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B
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C
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A
A
B
F
All
right,
pardon
me,
I,
didn't
think
that
I
was
here
when
you
did
a
roll
call.
I
was
finished
up
a
phone
call,
so
pardon
pardon
me
just
real
quick
on
the
reports.
The
we
get
back
to
commissioner
Cassidy
on
a
couple
on
one
thing,
with
the
property
that
we
sold
last
year.
1306
was
Kirkwood.
I
spoke
to
the
owner
about
that,
and
that
will
be
and
torn
down.
F
We
believe,
and
probably
two
to
five
weeks
he
was
waiting
on
his
demolition
contractor
to
to
be
ready,
and
so
that
is
demolition
there,
as
eminent
also
wanted
to
report
to
the
Commissioners
that
we
are
going
to
talk
to
the
developer.
That
is
sort
of
untapped
to
read
about
the
core
building.
F
You
all
approved
action
on
the
core,
building
being
ready
for
a
low
income
housing
tax
for
the
project
at
the
end
of
July,
we're
going
to
be
working
with
them
on
getting
the
agreement
going
that
you
all
had
I
had
looked
at
to
proved
some
language
sort
of,
in
the
spirit
of
of
that.
So
we'll
move
forward
on
that
as
we
get
through
the
next
couple
months.
F
I
also
want
to
let
you
know
in
the
public
that
our
our
annual
report
for
the
U.S
Housing
and
Urban
Development
Department
and
the
Consolidated
annual
report
of
our
performance
in
managing
our
home
and
our
community
development
block
grant
dollars.
That
sort
of
is
reflective
of
our
annual
action
plan
for
the
year
at
a
program
year.
2022
is
up
for
public
comment
on
our
website,
there's
also
a
hard
copy
at
City
Holland
in
the
library.
So
that's
all
for
my
report.
Thank
you.
Get
there
any
questions.
G
H
Trade
Park
recertification
program
we'll
get
to
that
resolution
later
on
in
the
agenda.
The
other
two
things
I
can
report
are:
is
I,
attended
a
bedc
board
meeting
last
week
and
they're
working
on
an
updated
promotion
and
branding
plan
and
they're
very
excited
to
do
some
more
integral
work
with
the
city,
so
I'm
excited
to
pursue
that
with
them
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
flag.
So
we're
working
with
the
mill
to
do
some
activities
for
the
five-year
celebration
anniversary
of
their
it's
going
to
be
Innovation
week.
H
It's
going
to
be
the
first
week
of
October,
so
they're
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
different
activities
celebrating
what
has
happened
there
so
far,
but
we're
also
going
to
be
celebrating
some
things
that
are
going
to
be
happening
in
the
very
near
future.
So
look
forward
to
more
detailed
announcements
about
that
soon
and
that's
what
I've
got.
F
I
feel
like
I'm,
interrupting
I,
can't
hear
you
and
you
don't
condemn
codes
so
I
wonder
it's
not
just
on
my
end
and
so
just
for
public
meeting
purposes.
I
didn't
know
if
there
were
if
I
was
having
else
was
having
audio
problems.
I
F
Gonna
log
off
I'm,
sorry,
everyone
for
the
convenience.
F
Right,
I'm,
gonna,
all
right,
I'll
drop
and
resolve
that
so
I
can
hear
you
all
and
welcome
to
the
audience
and
everyone
else.
So
let
me
try
to
figure
this
out.
On
my
end,.
K
Yes,
I
would
be
happy
to
so
just
a
a
quick
update.
Today
we
are
continuing
to
review
the
proposals
from
the
blocks:
eight,
nine
and
ten,
the
RFI
just
a
reminder
to
the
RDC.
That
is
a
request
for
information,
so
the
request
of
information
is
really
to
determine
whether
we
have
potential
proposals
that
could
respond
to
a
public
offering
which
would
be
the
legal
process.
We
would
go
through
moving
that
forward.
So
when
the
evaluation
tube
feels
that
there
is
substantial
enough
information
for
that,
we
would
then
take
that
to
Administration.
K
Administration
would
make
a
recommendation
to
the
RDC
to
enter
into
a
public
offering
so
in
the
next
month
or
so
I
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
give
you
some
of
those
dates
of
when
we
expect
that
to
happen.
So
that's
very
exciting
I
would
say
the
other
thing
that
just
to
touch
on
is
the
work
that
u3
is
doing.
K
We
are
getting
closer
to
having
an
RFI
for
blocks,
one
two
and
three
ready
to
go
on
the
street
for
issuance
for
an
RFI,
so
think
about
this
in
multiple
paths
as
we're
at
the
same
time
that
we're
reviewing
and
considering
whether
we
want
it
ready
to
move
into
a
public
offering
for
blocks
eight,
nine
and
ten.
