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A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
Boise
City
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
public
hearing
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak.
Is
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion.
You
will
be
called
upon
and
unmuted
there's
a
chat
function
in
Zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
A
Our
procedures
for
public
hearing
begins
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
then
the
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association,
followed
by
questions
from
the
commission.
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person,
then
who
signed
up
on
the
sign
up
sheet
in
advance,
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
Star
9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
Testimony.
A
A
B
You
Crystal
good
evening.
We
are
citizen
volunteers
appointed
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
the
city
council.
We
make
final
decisions
on
conditional
use,
permits,
variances
and
appeals
and
recommendations
to
the
city
council
on
subdivisions,
rezones,
annexations
and
code
or
comprehensive
plan
amendments.
B
Any
decision
made
tonight
maybe
appeal
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
So
that's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight,
we
utilize
the
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report,
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
B
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion
without
further
public
testimony
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will.
We
will
hold
a
full
public
Hearing
in
the
order,
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
the
staff,
applicant,
neighborhood
association
and
then
public
testimony.
Thank
you
all
for
attending
tonight.
Will
the
clerk
please
call
the
roll.
D
C
B
Okay,
thank
you
all
right,
okay,
relatively
short
agenda.
This
evening
we
do
have
a
couple
of
items
eligible
for
the
consent
agenda,
so
we'll
start
with
those
items
to
start
that
off
without
objection,
I'll
place
the
minutes
from
our
January
9th
commission
work
session
meetings,
meeting
minutes
and
then
also
our
commission
meeting
on
January
9th
I'll
Place,
both
of
those
meeting
minutes
on
the
consent
agenda.
B
B
Let
the
records
show
the
applicant.
The
applicants
are
present
here
in
Chambers
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
Let
the
record
show
that
the
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report
and
is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight
hoping
to
testify
in
opposition
to
this
item.
B
And
up
next
for
possible
consent
is
item
number
five.
This
is
car
22-33
Morgan
Stonehill
LLC
address
is
703
South
Americana
Boulevard.
This
is
a
rezone
of
approximately
3.09
Acres
from
C2
to
from
a
C2
Zone
to
a
C3
Zone.
Sorry,
let
me
back
up
there's
a
rezone
of
approximately
3.09
Acres
from
C2
and
C3
zones
to
a
c5dd
Zone
with
the
development
agreement
and
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
B
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight?
Can
we
testify
an
opposition
to
this
item.
B
B
E
Make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
consent
agenda,
inclusive
of
meeting
minutes
from
January
9th
from
our
last
work
session,
also
from
January
9th.
The
commission
meeting
minutes
item
number
two
cup
22-67
a
conditional
use
permit
application
at
80,
30,
West,
Emerald,
Street
and
item
number
five
car
22-33,
a
rezone
application
located
at
703
South
Americana
Boulevard
with
their
respective
terms
and
conditions
in
each
of
their
staff
reports.
B
B
B
The
applicant
is
Casey
Parker.
The
address
is
4870
North
Farrow
Street.
This
is
a
waiver
request
to
the
subdivision:
ordinance
ordinance
requirement
to
construct
curb
Gutter
and
sidewalk
as
part
of
a
minor
land
division
on
0.9
acres
in
an
r1c
Zone.
First,
we're
going
to
hear
from
staff
Mr
Matt
Dennis.
F
Currently,
there's
one
single
family
home
on
site,
with
driveway
access
taken
from
Pharaoh
Street
to
the
West.
The
administratively
approved
minoland
division
created
two
two
additional
lots
to
the
east
of
the
existing
home,
both
of
which
will
take
access
from
Cranberry
Court
to
the
north
and
included
a
standard
condition
to
install
curved
Gutter
and
sidewalk
along
the
remaining
unimproved
Street
section
along
Farrow
Street.
F
The
current
waiver
request
is
for
the
conditioned
Street
improvements
along
the
western
Frontage
along
Farrow
Street
barriers
to
installing
the
conditioned
Street
improvements,
as
cited
by
the
applicant,
are
summarized
on
your
screen.
The
width
of
the
right-of-way
of
pharaoh
street
is
approximately
37
feet,
of
which
the
Eastern
11
to
12
feet
is
unimproved
gravel.
F
Although
there
are
two
existing
power
pools
along
the
western
Frontage
of
the
property
where
the
street
improvements
have
been
conditioned,
this
is
not
a
unique
hardship,
as
this
is
common
throughout
the
city.
The
conditioned
Street
improvements
were
not
detrimentally
impact
development
of
the
newly
created
Parcels,
nor
will
it
cause
the
existing
home
to
encroach
into
its
front
setback
attached.
Sidewalk
can
be
installed
within
the
right-of-way
without
requiring
a
pedestrian
access.
Easement.
F
Doing
so
would
contradict
multiple
goals
stated
within
the
comprehensive
plan
which
encouraged
the
creation
of
pedestrian
connections
from
arterial
streets
containing
bicycle
lanes
and
bus
routes
to
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
reinforcing
those
established,
streetscape
characteristics
characteristics,
do
the
use
of
sidewalk
insulation
as
part
of
infill
and
Redevelopment
projects.
The
installment
of
Street
improvements
establishes
and
strengthens
a
network
of
alternative
transportation
options
for
residents
of
the
neighborhood.
F
G
G
H
I'm
Jackie
Parker,
so
we
were
born
and
raised
in
Boise.
We
purchased
our
home
over
a
decade
ago
because
we
wanted
more
land
for
our
children
to
play
on.
We
wanted
a
better
life
for
them
fast
forward.
10
years,
Boise
has
grown
so
much
too
much
for
our
liking.
Our
priority
in
life
is
still
making
our
lives
and
children's
lives
better,
which
is
why
we
decided
to
subdivide
our
property.
We
want
a
life
slowed
down,
but
in
order
to
get
the
life
we
want,
we
need
the
money,
hence
subdividing
our
property.
H
Do
we
want
to
do
this?
No,
we
do
not,
but
it's
the
only
way
that
we
can
get
the
funds
to
better
Our
Lives.
We
don't
have
the
funds
for
a
sidewalk.
Nor
do
we
want
a
sidewalk.
We
are
a
single
family
income
home.
We
homeschool
our
children
and
we
pay
for
that
with
no
help
from
the
government
we're
doing
what's
best
for
our
family
and
making
the
sacrifices
to
achieve
a
life
more
slowed
down.
If
there
was
another
way
of
getting
the
money,
we
wouldn't
be
trying
to
sell
the
land
that
we
love.
H
H
H
H
We
don't
want
to
sidewalk
in
front
of
our
yard.
There's
the
road
is
narrow,
there's
also
no
sidewalks
down
the
entire
western
side
of
pharaoh
streets.
C
D
D
H
D
H
D
Would
yeah
match
I
mean
what
else
was
there?
I
mean
and
then
I
was
also
talking
with
Matt,
and
he
was
saying
that
there's
a
handful
of
other
people
with
the
same
issue
and
I
mean
I'm,
not
a
developer,
I'm,
not
in
it.
For
the
big
money
I
mean
you
know
what
I
mean.
D
I
I'm
selling
my
property
and
I've
got
to
pay
26
for
capital
gains,
and
then
I
got
to
pay
six
percent
for
a
realtor,
and
then
you
know
who
knows
how
much
for
for
sidewalk,
15,
grand
or
whatever
that
could
go
into
my
roof
or
my
family
I
mean
for
a
sidewalk.
That's
that's
not
going
to
be
utilized
and
to
where
a
road
you
know
should
be.
It
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
us
at
all.
B
D
B
Well,
we'll
we'll
check
in
with
the
neighborhood
association,
then
we
may
have
you
guys
back
up
to
answer
a
few
questions
here
in
just
a
minute.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
J
So
question
for
the
staff
so
I
know
our
subdivision
ordinance
requires
that
we
construct
the
curb
Gutter
and
sidewalk
on
all
these
applications.
So
if
it's
can
you
explain
to
us
if
it's
a
minor
land
division
is
that
does
that
still
qualify
for
this
requirement
and
it's
per
ordinance
from
my
understanding.
F
I
J
Up
on
that,
if
that
so
per
the
ordinance,
then
the
waiver
requires
a
couple
conditions
be
met,
one
of
them
being
substantial
hardship
or
inequity
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
could
maybe
give
us
an
example
of
what
substantial
hardship
would
be
or
inequity.
I
know
that
I
believe
financial
hardship.
It
does
not
qualify
under
this
condition,
but
can
you
maybe
go
into
some
more
detail
about
that.
F
Commissioner,
finfrock
in
in
most
cases,
a
unique
circumstance
has
to
do
with
the
site,
characteristics
or
dimensions
of
the
property
that
either
would
make
it
infeasible
or
impractical
to
install
a
condition
Improvement
such
as
this.
That
would
be
you
know
things
such
as
grading
the
material
of
the
ground.
Obviously
something
to
that
nature.
J
I
think
the
applicant
mentioned
fiber
optics
and
I
know
I
read
in
our
packet
that
there's
some
other
issues
and
I
don't
know
if
I
yeah
the
power
polls
I
think
there
was
like
a
power
pole
issue.
Is
that
going
to
be
an
issue
if
they
required
them
to
put
sidewalks
in.
F
Commissioner
finfrock
in
my
understanding,
I,
was
not
made
aware
of
fiber
optic
cables
being
an
issue
towards
that.
I
went
out
there
to
as
for
a
site,
inspection
and
noted
that
the
power
poles
were
at
least
six
feet
away
from
that
paved
improved,
right-of-way
Pharaoh
street.
So
to
my
understanding,
I,
don't
believe
that
that
would
be
an
issue.
F
However,
you
know
I
didn't
personally
see
fiber
optic,
cables
and
I
know
that
they're
they're
buried.
So
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
it
would
not
be
an
issue.
C
J
E
F
Danley,
the
Ada
County
Highway
District
does
not
themselves
condition
curb
gutter
sidewalk
they
their
wording
is,
is
basically
to
leave
it
up
to
the
city,
and
then,
however,
you
know
they
their
agency
comments
usually
come
with.
If
the
city
does
condition
curb
Gutter
and
sidewalk,
then,
and
then
they
list
out
those
Dimensions
that
I
listed,
so
the
achg
does
not
themselves
impose
those
conditions,
but
the
city
does
as
a
standard
condition
for
all
minorland
divisions.
E
E
Is
it
fair
to
say
that
the
applicant's
property
was
also
was
improved
due
to
the
development
that
took
place
to
the
east
of
this
property?
That
was
a
condition
of
approval
for
that
project,
because
the
sidewalk
that
is
on
Cranberry
Court
was
not
a
requirement
of
these
particular
Property
Owners
right.
It
was
a
requirement
of
the
property
to
the
east.
Commissioner.
E
B
B
Okay,
no
takers
right
to
the
applicant,
so
typically
this
part
of
the
hearing
you
have
five
minutes
of
rebuttal
for
any
testimony
that
was
presented.
You're
welcome
to
use
that
time.
If
you
like
now
or
you
can
really
yield
that
time
as
well,
since
there
was
no
other
testimony
on
the
item.
B
B
J
J
Commissioner,
Danley
I'm
not
really
sure,
where
you're
going
with
your
comments,
so
just
so
that
we
could
open
it
up,
like
I,
feel,
like
I've,
looked
at
the
criteria
for
the
waiver
and
I,
don't
know
if
it's
met
here.
I
understand
the
frustration
but
I
just
I
mean
we
have
pretty
strict
conditions
and
and
I
don't
know
if
they've
been
met
and
I
as
frustrating
as
it
is
every
single
time
we
see
an
application
in
front
of
us
that
involves
the
sidewalks
we've.
J
We
you
know
we
make
everybody
put
in
sidewalks
and
I
think
that
you
know
the
predictable
pattern
and
all
the
other
reasons.
I
I
think
that
we
probably
have
to
push
forward
with
that
here
as
well,
but
I
just
wanted
to
get
everybody
else's.
Take
on
it
because
you
know
just
so,
you
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page.
E
For
the
last
year
and
a
half
you
all
have
been
hearing
me
request
for
a
fee
in
lieu
of
policy
that
I
wish
that
our
city
would
have
taken
up
and
adopted,
like
the
city
of
Lewiston,
has
done
in
other
cities
in
Idaho,
but
we
have
not
done
that
that
fee
and
loop
policy
allows
for
situations
like
this.
That
would
allow
and
permit
a
waiver,
but
the
cost,
potentially
you
know,
depends
or
a
portion
of
the
gourd
to
go
toward
a
different
need.
E
We
don't
have
that
policy.
I,
wish
that
we
did.
In
my
my
opinion,
no
I,
don't
believe
that
a
hardship
has
been
proven
and
I
and
I
know
that
that's
a
difficult
pill
to
swallow
for
the
applicants.
I
I
can't
imagine
their
frustration,
but
in
this
particular
instance
they
are
not
just
a
taxpayer.
They
are
Developer
and
as
part
of
a
development
process,
we
are
an
urban
environment
right
across
the
street
is
some
sort
of
a
school
there's,
a
bus,
stop
on
the
corner,
McMillan's
arterial
or
one
parcel
away
from
getting
a
connection.
E
That's
how
sidewalks
and
streets
get
built.
The
achd
is
not
going
to
go
in
and
build
this
sidewalk
because
they
don't
do
improvements
like
this
on
local
streets.
This
is
how
it's
done
and
it's
not
a
fun
process
at
times.
That's
that's.
You
know
in
evidence
this
evening,
but
that's
how
it's
done
and
and
lastly,
the
applicants
are
beneficiaries
of
the
improvements
that
were
made
to
Cranberry
and
their
value.
That
comes
along
with
that
which
is
real
intangible.
So,
unfortunately,
I
don't
see
a
hardship,
that's
been
met.
E
I
think
achd
has
been
clear
that
it
does
fit
within
the
right-of-way
it.
There
is
no
power
pull
in
the
way
it
might
be
tight,
but
a
tight
Street's,
a
good
thing
for
Speed
management.
So
for
all
of
those
reasons,
I
would
actually
entertain
a
motion
and
probably
should
make
one
at
this
point
right.
Mystery.
E
B
K
I
think
it's
been
thoroughly
discussed
but
and
I
agree
with
what's
been
said,
our
reason
statement
is
can
be
found
in
the
staff
report.
K
As
as
was
mentioned,
a
financial
hardship
does
not
qualify
in
our
code
as
a
hardship
and
by
putting
in
sidewalks
it
sounds,
seems
counterintuitive,
but
that
does
that
kind
of
infrastructure
slows
traffic
so
where
it
feel
it
might
feel
unsafe,
because
there's
more
happening
on
the
road
that
that
generally
is
is
better
for
neighborhood
traffic
patterns.
For
all
those
reasons,
and
those
stated
I,
that's
why
I
made
the
motion.
B
Very
good
any
other
comments.
Okay,
all
right,
yeah,
I,
agree,
I.
Think
most
of
the
the
logic
and
the
reasoning
behind
this
typical
requirement
is
is
on
the
record
here
tonight
with
these
comments.
So
while
they
sympathize
with
the
challenges
of
development,
I
think
that
it's
pretty
clear
what
the
the
Mandate
is
here
you
know
and
that
there
isn't
there
is
not
a
hardship,
so
I
will
also
be
supporting
the
motion
as
well.
So
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
again.
B
C
B
Thank
you
all
right
up.
Next
is
item
number
three:
it's
PUD
22-3,
erstat
architects.
B
L
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
sign
number,
for
you
is
pud22-3
an
application
for
a
plan
residential
development
comprised
of
77
multi-family
units.
