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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Evening Session
Description
February 1, 2022
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A
You
before
we
go
into
the
agenda,
I'm
going
to
take
a
moment
of
personal
privilege,
because
today
is
the
start
of
the
lunar
new
year.
It's
the
what
many
of
us
call
the
chinese
new
year,
but
it
truly
is
the
lunar
new
year,
recognized
by
asian
americans
in
our
country
and,
of
course,
asians
from
throughout
asia
and.
C
A
I
had
the
pleasure
of
spending
time
in
china
through
a
state
department
organization
called
the
american
council
of
young
political
leaders,
as
did
lucy
willits,
and
she
spent
time
in
both
china
and
taiwan
and
then,
together,
the
two
of
us
hosted
a
delegation
from
taiwan,
the
first
ever
acypl
delegation
to
visit
this
state
a
couple
years
ago,
and
it
was
really
an
honor
to
share
our
community
and
with
those
visitors
and
with
that,
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
read
this
proclamation.
We
have
a
framed
one
to
present
to
you.
A
If
folks
want
to
take
a
picture
with
the
council,
we
can
do
that.
Some
of
our
council
is
online,
of
course,
because
of
covid,
and
then
of
course,
wish
you
each
a
happy,
healthy
and
prosperous
new
year.
A
And
whereas,
as
the
year
of
the
tiger
begins,
we
wish
good
fortune
health
prosperity
and
happiness
to
all
who
celebrate.
Now.
Therefore,
I
lauren
mclean
mayor
of
boise
do
hereby
proclaim
february
1st
2022
as
the
lunar
new
year
in
the
city
of
boise,
and
we
encourage
our
citizens
to
join
with
their
communities
to
celebrate
and
participate
in
new
year
activities
and
traditions.
A
F
G
A
Well,
thank
you
all
for
coming.
I
think
it's
very
auspicious
that
this
coming
year
is
the
year
of
the
tiger.
We
will
all
need
courage
and
bravery
to
address
the
pressing
of
needs
and
important
issues
of
our
community
in
this
rather
tough
time
that
we're
all
going
through.
So
it's
super
wonderful
to
have
you
all
here
appreciate
the
opportunity,
and
we
wish
each
of
you
a
happy
new
year
and
thank
you
and
for
sharing
your
tradition
and
celebration
with
us
in
our
community
take
care.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
J
Here,
oh
madam
mayor,
yes,
I
moved
that
we
approved
the
minutes
from
the
strategic
planning
and
day
meeting
of
january
25th.
H
B
I
K
Madam
mayor,
no
objection
just
really
happy
that
council
member
beijing
has
agreed
to
join
us.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
for
your
service,
appreciate
it,
and
next
up
we
have
an
update
on
the
boise
art
museum,
lease
holy
shire,
great
you're
here
in
person.
I
just
want
to
we'll
all
let
you
make
the
I'm
not
going
to
steal
your
thunder
I'll,
say
something
at
the
end.
A
F
L
L
Additionally,
staff
is
meeting
with
bam
on
march
9th
to
begin
negotiations
for
the
long
term
lease
to
begin
sometime
in
july,
a
couple
of
key
pieces
about
this
short-term
lease.
The
lease
states
that,
on
or
before
its
expiration,
either
a
new
long-term
lease
has
been
executed
or
one
or
both
parties
have
requested.
An
extension
from
city
council
incorporated
into
the
language
is
that
the
city
retains
the
rights
under
the
1996
agreement,
which
may
include
the
termination
of
bam's
right
to
use
the
building.
L
It
requires
bam
to
take
over
the
utilities
by
march
1st,
and
then
it
provides
a
pretty
a
clearer
delineation
of
the
maintenance
obligations
between
the
city
and
bam.
The
lease
the
lease
outlines.
The
ban
will
not
be
charged
rent
during
the
course
of
this
particular
lease,
but
it
does
require
the
city
to
continue
to
pay
for
the
fte.
That
is,
the
maintenance
fte
in
the
short
term,
but
intense
staff
intends
to
renegotiate
this
piece
as
part
of
the
long-term
agreement.
L
I
Mayor,
I
just
want
to
commend
the
hard
work
of
chloe
and
others
on
getting
the
short-term
lease
executed.
I
read
through
it.
It
looks
like
it
achieves
what
we
needed
to
achieve,
which
is
to
delineate
clearly
who
is
responsible
for
what
and
limit
our
liability.
Should
you
know
anything
happen?
It
just
makes
it
clear
so
that
we
know
who's
liable
in
what
situations.
I
I
really
appreciate
that
I
think
it
really
protects
us
protects
spam
and
that's
what
we
were
hoping
to
achieve.
I
look
forward
to
helping
you
out
in
any
way
that
I
can
to
work
toward
that
long-term
lease
over
the
next
several
months.
So
I'm
here
for
you,
let's
get
it
done.
Thank.
A
K
K
And
it
wouldn't
have
happened
without
that.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
bam.
I
think
that
you
know
their
willingness
to
move
into
this
short-term
lease,
while
we
negotiate
the
long-term
lease
or
their
at
least
their
recognition,
that
this
is
beneficial
to
all
of
us,
as
was
a
big
move
on
their
part.
So
thank
you
to
them.
A
All
right,
I
will
just
want
to
say
thank
you
chloe
and
thank
you
to
bam
as
well.
We
appreciated
the
engagement
of
the
board
that
came
to
the
last
meeting,
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you
did
to
nail
down
this
short-term
lease
so
that
we
can
get
to
a
long
term
lease
that's
in
alignment
with
the
council
policies
and
create
certainty
as
well
for
the
art
museum
moving
forward,
but
you've
done
something
that
so
many
people
before
you
and
weren't
successful
at
doing
so.
A
Congratulations
and
kudos
for
that
and
if
council
president
pro
tem
will
be
the
council
member
and
that
is
working
with
you
and
so
while
she
offered
I,
I
appreciate
your
offer
of
being
that
designee
as
the
lease
is
hammered
out
to
ensure
that
it's
in
as
close
alignment
as
possible
with
the
policy
that
was
created.
So
thank
you
very
much.
L
Thank
you,
mayor
and
council,
and
I
was
actually
going
to
end
with
thank
you
to
you
all
for
your
direction
and
support
both
as
we
have
worked
on
this
negotiation,
but
in
general,
on
the
non-profit
lease
policy
over
the
past
year.
So
thank
you
for
your
guidance
and
support
I'll
see
you
soon.
A
See
and
just
some
operation
stuff,
council
president,
when
and
your
last
comments,
we
got
them
they're
fine,
we
don't
need
them
repeated,
but
you
did
blip
out
for
a
little
bit,
so
I
think
you're
in
one
of
those
many
yellow
zones
from
the
broadband
map
that
we
saw.
I
might
ask
you
at
some
point
if
it
happens
again
or
ask
the
clerk
just
to
let
you
know
via
message
and
we
might
need
to
just
try
turning
off
your
camera
or
something
but
we'll
let
you
know.
A
Okay,
next
up
is
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
with
an
asterisk
are
considered
to
be
routine
by
the
council
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
motion.
There'll
be
no
separate
discussion
on
these
items
unless
a
council,
member
or
citizen
so
requests,
in
which
case
the
item
will
be
removed
from
the
general
order
of
business
and
considered
in
its
normal
sequence.
J
K
Just
just
a
quick
comment:
if
I
could
resolution
7222,
is
the
budget
and
amendments
to
the
ems
jpa
joint
powers
agreement,
as
you
all
know,
I'm
the
chair
of
that
board.
We
have
not
reported
to
the
council
for
some
time
and
we
talked
at
our
last
meeting
of
coming
to
a
work
session
soon
with
a
report,
but
just
reminder
to
anyone.
If
you
have
questions
either
myself
or
the
pl,
the
fire
chief
can
likely
answer
those.
Thank
you.
K
A
J
Madam
mayor,
I
too
wanted
to
call
attention
to
a
resolution
without
pulling
it
off
the
consent
agenda.
Resolution.
7722
is
really
in
many
ways:
the
kickoff
to
the
water
renewal
work
that
we'll
be
doing.
It
includes
not
an
expenditure
but
an
authorization
to
begin
expending
money
for
the
water
renewal
work
and
that's
the
product
of
a
lot
of
hard
work
by
director
burgos
division
manager,
falconer.
J
The
person
who
I
now
refer
to
as
chair
gravatt,
who
I
see
out
here,
the
art,
faithful,
chair
of
the
public
works
commission
and
then
the
well
over
80
percent
of
people
in
the
city
of
boise,
who
voted
to
support
this
and
to
move
forward
with
the
next
generation
of
of
water
renewal
here.
So
I
wanted
to
note
that
that
work
that
we
were
directed
by
the
voters
to
do
is
going
forward
and
that
our
hard-working
staff
is
already
on
it.
As
of
february
1st,.
B
A
I
B
For
property
located
at
3047,
southbound
way
emitting
zoning
classifications
of
the
city
of
boise
city
to
change
the
classification
of
real
property,
particularly
described
in
section
one
of
this
ordinance
from
c-1d
neighborhood
commercial,
with
design
review
overlay
to
pcda
pedestrian
commercial,
with
design
review
and
development
agreement.
Setting
for
the
reason
statement
in
support
of
such
zone
change
and
providing
an
effective
date.
A
M
M
As
outlined
in
the
reconsideration
request
and
shown
here
in
red.
An
existing
gas
line
runs
through
the
alley
on
the
property.
It
comes
in
close
proximity
to
the
proposed
structure
which
the
applicant
contends
as
a
hardship.
Utility
lines
are
run
through
alleys
throughout
the
north
end
and
are
ubiquitous
within
residential
districts
and
the
city
at
large.
As
such,
the
planning
team
does
not
find
the
presence
of
utility
lines
to
be
a
hardship
as
allowed
through
the
variant's
approval
criteria,
as
nearly
all
property
owners
may
be,
may
be
presented
with
a
similar
situation.
M
J
Madam
mayor,
yes
just
I
want
to
make
sure
I
have
this
framed
correctly.
We
heard
this.
We
directed
the
applicant
to
come
back
with
some
more
information.
Then
we
had
a
reconsideration
request
where
we
granted
reconsideration.
We
granted
something.
I
remember
that
on
the
agenda
and
now
we're
here-
and
I
guess
my
question
is-
is
the
motion
that
you
need
a
motion
to
hear
this
some
more
in
the
future?
Is
it
a
motion
on
the
merits
of
the
request
tonight.
J
A
Yeah
crystal:
could
you
just
review
process
because
I
we
saw
this,
it
was
denied.
We,
the
council,
suggested
things
that
could
be
taken
into
consideration.
A
M
That's
why
I'm
confused
yeah?
So,
madam
mayors,
after
the
original,
uphold
a
portal
of
the
commission's
denial,
the
applicant
did
submit
the
request
for
reconsideration,
which
was
then
put
on
an
agenda.
You
have
to
approve
the
request
and
now
we're
hearing.
Oh.
A
M
J
M
So
madame
mayor
excuse
me,
council,
member
of
agent.
The
information
was
included
in
the
packet
and,
as
I
went
through
it,
we
found
that
it
didn't
still
meet
the
variance
approval
criteria
or
appeal.
That's
the
opinion
of
the
planning
team.
J
Okay,
so
might
make
a
quick
follow-up,
so
what
we
have
in
front
of
we've
granted
the
request
for
reconsideration
you've
submitted
the
memo,
the
packet
material.
Your
recommendation
is
that
we
now
hearing
the
reconsideration.
Your
recommendation
is
that
we
deny
it
and
that
we
take
that
final
vote
tonight.
A
A
Yeah,
and
so
this
motion
is
a
preview
of
it's,
we
just
had
the
staff
report
and
I'm
just
hearing
I'm
getting
nods
back
here.
N
For
the
record,
james
smith,
deputy
city
attorney,
the
reconsideration
request
was
granted
right,
which,
which
meant
just
that
council,
would
hear
the
appeal
again.
So
it
is
now
an
open
question
back
to
the
council
whether
to
uphold
the
appeal
and
reverse
planning
zoning
commission's
denial
or
deny
the
appeal
and
affirm
the
denial.
