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November 3, 2021
B
B
E
C
Say
hi
barbara
for
the
newer
members
of
our
committee.
We
did
this
more
frequently
before
oven,
where
we
would
bring
folks
in
and
have
educational
sessions
and
those
types
of
sessions
would
relate
to
you
know,
helping
you
better
understand
or
evaluate
improvement
project
applications
as
they
come
through
or
just
have
a
better
understanding
of
the
areas
that
you
are
interested
in:
the
boise
foothills
and
the
boise
river
corridor
and
natural
landscapes.
C
B
C
G
G
Okay,
so,
basically,
you
know,
treasures
of
the
boise
front
is
the
title
that
I've
been
using
for
this.
I,
like
treasure,
valley,
as
well
as
the
treasures
play
and
as
sarah
already
mentioned,
I
am
a
boise
native
born
and
raised
here.
Cut
my
teeth
on
the
local
flora
ended
up
becoming
a
professional
botanist,
mostly
in
western
north
american
floristics
and
taxonomy.
G
I've
published
nearly
about
40
new
plants,
which
may
sound
interesting
point
out
that
there's
actually
about
60
new
plants
per
year,
published
in
north
america,
two-thirds
from
western
north
america.
So
it's
basically
an
ongoing
thing.
We
are
still
learning
the
flora
I
returned
to
boise,
took
early
retirement
in
2005,
picked
up
on
the
boise
flora,
which
I've
been
working
on.
Basically,
since
a
grad
student
in
the
19
undergrad
of
the
1970s-
and
it
became
my
primary
project
during
the
pandemic-
let's
see
so
are
you
seeing
this?
Okay?
G
Yes,
okay,
just
encourage
me
to
check,
so
I
also
want
to
emphasize
that
this
kind
of
work
isn't
just
data
mining
compilation.
I
mean
to
do
it
the
way
that
I've
been
taught
to
do
it.
It's
original
research
I
mean
there's
it's
mostly
thousands
of
hours
of
on
the
ground
surveys,
making
species
list
or
bearing
collections
original
photos
and
pointing
out
that
deleting
erroneous
previous
reports
is
as
important
as
what
species
to
include,
and
that
can
take
a
lot
of
time
to
go
through
when
there's
herbarium
specimens
at
boise,
state
or
cfi.
G
G
You
know
that
big
of
a
deal
it's
par
for
the
course
I
correct
some
of
my
own
early
identifications
identification
is
actually
sometimes
putting
a
name
on
things
as
a
moving
target,
because
there's
so
many
new
information
coming
in
on
taxonomy,
I
use
multiple
keys,
floras,
sometimes
conflicting,
sometimes
even
contact
the
specialists
themselves
to
find
out.
What's
going
on.
What
should
I
call
this
india?
One
thing
I've
learned
is
the
boise
area
is
surprisingly
under
botanized
we
tend
to
take
the
local
flora
for
granted.
G
Oh,
we
got
better
brush
and
sagebrush
and
balsam
root
and
probably
well
there's
probably
it's
pretty
well
known.
It
turns
out,
though,
that
although
there's
lots
of
springtime
collections
in
the
herbery
and
others,
local
botanists
seem
to
scatter
to
the
high
country
as
soon
as
they
can,
and
so
it's
really
been
kind
of.
We
take
for
granted
what
we
have
locally
and
the
fact
that
there
hasn't
been
that
many
public
trails
until
more
recently
and
even
those
are
more
concentrated
in
the
foothills.
It's
still
hard
to
really
explore.
G
What's
in
the
upper
part
of
the
boise
front,
it's
an
ongoing
thing
and,
as
a
result,
the
existing
wildflower
guides
unless
you're
only
a
subset
of
what's
actually
present,
that
I've
been
finding
out
there
and
my
current
project
is
itself
a
long-term
work
in
progress.
Anyhow.
Major
conclusion:
the
boise
area
is
special.
G
G
G
So
the
green
belt
includes
the
residential
area.
South
of
I
mean
north
of
interstate
80.
South
boise,
I've
recently
decided
going
down
to
kunamora.
Oregon
trail
is
more
for
those
upland,
plateaus,
lucky
peak
foothills,
proper,
is
up
to
where
the
lake
idaho
sediments
are.
I've
decided
to
treat
the
avamore
and
hidden
springs
valley
area
on
the
other
side
of
daniel
creek
as
its
own
unit.
