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From YouTube: Design Review Committee Hearing
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March 9, 2022
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west
ash
creek
street
construction
of
a
new
town
home
development,
consisting
of
128
units
in
26
buildings
with
associated
site
improvements
on
property
in
our
3d
multi-family
residential
zone,
is
the
applicant
present.
Yes,
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval,
the
let
it
let
the
records
show
that
the
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
the
conditions
of
approval?
Are
there
any
members
of
the
public
wishing
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item.
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J
But
in
this
case
the
applicant
is
using
the
housing
bonus,
ordinance
incentives
in
city
code,
so
they
are
provide
providing
affordable
units
and
they
meet
the
criteria
of
less
than
25
total
units
in
their
project
and
they're,
also
within
one
block
of
an
arterial
roadway.
So
that
allows
for
review
through
the
administrative
design
review
process.
Instead
of
going
to
that
planning
and
zoning
public
hearing
and
no
neighborhood
meeting
is
required,
the
city
does
mail
notice
of
approval
to
everyone
within
300
feet.
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J
They
are
not
utilizing
the
density
bonus
so
just
in
the
standard
code,
26
units
would
be
allowed
with
the
incentive
there's
no
density
cap,
so
they
could
have
quite
a
few
more
units
but
they're
only
proposing
the
17
units,
which
is
just
below
what
the
standard
code
would
allow,
there's
also
a
height
incentive
and
they're
not
taking
advantage
of
that
either.
So
the
base
code
would
allow
35
feet.
J
The
second
ground
for
appeal
that
was
mentioned
was
that
the
project
does
not
comply
with
the
site,
design
findings
relating
to
traffic
impacts.
We
did
receive
the
achd
approval
of
the
project.
They
required
right-of-way
dedication
along
eustic,
road
for
future
road
widening
and
closing
of
an
existing
curb
cut
not
being
used
the
base
based
on
the
ite
trip
generation
manual
when
compared
to
commercial
uses
going
in
the
existing
buildings.
This
is
actually
anticipated
to
have
less
vehicle
trips
with
the
multi-family
project
proposed.
J
So
there
was
no
additional
traffic
mitigation
required.
The
applicant
is
providing
the
20
required
parking
spaces
on
the
site
which
meets
boise
city
boise
city
code.
With
that
20
allowed
reduction,
there's
also
existing
sidewalk
along
you
stick
and
the
applicant
is
providing
a
pedestrian
connection
into
the
site.
So
staff
believes
that
traffic
impacts
have
been
minimized
and
pedestrians
and
cyclists
have
been
provided
for.
J
J
And
the
massing
of
the
building
is
substantially
less
than
that
allowed
by
the
zone.
The
applicant
has
proposed
that
peak
height
of
28
feet,
which
is
under
the
35
foot
height
max
only
17
units
were
proposed
where
technically
unlimited
density
would
be
allowed.
The
building
features
a
number
of
design
elements
that
enhance
the
building
and
relate
to
the
surrounding
development.
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K
We
also
are
choosing
to
try
to
keep
our
density
to
a
relatively
lower
allowance
than
what
is
currently
allowed
on
the
on
the
property
right
now
we
are
at
about
28.2
units
per
acre
and
we'd
be
allowed
43
and
a
half,
and
it
just
the
site,
isn't
really
responsive
to
that.
So
we're
we're
still
getting
a
fairly
good
density,
but
it's
lower
than
what
would
be
allowed
with.
That
said,
you
know
we
worked
with.
L
I've
been
in
that
location
for
40
years.
I
suppose
I'm
the
guy
they
really
like
to
get
rid
of,
but
nobody
in
the
neighborhood,
maybe
exception
of
one
person,
is
for
this
development
at
all
and
it
probably
would
get
into
some
litigation.
I
would
threaten
that,
but
I
probably
guarantee
it
and
I
can't
understand
why
they
don't
come
back
with
a
decent
commercial
design
to
renovate
and.
L
Keep
it
within
the
scope
of
the
covenants
of
the
subdivision,
which
says
that
you
can't
have
any
covenants
if
they're
still
valid,
and
I
don't
know
why
they
wouldn't
be.
There's
been
no
meetings
against
that,
but
you
can't
have
any
residential
in
there.
That's
putting
it
right
in
the
center
of
a
commercial
development
and
the
traffic
is
going
to
be
unbelievable.
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M
Good
evening,
I'm
going
to
write
a
letter,
or
I'm
going
to
read
a
letter
from
a
opposing
neighbor
that
their
property
directly
backs
this
proposal.
Project
literally
15
feet
away
is
their
backyard.
So
I'll
start
with
that,
I
am
writing
oh
and
she
is
present
as
well.
I
am
writing
sorry
about
that.
I'm
writing
to
this
committee
to
strongly
express
my
opposition
to
the
proposed
building
project
which
not
only
directly
affects
my
immediate
family,
but
also
that
of
my
longtime
neighbors.
M
My
backyard
fence
runs
adjacent
to
the
current
commercial
building,
where
chrysalis,
architectural
and
planning
are
intending
to
build
an
apartment
complex
facing
my
property.
If
this
plan
comes
to
fruition,
I
will
have
six
new
family
residential
units
facing
my
home,
with
the
stone's
throw
of
my
fence
line.
This
proposed
construction
project
will
be
intruding
on
my
privacy
and
devaluing
my
property
considerably.
M
If
this
property
is
to
be
built,
we
will
have
to
succumb
to
additional
problems
such
as
residents,
not
keeping
to
noise
ordinances,
increased
traffic
flow
potential,
crime,
increased
litter
and
a
multitude
of
other
facets
of
compressing
17
units
in
such
a
small
area.
In
addition,
I
lose
the
freedom
of
sitting
in
my
backyard
with
my
grandchildren
without
having
residents
looking
in
or
down
into
my
yard
and
being
intrusive
of
my
privacy.
M
Additionally,
because
I
am
on
a
fixed
income,
I
cannot
afford
to
sell
my
property
based
on
the
current
market
conditions
and
escalating
price
points.
I
strongly
and
emphatically
feel
that
my
property
will
be
devalued
in
the
case
of
a
potential
sale
in
part
due
not
to
wanting
to
purchase
a
home
next
to
an
apartment
complex.
I
implore
you
and
urge
you
to
view
the
points
of
view
of
not
only
myself
but
those
of
my
neighbors
that
feel
just
as
strongly
opinionated.
