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From YouTube: Boise City Council - Work Session
Description
Tuesday June 7, 2022 at 3:30 PM MDT
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A
We
had
at
the
pools,
which
I
attended
and
they're
the
windiest
rainiest
weirdest
days
possible,
but
many
people
stopped
by
and
I
gotta
say
I
really
enjoyed
talking
with
folks
but
also
being
back
in
the
pools
and
at
lowell,
in
particular,
kind
of
weeding
my
way
through
cobwebs,
to
look
at
the
pictures
of
swim
team.
That
might
that
my
kids
were
part
of
too,
but
but
thanks
for
joining
us
today,
and
for
this
update.
D
Thank
you,
madam
mayor
council
members.
That
was
the
only
two
days
we
had
rain.
I
think
the
entire
month,
where
the
two
days
we
picked
to
have
the
open
house
at
south
and
lowell
pools.
So,
as
madame
mayor
mentioned,
we
are
here
today
to
present
to
you
essentially
an
executive
summary
of
the
final
report
that
has
been
compiled
by
our
team
and
our
consultant
with
agnew
beck,
and
we
will
be.
This
is
going
to
be
a
little
as
amanda
just
said,
clunky,
since
we're
not
getting
it
on
our
screen
here,.
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B
D
Gives
you
a
snapshot
map
of
where
all
of
your
public
pools
are
located
that
are
in
our
inventory,
in
parks
and
recreation?
We
also
include
the
boise
city
aquatic
center,
which
is
located
in
the
west
boise
ymca,
which
is
a
public
pool
owned
by
the
city
of
boise,
but
managed
by
the
by
the
ymca
team.
The
other
six
pools
in
our
inventory
are
owned
and
managed
by
your
parks
and
recreation
department.
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So
just
to
give
you
a
feel
of
where
they're
located,
you
see
both
the
two
pools
we'll
be
talking
about
today,
our
south
and
low
pool
and
amanda.
If
you
could
advance
please
so
to
give
you
a
quick
background,
we've
been
here
before
both
myself
and
our
project
manager
from
public
works,
sean
wilson,
so
you're
pretty
familiar
with
the
state
of
the
two
pools.
As
you're
aware
they
were
built
in
1953.
They
were
unique.
Architectural
design
referred
to
as
the
bins
design.
D
They
have
a
very
cool
and
unique
art
deco
entryway.
There
are
some
17
or
18.
I've
heard
conflicting
numbers
still
standing
across
the
country,
but
only
a
small
handful
and
again
conflicting
numbers.
I've
heard
as
few
as
as
six
and
as
many
as
eight
that
are
still
operational
and
two
of
those
that
are
semi-operational
are
still
here
located
here
in
boise.
They
are
a
unique
feature
in
that
they
are
a
double
deck
type
of
of
a
structure,
so
the
pool
itself
is
above
ground
all
the
locker
rooms
and
restroom
space
is
below
ground.
D
So
the
condition
of
the
pools
as
our
project
manager
from
public
works.
Sean
wilson
explained
earlier
this
year.
We
closed
all
six
pools
during
covid19.
We
were
able
to
open
four
pools
last
summer,
but
did
not
open
south
and
lowell,
and
the
reason
was
we
took
that
opportunity
during
the
closure
for
kovid
to
do
some
code
assessments
and
ada
assessments,
and
when
those
reports
came
back,
which
again,
I
think,
you've
seen.
D
Those
reports
did
reveal
some
significant
deficiencies
and
safety
issues
that
precluded
us
from
reopening
those
pools
until
those
could
be
brought
up
to
code
to
remind
council.
We
do
have
capital
dollars
available
in
our
2024
and
2025
budget.
You
see
the
number
3.32
million
is
set
for
low
pool
in
24,
and
3.25
million
is
earmarked
for
improvements
to
south
in
2025..
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As
we
progress
through
this
presentation,
council
mata
mayor
council
members
you'll
see
that
we're
looking
at
a
cost
significantly
higher
than
those
two
budget
numbers.
So
those
are
issues
right
at
the
top
of
of
the
list
that
we're
going
to
have
to
contend
with,
as
we
get
closer
to
doing
something
different
at
both
sides,
starting
in
2024.
D
So
when
we
began
this
outreach
process
which
we
started
in
november
of
21,
we
did
set
some
goals.
Three
primary
goals
that
we
wanted
to
accomplish
during
this
outreach
process-
and
one
was
number
one-
was
to
identify
public
priorities
what's
important
to
our
citizens.
In
regards
to
these
two
pools,
number
two
was
just
listen
and
learn
from
the
public.
You
know
what
what
do
these
two
pools
mean
to
the
public?
D
How
important
are
they
to
the
public,
both
in
terms
of
understanding
both
historical
as
well
as
nostalgic
considerations,
but
also
taking
into
account
neighborhood
location?
You
know
geographic
location
of
these
two
pools
as
they
are
both
neighborhood
based.
So
we
wanted
to
hear
what
was
most
important
from
the
public
as
our
second
outreach
goal,
and
our
third
was
to
create
options
and
recommendations
for
you.
D
We
started
back
in
november
assembling
a
stakeholder
group
that
is
made
up
of,
and
you
see
the
the
different
participants,
but
we
wanted
to
get
you
know:
neighborhoods
neighborhood
associations
we
wanted
preservationists.
We
wanted
users,
we
wanted
members
from
the
cross,
disability
task
force
to
be
involved
since
ada
requirements
on
these
two
pools
are
deficient,
and
we
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
looking
at
groups
around
the
community
that
might
not
otherwise
have
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
on
what
we
are
going
to
do
with
south
and
low
pools.
D
So
such
as
you
know,
for
example,
we
sent
in
the
next
bullet
point.
Where
talk
about
our
surveys.
We
sent
surveys
to
apartment
complexes,
for
example
within
a
half
mile
radius
of
each
of
those
locations.
We've
reached
out
to
our
refugee
organization
communities
to
get
those
surveys
into
their
hands.
D
So
we
we
really
did
look
at
how
we
can
make
the
engagement
process
first
and
foremost
as
accessible
as
we
possibly
can,
and
I
again
stand
before
you
today
that
this
is
a
this
is
the
most
thorough
engagement
that
we
have
ever
taken
on
in
anything
in
our
department.
