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A
In
the
fire
department
totaling
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
as
a
result
of
increased
pricing
for
our
fire
engines,
we
had
a
similar
action
a
series
of
weeks
ago
in
on
the
fire.
Excuse
me
on
the
police
department
side,
as
we've
seen,
cost
escalation
across
the
board
for
our
major
equipment.
A
The
second
fiscal
year
23
item
is
to
support
the
transition
from
phase
one
into
phase
two
of
the
library
strategic
planning
process.
This
action
would
be
supported
with
Savings
in
the
capital
fund
as
a
result
of
deferring
the
branch
condition
assessment
project.
A
A
The
the
next
item
is
a
reduction
in
the
budget
to
the
Primrose
Park
project.
That
reduction
is
as
a
result
of
an
acceleration
of
funding.
So
back
in
July,
the
council
accelerated
funding
from
fiscal
year
23
into
fiscal
year
22..
This
is
the
the
second
half
of
that
adjustment.
To
remove
the
fiscal
year,
23
funding
similar
action
is
recommended
for
Ivy
Wild
skate
park
design.
That
project
was
Advanced
into
fiscal
year,
22
back
in
August.
This
is
the
second
half
of
that
adjustment.
A
In
terms
of
a
completion
date,
I
do
not
have
I
do
not
have
that,
although
we
can
certainly
work
with
our
library
Partners
to
get
that
to
you.
I
I
do
know
that
we
anticipate
a
subsequent
IBC
later
on
in
fiscal
year,
23
for
the
second
half
of
of
phase
two
of
that
planning
effort.
B
That's
that
was
that
was
actually
the
question
and
you
don't
need
to
do
any
follow-up,
but
there's
a
75
000
chunk
of
money
that
we're
gonna,
you
know
take
off
the
table
to
complete
the
Strategic
plan,
and
the
question
really
is:
is
that
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
gonna
come
back
up
later
in
23,
or
is
the
Strategic
plan
going
to
take
long
enough
that
that's
now
going
to
be
in
24.
A
That
that's
a
great
question.
I
do
believe
that
the
the
branch
condition
assessment
would
be
a
part
of
the
fiscal
year
24
or
later
process.
Great.
E
A
Thank
you
for
the
question,
so
the
capital
Fund
in
many
regards
is
an
offshoot
of
the
general
fund.
There
is
an
annual
transfer
that
occurs
each
year
right
now
that
annual
transfer
is
about
12
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
goes
from
the
general
fund
to
the
capital
Fund.
In
addition,
electric
franchise
fees
are
accounted
for
within
our
Capital
fund.
We
also
do
transfers
from
our
impact
fee
fund
into
the
capital
fund
for
eligible
Parks,
police
and
fire
capital
projects.
Those
are
the
primary
funding
sources
for
our
Capital
fund.
A
E
A
A
council
member
just
for
clarification,
are
you
talking
about
the
the
increase
in
the
the
fire
engine
cost?
No.
E
I'm
talking
about
just
in
general
like
if
we
have
do,
we
have
an
excess
in
capital
funds,
because
we've
been
saving
for
something
else.
That
didn't
happen.
Or
is
this
the
typical
amount
that
we
would
have
every
year.
A
Thank
you
for
that
question.
When
we,
when
we
build
the
budget
for
the
capital
fund,
we
tend
to
look
at
it
Beyond
one
year,
so
we
we
develop
a
five-year
plan.
So
as
it
stands
right
now,
our
Capital
plan
was
balanced
and
is
balanced
over
a
five-year
period.
We're
currently
evaluating
you
know
current
inflationary
impacts
that
we're
seeing
and
cost
escalation,
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
but
right
now
that
capital
capital
plan
over
a
five-year
period
is
in
a
balanced
position.
Okay,.
F
All
right,
like
we
call
the
roll
weddings,
yes
agent,.
G
G
D
Next
up,
Nikki
Nikki
Helen
camp
is
going
to
present
a
document.
I
think
everybody
should
have
received
was
it
in
the
Friday
packet
or
just
as
part
of
the
council
agenda.
The
report
that
the
technical
advisory
committee
from
the
Uli
put
together
on
our
housing
initiatives.
H
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
judge
distance
here.