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N
Diane
oliva
and
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
and
my
husband,
mr
stan
oliva.
We
live
at
6704
west
san
fernando
drive.
We
also
have
a
home
for
almost
40
years
now
directly
in
back
of
the
proposed
area
of
the
apartment
buildings,
and
I
think
that
carmen
spoke
to
it
very
well.
So
I
won't
go
over
any
of
those
points,
but
it
is
most
definitely
were
all
one
story
along
that
line.
It
is
an
intrusion
of
our
privacy
and
it
is
windows
and
doors
that
will
face
all
our
properties.
N
N
My
passion
is
to
find
appropriate
homes
and
appropriate
places
of
play
for
those
children
and
those
people
who
have
so
much
less
than
we
have
here
in
this
room,
the
less
fortunate
this
proposal
sticks
and,
I
would
say,
shoves
an
apartment
complex
in
a
all
concrete
20
car
spaces
and
17
apartments.
In
that
space.
Where
will
the
children
go?
N
I
can
tell
you
the
first
thing
is
they're
going
to
find
a
place
and
that
eustic
road
is
already
so
busy
that
it
is
over.
They
were
saying
that
when
I
say
they,
the
transportation
department
says
you
should
not
have
more
than
18
500
cars
on
a
two-way
road
on
a
three-way
road.
That's
a
two-way
road
and
we're
way
over
that
those
kids
will
find
a
place
to
play
and
their
balls
and
cars
their
balls,
their
bikes,
their
play
equipment.
It's
going
out
in
that
road.
That
is
not
a
safe
place.
N
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D
O
O
Yeah
this
is
alicia
seastone
and
I'm
at
6720,
west
san
fernando
drive,
boise,
idaho
83704
and
I
just
first
of
all
want
to
say
agree
with
every
single
one
of
my
neighbors
and
being
a
parent
myself
that
has
a
child
that
gets
on
the
bus,
stop
right
there.
I
can't
even
imagine
how
she's
even
gonna,
you
know
she's
an
eight-year-old
child,
how
it's
gonna
impact.
You
know
my
children
in
this
quiet
neighborhood,
where
we've
lived
as
well.
You
know,
I
think
there
are
definitely
a
lot
better
solutions
as
a
realtor.
O
O
You
know
you
have
your
representative
there,
but
we
all
know
who's
tried
to
propose
this
before
and
to
go
in
and
say
you're
going
to
provide
low
income
housing
and
it's
what
not
even
half
of
the
units
to
me
I
just
yeah.
I
don't
agree
that
they're
really
doing
the
right
thing
and
for
the
right
reasons
and
following
the
right
protocol
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
D
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P
K
East
presidential
meridian
83642,
you
know
this
project
is
it's
an
infill
site?
Obviously,
we
we've
tried
to
accommodate
a
number
of
things
with
this
particular
development
that
we
think
are
relatively
important,
one
of
which
is
utilizing
an
existing
building.
We
heard
from
the
adjacent
property
owner
that
owns
the
other
portion
of
the
building
that
we're
that
we're
a
part
of
we
think
it's.
K
You
know,
part
of
our
process
was
we
had.
We
had
to
give
up
a
certain
amount
of
our
our
property
for
achd,
right
away,
which
I
think
ended
up
being
about
16
feet.
So
achd
has
a
capital
improvement
plan
that
will
accommodate
additional
sidewalks
bike
lanes
and
an
additional
traffic
safety
hazards
that
will
mitigate
a
lot
of
those
concerns.
I
feel
like
in
the
future
right
now.
What
we're
dealing
with
on
our
particular
property
is
is
just
giving
up
that
portion
to
allow
achd
to
make
those
decisions
in
the
future.
K
C
C
That
seems
to
be
in
conflict
with
some
private
ccnr's
and
again,
as
stated
by
caitlin,
we
don't
really
have
purview
over
private
agreements
and
ccnrs
and
traffic
and
parking.
I
mean
parking
standards
for
the
number
of
stalls
we
can
look
at,
but
traffic
in
general
is
not
again
under
our
purview
and
it
neither
is
the
really
the
land
use.
I
mean
it's
that's
a
planning
and
zoning
issue
and
it
went
administratively
through
the
city.
They,
you
know,
go
through
every
department
and
have
them
review
it
for
consistency
and
applicability
of
those
codes.
C
So
I
understand
there's
a
disagreement
between
the
neighborhood
and
the
applicant
as
to
whether
or
not
the
use
is
allowed
from
our
standpoint
and
from
the
city's
design
review
staff
standpoint
that
the
project's
met
all
the
requirements
that
it
needs
to.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
really
have
much
that
we
can
change
about
the
approval
that
was
issued
with
the
appellant.
C
F
Mr
chair,
yes,
I
I
agree
with
committee
member
semple
everything
I've
heard
tonight
is
really
a
pnz
issue
and
not
a
design
review
issue
with
the
exception
of
some
concern
about
the
height
of
the
building,
and
we
know
that
this
is
an
allowed
height
for
this
site.
And,
frankly,
I
am
very
familiar
with
that
area.
F
I
would
think
that
a
two-story
building
would
protect
the
neighborhood
from
the
noise
of
you
stick,
and
you
know
we
all
know
that
nobody
likes
change
and
when
you
buy
your
house
40
years
ago,
you
expect
everything
to
be
the
same
40
years
from
now.
But
this
is
a
growing
city
and
this
apartment
com,
it's
not
even
a
complex.
F
E
J
J
We
have
a
state
state,
transit,
oriented
development
plan
that
calls
for
higher
density
residential
uses
along
state
street,
which
will
support,
transit
and
the
adjacent
commercial
uses.
We
have
commercial
uses
on
either
side
of
state
street
along
a
single
family,
residential
neighborhood
to
the
north,
and
then
we
have
taft
elementary
school
located
to
the
east.
J
J
J
J
J
This
shows
some
pathways
and
the
connections
they're
establishing
around
the
site,
so
they
will
be
constructing
a
12-foot,
wide
multi-use
pathway
along
state
street
and
that'll
kind
of
create
a
better
pedestrian
environment
along
state
street,
and
then
they
also
are
providing
a
connection
from
arthur
street
into
that
community.
Existing
community
garden
on
the
elementary
school
site
here
is
kind
of
a
rendered
landscape,
including
the
courtyard.
