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A
A
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
the
Boise
City
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
public
hearing
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak
as
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you'll
be
called
upon
and
unmuted
there
is
a
chat
function
in
Zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
A
Our
procedures
for
public
hearing
begin
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
then
the
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association
Then,
followed
by
questions
from
the
commission.
After
that,
we
proceed
to
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person,
then
who
signed
up
on
the
sign
up
sheet
in
advance
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
Star
9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
is
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
Testimony.
A
B
B
Providing
the
appeals
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing
in
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
at
tonight's
meeting.
That's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight,
we
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
that
end
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda,
all
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
a
short
agenda
this
evening.
We
have
a
couple
of
items
eligible
for
consent,
so
we'll
start
there.
The
first
of
those
items
is
item
number
two:
it's
PUD
22-70.
B
And
SUV
22-72:
this
is
Rodney
Evans
and
partners.
Pllc
is
the
applicant.
The
project
address
is
915,
North,
Shamrock
Street.
This
is
a
application
to
modify
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development,
comprised
of
16
single-family
homes
on
two
acres
in
an
r1c
Zone,
and
then
the
associated
preliminary
plot
with
said
project
and
I
believe
the
applicant
is
online.
E
I'm
doing
well
Mr
chair,
we
are
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report
and
the
conditions
of
approval.
Okay,.
B
B
Excuse
me,
this
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
hospital
on
3.21
acres
in
a
c3d
D.A
zone
is
the
applicant
present
in
our
unit
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report.
Okay,
let
the
records
show
that
the
applicant
is
present
and
is
in
agreement
with
the
staff
report.
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
hoping
to
testify
an
opposition
to
this
item.
F
D
B
D
B
And
now
we'll
go
ahead
and
return
to
the
top
of
our
agenda
for
our
last
remaining
item
tonight.
It's
item
number
one
PUD
22-63,
the
applicant
is
coal
Architects.
The
address
is
8133
North
Bogart
Lane.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
unit,
development
comprised
of
96
multi-family
units
on
6.22
acres
and
an
r1c
Zone
with
a
development
agreement.
D
B
G
Good
evening
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
the
item
before
you
is
a
request
for
a
conditional
use
permit
for
Planned
residential
development,
comprised
of
96
multi-family
units
on
6.22
Acres,
located
at
8133
North
Bogart
Lane
in
an
R1
CTA
Zone.
The
current
application
is
related
to
phase
three
of
The
prominent
subdivision,
which
was
originally
approved
in
2019.
G
Conditions
of
approval
directly
related
to
this
phase
of
the
development
were
discussed
in
your
packet
and
are
shown
on
this
slide
for
reference.
The
overall
project
included
a
rezone
of
38.4
acres
to
r1cda,
a
PUD
for
a
total
of
252
drawing
units
and
a
residential
subdivision,
a
condition
of
approval
required
the
applicant
to
obtain
specific
PUD
approval
for
the
multi-family
component
of
the
project,
which
is
the
item
before
you.
This
evening.
G
The
applicant
proposes
a
total
of
96
multi-family
units
within
six
two-story
apartment
buildings.
A
clubhouse
and
small
pop-up
commercial
space
are
also
proposed
on
the
site.
Other
amenities
for
the
project
include
a
covered
outdoor
Gathering
area
and
two
common
Open
Spaces
landscaped
with
edible
plants,
a
condition
of
the
original
approval
prohibited
the
parking
associated
with
phase
three
from
exceeding
the
maximum
minimum
amount
required
by
the
development
code.
Typically,
a
total
of
130
spaces
would
be
required
for
the
development.
G
However,
the
applicant
proposes
to
assign
96
of
the
parking
spaces
to
residents
of
the
apartment
units,
thereby
increasing
the
total
number
of
required
and
proposed
spaces
to
150..
The
planning
team
finds
that
the
proposal
is
consistent
with
all
other
PUD
requirements
and
the
conditions
of
the
development
agreement.
G
Written
opposition
was
received
from
the
Northwest
neighborhood
association
and
multiple
members
of
the
public.
The
concerns
expressed
in
their
comments
were
also
raised
during
the
original
entitlement
process
and
specific
conditions
of
approval
regarding
the
site,
design,
Building,
height,
number
of
units,
parking
and
timing
of
the
development
were
placed
at
that
time
to
address
those
concerns,
a
traffic
impact
study
was
reviewed
and
approved
for
the
overall
project
and
achd
has
expressed
no
concern
regarding
the
current
application.
G
Many
comments
were
received
that
expressed
concern
regarding
the
proposal's
consistency
with
the
Northwest
Boise
neighborhood
plan,
specifically
regarding
the
protection
of
the
nearby
spoil
Banks
canal
and
irrigation
lateral.
However,
both
the
canal
and
irrigation
lateral
are
located
outside
of
the
subject
property
within
phase
two
of
the
development.
The
current
application
does
not
propose
to
modify
any
of
the
existing
conditions
which
are
in
place
regarding
the
treatment
of
the
canal
and
lateral.
H
Matter
filled
with
co-architects
I
think
most
of
the
items
were
addressed
there.
I
do
want
to.
H
Yes,
sorry,
1008
West,
Main,
Street,
Boise,
Idaho,
great.
B
H
So
I
think
most
of
the
the
items
there
were
addressed.
I
just
want
to
touch
on
a
couple
of
points
the
as
we're
focusing
on
this
part
of
this
overall
development.
It's
only
we're
only
talking
about
the
multi-family
housing
and
not
the
rest
of
the
development.
H
This
I
don't
know
if
we
have
any
slides
but
I
think
they
were
up
there
before
I
think
the
the
design
you
can
flip
through
to
the
designs.
The
design
of
this
was
to
intended
to
mimic
the
the
changing
landscape
of
the
Foothills,
with
rustic
Earth
Tones
encourage
architecture
to
blend.
In
with
the
the
surrounding
nature
of
the
property
we
we
did
a
lot
to
deal
with
sight
lines
and
visibility
from
Neighbors,
and
things
like
that
to
try
to
minimize
a
lot
of
that.
H
We've
provided
in
listening
to
the
neighbors
I.
Think,
that's
why
we
came
back
and
asked
for
the
additional
parking.