We
are
also
getting
ready
to
release
the
RFI
for
one
two
and
three,
which
is
the
the
parcels
or
the
blocks
that
are
right
along
the
B-Line.
K
So
that's
a
that's
going
to
be
very
exciting
as
well.
Both
of
those
things
were
on
the
schedule
that
I
shared
at
the
last
meeting
with
the
from
you
three
that,
in
terms
of
the
work
that
they're
doing
so
I,
wasn't
going
to
share
that
schedule
again
today.
But
it
is
consistent
with
that.
We
also
talked
last
meeting
about
the
fact
that
we
were
expecting
very
soon.
We
would
be
asked
by
IU
Health
to
begin
our
due
diligence
period
on
the
final
Parcels
of
land
on
the
Legacy
Hospital
site.
K
So
we
have
received
that
documentation
and
we
are
in
the
process
of
queuing
up
our
consultants
and
our
internal
staff
team
with
a
series
of
due
diligence
items
starting
on
Wednesday
of
this
week.
So
our
final
due
diligence
phase
before
that
final
transfer,
conveyance
of
property
is
beginning
officially
as
of
Wednesday.
So
the
last
item
is
I
will
just
mention
that
we
do
have
a
in
one
of
the
resolutions.
We
have
a
change
order
for
Phase
One
East.
K
We
will
be
bringing
back
some
other
conversations
to
the
commission
here
in
the
coming
meetings
about
a
phase
one
East
and
contingency,
and
how
do
we
handle
change
orders
in
the
future?
So
just
know,
as
you
hear
that
resolution
today,
that
kind
of
information
is
going
to
be
coming
back
to
you
and
they'll
be
probably
consistent
questions
around.
How
do
we
handle
things
when
they
come,
whether
there's
environmental
other
items
that
come
up
that
may
need
Associated
funding
so
more
to
come
on
that
as
we
continue
to
move
through
our
first
construction
project.
D
Dev
in
regards
to
the
acquisition
of
the
existing
Hospital
site
since
they've
already
torn
down
and
had
everything
and
our
rain
that
occurred
last
week,
we
had
quite
a
bit
of
runoff
in
regards
to
coming
down
off
of
First
Street,
which
was
creating
an
issue
at
the
intersection
of
first
and
Rogers.
It
was
causing
the
traffic
to
actually
stop
because
of
the
amount
of
water
that
was
coming
off
of
the
site
just
behind
the
core
building.
D
K
That
it
will
as
well
I
do
know
that
there
was
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
I
haven't
heard
that
I.
L
K
D
Yeah
they
haven't,
they
had
not
graded
it
as
a
you
know
what
Saturday
so,
okay,
but
it
was
running
down.
It
was
running
behind
the
court
coming
off
of
the
grass
behind
the
core
building
and
creating
a
stream
that
was
going
down
on
First
Street,
and
it
was
puddling
at
the
intersection
of
first
and
Rogers
and
giving
the
traffic
pause
to
even
go
through.
J
A
A
And
John
is
this
one,
something
that
we
need
to
consider
in
a
future
meeting
I
didn't
see
any
materials
regarding
it.
F
M
Thanks
Sean
thanks
Commissioners
yeah,
as
we
had
talked
about
our
previous
meeting
with
the
ccrs
based
on
the
feedback
we
had
from
commission
members
and
and
frankly,
all
of
us
agree
that
we
wanted
to
do
this
in
concert
with
the
agreement
with
CBU
for
the
storm
water.
They
have
a
I
believe
that
Vic
has
taken
that
through
the
mou
through
the
CBU
process,
but
we
still
need
to
bring
it
to
the
RDC,
so
we're
anticipate
doing
doing
that
at
the
next
meeting
and
dealing
with
the
ccrs
at
the
same
time.
B
B
B
A
Right,
we
have
a
first
and
a
second
a
postpone
resolution,
23-57
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye
aye.
Anyone
opposed
all
right.
Thank
you.
Next
item
of
business
resolution,
23-62
approval
to
increase
emergency
home
repair
project
at
1600,
Willis
Drive,
Lot,
128
who'd,
like
to
speak
in
regards
to
this.
F
N
This
is
a
project
where
we
are
rebuilding
a
deck
and
a
ramp
and
all
those
kinds
of
things.
This
is
the
progress
that
we've
had
so
far,
and
this
is
what
this
is.
What
we're
asking
for
on
this
one.
We
were
just
going
to
repair
that
deck
and
repair
the
railings,
but
when
we're
getting
into
it,
we're
finding
out
it's
so
dilapidated
that
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
just
replace
the
whole
railing
in
all
of
the
deck
just
some
of
the
photos
before
and
after.