A
But
but
before
you
can
make
a
motion
you
have
to
hear
from
the
applicant,
we
have
to
hear
from
the
public
and
then
so
as
part
of
the
staff
report.
This
was
their
recommended
motion,
but
emotion
is
not
we're
not
ready
for
motion
yet
perfect.
J
A
Right
and
the
applicant
is
there
and
I
feel
like
if
it
could
the
hand
would
be
bouncing
up
and
down
on
the
on
the
zoom
or
team
screen
at
this
point.
So
yes,
we
know
that
we
we
know
that
we
will
hear
from
you
so
any
other
questions.
A
O
Okay,
good
good
evening,
can
everybody
see
the
screen
yes
good
evening.
O
My
name
is
mike
moraleo
and
I
am
the
homeowner
2629
west
ellis
avenue,
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
appeal
the
decision
made
and
provide
the
new
information
requested
at
the
october
19th
city
council
hearing
so
just
want
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
the
project
and
why
the
variance
was
requested
in
the
first
place,
present
the
new
information
requested
by
city
council
and
how
that
would
impact
my
project
discuss
a
recent
variance
granted
for
a
similar
project
and
just
kind
of
finally
make
my
case
for
why.
O
I
believe
boise
city
code
allows
city
council
to
grant
a
variance
for
this
hardship.
G
O
We're
looking
to
replace
our
existing
garage
with
the
new
garage
adu,
looking
to
maintain
the
historic
look
function
working
within
our
lot
and
all
we're
trying
to
do
is
take
the
existing
garage,
make
it
slightly
longer
and
slightly
wider,
and
this
our
opportunity
go
green
with
solar
panels,
so
the
original
variance
was
requested
because
we
do
have
physical,
lock
constraints
from
a
historical
lock
configuration,
which
is
why
we
chose
the
configuration
and
need
the
variances.
We
also
have
exceptional
circumstances.
O
As
directly
behind
our
home.
We
have
an
alleyway,
that's
over
congested
with
school
children
during
the
day
from
the
elementary
school
playground,
as
well
as
church
goers,
who
use
the
grounds
as
a
parking
lot
again.
This
is
our
current
configuration.
You
can
see
right
now,
our
garage
in
order
to
make
it
work.
It's
two
feet,
two
inches
away
from
the
side
property
line,
so
you
just
pull
straight
in
off
ellis
avenue.
We
have
the
elementary
school
right
behind
us
there.
O
O
This
is
the
existing
site.
Photos
again
bought
the
house
10
years
ago
now,
because
the
alley,
or
because
of
the
front
loading
driveway,
as
highlighted
there
as
well,
we
have
a
side
entrance
which
makes
easy
to
unload
and
load.
Children
got
three
kids
three
and
under,
and
we
have
this
corner
concern
in
the
right
photo
that
only
comes
into
play.
If
the
variance
is
not
granted
the
exceptional
circumstance
again,
we
have
an
element
elementary
school
playground
directly
behind
our
house.
All
we're
trying
to
do
in
this
situation
here
is
just
avoid
the
alley
access.
O
I
don't
want
it.
You
know
it
should
be
something
very
unnecessary.
If
we,
if
we
have
to
take
alley
access,
then
we
present
unnecessary
safety
issues
that
is
not
wanted
by
us
or
the
school.
O
So
new
information,
the
council
on
october
19th,
requested
locations
of
utility
lines
and
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
sewer
line
here,
highlighted
in
green
and
some
of
the
mature
trees
on
the
back
of
the
property.
O
Looking
at
the
other
half
of
the
yard.
Now
you
can
see
the
existing
garage
on
your
far
left
the
edge
of
the
proposed
garage
there
in
the
purple
line,
and
then
the
yellow
line
is
the
spray
paint
and
gas
line.
When
I
had
the
utility
locate
come
out
and
at
its
closest,
there
were
from
our
proposed
from
our
proposed
edge
of
our
garage
adu,
we're
still
three
feet:
3.6
feet
away
from
the
gas
lines
for
safe
distance.
In
order
to
install
this
without
having
to
move
any
utilities.
O
This
is
the
proposed
site
layout
again
just
showing
an
overview
with
the
existing
gas
line.
The
existing
sewer
line
so
again,
the
variances
that
we're
seeking
are
just
to
maintain
our
proposed
configuration.
So
we
can
use
our
work
within
our
historic,
lock
configuration
avoid
the
alleyway
and
not
have
to
relocate
any
utilities
or
lose
any
of
our
mature
trees.
O
O
So
what
does
that
cost
us
or
what's
the
hardship
here?
So
I
in
looking
at
these
scenarios,
you
know
I
went
back
and
I
got
quotes
from
the
city
of
boise
cost
for
from
the
utility
company
and
sewer
companies
and
cost
removed,
mature
vegetation
and
all
in
we're,
potentially
looking
at
up
to
20
000
to
relocate
utilities,
and
so
this
would
be
an
unnecessary
financial
burden
on
our
family.
O
So
if
we
maintain
the
proposed
site
layout
again,
as
shown
here,
we
don't
have
to
move
anything.
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
bring
up
here
tonight
was
planning
in
zoning.
It's
most
recent
hearing
january
10th,
a
variance
was
branded
for
a
reduced
rear
setback
for
a
two-car
garage
due
to
a
pull,
and
so
in
the
staff
report
presenting
by
planning
and
zoning.
They
said
that
utilities
utility
work
does
not
constitute
a
hardship,
but
you
know
again,
you
know
it
looks
like
a
pool
does
constitute
a
hardship.
O
So
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
consider
tonight
when
city
council
was
reviewing
this
is
you
know?
Why
would
a
pool
count
as
a
hardship,
but
not
historic,
lock
configuration
something
that
that
seems
to
me
that
matter
or
congested
alleyway
that
creates
safety
issues
or
major
utilities
work?
Why
would
those
not
constitute
it,
but
a
pool
constitutes
a
a
hardship
for
a
variance
so
kind
of.
In
closing
again,
I
just
want
to
present
the
new
information
the
council
requested
in
october.
O
We
can
avoid
easily
avoid
relocation
of
utilities,
loss
of
our
mature
trees
or
kind
of
the
unnecessary
financial
cost
to
our
family,
to
to
reroute
everything
when
it's
not
needed,
which
could
cost
up
to
twenty
thousand
dollars
again,
the
variance
looking
at
code,
you
know
we're
all
we're
trying
to
do
for
a
variance
is
work
within
the
constraints
of
our
historical
lock
configuration
which
will
allow
us
not
to
damage
our
vehicles
or
our
home
avoid
an
alley
loading
garage
which
so
we
can
preserve
the
existing
safe
conditions,
and
you
know
looking
to
counsel
just
to
help.
O
You
know
with
kind
of
demonstrate
consistency
you
know,
for
what
is
a
hardship.
What
is
not
a
hardship,
you
know
as
a
if
a
pool
is
a
hardship.
How
is
that?
Why
would
that
be
weighted
more
heavily
than
hardships
that
other
neighbors
experience
from
from
you
know
different
things
from
utilities
things
like
that.
O
So,
finally,
again
you
know
as
brought
up
beforehand.
We
get
this
project.
The
variance
was
unanimously
supported
by
historic
preservation,
st
mary's
elementary
school,
who
this
directly
impacts,
nina
and
all
adjacent
neighbors,
two
neighbors
across
the
street,
two
neighbors
on
the
side
and
and.
O
Above
and
beyond-
and
you
know,
talk
to
each
neighbor-
well,
not
not
going
above
and
beyond
there,
but
you
know
my
neighbors
went
above
and
beyond
and
actually
voiced
and
gave
me
letters
of
signed
letters
of
support
for
my
project
because
they
don't
want
to
see
the
negative
impacts
to
the
neighborhood.
You
know
that
would
be
caused
by
having
to
relocate
everything
on
my
property.
Q
Vladimir,
I
do
have
a
question
mike
thanks,
so
much
for
for
taking
the
time
to
come
back
and
all
the
effort
that
you're
putting
into
this.
I
know
I
know
it's.
It's
been
a
lot
of
work
on
your
part,
so
my
interpretation
of
what
you're
saying
is
that
the
utility
lines
that
are
running
through
your
backyard
represent
a
hardship
with
the
cost
that
it
would
take
to
move
those
and
to
be
able
to
put
this
in.
Q
So
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
these
utility
lines
are
relatively
common
on
just
about
every
single
piece
of
property
and
it
wouldn't
be
abnormal
for
somebody
to
have
to
move
a
gas
or
utility
line
if
they
were
going
to
do
some
type
of
construction.
O
I
I
think
I
I
think
I
understand
what
you're
saying
so
you
know
what
I
would
ask
the
council
to
look
at
is
that
you
know
this
is
just
and
just
an
unnecessary
reconfiguring
of
my
entire
yard
and
to
give
me
something
that
would
not
work
for
my
home,
my
family
or
my
neighborhood,
and
so
I
understand
that
there's
utilities
on
other
properties
and
and
they
need
reconfigured,
but
when
I
looked
into
the
cost
of
these
utilities
and
what
I
would
have
to
do
in
order
to
get
a
usable
access
to
to
an
adu
garage,
it's
significant
and-
and
I
don't
bring
that
up
to
say
that
you
know
this
thought.
O
That's
not
only
unique
to
your
your
point,
but
when
you're
looking
at
it
against
other
circumstances
and
other
projects
in
the
north
end-
and
you
know,
and
and
it
would
be
significant
to
the
owner-
that
that
was
just
recently
approved
with
the
pool
they
would
have
a
significant
cost
too.
So
all
I'm
asking
the
council
to
consider
is
all
the
challenges
or
things
that
would
be
added
cost.
That
would
be
added
to
my
project.
O
Just
for
helping
us
allowing
us
this
variance
in
order
to
put
the
garage
where
it
should
be
to
fit
within
the
historical
context
of
the
home,
the
property
and
the
neighborhood.
Q
Thank
you
mike.
I
appreciate
that
madame
mayor,
I
do
have
some
questions
for
staff,
but
if
people
have
questions
for
mike,
I'm
happy
to
yield
some
time,
so
we
can
go
directly
to
mike.
J
Madame
mr
moraggio
good
evening,
I
I
seem
to
recall
from
the
october
hearing
that
there
were
other
hardships,
you'd
flag
then
as
well,
and
I
don't
remember
what
they
were,
but
there
was
something
about
the
driveway.
J
O
Yeah,
so
I
appreciate
it
so
this
project
has
gone
on
since
my
first
application
last
april.
You
know
so
this
has
gone
on
for
a
while,
and
I
bought
my
home
10
years
ago
because
I
have
a
72
foot
driveway
that
allows
me
off
street
parking.
O
So
in
my
attempt
to
work
back
and
forth
with
planning
and
zoning,
what
they
first
recommended
was
me
remove
my
driveway,
which
be
a
hardship
at
a
cost
to
me,
and
so,
if
they,
if,
if
I
am
not
allowed
to
take
one,
you
know
my
proposed
configuration
then,
and
I
have
to
come
off
the
alley
they
are
going
to
want
me
to
remove
my
72
foot
driveway,
which
allows
me
to
load
my
kids
in
and
out.
You
know
safely
and
parked
cars
off
the
street,
which
is
advantageous
to
our
neighbors
on
the
block.
O
Q
And
mad
mayor,
so
the
question
for
staff-
and
it
relates
directly
to
something
that
mike
brought
up-
is
that
he
compared
this
to
a
recent
approval
of
a
variance
that
pnz
granted.
And
I
know
that
this
is
asking
so
much
of
you
to
understand
why
they
did
it.
But
is
it
common
for
us
to
approve
a
hardship
related
to
a
pool
considering
that
a
utility
is
there
more
to
that
conversation
that
we're
not
quite
seeing
or
his
compare
is
his
comparison,
accurate
to
what
happened.
M
Madam
mayor
council,
member
hallie
burton
the
the
decision
from
my
understanding
was
not
based
on
solely
the
pool,
is
the
full
package
of
where
the
what
the
request
was.
It
wasn't
down
to
comparing
a
pool
to
a
utility.
It
was
the
configuration
of
the
home,
the
historic
status.