G
Middle
elevations
is
above
the
sediments
of
the
sediments
of
lake
idaho
and
before
you
hit
the
conifer
zone
and
thanks
to
martha
braybeck
for
doing
that,
she's
still
working
on
this
one.
So
how
many
do
we
have?
You
might
have
thought
a
few
hundred.
No
I've
added
pushed
it
up
over
a
thousand
still
adding
more
as
we
go
along
less
than
two-thirds
negative
one.
More
than
one-third
non-native
thing
I
like
to
focus
on
is
the
herbaceous.
G
Here's
your
best
known
rare
plants,
aussies
onion,
mulford's,
milk,
veg,
sacajawea
bitterroot
on
the
top
slick,
spot,
pepper
grass
over
towards
eagle
and
there's
also
some
newly
published
ones.
Here's
the
boise
san
verbena,
published
in
2016..
I
did
that
one
jim
smith
and
don
mansfield,
the
college
of
idaho
boise
state,
recently
published
andrus
biscuit
root.
G
These
have
been
known,
but
it's
been
shoehorned
into
something
else
and
they've
done
the
work
to
say.
Oh,
it's
distinct
and
there's
still
other
plans.
I
like
to
use
the
phrase
they
haven't
read
the
book.
You
try
to
key
them
out,
there's
something
wrong:
there's
no
other
name
and
you
kind
of
think.
Well,
maybe
these
are
other
candidates
for
eventually
needing
their
own
name.
G
There's
this
unusually
small
flower
little
thing
called
a
moon
cup
which
I've
mostly
just
seen
on
polecat
gulch.
This
little
compact
form
of
western
bladder
pod
should
be
on
limestone.
Instead,
it's
on
granite
along
one
tiny
spot
on
morris
mountain,
this
form
of
keys
out
best
with
tommy's
onion,
but
doesn't
quite
fit.
You
can
find
it
over
north
of
hidden
springs
and
also
in
east
foothills,
preserve
and
then
the
paintbrush
on
schaefer
beauty,
the
most
common
one
there.
G
You
know
it
kind
of
has
the
wrong
color
for
one
species
the
wrong
leaf
for
another,
and
I
need
the
paintbrush
people
to
look
at
it.
A
few
other
plants
you're
going
to
find
around
here
that
actually
are
on
the
idaho
rare
plant
list,
but
I
don't
think
they've
really
made
it
too
much
or
at
least
they've
been
considered,
I'm
not
totally
sure
on
the
status
of
all
of
these,
but
they're,
certainly
ones
that
should
be
considered.
G
The
rabbit's
foot
milk
fetch
over
near
lucky
peak
moisty
milk,
fetch
common
up
on
the
watchman
trail
acoustics
primrose
down
here
in
the
foothills,
are
only
native
primrose
troop
primrose,
even
some
hedgehog
cats,
that's
over
towards
lucky
peak
and
then
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
these
things
locally
rare.
They
don't
have
any
state
status,
but
if
we
really
are
interested
in
you
know
what
all
adds
to
our
local
diversity.
These
are
the
things
that
could
easily
disappear
simply
by
not
paying
attention
q6
bluebell
found
and
up
near
lucky.
G
You
know
the
norton,
it's
right
near
the
nordic
lodge
if
it
hasn't
already
been
bulldozed,
hairy,
swamp
nettle.
I
found
above
diversion
dam
purple
sage.
The
only
place
that
grows
north
of
the
snake
river
plains.
It's
common
enough
south,
but
this
is
our
only
population,
none
of
it
on
protected
land,
franklin
sandwort,
another
sand,
endemic
idaho.
Our
little
genus
named
after
our
state
used
to
be
much
more
common
is
now
very
hard
to
find
because
it
means
open
space
canvas.
G
There's
only
a
few
places
you
can
find
that
locally
minidoka
penstemon
only
down
in
blacks,
creek
reservoir,
rattlesnake,
plantain
orchid,
could
be
you
know,
wiped
out
by
forest
spinning.
If
it's
not
paid
attention
to
and
here's
a
list
of
things
that
are
historically
there's
records
of
them,
I
haven't
been
able
to
find
them
during
the
current
period.
Maybe
you
know
they
challenges
for
people
to
go.
Look
at
a
lot
of
these
would
be
up
in
the
mid.
Elevations.
G
Also
pay
attention
to
special
habitats.