N
If
you
folks
want
to
see
them
and
the
total
cost
of
that
would
be
to
rebuild
the
railings
and
that
one
replace
all
the
deck
boards
and
there's
two
concrete
Piers
under
this
building
and
also
need
to
be,
you
know,
beefed
up
and
redone,
so
the
total
that
is
4827
and
that's
what
we're
asking
for.
A
B
Get
a
button
proposed
to
a
proof
resolution
2362
as
written.
A
J
O
Hi
I'm
Catherine
Zager
assistant
director,
environmental,
at
cvu.
This
is
the
mou
between
CBU
and
Redevelopment
commission,
where
cvu
will
be
contributing
funds
from
our
green
infrastructure
fund
for
the
development
of
the
green
roof
on
the
tech
center
at
trades.
District
willing
to
take
any
questions.
B
O
J
A
O
O
That's
pretty
new
because
we
haven't
had
one
of
these
before
I
would
guess
around
anywhere
from
25
to
50
would
be
my
guess,
educated.
C
And
so
I
see
in
item
three
of
the
mou
that
CBU
would
be
making
a
one-time
contribution
to
the
RDC
of
310
or.
B
O
Yeah,
how
did
we
get
to
that
number
yeah?
Yes,
so
the
whole
cost
of
the
roof
was
estimated
to
be
400
000
and
we
subtracted
the
amount
that
it
would
cost
to
do:
detention
in
water
quality
without
the
green
roof.
So
we
wanted
to
support
the
green
infrastructure,
but
if
it
were
taken
off
of
the
roof
there
would
be
a
cost
to
do
the
water
quality
and
detention
requirements.
C
O
M
This
is
just
no
I'm
sorry,
this
is
just
a
construction,
it's
basically
the
Delta
between
doing
a
green
room
versus
doing
a
standard,
conventional
route,
and
so
the
you
know
the
green
roof.
All
in
is,
you
know
around
428
000.,
but
if
we
offset
the
beginning
with
Greenery,
there's
other
additional
kind
of
storm
water
detention
Investments
we
have
to
make.
So
we
just
looked
at
the
difference
between
the
what
would
actually
cost
to
do
the
green
roof
as
opposed
to
The,
Standard
Group.
So
there's
some
offsets
what
you
know.
E
O
I
mean
I
think
the
maintenance
of
a
green
roof
compared
to
a
regular
roof
would
be
a
lot
more,
but
I
think
the
the
better
comparison
would
be
between
a
green
roof
and
other
storm
water
infrastructure.
So
every
law
is
required
to
have
storm
water,
detention
and
water,
qual
and
meat
water
quality
standards.
So
every
lot
would
have
like
every
parcel.
That's
developed
over
a
certain
amount
has
to
have
these
things,
and
so
it
would
have
to
have
maintenance
that
goes
along
with
that.
So.
E
As
the
analysis
been
done
for
this
project,
because
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
the
numbers
to
compare
just
because
it's
the
RDC
that's
committing
to
the
lifetime
repair
and
maintenance
and
certainly
I
understand
they're,
maybe
not
strictly.
You
know
trying
to
find
like
terms
to
compare,
would
like
to
know
what
they
are.
If
I'm
voting
to
support
that
cost.
L
Phil
beaten
engineering
CPU,
we
we
have
recently
put
some
numbers
together
for
the
existing
underground
detention
and
hydrogen
Dynamic
separators
that
are
in
the
trades,
District
I
think
that's,
probably
the
the
one
that
got
postponed.
That's
on
your
agenda
for
the
next,
so
we're
putting
some
numbers
together
for
that
they're,
roughly
20
000
a
year
annually
for
those
two
structures
to
clean
them
to
regularly
maintain
them,
require
the
backer
truck
several
hours
with
a
crew
and
then
hauling
that
material.
That's
removed,
sedimentation
of
trash,
floatables
off
site,
and
so
sometimes
there's
some
camera
work.
B
It
was
a
little
more
sophisticated
to
maintain
this
green
roof
in
as
opposed
to
the
standard,
stormwater
maintenance.
So
do
we
have
to
do
some
training
of
people
to
pay
for
people
to
have
training
and
as
that
staff
comes
and
goes
continual
training,
so
people
are
up
on
that
particular
thing.
First
question
second
is:
does
the
country
or
North
America
or
the
world
have
a
history
of
green
roof,
stormwater
retention
and
runoff?
Is
it
brand
a
brand
new
technology?
B
O
I
feel
like
I
I,
think
green
roofs
have
been
around
for
a
while
now,
in
fact
there
but
I
think
the
technology
has
really
improved
a
lot,
especially
in
probably
the
last
10
20
years.