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
members
of
council,
happy
to
be
with
you
this
afternoon
again
for
the
record
Nikki
helenkamp
with
the
mayor's
office
here
to
present
on
a
report
provided
by
the
Urban
Land
institute's
Terwilliger
Center
for
housing
related
to
the
city
of
Boise's
work
on
housing,
affordability.
H
So,
as
you
may
remember,
the
Urban
Land
institute's
Terwilliger
Center
for
housing
conducted
a
technical
assistance
panel
here
in
Boise
in
May
of
this
year.
It
was
a
six-member
panel
composed
of
two
local
panelists,
as
well
as
four
panelists
from
other
parts
of
the
country
during
the
three
days
that
they
spent
with
us.
They
conducted
more
than
40
interviews
representing
a
broad
base
of
community
interests,
including
City
and
other
public
agencies,
social
service
providers,
Arts
organizations,
residents,
Business,
Leaders
and
non-profit
and
for-profit
developers.
H
To
consider
were
values
around
open
space,
around
access
to
Recreation,
around
Pathways
and
transportation,
and
around
affordability,
noting
to
them
that
this
was
a
community
that
historically
had
been
affordable
to
people
at
a
range
of
income
levels
and
that
that
is
part
of
our
community's
values
as
well.
So
we
asked
them
about
practices
in
particular
that
we
could
potentially
replicate
from
other
cities,
and
the
panel
gave
a
brief
presentation
about
their
findings
in
May
and
recently
provided
a
more
detailed
written
report
which
you
have.
H
If
someone
asked
me
to
distill
this
report
down
to
four
words
and
what
it
means
to
me,
they
would
be
don't
stop
keep
going
and
what
I
mean
by
that
is
what
I
read
in
this
report
is
that,
in
general,
we're
on
the
right
track
with
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
produce
and
preserve,
affordable
housing
and
the
work
that
we're
doing
to
look
closely
at
the
relationship
between
land
use
and
affordability.
And
we
can.
We
can
continue
to
learn
and
grow
and
improve
our
approach.
H
The
recommendations
provided
by
the
panel
I've
lit
I've
provided
a
list
of
the
ones
I'm
going
to
cover
here.
I,
what
I'll
say
is
that
these
recommendations
are
diverse
and
reflect
the
various
areas
of
expertise
of
our
panelists
and
since
they
focus
on
a
wide
variety
of
topics
related
to
the
city's
housing
work.
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
welcome
questions
from
you
all
as
we
go,
so
that
they
don't
get
lost
as
we
change
topics
and,
of
course,
welcome
questions
at
the
end
as
well.
H
Okay,
so
one
of
the
first
recommendations
made
by
the
panel
was
that
the
city
published
a
five-year
housing
plan,
and
this
recommendation
was
part
of
a
broader
recommendation
about
focusing
our
attention
on
how
we
communicate
about
what
we're
doing
when
it
comes
to
housing.
Affordability,
aspects
of
the
recommended
plan
have
already
been
shared
publicly
so
when
the
panelists
talked
about
what
they
meant
by
a
five-year
housing
plan,
part
of
what
they
meant
are
things
that
we
have
already.
H
You
know
done
and
and
provided
publicly
things
like
data
around
housing
need
setting
goals
and
providing
updates
about
progress
made
toward
those
goals.
But
the
recommendation
from
the
panelists,
which
I
think
we
are
certainly
taking
very
much
into
account,
is
how
do
we
do
a
better
job
of
communicating
this
work?
So
one
of
the
things
that
they
recommended
that
we
are,
we
were
already
in
the
process
of
doing
and
will
continue
to
work
toward,
is
developing
a
public-facing
dashboard
that
would
provide
data
about
the
city's
housing
work,
as
well
as
information
about
specific
projects.
H
The
city
is
investing
in
to
anyone
any
member
of
our
community
who's
interested
in
that
information
and
we're
currently
looking
at
how
best
to
communicate
our
housing
work
beyond
that
dashboard,
including
what
that
more
comprehensive
five-year
housing
plan
might
look
like
what
it
would
need
to
include
in
order
to
be
most
relevant
and
helpful
to
our
community
members.
So
looking
forward
to
some
additional
work
on
that
front.
