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April 27, 2023 Bloomington Minnesota Planning Commission Meeting
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0:03:47 ITEM 1 PL2023-34
(public hearing) City of Bloomington
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(study item) Neighborhood Traffic Management Plan
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(study item) Planning Commission Policy and Issues Update
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A
A
A
2023
meeting
of
the
Bloomington
Planning
Commission,
the
Planning
Commission,
is
made
up
of
seven
volunteer
blooming
residents
appointed
by
the
city
council.
Tonight
we
have
five,
which
is
a
quorum.
The
commission
advises
the
city
council
on
development
proposals,
development
standards,
long-range
planning
and
transportation
issues.
Our
work
is
informed
by
the
city's
comprehensive
plan,
various
District
plans
and
the
city
code
for
some
items.
The
commission
makes
a
recommendation
with
the
city
council
having
final
decision-making
Authority.
A
In
other
cases,
the
Planning
Commission
can
approve
or
deny
an
application
subject
to
appeal
to
the
city
council
for
each
action
item.
There
will
be
a
staff
report,
an
opportunity
for
the
applicant
to
present
then
time
for
any
member
of
the
public
to
provide
testimony.
Our
first
order
of
business
tonight
is
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
Please
stand
as
you
are
able
I
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and
to
the
Republic
for
which
it
stands.
One
nation
under
God
indivisible
with
liberty
and
justice
for
all.
B
Chair
Roman
Commissioners,
we
have
one
public
hearing
tonight,
item
one
and
just
as
the
public
can
testify
here
in
the
chambers,
if
you're
watching
from
home,
you
can
testify
remotely
as
well.
What
you
would
do
is
call
the
number
on
the
screen
and
then
enter
in
the
access
code,
and
we
will
have
this
number
flashing
on
the
screen
periodically
during
that
item.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
E
C
C
Summary
of
The
Proposal
this.
This
is
a
CPA
or
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
to
incorporate
revisions
noted
in
that
system
statement
and
also
noted
on
this
slide-
is
that
the
bulk
of
the
revisions
are
focused
on
section
four:
that's
the
transportation
element
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
there
is
a
figure
in
section:
seven:
the
community
facilities
section
that
was
also
revised
to
respond
to
the
2022
system
statement.
C
A
little
bit
of
background.
The
Metropolitan
Council
provides
a
definition
of
a
system
plan.
It's
a
long-range,
comprehensive.
It
I
mean
it's
a
it's
a
suite
of
long-range,
comprehensive
plans
for
the
regional
system.
You
see
all
the
plants
that
are
encompassed.
It
includes
Capital
budgets
for
Wastewater,
Services,
Transportation,
recreational
open
space.
C
The
system
statement
is
is
a
a
document
that
basically
describes
updates
to
those
system
plans
it's
specific
to
each
Community
within
the
metropolitan
area.
It
summarizes
those
changes.
It's
prepared
by
the
med
Council
to
help
metro
area
communities,
understand,
updates
to
system
plans,
and
it
helps.
E
C
Also
worth
noting
that
the
CPA
or
concert
I'll
just
say
CPA,
the
CPA
is
distinct
from
the
decennial
comp
planning
process,
you'll
notice,
that
staff
did
not
do
a
wholesale
revision
of
the
entire
comp
plan
and
even
in
those
sections
you
know
the
those
bigger
chunks
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
We
stuck
strictly
to
what
was
noted
in
the
system
statement.
We
did
not
Veer
off.
So
if
you
know
it's
it's
worth
noting
that
some
things
are
it
hasn't.
It's
been
enforced.
C
When
we
redo,
you
know,
do
this
whole
decennial
comp
planning
process,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
a
point.
This
is
a
timeline
summarizing
how
we
got
to
this.
This
point
in
time.
In
2015,
the
med
Council
adopted
the
2040
Transportation
quality
policy
plan
in
the
regional
parks
policy
plan
in
2020,
the
my
Council
updated
those
two
system
plans
in
222.
As
was
noted,
Bloomington
received
its
a
system
statement
from
that
Council
which
obligated
it
to
incorporate
revisions
to
reflect
reflect
the
system.
C
Statements
within
nine
months,
which
would
put
us
at
the
end
of
June
in
2023,
which
you
can
see
on
the
timeline
this
table
is
is,
is
just
basically
a
carbon
copy
of
what
was
in
the
staff
report,
summarizing
all
the
revisions
that
staff
made
to
bring
in
compliance
with
this,
bringing
our
comp
plan
within
compliance.
Compliance
with
the
system
statement,
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
everything,
but
it's
there
for
your
reference.
C
If
you'd
like
to
go
into
more
deep
if
you'd
like,
if
you
request
that
we
go
into
more
detail,
I'm
having
to
do
that,
but
I'm
just
providing
you
here
just
to
to
show
you
and
the
public
how
much
of
a
chain
how
many
changes
were
are
proposed
by
staff
summary
of
updates.
Looking
at
section
four,
a
bigger
theme
was
changing
the
project:
the
status
of
projects
that
the
Met
Council
highlighted
within
their
transportation
policy
plan,
the
latest
iteration.