The
subject
property
is
located
on
5.26
Acres
at
1093,
Hilton
Street
in
an
R2
Zone
and
surrounded
by
a
mixture
of
housing
types
with
commercial
uses
to
the
South,
and
the
east
side
is
currently
being
used
as
an
assisted
living
facility
in
the
applicant
plans
to
use
the
existing
building
and
convert
it
to
a
multi-family
development
with
minimal
changes
to
the
site.
L
This
item
may
look
familiar
as
it
was
before
you
in
April
2022.
At
the
hearing.
There
is
public
comment
concerning
mixed
messaging
from
the
owners
and
impact
on
current
residents.
After
much
deliberation,
the
commission
concluded
that
the
applicant
met
the
Pud
criteria
and,
as
outlined
in
the
project
report,
this
decision
was
appealed
to
city
council
and
in
October
of
2022.
The
council
determined
that
the
applicant
did
not
properly
notice
residents
of
the
facility
following
the
letter
of
the
law
and
not
the
spirit.
L
L
Since
that
meeting
public
comment
has
been
received
concerning
the
stability
and
vulnerability
of
residents,
the
lack
of
relocation
assistance,
especially
financial
assistance,
so
mixed
messaging
from
ownership
and
traffic
increases
involved
with
the
proposal.
While
the
applicant
has
provided
a
draft
relocation
plan,
this
does
not
include
Financial
package
and
is
dependent
on
current
staff
to
assist
in
relocating
their
residents.
L
M
There
it
goes
there,
you
go,
do
the
arrow
button:
okay,
foreign
Mr,
chair,
Commissioners,
Amanda,
shouse,
elimin,
Burke,
251,
Front,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho,
representing
the
owner
and
the
applicant.
We
agree
with
the
staff
report
and
recommendation
for
approval
with
conditions
and
request
approval
of
the
cup.
This
use
meets
the
cup
criteria
as
previously
determined
by
the
commission,
which
criteria
focuses
on
the
land
use
effects
within
the
neighborhood.
M
As
you
know,
the
comp
plan
is
a
Visionary
document
not
meant
to
for
direct
application,
but
at
this
point
in
this
project,
an
apartment
use
that
the
site
does
meet
several
goals
of
the
comp
plan,
which
is
outlined
in
more
detail
in
the
project
report.
Many
have
expressed
concern
with
the
transition
for
the
residents
in
this
process
and
we
have
provided
a
transition
plan
which
is
part
of
your
packet.
M
N
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Mike.
My
name
is
Michael
Seaman
I'm,
a
vice
president
and
I
play
Capital
Partners
we're
the
owners
of
Arbor
Village,
the
senior
housing
community
in
question,
and
our
business
address
is
3021
Citrus,
Circle,
Suite
130,
that's
Walnut,
Creek
California.
N
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today.
I
think
I
should
start
by
apologizing.
I.
Think
this
process
is
cars
caused
a
lot
more
of
a
frenzy
than
we
had
initially
anticipated.
There's
been
a
lot
of
misinformation
and
rumors,
which
led
to
confusion.
We
could
have
done
a
better
job.
Communicating
and
I'll
take
responsibility
for
that,
but
hopefully
I
can
clear
up
some
of
that
confusion.
N
Today
there
are
two
things
I'd
like
to
talk
about
today,
the
first
or
the
economic
conditions
that
led
us
to
be
here
today
seeking
the
cup
and
the
second
is
I'd
like
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
regarding
the
transition.
If
this
cup
is
approved,
we've
been
the
owner
owner
of
senior
housing
communities
for
over
10
years.
We
take
our
responsibility
to
our
residents
to
care
and
serve
for
them
very
seriously
and
try
to
go
above
and
beyond.
To
make
that
happen.
We
bought
Arbor
Village
in
early
2019.
N
C
N
They
can't
admit
any
new
residents
because
of
concerns.
We
had
big
plans
for
the
community.
We
rebuilt
all
the
programming
everything
from
the
food
to
the
care
to
the
activities
and
spent
millions
of
dollars
renovating
the
property.
We
saw
a
neglected
property
that
needed
to
be
fixed,
and
we
did
just
that.
We
never
thought
we'd
be
here
today
having
this
discussion.
N
Unfortunately,
changes
to
the
economy
outside
of
our
control,
covid
inflation
and
changes
to
the
labor
market,
impacted
the
Senior,
Housing
Industry,
so
much
that
it
became
nearly
impossible
to
run
a
sustainable
business
well
covet
caused
occupancy
and
revenue
decline,
inflation
and
changes
to
labor.
Due
of
our
expenses
up
substantially.
N
Oops
occupancy
for
the
Senior
High
season,
Senior
Housing
Industry
plummeted
due
to
covid
and
currently
averages
about
82
percent.
Our
community
to
Arbor
Village
is
75
occupied
the
red
line
on
the
chart.
You
see
tracks
Assisted
Living,
which
is
what
we
do
with
vacancy
at
roughly
20
percent,
there's
simply
too
much
Supply
in
industry,
and
that
is
hurting
everyone.
N
While
occupancy
and
revenue
went
down
our
costs
skyrocketed
between
2020
and
2022,
the
cost
to
employees
similar
Staffing
structure
at
Arbor
Village
increased
by
roughly
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Other
costs,
food
and
supplies
also
increased.
So
an
aggregate
between
2020
and
2022.
Our
total
cost
to
operate
have
increased
by
over
1
million
dollars
due
to
inflation
and
wage
increases.
N
Like
all
businesses,
we
hope
that
our
income,
which
is
our
rent,
is
enough
to
pay
our
expenses.
But
that's
not
the
case.
Over
the
course
of
pandemic,
we
lost
over
1.5
million
dollars.
In
2022
alone,
we
lost
over
700
000.
The
rent,
our
residence
pay
does
not
cover
the
costs
around
our
community.
So
in
2022
we
had
events,
we
essentially
subsidized
each
one
of
our
residents
by
seven
thousand
seven
hundred
fifty
dollars.
We
paid
money
for
our
residents
to
live
in
our
community,
but
it's
not
just
us.
N
The
entire
industry
is
struggling
in
Boise,
specifically
two
of
our
most
direct
competitors.
In
our
similar
position.
There
are
76
and
81
occupied
and
both
are
operating
in
a
monthly
loss.
Some
owners
have
chose
not
to
fund
these
shortfalls
and
have
simply
abruptly
closed
their
doors.
We've
been
funding
the
operator
operational
shortfalls
to
keep
the
community
running,
but
unfortunately
we
can
only
do
that
for
so
long.
That
is
why
we're
here
today
asking
for
this:
the
approval
of
the
cup.
Remember
the
high
vacancy
from
a
few
slides
ago
and
changing
our
use
to
multi-family.
N
First,
we
assembled
a
list
of
21
other
similar
senior
housing
communities
in
the
area,
a
list
of
39
communities
in
the
county
that
accept
Medicaid
residents
and
a
list
of
14
referral
agents
that
operate
in
the
area.
These
lists
include
names
and
contact
info.
It
will
be
provided
to
our
residents
of
the
appropriate
type.
N
Now
I
mentioned
referral
agents.
So
let
me
talk
about
how
the
senior
housing
business
Works
a
little
bit
senior
housing
is
a
very
sales
driven.
Business
communities
have
dedicated
marketers
whose
sole
job
is
to
get
movements.
Then
there's
also
referral
agents
they're,
not
affiliated
with
any
specific
Community.
They
have
relationships
with
multiple
communities
and
help
guide
seniors
through
the
process
to
help
them
find
the
best
home.
They
do
that
at
no
cost
to
seniors
marketers
and
referral
agents
are
highly
incentivized
to
get
movements.
This
is
a
very
competitive
business
in
which
they
aggressively
Court
seniors.
N
Using
tactics
such
as
house
calls
sending
gifts
and
inviting
seniors
for
free
meals.
Our
competitors
have
units
to
fill
and
will
be
eager
to
talk
to
and
help
our
residents
in
any
way
possible.
Keep
that
in
mind,
because
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
that
to
further
confirm
availability.
Earlier
this
month
we
kept
called
a
handful
of
communities
and
referral
agents
to
acquire
about
availability
overall,
do
there
more
and
there
are
more
than
enough
available
units
to
absorb
our
residents
if
needed.
N
Moreover,
almost
immediately
after
we
made
some
of
these
inquiries,
we
had
the
same
people
calling
our
residents
and
families
trying
to
get
them
to
switch
communities
with.
We
also
had
people
show
up
our
community
doing
to
do
the
same
thing.
They
provided
inaccurate,
misleading
information
such
as
saying
our
building
was
going
to
close
tomorrow
and
that
they
would
end
up
on
the
street
if
they
didn't
move
that
day.
N
Well,
the
fear-mongering
certainly
wasn't
appreciated
I,
don't
say
that
to
throw
our
competitors
under
the
bus,
but
I
do
think
it
speaks
to
the
urgency
that
our
competitors
have
to
fill
units.
Other
communities
are
treading
water,
just
like
us
and
are
desperate
to
achieve
a
higher
occupancy,
so
their
business
can
survive
to
further
demonstrate
the
availability.
We
also
looked
at
some
some
industry
data.
Nick
Maps
is
a
data
service
that
tracks
the
Senior
Housing
Industry.
According
to
them.
N
N
Another
concern
that
arose
was
if
we
convert
how
do
we
provide
for
a
smooth
transition?
First,
we
are
licensed
and
regulated
by
the
state
and
would
comply
with
all
the
regulations
throughout
the
process.
Second,
we'll
provide
at
least
four
months
advance
notice
before
any
Resident
has
to
leave,
and
third
we've
provided
a
comprehensive
transition
plan
which
is
based
on
a
residence
resident-centric
process
in
which
we
will
work
with
each
resident
and
family
to
find
the
best
new
home
for
them.
N
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
hope,
I,
hope
you
better
understand
why
we
are
here
today
asking
for
this.
The
approval
of
this
cup
and
I
hope
I've
been
able
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised.
We
agree
with
the
staff
recommendation
to
approve
the
cup
and
we
ask
for
your
approval
as
well.
B
B
I
think
we're
good
staff.
Okay,
we're
gonna,
go
ahead
and
move
on
then
to
questions
of
by
the
commission
to
either
the
staff
or
the
applicant.
J
You
decided
to
availability
in
in
your
presentation
and
I'm,
just
wondering
if
that
covers
Medicaid
as
well,
because
I
know
some
of
these
locations
and
some
of
these
facilities
are.
You
are
accepting
Medicare
and
different
types
of
insurance,
but
what
about
Medicaid
itself.
C
N
N
Better
yeah,
thank
you.
Yes,
it
does,
and
so
we
called
both
Medicaid
and
non-medicated
communities
and
found
that
there's
ample
availability
in
both
to
be
candid
Medicaid
is
more
challenging
of
a
of
a
space
to
fill,
and
to
give
you
a
little
bit
of
background
on
that,
you
know.
Unfortunately,
the
reimbursement
for
Medicaid
come
nowhere
close
to
to
covering
what
we
need
to
to
pay
our
bills
and
just
as
a
quick
example,
it
cost
us
roughly
four
thousand
dollars
per
per
resident.
N
N
So
it's
it's
a
very
unfortunate
situation,
but
we're
in
a
tough
economic
situation-
and
you
know,
unfortunately,
we're
struggling
to
pay
our
bills
as
is
but
again
to
answer
your
original
question.
We've
we've
confirmed
both
sides
of
it
and
have
found
communities
that
are
willing
to
take
both
Reddit
Medicaid
and
what
we
call
Private
pay
residents.
C
A
K
When
you
were
putting
together
your
relocation
package
or
the
yeah,
the
relocation
package,
I
think
you
for
for
Judas.
Were
there
any
state
or
national
programs
that
you
used
as
a
guidance
to
create
that?
Did
you
yeah?
Did
you
receive
any
input
from
other
organizations
and
we
received
letters
from
Intermountain,
Faith,
Housing,
Council
I
know.
Hud
has
some
suggestions
out
there.
M
Mr
chair,
commissioner,
we
used
as
a
base
best
practices
manual
from
the
state
of
Michigan,
which
was
designed
for
a
nursing
home
transition
and
we
adapted
it
to
assisted
living
facilities.
We
were
not
able
to
find
an
example
of
a
specific
transition
plan,
so
that's
something
that
we
worked
on
together
and
came
up
with
ourselves.
Thank
you.
C
O
One
of
the
biggest
questions
that
I
have
based
on
your
presentation
is
the
location
of
those
other
facilities
in
the
city.
I,
think
one
when
I'm
thinking
about
impacts
on
the
community
and
things
like
that
and
wondering
you
know.
A
lot
of
people
probably
chose
this
location
for
its
proximity
to
something
whether
it's
family
or
a
bus,
stopper,
or
something
like
that
and
just
getting
an
understanding
of
where
the
options
are
located,
might
help
kind
of
mitigate.
Some
of
my
concerns
about
maybe
getting
impacts
to
the.
N
Yeah,
so
the
broader
stat
that
I
provided
with
over
350
units
is,
is
within
the
stock
market.
So
that's
not
all
of
Boise.
It's
just
a
sell
Market
within
Boise
the
competitors
we
called
were
all
within
a
several
mile
radius,
and
there
was
two
communities
I
mentioned
that
had
50
available
units
within
them.
One
is
within
walking
distance
to
our
community
and
the
other
was
about
four
miles
away.
N
L
E
Mr
chairman
commissioner
Danley
I'm
gonna
I
need
a
question.
I
need
you
all
to
educate
me
on
something,
and-
and
this
might
be
something
that
one
of
our
folks
who
I
think
is
going
to
testify
here
soon
from
Intermountain.
Fair
housing
might
also
be
able
to
shed
light
on
if
they
close
their
doors
tomorrow.
M
Our
applicant
has
offered
form
what
was
it
for
four
months
of
notice:
the
tenants
the
residents
are
technically
attendants
and
they
have
all
assigned
contracts
that
have
a
30-day
notice
of
termination.
If
we
decided
to
go
that
route,
which,
of
course,
we
have
not.
E
M
From
this
look
at
here,
Mr
chair
commissioner
Danley,
just
as
a
quick
note
of
clarification,
my
understanding
is
that
tenant
relocation
packages.
Typically
when
there's
a
federally
funded
project,
are
there
federal
dollars
involved,
which
is
not
not
the
case
here.
F
K
Weekend
when
I
was
looking
into
it,
I
can
also
say
that
there
is
I.
Think
that's
what
maybe
is
being
referenced.
Is
that
there's
a
uniform
relocation
act
that
hide?
That
is
a
HUD
law
that
that
does
have
guidelines,
but
it
is
only
required
for
federal
land.
B
Into
the
applicant
too,
just
for
a
point
of
clarification,
so
I
think
in
the
the
plan,
that's
in
our
packet
I
think
you
mentioned
60
days
of
notice,
but
now
here
obviously
tonight
you
mentioned
four
months
of
notice,
which
we
double
that.
So
we
have
one
number
in
writing
and
one
number
orally
we'll.
B
K
Chair
sir
question,
so
in
your
testimony
you
said
that
you
would
work
with
the
families
to
find
the
best
home
for
them.
Can
you
describe
what
that
looks
like?
Are
you
hiring
an
agency
to
help
with
that?
Is
that
just
answering
questions
sure
so.
N
So
I
think
it's
maybe
if
I
can
take
a
step
back.
This
happens
a
lot
right,
so
we
have
residents
that
move
from
one
Community
to
another
because
they
have
a
friend
they
have
a
boyfriend.
They
like
the
food
better.
So
this
is
something
that
we're
dealing
with
on
a
daily
and
weekly
basis,
but
I
think
to
my
point
about
the
marketers
and
referral
agents.
What
often
happens
is
that
we
have
these
people
from
these
referral
agencies,
the
marketers,
who
will
show
up
and
guide
our
residents
through
the
process.