I
know
that
IU
had
a
green
roof
for
a
while,
but
that
was
gosh.
O
And
so
I
think
it's
the
the
technology
behind.
It
has
gotten
a
lot
better
and
to
answer
your
first
question
about
training
and
maintenance.
It
does
require
some
specialized
skills,
but
I
think
those
are
things
that
can
definitely
be
trained.
If
you
wanted
to
have
a
crew
in-house
maintain
it,
you
could
definitely
get
that
training,
there's
more
and
more
green
infrastructure,
trainings
that
are
becoming
available,
and
also
you
know
if
it
were
something
that
you
wanted
to
contract.
There
are
professionals
who
could
do
that
type
of
vegetation
resources,
but.
C
Yeah
very
much
okay,
so
I
am
kind
of
just
in
general,
I.
C
Of
using
this
as
a
way
to
Showcase
green
roofs
is
a
really
great
idea.
I
just
think
that
what
I'm
hearing
among
fellow
Commissioners
is
that
we
would
just
like
we
need
more
information
before
we
say
yes,
because
we're
being
asked
to
take
on
a
liability,
but
we
don't
know
the
size
of
the
liability.
So
my
suggestion
is
that
perhaps
we
could
you
know
postponedness
for
until
next
meeting
and
perhaps
at
next
meeting.
C
What
could
also
be
attached
to
this
resolution
is
a
little
bit
of
a
like
actual
some
some
analysis
of
what
the
what
the
maintenance
costs
would
be
so
that
we
know
what
we
are
voting
to
kind
of
adapt
ourselves
to
over
the
long
term.
Yeah.
M
Boy
I
apologize
I'm
on
vacation,
so
I
don't
have
access
to
on
my
files
here
and
when
we
have
operating
costs
and
they're
pretty
diminishes.
M
I
recall
that
are
in
the
operating
plan
from
the
Outbacks
I
mean
it's
a
trade-off
that
was
set
by
someone
earlier
either
you
pay
maintenance
for
green
roof
and
essentially
it's
just
maintaining
the
lawn
so
to
speak
and
cleaning
out
some
of
the
I
guess:
inlets
Outlets,
you
know
there
may
be
some
receding,
it's
not
a
dramatic
amount
of
money,
but
I
would
just
say
that
it's
not
a
question.
You
know
we're
at
the
point
now
where
you
know
for
this
building
was
designed
with
the
green
roof
and
you
know.
M
Presumably
they
already
see
a
lot
of
people
were
involved
in
that
decision
making.
So
it's
what's
in
front
of
us,
isn't
a
question:
do
we
do
a
green
roof
or
a
standard
group?
What's
before
the
commission
is?
Do
we
agree
to
a
a
mou
with
the
city
of
Wilmington
utilities
to
leverage
their
green
infrastructure
plan
to
offset
those
costs?
M
You
know
I,
and
so
it's
not
really
a
question
of.
Are
you
approving
a
green
room
that
should
sound
a
long
time
ago?
M
What
were
what's
in
front
of
the
commission
is
and
something
that's
I
think
fantastic
opportunity
to
Leverage
The
CDU
Grant
infrastructure
program
to
enable
us
to
offset
some
of
the
capital
investment
required
for
the
building
and,
as
they
say
in
the
mou
and
as
if
and
others
have
talked
about,
is
to
use
us
as
an
opportunity
to
showcase
this
technology
which,
while
it's
relatively
new
Bloomington,
it's
not
new
at
all,
I
mean
if
you
go
to
Chicago
I
mean
there's
Frameworks
everywhere,
so
this
isn't
a
bleeding
edge
kind
of
Technology.
M
It's
a
pretty
standard
in
many
places,
just
not
here,
and
so
the
point
of
the
green
infrastructure
fund
is
to
actually
enable
us
to
do
this
and
to
Showcase
it
and
hopefully
Inspire
future
developments
at
the
trades
District
to
go
this
route
as
well.
At
the
offset
some
of
the
other
kind
of
traditional
stormwater
utility
costs
that
they
would
be
required
to
do
as
part
of
their
project,
because
not
that
much
land
there's
not
a
lot
of
opportunities
for
it.
M
D
I
D
Know
investment
for
the
technology
in
the
future?
No,
so
we
need
to
be
prudent
with
our
dollars
accordingly.
Is
there
any
possibility
of
utilizing
any
off-site
detention
in
regards
to
this
at
all
from
a
storm
water
standpoint.
L
D
L
If
you
want
to,
if
you
want,
if
you
can
talk,
Mr
Hernandez
into
Fernandez
into
creating
another
lot
over
on
the
west
side
of
Rogers
or
or
giving
up
one
of
the
trace,
District
lots.