One
of
the
major
concerns
was
the
possible
amount
of
street
parking
that
would
be
needed
for
this,
and
so
we
we
added
parking
to
to
help
deal
with
some
of
that
stuff
and
and
just
to
try
to
appease
them
as
best
we
can
and
and
try
to
provide
something.
That's
going
to
work
for
the
city
of
Boise
and
its
residents.
B
All
right,
thank
you
all
right!
Well,
next,
we'll
go
ahead
and
hear
from
the
neighborhood
association
as
the
presentation
go
over
here
now
or.
J
I
I
First
of
all,
spoils
Banks
Canal
runs
through
the
southern
portion
of
phase
three.
That
was
an
error
in
the
planning
staff
that
you
just
heard.
It
is
a
year
around
Waterway.
It's
remarkable
that
way.
It's
very
unusual.
It
hosts
rainbow
trout
as
Kate
Harris,
provided
us
a
study
from
USGS
that
captured
the
trout
and
showed
the
Aquatic
invertebrates
that
feed
those
trout
and
in
the
center
there
you
see
where
the
spoil
Bank
Canal
enters
the
Boise
River.
I
That's
what
it
looks
like
where
it
enters
the
Boise
River
to
the
left
is
what
it
now
looks
like
in
our
neighborhood.
When
I
was
a
kid
I
caught
the
biggest
crawdad
I've
ever
seen
in
my
life.
Well,
I
didn't
catch,
it
was
too
big.
I
was
afraid
of
it.
In
my
life
there
it's
it's.
It
is
a
remarkable
resource.
Groundwater
Fed
so
runs
you
around,
unlike
any
other
water
source
in
our
neighborhood.
I
Oh
dear
okay,
let's
see
okay,
so
Boise
Master
Pathways
plan.
This
is
in
the
top
10
priorities
for
having
a
plan
or
a
path
along
it.
Within
this
phase,
three
part
of
the
development
as
well
as
phase
two
I,
don't
know
why
it's
not
addressed
by
staff.
This
is
adopted
into
the
comprehensive
plan
and
this
is
the
chance
to
actually
Implement
such
a
plan.
I
It
is
number
nine
I,
don't
know
if
those
are
ranked,
but
it
is
in
the
top
ten
out
of
dozens
of
different
segments
that
have
been
identified
by
the
city
and
indeed
our
history
and
our
cultural
connection
to
these
waterways
was
part
of
the
impetus
of
this.
Actually,
this
master
Pathways
plan
being
created.
So
it's
odd
to
us
that
this
has
been
left
out
of
the
plan.
I
It's
also
well,
for
instance,
just
this
last
summer,
you
all
approved
a
development
along
Hill
Road
east
of
Pierce
Park,
in
which
you
did
require
the
pathway
along
Farmers
Union
Canal,
outside
of
their
easement.
Even
though
that's
not
a
priority,
it's
just.
It
is
a
segment
in
the
master
pathway
plan,
but
unlike
this
one,
it's
not
a
priority
and
in
to
the
right
you'll
see
the
text.
One
thing
to
note
is,
in
addition
to
further
enhance
The
Pedestrian
connectivity
through
the
site.
I
But
this
is
not
a
new
idea
from
the
very
beginning,
the
applicant
expressed
interest
in
having
that
plan,
Jane
Suggs
said
you
can
enjoy
the
quiet
pathway
along
the
canal.
We've
highlighted
Pathways
in
Orange.
There
you
see
it
at
the
bottom
there
going
along
a
pathway
in
the
conceptual
area
of
phase
three
and
again,
a
pathway
along
the
canal
will
come
back
to
Bogart
Lane
to
the
east.
I
It's
been
part
of
this
process
the
whole
time,
and
indeed
it's
one
of
the
better
aspects
of
the
development
and
it
is
applicable
to
phase
three
and
phase
two
in
the
Boyce
way
pathway
master
plan.
This
would
be
a
riparian
pathway,
it
has
the
ability
to
enhance
habitats
and,
as
we
showed
in
slides
and
when
we
showed
in
the
appendix
this
is
a
place
where
we
do
have
the
most
wildlife
in
our
neighborhood
because
of
that
year-round,
Waterway
source,
and
so
it
should
be
enhanced
and
designed
and
taken
advantage
of
as
an
opportunity.
I
Now.
This
is
the
time
to
do
it.
If
we
go
ahead
and
develop
this
area,
that
will
be
the
last
chance
and
that
will
be
gone
in
our
neighborhood,
and
this
is
a
priority
plan
so
again,
more
evidence
that
this
was
always
agreed
to.
I
Even
though
it's
been
left
out,
we
agreed
to
add
The
Pedestrian
pathway
on
the
south
side,
Leon
letson,
that
was
from
Jane
Suggs
Leon
letson
introduces
the
city
council,
the
network
of
Pathways
for
bicycles
and
pedestrians
is
also
incorporating
the
project,
including
along
the
swells
Banks
Cabell
Nelson
repeats
that
the
project
proposal,
as
given
to
city
council,
expresses
the
importance
of
the
of
the
pathway,
our
neighborhood
plan,
open
house.
I
We
were
given
little
dots
and
you
can
see
the
pink
dots
are
where
people
wanted
to
have
a
pathway.
In
this
case,
it's
really
a
traditional
pathway
in
some
of
that
area
along
the
prominence
site,
it's
undeveloped
to
the
north,
and
so
that
is
the
best
way.
It's
it's.
Maybe
the
only
way
in
the
next
20
years
to
start
that
nucleus.
But
that's
the
case
with
a
lot
of
this.
This
master
pathway
plan
you'll
have
to
take
advantage
of
where
you
can,
when
you
can
now
there's
a
whole
bunch.
I
I
put
these
in
the
in
your
packet
a
whole
bunch
of
Northwest
neighborhood
plans
and
Boise
comprehensive
plans
that
directly
speak
to
the
spoils
by
Canal
or
indirectly.
But
these
are
pretty
much
all
direct
I.
Don't
have
time
am
I
10
minutes
to
go
through
each
one
of
these,
but
they're
very
specific.
I
Now
the
Northwest
neighborhood
plan
was
not
completed.
We
were
working
on
it,
but
it
was
not
completed
when
this
went
through
as
a
concept
at
city
council,
but
it
is
completed
now.