N
They
often
don't
want
us
to
be
involved,
but
we
have
people
at
our
community
who
help
our
residents
as
much
for
as
little
as
they.
So
if
they
need
help
a
ride
to
a
tour,
we
can
provide
that
if
they
need
help
calling
other
communities
to
see
availability,
we
can
provide
that
we
will
be
there
to
support
our
residents
in
every
way
possible.
I
just
think
it's
going
to
be
very
specific,
because
some
residents
will
have
a
plan
in
their
mind
and
want
to
do
it
themselves.
N
L
J
J
Exactly
it
so
in
the
tenant
agreement,
I
believe
there
was
a
non-refundable
deposit
and
I'm
asking
this.
This
is
probably
going
to
come
up
in
public
comment
because
it
was
in
our
packets,
our
late
correspondence
package.
But
can
you
maybe
comment
it's?
J
Basically,
there
is
some
correspondence
that
I
believe
said
that,
after
you
were
aware
that
this
facility
was
going
to
the
cep
was
going
to
come
in
front
of
us
and
you
were
going
to
make
the
changes
that
you
were
still
collecting
the
non-refundable
deposit
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you
can
touch
on
that
or
maybe
discuss
that
how
much
it
cost
to
maybe
be.
If
that
was,
if
that's
the
case,
because
we
probably
will
receive
some
comment
on
it
tonight.
Sure.
N
So
if
you're
thinking
of
a
typical
apartment
community,
you
typically
provide
a
deposit,
that's
refundable,
upon
move
out
to
cover
damages
and
in
the
Senior
Housing
Industry.
What
is
typical
across
just
about
every
Community
is
that
you
pay
what's
called
a
community
fee
which
covers
your
movement
and
a
lot
of
what
that
expense
goes
to
is
when
you
move
in
an
assessment
has
to
be
done
by
a
nurse
of
the
resident
to
look
at
their
care
needs.
What
needs
to
be
done?
N
A
plan
is
put
together
to
provide
for
their
care,
see
what
type
of
medication
they
need
set
that
up
and
that
fee
is
to
cover
that
set
up
in
those
initial
Services,
so
that's
typically
charged
to
each
and
every
resident,
Upon
A
move-in,
and
that's
not
just
for
us.
That's
an
industry
standard.
B
Okay,
I'll
follow
up
with
a
couple
more
questions
for,
for
you,
Mr
C.
Maybe
you
don't
mind.
Is
there
any
magic
number
to
get
back
to
my
questioning
about
the
nursing
period?
Is
there
any
magic
number
to
the
four
months
there,
or
is
that
a
little
bit?
Is
there
flexibility
in
that
number
to
some
degree,
or
is
there
some
sort
of
a
financial
reason.
N
Behind
that
I
think
we're
cognizant
of
the
financial
ramifications,
but
we're
aware
release
is
30
days
notice.
We
provided
for
two
months.
We
thought
we'd
be
give
residents
more
time
and
I
think
just
with
our
knowledge
of
the
industry.
We
thought
four
months
was
more
than
ample
time
to
do
so,
but
would
give
us
plenty
of
buffer
okay,
great
to
my
point
before
we
have
residents,
often
that
are
moving
out.
N
B
And
I
guess:
that's
a
nice
nice
segue
on
to
my
next
question
regarding
the
other
facilities
that
you
surveyed
about
their
availability
from
a
financial
perspective,
are
there
rents
comparable
comparable
to
yours,
or
do
you
have
any
knowledge
of
that?
What's
the
what's
the
span
that
we're
looking
at
as
far
as
these
other
facilities
compared
to
yours
from
a
cost
perspective,
the.
N
Two
of
that
I
mentioned
that
are
have
substantial
availability
nearby
are
very
close
and
we
have
access
to
their
rates.
N
As
with
anything,
there's
the
high
end,
the
low
end
in
the
middle
I
would
say
our
community
is
probably
in
the
middle
range,
so
residents
would
have
the
option
to
go
up
down
or
stay
the
same,
but
I
think
given
the
the
availability
that's
out
there,
most
residents
will
have
choices
to
pick
where
on
the
spectrum,
they
would
like
to
end
up.
B
K
Question
so
I
was
here
for
the
last
hearing
and
I
remember
hearing
often
about
how
from
the
families
about
how
the
I
think
they
had
to
pay
out
of
pocket
for
the
first
six
months
and
then
then
Insurance
kicks
in
after
that.
Are
you
familiar
with
that
and
how
is
that?
How
does
that
transfer
in
this
transition.
N
So
I
mentioned
that
the
term
private
pay
before
which
is
basically
when
someone
pays
out
of
pocket
for
delivered
our
community
and
that
can
be
them
their
family
or
something
else.
Medicaid
a
Medicaid
resident
is
fully
reimbursed
by
Medicaid
and
then
there
are
some
people
that
have
some
money
and
to
qualify
for
Medicaid.
You
have
to
fall
under
a
certain
Financial
threshold
so
as
they
spend
down
their
funds,
they
can
later
qualify
for
Medicaid.
K
N
So
each
Community
basically
decides
how
they
want
to
treat
it
and
I
think
to
the
questions
before
about
Medicaid
availability,
there's
certain
fewer
Medicaid
facilities
or
communities
out
there,
and
that's
why
some
will
accept
only
private
pay
residents.
Some
will
accept
the
mix.
Some
will
only
accept
Medicaid
if
you
walk
in
and
spend
six
months
worth
of
your
own
money
and
spend
it
down
it's
just
it's
an
individual
decision
for
each
Community
to
make.
Thank
you.
B
Stephen,
could
you
refresh
our
memory
on
your
current
vacancy
rate
and
the
number
of
residents
you
have
right
now
at
the
facility
facility,
the.
N
N
B
Oh
I'm,
sorry
and
one
more
for
you,
sorry
I
was
right.
Writing
my
notes.
Didn't
see
you
walk
away
so
then,
at
the
at
your
last,
this
last
go
around
European
meeting
I.
Believe
56
residents
attended
from
our
records
here
those
names
were
redacted
from
our
packet,
so
that's
about
I
mean
that's
a
little
lower
half
of
your
current
residence.
Can
you
speak
to
why
you
I
would
expect
that
number
to
be
higher
to
be
quite
Frank?
B
B
N
I
I
couldn't
speak
for
those
residents,
but
I
think
that
we
do.
We've
tried
to
increase
our
communication
and
explain
to
our
residents.
What's
been
going
on
and
hopefully
answer
their
questions
and
one
thing
our
residents
certainly
are
not.
Is
shy
and
I
think
the
moment
they
have
an
issue
they
storm
into
our
offices
and
start
asking
questions,
and
perhaps
they
felt
like
their
issues
were
addressed,
but
I
don't
really
have
an
answer
for
you.
Okay,.
E
E
I'm,
just
making
sure
I
have
the
all
of
everything
is
black
and
white
and
clear
in
front
of
me
so
just
to
make
sure
I'm
right.
So
there
there
is
no
financial
assistance
in
the
relocation.
They
would
have
to
come
up.
I
I,
don't
know
the
industry
very
well,
but
I
believe
I'm
gonna
guess
it's
similar.
Like
you
mentioned,
there's
a
fee,
most
facilities
charge
up
front
for
what
did
you
call
it?
The
assessment
anything
the
community
fee,
so
they're
going
to
have
to
come
up
with
that?
Is
that
accurate.
N
E
That's
fair
and
I
appreciate
your
candor
I'm,
just
making
sure
I
have
a
clear
understanding
so
typically,
then
also
I,
don't
think
it's
like
first
and
last
kind
of
a
thing.
It's
right!
It's
it's
a
very
different
situation,
but
you
have
that
fee
up
front,
maybe
some
other
potential
fee
and
then
we
hit
the
ground
running
and
off.
We
go
every
month,
we're
paying
our
fee.
So,
okay,
I
I,
think
that
answers
my
question
I'm
just
talking
a
lot
more
than
anything.
So
thank
you.
B
O
I'm
going
from
115
units
to
77
units
is
reducing
density,
but
it
sounds
like
from
what
I
was
reading
in
a
stack
report.
The
city
looks
at
that
sort
of
density
differently.
Is
that
correct
or
I
guess?
Can
you
help
clarify
how
that
density
is
looked
at
compared
to
Apartments.
L
O
So
if
you're
going
through
a
new
project,
a
new
Assisted
Living
project
or
Senior
Care
Project,
or
something
through
that
cup
application
trying
to
figure
out,
what's
the
most
density,
I
can
add
in
a
how
many
rooms
can
I
have
in
this
particular
facility.
How
would
we
go
about
that?
Would
that
just
be
based
on
some
Dimensions
or
what
is
that?
L
That
density,
I,
guess
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Moore
I,
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
How
that
particular
one
was
done
because
there
was
a
CP
with
I
believe
from
2008.
So
there's
some
calculations
were
done
a
while
ago,
but
I
can
tell
you
that
when
we
look
at
multi-family
you
look
at
units
and
they
can
have
multiple
bedrooms
as
well.
So
that's
how
the
densities
calculate
for
multi-family
in
this
instance
for
this
assisted,
Care,
Facility
I'm,
not
sure
what
the
the
rate
was
I.
L
Mr
chair
commissioner
Moore
there's
not
a
specific
density
count.
It's
done
by
square
footage,
I
believe
of
the
the
facility.
M
C
B
Sorry
I
follow
up
for
staff
as
well,
Jesse,
sorry
and
you're
getting
up
and
down
now.
I
just
want
to
be
just
want
to
confirm
for
the
record
here
for
everybody
tonight.
B
Getting
back
to
my
Atlanta
questioning
to
the
applicant
regarding
the
neighborhood
meeting
staff
feels
that
you
know
the
proper
notices
were
sent
out
at
this
point
for
the
second
and
go
around
on
this
particular
project
and
that
all
the
proper
notifications
are
in
place.
Schedule
was
adhered
to.
That
sort
of
thing.
Can
you
confirm
all
that.
L
Mr,
chair
Melissa
Commissioners,
so
at
this
point
the
noticing
was
done
in
a
very
different
way
than
our
code
requirement,
based
on
the
unique
situation
of
this
facility,
and
so
the
applicant
got
a
list
of
the
room
numbers
and
was
able
to
deliver
neighborhood
meeting
notifications
to
those
residents
in
those
rooms.
And
then
the
city
also
notified
based
on
the
room
number
and
had
all
those
delivered.
And
then
the
site
was
posted
as
well.
I
was
noticing
in
the
newspaper.
B
Okay,
great
thanks
thanks,
okay,
we'll
go
ahead!
Then
now
we'll
move
to
public.
Testimony
on
this
item,
I've
had
a
Fair
number
of
folks
sign
up
ahead
of
time
here,
if
you're
in
person,
you
will
take
testimony
here
at
the
podium
when
you
come
on
up.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
for
the
record.
Everyone
will
have
three
minutes
to
testify:
we're
going
to
keep
that
time
right
at
three
minutes.
B
Okay
sure
thing:
that's
a
good
call,
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
a
five
minute
break
and
then
we'll
be
back
for
public
testimony
and
I'll
give
you
all
the
instructions
one
more
time
at
that
point,
thanks:
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
open
this
back
up!
Welcome
back
everybody
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
into
public
testimony
on
this
item
again,
if
you're
here
in
person,
we'll
have
everybody
come
to
the
podium
here
again,
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
when
you
begin
your
testimony,
everybody
gets
three
minutes
to
testify.
B
We're
gonna
hold
you
right
to
that
three
minutes
tonight,
because
I
have
a
feeling
of
a
few
folks,
testifying
there'll,
be
a
clock
clock
up
on
this
screen
for
you
to
track
your
time
once
we
get
through
the
folks
that
are
in
person
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
folks
that
are
online
and
we'll
run
through
folks
that
raise
their
hands
online
at
that
time.
B
So
with
that,
I
do
have
a
number
of
folks
that
signed
up
I
can
read
through
this
list
to
start
us
off:
Annie
Baird,
Leon,
Scott
and
Tracy.
Snyder
were
the
first
three
that
signed
in.
If
you
folks
want
to
come
up
and
queue
up,
Podium
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
with
the
public
testimony.
R
The
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
I'm
Not
Annie
she's
over
here,
but
she's
having
an
episode.
So
if
it's
okay,
I'll
read
her,
she
had
a
statement.
She
wanted
to
read
into
the
record
yeah.
R
Is
your
statement
and
she's
the
resident
at
Arbor
Village?
Okay,
on
it's
number
256.?
Okay,
my
name
is
Andy
Barrett
I'm,
75
years
old
and
I
have
Parkinson's
breast
cancer
and
polio.
When
I
was
two
years
old,
last
June
I
sat
down
to
sign
a
lease
for
assisted
living
apartment.
At
a
barber
Village
before
I
signed,
I
asked
about
a
proposal
to
Boise
planning
and
zoning.
R
It
was
a
plan
by
owners
of
Arbor
Village
that
was
approved
in
April
15th,
an
April
5th
meeting
to
convert
the
assisted
living
facility
into
Apartments
Arbor
Village
staff
assured
me
that
DiNapoli
was
going
to
finish
up
the
paperwork,
but
there
was
no
plan
to
move
forward
with
a
conversion.
As
a
result
of
this
assurance,
I
moved
into
my
apartment
in
the
end
of
June.
Imagine
my
distress
in
November
when
it
became
clear
that
DiNapoli
was
indeed
moving
forward
with
the
towards
the
conversion.
Questions
began
to
Circle
through
the
residence.
R
R
R
We
have
no
money,
the
people
there
have
Parkinson's
diabetes,
they've
suffered
Strokes,
limited
eyesight
due
to
glaucoma
and
other
diet
diseases.
We
have
problems
with
our
hearing
where
we
were
exposed
to
chemicals
while
fighting
for
our
country.
We
are
80,
90
and
even
100
years
old.
We
paid
our
way
to
move
into
Arbor
and
love
living
here.
It
will
cost
us
dearly
to
vacate
our
homes,
not
only
in
dollars
and
cents,
but
also
in
mental
and
physical
health.
R
Perhaps
the
group
that
created
this
problem
should
be
asked
to
provide
whatever
money
and
assistance
is
required
to
solve
this
problem.
As
a
conditional
for
approval
of
converting
single
family
housing,
they
need
to
have
some
fully
funded,
approved,
viable
transition
plan
to
assist
residents
with
moving.
S
T
Well,
I
was
going
to
be
called,
but
he
kind
of
so
Tracy
Snyder
4470,
North,
Linda,
Vista,
Lane
Boise,
so
my
mother
lives
at
Arbor
Village
and
her
too
moved
in
almost
a
year
ago
and
here's
the
paperwork
that
stated
that
they
were
not
moving
forward
with
anything,
and
that
is
why
we
moved
in
there.
T
I've
worked
in
the
medical
community
here
for
over
30
years
and
so
I
know
a
lot
about
what
happens
in
this
area,
and
so
I
need
to
help.
You
people
understand
what
type
of
facilities
these
people
are
going
to
the
facility
that
my
mom
was
at
before
this,
their
van,
which
was
unknown,
announced
to
me
my
mother,
did
not
tell
me,
was
being
driven
the
residents
around
with
any
without
any
registration
that
went
on
for
a
year.
Is
that
a
good
facility
to
go
to
or
safe
for
my
mother?
T
No,
and
then
they
lied
to
the
residence
residents
for
another
year
stating
that
the
van
was
broke
it
wasn't
they
just
didn't,
get
it
registered
during
covid.
Also,
at
that
place
they
had
the
staff
go
to
Costco,
Cash
and
Carry
to
go,
get
food
to
make
for
the
residents
because
they
were
going
through
Cooks
like
crazy.
