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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Evening Session
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October 19, 2021
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Next
up
is
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
with
an
asterisk
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
council
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There
will
be
no
separate
discussion
on
these
items
unless
a
council,
member
or
citizen
still
requests,
in
which
case
the
item
will
be
removed
from
the
general
order
of
business
and
considered
in
its
normal
sequence.
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This
property
has
been
through
city
council
about
three
times
since
I've
been
on
city
council
and
maybe
a
good
thing,
because
this
round
is
going
to
be,
I
think,
some
very
valuable
housing
for
folks
who
otherwise
wouldn't
be
able
to
afford
housing
in
our
city.
So
really
happy
to
see
this
on
the
agenda
tonight.
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Ord-46-21
and
ordnance
car
21-0017
for
profit
located
at
911
north
shamrock
street
amenities,
learning
classifications,
the
city
of
boise
city
to
change
the
classification
of
real
property,
particularly
described
in
section
one
of
this
ordinance
and
adjacent
rights,
away
from
r-1a
single-family
residential
2.1
units
per
acre
to
r-1c
single-family
residential
8
units
per
acre.
Setting
forth
a
reason.
Statement
in
support
of
such
stone
change
and
provide
an
effective
date.
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Ord-45-21,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
boise
city,
idaho,
approving
the
urban
renewal
plan
for
the
state
street
district
urban
renewal
project,
which
plan
includes
revenue,
allocation
financing
provisions
authorizing
the
city
clerk
to
transmit
a
copy
of
this
ordinance
and
other
required
information
to
county
and
state
officials
and
other
taxing
entities.
Providing
several
ability.
Approving
the
summary
of
the
ordinance
and
providing
effective
date.
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Wonderful,
we
don't
expect
the
neighborhood
association,
but
do
let
us
know
if
you're
here,
the
south
island
association
and
then
we
don't
have
any
public.
That's
signed
up
in
advance,
so
ma'am
you
aren't
here,
for
this.
Are
you
okay?
So
if
anybody's
online
here
for
this,
please
raise
your
hand
so
we'll
be
sure
to
call
you
and
with
that
I'll
have
cody.
Kick
us
off.
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Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
council.
I
think
we
can
be
fairly
brief
with
this
one.
It's
a
request
for
annexation
of
about
13
and
a
half
acres
with
m2d
or
heavy
industrial
design,
review
zoning.
The
properties
addressed
at
9,
700
oops
and
affected
sorry.
The
property
is
addressed
at
9700
south
blue
cloud
lane,
as
you
can
see
here,
it's
located
in
south
boise
between
the
interstate
and
the
winco
distribution
center.
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The
intent
with
the
annexation
is
to
ultimately
develop
the
site
for
storage
and
other
industrial
uses.
Those
are
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
the
property
is
designated
in
for
industrial
uses,
on
the
land
use
map
and
is
located
in
the
airport,
influence
area
or
the
airport
planning
area.
That
does
suggest
that
industrial
uses,
including
storage,
are
appropriate
in
this
location.
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With
the
inclusion
of
the
design
review
overlay,
I
will
be
able
to
evaluate
specific
site
designs,
landscape
screening
and
things
like
that,
and
then,
if
we
were
to
see
more
intense
uses,
those
would
be
further
evaluated
through
a
conditional
conditional
use
permit
process
if
needed
so
with
that,
the
commission
did
find
the
annexation
consistent
with
the
standards
of
the
development
code
and
unanimously
recommended
approval
of
the
request
back
in
september
of
this
year.
So
with
that
we
are
recommending
you
do
the
same
and
approve
the
annexation
this
evening.
Thank
you.
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Yeah.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
member
members
of
the
council.
The
item
before
you
is
an
appeal
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission's
decision
to
deny
a
variance
to
encroach
the
rear
and
side
yard
setback
for
a
proposed
detached
accessory
structure
with
an
associated
accessory
dwelling
unit
on
.14
acres
located
at
2629
west
allis
avenue
in
an
r1ch
single-family
residential
with
historic
overlay
zone.
H
The
parcel
contains
an
existing
single-family
house
and
detached
garage.