Like
alkali
flats
slick
spots,
south
alpine
rock
gardens
open
sandy
slopes.
I
mean
this
is
where
most
of
our
rarest
plants
live,
but
once
the
non-native
annual
grasses
take
over
it's
no
longer
the
same
habitat
and
the
neat
stuff
starts
disappearing.
Wind
swept
ridge.
G
Slowly,
you
know
paying
attention
all
these
diverse
habitats
is
what
supports
the
plants,
though,
of
course,
the
most
important
habitat
is
shrub
staff
which,
when
I
grew,
was
growing
up
here
it's
what
was
you
know
the
most
common
thing
all
over
it's
becoming
increasingly
hard
to
find
because
it
gets
invaded
by
non-native
animals
and
what
you
have
is
bunch
grasses,
scattered
shrubs
lots
of
scattered,
wildflowers
and
critically.
Is
all
this
open
space
in
between
them,
cryptogamic
crust,
sometimes
or
biotic
crust?
G
It's
called,
but
that's
such
a
critical
part
of
the
functioning
ecosystem
and
what
provides
the
diversity
of
habitat
for
both
the
plants
and
the
animals
that
depend
on
this
and
the
problem
with
things
like
cheap
grass
is
and
even
bachelor
buttons.
These
annuals
fill
in
the
gaps,
and
then
they
also
carry
fire
more
easily
too,
and
I
wanted
to
emphasize
too
that
it's
easy.
You
know
this
if
you
disturb
it
turns
into
you
know
a
monoculture
of
non-natives.
G
G
I
also
thought
it
worth
mentioning
that
the
feral
or
cereal
rye,
actually
in
the
lower
foothills,
is
even
worse
than
cheatgrass,
as
well
as
being
highly
flammable.
But-
and
you
know,
that's
the
thing
that
really
needs
more
attention.
Although
I'd
like
to
point
out
a
possible
creative
solution
and
I'll
figure
out
how
to.
C
F
G
The
hardy
pampas
grass
is
one
that
the
native
plant
society
has
targeted,
for
this
needs
to
no
longer
be
sold
it's
just
too
invasive
locally
patient
stock.
You
know
we
need
to.
It
looks
like
curly
dock
on
steroids
and
it's
spreading
like
crazy
along
the
green
belt,
dyer's
broom,
it's
still
small
enough
quantities,
it
could
be
eliminated
but
hasn't
been,
and
european
spindle
tree
is
starting
to
be
showing
up
all
over
the
place,
and
these
are
just
you
know.
G
I
choose
four,
because
that's
what
I
can
put
on
and
just
pointing
out
for
I've
got
instead
of
just
breaking
this
into
native
and
non-native.
These
are
the
number
of
plants.
I've
got
a
separate
category,
it's
a
subset
of
native
of
what's
the
sensitive,
and
this
isn't
just
the
ones
that
are
listed
rare,
but
things
that
are
just
going
to
be
in
a
few
places,
and
this
number
I
need
to
boost
up,
I
have
to
go
through
and
decide
which
other
things
locally
should
be
on
it.
G
G
As
far
as
I
can
determine,
none
of
these
are
originally
native
to
the
boise
front.
Their
only
presence
here
is
because
they've
been
planted,
four
wing
shad
scale
popular
included
in
seed
mixes
silver
sagebrush.
I
see
in
plantings,
palmer's
penstemon
well
established
in
a
lot
of
places
native
to
the
south
of
us,
and
it
turns
out
what
we
think
of
as
the
lewis's
flax.
G
That's
common
in
seed
mixtures
is
actually
the
european
perennial
flax
and
it's
a
different
species,
even
from
the
one
that's
native
and
the
only
place
our
native
lion
luisia
grows
is
up
in
the
foot
conifer
zone,
okay
and
with
all
the
threats
going
on
you
know.
Basically,
the
flora
seems
under
siege,
which
is
why
I've
increasingly
tied
a
lot
of
my
work
to
activities
to
raid
public
awareness,
giving
talks
workshops
for
general
audiences
developed
a
series
of
glided
wildflower
walks.
G
We've
now
got
an
agreement
to
have
this
annually
at
the
idaho
botanical
garden
on
mother's
day,
and
I
hope
that
we
get
the
you
know
the
publicity
out
more
and
get
people
used
to
doing
this,
and
all
of
these
incorporate
a
boise
front,
101
interpretive
overview,
because
I'd
like
to
try
to
make
people
understand,
what's
special
about
our
place
and
get
them
to
appreciate
it.
