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January 11, 2023 Special Bloomington Minnesota City Council Meeting
- The City Council held the third and final special meeting for the purpose of interviewing finalist applicants for the at-large Council seat vacancy.
A
A
A
A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
I
would
like
to
call
this
special
meeting
in
the
Bloomington
city
council
to
order
it
is
January,
11
2023,
six
o'clock.
The
special
meeting
is
to
have
our
second
interviews
with
folks
who
are
applying
to
fill
the
council
vacancy
created
by
the
resignation
of
Nathan
Coulter.
We
have
five
people
scheduled
for
this
evening.
A
Each
will
get
a
half
hour
and
it
will
be
a
conversation
between
the
council
and
the
applicants
and
an
opportunity
for
us
to
to
get
to
know
them
a
little
bit
better
and
add
to
our
information
that
we
have
on
each
applicant.
So,
ultimately,
we
will
make
the
decision
and
just
as
a
quick
review,
we
add
each
applicant
submit
a
resume
and
cover
letter
along
with
some
basic
application
information
online.
A
We
did
have
initial
interviews
last
week
on
Wednesday
and
Saturday
of
last
week
and
on
Monday
night
we
narrowed
the
group
down
from
18
applicants
down
to
five
and
those
five
folks
are
going
to
be
the
ones
coming
in
tonight.
My
intention
council
is
not
to
make
a
decision
tonight,
we're
going
to
gather
information
and
make
a
decision
at
our
next
council
meeting,
which
would
be
on
the
23rd
I
believe.
Is
that
correct
Matt?
Thank
you
on
the
23rd,
so
that
is
my
intention
this
evening.
So
why
don't
we
get
started?
A
A
A
We
want
to
make
this
a
little
bit
more
free-flowing
back
and
forth
the
ability
to
follow
up
with
questions,
just
the
ability
to
have
a
conversation
back
and
forth
and,
as
I
said,
to
get
to
know
you
a
little
bit
better,
and
so
that
is
what
we
will
do
and
we're
just
going
to
work
our
way
up
and
down
and
and
go
to
it
here,
I'm
going
to
kick
it
off.
If
I
can
find
my
questions
here,
there
it
is
console.
A
B
You
know,
as
as
you
go
through
the
the
Strategic
plan,
there's
a
huge
emphasis
on
community
outreach
and
I
think,
as
we
all
saw
as
we
sat
here
Monday
night,
sometimes
residents
don't
feel
like
they're
being
heard,
and
we
do
our
best
to
let
residents
feel
they're,
hurt
and
sometimes
they're,
not
and
I.
Think
that's
been
a
that's
a
challenge
since
the
beginning
of
government
right.
How
do
you
get
people
involved?
B
You
know,
as
you
know,
specifically
talking
about
the
single
and
two
family
residential
standards,
I've
known
about
that
for
for
years
and
I'm,
just
an
unpaid
resident
as
it
as
much
as
anyone
else's.
But
it's
the
emphasis
as
we
move
forward.
It's
getting
residents
informed
and
something
I've
learned
is
my
on
my
time
on
the
Planning
Commission,
specifically
speaking,
to
changes
in
residential
neighborhoods.
B
You
know
we
can
put
up
an
office
tower
as
tall
as
we
want
and
we
won't
get
any
public
feedback
on
it,
but
as
soon
as
we
want
to
change
a
gas
station
or
put
up
a
Billiards
hall
or
anything
else
across
from
somebody's
house,
we
get
a
neighborhood
full
of
people
which
is
great
I.
Wish
we
had
that
room
full
of
people
all
the
time,
and
so
it's
you
know,
as
we
move
forward
I
think
about
how
do
we
connect
with
residents?
B
I
have
a
lot
of
faith
in
our
community
outreach
staff,
I've
worked
with
with
them
and
then
they're
great,
but
I
I
think
that's.
The
challenge
we
need
to
continue
to
work
on
is
how
do
we
reach
residents
before
they
feel
like
they're
surprised,
because
I
think
when
you're
surprised,
you
have
an
automatic
sort
of
whoa,
pushback
I
didn't
know
about
this.
B
B
We
can't
put
something
in
people's
mailbox
for
every
city-wide
matter.
We
can't
do
it,
there's
a
financial
cost
to
it.
It's
not
right
to
the
taxpayers
to
do
that.
It's
impractical,
so
I
think
if
we
separated
the
piece
of
this
affects
neighborhoods.
We
need
to
pay
extra
attention
to
this
and
then
I
think
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
really
quite
effective
for
for
General
matters
where
I
would
like
to
see
us
step
it
up.
B
C
B
Yeah
equity
and
inclusion,
I
think
starts
with
us
getting
rid
of
West,
Bloomington
and
east
Bloomington
I
know,
there's
no
formal
definition
of
it,
but
I
think
we
all
sort
of
have
an
idea
of
what
people
are
talking
about
when
they
say
that
and
I
think
the
first
thing
is
is
breaking
down
the
barrier
that
there's
two
different
cities
happening
here.
If
we're
going
to
be
together,
we
have
to
break
down
this
barrier
of
where
you
live
is
the
type
of
lifestyle
or
the
type
of
person
you
are.
B
You
know
I
think
sometimes
people
Define
people
on
the
other
side
based
on
where
they
live
or
or
what
type
of
things
are
happening,
and
that
can't
be
that
way.
We
have
excellent
things
going
on
the
east
side
of
Bloomington
I'm,
an
eastsider
I
love
living
on
the
east
side,
but
I
like
going
to
the
west
side
too,
with
some
of
our
natural
areas
over
there.
B
So
for
me,
the
first
thing
we
do
is
we
sort
of
back
down
the
east
Bloomington
West
Bloomington
thing
and
get
rid
of
that
I
love
some
of
the
other
initiatives
we're
doing
with
the
close
to
my
district
and
the
old
fire
department.
Three,
getting
that
small
business
incubator
going
I
think
that's
an
excellent
idea,
sort
of
city
supported:
let's
get
you
off
the
ground
and
then
let
you
run
by
yourself
and
I.
B
Think
you
know
it's
not
us
just
throwing
money
at
folks,
it's
putting
them
in
the
right
position
to
have
their
own
successes
and
then
go
off
on
their
own
and
do
the
right
thing.
So
I
love
what
we're
doing
there
and
I
think
more
opportunities
like
that.
Where
what
can
we
do
as
a
city,
you
know
we
have
some
strategic
dollars
available
to
us.
Where
can
we
put
that
where
we're
not
having
a
short-term
solution,
we're
not
just
funding
something
for
this
here
or
patching
up
something
over
here
or
you
know
one-time
fixes.
B
B
B
B
Very
specifically,
I
think
we
should
stop
saying
it
in
this
room.
I
think
that's
a
good
play
first
place
to
start.
When
people
hear
us
say
it,
then
they,
you
know
that's
a
tantamount
to
saying
it's:
okay
or
it's
a
real
thing.
You
know
I'm,
probably
as
guilty
of
saying
it
up
there
too,
but
I
think
we
should
stop
saying
it
in
this
room
and
then
you
know
keeping
ourselves
in
check
making
you
know
making
sure
we're
being
Equitable.
A
D
So,
in
a
normal
year
it
would
take
a
lot
of
time
to
get
up
to
speed
as
a
new
council
member
requiring
a
significant
amount
of
time
to
understand
the
rest
of
the
role
this
year
is
also
an
election
year.
Do
you
have
the
capacity
to
commit
to
both
share
with
us,
how
you
plan
to
accomplish
both
and
why
you'd
be
best
suited
for
this
endeavor?
There's.
B
Three
questions
that
I
may
ask
you
to
repeat
the
second
two,
but
I'll
start
with
the
first
one
of
of
capacity.
I
absolutely
have
capacity
to
take
on
the
next
10
months.
I,
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
be
sitting
here.
If
I
didn't
I'm
already
a
planning.
Commissioner,
as
you
all
know,
although
we
don't
have
quite
the
workload
you
do,
it's
not
totally
Distillery.
B
We
have
a
lot
of
meetings
and
public
hearings
and
all
the
things
and,
of
course,
I
would
step
down
from
that
role
to
fill
my
position
here
in
city
council,
so
I
definitely
have
the
capacity
I've
already
had
preliminary
discussions
with
other
small
things
in
my
life.
Saying
hey,
you
know
I,
you
know.
One
thing
is
I.
Am
the
chair
of
the
Minnesota
Structural
Engineers
Association
young
member
group?
That's
a
mouthful,
but
I've
already
had
discussions
with
them.
B
Like
hey,
you
know
this
happens,
I'm
going
to
need
to
pull
back
from
some
other
things,
so
I
can
make
sure
I'm
dedicated
to
what
I'm
doing
here.
So
that's
the
capacity
for
the
right
now.
As
far
as
the
re-election
cycle,
I
I,
think
from
a
capacity
standpoint,
yeah
I
would
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
D
B
So
I
think
again,
I
I
think
I
already
discussed
planning
planning
for
that
capacity
again.
Stepping
back
from
a
few
other
things
you
heard
me
talk
last
time
was
before
you
about
coaching.
That
is
one
thing:
I
will
not
step
back
from
I
have
no
intention
of
stepping
back
from
that
I
I
think
when
you're
helping
other
people,
you
can't
hurt
other
people
by
doing
something
for
other
people.
B
B
You
know
it's
interesting
I,
certainly
on
the
Planning
Commission,
we
have
a
thing
in
the
city
now
where
we
could
Mentor
when
you
join
a
border
commission
or
at
least
be
doing
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I
actually
piloted
that
for
the
Planning
Commission,
where
I
had
a
former
planning,
commissioner,
be
my
designated
Mentor
from
the
city,
Mr
Tom,
Goodrum
who's
been
excellent.
I
really
appreciate
the
work.
Tom
has
done
for
me
and
kind
of
guided
me
through
my
time
in
the
Planning
Commission.
B
The
first
thing
we
talked
about
was
that
you
have
to
be
prepared
on
day
one
to
be
a
member
of
the
Planning
Commission.
It's
seven
people
up
there
right
and
so
from
the
very
first
meeting,
you're
one-seventh
of
the
Planning
Commission,
in
this
case
one-seventh
of
the
city
council,
and
it
was
extremely
important
to
me
that
I
came
to
my
very
first
Planning
Commission,
prepared
to
make
a
motion
to
you
know,
have
a
different
opinion.
B
You
know,
one-seventh
of
our
city,
that's
12,
13,
000
people
right
those
people
are
counting
on
you
to
be
prepared,
and
so
that
would
absolutely
be
one
of
my
goals
for
this
position
is
to
from
the
very
first
meeting
step
in
if
motion
is
necessary,
I'd
be
willing
to
do
that.
To
be
able
to
provide
a
different
opinion
on
an
item.
Agree
disagree
to
be
a
contributing
member
of
the
city
council
is
something
I
absolutely
would
have
the
intent
of
doing
from
the
very
first
meeting.
E
B
B
You
know
I
think
for
me,
the
our
biggest
challenge
is
having
a
different
identity
than
what
we
have
now.
When
I
tell
people
I
live
in
Bloomington,
they
know
Mall
of
America
and
they
all
know
Ikea
and
most
of
them
know
our
office
towers
and
they
know
our
other
our
hotels,
but
they
don't
know
about
our
Green,
Space
and
I.
Think
that
is
actually
something
that's
holding
us
back.
We
have
these
significant
amenities
in
our
city
that
other
cities
don't
have,
and
we
are
not
pushing
that
enough.
B
In
my
opinion,
with
Highland
the
Minnesota
Valley
National
Refuge
down
there,
we
have
significant
assets
that
we
are
not
whether
it's
digital
media
channels,
whatever
it
needs
to
be
I,
I,
think
we're
missing
out
on
potential
residence
development
people
getting
in.
You
know,
people
coming
to
Bloomington
for
those
recreational
or
environmental
purposes
that
we're
missing
out
on
and
I
think
that's
a
challenge
for
us,
because
we
have
these
other
tremendous
assets.
I
would
never
want
to
be
without
them
all
or
anything
like
that.
B
They're
great
but
I
think
we
have
a
challenge
in
front
of
us
to
say
we
have
other
things
here.
You
know
we're
not
just
the
airports,
even
though
you
know
we
know
the
airport's
not
here,
but
that's
what
people
identify
as
with
the
mall
in
the
airport.
How
do
we
get
people
to
identify
Bloomington
with
our
other
assets,
whether
that
be
our
smaller
commercial
nodes?
We
also
have
you
know:
I
live
next
to
90th
and
Lyndale
for
a
number
of
years.
H
B
B
One
thing:
I
miss
is
Route
597
route,
597
used
to
go
from
South
Bloomington
Transit
station
and
90th
and
Lyndale
I
was
express
service
to
downtown
and
I.
Think
that
was
a
huge
loss
for
the
city.
When
the
orange
line
came
in,
the
Metro
Transit
took
away
around
597.
and
although
we
got
improved
service
by
having
the
orange
line,
which
I
think
has
it's
supposed
to
have
every
10
minute
service
I
think
it's
actually
15.,
but
it
takes
longer
and
for
commuters.
B
Every
minute
matters
on
public
transportation
and
I
think
it
was
actually
a
downgrade
when
we
went
from
the
route
597
to
the
Orange
Line,
you
know
we're
competing
with
our
surrounding
neighborhoods,
right
and
I.
Think
one
of
the
places
we
compete
with
most
is
South
Minneapolis,
and
how
can
we
compete
with
South
Minneapolis?
Well,
one
of
the
ways
we
could
do.
It
is
good
access
to
transportation,
and
one
of
the
stories
I
was
able
to
share
in
my
office
was
well.
B
You
live
so
far
away,
but
my
bus
route
from
South
Wilmington
transit
station
on
Route
597
was
faster
than
having
to
take
a
local
bus
in
from
South
Minneapolis,
and
so
I
could
have
I
think
it
was
an
18-minute
bus
ride.
While
everyone
else
has
taken
25
minute
bus
rides,
so
I
could
have
the
neighborhood
I
wanted
in
the
city
that
I
wanted,
but
and
I
didn't
have
to
put
up
with
some
of
the
South
Minneapolis
stuff
and
I
have
better
access
to
Transportation.