J
J
J
R
Good
evening
for
the
record,
I'm
shelan
rodriguez
with
smr
development,
520
west
idaho
street,
here
in
boise,
it's
nice
to
see
you.
I
will
be
very
brief.
Caitlyn
do
you
have
the
present?
Oh,
the
presentation's
up.
Sorry,
I
was
looking
at
the
wrong
screen
just
giving
a
quick
background
on
the
project.
It's
obviously
affordable,
housing
caitlyn
mentioned
it's
a
city,
housing,
land,
trust
site,
we're
using
the
housing
bone,
bonus
ordinance,
which
you've
heard
a
lot
about
this
evening.
R
R
The
partnership
consists
of
the
pacific
companies,
which
is
an
eagle
idaho,
based
developer
myself
with
smr
development,
I'm
a
very
small
redevelopment
and
affordable
housing
consultant
firm
and
then
our
team,
our
design
team,
led
by
gglo
who's
here
tonight,
but
we
have
a
long
history
of
creating
affordable
housing,
not
only
in
the
valley
here,
but
also
around
the
country.
Pacific
has
over
14
000,
affordable
units
all
across
the
western
united
states.
R
R
So
that's
who
we
are
next
slide
and
then
just
the
history.
I
think
it's
important
for
everyone
here
to
realize
what
we've
sort
of
been
through-
and
I
say
we
very
holistically,
including
the
city
with
first
purchasing
this
site
and
noting
that
it
would
be
a
site
for
affordable
housing.
Back
in
the
summer
of
2020.,
the
city
went
through
a
public
process
to
get
community
feedback
and
then
did
a
very
competitive
request
for
proposals
from
developers.
R
But
I
don't
know
the
newly
formed
urban
renewal
district,
I'm
not
sure
that
design
review
had
seen
it
or
not.
So
that
brings
us
to
where
we
are
today
and
hopefully
after
we
get
through
approvals,
we'll
be
able
to
finance
the
project
this
spring.
It's
a
public
private
financing,
projection
as
well,
and
then
construction
will
start
thereafter
12
to
18
months.
E
S
S
We've
been
a
partnership
with
in
the
city
of
boise,
including
right
out
front
here,
the
boise
city
hall
plaza
and
sherry
webb
buckner
park,
which
are
beloved
city
icons,
but
just
to
set
the
stage
of
where
we
are
we're
along
state
street,
the
transit
oriented
corridor
here,
we're
adjacent
to
taft
elementary
and
the
veterans
memorial
park.
So
we
have
great
open
spaces
nearby
and
a
great
relationship
with
the
taft
elementary
school.
That's
that
will
be
in
the
backyard
of
this
development.
S
Next
slide,
zooming
in
a
little
closer
here,
just
looking
at
what's
happening
along
state
street.
You
know
it's
been
recently
improved.
We
talked
about
the
the
multi-use
trail
which
will
be
developed
as
part
of
this
development,
the
proximity
to
taft
elementary,
the
the
buses
that
will
be
along
state
street.
There
will
be
a
bus,
stop
literally
the
front
door
of
this
project
and
then
close
proximity
to
a
retail
grocery
store
and
jobs
all
throughout
the
city.
S
The
former
smoky
davis
site
you
may
be
familiar
with
the
upper
upper
right
side
is
looking
along
state
street
to
the
north
at
the
existing
sidewalk
condition
where
skin
is,
is
going
to
be
widened
and
improved
with
that
multi-use
trail.
The
view
in
the
lower
lower
left
is
what's
going
to
be
the
view
from
the
upper
levels
of
this
development
of
the
foothills
and
then
the
lower
right
is
the
view
of
the
community
garden
which
is
going
to
be
in
in
the
backyard
of
this
new
development.
S
T
T
The
majority
of
the
first
floor
is
structured
parking
and
bike
parking,
all
of
which
is
screened
from
view
along
arthur
next
slide,
and
then
the
upper
floors
there's
four
stories
of
affordable
apartments.
It's
a
mix
of
studios
ones,
twos
and
three
bedrooms
targeting
workforce
and
family
residence
and
that's
arranged
in
a
u-shape
around
that
courtyard.
T
The
majority
of
the
the
primary
massing
the
taller
massing
is
held
towards
state
street,
with,
with
the
tallest
point
identifying
the
entrance.
The
primary
entrance,
the
overall
mass
is,
is
broken
down
with
a
series
of
offset
planes
that
are
articulated
in
contrasting
materials
to
set
up
that
rhythm.
As
you
move
around
the
sides
of
the
building.
T
D
T
We
were
limited
by
we.
It
takes
advantage
of
the
housing
bonus
ordinance
to
get
to
the
55
feet
to
maximize
the
the
density
of
the
site,
there's
a
couple
of
areas
that
we
actually
asked
for
an
increase
at
planning
and
zoning
on
monday
to
provide
not
only
adequate
ceiling
heights
and
clearances
in
the
garage,
but
to
further
articulate
the
difference
between
the
massings
and
varying
those
parapet
heights.
T
D
P
P
P
A
five-story
complex
like
that
in
a
tiny
little
space,
because
that's
where
smokey
davis
used
to
be-
and
it's
not
that
big
and
the
idea
of
five
stories
and
the
question:
how
are
they
gonna
get
on
state
street?
Because
the
only
way
you
can
get
out
on
state
street
from
arthur
is
to
go
right
to
go
west.
You
can't
get
back
on
state
street
from
there.
P
You'd
have
to
go
through
taft
subdivision
to
get
back
in
to
state
street
unless
they're
going
to
redo
that
whole
area
there
that
they
just
put
in
a
year
ago
I
mean
the
traffic
through.
The
subdivision
would
be
out
of
sight
unless
they're
all
going
to
go
west
and
then
go
down
a
ways
and
turn
around
and
come
back
if
they
have
to
go
to
town
and
the
idea
of
102
units
in
a
small
little
area.
P
P
D
U
The
zoning's
appropriate
the
site
may
be
small,
but
this
is
an
incredible
reuse
to
be
able
to
provide
access
consistent
with
our
plans,
and
I
appreciate
sheldon's
team
because
doing
affordable
housing
is
hard.
It
is
not
easy
it
there
are.
