recommended
to
be
changed,
not
just
pud
owners
that
the
general
notice
that
will
go
to
each
property
owner
before
the
plan
commission
process
starts
will
be
the
notice
that
they
get.
A
We
have
had
some
discussions
with
particular
owners
if
we
were
in
discussion
with
them
for
another
reason,
if
we
knew
that
they
were
planning
to
come
forward
with
something
or
they
were
in
discussion
with
us
about
development,
I
think
that
pretty
much
answers
it,
but
eric
if
I
miss
anything,
please
feel
free
to
chime
in.
C
Yeah,
I
have
a
couple
so
same
question
earth
this
one's
from
dave
as
well,
so
y
and
e
for
the
kroger
site.
Instead
of
instead
of
nc
all
right,
I
think
he
got
it
backwards,
but
so
we
have
it
as
nc.
I
think
you
might
be
asking
why
not
me.
B
Well,
so
the
the
employment,
the
mixed
use,
employment
district,
is
supposed
to
be
for
obviously,
high
employment
generating
uses
the
useless
for
that
pud
was
based
on
commercial
and
retail.
It
was
not
a
useless
that
was
based
on
employment.
You
know
this
location
and
the
development
really
lends
itself
more
towards
neighborhoods
serving
commercial
uses.
It's
got
great
access,
so
the
the
useless
really
is
kind
of
what
generated
that
recommendation
for
this
being
mixed
use.
C
B
So
both
of
those
the
brownstone
terrace
and
the
bill
brown
petition
were
requests
to
rezone
a
pud
to
a
current
zoning
district.
So
it's
it's
somewhat
different
than
this
process,
because
that
individual
property
is
being
discussed,
not
the
city.
Zoning
map
as
a
whole,
but
it
still
is
kind
of
the
same
process
has
to
go
to
the
plane.
Commission
has
to
go
to
the
city
council,
so
they
are.
They
are
similar
in
in
some
regards.
A
And
I
think
we've
we've
said
this,
I
think
at
another
meeting,
but
once
the
map
goes
to
council,
they
will
only
be
able
to
approve
it
or
deny
it.
So
they
can't
offer
amendment
so
obviously,
there's
a
lot
more
to
kind
of
iron
out
with,
with
there
being
so
many
properties
involved,
then
there
might
be
on
the
kind
of
one
property
rezone
requests
that
we
usually
get.
C
Yep,
does
the
planning
commission
have
to
take
up
the
zone
map
provisions
all
in
one
go
with
a
single
map
change,
or
could
the
planning
commission
take
up
at
least
two
separate
map
changes,
one
that
would
handle
the
new
r4
district
and
one
that
would
take
care
of
the
pds?
For
example,.
A
Oh,
that's
a
good
question.
I
don't
actually
know
the
answer
to
that
question,
but
we
can
find
out.
A
I
I
don't
know
offhand
because
I
would
say
that's:
atypical
and
the
process
for
a
full
map
or
place
and
repeal
is
different
than
a
smaller
reason,
and
so
what
you're
asked
about
is
kind
of
an
in-between,
so
I'm
not
sure
or
not
the
process,
but
the
oh
shoot.
Yeah.
Let
me
let
let
us
look
into
that
and
we
will
post
that.
A
A
We
see
it
kind
of
as
a
as
part
of
making
sense
as
part
of
a
part
of
a
package
so
like,
for
example,
with
the
mixed
use
student,
how
the
mixes
student
housing
districts,
so
we
I
would
assume,
would
prefer
to
take
it
in
as
whole
cloth
and,
additionally,
if
we
split
them,
I
think
we
probably
could,
but
of
course
it
would
be
two
entirely
separate
processes,
so
it
would
be
like
a
double
notification
of
everyone
in
the
city
double
hearings,
you
know
we
could
we
could
do
that.
A
A
C
A
R4
is
that
it
was
that
a
question?
Okay!
Yes,
yes,
that's
true!
So
we
yes!
So
if
there
are
sticking
points
in
the
map
that
the
council
ultimately
obviously
makes
the
decision,
if
there
are
sticking
points
that
they
can't
come
to
an
agreement
on
then
yes,
if
they
all,
if
it
goes
in
as
one
ordinance,
then
it
would
obviously
stop
the
whole
ordinance.