The
proposal
is
to
remove
the
existing
garage
and
construct
a
new
1292
square
foot,
two-story
tandem
garage
with
edu.
The
variance
request
is
to
place
a
structure
three
feet
from
the
side:
property
line
and
10
feet
from
the
rear
property
line.
Within
the
5
foot
side
and
15
foot
rear
yard
setbacks.
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I
Met
a
man
crystal,
I
understand
from
the
transcript.
I
think
you
were
there,
so
you
can
confirm
this
for
me
that
there
was
a
technical
issue.
The
hearing
wasn't
transmitted
or
broadcast
to
panelists,
including
the
applicant.
We
identified
the
technical
issue
and
then
I
think
from
the
transcript
it
looks
like
you
started
your
presentation
completely
over.
So
is
it
the
case
that
I
guess
that
nothing
was
missed
or
that
the
public
had
full
access
to
to
all
of
your
presentation
in
that
meeting.
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J
This
design
was
supported
in
full
by
historic
preservation,
six
to
zero,
nina
and
all
five
adjacent
property
owners
who
are
going
to
be
most
impacted
by
this.
Additionally,
you
know
this
is
a
great
platform
to
where
boise
city
council
has
the
opportunity
to
help
either
modify
the
ruling
or
change
the
rule.
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J
We
didn't
want
to
overtake
our
yard
and
we're
looking
to
only
make
our
footprint
a
little
bit
wider
and
a
little
bit
longer
with
the
project,
and
then
this
is
also
our
opportunity
to
go
green
with
this
project
and
add
solar
to
power
everything
in
our
home.
So
the
reasons
surrounding
my
variance
request.
J
Initially,
I
have
physical
constraints
due
to
the
historic
block
configuration
as
well
as
exceptional
circumstances
that
weren't
fully
considered,
I
believe
at
the
pnc
ruling,
due
to
the
technical
issues
that
I
did
have
with
the
hearing
regarding
the
alleyway
behind
my
house
and
I'll
jump
in
each
of
those.
So
again,
this
is
just
from
1937
newspaper
article,
my
my
garage,
my
home,
and
my
lot
was
configured
in
1937
as
laid
out
in
the
idaho
statesman.
J
So
right
now,
you
know
definitely
pull
straight
into
the
driveway
into
the
garage
as
constructed,
but
it's
too
small
of
a
garage,
so
our
proposed
site
layout
again
is
here.
There's
this
highlighted
here.
I
want
to
point
out.
You
know
I'm
increasing
away
from
the
property
of
the
neighbor,
which
he's
happy
with.
I
still
have
the
elementary
school
behind
me
in
our
proposed
layout,
but
we're
maintaining
our
street
access
and
the
reason
for
the
variances
in
order
to
build
a
two-car
garage
that
we
can
avoid
a
corner
of
concern
there.
J
So
so
here's
some
existing
site
photos
again
just
to
show
the
council
there's
the
corner
concern
on
the
right.
If
we
don't
get
the
variance
we're
trying
to
avoid
that
on
the
left,
you
can
see
how
we
pull
straight
into
our
driveway,
and
we
have
this
side
entrance
to
our
house,
and
this
was
the
big
one.
The
big
selling
points
is,
we
can
get
kids
in
and
out
of
our
cars
for
safety
right
off
the
corner
of
our
house,
so
we
have
72
feet
of
driveway,
which
helps
us
do
that.
J
You
know
again
the
variance
supports
the
functional
design
of
the
lot.
This
is
our
existing
condition
here
we
just
have
too
small
a
garage
right
now
and
our
proposed
condition
here.
All
we're
looking
to
do
again
is
we're
moving
our
garage
away
from
the
property
line
from
two
feet:
two
inches
to
three
feet
and
we're
just
trying
to
keep
it,
so
we
can
still
use
our
driveway
and
not
hit
the
corner
of
the
house.
J
So
the
exceptional
circumstance
that
comes
in
that
I
don't
believe
was
fully
considered-
is
that
red
arrow
denotes
my
home
right
there
and,
as
you
can
see,
as
you
can
see,
I
have
a
playground
directly
behind
me.