What
have
you
full
package.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
mary.
I
know
that
there's
probably
so
many
nuances
to
it
in
a
whole
application,
and
my
assumption
is
that
it
is
more
than
just
the
pool
that
there
were
so
many
different
elements
that
add
to
that
not
just
a
pool
being
counted
as
a
utility
and
us
giving
an
exemption
for
that
specific
reason.
Thank
you.
J
Madame
yeah,
I
also
have
a
question
for
crystal
the.
The
concept
of
hardship
is
one
that
I've
really
struggled
with
each
time
it
comes
up
and
I
gather
from
each
time
I've
asked
what
does
hardship
mean
that
it's
not
really
clearly
defined
and
what
I'm
I'm
struggling
with
again
here,
because
here
we're
hearing
about
you,
know,
ordinarily,
when
I
think
of
hardship,
I
think,
of
hardship
to
the
applicant
and
there's
some
testimony
about
that
in
terms
of
financial
costs.
J
But
here
are
the
applicants
saying
this
could
cause
a
hardship
to
my
neighbor
across
the
alley,
the
school
in
terms
of
the
safety
of
the
students
or
traffic
there.
So
failure
to
grant
the
appeal
would
cause
a
hardship
to
them
or
failure
to
grant
the
appeal
would
cause
a
hardship
to
my
adjacent
neighbors,
because
I
would
be
parking
on
the
street
and
further
congesting
on
street
parking
and
what
I
wonder,
it's
okay,
to
say:
yes,
no
or
I
don't
know,
but
I
wonder
if
like
does
our
hardship,
analysis
or
rule
like?
M
Not
america,
council
member
agent,
we
do
consider
the
full
picture,
and
in
this
particular
instance,
what
we're
looking
at
is
the
side
and
the
rear
setback.
While
code
does
make
preferential
preference
to
taking
access
off
the
alley,
we're
not
requiring
that
we're
just
requiring
that
he
meet
the
setbacks.
J
So
I
think
what
I
just
heard
is
in
in
staff's
view
it
wouldn't
be
appropriate
to
consider
or
potentially
a
hardship
to
the
school
because
we're
not
requiring
that
they
take
access
off
the
alley.
So
we
don't
have
to
tangle
with
the
thorniness
of
whether
the
hardship
to
the
school
counts
and
are
we
would
we
require
removal
of
the
driveway?
K
Vladimir,
yes,
thank
you
crystal
so
to
follow
up
on
this.
I
you
said
that,
in
staff's
view,
the
location
of
utility
is
not
a
hardship,
and
while
I
certainly
understand
that
every
yard
has
utilities,
and
certainly
as
properties,
get
redeveloped
and
remodeled
those
utilities
come
into
play.
K
K
Just
like
in
the
whole
picture,
with
perhaps
the
swimming
pool,
they
don't
need
to
require
the
relocation
of
the
swimming
pool
by
granting
of
variance
within
the
whole
picture.
I
guess
I'm
just
having
a
hard
time
understanding
this.
The
statement
that
I
believe
I
heard
you
s.
You
say
that
the
location
of
utilities
could
not
be
a
hardship,
because
that
was
not
my
understanding
going
into
this
particular
hearing.
M
Madam
mayor
council,
president
plague,
the
variance
criteria
requiring
a
hardship
be
shown
is
really
to
provide
an
avenue
for
flexibility
on
properties
that
have
unique
physical
constraints,
such
as
topographic
limitations
or
irregular
lot
shape.
This
site
is
a
standard
parcel.
It's
got
no
topography
on
it
and
looking
at
something
like
a
utility
line
which
is
really
ubiquitous
in
all
residential
zones,
deeming
that
a
hardship
when
it's
something
that
almost
any
property
owner
might
have
to
deal
with
in
terms
of
redevelopment
in
the
planning
team's
view
does
not
meet
that
standard
for
variance
approval.
M
A
That
helped
so
council
president,
it's
well
within
your
purview
to
be
able
to
to
make
findings
that
suggest
that
it
is
the
council's
doing
a
strict
reading
of
our
current
ordinance.
And,
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
conversation
last
time
from
council
was
indeed
that
you
all
wanted
more
information
on
the
placement
of
utilities
etc.
As
part
of
the
deliberation
that
would
be
had
in
this
reconsideration.
K
M
I'm
going
to
mayor
president
council
president
clay:
could
you
just
restate
that
question
one
more
time
for
me.
A
H
H
Sorry
to
jump
in
here,
since
this
is
an
appeal
we
would
just
be
limiting
this
to
party
of
records.
Sure.
G
Not
on
this
specific
project,
but
I
can
speak
to
the
issue
that
on
24th
street
that
the
gentleman
just
referenced
the
pool
situation.
Oh.
A
Interesting,
I
would
love
to
let
you,
but
from
a
legal
perspective
we
can
only
hear
from
parties
of
record
right
now.
Sorry
about
that.
Well,.
G
A
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
sure
that
they
would
be
interested
in
knowing
we
can't
do
that.
There
was
a
finding
a
a
willingness
to
have
a
reconsideration
this
evening,
but
the
record
I'm
going
to
ask
the
attorney
to
jump
in
here.
We
just
we
can't
open
it
up
to
folks
that
weren't
on
the
original
record.
N
Madame
james
smith,
deputy
attorney
for
the
record,
the
appeal
is
limited
to
parties
of
record,
which
includes
those
who
testified
at
the
previous
hearing
orally
or
in
writing,
or
those
who
signed
up
to
testify
at
that
at
that
hearing.
So
if,
if
any
of
in
attendance
tonight
are
in
that
group,
they're
entitled
to
testify.
G
I
can't
have
you.
I
could
note
that
I'm
david
klinger
at
1404
north
24th
street-
I
did
attempt
to
testify
tonight
on
issues
that
are
germane
to
your
discussion
tonight.
Thank.
A
I
Mayor,
yes,
can
I
just
ask
a
clarifying
question
to
follow
up
so
because,
because
the
applicant
brought
or
the
appellant
brought
new
evidence
around
the
pool
situation,
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
are
allowed
to
consider
that
in
this
now
appeal
hearing,
where
only
we're
limited
to
the
record
in
our
decision
making.
Is
that
correct.
N
The
council
has
discretion
to
find
error
in
planning
and
zoning's
review.
If
council
finds
error
in
planning
zoning's
decision,
it
has
retained
authority
under
our
development
code
to
reverse
or
modify
that
decision
and
the
the
development
code
does
not
limit
this
body
in
terms
of
what
information
may
be
considered
when
council
reverses
or
modifies
the
decision.
A
Question
just
to
kind
of
put
that
in
my
own,
simple
language,
let's
say
we're
hearing.
There
was
a
decision
made
by
planning
zoning
on
a
housing
development
and
it
was
to
deny-
and
then
it's
appealed
to
us
and
in
that
time,
well,
the
parties
of
records
stay
who
they
were
based
on
email
and
in-person.
Testimony
at
the
beginning,
the
applicant
has
the
ability
to
come
forward
with
changes
to
the
application
and
present
to
us
to
allow
council
to
substitute,
if
you
will
new
findings
almost
based
on
what
they
might
have
chosen
to
consider
that
evening.
A
N
If
I
understand,
if
I
understand
metamer's
question
and
to
be
fair
under
the
under
the
development
code
there,
there
is
some
indication
that
the
city
would
like
to
see
new
information
on
reconsideration
requests.
In
fact,
that's
one
of
the
criteria
that
that
asks
for
information
and
asks
that
it
be
that
it
be
new
information
that
was
not.
That
was
not
previously
before
the
body
on
on
on
the
original
determination.
So
to
be
fair
that
the
development
code
does.
A
A
N
B
A
G
R
A
good
evening,
madam
mayor
council
members,
my
name
is
eric
hagen,
I'm
the
north
end,
neighborhood
association
planning
and
zoning
chair.
I
live
at
809
north
18th
street
I've
been
following
this
project,
as
well
as
all
planning
and
zoning
projects
for
the
past
year.
As
my
role
in
as
the
planning
and
joining
chair
is-
and
I
have
seen
a
couple
projects
that
came
up
for
variance
request
and
ended
up
being
approved.
R
Sorry,
I'm
trying
to
reconfigure
my
screen
as
it
as
it
switched,
and
I
lost
my
page
that
I
was
looking
at
and
these
projects
ended
up
being
being
approved
that
we're
requesting
pretty
much
exactly
the
same
variance
request
a
request
to
to
side
yard
or
rear
yard
setbacks,
one
of
them.
One
of
them,
is
the
one
from
the
other
week
that
mr
maraglio
had
referenced
the
1402
north
24th
street
that
project.
R
Similar
to
you
all.
You
guys
that
a
pool
versus
a
utility
line
can
both
be
moved.
So
it's
a
question
of
what
what
can
or
what
can't
be
two
other
projects
that
have
come
up
the
north.
In
the
north
end,
we
have
alturas
heights,
which
is
a
townhouse
community
that
was
approved
by
planning
and
zoning
back
in
december,
and
it
was
requesting
several
variances
from
the
side,
yard
setbacks
and
it
got
approved
now
that
site
has
a
it's
at
all
tourism.
R
In
this
case,
mr
moravio
was
just
asking
for
a
couple
foot
setback
and
that
was
going
from
a
15
foot,
set
side
yard
setback
to
a
five
foot
side
yard
setback
in
that
case,
that
project
had
pushback
from
pretty
much
everyone
in
the
neighborhood
as
well
as
trying
to
also
cover
what
mr
klinger
was
saying
was
probably
trying
to
say
earlier
is
that
the
24th
street
project
also
had
neighborhood
pushback
on
that,
but
yet
they've,
both
been
approved
earlier
on
in
2020,
won
a
project
in
the
west
end
of
town
at
moore
street.
S
Yes
hi,
madam
mayor
and
council
council
today,
dana
oland,
I
am
a
resident
at
2615,
west
lemp
street
in
boise.
I
am
across
the
the
house
I
live
in,
backs
on
to
ellis
street,
and
mike
morelia
is
the
my
neighbor
to
the
back,
and
I
have
been
in
support
of
this
this
project
that
mike
has
been
trying
to
do
since
he
began.
It
he's
a
great
neighbor.
I
think
some
of
his
concerns
are
really
to
look
at
the
greater
need
of
the
neighborhood.
S
S
I
I
understand
what
you
know,
what
the
whole
idea
of
the
of
the
trying
to
keep
everything
in
line
with
codes,
but
it
it
just
seems
that
you
know,
based
on
the
evidence
that
I've
heard
tonight
that
there's
enough
leeway
to
be
able
to
allow
for
this
setback
that
mike
needs.
So
he
doesn't
damage
his
vehicle
in
his
house.
He
doesn't
take
away
the
ability
to
keep
cars
off
the
street,
because
that
is,
it
does
get
very
congested.
S
You
know
we're
all
very
much
in
line
with
what
he
is
trying
to
do
so,
I'm
here
in
support
of
mike
this
project-
and
I
hope
council
can
see
a
way
to
allow
for
this
variance.
S
B
Is
and
he's
trying
to
promote,
I'm
not
sure
the
challenges
that
they're
having
that
it
is.
A
P
We
go
hi.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
oh
okay,
something
was
wrong
with
my
other
computer,
so
I
ran
over
here
hi.
My
name
is
jerry
hack.
I
live
across
the
street
or
I
reside
at
some
times
at
2615.
West
limp
street
mike
is
our
neighbor.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
members,
for
allowing
me
to
speak
and
share
I've
shared
at
the
last
couple
of
meetings.
I
guess
mike
needs
to
build
a
pool.
P
P
He
has
a
unique
situation
with
his
with
his
front
loading
driveway
and
it's
we've.
He
proved
that
the
front
loading
driveway
was
historically
there
for
over
65
70
years.
I
believe
it
was,
and
I
just
find
it
really
sad-
that
you're
not
willing
to
give
a
minor
setback,
even
a
side
variance,
would
help
him
greatly
if
he
had
a
pool
that
might
help.
P
That's
my
point
is
at
what
point
do
you
guys
decide?
What's
a
hardship
or
not?
This
is
a
person
that
bought
a
long
time
ago
when
he
could
afford
to
live
here.