B
It
was
a
huge
story
to
be
able
to
share
with
people
and
kind
of
open
their
eyes
like
geez.
You
know
that's
great,
but
we
lost
it
and
I
I'm
disappointed
we
lost
it.
I
wish
we
could
bring
it
back
that
express
service.
Even
if
it's
just
a
few
routes
in
the
morning,
a
few
routes
in
the
evening
to
get
the
bulk
of
the
commuters
there.
B
You
could
still
take
the
orange
line,
the
rest
of
the
day
if
you
had
to
be
around
at
a
different
part
outside
of
the
rush
hours,
but
I
would
love
to
see
route.
597
come
back.
Getting
that
express
service,
the
next
piece
and
probably
well
the
more
important
piece
is:
we've
got
to
get
safety
back
on
the
blue
line
it.
Unfortunately,
it
seems
to
get
worse
month
over
month,
the
number
of
times
I've
seen
hard
drugs
in
the
last
30
days.
Is
you
need
more
than
two
hands
to
count
it,
which
is
really
unfortunate?
B
And
it's
not
marijuana
I
mean
we're
talking,
meth
fentanyl,
the
bad
stuff.
When
there
are
children
on
the
trains,
when
there
are
vulnerable
people
on
the
trains,
the
safety
on
the
blue
line
has
really
taken
a
dive,
and
it's
really
disappointing
and
it's
it's
open,
carry
it's
not
even
folks,
just
trying
to
hide
it
in
the
back
of
the
car
anymore.
It's
totally
open
carry
of
of
drugs
on
the
train,
and
it's
it's
really
sad.
It's
you
know
it's
the
point
where
I
can
barely
take
it
and
I
work
from
home.
B
More
than
I
should
just
because
it's
easier
to
not
take
the
the
train
and
deal
with
the
commute,
which
is
a
real
bummer,
because
you
know
Bloomington
Central
Station,
where
I
live.
That's
the
centerpiece
of
our
neighborhood
right
is
that
transit
station
and
the
the
the
ability
to
take
the
light
rail
from
Bloomington
to
downtown.
That's
that's
the
beautiful
story,
that's
what
it's
supposed
to
be,
but
when
it's
unsafe
or
challenging,
or
you
really
don't
want
to
take
it
after
hours
or
you'd,
rather
just
take
an
Uber
home.
B
F
B
B
I'd
like
to
see
something
on
American
Boulevard.
Unfortunately,
as
I
mentioned
last
time,
we
were
supposed
to
get
a
bus,
rapid
transit
route,
I
think
from
Eden
Prairie
South
Bloomington
Transit
station
to
I
think
through
the
mall,
maybe
up
to
the
airport,
but
we
need
more
East-West
transportation
right
right
now,
it's
not
hard
to
get
downtown,
maybe
uncomfortable,
but
it's
not
hard
to
get
downtown.
What
it
is
hard
is
to
get
across
Wilmington,
so
I'm,
a
consultant
for
the
airport
and
sometimes
I,
would
take
transportation
to
downtown
in
the
morning.
B
Take
the
blue
line
down
to
the
light
rail,
but
it
would
be
hard
for
me
to
get
back
to
my
I'm
sorry
to
the
airport.
It
would
be
hard
for
me
to
get
from
the
airport
back
to
my
apartment
and
so
oftentimes
I'd
actually
just
have
to
go
back
into
downtown.
So
I
could
get
my
bus
that
I
wanted
back
to
my
apartment,
and
that
was
a
real
pain.
B
I
mean
oh
now
as
you're
on
a
bus
for
an
hour
and
20
minutes
just
to
get
home
so
more
inner
Bloomington
Transportation
would
be
great,
especially
in
the
East-West
Direction,
whether
that
be
a
long.
You
know
Old
Shakopee,
Road,
98th,
Street
or
Along
American
Boulevard
in
particular.
I
think
that
would
be
a
huge
benefit
to
our
residents,
also
a
better
connection
with
Southwest
transit
for
those
Eden
Prairie
folks.
B
It
was
yeah,
that's
a
that's
a
great
question,
mayor,
I,
I,
think
back
to
an
item
we
had
before
the
Planning
Commission
a
few
years
ago
and
I,
don't
remember
if
it
came
before
you
all
or
not,
but
it
was
for
an
adult
care
facility
near
Old,
Shakopee,
Road,
Old,
Shakopee,
Road
and
Old
Cedar
Avenue.
So
right
on
that
intersection
there
and
it
was
The.
B
Proposal
was
not
only
for
an
adult
care
facility,
but
it
needed
a
re-guiding
in
our
comp
plan
because
it
was
guided
as
high
density
residential,
but
that's
obviously
not
compatible
with
the
single
care
facility,
which
was
just
going
to
go
in
an
existing
house.
That's
already
there,
so
they
were
applying
for
rezoning,
and
that
was
a
real
battle,
because
old
theater
in
Old
Shakopee
Road,
is
on
my
very
short
list
of
corridors
that
we
need
some
revitalization
and,
and
so
it
was
a
real
tug
and
pull
between.
B
B
To
say
no,
we
don't
want
an
adult
care
facility,
but
it
really
isn't
about
that.
It
was
explaining
that
we
have
a
corridor
here
that
needs
new
energy.
That
needs
new
developments
and
we
have
to
take
a
long-range
look
at
some
of
these
things
and
although,
in
the
short
term,
it
was
a
good
usage,
the
long-term
goals
could
have
been
sacrificed,
and
so,
when
you
have
to
defend
a
decision
like
that,
I
find
the
best
thing
is
to
explain
your
reason.
Why?
B
If
you
don't
explain
why
or
if
you
just
put
it
out
there
I
think
that
can
really
upset
residents,
because
they
only
see
it
on
the
surface
level.
But
when
you
explain
why
here's?
Why
we're
doing
this
and
the
goals
we're
trying
to
accomplish
for
the
long
term
I
think
then
you
know
you
may
not
get
them
on
your
side,
but
I
think
you
can
at
least
gain
some
people's
respect
and
I.
B
Think
that's
where
we
can
come
together
is
if
we
have
each
other's
respect
and
understand
the
decisions
people
make,
we
can
disagree
with
each
other.
That's
fine!
We're
not!
We
have
90
000
people
here
not
going
to
agree
on
anything,
but
if
we
can
understand
where
each
other
are
coming
from
and
have
respect
for
the
decisions,
people
are
making
that
can
sort
of
take
down
some
of
that
energy
and
and
at
least
have
people
think
you're
working
for
them.
Instead
of
against
them.
A
C
B
Me
it's
two-pronged:
it's
what
you
do
before
the
meeting
and
what
you
do
during
the
meeting.
So
before
the
meeting
I'm,
a
big
preparation
guy,
you
know
I'm
an
engineer
by
trade,
so
I
I
take
other
things
to
look
at
I.
Take
a
look
at
things
very
technically
and
analytically.
Ask
questions
of
Staff
before
the
meeting.
B
If
I
need
a
little
bit
more
information,
so
you're
taking
in
the
best
information
you
can
to
prepare
yourself
for
the
discussion,
but
one
of
the
things,
the
very
first
things
Glenn
marker
Guard
from
the
planning
department
taught
us-
is
that
you
never
make
up
your
mind
before
you've
heard
from
the
public
and
before
you
refer
from
your
fellow
Commissioners
and
I.
Took
that
to
heart
and
I
can
think
of
a
very
specific
example.
B
Is
the
we
had
an
application
for
one
of
the
Verizon
Wireless
facilities
down
in
South
and
some
some
I
think
it's
90
East
Street,
wherever
that
is
Old,
Shakopee
Road
and
it
was.
It
got
a
lot
of
attention
because
of
the
noise.
It
was
going
to
admit
and
I
had
read
this
staff
report
and
felt
good
about
it.
But
during
the
meeting
a
resident
stepped
forward
and
said,
I
read
this
report
and
yes,
the
noise
being
emitted
from
this
facility
is
within
code.
B
If
you
add
on
the
existing
noise,
that's
already
being
emitted,
it
would
cross
the
threshold,
and
that
was
something
I
had
completely
missed,
not
to
discredit
staff,
but
I
think
they
missed
it
too,
and
we
took
a
look
at
this
and
said:
yeah
he's
right.
We
we
missed
this,
and
so
we
held
you
over
the
application.
B
We
asked
the
applicant
to
take
another
look
at
it
and
they
came
back
to
us
a
month
later
and
they
had
more
sound
wall
there
to
limit
that
noise
pollution
to
the
the
surrounding
cities,
and
that
was
pretty
early
on
in
my
time
on
the
Planning,
Commission
and
I
realized.
You
know
public
testimony
matters
and
not
that
I
didn't
think
it
did,
but
it
really
impressed
upon
me
that
we
have
to
listen
to
our
residents
and
they
can
come
forward
with
some
really
good
ideas
and
really
good
things.
B
I
think
that
was
a
huge
victory
for
the
public
on
that
and
it
showed
that
when
residents
are
engaged
and
when
they
come
forward
with
with
good
solid
testimony,
they
can
make
a
difference,
and
so
for
me
there's
that
part
of
before
the
meeting.
For
me,
technical
analytical,
asking
questions
where
necessary,
but
listening
during
the
meeting
listening
having
my
ears
open,
being
engaged
in
the
meeting
continuing
to
think,
while
I'm
there,
and
only
after
I've
done
that
am
I
ready
to
make
a
final
decision.
D
D
B
Well,
I
think
you
could
ask
what
what
what
differentiates
you
from
other
candidates
and
for
me
it
is
my
background.
As
an
engineer,
I
think
differentially
differentiates
me
a
little
bit
in
in
two
prongs:
I
talked
about
the
being
very
technical
and
analytical.
That
is
something
that's
near
and
dear
to
me
as
an
engineer
but
I
think
it's
it's
learning.
The
Hallmark
of
engineering
is
learning
every
day
and
if
you're
not
learning
you're,
not
being
as
effective
as
you
can
be,
and
so
again
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
that
public.
B
Testimony
piece,
but
also
just
taking
in
all
the
information
we
can
I
know
your
packets
are
800
Pages
or
whatever.
They
are
there's
so
much
information
in
there.
And
how
do
you
boil
that
down
and
I,
as
an
engineer
have
things
like
that?
All
the
time
I
mean
I
have
a
stack
of
code
books,
a
mile
high
at
my
desk,
and
constantly
being
faced
with
challenges.
B
B
You
can't
blindly
trust
things
as
an
engineer.
You
know
as
Structural
Engineers
we're
Life
Safety,
Engineers,
any
type
of
group,
think
or
un
on
unresearched
opinions.
Okay,
that
could
have
serious
consequences
and
I
take
the
same
approach
here
where
I
I
study,
myself
and
I
I
take
in
the
opinions
that
are
around
me
and
Discerning
that
down
to
my
own
opinion,
and
it's
it's
about
creating
your
own
opinion
from
every
all
the
information
you
have,
whether
that's
public
testimony
the
packet
other
things
again,
I.
B
Think
as
an
engineer,
we
are
implored
to
think
by
ourselves
and
not
be
afraid
to
be
different.
Another
thing
why
Planning
Commission
Mentor
Tom
taught
me
was
don't
be
afraid
to
be
the
only
person
on
the
other
side.
If
you
look
at,
if
you
look
close
enough
at
our
Planning
Commission
meeting
I
mean
I'm
sure,
there's
no
one
else.
That's
on
the
back
side
of
a
one
to
six
vote
than
I
am
and
I'm
not
afraid
to
do
that
there
or
here,
because
I
will
not
subscribe
to
groupthink
and
I'll.
B
B
E
B
B
You
know
it's
I
have
the
wonderful
opportunity
on
the
Planning
Commission,
as
I
talked
about
on
Monday
night,
that
we
have
these
sort
of
very
small
agendas
where
we
can
take
an
individual
item
and
I've
always
kind
of
thought
like
the
Planning
Commission
is
the
closest
form
of
government
to
the
people
like
there's
nobody
lower
than
us,
but
the
beauty
of
that
is
we're
the
closest
to
the
people.
So
we
can
make
site
visits.
B
The
is
the
number
one
thing
we
we
can
do
is
as
City,
whether
it's
a
commissioner
or
council
member.
If
you
can
serve
your
residence,
I,
think
you're
doing
a
good
job,
and
sometimes
that
means
disagreeing
with
them.
You
know
we
I
think
a
healthy
sign
of
a
commission
or
council
is
disagreeing
with
one
another
and
disagreeing
with
your
residents,
and
that
can
be
tough
to
disagree
with
your
residents.
B
You
know
we
had
a
tough,
you
all
had
a
tough
application
before
you
Monday
night,
where
you
had
a
room
full
of
people
disagreeing
with
with
a
staff
recommendation,
and
how
do
you
handle
that
that
can
be
tough
when,
when
there's
sort
of
these
Polar
Polar
Opposites
on
on
what
you
want
to
do
and
I
think
again,
it
comes
down
to.
Can
you
explain
why
and
can
you
can
you
connect
with
the
residents
and
say
Here's?
Why
we're
doing
this
and
here's?
Why
I'm
not
just
doing
this?
For
me
we're
not
being
paid
off.
B
You
know,
there's
always
that
these
days,
you're
getting
paid
off.
Believe
me,
I've
never
made
a
dollar
on
the
Planning
Commission
I
can
tell
I
can
tell
you
that
you
know
if
you
can
connect
with
your
residents
and
serve
them
on
the
human
level
and
not
just
think
of
them
as
90
000
of
constituents,
but
serve
people
on
the
human
level.
I
think
you're
doing
the
right
thing.
As
a
council
member.
A
Mr
Colton
we're
just
about
out
of
time
so
I
wanted
to.
Thank
you
tell
you
where
our
next
steps
are
we're
talking.
Five
people
tonight,
you're
one
of
five
as
I
think
you
know,
and
we
won't
be
making
a
decision
tonight
or
having
discussion
that
will
happen
on
our
at
our
meeting
on
January
23rd,
but
then
on
that
at
that
meeting
the
intention
is.
