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From YouTube: Joint Meeting ACHD & City of Boise
Description
March 1, 2023
A
Well,
good
morning,
everyone
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
call
the
meeting
to
order
hi.
Commissioner
gold,
can
you
hear
us
okay,
so
I
picked
it
off.
On
my
end
and
just
a
reminder,
we
have
mics
in
the
ceiling,
so
please
speak
up
for
all
of
us,
Commissioners
and
Council
and
mayor,
so
that
folks
online
can
hear
us.
B
A
Perfect
so
I
guess
I'll
just
kick
things
off
and
just
say
that
this
was
a.
You
know,
request
by
I
think
both
agencies
to
get
a
better
sense
of
where
the
city
is
at
and
the
plans
and
work
that
you've
done
and
with
vision,
zero
and
I'm
excited
to
have
a
presentation
from
free,
and
is
it
all
right
if
we?
Obviously,
this
is
a
very
different
style
work
session
style.
So
we're
good
to.
Are
you
with
questions
free?
D
C
First,
I'll
start
by
sharing
how
the
group
came
to
be,
and
then
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
specifics
of
the
framework
that
they
used.
Okay,
so
the
first
time
we
saw
Vision
zero
mentioned
as
an
Initiative
for
the
city
was
in
our
transportation
action
plan
in
2016..
Safety
for
all
was
identified
as
one
of
the
top
six
initiatives
that
the
city's
action
plan
could
take
on
and
adopting
a
vision.
C
Zero
framework
was
one
of
the
programs
we
hope
to
take
on
to
create
safer
roads
and
adopting
such
a
policy
was
also
a
recommendation
on
our
bicycle,
friendly
City
status
with
the
league
of
American
cyclists.
So
it's
something
we've
heard
over
the
years
and
then
in
2021
it
really
became
a
priority
to
help
the
city
develop
an
action
plan
to
reduce
Serious
injury
and
Death
on
our
streets
and
really
identify
what
things
we
could
realistically
do
and
where
we
might
need
to
partner
with
others.
So
here
you'll
see
the
group
that
we
had
tasked.
C
Probably
a
lot
of
familiar
faces,
a
lot
of
advocates
in
the
community
representing
different
sectors
and,
of
course,
some
neighborhood
representation
as
well,
and
as
the
group
met
one
of
the
first
things
that
emerged
was
the
term
Vision.
Zero
has
really
evolved
to
now
reflect
approach
rather
than
the
goal.
So
the
reason
why
it's
on
your
agenda
list
is
Vision
Zero,
Safe
Systems
is
because
this
is
sort
of
the
new
framework.
We're
thinking
about
this
as
Vision
zero
is
the
goal
creating
Safe
Systems
is
how
we'll
be
able
to
get
there.
C
Today
that
was
used
to
do
just
this
accommodate
human
error,
and
then
one
of
the
second
principles
here
you'll
see
is
people
are
vulnerable.
The
human
body
only
has
so
many
limits
for
tolerating
crashes
and
I
think
this
is
something
we
can
think
about.
Very
simply,
the
faster
a
crash
occurs
at
the
higher
likelihood.
It
is
to
be
fatal
or
serious,
and
then
safety
is
proactive.
C
The
Safe,
Systems
approach
is
relying
on
a
systemic
view
of
the
system,
so
not
just
what
intersection
is
problematic,
but
what
are
components
of
that
intersection
that
exist
across
the
entire
system?
Where
do
we
see
those
same
conditions
across
multiple
intersections
and
we're
not
just
that
one
spot
that
looks
like
trouble?
C
But
these
are
a
few
of
the
things
that
really
stood
out
to
the
group.
Some
things
you
might
expect,
like
crashes
occurring
in
typical
peak
hours,
the
age
of
drivers
tending
to
be
young
18
to
28
and
the
27
range,
and
then
one
I
found
the
most
interesting
here
was
38
of
pedestrian
crashes
are
occurring
while
The
Pedestrian
was
walking
on
a
crosswalk
free
before
you
move
on
so
fatal
crashes.
Is
that
including
car
on
carp?
Yes,
this
is
this.
C
F
C
A
part
of
that
dashboard
is
a
map,
and
you
there's
a
link
to
this
on
our
website,
but
I
can
send
it
out
afterward
as
well.
I
would
have
pulled
it
up
today,
but
it's
slow
to
upload
all
the
data,
so
I
just
stuff
this
out
here.
This
is
2016
to
2020
and
a
map
of
all
of
the
Fatal
and
incapacitating
crashes.
You
can
go
through
the
dashboard
and
see
what
road
classification
it
was.
C
A
And
Bree
I
kind
of
get
hung
up
on
the
right
with
most
harmful
of
it,
because
I
would
assume
rear
ends
and
the
data
isn't
demonstrating
that
it
is
a
harmful,
the
most
harmful
in
terms
of
percentage
of
fatal
or
city
capacity.
So
are
those
just
I,
don't
know
if
that
could
just
be
re-titled
to
frequency
versus
most
harmful,
because
it's
right,
I.
C
Mean
yes,
absolutely,
president
Pickering!
This
is
some
of
the
language.
That's
cited
on
police
reports,
because
that's
how
that's
how
they
record
it
and
that's
how
it's
reported
back
so
when
you
say
most
harmful
event,
we're
taking
what
they
have
cited
as
the
primary
cause
of
the
crash
and
not
maybe
other
contributing
factors.