Okay.
G
So
the
wildflower
walk
series
that
I
developed
several
years
ago
is
guided
one
to
three
hour
walks,
mostly
after
dinner,
mostly
about
two
to
three
miles
long
takes
when
you're
stopping
at
looking
things.
You
can't
do
long
walks,
you,
you
know
two
and
three
miles
is
about
what
you
can
do
with
plant
lists
to
hand
out,
and
they
were
selected
to
introduce
the
maximum
diversity
of
networthy
plants
and
habitat
types
throughout
the
boise
front
and
throughout
the
year,
and
they
include
not
just
the
wildflowers
but
natural
and
cultural
history.
G
So
the
complete
series
almost
function
as
a
boise
front,
101,
here's,
the
ab
that
was
in
spring
2019
that
got
cancelled
during
the
pandemic.
We
were
doing
these
through
the
foothills
learning
center.
I'm
still
kind
of
trying
to
get
the
publicity
working
on,
but
with
the
pandemic
I
started
working
on
converting
them
to
self-guided
versions.
G
Here's
the
full
list
that
we
were
doing
and
they
were
timed
again
so
that
you
could
have
them.
You
know
from
I'll
have
that
get
the
jump
on
spring
as
soon
as
buttercup
started
blooming
and
I
used
to
just
go
to
early
july,
I've
added
a
self-guided
one
for
schaefer
loop.
That
could
be
any
time
during
the
summer.
G
This
is
the
website
that
started
working
on
during
the
pandemic
me
working
on
the
content,
bob
cabell
and
paul
schaefer
is
the
ongoing
person
who's
actually
making
it
work,
and
so
here's
what
one
of
the
converted
self-guided
walks,
looks
like,
or
at
least
you
know,
kind
of
the
introduction
to
what
it
is
a
little
bit
description
I'll
give
the
list
of
what
plants
you
see
at
different
stretches
also
include
some
notes
that
I
you
know
like
I
said
I
try
to
get
the
whole
picture
of.
What's
going
on.
G
G
It's
not
necessarily
the
most
pretty
looking
yet
been
working
more
on
the
content
and
have
it
out
paul's
been
having
fun
with
this
part,
but
it's
the
latin
name,
a
common
name.
This
is
what
used
to
be
known
as
gray's
biscuit,
root,
long
story
there,
but
family,
it's
native.
It's
herbaceous.
We
can
add
the
flower
color
now
the
distribution
based
on
those
eight
categories
and
I'm
mostly
just
trying
to
get
the
stuff
that
you
can't
find
just
anywhere
and
instead
I'll
make
links
to
other
places.
G
If
you
want
to
find
out
more
about
this
plant
and
then
what
I
want
to
do
for
everything-
and
I've
just
done
this,
for
a
few
so
far
is
have
a
discussion
as
well
again
stuff,
that's
specific
to
the
boise
area.
In
this
case,
phragmites
is
interesting
because
it's
got
two
subspecies
australis,
which
is
considered
invasive,
but
the
native
subspecies
americana
isn't
and
so
trying
to
decide
which
one
we
have
it's
still
they're
hard
to
tell
apart.
G
I
think
we
only
have
americana,
so
we
don't
need
to
consider
it
invasive
paul's
also
put
together
this
lovely
search
page,
so
you
can
search
for
you
know
if
you
want
to
find
out
how
many
herbaceous
plants
with
orange
flowers
found
in
the
foothills.
You
know
you
can
do
these
various
kinds
of
queries.
G
Okay,
current
and
future
plans.
Future
possibilities
still
need
to
re
still
working
on
the
species.
As
I
said,
this
is
a
long
term.
Work
in
progress
add
more
photos,
discussion
at
front
matter,
so
you
know
history
geology,
I'd
love
to
recruit
additional
collaborators
to
expand
beyond
vascular
plants.
I
definitely
want
to
complete
the
wildflower
walk
conversion.
I'd
also
like
to
train
some
other
volunteers,
perhaps
master
naturalists,
to
get
reached,
see
them
picking
up
and
leading
the
walks
rather
than
me
being
the
only
one
to
do
it.
G
It
would
make
more
sense
for
me
to
train
others.