T
That's
not
a
good
place
to
go
to
not
to
mention
you
have
two
different
things:
you're
working
here
with
Medicaid,
and
you
have
the
regular
paying
people
you
can
give
them
all
the
money
you
want
to
start
out
to
move
somewhere
for
Grand.
Whatever
someplace
did
that's
not
going
to
take
them
very
far
and
if
they
have
to
they
live
on
a
fixed
income.
T
They
can't
afford
it
after
that,
four
thousand
and
until
I
have
it
in
writing
that
it's
not
going
to
cost
my
mom
to
go
to
another
facility
and
pay
another
twenty
five
hundred
dollars.
He
doesn't
know
what
other
facilities
are
going
to
do.
Nobody
does
right
so
also
one
of
the
things
is
Medicaid
those
facilities.
These
people
live
in
a
nice
little
apartment.
They
have
all
their
facilities,
they
have
dogs,
they
have
cats,
they
have
all
of
their
belongings.
Most
of
the
Medicaid
places
around.
Here.
T
You
share
a
room,
not
an
apartment,
you're
lucky
to
have
a
dresser
in
your
clothes
and
that's
what
some
of
the
Medicaid
places
some
of
the
really
nice
ritzy
places,
that's
what
they
do
for
their
Medicaid
patients.
They
share
a
room
how's
my
mom,
going
to
do
that
with
her
wheelchair
she's
perfectly
fine
at
our
review.
She
takes
care
of
herself.
T
She
takes
her
own
showers,
everything
you
put
her
in
one
of
those
places
she
gets
to
shower
three
times
a
week
and
in
a
in
a
big
shower
that
everybody
else
does
you
have
to
take
your
turn
and
I?
Don't
think,
that's
that's
appropriate
and
you
want
to
put
just
77
families.
What
do
you
do
with
90
people,
and
are
you
truly
going
to
help
them
you're
going
to
help
them
find
a
place
right
now?
The
van
doesn't
even
take
him
to
doctor's
appointments.
T
B
R
R
My
name
is
Leon
Scott
2218,
West,
State,
Street
Boise,
and
why
Mike
just
really
painted
a
Rosy
picture?
I
just
took
a
few
notes
on
this,
and
one
thing
I
wanted
to
combat
the
neighborhood
being
that
we
had
in
November
was
packed
I,
don't
know
if
everybody
signed
it
up,
but
everybody
was
there.
R
Some
of
them
couldn't
sign
it
I
mean
they
can't
talk,
they
can't
see
they
can't
hear,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
people
there
I
think
a
lot
of
I
I
hope
there's
a
few
of
them
watching
from
Arbor
Village
tonight,
but
they
don't
they.
They
can't
attend,
they
can't
attend
and,
furthermore,
they're
scared,
they're
scared,
I
mean
they're
intimidated.
R
I
I'm,
really
intrigued
by
this
transition
plan
that
they
got
from
Michigan
I
mean
it's
really
short
on
specifics.
I
did
hear
tonight
that
it's
going
to
be
four
months
possibly,
but
that
was
a
wow.
That
was
a
really
in-depth
plan
and
I
just
really
question
whether
a
staff
on
site,
the
staff
that
they
have
can
do
something
like
that.
U
U
I
feel
like
there's
been
an
overestimation
of
available
options
for
Medicaid
patients
or
residents
assisted
living
facilities
from
the
people
that
I
work
with
a
lot
of
times,
I
have
been
told,
assisted
living
facilities
will
require
one
to
two
years
of
private
pay
and
that
can
range
from
anywhere
from
four
to
six
thousand
dollars
a
month
depending
on
the
options,
so
we're
looking
at
fifty
thousand
a
hundred
thousand
and
then
they
might
be
able
to
stay
in
place
after
all
of
their
money
has
run
out
if
the
facility
is
allowing
them
because
they
have
an
available
Medicaid
allotment.
U
So
I
really
feel
like
there's
an
overestimation
of
his
statement
of
a
facility
requiring
six
months
of
private
pay
and
I
definitely
feel
like
there's
an
overestimation
of
available
bed
options.
I'm
very
concerned
that
there's
no
like
in
writing
requirements
that
they
will
have
to
find
their
residents
on
Medicaid
a
place.
U
That
is
a
huge
concern
again.
No,
you
know
no
financing,
I
think
that
everybody
here
really
spoke
to
What.
The
residents
themselves
will
go
through,
but
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
broader
picture
of
that.
I.
Think
that
there's
an
overestimation
of
what
is
actually
available
and
hoping
for
the
Good
Will
of
other
communities
to
accept
it
is
I.
Think
that's
a
little
dicey.
U
S
Commissioners
in
public,
my
name
is
Daniel
Hutcherson
I
live
at
102
North
Jan
Tony,
here
in
Boise,
going
to
modify
what
I
intended
to
say
a
little
bit
by
what
I've
heard
tonight.
The
bulk
of
what
I
heard
from
this
developer
was
a
financial
concern,
but
we
heard
just
a
few
minutes
ago
that
Financial
concerns
are
not
an
issue
in
which
variations
or
changes
in
the
zoning
codes
should
be
made
yeah.
S
But
when
we
look
at
the
Boise
planning
documents,
they
say
that
compassion
for
the
elderly,
for
the
disabled,
in
the
disfranchised,
in
the
lower
economic
bracks
as
one
of
the
major
goals
of
the
city
of
Boise,
so
displacing
the
most
vulnerable
people
in
the
community
from
their
home
at
a
very
delicate
vulnerable
time
of
their
life,
is
very
inappropriate
and
creates
a
real
hazard.
S
I,
don't
know
if
any,
how
many
people
in
this
room
I
imagine
most
of
them
have
had
to
deal
with
either
placing
themselves
or
an
elderly
relative
into
a
care
facility
and
there's
no
aspect
in
life
that
is
more
stressful,
both
physically
and
mentally,
to
not
only
the
person
that
has
to
move
out
of
their
long-term
home
into
a
care
facility,
but
also
on
the
family
members
and
those
responsible
for
care.
There's
a
lot
of
disillusionment
stress
as
a
combat
veteran
I
found
places.
S
My
mother
in
a
care
facility
was
far
more
stressful
than
hardcore
combat
in
Vietnam
and
so
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
consider
those
type
of
considerations
in
changing
and
allowing
for
care
facilities
for
this
vulnerable
population
to
be
converted
into
a
regular
apartment
of
complexes.
So
thank
you
for
your
night.
Your
time.
B
L
B
L
I'm
Lori
from
Intermountain
Fair,
Housing
Council
we're
a
non-profit.
His
mission
is
to
ensure
open,
inclusive
housing
for
all
persons
without
regard
to
race,
color,
sex,
religion,
national
origin,
the
Malia
status,
sexual
orientation,
gender
identity,
source
of
income
or
disability.
Most
people
are
familiar
with
the
fair
housing
acts
application
to
housing
providers.
However,
the
Fair
Housing
Act
also
applies
to
land
use
decisions.
L
Ifhc
is
in
opposition
to
converting
Arbor
Village
Assisted
Living
facility
into
market
rate
Apartments,
because
it
will
harm
our
community
in
numerous
ways.
Not
only
has
it
does,
it
have
the
potential
for
displacement
and
mass
eviction
of
100
or
so
vulnerable
seniors
many
with
disabilities,
a
federally
protected
class,
but
also
represent
the
net
decrease
of
33
percent
of
units
in
a
much
needed
category.
Long-Term
care
from
our
City's
housing
inventory.
L
But
the
closure
of
this
particular
facility
has
even
wider
implications
as
it
would
be
taking
place
amid
a
rash
of
long-term
care
closures,
Statewide
in
here
in
their
Treasure
Valley.
The
very
same
time
that
Idaho
was
among
the
fastest
growing
states
in
the
nation.
Over
five
years
Statewide
there
have
been
47
facility
closures,
917
beds
in
over
in
20,
in
2021
nine
facilities,
310
beds
in
the
Treasure
Valley
Capital,
Partners
I'm.
L
It's
unfortunate
that
as
investors
continue
to
Target
Boise's
existing
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing
that
they
are
now
coming
for
our
long-term
care
facilities,
the
last
Refuge
of
the
most
vulnerable
Among
Us,
seniors
and
people
with
physical
and
mental
disabilities.
Displacement
of
this
population
burdens
our
community
with
the
cost
of
being
destabilized
and
unhoused.
L
More
health
and
safety
calls
to
emergency
responders
and
hospitalizations
that
result
in
people
moving
from
lower
cost,
integrated,
community-based
housing
to
shelters
or
more
restrictive
environments
when
they
could
otherwise
live
integrated
in
community
at
both
lower
societal
and
personal
costs,
so
I'm
just
going
to
transition.
So
you
asked
about
what
was
required
by
Hud.
L
The
Medicaid
requires
a
transition
plan
if
people
are
moved
from
their
Care
Center
and
then
be
affirmatively.
Furthering
fair
housing
actually
is
a
mandate
to
undo
a
history
of
segregation
in
our
country
and
there's
a
new
rule
coming
down
from
the
Biden
Administration
on
that,
and
then
the
developer
claims
that
the
application
increases
the
stock
of
housing
or
comp
plan
policies
aimed
at
doing
so
when,
in
fact
it
decreases
housing
for
folks
with
disabilities
are
arguably
constitutes
an
act
of
discrimination
itself.
B
V
Q
Van
Dyke
5607
West
Edson
in
Boise
I'm
against
the
conversion
because
of
the
amount
of
existing
apartment
buildings
that
are
surrounding
the
quadrants
of
my
property
increase
in
noise
and
traffic
going
through
and
using
my
street
as
a
through
Street.
Currently,
the
grounds
existing
at
Arbor
Village
are
quiet
and
peaceful.
S
Q
Also
multi-family,
if
it
gets
transitioned,
is
no
longer
just
four
or
five
people.
I
have
renters
that
have
lived
next
to
me
in
the
last
10
years
anyway.
A
lot
a
high
transition
of
people
renting
on
both
sides
of
me
and
it's
it.
It's
three
generations
of
families
in
the
in
the
house
and
the
house
is
only
a
thousand
square
feet.
Q
I
found
out
about
this
walking
my
dog
through
our
Village
and
the
sign
for
the
conversion
was
facing
north
and
south,
and
it
was
on
Philippi
and
I.
I
cross
Philippi
and
in
a
car
I
would
have
never
seen
that
sign
advertising
the
conversion.
Q
So
then
I
found
out
about
the
the
Boise
City
meeting
in
October
and
I
did
that
on
zoom
and
then
what
came
out
of
that
meeting,
I
understood
was
that
the
advertisement
wasn't
proper
for
notifying
people,
and
it
turns
out
that
the
article
that
was
in
the
paper
said
after
the
city
meeting
said
that
it
it
made.
It
seem
like
it
was
mostly
for
the
residents,
so
they
notified
the
residents.
Q
That
was
their
intention,
but
I
thought
it
was
to
notify
the
people
that
lived
in
the
neighborhood
I
believe
I,
just
I
have
so
much
to
say
and
I,
don't
know
how
to
say
it
on
November
29th
at
the
meeting
at
Arbor
Village,
it
was
obvious
at
the
meeting
of
which
the
majority
were
the
residents
that
there
was
no
plan
of
where
those
people
would
be
able
to
go
and.
Q
And
they
just
some
of
them
had
all
they.
They
were
advised
by
management,
because
I
asked
several
people
as
I
walked.
My
dog
through
there
for
the
for
the
last
for
the
month
like
October
to
November
I,
would
ask
some
people,
you
know.
Do
you
live
here
and
where
are
you
going
to
go
if
they
move?
Oh,
we
were
told
not
to
worry.
Q
The
management
says
that
we're
they're,
not
it's
not
going
to
happen,
and
so
up
until
this
meeting
on
October
on
November
29th,
they
really
didn't
think
that
this
was
gonna
take
place
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
they
were
notified
that
they
had
we're
going
to
have
like
four
months
to
transition
and
I
I'm
concerned
more
so
for
the
people
that
live
there
than
I
am
for.
What's
going
to
happen
to
my.
W
Hi,
my
name
is
Sarah
Rosen
I'm
at
1209,
South
Philippi,
Street
I'm,
a
neighbor
in
the
neighborhood,
where
this
proposal
has
been
submitted.
I
do
want
to
affirm
that
during
the
neighborhood
meeting
that
there
was
standing
room,
only
and
I
didn't
see
a
sign
up
sheet,
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
residents
did,
but
quite
a
few
people
were
there.
It
was
a
very
interactive
meeting
as
well.
W
I
do
have
questions
for
the
applicant
regarding
if
they
are
making
that
change
aware
to
new
residents
that
they're
signing
on
and
if
the
deposit
would
be
refunded
for
those
new
people
moving
in,
even
though
that
this
has
been
ongoing
for
years,
they're
still
signing
new
residents,
I
feel
like
that's
potentially
fraudulent
and
that
there
may
be
some
sort
of
like
legal
recourse
there
for
those
people
who
are
signing
on.
W
It
doesn't
seem
like
the
dinapoli's
statement
of
care
and
empathy
for
these
people
is
very
like
representative
in
their
marketing
material
on
their
website.
It
does
state
that,
like
change,
abuse
is
built
into
their
plan,
so
I
would
take
that
and
the
statement
of
the
applicant
with
a
grain
of
salt,
considering
that
that's
part
of
their
marketing
platform
that
they
consider
a
change
of
use
a
viable
option.
It
doesn't
really
speak
to
the
vulnerable
state
of
the
residents
and
I.
W
Don't
think
enough
has
been
said
about
the
fact
that
housing
that
accepts
Medicaid
is
not
as
abundant
as
the
applicant
has
inferred.
My
mom
who's
here
in
the
audience
is
a
licensed
social
worker
who
oftentimes
deals
with
this
trying
to
find
Medicaid
housing
that
accepts
Medicaid,
and
it's
it's
not
like
you
just
go
find
it.
That's
that's
a
misrepresentation
of
that
I
think.
Additionally,
more
should
be
said
about
the
stress
and
turmoil
that
comes
from
a
relocation
for
people
vulnerable
residents
such
as
the
elderly.
W
I
There's
Matt
Greenman
4470,
North,
Linda,
Vista,
Lane,
I
kind
of
want
to
touch
on
one
point:
I,
don't
think,
has
been
fully
articulated
when
somebody
goes
into
assisted
facility
to
qualify
Medicare
your
yourself
pay
for
the
first
year.
Some
facilities
are
two
years
so
at
that
point
all
of
their
finances
have
been
extinguished.
Whether.
I
That
they're
living
in
sell
their
house
whatever
belongings
once
they're
at
that
point
they
are
on,
they
are
eligible
for
Medicare.
So
all
of
these
other
facilities
that
have
Medicare
beds,
the
majority
of
them,
don't
take
new
tenants
until
after
that,
first
year
of
the
self
pay,
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
you
don't
see
a
lot
of
people
moving
very
often
because
they
can't
afford
to
start
over
on
that
Year's
worth
of
Medicaid
or
excuse
me
yours
worth
of
self-pay
before
they're
eligible
for
Medicaid,
again
and
I.
I
B
B
P
B
X
My
name
is
Michelle
Whipple
I
live
at
1907,
Gold
Dust
Road
in
Cascade
Idaho.
My
mother
is
a
tenant
of
Arbor
Village
and
she
was
relocated
there
after
her
prior
assisted
living
facility
closed
giving
her
a
no
notice,
no
assistance
to
move
no
means
to
move
her
things.
Luckily,
a
beautiful
person
from
Arbor
Village
reached
out
to
her
and
my
mom
was
able
to
move
into
a
new
forever
home
and
met
many
wonderful
people.
X
These
people
are
at
their
forever
home
and
the
this
developer
from
California
has
no
regard
for
their
mental
health,
physical
health,
Financial
Health,
what
their
families
are
going
through.