There
is
times
of
congestion.
You
can
see
the
parking
lot
gets
full,
so
it's
not
a
typical
north
end,
alleyway
in
fact,
there's
children.
You
know
the
play
walk
between
the
classrooms.
J
Parents
actually
utilize
the
alley
to
idle
in
while
they
wait
to
pick
up
their
kids
during
the
weekdays
up,
sometimes
up
to
45
minutes,
because
they're
waiting
in
line
and
nowadays
schools
want
to
make
sure
the
right
kid
gets
in
the
right
car
of
the
parent
teachers
walk
there
there's
also
a
church
there
too.
So
what
I'm
looking
to
do
is
just
avoid
an
unnecessary
issue,
which
is
why
I'm
appealing
this,
so
I
don't
have
to
build
an
alley
loading
garage
that
would
unneces
have
to
unload
in
the
alley.
J
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I
J
J
So
I
again,
I
make
all
three
sections
of
variance
code
for
not
being
materially
detrimental
to
public
health
safety.
Well
for
the
property
improvements
again,
you
know-
I
know
city
council
deals
with
you
know
always
looking
to
build
support
collaboration.
Everything
like
that.
I
was
very
important
to
my
wife
and
I
to
talk
directly
with
all
of
our
neighbors,
including
the
school
and
church
directly
behind
us
to
make
sure
we
provide
what's
the
most
safe
for
the
neighborhood.
J
You
know,
and
so
I
got
five
letters
of
support
the
school
and
the
church
was
one
combined
letter
in
order
to
really
for
these,
variances
is
really
the
most
localized
common
sense
solution
there
is
to
my
lot
is:
is
maintaining
this
configuration
and
not
taking
access
off
the
alley,
which
is
what
the
denial
of
the
pnc
ruling
the
impact
of
that
so
kind
of?
In
closing,
and
I
open
up
for
any
questions
you
might
have,
I
do
not
have
a
typical
north
end
alley
granting
of
these
variances.
J
They
they
not
only
meet
guidelines
for
the
variants,
boise
city
code
guidelines,
but
they'll
help
avoid
a
creation
of
a
safety
issue
that
the
school
doesn't
want.
The
church
doesn't
want,
my
neighbors,
don't
want
you
know
again,
I'm
working
within
my
historic
lot
configuration
this
project,
causes
zero
harm
to
anyone,
and
you
know
that's
why
it
was
unanimous
unanimously,
supported
by
historic
preservation,
nina
and
all
five
neighbors
who
directly
would
be
impacted
by
my
project.
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J
So
so,
council,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
have
me
address
this.
So
on
the
physical
constraints
of
the
property,
I
need
to
have
the
garage
in
its
current
location
in
order
to
pull
in
and
out
without
hitting
the
corner
of
my
home
and
sit
and
and
the
report
for
planning
and
so
on
and
said.
Well,
why
don't
you
just
reconfigure
it
or
why?
Don't
you
move
it
over
anything
like
that?
J
Well,
if
I
do
that,
it
still
brings
that
corner
to
the
home
and
the
play
from
the
front
from
the
rear.
I
don't
have
a
report
in
front
of
me,
so
I'm
paraphrasing,
but
I
believe
it
says
that
city
council
did
not
excuse
me
plain,
and
zoning
did
not
consider
the
alley
impacts
as
part
of
their
ruling
on
this,
and
that's
what
was
important
to
me
to
bring
back
up
is
the
safety
concerns
of
that
section
of
their
response.
As
I
reviewed
the
written
report
preparing
for
this
appeal.
I
Thank
you,
madam
mayor.
One
follow-up.
Maybe
I
didn't
ask
my
question
very
well.
What
I
was
hoping
to
get
at
is
your
explanation
for
why
it
would
be
if
there
is
one,
if
you
have
one
for
why
it
would
be
a
hardship
for
you
to
take
access
from
the
alley.
I
understand
that
you
have
concerns
about
congestion
and
school
children
and
that
it
may
cause
a
public
safety
issue,
but
for
you,
why
would
it
be
a
hardship
to
take
access
from
the
alley
rather
than
your
current
existing
driveway.