C
So
a
lot
of
things
went
from
planned
or
under
construction,
as
noted
in
bloomington's
comprehensive
plan
to
complete,
and
then
the
language
within
those
sections
describing
those
projects
was
was
changed
to
reflect
the
complete
status.
So,
though,
there
are
very
minor
link
language
differences
just
to
basically
reflect
the
current
status
of
the
projects.
C
Some
of
the
a
list
of
those
are
included
on
this
slide,
the
you
know
an
energy
The
Interchange
at
I-494,
East,
Bush,
Lake,
Road
and
new
right
turn
lane
at
Highway
77
and
Old
Shakopee
Road
River,
Bridge,
Minnesota,
River
Bridge
replacement,
the
orange
line
and
the
d-line
which
came
in
operation
after
the
adoption
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
the
comprehensive
plan
is
now
reflecting
that
those
trans
assistant
or
those
Transit
ways
are
in
operation.
C
C
There
were
two
ways
to
describe
the
the
status,
the
funding
status
of
Transit
ways
that
was
within
an
increased
Revenue
scenario
where
projects
for
which
there
was
no
identified
funding.
But
if
there
were
you
know
these
are
the
transit
ways
that
would
be
considered
for
that
that
increase
in
funding
and
then
there's
the
current
Revenue
scenario
where
there
are
projects
identified,
they
are
planned
and
they
have
funding
sources.
C
What
was
updated
was
the
Johnson
Lindale
arterial
brt
was
added
to
the
increased
Revenue
scenario
in
a
new
transport
or
the
latest
Transportation
policy
plan,
and
also
worth
discussing
or
worth
noting,
is
American.
Boulevard
was
reclassified.
It
was
for
it's
still
within
the
increased
Revenue
scenario,
but
it
was
previously
identified
as
consideration
for
an
arterial
brt,
but
now
it's
a
corridor,
understudy
and
I
believe
that
study
will
kick
off
later
this
year
so
later
2023.
C
So
those
are
some
other
changes
to
the
funding
scenarios
for
for
Transit
ways.
Another
thing
to
note
not
a
not
a
huge
revision,
but
just
bringing
the
functional
classic
classification
of
roadways
within
the
city
up
to
date.
So
there's
a
there
is
a
a
script
between
normally
Boulevard
and
Norman
Lake
Road.
That's
now
I
identified
as
a
minor
reliever.
This
update
was
applied
to
several
Maps
so
but.
C
It
looks
like
this:
it's
just
that
little
tiny
strip
of
the
road
and
also
I
suppose
there
was
a
that's
worth
noting
that
there's
another
map
that
reflects
the
current
amount
of
lanes
within
its
right-of-way,
the
updates
to
section
seven
are
focused
on
one
specific
figure
and
that's
figure
7.3.
This
is
the
recreational
trail
Network
within
the
within
the
city.
I
have
clouded
off
to
the
left.
C
The
CP
Rail
Trail
and
another
Regional
Trail
search
Corridor
was
added
by
the
Met
Council,
and
so
this
map
was
updated
to
reflect
that
as
well
as
another
portion
of
a
region.
Regional
Trail,
search,
Corridor
extending
to
the
west
to
I
believe
toured
Scott
Park
in
the
South,
the
southwest
corner
of
of
the
city.
So
there
are
some
edits
made
to
this
map
to
reflect
the
the
the
current
Trail
Network
and
plans
for
other
corridors
in
that
part
of
the
city.
C
There's
the
city
staff
sent
out
Common
forms
to
adjacent
jurisdictions
on
March
23rd,
those
included
a
mix
of
city,
school
districts,
Regional
and
state
agencies
and
Watershed
districts.
Thus
far,
the
city
has
only
received
seven
responses.
They
have
60
days
in
order
to
comment
on
the
on
the
proposed
comprehensive
plan.
C
Amendment,
we
did
receive
one
form
from
Eden
Prairie
School
District,
this
past
Monday,
so
that's
not
in
the
packet
for
tonight,
but
just
wanted
to
bring
you
up
to
speed
on
that
latest
comment
form
we
received
and
so
far
we
haven't
received
any
public
comments,
but
they
those
the
the
CPA,
has
been
advertised.
So
it's
available
for
Comic
by
the
public.
A
G
Good
evening
my
name
is
Brian
savig.
This
is
a
pretty
in-depth
plan.
There
seem
to
be
at
least
100
Pages
or
more
of
information
surprised
to
see
I'm
the
only
one
here
but
I
guess.
I
only
have
one
comment
on
what
I
saw
and
that
would
be
a
concern
over
the
bike.
Trails
and
I
saw
a
lot
of
by
the
way.
I
saw
a
lot
of
very
useful
information
in
the
report.
G
Looking
looking
at
every
movement
that
went
by
certain
locations,
I
am
sort
of
concerned
that,
if
we
build
it,
they
will
come
is
maybe
a
thought
process.
I'm
also
concerned
on
funding
it.
You
know,
if
you
know,
I,
don't
know
what
percentage
of
the
citizens
utilize
bikes
to
a
large
extent,
I
mean
other
than
writing.