I
think
it'd
be
great
to
have
some
collaborators
to
develop
some
k-12
nature,
interpretive
models,
maybe
based
on
some
of
these
same
areas
and
also
definitely
want
to
develop,
expand
the
interactive
citizen
scientists
with
binaturalist.
I
consider
what
I'm
doing
kind
of
the
baseline
read.
You
know,
specialist
generated
foundation
that
can
then
be.
You
know,
supplemented
with
all
the
next
things.
G
Here's
an
idea
that
I
came
up
with
early
on
too
that
I'd
like
to
do
eventually
to
try
to
encourage
people
to
get
out
and
look
appreciate.
The
wildflowers
more
is
actually
put
points
on
each
one
and
set
up
competitions
just
so
you
can
come
up
with
the
most
points,
so
something
like
early
baltimore.
Everybody
can
do
that.
Ten
points,
idaho.
If
you
find
that
250
points,
non-natives
zero
points
guiding
principle.
This
is
me
with
my
grand
niece.
C
C
G
I
just
feel
it
would
be
a
better
use
of
my
time.
You
know
I
could
leverage
my
you
know,
expertise
by
training,
other
people
to
lead
the
walks,
and
then
you
could
have
a
whole
bunch.
More
people
be
able
to
lead
the
walks,
because
you
know
it
was
less
than
10.
We
put
a
cap
of
20
on
and
most
of
them
never
seem
to
show
half
them
never
showed
up.
So
it
was
fun
to
do,
but
it
was
you
know.
G
C
G
C
B
B
F
C
B
C
Is
to
go
back
and
draft
up
new
conservation
criteria
that
has
been
informed
by
that
discussion
and
then
I
will
bring
that
back
to
the
subcommittee
for
revision
edit
further
discussion,
and
then
we
will
bring
it
to
the
full
committee
for
discussion.
And
hopefully
you
know
a
vote
on
whether
or
not
you're
comfortable.
C
Be
you
know,
the
expectation
we
would
put
on
applicants
would
be
to
address
things
like
you
know.
How
does
your
pathways
proposal
directly
relate
to
the
language
in
the
levy
that
says
you
know
it
can
be
used
for
enhanced
recreational
opportunities
and
trails
or,
for
example,
how
does
your
carbon
capture
or
your
you
know,
shrub
planting
project
improve
the
city's
efforts
to
sorry,
you
get
that
where
your
ear
starts.
Turning
it's
very.
C
B
C
C
B
C
E
Yeah,
I
think
just
that
it
is
going
to
take
some
open-mindedness.
I
guess
to
what
we've
traditionally
done.
I
thought
about
doing
this,
and
so
just
opening
up
the
opportunities
is
the
goal
of
the
subcommittee
right
to
get
the
money
out
the
door,
because
it's
not
going
out
the
door
and
it's
going
to
look
bad
if.
E
That
it's
just
sitting
there
collecting
no
interest,
and
you
know
hopefully
this
opportunities
will
be
some.
I
predict
that
there'll
be
probably
some
pushback
if
we
can
pull
some
of
these
projects
off,
although
they
meet
the
criteria,
that's
not
what
most
people
think
this
money
is
for,
and
especially
if
it's
a
project
that
could
arguably
be
used
for
general
funds
or
green
up
funds
from
a
park
or
something
like
that.
E
C
F
C
C
Of
you
who
have
no
contacts,
that's
like
really
good
engagement.
When
we
do
other
city
surveys
they
don't
they
don't
get
that
much
engagement,
it's
very
hard
to
get
that,
so
our
users
are
passionate,
they're
engaged.
They
want
us
to
hear
their
voice
and
we
are
providing
them
with
opportunities
to
do
so.
So
we've
been
going
through
that
data
these
last
few
days
we
had
a
statistician,
look
at
the
raw
data
and
help
us
kind
of
look
under
the
hood
a
little
bit
like.
Yes,
you
have
this
percentage
of
support.
C
B
C
A
No,
mr
president,
just
that
it's
at
four
o'clock
ish
we'll
give
the
time
on
that
in
the
next
couple
of
days,
but
it
would
be
great
for
anyone
who
could
tune
in
to
get
an
update
on
that.
Sarah
will
be
providing
that
to
the
mayor
and
council
and
we'll
be
looking
for
either
affirmation
of
the
plan
being
adopted,
moving
forward
or
an
actual
potential
vote
by
the
council
to
adopt
the
plan
moving
forward
and
the
plan
is
what
we've
been
doing.