He
doesn't
live
on
24th
street,
which
is
one
of
the
most
prestigious
states
streets
in
the
north
end.
He
lives
on
ellis.
He
backs
to
a
school
and
state
street.
He
backs
to
a
school.
He
wants
to
be
able
to
come
in
and
out
of
the
front,
and
I
just
walk
down
that
alley
today.
P
At
school
time
it's
really
busy,
and
so
you
know
he
has
gotten
the
support
of
every
single
neighbor
that
touches
him
front
back
and
side
and
in
front
of
and
he's
such
a
kind
and
loving
person
and
such
a
kind
and
caring
individual.
That's
what
he
did
in
spite
of
having
three
kids
under
the
age
of
three
and
a
half.
So
you
know
I'm
asking
you
to
re
consider
what
you
believe
is
a
hardship.
P
Maybe
on
your
income,
you
know
moving
those
for
20,
000
isn't
a
hardship,
but
maybe
for
some
people,
the
general
people
of
the
united
states.
That
is
a
hardship
you
know
and
he's
trying
to
be
able
to
build
a
unit
so
that
he
can
be
able
to
work
from
home
because
of
coven.
He
is
trying
whatever
he
can
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
I'm
asking
that
you
guys
reconsider
that
and
reconsider
the
fact
that
he's
not
building
eight
townhomes
and
moving
a
setback
from
15
feet,
which
is
to
five
feet.
P
T
A
So
now
anyone
else
in
the
room
just
because
we've
had
so
many
questions.
Do
I
then
have
staff
and
then
mike.
Q
Mad
mayor,
I've
got
a
question
for
staff.
I'm
gonna
piece
this
together.
The
best
that
I
can.
I
don't
have
last
meetings
minutes
in
front
of
me,
but
at
the
last
meeting
we
talked
about
a
potential
hardship
of
the
alleyway
in
the
back,
because
it
is
next
to
a
school
and
the
amount
of
traffic,
that's
going
back
and
it
makes
it
difficult
to
have
a
rear
loading
alley.
We
knew
all
that
information
the
last
time,
but
we
didn't
identify
that
as
a
hardship.
Q
We
looked
at
all
the
other
areas.
We
didn't
identify
those
as
hardships
either,
but
then
we
identified
the
possibility
that
there
might
be
utility
lines
that
run
next
to
the
development
and
that
that
might
create
a
hardship
with
the
construction,
and
my
personal
view
is
that
every
single
lot
has
this:
it's
not
unique.
This
would
not
qualify
for
a
hardship
because
any
any
piece
of
property.
This
is
a
normal
size.
There's
nothing
super
unique
to
this,
but
I
guess
my
question
for
staff.
Q
Q
Yep
and
and
madam
mayor
just
to
follow
up
there,
I
guess
so.
My
understanding
is
that
at
the
last
meeting
based
off
where
the
utility
lines
may
be
and
the
additional
cost
that
that
might
occur
and
having
to
move
those,
we
sent
that
back
for
reconsideration,
because
if
it
did,
we
thought
that
would
cause
a
hardship.
Q
A
Right
and
so
the
they
there
is
important,
and
I
was
nodding
because
I
was
just
saying:
yes,
you
were
recalling
the
meeting
correctly
if
the
piece
that
I
recall
was
that
we
asked
the
applicant
that
we
would
consider
learning
more
related
to
the
utility
placement
and,
if
that
indeed
could
factor
into
this,
we
wanted
the
applicant
to
return
with
that
information.
A
That's
my
memory
of
the
kind
of
deliberations
that
we
had
as
a
body
in
making
the
determination
that
was
made.
Then.
J
J
Crystal
one,
I
apologize
one
more
time:
I'm
gonna
keep
trying
to
learn
what
hardship
means
and
it
just
it
sort
of
occurred
to
me
when
we
consider
hardship
is
part
of
the
analysis
to
balance
like
the
amount
of
hardship
against
the
amount
we're
being
asked.
So,
for
example,
a
grave
hardship
would
certainly
outweigh
an
eight-inch
setback.
Variance
a
tiny
hardship,
probably
wouldn't
outweigh
a
15-foot
setback,
variance
and.
J
M
O
A
O
O
So
you
know
it's
it's
just
I
mean
again.
This
is
this,
is
I
I
you
know
my
goal
here
was
to
to
bring
back
the
information
that
council
requested,
there's,
there's
various
circumstances
and
similar
situations
and
within
just
the
north
end,
and
that's
the
only
area
where
you
know
that
I
kind
of
know
and
talking
about
here
where
you
know
a
granting
of
variance.
O
Is
you
know,
and
so
I
I
guess
what
I
I
got
kind
of
leave
you
with
is
is:
is
you
know
if,
if
a
pool
is
a
hardship
for
one
person
and
a
moving
utility
is
a
hardship
for
another
person?
You
know
I.
I
think
there
should
be
some
consistency
with
ruling
on
on
that
and
and
in
regards
to
my
situation,
I
know,
maybe
by
code
or
strict
code,
that
topography
has
been
a
hardship
in
the
past
for
variants,
but
you
know
historical
lot.
O
Configuration
should
be
too
and
and
that's
how
my
lot
was
set
up
built
in
1937,
and
this
is
how
it
works,
and
that's
why
I
designed
a
garage
adu
to
meet
my
lot.
You
know
so
with
that
you
know
I
again.
I
asked
the
council
to
consider
the
everything
presented
tonight
and
you
know
make
a
decision
that
would,
hopefully
you
know
kind
of
improve
my
chances
of
moving
forward
with
this
project
to
help
my
family,
I
yield
back.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
with
that,
any
I'm
going
to
close
the
public
record,
and
this
issue
is
before
council.
A
J
I
don't
need
to
explain
it
all.
Then.
Please
do
madam
mayor
a
couple
of
things.
First,
hardship
continues
to
be
the
hardest
thing
for
me
to
figure
out
how
to
apply
and
the
staff's
comment
about.
Looking
at
the
big
picture
and
level
of
impact,
I
think
is
helpful
here:
the
applicant's
requesting
a
variant
from
the
setback
on
what
it
gathers
the
south
edge
of
the
property,
the
back
edge
up
against
the
alley
that
setback
is
going
to
be
against
an
alley.
J
That's
used
for
people
to
take
access
to
a
school
as
compared
to,
for
instance,
against
another
neighbor
who
might
be
enjoying
the
peace
and
quiet
of
their
backyard.
So
the
level
of
impact
that
variance
in
my
mind,
is
small
and
then,
on
the
adjacent
neighbor
side,
we're
talking
about
24
inches.
It's
not
you
know,
he's
not
going
right
up
to
the
property
line.
The
neighbor
doesn't
object,
that's
not
really
relevant
because,
of
course,
our
codes
are
here
to
maintain
continuity
and
perpetuity,
but
none
of
the
other
neighbors
object
either.
J
Nor
does
the
the
historic
preservation
community.
It's
just
kind
of
all
strong
and
compelling
evidence
to
me
that
that
the
amount
of
variance
or
the
scope
or
the
size,
the
degree
of
the
variance
that's
requested
here
is
small
and
then
against
that
we
have
this
hardship
issue
where
the
gentleman's
not
talking
about
a
trivial
amount
of
money
taking
access
through
the
property
given
where
his
house
is
currently
located
is
a
convoluted.
J
You
know
way
to
access
the
garage
really
any
way
you
cut
it
unless
you
take
access
off
the
alley
which
creates
a
different
amount
of
hardship,
and
then
you
know,
although
not
entirely
relevant.
I
think
it's
kind
of
pertinent
that
all
of
our
codes
should
point
to
efficient
high
best
use
of
the
land
in
our
community,
and
here
he
wants
to
build
an
adu.
J
He
wants
to
at
least
take
a
step
towards
ameliorating
our
housing
problem.
He
wants
to
do
it
in
a
way
that's
safe
for
the
children
at
the
school.
He
has
full
support
of
his
neighbors
and
his
plan
will
reduce
parking
congestion
on
his
street,
and
so
you
know
in
my
mind
that
qualifies
under
that
kind
of
squishy
multi-factor,
balancing
hardship
test,
and
so
the
the
technical
grounds
I
would
say
would
be
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission's
decision
was
not
supported
by
substantial
evidence
through
no
fault
of
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
J
K
Adam
mayor
thanks
yep,
thank
you
I'll,
be
supporting
this
motion.
I
also
find
that
in
this
case,
the
hardship
while
not
based
on
the
physical
configuration
of
the
lot
or
any
geographic
conditions
is
in
fact
created
by
the
historic
layout
of
the
lot
itself
and
also
by
the
exceptional
circumstance
of
the
school
utilizing
the
alley
for
access
and
in
doing
so,
making
it
safer
frankly
for
this
applicant
to
take
access
from
the
front
of
his
yard
rather
than
from
the
alley.
K
So
I
think,
between
those
two
things,
the
historical
layout
of
the
lot
pattern,
the
exceptional
circumstance
of
the
use
of
the
alley
today
and
the
fact
that
this
variance,
if
we
grant
it,
will
not
create
a
conflict
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
In
fact,
as
council
member
bajan
noted,
it
will
support
many
of
the
goals
in
the
comprehensive
plan
with
an
adu.
K
K
I
think
that
fact
backed
up
by
the
case
that
all
of
the
neighbors
in
this
particular
instance
are
supportive
of
this
application.
A
B
A
A
Okay
and
now
we
have
cpa,
21-5
the
city
of
boise
pathways
master
plan.
Sorry
all
we
probably
we
should
have
switched
the
agenda
since
all
of
you
have
been
sitting
here
to
talk
about
this.
Sorry
about
that,
but
thanks
for
waiting
it
out
and
with
that,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started.
U
All
right,
madam
mayor
council
members,
it's
my
pleasure
to
present
to
you
cpa,
21-5,
an
amendment
to
blueprint
boise
to
adopt
the
pathways
master
plan
by
reference
I'll,
be
providing
a
high
level
overview
of
the
plan,
and
my
colleagues
and
teammates
on
the
plan.
Bree
brush
and
lindsey
mosher
are
here
to
answer
any
questions.
U
U
U
While
I'm
excited
to
present
the
network
to
council
and
the
public
tonight,
I'm
even
more
proud
to
speak
to
the
process
by
which
the
plan
was
developed
over
the
course
of
10
months,
the
city
listened
and
learned
from
a
planning
work
group
and
the
public
to
identify
opportunities
and
preferences
for
expanding
the
pathway
network
across
our
city.
With
this
information
we
crafted
goals
and
identified
a
draft
network.
Then
again
we
opened
it
up
to
receive
feedback
from
the
work
group
and
the
community
on
our
proposals.
U
The
planning
work
group
was
composed
of
various
community-wide
stakeholders
who
can
ensure
that,
as
we
work
to
identify
the
expanded
network,
we
were
considering
a
variety
of
city-wide
interests.
Council
president
clegg
and
council
member
hallie
burton
served
on
the
committee
as
well
as
numerous
other
community
members
representing
the
group
shown
on
the
screen.
I'd
like
to
thank
each
of
them
for
their
time
and
commitment
to
the
plan
process.
U
The
plan's
five
goals
are
shown
here
on
the
screen.
What
we
heard
from
our
community
was
that
they
wanted
a
pathway
system
that
could
serve
both
as
a
recreational
recreational
system
and
one
that
expanded
transportation
choice,
ultimately
improving
our
community
by
promoting
equity,
increasing
public
health
and
reducing
environmental
impacts.
U
The
plan
originated
from
the
desire
to
build
pathways
where
the
city
has
the
ability
to
plan
and
implement
transportation
related
projects.
Therefore,
the
development
of
the
pathway
network
focused
on
off-street
corridors
such
as
undeveloped,
land
parks,
canals
and
roadway
corridors
shown
in
green
on
the
screen.
U
Due
to
the
built
out,
nature
of
boise,
small
portions
of
the
on-street
network
were
identified
to
fill
critical
gaps
shown
in
blue
purple
and
yellow
on
the
screen
in
the
project
report
and
on
the
city
of
boise
website.
Council
and
the
public
can
access
an
interactive
version
of
this
map
in
order
to
explore
the
110
miles
of
proposed
pathway.