You
know
half
a
mile
or
something
like
that,
but
I'm
just
wondering
what
percentage
of
the
city
would
use
this
and
is
there
any
thought
towards
increasing
costs
of
bicycle
licenses
or
if
they
even
exist,
or
how?
G
How
will
the
the
bike
population,
if
we're
going
to
allocate
any
significant
amount
of
funds
towards
this?
How
will
they,
let's
say
disproportionately
support
this,
since
it's
primarily
for
them
I've
seen
well
I've
encountered
a
lot
of
inconvenience
Again
part
of
it
is
probably
just
adjusting
to
what's
happened
on
the
roadways,
but
so
oftentimes
you're
on
a
two
lanes.
Each
way
street
and
I
realize
that's
outside
of
this
discussion,
but
it
has
a
bearing
on
it
and,
and
that
is
you're
on
a
two-way
two
lanes.
Each
way.
G
G
We
advertise
the
trail
that
was
put
in
from
Lindale
Avenue
going
east
as
a
bloomington's
newest
nature,
trail
and
I
used
to
go
down
there
a
lot.
There
were
beaver,
other
animal
of
fox
populations,
they're
all
gone
I
mean
the.
If
the
construction
process
didn't
destroy
it,
the
usage
did
now.
The
usage
is
probably
a
good
thing.
Citizens
are
using
that
area.
A
lot
more,
but
you
know
I
I
would
say
it's
bloomington's,
newest
freeway,
not
bloomington's,
newest
Nature,
Center,
walk
trail
whatever,
just
because
at
least
particularly
by
Lindale
Avenue.
G
G
A
A
A
So,
while
you
were
the
the
revisions
we
see
today
are
very
focused,
the
plan
itself
is
is
in
some
ways
it's
it's
directive,
but
in
many
ways
also
it's
it's
a
Visionary,
so
the
planning
manager
can
correct
me
if
I'm
mistaken,
but
I
don't
know
that
the
you
know
the
plan
sets
out
Visions
for
types
of
streets,
types
of
bike
corridors
potentially,
but
those
are
if
they
were
to
be
built
where
they
would
be
built.
I,
don't
think
it.
It's
not
prescriptive
that
those
will
be
built
in
a
certain
period
of
time.
A
Okay,
so
I
think
that
that
gets
to
some
of
those
questions
about
and
as
far
as
why
there
aren't
any
specific
details
again.
If
a
if
a
certain
Corridor
was
to
be
converted,
there
would
be
those
details
would
be
studied.
It
would
be
brought
to
the
Planning
Commission
during
an
annual
Transportation
plan
or
a
thing
like
that,
where
it
would
be
up
for
conversation.
So
those
are
the
my
observations
on
some
of
the
general
things.
I
would
say
personally,
for
me,
I
think
nothing
in
here
is
is
a
big
deal.
A
I
think
I
appreciate
that
the
council
is
updating
these
types
of
information
on
a
regular
basis.
I
think
that
I
would
encourage
somehow
for
the
city
and
if
that's
me,
as
a
Planning,
Commission
member
or
some
sort
of
a
communication
back
to
the
Met,
Council
I,
think
there's
a
better
way
to
incorporate
this
information
than
using
a
significant
amount
of
staff
time
to
amend
a
comprehensive
plan
notice
it
all
these
things.
I
have
to
go
to
these
jurisdictions.
The
other
jurisdictions
have
to
weigh
in.
A
This
information
receive
this
information,
which
is
good
information
but,
as
was
pointed
out
by
planner
ramley
Olsen
accurately,
there
are
things
in
the
comp
plan
that
are
have
changed
and
that's
that's
the
case.
When
you
design
a
plan
once
every
10
years
it
does
some
of
it
happen.
Some
of
it
doesn't.
So
that's
my
only
observation.
It's
not
about
the
content.
It's
not
about
the
good
work.
Our
staff
has
done.
I
just
think
it.
A
D
Mr
chair
thanks
and
if
you're
going
to
write
a
letter,
I'm
happy
to
sign
it,
it's
funny
how
sometimes
you're,
on
the
exact
same
page
of
somebody
else.
This
just
feel
like
a
gross
overreaction
to
we
have
six
people
here
in
the
council
chambers
that
are
staff
members,
Mr,
ramler,
Olson's
online
I.
Imagine
our
attorney
is
online.
We've
got
eight
staff
members
to
draw
a
couple
of
shaded
lines
in
our
our
comp
plan:
that's
not
to
devalue
the
content
or
to
devalue
the
work
we're
doing
or
to
devalue
the
what
it
is.
D
D
A
And
again,
I
wanna
I,
think
I
said
this
at
the
beginning,
I
want
to
be
clear.
The
work
that
the
Met
Council
has
done
to
update
this
information
is
very
valuable
and
it's
very
useful.
It's
the
question
of
how
do
we
receive
and
incorporate
that
is
that
that
phase
of
the
process
is
the
part
where
I
had
an
observation,
so
I
want
to
be
make
sure
I'm
clear
that
it's
great
that
the
Met
Council
does
this
periodically
and
I
think
it's
useful
for
us.
D
F
A
A
This
item
will
move
to
the
May
22nd
city
council
meeting
as
a
public
hearing.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
a
study
item
on
the
city's
neighborhood
trans
traffic
management
plan,
and
we
have
our
esteemed
city
engineer.
