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From YouTube: Design Review Committee
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November 10, 2021
B
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
I'll
just
take
a
moment
here
at
the
beginning
to
introduce
a
new
staff
member
we
have
chelsea.
Wiese
is
an
administrative
assistant.
She
is
performs
in
the
same
capacity
as
nikki,
so
you
will
likely
see
her
at
potentially
this
meeting
planning
zoning
meetings,
historic
preservation,
meetings,
setting
up
helping
us
coordinate.
All
of
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
welcome
chelsea
and
say
thank
you
and
we're
glad
to
have
her.
C
A
A
A
The
applicant
proceeded
to
prepare
their
application
materials
in
order
to
meet
the
conditions
of
approval
and,
as
such,
they
have
submitted
the
documentation
for
the
work
session
tonight
that
addresses
condition
of
approval
1h,
in
that
original
approval
from
may
that
condition
of
approval
required
that
some
additional
details
be
provided
on
the
project.
It
was
it's
a
fairly
complex,
large
building
and
obviously
a
lot
of
details
to
consider
so
exterior
materials
details,
including
samples,
have
been
provided
for
the
work
session
tonight.
A
A
master
signage
plan
with
proposed
locations
and
types
of
signs
is
also
in
the
packet.
The
applicant
has
received
a
final
achd
staff
report,
which
was
included
regarding
the
location
and
configuration
of
the
alley.
They
did
determine
the
details
of
that
alley,
construction
and
and
how
that
would
take
place
and
then,
finally,
any
design
changes
as
a
result
of
design
development,
and
you
will
see
tonight
that
some
changes
have
been
made
to
the
design
that
address
some
of
those
concerns
at
the
initial
hearing
and
the
subsequent
appeal
and
we'll
go
through
those
tonight.
A
A
Grfc
panels
have
been
replaced
with
a
metal
panel.
There
was
some
initial
concerns
about
the
quality
of
appearance
of
the
grfc.
They
have
moved
to
a
metal
panel
to
provide
a
material,
that's
consistent
with
downtown
buildings.
It
has
that
smooth
refined
appearance
and
the
questions
about
what
the
texture
of
those
have
been
resolved
by
that
additionally,
they've
submitted
brick
samples
samples
of
the
proposed
painted
steel
tubes,
the
paint
colors
all
three
colors
of
the
metal
panels
are
here
tonight
as
well,
and
also
some
glazing
samples
for
the
committee's
consideration
as
well.
A
A
Those
are
probably
much
more
helpful
than
than
these
pictures
are
the
vtac
units
they
and
I
believe
that
display
is
a
little
dark
on
the
screen
there,
but
they
did
detail
the
locations
of
those
detached
v-tac
screens,
the
ventilation
panels.
There
provide
some
specifications
and
locations
of
where
those
would
be
located
as
well.
A
I
looked
at
the
applicant
to
kind
of
discuss
in
detail
a
little
bit
greater
about
what
the
garage
lighting
ends
up.
Looking
like
you
know,
we
will
have
some
some
light
in
the
garage
where
it
is
not
screened
that
will
be.
It
would
certainly
be
visible
on
those
upper
levels
and
then
also
some
large
openings
at
the
alley
right
that
there
will
be
a
substantial
lit
opening
at
that
alley
for
entrance.
A
A
There
is
a
non-lit
sign
to
the
east
facing
the
large
residential
project
and
then
the
remainder
of
the
elevations
use
a
an
internally
lit
and
halo
lit
sign
in
various
locations,
and
then
there
are
identified
places
for
other
signs
as
the
project
progresses
and
tenants
are
identified.
They
don't
have
those
tenants
identified.
At
this
point,
I
would
point
out
that
signage
is
dictated
by
the
zoning
ordinance.
It's
based
on
zone
sign
applications
are
just
an
administrative
approval
that
that
would
be
one
of
the
final
steps
of
the
development.
A
A
A
This
is
a
cross-section
of
the
alley
showing
the
height
of
the
garage
screening,
I'm
showing
that
it
will
the
the
solid
spandrel
panels
on
the
on
the
garage
will
screen
vehicle
headlights
and
then
it
shows
some
heights
and
clearances
on
the
alley
there.
The
most
significant
change
is
on
the
east
side
of
the
building,
where
there
was
a
fair
amount
of
discussion
and
concern
about
the
screening
of
the
garage
on
the
south
portion
of
the
project.
A
There
was
always
residential
units
proposed
on
the
north,
half
of
that
east
elevation
and
now
on
the
south.
Half
of
that
elevation
on
the
southern
tower.
The
garage
is
screened
by
residential
units
that
they
were
able
to
include
the
floor.
Plate
of
the
garage
was
modified
and
narrowed
in
the
east-west
direction
and
that
picked
up
some
some
floor
area
to
include
those
residential
units.
So
from
the
east
side
of
the
building,
there
will
not
be
vehicles
visible
that
and
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
describe,
but
in
terms
of
it's
really
this
area
here.
A
Those
are
all
residential
units
now
completely
screen
in
the
garage,
so
that
was
a
significant
change
in
response
to
testimony
to
public
hearing
and
as
a
result
of
the
design
development
of
the
building.
With
that
we
did,
staff
does
feel
that
the
applicant
has
submitted
a
materials
package
and
revised
and
enhanced
drawings
that
meet
the
conditions
of
approval
of
the
origin
of
the
initial
application.
D
All
right
well,
thank
you,
members
of
the
design
review
committee,
jeff
wordle.
My
address
is
251
east
front.
I
appreciate
your
time
tonight.
We
do
have
jason
bates
from
jason
butler
from
cushing
carroll
tonight
to
be
there
together
with
other
members
of
our
design
team.
I
appreciate
the
ability
that
we
can
do
this
remotely,
as
as
I
am
traveling
and
unfortunately
not
able
to
be
there
with
you.
D
I
believe
that
staff
has
done
an
excellent
job
of
identifying
the
materials
that
have
come
in
as
as
we
discussed
in
may,
you
know,
as
we
all
know,
for
these
types
of
complex
projects.
There
are
significant
changes
that
happen
in
the
design
process
and
the
input
that
the
commission
that
the
committee
provided
to
us
was
considered
and
as
we
went
forward
with
additional
modifications
and
additional
refinement
of
the
design,
certain
certain
of
those
elements
came
together
and
we
believe
we
have
a
better
project
now.
So
I'm
going
to
briefly
share
my
screen.
D
D
So,
as
josh
indicated,
there
was
an
appeal
and
planning
and
zoning
denied
that
appeal
so
tonight,
as
a
result
of
the
revisions
that
have
occurred
in
the
design
process,
we
have
modified
the
exterior
materials
on
the
main
tower
to
replace
the
grfc.
With
with
metal
panel
to
address
the
concerns
josh
identified,
we
worked
with
achd
on
a
configuration
of
the
alley
that
was
acceptable
to
them.
It
will
not
be.
D
There
will
be
no
excavation
of
the
alley,
although
it
will
be
redeveloped
to
address
utility
needs
and
drainage
within
the
structure,
but
there'll
be
no
elevation
gain
and
as
a
result
of
that,
the
height
of
the
first
of
the
the
lowest
parking
deck
elevated
slightly
and
we'll
talk
about
the
consequences
of
that
later.
But
as
josh
indicated,
the
garage
was
modified,
the
floor
plate
of
that
narrowing
the
floor
plate
and,
and
then
it
also
facilitated
us
increasing
the
amount
of
residential
by
incorporating
it
in
the
south
tower.
D
So
along
the
north
elevation,
our
landscape
and
design
teams
will
be
able
to
address
that
was
we
have
further
refinement,
but
virginia
creeper
has
been
abandoned
and
we've
identified
additional
alternative
green
greenery
that
will
be
used
as
the
elements
of
landscaping
there
and
we
further
refined
the
plan
to
address
those
issues.
As
josh
noted,
it
has
always
been
the
plan
and
always
been
the
design
that
there
will
be.
You
know
a
42-inch
concrete,
concrete
panel
at
each
level,
shielding
adjoining
properties
from
any
vehicle
lights
and
that
there's
approximately
30
inch
overhang
as
well.
D
D
It
is
26
feet,
8
inches
from
the
top
of
the
panel
on
the
first
floor
down
to
the
elevation
of
the
sidewalk,
so
with
the
retail
elements,
with
the
design
elements
with
the
other
things
that
we've
done
on
the
first
floor,
objections
and
concerns
related
to
the
pedestrian
experience
on
on
the
various
street
frontages.
We
we
think
have
been
adequately
addressed.
I
mean
26
feet.
D
8
inches
is
a
significantly
higher
level
of
of
the
top
of
that
than
you're
going
to
find
in
some
other
garages
in
downtown
and
as
a
practical
matter,
you
know,
pedestrians
just
are
not
going
to
to
notice
it's
not
like
some
of
the
other
garages
that
you
see
so
with
that
we
well.
The
only
other
point
that
I
would
make
is
you
know.
We've
disagreed
fundamentally
with
the
objection
that
and
the
argument
that
all
four
elevations
have
to
be
identical.