H
Okay,
the
next
area
was
really
around
building
and
maintaining
Partnerships,
and
this
is
an
important
one
for
us
to
focus
on,
because
I
think
all
of
you
more
than
most
people,
know
that
the
housing
affordability
challenges
we
Face
are
not
something
that
a
single
city
alone
is
capable
of
of
addressing.
H
Without
partnership
right
so
really
as
we
look
at
Partnerships
for
Solutions
looking
at
what
does
it
look
like
to
partner
with
our
state
and
federal
government
with
other
local
communities,
with
our
neighboring
cities,
with
non-profits
with
the
private
sector
and
with
our
larger
Community
with
residents,
and
one
of
the
suggestions
that
the
panel
particularly
called
out
was
the
creation
of
a
cabinet
of
key
decision
makers
and
they
identified
the
city
CCDC
and
the
Housing
Authority
as
potential
members
of
that
cabinet.
H
What
I'll
say
is
that
collaboration
between
those
agencies
currently
happens
in
an
informal
manner.
The
staff
within
those
agencies
work
very
closely
together
and
there's
quite
a
lot
of
collaboration
that
happens,
but
the
recommendation
from
the
panel
has
sparked
some
conversation
about
whether
there
would
be
benefit
in
a
more
structured
partnership
and
whether
those
are
indeed
the
players
that
would
make
the
most
sense
if
there
are
folks
missing.
That
would
be
missing
from
that
conversation.
What
that
would
look
like
so
again
spark
some
conversation
in
terms
of.
I
H
Based
on
that
conversation,
Madam
mayor
council,
member,
Holly,
Burton
I
think
that's
a
great
question
and
I
think
that's
that's.
Essentially
what
we're
asking
ourselves
is
yeah
would
it
be
essentially
a
regular
standing
meeting
where,
instead
of
us
talking
to
CCDC
and
us
talking
to
the
housing
authority
and
us
going
back
and
forth,
can
we
all
get
in
a
room
and
have
a
conversation
about
this
together?
H
One
of
the
things
that
when
we
had
folks
from
our
our
HUD
office,
come
to
visit
Boise
a
few
months
ago,
we
pulled
they
helped
us
to
pull
together
a
conversation
with
folks
who
work
on
housing
issues,
not
just
in
Boise
but
Idaho
wide,
and
there
were
many
in
that
room
who
were
kind
of
going.
Should
we
do
this
again,
you
know
what
does
it
look
like
for
us
to
to
coordinate
in
a
in
a
better
way
in
a
smarter
way,
and
is
that
a
monthly
meeting
and
who
creates
the
agenda
for
that
meeting?
H
And
so
these
are?
These
are
the
things
that
we're
we're
trying
to
work
through
and
I
mean
I'll
I'll,
just
say
open
to
open
to
suggestions
and
ideas
and
wanting
to
make
sure
that
any
solutions
we
do
create
are
really
responsive
to
actual
need
and
are
of
benefit
to.
Everyone
involved.
I
think
coming
back
to
this
piece
about
building
and
maintaining
Partnerships.
You
know.
H
Partnership
has
to
go
both
ways
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
work
on
our
relationships
with
with
other
entities
that
we're
doing
so
in
a
manner
that
is
mutually
beneficial
and
isn't
and
and
isn't
not
mutually
beneficial.
G
Not
a
mayor,
yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
Nikki
some
of
the
partners
that
I'm
thinking
would
be
ideal
to
be
a
part
of
something
like
this
is
Intermountain
for
housing,
Idaho,
legal
aid,
the
Idaho,
Human,
Rights
Commission,
something
I
don't
hear
often
discussed
about
this-
is
about
discrimination
in
housing
and
the
Fair
Housing
Act
I.
Think
it's
important
that
we
include
those
entities
that
focus
on
that.
I'm
also
wondering.
G
Are
we
when
we're
talking
about
housing?
Are
we
focusing
solely
on
renters
as
opposed
to
homeowners,
or
are
those
both
in
the
mix?
Yeah.
H
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
council
member.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
that
it
is
important
to
first
of
all
to
acknowledge
housing
discrimination
as
an
important
aspect
of
the
housing,
affordability
puzzle
and
the
housing
access
puzzle.
So
appreciate
those
comments,
and
certainly
those
groups
are,
are
some
that
we
engage
with
and
will
continue
to
and
in
terms
of
the
question
around
home
ownership
versus
renters.