So,
let's
say
rear
end
is
the
most
harmful
event.
Contributing
cause
could
be
following
too
closely,
so
there's
two
different
things
there
and
most
harmful
event,
and
what
you're
seeing
here
is
for
pedestrians.
A
B
The
things
that
the
incident
reports
is
used,
so
that's
their
language,
so
we're
not
going
to
change
it
because
we're
keeping
data
but
it
rear
end
means
they
were
called
for
an
accident.
They
primarily
a
rear
end
accident
pedestrian
means
they
were
called
pedestrians
and
was
aware
of
pedal
cycle
was
event
was
was
the
event
that
caused
yeah.
C
C
G
C
President
Pickering,
on
other
parts
of
this
dashboard,
you
can
layer,
in
other
things
like
the
contributing
circumstance,
and
that
makes
the
column
on
the
right
make
a
little
bit
more
sense.
So
I'm
definitely
going
to
get
you
the
link,
and
then
you
can
kind
of
play
around
with
it
yourself
see
how
the
most
harmful
event
changes
depending
on.
C
This
is
something
we
looked
at
as
well
when
we
were
looking
at
really
the
difference
between
Ustick
and
Fairview
the
difference
in
types
of
crashes.
If
you
think
about
the
conditions
on
Fairview,
you
have
a
lot
of
front
on
businesses
with
Drive
access
directly
onto
the
arterial.
You
also
allow
left
turns
from
exiting
those,
so
you
have
people
making
left
turns,
maybe
across
three
lanes
of
traffic.
So
it's
not
terribly
surprising.
C
Absolutely
that'd
be
very
helpful
because
it'd
be
yes
and
commissioner
Hanson.
When
you,
when
you
get
the
link
to
the
portal,
you
can
click
on
each
one
and
see
what
time
of
day
it
was,
and
one
of
the
other
tabs
is
intersection
lighting,
and
we
saw
that
crashes
that
happen
after
dark
tend
to
be
more
DUIs
crashes
that
happen
during
the
daytime
are
less
likely
to
have
that
element.
C
But
there
wasn't
really
any
correlation
between
we're
seeing
more
crashes
when
there's
no
lights
in
the
intersection
that
didn't
pan
out
and
then
this
is
the
same
map
just
showing
non-incapacitating,
so
maybe
a
less
serious
injury,
possible
injuries
and
then
property
damage
pretty
similar.
You
can
see
Fair
views
sticking
out
as
one
that
has
a
lot
of
non-incapacitating,
but
this
this
just
shows
you
that
rear
ends
still
tend
to
be
one
of
the
biggest
car
car
crashes.
We
see.
F
F
C
And
president
Pickering,
commissioner
goldthorpe,
that
might
be
an
updated
consideration.
If
you
look
at
what's
been
done
since
2016,
how
has
it
changed?
What
new
businesses
have
arrived
on
the
court
or
what
new
access
points
have
arrived
on
the
corridor?
That
might
be
helpful
to
look
at
okay
and
then
finally,
getting
into
the
group's
recommended
strategies
and
timeline.
C
Creating
neighborhood
traffic
safety
toolkits
targeting
what
is
traditionally
the
education
component
of
vision,
zero,
one
of
the
five
E's
to
tackle
traffic
safety
and
then
working
through
these
other
ones
will
be
really
interesting
because,
as
you
all
many
of
you
heard
at
Compass
yesterday,
they
were
awarded
a
four
hundred
thousand
dollar
Safe
Streets
for
all
planning.
Grant
and
I
borrowed
a
slide
from
their
presentation,
with
their
permission,
to
show
a
little
bit
of
process
that
we'll
go
through.
C
Getting
at
the
regional
vision
and
goals
for
Transportation
safety,
engaging
stakeholders
doing
this
data-driven
analysis
that
we've
started
some
of
the
work
for
in
identifying
proven
countermeasures
things
that
you
all
are
already
starting
to
identify,
leading
pedestrian
intervals,
testing
out
the
different
types
of
delineate
or
materials.
Things
like
that.
So
this
will
be
really
good,
because,
once
this
plan
is
established,
anybody
in
the
community,
anybody
in
the
region
any
entity
can
go
apply
for
the
money.
C
Next
steps
participating
in
that
in
developing
that
Regional
Safety
Action
Plan,
you
all-
were
very
engaged
in
that
process
when
they
submitted
the
Grant
and
got
the
scope
ready.
So
now
that
scope
is
ready
to
go
they're
going
to
get
it
out
the
door
and
start
doing
the
agreements
necessary
to
get
the
planning
underway
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We'll
continue
to
work
through
the
strategies
we
identified
through
the
task
force
and
then
seek
your
direction
and
partnership
on
approaches
that
can
balance
those
quick
wins
with
long-term
systemic
changes.
F
That's
right!
Sorry,
I,
forget
that
the
mics
are
up
there,
a
number
of
other
ones,
and
it
would
be
I
wonder
in
this
time
frame
when
we're
waiting
for
the
regional
plan
to
really
get
going.
If
we
could
move
forward
on
some
more
of
those
and
use
that
as
a
way
to
collect
data,
if
you
put
those
delineators
in
or
curbing
or
whatever
it
is,
we
do
on
those
routes,
do
safety
and
increase
use
and
that
data
then
could
be
into
the
plan.