D
We
don't
think
that
that's
consistent
with
the
design
guidelines,
the
downtown
boise
design
standards.
You
know
we
have
utilized
a
variety
of
screening,
materials
and
screening
types
and
screening
designs
that
are
appropriate
for
each
and
every
one
of
the
elevations
and
that's
used
metal
screens.
That's
used
metal
panels,
we're
using
concrete
panels.
You
know
the
greenery
and
landscape
elements.
Do
that
and
most
importantly,
the
residential
elements
screen
entirely
of
the
garage
from
the
imperial
plaza
to
the
east.
B
E
E
Colleagues,
as
well
should
any
questions
specific
to
landscape,
the
lighting,
we're
joined
by
by
our
civil
engineer,
mechanic,
our
electrical
engineer
and
landscape
architect.
Tonight
too,
so,
looking
at
the
tower
the
north
tower
in
the
office
tower
or
the
south
tower,
I
apologize
looking
lightest
to
darkest
material
in
an
insulated
metal
panel,
yeah
bob's,
holding
it
up
here
for
us.
So
you
see
that
panel
that
wraps
kind
of
the
element
to
the
to
the
east
tower
side
of
that
tower
and
then
over
the
top.
E
So
moving
to
the
next
material
and
again
these
are
all
insulated
metal
panel.
You
see
the
the
bandwork
at
the
at
the
floor
lines
in
a
in
a
complimentary
but
a
darker
element,
and
then
that's
also
anchored
by
the
vertical
elements
that
have
always
really
been
part
of
the
design
in
a
in
a
bit
lighter
shade
or
a
darker
shade
of
material
and
then
with
an
infill
in
between
panel
four
to
panel
five
in
a
black
band.
E
That's
a
quick
runaround
of
the
insulated
panel
product
really
beneficial
from
an
energy
standpoint
from
a
lightweight,
durable
material.
That's
well
accepted
within
within
our
downtown
community
down
below
at
the
garage
level.
Precast
panels
we're
we're
utilizing
a
very
attractive,
textured
gray
material
in
this
sample.
E
That's
before
you
with
a
light,
a
bright
white
steel
product
in
a
in
a
really
a
bright
white
product,
finish
in
a
powder
coated,
finish
real,
very
durable
material
and
then
the
glass,
the
other
chief
material
on
the
tower
the
clear
anodized
aluminum
frame
and
then
a
clear,
clear,
solar
band,
77
product,
so
very
energy
efficient,
does
have
a
little
bit
of
a
green
tint.
But
it's
a
it's
a
clear
glass
on
clear
glass.
E
One
thing:
that's
unique,
looking
at
the
at
the
base
of
the
building,
as
mr
wardle
described,
the
building
is,
is
unique
and
and
does
respond
to
each
of
its
respective
elevations
you'll,
see
the
shading
the
plant
material
and
a
bit
of
a
shading
filtering
material
on
the
garage
levels
in
a
in
a
durable
product.
The
the
drainage
yeah.
F
E
The
right
there,
bob
yeah,
so
the
planter
material
in
it
matching
the
precast
element
of
the
garage
and
is
a
is
a
planter.
That's
located
inboard
on
those
precast
panels,
so
easy
to
maintain
and
again
a
durable
application
in
in
that
regard,
moving
around
the
project
to
the
to
the
north
tower
and
very
different
architecturally,
but
similar
materials.
E
So
the
north
tower
is
the
multi-family
working
darkest
to
lightest.
Now,
let's,
let's
go
to
the
black
panel,
the
dark
panel
and
and
that's
really
a
fallback
kind
of
a
backdrop
material.
You
see
it
on
the
north
elevation
reliefed
back
in
between
some
of
the
lighter
panels
that
allows
us
to
integrate,
as
you
saw
in
the
earlier
exhibits,
the
the
vtac
louvering
works
very
seamlessly
within
the
system
and
and
really
kind
of
disappears
into
it.
If
you
will
and
we're
able
to
color
match
that
you
know
exactly
the
next
panel.
E
Stepping
down
in
color
again
on
the
office
tower
is,
is
a
supply
chain
challenge.
We've
got
a
small
sample
here,
rather
than
the
12
by
12,
but
you
see
that
capping
element
where
the
cursor
is
moving
back
and
forth
and
then
in
a
vertical
fashion,
again
a
little
bit
of
a
hint
to
that
office
tower
in
a
vertical
fashion,
with
that
with
that
number
four
panel
color
and
then
moving
to
the
the
next
panel.
E
So
that
white
is
allowed
to
be
a
very
special
element
within
the
office
product
and
in
tower
moving
down
in
the
model
just
real
quickly.
We
are
utilizing
the
application
of
brick
and
really
we're
fond
of
this
brick
color.
It's
been
part
of
the
application
all
the
way
along
it's
down
low
in
the
product,
the
materials
and
in
the
projects
down
on
the
park
element
that
runs
north
south.
E
We
do
have
a
little
bit
different
frame,
color
from
the
anode,
clear
anodized
on
the
office
tower
to
the
multi-family,
so
a
darker
frame,
color
and-
and
we
do
have
a
again
a
dark
element,
a
little
bit
more
of
a
residential
type
window
system
and
and
so
on,
and
we
apologize
for
not
having
a
larger
corner
sample
of
that.
But
I
believe
each
of
us,
as
professionals,
can
maybe
visualize
that
a
bit
we
do
utilize
a
wood
grain
panel
down
low.
E
E
And
then,
let's
move
down
the
street
down
bannock
to
the
garage
portion
again
a
little
bit
different,
take
on
the
garage
here.
Those
planters
similar
system
on
the
office
side,
but
an
outboard
application
enabling
us
to
to
give
a
little
bit
of
variety
and
utilize,
a
shading
element
that
will
integrate
into
the
the
drainage
structure
and
the
the
planting
medium.
E
The
yeah,
let's
move
up
the
yeah
there
we
go,
the
the
there
was
a
lot
of
dialogue
on
the
previous
submission
and
a
lot
more
refinement.
If
we
as
we
zoom
in
on
the
the
balcony
elements,
so
we've
chosen
and
proposed
a
very
a
random
weave,
but
a
very
tight
weave
to
obscure
those
balconies
and
and
any
furniture
that
they
land
out
on.
Those
balconies
also
really
enables
us
to
versus
a
horizontal
element
like
we
showed
before.
G
E
So
that's
a
quick
move
around
the
the
exterior
of
the
building
and
those
those
materials
brad.
Could
we
maybe
switch
over
to
the
revit
model
real
quickly
and
want
to
do
a
better
job
of
explaining?
We
do
probably
the
most
significant
is,
as
josh
had
indicated,
most
significant
refinement.
We
gained
25
multi-family
units
along
the
way
since
this
this
group
is.
E
This
was
done
for
a
number
of
reasons
and
and
largely
as
staff
as
josh
had
characterized
to
respond
to
the
neighborhood
and
the
the
concerns
over
that
material
that
we've
originally
proposed
any
light
leak
and
and
so
on,
to
the
to
the
east
of
the
project.
So
you
can
see
the
nature
of
of
the
units
that
were
that
were
gained
so
to
speak,
which
is
which
was
a
great
thing
and
widely
accepted
and
celebrated
by
our
team.
The
elevator
core
also
simplified.
E
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
questions
or
we
want
to
get
into
that,
certainly
in
q
and
a
we
can
get
into
that.
If
you,
if
you
so
choose
so
some
of
the
other
highlights
and
refinements,
we
did
gain
or
drop
out
a
stair
tower
with
the
with
the
five
units
that
were
located
on
the
east
side
of
the
project.
So
wayfinding
becomes
a
little
bit
better
safety
security.
All
of
the
important
elements
for
a
project
of
this
nature
and
scale
we're
really
gained
and
some
benefit
there.
E
B
E
E
E
Yes,
so
a
solid,
a
solid
deck
topping
material-
and
I
don't
know
the
exact
specific
name
of
the
product
that
we're
looking
at
right
now,
but,
yes,
it'll
it'll,
be
there
won't
be
internal
drains
but
it'll
it'll
drain
to
the
exterior
of
the
building
and
not
be
a
transparent
material.
So
to
speak.
So
I
don't
know
chairman
if
that
yep.
No,
I
think
that.
B
E
G
C
Okay
and
the
are
the
five
floors
above,
the
the
broad
white
band
is:
are
those
office
spaces
or
apartments?
Those
are
multi-family.
Okay.
I
noticed
that,
where
you've
provided
a
lot
of
exterior
opportunities
for
the
balance
of
the
apartments
in
the
north
side,
this
side
seems
sort
of
devoid
of
any
kind
of
that
opportunity.
Is
that,
just
because
of
the
nature
of
those
units
that
they're
they're
going
to
be
priced
in
that
way,
yeah.
E
Commit
committee
member
zabala,
it
does
offer
us
a
bit
of
a
different
product
departure,
potentially
there
in
the
in
the
apartment
owners
again
really
utilizing
the
the
tie
end
of
the
tower
in
the
office
tower
and
respectful
of
that.
But
it
does
it
does
as
you
perhaps
hint
at
there.