So
we
the
way
reason
we're
presenting
them
in
this
way
is
because
you
know
kind
of
to
dave's.
A
First
question:
you
know
if
you
are
a
pud
owner
and
you
want
to
ask
questions,
it's
easier,
probably
to
have
these
nights
where
it's
just
about
the
beauties
and
there's
only
you
know
25
of
us
here
then
asking
those
questions
at
a
meeting
where
there's
100
people
and
they're
almost
all
there
to
ask
questions
about.
A
You
know
residential
uses,
so
so
they're
split
up
in
these
kind
of
information
sessions
just
to
maybe
give
more
opportunity
to
people
who
have
questions
about
the
less
popular
changes
or
are
not
popular
but
the
less
less
discussed
changes
in
the
community
and
but
yes,
they
will
go
through
as
one.
D
Yes,
I
do
have
a
question
great.
This
question
is:
is
it
possible
to
rezone
part
of
a
pud
and
are
there
any
examples
of
that.
A
A
It's
potentially
not
possible,
so
we
are
actually
looking
into
that
currently
for
some
for
a
petition
that
is
coming
forward
in
the
next
couple
months
to
plan
commission,
that's
not
something
that
we've
really
done
in
the
past
and
we
are
hesitant
because
you
know
when
you
take
a
plan
unit
development
to
counsel
again,
they
see
it
as
a
whole
piece
and
when
you
you
know
they
may
be
approving
it
because
they
like
the
way
it
works.
A
The
synergy
of
all
the
uses
that
are
proposed
or
the
design
or
you
know
just
that
there
are
a
lot
of
factors
that
go
into
an
approval
or
denial.
So
if
it's
approved,
we
kind
of
see
it
as
one
package.
A
So
then,
when
you
start
asking
to
change
little
pieces
in
that
it
kind
of
we're
a
little
bit,
hesitant
and
legal
is
currently
kind
of
looking
into
whether
or
not
that's
actually
even
possible.
Our
code
doesn't
make
it
super
clear
that
it
is
so
yeah.
That's
a
good
question,
we're
not
sure
of
the
answer,
but
we
should
know
soon.
C
Okay,
I
have
a
question
from
ann
and
says:
is
there
a
complete
list
of
puds
that
are
being
rezoned
and
a
list
of
those
that
are
staying
as
a
pd.
A
This
is
that
is
what
this
list
is,
so
it
has
the
names
how
the
pds
are
identified,
their
pud
id
number.
What
year
the
last
time
they
had
a
petition
go
forward
and
then
the
zoning
district
that
we
recommended
and
then
a
comment
about
what
their?
What
is
at
the
site,
but
you
can
see
in
the
list.
So
we
have
the
recommended
zoning
districts,
but
you
can
see
some
of
them
say,
leave
as
pud
or
keep
this
pud.
A
Those
are
the
two
tags
that
we
used
for
that
so
yeah.
That
list
you
can
get
to
through
the
story
map
and
then,
when
you
are
on
the
map,
oh
ryan,
did
I
do
this
right?
Let's
see
hold
on
oh
yeah,
when
you
click
on
one
of
the
more
colorful,
so
the
non-grayed
out
or
the
beauties
and
when
you
click
on
them
and
you
hold
on
hide.
C
A
It
shows
you
the
pud
number
here
at
the
bottom,
and
so
you
can
then
go
to
the
list
and
find
which
one.
That
is
so
I
mentioned
that
because
you
know,
when
you
look
at
the
list
you
might,
you
might
not
know
you
might
not
be
calling
the
place
that
that
you
live
or
interested
in
the
name
that
was
used
when
it
got
approved
in
you,
know
1988.
A
But
you
should
be
able
to
find
that
pud
number
by
clicking
on
the
property
that
you're
interested
in
and
then
cross
referencing
it
to
the
table
to
find
whether
or
not
or
what
it's
being
proposed
to
be
rezoned
to
or
whether
or
not
it
isn't
being
proposed
or
whether,
whether
it's
not
being
proposed.
A
Okay,
so
for
reference
I
just
want
to
remind
people
that
we
do
have
the
udo
zoning
map
public
outreach
draft
website.
That's
probably
how
most
of
you
found
this
meeting,
but
we
will
be
we'll
put
the
presentations
up
after
after
the
meeting
and
then
other
resources.