C
I
lost
my
clicker
access,
but
if
I
could
go
back
to
one
of
the
slides
that
talks
about
a
long-term
goal,
which
I
think
is
really
doable
with,
your
partnership
is
before
and
after
studies
of
corridors
that
you're
doing
these
things
on
callster
Kootenay,
all
the
things
you're
implementing
on
those
streets
being
intentional
about
the
data
you're
collecting
through
design
and
then
a
few
years
after
implementation,
a
process
for
what
are
we
looking
at
on
the
corridor
after
we
did
this
design
so
really
I.
Think
it
really
easy
thing
to
do
so.
C
Sure
Council
or
investing
that
up
today,
president
Pickering,
the
data
that
we
saw
through
this
process
doesn't
change
too
much
of
the
things
we're
asking
for
it
does
show
where
we
might
prioritize
things
differently.
We
are
hoping
for
the
same
thing:
people
friendly
streets,
better
safety
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
protected
bike
Lanes.
These
are
all
things
that
we've
always
been
really
excited
about,
but
I
think
it's
helped
us
change
the
order
of
things
and
see
that
maybe
improvements
to
downtown
streets
should
have
a
little
bit
higher
priority.
C
H
Of
the
things
that
we're
requesting
are
types
of
things
that
you
see,
Incorporated
in
division,
zero
planning,
and
so
those
projects
don't
really
change
but
trying
to
figure
out
like
what
the
universal
policy
changes,
I
think
are
where
we're
trying
to
get
at
a
little
bit
more
so
that
we're
not
just
looking
at
these
one-off
projects
and
saying
this
is
what
we
want
to
see
here.
This
is
what
we
want
to
see.
H
E
H
Of
the
things
that
we
know
when
we're
looking
at
fatalities
is
that
speed
kills,
and
so
we
have
to
figure
out
ways
where
we
re-examine
how
we're
looking
at
speed
and
how
we're
deciding
what
speed
is
going
to
be
in
areas
where
there's
potentially
higher
pedestrian
activity,
and
not
just
using
an
old
formula
that
might
apply,
might
be
a
great
tool
that,
like
as
a
whole,
but
doesn't
actually
pinpoint
the
different
areas
and
trying
to
figure
out
where
those
pinpoints
are
or
the
work
that
you've
been
doing.
With,
like
the
leading
pedestrian
intervals.
E
H
That
this
is
a
policy
that
can
make
it
easier
for
somebody
to
be
seen
and
potentially
increases
the
time
in
which
this
person
has
to
get
across
the
crosswalk.
You
know
when
I
was
in
my
Walker
a
few
weeks
ago
and
I'm
sure
the
mayor
has
experiencing
this
right
now,
it's
pretty
darn
hard
to
get
across
some
of
these
intersections
when
you're
moving
a
little
bit
slower.
H
So
what
are
the
policy
changes
when
we're
evaluating
the
speed
in
which
somebody
crosses
a
crosswalk
where
the
leading
pedestrian
interval,
and
so
you
finding
those
policies,
those
sort
of
broader
types
of
things?
So
it's
not
just
the
projects
we're
recommending,
but
it's
kind
of
every
project
that
goes
in.
If
that
makes
sense.
G
G
This
is
one
of
my
questions
to
Bree
or
to
all
of
you
is
how
how
started
to
use
this
tool
that
we've
now
developed
called
livable
streets,
performance
measures
or
level
of
traffic
stress
so
that
there
are
in
a
these
things
are
present,
then
the
the
way
in
which
pedestrian
or
cyclists
will
experience.
This
is
going
to
be
level
one
and
that
we
then
can
say
we
want
to
achieve
level
of
traffic
stress
one
in
this
context,
and
so
then,
what
do
we
need
to
do?
We
have
to
have
vertical
elements.
G
We
have
a
shorter,
Crossing,
distance
and
so
forth,
and
what
we've
discovered
you
know
is
that
we
are
we
construct
facilities
with
two
things
in
mind:
a
road
facility,
especially
in
arterial
and
many
collectors.
The
whole
Vision
in
which
it
was
created
was
to
move
traffic,
and
so
it's,
how
is
the
driver
viewing
that?
So
it's
an
arterial?
G
This
is
how
a
driver
can
view
this,
so
they
enter
it
and
the
traffic
next
traffic
light
isn't
for
half
a
mile
so
that
we're
giving
them
all
the
signals
that
they
just
they
have
to
focus
in
in
the
distance.
They
don't
have
to
worry
about
what's
happening
nearby
when
in
fact,
nearby
and
I
think
this
describes.
G
Fairview
quite
well
is
a
lot
of
pedestrian
or
bicycle
activity
in
people
crossing,
but
what
we've
done
is
we've
given
them
signals
to
stay
focus
in
the
distance,
and
it's
easy
to
then,
especially
in
a
non-peak,
to
accelerate
we're
doing
the
reverse
for
pedestrians,
we're
saying:
okay,
you
can
cross
here.
Here's
the
signal,
here's
something
you
can
do
a
push
button.
You
know
the
classic
example
was
on
Ustick,
where
we
that
we
created
a
crossing
right
in
the
middle
of
a
block
to
a
church
that
a
child
was
crossing
to.