We
are
going
to
fill
this
position
and
we
are
going
to
we're
going
to
swear
in
a
new
council
member
at
the
latest.
B
A
A
A
Foreign
good
evening,
good
evening,
thanks
for
being
here
tonight,
appreciate
your
willingness
to
continue
on
this
journey
and
you're
willing
to
spend
a
half
hour
with
us
tonight.
As
you
can
see,
we
do
have
30
minutes
on
the
clock
and
we'll
get
that
started.
As
we
ask
the
first
question
here
and
unlike
the
first
interview,
we
didn't
provide
you
with
the
questions
ahead
of
time.
So
this
will
be
a
bit
more
of
a
a
more
of
a
traditional
interview.
Where
we'll
ask
the
questions
expect
some
back
and
forth.
Maybe
some
follow-up
answers
or
questions.
A
We
want
to
look
at
it
as
an
opportunity
to
to
learn
more
about
you
and
be
able
to
add
that
to
the
to
the
file
that
we
have
and
the
decision
that
we're
going
to
make
ultimately
absolutely
sounds
great,
very
good.
So
I'm
going
to
kick
this
off
and
then
we'll
head
on
down
the
line
here
and
I
will
ask
the
first
question
what
elements
of
the
city
strategic
plan
resonate
most
with
you
and
why.
I
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
for
having
me
today,
Council
I,
think
the
thing
that
stuck
out
most
to
me
was
the
keyword
community
and
when
we
looked
at
the
community
Cafe
information
and
the
resident
feedback
data
that
came
through
to
me,
it
was
very
clear
that
Community
was
one
thing
that
people
were
searching
for
right.
We
talk
about
this
all
the
time
about
east
Bloomington
versus
West
Bloomington
and
one
Bloomington.
I
I
felt
that
when
I
lived
in
Minneapolis
and
other
places,
but
not
here,
and
so
we
went
through
that
planning
for
the
Strategic
plan
it
came
through
over
and
over
and
over
to
me,
that
community
is
the
most
important
thing
that
we
can
build
and
through
that
it
Cascades
into
a
number
of
different
effects.
It
helps
us
come
together.
It
helps
Public
Safety.
The
first
key
word
in
public
safety
is
public.
I
I
feel
like
we
forget
that
it's
not
just
police
and
fire
that
keep
us
safe,
but
it's
the
public
that
keeps
us
safe
and
through
community.
That
is
what
brings
us
together
to
improve
Public
Safety.
It
helps
us
improve
home
values,
because
when
you
care
about
where
you
live,
you
care
about
your
neighbors,
you
care
about
what
you
do
to
affect
those
around
you,
and
so
that
to
me
was
really
what
stuck
out
to
me.
C
I
I
I,
think
we
live
in
an
era
where
sometimes
it
feels
like
things
should
be
given
or
things
you
know
are
taken
away
and
we
don't
have
a
choice
in
that.
But
opportunity
is
what
I
firmly
believe
that
Equity
inclusion
entails
it's
not
up
to
the
city
or
the
state
or
the
federal
government,
to
give
you
what
you
need.
It's
up
to
you
to
have
the
opportunity
to
go
and
Achieve
that
and
what
the
city
and
the
state
and
the
federal
government
can
do
is
provide
the
opportunity
to
help
neighbors
and
communities
understand.
I
Thank
you,
councilmember
Lowman,
that's
a
great
question
and
honestly,
even
if
it
was
a
normal
year,
it's
still
a
lot
right.
I
think
my
previous
experience
lends
itself
well
right
being
on
the
community
budget,
advisory
committee
and
understanding
the
budgets
and
how
the
City
Works
and
the
general
fund
and
understanding
just
the
financing
that
goes
behind
it
being
involved
and
just
engaged
in.
I
It's
just
stress,
but
when
you
work
hard
for
things
that
mean
a
lot
to
you,
it's
called
passion
and
I'm
passionate
about
this
city,
I'm
passionate
about
the
community.
We
have
here
and
I'm
passionate
about
creating
a
foundation,
a
part
of
this
city,
so
that
those
who
come
after
me
have
somewhere
to
build
and
make
Bloomington
continue
to
be
a
great
place
to
call
home.
I
The
space
that
we
have
now
is
small.
It's
outdated.
It
really
only
functions,
for
you
know
a
select
group
in
the
community
and
though
it
it
is
something
that
I
think
is
necessary.
It
doesn't
fit
the
broader
you
know
breadth
of
what
Bloomington
is
and
then
we
look
at
all
the
other
spaces
that
we
might
have.
We
have
them
all.
It
feels
like
it's
very
touristy.
It's
for
everybody
else,
not
for
Bloomington.
I
F
F
I
I
think
the
the
thing
with
the
Bloomington
leadership
program
is
it
plants
a
seed
beyond
anything
else,
you're
exposed
to
someone
over
I
think
it's
an
eight-week
program.
Over
the
eight
weeks
you
meet
counsel,
you
meet
City
staff,
you
meet
different
departments,
you
see
everything
that
the
city
does
and
it
plants
a
seed
in
your
head
of
my
goodness.
The
city
does
so
much
and
what
can
I
do?
That's
what
I
believe
the
balloon
leadership
program?
Does
you
can
see
it
through?
You
know
we
have
a
running
email
where
you
know
we
get
updates
on.
I
What's
going
on
what
you
know,
different
commission
openings
are,
and
even
just
hey,
here's
what's
going
on
in
the
city
this
weekend
and
you
might
like
to
go
out
and
participate,
and
so
it
leads
to
more
participation.
It
leads
to
being
more
passionate
about
your
city,
your
community,
at
least
to
you,
talking
with
your
neighbors
and
spreading
that
enthusiasm,
so
that
when
you're
on
the
grocery
store,
you
know
picking
up
strawberries
or
canned
soup,
whatever
it
is,
and
you
run
into
your
neighbor
and
be
like
you
know
what
this
is
a
great
program.
I
F
I
With
disappointment,
I
think
the
what
it
will
help
me
with
is
just
continuing
to
stay,
curious,
I,
know,
I,
don't
know
everything
about
the
city.
I,
don't
fully
expect
to
know
everything
about
the
city,
but
continue
to
stay,
curious
and
dig
and
be
passionate
about
what
I'm
doing
so
that
I
don't
lose
that
energy
that
drive
to
connect
with
my
fellow
neighbors
so
I
think
that's
the
biggest
thing
is
continuing
to
to
maintain
that
energy
and
curiosity
to
continue
on.
I
Yeah
I
for
a
time,
I,
I
managed
a
rather
large
business
unit
and
I.
Think
the
the
most
important
thing
with
decisions
is
making
a
decision
is,
if
you
don't
make
a
decision,
something
or
someone
else
will
come
and
make
the
decision
for
you
and
as
I
inherited
this
product
line,
it
had
been
clear
that
it
had
once
been
a
prime
performer,
something
that
people
consumers
loved,
but
we
had
just
got
to
let
it
go
by
the
time.
I
got
it.
It
had
been
in
a
steady
10-year
decline.
I
It
had
been
at
the
lowest
point
even
with
you
know,
for
launching
a
new
product.
It
was
below
that
and
it
impacted
the
consumer
perception
of
our
product
and
our
brand
in
particular,
and
my
leadership
wanted
to
keep
it
because
it
had
high
ebitda
right.
It
was
still
delivering
profits,
even
though
the
profits
were
low.
It
was
a
high
number,
but
it
was
clear
to
me
that
we
couldn't
support
this.
They
weren't
making
the
machines
anymore.
I
We
were
spending
more
money
on
repairs
every
year
and
it
was
coming
to
the
point
where
we're
gonna,
the
repairs
itself
was
going
to
outweigh
the
profits
that
we're
getting
from
this
particular
product.
So
I
proposed
my
idea.
This
is
what
we're
gonna.
Do
we're
going
to
start
to
discontinue
this
product,
we're
going
to
start
a
plan
to
help
our
customers
transition
and
get
to
where
they
need
to
go.
So
we
can
maintain
that
relationship
with
them
and
the
most
difficult
thing
I
had
to
do
was
listen
to
higher
leadership
change
the
plan.
I
That's
not
what
we're
going
to
do.
We
think
we
still
want
to
keep
it
we're
not
ready
yet
and
being
able
to
put
everything
together
and
present.
It
was
probably
one
of
the
most
deflating
things
that
I
could
have
done,
but
what
I
learned
from
that
is,
there
are
things
that
are
out
of
control
and
what
we
can
do
is
put
Plants
together
to
move
forward
and
make
sure
that
the
direction
we're
given
is
going
to
continue
to
support
the
mission
and
drive
of
what
we're
trying
to
achieve,
and
so
I
got.
My
team
together.
H
F
C
I
Yeah
absolutely
I
think
a
lot
of
what
we've
done
is
great
I.
Think
the
Community
involvement
and
transparency
is
fantastic,
being
able
to
reproduce
what's
happening
in
the
city
in
multiple
languages
and
and
allow
people
to
the
opportunity
to
understand.
What's
going
on,
but
I
think
what
something
else
we
could
do
is
get
more
into
the
neighborhoods
and
the
community
community
places
where
our
friends
and
neighbors
are
right.
I
So
when
we
look
at
how
Bloomington
is
changing
culturally
we're
changing,
there's
a
lot
of
different
languages
being
spoken
here
so
being
in
those
spaces
and
and
having
ambassadors
that
sit
and
understand.
What's
going
on
in
the
in
the
city
that
can
go
out
and
communicate
that
and
then
also
that
can
bring
that
information
back
to
the
city
so
that
we
have
a
clear
understanding
of
you
know
where
are
our:
where
is
our
population
at
and
how
can
we
best
support?
I
What
they're,
needing
so
having
like
an
ambassador
program,
is
something
I
believe
that
can
help
not
just
minority
populations
in
Bloomington
but
in
all
of
Bloomington,
and
whether
it's
people
who
live
in
Denver
area
codes
and
that's
what
bloomed
the
the
council
is
meant
to
do.
But,
like
we're
one
person,
we
can't
hear
everyone
and
having
our
neighbors
kind
of
be
our
eyes
and
ears
is
something
I.
Think
is
a
great
idea
for
us
to
to
move
forward
with.
I
I
think,
as
we
go
through
life,
there's
a
plethora
of
hard
decisions
that
have
to
be
made
and
I
think
not
every
difficult
decision
is
the
same,
but
for
me,
I
think,
there's
kind
of
three
things
that
I
always
rely
on
and
it's
what
have
I
experienced
in
the
past.
That's
similar
to
this
situation.
What
do
I
know
that's
true
about
the
current
situation
and
then
who
is
my
team?
I
Those
who
know
more
than
I
do
to
get
an
understanding
of
what
does
this
mean
if
we
make
this
decision
so
that
we
can
make
that
decision
to
move
forward
and,
as
I
said
before,
the
biggest
thing
for
me
is
being
able
to
make
that
decision,
because
if
we
don't,
someone
else
will
and
then
we'll
have
an
even
harder
decision
to
make.
So
that's
how
I
would
approach
it.
I
So
that's
how
I
would
Square
how
the
World's
Fair
in
the
water
park
you
know,
would
conflict
with
our
vision
and
sustainability,
but
I
fully
believe
that
it's
capable
new
technologies
are
coming
out
every
day
and
continuing
to
improve
every
day.
And
so
it's
not
like
the
water
parks
and
the
world's
fairs.
We
have
of
old.
I
I
Look
at
my
career,
the
one
thread
so
I
I've
been
food
safety
and
quality.
Engineer
I've
been
a
business
manager.
I
manage
accounts
now,
so
my
career
is
zigzagged
everywhere,
but
the
one
thing
that's
threaded
all
of
my
career
decisions
is
that
I've
always
known
that
I
can
make
a
difference
and
I
can
always
make
the
voices
of
the
people
on
my
team
heard
and
I
will
always
go
to
bat
for
my
team
and
there's
a
lesson.
I
F
I
I
The
decisions
we
make
aren't
small
by
any
means
right
as
the
one
of
the
questions
from
the
first
round
is
like
the
decisions
we
make.
Don't
have
an
impact
for
5
10
20
years,
so
it
seems
like
their
rash.
It
might
seem
like
they're,
not
the
right
decisions
in
this
moment,
but
what
I
want
to
do
with
the
skill
I
want
to
develop
in
myself
is
that
resolve
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
characteristics
that
someone
that
sits
on
city
council
serving
their
City
their
Community
must
have.
I
Is
that
strong
resolve
to
know
that
what
we
do
here
matters
to
know
that
what
we
do
here
isn't
short-sighted
and
to
do
that
will
know
that
what
we
do
here
is
going
to
give
the
future
of
Bloomington
a
future
and
so
I'm
going
to
continue
to
work.
I,
love,
listening
to
podcasts
and
Leadership,
and
reading
books
on
leadership
and
talking
and
speaking
with
people
who
know
more
than
me,
who
have
more
experience
than
me
to
understand
how
I
can
take
that
criticism.
Turn
it
into
a
positive
turn.
A
So,
just
looking
at
the
clock,
we've
got
about
seven
minutes.
Left
we've
been
up
and
down
the
table
twice
if
you're,
okay,
I'd
like
to
just
keep
going
and
I'd
like
to
do
that,
if
we
could,
you
mentioned
leadership
and
I
appreciate
that
and
Leadership
comes
in
on
a
lot
of
different
flavors.
Obviously
tell
us
about
a
time
when
you
led
by
example,.
I
I
I
think
this
takes
me
back
to
when
I
was
working
in
a
retail
and
undergrad,
which
a
lot
of
people
do
and
when
you're
19,
20
years
old,
you're
kind
of
dumb
and
Brash,
but
it
was
a
lesson
I
learned
very
quickly
right
away
and
it's
kind
of
how
I've
Built
My
leadership
style.
I'm,
always
a
collaborative
servant.
Leader
and
I
realized
this
when
I
was
working
in
this
Electronics
retailer
that
supporting
my
support.