Julie
long
here
with
Ray
hayhurst
from
Kimberly,
corn
and
I
will
turn
it
over
to
you
all.
H
G
H
I
I
So
our
agenda
for
tonight's
presentation.
We
want
to
provide
an
overview
of
the
project,
purpose,
its
goals
and
the
schedule
we'll
present
the
proposed
speed
limits
on
local
streets,
as
well
as
the
proposed
traffic
calming
request
program,
we'll
provide
a
summary
of
the
feedback
that
we've
heard
from
the
public
thus
far
as
well
as
how
we
will
incorporate
their
feedback
into
future
recommendations.
I
So
for
some
background,
the
neighborhood
traffic
Management
program
is
focused
on
local
streets
in
the
city.
It
does
not
include
County
roadways,
arterials
and
collectors,
and
so
the
purpose
of
this
program
is
to
identify
not
only
the
safety
and
traffic
challenges
on
local
streets,
but
us
to
identify
the
opportunities
to
create
strategies
that
improve
saferhood,
safe,
neighborhood
Mobility.
I
So
we
want
to
build
on
the
city's
existing
neighborhood
traffic
programs,
as
well
as
add
new
programs
that
reflect
the
city's
commitment
to
safety
and
livability
of
its
neighborhoods
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
this
program
is
only
one
part
of
the
city's
broader
Transportation
strategy.
We
realize
that,
while
local
streets
account
for
the
overwhelming
majority
of
roadway
mileage,
you
know
they
they,
the
local
streets,
are
not
necessarily
the
busiest
or
the
most
well-traveled
streets,
nor
are
they
where
newer
or
nor.
G
I
So
again,
really
the
the
purpose
of
the
program
is
to
strengthen
and
integrate
the
city's
existing
programs.
Tonight,
we'll
present
on
speed
limits
on
local
streets,
as
well
as
the
traffic
calming
request
program
again
we're
creating
a
comprehensive
approach
to
manage
traffic
speeds
and
improve
safety,
as
well
as
increasing
access
for
people
not
traveling
by
automobile.
So
that's
people
walking
biking
and
taking
Transit
and
really
advancing
the
goals
that
the
city
has
already
set
through
its
active
Transportation
plan
and
other
initiatives.
I
So
we've
identified
six
overall
program
goals.
These
goals
are
consistent
with
the
city's
comprehensive
plans
and
existing
initiatives.
Those
goals
include
safety,
Mobility,
accessibility,
equity,
efficacy
and
fiscal
sustainability,
as
well
as
being
clear
and
easy
to
understand,
I
want
to
emphasize
that
last
one.
I
Our
goal
is
to
develop
a
program
processes
that
are
easy
to
navigate
and
in
a
program
that
more
community
members
are
aware
of
and
can
take
advantage
of
and
know
their
benefits
as
I'll
touch
on
later.
In
this
presentation,
based
on
our
review
of
the
existing
traffic
home
and
request
program
that
hasn't
necessary,
hasn't
been
the
case
thus
far.
I
I
I
I
So
with
that
in
mind,
we
want
to
set
speed
limits
that
promote
safer
speeds,
but
we
recognize
that
just
changing
the
speed
limit
alone
won't
automatically.
You
know
change
driver
Behavior,
really
that
change
in
the
speed
limit
needs
to
be
accompanied
by
traffic,
homing
education
and
targeted
enforcement
strategies.
I
Other
communities
adjacent
to
Bloomington
have
lowered
their
speed
limits
on
local
streets,
and
so
when
we
consider
changes
here
in
the
city
to
local
local
Street
speed
limits,
we
want
to
maintain
some
level
of
consistency,
because
we
know
from
many
drivers
cross
through
multiple
communities
in
a
given
day
on
a
given
trip
and
so
having
a
consistent
speed,
limit
kind
of
leads
to
Greater,
voluntary
compliance
and
third,
we
want
to
set
reasonable
expectations
based
on
the
data
that
the
city
has
collected
most,
but
not,
certainly
not.
All.
I
Drivers
on
local
streets
are
traveling
below
30
miles
per
hour
on
local
streets.
So
we
know
other
communities
in
the
metro
area
have
lowered
speed
limits
on
local
streets
to
20
miles
per
hour.
That
is
something
that
we
considered
But.
Ultimately,
given
the
conditions
on
many
of
bloomington's
local
streets,
where
there's
perhaps
less
on-street
parking
wider
right
away,
different
block
lengths.
I
20
miles
per
hour
would
have
been
perhaps
a
speed
limit
that
would
be
unreasonable
to
most
drivers
and
would
not
lead
to
voluntary
compliance.
So
we
want
to
find
we
want
to
set
speed
limits
at
a
level
so
that
most
people
voluntarily
comply
with
and
then
for
you
know,
and
then
for
the
remaining
percentage
of
people
who
don't
you
know,
comply
with
that
speed
limit
using
other
strategies
such
as
traffic
coming
and
targeted
enforcement,
to
bring
more
people
into
compliance.