G
We
were
giving
them
the
signal
it's
safe
to
cross
here,
any
time
of
day
they
they
work.
They
pushed
the
button
across
the
street,
but
those
two
signals
one
to
the
driver
that
you
can
go
as
fast
as
you
want
on
this
stretch
and
one
to
The
Pedestrian
the
you
can
safely
cross
here
onto
a
fatality
and
sadly,
both
families
now
live
within
their
life.
So
that's
trying
to
work
out
what
how
do
we
make
those
mesh
so
that
we
don't
create
conflicting
signals
in
both
places?
G
Centers
like
up
up
at
push
and
pour
on
the
bench
bench
as
activity
centers
change.
How
do
we
then
change
the
signals
that
drivers
and
pedestrians
are
getting
so
that
they're
consistent
so
that
a
driver
says
okay,
I've
been
on
this
road
I
haven't
had
to
expect
pedestrians
now
I
do
now
I
do
so.
What
are
the
physical
things
that
are
telling
them
I?
Think
the
the
lineators
on
Maple
Grove
are
a
little
tiny
start
towards
that.
This
is
disrespect.
G
There's
a
school
here,
a
lot
of
children,
a
lot
of
activity,
but
we
have
to
figure
out
something
in
our
policies,
so
that
there's
a
consistency-
and
there
isn't
this
this
sort
of
argument
of
oh,
my
gosh.
If
we
do
this,
then
we'll
delay
traffic
or
if
we
do
this
nobody's
gonna,
invest
in
US
in
this
area,
because.
I
I
And
this
future
that
people
in
Boise
Envision
and
how
do
we
have
a
transportation
system
that
also
respects
that
Future
Vision
for
Boise,
where
people
are
able
to
walk
on
some
of
their
daily
errands
and
maybe
they're
not
having
to
get
into
their
cars
for
every
single
thing?
So
it's
a
really
interesting,
Nexus
and
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up.
G
G
You
know
that's
a
big
thing:
the
policy
change
would
be
very
helpful,
collector
streets,
local
streets,
especially
where
you
do
experience
as
speeding
the
naspers
project,
is
a
classic
example
where
it's
just
designed
to
go
fast
and
a
lot
of
people
to
avoid
Overland,
take
Nez
Perce
but
they're
driving
by
a
school,
and
it's
a
bus
route,
and
it's
there's
lots
of
stuff
going
on
there.
So
it's
not
consistent
with
what
overall
it's
designed
for.
So
they
need
to
know
that
policies.
G
G
D
Goldberg,
sorry,
we
could
probably
change
the
wording
on
our
policy,
but
I
would
rewind
it's
been
a
couple
of
years,
since
we
required
a
neighborhood
to
do
what
Jim
allowed
to
have
been
using
neighborhoods
quests
and
the
five-year
work
plan
and
other
means
that
make
their
things
happen
quicker,
and
it
hasn't
been
that
we
want
them
to
what
used
to
happen
five
six
eight
years
ago.
We're
not
doing
that
any
longer.
F
As
I
I
envisioned
that
ultimately
we'd
have
a
policy
that
would
talk
about
what
happens
in
what
happens
on
capital
projects.
How
do
I
identify
the
places
fixed
today
and
figure
out
how
to
prioritize
those,
whether
they
be
roadway
projects
or
pedestrian
projects
or
Bikeway?
Whatever
the
third
thing
that
we
haven't
I,
don't
think
thought
a
lot
about
in
the
zoning
code.
Rewrite
has
really
highlighted.
F
It
is
honestly
appropriate
role
and
the
appropriate
time
for
ADHD
to
comment
to
us
on
a
development
application
more
comprehensively
than
at
the
flat
level
in
one
or
two
little
things.
You
know
right
around
the
development
or
adjacent
to
the
development.
So
you
know
it
might
be
a
three-step
policy,
new
development
projects
fixing
places
that
are
already
built.
But
then
what
happens
when
new
development
comes
at
a
place?
That's
already
built
to
get
us
closer
to
where
we
want
to
be.
C
Oh
yes,
Madam
mayor
council
president,
that
was
actually
a
better
intro
than
I
could
have
given
our
modern
zoning
code
will
change
the
way
people
interact
with
the
streets.
It'll
change
the
way
people
relate
to
the
streets,
these
new
developments,
the
changes
in
where
we're
focusing
on
the
growth.
Those
are
all
things
that
change
the
way
people
interact
with
your
facilities
and
we
try
to
take
into
account
where
existing
facilities
exist.
But,
like
the
council
president,
said
what
changes?
A
Mayor
I
think
when
you
guys
presented
just
the
high
level
zoning
code
rewrite
in
the
structure
of
that,
like
I,
might
gonna
butcher
the
name,
but
that
meeting
before
right,
like
and
having
achg
staff
being
part
of
that
meeting.
I
think
is
an
amazing
no-brainer
to
me,
and
so
I
would
just
say
we
are
on
the
same
page.
We
want
to
be
able
to
coordinate
and
understand
where,
because
we
we
see
those
issues
too
at
the
commission
or
it's
like.
A
So
I
would
just
say
that
back
to
you
is
who
can
provide
your
initial
thoughts
or
ideas
of
how
we
can
be
better,
even
more
efficient
in
that
and
where
staff
could
participate
with
your
work,
I
think
you
leading
that
conversation
would
be
beneficial
and
then
we
can
work
through.