U
In
addition
to
to
the
network
policy
policy,
recommendations
were
identified,
the
policy
recommendations,
focus
on
leveraging
private
development
to
secure
pathway,
easements
furthering
our
partnerships
with
irrigation
districts
and
ensuring
the
pathway
that
the
pathway
system
complements
our
on-street
bicycle
and
pedestrian
network.
U
With
the
adoption
of
the
plan
brings
exciting
next
steps,
there
are
several
concrete
actions
that
we
can
take
to
ensure
the
city
is
making
progress
on
the
plan's
goals,
beginning
coordination
with
parks
and
recreation
and
irrigation
districts
to
identify
quickly,
implementable
pathways,
reviewing
and
updating
our
agreements
with
irrigation
districts
so
that
we
can
act
more
swiftly
during
the
planning
and
zoning
process,
as
well
as
incorporating
language
that
more
explicitly
supports
pathway
development
within
the
zoning
code.
Rewrite
process.
U
A
All
right
well,
then,
we'll
jump
right
into
the
public
hearing.
Three
people
sign
up
in
advance.
V
Madame
this
is
lucy.
I
did
have
a
a
question.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
that's!
Okay!
I
just
I
just
book
up,
I
in
reviewing
material.
I
think
this
is
really
exciting
and
I
think
people
are
going
to
want.
More
and
more
of
this,
I
had
a
question
about
the
funding
and
madam
mayor,
I
don't
know
if
now
is
a
good
time
to
ask
that
or
if
we
need
to
wait
until
another
time.
Oh
no
go
ahead.
V
Okay,
so
there
was
a
menu
of
possibilities
on
how
to
fund
this,
and
I'm
wondering
at
what
point
do
we
put
pen
to
paper
about
what
it
will
cost
and
how
it's
phased
out?
I
also
saw
that
some
of
the
public
comments
we're
talking
about
making
sure
that
there
were
staff
allocated
to
be
able
to
make
this
happen.
Can
you
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
the
funding
mechanisms
and
just
time
that
out
for
us.
U
Madam
mayor
councilmember
willett,
I
think
that
your
question
or
bringing
it
exactly
to
that
chapter
that
showed
the
menu
of
funding
options
as
well
as
looking
at
making
sure
that
we
have
a
program
in
place.
That's
prepared
and
ready
to
act
on
pathways
is
really
our
next
step.
We
have
a
lot
to
explore
and
that
the
pathways
plan,
the
master
plan,
really
wanted
to
lay
out
those
options.
U
V
A
Thank
you.
Okay,
just
checking
with
the
other
two
council
members
online
looks
like
we're
good
okay,
so
three
people
signed
up
in
advance,
I'm
going
to
call
their
names
first
and
then
I
know
there
are
others
here.
Peter
snowden
come
on
up
and
then
hunter
brode
is
probably
online
and
and
then
laura
metzler
is
here
in
person.
W
W
Three
years
ago
I
was
out
riding
my
bicycle
on
a
california
highway
that
was
maintained
by
the
california
department
of
transportation.
It
was
in
a
bicycle
lane
and
the
middle
of
the
road
was
kind
of
alligatored
and
a
chunk
of
asphalt
had
been
flipped
up
onto
the
bikeway,
and
the
color
was
identical
to
the
bikeway
color
and
I
didn't
see
it
and
the
next
thing
I
knew
I'm
going
over.
My
handlebars
wasn't
a
good
landing
and
it
was
just
another
thing
that
showed
us
that
california
really
isn't
very
well
governed.
W
We
need
to
look
someplace
else.
We
feel
very
fortunate.
We
ended
up
here
and
the
points
that
I
want
to
make
this
is.
It
is
not
surprising.
Reading
through
this
plan
it
is
very
competent,
very
thorough,
and
it's
focused.
It
isn't
kind
of
you
know
it's
very
unwishy
washy.
These
are
the
things
that
gotta
have
to
get
done.
They've
been
thought
about
a
lot,
that's
very
impressive.
The
second
thing
is
garden
city.
W
You've
got
this
city
of
that
you're
kind
of
wrapped
around
and
has
a
good
chunk
of
the
disproportionate
chunk
of
the
greenbelt
and
getting
people
from
the
west
bench
very
large
population
down
onto
the
greenbelt.
W
I
encourage
you
to
work
very
closely
with
garden
city
to
both
find
those
avenues
and
use
the
settlers
canal,
and
so
that's
my
second
point-
and
my
third
point
is
when
you
look
around
the
globe
and
cities
that
are
making
really
good
use
of
bicycling.
W
There
isn't
a
little
saw
this
recent
selection
of
the
20
top
cities
in
the
world.
There
isn't
a
u.s
city
in
there
and
boise
could
be
that
city
boise.
Has
this
unique
thing
that
other
cities
don't
that's
the
canals
and
they
can
be
a
very
effective
way
of
moving
people
around?
I
know
you've
seen
that
and
it's
one
of
the
highlights
in
the
the
points
that
are
up
there,
and
I
just
encourage
you
to
take
advantage
of
that
in
every
way
possible.
Thank
you
very
much
thanks
peter
madame.
I
Yes,
peter,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment.
I'm
pretty
sure
I
actually
audibly
heard
council
member
halliburton's
heart
singing,
as
you
were
talking
about
boise
being
one
of
those
cities,
that's
lauded
for
our
bicycle
infrastructure
and
where
we
can
make
really
good
use
of
canal
pathways
to
do
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
coming
all
the
way
to
boise
and
providing
your
testimony.
X
Yes,
thank
you,
council
for
having
me,
I
wanted
to
speak
to
what
the
previous
speaker
spoke
to
at
the
moment,
so
I
live
in
southeast
boise
and
often
I
either
ride
in
the
foothills
of
a
mountain
bike,
or
I
go
out
to
the
dam
on
a
road
bike.
X
However,
if
we're
looking
at
how
boise
is
going
to
be,
let's
say
a
destination
for
cyclists
around
the
country
and
those
that
currently
live
here,
I
think
that
there's
a
large
gap
in
large
parts
of
the
city
for
being
able
to
ride
safely
without
interaction
with
cars
or
limited
interaction
with
cars
and
then
also
just
stability
for
people
that
live
in
west
boise.
I
grew
up
in
meridian
it's
as
a
child.
It's
really
dangerous
to,
for
example,
bike
on
you
stick
right.
My
friends
live
two
miles
away
and
we'd
have
to
drive
there.
X
I
think
the
current
bike
infrastructure
is
seriously
lacking
in
a
lot
of
areas
of
the
city.
It's
not
safe
to
ride,
and
I
think
this
does
provide
critical
gaps
to
fill
that
right.
If
you
look
at
the
one
concern
I
do
have
is,
if
you
look
at
a
lot
of
the
streets,
for
example,
I
noticed
the
the
infrastructure
goes
out
towards
west
boise
and
then
some
of
it
pops
over
the
freeway
into
kind
of
the
overland
area.
X
If
those
if
those
streets
aren't
safe,
then
it's
not
really
going
to
be
a
reliable
method
for
people
to
be
commuting
from
across
the
freeway
from
overland
into
the
city.
It's
just.
We
really
need
to
look
at
a
comprehensive
plan,
which
this
does.
I
mean
it
gets
us
90
of
the
way
there
right
I
mean
I'm
incredibly
excited
to
be
able
to
go
west
on
my
bike
for
skis,
because
I
think
the
east
side
of
the
city
is
the
safest
side
of
the
city
right
now
for
cyclists.
So
I
I
wholeheartedly
support
it.
X
I
just
think
that
a
need
to
be
rolled
out
soon,
right,
like
I
don't
my
my
biggest
concern-
is
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
10-year
plan
that,
like
we
slowly
inch
towards
and
like
it,
doesn't
get
better
for
a
while
and
then
just
making
sure
that
you
work
with
kchd
to
address
some
of
those
arteries
where
it
wouldn't
be
safe
for
you
to
go
from
pathway
to
pathway
right,
that's
those
are
my
biggest
concerns
to
the
plan,
which
I
think
that's
again.
A
Thanks
hunter
I'll
just
say
a
couple
things:
first
off
on
the
10-year
plan
versus
quick
action,
our
our
team,
our
office,
is
ready
to
get
to
work
when
this
is
incorporated
by
the
council,
because
it's
a
huge
priority
to
connect
our
farmlands
to
our
foothills
and
meets
many
of
the
goals
of
our
desire
to
see
folks
be
able
to
walk
kids,
especially
be
able
to
walk
10
minutes
to
open
space,
whether
that
be
linear
along
a
canal
or
ditch
or
lateral
or
drain.
A
And
then
your
your
point
about
the
bike.
Infrastructure
overall
is
well
taken
and
you're
lucky
tonight,
because
there's
a
achd
commissioner
on
listening
with
her
hand,
raised
wanting
to
testify,
and
so
your
comments
will
be
heard
by
both
agencies
just
by
chance
this
evening.
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
now
we'll
hear
from
laura
metzler
and
then
that's
all
I
have
on
here
we're
going
to
go
back
and
forth.
Excuse
me
online
to
in
person,
unless
somebody
here
in
person
wants
to
testify
and
head
home,
which
then
I'm
happy
to
take.
You
go
ahead.
F
So
I'm
extremely
excited
about
this.
We
currently
have
to
transport
our
bicycles
down
to
the
glenwood
boise
river
access
right
there
to
get
onto
the
green
belt
and
so
and
from
there.
Of
course
we
can
go
to
eagle
or
or
downtown,
and
this
just
gives
us
a
really
good
opportunity
and
a
safe,
oh
gosh.
I
say
because
we
do
dare
not
ride
our
bicycles
out
of
that
subdivision,
because
that
is
right
now
in
west
boise.
That
is
probably
one
of
the
heavily
congested.
F
We
got
the
mall
and
the
what's
that
cabela
all
that
area
right
around
there.
That's
just
heavily
traffic.
So
this
this
is
a
good
opportunity.
F
I
you
know,
I'm
hoping
that
it's
not
a
10
year
and
a
lot
sooner,
because
I
want
to
use
it,
and
so,
but
I
do
think
that
for
the
future
of
boise,
this
is
a
great
plan,
and
so
I
I
highly
support
it.
Thank
you.
A
Y
A
Great
hi
there
we're
going
to
have-
I
don't
know
if
you're
here
as
commissioner
pickering,
but
you
are
commissioner
vickering
alexis
up
next.
Y
Yeah
good
evening,
madam
mayor
and
council,
I'm
alexis
pickering
a
proud,
boise
resident
in
7772
west
bay
hill
street,
I'm
also
a
public
health
nerd
and
adhd.
Commissioner,
it's
a
pleasure
to
testify
tonight
in
full
support
of
the
boise
pathways
master
plan.
Y
I've
been
involved
in
the
pathways
conversation
for
quite
some
time,
oftentimes
coming
at
it
from
a
public
health
perspective.
The
benefits
of
pathways
are
well
documented
and
cut
across
sectors.
Y
These
reasons,
and
many
others
are
why
I
urge
you
to
approve
this
plan
at
achd.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
make
our
street
safer
for
everyone
for
all
modes.
This
pathways
plan
is
a
great
opportunity
for
partnership
across
all
kinds
of
sectors
and
leaders
to
dig
into
making
our
community
a
more
livable
place.
Y
Acc
doesn't
have
jurisdiction
outside
of
our
right-of-way,
but
we
have
a
huge
impact
on
the
road
infrastructure
that
connects
users
to
these
pathways,
as
somebody
just
previously
mentioned.
So
thank
you.
Staff
indiana
for
including
achd
in
the
pathway,
work
group.
This
informs
our
work
and
helps
us
understand
the
ways
we
can
create.
The
connections
to
pathways
folks
need
to
get
to
safely,
as
the
commissioner
and
boise
bench
resident.
Y
I've
only
been
on
the
achd
commission
for
a
year
and
I'm
working
really
hard
to
make
these
overdue
improvements
on
achd's
end.