You
see
the
survey
results.
We
got
a
tremendous
response,
almost
oh,
actually,
over
4
000,
total
responses
between
the
two
pools
and
that's
pretty
amazing.
D
What
it
does
show,
though,
is
that
there
is
a
unique
interest
in
in
what
is
being
proposed
at
these
two
locations.
We
did,
as
madam
mayor
mentioned,
had
two
open
houses
in
april,
and
we
had
really
good
turnout
for
pouring
rain
on
both
days
and
and
the
most
of
the
people
that
we
saw
were
wide,
ranging
from
youth
to
teens
to
a
lot
of
our
mature
adult
population
that
have
grown
up
in
these
pools
had
learned
to
swim
in.
D
D
These
two
really
serve
the
the
the
needs
of
the
neighborhoods
they're,
located
in
again
heard
a
lot
from
constituents
that
they
their
children
bike
and
walk,
in
fact
that
the
number
one
mode
of
transportation
to
both
of
these
pools
in
the
survey
was
biking
and
walking.
So
again
that
tells
us
that
these
are
strong
neighborhood-based
fabric
based
recreational
amenities
for
the
neighborhoods.
D
The
second
key
finding
is,
above
above
and
beyond
everything
they
want
an
accessible
pool
for
their
neighborhood,
and
so
that
was
really
important,
that
it's
a
pool
that
will
serve
everyone,
and
obviously
you
know
creating
a
city
for
everyone
means
creating
accessibility
for
everyone.
So
obviously
that's
top
of
mind
for
you,
madam
mayor
and
council
members
as
well,
we
did
propose.
Do
you
want
to
see
anything
else
here?
Besides
a
swimming
pool-
and
it
was-
I
know
we
put
in
here-
the
word
generally-
we
could
take
that
word
out.
D
We
we've
heard
from
constituents
all
over
the
community
that
that
may
have
never
even
been
to
either
of
these
pools,
but
have
chimed
in
to
say
you
know
this
is
a
unique
piece
of
history.
We
need
to
try
to
preserve
it,
and
so
that
was
fairly
loud
and
clear
in
the
report
that
that
that
our
consultant
has
completed.
D
So
the
there'll
be
a
couple
of
options
that
we're
going
to
be
presented
to
you
today,
and
I
will
be
turning
it
over
here
in
just
a
second
to
sean
wilson,
our
project
manager,
but
as
I've
mentioned,
the
renovation
based
approach
was
generally
supported,
more
so
throughout
the
the
engagement
process,
more
so
than
building
a
new
pool
and
obviously
the
historic
and
unique
elements
of
the
pool
rise
to
the
top.
As
a
reason
for
that
that
feeling
from
your
constituents,
the
entryway
to
this
to
these
pools
are
very
unique
as
well.
D
D
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to
turn
it
over
to
sean
wilson,
who
will
go
through
two
options
that
came
really
loud
and
clear
from
our
constituents
and
a
little
bit
of
background
on
what
would
be
included
in
these
two
options
and
we're
a
long
ways
away
from
obviously
having
complete
details
of
the
design
and
sean
will
go
into
that,
as
well
as
an
exact
cost
of
that
design,
which
you'll
also
have
do
some
discussion
on
as
well.
So
I'd
like
to
turn
over
to
sean
wilson
from
our
public
works
department,.
E
E
So
when
you
look
at
the
like
the
range
on
the
numbers
and
the
level
of
accuracy,
you
know
minus
50,
plus
100,
it
looks
pretty
substantial
and
that
really
is
in
cost
estimating
world
you
go
from
zero
to
100
design
when
you're
actually
getting
bids
and
we're
only
a
couple
percent
into
that
process.
So
it's
pretty
pretty
wide
ranges
at
this
point.
E
There's
also
the
potential
for
some
fatal
flaw,
type
critical
information,
so,
in
particular
the
case
of
south
the
site
is
very
restricted,
so
there'll
be
a
lot
of
work
to
do
with
planning
departments
getting
variances
that
sort
of
thing
so
we're
showing
these
and
kind
of,
as
you
tease
into
them.
You
learn
more
of
that
information
as
the
design
progresses
for
the
first
option.
Renovating
the
polls,
what
we
looked
at
is
kind
of
adding
we're,
bringing
everything
up
to
code.
E
E
I
think
it
came
out
to
like
between
4
and
4.5,
but
we
haven't
looked
at
it's
sort
of
like
the
next
step
would
be
looking
at
the
trim
model.
You
know,
do
we
add
a
lot
of
seating
or
is
their
stage
area
those
sorts
of
things?
So
the
range
is
there
to
kind
of
cover
hey.
You
know
as
we
go
through
this,
there
could
be
additions
to
this
option.
E
Perfect,
the
second
option
we
looked
at
is
hey
what
if
we
had
a
clean
slate
and
then
we
put
in
kind
of
a
modern
sort
of
current
facility
and
again
this
could
take
any
shape.
It
could
be.
A
four
lane
could
be
a
six
lane
could
be,
you
know,
different
types
of
features,
but
we
tried
to
look
at
what
would
if
we
maximize
the
use
of
the
site.
What
would
it
look
like
in
this
case?
E
This
pretty
much
is
completely
modern,
so
six
lane
regulatory
lanes,
you
know
for
swim,
lessons,
zero
depth,
diving
board
kind
of
pretty
much
every
feature
a
modern
pool
would
have
and
of
course,
locker
rooms
showers,
those
social
things.
What
else?
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out.
I
guess
on
the
cost
on
this
one,
it
is
in
the
higher
end
of
this
range.
E
E
D
Thank
you
sean
appreciate
that
so
one
thing
I
didn't
I
failed
to
mention
is:
I
did
give
you
hard
copies
and
I'm
sure
you've
all
seen
those
in
case
you
couldn't
see
clearly
on
here,
so
you
could
get
a
feel
of
what
those
two
options
might
end
up.
Looking
like
so
the
direction
that
we
are
looking
for
is
based
upon
a
number
of
factors,
but,
first
and
foremost
from
that
engagement
process.