I
I
I
I
With
a
petition
supporting
an
application
to
the
city
staff,
in
summary,
City
staff
reviews
and
scores
the
project
data
is
collected
on
where
the
application
application
is
four
based
on
the
data
collected.
If
there's
a
demonstrated
speeding
issue,
there
would
be
Community
engagement
around
a
potential
project
staff
would
make
a
recommendation
for
a
traffic
calming
device
was
subject
to
approval
by
Planning,
Commission
and
city
council.
I
I
I
So,
based
on
our
review
of
the
existing
program,
as
well
as
a
scan
of
best
practices
for
other
Municipal
Traffic
calming
request
programs.
We've
identified
the
following
specific
goals
for
any
changes
to
the
program
first
off,
and
we
want
to
maintain
the
city's
commitment
to
improving
Quality
of
Life
by
addressing
persistent
traffic
issues.
I
Fully
built
out
traffic
calming
treatment
and
then
lastly,
you
know
we
want
to
continue
to
use
City
resources
efficiently
to
manage
the
program
and
not
create
a
burden
on
staff
resources
and
taxpayer
taxpayer
funds.
And,
lastly,
a
goal
we
identified
was
looking
for
a
alternative
funding
source.
The
current
funding
source
for
the
traffic
common
request
program
is
a
special
tax
assessment
and
we've
identified
that
as
a
potential
barrier
for
some
residents
to
participate
in
the
program.
I
So
what
that
looks
like
is
a
more
hopefully,
as
you
see
it,
a
more
streamlined
process
that
is
cyclical
in
nature.
I'll
highlight
the
key,
the
key
difference
being
the
public
request
and
the
request
screening
step
in
the
very
beginning.
So
currently,
staff
receives
applications
from
residents
on
a
one
by
one
basis
and
kind
of
has
to
make
a
determination
and
prioritize
just
based
on
seeing
one
application.
I
The
process
has
several
off-ramps,
one
of
which
is
related
to
the
public
request.
So
if
staff
receives
a
request
and
it's
a
themed,
immediate
safety
issue-
that's
an
off-ramp,
for
you
know,
City
staff
to
consider
other
interventions,
not
necessarily
traffic
calming
to
address
kind
of
immediate
safety
issues.
Traffic
signals
out
pavement
condition
is
so
bad
that
it's
causing
safety
hazards
for
all
users
stuff
like
that
another
off-ramp
is
related
to
step
two.
So
you
know
based
on
the
screening
of
applications,
if
an
application
is
does
not
score
highly
based
on
the
set
criteria.
I
Other
off-ramps
include,
you
know.
If
staff
collects
speed,
counts
and
collect
smart
data
and
determines
that
there's
no
immediate
issue,
you
know,
there's
no
speeding
or
the
issue
at
hand,
cannot
necessarily
be
addressed
by
this
program.
Then
that
application
that
request,
wouldn't
necessarily
be
Advanced
forward
and
then,
lastly,
obviously
the
approval
process.
If
staff
brings
a
project
forward
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
city
council
and
there's
perhaps
no
consensus
among
among
the
community
or
this
body
and
the
city
council
doesn't
feel
like
it's
a
good
project.
I
It
also
allows
an
opportunity
to
do
more
to
test
with
traffic
coming
trial
projects
test.
You
know
certain
traffic
homing
treatments
the
year
before
construction,
so
an
opportunity
to
get
feedback
from
the
community
on
what
a
certain
treatment
might
look
like
and
also
you
know,
based
on
that
feedback,
adapt
and
refine
or
perhaps
not
even
Advance,
a
project.
I
So
we've
divided
the
toolbox
of
traffic
calming
options
into
two
tiers.
The
first
tier
would
include
curb
extensions,
neighborhood
traffic
circles
and
then
vertical
devices,
so
that's
speed,
tables,
speed,
cushions
and
speed
humps
and
for
all
those
options
that
would
include
both
trial
and
permanent
treatments.
I
I
The
second
bucket
is
related
to
costs,
so
not
only
Capital
Construction
costs,
but
also
the
full
life
cycle
costs
so
operations
and
maintenance,
which
leads
to
the
third
third
bucket
of
you
know,
considering
the
ease
of
use
and
other
impacts
of
a
giffen
traffic
coming
option.
So
that's
related
to
maintenance,
Ada
accessibility,
any
potential
impacts
on
bicyclists
and
pedestrians,
as
well
as
environmental
impacts,
I.
Think
it's
important
to
note
with
each
of
these
traffic
coming
up
options.
I
It
really
matters
on
context,
and
you
know
each
of
them
and
themselves
are
good
tools
for
very
specific
problems.
So,
as
we
advance
in
this
with
this
program,
we
want
we'll
provide
greater
details
for
each
of
the
options
so
that
it's
not
only
crystal
clear
for
for
staff
and
City
leadership,
but
also
for
the
public
to
understand
some
of
the
benefits
and
considerations
and
when
certain
tools
are
appropriate
for
certain
situations.
I
In
addition,
we've
had
a
interactive
map
and
online
survey
posted
to
the
project
website
on
the
let's
talk,
Bloomington
platform,
and
so
what
we've
heard
so
far
are
kind
of
three
common
themes,
the
first
being
of
limited
awareness
of
the
existing
traffic
calming
program.