They
claim
to
be
upside
down.
Well,
that
sounds
like
a
management
issue
and
you
need
to
rework
your
business
and
commit
keep
your
obligations
to
these
people
who
are
relying
upon
you
don't
have
the
means
or
the
methods
to
pick
up
and
go
to
another
facility
that
doesn't
exist.
There
are
the
Medicaid
qualification
process
is
extremely
hard,
as
others
have
mentioned.
X
I
believe
that
this
developer
should
feel
very
shameful,
because
these
are
treasured
Treasure
Valley
residents
that
they
are
willing
to
throw
out
and
have
no
regard
for
them
or
their
families.
So
I
am
extremely
disappointed.
I've
worked
in
healthcare
for
30
years,
and
this
is
not
how
you
treat
people.
This
is
how
you
make
money
and
shame
on
you.
X
Dinapoli
California
I
would
like
to
see
this
be
tabled
and
them
hold
up
their
responsibilities
to
their
residents
that
they
have
taken
their
money
and
said
this
is
your
forever
home,
then
by
all
means
hold
up
your
responsibility.
Dinapoli
do
what
you
said
you
were
going
to
do
and
follow
through.
That
is
it.
Y
Katie
fight
1006,
North,
5th,
Street,
Boise
I
think
this
is
incredibly
sad
and
I'd
like
to
support
everything
that
the
Intermountain
Fair
Housing,
Council,
representative
Laurie
decare
said
this
seems
to
me
like
it
would
be
a
violation
of
the
Fair
Housing
Act
and
you've
heard
just
from
people
that
have
relatives
in
this
facility.
Y
How
heart-rending
this
is
and
that
you
know
how
I
believe
would
just
be
unconscionable
for
you
to
allow
this
company
DiNapoli
developer,
whoever
whatever
they
are
to
basically
have
these
people
turned
out
essentially
to
find
new
locations
to
live
out
the
very
last
days
of
their
lives
and
I.
Think
it's
particularly
unconscionable
that
many
of
them
that
may
have
pets
and
animals
that
are
helping
them
get
through
their
last
days
and
and
deal
with
their
illnesses
that
they
may
become
separated
from
them.
B
Up
next
Richard
Llewellyn,
thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me,
we
can
hello
great.
G
Thank
you,
Richard
Llewellyn,
9170,
Hill
Road.
The
decision
to
approve
this
application
is
an
error
specifically
because
it
clearly
contradicts
the
relevant
policies
of
the
comprehensive
plan
to
address
housing
and
thus
does
not
meet
the
PewDie
criteria
in
code,
for
example,
NAC
9.3
Housing
Programs
encourage
and
support
Housing
Programs
financed
by
other
levels
of
government
for
low
and
moderate
income
and
senior
citizens.
Certainly,
it's
contradicts
that
help
when
we
encourage
sets
programs
if
we
take
away
their
housing
in
AC,
9.4,
accessible
units
encourage
development
of
residential
units
that
are
accessible
to
persons
with
disabilities.
G
Most
of
these
people
are,
if
I
would
believe,
if
you
would
count
them.
We
heard
from
the
applicant
that
the
comp
plan
doesn't
really
apply.
That's
just
not
true.
It's
one
of
the
criteria
for
apud
there
are
currently
115
housing
units
at
the
application
site
and
the
applicant
wishes
to
demolish
those
and
build
77.
G
arithmetic
shows
this
result
in
a
negative
38
units.
This
contradicts
all
comprehensive
plan
policies
regarding
housing.
Of
course,
everyone
can
make
this
basic
subtraction.
So
why
is
the
city
claimed?
This
will
bring
needed
housing
to
Boise.
We
heard
that
these
rooms
for
the
elderly
were
counted
differently.
That
makes
a
little
sense
and
sounds
discriminatory.
I
believe
the
error
in
arithmetic
is
because
we
have
entirely
written
off
the
people
that
live
here.
G
This
in
economic
terms
is
part
of
the
use
value,
the
value
that
we
as
residents,
obtain
from
using
our
city
and
housing
as
they
exist
today.
On
the
other
hand,
what
economists
call
The
Exchange
value
that
value
developers
campaigned
by
buying
and
selling
and
changing
the
current
uses
is
the
only
value
that
has
entered
into
this
simple
sum:
that's
a
real
problem,
because
it
results
in
this
kind
of
basic
logic,
error
in
which
a
negative
value
is
treated
as
positive.
G
D
Z
Evening,
hello
hi,
my
name
is
Greg
Anderson
I
live
at
2549
East
Satterfield
in
Meridian,
and
some
of
my
thoughts
were
already
addressed,
so
I'll
kind
of
try
and
edit
it
as
possible,
but
I
want
to
kind
of
stick
to
my
script
as
I
can.
For
almost
a
year,
my
wife,
Corey
and
I
have
performed
musical
entertainment
at
Arbor
Village
once
a
month,
but,
more
importantly,
as
Anderson
Ministries,
we
conduct
church
services
there
twice
each
month,
as
is
usually
the
case
at
church
services.
Z
We
speak
with
those
in
the
congregation,
in
this
case
the
residents
there
at
Arbor
Village
before
and
after
the
service
and
pray
with
them
about
issues
in
their
lives.
For
several
months,
one
of
the
most
frequent
prayer
requests
has
been
regarding
the
future
of
their
home
there.
For
these
residents,
Arbor
Village
is
not
just
a
building,
it
is
their
Community
for
them,
the
other
residents
and
even
the
staff,
our
neighbors
and
family,
not
just
other
people
who
occupy
and
work
in
the
building.
Z
There's
a
saying
on
the
wall
there
that
reads
something
to
the
effect
of
remember:
the
residents
don't
live
where
we
work.
We
work
in
their
home,
Corey
and
I
have
seen
firsthand
how
the
staff,
the
day-to-day
staff
at
Arbor
Village,
truly,
do
know
the
residents
their
situations
and
their
struggles
and
how
they
exhibit
great
care
for
them
and
their
situations
and
struggles,
while
certainly
a
part
of
the
equation.
That
issue
here
tonight
is
not
just
a
decision
about
the
future
use
of
this
property.
Z
It
is
a
decision
that
will
impact
the
lives
of
dozens
of
elderly
people,
many
of
whom
have
limited
options
for
living
arrangements.
These
beautiful
people
have
lived
productive
lives
for
years,
contributing
to
society
in
general
and
specifically
to
the
cities
in
which
they
have
lived,
including
Boise
rezoning.
Z
This
property
will
require
them
to
leave
their
home
and
their
family,
however,
before
they
can
even
do
that,
they
must
find
another
residence
beside
the
one
that
they
would
thought
would
be
there
forever
home
at
Arbor
Village
for
the
elderly
and
particularly
for
those
in
an
assisted
living
situation.
This
search
is
not
as
simple
as
using
an
internet
search
tool.
They
have
specific
needs
that
must
be
met,
Beyond
just
shelter
granted
there
are
other
Senior
Communities
in
the
area.
As
was
shared
by
Mr
Seaman,
but
this
is
their
home.
Z
Adding
to
that
the
transportation
issues
that
have
been
discussed
make
this
quest
for
a
new
home
even
more
challenging,
while
I
appreciate
the
owner's
circumstances,
I
believe
a
larger
issue
is
at
stake.
As
a
society,
we
must
decide
whether
decisions
will
be
driven
primarily
or
even
solely
by
Financial
factors
or
if
we
will
take
a
stand
to
protect
the
most
vulnerable
in
our
society,
including
the
elderly,
strongly
encourage
you
to
do
the
latter
in
this
case
and
consider
voting
against
the
proposed
project
in
its
current
form.
B
B
Okay,
great
at
this
point,
I
know,
there's
a
couple
of
commission
members
that
have
a
few
follow-up
questions
for
some
of
the
folks
that
testified
tonight.
So,
unless
there's
an
objection
from
my
fellow
members
of
the
commission,
I'm
going
to
invoke
unanimous
consent
and
open
this
up
for
a
few
follow-up
questions
by
those
of
us
up
here
at
the
dias
okay,
I
believe
with
that
Mr
Danley
had
a
few
questions.
Is
that
right,
Mr.
E
Chairman,
if
I
can
call
up
Miss
decair,
it
is
unusual
that
we
ask
members
of
the
general
public
questions.
However,
given
your
position
and
obviously
being
an
industry
expert
on
this
and
having
the
authority
in
housing
within
the
region,
I
think
it's
important
that
your
voice
is
heard
with
additional
questions.
S
E
Identified
seven
particular
bullet
points
that
you
felt
you
being
your
organization,
not
just
you
that
the
tenant
assistant
package
Covenant
include.
E
Okay,
then,
that
makes
my
questions
difficult
to
ask,
because,
in
order
for
you
know,
your
bullet
points
in
your
letter
to
be
satisfied,
obviously
you'll
have
had
to
have
been
familiar
with
their
proposal,
which
you're
not
going
to
be
in
a
matter
of
seconds
I
guess
there
is
one
note
that
you
heard
this
evening
so
that
you
are
familiar,
and
it
is
also
a
note
in
your
the
very
first
bullet
which
you
you,
your
organization
requested
a
condition
be
that
an
extension
of
90
to
120
day
notice
be
provided.
E
You
heard
the
applicant
agree
publicly
on
record
to
the
120
day
number
that
satisfies
at
least
that
particular
bullet
I'm.
Assuming
can
you
give
me
a
little
bit
of
insight
as
to
where
that
number
came
from
yeah.
L
E
L
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
so.
I
think
in
this
instance
that
they
can
work
with
legal
aid
or
ifhc
or
any
organization
without
retaliation
which
is
prohibited
under
the
Fair
Housing
Act.
E
Okay
and
then
I
guess
my
last
question
just
given
the
circumstances
that
one
of
the
bullet
also
includes
so
financial
assistance
to
have
personal
items
protected
during
the
closure
and
transfer.
So
that's
basically
the
moving
costs
making
sure
okay
yeah.
L
So
you
know,
and
also
in
my
written
testimony
I
talked
about
the
tenant
relocation
package
Covenant.
That
was
the
first
ever
in
the
city
as
far
as
we
know
for.
V
L
Ride
and
Bob
Place
tenants,
so
they
received
four
thousand
dollars
for
from
a
one
bedroom
and
fifty
five
hundred
if
they
were
leaving
a
two-bedroom
apartment.
So
that
you
know
is
a
good
example
of
the
kind
of
thing
that
we're
suggesting.
B
B
M
Mr
chair
commissioners,
as
you
know,
a
cup
criteria
focuses
on
the
impacts
to
the
remaining
adjoining
property
in
the
neighborhood.
There
is
a
condition
that
must
be
in
compliance
with
a
comprehensive
plan.
We've
already
found
once
before
that
it
is
in
compliance,
the
comprehensive
plan
and,
as
you
know,
it
is
a
guidance
document
and
it
also
supports
an
apartment
use
in
this
area
as
an
Adaptive,
reuse
and
field
development
near
an
activity
center.
M
There's
been
some
discussion
in
the
past
and
just
tonight
about
the
ridenbaugh
Place
Apartments
I
would
like
to
address
that.
We
did
look
up
the
president
of
that
case.
It's
a
different
type
of
entitlement.
It's
a
rezone
with
the
development
agreement
and
probably
the
biggest
difference
is
that
was
a
voluntary
agreement
with
the
developer.
It
was
not
required
as
a
condition.
In
this
case
we
have
a
property
owner
who
merely
wants
to
convert
the
use
of
this
building
to
an
apartment.
M
Additionally,
as
you've
heard,
there's
already
a
financial
burden
in
running
this
property,
and
it
would
be
an
undue
financial
burden
on
my
client
to
need
to
pay
for
relocation.
Expenses
that
aren't
related
to
the
use
of
the
property
should
say
the
neighboring
properties
I'll
go
ahead
and
have
Michael
address
the
rest.
Thank.
N
N
You
know,
I've
read
a
news
report
last
year
that
40
of
all
Assisted
Living
providers
are
operating
at
a
loss
and
I
think
the
fair
housing's
point
of
showing
all
the
communities
closing
only
emphasizes
that
that
we're
all
struggling,
there's
too
many
communities
and
they're
closing
for
a
reason
on
the
availability,
myself
and
one
other
person
from
our
team
literally
closed
their
email
for
a
day
and
and
called
Community
after
Community
after
community
in
the
area
we
talk
to
marketers,
we
talk
to
executive
directors,
we
asked
we
explained
exactly
what
we're
doing
and
why.
N
N
You
know
I,
think
the
the
senior
housing
industry
has
a
lot
of
challenges.
I
think
the
Medicaid
Program
has
a
lot
of
challenges.
We're
not
going
to
solve
either
one
of
those
tonight
and
you
know.
Unfortunately,
there
is
a
financial
reality
to
this.
N
It's
a
terrible
unfortunate
situation,
but
the
reality
is
that
for
business
to
be
sustainable,
Revenue
has
to
cover
costs
and
when
you
have
people
paying
a
thousand
dollars
or
something
that
costs
for
somebody
has
to
cover
that
we've
done
so
to
the
tune
of
over
a
million
and
a
half
dollars.
So
far,
we've
never
converted
a
senior
housing
community
before
we've
never
closed
the
senior
housing
community,
for
we
don't
want
to
be
doing
this,
but
we're
not
some
evil.
California
developer
we're
a
family-owned
company.
N
We
don't
have
an
endless
bucket
of
money
and
so
at
some
point
that
money
has
to
come
from
somewhere,
because
we
don't
have
an
endless
supply
and
we
think
it
would
be
unfair
to
ask
other
residents
to
cover
the
shortfall.
I
can't
go
to
Bob
in
unit
105
and
say
you
have
to
pay
an
extra
thousand
dollars
because
Jill
and
Unit
102
can't
you
know
and
again
it's
an
unfortunate
situation,
but
it's
I
think
it
goes
beyond
us.
It's
an
industry
in
a
healthcare,
and
you
know
that's
something
that
we
just
can't
solve.
B
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
Okay,
at
this
point,
we'll
go
ahead
and
bring
this
item
back
before
the
commission
to
render
a
decision.
Typically,
we
start
out
with
a
motion
to
begin
our
deliberations.
I.
Think
in
this
case,
perhaps
maybe
a
little
bit
of
discussion
to
kick
us
off
before
we
get
to
a
motion
might
be
the
best
course
of
action.
So
I
have
a
feeling
we
might
have
a
few
additional
conditions
that
we're
considering
so
I
think
to
keep
the
record
clean,
I.
B
C
E
Was
kind
of
funny,
no
all
right
for
discussion
purposes
to
me,
I
think,
maybe
starting
with
the
Pud
element
and
then
maybe
looking
at
the
potential
of
mitigation
it
being
the
conditional
use
component.
E
So
in
the
staff
report
and
as
we
all
are
familiar,
there
are
in
fact
the
conditions
that
need
to
be
met
in
order
to
satisfy
a
planned
unit,
development
application,
the
location
is
compatible
to
other
uses
in
the
general
neighborhood,
we're
going
from
essentially
residential
to
residential
and
everything
around
it
is
residential
I.
Don't
think
anybody
has
any
disputes
on
that.
The
proposal
will
not
Place
undue
burden
on
transportation
and
other
public
facilities
in
the
vicinity.
E
I,
don't
think
I
heard
anything
about
that
that
was
contentious
and
then
you
get
into
the
last
few.
The
proposed
use
it
complies
with
all
conditions
will
not
adversely
affect
other
property
of
the
vicinity.
Well,
again,
residential
residential
I.