There
are
concessions
that
you
have
to
make
in
the
process
and
I'm
impressed
with
the
size
of
the
units
that
they've
proposed
I'm
impressed
with
the
amenities,
and
I
think
this
is
a
phenomenal
project.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
V
Justin
foster
2502
north
arthur
street,
so
I
am
the
the
house
that's
directly
to
the
north
of
this
project
and
to
go
back
to
what
that
mr
wardle
said
this.
This
was
zoned
c2,
so
they
had
to
get
variances
to
just
build
this
high
in
this
big
in
the
first
place
and
they're
not
taking
into
account.
This
building
casts
a
78
foot
shadow
to
the
north,
which
will
cover
my
entire
63-foot
lot
all
day
long
and
you
know
they're
they're,
making
all
this
these
design.
P
V
V
T
I
D
T
Yeah,
so
a
couple
of
responses
to
that
one
as
achd
did
improve
this
street.
They
did
restrict
that
intersection
to
be
a
right
turn.
Only
leaving
out
of
arthur
the
the
building
sets
the
entrance
to
the
garage
back
away
from
that
intersection
to
keep
it
a
safe
distance
from
the
intersection
and
relies
on
its
its
location
and
proximity
to
transit
as
a
transit,
oriented
development
to
have
a
reduced
vehicular
use
by
the
residents.
R
Just
to
add
one
of
the
things
that
I
always
tell
folks,
because
change
is
hard
and
traffic
does
occur
when
you
bring
homes,
is
that
when
you
know
who
the
developer
is,
and
we
are
long-term
owners,
so
we'll
be
owning
this
for
the
next,
we
will
be
owning
the
development
itself,
not
the
land.
The
city
will
stick
with
the
land,
but
for
the
next
75
years.
So
what
that
means
is
when
there
are
traffic
problems-
and
I
say
that
to
the
neighbors
online
watching
and
that
are
in
the
room.
R
Is
you
have
somebody
to
call?
It's
not
somebody,
that's
in
california
or
pittsburgh
that
you
can't
reach
you've
got
us.
We've
got
a
property
manager
on
site,
we
can
have
signage
for
towing
and
it's
really
about
managing
the
parking.
It's
not
easy
to
have
change
in
your
neighborhood
and
it's
not
easy
to
have
more
traffic,
but
I
think
when
you
know
who
the
long-term
owner
is,
it
makes
it
makes
it
a
little
bit
less
painful.
Perhaps.
D
D
G
Mr
chairman,
just
some
opening
comments.
Yes
to
get
the
conversation
going,
I
think
the
of
the
presentation,
the
slide
that
I
most
caught
my
eye
at
the
most
was
the
30
000
foot
level
looking
at
this
project
in
context
of
the
amenities
that
are
around
it
with
the
parks,
the
retail,
the
other
commercial
amenities.
G
When
you,
when
you
look
at
that
being
on
a
major
transportation
corridor,
it
I
think
it's
going
to
be
in
some
ways:
it's
going
to
de-incentivize
the
use
of
the
cars
they're
going
to
be
walking,
biking,
getting
mass
transit
in
the
bus
and
that
so
I'm
not
so
concerned
about
that.
I
do
think
it's
a
well-designed
project
for
a
very
tight
constricted
site
and
that
they've
done
a
lot
both
for
that
particular
corner
for
the
immediate
school
property
trying
to
be
a
good
neighbor
there
and
working
with
that.
G
D
B
D
C
Yeah,
I
think
I
agree
in
part.
I
think
that
they're,
you
know,
for
the
current
residents
a
transition
to
a
little
bit
lower
level
would
be
helpful.
But
ultimately
we
are
looking
at
this
as
the
transit
oriented
development
corridor
of
state
street
that
I
mean,
while
there's
single-family
homes
there.
Now
there
was
single-family
homes
directly
on
state
street
that
are
no
longer
there
that
are
developing
as
multi-family
residential,
commercial.
C
That's
just
an
unattainable
thing,
so
I
I
do
really
like
the
project
a
lot.
I
think
the
design
is
great.
I
understand
the
need
for
potentially
transitioning
down
in
height,
but
I
don't
know
if
I
could
make
that
choice
with
the
elimination
of
you
know,
anywhere
from
five
to
ten
families
being
able
to
live
in
boise
versus
an
outside
community
and
having
a
drive
in
to
get
services
where
they
could
live
here
and
walk
bike
to
schools,
grocery
stores.
F
Chair,
yes,
I
agree
with
committee
member
sample
about
housing
as
many
people
as
possible,
and
I
don't
think
that
a
building
of
this
size
requires
step
down
five
stories.
Isn't
that
tall?
It's
not
much
taller
than
a
two-story
home
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,
and
I
very
much
appreciate
the
straight
lines
of
the
roof.
We
often
this.
F
E
W
At
818
west
anne
morrison
park
drive,
so
I
thought
I
would
start
quickly
with
the
scope
of
work
that's
proposed
here,
so
it's
going
to
be
another
five-story
building,
it's
mixed-use
residential
with
91
units
has
some
ground
floor
commercial
space
and
then
obviously
the
site
improvements
so
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
context
to
start.
So
we
have
our
aerial
map
here.
It
is
in
the
lust
street
master
plan
or
their
lusk
street
district.
W
Again
it's
in
the
lusk
street
master
plan.
So
it's
located
right
here.
So
that's
the
area
that
we're
dealing
with
so
here
is
the
site
plan
that
is
proposed.
So
it's
got
those
five
stories.
It's
supposed
to
be
student
housing
is
the
plan.
It's
got
internal
parking
that
is
accessed
off
of
west
sherwood
street.
That
access
point
is
right
here.
It's
also
got
some
surface
parking
located
to
the
east
a
little
bit
just
a
few
spots.
W
Those
are
actually
going
to
be
shared
with
those
shops
that
are
located
to
the
southeast.
Most
of
the
parking
for
this
building
will
be
located
in
a
podium.
It's
on
the
ground
floor
here,
as
you
can
see
it's
internal
to
the
south
on
the
ground
floor,
you
can
see
that
there's
a
coffee
shop,
that's
proposed,
so
we
have
a
little
bit
of
commercial
use
there
as
well
to
help
activate
that
streetscape
against
lusk.
We
have
some
amenity
space
for
the
residences
of
the
residence
that's
located
internally.
W
We
also
have
some
streetscape,
that's
provided
on
three
here
and
then
this
internal
space
will
have
some
landscaping.