That
would
be
amazing.
D
Question
that
falls
right
into
the
building
design,
because
we
have.
We
have
had
a
couple
green
roofs
here
in
town.
We
still
have
one
over
at
the
bloom
apartment,
complex
access
to
maintain
this,
because
if
it
is
a
ship's
ladder
or
it
is
a
ladder
going
up
to
the
roof,
the
reality
of
maintenance
is
minimal
unless
it's
on
a
scheduler
with
a
professional
because
just
physically
getting
to
the
roof,
and
at
the
present
moment,
I
don't
haven't
looked
at
the
design
to
identify
if
there's
a
stairwell
going
up
to
the
roof.
M
Wait,
yes,
I
mean
the
way
it's
designed
is
the
green
roof.
Is
it
wraps
around
that
third
floor?
What
was
originally
a
third
floor?
Now?
It's
just
a
lack
of
better
term
like
a
vestibule.
It
has
some
storing
and
it
opens
out
onto
the
patio.
So
I
mean
you
basically
can
take
the
stairs
or
the
elevator
the
third
floor
to
a
third
floor
of
the
elevator
and
walk
right
out.
A
So
I
tend
to
agree
with
you:
wasn't
there
barely
bansman
regarding
detail
on
the
maintenance
expense
prior
to
us,
making
you
know
moving
this
along
I
think
it's
important
as
I've
said
before,
to
be
armed
with
all
the
facts
before
making
a
decision,
especially
if
we're
committing
to
this
long
term.
So
some
sort
of
analysis
regarding
the
compare
and
contrast
between
a
green
roof
or
a
the
roof-
that's
proposed
here
in
a
regular
roof
I
think
would
be
really
beneficial
for
our
for
our
discussion.
M
Can
I
say
something:
I'm,
sorry,
Ben
I
I,
just
I'm
I'm
happy
to
give
you
that
information
this
week.
If
you
want
to
vote
on
this
next
week
or
your
next
meeting,
but
I
just
want
to
really
emphasize
something.
This
isn't
a
a
question
of.
Are
we
going
to
do
a
green
root
or
a
non-green
group?
That
decision
was
already
made
several
months
ago
and
at
this
stage
I
mean
I.
You
know,
I
went
a
part
of
the
decisions,
one
that
was
developed
or
the
design
was
finalized
into
that.
M
So
I
don't
know
what
information
was
shared
back
then
or
not
shared
I,
just
don't
know,
but
what
I
do
know
is
that
we
are
at
the
stage
of
this
process
where
it's
not
a
question
of.
Do
we
do
a
Greenery
or
not,
because
we
are
way
past
the
prime
Windows
to
make
those
kinds
of
major
changes.
We
won't
have
the
time
to
do
the
redesign
of
the
building
to
go
back
through
CPU
I'd
have
new
approvals
for
a
different
alternative,
stormwater
systems.
M
We
won't
have
the
time
to
go
the
plan
commission
to
update
our
site
plan
that
so
because
we
have
a
deadline
that
we've
inherited
from
the
Eda
by
which
we
have
to
have
contract
executed.
M
M
Be
do
we
accept
this
funding
agreement
from
CDU
to
offset
the
cost
for
the
Green
Room?
That's
all
that's
going
to
be
on
the
agenda,
because
if
you
decide
because
of
operating
costs,
you
don't
want
to
do
a
green
room.
You're
we're
just
not
going
to
be
able
to
disability,
to
be
honest,
because
we
won't
have
an
amount
of
time
required
to
get
all
those
additional
new
approvals
and
design
work
and
get
that
bacteria
to
Eda
and
meet
the
deadline
for
the
October
contracts.
M
B
C
So,
thank
you
very
much
John
for
that
additional
context.
C
I
think
part
of
the
kind
of
confusion
here
is
that
normally,
when
we
receive
in
our
packet
a
resolution
that
relates
to
a
previous
resolution
that
we
have
that
we
have
voted
on
that
is
listed
in
the,
whereas
Clause,
so
that
we
know
the
history
I'm,
not
sure
you
know
you
providing
context
that
we've
already
that
we
have
already
voted
on
a
green
roof
is
not
something
that
I
remember
and
it
could
have
happened
before
I
joined
the
commission
so
in
the
future,
I
think
having
those
kinds
of
that
kind
of
context
in
the
in
the
resolutions
would
be
very
helpful
for
us
so
that
we
know
you
know,
because
from
my
perspective,
all
that
we've
received
was
an
mou
without
a
list
of
other
things
that
we
have
voted
on
in
the
past.