It
does
offer
a
bit
of
a
different
product
and
and
different
finish
and
again
we're
working
through
those
interior
details
right
now.
E
C
So
it's
it!
I
I
I
don't
know
where
I'm
leading
with
that
other
than
I
think.
If
the
concern
was,
what
are
these
buildings
going
to
look
like
at
night
with
lighting
that
the
the
graphics
provided
solves
the
one
question?
It
really
doesn't
really
answer
what
they're
going
to
look
like
at
night
between
when
you
put
the
signage
on
them,
which
is
one
or
more
other
and
then
what's
happening
on
the
backside
of
so
I
just
want
the
neighborhood
to
know
that.
It's
not
what
you
see
in
the
picture.
H
I
appreciate
that
you
guys
took
the
effort
to
continue
the
visual
continuity
of
your
south
tower
with
the
residential
units.
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
explain
the
decision
on
the
western
side
to
step
away
from
the
the
visual
look
of
the
south
tower
and
have
just
empty
space
between
the
the
precast
panels
in
the
garage.
E
H
H
G
D
That
was
the
concern.
The
neighbors
had
a
different
interpretation
of
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
on
remand
evaluated
that
and
if
you
recall,
when
we
originally
submitted
this,
the
intention
was
that
these
boxes
are
interlocked
and
that
they
are
projecting
through
each
other,
with
the
garage
as
we've
gone
forward
with
the
design.
D
There
is
nothing
in
the
boise
city
code
or
the
downtown
design
guidelines
that
require
all
the
elevations
to
be
identical.
In
fact,
the
direction
is
is
that
we
should
use
modulation.
We
should
use
facade
treatments.
We
should
do
other
things
to
soften
that
and
to
provide
those
structures,
and
so
from
the
very
beginning.
Cushing
terrell
had
a
vision
of
how
these
interconnected
boxes
that
serve
different
purposes.
D
H
H
I
don't
necessarily
agree
that
it
was
fully
executed
here,
but
that's
not
really
here
nor
there.
I
also
don't
believe
that
it
is
city,
council
or
planning
and
zoning's
scope
to
be
judging
aesthetics.
I
think
that's
this
body's
role
and
I
think
that
design
has
changed
in
the
time
since
this
was
originally
seen.
So
we're
evaluating
it
now
right.
I
The
research-
yes,
I
guess
I
wanted
to
clarify
a
little
bit
with
committee
member
erstad.
Are
you
you're,
you
would
be,
you
would
think
it'd
be
more
appropriate
if
that
vertical
screen
element,
that's
carrying
the
vegetation
was
also
included
on
the
fourth
street
elevation.
Is
that
instead
of
the
gap
between
the
concrete
and
the
next.
C
G
E
J
G
C
J
I
guess,
or
whatever
yeah
that
was
that's
a
valid
concern.
It
was
a
concern
of
ours
in
the
initial
design.
We
feel
that
with
the
west
exposure,
it's
going
to
get
enough
sunlight
in
the
later
hours
of
the
day
that
it'll
have
enough
exposure
for
the
sunlight
to
to
grow
adequately.
Is
that
does
that
answer?
Your
question.
B
K
Yeah,
my
name
is
dan
everhart.
I
reside
at
200
north
third
street
in
boise.
That
makes
me
an
immediate
neighbor
to
the
project
and
I
just
will
remind
you
as
I've
done
every
time
I've
spoken
on
this.
I
speak
on
behalf
of
myself
as
a
neighbor
and
a
resident
of
downtown,
not
as
a
representative
of
the
idaho
state,
historical
society
where
I'm
employed.
K
I
think
that,
first
of
all,
I
hope
this
can
turn
into
more
of
a
conversation,
a
conversation
that
includes
the
neighbors,
not
just
the
design
team
and
the
commission,
as
these
matters
are
discussed.
We
have
opinions
here
that
I
think
are
valid
in
this
conversation.
I
hope
it's
a
conversation
and
not
just
a
hearing,
we're
appreciative
of
some
of
the
changes
that
have
taken
place
in
the
design.
K
I
think
these
are
changes
for
the
best,
and
I
I'd
like
to
credit
the
neighborhood,
with
with
seeing
some
of
those
changes
proposed,
the
the
changes
to
the
material,
for
instance,
the
the
stucco
was
a
totally
inappropriate,
suburban
material,
I'm
glad
it's
metal.
Now
I
devils
in
the
details.
I
hope
it
looks
great
and,
of
course,
the
change
of
use
from
garage
to
residential
units
fronting
on
the
east,
which
will
totally
change
the
look
and
feel
of
that
tower,
as
viewed
from
the
east
much
appreciated
there.
K
I
think
there
are
a
couple
things
commissioner
zabala
took
length
to
note
that
the
photometric
drawing
was
illustration.
Let's
call
it
was
not
really
indicative
of
what
the
building
will
look
like
at
night.
We
understand
that
and
we're
particularly
we're
particularly
concerned
that
the
four
large
rectangular
openings
on
the
first
floor,
that
is,
two
garage
entries
or
exits,
and
the
entry
and
exit
to
the
alley
are
not
described
in
any
way
as
anything
more
than
a
black
void.
K
We
know
that
those
we
assume
that
those
will
be
lit
24
hours
a
day,
so
unless
they're
not
going
to
be
unless
they're
going
to
be
black
all
night
long.
It's
not
a
very
good
interpretation
of
what
the
actual
building
will
look
like,
never
mind
that
there
will
be
on
and
off
lights
in
the
commercial
and
residential
units.
We
expect
and
anticipate
that.
K
K
K
So
at
the
very
least,
it'd
be
nice
to
see
an
illustration
of
what
the
building
will
look
like
when
we
have
these
large
rectangles
on
the
first
floor
and
these
horizontal
strips
on
the
south
west
and
north
elevations,
there
is
something
that
no
one's
really
spoken
about,
and
I
guess
it's
a
matter
of
code.
It's
concerning
that
there
will
be
potentially
15
places
for
signage
on
the
south
elevation
12
places
for
signage.
K
On
the
west
elevation
I
sent
josh
some
photos,
there
are
no
buildings
in
downtown
boise
that
employ
this
times
square,
billboard,
style,
design
element
and
it
is
concerning
now.
Luckily,
the
east
and
north
elevations
have
been
spared
those
signage
panels,
but
this,
dare
I
say,
is
a
tacky
application
of
signage.
At
least
it
could
be
now
if
they
only
use
a
handful.
So
here's
they
mentioned
three
projects
right.
This
is
one
project,
so
we've
got,
we've
got
a
couple
signs
there.
K
You
know
on
the
corners
right,
that's
the
grove
that
is
times
square
right,
so
not
our
residential
neighborhood.
That's
that's
boise's
times
square
there's
another
view
of
the
zions
bank
or
one
of
the
other
ones,
josh
and
and
you'll
see
in
no
application,
certainly
none
that
they
illustrated
specifically
in
there
in
their
letter
are
we
seeing
the
kind
of
outsized
number
of
signs
zion's
bank
sure
we
got
a
big
zions
bank?
K
Sure
we've
even
got
a
big
holland
heart
not
on
all
four
elevations
by
the
way,
and
then,
when
you
want
to
detail
the
individual
tenants,
what
do
we
get?
We
get
a
blade
sign.
We
get
a
blade
sign
on
8th
street
and
a
blade
sign
on
main
street.
Those
include
individual
logos
for
individual
projects
right
buildings,
businesses,
but
nothing
like
the
15
signs
or
12
signs
here,
and
they
included
this
in
their
list
pioneer
crossing.
This
is
the
most
suburban,
of
course,
of
their
downtown
projects,
and
it
is
the
most
signed
project.
K
K
K
I
I
think
I
think
they
understand.
We've
never
asked
for
there
to
be
strict
uniformity,
elevation
by
elevation,
but
equal
treatment
of
the
screening
of
the
garage,
not
uniformity,
equal
treatment
and
we're
thrilled
that
there's
going
to
be
apartments
on
the
east
side
that
will
block
the
view
of
the
garage.
I
think
our
friends
and
neighbors
on
the
north
side
continue
to
have
concerns
about
the
long-term
viability
of
those
plantings
to
screen
the
north
elevation.
K
You
know
screening,
so
so
I'd
ask
you
to
consider
those
I'd
love
to
continue
to
participate
in
the
conversation.
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate,
but
it
seems
like
there's,
been
lots
of
talk
and
I
I'd
like
to
engage
in
that
conversation.
If
that's,
if
that's
what
we're
having
here
is
a
conversation.
Thank
you.
B
L
L
I
personally
have
a
hard
time
even
seeing
the
juliet
balconies
at
the
gibson.
I
think
the
balconies
on
the
other
side
are
wonderful.
People
need
to
have
balconies,
they
need
to
have
access
outside.
So
if
all
those
different
sides
of
the
parking
garage
are
going
to
look
different,
why
not?
The
first
five
floors
have
some
kind
of
a
balcony.
I
just
think
it
gives
more
life
more
vibrancy
to
the
to
the
building
and
to
the
people
who
actually
live
there.
L
N
Yes,
my
name
is
bob
snyder.
I
live
at
200,
north
third
street
boise,
idaho
members
of
the
design
review
committee.
Thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
testify
concerning
the
proposed
idaho
central
credit
union,
plaza
I'd
like
to
complement
idaho,
central
and
bva
in
the
changes
they
made
to
the
easterly
elevation
to
eliminate
the
visibility
and
light
pollution
from
the
parking
garage.
This
change
will
help
maintain
the
livability
of
over
30
imperial
plaza
owners
facing
the
tower
approximately
a
half
a
block
away,
idle
central,
acknowledging
the
light
pollution
from
the
southerly
tower.
N
I
think
it's
incredible
about
25
more
dwelling
units
going
in
downtown
in
this
building,
but
what
open
space
has
been
increased
for
that
I
mean
it's
very
minimal,
with
just
the
120
foot
strip,
going
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
you're,
adding
25
more
units
and
if
it
stays
with
no
balcony
there,
there
is
no
open
space
for
them.
It
is
just
crowding
the
downtown
area,
all
the
more,
without
improving
anything.
N
Once
again,
I've
offered
in
all
my
written
communication,
all
presentation
in
reaching
out
to
bba
and
idaho
central
to
assist
in
any
way
I
can
I've
not
been.
I
have
not
received
any
interest
from
them
in
working
together
for
a
project
which
I
think
can
benefit
the
existing
homeowners,
rental,
tenants
and
corporate
interests.
Thanks
for
your
consideration-
and
I
urge
you
to
de
deny
the
signage
on
the
building
in
favor
of
a
more
friendly
and
uniform
plan.
Thank
you.
B
O
I
just
I
would
like
to
thank
dan
for
all
of
his
work.
I
think
he
really
speaks
pretty
well
for
all
of
us.
I
I
had
no
idea
about
the
signage
and
that
would
really
make
a
an
inappropriate
building
even
worse.
My
big
comment,
though,
is
that
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
aren't
at
this
meeting
tonight,
because
the
card
that
was
sent
by
the
city
is
super
confusing
and
told
us
that
it
was
beginning
promptly
at
6
00
p.m.
O
So
I
I,
I
think
that
a
lot
of
people
have
missed
out
on
this
presentation.
I
missed
the
beginning
of
it,
so
I
don't
know
what
was
ever
decided
about
the
trash
situation
and
the
alley
and
those
are
kind
of
my
questions.
I
do
feel
that,
as
was
the
earlier
stated,
we
asked
for
equal
treatment,
not
the
same
treatment,
so
I
believe
that
that
was
that
was
an
overstatement
by
the
attorney
that
of
what
we
were
asking
for
and
what
was
denied
to
us
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
B
D
B
D
D
Iccu
is
the
anchor
the
owner
the
developer
of
this
project.
Hence
their
signage
is
going
to
be
important.
Their
design
elements
are
important.
We
have
committed
to
the
neighbors
as
set
forth
in
the
design
is
set
forth
in
the
signage
plan,
which
we
will
finalize
with
staff
later
that
the
signage
on
the
east
elevation
at
the
top
will
not
be
lighted.
So
mr
snyder's
concern
has
been
addressed
and
we've
been
consistent
in
that
regard.
D
To
the
extent
that,
yes,
we
did
identify
multiple
locations
for
signs,
it
does
not
mean
that
there
will
be
signs
in
each
and
every
one
of
those
locations,
as
mr
everhart
went
through
our
portfolio
and
identified
those
other
locations.
As
we
know,
from
experience
with
the
city
and
in
adopting
and
getting
a
signed
plan
approved
that
the
use
of
boxes
to
identify
potential
areas
where
signage
can
be
permitted
consistent
with
the
code
is
the
mechanism.
That's
been
done.
D
We've
obviously
provided
cut
sheets
identifying
the
various
types
of
lighting,
the
fact
that
they
are
not
going
to
have
there
will
be
no
drop
lighting,
that
we
can
shield
and
cut
those
off
and
use
those
elements
to
address
those
as
we
go
forward,
but
ultimately
we
have
to
comply
with
the
standard
that
is
required
and
we
will
so
with
that.
We
believe
that
we
have
satisfied
the
conditions
of
of
approval.
We
believe
that
we've
satisfied
and
addressed
the
items
that
you
asked
us
to
go
and
work
on.
D
Obviously,
there
there
remains
a
it
appears,
a
difference
of
opinion,
but
with
that
we
believe
that
we've
satisfied
those
concerns
and
those
requirements.
Ultimately,
our
lighting
application
and
the
lighting
design
elements
will
have
to
satisfy
the
existing
conditions
of
approval.
The
signage
will
be
evaluated
through
the
further
process
and
we
will
be
in
a
position
to
move
forward
on
that,
so
jason.
I
will
defer
to
you
for
any
final
comments.
I
I
E
E
The
park
space
is
very
thoughtful
and
and
being
well
protected
from
utility
infiltration
into
that
area,
and
that
sort
of
thing
by
the
design
team
is
is
certainly
first
and
foremost
in
our
mind,
to
create
a
really
a
beautiful
mid-block
park
pocket
park
and
a
north-south
mid-block
connectivity,
the
that's
available
to
to
the
public
and
certainly
the
users.
So
there
there
will
be
operable
windows
by
code
with
those
units
and
and
so
on.
Yeah,
okay,.
A
G
B
G
C
B
I
B
B
It's
for
the
construction
of
a
new
19-story
mixed-use,
building
with
ground
floor,
commercial
and
209
residential
units.
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
on
this
item
that
cannot
make
the
december
8th
date
online?
Please
virtually
raise
your
hand,
anybody
look
here
and
see
none.
I
will
move
to
the
next
item
to
be
deferred,
which
is
item
number
two.
It's
drh21-00378.
B
B
B
Deferral.
Last
item
is
item
number
eight
drh21-00411
location
is
951
east
gallon
road
for
the
construction
of
two
new
industrial
buildings
totaling
approximately
eight
hundred
and
eighty
five
thousand
one
hundred
and
eighty
square
feet
with
associated
site
improvements
on
the
property
and
again
is
there
any
member
of
the
audience
wishing
to
speak
to
this
item?
Who
could
not
make
the
december
8th
date.
J
B
B
B
The
first
item,
to
be
heard
on
tonight
is
item
number
three:
it's
drh21-0036
location
is
111
or
1115
west,
idaho,
to
construct
a
new
27-story
mixed-use,
building
with
297
residential
units,
ground
floor,
retail
and
lobby
space
and
seven
floors
of
structured
parking
located
in
a
c5
dd
zone,
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
Josh.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
members,
commission
I'll
be
fairly
brief.
In
my
presentation.
The
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
included
in
staff
report.
We
are
expecting
some
public
tonight
to
testify
on
the
proposal
and
I
do
have
some
public
comment
that
was
received
after
the
packet
went
out
to
present
to
united
tonight
as
well.
So
the
applicant
has
proposed
a
27-story
mixed-use
building
on
the
south
east
corner
of
idaho
and
12th
street
in
downtown
boise
love
folks,
who
know
it
as
being
in
the
parking
lot
behind
the
record
exchange.
A
A
The
project
has
been
broken
into
kind
of
a
base
middle
and
top
with
the
parking
garage
being
illustrated
with
a
decorative
metal
screen,
with
some
graphic
elements
that
mimic
that,
at
the
top
of
the
building,
that
middle
area
of
the
building
is
that
residential
tower
area
uses
a
glass
curtain
wall
system
with
balconies
that
are
used
to
break
up
those.
Those
areas
that
tower
is
set
back
from
you
can
see
in
the
east-west
elevation
here.
That
tower
is
set
back
from
the
parking
structure,
as
required
in
downtown
design
guidelines.
A
We
did
receive
a
public
comment
after
the
packet
was
distributed,
expressing
some
concerns
about
loss
of
views
from
a
resident
in
the
residential
project
that
is
located
to
the
southeast
of
this
tower
and
then
kind
of
pointing
out.
A
couple
of
questions
that
I
would
just
like
to
just
quickly
address.
One
is:
is
city
of
boise's
reaction
to
property
values.
A
My
response
there
would
be
that
the
city
of
boise
does
not
assess
or
collect
taxes
that
data
county,
so
we
do
not
have
any
purview
over
that
second
being
restrictions
on
working
hours
of
the
project
in
the
project
report,
in
the
conditions
of
approval
that
the
applicant
has
agreed
to,
there
is
a
restriction
on
hours
of
construction
that
is
condition.
15
and
construction
activity
on
the
site
is
limited
from
6
30
a.m,
to
6
p.m,
monday
through
friday
and
8
30
a.m
to
6
p.m,
saturday.
Sundays.
A
B
F
Share
jeremy
malone
with
opel
number
development,
877
west
main
street
suite
700,
boise,
idaho
83702,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee,
I'd
just
like
to
first
off
say
thank
you
for
seeing
this
project.
As
you
know,
open
hyper
development
has
a
long
history
in
downtown
boise,
we're
very
passionate
for
our
community
and
the
needs
of
our
community
and
downtown.
F
R
A
G
R
R
The
first
flight
over
here
is
an
aerial
map
of
boise.