Don't
think
we
heard
much
in
the
way
of
that,
and
then
you
get
to
the
final
one
really,
which
is
the
the
comprehensive
plan
and
for
my
vantage
point,
I
think,
there's
been
some
points
made
that
have
some
accuracy
with
respect
to
how
this
might
not
fit
with
a
comprehensive
plan.
E
But
I
also
know
that
our
staff
has
cited
many
things
that
demonstrate
that
it
does
comply
with
our
comprehensive
plan.
This
is
the
danger
of
having
a
350
page,
comprehensive
plan
with
lots
of
goals
right
so
just
to
start
discussion
off
anyway,
just
beginning,
at
least
for
the
first
five
things
with
a
PUD.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Mr
Danley,
I'll,
sound
off
I
I
agree
with
your
your
summary
there,
as
well
and
I'm
on
the
record
with
the
previous
application,
and
we
heard
this
previously
that
you
know
the
land
use
component
of
this
I.
Think
there's
not
any
question
really
that
this
is
an
appropriate
use
for
that
particular
site.
So
I
agree
as
well
that
this
is
definitely
more
of
the
human
side
of
things
at
this
point
and
how
we
address
that
piece.
J
I,
don't
know
how
much
weight
we
want
to
give
this,
but
I
do
want
to
say
the
comprehensive
plan
it
does
allow
for,
like
NAC,
9.1
I
think
we
had
public
comment
on
this
tonight,
but
it
encourages
an
adequate
supply
of
safe
sanitary
housing.
It
costs
appropriate
to
the
varied
Financial
capabilities
to
City
residents
and
I
know
that
the
application
applicant,
when
they
were
up
here
discussing
the
comprehensive
plan
that
it's
not
I
mean
we
maybe
shouldn't
give
it
too
much
weight,
but
at
the
same
time
we
are
dealing
with
residents.
J
This
is
a
facility,
I
mean
so
I,
don't
think
it's
just
a
plain
and
simple
cup,
where
we're
out
here
deciding
on
just
those
elements:
I
think
that
there's
more
into
it
and
I
think
that
we
can
consider
the
comprehensive
plan,
no
matter
how
numerous
it
is,
because
it
does
address
it
and
we
are
dealing
with
people
here
and
so
there
is
that
little
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
address
it,
maybe
with
some
conditions
that
would
allow
you
know
the
residents
to
securely
find
a
relocation
and
and
I
think
that's
why
we're
here
so
putting
that
out
there.
B
O
I
think
the
only
piece
of
item
number
four
that
stuck
with
me
is,
and
then
this
is
mainly
dealing
with
the
proposed.
The
wording
is
the
proposed
use,
but
an
impact
that
I
can
see
is
what,
if
the
proposed
use
displaces
the
previous
use,
and
how
do
we
mitigate
that
I
mean
that
could
actually
impact
other
property
of
the
vicinity.
It
impacts
other
facilities
and
impacts
parking,
the
facilities
that
impacts
the
neighborhood
in
general,
too.
O
It
also
impacts
any
amenities,
and
things
like
that
that
the
residents
were
using
so
I
think
well,
the
exact
wording
is
the
proposed
use,
it
is
displacing
a
current
use
and
that
does
impact
the
property
of
the
vicinity,
and
so
part
of
that
to
me
is
figuring
out
how
to
mitigate
that
impact
and
so
kind
of
where
I
was
getting
at.
For
the
map
of
the
other
facilities
is.
O
How
far
does
that
population
spread
through
the
city
right
and
so,
if
we're
spreading
them
throughout
the
city
and
that's
increasing
driving
potentially,
and
so
what
have
we
mitigated
by
increasing
people
in
this
Center?
When
now
this
nearly
hundred
people
are
now
driving
more
have
we
mitigated
anything
and
that's
still
an
impact
to
the
city
and
I.
Don't
know
I,
don't
have
a
great
answer
to
that,
it's
hard
to
say
without
a
map
of
these
different
locations
and
what
options
they
have
available
and
things
like
that.
P
K
I
guess
I
will
just
add
to
this
part
of
the
discussion
that
I
definitely
can
support
this
beauty,
but
I
also
think
we
absolutely
have
to
be
doing
more
for
these
folks.
I
think
that
city
council
kicked
it
back
to
us.
For
that
reason,
exactly
and
to
be
frank,
the
the
transition
packet
that
we
received
in
our
late
correspondence
thought
insulting.
K
It's
completely
vague
and
non-specific
I
mean
their
checklist,
includes
things
like
visit
potential
residences
and
I
understand
in
what
we've
heard
tonight
has
been
contradictory
to
the
packet
we
heard
tonight
that
they
would
provide
transportation.
However,
in
the
packet
it
says,
quote
that
Transportation
the
responsibility
of
Transportation
varies
I'm,
just
not
seeing
anything
specific
at
all.
For
these
folks
to
grab
onto
and
I
think,
we've
got
to
do
better.
B
Certainly
I,
wouldn't
I,
wouldn't
disagree.
I
feel
the
same
way.
There
was
almost
purposely
vague,
and
maybe
there
was
maybe
that
was
for
a
reason
to
give
some
flexibility,
but
I
don't
disagree
with
you,
commissioner,
stead
that
I
think
that
there
are
probably
you
know,
one
or
two
or
three
conditions
that
we
could
probably
add
to
this.
To
give
some
assurances
to
those
residences
that
that
transition
plan
will
we'll
have
some
meat,
and
you
know
some
verifiable
results
to
help
the
the
residents
find
new
housing.
B
O
I
think
on
the
the
transition
plan
aspect
of
it,
it's
a
little
bit
hard
to
stomach
that
it
was
only
available
in
the
late
correspondence.
So
I
don't
know
how
many
of
these
residents
have
actually
had
a
chance
to
review.
I
didn't
hear
a
lot
of
comment.
Public
comment
about
it,
which
some
feedback
about
its
feasibility
would
be
really
nice
in
terms
of
public
comment
too
Mr
chair,
sorry,.
K
B
Okay,
maybe
now
at
the
end,
but
no
okay,
all
right
what
I
think
we're
I
think
we're
generally
all
on
the
same
page
here
that
we
we
sort
of
agree
with
the
Pud
aspect
of
this
project
again,
but
there
is
obviously
some
concerns
about
the
relocation
package
and
that
perhaps
we
might
want
to
entertain
some
additional
conditions
to
give
that
some
more
some
more
detail,
right,
I
think
that
we
can
hold
the
ownership
too
in
that
in
that
process,
does
someone
want
to
take
us
stab
of
motion
here
with
the
conditioner
too?
E
Yeah
commissioner
Stanley
I'm
prepared
to
make
a
motion,
but
I
think
I
want
to
make
sure
just
to
get
a
little
bit
of
the
reasoning
statement
on
record
in
discussion,
specifically
as
it
relates
to
Idaho
law,
the
local
land
use
planning
act
which
governs
what
we
do
and
including
the
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
our
code
and
our
comp
plan
and
everything
else,
specifically
as
it
relates
to
conditional
use
permits
and
what
we
have
the
authority
to
do
as
a
governing
body,
a
decision-making
body
specifically
on
on
conditional
use
permits.
We
are
the
decider
on
that.
E
This
one's
interesting
requiring
more
restrictive
standards
than
those
generally
required
in
an
ordinance
that
to
me,
gets
at
the
the
prospect
of
this
tenant
agreement
and
relocation
package
and
all
the
kind
of
stuff
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
then
ultimately
there's
another
one,
but
that's
not
germane
to
this
particular
instance.
So
to
me,
we
have
the
lawful
authority
to
add
conditions
that
go
beyond
our
code
and
I
think
are
prudent
in
this
in
this
particular
application.
E
P
Just
a
quick
point
of
point
of
order:
James
Smith,
Deputy,
City
attorney,
I,
I'm,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
and
again
I,
don't
want
to
do
violence
to
the
deliberations
here
or
you
know
or
or
the
motion
in
terms
of
what
it
will
be
because
it
hasn't
been
said,
but
as
far
as
a
statement
of
law
of
what
of
what
Lupa
would
allow.
P
I
would
just
caution
the
commission
not
to
not
to
read
into
state
law
of
the
the
authority
to
to
impose
conditions
that
that
the
city
code
would
would
otherwise
limit
or
or
that
wouldn't
otherwise
be
justified
through
what
our
ordinance
requires.
So
I'll
leave
it
there.
Okay,
thank
you.
James.
E
Mr
daily,
okay,
let
me
get
my
p's
and
q's
straight.
E
Chairman
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
that
item
number
three
PUD
22-3
a
conditional
use
permit
request
located
at
1093,
South
Hilton
Street,
the
approved
with
the
terms
in
the
conditions
in
the
staff
Report
with
the
following
additional
conditions,
one
that
the
applicant
gives
the
existing
tenants
one
year
to
find
suitable
and
comparable
housing
2
that
upon
identification
of
new
housing
for
each
existing
tenant.
E
The
applicant
will
pay
for
relocation
expenses
consistent
with
the
cost
schedule
of
the
uniform
relocation
acts
act
which
I
believe
we
can
lean
on
and
three
that
the
applicant
will
be
responsible
for
the
difference
in
monthly
rent.
If
the
new
household
paid
rent
is
higher
than
the
current
household
paid
rent
for
a
period
of
three
years
or
provide
a
lump
sum
payment
to
each
tenant
consistent
with
the
uniform
relocation,
Act.
K
B
Okay,
great
thank
you.
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
by
commissioner
Danley
with
a
second
by
commissioner
stead
with
some
additional
conditions.
I
was
taking
my
notes
here.
I'll
be
trying
to
summarize
fish
number.
One
added
was
a
one
year
time
frame
to
find
new
housing
condition.
Number
two
was
the
applicant
would
assist,
provide
relocation,
cost
expenses
and
that
condition
number
three
is
the
applicant
is
responsible
for
the
rent
difference
at
the
new
facility
for
a
period
of
three
years.
B
E
This
is
incredibly
difficult
right
and
we
all
know
this.
This
is
the
second
go-around
and
it's
it's
incredibly
painful
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
say
it's
hard,
but
we
have
to
make
a
decision
and,
on
the
one
hand,
I
think
we're
trying
to
thread
this
needle
because
the
owner
of
the
property
frankly
could
close
the
doors
tomorrow.
They
have
the
legal
right
to
do
that
and
if
they
did
There's
fewer
conditions
in
that
situation
than
what
we're
doing
here
and
yet
so
we're
I
think
trying
our
best
to
mitigate
and
I.
E
Think
that's
the
key
with
this
conditional
use
permits,
allow
this
body
to
make
and
add
conditions
that
mitigate
against
any
any
difficulties,
challenges
Etc
that
come
along
with
the
permit.
In
this
case
the
permit
is
to
change
the
type
of
development
still
maintaining
residential,
but
everybody
knows
the
details
I'll.
My
last
thing
is
this:
this
is
a
poor
analogy:
I
I
recognize
I
apologize
but
racking
my
brain
I
keep
thinking
about
other
applications
and
I
think
if
I
own
a
gas
station
and
I
wanted
to
turn
it
into
a
cafe.
E
You
know
what
I
got
to
do
before
I
do
that
I
got
to
take
the
all
of
the
tanks
out
of
the
ground.
First,
it's
mitigation.
It's
because
I
have
to
do
the
responsible
thing
and
in
other
Industries
mining
in
other
Industries.
You
have
to
do
something
before
you
can
move
forward
to
me.
I
see
that
this
in
this
particular
application.
In
this
case,
it's
a
human.
K
Chair
Mr
stead
I
do
think
that
in
our
deliberation
we
addressed
much
of
what
what
needed
to
be
said,
but
for
my
I
guess
from
my
personal
opinion,
there
are
no
winners
tonight.
This
has
been
really
difficult.
K
It
was
difficult
the
first
time,
as
commissioner
Danley
said,
I'm
we're
you
know
addressing
and
caring
for
some
of
our
most
vulnerable
population,
and
you
know
we
certainly
can't
require
anybody
to
run
a
failing
business,
however,
implying
that
these
folks
move
for
a
boyfriend
or
better
food
is
condescending
and
they
are
really
fighting
for
their
lives,
and
even
if
it's
not
your
truth,
it
is
their
truth
and
a
little
compassion
can
go
a
long
way
and
I
want
to
fight
for
these
residents
in
a
way
that
I
hope
somebody
would
fight
for
me
someday
when
I
need
it.
B
B
Yeah
I'll
make
a
second
and
third
in
the
comments
by
commissioner
Danley,
commissioner
Stead
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion.
You
know
fully
agree
that
this
is
I
mean
difficult
for
everyone
and
I
hope
that
I
believe
that
these
conditions
will
give
some
assurances
to
the
residences
and
into
the
applicant.
You
know
the
information
you
provided
us
tonight
would
lead
us
to
believe
that
you
don't
need
a
year
to
find
new
residences
for
these
these
folks.
B
So
hopefully
that's
not
an
issue,
then
at
that
point
and
then
adding
I
think
the
relocation
cost
is
a
is
a
fair
Fair
approach
to
make
sure
these
folks
find
new
homes
that
are
suitable
in
comparable
to
what
they
have
now
so
again,
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion
and
unless
there's
any
other
discussion
or
comments,
I
think
I'll
just
quickly
check
in
with
staff
and
make
sure
that
we're
good
with
the
additional
conditions,
and
we
have
those
clearly
stated
on
the
record-
we're
okay
to
proceed.
AA
AA
Right
I
will
say
my
piece
here
really
quick:
okay,
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
motion
and
does
not
because
of
everyone's
Valiant
effort,
but
I
think
we
have
enough
information
in
our
packet
I'm,
referring
specifically
to
Pages
166
and
167,
where
it
outlines
various
places
in
the
comprehensive
plan
where
this
doesn't
make
any
sense,
and
so
I'm
going
to
lean
on
that
in
my
no
vote.
So
the
obligatory
statement
here,
I
guess,
would
be.
AA
You
know,
I
find
this
completely
opposed
to
PDP
1.1
NAC,
2.2,
CC,
1.1,
GDP,
Dash,
n.3
and
cb-c
1.1,
so
I
think
that's
enough
justification
to
justify
no
vote
and
just
a
couple
other
points.
If
I,
might
you
know
that
I
appreciate
the
effort
to
condition
this
and
I?
Think
that's
absolutely
the
right
thing
to
do
with
what
we're
given
here,
but
I
mean
the
applicant's
already
demonstrated
that
it
does
not
have
the
capacity
to
execute
this
plan.
AA
I
mean
this
is
this
is
an
applicant
who
struggled
with
with
basic
messaging
and
notification
and
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
I
just
that
leads
me
to
believe
that
you
know
they
don't
have
that
capacity
to
execute
this
so
condition
this
as
we
might
I
I,
don't
see
this
coming
to
fruition.
AA
I
do
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out.
Mr
Hutchison.
Is
it
correct?
I
mean
you,
you
made
the
obvious
point
right
that
we
just
made
a
guy
and
his
wife
build
a
sidewalk
to
Nowhere
on.
You
know
a
parcel,
that's
not
even
you
know,
adjacent
to
the
two
new
Parcels
created
and
then
I'm
being
asked
to
bail
out
a
private
Equity
Firm
who's
Overexposed
in
a
particular
asset
class.
AA
That
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me
and
then,
lastly,
as
to
Deputy
City
attorney
Smith's
point
about
what
is
in
our
code
and
what
isn't
in
our
code
and
I
really
want
to
get
this
out
there
that
our
city
code
is
supposed
to
be
a
reflection
of
our
morals
and
ethics,
and
this
is
immoral
and
unethical
and
it
needs
to
be
rectified.
AA
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
sitting
up
here
ever
want
to
see
another
one
of
these
applications
before
us
again,
and
it's
incumbent
upon
elected
leadership
and
City
Planning
staff
and
the
city
attorney's
office,
to
figure
out
a
way
that
we
don't
have
to
see
these
things
again.