So
I'll
show
in
a
second
right
here
to
the
north
is
where
we
have
our
trash
locations.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
service
staging
area
there,
so
there'll
be
some
internal
trash
area.
That's
this
little
room
here
and
then
those
trash
enclosures
will
be
rolled
out
to
the
staging
area
for
pickup.
The
applicant
has
worked
really
closely
with
our
solid
waste
department
in
order
to
reduce
the
impact
of
the
service
requirements
for
this
property.
W
W
However,
one
requirement
of
the
capitol
street
capital
boulevard
special
design
district
is
that
there's
two
rows
of
deciduous
trees,
so
that
means
a
row
on
either
side
of
the
sidewalk
given
constraints
here
that
isn't
entirely
possible.
The
solution
that
the
applicant
has
provided
instead
is
that
they
provide
trees
wherever
there's
a
large
enough
planting
bed,
so
they
are
smaller,
caliper
trees,
but
are
provided
in
quite
a
few
places
on
site
in
order
to
as
closely
adhere
to
that
requirement
as
possible.
W
W
This
is
just
a
closer
view
of
the
ground
floor.
That's
proposed
so
again,
we've
got
that
coffee
shop.
We
have
bicycle
parking
in
two
places
up
on
the
northwest
corner
and
then
over
next
to
the
coffee
shop,
and
then
again
this
is
the
amenity
area
for
the
residents
and
then
on
the
ground
floor,
some
parking,
then
our
trash
area
to
the
north
on
the
other
floors
they're
all
relatively
similar.
W
So
I
just
included
one
floor
plan
here
for
you,
we
have
a
variety
of
different
unit
types
that
are
being
provided,
different
kinds
of
suites
that
are
available
and
then
obviously
some
common
spaces
as
well.
Since
it
is
a
student
housing
project,
then
we
get
to
our
elevations.
So
these
are
some
of
the
proposed
elevations.
W
This
first
one
is
the
south
elevation.
So
that's
the
one
that's
facing
ann
morrison
park
drive
as
you
can
see,
there's
quite
a
bit
of
modulation,
provided
there
both
vertical
and
then
roof
line,
modulation
with
those
corners
on
each
corner
of
this
building
really
clearly
articulated
and
given
a
different
roof
type
in
order
to
have
them
stand
out,
as
well
as
some
canopies
that
move
up
the
building
that
draw
the
eye
up.
W
This
is
our
south
elevation
or
sorry
north
elevation.
Now
so
that's
against
sherwood.
Again,
you
see
pretty
similar
designs
here
on
most
of
the
building
on
the
ground
floor,
there's
more
screening
provided
for
the
parking
area.
However,
on
the
corner,
you
do
see
that
we've
provided
weather
protection
over
where
that
trash
enclosure
area
is
going
to
be.
W
So
this
is
just
a
3d
view,
rendering
for
you
to
show
what
that
design
is
going
to
look
like
on
the
northeast
perspective.
Again,
you
see
lots
of
aluminum
storefront
system
and
then
those
canopies
that
go
up
the
building
as
well
as
some
window
patterning.
You
get
to
see
the
vertical
modulation
a
little
bit
better
at
this
field.
W
W
So
the
suggested
conditions
of
approval
that
staff
have
has
provided
are
some
bicycle
parking
conditions
which
are
fairly
standard.
Providing
trees
were
possible.
You've
already
seen
how
the
applicant
has
done
that
on
that
landscaping
plan.
There
is
quite
a
bit
of
stucco.
That's
used
on
this
building,
so
reducing
the
stucco
to
75
percent
of
the
facade
where
it
faces
a
right-of-way.
W
That's
used
as
an
accent
material
that
does
break
it
up
quite
a
bit
as
well
as
a
lot
of
facade
transparency,
but
just
want
to
ensure
that
we're
meeting
those
calculations
providing
some
pedestrian
elements
of
the
ground
floor,
including
weather
protection
and
then
some
lighting
elements
and
then
providing
the
cross-access
insured
parking
agreement
with
those
shops
to
the
southeast,
as
well
as
providing
a
tree
mitigation
plan,
as
there
is
some
mature
trees
on
the
site
that
will
be
removed
with
that
staff
recommends
approval
with
conditions.
Thank
you.
C
W
Member
symbol,
it
is
an
existing
parking
area.
It
is
being
changed
somewhat,
though
so,
right
now,
there's
a
curb
cut
that
comes
directly
off
capital,
their
capital
they're,
going
to
be
closing
that
off
in
order
to
make
it
less
accessible,
reduce
traffic
problems.
But
there
is
a
parking
area
that
exists
there
now
so
they're,
just
adjusting
it
slightly.
The
same
amount
of
parking,
I
believe,
is
being
put
back,
but
it
does
provide
parking
for
those
shops
to
the
southeast.
So
we
didn't
want
to
remove
it
completely
if
possible.
W
Mr
chair
committee,
member
simple,
there
is
some
existing
ginkgo
trees
that
they're
providing
there.
They
are
trying
to
maintain
them
as
much
as
possible,
so
that
is
existing
landscaping.
They
are
bulking
it
up
a
little
bit
with
some
additional
plantings
there
and
then
obviously
that
streetscape
is
changing
to
be
more
pedestrian
friendly
on
that
corner.
I
D
Q
T.J
wenger
babcock
design,
group
800
west
maine,
suite
940.,
mr
chair
committee,
members.
Thank
you
so
much
for
letting
us
come
before
you
this
evening
and
thank
you
for
your
staff.
They
have
been
fabulous
to
help
us
with
comments
and
working
through
design
criteria
and
decisions
to
get
to
this
point.
So
thank
you
for
your
help.
Michael's
been
wonderful,
just
a
brief
history
and
some
of
the
things
that
we've
done
to
try
to
help
this
be
successful.
Q
My
colleague
jamie
was
fortunate
enough
to
work
on
a
adjacent
property
and
has
good
relationship
with
that
owner
on
another
student
housing
project,
and
they
have
we've
been
able
to
glean
a
lot
of
information
from
that
project
to
help
this
be
successful,
almost
having
that
as
a
guinea
pig
that
we
could
learn
from
so
we've
been
in
great
communication
with
that
owner
to
learn
the
the
fails
and
the
successes
of
those
of
that
project
and
incorporate
the
wins
into
this
one.
So
we
can
better
assure
a
successful
project.