Our
site
is
the
red
rectangle
at
the
intersection
of
12th
and
idaho,
as
josh
pointed
out,
we're
in
the
c5dd
zone,
so
our
height
and
residential
far
is
unlimited
and
as
a
tall
building,
we
have
really
spectacular
views
to
the
foothills
and
the
green
belts
at
the
street
level.
We
have
very
convenient
access
to
the
bus
line
on
idaho
bike
trails
along
the
river
and
we're
within
walking
distance
to
much
of
the
retail
services,
civic
and
recreational
spaces.
R
The
city
of
boise
has
to
offer
we
love
the
boise
skyline
and
the
mix
of
taller
and
shorter
buildings.
Modern
and
historic
in
the
backdrop
of
the
foothills,
makes
the
view
incredible
any
time
of
the
year.
We
also
like
how
urban
boise
is
very
walkable
blocks,
with
lots
of
restaurants
and
retails
that
spills
out
into
the
sidewalks
and
the
green
belt
is
just
a
couple
blocks
away
perfect
for
biking
and
kayaking
and
there's
a
lot
of
vitality
and
energy
to
the
city,
and
we
only
wanted
to
add
to
that
vitality
and
energy.
R
The
experience
at
the
top
of
the
mountain
is
like
none
other
than
something
we
wanted
to
explore
in
our
building
programmatically,
the
building
is
made
up
of
297
units
spread
across
18
levels,
377
parking
spaces
at
seven
levels
below
in
the
podium
at
the
top.
We
cherished
it
and
created
a
two-story
mini
deck
with
vistas
to
the
south,
east
and
west.
R
R
R
Urbanistically
we
wanted
to
just
highlight
a
couple
items.
The
sawtooth
edge
creates
a
very
iconic
top
and
we're
located
in
between
two
office
buildings.
So
a
dense
residential
tower,
with
retail
at
the
base
on-site
parking,
we
think,
will
help
make
this
neighborhood
feel
more
mixed
use
on
the
downtown
design
guidelines.
A
couple
highlights:
the
parking
structure
is
concealed.
We
have
a
distinctive
top
middle
and
base
and
we
have
really
simple
articulation
at
the
balconies
to
break
up
the
massing.
R
This
is
a
conceptual
rendering
at
the
top
of
the
building,
showing
two
in
many
levels:
two
decks
an
exterior
staircase
that
ties
them
together.
We
want
this
experience
to
feel
like
you're
on
top
of
a
mountain
programmatically.
The
lower
deck
is
intended
to
be
more
of
a
social
gathering
space
with
a
pool
while
the
upper
deck
is
more
private
and
secluded
with
a
fire
pit.
Both
will
have
interior
spaces
that
support
the
exterior
decks
and
visually.
We
think
the
silhouettes
of
a
mountain
at
the
top
is
stunning,
especially
with
the
foothills.
As
a
backdrop.
R
R
Parking
is
wrapped
by
a
screen
wall
and
we
have
an
active
ground
floor
with
retail
and
residential
lobby
at
the
very
right
hand.
Top
you
can
see
a
section
at
the
top
of
the
building
with
the
elevator
overruns
and
the
cooling
tower,
and
we're
doing
our
best
to
kind
of
conceal
all
that
mechanical
equipment
at
the
top.
S
S
S
Moving
down
further
to
the
parking
on
the
right
is
our
typical
parking
floor
plan.
We
have
90
degree,
parking,
two-way
circulation
and
two
sets
of
elevators.
The
center
set
of
elevators
is
for
residential
use
and
then
up
at
the
top
corner
and
blue
is
the
public
access.
Elevators,
then
filling
out.
The
rest
of
the
corners
of
the
plan
in
yellow
is
bicycle
storage,
which
will
meet
our
our
bicycle
requirement
of
one
per
unit.
S
Looking
over.
At
the
perspective,
the
parking
encompasses
the
levels
on
the
left
so
moving
down
a
little
further.
The
parking
is
covered
with
a
graphic
silhouette
that
plays
off
the
sawtooth
at
the
crown
of
the
building.
So
not
only
is
the
top
sculpted
to
simulate
the
mountains.
It
is
also
brought
down
at
this
graphic
scale
near
the
near
the
podium,
and
even
though
this
is
a
parking
garage
along
12th
street
urbanistically,
we
felt
it
was
important
that
the
tower
expression
continues
down
to
the
ground.
S
S
North
is
a
little
up
and
to
the
right
just
to
orient
everyone
to
our
plan,
and
so
because
we
notice
that
there
is
retail
much
further
down
on
idaho
street
and
kind
of
fills
out
the
c5
district.
Here
we
felt
it
important
to
respect
and
continue
that
urban
retail
frontage
into
our
development,
and
this
would
activate
our
idaho
street
frontage
with
the
retail.
S
Then
we
thought
that
12th
street
is
the
quieter
street,
which
is
perfect
for
our
residential
lobby.
Entrance
adjacent
to
the
lobby
is
the
public
garage
access.
You
will
note
that
we
have
pulled
back
from
the
corner
next
to
the
alley.
This
is
not
only
to
respect
the
required
view
triangle,
but
also
to
avoid
the
canal
that
clips
the
corner
of
our
property.
S
Lastly,
I'm
talking
about
the
streetscape,
we
are
following
the
the
downtown
design
guidelines
with
the
16
foot
wide
sidewalk,
with
trees
and
grates
on
both
idaho
and
12th
street.
The
trees
are
class,
2,
trees,
spaced
every
30
feet
along
center
and
the
historic
street
lights
are
about
60
feet
on
center.
S
H
Mr
chair,
yes,
mr
this
is
this
is
impressive,
and
I
appreciate
the
thought
that
you
guys
have
put
into
this.
This
will
certainly
be
a
an
invigorating
addition
to
the
skyline,
and
I
think
I
I
have
a
couple
questions
mostly
just
more
on
the
detail
level.
As
far
as
the
the
screening
on
the
parking
garage
goes.
Is
that
intended
to
have
any
sort
of
articulation?
R
No
sir,
that's
a
very
good
question.
Certainly
that's
not
the
intention
we're
actually
looking
at
a
high
tensile
fabric
instead
of
the
perforated
metal.
We
like
the
idea
of
bringing
in
natural
light
to
the
garage.
You
know
it
is
going
to
be
a
a
public
commercial
garage.
So
you
know
having
natural
lights
is
going
to
be
a
little
bit
more
friendly
to
people
when
they
come
in
and
then
the
as
the
light
hits
it.
We
think
it
will
give
it
some
texture
with
the
fabric.
H
H
H
R
R
B
B
And
then
how
it
terminates
at
the
top,
I
guess
whatever
that
trim
piece
is
top
and
bottom,
I
think,
are
going
to
be
kind
of
critical
elements
to
kind
of
keep
the
purity
of
that
portion
of
the
box,
as
well
as
the
transition
between
the
two
different
colors,
whether
those
are
separate
pieces
or
they're.
Just
color
changes
on
on
that
piece,
the
materials
on
the
columns
again.
Can
you
remind
me
that
at
the
ground
level,
as
well.
R
G
R
B
R
Yeah
so
usually
we'll
put
some
sconces
on
the
columns
at
every
all
the
bays.
We
do
get
a
lot
of
light
spill
off
from
the
retail
and
we
are
going
to
want
some
light
for
the
residential
lobby
and
then
we'll
put
some
lights
along
the
alley
to
make
sure
that
it's
safe
at
night.
We
typically
don't
like
to
put
lights
on
our
residential
buildings.
R
I
Is
your
turn?
Yes,
very
simple,
so
the
mechanical
units
for
the
structure-
I
would
assume
you
know-
lower
level-
is
going
to
be
maybe
handled
on
top
of
the
garage
residential
on
the
roof.
You
see
any,
I
think
you're
here
for
the
previous
presentation,
or
at
least
caught
a
little
bit
of
that
work
session.
Are
you
doing
you
know,
wall
mounted,
mini
split
systems?
Are
you
doing
air
handlers
on
the
roof?
Just
a
little
bit
more
detail.
R
On
that
sure,
yeah
great
question
so
it'll
be
a
cooling
tower
up
on
the
roof
and
then
we'll
have
vertical
heat
pumps
in
all
the
units
and
it's
just
four
pipes
that
just
run
through
the
entire
building
and
all
the
units
sort
of
stack.
So
it's
a
very,
very
clean
building,
we're
trying
to
avoid
anything
kind
of
on
the
exterior,
with
the
exception
of
just
operable
windows,
and
that
horizontal
band
that
you
see
every
floor
line.
B
Q
R
R
B
B
R
Yeah,
so
it's
a
it's
called
a
window
wall
system,
so
you
install
it
at
every
floor
line
and
it
just
sits
on
top
of
the
slab
and
then
we're
trying
to
get
as
much
vision
class
as
you
can.
In
our
experience
the
whole,
the
the
one
of
the
main
drivers
for
living
in
a
high
rise,
is
looking
at
getting
these
spectacular
views.
R
You
know
in
this
case
it's
the
foothills
and
so
we'd
like
to
try
to
maximize
as
much
glass
as
we
can
that's
vision,
but
we
do
understand
the
energy
code
and
the
constraints
that
we
have
and
are
going
to
have
some
sort.