I
So
here
I'm
the
sales
person
like
you,
make
the
big
sale
like
it's
exciting
and
it's
what
people
see
right
away.
It's
the
numbers
that
managers
see
right
away,
but
it's
my
people
who
work
in
the
warehouse
that
support
me
to
finish
and
close
the
job
that
are
the
most
important.
If
I
don't
take
care
of
them,
they
don't
take
care
of
me
if
I'm
not
able
to
support
them
and
say
hey
this
sale,
probably
shouldn't
go
through,
because
the
the
client
just
doesn't
have
the
right
vehicle
to
take
it
home.
I
I
You
have
to
remove
obstacles
as
much
as
you
can,
because
when
you
do
that
it
enables
people
to
work
more
efficiently,
it
enables
people
to
be
themselves
and
show
you
who
they
are
so
that
you
can
build
your
team
so
that
you
can
achieve
things
together
and
that's
been
my
leadership
style
since
since
that
day
and
as
I've
learned
about
leadership
and
read
about
different
styles
of
leadership,
it's
clear
that
I
was
practicing.
These
values
already
before
I
even
knew
what
they
officially
were.
I
I
I
want
to
know
how
I
can
support
our
city
staff
and
being
the
best
city
staff
that
they
can
so
that
we
can
provide
the
services
necessary
to
to
our
residents
and
that
begins
with
genuine
conversation
with
people,
so
that
I
can
understand
what
they're
doing
and
learn
from
them
and
then
taking
that
and
and
putting
it
into
policies
that
can
help
support
that
to
go
forward.
So
that's
kind
of
how
I
address
it
and
that's
kind
of
kind
of
how
I
address
you
know
continued
learning,
moving
forward
in
my
life.
E
So,
typically
kind
of
once,
we've
wrapped
up
our
work
for
the
year
in
our
policy
and
issue,
update,
we'll
go
down
the
line
and
everybody
will
say:
here's
one
big
thing
that
I'm
really
excited
to
work
on
specifically
I
want
to
toss
it
in
the
hopper.
And
hopefully
this
will
come
out
of
the
work
plan.
So
say
we're
going
down
the
line,
everybody
shared
their
priorities
and
it
gets
to
you.
What
would
you
want
to
toss
on
the
hopper
for
the
year.
I
I
I
think
that
would
breed
more
Small,
Business
Development
I.
Think
that
would
give
incentive
for
business
to
come
here.
I
think
that
would
be
our
own
incubator
and
then
being
able
to
provide
those
businesses
as
they
grow
continued
support
so
that
they
choose
to
headquarter
here
where
they
begin,
because
we
had
this
idea
and
I
think
that's
something
that
I
would
love
to
toss
in,
and
it's
something
that
I
think
I've
heard
a
lot
of
residents
say
like
we
wish.
We
had
more
small
businesses.
We
wish
we
had.
I
F
I
Would
say:
city
council
member
listens
because
you
got
a
lot
of
voices
coming
to
you
and
I
would
say
a
city
council
member
has
vision,
I
think
that's
something!
That's
underrated
nowadays
as
having
a
vision
and
working
towards
that,
because
without
that
Vision
what's
Bloomington
going
to
be
like,
and
sometimes
it's
it's
difficult,
I
think
a
lot
of
when
I
think
about
it.
I
Think
a
lot
of
business
could
benefit
from
taking
that
Long
View,
and
so
with
that
Vision
with
that
long-term
plan,
what
we
want
to
see
for
the
future
of
Bloomington
so
that
those
who
come
after
us
can
continue
to
build
on
the
work
that
we've
done.
I
think
that's
where
city
council
means
the
most
and
I
think
it's
underappreciated,
sometimes
but
people
care
and
I.
Think
that's
great
too.
I
If
you
didn't
have
anyone
that
showed
up
to
yell
at
you
or
state
their
position
and
make
sure
that
you
heard
it,
we
wouldn't
know
what
to
do
either.
So
it's
a
give
and
take,
but
I
I
appreciate
the
work
that
you
all.
Do
we
appreciate
the
the
effort
that
all
of
the
other
candidates
have
put
forth
I
mean
it
gives
me
great
optimism
to
know
that
there
are
so
many
people
who
care
about
Community
who
care
about
Bloomington
who
are
willing
to
put
themselves
forward
to
be
ridiculed.
A
You
very
good
Mr
Moon.
Thank
you
thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
Thank
you
for
your
continued
interest
in
this
position
and
providing
the
information
that
we
got
just
to
let
you
know
we're
we're
hearing
from
five
people
tonight.
Your
number
two
of
five
as
I,
think
you
know
we're
not
going
to
be
making
a
decision
tonight
or
having
discussion
that
will
happen
at
our
January
23rd
meeting.
So
just
to
let
you
know
what
the
next
steps
are
all
right,
all
right,
very
good!
I
A
Just
fine,
thank
you
so
very
much
for
asking
thank
you
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
I
appreciate
your
continued
interest
in
the
position
and
your
willingness
to
come
back
and
spend
a
half
hour
with
us
tonight.
Once
again,
the
shot
o'clock
we'll
be
running
at
a
half
hour.
So
what
we're
going
to
do
is
simply
make
it
a
lot
less
formal
than
the
other
than
our
first
time
there.
You
don't
have
the
questions
ahead
of
time,
so
we're
going
to
ask
questions.
A
We'll
probably
have
some
follow-up,
a
little
conversation
back
and
forth
just
an
opportunity
to
get
to
know
you
a
little
bit
better
and
add
this
to
the
the
Gathering
of
information
that
we
have
on
you
and
the
other
candidates
to
make
our
decision
great.
So,
as
I
said,
we're
going
to
Simply
go
up
and
down
the
line
here,
and
it
will
start
as
I.
Ask
the
first
question,
which
is
this.
G
A
G
Well,
as
I
had
mentioned
in
the
interview
on
Saturday,
there
were
a
few
that
resonated
in
one
was,
you
know,
the
being
coming
together
in
a
shared
community
and
taking
responsibility
and
I
still
feel
very
strongly
about
that
that
community
and
Council
need
to
be
responsible
to
each
other.
The
other
core
part
or
core
value
of
the
Strategic
plan
had
to
be
with
being
bold,
making
those
decisions
and
again,
as
elected
officials.
G
You
are
here
to
make
those
bold
decisions
and,
and
the
Bold
decisions
really
frankly
need
to
be
made.
You
are
elected
by
the
residents
of
of
Bloomington,
so
it's
broken
down
into
three
categories:
the
the
Strategic
plan
so
having
a
healthy,
Vibrant
Community
again,
that's
what
communities
are
really
talking
about,
not
only
the
city
council,
but
many
other
City
councils
being
able
to
have
a
sustainable,
Economic,
Development
and
thriving
Community
again
is
important.
So
those
are
the
ones
that
really
resonate
with
myself
mayor.
C
G
G
So
whether
if
it
is
race
whether
it
is
sex,
whether
it's
your
your
background,
your
ethnicity,
those
all
play
a
part
of
that
and
as
far
as
what
what
that
means
to
me
in
in
the
importance
of
that
is,
we
have
to
start
embracing
equity
and
inclusion
in
all
different
fronts.
I
think
of
you
know,
housing
a
perfect
example.
D
G
Thank
you,
member
council,
member,
Lohman
and
great
questions.
You
know
I
think
about
again
tying
back
to
the
Strategic
plan
and
having
Community
healthy
communities
and
that
ties
in
specifically
and
directly
to
the
world's
Expo
in
the
theme
Healthy
Communities.
So
I
think
that
is
where
I
see
that
project
connecting
the
dots
the
water
park
is
a
very
interesting
topic.
G
Or
what
have
you
so
ensuring
that,
when
we
square
up
Economic
Development
projects
a
we
have
to
make
sure
that
they're
sustainable,
that
they
will
be
here
for,
for
you
know,
communities
and
and
for
residents
to
come
in
the
near
future,
but
we
also
have
to
make
a
wise
decision
on
the
fiscal
and
financial
investments
as
well
and
that
that
has
to
be.
You
know
where
you're
weighing
as
a
council.
G
G
E
G
The
first
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
a
long-term
investment
in
transit
for
our
community,
specifically
within
the
city
of
Bloomington.
I
feel
very
strongly
that
if
you're
going
to
have
a
community
that
is
thriving
from
you
know,
just
Economic
Development
to
Bringing
workers
into
our
community.
Part
of
that
is
having
adequate
Transit
connectivity
and
services
available.
So
I
think
we
have
to
look
at
that
in
a
whole
different
way.
Transit
today
is
not
the
transit.
We
had
even
pre-covered
where
a
bus
is
running
down.
G
Lindale
Avenue,
stopping
at
every
other
Corner
Transit.
Today
is
more
multimodal.
It's
bike.
It's
Uber
Lyft!
It's
using
technology
to
be
able
to
efficiently
move
people
in
and
around
Bloomington,
so
I
think
that's
one
of
the
bigger
challenges
because
I
I
kind
of
talk
about
this
three-legged
stool,
you
need
Transit
and
you
need
housing
and
you
need
Workforce
and
you
got
to
have
all
three
of
those
to
balance
the
stool
and
if
you
don't
have
one
what
happens,
the
stool
Falls
over
and
I
believe
that's
what
happens
to
our
community.
G
Thank
you
very
much
council
member
delisandro.
You
know,
I
have
had
the
great
experience
of
working
with
the
business
Community
here
in
Bloomington
for
well
over.
You
know,
10
years
as
I
served
as
the
chamber
president
for
the
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
so
I
think
when
I
reflect
back
on
my
time
and
talking
to
the
businesses
and
balancing
the
needs
of
the
organization
along
with
the
businesses
here
in
our
community
because
nobody's
going
to
get
a
hundred
percent
so
where
where's
the
middle
ground
here
and
I.
G
Think
that's
where
myself
and
and
just
my
experience
science
can
be
a
benefit
and
value
to
the
council
and
again
those
are
difficult
conversations
that
have
to
be
had,
and
we
know
businesses
have
varying
degrees
of
of
what
their
needs
are,
whether
if
you're
building
a
water
park
over
at
the
mall
and
you're,
using
Tiff
or
if
you're,
looking
at
Redevelopment
down
Lindale
Avenue
or
even
your
business
districts
that
are
throughout
the
city
of
Bloomington.
So
there's
a
balancing
act
of
of
the
needs
of
that
business.
But
it's
it's.
G
Ensuring
that
there's
fairness
across
the
board,
so
I
think
that
all
businesses
want
to
see
is
a.
They
want
to
be
heard
they
want
to.
They
want
to
have
your
ear,
they
want
to
be
able
to
articulate
what
is
keeping
them
up
at
night.
What's
their
heartburn,
how
are
they
making
ends
meet?
You
know
the
businesses
have
had
some
significant
challenges
over
the
last
few
years,
due
to
covid
I
saw
many
businesses
out
in
Dakota
County
having
to
make
extremely
hard
decisions
decisions
of
do.
G
They
continue
with
an
employee
or
do
they
have
to
cut
back
on
Health
Care?
Are
they
willing
to
sacrifice
themselves
and
I
gotta,
say
for
and
I
saw
this
in
Bloomington
too
I
think
this
Council.
This
city
should
be
very
proud
of
its
business
Community,
because
we
talk
about
diversity
in
diverse
it's,
a
diverse
business,
community
and
I
think
we
all
should
be
very
proud
of
the
businesses
that
are
here.
Everybody
wants
our
community
to
do
well
and
to
thrive.
We
just
have
different
ways
as
to
how
we
get
there.
G
Mayor
council
members
I
bring
a
sense
of
humor
this
evening,
so
as
a
as
a
leader,
I
am
very
humbled
to
say
that
I
have
had
to
make
some
very
tough
decisions
and
decisions
that
were
not
necessarily
popular
from
a
whole
range
of
constituents.
Whether
it
was
businesses
that
I
served
whether
it
was
city
council
members
in
the
cities
that
I
had
to
work
with,
and
the
residents
I
there
were
some
difficult
decisions
on
that.
G
But
I
stand
firm
today
that
those
were
the
right
decisions
to
be
made,
and
a
couple,
for
instance,
is
when
I
was
with
the
Minneapolis
Convention
and
visitors
Association.
We
again
as
a
organization
had
to
look
for
other
different
revenue
streams
to
be
sustainable
because
the
City
of
Minneapolis
said
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
give
you
more
money
and
you
better
figure
out
how
you're
going
to
you
know
bring
in
additional
funds.
G
So
we
decided
to
go
in
the
software
business
and
we
developed
a
software
system
that
was
made
for
convention
and
visitors
bureaus
by
convention
and
visitor
bureaus,
and
it
was
great
it
was
a
a
web-based
application.
It
was
a
new,
a
new
platform,
lots
of
great
excitement.
Well,
we
had
to
go
to
the
city
for
some
financing,
and
so
we
first
went
for
a
five
million
dollar
loan
and
the
city
said.
Yes,
we
think
this
is
great.
G
G
Now
the
city
chose
not
to
further
investment,
and
then
the
city
had
called
in
the
loan
and
really
the
association
just
recently
paid
off
that
loan
to
the
city.
But
it
was
a
decision
that
we
had
to
stand
by
because
we
were
asked
to
find
a
different
alternative
of
Revenue
sources
for
our
organization,
so
that
is
one
I
can
go
on
with
several
more
but
I.
Think
that's
a
good
one.
G
G
That
area
is
really
what
I
remember
and
recall
when
I
was
here
at
the
Bloomington
Chamber
of
Commerce,
that
was
where
things
were
going
to
happen
with
the
city
of
Bloomington
and
where
the
investment
really
needed
to
be
made,
but
again
I'm
not
saying
that
the
decision,
because
decisions
are
still
being
looked
at
but
I,
think
again.
That's
a
decision
that
this
council
is
going
to
have
to
embrace
fully
and
know
it's
going
to
have
a
long-term
residual
impact
on
its
residents.
E
G
A
great
question
council
member
Martin
in
there
are
several
people
that
come
to
mind,
but
the
first
and
foremost
is
my
father.