So
it's.
Basically,
it's
been
working
and.
E
B
F
A
This
last
one,
and
then
we
monitored
in
between
feedback
weekly
from
our
users,
and
so
we've
used
all
that
to
create
this
database.
That
really
does
demonstrate
it
worked.
The
engagement
worked,
the
trial
pilot
worked,
and
so
we
believe
now
to
move
forward
with
what
we've
been
doing
to
continue
to
do.
A
A
But
I'm
hoping
there's
enough
of
a
tweak
that
we
can
create
some
more
interest
in
the
community
for
more
clean
water
opportunities,
because
I
know
the
council's
looking
at
that
fund
and
just
kind
of
wanting
us
to
to
get
it
into
the
community
and
so,
but
but
still
be
good
stewards
of
the
money.
We're
not
going
to
be.
You
know,
picking
projects
that
that
don't
fit
the
criteria,
obviously
or
that
we
can't
support,
and
we
feel
that
the
mayor
and
council
can't
support.
A
But
I
appreciate
committee
member
ravers
comments
that
this
is
a
good
move
to
try
to
see
if
we
can
enhance
some
of
the
opportunities
out
there
so
and
use
you
folks.
So
committee
members,
as
you
know,
people
in
the
community
that
might
have
projects
out
there-
let's,
let's
get
those
let's
get
applications
and
get
them
in
here.
So
if
you're
familiar
with
what
it
could
be
neighborhood
associations,
it
could
be
nonprofit
organizations
if
you're
familiar
with
anyone
that
that
is
even
thinking
about
doing
a
project.
E
C
C
There's,
even
though
I
don't
always
have
applications
for
you,
there's
always
conversations
going
on
right
now
we
are
talking
with
the
city
of
cuna,
ada
county
and
a
number
of
other
stakeholders
fishing
game
to
put
together
an
improvement
project
concept
for
hubbard
reservoir,
although
that's
not
along
the
boise
river,
as
you
say,
but
it
is
trying
to
work
across
those
jurisdictional.
Boundaries
can
sometimes
be
a
little
challenging,
but
I
think
we're
gaining
headway
with
a
couple
of
these
projects.
Just
take
some
time.
B
E
E
C
E
B
Yeah,
I
was
you
know,
I'm
new
only
my
second
meeting,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask.
If
historically
have
we
been
turning
down
very
many
applications
or
we
just
not
had
a
lot
of
interest.
It
sounds
like
this.
We
have
a
decent
amount
of
money
left,
which
is
great,
but
I
guess
I
was
just
wondering
if
people
have
been
you
know
not
as
excited
to
put
in
applications
because
people
have
been
turned
down
or
what
that
has
looked
like
in
the
past.
C
G
B
C
C
F
C
F
A
E
C
E
D
I
have
one
if
you
don't
mind,
I
thought
about
this
other
project.
We
had,
it
was
boise
state
and
they
were
going
to
improve
the
river
area
with
boardwalks
and
stuff,
and
we
we
really
liked
that
project,
but
it
just
seemed
like
they.
They
weren't
really
prepared
in
their
application,
and
I
I
was
wondering
if
we
might
see
that
that
one
again
yeah
there
was
two.
B
C
C
A
D
C
This
update
of
the
criteria
is
very
timely,
not
only
because
we
have
you
know
newer
committee
members,
but
and
newer
policies
that
we
need
to
incorporate,
but
also
because
we're
start.
We,
you
know
we're
coming
out
of
this
this
weird
time
when
people
were
trying
to
teach
again
about
how
to
initiate
things.
F
F
F
A
Coming
in,
but
one
of
the
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up
because,
mr
president,
commission
members
is
that
that
part
of
the
issues
we
were
having
with
esther
simplot
pond,
particularly
pond
one-
is
the
crane.
Creek
drainage
runs
adjacent
to
that
pond,
and
it
is
the
highest
e
coli
bacteria
infested
body
of
water
in
that
whole
area
and
our
public
works
team
is
pretty
convinced
that
that
has
a
has
had
a
dramatic
effect
on
esther
sin
plot
and
it
all-
and
it's
going
straight
to
the
river
and.
A
It's
gathering
runoff
from
like
20
different
areas
that
go
into
that
small
creek,
and
so
you
know
we
talked
about
when
we
were
talking
about
cottonwood
creek.