Some
are
going
to
end
up
being
spandrel,
so
they'll
be
the
same
glass.
So
it
has
the
same
reflective
properties
but
we'll
put
a
paint
on
the
number
four
service
so
that
you
can't
see
inside.
R
Yeah,
so
in
our
our
experience
you
can
probably
do
12
feet
without
adding
any
additional
metal
or
framework.
So
once
you
get
to
that
point,
you
do
have
to
kind
of
run
a
steel
beam
or
some
extra
support.
So
in
that
image
there
you
see
to
the
left,
that's
our
cooling
tower!
Well,
so
we
wanted
to
cover
that
up.
That's
probably
going
to
be
30
by
30
piece,
so
we'll
have
to
run
some
additional
steel
in
there
or
concrete
to
support
that
wall.
B
B
T
Hi,
I'm
scott
shaner,
with
rafnelia
najas
at
702,
west,
idaho,
suite
825.,
we
own
most
of
the
land
and
the
buildings
to
the
north
of
this
project.
We
just
finished
11th
in
idaho,
so
we
probably
have
the
most
to
lose
as
far
as
views
it's
going
to
take
a
lot
of
our
views,
but
with
that
said,
I'm
here
to
support
the
project.
I
think
it's
a
nice
project.
I
think
it's
well
thought
out.
T
I
think
that
in
boise
we've
had
we've
built
a
lot
of
buildings
that
have
not
been
architecturally
significant,
and
I
think
that
this
is
easily
the
nicest
residential
building
we've
seen
proposed
in
boise,
or
at
least
that
I've
seen
proposed
in
boise
and
then
there's
some
other
reasons.
I
mean
obviously
housing.
You
know
everyone's
talking
about
housing,
attainability
some
of
it's
just
supply
and
demand,
and
we
need
more
units,
and
this
provides
in
one
big
building
a
lot
of
units.
T
Second,
is
you
know,
downtown
retailers?
You
know
we
have
some
of
those
as
tenants
and
they're
struggling.
It's
been
tough
right
now.
Putting
more
people
downtown
will
help
that
it's
going
to
help
traffic.
My
wife
and
I
we
live
downtown
and
I
work
downtown
and
I
rarely
drive
except
to
go
to
mccall
on
the
weekends
and
the
same
thing
is
going
to
happen
here.
People
aren't
going
to
pay
rents
for
a
building
like
this
and
work
out
at
10
mile,
so
it
will
reduce
traffic.
T
But,
most
importantly,
I
think
that
the
nice
thing
about
this
is:
is
that
you've
got
a
developer?
You
can
count
on
oppenheimer
has
been
doing
business
here
for
a
long
time.
I
I
don't
know
the
guys
from
white
oak
actually
just
met
them
in
the
lobby
seemed
like
nice
guys.
I've
done
a
little
research
on
them.
They've
built
really
nice
stuff.
B
K
My
name
is
dan
everhart.
I
live
at
200,
north
third
street
and
you've
heard
me
talk
about
another
project.
I
I'm
super
excited
about
this
project.
Since
I
live
downtown,
I
I
think
the
design
aesthetic
is
engaging
and
interesting.
I
think
it's
high
praise
from
ref
nali
nehouse,
who
has
been
putting
up
the
best
buildings
in
downtown
with
the
best
design,
aesthetic.
K
I
I
wish
all
I
wish
all
downtown
towers
had
the
level
of
quality
that
this
design
seems
to
to
have.
So
I'm
I
couldn't
say
more
to
to
praise
it.
I
think
it's
an
exciting
opportunity
for
boise.
It's
certainly
going
to
add
to
our
skyline
in
a
way.
That's
both,
I
think,
dramatic
and
and
beautiful.
So
I
I
hope,
you'll
approve
this
design
as
it's
proposed.
K
B
B
C
I
think
that
what
we're
seeing
and
what
I'd
like
to
see
in
that
area
is
the
the
new
energy
that
these
recent
developments
are
bringing
and
extending
the
downtown
core
to
the
to
the
west
and
the.
I
think
the
inclusion
of
the
retail
on
the
first
floor
will
continue
to
do
that.
Where
there's
a
kind
of
a
blank
spot
between
13th
street
and
10th
street
in
there
for
good
quality
retail,
which
I
think
this
building
will
bring
and,
like
I
say,
the
the
quality
of
the
design
is
exciting.
C
For
a
public
work
session
just
so
that
we
can
have
a
better
idea
of
the
final
detail
materials,
including
physical
samples
of
those
and
any
design
changes
that
may
have
resulted
as
a
result
of
this
project.
Moving
forward
with
that
I'll
yield
the
floor
to
anybody
else.
With
the
comments
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
G
Q
If,
if
you
were
here
in
the
earlier
testimony
and
that's
going
to
be
a
big
concern,
you're
showing
us
this
beautiful
trees
is
that
what
we're
going
to
get
at
the
end
or
as
you
do
your
design
you're
going
to
determine?
Oh,
it
really
only
supports
tall
shrubs
or
whatever.
So
I'd
like
to
see
what's
happening
there.
I
think
at
the
ground
level,
the
materials
what's
happening
at
this
pedestrian
level.
Q
H
Go
ahead.
Go
ahead,
I
think,
to
follow
up
on
the
the
lighting
at
the
ground
level,
similar
to
the
earlier
work
session.
I
think
it'd
be
important
to
see
what
the
internal
lighting
on
the
parking
garage
looks
like
and
does
through
that
translucent
screening
and,
let's,
let's
make
sure
and
add
a
couple
of
light
bugs
out
down
the
periphery.
So
we
see
what
the
illuminated
skin
of
the
building
looks
like
as
well.
I
I
The
fabric
on
the
garage
is
a
unique
treatment.
That's
definitely
something
that
we'll
want
to
see
some
more
detail
on
at
that
work
session
and
the
landscape
on
the
building,
I
think,
is
paramount.
I
mean
we're
the
city
of
trees,
it'd
be
great
to
get
some
trees,
there's
not
a
lot
of
on-structure
landscaping
here,
which
I
think
is
unfortunate.
I
B
B
Do
you
believe
that
there's
some
additional
detail
that
is
needed
for
final
approval,
so
I
would
be
in
support
of
just
bringing
this
back
to
a
work
session
at
a
future
date
just
to
just
to
get
another
set
of
eyes
on
exactly
what's
being
proposed
as
this
project
progresses.
Mrs
ballard,
you
know,
did
you
prove?
Did
you
suggest
a
percentage
or
when
that
was
to
be
returned
to
us.
B
J
C
C
B
Okay,
I
think
that
probably
provides
them
enough
information
for
some
of
the
comments
that
we've
provided
tonight,
as
well
as
what
we're
expecting
to
see
and
we'll
kind
of
let
them
work
with
staff
on
that
kind
of
design,
development,
application
with
refined
details
with
that
anybody
want
to
take
a
stab
at
a
motion
or
any
other
discussion
like
there's.
A
lot
of
support
for
this
particular
project.
B
U
B
B
V
V
So
there
was
some
concern
by
planning
staff
about
the
proximity
of
the
south
driveway.
Here
that's
proposed
and
then
there's
this
existing
shared
driveway
here,
and
I
have
some
photos
of
that.
I
can
show
you
so
here
is
that
existing
shared
driveway
and
that
is
used
by
this
building
to
the
south,
which
is
an
industrial
building,
and
they
have
their
truck
docks
here.
So
what
they
do
is
they
back?
They
back
up
into
here
to
get
their
access
to
their
truck
docks,
and
we
did
receive
comments
from
achd
this
week.
V
Their
required
distance
from
a
driveway
to
an
intersection
on
a
local
street
is
75
feet,
measured
center
line
to
center
line,
so
they
support
not
using
the
existing
shared
driveway
based
on
the
incompatible
uses,
and
they
will
approve
the
southern
proposed
driveway,
as
shown
here.
They
would
approve
this
location
with
a
24
foot
wide
width
on
that
driveway.
V
V
Yeah,
mr
chairman
committee,
member
simple,
it
is
some
kind
of
I
think
believe
just
warehouse
use
and
it
sounded
like
the
applicant
thought
that
that
wasn't
used
very
often
and
then
I'll
also
just
comment
that
the
speed
limit
on
that
roadway
is
25
miles
per
hour.
So
it's
not
not
a
very
heavily
trafficked
roadway.
B
M
Good
evening,
thank
you
caitlin!
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
council
members.
My
name
is
mark
hazel,
I'm
with
lombard,
conrad,
architects,
472
west
washington
street.
The
fact
that
does
caitlin's
present
them
are
that's
how
we
see
it.
We
are
looking
at
how
we
can
possibly
straighten
out
that
south
drive,
which
is
the
primary
frontage
for
the
facility
that
would
a
straight
drive,
would
allow
for
better
bus
access.
M
The
existing
drive
to
the
south,
as
you
can
see,
is
beyond
our
property
line
or
comes
onto
the
property
line
that
drive
right.
There
is
about
40
feet
wide,
so
it
has
a
very
generous
truck
traffic
area.