Tom
skallen
and
the
woman
you
see
here
today
in
front
of
you
is
a
direct
result
of
the
investment
that
my
father
made
in
me
and
also
he
believed
in
in
me
when
I
didn't
believe
in
myself.
I
wasn't
sure
what
I
wanted
to
do
when
I
grew
up
heck
I'm
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
I
want
to
be
when
I
grow
up,
but
his
leadership
ability.
G
G
We
have
to
work
our
way
up
to
the
51st
floor
of
the
IDS
Center
and
he
said
you
need
to
get
down
to
the
garage
on
39th
and
Nicollet,
because
that's
where
you're
going
to
be
office,
officing
and
I
thought
fine.
So
I
go
down
to
this
garage
and
you
know:
council,
member
Martin,
I,
remember,
I
sat
there
as
the
mice
were
running
across
and
the
cats
were
chasing
the
mice
and
I'm.
G
Looking
around
and
I
smell
oil
and
Diesel
and
I
thought
what
have
I
done
so
terrible
to
deserve
this
kind
of
punishment
and
then
that
Moment
of
clarity
came
to
me
Marine,
you
are,
you
have
been
given
a
gift,
you
have
been
given
an
opportunity,
go
for
it,
and
I
did
and
I
learned
how
to
run
a
business
from
the
ground
up
from
changing
oil
to
ordering
parts.
My
father
stayed
with
me
every
step
of
the
way
I
made.
He
eventually
turned
the
business
over
for
me
to
run.
G
I
made
bad
decisions,
but
I
learned
from
those
decisions,
and
she
never
wants
reprimanded
me
on
a
bad
decision.
He
said:
I
support
your
decisions,
we're
going
to
make
good
decisions,
we're
going
to
meet
bad
decisions,
so
he's
not
a
famous
person,
but
to
me
he
is
someone
that
I
will
always
be
grateful
for
and
I
know,
he's
looking
down
right
now
going
go
get
him.
F
Foreign
I'm
curious
about
maybe
it's
a
follow-up
to
councilmember
Martin's
conversation
with
you,
but
I'm
curious
about
the
way
that
you
see
the
role
of
city
government
and
what
complements
your
experience
as
somebody
who
knows
how
to
run
a
business
and
what
conflicts
with
your
understanding
of
how
to
run
a
business
I'm.
That
makes
sense.
G
Yeah
does
council
member
dalessandro
it's
a
complicated
question
as
well,
but
so
there's
a
big
there's,
a
a
difference
here
of
running
a
business
in
running
a
city,
even
though
some
will
say
well,
if
you
would,
you
know,
run
the
city
the
way
I
run
my
business.
The
city
would
be
much
better
off
well
until
you
really
get
into
the
trenches
of
how
to
run
a
city
and
just
the
complexity
of
the
city,
just
the
financing,
the
budgets.
G
City
government
but
I
think
they
also
don't
understand
the
complexity
of
it
as
well,
because
again,
if
you're
you
own
your
own
business,
well,
these
decision
decisions
are
easily
made,
because
you
will
only
spend
the
money
that
you
have
but
they're,
not
looking
at
necessarily
investment
in
capital
into
City
assets
and
infrastructure
and
the
biggest
thing
that
I
go
back
to
as
I
talk
to
businesses
and
residents.
The
city
has
a
primary
responsibility
to
its
constituents
and
those
are
Public,
Safety
and
maintaining
infrastructure.
G
To
me,
those
are
the
first
and
two
most
important
things
that
a
city
needs
to
do
now.
What
can
Marine
do
to
help
that
I
can
help,
have
those
conversations
and
have
the
the
dialogue
to
be
able
to
come
and
work
with?
All
of
you
to
come
up
with
sound
public
policy
is
something
I
am
extremely
excited
about,
and
I
get
energized,
because
I
think,
based
on
my
experiences
in
the
private
sector,
but
also
understanding
the
complexities
of
running
city,
government
I,
think
I
can
help
bridge.
You
know
you
know,
bridge
the
gap.
F
G
You
think
I,
wouldn't
council,
member
dalessandro
I,
don't
think
I
would
tackle
the
city
budget
and
try
to
get
that.
Nor
would
I
try
to
explain
the
Tiff
and
how
Tiff
works
because
again
very
complex
things,
but
what
I
think
I
would
talk
about
and
explain
is
how
process
works
within
city
government
and
how
ordinances
come
before
you.
G
A
So
we're
about
seven
minutes:
we've
been
up
and
down
the
days
or
twice
now,
but
we're
gonna
keep
going.
If
that's
okay
with
you
because
I'd
like
to
fill
it
the
whole
time
and
and
sure
if
we
can
connect
sure
mayor
that
conversation,
councilmember,
Lowman
I,
think
we
skipped
you
I,
don't
know
inadvertently
or
oh.
D
G
G
How
does
that
come
together?
How
how
what?
What
does
that
look
like
and
what
I
can
tell
you
is
the
priorities
of
this
Council
over
the
course
of
the
the
next.
You
know
five
to
seven
years,
which
is
pretty
much
what
the
Strategic
plan
is
is
something
that
you
know
my
skill
sets
bring
to
help.
Have
those
tough
conversations
to
be
able
to
ask,
because
a
lot
of
it
is
asking
questions
the
right
questions
and
no
question
is
a
dumb
question.
G
So
again,
how
do
I
align
you
know
with
my
strengths,
I
I,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
first
interview,
I
am
a
strong
leader,
I
am
open-minded,
I
have
critical
and
strategic
thinking.
I
have
integrity
and
I.
Think
Integrity
is
is
probably
the
most
important
thing,
because
once
you
lose
your
integrity,
you
lose
it
all.
So
really
kind
of
that
would
be
one
question:
council,
member
Lowman
skill
sets
and
aligning
with
the
Strategic
plan
and
the
council
priorities.
A
And
if
I
could
just
build
on
that
a
bit
Marine
so
you've
I
mean
you
talked
about
your
history
with
the
Minneapolis
city
council.
You
certainly
worked
with
this
Bloomington
City
Council
on
latitude
officials
and
I
know
in
your
most
recent
role.
You
worked
with
all
kinds
of
elected
officials
in
Dakota
County.
A
So
if
you
could,
what
give
us
an
example,
all
those
folks
you've
worked
with
you've,
seen
successful
local
governments,
you've
seen
less
successful
local
governments,
what
three
attributes
of
elected
officials
would
you
emulate
and
what
three
attributes
of
elected
officials
that
you
worked
with?
Would
you
say
that's
the
reason
why
they're
not
as
successful
as
they
could
be.
G
Mayor
Bussey,
thank
you
for
that
question.
I,
don't
know!
If
there's
going
to
be
a
right
answer
to
this
question,
but
I
will
give
it
my
my
best
shot
so
I
think
the
three
attributes
of
a
successful
local,
City
official
City
council
member
is
really
again.
It
goes
back
to
the
ability
to
to
listen
and
and
listen
with,
not
only
your
ears,
but
with
your
your
mind
and
your
heart
as
well,
because
we're
you
know,
a
lot
of
decisions
are
made,
are
very
passionate.
G
Important
decisions
to
many
so
having
the
ability
to
to
listen,
I
think
is
a
strong
attribute
about
a
city
council.
Member
needs
to
stay
the
course
and
to
stay
firm
on
your
decisions.
I
have
the
utmost
regard
for
City,
Council,
Members,
public
officials,
County
Commissioners,
who
have
made
those
difficult
decisions
and
stand
by
them,
because
you
know
you
can
have
a
Target
on
your
back
pretty
darn
quickly
when
you
make
a
vote
or
a
decision.
That
is
not.
You
know
in
favor
to
the
public,
and
so
you
have
to
be
careful.
G
Those
are
two
so
I'm
going
to
get
into
attributes
that
are
not
of
endearing
and
where
I
think
that's
where
you
see
council
members,
maybe
only
have
one
term
because
they're
not
going
to
get
reelected
and
again
that
gets
back
to
a
have.
They
practice.
Integrity,
honesty
and
and
being
forthrites
and
I
have
seen
council
members
make
promises
that
they
frankly
should
not
have
made
those
promises,
and
that
was
the
downfall
of
their
political
career.
G
So
I
think
you
know
it's,
it's
not
a
popular
seat
that
you
all
are
sitting
in
and
hopefully
the
seat
I
will
be
in.
But
you
you,
those
endearing
qualities.
Nobody
can
can
fault
you
on
that,
but
you
cannot
those
those
tough
decisions
and
you
know
those
attributes
where
you
promised
the
world
and
you
don't
deliver
short-term
career
as
a
local
unit.
Councilmember.
A
F
G
First
of
all,
I've
really
enjoyed
this
conversation
because
I
think
you've
asked
some
really
good
questions,
but
you
know:
I
I
have
to
look
back
to
when
I
ran
for
County,
Commissioner
and
you're
out
door,
knocking
and
you
say:
hey
I'm,
Marine
I'm
running
for
a
county
commissioner
seat
and
they're
like
they
stare
at
you
and
Clay
is
like.
What's
that
I
mean
you
know,
and
you
don't
have
very
long
to
explain,
because
if
you
try
to
get
into
the
minutia
or
really
into
the
weeds,
you
lost
them.
G
So
you
know
the
way
I
would
describe
it
is
we
are
responsible
for
setting
policy
and
the
vision
and
the
direction
that
makes
the
city
of
Bloomington,
successful
and
vibrant
and
why
you
want
to
stay
here?
Why
you
want
to
raise
your
family
here?
Why
you
want
your
grandchildren
to
stay
here
and
you
wear
many
hats.
As
a
council
member,
whether
you
sit
on
various
committees
or
commissions,
you
all
have
to
carry
weight
here
in
ensuring
that
the
city
is
successful.
G
So
it's
it's
a
hard
thing
to
explain
because
again
the
general
public
will
just
stare
at
you.
If
you
get
into
well,
we
set
the
property
tax
levy,
and
this
is
how
we
make
our
decision.
They
just
want
to
make
sure
their
property
taxes
are
low.
That's
all
you
know
how
you
get.
There
is
a
it's
up
to
you,
foreign.
A
Thank
you
so
very
much
for
being
with
us
this
evening.
Thank
you
for
your
continued
interest
in
this
position.
Spending
some
time
and
talking
with
us
a
bit
more.
The
next
steps
will
be
where,
where
you're
number
three
of
five
tonight,
we're
talking
to
five
folks
is,
as
you
probably
know,
and
we
won't
be
doing
any
discussion
or
decision
making
tonight
we're
gonna
hold
that
off
until
our
January
23rd
meeting.
A
G
A
A
Appreciate
your
being
here
this
evening
and
appreciate
your
willingness
to
spend
a
30
minute
time
period
with
us
on
this
evening
and
just
give
us
an
opportunity
to
ask
some
more
questions
and
get
to
know
you
a
little
bit
better.
Unlike
our
first
interview,
the
you
don't
have
you
didn't
have
the
questions
ahead
of
time,
so
this
will
be
a
bit
different
and
a
bit
more
informal.
A
All
right,
we
have
30
minutes
in
the
the
shot
clock
on
the
wall,
we'll
let
you
know
how
much
time
we
do
have.
We've
got
a
couple
of
folks
who
stepped
out
I,
think
they're
grabbing
some
water
or
some
tea
or
something
but
I
think
we'll
get
started
anyway
and
I
will
kick
us
off
and
I
will
ask
what
elements
of
the
city's
strategic
plan
resonate
most
with
you
and
why.
H
H
Okay,
so
to
start
I'm,
just
gonna
start
with
the
mission,
because
I
love
the
mission.
Our
mission
is
to
cultivate
an
enduring
and
remarkable
Community
where
people
want
to
be
whenever
it
cultivate
it.
Really,
it
really
brings
every
single
element
together
of
what
the
council
has
established
for
the
future
of
Bloomington.
H
We're
talking
about
community
in
straining
that
Community
this
is
I
can
I
have
said
before.
On
our
last
my
last
interview
how
I
believe
that
this
is
a
very
strong
community
and
I
think
as
we
continue
to
work
towards
those
those
goals,
we're
straining
in
the
community,
which
is
what
we
really
want
to
see
happening
access
to
Opportunities
totally.
You
know
we
all
need
and
deserve
access
to
Opportunities.
H
We
want
all
of
our
Bloomington
residents
all
ages
to
have
those
type
of
Acts,
those
those
type
of
opportunities
and
the
access
to
get
there
Safety
and
Security.
So
I
guess
I'm
talking
about
the
core
values
and
I
guess
the
core
values
really
resonate
to
what
I
think
or
what
I
really
want
to
see
for
the
community
in
the
future.
H
Thank
you,
council,
member
Carter,
that's
a
very
good
question
and
I
love.
It
I
love
it
because,
when
I
think
about
Equity,
it
makes
me
think
about
how
all
human
beings
have
different
experiences.
We
all
come
with
different
backgrounds,
different
experiences,
different
different
moments
in
life
and
in
in
different
stages.
To
say
it
in
a
better
way.
H
Equity
to
me
is
providing
opportunities
to
everyone
and
to
allow
for
the
people
that
have
different
opportunities
to
get
to
the
same
place.
So
Equity
is
given
to
everyone
according
to
their
needs,
and
so
we
have
equity
and
we
have
equality
as
well
and
sometimes
people
kind
of
misunderstand
them
all.
They
kind
of
you
know
mix
them
both,
but
when
we,
when
we
start
with
Equity,
then
we
can
get
to
a
point
of
equality
where
then
we
can
give
opportunity
to
everyone,
equal
opportunities
and
then
the
second
part
of
your
question.
H
I
think
the
city
has
taken
a
lot
of
steps
towards
providing
more
equity
and
inclusion.
When
we
talk
about
inclusion,
the
policies,
the
kind
of
policies
that
you're
setting
that
will
continue
to
sit,
the
briefly
they're,
definitely
taken
into
consideration
inclusion.
We
are
being
inclusive
when
we
talk
about
transportation
and
we
make
changes
and
we
make
improvements.