Many
people
have
no
idea
that
such
a
program
exists.
I
D
I
The
most
vulnerable
people
in
the
community,
our
kids
and
lastly,
we
heard
specific
safety
concerns
in
the
neighborhoods,
but
also
non-local
streets,
so
outside
the
the
purview
of
this
program.
But
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
a
lot
of
people's
safety
concerns
are
on
busier
non-local
streets.
So
we
wanna,
acknowledge
you
know
what
we've
heard
and
from
the
community.
I
So
again,
we'll
incorporate
key
themes
in
specific
feedback
into
our
recommendations
and
we'll
discuss
these
recommendations
with
the
public
and
stakeholders
based
on
kind
of
who
we
we
heard
from
thus
far
and
who
we
want
and
who
we
haven't
heard
from.
We
want
to
refine
our
public
engagement
approach
and
and
reach
a
greater
cross-segment
of
of
the
community.
So
again,
we'll
have
update
project
website,
updated
survey
and
interactive
map
with
open
houses
and
pop-up
events.
A
So
this
is
a
study
item,
so
staff
and
the
consultant
are
looking
for
thoughts
and
feedback
on
some
of
the
concepts
that
are
in
place.
I
will
say,
I
don't
know
about
others.
I
did
participate
in
the
virtual
open
house,
it
was
you
know,
I
was
well
received
and
Kirk
Roberts
is
not
here,
but
he
was
part
of
that
into
the
staff
that
ever
really
and
the
consultant
did
a
really
nice
job
with
that.
F
Thank
you,
chair
I,
just
have
a
question
based
on
the
experience
of
Minneapolis
and
St
Paul,
and
some
of
the
other
cities
that
you
listed
on
reducing
the
or
having
a
city-wide
speed
limit.
What
has
been
the
successes
and
challenges
with
that
in
those
cities
and
are
we
are
those
being
incorporated
into
what
we're
considering
yes,.
I
Another
challenge
that
they've
had
is
compliance.
Well,
they're
streets
are
generally
narrower
and
there's
more
parked
cars.
They,
the
20
mile
per
hour,
speed
limit,
is
perhaps
set
too
low
for
for
what
is
realistically
or
what
most
drivers
would
find
acceptable
and
so
that
the
issue
of
voluntary
compliance,
sorry,
it
isn't
it.
It
is
an
issue,
and
so
I
think
just
caution
that
it
20
miles
per
hour
would
probably
set
unreasonable
expectations,
especially
in
Bloomington.
Where
you
know,
a
lot
of
the
streets
were
built
later.
F
F
D
I
D
I
D
Thank
you.
If
I'm,
if
I
may
again,
I'm
an
analytical
engineer
myself
and
I'm
curious,
do
you
have
any
analytics
on
Crash
data
pedestrian
safety
Etc?
Is
there
any
analytics
to
maybe
there
just
hasn't
been
enough
time,
but
Minneapolis
or
St,
Paul
or
whatever?
That
has
an
acting
one
of
these
changes?
Is
there
any
analytics?
I
can
say
whether
it's
working
or
it
hasn't
had
that
big
of
an
impact
or
do
we
have
any
data
on
that.
H
Yeah
commissioner
crookton,
the
local
Road
research
board,
which
is
funded
from
part
of
the
Minnesota
gas
tax,
is
recently
is
in
the
process
of
completing
a
study
of
the
lowered
speed
limits
in
Minneapolis
and
St
Paul,
and
it
is
showing
that
they're
not
meeting
the
effective
goals
that
they
were
trying
to.
But
we
can
provide
you
a
copy
of
that
report.
Once
it's
released,
I,
don't
believe
it's
technically
been
released
yet,
but
we
also
have
a
report
from
the
lrb.
H
That's
our
favorite
acronym
for
local
Road
research
board
about
speed
limits
in
school
zones,
so
they're
doing
a
lot
of
the
same
research,
because
a
lot
of
the
communities
in
our
area
are
having
the
same
questions.
So
we
can
get
you
copies
of
both
of
those
the
one
the
school
district.
One
is
out
the.
H
E
D
Know
if
there's
going
to
be
a
whole
lot
of
argument
on
reducing
the
speeds
in
school
zones,
that's
a
very
practical
thing
to
provide
protection
there.
But
as
far
as
the
city,
I
think
goes,
I
I,
don't
know,
and
so
for
me
making
this
a
recommendation
to
council
data
will
be
very
important
and
I'm,
hoping
that
we
don't
take
action
on
this
as
a
city.
D
Until
that
report
is
finalized
and
I
mean
if,
if
the
data
is
showing
there's,
there's
no
difference
and
we're
going
to
spend
millions
of
dollars,
retailing,
our
street
lights,
I,
don't
think
we're
doing
our
residents
of
service
in
that
case,
but
if
there
is
a
reduction
in
in
Crash
injuries,
Etc,
that's
important
for
us
to
know
too
I
see
a
graph
has
appeared
here.
Yep.
H
You
can't
probably
see
the
next
two
tick
marks,
but
the
middle
one
is
25
miles
an
hour
and
the
bottom
one
is
20.,
and
so
you
can
see
that
we
have
a
lot
of
people
that
are
already
doing
that
25
in
our
neighborhoods.