It's
part
of
the
pla
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan
now,
and
so
it
does.
It
is
the
existing
policy
conditions
for
the
this
PUD
irrigation,
lateral
number,
34
I've,
put
into
your
packet
email
correspondence
that
suggests
that
it's
going
to
be
buried
contrary
to
the
development
agreement,
I
believe
that's
a
direct
violation.
I
I
If
it's,
if
it's
buried,
not
only
is
that
a
violation-
probably
it's
certainly
a
violation
of
the
spirit
of
the
plan,
and
if
it
is
taken
away
that
natural
habitat
there's
a
swainson's
hawk
that
you
pair
that
used
to
live
right
along
there
and
still
probably
do,
but
at
any
rate,
if
you
get
rid
of
this
by
wiggling
away
from
that
development
agreement,
which
is
expressed
the
intent
and
the
spirit
of
this
development,
then
you
really
need
to
mitigate
for
that
and
make
up
for
it
with
a
wider,
better
buffer
along
the
spoil
Bank
canal,
the
building
roof
Heights
it
was
reduced.
I
The
the
heights
were
reduced
from
three
stories
to
two
stories,
specifically
so
that
people
could
maintain
that
visual
connection
to
the
foothills.
So
you
know
I
understand
you
know
wanting
to
have
some
architectural.
You
know
something
other
than
flat
roofs
to
me
that
the
Foothills
look
a
little
bit
more
Georgia
o'keefe-esque
than
those
pointed
roof
lines,
but
regardless
I
think
the
function
here
should
be
considered
before
the
the
architectural
feature
and
now,
and
that
was
expressed
as
part
of
the
original
reason
for
reducing
the
heights
of
those
Hill
Road
Parkway.
I
Unfortunately,
we're
trying
to
get
around
this,
but
this
is
not
easy,
we're
getting
more
and
more
of
these
large
diesel
trucks
it
right.
Now
it's
about
what
every
five
minutes,
but
at
the
rate
the
landfill
is
being
used
by
Meridian,
Star
and
kuna
and
Middleton
well,
not
Middleton.
Sorry,
it's
Ada
County!
I
It's
going
to
be
where
we
have
a
diesel
truck
going
along
the
parkway
more
often
than
not,
and
so
the
way
that
this
is
designed
with
that
opens
that
Gathering
space
right
up
there
along
the
Parkway
and
then
there's
gonna,
be
a
roundabout
over
there
on
the
right.
So
these
diesel
trucks
will
be
shifting
gears
and
going
around
that
roundabout.
Is
this
not
going
to
be
a
good
use
of
space
for
the
residents?
I
I
would
suggest
this
needs
to
be
redesigned
regardless
in
order
to
incorporate
the
path
that
that,
like
the
other
application,
that
Gathering
space
or
open
space
connects
to
the
pathway-
and
one
important
thing
is,
this-
is
all
tied
to
the
construction
of
the
fire
station,
which
has
been
bumped
back
to
2024.
So
we
have
time
to
get
it
right
again.
Traffic
is
the
same
problem
as
expressed
in
the
prominence
application,
and
this
is
from
Jane
Suggs.
I
You've
seen
this
when
we
were
talking
about
the
Matlock,
Westlock
Village
same
issue:
yes,
there
is,
we
don't
have
a
traffic
problem
adjacent
to
these
streets
yet,
but
where
the
cars
will
go
either
on
the
State,
Street
or
down
hill
road
Parkway,
there
is
a
problem,
so
I
do
have
recommendations
if
you'd
like
to
hear
them
I'm
sure.
D
I
Let's
just
we
can
keep
it
quick
if
I
could
see
that
slide.
It's
just
the
last
slide
that
has
kind
of
our
neighborhood
recommendations.
I
Number
one
comply
with
the
Boise
Master
pathway,
private
Pathways
as
a
riparian
corridor,
and
it's
an
opportunity
to
protect
habitat
those
they're,
not
something
I'm
comfortable
up
here,
trying
to
convey
to
you
the
design
guidelines.
You
know
that's
a
a
lengthy
and
specific
document
and
how
you
exactly
design
a
path
in
this
area
is,
is
something
the
professionals
should
look
at
and
sure
the
entire
project
meets
the
developer
agreements
and
then
tend
to
the
agreements.
I
If
the
da
is
being
broken,
that's
not
only
a
legal
problem,
but
it's
also
a
problem
in
how
the
whole
development
should
fit
together,
as
just
mentioned
the
last
two
things.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
B
K
I
have
a
question
for
staff,
kick
to
the
pathways
statements
and
what
the
city's
perspective
is
on.
That.
G
Yeah
Mr
chair
commissioner
stead
the
pathway
along
the
spoil
Banks
Canal
is
more
tied
to
phase
two
of
this
development
than
it
is
to
phase
three
in
the
original
agreement.
There
is
a
condition:
that's
tied
to
phase
two
that
requires
an
easement
for
a
future
Bridge
crossing
over
the
squirrel
Banks
canal,
in
support
of
a
larger
effort
to
provide
a
north-south
bicycle
and
pedestrian
pathway
that
would
connect
neighborhoods
near
State,
Street
to
the
Boise
Foothills,
and
that
that
needs
to
be
depicted
on
the
subdivision
plot
for
phase
three.
K
I
Thank
you
for
the
question.
No,
absolutely
not
because
the
pathway
goes
from
Bogart
Lane
over
to
irrigation,
lateral
number
34.,
that's
the
entire
Southern
length
of
the
parcel,
and
so
there's
no
way
that
the
property
boundary
of
phase
three
extends
across
the
irrigation
lateral.
So
there's
no
way
to
ignore
phase
three
here
when
we're
designing
phase
three
and
maintain
that
adequate
buffer
for
a
priority
pathway
from
the
Boise
ambassadors
pathway
plan
it
just
it
doesn't.
I
If
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
you
can
see,
they
haven't
left
the
adequate
space
and,
of
course
the
the
professionals
need
to
to
weigh
in
on
that.
There
is
a
75
foot
to
100
foot
easement
in
that
swells
by
canal,
and
typically
it's
good
to
put
these
outside
of
that
easement,
as
you
did
with
that
earlier
development
that
I
discussed
west
or
east
of
Pierce
Parkway
on
Hill
Road
for
the
Farmers
Union
Canal.