J
Thank
you
for
the
clarification.
The
the
main
hardship
for
us
would
be
this
city
planning.
Zoning
would
want
us
to
number
one
abandon
72
feet
of
paved
concrete
driveway,
which
would
be
a
significant
cost
and
and
really
the
reason
why
I
purchased
a
home
in
the
in
the
north
end
in
2012,
for
my
family,
because
we
can
load
our
family
right
off
the
side
of
that.
J
So
that
would
be
the
the
financial
hardship
and
then
you
know,
and
just
really
the
second
hardship
would
be
you
know,
I'd
have
to
bring
my
kids
now.
I
have
a
perfect
situation
where
I
bring
my
kids
right
into
the
driveway,
and
I'd
have
to
come
all
the
way
back
to
the
garage
in
the
alleyway.
In
order
to
load
kids,
we
got
three
three
kids
under
the
age
of
three
three
and
under
so
that's
that's
the
biggest
hardships.
I
I
J
I
So
then,
my
question
is:
why
would
it
be
a
hardship
for
you
to
continue
parking
where
you
currently
park,
but
put
your
new
garage,
in
conformance
with
the
setbacks?
In
other
words,
denying
you
this
appeal
would
not
take
anything
away
from
you
because
you
could
still
park
where
you
currently
park
just
by
moving
the
garage
over
is
it
is.
It
is
the
idea
that
building
a
new
garage
and
not
being
able
to
park
in
it
is
a
hardship
or
yeah.
Where
is
the
hardship
from
continuing
to
use
your
property?
The
way
you
do
now.
J
Well,
our
our
wishes
is
to
have
a
fully
functional
garage
that
we
can
pull
into
and
and
pull
out
of
in
addition
to
having
our
adu,
you
know
so
that
that's
really
kind
of
what
we're
looking
to
do.
So,
if
I
had
to
pull,
I
guess
into
the
garage
from
the
reverse
direction,
you
know
and
walk
our
kids.
That
way,
the
main
the
main
concern
I
have
is,
I
do
not
want
to
back
into
the
alley.
I
do
not
want
to
hit
anybody,
and
so
it's
it's
just
you
know
it.
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At
that
point
I
was
just
an
observer
following
along
in
the
meeting,
and
I
didn't
see
that
there
was
any
issue
with
that.
Our
the
nina
historic
committee
had
spoken
in
approval
of
the
project
when
it
came
up
for
planning
and
zoning,
I'm
defining
and
zoning
chair
for
nina
the
project
was
once
again
presented
to
us
and
this
time
I
got
to
dive
deep
into
it,
and
I
didn't
have
any
issue
with
the
project.
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As
I've
been
attending
meetings.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
other
projects.
Come
up
that
request,
side,
yard
setbacks
or
rear
yard
setbacks,
and,
and
it
seems
that
there
are
some
projects
that
do
get
approved
for
the
with
the
various
setbacks
that,
for
various
reasons,
every
project
is
unique,
every
project
is
different.
A
E
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
hi?
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
on
behalf
of
my
neighbor,
mike
I've
actually
gone
before
the
board
23
years
ago
and
on
a
similar
house
issue,
not
a
setback,
but
something
else,
and
it's
difficult
because
you're
against
a
lot
of
very
educated
people.
He
really
educated
himself
on
this
issue.
He
asked
all
of
his
neighbors.
Every
single
one
of
them
is
in
support
of
him.
E
E
M
Hi,
this
is
dana.
I
am
a
neighbor
of
mike's
and
I've
known
mike
for
many
years,
and
this
is
just
it's
it's
mike
all
the
way
I
mean
he's
thorough,
he's
careful,
he's
considerate
he's
a
great
neighbor,
and
I
agree
that
you
know
he
is
giving
more.
You
know
he's
taking
the
variance
from
two
and
a
half
to
three
feet.
The
having
you
know
living
in
the
north
end.