H
D
H
I
had
the
opportunity
to
watch
that
part
of
your
meeting,
so
I
I
appreciate
the
question
wow
that
that
was
a
very
interesting
one,
because
when
we
made
the
decision
when,
when
the
island
came
to
the
Planning
Commission,
there
was
not
as
many
people
that
came
forward
to
address
their
concerns.
But
when
you
have
your
meeting,
they
were
definitely
a
good
good
group.
People
of
residents
that
came
to
you
and
I
just
thought
that
that
was
such
an
important
moment
because
really
listening
to
more
people,
people
being
all
of
a
sudden.
H
Well,
they
have
said
they
have
been
informed
kind
of
the
last
minute
right,
I'm,
not
quite
sure
what
the
whole
process
was
from
the
from
the
side
of
the
city.
But
coming
with
that
concern
and
with
the
concern
for
their
own
Community
I
heard,
we
are
very
worried
about
the
children
that
have
to
walk
through
those
streets
or
through
this
area
and
for
the
council
to
listen
to
that
moment,
to
listen
to
those
concerns
and
to
have
a
change
in
the
decision
to
have
that
flexibility
to
then
continue
to
work
together
with
the
community.
H
That
is
something
that
I
would
do
as
well.
That
is
something
that
I
would
do
as
an
elected
official
or
as
a
member
of
the
city
council
stop
listen
again,
think
about
it
in
depth.
Reconsider
regroup,
come
back
and
look
for
other
options,
or
continue
to
work
together
also
with
members
of
the
staff,
because
there
are
an
important
element
of
this
type
of
situation.
E
H
H
This
man
has
been
a
remarkable
man
in
our
city
that
has
done
a
lot
of
things
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
of
the
city.
Where
I
come
from
my
hometown,
which
is
Kali
one
of
the
biggest
cities
in
Colombia.
He
worked
alongside
with
with
many
people
in
the
government,
but
then
he
also
knew
how
to
work
with
the
community.
He
also
knew
how
to
work
with
the
human
beings
into
address
the
human
beings
and
to
really
listen,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
admire
about
him
was.
F
Good
evening
good
evening,
so,
as
we
know,
you're
currently
serving
both
on
the
Planning
Commission
and
on
the
school
board,
and
your
appointment
would
create
vacancies
for
both
of
those
units.
I'm
curious.
What
is
it
that
you're
not
able
to
do
in
those
capacities
that
lead
you
to
want
to
be
on
this
Council?
If
you
can
articulate
a
couple
of
specifics,
I'd
love
to
understand
the
motivation
behind
the
the
the
reasons
why
you
think
there's
more
to
do
here?
Yeah,
okay,.
H
Thank
you
an
excellent
question.
Thank
you
and
I
kind
of
thought.
You
would
ask
that
question
as
well,
because
other
people
have
asked
me
so
Nelly,
why?
Why
did
you
put
your
name
in
there
for
for
the
council?
You
know:
do
you
want
to
leave
public
education?
Do
you
want
to
leave
a
school
board?
It's
not
that
I'm
leaving
the
school
board.
It's
not
that
I
live
in
the
schools.
H
It's
not
that
I'm
leaving
public
education
is
that
it
is
the
time
to
do
it
and
I
will
explain
why
and
I
need
a
whole
map,
because
for
me
it's
really
easy
to
understand,
but
then
for
others
I
needed
this
for
you
to
be
able
to
understand
it
for
members
of
my
community,
so
this
will
take
a
little
longer,
but
so
I've
been
on
the
Bloomington
school
board
for
11
years
in
four
and
a
half
years
in
the
Planning
Commission.
Those
two
jobs
have
complemented
each
other
in
many
different
ways.
H
Through
the
last
years,
30
years,
total
in
education
I
fully
understand
how
education
is
the
base
of
our
society
and
so
understanding
that
led
me
to
recognize
the
needs
of
the
people
in
our
communities
and
what
elements
of
the
society
really
influence.
The
success
of
children,
who
then
later
become
the
adults
in
our
community
in
our
society
and
will
become
the
Future
Leaders.
H
Children
also
have
families
and
families
are
human
beings
with
needs
and
struggles,
and
so
the
elements
that
surround
their
lives
like
housing,
the
City
Life,
Services,
Recreation,
Health,
environment,
everything
it
has
a
big
impact
on
their
lives
and
will
continue
to
being
on
the
Planning
Commission.
Also
like
I,
said
before.
Allow
me
to
see
this
in
a
very
closer
way,
so
we
tell
almost
12
years
serving
on
the
board.
I
think
this
is
the
time
for
me,
especially
after
the
challenges
of
covet
19..
H
That's
when
I
saw
it
even
more
clearly,
because
19
have
so
many
challenges.
It
has
deeply
impacted
the
quality
of
life
of
many
people.
It
has
impacted
the
mental
health
of
our
children,
and
our
children
need
to
be
able
to
have
access
within
the
city
to
to
cope
with
those
challenges
that
they're
having
now
so
when
I
talk
about
access
to
other
things
in
the
city
is
Recreation,
for
example,
because
we
know
that
Recreation
is
a
big
component
of
the
different
struggles
that
we
have.
You
know
like.
H
It
helps
us
so
if
our
children
are
struggling
struggling
because
of
anxiety,
depression,
providing
services
to
them
to
be
able
to
do
something
different
that
is
healthy
for
their
bodies
and
Minds
is
very
important.
Having
a
stable
housing
right,
that's
another
another
situation.
So
all
those
components
together,
things
that
lead
to
better
communities,
is
what
is
attracting
me
to
now
come
here
and
be
here
with
you.
H
So
I
would
like
to
see
more
participation
of
our
families
in
our
students
and
everything
that
has
to
do
not
only
with
the
academics
but
with
their
future
with
their
lives
in
general,
the
well-being
of
our
communities.
We
know
what
happens
when
people
don't
have
access
to
many
different
resources
and
what
the
impact
that
that
can
cause
in
our
community
in
the
future.
So
when
I
talk
about
the
impact
of
covid-19
I'm
talking
about
what
we
can
possibly
see
in
the
future,
that
can
be
extremely
challenging.
H
So
going
back
to
your
question,
what
is
it
that
I'm
not
getting
in
both
of
those
that
then
I
want
to
come
here
now?
Is
that
I'm
getting
a
lot
from
both
of
those
things?
And
that's
the
reason
when
I
come
in
here
now,
because
I
want
to
put
those
things
together
and
continue
to
put
it
to
the
service
of
my
community.
F
Quick
follow-up,
if
I
could
thank
you
for
that,
so
one
of
the
things
I've
noticed
is
that
the
school
board-
and
so
you
have
two
kinds
of
different
experiences
with
Planning
Commission
with
school
board.
Yeah,
the
the
the
school
board
is
not
known
for
being
I,
don't
want
to
call
it
accessible
to
the
to
the
public,
but
I
know
that
there
are
certain
policies
with
the
school
board
that
you
know:
individuals
don't
respond
to
emails
or
individuals,
don't
make
public
statements.
F
F
Maybe
what
what
you
see
is
both
a
positive
or
maybe
a
challenge
for
you
as
it
as
it
would
be
to
step
into
that
for
lack
of
a
better
way
to
put
it
kind
of
Spotlight
of
sorts,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
being
in
a
more
of
a
school
board
role
where
it's.
You
know,
a
unified
body
that
that
makes
those
statements
and
things
like
that.
Yes,.
H
H
We
have
a
different
way
of
doing
things
at
the
school
board
level
because
we
function
and
we
work
as
a
one
body,
and
so
we
have
set
a
few,
a
number
of
how
do
we
say
Protocols
of
how
we
work
together
as
a
as
one
unified
community.
So
we've
done
not
Community
body.
So
we've
done
a
lot
of
training
around
this
in
in
which
way
do
we
want
to
communicate
with
our
families
or
are
we
able
to
and
who's
representing
our
body,
which
is
the
chair
of
the
boar?
H
H
School
Board
is
more
government,
so
that's
the
big
difference
that
I
can
see
in
the
Planning
Commission
and
I
can
tell
you
that
I
definitely
feel
more
comfortable
talking
to
people
one-on-one,
which
the
Planning
Commission
does
not
allow
me
to
do,
but
the
school
board
actually
allows
me
to
do
that.
You
know
people
that
grab
the
phone
and
call
me
people
that
come
and
talk
to
us
directly.
There's
many
different
ways
that
the
school
board
member
gets
involved.
H
H
Well,
I'm
an
educator
and
I'm
a
mom,
so
I
make
decisions
constantly
that
sometimes
are
not
very
popular,
no,
but
a
very
challenging
one.
As
I
mentioned
in
our
last
interview,
the
biggest
challenge
was
the
first
couple
of
years
of
this
pandemic
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
I
mean
that
was
something
I
had
never
seen
as
a
as
a
as
a
member
of
the
school
board.
H
A
H
So
during
this
time
we
have
to
make
quick
decisions.
I
have
to
be
in
constant
communication
with
members
of
the
administration,
and
that
was
instant
and
it
was
like
at
the
very
beginning.
It
was
by
the
minute,
and
we
have
to
make
very,
very
hard
decisions
and
I
knew
that
I
was
there
in
a
way
representing
the
rest
of
the
board
as
well
and
working
together
with
them
and
so
difficult
decisions.
H
C
Okay,
I
have
to
decide
which
question
I'm
going
to
answer.
So
can
you
talk
about
you
know
if
you
were
to
be
appointed
to
council?
What
would
be
one
of
your
number
one
priorities?
I
think
councilmember
Martin
asked
a
question
similar
in
a
previous
interview.
You
know
we
typically
at
the
beginning
of
each
meeting
of
the
year,
go
down
the
diocin
and
say
what
our
top
priorities
are
for
the
year.
So
as
if
you
were
to
be
appointed,
you
know
what
would
be
one
of
your
top
priorities
or
top
two
or
three
priorities.
H
I
have
already
talked
to
people
and
we're
always
it's
always
very
center.
Around
education,
but
I
want
to
know
and
connect
more
with
our
people
with
our
Bloomington
residents.
So
that
is
a
top
priority
for
me:
Community
engagement
and
also
to
continue
to
work
together
in
the
development
of
this,
the
the
mission
or
try
and
look
for
another
word,
but
in
a
strategic
plan.
H
That's
where
I
want
to
go
and
then
definitely
I
will
continue
to
go
deeper
into
all
the
different
issues,
because
there's
so
many
components
to
the
city,
it's
just
so
bad.
So
big,
that's
another
thing.
I
need
to
do
too.
That
I
want
to
do
get
deeper
into
the
older
issues
and
then
make
a
decision
where
I
want
to
go
next
to
yeah.
D
H
Well,
I
tend
to
be
a
pretty
busy
busy
person,
so
I'm
kind
of
surprised.
You
haven't
asked
me
how
how
do
you
think
you're
going
to
handle
those
Nelly
I?
Think
you
saw
you,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
my
resume.
It's
pretty
extensive
in
terms
of
the
many
things
that
I
tend
to
do
and
that's
just
because
it's
part
of
who
I
am
it's
part
of
my
personality.
I
like
to
be
involved
and
I
like
to
learn
I
love
to
learn.
H
H
How
am
I
gonna
do
this
right
now,
I'm
in
the
school
board
in
the
Planning
Commission
by
coming
to
the
council,
I
will
be
in
one
body:
I
will
not
be
into
different
bodies
and
I
want
to
be
able
to
focus
on
one
now
I'm
ready
to
do
that.
I
have
now
the
experience
I
gained
enough,
not
enough
knowledge
in
the
Planning
Commission
to
come,
and
you
know,
put
those
two
together
to
the
service
of
the
community.
I
also
know
how
to
balance
my
time.
H
I
know
how
to
distribute
my
time
that
in
somehow
I
make
it
work
I
make
it
work
for
my
job
I
make
it
work
for
a
family
business
I
make
it
work
for
my
service
in
my
community.
So
the
same
thing
goes
for
when
I'm
campaigning
so
take
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
that
too,
because
when
I
I
have
campaign,
you
all
know
that
campaigning
is
really
difficult.
It
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
I
have
managed
to
do
to
work
on
campaigns
to
finance.
F
H
Question
oh
interesting:
okay,
coming
from
the
governance
perspective,
I'd
say
that
the
council
is
in
charge
of
the
of
the
all
the
the
legislative
part
of
the
city
right
of
the
policies
beyond
that.
Well
beyond
beyond
being
in
charge
of
ordinances
and
reasoning,
and
all
that
stuff
definitely
represent.
The
community
represent
your
community.
That's
another
big
part
of
the
job
represent
Advocate
advocate
for
your
community.
A
So
we're
down
to
about
five
minutes
and
we've
been
up
and
down
the
days
a
couple
of
times
now,
but
it
I
mean
if
you're,
okay
with
it
we'd
like
to
keep
going
just,
maybe
ask
a
couple
more
quick
questions
if
to
fill
out
our
20
minutes,
I
figured
you'd
say
yes,
yes,
so
you've
talked
about
leadership
a
couple
of
times
and
Leadership
comes
in
a
lot
of
different
flavors,
including
leading
by
example.
Yeah.
A
H
A
very
good
question:
I
am
trying
to
think
the
one
thing
I
can
I
that
one
thing
that
comes
to
mind
is
representation
in
sometimes
I
avoid
those
kind
of
things,
because
I
don't
like
to
brag
about
myself.
But
representation
is
very
important
to
me
and
I
try
to
set
that
example
with
my
with
my
own
kids,
with
my
students
in
the
classroom
when
I
talk
to
them
about
the
importance
of
being
involved
about
the
importance
of
representing
who
you
are.
H
Your
specific
needs
needs
where
you
come
from
so
I
guess
in
the
classroom
and
also
within
the
community
when
I'm
out
there
talking
to
families
talking
to
kids
at
games
or
at
the
doors
I
I
guess
this
would
be
examples
of
how
I
have
you
know
in
those
in
that
literature
moment
where
I
can
lead
by
example,
is
with
my
own
with
what
I
do
I
believe
is
how
I
lead
the
way
that
I
lead.
You
know
in
an
honest
way,
with
Integrity
with
assertiveness.