C
To
show
that
we
have
already
committed
to
a
particular
as
I've
said,
I
would
like
to
do
a
green
room.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
before
we
like,
and
even
if
it
costs
a
little
bit
more
I
think
that
it's
worth
doing
right
and
I
think
it's
fantastic,
that
you
have
been
working
on,
trying
to
find
solutions
to
how
to
finance
it.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
there.
C
D
One
additional
question:
if
I
may-
and
this
would
be
for
CBU
accordingly
based
upon
the
green
infrastructure
dollars
that
come
from
the
storm
water,
would
there
be
a
possibility
that
we
would
get
ability
to
get
a
commitment
for
long-term
maintenance
costs
from
that
fund?
D
For
this
particular
project,
I
mean
the
Showcase
of
the
green
roof
is
an
extremely
good
thing
for
climate
change
and
demonstration
of
the
proper
storm
water
usage.
But
as
these
fun
funds
build
long-term,
what
I
hear
all
the
other
Commissioners
and
myself
thoughtfully
thinking
about
his
long-term
costs
for
the
facility
that
will
be
out
so
I,
don't
know
where
that
comes
from
Dollar
Wise.
D
If
we'd
have
to
ask
for
that
resolution
or
say,
could
we
commit
to
that
something
in
that
in
a
time
frame
basis,
because
the
resolution
that
comes
down
on
number
five,
where
it
says
you
know,
submit
plans
and
such
for
alternative
storm
water?
If
something
doesn't
work
or
there,
then
that
cost
Falls?
Also
so
will
there
be
a
possibility
of
that,
or
is
that
something
that
has
to
be
run
up?
The
flagpole
elsewhere.
G
L
J
L
It's
infrastructure,
that's
part
of
the
roadway
design
then,
and
it's
in
the
public
right
away.
Then
we
take
over
maintenance.
I
think
you'll
get
a
better
explanation,
as
you
see
the
next
thing
on
the
agenda
that
got
postponed.
That
was
that
was
covering
some
of
the
long-term
maintenance
requirements
within
the
trades
District,
where
we
laid
that
out
and.
Q
L
D
Cost
that
you're
providing
here
helps
offset
the
cost
of
the
building
and
also
provides
the
storm
water
quality
for
this
particular
building.
So
it's
kind
of
a
win-win
situation
on
the
building
cost
and
the
storm
water.
The
only
question
is
what
we
commit
our
future
rdcs
to
and
I
think
we
all
seems
as
though
we
need
the
information
so.
C
Correctly
that
we
should,
we
should
motion
to
postpone
so
that
way
we
can
re
just
we
can
have
it.
We
can
discuss
it
again.
Next
meeting,
okay.
C
J
C
Resolution
23-63.
A
Pulled
all
right:
we
have
a
first
and
a
second
to
postpone
resolution
23-63
all
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
aye.
Anyone
opposed
all
right
next
item
of
business
on
the
agenda
is
resolution.
23-64
agreement
for
economic
impact,
analysis
of
the
Bloomington
certified
technology
park
with
the
IU
public
policy.
Institute
who'd
like
to
speak
to
the
group
regarding
this.
H
Colleagues,
D
and
Colleen
to
help
answer
someone
notifying
questions
so
again:
I'm
Holly
I'm,
the
interim
director
of
Economic
and
sustainable
development.
So
in
order
to
retain
our
technology
park
certification,
we
have
to
submit
an
application
for
recertification
part
of
that
application
includes
a
third-party
impact
study
of
the
park
that
covers
from
2019
up
to
the
present
we're
proposing
to
contract
with
IU's
public
policy
Institute.
To
do
this
third
party
work
and
we're
asking
you
to
approve
that
contract
today,
adapted
that
contract
is
in
your
packets.
H
H
R
Has
not
been
specifically
this
work
done.
This
is
the
first
year
that
the
iedc
has
required.
A
third
party
impact
study.
I
asked
several
different
firms
for
quotes,
because
PPI
has
done
similar
studies
for
us,
specifically
in
the
trades
District.
They
were
kind
of
like
the
the
one
we
kind
of
wanted
to
go
with,
because
they're
pretty
familiar
with
with
what's
going
on
and
and
kind
of,
the
players
that
are
already
part
of
it
and
they
honestly
did
have
the
best
price
when
it
came
down
to
it.
R
So
I
would
say
if,
if
we
had
a
full
staff
like
if
I
had
10
people
under
me,
the
cost
of
this
would
be
much
less
basically
because
it
will
be
myself
in
an
intern
and
a
few
people
in
my
department.
We
had
to
ask
a
lot
of
of
IU
for
this
study
to
get
it
done
on
time.
Had
I
had
the
year
that
I
thought
I
was
going
to
have
to
do
this.