For
the
purposes
of
this
report,
the
panel
didn't
make
a
distinction
between
the
two
and
I
think.
E
H
Yeah
Matt,
America,
council
member
I
think
that
that
is
a
very
a
very
good
question
and
one
of
the
things
that,
as
we're
mulling
over
this
report,
we
were
asking
ourselves
was
we.
We
think
that
we
have
a
very
strong
working
relationship
with
both
of
these
agencies
and
that
they
are
very
much
at
the
table.
You
know,
CCDC
has
been
very
much
involved
in
conversations
about
how
to
bring
housing
affordability
into
the
work
that
they
do
well.
D
I'll
just
interrupt
you.
There,
too
CCDC
has
been
involved
in
more
than
just
conversations:
they've
actually
funded
with
Tiff
funding
and
sought
out
opportunities
to
invest
in
affordable
housing
proposals
downtown
and
provided
additional
points
and
actually
requirements
in
rfps
for
affordability
and
whether
it
be
the
block
68
project.
The
project
at
17th
and
Idaho
work
that
they're
doing
with
us
on
Fairview
the
local
construct
project
and
others
that
they're
looking
at
right
now,
and
we
really
that's-
been
an
evolution
and
really
appreciate
that
partnership.
H
Thanks
Madam
mayor
and
I'll
just
add
that
when
we
saw
this
recommendation
in
the
report,
I
did
follow
up
with
some
of
the
panelists
to
ask
about
specifically
if
they
had
examples
for
things
that
other
urban
renewal
agencies
have
done,
that
were
different
than
what
CCDC
has
done.
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
to
you
know,
track
down
anything
in
the
conversations
I've
had
with
folks
with
any
kind
of
specificity.
H
So
I
think
that,
as
the
mayor
said,
there's
they've
done
an
incredible
amount
of
work
in
terms
of
bringing
housing
affordability
into
their
Central
mission.
One.
E
E
That
Boise
is
bearing
the
burden
of
a
lot
of
different
things
because
we're
taking
the
lead,
whether
it's
homelessness,
housing,
Transportation,
I'm,
wondering
as
as
we
talk
about
collaboration,
what
that
could
look
like
with
other
cities
that
aren't
doing
the
same
things
that
we're
doing
or
maybe
not
at
all,
and
how
we
can
get
others
to
help.
You
know
be
part
of
the
solution.
Do
you
have
any
ideas
on
that.
H
Sure
Madam
mayor
council
member
I'll
say
that
the
report
doesn't
speak
to
that
specifically
in
terms
of
other
ideas.
I
think
there
are
certainly
models
for
regional
Partnerships
in
which
multiple
cities
are
able
to
work
together
toward
housing,
affordability.
H
H
Okay,
next
up,
the
panel
spent
a
significant
amount
of
time
focused
on
the
increase,
the
need
for
an
increase
in
supply
of
permanent
Supportive
Housing
and
highlighted
three
areas
of
action.
In
order
to
make
that
happen,
so
one
of
them
was
a
focus
on
the
need
for
the
housing
authority
to
provide
rental
subsidies
to
for
permanent
Supportive
Housing
Development,
coordinating
with
the
state
on
a
Medicaid
waiver
to
cover
some
of
the
services
cost
and
the
creation
of
a
Supportive
Housing
investment
fund
to
cover
the
cost.
The
additional
remaining
costs
around
Supportive
Services.
H
So
there
is
work
underway
and
I
I
know
you
had
a
briefing
on
this
recently,
so
I
don't
want
to
belabor
the
point,
but
essentially
the
Housing
Authority
has
stated
their
intent
to
provide
rental
subsidies.
The
Medicaid
waiver
work
with
the
state
is
underway,
and
the
council
has
approved
the
proposed
seven
and
a
half
million
funding
for
a
Supportive
Housing
investment
fund.
H
We
need
the
Department
of
Health
and
Welfare,
we
need
the
city
and
we
also
need
others
to
contribute
to
that
Supportive,
Housing
investment
fund
and
so
really
looking
at
this
as
an
example
of
where
we've
got
some
partnership
wheels
under
us,
and
we
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
continue
that
work
and
to
think
about
other
ways
in
which
our
Partnerships
can
help
us
to
achieve
our
goals.
H
The
next
one
is
focused
on
coordinating
land
use
and
housing.