So
our
meetings,
our
general
information
meetings,
these
meetings
will
be
over
next
week
and
then
the
public.
We
expect
that
the
public
hearing
process
for
plan
commission
will
start
at
the
end
of
january
2021.
A
So
in
that
time
we
will
be
sharing
resources
and
compiling
questions
and
putting
answers
up
on
this
website,
so
it
will
continue
to
grow
even
after
these
meetings
are
over,
and
so
we
ask
there
will
be
right
now.
The
mixed
use
student
housing
zoning
district
feedback
form
is
up
on
the
website.
After
thursday
a
new
one
will
go
up
that
will
be
for
puds
and
the
plex
r4
discussion,
and
we
ask
that
you
do
get
on
and
answer
those.
A
It
helps
us
to
be
able
to
compile
that
information
while
we're
looking
at
changes
that
will
be
made.
So
the
draft
that
is
out
now
is
just
a
draft
and
we
do
expect
that
some
changes
will
be
made
both
by
by
staff
and
plan
commission
before
it
goes
to
council
brian.
Did
you
get
another
question.
C
Yeah,
so
I
had
another
question:
it's
about
the
big
great
blob
in
the
middle
of
the
map-
that's
at
least
partially
the
thompson
ped.
So
they
wanted
to
know
if
dave
wanted
to
know
if
that
was
all
the
thompson
pd
or
only
part,
and
if
all
of
the
thompson
pd,
how
did
it
get
that
large?
Was
it
expand
through
expansions
or
was
it
all
done
in
one
as
it
was
for
the
habitat
project.
B
Sure,
no,
so
the
thompson
pud
size
of
what
you
see
there
is
exactly
what
was
approved
with
the
overall
thompson
pd
back
in
the
90s.
There
was
a
small
portion
over
on
the
southwest
side
there
that
was
added
just
recently
for
the
the
habitat
project,
but
overall,
that's
that
is
the
size
of
the
thompson
pd.
It
was
a
very
large
factory,
very
large
amount
of
area
that
that
was
taken
up.
So
that
is
something
that
we
are
looking
at
rezoning
to
current
zoning
districts
and
expiring
that
pud
as
well.
A
A
Yes,
we
are
looking
at
including
that
as
well.
We,
as
eric
mentioned,
you
know
it's
quite
old,
it's
a
little.
It's
pretty
complicated
part
of.
It
was
also
in
the
schmidt
sudbury
vision
plan,
and
so
we
have
that
we
have
part
of
it
mapped
out
in
that
way,
but
we
are
still
looking
at
that
that
will
potentially
very
likely
be
show
as
zones
when
this
goes
forward
to
plan
commission.
D
I
did
receive
a
question:
it's
about
the
r4
zoning
district,
more
so
than
puds,
but
I
guess
or
whatever
you.
D
Sure
so,
this
question
is
from
laura:
why
the
push
to
rezone
the
residential
neighborhoods
when
so
many
are
against
the
development
of
multiplex
rental
units
are
for
especially
in
their
neighborhood
and
also
if
the
goal
is
to
create
more
sustainable
housing
and
reduce
carbon
footprint,
thereby
addressing
climate
change
and
global
warming.
Where's.
The
proposal
to
require
new
multiplex
dwellings
to
be
carbon
neutral.
A
Okay,
yeah,
so
those
are
good
and
fair
questions.
I
actually
don't
know
if
that
person's.
Still
in
here,
oh
I
see
you,
I
see
you
sorry,
I
thought
you'd
left.
Yes,
we,
I
would
encourage
you.
Those
are
some
very
big
questions
right
about
our
four
and
we
will
this.
We
do
want
to
discuss
them.
A
A
I
think
I
can't
remember
if,
on
the
website,
if
it
says
our
forum
plexus
for
thursday,
but
obviously
they're
very
intertwined,
I
would
direct
you
to
direct
you
to
the
website
to
look
at
the
housing
diversity
story,
map
which
answers,
I
think,
a
little
bit
of
some
of
your
questions,
but
we
will
definitely
get
way
more
into
those
in
the
coming
meetings
and,
additionally,
of
course,
once
this
actually
goes
to
public
hearings.
The
quick
answer
is,
you
know.