D
We
did
hear
loud
and
clear
both
in
terms
of
of
the
engagement
that
we
have
been
that
has
been
conducted
in
terms
of
the
survey
as
well
as
the
open
houses
as
well
as
there's
been
a
lot
of
interaction
between
the
public
and
our
department
with
the
public.
You
know
just
expressing
what
their
concerns
are
and
what
they
want
to
see.
D
D
So
my
job
was
to
deliver
those
two
options
to
you
and
as
not
only
the
decision
makers
on
this,
but
I
do
need
to
point
out
that,
if,
regardless
of
what
option
we
go
with,
we
do
have
a
budget
issue
at
3.25
and
3.23
are
the
two
numbers
that
we
have
to
work
with
and
going
back
to
what
sean
just
mentioned.
So
we're
a
full
on
option,
one
million
and
a
half
at
least
off,
of
what
we
would
need
in
today's
dollars.
D
Sean
and
his
team
escalate
those
numbers,
I'm
guessing
they're
gonna,
be
a
little
bit
higher
and
on
option
two
that'd
be
I'm
guessing
significantly
higher.
So
I
just
wanna
make
sure
that
I
continue
to
point
that
out
that
we
don't
have
the
budget
right
now
to
to
get
this
design
done
and
get
these
pools
started
in
24,
without
council
figuring
out
how
that
funding
is
going
to
going
to
come
into
play.
D
D
Then
sean
and
his
team
will
go
back
and
start
tightening
up
those
numbers
and
into
the
next
steps,
and
we
will
keep
mayor
and
council
formed
as
we
pull
that
information
together
on
on
what
the
details
are
starting
to
look
like,
so
we
can
plan
on
what
the
plans
would
be
in
24
and
25..
So
again
I
will.
I
will
pause
for
any
questions.
Madam
mayor
or
council
members
that
you
may
have.
F
I
know
that
this
was
a
huge
undertaking
and
that
the
weather
was
not
in
your
favor
at
all
times,
and
so
I
think
it's
really
impressive
how
much
input
you
were
able
to
get,
and
you
already
answered
one
of
my
questions
that
I
must
have
overlooked
in
the
report,
which
was
the
ada
community,
was
involved
in
the
kind
of
focus
group
piece
of
this,
which
I
think
is
great
and
one
of
the
things
that
kept
sticking
out
to
me.
As
I
was
reading,
the
report
was
accessibility.
F
D
Madam
mayor
council,
member
woodings,
so
if
you're
familiar
with
ivy
wild
pool,
that
has
a
zero
depth,
so
you
literally
come
into
the
pool
and
it's
inches
deep
and
then,
as
you
move
through
the
pool,
it
gradually
gets
a
little
bit
deeper,
but
there's
no
drop
off
it
slowly
gets
down.
And
then,
when
you
get
to
the
deep
end,
you
have
to
drop
off,
and
so
it's
very
accommodating
to
all
skill
levels.
D
D
Both
of
these
pools
currently
have
that
three
foot
shallow
end
so
and-
and
I
probably
bring
shawn
back
up
but
to
get
the
zero
depth
we
would
need
a
larger
runway
and
we'd
have
to
expand
the
footprint
of
the
pool
and
get
a
larger
runway
to
get
that
type
of
a
depth
before
you
would
get
into
the
deep
end
of
the
pool
and
so
number
one
footprint
will
be
a
consideration
and
an
issue
to
do
that.
Number.
Two
and
probably
more
importantly,
not
more
importantly,
but
certainly
as
important
is
a
cost.
F
D
Madam
mayor
council,
council
member
wood
is
correct,
but
also
keep
in
mind
the
footprint.
We
only
have
we
own
the
property
that
both
pools
are
located
on,
so
the
dirt
underneath
belongs
to
the
city,
but
all
the
surrounding
area
does
not,
and
so
at
low.
We
have
a
little
larger
footprint
that
we
can
work
with,
but
that
footprint
is
really
going
to
accommodate
the
building
of
the
locker
rooms
and
shower
facilities
and
restroom
facilities
on
the
back
part
of
the
pool.
F
D
Madam
mayor
council,
member
that
detail,
we
don't
have
as
to
what
the
cost
cost
differential
would
be
if
you,
if
we
went
with
a
zero
depth
design
and
then
keeping
in
mind
heavy
the
footprint
approval,
to
be
able
to
expand
that.
So,
if
we
had
that
in
place,
then
our
project
manager
could
run
those
numbers
and
see
how
much
additional
cost
that
would
apply
and
I
believe
it's
doable.
D
A
I
go
any
further
yeah.
He
wants
to
add
to
that
I'll
jump
in
here
and
ask
a
different
question
related
to
this
right
now,
with
these
drawings
that
we're
seeing,
I
know,
they're
not
real
plans,
but
it's
you're
not
anticipating
doing
zero
depth.
If
we
keep
the
low
and
south
footprint
as
it
is
correct,.
F
B
D
F
D
I
think,
if
you
talk
to
a
lot
of
parents
in
the
community,
they
their
children
learn
to
swim
in
another
location,
once
they're
a
little
bit
older,
then
they
come
back
and
they
swim
at
these
locations
once
they
learn
that
that
three
foot
depth
they
can
handle
that
we
heard
that
a
lot
from
a
lot
of
our
constituents.
But
yes,
I
apologize
for
the
confusion,
no
zero
depth
on
this
when
three
feet
is
our
shallow
end
at
what
we'd
be
proposing
if
it
was
a
new
pool?
F
Great
and
then
my
next
question
is
kind
of
like
because
I've
grown
up
in
old
houses,
and
I
know
that,
even
when
you
renovate
an
old
house,
it's
never
quite
up
to
snuff
in
some
ways
as
a
new
house
would
be
like
you,
your
maintenance
costs
are
still
higher,
even
if
you've
renovated
an
old
house
than
it
would
be
on
a
new
house.
So
tell
me
a
little
bit
more
about
that
like
if
we
were
to
renovate
these
pools.
D
E
Mayor
council
members,
the
the
numbers
and
what
we're
looking
at
is
to
really
do
it
right
and
bring
it
up
all
the
way.