Q
We're
excited
about
the
push
to
lusk
street
district.
We
initially
did
not
have
our
design
there,
but
then,
once
we
understood
the
vision
of
lusk
street,
we
were
able
to
push
all
of
the
students
over
there,
so
we
can
help
activate
that
corridor
and
really
make
that
become
what
the
city
wants
that
to
be
so
we're
excited
about
that
opportunity
as
well.
Q
X
B
Mr
chairman,
yes,
as
this
is
in
the
capitol
boulevard,
special
design
overlay
and
is
going
to
be
the
newest
addition
to
the
highly
visible
projects
along
capitol
boulevard,
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
kind
of
walk
us
through
some
of
your
conceptual
moves.
As
you
were
pulling
this
all
together
in
elevation
and
section
and
just
kind
of
explain
where
your
design
decisions
were
made.
X
B
Q
So
I
appreciate
your
comments.
Committee
member
ersted
on
the
corner
element
there
with
the
coffee
shop.
We
did
bring
glass
around
that
to
accentuate
that
corner.
That
is
a
corner
that
you
do
see
when
you
come
into
the
project
from
on
excuse
me
and
worse
and
and
so
that
that
corner
we
did
add
more
glass
than
the
the
rest
of
the
area
to
accentuate
that
corner
with
the
canopies
at
the
windows,
and
we
were
asked
to
amplify
the
parapets
a
little
bit
more.
Q
We
originally
had
those
similar
to
the
previous
design,
but
we
were
asked
by
staff
to
accentuate
those,
and
so
we
did
the
the
glass
on
the
storefront
at
the
at
the
coffee
shop.
There
is
meant
to
really
make
that
corner,
transparent
and
activated
with
the
with
the
the
lease
tenant
that
will
go
in
there.
At
some
point,
I
see
your
comment
about
the
base
being
disconnected
from
up
above
there,
and
that
was
meant
to
bring
in
a
pedestrian
scale
at
the
coffee,
shop
sidewalk
level
and
then
let
the
housing
above
stand
alone.
Q
Q
We
do
have
it's
interesting.
The
grade
seems
flat,
but
it's
not
flat.
Now,
there's
about
three
feet
of
fall
from
the
east
side
to
the
west,
going
down
the
site
there,
so
we
do
have
stairs
going
up
into
the
amenity
space
and
the
leasing
space
for
the
students,
and
so
that's
got
a
little
bit
of
a
elevated
perspective.
There.
We
do
have
a
patio
up
there.
That's
elevated
with
some
railing
and
some
nice
activation
there
on
lusk
street
side
to
help
activate
that
for
the
students
and
the
city.
D
C
X
D
C
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
not
make
a
motion
immediately,
but
kind
of
start.
The
conversation
off
where
I
feel
like
this
is
another
of
the
projects
that
we
need
to
add
a
condition
about
coming
back
to
a
work
session,
with
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
window
kind
of
window
systems
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
finishes
of
the
materials,
preferably
some
physical
samples
of
some
of
that
stuff.
C
I'm
familiar
with
that
the
lapoint
and
river's
edge
projects.
I've
actually
had
an
office
building
right
across
the
street
from
the
point,
so
I'm
familiar
with
it.
But
I'd
like
to
see
I
mean
since
that's
been
in.
It
sounds
like
you
guys
have
learned
some
or
you've
learned
some
lessons
from
one
another
or
from
that
developer
and
I'd
like
to
see
kind
of
how
that
has
transitioned
into
the
materials
and
and
the
finishes
that
you're
using
on
this
project.
C
I
think
that
it's
good
the
project
is
necessary.
The
student
population
is
vastly
under
housed,
which
is
leading
to
a
lot
of
you
know
three,
four,
five
in
apartments
which
does
not
it's
not
conducive
to
neighborhood
traffic,
and
I
like
sidewalks
with
this
one
that
was
lacking
in
in
the
lost
district.
So
I'm
glad
that
this
is
being
wrapped
with
nice.
Wide
sidewalks
with
really
nice
landscaping
appreciate
that.
C
But
I
I
do
think
that
that
is
going
to
be
a
necessary
condition
to
come
back
before
the
committee,
and
I
think,
50
design
development
would
probably
be
a
good
level,
at
least
so.
We
can
just
get
a
little
bit
more
detail
about
how
that's
those
systems
work
and
just
a
little
bit
more
detail
helps
us
so
that
you
know,
like
I
think
tom
says
all
the
time
that
the
devil's
in
the
details.
C
F
G
D
C
I
just
don't
believe
that,
with
a
project
of
that
is
going
to
make
this
much
a
visual
impact
on
the
capital
boulevard
corridor
and
knowing
that
there
have
been
a
few
projects
that
we
have
approved
that
have
come
through
that
don't
provide
a
level
of
detail
where
we
can
have
a
comfort
level
that
what
we're
approving
is
what
gets
installed
just
a
little
bit
more
clarity
onto
you
know
for
us
to
approve
or
give
a
final
approval
on
the
design
itself.
I
think
it's
important.
C
W
W
So
this
is
the
site
that
we're
talking
about.
It
consists
of
four
parcels
that
are
north
of
discovery
way
and
south
of
ash
creek
street.
They
were
recently
rezoned
into
r3d
as
the
zoning.
Previously
they
were
t1d,
which
is
an
industrial
zone,
as
you
can
see
to
the
north,
it's
primarily
industrial
to
the
south.
W
I
think
the
rest
of
that
for
the
site
plan
is
pretty
self-explanatory.
There's
a
little
bit
of
parking
located
a
little
bit
further
to
the
south
in
the
middle
of
the
development,
but
all
of
the
parking
is
internal
can
talk
about.
This
is
their
rendered
site
plan,
or
at
least
one
that
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
perspective
and
color.
W
You
get
to
see
the
units
a
little
bit
more
clearly
in
the
buildings
themselves
versus
just
those
each
those
individual
units.
There
are
some
gathering
spaces
or
common
spaces,
with
gazebos
over
them
located
internally
to
the
site.
There's
also
some
service
areas
located
internally
within
those
parking
areas,
there's
a
large
landscape
buffer
to
the
south
along
de
meyer
street,
which
buffers
this
larger
density,
development
from
the
single
family,
town
homes
to
the
south
or
single-family
homes.
Excuse
me.