Thank.
L
I
M
Had
a
question
for
staff,
has
the
construction
began
on
fire
station
16.
M
G
N
Thank
you,
Mr
chair
the
question
for
staff,
real
quick.
The
could
you
put
that
slide
back
up
the
aerial
map
that
answered
my
question
can
is
this
considered
part
of
the
record
now
because
this
was
not
in
our
packet
and
it
really
explains
my
confusion
regarding
the
canal,
the
East
West
Wells
Bank
canal,
and
this
whole
Pathways
discussion.
Is
this
part
of
the
record
now.
G
N
Okay,
so
follow
up
then
for
the
neighborhood.
Does
this
graphic
answer
your
question
about
squirrel
Banks
and
how
this
would
be
handled
in
phase
two
versus
phase
three.
I
Thank
you
for
the
question,
commissioner
Mooney.
It's
really
hard
to
tell
from
that
graphic,
because
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
having
an
adequate
buffer
for,
as
was
described
by
the
applicant,
a
peaceful
nature,
trail
I,
I,
don't
know
what
exactly
where
that
road
is.
Is
that
I
think
in
phase
three
but
I?
Don't
know
how
that
relates
to
the
existing
easement,
which
may
not
be
usable
for
the
Spells
Bank
Canal?
I
So
you
know
without
measurements
and
understanding
of
whether
or
not
the
easement
will
be
has
been
granted
use
for
this
I
I
can't
I
can't
say
it
does
I
I
to
me.
It
makes
sense
that,
while
we're
constructing
and
planning
phase
three,
we
plan
in
the
pathway
at
the
same
time,
but
thank
you.
B
You
bet
thanks:
John,
yeah,
I,
guess
Sabrina,
that's
one
question
I
have
and
maybe
it's
a
question
for
the
applicant
does:
does
anyone
have
a
copy
of
this
phase
three
site
plan
on
the
aerial
or
give
us
a
sense
of
the
width
of
that
right-of-way?
That's
south
of
this
proposed
development
to
the
canal.
L
G
H
E
H
I
think
to
answer
Miss
Flint
Flint
Rock's
question.
We
we
have
a
few
months
before
we're
gonna,
even
be
close
to
being
ready
for
permitting
and
submitting
for
permitting.
So
we're
we're
six
months
out
before
we
have
a
building
permit.
So
the
idea
is
that
that
fire
station
will
be
underway
before
well
before
we
have
permits
so.
B
G
N
Yeah
I
I
was
trying
to
get
some
more
background
for
the
decisions
made
back
in
2019
and
I
guess.
This
is
a
question
for
staff
for
the
the
denial
that
we
made
in
May
of
2019,
which
Council
overturned
in
our
project
report
packet.
Here
it
says
the
P,
the
pzc
denial
was
in
part
to
give
the
city
and
residents
time
to
fulfill
the
policy
of
the
Northwest
neighborhood
character.
1.5.
N
It
sounds
like
the
denial
was
also
in
part.
Due
to
this
was
on
page
89
of
our
packet.
It
was
also
in
part
due
to
lack
of
adequate
Transportation
infrastructure,
so
so
both
since
those
were
previous
denials
from
this
body
back
in
May
of
2019
in
part,
is
confusing
to
me.
Can
anyone
help
me
understand
what
really
transpired
back
then.
G
G
N
G
N
Okay,
so
Mr
chair,
I,
guess
I
got
a
question
about
how's
the
multi-use
path,
Sabrina
I
guess
questions
for
you,
how's
the
multi-use
path
along
Hill,
Road
handled
based
on
the
construction
plans
and
the
roundabout,
or
is
that
all
off-site
and
not
of
concern
for
this
application?.
G
Mr
chair,
commissioner
Mooney.
Those
larger
improvements
are
mainly
handled
through
phase
one
and
three
one
and
two,
this
phase
three
we're
only
looking
at
the
improvements
on
this
site
on
this
parcel.
M
Question
for
staff,
so
how
were
the
paths
actually
addressed
in
the
development
agreement?
You
said
they
were
in
phase
one
and
two
did
they?
Did
they
speak
to
those
directly
or
and
I'm?
Sorry,
maybe
this
was
in
our
packet.
I
may
have
missed
it.
G
There
are
conditions
in
phase
one
and
two
that
speak
towards
the
pathways
with
phase
one
there's,
a
condition
that
reads:
Pathways
associated
with
this
portion
of
the
development
shall
be
publicly
accessible
and
depicted
notated
on
the
final
plot
for
phase
two
there's
a
condition
that
requires
a
seven
foot,
publicly
accessible
pathway
along
the
irrigation,
lateral
34.
That's
been
discussed
tonight,
as
well
as
the
requirement
for
an
easement
for
future
Bridge
crossing
over
the
spoil
Banks
canal.
F
Mr
chairman
Mr
Danley,
this
is
a
question
for
staff.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
clear,
so
the
neighborhood
association
drafted
their
plan
I
think
it
was
pretty
close
to
the
same
time
as
the
rezone
went
through
in
our
comprehensive
plan.
It
is
not
cited
specifically
by
resolution,
but
I
do
see.
The
final
resolution
that
covers
all
of
the
changes
and
amendments
to
our
plan
has
a
blanket
statement
that
is
basically
referencing.
31
plans
follow
me
here
and
that
was
done
in
January
2021.
B
C
B
I
So
analogous
to
the
plan
you
approved
and
that
considered
it
a
feature,
an
enhancement
to
put
any
kind
of
open
space,
one
next
to
the
pathway
that
the
more
natural
pathway
but
two
I'm,
just
very
fearful
that
nobody's
going
to
use
that
because
of
the
increased
Haul
truck
traffic
on
the
Hill
Road
Parkway.
It's
something
we
we're
trying
to
figure
out
ways
around.
But
those
are
going
from
the
transfer
stations
and
you
know
they
increase
the
number
every
year.
So.
B
Yeah
all
right,
thank
you
for
clarification,
I
guess
the
applicant
Matt
and
your
team.
Can
you
guys
walk
us
through
how
you
settle
on
that
location
for
that
commercial
and
yeah.