A
H
H
F
H
A
great
question,
I
think
the
first
thing
I
would
do
is
I
would
like
to
know
exactly
why
the
person
thinks
it's
not
a
good
idea
to
really
gather
more
information
and
what?
What
are
the
reasons
behind
that
thought
and
then
I
would
try
to
share
with
that
person.
The
many
different
reasons
why
I
believe
it's
positive
thing
for
the
city
of
Bloomington.
You
know
when
it
comes
to
Opportunities
like
I.
H
That's
one
of
the
things
I
didn't
get
to
talk
about
last
time
when
I
was
here,
but
the
opportunities
that
it
gives
to
families
and
kids
to
either
volunteer
or
work
at
the
World
Expo
right
to
interact
with
people
that
are
coming
from
other
countries.
Other
cultures,
the
type
of
opportunity
that
we
give
to
the
city
for
economic
development.
H
H
H
H
A
Being
with
us
and
your
continued
interest
in
serving
on
the
city
council,
the
the
next
steps
we
you're
you're
405
tonight.
So
we
have
one
more
person
that
we're
going
to
talk
to
tonight.
We're
not
gonna,
have
a
discussion
or
make
a
decision
tonight,
that's
going
to
happen
at
our
January
23rd
meeting
and
then
the
idea
to
have
our
new
council
member
sworn
in
by
early
February
at
the
absolute
latest,
because
we
want
a
Full
Slate
of
council
members
representing
Bloomington.
Okay,.
H
A
Council
members
welcome
thanks
for
being
here
tonight.
Thank
you.
You
are
you're,
not
betting,
clean
up
your
batting
fifth
but
I
learned
long
ago
in
baseball
the
the
number
five
guys,
probably
the
most
important,
even
more
more
important,
I
think
than
the
cleanup
battery
so
you're
betting.
Fifth.
So
that's
good
thanks
for
being
with
us
tonight.
Thanks
for
your
continued
interest
in
this
Council
position,
greatly
appreciated.
A
We
are
looking
forward
to
spending
the
next
30
minutes
with
you.
We've
got
the
clock
once
again
tonight
and
we'll
be
asking
questions
trying
to
just
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
you
and
to
try
and
add
to
our
our
Trove
of
knowledge.
So
we
can
make
a
good
decision
once
we
decide
eventually
who
to
appoint
to
this
Council
position,
unlike
the
first
time
where
you
had
the
questions
ahead
of
time.
This
is
a
little
bit
more
like
an
official
job
interview
where
you
won't
have
those
questions
ahead
of
time.
A
So
expect
those
questions
and
expect
some
back
and
forth.
Also,
and
maybe
some
conversations
we
look
for
again
just
trying
to
find
more
information
and
to
get
to
know
you
as
well
as
we
possibly
can
so
that
is
it
for
the
introduction
and
the
clock
will
start
as
I
get
going
on
the
the
first
question
here
tonight
and
if
you
could,
what
elements
of
the
city's
strategic
plan
resonate
most
with
you
and
why
sure.
A
J
Yeah
the
great
question:
thank
you,
council
member
I.
It's
funny
I
wish
I
had
there's
an
infographic
of
the
difference
between
equality
and
Equity,
where
there's
a
tree
and
two
different
sized
ladders
and
I.
Think
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
that
graphic,
it
resonates
a
lot
with
me
right.
The
idea
that
quality
is
something
where
you're
giving
everybody
the
same
chance,
but
Equity
is
where
everyone
has
the
same
opportunities
that
are
curated
to
their
ability
to
achieve
that
opportunity
or
to
reach
out
to
it.
J
J
Inclusion
is
is
similar
in
that
it
is
not
enough
to
I'll
stick
with
that
same
example
of
of
Outreach
for
medical
care
right,
getting
people
a
colorectal
cancer
screening
when
they
turn
45.,
it's
not
enough
to
send
the
same
thousand
people
in
email
right.
Some
people
don't
have
access
to
email.
Some
people
don't
have
access
to
the
electronic
medium
through
your
electronic
health
court
record
and
so
to
me.
Equity
and
inclusion
is
about
meeting
people
where
they're
at
and
showing
them
what
the
possibilities
look
like
and
allowing
them
to
opt
into.
J
It.
I
think
one
thing
that
the
council
can
do
to
help
generate
better
equity
and
inclusion
within
the
city
is
similarly
to
make
sure
that
we
have
multiple
modalities
of
communication.
I
know
we
have
the
paper
that
goes
out
through
the
city
of
Bloomington.
I
know
that
there's
the
email
blasts
I'm
not
sure
that
our
residents
fully
understand
how
to
opt
into
those
things,
and
so
I
think
avenues
like
me.
J
D
In
a
normal
year,
it
would
take
a
lot
of
time
to
get
up
to
speed
as
a
new
council
member
and
require
a
significant
amount
of
time
to
understand
the
breadth
of
the
role
this
year
is
an
election
year.
Do
you
have
the
capacity
to
commit
to
both
share
with
us,
how
you
plan
to
accomplish
both
and
why
you
are
best
suited
for
this
endeavor
sure.
D
J
J
E
J
You
know
if,
if
I
think
to
the
meeting
that
you
guys
had
on
Monday,
where
you
were
discussing
the
roadway
on
Bloomington
Ferry,
Bridge
I
thought
the
way
you
went
about
that
kind
of
giving
and
taking
discussions
about
the
three
potential
routes
was
was
well
done.
I
think
there
was
some
other
data
points.
I
would
have
pulled
into
that.
In
addition
to
offset
CO2
Community
conversations,
I
thought
the
commentary
about
the
the
trees
was
incredibly
important,
but
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
about
that
is.
J
F
I'll
take
the
hit
on
that
one,
oh
asking
for
all
that
data.
So,
as
you
know,
Public
Safety
is
on
the
minds
of
many
Bloomington
residents
and
business
owners
here.
How
would
you
use
the
data
that
we
have,
especially
that
which
is
publicly
available
to
identify
areas
of
opportunity
for
Council
action
to
improve
those
conditions.
J
Yeah
I
mean
there's,
there's
fairly,
of
course,
I'm
very
conscientious
about
keeping
data
as
private
as
it
as
it
can
possibly
be.
That's
a
big
thing
in
healthcare,
and
so
I
I
think
that
there's
opportunities
to
combine
commercially
available
data
sets
with
what
we
have
from
our
our
crime
dispatch,
Etc
and
and
to
look
at
patterns,
and-
and
it's
not
it's
not
always
retrospective
right.
You
want
to
look
at
hiring
Trends.
The
age
of
your
population,
I
mean
there's.
There
would
be
a
lot
of
variables
that
I
would
want
to
statistically
test
for
before.
J
I
would
ever
recommend
using
data
to
make
a
decision
for
something
like
that.
However,
if
you're
looking
to
identify
corollaries
or
potential
positions,
I
do
think
looking
at
the
Crime
Stoppers
data,
looking
at
police
police
reports
looking
at
the
various
demographics
and
social
determinants,
social
demographics
within
an
area
can
help
lead
you
towards
where
you
can
deploy
resources
more
effectively.
So
I'll
give
an
example
from
like
a
healthcare
setting
right
you
make
decisions
about
what
kind
of
doctors
you
hire
based
on
the
patient
population
and
I
would
say.
J
The
same
thing
is
true
with
Public
Safety
right,
you
should
just
like
you
did
with
the
levy
raising
you
for
for
police
and
firemen.
You
want
to
do
that
based
on
the
data
that
you're
getting.
So,
if
there's
more
calls
in
a
certain
area,
you
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
allocating
those
resources
to
that
area
effectively.
J
You
know
leadership
is
difficult
and
I
I
would
say
a
lot
of
the
decisions
you
make,
whether
it's
who
to
put
into
a
specific
role
or
or
where
to
take
an
organization
at
least
I'm
fortunate
to
lead
174
people,
and
we
don't
always
agree.
We
always
agree
that
the
patient
is
at
the
Forefront
of
what
we
do
and
so
finding
a
specific
decision
that
I've
made,
where
maybe
I
mean
most
of
the
decisions
that
I
make.
J
There
are
some
faction
that
agrees
with,
and
some
faction
that
disagrees
with,
which
I'm
sure
is
what
you
guys
have,
and
so
I
found
that
using
communication
and
explaining
the
reasons
that
you
make
those
decisions
can
help
align.
The
factions
right
can
help
them
understand
that,
even
though
they
might
not
agree
with
the
decision
they're
going
to
help
you
achieve
the
desired
outcome
that
the
decision
is
intended
to
do.
J
It
would
take
me
to
teach
them
the
fundamentals
about
our
organization,
so
knowing
everything
they
needed
to
know
about
Cloud,
Technologies
and
master
data
management,
I'll
try
not
to
get
too
nerdy.
Well,
maybe
maybe
a
little
bit
nerdier
yeah,
I'll
titrate,
but
I
was
able
to
explain
to
them
that
that
Charisma
and
that
the
knowledge
that
that
person
had
about
the
larger
industry
was
going
to
to
be
such
a
benefit
that
it
would
overshadow
the
fact
that
there
was
going
to
be
some
teachings
around
culture.
J
J
Was
it
your
ultimate
decision?
It
was
my
ultimate
decision,
however.
I
want
to
be
I
should
I
should
set
the
stage
for
that
I
wouldn't
I,
don't
think
that
I
would
have,
and
thankfully
I
didn't
have
to,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
I
would
have
gone
to
the
well
and
said:
listen
if
you
feel
that
strongly
about
it,
I'm
still
gonna
overrule
it.
Instead,
what
I
did
was
I
tried
to
get
to
consensus?
I
said
tell
me
about
the
reasons
that
you
think
that
a
you
know.
Another
direction
would
be
better
and
I
listened.
J
You
know
seeking
first
to
to
understand
and
then
I
was
able
to
kind
of
come
back
around
and
say
well,
this
is
the
reason
I'm
leaning
this
direction.
What
do
you
think
about
that?
I
also
recognize
you
guys,
probably
don't
have
that
time
and
that
level
of
communication,
and
so
sometimes
you
do
just
have
to
have
to
say
I'm
gonna
go
this
direction
because
ultimately
I'm
accountable
for
this
decision
and
I
feel
like
that's
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
for
for
this
desired
outcome.
J
All
data
is
subjective,
even
when
you
have
the
best
data
in
the
world.
You
know
in
healthcare,
we
generate
gigabytes
of
data
every
single
day
and
yet
I
still
find
myself
constantly
scratching
my
head
saying:
how
do
you
you
don't
mean
we
don't
capture
that
discreetly
I
can't
measure
that
and
what
you
end
up
doing
is
soliciting
feedback
from
people
who
are
really
familiar
with
those
workflows
and
people
who
are
familiar
with
the
not
just
the
workflows,
but
also
the
construct
that
that
you're
looking
for
so
in
healthcare.
J
That
would
be
talking
to
doctors,
nurses,
the
people
who
check
in
patients
the
people
who
clean
up
the
rooms
and
saying
I'm
looking
to
to
measure
this
help
me
understand
how
to
measure
this
and
I'm
fond
of
I'm
fortunate
to
have
a
really
skilled
staff,
but
one
of
the
first
things
we
we
teach
people
is
sometimes
it's
better
to
just
get
out
a
pen
in
a
piece
of
paper
to
measure
something
than
it
is
to
mine
a
gigantic
database.
So
it's
a
a
problem.
I'm
familiar
with
and
part
of,
it
is
guts
right.
J
The
balance
between
services
and
Taxation,
it's
a
it's
a
great
question
and
I'm
in
terms
of
balance
like
I.
Don't
know
that
I
would
draw
a
ratio
right,
I,
think
what
you
need
is
an
equation
for
Value
councilman
Norman.
What
you!
What
you
want
to
be
able
to
say
is
this
is
what
you're
getting
for
your
expense
right.
So
in
data
analytics,
I
have
a
30
million
dollar
budget,
and
what
I
am
expected
to
do
every
year
is
to
be
able
to
say
all
right
Fairview.
J
This
is
what
you're
getting
for
that
30
million
dollars
right.
It's
it's!
These
sets
of
of
patients,
patient
information.
It's
these
regulatory
reports,
Etc
and
I.
Think
that
Bloomington
does
a
nice
job
of
that
right,
I.
When
I'm
reading,
through
the
paper
and
I'm
learning
that
they'll
pick
up
my
my
Christmas
tree
for
six
dollars
as
opposed
to
60.
J
I,
think
that's
that's
a
value
equation
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
able
to
to
sell
that
in
terms
of
like
what
that
right
ratio
is
I,
think
reasonable
people
can
disagree
on
how
much
taxation
is
appropriate
and
ultimately
it's
the
responsibility
of
the
council
to
determine
what
services
are
essential
and
then
fund
them
and
I.
Think
so
far.
J
You
guys
have
done
a
really
nice
job
that,
in
your
predecessors
and
I,
feel
like
an
additional
nine
percent
on
the
levy
to
fund
police
and
fire,
and
some
of
those
other
very
critical
Services
is
very
reasonable.
So
I
think
that
that
balance
is
well
struck.
I
think
people
can
disagree
with
that
and
it's
important
for
us
to
hear
them
understand
that
and
be
able
to
craft
that
value
statement
back
to
them.
J
E
J
I
also
think
that
what
Warren
Buffett
has
done
in
the
financial
sector
is
quite
quite
impressive,
but
even
going
back
to
those
quips,
you
know
one
of
the
things
I
think
about
and
as
I've
climbed
the
ranks
at
Healthcare
is
you
know.
Sometimes
you
get
these
questions
coming
to
you
and
you're
thinking
to
yourself
like
how
do
I
respond
to
this?
How
am
I
going
to
meet
that
demand
and
there's
a
Warren
Buffett
quote:
I,
won't
repeat
it,
but
it's!
J
You
can
always
tell
that
person
to
go
somewhere
else
tomorrow,
essentially
and
I
think
about
that
a
lot
right
because
he
practiced
this.
This
kind
of
patience
and
this
due
diligence
that
I
think
is
really
important
for
leaders
to
be
able
to
take
that
breath
to
take
that
moment
and
make
sure
you
you
stay
composed.