So
you
know
contingency
for
the
concrete
when
we
do
take
care
of
some
of
these
older
assets
like
we
do
with
fire
station
six,
we
do
it
in
a
way
to
plan
to
get
decades
of
time
out
of
it.
So
we
estimate
to
get
those
decades
of
time
and
I
would
anticipate
o
m
to
be
about
the
same
between
the
two
options.
C
Doug,
I
guess
I'm
not
a
swimming
pool
guy
and
I
don't
have
kids
who
are
learning
to
swim,
and
so
it's
not
it's
not
a
place.
I
go.
I
guess
the
main
question
I
have
is
which
of
these
two
options
is
most
useful
to
the
greatest
number
of
people
in
the
public,
like
which
one
would
be
most
used
by
the
most
number
of
people.
D
Madam
mayor
councilman,
member
of
agent,
it's
a
tough
one
to
answer
because,
anytime
you
build
a
new
pool,
it
becomes
the
hot
new
feature
recreation
feature,
so
we
do
see
like,
for
example,
if
you
go
back
to
1998
and
saw
when
we
opened
ivy
wild
pool,
it
went
through
the
roof
and
those
numbers
you
know
kind
of
leveled
off
and
it
became
but
a
pool
like
ivy,
wild
and
the
natatorium
are
destination.
Pools
they're,
like
regional.
D
These
are
more
neighborhood
based
and
even
with
a
new
pool
there,
it's
still
a
small
footprint.
It's
not
like
we're
going
to
be
able
to
accommodate.
You
know
three
four
five
hundred
more
users
per
hour
at
this
pool
because
of
the
footprint,
so
the
number
of
visitors
will
certainly
go
up
if
it's
a
newer
pool,
if
it's
a
new
brand
new
pool,
I'm
guessing
but
as
far
as
significant,
I
think
it's
it's
probably
negligible
in
the
long
run,
simply
because
they're
just
neighborhood
based
smaller
type
pools.
C
D
Madam
mayor
council,
member
agent,
yeah
the
the
plus
or
minus
fifty
percent
to
plus
a
hundred
percent.
If
you
went
with
a
new
pool
at
the
high
end,
which
sean
had
mentioned,
that
rebuild
is
probably
closer
to
that
five
and
a
half
to
six
million,
and
at
that
hundred
percent
yeah
it
could
be
as
much
as
12
million
dollars
to
replace
that
pool
if
you're
looking
at
20,
24
and
20
25
dollars.
Okay,.
G
I
might
ask
that
same
question
that
councilmember
beijing
asked
first
in
a
slightly
different
way,
so
there's
the
allure
of
the
new
pool.
What
about
capacity
do
we
think
that
it's
actually
going
to
be
an
increased
capacity
if
you
were
to
build
a
new
pool
from
scratch,
or
is
the
capacity
about
the
same
or
is
the
capacity
not
even
really
being
met
at
the
two
current
polls
anyway,.
G
Great
matt
merritt
a
quick
follow-up
there,
great
job
with
the
public
outreach
great
job
with
the
report.
It
was
really
nice
to
kind
of
see
those
fine
details
and
those
were
some
of
the
things
that
people
were
asking
for
was
the
you
know
the
splash
pads
and
the
slides
and
all
the
other
things,
and
it
looked
to
me
at
the
end
that,
like
these
really
weren't
going
to
get
anything
extra,
except
for
maybe
that
zero
depth
kind
of
aspect
of
the
pool
size
wise
they
looked
about
the
same
capacity.
D
In
fact,
the
lowell
team
traditionally
has
always
been
our
largest
swim
team
and
we're
able
to
accommodate
100
kids
in
that
pool
for
swim
team
practice.
So
don't
tell
me
how
they
do
it,
but
our
coaches
are
getting
get
real,
innovative
and
creative
in
doing
that.
But
I
think
in
the
end
you
you
get
probably
less
of
an
amenity
boost
with
a
newer
pool
than
you
do
with
the
older
pool.
Aside
from
we
don't
eliminate
anybody
from
an
access
perspective
with
the
zero
depth.
D
So,
madam
mayor
councilmember,
woodings,
both
south
and
low,
run
in
that
seven
in
that
five
to
seven
thousand
visits
per
year
range
and
both
borah
and
fairmont
are
in
the
teens
like
14
to
17
000.
And
then,
if
you
compare
that
to
ivy
wild,
which
is
in
the
high
30s,
and
that's
where,
where
you
get
it's
a
regional
pool,
people
are
driving
to
go
to
ivy
wild
into
the
natatorium.
D
A
Combined,
yes,
yeah,
I'm
just
wondering
I
mean
in
my
mind
that
probably
translates
to
the
numbers
that
you're
going
to
get,
because
if
kiddos
are
walking
and
biking,
then
there's
you
know,
half
the
number
of
people
going,
because
there's
there's
not
an
adult
with
them
just
in
terms.
So
it's
a
different
type
of
neighborhood
pool
than
even
borah
and
fairmont
likely
are.
H
A
Sure
I
think
doug
had
in
his
presentation
at
the
beginning
that
from
the
capital
improvement
plan,
these
have
been
in
the
plan
for
quite
a
while.
Now
I
mean
they
were
in
the
plan
before
I
got
on
council.
Is
it
in
the
ordering
lows
and
23
and
then
south
would
be
in
24
in
terms
of
when
that
3.3
million
dollars
is
designated,
but
of
course
that
doesn't
reach
the
budget,
so
that
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
they
can
be
built
in
those
years.
D
E
I
D
Madam
mayor
council,
member
sanchez,
it
currently
does
not.
However,
I
did
just
hear
today
from
the
state
historical
society,
I'm
going
to
say
all
this
wrong.
So
I
apologize,
but
it
was
voted
on
by
the
historic
site
review
team
this
weekend
at
a
meeting
in
pocatello
to
be
added
to
the
national
registry
of
historical
sites.
So
now
we'll
go
back
to
a
national
and
that
nomination
will
go
back
nationally,
and
the
word
I
got
from
our
state
folks
was
that
they
felt
very
confident
that
it
was
both.
I
Okay
and
just
to
follow
up
madam
mayor,
when
we
first
learned
about
all
the
work
that
that's
been
done
to
reach
out
to
the
community
to
find
out
what
are
their
thoughts
about
these
facilities.