H
I
can't
speak
to
the
landfill
traffic,
try
to
minimize
my
landfill
usage,
but
the
the
Gathering
Place
there's
a
there's
idea
of
a
food
truck
pop-up
things
like
that
there
so
having
it
more
on
that
side
of
the
property
just
helps
provide
for
liveliness
things
like
that.
It's
not
meant
to
be
a
quiet,
Park
area,
so
keeping
it
actually
keeping
it
away
from
the
the
Waterway
we
felt
was
better
gotcha.
B
Okay
and
then,
while
I've
got
you
two,
if
you
could
just
speak
to
there
were
some
concerns
brought
up
by
the
neighbor
Association
about
the
the
building
Heights.
Could
you
just
confirm
for
us?
You
know
the
the
heights
for
the
buildings
and
the
thought
process.
There
I
mean
they're,
all
they're,
all
two-story
buildings,
correct,
correct.
H
Yeah
yeah,
okay
yeah.
We
just
have
a
there's
a
couple
of
Gable
lens
things
like
that,
but
trying
to
get
away
from
more
of
a
flat
roof.
Look
to
tie
in
with
the
mountains
got.
C
O
Florence
with
call
Architects,
100a,
West,
Main,
Street
Boise
Idaho
to
for
going
back
to
the
pop-up
commercial
part
of
the
da
aspect,
is
a
certain
location
of
where
the
pop-up
commercial
is
supposed
to
be
on
the
site
and
so
part
of
that,
as
well
as
part
of
having
the
gathering
area
is
having
it
located
where
the
da
States
it
should
be
located.
As
far
as
the
building
Heights
right
now
we're
Zone
R1
CDA,
we
do
not
go
past.
O
The
building
height
requirements
for
the
city
of
Boise,
with
the
Gable
ends
I
believe
we're
about
eight
inches
below
what
the
requirement
was
so
I'm
trying
to
remember
if
it
was
35
or
30
I
would
have
to
go
back
and
check,
but
we're
just
below
that
and
then
with
the
buildings,
also
being
set
back
more
towards
the
internal
of
the
site.
O
I'm
pretty
far
away
from
the
Solitaire
neighborhood
I'm
close
to
Ben
Street
with
those
buildings,
you'd
still
be
able
to
see
the
Foothills
with
view
lines
and
vision
lines
for
you.
Thank
you
great.
H
And
just
quick
follow-up
to
that
Matt
hufffield,
with
cool
Architects
that
height
that
we
show
is
the
max,
is
at
the
peak,
so
the
bulk
of
the
height
is
actually
significantly
less
than
what
is
required.
You're,
just
the
the
max
height
is
just
at
those
Ridgeline
locations.
So.
B
Gotcha,
thank
you
and
then
to
follow
up
with
staff
Sabrina.
Do
you
agree
about
the
reference
to
the
development
agreement?
The
location
for
the
Gathering
Place?
Does
that
jive
Mr.
G
Chair,
that's
correct.
The
pop-up
space,
the
commercial
space
was
required
to
be
in
that
northwest
corner
the
Gathering
space
wasn't
required
to
be
in
any
certain
area,
but
it
does
kind
of
make
sense
to
have
that
close
to
the
commercial
piece.
Okay,.
B
F
F
That
area
actually
comprises
phase
two
and
phase
three
phase.
One
is
across
the
street
okay,
but
in
other
words,
what
we're
looking
at
is
is
essentially
the
total
of
both
spaces
sort
of
because
we're
seeing
a
rectangle
in
that
phase.
Three
and
maybe
there's
some
other
phase
I'm
missing,
but
there's
a
chunk
of
ground
kind
of
missing
from
this.
G
Mr
chair
commissioner
Danley,
that
is
correct
phase
three
is
just
that
one
parcel
the
roadways
that
are
included
in
phase
two
are
shown
on
the
site
plan
for
context,
but
they're
not
part
of
this
phase.
Okay,.
N
Thanks
that
that
commissioner
danley's
question
is
exactly
my
confusion:
I
was
struggling
to
understand
the
bigger
picture,
and
so
the
question
for
the
this
neighborhood
association
then
is:
has
this
been
handled
already
in
phase
two
that
the
pathway
discussion,
we're
on
that
spoil
Banks
as
well
as
lateral
34.?
So
the
East
West
boils
Banks
and
the
north-south
lateral
34
are
those
proposals
that
you've
seen
already
agreeable
to
the
neighborhood.
I
Thank
you
for
the
question,
commissioner
Mooney.
So
we're
out
of
sequence.
Here
we
haven't
addressed
phase
two
we're
going
directly
to
phase
three
well
phase,
one
and
two
and
were
part
of
the
original
PUD
that
was
passed
by
City
Council
in
2019..
It
has
not
been
Revisited
in
any
public
way
or
hearing
way,
since
so
those
developer
agreements
should
hold
for
the
irrigation,
lateral
number
34,
but
the
applicant
says
they're
going
to
bury
it
regardless.
I
We
don't
know
where
that
easement
for
the
spoils,
Bank
Canal,
how
far
to
the
North
it
goes
on
that
chart
that
map
that
we
saw
with
the
different
colors.
It
may
very
well
be
that
the
easement
is
in
Phase
or
extends
to
phase
three
and
what
we
just
saw.
There
is
phase
three.
That
was
the
first
time
also
I
saw
that
delineated
differently.
I
So
if
we
don't
know
where
that
easement
is
and
the
path
has
to
go
outside
of
the
easement
as
it
did
in
this
other
application,
they
referenced
that
you
passed
earlier
this
year
or
last
year,
then
what
do
we
do?
Then?
We've
allowed
this
development
to
go
through
and
the
pathway
then
will
be
impossible
to
create.
So
that's
why
I
say
we.
We
really
need
to
address
it
now.
N
Thank
you.
Mr
law
and
Mr
Sherry
I
have
a
follow-up
for
the
applicant
peace,
so
addressing
Mr
lowland's
concerns
regarding
the
South
Canal.
Can
you
talk
to
us
about
the
phase
three
and
the
possible
easement
infringement
there
into
this
application
for
phase
two,
and
also
talk
about
the
lateral
34
development
agreement
discussion
where
this
neighborhood
says
you're
going
to
bury
it
and
everything
else
says
otherwise.