The
building
to
the
south
is
a
biotech
research
company
from
the
signage.
I
don't
entirely
know
what
they
what
they
do
there,
but
I
do
not
anticipate
that
they
have
a
a
lot
of
public
visiting
that
site
and
that
is
primarily
used
for
public
loading
or
sorry
for
truck
loading
and
unloading
to
the
south.
M
We
did
push
the
building
in
the
entirety
of
the
site
up
north
as
much
as
possible.
We
are
limited
with
with
continuing
to
move
the
building
north
due
to
the
fact
that
in
the
future,
if
budget
allows
would
like
to
expand
and
put
an
outdoor
swimming
facility
there,
as
well
as
additional
parking
to
support
that.
M
I
B
B
C
Mr
chairman,
yeah
josh
or
questions
looking
at
the
staff
report,
they're
indicated
the
applicant
indicated
that
at
some
point
in
time
with
the
bleacher
system
and
everything
they
could
have
675
people
within
this
facility
and
yet
the
total
parking
spaces
proposed
as
determined
by
the
director.
Only
41.
V
Is
that
the
intent
yeah?
I'm
a
state
chairman
committee
member
zabala
generally,
there
won't
be
that
many
people
in
the
building-
those
will
just
be
occasional
events
and
they're
kind
of
working
with
the
surrounding
properties
to
have
parking
agreements
in
place
to
accommodate
extra
parking,
and
most
of
these
most
of
the
competitors
will
be
not
driving
aj.
I
believe
so.
Q
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
I'm
really
in
support
of
this
project,
because
it's
something
that
we
need
in
the
community,
but
I'm
struggling
with
the
parking.
Even
if
there's
not
a
competition
per
se.
I
assume
there's
going
to
be
practices,
and
I
don't
I
got
to
believe
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
participants
practicing
than
what
the
parking
as
proposed
allows.
Q
The
other
thing
of
concern
is
the
fact
that
this
is
a
sprung
structure
and
it's
it's
a
temporary
structure.
It's
not
a
permanent
one
and
at
some
time
it's
going
to
fail
in
the
future.
It's
going
to
or
become
degraded,
and
I'm
familiar
with
this
because
of
the
structures
like
tamarack,
for
example,
I'm
very
familiar
with
those.
Q
J
V
B
G
H
V
B
B
M
Yes
to
to
like
to
commissioner
sorry
to
committee
member
aguilera's
point:
it
is
a
temporary
fabric
structure,
it
does
have
a
very
long
lifespan,
but
will
need
to
be
replaced.
It
is
not
a
permanent
structure,
but
due
to
cost
for
what
is
essentially
a
public-private
facility
or
utilizing
public
funds.
The
primary
goal
is
to
provide
a
competitive
level
swimming
event,
space
collegiate
level
swimming
level
swimming
space
for
the
public
for
the
for
boise,
and
we
are
trying
to
do
this
in
an
efficient
way
where
we
are
providing
a
the
primary.
M
The
substructure
has
been
used
in
several
other
aquatic
facilities,
one
that
we're
currently
doing
in
mountain
home
record.
It
is
a
structure
that
is
designed
to
withstand
the
corrosive
nature
of
a
pool
facility,
as
well
as
we
are
providing
appropriate
hvac
to
help
control
and
mitigate
the
humidity
within.
G
B
C
C
Not
much
we
can
do
to
affect
those
decisions
of
as
far
as
the
applicant
and
is
involved
and
what
they
they
want
to
invest
this
structure
and
the
risks
involved
in
the
decisions
they're
making
today.
I
agree
that
it's
a
it'll
be
a
great
facility
for
the
city
and
for
the
swim
teams
that
are
around
so
with
that,
I
would
recommend
approval
of
drh21-00404.
H
B
Exciting
to
be
heard
tonight
is
item
number
five.
It's
drh21-004
location
is
8208
south
eisman
roads
for
the
construction
of
a
new,
approximately
48
thousand
800
square
foot,
industrial
building
with
associated
site
improvements
located
in
a
property
in
an
m1d
zone
and
again
I'll
turn
this
over
to
you,
katelyn.
V
So
this
subject
parcel
is
the
southern
half
of
this
outlined
area,
which
is
approximately
five
acres,
and
it
was
broken
off
of
this
larger
piece
and
it
is
under
the
same
ownership
in
use.
The
property
is
on
the
east
side
of
eisenmann
road,
south
of
gavin
road
across
the
street,
from
the
blue
valley,
community.
V
V
The
access
drive
is
proposed
to
align
with
blue
lake
lane.
There's
a
second
driveway
labeled
as
a
future
access
drive
a
recommended
condition
of
approval
states
that
the
secondary
driveway
is
not
approved
with
this
application,
because
city
policy
encourages
consolidating
driveways
and
eisenmann
as
an
arterial
roadway,
and
then
the
service
drive
will
need
to
be
paved
and
configured
to
provide
all
required
fire
access.
V
The
applicant
will
also
be
constructing
the
sidewalk
along
eisenmann
road,
as
well
as
installing
a
front
landscape
buffer
with
street
trees.
A
condition
of
approval
states
that
the
only
screen
store
that
only
the
screen
storage
areas
can
be
a
gravel
and
that
any
other
areas
are
required
to
provide
a
mainly
vegetative
ground
cover,
and
that
includes
the
area
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
street.
V
They
have
a
concern
about
the
erosion
and
runoff
from
this
property
into
the
blue
valley.
Community
lake
and
the
applicant
team
did
provide
a
response
with
some
ideas
of
how
this
will
be
mitigated,
and
that
includes
the
addition
of
the
landscape
areas
and
some
other
site
improvements
are
that
are
part
of
their
project.
So
I
believe
the
applicant
team
is
available
to
speak
and
I
believe
the
south
eisenmann
neighborhood
association
also
has
some
representatives
here
tonight.
W
W
Now
we
are
in
general
compliance
with
the
conditions
or
we're
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
we
did
have
a
couple
of
ones
that
we
wanted
to
speak
about,
and
that
was
the
ada
access
to
the
sidewalk.
We
have
a
totally
fenced
site
out
there.
That's
secure
that
we
don't
necessarily
allow
the
public
to
come
in
and
wander
around,
so
we
were
a
little
bit
concerned
about
putting
a
sidewalk
out
there
and
then
fencing
it
out,
but
in
general
they
anybody,
that's
on
that
site
that
comes
to
that
site
is
escorted
around
the
site.
W
They're
not
allowed
to
just
wander
freely
in
there.
The
reason
for
this
building
is,
they
are
out
of
space
for
manufacturing
they've
been
successful.
They
need
more
space
to
to
work
in
the
building's
a
pretty
simple
building,
we're
willing
to
work
with
staff
on
the
east
elevation.
That
needs
a
little
more
dressing
up
according
to
the
conditions,
so
we're
willing
to
do
that.
W
So
we
plan
on
complying
with
that
code
section
now
there
could
be
runoff
going
down
eisenmann
road,
that's
on
ada,
county
right
away.
That
may
also
be
contributing
to
that
condition
that
we
can't
really
do
anything
about
at
this
time,
and
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
U
B
W
Mr
chairman,
mr
heirsted,
I
think
that
what
we
might
do
is
pop
a
little
bit
of
that
facade
out
of
eight
inches
or
a
foot
or
so,
and
then
change
the
color
on
and
maybe
change
the
direction
of
the
metal
to
give
it
a
little
character.
Maybe
a
canopy
over
the
one
or
two
of
those
entry
doors
that
are
out
there.
Those
are
typically
conditioned
by
the
fire
department
that
we
need
an
access
point
on
an
industrial
building
about
every
hundred
feet.
So
we
have
those
as
more
fire
access
doors.
B
X
X
X
G
U
U
N
U
N
U
G
Y
This
picture
here
is,
I
am
standing
on
the
end
of
blue
lake
lane
in
front
of
a
home
that
you
will
see
in
a
moment,
and
this
is
a
brand
new
light
that
has
been
placed
up,
probably
within
the
last
six
weeks,
or
so
it's
an
led.
It
is
so
bright
that
coming
off
a
blue
lake
lane
driving
at
night,
it
literally
blinds
you
I
have.
I
had
to
stop
the
first
time
this
became
apparent.
I
had
to
stop
and
ask
my
husband:
where
is
the
road
it
totally
blinds?
Y
Y
Y
This
is
just
showing
where
the
light
is
it's
essentially
just
as
that
new
road
they're
going
to
extend
across
from
blue
lake
lane.
It's
a
light
pole
and
and
there's
two
lights,
there's
one
the
light
pole
and
then
you
will
see
another
one.
They
also
mounted
a
similar
light
on
the
edge
of
a
building
that
is
two
as
you're.
Looking
at
this
it's
to
the
further
north
so
and
the
one
thing
about
them
is
they
are
24
7.
they're,
not
on
a
timer.
Y
You
will
see
later
how
bright
it
is,
even
in
the
daytime.
Now
I'm
standing
under
the
pole
of
that
light
that
you
saw
in
the
previous
picture.
This
is
the
home
and
you
can
see
how
close
that
home
is
to
that
light.