So
we
think
with
some
education,
some
limited
enforcement
we'll
be
able
to
get
those
people
to
drop
into
compliance.
That's
a
better
graph!
Thank
you!
So
we
think
that's
achievable.
H
A
A
The
entire
roadway
because
of
the
lack
of
sidewalk,
so
I
think
not
to
dismiss
the
data
that
may
be
in
there,
but
I
think
it
may
not
be
as
helpful
to
us
in
in
all
areas
as
it
might
be
in
other
areas,
so,
but
I
think
it's
good
to
know
and
I
think
you're
right
having
Data
before
we
go
on
our
gut
is
helpful.
It's
more
defensible,
it's
easier
to
explain,
commissioner
Albert.
F
H
It
would
be
posting
the
signs
as
you
come
into
the
community
and
then
Kirk
and
I
have
been
discussing.
All
of
those
signs
create
confusion
because
they're
most
often
posted
on
collectors
and
arterials,
and
so
there's
a
sign
right
behind
it.
With
a
different
message.
We
haven't
quite
figured
out
what
to
do
differently
with
that,
so
probably
about
75
000
for
new
signs,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
different
roads
as
you
enter
into
the
community.
F
I
guess
my
thought
is
and
I
know
that
I'm
contradicting
what
I
said
earlier,
which
is
that,
but
based
on
this
graph
alone,
I'm,
not
sure
I
mean
I'm,
not
sure.
If,
if
the
goal
is
to
get
to
20,
then
yes,
I,
think
going
down
incrementally
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
But
if
we
have
sort
of
voluntary
compliance
in
that
25
already
and
most
people
are
going
either
25
or
less
then
I
don't
know
if
we
necessarily
need
to
spend
75
000
to
to
do
it.
E
H
It
may
not
look
exactly
like
that,
but
Ray
will
indicate
he
has
a
study
that
says
they
are
most
effective
when
they
are
done
by
flashing
and
not
by
times
I.
Don't
have
kids
I,
don't
know
what
time
school
starts.
Elementary
versus
Middle,
School
I,
don't
know
so
as
a
driver.
You
need
to
tell
me
something
I'm
happy
to
slow
down,
but
I
don't
know
what
to
when
to
slow
down.
So
when
it's
flashing,
that's
clear.
E
E
It's
our
kids,
and
so
it
is
very
important
that
we
make
sure
you
know,
regardless
of
where
we
end
up
going
with
the
speed
limit
in
in
streets,
that
in
those
streets
where
this
the
schools
are,
that
it
definitely
should
go
down
and
that's,
and
that
is
very
clear
for
people
that
that
light's
there
there's
gonna
be
kids.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
would
be
possible,
because
when
I
saw
this
I
was
like.
Oh,
this
is
great.
You
know
we
should
be
having
more
lights
all
around
the
city.
E
With
this,
when
we
have
kids
moving
so
much
in
not
only
the
schools
but
like
the
stadium,
you
know
that
area,
that's
a
pretty
busy
area
too,
and
so
I
am
I
want
to
say
thank
you
for
for,
for
this
work,
I
think
it's
it's
very
important
and
it's
been
expressed
by
several
members
in
the
community
throughout
the
years.
Many
times
you
know,
there's
there's
been
requests
too
to
the
city
for
specific
areas,
and
schools
and
I
know
that
one
of
those
spit
limits-
I,
don't
know
how
you
call
them
those
temporary
ones.
E
E
Okay,
so
sometimes
the
city
will
put
those
in
there
to
kind
of
see
and
study
and
really
determine
if
it's
true
that
people
are
going
fast,
but
obviously,
when
those
are
put
in
their
people
slow
down.
But
then,
when
once
that
is
removed,
they
go
back
the
same
correct
now.
The
other
issue
is
in
schools
like,
for
example,
Hillcrest
Community
School,
where
there
are
cars
coming
from
like
a
street
like,
for
example,
Vincent,
where
there's
a
quick
left
turn
and
there's
no
like
a
speed
pump
in
there.
E
They
go
really
fast
into
that,
and
it's
really
hard
I
think
for
some
people
to
really
see
that,
in
fact,
there
is
a
school
there
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
kids
and
there's
no
sidewalks
in
that
area.
So
that's
a
super
dangerous
thing,
so
my
feedback
is
that
you
know
to
really,
as
you
continue
to
work
in
that
partnership
with
the
school
district,
to
really
look
into
all
the
different
things.
Besides
the
crossroads.
I
E
Know
what
else
can
we
do
to
make
sure
that
we
are
protecting
our
kids
in
winter?
It's
another
issue.
You
know
winter
when
it
gets
so
slippery
when
it
gets
so
icy
and
then
you're
making
those
turns
and
the
kids
are
right
there
coming
out
of
of
a
of
a
specific
corner
or
or
into
the
street
and
or
they
have
nowhere
to
walk
because
of
the
amount
of
snow.