So,
whether
it
is
you
know,
stricter
licensing
requirements,
essentially
making
the
city
a
JV
partner
with
these
kind
of
things,
we
have
to
start
thinking
about
this
kind
of
infrastructure
as
our
infrastructure,
City
infrastructure,
not
economic
tools,
these
PES.
They
do
this
because
they
want
the
underlying
land.
AA
They
don't
care
about
the
business,
it's
the
same
way
with
shopping
centers
and
all
that
other
stuff.
We
all
understand
the
real
estate
game,
but
we
have
the
ability
to
control
this,
whether
it's
you
know
passing
a
no
net
loss,
housing
policy
or
just
an
outright
ban
on
this
or
you
know,
being
proactive
and
going
out
to
the
owners
of
these
kinds
of
facilities.
We
know
they're
failing,
let's
get
a
plan
together,
I
mean
we
don't
have
to
sit
here
like
we
can't
control
this
situation.
L
B
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner
Blanchard.
B
Okay,
Circle
back
again,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
PUD
22.
3,
with
some
additional
conditions.
As
previously
stated,
a
motion
to
approve
was
by
commissioner
Danley
with
a
second
by
commissioner
stead
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
please.
Instead.
AA
C
B
B
Our
last
item
tonight
new
business
is
cup
22-65,
Suntree,
Language,
Academy,
LLC
project
address
is
1423
South,
Tyrell
Lane
modification
to
a
conditional
use
permit
to
include
a
child
care
facility
serving
up
to
48
children
with
an
existing
private
commercial
school
on
0.13
acres
in
an
LOD
Zone.
First
reading
from
staff
and
Jesse
Lyle
again
tonight.
L
Good
evening,
Mr,
chair
and
Commissioners
the
item
for
you
cup
2265
a
conditional
use
modification
to
include
a
child
care
facility
serving
up
to
48
children
with
an
existing
private
commercial
School.
The
subject
property
is
located
at
1423
Tara
Lane
in
an
LOD
Zone
on
0.13
Acres
in
December
2021,
the
applicant
obtained
a
conditional
use
permit
to
operate
the
private
commercial
school
at
the
subject:
property
for
an
after-school
language,
immersion
program
with
evening
classes
for
adults.
L
P
L
To
avoid
adding
to
the
traffic
congestion
associated
with
the
school
at
the
intersection
of
Park
Center
in
mallard,
the
business
park
has
a
108
shared
sparking
spaces,
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
utilize
the
spaces
directly
in
front
of
their
building
for
drop
off
and
picked
up
points
with
employee
parking
and
other
areas
of
the
lot.
The
proposed
preschool
area
has
enough
room
for
the
48
students
internally,
but
does
not
have
Associated
outdoor
space
on
site.
L
Many
public
comments
are
received
mostly
in
support
of
the
expansion,
as
the
service
is
needed
throughout
the
Treasure.
Valley
supporters
noted
that
the
applicant's
professional
conduct
and
successful
successful
model
downtown,
as
well
as
at
the
site
comments
received
in
opposition,
learn
from
other
businesses
in
the
area,
citing
traffic
concerns
and
a
lack
of
parking
as
well
as
incompatibility.
V
V
And
so
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
telling
you
a
little
bit
about
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
You
know
our
goal
is
really
not
to
change
much
about
what
we're
doing
it's,
it's
really
to
expand
the
minimum
age
that
we
serve
from
five
down
to
three
years
old,
and
so
in
doing
that,
you
know
we'll
need
to
raise
the
number
of
hours
that
were
that
were
available
during
the
day,
because
people
can't
drop
off
a
three-year-old.
Just
in
the
afternoon.
V
We
plan
to
continue
to
maintain
a
low
impact
for
our
neighbors
and
provide
high
quality
language
learning
opportunities
for
for
all
ages
of
students.
The
ways
that
we're
going
to
do
these
are
really
we're
going
to
use
the
lessons
that
we
learned
in
our
existing
use
here
at
Century,
as
well
as
in
my
other
program
at
Le,
Soleil
French
school
downtown.
V
So
this
is
providing
learning
without
any
outdoor
nuisance
to
our
neighbors.
Enforcing
our
policies
on
parking
through
our
family
handbook,
which
is
binding
for
families
in
our
program
and
staggering
our
hours
to
miss
the
peak
congestion
times
like
Jesse
mentioned
I,
want
to
just
kind
of
directly
address
some
of
the
concerns
that
we
saw
in
the
letter
from
a
neighbor
here.
V
So
you
know
in
terms
of
discussion,
we
went
to
extra
lengths
really
to
hear
from
all
of
our
neighbors
prior
to
submittal.
Here
you
know
we
used
the
labels
provided
by
the
city,
sent
them
sent
out
our
notification
letters
two
weeks
in
advance.
It's
only
required
to
send
them
out
10
days
in
advance.
V
We
also
sent
an
email
to
the
manager
of
the
business
Owners.
Association
of
that
is
owns
the
property
around
ours
and
we
put
an
outline
of
our
application
in
that
email
and
notified
them
of
the
upcoming
neighborhood
meeting.
V
We
also
posted
site
notification
early
two
weeks
before
or
a
week
before,
the
the
deadline
here,
so
we've
been
really
tried
to
have
a
conversation
with
with
neighbors
if
they
wanted
to
have
a
conversation
with
us
and
just
assumed
that
nobody
cared
because
it
wasn't
a
big
change
to
what
we
are
currently
doing.
V
This
is
these
should
be
in
your
packets,
I
think,
but
just
showing
the
postmark
of
November
1st
and
a
copy
of
the
email
that
we
sent
to
the
business
Owners
Association
in
terms
of
nuisance
and
safety,
we're
going
to
continue
not
to
use
any
of
the
common
outdoor
areas
or
outdoor
spaces
on
site
for
activities
for
our
students.
V
Our
maximum
occupancy
level
is
not
going
to
rise
at
all,
so
we're
we're
not
going
to
be
adding
to
parking
or
adding
to
the
number
of
people
that
are
allowed
to
be
in
our
building,
and
they
also
noted
in
terms
of
safety
of
the
nearby
Creek,
which
is
in
the
excuse
me,
which
is
in
the
business
Park's
common
area
that
is
off
of
our
own
property.
V
V
V
Just
for
reference
photo
of
the
creek
side
of
the
building,
showing
that
there
are
no
no
entries
or
exits
and
then
the
one
emergency
exit
that
we
have
on
the
south
has
a
burn
wall.
The
door
has
an
alarm
and
there
is
no
access
for
preschoolers
to
that
side
of
the
building
either
and
just
as
clarification,
our
property
line
ends
at
our
building.
The
only
water
that
is
actually
on
the
property
is
discussed
in
code
or
in
state
law
in
terms
of
parking
and
congestion.
V
We've
really
carefully
designed
the
hours
that
we
propose
to
use
for
preschool
so
as
not
to
add
the
congestion
from
Sage
International
School,
which
is
right
next
door.
V
We
really
don't
want
to
coincide
with
them,
because
we
share
all
of
our
neighbors
frustration
with
the
the
amount
of
cars
and
and
congestion
that
we
see
there
as
they
listed
in
their
letter
on
the
congestion
from
sages,
7
30
to
8-ish,
and
they
say
about
2
30
to
4.
It's
more.
It's
closer
to
about
three
to
four,
but
current
after
school
hours.
V
V
We
can
easily
police
any
potential
misuse
of
parking
a
lot
more
effectively
than
Sage
International
School
does
because
the
parking
lot
that
we
face
is
behind
them,
and
so
we
can
enforce
our
binding
handbook
policies
on
our
own
families,
but
also
just
last
week.
I
have
an
example
of
enforcing
that
with
a
sage
family
as
well,
because
we
care
about
having
the
parking
available,
so
existing
parked
parking
signage
will
remain
and
we
will
enforce
our
policies
with
our
family
and
students.
V
Similarly,
to
our
sister
program,
Alissa,
lay
and
based
on
waitlisted
families.
We
also
expect
20
to
30
of
our
students
to
be
siblings,
who
arrive
into
park
together,
which
again
Lower
impact
on
on
parking
and
congestion
have
just
a
couple
of
short
videos
here
that
kind
of
show
at
different
times
the
open
this
of
the
parking
lot,
and
so
this
is
9
A.M,
which
would
be
kind
of
peak
drop-off
time.
That's
our
building
there.
V
Here's
at
the
peak
congestion
time,
which
is
about
3
30
on
Wednesday,
that
was
our
neighbor
in
front
of
our
neighbors
building,
and
then
this
is
in
front
of
our
building
in
the
shared
parking
lot
still
plenty
of
spaces
available,
and
then
this
is
an
hour
later,
with
everything
cleared
up,
which
would
be
more
around
our
pickup
time
for
for
the
preschool
use
again
during
preschool
pickup
time
shows
that
there's
really
very
little
use
of
of
the
parking
lot
and
of
the
nearby
Road
at
this
time
of
day
and
lots
of
videos.
V
Sorry
final,
one
at
around
our
closing
time,
which
is
when
our
after
school
kids
are
get
picked
up,
and
then
this
is
just
an
excerpt
from
our
family
handbook.
I
put
a
little
arrow
here,
pointing
out
the
we
monitor
the
parking
lot
and
that
a
family
may
be
excluded
from
the
program
for
failing
to
follow
any
of
the
procedures
that
we
listed,
which
includes
limiting
time
in
the
building
during
our
peak
times
to
five
to
ten
minutes
and
then
in
terms
of
compatibility
with
our
neighbors
in
the
same
Park.
V
V
We
know
that
their
use
doesn't
cause
any
nuisance
or
unreasonable
annoyance
and
we
don't
think
ours
does
either
we've
planned
very
carefully
and
we
really
want
to
provide
a
safe,
productive,
educational
experience,
and
we
think
that
we
have
a
good
plan
to
do
so.
So
thank
you.
V
B
C
W
O
My
question
was
so:
there's
pictures
in
our
packet
about
or
showing
trash
receptacles,
not
in
a
trash
enclosure.
It's
just
kind
of
in
a
parking
space
for
applications
like
this,
and
developments
like
this
I
know,
that's
probably
not
compliant
with
development
code.
Is
there
when
you
see
things
when
you
come
across
things
like
that?
Is
there
a
requirement
to
remedy
that
I
mean
I,
think
that
could
probably
mitigate
some
of
the
issues
they're
having.
L
Mr
chair
commissioner
Moore,
so
that
was
not
something,
and
so
you
know
you
would
assume
that
most
people
would
use
those,
and
it
sounds
like
the
applicant
could
probably
speak
to
that
a
little
more
as
well.
No.
B
AC
Good
evening
Mr
chairman
members
of
the
commission,
Cindy
Montana
718
East
McKinley
Street.
My
son
has
attended
LaSalle
since
its
conception
and
I'm
here
tonight
in
wholehearted
support
and
ask
for
your
approval
of
the
cup
application
as
a
multilingual
family.
AC
Our
linguistic
cultural
needs
have
been
reinforcement
and
expanded
upon
Atlas
LA
and
our
sun
will
continue
at
centuries
after
school
program
in
the
fall
years
ago,
when
the
Soleil
applied
for
their
cup
I
testified,
and
there
were
concerns
from
La
Soleil's
neighbors
of
traffic
impacts
of
parking
at
pickup,
pickup
and
drop-off
times,
and
from
our
nearly
four
years
of
experience
at
Le,
Soleil
I'd
like
to
share
that
lisalay,
drop-offs
and
Pickups
operate
like
a
machine
and
honestly
it's
something
that
should
be
studied
for
daycare
and
child
care
programs
across
the
city,
because
it
is
so
incredibly
efficient.
AC
First
of
all,
parents
at
LaSalle
are
not
parking
there.
At
all
hours
of
the
day
and
being
downtown,
you
kind
of
have
to
be
efficient
and
I
feel
like
at
Suntree.
As
you
saw.
There
is
adequate
parking
I
feel
like
it
would
be
even
more
efficient
because
you
don't
have
to
parallel
park
and
get
your
kid
in
and
out
of
a
car
seat
on
an
open
road
downtown.
AC
So
not
only
that,
but
having
a
time
frame
for
pickup
and
drop-off
makes
it
so
much
easier.
It's
not
all
it'll
break
up
the
congestion
a
little
bit,
but
that
being
said
in
the
almost
four
years
at
La,
Soleil
I
have
never
once
had
to
do
a
lap
in
the
car
around
the
block.
There's
always
parking
either
on
the
street
or
in
Los
Oles
parking
lot,
and
it's
pretty
Flawless.
AC
Let's
see
what
else?
Oh
and
our
family
handbook,
as
Justin
mentioned,
our
family
handbook
is
a
binding
contract
between
not
only
the
families
but
including
the
children,
and
our
handbook
is
something
that
is
constantly
being
updated.
Well,
not
constantly,
but
it's
being
updated
as
it's
kind
of
a
living
and
reading
document.
So
we
are
constantly
being
refreshed
reminded,
and
enforcement
of
that
is
very,
very
strong.
AC
The
goal
at
La,
Soleil
and
Suntree
is
really
to
help
guide
children
in
becoming
participating,
autonomous
citizens
of
our
community,
and
it
is,
it
becomes
so
much
an
integral
part
of
the
community
that
we
share
at
lisalay
and
I'm
sure
that
in
your
pockets,
all
the
letters
from
the
families
you
read,
you
can
really
feel
that
my
son
had
a
birthday
party
last
September
and
we
invited
every
single
child
in
the
preschool
class
and
every
single
parent
and
every
single
teacher,
and
they
all
came
and
that's
really
the
kind
of
community
that
we
are
and
I
think
we're
going
to
see
that
expand
upon
Suntree,
given
that
was
solely's
waitlist
at
one
point
was
six
years
long,
there's
there's
a
desire
to
be
part
of
the
community
and
not
only
a
desire,
But
A
desperate
need.
AC
So
thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
B
AD
AD
AD
B
AD
Did
I
did
I
is
that
my
first
one,
oh.
AD
I
mean
it's
not
moving
again,
you
don't
have
to
point
there
you
go
there.
You
go
okay,
all
right
all
right.
My
name
is
Howard
miladoff
I
work
at
1447,
South
Terrell,
which
is
next
door
to
the
language
school
I'm
gonna
go
through
a
few
slides,
but
I've
got
a
lot
of
pictures.
It
seems
to
contradict
what
you've
been
shown.
AD
This
commercial
school
was
has
been
in
operation
about
three
to
four
months,
and
now
they
want
to
change
the
cup.
They
want
to
change
what
they
represented
to
you,
but
they
represent
it
to
us.
They
want
to
put
80
kids
in
there,
including
48
three
to
five
year
olds.
AD
We
agreed
initially
with
these
conditions.
The
hours
of
operation
would
not
conflict
because
it
was
totally
different,
only
a
limited
number
of
students
and
they
had
to
ensure
Ingress
in
egress
no
activities
in
common
areas.
One
school
bus,
they're
in
violation
of
those
already.
AD
AD
They
they
don't
have
any
more
right
than
anybody
else.
The
most
important
thing
is
the
adverse
impact
they
don't
talk
about.
The
number
of
employees
on
when
they're
going
to
show
up
if
they're
going
to
be
open
at
8
30
people
are
going
to
get
there
before
then
and
there's
huge
impacts
with
that.
AD
You
have
discretion
to
put
all
these
conditions
and
different
and
different
things.
So
here
here's
most
of
our
conserve
80
children,
the
hours
of
operation
they
will,
they
will
impact
us.
We
only
have
one
entrance
and
exit
I'm
going
to
show
you
some
of
these
pictures.
This
was
their
employee
thing
for
just
a
school
with
limited
nine
employees,
25
35
trips.