R
Application
probably
wouldn't
have
to
be
asking
so
much
of
them,
but
it's
more
of
a
Manpower
issue
than
anything
or
a
person.
Power
issue.
I
should
say
to
get
this
done.
G
R
So
once
this
is
every
four
years,
so
we
applied
for
this
every
four
years,
once
it's
approval
weekend,
250
000
per
year,
so
essentially
the
cost
of
this.
The
49
000
is
worth
the
2
million
wool
or
the
worth
the
million
that
we'll
have.
You
know
over
the
course
of
the
four
years
now
I,
don't
know
if
iedc
is
going
to
require
this
every
time.
What
it
sounds
like
is
that
it
probably
will
be
something
that's
required.
R
C
R
The
only
city
that's
going
to
be
asking
for
an
extension
at
this
point
in
time,
but
the
feeling
that
I
got
from
them
is
that
they
want
to
get
all
of
this
settled
before
the
new
year.
And
it's
pretty
late
in
the
year.
To
start.
H
R
This
also
kind
of
puts
ESD
in
a
position
where
it's
like
we're.
We
just
need
to
keep
up
on
this,
so
when
this
does
get
sprung
on
us
the
next
time,
a
lot
of
this
work
can
can
already
be
done.
So
it's
just
you
know
the
impact
study
and
getting
some
things
so
I
think
that
a
yearly
assessment
of
the
CTP
on
our
part
would
be
the
best
course
of
action.
R
C
Well,
I
really
for
one
love
the
fact
that
we're
using
IU
for
this
so
I
think
that
that's
a
really
positive
thing.
It's
adds
also
to
my
understanding
of
the
of
the
center
that
work
that
we
would
be
contracting
with.
Is
that
I
think
that
they
also
use
some
there's
a
kind
of
pedagogical
value
to
it
as
well?
A
A
Q
Will
City
engineering
department
so
Hopewell
Phase,
One
East,
we've
started
instructions
for
well
aware-
and
this
is
our
change
order-
number
one.
This
change
orders
for
some
tree
removal,
that's
required
for
the
infrastructure
to
be
put
in
so
it's
kind
of
up
front
something
we
need
to
get
done.
The.
Q
Q
I
D
Q
No
I,
don't
I've
got
a
lump
sum
bid
on
it,
but
roughly
it's
between
six
to
eight
trees,
I
think
total
they're,
all
different
sizes.
C
This
so
yeah
I'm
a
little
confused,
maybe
there's
a
typo
in
the
last,
whereas
clause
on
the
bottom
of
the
first
page
of
the
resolution.
It
says
that
this
would
modify
the
existing
agreement
from
13
million
373
284.90
to
over
13
million,
eight
hundred
thousand
so
I
think
there's
so
I
thought
that
it
was
a
lot.
So
it
seems
like
there's
a
typo
that
needs
to
be
500.
A
Q
D
A
G
A
Right,
we
have
a
first
and
a
second
on
the
revised
resolution
with
the
corrections
all
those
in
favor.
J
A
Anyone
opposed
All,
Right,
Moving
On
next
out
of
my
business,
is
resolution.
23-66.
F
For
the
next
two
resolutions,
actually
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
that
and
let
him
move
ahead
all.
P
So
the
first
one
we're
asking
for
an
extension
of
time
and
an
increase
in
the
funding
tandem.
This
was
the
first
time
they
applied
for
funds,
so
they
were
on
a
steep
learning
curve.
There
was
a
lot
of
increases
from
when
they
originally
had
bid
their
project
and
when
they
found
out
about
some
of
the
other
rules
and
regulations,
I
got
along
with
cdb
like
the
Davis
bacon
wages.
P
E
Take
care
of
their
trust,
okay,
so
what
kind
of
resources
does
the
hand
Department
have
to
provide
support
to
cdbg
applicants?
That
may
not
have
a
lot
of
experience
with
administering
cdbg
funding
so
that
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
like?
Is
there
any
Lessons
Learned
here
that
could
be
applied
for
future
applicants
so
that
new
applicants
can
have
a
little
easier
ride
of
it?
Yeah.
P
We're
working
on
a
special
100
physical
approval
side
because
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
like
the
Davis
bacon
that
people
aren't
very
familiar
with
I'm
working
with
the
new
Council
Audrey
bringing
ham.
Once
we
get
the
allocation
and
we're
ready
to
provide
the
funding,
we
will
meet
with
them
and
go
through
the
process.
E
Is
that
like?
Does
it
come
at
the
application
stage,
so,
when
they're
putting
together
their
budget
for
a
cdb
submission
proposal
that
they
know
they
have
to
account
for
Davis
bacon
wages?