But
you
know
those
are
many
years
out
from
materializing,
so
approving
this
pathways
plan
gets
us
one
step
closer
to
serving
our
shared
residents
better
and,
if
approved,
I
understand
that
the
work
will
be
just
beginning
and
it
will
take
leadership,
collaboration
and
vision
to
see
pathways
developed
and
used
across
boise,
and
it
won't
be
easy,
but
please
know
that
you
have
a
partner
in
me
to
help
make
this
plan
a
reality.
Z
Hello,
my
name
is
ireland,
hanker,
I'm
a
director
on
the
idaho
horse
council
trails
committee
and
I'm
also
a
member
of
the
western
riding
club
which
south
borders
on
a
permanent,
open
space
area
that
will
be
very
positively
affected
by
this
plan.
We
are
excited
to
be
included
as
equestrians
in
this
and,
if
you'll
see
in
the
comments
equestrians
are
included
in
this.
Z
I
think
it's
very
important
that
people
realize
the
scope
of
the
equine
industry
here
and
also
the
equestrian
usage,
even
within
the
cities
of
of
boise,
and
it's
important
to
maintain
our
open
spaces
because
they're
being
lost
at
a
record
rate,
so
I'm
very
excited
about
this
plan.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Man.
C
Hey
I'm
eric
wilson.
I
live
at
4906
west
weimost
street
in
boise,
and
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
saying
thank
you
to
mayor
mclean
and
city
council
for
bringing
this
plan
forward
and
supporting
it
through
the
contract
last
year
and
the
planning
process
that
happened.
I
think
this
is
a
really
monumental
day
for
boise.
The
green
belt
and
foothills
are
really
beloved
parts
of
our
city,
I'm
sure,
as
we're
already
hearing
tonight,
that
this
will
be
too
as
it
gets
starts
to
get
implemented.
C
I'm
gonna
keep
my
comments.
Pretty
brief.
I
forgot
to
mention
I'm
submitting
these
comments
on
behalf
of
the
idaho
chapter
at
the
sierra
club.
Just
two
considerations
for
moving
forward
with
one
would
be
to
hire
a
staff
person.
We've
seen
a
lot
of
success
in
eagle.
Actually
they
have
a
staff
person
who's,
leading
on
implementing
a
robust
pathway
system.
They
don't
have
a
master
plan.
C
We
know
that
transportation
is
the
leading
cause
of
air
pollutants
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions
in
a
whole
wealth
of
other
issues
that
are
facing
our
city
right
now
and
that
there's
opportunity
to
help
with
the
implementation
of
this
plan
to
identify
other
like
intersectional
issues
that
are
happening
with
it,
whether
that's
access
to
public
transportation,
affordable
housing,
environmental
health,
public
health
impacts,
tree
canopy.
So
just
two
suggestions:
I
want
to
throw
out
there
for
implementation
moving
forward
and
again
huge
huge
thanks
and
congratulations
on
adopting
the
plan
tonight.
AA
AA
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
very
particularly
excited
about
is
looking
at
new
development
that
happens
or
resurfacing
projects
that
happen
that
allow
the
little
slips
that
help
these
networks
connect
to
each
other.
As
we
look
at
a
regional
bike
and
pedestrian
network,
all
of
these
things
will
help
tie
this
together
to
make
a
great
system
to
encourage
people
to
use
active
transportation
as
their
first
choice
and
their
car
as
the
second
choice,
and
I
yield
back
the
rest
of
my
time.
A
Thanks
for
being
here,
lisa
lisa-
and
I
appreciate
that
you
pointed
out
the
ability
that
this
gives
us
to
make
open
space
and
clean
water.
Investments
that
are,
you
know,
are
bikeway
investments
in
all
areas
of
our
city,
particularly
in
west,
and
southwest
boise.
That
will
have
a
different
kind
of
access
than
they've
had
before.
D
Hello,
madam
mayor,
thank
you,
marissa
keith,
3279,
south
cloverdale
in
boise,
I'm
also
the
president
of
the
southwest
data
county
alliance,
neighborhood
association,
which
is
south
of
the
freeway,
but
these
comments
are
my
own
tonight
and
not
the
associations.
So
I
did
sit
on
this
work
group
and
thank
you
so
much
for
that
opportunity.
It
was
a
really
great
experience
and
I'm
really
happy
to
see
this
plan
come
before
you
tonight
out
here
in
southwest.
It's
been
mentioned
a
couple
times
tonight.
D
We
definitely
lack
in
connectivity,
and
I
wish
this
plan
had
been
around
like
25
or
30
years
ago,
and
maybe
we
wouldn't
be
in
the
situation.
We
are
right
now,
I'm
kind
of
new
to
biking.
I
started
about
two
years
ago,
biking
from
my
house,
which
is
victory
in
cloverdale
area
down
to
boise
state
a
couple
times
a
week,
and
I
can
definitely
say
the
freeway
is
a
huge
barrier.
The
mall
area
is
another
huge
barrier.
D
The
emerald
overpass
is
like
a
suicide
lane
for
bikers,
but
out
here
in
southwest,
we
definitely
have
a
lot
of
canals
and
I
know
people
are
already
using
them,
informally
and
maybe
illegally
according
to
the
canal
company,
but
my
kids
use
them
to
get
to
their
friend's
house,
and
I
would
rather
have
them
walk
along
the
canal
than
walk
down
victory
road
where
traffic's
going
45
and
they
just
have
a
grapple
shoulder.
D
So
I'm
really
encouraged,
and
I
hope
that
this
plan-
you
know
things
start
happening
really
soon,
so
that
our
kids
can
be
safer
and
we
all
can
can
really
experience
our
community
a
little
bit
better.
Thank
you.
A
Thanks
marissa
and
thanks
for
being
a
part
of
this
for
a
new
biker,
I'm
impressed
because
you
took
bree
and
myself
and
some
others
on
a
bike.
Tour
of
southwest
ada
county
really
and
your
kids
were
on
bikes
as
well
and
you're
right.
Those
the
choice
of
words
that
you
use
for
some
of
those
streets
was
very
accurate,
and
then
you
joined
the
sycamore
overlaid
neighborhood
for
their
bike.
Tour
that
I
was
on
as
well.
A
AB
You,
madam
mayor,
yes,
thank
you
madame
marissa
before
you
log
off.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
so
much
for
testifying
today
in
support
of
this,
but
I
also
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
marissa
for
testifying
earlier
today
at
the
state
house
in
opposition
to
hb442,
so
she
is
a
particularly
engaged
boisean
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
that.
Thank
you.
Marissa.
D
A
A
AC
Great
thank
you.
First,
I
want
to
thank
boise
for
the
invitation
to
join
the
boise
pathway
planning
work
group.
As
an
equestrian
representative,
it
was
an
honor
to
work
together
on
the
boise
pathway
master
plan.
Indiana
did
an
amazing
job
prior
to
moving
to
boise
in
1993
I
resided
in
eugene,
oregon
and
boulder
colorado,
where
I
commuted
to
school
and
work
exclusively
as
a
bicyclist
and
a
pedestrian,
and
I
moved
to
boise
29
years
ago
because
of
the
pathway
system.
That
was
there
at
that
time.
So
I'm
honored
to
keep
that
moving
along.
AC
As
a
parent
and
former
teacher,
it
would
be
such
a
relief
to
have
a
pathway
separate
separating
children
from
car
traffic
for
my
daughter
to
make
it
to
riverglen
from
our
house.
She
had
to
cross
hillward
parkway
and
it
scared
me
every
day.
AC
I
really
appreciate
the
suggestion
of
spoils
bank
connecting
residents
with
shadow
hills
elementary
school
river,
glen
junior
high
two
commercial
areas,
as
well
as
the
green
belt,
and
really
appreciate
that
vision.
Lastly,
I
serve
as
the
secretary
on
the
fax
committee
and
fax
is
an
acronym
for
foundation.
AC
Ada
canyon
trail
systems,
so
our
primary
mission
is
facility
in
the
facilitating
the
development
of
the
green
belt
and
pathway
systems
throughout
ada
and
canyon
counties
that
has
been
in
existence
since
1987
and
has
ever
since
worked
with
government
agents
and
private
entities
in
the
planning
and
development
of
pathway
systems.
So
we
worked
together
with
compass,
itd
achd
in
the
cities
and
counties
within
ayden
canyon
county.
AC
So
our
president,
william
gray,
has
written
a
mess,
a
letter
which
I
hope
you
all
received
and
on
the
behalf
of
our
fax
board,
we
have
all
voted
to
strongly
support
this
pathway
system
and
we
appreciate
we
applaud
the
city
of
boise
staff
for
the
work
and
the
development
of
the
proposed
boise
master
pathways
plan.
Thank
you.
B
AD
Thank
you,
mayor
members
of
council.
Can
you
hear
me
all
right?
My
name
is
crispin
gravatt.
I
live
at
117,
north
17th
street
here
in
boise,
and
I'm
here
today
in
support
of
the
master
plan.
I
would
like
to
focus
on
two
primary
issues
in
the
in
the
plan.
AD
I
think
that
creative
partnerships
with
other
entities
in
the
city
of
boise,
like
the
boise
watershed
to
build
out
educational
programming
associated
with
the
the
canal
pathways
systems,
might
be
a
great
opportunity
for
us
to
really
make
this
a
robust
asset
for
the
city
of
boise.
AD
Q
It's
it's
really
interesting
that
earlier
today,
we
actually
had
a
presentation,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
proposed
was
better
accessibility
on
our
trails,
as
well
as
a
disability,
commission,
and
so
it's
exciting,
to
see
the
city
setting
itself
up
to
have
all
the
tools
needed
to
really
be
looking
at
these
paths
in
a
holistic
way,
and
I
think
that
that's
something
important
for
us
to
remember
that
when
we
are
building
these,
we
really
are
building
them
for
everyone
from
equestrians
to
people
on
wheels
the
people
walking
to
people
in
wheelchairs
and
walkers
and
everywhere
in
between.
AD
Of
course-
and
I
do
believe-
I
hope
I'm
not
overstepping
for
anybody
watching,
but
I
do
believe
that
we
do
have
some
strong
allies
to
partner
with
from
the
state
level
commission
on
disabilities.
You.
AE
AE
Nor
did
I
have
access
to
a
vehicle,
so
I
either
walked
biked
or
took
public
transit
and
then
26
of
those
years
it
has
been
in
boise
that
I
have
bicycle
commuted
and
one
of
my
life
goals
has
been
for
the
past.
35
years
is
to
make
biking
accessible
and
the
outdoors
accessible
to
everybody.
So
I
am
thrilled
with
this
plan
and
I
appreciate
everything
that
was
covered.
It
was
very
detailed.
I
read
all
157
pages,
I'm
so
grateful
that
there
are
a
lot
of
pictures.
AE
So,
along
with
that
plan,
I
had
also
read
this
master
plan:
urban
bicycle
route
system
from
1976
and
when
reading
that
and
it
was
fascinating,
I
noted
that
a
lot
of
the
projects
that
were
in
this
plant
from
1976
that
we
wanted
to
do
back
then
are
still
plans
that
we
want
to
do
that.
I
saw
in
the
plan
that
was
just
created
this
past
year.
Actually
a
number
of
them
are
on
there.
Now
in
1976
I
was
a
little
girl.
AE
AE
Probably-
and
I
want
the
opportunity
to
use
these
pathways,
I'm
going
to
use
them
with
my
children,
and
so
I'm
asking
that
we
speed
the
process
along
that
we
not
wait
another
50
years
and
that
we
create
this
position
to
work
on
these
pathways.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
that's
been
done
on
it,
I'm
so
happy
for
our
our
residents
of
boise.
This
is
such
a
great
thing,
and
I
also
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
at
the
hearing.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
AB
Mayor
mary
beth,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you
for
being
so
passionate
about
the
folks
who
are
brave
and
travel
around
our
valley,
either
by
bicycle
or
by
walking,
and
I
want
to
bring
a
particular
attention
to
the
way
you
advocate
and
you
highlight
those
moments
when
cyclists
and
and
pedestrians
have
sadly
succumbed
to
in
attentive
driving
and
car
accidents.