Some
of
the
examples
that
the
panel
gave
were
around
increasing
density
and
strategic
locations,
incentivizing
long-term,
affordable
housing,
expanding
missing
middle
typologies
and
what
I'll
say
is
that
these
recommendations
are
largely
reflected
in
the
current
draft
of
the
zoning
code,
rewrite
the
panels.
Recommendation
really
was
focused
on
making
sure
that,
as
we
look
at
land
use,
we're
doing
so
with
the
lens
of
housing,
affordability
and
a
sort
of
minor
subset
of
that
had
to
do
with
a
recommendation
around
exempting
building
permit
fees.
H
This
is
something
the
city
of
Austin
has
done
on:
affordable
housing
developments,
city
of
Boise
already
exempts
impact
fees,
so
we've
had
some
conversation
internally
around
whether
that's
something
on
the
legal
side
that
we
feel
comfortable
with
whether
it's
something
that
is
implementable
from
the
you
know,
building
permitting
side
and
where,
where
that
current
currently
stands,
is
that
the
budget
Implement
Implement
excuse
me
implications
would
need
to
be
explored
in
order
to
right
size,
a
fee
discount
or
exemption.
E
E
My
question
is:
is
it's
one
thing
to
say:
we've
checked
the
box
like
we're
doing
that
and
it's
another
thing
to
say:
we're
going
the
distance
and
we're
doing
all
that
we
can
and
I'm
curious-
and
this
is
probably
another
conversation-
is
there
more
that
we
should
be
doing
that
we're
not
in
that
zoning
code
like
we
might
have
touched
on
it,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
we've
taken
all
the
flexibility
that
we
can
and
so
I'd
just
be
curious
to
know
what
those
things
are,
as
we
think
about
this
from
a
lens
of
how
do
we
drive
the
market
to
do
more
of
this
versus?
H
Sure
man
and
mayor
accounts,
member,
thank
you.
I'll,
say
that,
as
you
mentioned,
this
report
came
out
before
the
revised
module
to
modules
one
and
two
of
the
zoning
code
rewrite
were
published,
and
so
it
doesn't
go
into
any
kind
of
detail
about
our
specific
draft
zoning
code.
Rewrite
and
I
would
defer
to
the
zoning
code
rewrite
team
on
whether
there
is
more
that
can
be
done
there
since
they're
the
ones
who
have
very
much
been
on
the
Wii
in
the
Weeds
on
that
and.
D
H
Great
another
issue
area
that
the
panel
focused
on
was
around
preserving
affordability.
One
of
the
recommendations
was
to
extend
our
affordability
periods,
and
the
panel
spoke
specifically
about
requiring
affordability
periods
of
50
to
99
years,
so
just
for
context,
Our
Land,
Trust
properties
have
75-year
affordability
periods,
we're
currently
exploring
whether
a
50
plus
year
affordability
period
is
possible
for
other
projects
with
City
funds.
The
panel
did
note
that
there
are
affordable.
H
So
that
was
something
that
we
certainly
are
going
to
continue
to
look
at,
and
then
the
panel
also
suggested
exploring
additional
funding
sources.
So
they
mentioned
a
housing
impact
fund
which
we've
discussed
before
so
an
update
on
that
that
work
is
underway.
We've
got
the
market
analysis
from
the
Forsyth
Street
advisors
expected
to
complete,
be
complete
by
January
of
2023.
H
So,
looking
forward
to
being
back
with
a
more
specific
update
about
that
then
and
the
other
funding
sources
that
they
mentioned
will
be
explored
in
partnership
with
our
development
Partners,
who
will
where,
with
any
of
the
funding
sources,
we'll
need
to
take
a
lead
role
in
in
that
further
exploration.
H
Okay,
so
that's
the
full
list
and
I
know
it's
again:
it's
a
diverse
list
and
it
goes
in
a
lot
of
different
directions,
which
I
think
is
maybe
not
abnormal
when
it
comes
to
the
housing,
affordability,
conversation
and
I
do
think
that
we
really
benefited
from,
as
I
said,
a
diverse
group
of
panelists
who
had
expertise
in
some
very
different
areas.
I
Better
Mary,
first
Nikki,
thank
you
and,
and
thank
you
for
sending
the
report
over
it's
it's
pretty
in-depth.