E
Sometimes
I
mean
Bloomington,
does
a
wonderful
job
at
keeping
the
streets
clean,
I
I,
obviously
that's
true,
but
still
you
know
it's
weather
and
so
I
do
appreciate
what
what
you're
gonna
do
here
and
I
do
appreciate
the
bringing
down
that
process
time.
You
know
in
working
with
the
community
to
avoid
some
of
those
long
processes,
then
maybe
sometimes
they
don't
even
get
you
to
do
something
different
for
specific
streets,
so
yeah.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
Mr,
chair,
just
to
follow
up
again
on
the
cost
thing.
We
talked
about
75
000
for
signs
whenever
we
have
to
redo
a
traffic
signal,
it's
shockingly
expensive
for
redoing,
something
that
seems
like
you'd,
be
a
couple
clicks.
Have
you
done
an
analysis
approximately?
How
many
signals
would
have
to
be
redone.
H
At
this
time,
we're
only
proposing
local
Street
speed
limit
changes,
we're
not
we're
still
working
on
the
collector
and
arterial
and
we're
getting
a
lot
of
comments
on
those,
but
we're
not
ready
to
present
that
to
the
public
and
that's
a
good
feedback
on
how
many
signals
we
will
need
to
retime.
We
have
Bloomington
operates,
121
signals
now,
not
all
of
those
are
in
our
jurisdiction
and
some
of
those
are
up
serving
Terminal
2
of
the
airport.
H
H
The
re-timing
of
the
street
signal
is
not
usually
that
expensive,
it's
probably
five
to
seven
thousand
dollars,
it's
staff
time
and
running
all
the
different
trials
and
making
sure
the
computer
program.
You
don't
have
a
bug
in
it
because
you
don't
want
to
put
a
bug
out
in
the
street.
The
issue
is
often
when
we're
re-timing
them.
We're
also
upgrading
the
controller,
because
we
haven't
upgraded
the
controller
since
1950,
and
so
the
new
electronics
are
expensive,
and
so
the
that
is
the
physical
Hardware
is
probably
the
more
expensive
component
of
it.
H
E
Just
one
more
thing
that
I
wanted
to
mention
regarding
education,
you
mentioned
education
and
that's
a
really
good
point.
You
know
educating
once
again
the
community
reminders
of
where
we
need
to
be
specially
careful.
You
know
when
we're
talking
about
those
school
areas
and
not
only
that,
but
also
as
you
work
together
with
the
school
district
education
for
our
own
kids,
right
and
education,
even
to
our
parents,
who
at
once
dropping
off
kids
at
a
certain
time,
so
there's
more
traffic
and
and
even
staff.
E
A
You
know
I
think
we
talk
about.
You,
know
the
cost
of
signs
and
whatnot,
but
there's
a
certain
percentage
of
signs
that
get
replaced
just
because
their
life
cycle
has
worn
out,
and
sometimes
we
stretch
that
a
little
longer
than
as
optimal
because
of
a
budget
or
whatever.
But
you
know
I
think
it's
good
to
have
those
data,
but
I
also
think
that
sometimes
the
right
thing
is
is
the
right
thing
and
we'll
see
what
the
numbers
tell
us.
Other
feedback
for
staff.
H
A
A
A
There's
a
motion
in
a
second
to
adapt
the
Planning
Commission
synopsis
from
March
9th
any
discussion.
All
those
in
favor
say:
I
I
opposed
abstain,
absolutely
all
right.
The
motion
passes.
The
next
item
is
the
March
23rd
meeting
synopsis
and
Commissioners
Albrecht
and
Abdi
were
not
present.
I
would
look
for
a
motion
on
that.
One,
so
moved.
A
B
Chair
Roman
and
Commissioners.
Our
next
meeting
is
in
two
weeks:
May
11th.
We
have
one
item
on
that
agenda
and
it
is
a
privately
initiated
city
code
text,
amendment
to
allow
K-12
schools
as
a
conditional
use
in
the
I2
zoning
District
and
then
in
four
weeks,
May
25th.
We
just
have
one
item
on
that
agenda
as
well,
and
that
is
a
city
initiated
ordinance,
granting
exceptions
to
operating
hours
of
mobile
food
units,
also
known
as
food
trucks
located
within
250
feet
of
residential
zoning
districts.
A
A
I
would
personally
make
a
note
for
anyone
who
is
again
the
my
running
joke
the
three
people
who
are
watching
or
if
you
know,
people
we
do
have
openings
for
three
seats
on
the
Planning
Commission
applications
are
being
accepted
through
May
7th,
which
I
believe
is
a
week
from
Monday
so
about
another
10
days.
This
is
a
great
opportunity
for
anyone
who's
interested
in
being
involved
in
the
community.
There
are
two
three-year
seats
and
one
two-year
vacancy
and
those
applications
are
due.
A
The
seventh
I
know,
interviews
are
coming
in
in
May
and
I
believe
those
will
terms
will
begin
in
July.
So
that's
my
own
personal
plug
for
anyone
who's
interested
or
thinks
they
might
be
interested,
get
in
touch
with
staff.
There's
information
on
the
website
and
I
think
anyone
who's
on
the
commission
would
be
happy
to
chat
with
anyone
who
would
like
to
know
more
other
items
for
the
go
to
the
order.