Is
that
the
right
time
to
set
time
of
our
policies
and
we
can
respond
freely
so
I-
think
if
you
can
take
the
initiative.
B
C
B
That
has
got
to
go
through
the
steps
before
something
is
fully
brought
to
you
all
so
it'll
be
in
front
of
Planning
and
Zoning
in
April,
and
then
Council
it's
out
right
now
and
I
I
understood
correctly.
At
the
last
meeting,
our
staff
had
said.
Yes,
this
was
a
proposal,
but
of
course
they
would
work
with
your
staff
to
make
sure
that
it
works
for
every
moving
forward
once
it
is,
our
staff
gets
the
nod
that,
yes,
this
is
the
direction
that
planning
and
zoning
and
Council
might
go.
H
Better
mayor
president,
at
Green,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
conversation.
I,
think
that
it
helps
us
put
some
of
these
policies
and
recommendations
in
into
place,
but
I
also
think
it's
a
little
bit
separate.
The
division.
Zero
I
think,
is
communication
kind
of
around
the
zoning
code.
The
way
that
we
work
together
to
find
commonality,
I
think
with
vision,
zero
and
when
I
look
at
that
last
that
bullet
point
of
partnering
with
achd.
H
That
sort
of
add
to
this
that
are
identified
so,
like
the
level
of
stress
and
the
things
that
you
we've
already
been
working
on
with
bikeways
is
like
a
really
great
example:
upcoming
policies
that
you're
already
planning
on
like
the
leading
pedestrian
interval
on
the
new
shared
policies
that
we're
sort
of
exploring
together
and
then
also
exploring.
This
Compass
builds
out
a
little
bit
of
this
plan
and
other
things
that
we
could
be
working
on,
but.
E
H
E
H
Done
this
in
this
area,
and
it
makes
sense
and
it's
reducing
the
issues
that
we've
seen
you
know
the
example
that
we've
talked
about
most
recently
is
I'll,
listen
to
State
Street,
where
there
was
a
recent
fatality.
If
we
can
Implement
something
there,
and
if
we
can
see
that
it
has
the
effect
that
we
need
that
it
makes
it
easier
for
us
to
then
say
we
need
to
apply
these
same
effects
to
other
areas
and
so
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
what
you
know.
H
What
my
hope
is
is
that
there
is
sort
of
a
shared
effort
to
combine
the
systems
that
you're
already
working
on
the
systems
that
you
know
we
want
to
see
and
that
they're
in
a
vocation
where
we
can
measure
the
progress
that
they're
making
that
can
inform
us.
Yes,
we
need
to
do
this.
We
need
to
do
this
faster
or
no.
This
actually
didn't
have
the
effect
that
we
thought
it
was
going
to.
If
that
makes
sense,.
E
A
Because
I
think
thank
you
backing
off
of
that
comment.
I
want
to
know
like
what's
next
and
how
can
we
start
working
together
on
this
and
obviously
there's
so
many
facets?
That's
right!
You're
talking
about
systems
you're
talking
about
existing
deficiencies,
you
know
retrofitting
or
projects
that
are
on
Deck
right,
there's
all
these
different
components.
So
where
are
we
exactly
like
in
this.
B
I'd
also
ask
you
just
to
delineate
as
well
the
different
roles
of
kind
of
Staff
engagement
and
policy
maker
and
because
they're
a
great
professional
teams
here
at
uchd
and
at
the
city
that
have
the
expertise
I'm,
particularly
in
this
agency,
and
have
the
expertise
to
do
a
lot
of
this
and
then
some
roles
for
policy
makers
to
look
at
policy
policy.
Take
it
with
that
approach,
I
think
it
because
it's
Our
intention
that
our
teams
work
together
because
they're
the
ones
with
the
most
expertise
on
these
things
and
then
bring
us.
C
Madam
mayor
president
Pickering
I
think
a
good
example
is
what
you're
about
to
see
this
afternoon
on
the
commission
agenda
from
Ryan's
team,
the
leading
pedestrian
interval
plan.
That's
an
example
of
something
staff
and
is
now
presenting
to
policy
makers,
so
I'm
thinking
about
that,
while
I'm
thinking
about
this,
because
we
don't
want
to
duplicate
any
of
the
work
our
respective
teams
are
doing.
C
But
whatever
is
learned
through
this
LPI
implementation
process,
maybe
there's
some
things
that
you
learn
as
you're,
implementing
that
we
can
use
to
implement
things
like
or
develop
a
high
Injury
Network
and
to
review
the
speed
limit,
setting
process
to
create
alignment,
and
some
of
these
things
will
can
be
done
together.
As
far
as
what
city
staff
will
start
taking
on
now
and
is
already
working
on,
is
the
neighborhood
traffic
safety
toolkits?
That's
that's
sort
of
our
next
step.
That's
the
next
thing.
C
We'll
we'll
start
it
and
then
work
with
your
staff
on
iterations
of
what
they
hear
from
neighborhoods.
This
is
the
neighborhood
traffic
safety
toolkits
there's
a
tool
we
hope
to
push
out
to
the
neighborhood
associations
like
in
your
neighborhood.
Your
speed
limits
are
this:
you
have
this
kind
of
bicycle
infrastructure.
You
have
this
kind
of
intersection
treatments,
things
like
that
just
Educational
Tools.