It's
pretty
long.
So
it's
nice
to
have
you
be
able
to
summarize
it,
but
also
it
was
really
cool
to
kind
of
check
into
some
of
those
details.
I
I
Wonder
if
there's
a
similar
approach
when
it
comes
to
our
housing
like
we
know
how
much
housing
our
community
needs
as
a
whole
and
we're
creating
a
dashboard
for
the
city
of
Boise
is
contributing
all
these
different
types
of
units
and
it
sure
would
be
nice
to
know
what
other
neighboring
cities
like
council,
member,
wallets
brought
up
are
doing
to
kind
of
address
those
numbers,
because
if
50
gets
added
in
Garden
City,
that's
a
win
for
Boise,
you
know
as
well.
I
It
might
just
be
across
State
Street
on
one
side
versus
the
other,
and
so
that
that's
interesting
to
me
just
to
think
about
knowing
how
much
we're
putting
out
there
and
contributing
and
knowing
how
much
other
cities
maybe
are
as
well
and
I
guess.
The
second
part
of
that
this
is
more
of
a
comment
than
a
question.
I
guess
is
that
when
we're
looking
at
our
dashboard
and
we're
looking
at
these
different
units,
I
think
it'd
be
really
nice
to
know.
I
What's
the
so
like,
if
we've
created
this
many
housing
and
it's
on
our
dashboard,
how
many
of
these
things
resulted
from
this
policy
versus
this
policy
versus
this
policy?
So
we
can
tell
like
what's
effective,
and
maybe
some
of
these
neighboring
communities
can
tell
like
here's
actually
something
that
city
of
Boise
worked.
I
Maybe
it
was
the
building
permit
fees
that
actually
drove
this
amount
of
stuff,
and
maybe
this
was
the
housing
bonus,
bonus
thing
that
drove
this
amount
of
stuff,
so
you
can
actually
tell
which
strategies
are
getting
the
impact,
but
again
I
really
appreciate
it,
and
you
know
I
would
really
be
excited.
Like
council
member
Willets
said
to
figure
out
how
some
of
our
efforts
could
drive
some
of
our
neighboring
communities
to
adopt
some
similar
things.
C
Thank
you,
Nikki
I
I
have
a
question
around,
so
this
is
a
list
of
things
that
the
city
can
do,
which
I
think
is
great
and
it
makes
it
really
actionable
for
us
did
and
I'm
sorry
I
haven't
read
the
report
I've
been
out
of
town,
but
was
there
anything
around
kind
of
adjacencies
to
what
the
city
can
do
so
maybe
some
things
that
the
market
could
pick
up,
maybe
some
things
that
private
business
could
pick
up.
One
of
those
things
that
immediately
comes
to
mind
is
on
the
permanent
Supportive
Housing
side.
C
What,
if
you
know
there
are
private
property
owners
who
rent
to
low-income
renters
and
want
some
supportive
services
for
their
tenants
as
well?
Was
there
anything
like
that
that
was
included
in
the
report
at
all.
H
So
trying
to
think
through,
this
report
really
focused
in
on
what
can
the
city
be
doing
and
as
discussed
on
the
page
about
building
and
maintaining
Partnerships,
we
can't
be
the
only
ones
in
the
room
and
to
councilmember
willetson
Holly
Burton's
comments:
how
how
what
does
partnership
look
like
and
how
do
we?
H
How
do
we
work
with
folks
in
our
community,
whether
they're,
our
neighboring
communities
or
the
business
Community
or
whoever
it
is?
Who
for
by
and
large,
we
have
many
members
of
our
community
who
are
saying
okay?
What's
my
Lane,
how
do
I
Define
my
lane,
and
so
that's
something
that
we
I
think
I
think
we'll
continue
to
have
conversation
around,
and
it
is
particularly
I
think,
with
with
the
messiness
of
partnership,
I
think
it
can
be
tempting
to
focus
only
on
ourselves
and
going
okay.
Well,
we'll
we'll.
H
What
can
we
will
we'll
exempt
the
building?
Permit
fees?
Okay,
that's
something,
and
that
is
something
and
it's
something
you
know
we
should
have
our
own
house
in
order,
and
we
should
be
doing
everything
internally,
that
we
can
do
absolutely
and
in
order
to
actually
make
change
here,
we
need
to
be
in
partnership
with
others,
even
when
it's
hard
and
messy
and
so
really
digging
in
deeply
into
what
that
looks
like
at
this
point
in
time,
I
think
is
going
to
be
really
important.