W
I
just
wanted
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
detail
on
what
those
service
areas
look
like,
so
those
are
their
trash
enclosures
and
then
that's
their
gazebo
and
a
little
bit
of
a
site
plan
for
what
those
gazebos
are
going
to
look
like.
As
I
ask
the
applicant
for
additional
information
on
those
two
portions
of
the
site
plan.
W
The
landscape
plan
is
actually
broken
up
into
three
sheets
so
that
we
can
get
some
additional
details.
So
this
is
what
you
might
call
the
view
from
30
000
feet.
You
can
see
the
entire
site
here
and
kind
of
how
the
landscaping
is
laid
out,
but
it
is
broken
up
into
sheets.
So
this
is
sheet
1,
which
is
the
east
western
side
of
the
property
for
the
landscaping.
W
W
Now
we're
going
to
jump
into
the
elevations
and
the
different
unit
types
here.
So
the
first
one
is
the
three
plex.
This
is
the
front
elevations
for
it.
I
do
provide
renderings
later
in
this
presentation,
but
you
can
get
an
idea
here
of
how
the
materials
look
and
also
the
design
it's
a
very
modern,
but
we
do
have
weather
protection.
W
Now
we've
got
our
4-plex
building.
As
you
can
see,
they
provide
a
little
bit
more
facade
transparency
for
these
they're,
a
little
bit
wider
as
well,
and
then
the
entries
which
it's
not
super
clear
from
these
elevations,
but
there
are
recessed
entries
on
the
rear
with
columns,
provided
this
is
the
four
plex
for
the
accessible
building.
It's
a
little
different
than
the
other
fourplex
building,
however,
provides
a
lot
of
the
same
elements
and
then
those
balconies
are
located
in
the
rear.
W
This
is
the
aplex
building,
so
you
get
the
front
and
then
the
side
elevations
here
so
on
the
front
elevations.
You
can
see
that
there
are
those
balconies
really
clearly
on
the
side.
Elevations
you
get
to
see
some
of
those
entries
there.
It's
a
little
unique
to
have
those
flipped,
because
they
do
look
a
little
bit
flipped
in
this
pro
in
these
elevations
that
are
provided.
However,
you
do
see
the
mix
of
materials
and
the
window
patterning
is
repeated
as
well.
W
I
provided
here
some
of
the
colors
that
they're
planning
on
using,
so
we
can
see
the
color
scheme
that's
proposed,
but
it's
a
lot
clearer
in
these
renderings,
so
you
can
see
the
metal
siding.
There
is
integrated
with
both
stucco
and
then
almost
a
faux
chimney,
architectural
design
element
as
well
as
recessed
doors
and
then
some
window
patterning.
This
is
the
three
unit
townhomes.
W
W
W
W
So
we
did
receive
some
comments
from
comprehensive
planning.
They
were
a
little
bit
late
in
order
for
me
to
include
on
my
report,
but
the
suggested
condition
is
that
there
is
a
gravel
portion.
It's
a
gravel
pathway,
that's
located
to
the
south
of
this
site.
It
comes
off
of
de
meyer
street.
It's
part
of
boise's
master
plan
for
pathways.
W
The
gravel
portion
extends
almost
all
the
way
to
that.
Little
connection
over
to
the
west
comprehensive
planning
suggested
that
we
include
a
condition
to
pave
that
area,
at
least
where
it
abuts
the
site
just
to
provide
a
little
bit
more
context
for
you
there.
This
is
what
boise's
pathway
master
plan
provides.
So
you
can
see
the
blue
connection
there
right
above
demeyer
street,
you
see
where
demayer
branches
off
to
the
west
slightly
and
where
we
want
that
pathway
to
run
so
in
the
site
plan.
We
don't
have
it
running
all
the
way
across.
W
The
current
conditions
that
are
provided
are
complying
with
the
conditions
for
their
rezone,
providing
additional
design
features
on
the
side
facades
of
the
eight
unit
buildings.
Just
because
there
was
a
discrepancy
and
what
the
rendering
looked
like
compared
to
the
elevation
just
want
to
ensure
that
we
have
attractive
side,
elevations
on
those
eight
units
and
then
integrating
four
inches
of
contrasting
trim
around
the
windows,
or
else
projecting
or
recessing
the
windows,
which
is
a
design
guideline.
W
W
W
H
W
Mr
chair
committee,
member
aguilar,
so
I
don't
believe
that
it's
a
right-of-way
necessarily
it
is
part
of
the
pathways
master
plan.
I
don't
believe
it's
dedicated
right-of-way,
though
achd
did
have
a
report
that
they
just
got
to
me
today
that
I
uploaded
they
do
talk
about
that
pathway,
but
not
about
any
maintenance
that
they're
going
to
provide
for
it.
H
W
Mr
chair
yeah,
I
believe
it's
similar
to
how
we
treat
other
right-of-way
improvements,
but
it
isn't
right-of-way,
so
I'm
I'm
not
sure
exactly
who
would
be
taking
care
of
it.
Maybe
80
achds
per
view.
They
do
talk
about
it
in
their
report.
So
that's
just
something
we
want
to
clarify,
probably
before
requiring
that
condition.
Thank
you.
B
B
Yes,
it's
like
the
fourth
from
last
page
in
the
packet
or
maybe
10
from
last
page
in
the
packet,
don't
double
print
things
and
just
on
the
legend,
I'm
really
not
entirely
sure
if
it's
calling
out
a
requested
local
collector
road
or
if
it's
a
planned
local
collector
road.
But
it
just
shows
on
this
map
and
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
that's
been
accounted
for
within
conditions.
W
Mr
chair
committee,
member
erstad,
so
I
have
not
included
that
in
my
conditions,
generally,
just
from
a
planning
perspective,
we
look
at
boise
city
code
and
try
and
do
our
best
to
to
meet
those
and
then
also
the
design
guidelines.
I
didn't
see
it
in
their
rezone
approval
either.
That's
probably
where
I
would
look
for
it.
However,
they
are
required
to
comply
with
conditions
of
our
relevant
agencies
and
departments.
So
I
could
take
a
double
look
at
that
when
we
go
into
getting
their
building
permit
approved.
D
Y
Y
Y
We
have
discovery
on
the
west,
meeker
on
the
east
and
ash
creek,
and
all
these
roadways
go
out
to
chindin
or
cloverdale
road.