My
my
initial
response
to
that
was
similar
to
councilman
beijing's
like
how
do
we?
How
do
we
maximize
the
ability
for
as
many
people
as
possible
to
take
advantage
of
these
facilities?
F
Madam
mayor,
I
I
guess
I
might
have
a
differing
opinion
from
my
from
my
council
neighbor
here.
I'm
really
looking
at
this
through
the
lens
of
how
many
people
can
we
serve
here.
If
we
have
young
families,
I
mean
we
were
super
users
of
the
natatorium
when
our
children
were
very
young
because
of
that
because
of
that
zero
entry
pool,
we
were
there
all
the
time
with
various
other
families
from
all
over
the
city
who
use
that
facility.
F
F
G
Not
a
mayor,
I'm
going
to
speak
more
towards
south
pole,
because
that's
one,
I'm
more
familiar
with.
I
work
with
a
lot
of
the
kids
who
go
to
south
school
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
notice
about
the
kids
that
I
work
with
that
go
there
versus
ivy
weld
is
the
kids
are
showing
up
on
foot
and
bike
and
they're
usually
showing
up
alone
without
their
parents,
so
it
tends
to
be
sort
of
a
different
demographic
of
kids
that
are
a
lot
of
times
looking
to
cool
off.
G
You
know
during
the
summertime
when
it's
really
hot
and
there
is
a
little
bit
more
independence
there.
When
I
look
at
the
two
different
structures,
though
I
see
what
sounds
like,
we
think
it
might
be
cheaper
to
keep
them
than
it
would
be
to
build
something
new,
maybe
not
significantly,
but
we
think
it
might
be
a
little
bit
cheaper.
Am
I
understanding
that
correctly.
G
G
We
don't
have
the
zero
depth,
but
that's
really
talking
more
about
kids,
who
don't
know
how
to
swim
and
less
people
with
disabilities,
because
we
do
have
access
with.
We
would
be
putting
into
access
for
people
with
disabilities
with
the
elevators
and
also
with
pool
entry
as
well,
and
then
we
also
have
the
added
value
of
both
what
the
community
members
asked
for,
and
the
historical
and
architectural
importance
of
the
facility.
G
So
to
me,
I
I
don't
see
that
big
win,
if
you
would
have
told
me
like
these
other
pools,
would
have
had
way
more
capacity
and
that
these
pools
were
at
capacity
already,
and
this
was
going
to
serve
so
many
more
people.
You
know
and
would
be
able
to
have
a
slide
and
be
able
to
have
this
and
be
able
to
have
that.
C
E
A
Yeah,
I
think,
that's
a
valid
point
and
to
try
to
help
move
us
along
with
some
direction
for
staff.
I'm
going
to
try
to
kind
of
take
that
and
just
make
some
suggestions.
You
know
for
so
long.
These
have
been
on
the
cip
and
we
knew
that
at
this
point
in
time,
we'd
be
having
to
make
some
of
these
decisions,
but
there's
a
lot
of
unknowns
from
a
budget
perspective
on
on
both
designs
and,
ultimately,
as
we
saw
in
the
minus
50
to
plus
100
percent,
just
in
the
construction
market.
A
You
know-
and
I
tend
to
believe
that
these-
that
these
pools
have
served
an
incredible
neighborhood
need
and
until
we
can
better
know
that
we
have
a
cip
plan
for
the
budget,
a
decision
today
from
staff
on
keep
it
round
or
go
to
a
rectangle
or
from
council.
I
don't
think,
is
necessarily
the
right
step.
A
I
was
a
user
of
one
of
these
pools
and
we
held
our
kids
when
they
were
babies,
but
you
know
we're
in
a
privileged
place
where
we
could
be
home
in
the
evenings
with
our
kids
and
so
we'd
take
them
to
the
pool,
but
they
didn't
go
to
the
pool
when
they
you
know
without
us
until
they
knew
how
to
swim
and
then
they
walked
and
biked.
They
serve
a
really
important
need,
as
jimmy
mentions
on
south.
It's
the
same
demographic
at
lowell,
and
I
feel
really
fortunate
that
my
kids
were.
A
You
know,
used
this
pool
and
got
to
know
these
kids
over
the
years,
but
we
need
to
figure
out
from
a
cip
perspective,
how
we
can
fund
the
deficit
rather
than
lead
people
to
believe
that
in
24
or
25,
we're
going
to
be.
You
know,
moving
ahead
on
one
of
these
pools
with
the
design
that
you
know
we
might
give
direction
on
tonight,
and
so
I
think,
you've
heard
the
council
president
pro
tem's
concerns
about
access
overall
with
the
lack
of
kiddie
pool
or
zero
depth.
A
A
What
we
really
what
we
think
is
realistic
in
terms
not
spending
staff
time
on
building
up
plans,
but
perhaps
spending
staff
time
on
how
we
get
to
even
covering
the
deficit
for
the
most
cheap
estimate,
which
I
think
was
4
million.
I
mean
3.3
to
4
million,
not
so
much,
but
if
it's
six
or
plus,
then
then
we've
got
an
issue
there.
F
F
We
could
head
into
a
recession
and
construction
costs
could
go
down
and
we
might
be
able
to
do
things
cheaper.
They
could
keep
escalating
and
we
might
only
be
able
to
do
one.
So
I
think
that's.
Why
is
to
look
at
our
budget
first
and
then
figure
out
where
we
go
from
there,
but
I
think
that
the
public
engagement
and
the
report
were
fantastic
and
I
would
encourage
any
member
of
the
community
who
cares
about
these
pools
to
really
read
that
in
depth?
It's
not
dry,
it's
actually
a
really
good
read.
A
And
I
jump
in
and
say
too
that
the
the
public
engagement
process
was
incredible.
I
agree,
and
it's
not
going
to
go
stale.
I
expect
you
know.
I
would
anticipate
that
if
we
did
it
again
in
two
years,
which
I'm
not
saying
we're
going
to
have
to
do
is
my
argument
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
do
it
we'd
hear
very
much
the
same
thing
unless
some
of
us
that
what
did
you
call
us
mature
former
users
of
the
pool.