We
still
think
that
that
it's
the
right
thing
to
do.
A
We
under
we
hear
the
concerns.
We
understand
what
they
are.
We
think
and
hope
that
some
of
them
can
be
addressed
and
that
adding
an
option
for
plexus
in
the
resident,
primarily
residential
areas
of
bloomington
it
work,
goes
a
long
way
as
part
of
a
large
group
of
proposals
and
programs
to
help
address
some
of
the
issues
that
you
mentioned,
and
yes,
maybe
there
is
more
that
can
be
done
for
environmental
regulation
as
well,
and
that
is
something
we
can
look
into
too.
A
A
This
presentation
will
go
up
if
you
have
other
interested
parties
who
couldn't
be
here
today
that
you
know
of
it
will
be
on
the
website
and
as
well
as
the
story
map
will
be
on
the
website
that
I
went
through
and
as
we
did
with
the
ms,
I
think
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
go
through
it
again
for
those
of
you
who
aren't
here
at
the
beginning,
and
then
we
can
do
questions
if
you
have
any
oh
keegan,
did
you
have
another
question.
A
Sorry,
no
it's
okay
and
then
we
we
can
do
more
questions
and
we'll
staff
will
kind
of
hang
around
to
answer
those
as
well
as
just
in
case.
Anybody
comes
late
with
questions
so
with
that.
If
there
are
no
more
questions
right
now,
I
will
go
ahead
and
go
through
the
story
map
again.
A
Okay,
so
tonight's
discussion
is
about
the
proposed
plan
unit
development
ring
zones,
which
is
part
of
the
zoning
map
proposed
zoning
map
that
we
are
doing
with
the
update.
The
full
update
of
the
unified
development
ordinance.
A
Excuse
me
that
could
not
otherwise
be
accomplished
through
regular
zoning
districts
right.
So
if
someone
has
identified
a
particular
set
of
uses,
they're
interested
in
or
site
design
that
isn't
going
to
be
allowed,
then
council
is
allowed
to
look
look
at
those
requests
through
plan
unit
development
process
and
see
if
they
meet
the
goals
of
the
community
and
those
that
are
required
for
plan
unit
developments
and
can
approve
what
basically
amounts
to
a
small
zoning
code
for
those
lots.
A
So
this
story,
map
in
particular,
is,
as
I
said,
about
the
proposed
changes
to
the
existing
pds
and
then
I'll
go
through
an
example
in
a
little
bit
about
how
we
came
to
the
zoning
districts
that
we
are
proposing
and
then
here's
a
little
descript
little
description
here
about
how
you
can
use
the
story
map
to
go
through
and
look
through
the
pud
areas.
It's
similar
if
you've
done
some
of
the
other
ones.
A
You
can
use
this
expand
tool
in
the
upper
right
and
that
hides
kind
of
the
text
and
you're
able
to,
and
you
can
you're
able
to
get
to
the
map
better
without
it
being
covered,
and
you
can
use
the
zoom
of
course,
and
then
you
can
also
use
the
magnifying
glass
in
the
top
left
to
find
particular
addresses.
A
A
So
why
are
we
proposing
to
rezone
puddies
in
the
first
place,
so
the
unified
development
ordinance
was
written
with
the
expectations
that
puds
would
be
expired
or
rezoned
to
base
districts
at
some
point
when
they
met
certain
thresholds
or
after
a
period
of
inactivity
or
if
the
pd
has
changed
in
some
way.
That's
no
longer
operating
within
the
guidelines
of
that
pud,
so
beauties
are
eligible
for
expiration
or
rezone.
If
any
of
the
following
triggers
occur,
at
least
95
percent
of
pud
has
been
built
out.
A
So
basically,
you
know
the
pud
is
planned
for
final
plans
or
people
call
them
site
plans
are,
are
approved
and
built,
and
the
pud
has
met
the
intent
of
the
original
request
when
a
preliminary
plan,
which
is
what
crea
creates
the
pd,
along
with
the
district
ordinance,
shall
be
considered
abandoned
if,
three
years
after
the
approval,
no
final
plan
or
site
plan,
which
is
what
the
final
plan
is,
has
been
granted
or
if,
ten
years
after
the
approval,
some
final
plans
have
been
granted,
but
there
are
sections
that
remain
without
them
and
then,
finally,
as
I
said
before,
if
a
pud
is
no
longer
proceeding
in
accordance
with
the
original
district,
ordinance
or
commitments
or
time
requirements
that
were
imposed
by
council,
initially
so
of
the
119,
we
have,
we
are
proposing
to
rezone
104
and
they
they
each
at
least
fall
under
at
least
one
of
those
triggers.