So
it
is
something
we
feel
like.
We
can
take
all
of
the
plans
you
have
and
wrap
them
up
in
a
way
that
neighborhood
associations
can
use
to
inform
residents.
D
D
C
In
the
last
joint
meeting,
where
we
talked
about
speed
limits
being
enforced
by
Design,
that's
clearly
a
policy
maker
role
and
something
we
can
work
with
as
staff,
but
it's
really
set
out
in
your
policy
manual
and,
of
course,
part
of
our
zoning
code
efforts
how
our
built
environment
reinforces,
what's
happening
on
the
streets
criteria
for
installation
of
right
on
red,
looking
out
to
these
three
to
five
year
goals.
This
is
something
we
would
have
to
work
together
on
because
we
have
this
land
use
perspective.
C
That
says:
here's
where
schools
are
here's
where
really
high
pedestrian
environments
are
like.
We
know
that
information,
and
then
you
all
know
how
the
intersection
functions
for
traffic
and
how
it
needs
to
function
and
how
those
two
can
work
together
to
create
maybe
some
criteria
for
installation
right
on
red
and
then
long
term.
C
I,
don't
think
this
has
to
be
that
long
term,
but
it
is
in
the
five
to
ten
year
range
because
of
the
before
and
after
component,
but
creating
the
standard
evaluation
template,
that's
something
we
do
together.
We
decide
like
what
factors
are
important
to
each
of
us
and
how
can
we
create
a
template
now
that
we
know
projects
will
be
measured
for
in
the
future?
C
I
don't
know
if
I
as
clearly
delineated
who's
on
person
where
we're
starting,
but
no
we're
starting
here,
working
on
some
messaging
to
our
residents
about
Traffic
Safety
within
their
own
neighborhoods
and
then
working
with
you
all.
Maybe
we
can
get
into
some
of
the
high
Injury
Network
map,
analysis
and
speed
limit
setting,
but
I
would
deal.
F
To
you
remember,
excuse
me,
remember
that
we
did
this
internally
in
the
city
and
it
wasn't.
You
know,
in
collaboration
with
you
as
I.
Look
at
it
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
now
expand
it
and
broaden
it
and
broaden
the
collaboration
on
some
of
those
projects,
especially
the
neighborhood
traffic
safety,
kits.
F
Make
sure
that
they're,
in
line
with
the
policies
and
and
I
I,
know
that
our
staff's
looking
at
your
policies
to
develop
them
but
get
you
involved
in
that
things
that
aren't
on
there,
for
instance,
are
more
in
your
Arena
I.
Think
at
some
point,
there's
probably
an
update
to
the
livable
streets
guide
and
accompanying
that
probably
an
update
to
the
master
stream
spam
I.
F
H
H
You
know
low-hanging
fruit
if
you
will
or
some
discussions
that
we
need
to
start
together.
You
know,
while
that
other
plan
is
happening
because
I
don't
think
that
we
should
wait
for
that
plan
completely,
because
it's
going
to
take
a
long
time
to
get
done.
It's
going
to
focus
on
the
entire
Valley
and
then
people
will
have
to
then
begin
applying
for
funds.
It
would
sure
be
nice
to
know
what
we
might
be
wanting
to
apply
for
funds.
H
E
H
What
some
of
these
other
things
might
be
and
then
bringing
them
in
front
of
the
groups
decide
if
these
are
things
that
we
would
want
to
go
for
I!
Guess
that's
what
I
Envision
but
again
I
think
it's!
You
know
up
to
up
to
the
entire
group
and
certainly
up
to
the
mayor's
office
on
how
we
would
want
to
direct
staff.
B
A
A
That's
something
that
I've
noticed
with
my
neighborhood
associations
that
they
really
need
that
type
of
information,
but
I
think
having
the
more
that
we
can
have
our
staff
part
of
those
conversations
and
those
partnership
opportunities
as
early
as
possible
it.
It
makes
the
most
sense
because
they're
going
to
know
whether
or
not
things
like
that
actually
get.
You
know
if
you
have
like
an
issue
or
something
like
that:
oh
yeah.
Well,
this
is
what
it
is
on
paper,
but
there
other
actual
ways
to
get
that
problem
solved
in
a
variety
of
other
ways.
A
Right
so
I
think
that,
even
though
you
guys
have
that
information
already
having
us
be
part
of
that
as
soon
as
apply
that
to
everything
else
and
then
also
we've
been,
you
know
made
in
addition
to
commissioner
goldthorpe's
point
with
our
staff,
you
know:
we've
had
some
really
big
progress
with
our
own
efforts
as
well.
So
with
the
LPI,
the
mini
sleeper
out
front,
we've
got
two
other
ones
that
are
coming
and
so
I
think
just
the
more
that
we
can
also
share
what
we're
working
on
and
how
that
also
impacts
benefits.
G
Two
things
one
is
the
we
use
a
lot
of
the
ideas
that
we're
working
on
were
generated
through
conversations
discussions
and
our
advisory
committees
they're
tremendously
valuable.
The
four
Commissioners
who
were
here
I've
been
regularly
attended
less
unless
and
they
talk
about
the
exact
same
neighborhoods
that
you're
representing.
G
G
E
G
C
G
G
C
President
Pickering
commissioner
Hanson,
as
we
start
putting
these
together,
we
know
who
those
neighborhoods
are.