A
Unless
some
of
us
just
no
longer
have
the
energy
to
show
up,
but
what
we
learned
is
that
these
pools
are
beloved.
They've
served
an
incredible
they've
created
they've,
been
an
incredible
part
of
the
lives
of
many
boiseans
and
they've
made
cooling
waters
available
to
some
of
the
kids
that
need
it
most
in
the
city
and
then,
ultimately,
that's
what
I
want
to
see
us
doing
as
we
make
the
next
steps
on
design.
I
Madam
mayor,
just
a
quick
question
about
how,
if
there
is
some
sort
of
historic
designation
attributed
to
these
polls,
how
does
that
affect
us
moving
forward
and
as
council
member
holly
burton
brought
up
is
part
of
any
type
of
funding?
Would
that
include
opportunities
for
somebody
in
the
community
to
help
fund
any
improvements.
D
Madam
mayor
councilmember
sanchez,
the
answer
to
your
second
part
of
your
question
is
we're
always
open
to
talking
to
folks
about
philanthropic
opportunities
so
and
we're
always
open
to
that.
As
far
as
the
first
part
of
your
question,
it's
my
understanding
that
it
would
not
have
any
impact
other
than
it
has
the
designation.
H
Metamer,
yes,
I
think
your
approach
is
wise.
I've
really
enjoyed
the
conversation
here.
I
think
each
council
members
had
some
really
really
sage
thoughts.
I'm
prefer.
I
am
preferential
to
the
historical
aspect
of
this
pools.
I
I
think
they're
beautiful.
I
think
we
have
an
opportunity
to
preserve
history,
but
that's
irrelevant
if
we
can't
afford
it.
So
I
think
we
need
more
more
details.
So
appreciate
your
perspective
and
your
direction.
A
And
this
could
well
be
an
opportunity
to
develop.
I
didn't
realize
that
ivy
wild
was
funded
fully
by
philanthropy
the,
but
this
could
be
an
opportunity
to
as
we're
trying
to
figure
out
that
gap
to
call
on
folks
to
join
us
in
this
effort,
especially
those
that
are
so
in
love
with
these
pools
that
they
want
to
designate
them
as
historic.
Perhaps
they'd
also
want
to
help
us
designate
them
again
as
usable
by
helping
fund
the
future
renovations
of
these.
D
A
I
A
A
So
next
up
we're
going
to
hear
from
sarah
sarah
borden
with
hr
she's
here
to
talk
about
the
business
partner
model,
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
came
up
in
our
first
budget
workshop
and
then
from
her
we'll
hear
from
eric.
I've
got
some
comments
on
kind
of
the
approach
that
we're
taking
on
all
this.
But
I'll
have
sarah
go
ahead
and
start.
J
Great
thank
you,
madam
mayor
council
members.
It's
nice
to
be
back.
Here's
just
another
layer
of
detail
to
make
sure
you're
comfortable
with
where
we're
going.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
what
we're
calling
hr,
2.0
the
need
to
kind
of
reshape
reorganize,
how
we
do
the
work
and
add
some
functionality
that
we
just
haven't
had
before.
J
So
let
me
just
talk
you
through
specifically
the
business
partner
model
I'll
go
through
sort
of
what
that
means
in
terms
of
definition,
what
the
benefits
are
and
then
show
you
some
work
structure,
so
you
get
how
all
these
pieces
fit
together,
not
a
lot
of
slides,
though
hopefully
we'll
go
relatively
quickly.
There
we
go.
So
what
is
a
business
partner?
This
is
a
really
common
position
that
happens
in
lots
of
different
organizations,
but
what
it
is
is
really
a
seasoned
and
experienced
hr
professional
they've
been
around
a
long
time.
J
They've
been
in
different
functions
in
hr.
They
are
hr
experts.
They
are
assigned
to
a
specific
department
or
departments
and
really
serve
as
the
partner
to
that
department.
For
anything
they
need
hr
related.
So
our
main
emphasis
is
really
understanding
that
particular
the
needs
of
that
function
and
the
department
and
then
making
sure
that
the
business
objectives
align
with
the
people
strategies.
J
It's
essentially
your
people
expert
for
your
department
and
a
really
easy
way
to
say
it,
and
let
me
talk
through
some
of
the
benefits
of
it
and
that
might
help
you
just
define
a
little
bit
better
than
even
that
there
we
go
so
the
intent
is
really
to
have
a
deeper
understanding
of
what
the
needs
are.
Think
growth
at
the
airport
think
the
water
renewal
bond.
J
Those
situations
in
those
departments
require
different
things,
different
things
relative
to
their
people,
so
really
understanding
what
those
needs
are,
as
opposed
to
sort
of
a
general
blanket
we're
hr
we
serve.
The
city
makes
it
hard
to
really
focus
in
on
what
those
needs
are.
I'm
making
sure
we
have
strategic
alignment
so
take
the
airport
again.
If
we
know
they
need
to
hire
25
people,
there
are
specific
functions
in
the
airport
that
may
be
different
than
any
other
department
may
be
different
than
arts
in
history
to
make
sort
of
a
dramatic
difference.
J
How
do
we
strategically
align
and
get
the
airport
what
they
need,
so
they
can
be
successful
more
quickly
because
we
know
what
their
needs
are:
we're
really
strategic
about
getting
them
what
they
need.
The
other
thing
is
to
think
about
this
proactive
workforce.
Consulting
we've
seen,
you
know
the
gig
economy.
What
does
that
mean?
What
is
what
are
current
workers
asking
for
in
terms
of
benefits?
J
What
are
we
hearing
through
the
grapevine
that
we
can
bring
back
to
the
larger
hr
team
and
say:
hey
we're
hearing
some
stuff,
here's
some
things
we
might
be
doing
and
then
how
do
we
help
directors?
Look
at
you
know,
who's
retiring,
what's
happening
in
the
next
two
years,
not
just
oh
shoot,
five
different
people
just
retired
from
a
place
now
we've
got
to
go
back
and
figure
out
how
to
fill
those
vacancies,
which
is
essentially
some
of
the
stuff
we're
seeing
right
now,
especially
when
people
choose
to
take
early
retirement.