A
So
the
reason
that
we're
proposing
to
do
it
as
part
of
the
zoning
map
update
is,
as
I
mentioned
code,
does,
want
us
to
regularly
review
them
as
staff
and
expire
them,
and
that
has
been
a
very
difficult
task
in
the
past.
A
We
have
all
paper
files
going
back,
obviously
decades
and
decades,
and
that
some
of
these
pd's
have
been
amended
many
times,
and
so
it's
a
laborious
process
to
kind
of
do
the
things
that
need
to
be
done
to
verify
these
puds
and
one
of
those
that
has
improved
over
the
years
is
being
able
to
check
for
95
build
out.
So
you
would
you
still
need
to
review
all
the
case
files
and
check
for
building
permits
and
but
instead
of
having
to
visit
each
site
separately.
A
We
now,
of
course,
are
able
to
use
our
access,
easy
access
to
ortho
photography
to
see
what
has
been
built
and,
of
course,
you
know
having
some
of
our
files
digitized,
which
we're
in
the
process
of
having
all
of
our
files
done
has
been
helpful
as
well.
So
that
makes
it
a
little
bit
easier
and
then
the
second
thing
is
that
we
have
to
send
notice,
obviously,
of
course,
to
the
entire
city
for
the
zoning
map
update
and
we
would
have
to
send
notice
as
well
for
a
reason
of
the
puds.
A
So,
in
order
to
do
that
in
a
more
efficient
way
to
include
it
during
the
zoning
map,
update
makes
sense
to
include
it
all
as
one
notice,
one
full
repeal
and
replace
of
the
map,
including
the
pud
sections,
is
cleaner
and
less
expensive,
obviously,
of
course,
for
the
taxpayer
and
maybe
easier
to
understand
for
the
property
owners
involved
as
well.
A
So
we
are
going
to
I'm
going
to
briefly
talk
about
an
example.
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we
have
a
lot
of
beauties
in
town
119..
This
one,
for
example,
is
a
one
one
lot
pud,
so
this
pud
is
at
kinser
in
the
bypass
and
there's
the
kroger
was
approved.
I'm
sorry,
there's
a
kroger
located
there.
It
was
approved
by
plan
commission
in
1991
and
the
idea
of
the
planning
development.
A
So
the
site
plan
that
was
included
with
that
pud
and
later
approved
with
the
development
plan
showed
a
grocery
anchor
store
on
the
west
and
an
area
for
a
smaller
scale.
Commercial
development
on
the
east
with
a
parking
lot
area
in
the
center
facing
the
bypass.
A
So
that
was
the
site
plan
and
then
puds
are
also
often
designed
with
particular
use
regulations
and
the
way
that
that
works
typically,
is
that
the
petitioner
will
use
the
uses
listed
in
the
zoning
code
at
that
time
to
create
a
list
of
those
uses
that
they
desire
to
have
at
the
site.
So
they
in
some
instances
when
it's
a
you
know,
multi-property
plan
unit
development.
A
They
may
be
able
to
identify
some
lots
as,
for
example,
mc
zoning
and
other
lots
mm,
and
then
we
would
use
the
zoning
code
at
that
time
to
look
at
the
uses
allowed
for
those
district
names
and
know
that
they
intended
to
have
those
in
the
separate
on
the
separate
lots.
What
often
happens
in
puds
is
that
they
will
add
uses
that
don't
appear
in
particular
districts
or
delete
uses,
so
each
pud
typically
ends
up
with
its
own
use
list.
A
So
again
that
is
separate
from
the
zoning
code
and
only
approved
for
that
particular
pud.
And
then
the
zoning
code
changes
over
time
so
for
this
pd
to
have
been
approved
in
1991,
the
useless
that
was
even
the
base
before
they
changed.
A
It
has
changed
quite
a
bit,
so
this
pud
features
a
list
of
land
uses
that
would
be
allowed
in
area
a
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
lot,
and
then
they
also
have
a
restriction
on
maximum
square
footage
for
those
uses,
which
is
not
something
from
our
current
code
or
that
that
has
lived
through
to
our
current
code.