We
don't
hear
from
very
much
and
we
know
who
the
ones
we
are
we
hear
from
the
most,
but
we
also
enjoy
really
open
communication
with
your
staff.
We
have
a
monthly
regularly
scheduled
meeting
where
we
can
bring
little
things
like
this
or
bigger
things
and
talk
through
things
like
that.
So
we
we
have
the
Forum
to
discuss
them
and
can
bring
them
along
the
way.
A
B
B
It
but
I
hope
that
you
create
the
heard
and
Bree
heard
that
there's
opportunity
for
staff
to
work
together.
You
know
this
is
where
we're
at
it
sounds
like
you
guys
have
some
things
to
work
on
as
a
commission
today.
That
then,
would
be
right
for
a
joint
conversation
between
agencies
or
report,
but
I
just
asked
you
know,
for
we
wrap
up.
If
there's
more,
you
all
would
like
to
see
or
know
or
if
there
are
particular
steps.
You'd,
like
our
team
to
start
taking
with
yours
to
get
some
of
this
moving.
A
Well,
we
so
just
to
recap
so
achdr
commission
we've
completed
a
policy
Retreat
several
weeks
ago,
and
we
did
some
inventory
of
some.
You
know
highly
requested
overlapping
policies
that
we've
seen
from
all
different
types
of
folks
that
we're
asking
asking
to
take
a
look
at
so
we'll
be
structuring
a
review
of
those
said
policies
into
some
into
some.
Several
buckets
and
those
are
you
know,
ranging
from
Asset
Management
access
management.
Excuse
me
to
requesting
traffic
calming
or
project
fit.
A
So
I
think
your
point
about
how
do
we
address
new
development
versus
existing,
like
those
pieces,
were
very
much
conversations
that
we
had
at
that
Retreat,
so
I
think
because
I'm
thinking
of
like
okay?
How
do
we
operationalize
and
move
forward
at
the
commission
level?
Is
that
we'll
be
presenting
and
having
work
sessions
on
those
various
policy
potential
amendments?
And
so
what
I
would
like
to
just
see
and
have?
Is
your
guys's
involvement,
whether
that's
testifying
or
coming
to
a
work
session?
Saying
hey?
A
This
is
where
we're
seeing
this
conflict
or
how
this
could
provide
a
solution
to
feed
into
Vision
zero,
or
this
supports
or
doesn't
support
this,
as
well
as,
like
our
zoning
code,
rewrite
right.
That's
in
you
know,
I
think,
having
much
more
of
a
direct
presence
of
UL
giving
us
input
on
these
policy
decisions
would
be
helpful
and
that's
how
I'm
thinking
of
initially
operational
chair.
B
I
have
a
question:
is
it
not
better
to
have
it
sooner
than
when
the
commission
is
weighing
it
sure?
Absolutely
all
right,
because
in
my
mind
it
makes
more
sense
just
as
we're
talking
about
how
we
streamline
the
process
where
our
staff
talks
are
really
into
development.
Education,
in
my
mind,
in
a
work
session
or
a
commission
meeting
for
us
to
send
somebody
to
testify,
is
really
too
late.
I
A
G
I
just
want
to
point
out,
we
actually
do
have
have
said
a
precedent
with
respect
to
policy
updates,
which
happened
a
number
of
years
ago,
with
the
help
of
your
fire
department,
when
we
were
deciding
whether
Link
Road
assistant
and
we
actually
do
have
different
approaches
to
Boise
than
we
have
with.
Actually
the
other
cities
went
along
with
Boise's
approach,
except
star
has
prefers
wider
local
roads.
So
we
do.
We
do
have
a
president
saying
you
know
this
is
something
that
makes
sense
for
Boise
just
because
we
may
not.
It
may
not
make
sense.
G
For
some
of
the
other
cities
does
not
mean
we
can't
change
it
and
apply.
I
think
it
makes
sense
that
we
have
consistent
maintenance
across
the
county,
but
in
terms
of
design
features
that
are
really
critical
to
neighborhoods
and
the
purpose
that
land
use
purposes
the
cities
there
there
can
be
some
differences
in
the
way
we
approach
design
features.
G
E
E
H
Know
what
stats
bandwidth
is
and
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
stuff
going
on
so
I,
don't
feel
comfortable,
making
recommendations
to
what
staff
should
do.
But
I
guess
my
recommendation
would
be
that
the
city
get
together
with
achd
that
the
mayor's
office
get
together,
potentially
I,
guess
with
President
Pickering
or
president
pickerina
director
Wong,
and
to
figure
out
what
a
task
force
would
look
like
with
all
the
recent
deaths
and
fatalities
and
injuries
that
we've
had
on
the
road
and
trying
to
put
together
a
formal,
Vision,
zero
task
force.
H
We
couldn't
go
any
further
and
we
need
to
be
working
with
achd
in
order
to
do
it,
so
my
recommendation
would
be
for
us
to
examine
putting
forward
a
task
force
that
consists
of
our
staff,
who
have
expertise
as
well
as
some
of
the
people
in
the
community
in
the
neighborhoods
that
commissioner
Hanson
was
talking
about
and
trying
to
figure
out
like
what
exactly
are
the
next
steps
that
we
would
like
to
move
forward
in
this
specific
effort?