C
Yeah
I
really
appreciate
that,
because
I
do
think
that,
yes,
we
there
are
things
that
only
we
can
do,
but
I
think
that
there
are
some
other
things
where
we
can
help
to
build
capacity
in
the
community
in
the
private
sector.
To
do
some
of
those
things
as
well,
so
I
would
encourage
us
to
always
be
looking
for
those
opportunities,
like
you
said,
even
when
they're
hard
and
messy
not.
G
A
mayor
speaking
of
hard
and
messy
it's
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
bring
these
things
up,
but
I
realize
it's
a
situation,
that's
bigger
than
me
as
an
individual
as
I
read
through
the
list
of
people
involved
in
this,
you
know,
I
had
to
wonder
why
they
only
renter
on
the
Boise
city
council
wasn't
invited
to
be
a
part
of
this.
Why
the
only
person
of
color
on
the
Boise
city
council
wasn't
a
part
of
this.
Why
somebody
who
lost
their
home
to
foreclosure
in
2010?
G
Wasn't
a
part
of
this
I
just
want
to
have
that
on
record.
That
I
think
the
people
who
sent
me
here
again
in
2021
wanted
that
perspective
on
this
and
I
know.
That's
not
on
you
Nikki,
but
I.
Think
it's
important
to
say
that
you
know
we
have.
We
have
those
perspectives
here
wanting
to
share
that
information.
G
I
I
mentioned
the
Idaho
legal
aid,
and
I
mentioned
the
Human
Rights
Commission
I
mentioned
Intermountain
for
housing.
I
worked
for
a
quasi-non-profit
state
agency
called
the
Idaho
volunteer
lawyers
program.
It's
all
housing,
it's
all
dealing
with
social
issues
that
affect
people's
ability
to
retain
their
housing
moving
forward.
I
would
like
to
just
say
to
the
mayor
to
my
colleagues
that
I
would
like
to
be
a
part
of
these
conversations,
not
just
for
me
not
for
my
ego,
but
because
I
believe
that
that
is
why
people
want
me
at
this.
G
Deus
in
this
organization
is
to
give
that
kind
of
input.
I,
don't
know
how
I
access
space
in
those
rooms
all
I
can
do
is
just
say
that
in
public,
so
that
it's
acknowledged
that,
if
I'm
not
in
those
rooms,
it's
not
because
I
don't
want
to
be
and
I
think.
My
colleagues
I
think
the
mayor
for
your
work
on
this,
but
I
would
like
to
register
that
publicly.
D
Known
I
appreciate
that
and
I
just
want
to
make
clear
that
this
was
not
something
that
was
organized
by
Nikki
or
staff,
but
it
was
organized
by
an
outside
panel.
So
I
appreciate
your
your
statement
and
your
interest
in
being
involved,
and
we
register
that.
D
G
D
Thinking,
oh,
thank
you,
I'm,
not
saying
you're.
Being
disrespectful,
I
just
want
to
make
clear
that
this
wasn't
Nikki's
role.
I
H
Madam
mayor
council
member
thanks
for
that
question,
this
will
be
they've
concluded
their
recommendations.
The
panel
has
gone
back
to
their
regular
jobs
across
the
country,
but
this
is
something
that's
going
to
be
highlighted
at
the
Uli
at
their
fall
and
annual
meeting
I
guess
semi-annual.
Since
it's
the
fall,
so
it's
something
that
there's
going
to
be.
There
will
be
a
session
on
it.
There
has
also
been
some
interest
from
other
National
organizations
focused
on
land
use
and
affordability.
H
In
the
report,
we've
heard
just
anecdotally
that
our
local
uoi
has
received
a
lot
of
questions
and
interest
from
from
others
in
particular
in
potentially
replicating
something
like
this
in
other
cities.
It's
an
unusual,
a
way
for
them
to
use
this
model.
Usually
it's
very
focused
on
a
specific
location.
So,
like
the
county,
did
a
technical
assistance
panel
on
what
do
we
do
with
you
know
the
lebois
race
track
so
usually
focused
on
a
specific
parcel
or
a
very
a
specific
neighborhood.