AB
And
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
remember
that
as
well,
that
there
are
folks
who
are
are
not
waiting
for
the
system
to
be
safe
either,
because
this
is
part
of
their
value
system
and
they're
choosing
to
walk
or
ride
a
bike
or,
quite
frankly,
that
they
don't
have
other
choices
because
of
income
or
the
situation
that
mary
bath
outlined,
not
having
the
ability
for
not
being
able
to
drive
or
not
having
a
vehicle.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
you,
mary
beth,
for
highlighting
those
folks
in
our
community.
AE
Thank
you,
councilwoman
sanchez.
Thank
you.
E
Madam
shooting,
madam
mayor
and
city
council,
I
just
would
like
to
build
a
comment
tonight.
I
live
at
5310,
south
umatilla
avenue.
I
live
in
southwest
boise
believe
that
this
master
plan
is
a
movement
in
the
right
direction.
However,
I
believe
that
this
plan
could
be
expanded
to
be
something
that
would
make
voice
even
more
beautiful
there's
connectivity
to
certain
open
lands
and
spaces
and
parks
within
our
city.
E
There
are
certain
areas
in
our
city
that
have
connectivity
to
open
land
and
the
boise
foothills
would
be
a
great
example
of
that
southwest
boise
is
an
area
that
struggles,
so
I
think
this
is
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
I
would
really
like
the
city
council
to
consider
options
for
other
residents
in
other
parts
of
the
city
and
how
these
paths
connect
to
open
spaces,
open
parks,
parks
that
aren't
built
yet
those
type
of
things
and
have
the
city
consider
those
residents
in
southwest
boise
are
extremely
passionate
about
this,
and
I
hear
from
them.
A
G
Q
I'm
going
to
apologize
for
catching
you
a
little
bit
off
guard
with
this,
so
many
people
have
had
an
opportunity
to
talk
tonight
and
you
know
a
couple
of
you
haven't
and
I
I
hope
that
we
can
maybe
just
take
a
quick
second
and
if
you
could
just
come
up
and
let
us
know
how
you
were
involved
with
the
plan.
A
Q
AF
Madam
mayor
council,
president,
excuse
me
councilmember
hallie
burton
my
name
is
lindsey
mosher,
I'm
the
communications
manager
for
planning
and
development
services.
I
started
when
this
project
was
about.
Maybe
a
little
over
halfway
through
in
late
may,
did
the
communications
plan
for
the
remaining
outreach,
and
then
I
went
on
parental
leave
so
that
I
was
out
for
a
few
months
and
then
I
came
back
to
help
finish
up
the
project.
This
fall.
T
T
My
role
at
the
beginning
of
this
plan
started
when
you
approved
it
in
the
council
budget
last
year
for
the
money
to
allocate
for
a
contractor
and
throughout
the
plan
I've
met
with
all
of
the
other
cities
around
us
who
already
have
plans
in
place
to
learn
about
what
their
best
practices
are
met
with
all
of
the
irrigation
district
did
some
achd
coordination
and
did
a
lot
of
that
partnership
coordination
to
learn
what
everyone's
different
needs
are,
how
we
can
learn
from
other
communities
and
added
that,
in
the
supporting
notes
of
the
plan.
U
Yeah,
council,
member,
madame
air
council
member
holly
burton
I
just
I
guess
I
want
to
say
thank
you
this.
I
think
this
project
was
a
really
great
opportunity
to
be
collaborative
across
divisions.
U
This
was
housed
in
comprehensive
planning,
but
bri
in
the
mayor's
office
played
a
really
important
role
in
making
sure
the
project
moved
forward
quickly
and
was
compre
was
comprehensive
in
what
we
were
looking
at
and
not
just
from
a
planning
lens
and
then
lindsay
said
she
came
in
halfway
through,
but
she
really
gave
us
a
lot
of
the
energy
we
needed
to
do.
A
second
really
big
push
public
engagement
outreach.
So
thank
you
to
both
of
them.
A
Thank
you,
and
now
this
is
before
you
guys.
A
Q
I
should
have
asked
you
before
told
you
that
I
was
going
to
do
that.
I
thought
we
would
have
so
many
more
questions
for
them
tonight
that
everybody
would
get
a
chance
to
speak,
but
thank
you
for
taking
the
opportunity
to
speak.
Q
Madam
mayor,
I
approve,
I
move:
approval
of
cpa,
2105
city
of
boise
pathways
master
plan,
an
amendment
to
blueprint
boise
to
adopt
the
boise
pathways
master
plan
by
reference.
I
would
also
request
that
parks
and
rec
return
to
council
at
a
later
date
with
a
project
management
plan
that
outlines
a
staffing
plan
addressing
the
needs
recommended
on
page
83,
as
well
as
some
of
the
needs
that
we've
heard
requested
tonight.
K
Q
Madame,
I
might
hold
my
comments
until
after
the
vote.
If
that's
okay,
I
don't
think
that
there's
anything
that
I
need
to
convince
anybody
of
at
this
point.
A
No,
but
we
it's
best
practice,
just
you're,
not
convincing
us,
but
to
share
your
thoughts
before
the
vote.
Q
Q
So
thank
you
for
the
time
that
you
took
tonight
and
thank
you
for
everybody.
Who's
been
involved
in
the
process.
It
was
wonderful
to
see
so
many
of
you
here
in
person,
but
also
people
online,
who
we
saw
all
throughout
this
process
for
the
last
year
and
a
half
almost
two
years,
and
so
many
of
those
people
are
people
who've
continued
to
show
up
for
this
community
again
and
again
and
again,
and
so
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
continuing
to
do
that.
Q
Tonight
is
a
pretty
big
night.
I'm
pretty
excited,
I'm
also
pretty
honored
that
council
member
clay.
Let
me
make
this
motion.
This
is
something
I've
been
working
on
for
for
eight
years
now,
but
this
is
something
that
council
president
clegg
has
been
working
on
for
much
longer,
and
so
it
really
does
mean
a
lot
to
me
that
you
allowed
me
to
make
this
motion
and
there's
a
bunch
of
people.
Q
But
in
1969
we
approved
the
plan
for
the
boise
green
belt,
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
at
that
moment
truly
understood
the
impact
that
it
would
have
on
boise
and
how
it's
transformed
our
community
into
what
it
is
today,
a
city
that,
like
council,
pro-tem,
holly
woodings
brought
up
earlier,
I
believe,
has
the
potential
to
be
the
bicycle
capital
of
america
and
one
of
the
folks
who
testified
tonight
identified
that
as
well.
Q
Q
And
what
really
makes
this
special-
and
I
don't
know
that
we
really
at
this
point,
understand
the
impact
that
this
is
going
to
have.
But
lisa
brady,
one
of
the
folks
who
are
on
here.
She
runs
the
safe
routes
to
school
program.
Both
of
us
work
in
a
neighborhood
around
borah
high
school
in
the
next
three
to
five
years.
There
could
be
a
pathway
that
connects
borah
high
school
all
the
way
to
hillcrest
library
and
an
entire
neighborhood
in
between,
and
these
are
kids
that
her
and
I
know
really
well.
Q
Q
It
could
be
coming
there
soon
and
we
probably
need
to
get
some
extra
bike
parking
over
there
there
as
well,
but
this
is
going
to
create
opportunities
that
we
we
don't
even
know
about
yet,
and
that's
just
one
one
segment
of
this
community,
I
I
am
going
to
try
to
wrap
things
up,
because
I
know
that
everybody
has
some
some
great
things
to
say,
but
I
think
that
it's
important
to
remember
all
the
folks
who
were
really
involved
in
this
process
from
the
non-profits,
like
conservation,
voters
of
idaho,
idaho
conservation
league,
the
boise
bicycle
project,
the
sierra
club,
who
kind
of
pushed
the
political
will
with
the
canals
connect
communities
coalition
and
really
pushed
this
effort
forward.
Q
Nonprofits
who
have
been
pushing
these
efforts
for
a
really
really
long
time.
I'm
always
amazed
by
the
work
that
our
non-profit
sector
can
do,
and
I
just
want
to
identify
eric,
willitson
and
nina
shaffer
for
really
pushing
that
particular
group
forward.
Your
effort
is
so
impressive
for
folks
just
willing
to
jump
in
there
and
get
their
hands
dirty.
Q
Q
One
of
mine
was
to
learn
a
lot
because
I
knew
I
had
a
lot
to
learn.
One
was
to
be
a
good
team
member
and
the
other
was
canal
pathways,
and
luckily
council
president
and
you
madame
mayor,
were
willing
to
help.
Let
me
learn
were
a
good
team
player
and
allowed
me
to
be
on
your
team
and
allowed
me
to
be
part
of
this
incredible
vision
that
you've
been
pushing
forward
for
the
years,
and
so
I'm
so
thankful
for
you
letting
me
be
part
of
that
incredible
process.
Q
The
other
thing,
that's
pretty
incredible
that
people
don't
really
know,
is
how
much
work
our
staff
truly
put
into
this
bree
brush
deanna
dupuy
lindsey
mosher,
lana
grabel.
I
remember
our
very
first
outreach
that
we
did.
It
was
the
first
in-person
outreach
event
since
the
pandemic
started.
Q
We
hadn't
done
a
single
in-person
outreach
event
and
it
was
like
february
or
march
and
it
was
outside,
and
the
wind
was
like
yeah.
The
wind
was
like
blowing
all
over
the
place
and
you
two
had
like
met
like
the
face
shields
on
and
you're
trying
to
yell
over
the
wind
and
like
lana's,
just
like
holding
on
to
stuff
and
the
community
members
that
were
there.
Q
Although
it
was
cold,
I
think
they
were
having
the
best
time,
because
for
the
first
time
in
a
long
time,
during
this
huge
obstacle
this
pandemic,
they
were
able
to
be
part
of
creating
something
good,
and
so
many
members
of
our
communities
really
gathered
together
to
do
that
and
to
make
that
possible.
Q
There
are
so
many
folks
who
served
on
our
task
force,
and
so
many
of
those
folks
are
again.
People
have
shown
up
time
and
time
again,
50
years
from
now.
I
do
hope
that
all
of
this
is
complete.
Q
I
would
be
89,
and
I
hope
that
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
tell
this
story
the
same
way
that
we
told
the
story
of
the
boise
greenbelt,
and
I
think
that
there's
two
things
that
I
really
truly
hope
people
remember
and
it's
that
this
process
got
started
in
the
middle
of
a
pandemic,
where
we
didn't
know
what
the
future
of
anything
would
be,
but
our
staff
and
our
community
members
continued
to
push
through
and
to
make
this
a
priority.
Q
And
then
the
second
thing-
and
I
thought
about
this
on
my
ride
home
the
other
night-
I
was
thinking
about
all
the
people
that
were
involved
and
what
else
was
happening
in
2020
and
it
was
a
celebration
of
100
years
of
women's
suffrage.
Q
And
what
is
so
impressive
about
this
plan
are
the
incredible
women
who
really
helped
lead
this
and
push
this
forward.
Bree
brush
lindsay
deanna
dupuis,
lana,
alexis
pickering,
oh
council,
member
clay,
you
lauren
mclean,
so
many
people
that
were
part
of
this,
our
women
led
the
way,
and
I
hope
that
that
is
part
of
the
success
story
that
we
tell
50
years
from
now
of
the
obstacles
that
we
overcame.
Thank
you
so
much
for
letting
me
be
part
of
this
process,
and
that's
that's
all
that
I'll
say
at
this
point.
I
I
I
believe
that
it
also
involved
the
canal
bank-
and
I
I
remember
thinking
at
that
point
wow,
like
you,
keep
hearing
how
we
can't
do
anything
on
canal
banks,
how
we've
tried
before
and
the
you
know,
whatever
reason
like
there's
safety
concerns.
There's
access
concerns,
there's
insurance
concerns
and
nobody
can
get
it
done.
But
I
remember
thinking
when
caldwell
got
it
done
it's
like.
I
If
caldwell
can
get
it
done,
maybe
we
can
get
it
done
too,
and
so
this
whole
plan
is,
I
think,
a
really
great
testament
to
a
lot
of
people's
hard
work,
overcoming
a
whole
lot
of
hurdles.
Overcoming
a
lot
of.