H
H
So
I
can't
speak
to
that
the
lateral
again,
that's
that's
part
of
another
phase
of
the
project.
Ours
goes
to
the
property
line
and
that
is
outside
of
our
property
line.
So
again,
that's
part
of
phase
two
of
this,
which
is
outside
of
our
scope
of
work.
F
Mr,
chairman
I'm,
just
going
to
ask
the
question,
so
it's
just
staff
I
mean
to
the
neighborhood
association's
concern.
Are
we
confident
that
we
have
all
of
our
lines
straight
and
we
know
easement,
widths
and
and
buffers
and
all
of
the
things
that
the
neighborhood
association
is
is
requesting
and
for
the
treatment
of
the
spoil
Banks
Canal
I
mean?
Are
we
100
sure
of
all
that.
G
N
For
Sabrina
for
staff,
so
I
guess
I
am
in
our
packet.
Do
we
have
a
good
depiction
of
what
council's
already
approved
for
an
East-West
pathway,
multi-use
path
in
accordance
to
the
pathways
plan,
because
the
pathways
plan
wasn't
around
was
passed.
N
Sure
I'm
sorry
I
I'm,
just
trying
to
I,
couldn't
find
in
the
packet
the
the
answer
to
the
questions
that
the
neighbors
are
raising
the
neighborhood
association
regarding
the
canal,
the
East-West
canal,
and
how
to
protect
that
and
how
to
employ
employ
the
Boise
Pathways
plan,
which
wasn't
in
wasn't
obviously
an
issue
in
2019
when
this
passed.
So
the
question
is:
where
are
those
lines?
What
is
the
protection
for
a
multi-use
path
on
the
south
parcel
line,
going
East-West
to
the
lateral
34.?
N
G
Sorry
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
there
is
a
common
lot
that
does
surround
the
canal,
so
if
there
were
to
be
a
pathway
in
the
future,
that's
likely
where
it
would
go.
That
would
require
some
coordination
with
the
irrigation
companies
that
likely
have
easements
over
that
property,
but
that
would
be
in
place
in
that
common
law.
Not
on
this
subject:
parcel
okay,
great.
N
Can
you
just
so
I
can
look
at
it
closer?
Can
you
reference
to
it
in
our
packet.
F
Mr
chair
just
an
observation.
It
looks
as
though
on
the
map
that
was
in
front
of
us
a
minute
ago
that
common
lot
does
look
to
be
depicted
and
it
does
look
to
be
in
terms
of
width
well
into
you
know,
era
completely
in
tile
in
inside
of
phase
I'm
gonna
get
it
just
mixed
up
space
too
yeah,
but
not
really
near
phase
three.
B
K
I
have
concerns
about
the
pathways
as
well,
but
it
doesn't
based
on
what
we're
looking
at
tonight.
It
doesn't
look
like
we
have
control
over
the
land
along
the
canal
in
tonight's
project,
right.
K
Phase
three,
which
is
tonight's
project,
yeah
I,
guess
I,
just
wanted
to
kind
of
confirm
that,
just
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
that
correctly
staff's
nodding
their
heads
so
I'm
sure
we'll
see
a
future
project
that
will
include
what
we
need
to
know
about
the
pathway
space
and
we
can
at
that
point
add
whichever
conditions
are
appropriate
to
preserve
the
space
around
the
canal.
But
I
don't
see
that
as
really
attached
to
the
land
that
we're
discussing
tonight.
N
To
commissioner
sted's
comments,
then
so
the
the
only
issue
the
neighborhood
had
was
the
possibility
of
that
easement
infringing
into
the
south
portion
of
phase
three
and
are
we
assured
that?
That's
not
the
case.
That's
since,
since
that
aerial
map
is
the
first
we've
seen
in
the
record,
we
didn't
get
a
chance
to
review
that
until
tonight.
So
that's.
Why
we're
all
confused.
G
Yeah
Mr
chair
Commissioners
that
easement
typically
they're
around
30
to
50
feet
on
either
side
of
a
canal.
There's
the
common
lot
and
the
road
between
the
canal
and
the
subject
parcel
that
we're
looking
at
today.
Okay,.
B
Yeah
I
think,
commissioner
stead
summarize
it
pretty
well
it's
you
know.
We
have
the
assurances
from
staff
that
the
preliminary
plot
indicates
that
that
space
is
there
for
the
pathway,
but
we
don't
have
anything
graphically
in
our
packet
tonight.
That
indicates
that
that's
the
challenge
and
then
we're
talking
about
a
future
phase
right,
a
different
phase
of
the
project.
B
B
All
right,
we've
thought:
I've
lost
my
screen.
B
Hang
up,
there's
John,
okay,
Final
Call
for
questions
we're
good
there.
Okay,
all
right!
Okay,
we'll
go
ahead
then,
and
move
on
to
public
testimony
on
this
item,
we'll
start
with
the
folks
that
are
here
in
person,
we'd
have
a
few
folks
sign
up
as
well:
Dan
Black
and
Kathy
Buchanan.
B
Maybe
if
you
all
want
to
come
up,
if
you
want
to
testify
tonight,
come
on
up
here
to
the
podium,
please-
and
everyone
will
have
three
minutes
to
testify
on
this
item
and
then
once
we
get
through
the
folks
that
are
in
person
we'll
move
to
the
folks
that
are
online.
B
Yeah,
just
before
we
get
started
here,
real,
quick
too,
just
the
point
of
clarification.
We're
really
only
talking
about
the
application.
That's
before
us
tonight,
so
the
multi-family
project,
that's
on
the
proposal
tonight
in
phase
three
of
the
project
and
again
I
want
to
start
testifying.
Here.
You
have
three
minutes,
and
please
start
with
your
name
and
address
okay.
Just
come
on
up.
L
My
name
is
Dan
Black
I
live
at
8
000
Duncan
Lane.
Would
it
be
possible
to
bring
up
the
aerial
view
of
The
Proposal
yeah.
L
Okay,
this
this
is
a
this-
is
a
very
old
aerial
view.
It
looks
like
to
me-
maybe
not
no
I
get
I,
guess
that
looks
fairly
current,
so
I've
lived
at
8,
000
Duncan
Lane
for
a
little
over
33
years
now,
and
my
main
concern
here
is:
there's
been
some
slippage.