It's
not
it's
not
nothing.
These
are
the
all
the
schools
within
that
specific
area
oop.
AD
This
is
what
happens
in
the
more
in
the
morning
on
Mallory.
This
is
what
happens
in
Park
Central.
This
is
what
happens:
waiting
50
cars,
at
least
this
is
down
Mallard
Street
in
the
afternoon
and
during
their
pickup
times,
there's
a
car
right
in
front
of
Terrell.
In
our
exit
access,
nobody
can
get
in
this.
This
one
is
interesting
because
it
shows,
if
you
look
closely
I
personally
witnessed
this
people
will
will
they're
waiting
in
line
on
Park
Center.
They
try
to
get
in
here
because
they're
so
jammed
up.
AD
They
Block
Park,
Center
I
personally
saw
a
car
who
was
in
the
middle
of
Park
Center,
going
to
the
opposing
traffic
lane
at
35
miles
an
hour.
Luckily,
nobody
was
there
because
they
were
blocking
traffic,
two
buses
and
they
don't.
This
is
where
they
let
them
off.
They
block
the
fire
lane.
Students
are
there
all
the
time.
That's
our
egress.
This
is
the
parking
for
Smoky
Mountain,
that's
our
receptacle!
This
is
the
parking
in
front
of
my
office.
It's
fat,
crowded
and
I'll.
Tell
you
see
that
van
that
fan?
AD
C
B
B
AE
Commissioner,
excuse
me
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Jim
Cook
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
Idaho
legal
aid,
next
door
with
Howard
and
I'm.
Also
the
president
of
the
Park
Center
Point
Association,
although
I'm
not
here
on
behalf
of
all
of
them,
we
didn't
have
time
for
a
meeting,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
just
just
a
few
thoughts
we
bought
our
building
in
2015..
We
were
down
downtown
and
we
were
tired
of
our
clients
getting
tickets.
AE
We
represent
low-income
folks
in
civil
legal
legal
needs,
and
so
we
did
our
due
diligence
and
we
found
a
business
park
that
limited
itself
to
business
and
professional
uses.
Professional
and
administrative
uses
that's
in
the
ccnr's
for
the
park.
So
when
this
came
to
us
last
year
there
was
a
discussion
amongst
the
board
and
I
was
actually
one
of
those
who
supported
letting
them
in.
It
was
pitched
as
a
educational,
a
language
school
for
children
and
adults
with
very
limited
hours.
Had
we
last
year
been
presented
with
a
daycare.
AE
I
would
not
have
supported
this.
One
of
the
reasons
is
it's
an
incompatible
use
with
the
other
offices.
I'm
also
very
worried
about
the
little
kids,
but
secondarily
the
parking
is
not
as
it
is
represented.
For
example,
I
looked
in
this.
This
is
the
application
there's
something
in
there
called
a
site
site
plan,
I
think
and
it's
a
photo,
and
it
says
in
here
it
identifies
well
here's
employee
parking,
here's
preschool
pickup
spaces,
here's
minibus
parking,
we
have
no
dedicated
parking.
All
of
the
the
parking
is
communal.
AE
None
of
us
can
take
and
designate
any
of
that
parking
for
us
so
that
parking
that
may
happen
to
be
used
at
times
by
them
for
that,
but
it's
not
their
parking
in
their
application.
They
also
indicate
that
they
have
eight
spaces.
I,
don't
know
what
those
are
but
they're,
not
in
the
community.
All
of
the
spaces
are
communal.
They
may
have
eight
in
front
of
their
building.
We
have
eight
or
ten
in
front
of
our
building,
but
they're,
not
our
spaces,
so
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
that
it's
not
a
reserved
facility.
AE
B
W
AF
Name
is
Erica
Klein
and
I
am
an
attorney
I
work
at
kosho,
Humphrey
LLP,
which
is
located
at
1501,
South,
Tyrell
Lane.
That's
also
part
of
this
Park
Point
Owners,
Association
and
I.
Just
a
couple
things
that
maybe
weren't
touched
on
or
just
to
highlight.
AF
Like
legal
aid,
we
used
to
have
an
office
in
a
different
location.
We
purchased
our
building
in
2016
in
this
park.
One
of
the
big
reasons
was
being
able
to
have
our
clients
be
able
to
get
to
us.
We
previously
were
somewhere.
They
had
to
walk
a
long
ways
and
to
be
able
to
have
that
parking
available
and
in
an
area
that
was
compatible
use
with
other
professional
type
offices.
AF
We
have
some
serious
concerns
about
this.
Obviously
there's
all
of
those
traffic
issues
that
Mr
beladoff
pointed
out
that
have
gone
on
with
the
sage
school,
but
it
sounds
to
me
from
the
information
provided
by
Suntree
that
now
they're
they're
only
going
to
be
impacting
things
between
with
sage
and
them,
7
30
to
9,
30
and
then
again
from
three
to
six.
AF
We
weren't
concerned
initially
for
the
things
after
five
either,
because
most
of
the
time
we
don't
have
clients,
then,
but
so
we're
essentially
down
to
four
four
and
a
half
hours
of
a
business
day,
because
what
we've
had
to
do
even
just
to
accommodate
The
Sage
School
patterns
is
have
clients
not
come
to
our
office,
not
be
able
to
do
business
during
those
morning
hours
and
those
afternoon
hours,
because
it
is
so
dangerous
and
so
blocked
up.
AF
I
noted
that
one
of
the
commission
members
asked
about
fire
access
there's
hours
a
day
where
there
would
be
no
access
for
a
fire
truck,
because
Mallard
is
blocked
and
and
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
get
in
the
other
thing.
That
goes
with
that
and
my
concern
about
where
this
building
you
can
see
it's
the
last
building
on
that
map
there
that
Suntree
provided
that
last
building.
AF
Is
there
the
parking
thing
that
they're
talking
about
that's
not
theirs
right
in
front
of
the
building
is
right
as
you're
coming
in
from
Mallard
onto
Tyrell,
and
they
would
be
backing
up
into
that
drive
lane
and
I.
Think
that
that's
a
big
concern
too.
If
it's
going
to
be
a
big
most
of
the
professional
offices,
people
come
and
go
during
the
day.
It's
not
a
big
load
of
traffic,
all
at
one
time
and
I.
Think
that
that's
really
a
concern.
AF
The
other
thing
that
I
would
point
out
is
that
that
I
understand
we
want
to
work
with
neighbors.
We.
We
appreciate
that
Sentry
wants
to
be
a
good
neighbor.
Although
you
know
it's
really
interesting,
when
you
look
at
their
application
that
they've
had
to
make
zero
modifications
to
their
building
from
what
they
originally
asked
for
to
do
this
daycare.
What
that
tells
me
is
that
this
potentially
was
their
plan
all
along
and
I.
AF
Think
that
that's
a
concern
and
I
I
think
that
we
were
misled
and
that's
Troublesome
to
us,
but
our
covenants
I
don't
believe
they
allow
this.
They
don't
allow
the
the
parking
that
they've
said
is
going
to
make
them
compliant
and
I.
Don't
think
that's,
okay,
one
last
point:
they
are
not
an
owner.
Suntree
does
not
own
this
building,
there's
a
separate
owner.
They
are
tenants
and
I.
Don't
think
we
bend
over
backwards
to
give
a
cup
to
a
tenant
who's,
not
even
an
owner
and
doesn't
have
the
same
vested
interest.
I.
B
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
then,
and
bring
us
back
to
the
applicant
for
five
minutes
of
rebuttal.
V
So,
just
to
address
a
couple
of
the
comments
the
parking
chart
that
was
that
showed
some
labels
on
there
was
was
really
just
an
example
of
of
what
could
possibly
be
used
for
for
parking
there.
As
noted
in
the
application,
it
is
a
shared
parking
lot,
so
we
were
not
proposing
to
designate
any
specific
spaces.
V
V
By
saying
you
can't
park
in
front
of
our
neighbors
buildings
and-
and
things
like
that-
which
you
saw
in
the
excerpt
from
the
family
handbook
again
also
to
address,
we
were
not
trying
to
mislead
about
what
we
were
wanting
to
do.
I.
We
honestly
want
to.
We,
we've
been
hearing
a
ton
of
demand
from
our
current
customers
at
Suntree,
asking
us
to
to
add
younger
ages,
and
we
and
we
get
questions
about
it
all
the
time,
so
we're
we're
not
trying
to
mislead
it.
V
We're
already
have
an
educational
use
occupancy,
so
it
you
know
which
was
needed
to
have
a
private
commercial
school
as
well.
So.
AB
I
would
I
would
like
to
point
that,
obviously
we
don't
own
the
parking,
it's
a
share
parking,
so
we
certainly
concerned
we
know.
That's
under
there
are
moments
that
there's
a
bunch
of
traffic,
but
I
would
like
to
share
to
you
that
we
are
the
front
line.
We
are
the
first
building
all
those
planets
of
the
government,
access
to
that
parking
that
they
weren't
supposed
to
wear
the
ones
that
see
one
of
the
ones
that
talk
with
the
parents.
We
are
the
ones
that
they
are
running
from
our
building,
so
we're
at
the
Frontline.
AB
For
that
we
certainly
concerned,
and
we
don't
want
to
add
to
that
then
continuing
with
Justin
said
we
get
that
those
questions
all
the
time
like
we
have
an
empty
school.
Why?
We
don't
share
this
knowledge
that
we
have
this.
The
whale
is
that
there
is
foreign.
AB
That'll
lead
us
to
this
point,
others
all
those
cars
that
they
were
showing
I,
don't
know
if
they
believe
that
we
caused
that.
But
obviously
we
don't
cast
any
of
that
to
the
they
were
a
p.
There
was
a
picture
of
our
students
working
by.
Thus
those
are
in
our
students.
That's
true
that
we
dropped
them
off
with
the
bus
and
there's
a
teacher
that
picks
them
up
at
the
bus
drop
off,
and
then
we
go
inside
end
of
the
deal
it
will
go
outside.
It
would
be
the
same
thing.
AB
The
teacher
will
go
myself
any
other
other
with
them
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
park
or
do
this
in
a
deep
place
so
about
safety.
Our
parking
concern.
We
are
really
aware
of
the
situation
and
we
really
want
to
help
the
neighbors.
We
don't
want
to
cause
more
because
we
know
that
sometimes
there
is
a
bunch.
V
Of
people
around
and
and
just
to
add,
most
of
the
photos
in
there
were
photos
taken
in
front
of
buildings
other
than
ours
of
parking.
So.
AB
Yes,
then,
he
says:
Mr
bologo
complained
too,
that
we
were
the
remote
the
keys
at
that
right
in
front
of
the
building.
Well,
they
send
us
a
letter
where
we
had
to
sign
up
the
workable
agreements
for
being
there
on
one
estate.
Each
business
in
the
complex
has
work
in
business.
We
want
that
access
open
as
much
as
possible.
AB
So
that
means
that
in
certain
moment
the
bus
arrives,
we
drop
the
keys,
we
go
park
them,
we
don't
we
don't
park
the
car,
the
passenger,
we
drop
the
keys
and
then
we
park
to
the
rest
of
the
parking.
So
I
don't
see
the
issue
from
us,
because
we
are
aware
of
the
situation
and
we
want
to
help
the
neighbors.
We
don't
want
to
cause
more
more,
no
sense
or
how
is
that
work?
Sorry,
I'm
from
West
conditions-
and
this
is
a
very
difficult
awarding
all.
B
Right
thanks
guys
all
right
go
ahead
and
bring
this
item
back
before
the
commission
to
render
decision-
and
this
is
item
number
four
cup
22-65.
B
J
J
I,
just
I
think
this
application
is
pretty
compatible
with
the
surrounding
businesses
and
for
all
the
obvious
reasons
stated
in
the
staff
report.
As
far
as
like
parking
requirement
goes,
I
think
it's
met.
I
know
a
lot
of
those
pictures
are
Sage,
The,
Sage,
right
and
close
by
and
and
I
I
can
see
the
frustration
of
everybody
with
that
a
school
right
there
I
live
next
to
a
school
as
well
and
I
feel
like
I'm,
risking
my
life
every
time,
I
pull
out
of
my
subdivision,
but
I.
J
Don't
think
that
this
application
has
anything
to
do
with
that
traffic
problem
again.
They've
met
the
parking
requirement,
I
think
as
far
as
everything
else,
I
I
think
that
it's
a
reuse
of
the
same
building
and
as
far
as
the
HOA
goes,
we
don't
really.
We
don't
regulate
or
even
review
the
HOAs,
because
it's
not
something
that
is
considered
in
these
applications.
So
I
think
that
is
probably
between
the
tenant
and
or
the
association
itself.
J
But
it
really
has
no
weight
here
in
front
of
us
so
for
those
Reasons
I'm
in
support
of
this
application.
O
Obviously,
it's
part
of
the
motion
I
think
you
know
it's
a
modification
of
the
permit
to
include
a
child
care
facility
for
an
existing
school,
but
the
number
of
occupants
isn't
changing.
It's
just
changing
kind
of
the
hours
and
the
amenities,
but
not
changing
the
number
of
occupants.
So
while
the
hours
may
change
when
the
cars
are
coming,
going,
I
wouldn't
anticipate
much
traffic
change
at
all,
and
so,
for
those
reasons,
I
see
no
issue
with
that.
B
E
Sherman
Trisha
daily
I'm
going
to
be
in
supportive
of
the
motion,
but
a
little
bit
of
History
everybody
called
being
on
the
commission
when
Sage
came
in
front
of
us
and
I
recall
distinctly
having
the
discussion
of
the
conversion
of
from
being
in
Mall,
a
small
original
Mall
to
a
school
and
the
traffic
flow
in
Park
Center.
The
solution
to
much
of
the
problem
still
exists
but
has
never
been
that
has
never
occurred.
E
Tyrell
can
being
a
a
throughway
in
creating
a
loop,
but
there's
a
there
is
a
island
in
between
as
a
barrier
I
know
it's
tree
I'm
a
you,
don't
understand
how
big
of
a
fan
I
am
of
trees.
Trust
me
on
that
right
and
I
get
that
it's
a
beautiful
little
spot
I
get
that
but
I'm
telling
you.
That
is
the
linchpin
to
all
the
problems
and,
if
that
were
to
connect
and
the
traffic
flow
for
sage,
be
or
be
a
full
circle
versus
the
way
that
it
works.
Now.
E
All
of
that
would
go
away,
but
it
never
was
exercised
and
it
still
exists
to
this
day
and
it
still
is
a
problem
so,
but
the
applicant
I,
don't
think
is,
is
part
of
that
problem,
and,
and
so
I
would
encourage
you
to
do
what
we
talked
about
that
night.
However
many
years
ago,
which
is
still
possible,
but
for
the
first
tonight's
sake,
I'm
being
supportive
of
emotion,.
C
B
I'll
also
be
supporting
the
motion.
I
agree
with
Mr
danley's
statements.
I,
don't
think
that
this
school
is
the
driver
behind
all
the
greater
traffic
issues
in
the
area.
Right,
it's
a
dynamic,
neighborhood,
there's
a
lot
of
different
uses
going
on
and
to
be
quite
Frank
that
drop
off
and
pickup
time
happens
at
every
school
in
the
Treasure
Valley
every
single
day.
So
I
don't
think
that
that's.
B
This
is
a
unique
problem
by
any
means
and
I
completely
agree
with
commissioner
Danley
that
there
is
a
solution
that
he
just
proposed
I
think
is
absolutely
viable.
Having
said
all
that,
though,
again,
this
school
is
not.
This
application
is
not
the
driver
for
those
greater
issues
and
I
would
encourage
the
neighborhood
to
work
together
to
find
a
solution
that
works
for
everybody.