M
A
J
Thank
you
again,
council
members,
madam
mayor
for
for
hearing
my
testimony
tonight
I
have,
as
you
can
hear,
I
have
great
support
in
the
neighborhood
great
neighbors,
and
you
know
I
I
wouldn't
brought
this
appeal
forward.
If
I
didn't
think
it
was,
it
was
not
only
common
sense,
but
it
was.
It
was
also
you
know
within
everybody's
interest.
So
you
know
again,
you
know
if
there's
any
anything
further,
I
could
take
a
question
but
I'll
yield
back.
A
K
The
amount
of
folks
use
there
I'm
curious
if
we,
if
it's
common
for
us,
to
grant
a
hardship
in
other
situations
where
somebody
may
have
a
high
traffic
neighbor.
Maybe
it's
an
elementary
school,
that's
close
by
like
on
13th
street,
or
maybe
it's
a
university
who
has
you
know
large
football
games
and
people
coming
up?
Is
it
common
for
us
to
grant
a
hardship
to
somebody
because
of
a
high
traffic
neighbor?
Does
that
make
sense.
H
Madam
mayor
councilmember,
holly
burton
that
does
make
sense,
and
I
could
I
couldn't
say
if
it's
common,
but
I
think
that
that
we
could
definitely
look
to
see
if
that's
a
special
circumstance,
something
like
that
could
be
considered
as
such,
but
the
frequency
in
which
we
do.
I
I
couldn't
speak
to
you.
K
And
maybe
just
a
quick
follow-up-
and
this
is
asking
you
to
like
to
know
things
that
you
possibly
can't
possibly
know
but
like
do
we
do.
We
have
those
existing
along
like
13th
street,
with
some
of
the
houses
that
maybe
are
bordering
with
a
school
in
their
backyard.
I
mean
I'm
trying
to
think
of
it
if
there's
a
circumstance
with
one
of
our
elementary
schools
or
junior
highs,
where
we
run
into
that
with
a
with
a
back
alley
or
a
side,
and
I
guess
to
my
knowledge,
I
can't
think
of
anywhere.
C
C
However,
you
know
absent
any
knowledge
on
that.
I
can't
really
make
a
ruling
on
it,
and
so
I
guess
not
seeing
any
other
other
comments,
I
will
move
that
we
deny
the
appeal
and
uphold
the
decision
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
on
cba
2131
for
michael
maraglio
at
2629
west
ellis,
on
a
variance
to
encroach
on
rear
and
side
setbacks
for
the
attached
accessory
structure
and
garage.
K
A
We
have
a
motion
a
second
and
before
conversation.
I
just
wonder
if
the
council
president
could
answer
a
question
for
me
because
I
might
have
missed
it
when
I
stepped
out
you
reference
the
sewer
line.
You
don't
have
information
on
that.
So
if
that
information
was
provided
in
the
future,
would
that
be
considered
new
information?
It
could.
A
Okay,
that's
that's
what
I
wanted
to
clarify,
and
so
just
so
that
the
applicant
understands.
I
was
asking
about
another
step
in
this
that
can
be
used
in
this
process.
Whether
or
not
the
information
that
the
council
president
said
she
wished
she
had
to
make.
A
decision
could
be
provided
in
the
future
as
technically
new
information,
with
the
request
for
reconsideration.
A
E
I
Can
also,
I
think,
acknowledge
that
nobody
opposes
this,
even
though
everybody's
been
asked,
the
relatively
modest
variance
that
the
applicant
is
asking
for
number
one
will
save
him
a
lot
of
money
in
concrete
removal.
Number
two
will
make
the
flow
of
people
through
that
neighborhood,
safer
and
better
and
number
three
will
give
him
the
highest
and
best
use
of
his
property
in
a
way
that
really,
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
doesn't
actually
impact
anyone
else.
It's
not
like.
I
I
K
I
mean
there's
not
too
many
things
that
I
can
add
to
what
council
member
of
agent
just
thoroughly
lined
out
and
I'm
completely
agree
in
complete
agreements,
and
I
seconded
the
motion
because
I
couldn't
find
an
error.