Is
that
potentially
a
project
that
could
come
forward
to
to
this
committee
to
look
at
putting
some
funding
in
to
clean
up
that
crane
creek
before
it
discharges
into
the
into
the
river?
And
so
we
haven't
talked
about
it
internally,
much
except
with
a
couple
of
our
public
works
teams.
A
So
it's
a
great
example,
though,
of
all
that
runoff
going
into
crane
creek,
which
I'm
again
not
an
expert
on
that
other
than
being
told
it's
like
20,
different
sources
of
all
kinds
of
really
bad
stuff
ending
up
in
there,
and
I
can
attest
to
the
fact
that
it's
the
highest
e
coli
water
source
we
have
in
that
area.
It
still
runs
through
my
backyard.
Doesn't
it.
A
And
so
I
don't
think
you
know
when
they
put
that
when
they
creak
underground
a
lot
of
it.
Just
you
know
back
in
1900,
they
didn't
really
plan,
they
probably
dreamed
right
into
it.
Yeah.
I
think
that
there
is
opportunities
with
a
lot
of
drainages
and
I
don't
know
sorry,
I
don't
want
to
steal
in
that
restaurant
you
got
but
cottonwood
creek.
If
you
wanted
to
give
an
update.
Yes,
if
we
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
that's
part
of
your
update,
I
think
it's
timely.
A
C
F
B
C
A
And
a
design
the
design
wasn't,
was
a
problem.
It's
going
to
take
out
a
lot
of
trees
and
healthy
trees.
Large
you
know
100
year
plush,
trees
in
julia
davis
park,
and
so
and
and
in
the
end
it
I
think
the
way
it
was
characterized
is
the
the
cost
associated
didn't
provide
the
benefit
that
it
would
that
we
would
like
to
see
at
the
end
of
the
day.
A
It
would
only
have
water
in
it,
maybe
five
weeks
a
year
and
other
than
that
it'd
be
dry
and
so
and
there
was
no
guarantee
that
the
fish
habitat
would
actually
you
know,
be
enhanced
with
with
during
that
five
week
period.
So
there
were
a
lot
of
issues
that
we
that
we
couldn't
get
answers
for
and,
as
sarah
mentioned
and
the
family
just
wasn't
hip
on
the
design
when
it
finally
was
was
completed
by
the
engineering
firm
it
was,
it
was
large.
It
was
in
some
areas,
70
feet
wide.
F
C
A
Than
10
feet
deep
and
it
had
to
to
be
constructed
that
way,
because
at
the
runoff
peak
runoff
it's
200
cfs
that
would
come
through
the
canal,
so
you
had
to
build
it
like
that
concept.
A
church
parking
lot
for
easter
sunday,
you're
building
this
canal
to
handle
200,
cfs
and
then
the
rest
of
the
year
it's
empty,
and
so
they
couldn't
really
give
a
guarantee
that
even
spawning
activity
was
going
to
occur,
and
so
the
family
just
said.
A
A
C
And
I
think
that's
I've
made
some
put
some
feelers
out
this
week,
just
start
trying
to
start
some
conversations
related
to
it,
and
so
hopefully
you
know
hopefully
I'll
be
able
to
meet
with
some
of
our
public
works
team
and
see
what
opportunities
there
might
be.
But
in
answer
to
your
question
about
storm
water,
you
know
really.
C
So
I
don't
know
what
the
solution
will
be
for
green
creek
it'll
depend
on
kind
of
ownership
along
its
alignment,
and
you
know
what
we're
able
to
do
and
where
so,
just
moving
real
quick
on
to
a
couple
of
updates.
We
did
close
on
the
horizon
hills
property
on
monday
last
monday,
and
so
that's
very
exciting.
Congratulations.
C
B
C
Trails
in
there
that
are
not
protected
for
public
access.
The
pursley
family
generously
sold
this
property
to
us
at
a
significant
discount
so
that
we
could
start
to
build
relationships
with
neighboring
property
owners
go
through
the
planning
process.
If
any
of
those
properties
should
be
developed
to
start
to
formalize
public
access
connectivity
and
open
space
in
the
east.
C
C
So
without
any
additional
capital
funds,
which
there
is
none,
we
will
either
have
to
put
this
project
on
hold
or
find
alternative
funding
sources,
and
given
that
we
are
now
going
through
this
criteria,
you
know
enhanced
recreational
opportunities
and
trails
is
one
of
our
one
of
our.
You
know,
mission.