J
We
have
kristin
holtz
who's
lovely
in
our
benefits
team,
but
she
has
2
000
people,
so
2000
people
need
at
some
point
maybe
to
talk
to
kristen.
That
is
hard
to
manage,
even
on
your
best
day
or
they'll.
Call
me
and
say:
hey.
I
have
a
benefits
question.
Who
do
I
talk
to
it's
kind
of
this
musical
chairs
of
who
in
hr?
Do
I
find
imagine
you
knew
who
your
hr
point
of
contact
was.
If
I
had
a
benefit
question
I
would
go
to
mark
mark.
J
Is
the
expert
he'll
know
what
he
doesn't
know
he
then
can
can
transfer
over
to
kristin
it
kind
of
reduces
the
flood
that
comes
into
hr,
that
we
just
can't
handle
it's
just
more
than
we
can
do.
Our
response
response
times
aren't
what
they
need
to
be,
and
we
just
aren't
giving
the
robust
answers
that
we
possibly
could.
So
this
model
is
really
intended
to
sort
of
help
in
that
in
that
way
as
well,
then
the
other
thing
is
just
really
working
on
consistency.
J
Right
now
we
have
different
people
in
different
departments
playing
the
role
of
hr
because
they
have
to.
We
just
don't
have
the
capacity
so
they're
thinking
about
oh,
why
don't
we
recommend
this
level
of
compensation
for
that
new
hire
or
why
don't
we
create
a
job
description
that
looks
like
this
they're
all
well-intentioned,
but
we're
not
consistent.
There's
potential
liability
there
as
well
as
it
just
makes
it
tricky
if
there
are
different
parts
moving
in
different
places.
J
So
consistency
is
a
really
important
thing,
so
those
are
some
of
the
key
benefits
to
it
and
then
let
me
show
you
the
structure
and
we'll
certainly
have
time
for
questions.
But
let
me
just
get
to
this:
there
we
go
now,
that's
a
little
hard
whoops.
This
is
going
to
be
a
little
hard
to
see,
but
let
me
explain
it:
the
gray
boxes
are
no
change.
The
green
boxes
are
title
changes
and
some
adjustments
on
those
teams,
and
then
the
blue
is
in
the
new
ad.
J
So
the
business
partners
would
be
a
whole
new
function
with
a
new
leader
and
five
business
partners,
the
talent
acquisition
team,
that's
currently
employment
services.
We
changed
the
title
and
function
of
that
group
and
then
total
rewards.
We
would
move
compensation
over
so
that,
instead
of
being
just
payroll
and
benefits,
it
would
also
include.
J
Part
of
the
benefit-
that's
not
mentioned
on
my
previous
slide
of
bringing
in
business
partners
is
to
help
relieve
some
of
the
workload
that's
currently
on
employment
services.
If
we
need
a
team
to
focus
on
talent
acquisition
which
we
clearly
do
in
the
current
state,
we
have
to
pull
some
work
off
of
that
team.
They
can't
go,
get
new
new
people
and
fill
vacancies
if
they've
got
all
the
other
work.
They've
got
to
do
so.
J
It's
a
combination
of
standing
up
business
partners,
but
also
pulling
some
work
off
of
the
current
employment
services
team
to
give
them
space
to
do
recruitment.
If
that
makes
sense,
and
then
just
one
last
slide,
is
this
isn't
the
final
who
goes
where?
But
this
shows
the
volume
of
work
that
each
business
partner
might
have,
so
we
don't
certainly
have
enough
to
have
one
per
department,
so
you
can
see
airport
and
dfa
might
be
a
grouping.
Public
works
and
legal
could
be
a
grouping
so
they're
going
to
have
multiple
clients
over
time.
J
If
this
proves
successful,
we
could
say:
hey
the
larger
departments
really
need
their
own,
but
that's
to
be
seen
later.
That's
not
a
right
now
issue,
but
I
just
want
to
give
you
an
example
of
how
there's
the
concept
and
then
how
there
might
need
to
be
multiple
departments
that
are
covered
by
a
particular
business
partner.
F
F
J
The
total
rewards
team
was
payroll
and
benefits.
Okay
and
the
only
major
change
there
is
bringing
the
current
compensation
analyst.
Who
was
in
employment
services
over
to
that
team.
So
that's
total
rewards
it's
pay
and
benefits
right
now,
they're
separated
and
often
you
see
them
combined.
So
if
you're
looking
for
the
benefits
employees
get
through
the
city,
it
would
include
wages
and
benefits
as
a
as
a
way
to
structure
a
little
bit
tighter.
So
that
would
be
that
and
then
we
would
just
change
the
title
to
total
rewards
talent
acquisition,
that's
the
biggest
lift.
J
So
currently
we
have
an
employment
services.
Team
does
job
classification,
compensation,
some
recruitment,
definitely
onboarding.
That
team
has
so
much
work
that
is
so
diverse.
It
just
gets
it's
a
backlog.
We
get
stuck
there,
so
the
concept
is:
how
do
we
pull
some
of
that
work
away?
Give
some
to
business
partners
some
to
the
total
rewards
team
and
then
allow
that
group
just
to
go
out
and
recruit
to
make
partnerships
with
veterans,
communities,
universities,
schools,
trade,
schools
and
just
go
find
talent
in
the
past.
J
We
didn't
have
to
focus
as
much
on
that
because
everybody
wanted
to
work
for
the
city.
Well,
everyone
still
does,
but
there's
a
lot
more
competition
so
where
it
was
much
easier
in
the
past
to
recruit
it's
just
a
lot
harder.
So
the
concept
is
we
have
to
get
ahead
of
this
and
right
now
we're
just
not
able
to
so.
Let's
have
a
team
that
can
really
dedicate
their
time
to
that
instead
of
being
pulled,
you
know
many
different
directions
and
only
only
scratch.
The
surface,
which
is
what's
currently
happening.
F
J
H
A
A
A
H
Sarah
director,
thank
you
so
much.
This
is
really
helpful.
I'm
glad
to
see
that
we
are
reallocating
and
realigning
some
work.
You
may
mention
that
in
some
other
departments
that
they've
been
taking
this
on,
can
you
elaborate
on
that?
Do
we
have
some
other
work?
That's
been
done
in
other
departments
that
might
have
seeped
over
from
hr.