I
also
don't
know
that
I
could
find,
even
though
kind
of
trying
to
be
creative
what
we
would
have
called
hardship
in
that
specific
case,
but
sitting
here.
I
can
also
reflect
on
times
where
we
have
approved
variances
on
setbacks,
specifically
when
it's
adding
housing
that
we
need,
and
so
I
do
think
that
there
is.
K
You
know
the
potential
third
way
of
finding
a
way
to
to
address
this,
to
get
it
done.
There
is
the
support
he
went
through
a
lot
of
extra
effort
and
that's
really
appreciated,
and
it's
wonderful
that
it's
that
support
is
unanimous,
but
I
just
didn't
see
any
way
through
based
off
our
code
and
the
decision
that
we
were
able
to
make
today.
I
do
think
that
there's
probably
room
for
us
to
explore
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
to
do
that.
N
We
have
to
find
fault
in
the
planning
and
zoning
commission's
decision,
and
I
just
have
not
been
able
to
do
that.
I
think
that
they
did
consider
everything
and
they
came
to
the
decision
that
they
did,
but,
like
council
member
of
agent,
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
a
day
when
maybe
we
have
more
tools
in
our
toolbox
too,
to
address
these
really
unique
situations
and
on
lots
that
have
different
dimensions
and
different
restraints
or
restrictions
than
others.
N
C
And
mayor
clearly
I'll
be
supporting
my
own
motion.
I
just
add
to
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
the
issue
of
that.
I
brought
up
actually
at
the
beginning
of
the
hearing,
which
is
that
we
imposed
zoning
code
on
existing
built
environment
in
the
city
and
didn't
really
take
much
into
account
in
terms
of
the
different
conditions
that
existed
in
that
historic
built
environment
versus
the
newly
built
environment
in
the
1960s.
C
D
What
am
I
yeah?
Thank
you.
I
will
be
reluctantly
supporting
the
motion
not
because
there's
anything
wrong
with
it,
but
just
because
it's
difficult
at
times
when
we
see
common
sense
not
be
supported
by
policy
that
we
have
in
place,
and
so
I
too
look
forward
to
the
day
when
we
have
an
improved
zoning
system,
and
I
thank
all
those
folks
who
are
participating
over
the
next
well
now.
A
Well,
I
won't
be
voting,
but
I
just
want
to
say
two
things.
First,
I'm
going
to
ask
crystal
given
what
it
looks
like
the
outcome
will
be.
If
you
would
please
work
with
the
applicant
to
explain
the
process
that
we've
referred
to
tonight,
and
so
mr
moralio
crystal
or
someone
from
our
staff,
I'm
can
connect
with
you
on
that
and
then.
A
Finally,
I
live
right
next
door
to
a
schoolyard,
and
I
am
so
grateful
that
I
have
a
fence
between
my
driveway
and
the
schoolyard,
because
it
is
really
difficult
to
get
in
and
feel
safe
doing.
So
I
can't
imagine
having
the
parking
lot
alley
configured
the
way
this
applicant
and
his
neighbors
do
in
terms
of
access,
because
mine
is
people,
think
it's
the
alley,
but
it's
just
a
driveway
up
a
long
long.
Fellow
schoolyard
it's
hard
to
get
in.
A
We
do
we're
incredibly
worried
about
kids
when
we're
moving
when
we're
turning
in
and
trying
to
back
out
of
a
very
narrow
space
and
part
of
the
reason
I
believe
we
didn't
build.
Our
house
that
it's
configured
as
it
was
is
because
of
some
setback,
issues
that
would
have
provided
a
much
safer
environment
for
the
setup
of
our
yard
right
next
to
the
school.
A
Had
it
been
able
to
be
addressed
so,
sir,
I
totally
understand
what
it
is
you're
trying
to
work
through
and
hope
that
we're
able
to
come
up
with
a
solution
for
ease
of
mind
for
you
and
your
family,
but
also
for
the
neighbors
that
you're
so
blessed
to
have.
I
think,
behind
you
when
you
get
to
hear
kids
playing
in
the
schoolyard
so
often
so
with
that
we'll
ask
the
clerk
to
take
the
role.