J
I
I,
also
I'm
fortunate
to
work
for
a
woman
who
has
a
a
PhD
in
Health
informatics,
she's,
a
colorectal
surgeon
by
trade
she's.
She
is
a
remarkable
human
being,
and
so
I
won't
name
her
because
she
wouldn't
want
well,
she
probably
wouldn't
mind
but
I.
Think
of
her
as
a
an
incredible
leader
in
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
She
is
a
she
is
a
person
of
color
who
is
his
been
incredibly
successful
in
a
male-dominated
profession
as
a
surgeon
trained
at
world-class
institutions,
and
so
I.
F
J
I
think
one
of
the
things
I
would
do
to
try
to
to
reconcile
that
is
I.
Would
excuse
me
for
just
a
second
one
of
the
things
that
I
would
do
to
try
to
reconcile.
That
is
make
sure
that
I
was
as
communicative
and
transparent
during
the
council
meetings
as
possible
right
and
trying
to
preempt
many
of
those
questions
so
that
time,
commitment,
I
think
would
be,
would
be
a
big
one
and
not
the
time
commitment
of
the
council
itself
but
of
being
responsive
to
the
citizens.
J
A
Just
to
let
you
know
we're
about
11
and
a
half
minutes
right
now,
so
you're
you're
tracking,
well
we'll
probably
head
down
the
the
Davis
one
more
time
here
and
just
keep
the
discussion
going.
If
we
could
So
Adam
describe
a
time
when,
when
you
felt
defeated
when
a
project
you
were
working
on,
fell
apart
or
you
missed
a
deadline
or
you
got
chewed
out
or
something.
How
did
you
deal
with
that
adversity?
And
and
what
did
you
do
with
that
lesson
that
you
learned.
J
J
Those
are
some
great
candidates
in
terms
of
like
a
time
that
I
felt,
you
know,
defeated
I
think
any
time
you're
you're
trying
to
make
a
difference,
and
especially
as
a
leader
when
you
lean
into
that
decision
and
you
you're
the
one
who
says
we're
going
to
go
this
way
and
it
doesn't
pan
out
the
way
you
expect.
That
can
be
an
incredibly
defeating,
so
I
know.
You'll
want
a
specific
example.
Give
me
just
a
minute
and
I'll
come
up
with
one.
J
Actually,
I'll
take
a
I'll
take
one
from
my
my
personal
life
when
my
wife
and
I
a
couple
of
years
ago,
when
we
moved
into
Bloomington.
That
was
a
really
tough
time
to
buy
a
house,
and
we
lived
right
in
the
south
side
of
of
Richfield
right
right
by
Best
Buy
and
we
sold
our
house
because
we
kind
of
got
a
a
an
offer
that
we
couldn't
refuse.
J
It
wasn't
necessarily
something
that
we
had
expected
to
do
and
we
had
planned
to
kind
of
ride
out
the
winter
in
a
condo
and
then
move
into
a
new
house,
hopefully
somewhere
in
Bloomington
Edina
somewhere
in
the
South
Metro
and
then
covet
hit,
and
we
continued
to
search
for
houses.
And
it
was
incredibly
demoralizing
bidding
on
house
after
house
and
when
we
finally
settled
on
everything
we
needed
about
a
house
and
and
what
the
appropriate
budget
would
be
and
where
we
wanted
to
be.
J
It
just
seemed
like
nothing
was
coming
up
in
Bloomington,
where
we
wanted
it
that
we
couldn't
get
those
things
and
I
had
kids
that
were
in
school
and
distance
learning
was
transitioning
out
and
we
were
finally
able
to
get
our
kids
back
into
school
and
it
was
incredibly
demotivating
for
a
long
time
and
it's
funny
because
eventually
we
kind
of
threw
our
hands
up.
We
had
bid
on
I
think
it
was
our
10th
house
and
not
gotten
it
it's
just.
J
It
was
an
incredible
time
for
the
real
estate
market
and
what
we
ended
up
doing
was
basically
saying
you
know
what
we're
going
to
really
refine
our
search
and
not
look
for
things
and
what
happened?
Was
the
perfect
house
popped
up
like
two
weeks
later
and
it
we
waited
and
waited
because
we
were
still
pretty
disenfranchised
with
the
entire
house
buying
process
and
eventually
on,
like
the
sixth
day
was
in
the
market.
J
We
said,
is
this
house
really
still
on
the
market
and
it
was
and
we
went
in
and
we
I
think
we
made
an
offer
that
night
and
it
I
could
not
be
more
pleased
with
the
community
that
I
found
myself
in
and
we
knew
we
wanted
to
be
in
Bloomington.
We
knew
we
wanted
to
be
in
that
that
a
particular
prayer,
but
the
community
that
I
live
in
I'm
sure
some
of
them
are
probably
watching
right
now,
they're
so
incredibly,
supportive
and
thoughtful
that
it
could
not
have
worked
out
better
for
me
and
my
family.
J
The
the
full
budget
of
the
city
of
Bloomington,
so
I
have
accountability
for
a
fairly
sizable
budget
at
mhealth,
Fairview
I'm,
the
representative,
that
controls
the
I.T
budget
and
what
you
find
when
you
have
control
over
a
eight
figure
budget
I
think
that's
right
is
all
sorts
of
things
are
in
and
out
of
the
fringes
of
a
budget
and
I'm
very
curious
to
learn
how
the
city
handles
those
finances.
Specifically
right
in
terms
of
you
can
see
the
balance
sheet.
J
You
can
see
the
income
statement,
but
what
I'm
really
interested
in
learning
is
like
the
grants
that
are
coming
in
from
us
additional
areas
right
and
the
way
we
spend
those
funds.
I.
Think
immersing
myself
in
that
I'm
a
little
bit
of
a
finance
nerd
is
going
to
be
incredibly
rewarding
and
I
also
think
it
helps
craft
that
value
proposition
that
I
made
earlier
right.
So
you
can
explain
we're
making
these
decisions.
For
these
reasons,.
G
E
D
J
J
What
questions
have
you
guys
asked
me?
Well,
you
know
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
why
I
I'm
interested
in
the
position,
but
I
think
one
question
that
hasn't
just
explicitly
been
asked
is
like
what
would
make
me
the
best
candidate
for
this
role
and
so
to
answer
that
question.
I
would
say
again
having
watched
all
of
the
other
candidates
on
Saturday
I
probably
have
the
freshest
perspective,
having
not
been
immersed
in
so
many
of
the
other
activities.
J
Now
that
I'll
be
incredibly
candid,
that
can
work
in
both
directions
and
you
guys
will
have
to,
of
course,
ultimately
decide
whether
or
not
that
difference
is
a
positive
or
A
negative.
But
that's
what
I
think
that
I
can
bring
is,
is
kind
of
a
fresh
perspective
and
really
understanding
the
agenda
of
the
council
and
trying
to
help
help
contribute
to
that.
E
So
it's
kind
of
coming
from
a
place
of
personal
experience,
so
say,
for
example,
there's
a
major
project
happening
in
a
park.
We've
launched
the
park
master
plan,
there'll
be
a
lot
of
neighborhood
level
meetings
and
you
you
drive
up
and
you
see
dozens
and
dozens
of
neighbors
that
are
there.
Some
are
excited.
Some
are
nervous.
Some
are
just
waiting
for
you
to
walk
up,
so
they
can
come
and
tell
you
what
they
think.
E
J
You've
got
to
ground
yourself
in
the
fact
that
not
every
decision
we
make
is
going
to
be
perfect
and
there's
concessions,
but
to
be
able
to
explain
why
we're
making
the
decisions
that
we're
making
I
think
is
how
you
approach
the
people
who
are
both
excited
and
concerned
about
a
potential
project
right
and
both
of
those
reactions
are
totally
reasonable
and
I.
Think
it's
incumbent
on
the
person
who
who
takes
this
role
to
be
able
to
explain
that.
F
A
J
I
would
say:
that's
probably
my
biggest
philosophy
is
that
I
have
to
lead
by
example,
because
I
don't
ever
want
to
ask
somebody
to
do
something
that
I
myself
wouldn't
do,
and
so
I
I
can,
whether
it's
Fairview
recently
experienced
a
nursing
strike
and
Bob,
thankfully
that's
resolved
and
behind
us.
But
you
know,
one
of
the
things
I
said
is
Nurses.
Do
everything
in
a
hospital
of
course
doctors
do
a
lot
too,
but
everything,
and
so
when
that
strike
was
announced.
J
F
J
J
A
I
will
talk
very
slowly
in
the
wrap-up,
how
about
that
and
we'll
get
to
we'll
get
to
zeros
in
the
scoreboard
here.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
your
time
this
evening.
Thank
you
for
your
continued
interest
in
this
position
and
and
spending
your
time
with
us
and
letting
us
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
you.
It's
greatly
appreciated
next
steps.
You
were
505
as
I
said,
so
we're
done
with
the
second
round
of
interviews,
we're
not
going
to
have
a
discussion
tonight.
We're
not
voting
tonight.
B
A
The
idea
is
that
we're
going
to
have
a
council
member
two
seats
down
in
by
by
the
first
week
of
February
that
we
are
going
to
have
full
we're
going
to
fill
this
spot
just
as
quickly
as
possible,
because
we
think
it's
important
to
make
sure
that
there
are
seven
council
members
representing
the
city
of
Bloomington.
So
those
are
next
steps
and
once
again,
thanks
much
for
being
here.
This.
J
Year,
yeah
and
I'll,
just
I,
just
want
to
close
with
I,
was
flattered
that
you
guys
read
my
name
and
I
really
really
appreciate
it
and
I
think
that,
given
the
opportunity,
I
do
have
a
lot
to
contribute,
but
I
also
know
I
watch
the
other
interviews
and
those
folks
have
a
lot
to
contribute
as
well
and
I.
I
hope
that
you
guys
find
an
easy
decision
and
make
the
find
a
candidate
that
that
can
really
help
Advance
your
vision.
Great
thank.
J
A
A
I
know
that
councilmember
Nelson
is
watching
as
well.
I
would
encourage
everybody.
Go
back
through
your
notes.
Go
back,
watch
the
two
rounds
of
interviews
review
what
you
need
to
review
and
come
prepared
on
the
23rd
to
make
what
is
going
to
be,
as
I
said,
a
very
difficult
decision.
I
do
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
for
spending
the
time
last
week
on
Wednesday
night
and
Saturday
morning
and
then
again
tonight
and
I
want
to
thank
you
also
I,
think
it
says
a
lot.
A
A
This
was
a
conversation
back
and
forth
with
we
were
trying
to
find
the
best
person
and
I
think
you
get
a
lot
better
look
at
people
and
a
lot
better
understanding
of
who
they
are
in
that
type
of
atmosphere
rather
than
an
atmosphere
that
might
be
different
than
that.
So
thank
you
for
that
as
well.
Councilmember
Carter.
C
So
when
we
can,
you
just
explain
kind
of
what
that
looks
like
like.
Are
we
going
to
have
the
opportunity
to
make
comments
about
why
we're
choosing
the
person
that
we're
choosing
are
we
going
to
choose
like
a
top
two
and
then
try
to
whittle
it
down?
You
know
I'm,
just
curious
kind
of.
If
you
know
at
this
point
what
it
will
look
like
and
then
again
specifically,
you
know,
will
we
each
be
able
to
make
some
comments
about
why
we
are
voting
the
way
that
we're
voting.
A
Typically
in
the
past,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Typically,
in
the
past,
we
have
not
done
it
in
that
way,
like
our
boards
and
commissions
and
and
when
we
fill
any
vacancies
like
that,
we
generally
don't
have
a
discussion
about
the
candidates,
their
merits,
their
pluses,
their
minuses.
That
kind
of
thing
we
simply
do
a
vote.
A
Well,
we
only
get
three
cracks
at
this
as
a
council
and
if
we
can't
come
to
a
consensus,
a
decision
after
three
then
I
have
to
make
the
decision
and
let's
not
get
to
that.
If
we
can
at
all
avoid
that,
if
we
can
so
does
that
answer
your
question
and
does
that
make
sense,
I
want
to
make
sure
the
council
is
comfortable
with
that
idea.
Councilmember
Dallas.
F
F
A
Okay,
great
thank
you
foreign
and
then
the
other
two
people
had
no
votes
yep.
Then
perhaps
we
eliminate
those
two
and
we
try
another
vote
and
if
we
don't
get
there,
then
we
eliminate
you
know
again
until
we
get
to
a
point
where
we
can.
You
know
again,
we
only
get
three
cracks
at
it,
so
we
get
to
a
point
where,
hopefully
we
can
get
to
a
majority
and
if
not,
we
we
take
the
next
step.
Okay,.
A
It
makes
sense
everybody
comfortable
with
that.
Well
good
again,
thank
you
very
much
for
your
time
for
doing
this.
The
the
notion
that
I
I
really
felt
strongly
that
we
had
to
talk
to
everybody
and
see
everybody
and
I'm
glad
we
did
I
think
we
saw
outstanding
candidates,
all
18
were
outstanding
candidates
and,
as
always
well
I'll
make
the
statement
that,
for
the
folks
who
were
not
selected,
we've
got
to
find
a
way
to
get
them
involved.
A
We've
got
to
tap
into
that
because
that's
an
incredible
resource
that
we
have
in
our
city
and
it's
an
incredible
resource
and
it's
growing
I
think
councilmember,
Lowman
and
I
recall
times
when
we
actually
had
to
call
around
and
encourage
people
to
apply
for
seats
on
a
board
or
a
commission
or
a
council
vacancy.
So
this
is
a
a
very
good
problem
to
have
councilmember.
D
A
A
Shameless
plug
for
that
a
final
thank
you
to
Matt
for
his
work.
Pulling
this
all
together,
I
think
Christina,
thanks
Christine
as
well
I
think
she
took
off
and
by
now,
but
thanks
for
pulling
this
all
together.
This
has
been
as
smooth
as
it
could
have
been,
I,
believe
and
and
very
well
done,
and
very
well
structured,
Council,
no
further
business
I
would
look
for
a
motion
to
adjourn.