That
will
have
some
new
capabilities
now.
J
If
I
I
believe,
I
understand
council
member
willits
the
work
being
done
by
other
departments,
it
had
to
do
with
things
like
recruitment
writing.
Job
descriptions
go.
You
know
basic
hr
things.
We
heard
of
some
very
well-intentioned
people,
making
compensation
recommendations
using
old
data.
That
kind
of
thing
it
really
because
we
haven't
had
capacity
people
have
had
to
make
do
is
a
very
easy
way
to
say
it
and,
and
that
just
doesn't
feel
like
our
best
day.
J
So
if
we
can
do
better
partnership
and
augment
some
of
our
capabilities,
it
can
not
only
make
us
more
consistent
and
better
at
the
work
we
do,
but
it
also
will
relieve
some
of
the
teams
that
are
really
should
be
dedicated
to
the
work
at
hand
in
their
departments,
where
they've
had
to
sort
of
take
up
some
of
the
slack
that
that
we've
had
had
to
ask
them
to
do
so.
I
think
there's
capacity
building
in
lots
of
different
ways,
even
just
by
augmenting
our
team.
J
A
And-
and
this
will
be
helpful
too
I'll-
go
ahead
and
take
this
one
as
we
go
through
the
dei
work
at
the
city
and
a
large
part
of
what
we're
looking
for
the
policies,
procedures
and
then,
ultimately,
the
culture
to
be
a
welcoming
environment.
Having
folks
that
are
like
solely
focused
on
recruitment
that
are
also
familiar
with
our
goals
in
these
areas
will
be,
will
help
us
strengthen
the
outcomes
in
these
areas.
Yeah.
A
A
So
we
want
to
do
that
for
our
employees,
we're
going
to
celebrate
them
by
bringing
some
employee
celebration
events
back
this
summer,
like
we
did
last
year
and
then
importantly,
we
have
to
acknowledge
the
cost
of
living
increases
that
we've
experienced
and
so
you'll
hear
from
eric
today
for
the
ibc
that
what
we've
looked
at.
What
I've
proposed
is
based
on
numbers
so
based
on
data
5.9
increased
in
wages
for
employees.
A
Now
that
we
can
use
from
funds
that
came
from
vacancies
quite
frankly
in
the
last
year,
rather
than
making
them
wait
for
the
raise
when
we
have
the
funds
on
hand,
I'm
proposing
that
we
do
this
now
and
then
increase
the
living
wage,
designation
that
we
have
throughout
the
city.
So
back
in
the
day.
Tj
thompson
really
encouraged
the
city
and
kind
of
held
the
city's
heat
to
the
fire
to
develop
a
living
wage.
K
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
mayor
members
of
the
council.
We
have
three
interim
budget
changes
for
your
consideration.
As,
as
the
mayor
mentioned,
there
are
some
commonalities
across
the
three,
the
three
ibcs
all
of
them
represent
advancements
of
items
that
otherwise
would
be
included
in
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
budget.
K
They
were
previewed
at
the
may
24th
city
council
budget
workshop
and
with
all
three
of
them.
No
budget
resources
are
being
sought
within
fiscal
year
22
due
to
the
vacancy
savings
that
the
mayor
just
mentioned,
with
the
full
impact
full
financial
impact
of
these
items
built
into
the
upcoming
budget
year.
K
The
first
item
is
the
addition
of
a
payroll
supervisor
into
the
human
resources
department
that
that
unit
has
seen
a
high
degree
of
of
workload
bringing
on
new
systems
and
increasing
and
expanding
workforce.
This
position
will
allow
that
department
to
support
that
work,
support
strategic
initiatives
so
on
and
so
forth.
K
The
second
item
is
for
the
creation
of
six
positions:
five
business
partners
and
one
business
partner
manager.
Those
are
the
positions
that
sarah
was
just
going
over
with
in
her
presentation,
and
the
third
item
is
the
advancement
of
compensation
adjustments
for
our
general
employees
or
our
non-contract
employees,
and
that's
really
there's
two
components
associated
with
that.
H
K
I
can
answer
the
first
part
of
it
perfectly.
The
second
part
I'll
probably
have
to
come
back
as
part
of
the
workshop
or
in
advance
of
that
I
can
certainly
get
that
number
to
you.
Compensation
or
salaries
and
benefits
make
up
approximately
60
to
62
percent
of
the
city's
overall
general
fund
budget
in
terms
of
the
breakdown
between
contract
and
non-contract.
I
apologize.
I
don't
have
that
in
front
of
me
right
now,
but
I
can
get
that
to
you.
G
F
A
Yeah
and
we
intend
to
do
that-
council
member
and
it's
our
intent
to
to
create
a
meaningful
merit
system.
So
historically,
we've
had
three
percent
merit
increase
and
that
goes
into
a
pool,
and
then
it's
distributed
to
employees,
which
means
you
know
not.
All
employees
have
received
a
raise
on
an
annual
basis.
So
then,
what
we've
seen
is
the
diminishing
power
of
their
their
paycheck,
especially
these
days.
Even
more
so,
and
so
we
want
to
encourage
innovation
and
we
want
to
encourage
excitement
in
the
job.
A
And
so
while
it's
important
that
we
look
annually
at
maintaining
the
value
of
the
pay
that
we've
established
for
employees
to
create
a
merit
program
will
take
some
time
because
we're
going
to
have
to
intentionally
set
aside
one-time
funds
to
do
that,
but
so
that
it's
truly
merit
rather
than
you
know
the
little
bit
of
raise
that
would
be
used
instead.
So
to
have
both
a
look
every
year
at
cost
of
living
increases,
but
then
how
we
really
reward
those
employees
that
deserve
to
be
rewarded.
H
H
H
I
do
have
concerns
that,
while
doing
it
early
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
especially
since
people
have
been
working
extra,
they
should
get
rewarded
for
that
that
we
are
setting
the
table
for
the
budget,
because
so
much
of
our
overall
budget
is
personnel,
so
it
doesn't
give
us
flexibility.
I
don't
think
anybody
on
this
council
will
vote
to
go
down
on
compensation
in
the
in
the
2023
budget,
so
it
it
does
create
a
table.