So,
basically,
every
time
a
prospective
user
wants
to
go
in
there
and
they
want
to
see
if
the
use
that
they
have
is
allowed.
A
There's
nowhere
simple
for
them
to
find
that
answer.
They
have
to
go
through
staff
who
has
to
pull
the
the
old
information
and
make
sure
and
let
them
know
if
what
they're
asking
to
do
is
allowed
another
little
hurdle
to.
That
is
that
some
of
these
puds
have
excluded
useless
as
well,
and
a
lot
of
these
uses
listed
here
no
longer
exist
in
the
zoning
code,
so
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
difficult
to
compare
and
contrast
the
zoning
codes
over
time.
A
So
that
goes
obviously,
of
course,
also
for
the
allowed
use
table
as
well,
so
during
this
process
that
we're
proposing
all
of
those
kind
of
hiccups
for
that
stall
development
or
make
due
diligence
difficult
for
property
owners
would
go
away
because
they
would
be
able
to
use
the
regular
zoning
code
and
use
the
useless
for
each
district
listed
there.
A
The
other
issue
is
that
a
lot
of
planning
unit
developments
also
have
development
standard
restrictions.
A
Some
again
are
particular
to
the
to
the
property
that
maybe
they
didn't
even
get
from
the
code
at
the
time,
but
others
do
come
from
the
code
at
the
time,
and
sometimes
those
older
regulations
no
longer
meet
the
goals
of
our
current
long-range
plans,
for
example,
our
current
comprehensive
plan
or
other
priorities
that
have
kind
of
taken
the
limelight
more
in
regulation,
since
the
original
pdu
is
approved,
so,
for
example,
environmental
goals
or
architectural
goals.
A
So
in
this
example,
the
required
minimum
setback
allows
that
parking
or
basically
requires
that
parking
be
in
front
of
the
primary
structure
that
it
that
has
not
been.
That
is
not
conducive
with
our
udo
and
has
not
been
since
at
least
2007,
where
we,
as
a
community,
have
been
trying
to
push
building
forward,
push
the
buildings
forward
on
a
lot
with
parking
hidden
in
the
back,
but
because
this
pud
has
its
own
set
of
regulations.
A
Any
new
development
that
would
go
in
under
the
pud
would
have
to
meet
these
requirements
unless
they
went
through
council
to
have
those
changed
and
again
it
just
makes
it
difficult
for
developers,
especially
some
who
may
know
may
be
familiar
with
using
zoning
codes.
Go
to
the
zoning
code,
for
example,
and
see
that
we
are
promoting
building
forward
all
over
town
in
the
commercial
areas
and
then
once
contacting
staff
finding
out
that
actually,
these
old
beauties
don't
support
that
and
that
they
have
separate
regulations
that
can
make
that
difficult.
A
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
pds
are
actually
not
intended
to
exist
in
perpetuity.
We
have
guidelines
for
expirations
and
we
with
the
process
of
going
through
this
process
of
identifying
the
puds.
We
came
up
again
with
104
puds,
which
are
eligible.
We
think
for
re-zone,
based
on
the
four
criteria
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
A
A
So,
for
example,
the
original
goal
of
this
beauty,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
was
to
create
a
grocery
store
and
allow
for
development
of
other
neighborhood
serving
commercial
spaces
on
the
east.
A
comprehensive
plan
identifies
this
area's
urban
corridor,
which
allows
and
expects
development
of
commercial
and
mixed
use,
and
the
department
identified
the
zoning
district
mixed
use
corridor
which
most
closely
align
with
the
goals
of
the
original
pud
and
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
we
are
recommending
rezone
2
mixed
use
corridor
for
this
pud,
so
it
would.
A
What
it
is
helpful
for
into
the
future
is
that
if
this
lot
were
to
redevelop
or
any
additional
develop,
for
example,
an
outlook
being
created
or
something
were
to
be
done,
then
we
would
have
much
cleaner
regulations
for
a
potential
developer
to
use
to
know
what
is
expected
of
that
development
as
opposed
to
having
to
go
back
and
explain
to
them
the
pud
that
was
created
30
years
ago
and
that
they
needed
to
follow
those
requirements.