H
So
to
do
it
focused
more
on
the
policy
side
is
something
that
is
different
for
them
and
I.
Think
it's
been
a
it's
been
an
interesting
kind
of
opportunity
to
learn
about
how
that
could
be
done
in
the
future
and
other
places.
So
I'd
say
for
us
it
might
be
the
period,
but
hopefully
it'll
help
to
be
part
of
some.
Some
other
larger
conversations
awesome.
H
E
Hi
mayor,
do
you
have
time
for
one
more
Nikki,
two
things
while
I
guess
it's
two?
Is
the
Medicaid
waiver,
a
sure
thing
or
do
we
need
to
do
some
more
work
with
the
state.
E
We'll
I'll
follow
up
with
you
on
that
separately
and
then,
secondarily,
you
know
we're
I
talked
about
this
last
week.
We're
we're
a
unique
unicorn
in
all
of
this,
because
we're
a
largely
rural
state
that
has
had
a
massive
influx.
You
know
from
a
coveted
tsunami
that
was,
you
know
we
were
growing
before.
Are
there
any
other
states
that
we
can
learn
from
that?
Had
similar
experience?
You
know
five
six
years
ago
had
affordability
issues
but
not
like
today.
H
Mad
America,
council
member
I
think
that's
a
really
great
question
and
I
think
it's
something
as
we.
What
I'll
say
is
that
we're
interested
in
learning
from
anyone.
We
can
and
I
think
that
pardon
my
metaphor,
but
sometimes
I
think
about
it.
A
little
bit
like
having
a
baby
that
when
you
have
a
newborn
and
you've
got
somebody
who
has
a
teenager
and
you're
asking
them
for
advice.
They
can't
remember
what
it
was
like
when
they
had
a
newborn
they're
like
it's
gonna.
H
So
when
we
talk
to
folks
from
other
cities
who
have
been
struggling
with
these
issues
for
decades,
they're
in
a
different
place
than
we
are
because
they've
had
decades
to
evolve
a
conversation
to
get
folks
on
the
same
page,
to
try
things
to
fail
to
try
again
right
and
so
in
order
to,
we
want
to
learn
from
them,
because,
obviously
the
people
with
the
teenagers
survived
the
thing
right,
but
also
sometimes
it
can
be
really
helpful
to
talk
to
somebody,
maybe
with
a
toddler
who
might
remember
some
of
what
happened
and
have
some
helpful
advice
or
even
other
people
with
infants
who
can
kind
of
commiserate
about
the
challenges
of
the
stage
that
we
are
currently
at.
H
Not
to
compare
us
all.
The
babies,
although
I
I,
just
did
so
I
mean
I.
Think
that
we're
you
know
recently
this
this
coming
week,
we're
going
to
be
in
some
conversation
with
some
City
housing
manager
from
Bend
Oregon.
That's
another
area
that
you
know
has
had
really
significant
growth
postcovid,
although
a
different
political
environment,
we
have
I
think
had
some
some
interesting
work
come
out
of
out
of
Austin,
but
that
is
which
is
another.
H
You
know
with
kovid
saw
a
really
big
boom,
but
they
are
also
in
a
very
different
environment.
I
mean
they
passed.
I
think
it
was
a
250
million
dollar
housing
Bond
four
years
ago,
they're
going
back
again
for
another
350
million
dollars
at
the
ballot.
This
November
so
I
mean
when
you
talk
about
the
the
differences
between
between
municipalities
that
are
dealing
with
the
same
kinds
of
issues,
yeah
they're.
H
H
It's
all
going
to
have
to
be
part
of
part
of
the
ongoing
work
that
we're
doing,
and
so
you
know
this
report
is
one
of
many
many
ways
in
which
we
can
learn
from
others
and
refine.
What
we're
doing
and
it's
it
provides
some
great
recommendations,
but
it's
in
no
way.
You
know
the
end-all
be-all
of
of
guidance.
I
guess
thank.
E
C
You
madamir
I
would
like
to
hereby
nominee
Nikki
helenkamp
as
the
queen
of
metaphors,
because
she
has
some
incredible
metaphors
that
add
a
lot
of
clarity
around
very
complicated
topics,
and
this
is
only
the
latest
example
of
that.
So
thanks
Nikki,
no.