As
part
of
that,
you
know,
as
opposed
to
realizing
it
after
they've
been
awarded
and
have
to
then
increase
their
word.
P
J
F
There's
a
couple
other
things,
other
things:
apartment
Zephyr
on
the
implementation
of
what's
called
neighborly
software.
It's
a
software
system
that'll
make
the
process
where
a
lot
of
our
programs
a
little
more
seamless
rather
than,
for
instance,
applicants
submitting
applications
by
email.
It
will
be
a
portal
basically
that
they
have,
and
so
there
will
be
a
lot
more.
F
You
know
streamlined
information,
maybe
for
this
next
cycle
it
may
take
till
the
24
cycle
of
cdbg,
but
trying
to
streamline
that
and
make
sure
that
that
people
have
more
of
a
resource
to
go
to,
besides
just
staff,
but
it's
a
it's
a
new
software
system
that
we
we
bought
for
our
federal
programming
this
spring
and
then,
of
course,
the
environmental
review
process
which
all
of
you
know
about.
A
A
P
This
is
a
middle
white
house
project
and
they're,
one
of
our
recipients
that
come
here,
so
they
typically
know
what's
going
on,
but
they've
had
massive
employee
overturn
here
in
the
past
year
and
a
lot
of
the
people
that
left
were
the
ones
that
worked
on
the
grant
funding,
so
everything
got
put
on
hold
for
them
and
they've
had
to
bring
new
staff
on
and
get
things
moving
again,
so
we
needed
to
extend
the
the
deadline
for
them
so
that
they
can
get
their
project
completed,
which
is
actually
completed.
C
Is
it
generally
our
policy
to
except
indirect
or
to
pay
indirect
costs
on.
G
The
way
we
would
do
it
is
if
they
submit
their
their
invoices
to
us
for
what
they
need.
I
can
clarify
with
Tom
what
they
mean
by
indirect
costs.
C
So
indirect
costs
are
with
any
like
any
project
that
is
routed
through
a
university.
The
university
routines,
what
are
called
icr's
indirect
cost
recoveries
and
I
would
just
be
very
curious
to
know
what
the
university
is
charging
on
indirects
because,
for
instance,
on
grants
they
charge
57,
so
they
basically
double
they
over
they,
they
more
than
double
the
costs.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
IU
is
not
doing
that
on
this
particular
thing.
C
I
think
we
need
to
move
ahead
and
thank
you
so
I
think
we
still
need
to
move
ahead
and
because
you're
on
a
timeline
but
I
think
in
general,
especially
if
the
idea
is
to
use
them
in
the
future.
We
need
to.
We
need
clarification,
kind
of
moving
forward.
I,
don't
want
to
hold
this
up
today,
but
I
just
know
that
that.
C
They
can
take
a
lot
they
can,
and
there
is
a
point
to
it
right
that
the
the
people
that
are
the
the
the
policy
Institute
is
using
the
IU
space
right
and
so
IU.
The
whole
point
is
that
it's
to
pay
overhead
right
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
being
paid
out
at
a
kind
of
a
reasonable
amount
for.
R
In
the
city,
it's
a
really
good
point
that
you
bring
up
yeah
I
did
not
I
I
actually
had
to
deal
with
that
with
them
before,
but
did
not
really
think
about
it.
In
this
context,
it.
B
C
E
Not
broken
down
yeah
and
that
was
I'm.
Not
my
question
is
not
an
indirect
costs
or
just
kind
of
typically,
a
contract
like
this
would
be
done
on
on
a
billable
hour
basis,
and
so
I'm.
Just
curious
in
terms
of
I
mean
obviously
different
Consultants
can
do
stuff
different
ways,
but
I'm
just
also
thinking
that
the
city
would
I.
Do
you
have
contracts
on
a
flat
rate
basis
like
this?
It
just
seems
a
little
unusual
to
me.
Some.
E
O
R
N
E
D
D
B
D
R
A
I
Two
thousand
dollars
that
comes
annually,
I,
guess
I,
couldn't
I
didn't
see
that
anywhere
in
the
materials
so
I
missed
it.
So
I
might
follow
up
with
the
after
the
meeting
to
try
to
track
that
down,
and
she
might
just
point
at
the
packet
and
say:
look
there
Dave.
J
I
But
my
question
that
I
came
to
the
meeting
with
was
how
far
is
bloomington's
certified
tech
part
from
reaching
the
cap.
There's
like
this
lifetime
cap.
B
M
I
Have
exceeded
it?
Okay
and
I
might
follow
up
with
you
to
ask
you
how
we
managed
to
do
that.
R
A
You
all
right,
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
for
resolution.
23-64.