If
that's
the
right
word
on
what
the
applicant
wants,
as
it
was
pointed
out
earlier,
this
body
turned
down
the
application.
L
It
was
a
last
year
year
before
maybe
it
was
appealed
to
the
city
council.
They
approved
the
application
for
phase
three
to
have
three
two-story
apartment
complexes,
and
now
the
proposal
is
six
two-story
apartment
complexes.
B
I'm
sorry,
he
didn't
you
can
pose
the
question
here,
but
he
can't
answer
directly
at
this
time.
Okay,.
L
Because
Mike,
let
me
let
me
point
out
where
I
am
on
this
one
on
one
of
your
previous
aerial
photos.
It
showed
part
of
the
area
phase
two
in
in
blue.
Can
that
one
be
brought
up
again?
L
Okay,
so
my
place
as
well
as
my
good
neighbor,
the
Smithy
family,
we're
surrounded
by
phase
two
there
so
on
the
north
is
phase
two
on
the
south.
Is
this
oils
Bank
Canal
on
the
west
is
Duncan
Lane
on
the
East?
Is
the
other
part
of
phase
two
so
that
that's
the
that's
the
neighborhood
there
I
guess?
My
question
is:
is
concerning
the
traffic
as
I?
L
Look
at
phase
three
I'm
wondering
if
cars
from
phase
three
will
be
able
to
eventually
travel
through
phase
two
to
get
to
Duncan
Lane,
because
if
they
can
then
they're
all
going
to
proceed
down,
Duncan
Lane
100
feet
and
take
a
a
Westward
turn
through
the
other
subdivision
to
get
to
the
Winco,
Food,
Stores
and
Home,
Depot
and
so
forth,
and
so,
while
I'm
concerned
about
the
traffic
that
I'm
going
to
be
suggest,
subjected
to
I'm,
also
concerned
about
a
lot
of
our
other
neighbors
who
have
made
the
choice,
maybe
not
to
have
an
acreage
like
we
do,
but
to
live
in
a
quiet,
residential
subdivision
which
won't
be
so
quiet.
L
D
L
B
P
Chairman
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Kathy
Buchanan
I
live
at
7565
North
Misty
Cove
Avenue,
which
is
in
the
neighborhood
immediately
adjacent
to
the
spoil
Banks
Canal
to
the
South
in
the
interest
of
time,
and
because
I've
already
submitted
my
comments,
I
will
simply
say:
I,
don't
believe
the
project
warrants
approval
at
this
time
it
seems
like
there
are
a
lot
more
questions
and
answers.
There's
a
lot
to
get
wrapped
around
one's
head
wrapped
around
this
project
and
I
think
to
isolate
it.
P
Even
though
it's
I
understand
that
there's
not
another
phase
on
the
table,
I
think
I
have
to
Echo
Richard
lillins
comments
about.
We
can
lose
an
opportunity
here
that
we
won't
be
able
to
re
recoup.
P
B
Okay,
anybody
else,
so
they
Testify
the
podium
is
free.
Please
come
on
up.
B
Q
There
is
plans
for
a
fire
department
on
the
corner
of
Bogart
and
State
Street,
but
that's
not
for
a
few
years,
there's
tons
of
Apartments
being
developed
and
built
on
State
Street,
and
we
personally
were
involved
in
a
fire
October
6th
2021.
Q
Q
It
was
not
a
good
experience
where
there's
lots
of
Apartments
going
up
and
housing.
There's
Tim
there's
tend
to
be
other
virus
to
happen,
and
it
would
be
really
appreciative.
This
was
not
approved
because
we
need
to
have
proper
prior
coverage
and
it
doesn't
extend
just
to
our
neighborhood.
It
goes
east
of
us
too,
because
Hollister
and
Pierce
Park
that
part
for
fire
coverage
too.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
R
R
So
I
want
you
to
really
consider
that,
because
it
is
going
to
be
a
big
problem
and
I
think
that
is
probably
the
most
I
think
that's.
The
biggest
problem
is:
where
are
these
people
going
to
park?
If
there's
six
buildings,
it
was
going
to
be
bad
enough
with
just
two
buildings
with
six
is
going
to
be
a
nightmare.
D
J
My
name
is
Bill
Smithy
I
live
at
8152,
Duncan
Lane,
we
bought
our
property
and
first
of
all,
I
would
say
that
I
I
support
everything
that
Dan
Black
said,
he's
my
neighbor
and
he
says
it
well.
We
bought
our
property
in
2017
when
we
bought
it.
Our
understanding
about
the
zoning
was
a
whole
lot
less.
We
have
seen
a
big
up.
Zone
take
place
our
property,
our
one
acre
property,
is
surrounded
by
rural
Farmland.
J
At
this
point,
we
bought
the
property
because
of
that,
my
my
question
has
always
been
about
this
project.
Is
you
know?
How
could
this
happen
that
this
up
Zone
took
place?
That's
a
whole
other
issue
and
we're
we're
working
on
that,
but
I
just
think
that
the
there's
too
many
unanswered
questions
the
parking,
the
fire
issues,
the
you
know
the
canal
issues.
J
B
If
anybody
really
testify
okay,
we
have
a
few
folks
that
have
hands
up
online,
we'll
go
ahead
and
check
in
with
those
folks,
I
see
Bruce
mastorovich,
Dennis,
Dunn
and
Erica
Scofield.
S
I
can
umich
I
live
at
450,
West,
Grove,
Street
I
think
it
looks
like
a
pretty
okay
project.
Just
I
know
I
don't
want
to
go
back
to
the
I
know.
We've
talked
about
the
aerial
photo
a
million
times,
but
I
think
you
can
clearly
see.
There
are
houses
that
are
closer
on
the
same
side
of
the
Canal.
Then
these
apartments
would
be
so
I'm
a
little
confused
about
that.
B
Okay,
great
thanks
next
we're
from
Dennis
Dunn.
C
C
I'm
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
neighborhood
plan
three
minutes,
and
this
is
something
that
literally
reflected
thousands
upon
thousands
of
hours
to
get
the
plan
in
place
and
a
frustration
for
us
is
that
this
whole
development
started
before
our
plan
was
what
was
even
finished.