We
can't
do
that
with
here's,
a
plan
of
how
we're
going
to
do
it,
and
now
we
have
to
go
out
with
very
intentional
action
to
get
it
done,
hopefully
before
50
years
from
now,
so
that
we
can
actually
be
there
for
the
celebration.
I
I
think
that
would
be
really
great
a
lot
of
folks
who
testified
tonight
and
thank
you,
everyone
for
coming
out
and
expressing
your
support
mentioned,
mentioned
staffing
and
dedicated
staffing.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
we
recently
allocated
quite
a
lot
of
resources
to
the
mayor's
office
for
project
management,
for
things
specifically
like
this
for
these
strategic
objectives.
I
So
I'm
hoping
that
when
someone
comes
back
with
a
plan
for
project
management
and
staffing
of
this,
it
takes
those
positions
that
we've
already
allocated
and
and
puts
those
toward
towards
implementation
of
this
pathways
plan
so
that
we
can
get
this
built
out
sooner
rather
than
later.
So
that
we
can
leverage
all
of
those
community
partnerships
so
that
we
can
see
compass
funding
coming
through
for
the
city
of
boise
and
not
just
for
caldwell,
that
would
be
tremendously
exciting
and
rewarding.
So
thank
you.
I
Everyone
for
your
amazing
work
so
excited
to
take
my
kids
on
pathways
real
sketchy
to
take
my
eight-year-old
who's
all
over
the
place
anywhere
near
a
road,
because
I
know
he's
just
going
to
go
careening
into
traffic,
so
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
enjoying
all
of
these
pathways
alongside
our
community.
Thank
you.
K
K
It's
hard
to
follow
jimmy
because
he
thanked
everyone
that
really
I
was
going
to
thank
so
rather
than
repeat
all
of
that
I'll
just
say
ditto.
K
Yes,
thank
you
all
of
the
folks
that
he
talked
about,
but
I
want
to
point
out
that,
despite
the
fact
that
you
mayor
mclean
and
myself
have
been
talking
about
canal
pathways
and
these
kind
of
pathways
for
a
long
time,
the
energy,
the
dedication,
the
knowledge
that
council
member
hallie
burton
brought
to
this
council
really
was
the
catalyst
I
think
that
got
this
moving,
and
so
I
really
want
to
give
him
the
credit
for
energizing
this
movement
in
a
way
that
that
helped
get
it
over
the
hump.
K
It
really
has
been
a
long
time
coming.
There
are
a
lot
of
barriers.
Boise
grew
much
earlier
than
our
surrounding
communities
for
the
most
part
and
the
canals
that
were
part
of
our
community
forever
got
built
around
before
anyone
ever
thought
of
the
idea
of
formalizing
canal
pathways,
because
at
least
as
I
was
a
kid
50
years
ago
in
this
community,
everybody
just
used
them.
Nobody
thought
they
had
to
have
permission.
Nobody
thought
it
had
to
be
formalized
today.
K
We
do
need
to
do
that,
and
this
is
a
plan
to
begin
getting
that
done
and
doing
it
in
a
way
that
provides
access
all
over
the
the
community.
I
also
hope
that
it
doesn't
take
50
years.
It
was
awfully
gratifying
to
be
part
of
the
celebration
of
the
green
belt
at
50
years,
but
very
sad
that
councilmember
bill
onwiler
had
long
since
passed
and
wasn't
there
to
be
able
to
see
that
day.
Although
his
children
were
there,
his
grandchildren
were
there
and
it
was
great
for
them
to
see
the
outcome.
K
K
The
other
thing
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
this
is
unlike
a
plan
that
you
write
and
put
on
the
shelf
and
and
reference
every
once
in
a
while.
This
is
a
plan
that
is
going
to
be
a
living
document.
It's
not
static
as
time
goes
by
we'll
identify
other
locations
where
we'll
want
pathways.
That
might
not
be
lines
on
the
map
today
and
I
hope
those
get
added.
The
point
of
this
is
that
they
will,
if
they
make
sense
as
time
goes
by
we'll
identify
other
ways.
K
Other
partnerships
other
funding
sources
to
get
this
done,
and
so,
in
the
spirit
of
that
I'd
like
to
request
that
after
we
approve
this
tonight,
which
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
that,
we
also
request
that
staff
come
back
once
a
year
with
a
report
on
the
progress.
K
In
my
experience
on
this
city
council,
when
it's
something
that
we
measure
and
report
on
and
pay
attention
to,
at
least
on
a
yearly
basis,
it
is
something
that
moves
a
little
more
quickly,
so
I'd
make
that
that
one
request
and
then
there's
so
much
more,
but
in
the
spirit
of
of
trying
to
keep
this
a
little
bit
short,
I
will
say
one
last
thing
about
funding,
and
I
appreciate
council
member
will
it's
question.
How
are
we
going
to
fund
this?
I
hope
that
we'll
fund
it
in
a
variety
of
ways.
K
G
K
You
all
voted
to
fund
the
study
that
produced
this
plan
and
so
well,
council,
member
hallie
burton,
and
I
got
to
serve
on
that
committee
to
help
advise
it
all
of
you
were
supportive
and
behind
it
all
of
the
way,
and
and
thank
you-
everyone,
it's
going
to
be
a
great
great
ride.
This
is
this
is
a
big
deal.
You
know
we,
we
do
a
lot
of
kind
of
mundane
things,
kind
of
everyday
things.
K
AB
Madam
mayor,
yes,
thank
you,
madam
mayor,
thank
you
to
council,
member
hallie,
burton
and
council
president
clegg
for
bringing
their
passion
and
their
particular
experience
to
this
particular
project.
I
have
to
be
honest.
AB
I
I
was
so
deeply
moved
when
we
started
to
celebrate
the
50
year
anniversary
of
the
green
belt,
and
I
have
to
shout
out
terry
shoresman,
director
of
arts
and
history
for
detailing,
for
us
what
it
took
to
give
us
the
green
belt
that
I
think
so
many
of
us
take
for
granted
I'm
50
years
old,
so
the
green
belt's
existed
as
long
as
I
have,
and
to
think
that
something
that
is
such.
AB
It's
the
heart
of
boise,
it's
what
we
point
to
with
pride
and
to
hear
the
history
to
hear
terry.
Tell
it
that
as
a
high
school
student,
her
science
teacher
would
give
extra
credit
for
students
who
could
bring
samples
of
the
boise
river
to
test
and
then
in
order
for
her
to
reach
the
water's
edge
she
had
to
climb
over
to
abandoned
vehicles.
AB
AB
There
are
some
people
who
take
those
polar
plunges
in
this
beautiful
pristine
river,
and
I
was
inspired
when,
when
I
learned
about
that
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
what
I
think
is
when
we,
when
we
know
our
history,
when
we
know
what
we're
capable
of
as
a
community,
it
has
a
ripple
effect.
AB
And
so
I
remember
one
of
the
first
things
I
told
our
new
mayor
was.
I
want
to
work
on
this.
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
something
big
and
beautiful
and
that
we're
going
to
point
to
and
say
I
had
my
fingerprints
on
that,
and
so
that
is
what
I'm
hoping.
I'm
hoping
that
moving
forward,
that
every
council
member
will
have
an
opportunity
to
put
their
fingerprints
on
this
project,
the
canal
pathways.
AB
AB
I
grew
up
in
a
farmworker
family
and
it
wasn't
until
about
oh,
not
even
10
years
ago,
that
I
learned
to
appreciate
nature
and
to
feel
that
it
was
a
place
where
I
could
enjoy,
because
when
you
grow
up
working
in
the
fields,
you're
brought
up
to
believe
that
being
outside
is
a
punishment.
AB
You
have
to
be
there
and
to
be
able
to
have
that
paradigm
shift
to
be
able
to
see
the
outdoors
as
a
place
of
respite
as
a
place
where
you
can
rejuvenate
yourself
that
that
requires
some
doing,
and
I
am
grateful
for
all
our
community
leaders
who,
who
work
so
hard
to
preserve
our
open
space
and
and
what
it's
been
for.
A
lot
of
folks
in
our
community
and
council
president
pro
tem
whittings
mentioned
it
earlier.
You
know.
AB
So
we
need
people
who
are
not
comfortable
in
the
outdoors.
We
need
people
who
are
not
comfortable
riding
bicycles,
who
have
not
yet
chosen
that
option
as
a
way
to
either
recreate
or
to
travel
around
our
valley.
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
will
make
that
a
priority
as
well
to
make
sure
that
we
honor
the
wishes
of
our
constituents,
who
have
all
voted
for
us
to
give
our
particular
input
to
these
important
projects.
AB
And
again
I
just
want
to
thank
our
staff
for
this
wonderful
work.
Very
rarely
do
we
have
projects
where
there's
so
much
consensus
and
I
can
feel
even
though
I'm
on
zoom,
I
can
feel
the
excitement
and
the
appreciation
and
the
love
that
our
community
has
for
everyone
who's.
Putting
forward
effort
to
make
this
happen.
J
Madam
mayor,
this
really
is
a
huge
deal
and
I
want
to
congratulate
every
organization
and
person
who
participated
in
this
collaborative
process
and
made
it
happen,
and
I
want
to
thank
council,
member,
hallie
burton
and
council
president
clegg
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
vote
yes
tonight.
I'm
excited
to
do
that.
V
Madam
mayor,
yes,
I
think
I'm
the
odd
woman
out,
so
I
need
to
add
my
voice
here
when
I
met
with
each
council.
Member
before
I
was
sworn
in,
I
had
the
opportunity
with
council
member
halliburton,
and
I
asked
him-
you
know
what
was
the
most
exciting
thing
that
he
was
working
on
and
he
talked
about
this
and
then
he
was
kind
enough
to
reach
out
to
me
and
ask
me
if
I
had
questions-
and
this
is
just
phenomenal-
I
think
this
is
going
to
be
a
legacy
project.
V
Like
I
said
earlier,
I
think
people
are
going
to
love
this
they're
going
to
want
more
of
it
and
it's
going
to
really
change
the
dynamics
for
our
community.
For
the
better
and
I'd
like
to
echo
what
councilwoman
sanchez
said
for
those
of
us
who
are
not,
as
is
outdoorsy,
who
probably
could
get
beat
on
a
bike
pretty
easily
I.
A
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
the
work
that
you
did
as
council
member
hallie
burton
said,
I'm
starting
in
the
one
of
the
most
challenging
times
our
city
has
seen
in
so
long
and
staying
focused
on
it,
bringing
to
council
and
to
the
community
importantly
and
the
information
that
they
needed,
that
we
needed
the
coalescing
activities
that
you
created
to
bring
us
together
to
talk
to
the
value
of
these
linear
pathways
and
linear
parks.
A
From
the
time
the
first
white
people
came
from
the
east
and
landed
here.
They
were
dreaming
of
how
to
connect
our
river
to
our
benches
and
our
our
lands.
That
would
eventually
become
farms
and
what
more
logical
way
than
to
connect.
Our
residents
from
our
farmland
to
our
foothills
connected
by
our
river,
then
to
look
today
at
what
outside
places
working
spaces
as
councilmember
sanchez.
So
appropriately
put
the
the
change
in
ways
that
we've
looked
to
from
farmland
to
being
outside.
A
I
think
you
were
part
of
that
committee
back
in
the
day
that
put
together
a
foothills
plan
that
was
made
real,
because
a
council
was
willing
to
vote
yes
and
then
to
work
hard
to
get
it
passed
as
a
levy,
so
that
there
was
a
funding
source
and
the
legacy
of
that
is
not
just
the
money
that
was
spent.
That
was
provided
to
us
by
our
residents,
but
the
partnerships
that
were
formed.
A
A
A
A
In
tough
times
we
were
trying
to
do
it
safely
in
different
ways
for
jumping
online
sharing
your
feedback
to
the
canal,
companies
that
have
built
relationships
with
our
staff
and
that
took
me
along
canals
to
help
me
better
understand
how
they
connect
with
the
community,
but
also
our
working
waters
and
what
that
means,
and
each
one
of
you
up
here
that
is
going
to
help
us,
because
that's
incredibly
important,
ensure
that
we
take
the
steps
in
the
coming
year
to
make
real
on
this
vision
and
build
the
momentum
necessary.