A
Instead,
we
can
just
direct
them
to
the
udo
and
they
can
find
the
answers
there.
A
So
there
are
about
15
puds
that
we
did
not
recommend
to
be
rezoned
at
this
time
and
for
various
reasons,
some
are
fairly
new
and
most
of
the
ones
that
we
recommended
are
or
all
of
the
ones
that
we
recommended
to
stay
are
either
new
or
they
have
a
fairly
new
development
in
them
or
their
regulations
are
so
complicated
that
at
this
time
there
didn't
appear
to
be
a
way
to
apply
the
typical
zoning
districts
to
those
areas
of
the
pud,
so
those
that
are
under
current
development
or
recently
approved.
A
We
will
then
review
yearly
to
see
if
they've
met
any
of
those
four
thresholds
we
talked
about
at
the
beginning
and
if
they
have,
we
will
do
the
same
review
process
that
we
did
for
the
for
the
pu
for
the
104
puds
and
we
will
recommend
to
counsel
a
rezone
to
an
existing
base
district
based
on
that
review
and
what
seems
appropriate
for
those.
A
Here
so
you
can
see
on
this
map.
The
gray
areas
are
those
that
remain
pud,
so
some
up
here
in
the
north
and
then
thompson,
which
was
pointed
out
earlier
in
the
questions
which
this
very
likely
will
become
zoning
districts.
In
the
proposal
that
goes
to
plan
commission.
A
D
I
have
a
question
jackie
great.
This
is
from
emily
from
the
ht
she
asks.
Does
the
udo
allow
for
puds
to
be
designated
in
the
future
if
such
an
opportunity
would
arise.
A
Yes,
so
great
question,
I
should
have
said
that,
yes,
we
still
have
a
pud
section
and
in
the
udo-
and
it's
still
very
much
an
option.
It's
different
that
some
of
the
regulations
have
changed
from
previous
udo
regula
I
mean
excuse
me
previous
pdu
allowance,
pud
allowance
regulations,
but
it's
definitely
still
an
option
for
property
in
the
future.
A
Okay,
I'm
just
going
to
show
again
the
website
and
then,
if
you
all,
don't
have
questions,
staff
will
probably
just
hang
around
in
case
people
come
late
or
if
you
think
of
things
and
feel
free
to
ask.
A
Is
okay,
so
here
is
the
website.
Bloomington.Ian.Gov
planning,
slash
udo,
slash
map
updates
and
these
information
sessions
will
be
over
next
week.
This
is
not
part
of
the
public
hearing
process.
A
This
is
just
a
public
outreach
that
we
wanted
to
get
feedback
on
the
map
and
the
text
amendments
that
we
are
planning
to
propose
some
version
of
to
plan
commission
at
the
beginning
of
next
year,
so
those
meetings
will
be
over,
but
this
website
will
stay
live
and
we
will
be
adding
information
and
an
analysis
as
we're
getting
those
things
done
and
also
responses
to
questions
that
we
receive
from
the
public
through
the
website
and
from
the
meetings
that
we've
had.
Those
will
go
here
as
well.
A
These
presentations
and
the
story
maps
will
be
here
also,
so
please
do
visit
that
right
now
we
have
our
mixed
use:
student
housing,
zoning
district
feedback
form
up
that
will
stay
up
through
thursday,
and
then
we
will
change
that
to
a
feedback
form
addressing
this
meeting
and
the
our
fourplex
meetings
either
at
the
end
of
the
week
or
potentially
after
the
second,
our
fourplex
meeting
might
make
more
sense
to
wait,
so
that
will
be
changing
sometime
shortly.
A
If
no
one
else
has
any
questions,
we
will
just
hang
around
to
see
if
anything
comes
up,
and
otherwise
please
do
come
back
and
join
us
on
thursday,
at
5
30,
for
questions
related
for
presentation
related
to
the
plexes
and
our
for
discussion,
and
we
are
sure
to
have
be
sure
to
have
lots
of
questions
there
as
well,
and
we
look
forward
to
those
additional
meetings.
So
sorry,
one
on
thursday,
one
on
next
monday
and
then
a
meeting
next
tuesday
related
to
other
text
amendments
that
we
will
likely
bring
forward
to
plan
commission.