There
is
no
access,
vehicular
access
going
to
demire
this
project
is
was
built
many
many
years
ago
and
part
of
that
approval.
There
was
not
to
be
any
vehicular
access
to
demire
and
we've
maintained
that
with
this
project,
that's
before
you
tonight,
as
you
can
see
from
this
one,
our
design
or
development
does
back
up
to
demire.
Y
Y
Y
It
is
achd
right
away,
demeyer,
although
it
turns
going
south
to
misty
ridge
that
is
acsu
right
away,
that
goes
over
to
city
park
ownership
and
there's
a
pathway
there.
Currently,
it's
gravel,
we
do,
even
though
it's
off
our
property.
We
are
in
favor
of
making
those
pedestrian
connections
because
it
will
improve
the
entire
area,
not
just
the
benefit
of
our
project.
Y
Y
Y
Y
We
are
designing
the
site
for
ev
charging
stations.
We
will
be
installing
some
of
those
right
off
the
get-go,
but
we'll
have
the
rest
of
the
site,
both
on
the
north
and
south
plumbed.
For
that,
so
we
could
add
more
of
that
as
needed
or
desired.
We
are
adding
four
micropaths
out
to
demire
so
that
there
is
connections
out
to
what
would
be
that
future
10-foot
sidewalk
and
with
the
with
the
roadway
improvements
and
the
sidewalk
improvements,
as
well
as
the
pathway
improvement
over.
Y
We
actually
have
a
very
good
pedestrian
bicycle
corridor
and
connection
in
here.
There
is
an
existing
pathway,
which
is
just
off
the
exhibit
here
coming
out
to
the
meyer,
which
has
been
there
from
the
start
of
the
project
many
many
years
ago.
But
we
internally
are
also
adding
some
additional
pathways
here.
Y
The
site
is
is
unique
in
terms
of
its
location.
We
have
a
lot
of
employment
out
here.
There
are
existing
public
schools.
We
also
have
the
benefit
of
transportation
valley.
Ride
has
a
stop
within
a
tenth
of
a
mile
of
the
site.
There's
the
public
park
and
here's
an
opportunity
to
bring
housing
into
a
location
where
a
lot
of
things
already
exist.
It
is
truly
an
infill
site
and
that's
why
we
decided
to
look
at
bringing
this
instead
of
the
parking
lot.
That's
been
there.
Y
Y
This
is
more
consistent
with
the
boise
research
center,
which
is
at
our
front
door.
We
do
have
a
mix
of
materials
here
with
metal
siding
you
can
see
in
these
panels.
Here
we
do
have
brick
on
all
the
buildings
as
well
as
stucco.
We've
also
tried
to
add
a
little
bit
of
design
features,
although
be
minimal,
but
a
little
offsetting
color
at
the
front
doors.
When
you
see
those
here
and
just
go
through
this
quickly
again,
this
is
the
three
unit
town
home
side
by
side.
Y
These
are
a
little
bit
unique
in
that
there
is
a
common
front
door,
but
actually
that
space
is
then
conditioned
inside,
so
people
go
in
those
doors
and
they
will
go
either
at
that
first
level
or
go
upstairs,
and
I
can
show
that
to
you
if
you
want
to
get
into
that
detail,
but
this
front
door
here
you
would
come
in
and
then
you
would
either
go
to
the
two
units
on
the
first
floor
or
go
upstairs
to
the
two
units.
These
also,
all
these
units
have
dedicated
storage
spaces
in
them
to
provide.
Y
You
know,
need
needed
for
bikes
or
other
things
like
that.
Michaela
did
pick
up.
It
isn't
very
well
detailed
on
the
color
rendering
it
is
more
detailed
on
the
black
and
white,
but
we
will
ensure
that
that
the
color
blocking
and
the
materials
do
carry
around
on
the
side
of
those
units
on
the
eight,
as
she
mentioned
on
the
aplex
units
kind
of
up
here
in
the
corner,
the
front
door
is
on
the
side
of
the
unit,
and
this
would
be
what
you
would
see
from
the
parking
area.
Y
Just
a
little
snapshot
of
the
units
combined
as
well
as
the
colors.
The
x's
are
the
ones
that
we
are
using,
and
so
there
will
be
a
little
bit
of
variation
that
there
will
be
a
single
color
of
that
metal
panel
on
that
building.
But
the
paneling
will
vary
from
building
to
building
and
there's
continuity
in
the
stucco,
as
well
as
the
brick
on
the
buildings,
to
kind
of
create
some
consistency
and
design.
Y
As
mentioned,
we
do
agree
with
the
findings
and
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
that
are
here.
We
also
agree
with
that
condition
of
paving
that
gravel
part
of
that
access,
so
that
we
can
complete
a
needed,
pedestrian
and
bicycle
corridor
because
it
is
designated
in
a
right-of-way
and
it
is
part
of
the
city's
desired
pathway
plan.
I
would
hope
that
those
two
agencies
can
work
through
the
long-term
maintenance
of
that,
but
we
are
committed
to
making
those
improvements
as
well
as
improving
a
road
that
we
don't
even
access,
which
is
demire.
Y
D
I
do
have
I
do
have
one.
I
think
one
of
the
conditions
for
approval
has
to
do
with
the
window,
whether
it's
trimmed
out
or
recessed.
I
would
I
would.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
get
your
take
on
that,
because
this
is
sort
of
a
clean,
modern,
look
and
if
you
just
trim
them
out
to
meet
that
specification,
it
may
detract
from
that
nice.
Modern,
look,
so
I'd
be
curious.
What
your
thoughts
are
on
that.
Y
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
I
know
that
that
is
a
requirement
within
the
design
review
and,
like
you
mentioned,
we
have
tried
to
keep
a
clean,
modern
look
on
that.
I
guess
we
would
just
like,
instead
of
a
strict
interpretation
of
that,
allow
us
to
continue
to
work
through
that
detail.
So
we
can
maintain
a
modern
look
and
not
add
something
to
the
building,
but
I
don't
think
we're
too
far
off.
Y
Other
questions,
if
I
can
just
answer
the
one
question
that
committee
member
irsted
had
regarding
meeker,
I
did
look
at
that
exhibit
as
well.
I
think
it
is
actually
mislabeled.
Meeker
is
not
intended
to
connect
down
to
the
meyer.
That's
it
kind
of
cul-de-sacs
there.
Let
me
go
back
to
this.
One
shows
it
here.