That's
what
I
would
like
to
see.
D
A
To
be
in
response
to
you,
Jimmy
I
think
we're
you
know:
we've
got
staff
partnering
with
the
city
of
Meridian
and
West
End
state
by
task
force,
okay,
to
evaluate
and
work
through
the
challenges
to
reduce
all
you
know:
crashes
amongst
all
users,
really
meridian,
so
we're
already
doing
that
work
with
one
in
one.
You
know
second
largest
city.
F
So
I
I,
like
Jimmy's
suggestion
figuring
out
a
way
if
there
are
cities
in
the
county,
who'd
want
to
participate
to
you
guys,
don't
have
to
duplicate
your
efforts.
It's
probably
makes
perfect
sense
and
one
policy
question
that
I
just
like
to
put
on
the
table
because
I
don't
know
I
think
it
was
sort
of
highlighted
in
the
recent
development
applications
off
of
Vista
and
Infantry.
F
It's
long
been
your
policy
that
you
get
into
indeed
mitigation
and
comment
at
the
plot
level
and
not
at
the
as
before
that
final
plaque
comes
forward
or
the
preliminary
platform
comes
forward,
and
there
are
some
places
where
it
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
look
at
the
overall
picture
and
then
dig
into
the
details
at
the
flat
levels.
So
Azure
reviewing
your
policies.
I
I
hope
that
that's
one
that
you'll
review
figure
out.
What
are
the
thresholds?
What
are
the
places
where
it
would
be
maybe
more
important
to
have
that?
F
D
Thanks
for
saying
that,
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
hundred
times
I've
had
conversations
with
Developers
about
that
very
thing
and
have
asked
them
with
very
little
success,
actually
that
if
they
feel
like
they're
coming
up
against
a
roadblock
or
something
to
to
even
drop
my
name,
whether
when
talking
to
staff
or
if
they
really
think
the
roadblock
is
serious,
come
to
the
commission.
And
they
can
come
to
us
at
any
time.
G
C
G
Given
both
to
the
neighborhood
and
to
the
city
that
you
can't
do
this
or
you
can't
do
that
because
of
achd
policy,
and
so
certain
processes
and
decisions
remain
at
a
certain
point,
although
the
city
did
push
and
say
no
I
think
you
can
do
this,
we
do
have
some
Authority
to
insist
on
Transportation
related
conditions,
City
pushed
but
I
think
that
was
partly
because
the
neighborhoods
and
that
in
those
places
where
they
didn't
it's
just
a
whole
lot
of
work.
If
as
well,
our
policy
applies
this
way.
E
F
You
know
I
you're
right,
it's
hard
to
operationalize,
I,
think
I.
Think
if
we
get
out
of
the
specifics
and
up
into
the
actual
policy
level
to
me,
the
as
I've
observed
it
over
the
years.
The
policy
then
drives
that
behavior
that
no
no
those
decisions
are
already
made
or
they'll
be
made
later,
is
that
we
don't
have
a
process
early
on,
in
especially
big
development
applications
to
have
a
joint
meeting
to
talk
through
what
are
the
things
that
are
going
to
come
up?
What
are
the
things
that
are
being
asked
for?
F
B
A
E
B
E
B
G
There
wasn't
any
increased
Lanes
on
any
of
the
streets,
including
State
Street,
when
it
was
discussed
10
years
ago,
but
five
Lanes
came
in
because
of
what
was
perceived
as
he
crashes
on
on
13
on
mostly
Fender
banners
as
people
stopping.
But
we
didn't
really
reevaluate
that
the
we
didn't
evaluate
that.
We
also
did
two
major
things
since
then.
One
is
we
converted
Jefferson
Street,
to
two
ways,
so
it
functions
and
just
one
block
away,
and
we
also
did
Whitewater
Park,
Boulevard
and
its
function.
E
E
G
H
H
Eight
that's
going
to
set
her
precedent,
then
they're,
making
sure
that
the
downtown
and
North
End
are
connected
the
way
that
people
move
to
and
from
and-
and
it
also
means
that
they'll
probably
be
under
future
development
on
the
other
side
of
State
Street
as
well.
So
we
know
that
this
is
going
to
become
one
of
the
most
heavily
used
pedestrian
areas
in
the
downtown
area
where
people
are
living
and
then
walking
or
riding
to
where
they're
needing
to
go.
H
F
H
Absolutely
one
more
thing
that
I
would
add
and
I
think
to
commissioner
goldthrop's
Point
I
also
think
that
we're
probably
a
universal
agreement
that
we
want
to
see
things
move
forward
as
fast
as
we
possibly
can,
and
for
this
not
to
be
held
up
or
delayed.
You
know,
I
mean
if
we
can
prevent
that
from
happening.
B
Yeah
I've
got
to
step
out.
I,
actually
think
that
what
you
said
was
just
better
stated
than
what
I
was
trying
to
say,
because
we
have
a
vision
for
this
area.
There
is
going
to
be
future
development.
We
ought
to
be
talking,
but
I
do
think
that
it
is
not
and
cannot
be
just
on
the
city
to
say,
here's
the
plan
we
want
should
our
teams
have
to
work
together
on
this,
so
that
we're
doing
this
in
agreement
and
collaboration,
because,
ultimately,
we
rely
on
of
your
agency
to
help
make
it
happen.