Those
are
the
woman's
two
bedroom
windows.
That's
the
only
two
bedrooms
you
have,
as
you
can
see,
standing
from
that
light
pole.
Y
Y
These
are
two
homes
on
blue
lake
lane
and
the
back
of
those
homes.
You
can
barely
see
trinity,
but
if
you
look
between
the
homes,
trinity
has
a
hole,
and
I
have
a
future
picture-
a
whole
host
of
lights
across
their
buildings
that
face
eisenmen,
none
of
them
appear
or
most
of
them
appear.
They
do
not
have
any
shading,
they
do
not
face
down.
They
face
out
right
into
our
residents.
Y
This
is
the
one
light
right
across
from
blue
lake
lane.
This
is
in
the
middle
of
the
day
and
you
can
see
how
bright
it's,
showing
even
in
daylight
hours,
it
kind
of
looks
like
kind
of
it
never
turns
off,
it's
kind
of
a
down
and
dirty,
and
it
has
the
led
facing
in
all
directions.
So
it's
affecting
all
the
homes
across
the
street
next
slide.
Please.
Y
This
is
the
other
light.
It
didn't
show
on
the
diagram
to
the
north,
and
you
can
see
the
different
values
you
have
more
of
a
warm
light
up
higher
to
the
left,
and
then
you
have
another
exact
type
led
light
and
two
things
is
the
led
light.
Once
again,
I
will
show
you
a
picture
right
across
the
street,
I'm
standing
by
the
homes
it's
shining
right
into
their
homes.
Y
Now
all
the
other
lighting
that
was
pre-existing
that
one
light
to
the
upper
left,
it
is
so
bright
and
doesn't
go
down,
doesn't
have
shielding
that's
the
one
that
goes
all
the
way
through
a
storage
area
our
street
and
into
people's
backyards
and
homes.
We
really
need
to
have
the
lighting
situation
addressed
for
existing
and
these
new
two
lights
and
therefore
any
future
lighting
like
amazon
and
others.
This
was
an
issue
and
they
were
required
to
put
down
lighting,
and
I
think
this
needs
to
be
addressed
here
for
us
next
slide.
Y
Y
This
is
an
overview
of
our
residential
area,
there's
about
200
homes
and
there's
a
quality
of
life
life
that
we
continually.
We
try
to
work
with
the
commercial
and
many
cases.
They've
done
wonderful
jobs.
We
have
no
complaints,
but
in
this
particular
situation
it
the
project,
do
the
erosion,
the
situation.
The
lighting
situation
is
really
affecting
the
quality
of
life
of
our
neighborhood.
X
Mr
gas,
on
the
very
far
end,
the
south
end
of
eisemann
they
put
in
a
pretty
nice
drainage
system
and
they
also
draped
it
with
you
could
see
it
was
going
to
turn
into
some
grass,
but,
as
you
can
see
from
the
picture,
lake
is
usually
blue,
like
that,
and
it's
definitely
not
just
trinity.
There's
a
drainage
problem
there,
but
hopefully
see
ccdc
is
working
with
us
currently
and
they
have
an
engineer.
X
B
W
W
G
B
N
B
V
G
V
B
Yep
appears
like
there's
are
some
probably
some
of
the
photos,
some
non-conforming
lights
that
are
shining
directly
towards
the
neighborhood.
So
we'd
certainly
encourage
the
applicant
to
talk
with
the
owner
to
resolve
that
issue.
But
since
that
is
on
the
adjacent
parcel,
if
needed
go
through
the
route
as
caitlin.
K
I
That's
not
something
that
I
would
ever
want
to
see
regardless
of
location.
So
I
would
highly
encourage
the
applicant
to
remedy
that
as
quickly
as
possible
and
the
neighborhood
association,
if
that's
within
the
right-of-way
talking
achd
about
that
is,
and
city
of
boise,
has
erosion,
control
permitting
and
inspectors.
That
will
definitely
go
out
and
inspect
that
type
of
thing
as
well.
I
Scene,
mr
chair,
yes,
but
just
to
follow
up
on
my
motion
for
approval
again.
That
is
not
the
gloss
over
anything
that
needs
to
be
addressed
by
the
applicant
on
existing
structures,
existing
issues
within
the
roadway,
I'm
hoping
that
they
do
take
the
opportunity
they've
indicated
that
they
will
to
have
a
discussion
with
the
neighborhood
association
to
alleviate
those
issues.
This
neighborhood
has
dealt
with
a
lot
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
We've
all
been
a
part
of
that
or
most
of
us
sitting
up
here
we're
a
part
of
that
too.
B
I
B
G
A
All
right,
mr
chairman,
I
think
everyone
is
kind
of
back
in
the
room.
Just
as
a
refresher,
you
had
finished
up
public
testimony,
it's
kind
of
up
to
you.
If
you
want
to
continue
some
public
testimony
and
see
if
anybody
wanted
to
speak
more
or
you
could
go
into
deliberations,
if
you
felt
like
you
had
received
the
information
you
need
so
I'll.
Let
you
take
it
from
here.
B
H
Does
that
mean
that
the
project
is
the
whole
is
up
for
discussion,
at
least
within
the
parameters
of
the
the
work
session
and,
as
that
essentially
starts
back
at
square
one
in
terms
of
public
testimony
committee
testimony
and
questioning.
Where
does
that
kind
of
put
us
back?
You
know
like
square
three
and
a
half
where
we're
just
about
to
come
to
a
decision
for
my
own
edification.
Would
you
briefly
go
into
that
yeah.
B
B
G
B
A
A
B
A
H
A
Mr
chairman
committee
member
said,
I
think,
that's
fair
commentary.
I
mean
the
sign.
Ordinance,
you
know,
is
what
it
is
and
it's
not
up
for
debate
tonight,
but
you
know
I
think,
commentary
on
on
that
is
appropriate
and
and
can
influence
how
we
move
forward.
You
know
you,
you
probably
know
we're
rewriting
our
code,
we're
going
to
re-look
at
these
things
and
we'll
take
that
into
consideration.
I
I
We
have
touching
on
the
sign
stuff
too,
and
I
think
we
got
a
little
bit
of
feedback
from
the
applicant
regarding
you
know
they
just
identified
some
locations.
They
could
put
signs,
not
that
all
of
them
would
have
signs.
I
think
that
it
would
we'd
be
hard
pressed
to
approve
every
single
sign
location
that
they
showed
with
a
sign
on
it.
I
I
B
B
I
Yes,
I
would
agree
with
that.
I
think
that
my
concern
was
primarily
for
the
north
side
with
the
original
application
and
they
did
come
back
with
some
additional
planter
boxes
that
allow
for
shorter
time
frame
to
get
that
vegetation
up
the
building,
and
I
feel
like
the
corner
of
4th
and
idaho,
with
the
vertical
component
of
the
plantings
within
those
planter
boxes.
B
Otherwise
I
appreciate
the
applicant
bringing
in
the
materials
kind
of
outlining
the
vtac
and
being
in
the
dark,
colored
middle.
I
think
that
does
conceal
those
in
a
tasteful
way.
The
other
kind
of
comments
I
heard
tonight
to
some
of
the
balconies
on
the
new
units.
I
think
we
just
kind
of
saw
another
application
that
didn't
have
many
for
exterior
options
and
with
both
of
those
projects
having
other
outside
outdoor
amenity
areas
for
the
residents.
I'm
fine
with
that
solution
that,
as
presented
by
the
applicant
tonight,.
H
B
I
agree
with
you
that
I
think
yeah
from
street
level
looking
vertically,
that
is
a
plane
of
surface
that
you
see
more
of
so.
I
think
that
again
I
don't
know
that
it's
something
that
I
would
condition,
but
something
maybe
I
would
suggest,
but
I'm
open
to
what
the
other
committee
members
think
about
that
as
well.
B
B
B
B
B
I
don't
know
that
that's
a
condition
at
this
time,
but
as
well
as
being
aware
of
those
two
entrance
exits
where
you
do
want
lighting
for
safety
reasons,
but
to
try
to
keep
the
light
from
spilling
out
over
and
being
being
a
nuisance.
So
those
are
my
thoughts
any
other
thoughts
from
the
committee
member
or
maybe
want
to
entertain
a
motion
on
the
work
session
tonight.
C
Just
one
last
question
for
staff
josh
on
the
we
know
that
the
plant
materials
on
the
the
north
side
are
going
to
be
is
the
ivy,
and
yet
it's
undetermined.
Yet
on
the
east
side
and
north
side
or
the
east
side,
what
the
inboard
planting
materials
will
be.
Is
that
something
that
the
staff,
once
the
applicant
has
got
more
information
on
that
will
provide
to
you
and
you
have
somebody
qualified
to
look
at
it
to
determine
if
it's
appropriate
and
viable?
C
A
Chairman,
that
is
a
level
of
detail
that
we
will
review
with
building
permits.
You
know
we
will
have
a
complete
building
package
that
would
include
the
plant
materials
in
those.
If
there
are
some
specific
parameters
you
would
like
placed
around
those
plants
in
terms
of
height,
you
know
a
mix
of
evergreen
and
deciduous.