C
But
our
whole
position
is
that
we
wanted
to
engage
the
influence,
so
we
committed
spent
two
years
of
our
lives
really
putting
this
thing
together
and,
yes,
it
has
been
adopted
by
the
city.
Thank
you
for
that
one
question,
and-
and
we
are
not
anti-development
as
a
neighborhood,
but
we
we,
but
we
absolutely
want
responsible
development.
Fire
and
safety
has
been
a
concern
and
that's
been
voiced
and,
and
unfortunately,
we
have
witnessed
it
and
this
development
with
this
density
really
with
the
Wildland
fire
Urban
interface.
C
There
is
just
really,
quite
frankly,
not
appropriate.
It's
just
not
appropriate
a
huge
piece
that
the
neighbors
all
spoke
to
was
the
spoil
Banks
canal
and
and
its
accessibility,
and
in
doing
our
research
and
again
thousands
and
thousands
of
hours.
I
believe
that
School
Banks
Canal
is
a
part
of
the
drainage
District
number
two.
It's
also
my
belief
that
that
the
easement
is
but
is
a
hundred
feet
and
this
evening,
with
all
due
respect,
statements
have
been
made
around
easements
about
their
normally
this
or
normally
that
I
know
you're.
C
Looking
at
something
that's
phase
three,
but
all
of
this
connects
together
and
I.
Don't
know
that
there's
actually
real
specific
clarity
about
exactly
what
the
easements
are
and
where
this
project
aligns
would
be
relative
to
that
easement.
So
I
really
think
that
there's
a
pause
for
a
concern
here
and
again.
I
really
appreciate.
C
We've
worked
with
this
with
this
body,
and
we
have
found
you
to
be
responsible
and
responsive
and
I
really
think
that
there's
enough
in
front
of
you
to
be
con
to
kind
of
raise
the
flag
of
concern
relative
to
the
issue
of
the
spoil
Banks
canal
and
the
easement
and
accessibility
and
really
the
phase
three
one.
C
Two
and
three
really
all
are
are
in
this
together
and
the
impact
is
gonna
on
on
the
neighborhood
and
traffic
has
been
addressed
right
feeling
rushed
here,
but
we
have
real
concerns
about
the
safety
there.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening
and
again
when
this
project
was
was
originally
approved.
It
was
conceptual
by
city
council.
C
That's
why
there
needs
to
be
a
PUD
at
this
level,
so
yeah
I
believe
that
that's
the
the
bulk
of
what
I
wanted
wanted
to
cover
and
again
I
think
you
have
some
very
clear
concerns
and
issues
with
with
the
easement,
as
relates
to
small
bank's
Canal.
Thank
you.
T
Erica
Schofield
7363
West
Limelight,
Court
Boise.
It
has
now
been
more
than
20
times
and
six
consecutive
years
that
I
will
be
providing
public
testimony
to
advocate
for
equal
taxpayer
fund
and
protection
for
the
Northwest
neighborhood
where
I
reside.
This
area
of
the
city
is
now
in
its
35th
year
of
development
applications
being
approved
based
on
Promises
of
an
additional
fire
station
in
the
Northwest
planning
area.
This
Record
goes
all
the
way
back
to
1988,
with
the
applications
for
developing
the
Quail
Ridge
Subdivision.
These
promises
have
never
been
kept
by
the
city.
T
The
decision
before
you
tonight
can
repeat
this
long-standing
failure,
or
you
can
prevent
this
from
happening
again.
Facing
approval
of
this
application
on
the
issuing
of
building
permits
for
a
fire
station
will
simply
be
the
same
charade.
Setting
the
stage
for
the
continued
failure
of
ensuring
the
required
infrastructure
is
actually
built
versus
just
saying
or
believing
it
will
be
built.
T
Regarding
the
letter
in
your
packet
from
the
Boise
fire
department,
it
only
pertains
to
issues
related
to
the
international
fire
code
and
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
department
indicating
their
position
on
approving
this
application
or,
if
it
meets
the
required
conditions
of
approval
recorded
in
the
development
agreement
directly
pertaining
to
the
multi-family
apartment.
Complex
I
state
that,
because
sometimes
that
letter
has
been
substituted
for
other
issues
regarding
fire
response,
the
prior
commission
denied
this
development
based
in
part
on
the
lack
of
a
Boise
fire
station
to
serve
this
area.
T
In
compliance
with
the
adopted
level
of
service
response,
standard
set
forth
in
ordinance,
5517
and
the
development
impact
the
ordinance,
this
commission
will
be
disregarding
Public,
Safety
and
continuing
the
long-standing
issue
of
allowing
development
based
on
words
on
paper.
If
you'll
approve
this
tonight,
I
respectfully
request
that
this
permit
be
denied
and
not
brought
forward
again
until
the
construction
for
the
fire
station
at
the
corner
of
Bogart
and
State.
Street
is
actually
underway
for
your
consideration
of
this
very
serious
public
safety
issue.
Thank
you.
B
B
M
I
moved
to
approve
PUD
22-63,
along
with
the
recommended
and
standard
conditions
of
approval
and
for
all
the
reasons
as
outlined
in
the
staff
report.
Second,
okay:.
B
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
by
commissioner
pinfrock
and
a
motion
to
Second
by
commissioner
stead.
Do
you
know
I'm
going
to
start
with
some
discussion.
M
Yes
thanks,
so
this
the
cup
complies
with
the
additional
conditions
of
approval
that
were
outlined
in
the
development
agreement
for
the
multi-family
apartment
conditions
and
though
they
were
very
specific
and
so
I
think
what's
in
front
of
us
right
now
is
that
particular
cup
and
so
I
think
that's
what
we
have
to
decide.
Everything
on
and-
and
you
know,
the
cup
addresses
phase
three
and
after
phase
three,
it
complies
with
the
conditions
for
the
Dell
development
agreement
as
to
dwelling
units
stories
and
Heights,
and
it
complies
with
all
the
required
dimensional
standards.
M
So,
as
the
public
comment,
you
know
to
the
traffic
issues,
we
look
to
achd
to
comment
and
they
approve
the
project.
I
agree
with
the
fire
coverage.
M
I
remember
when
this
came
in
front
of
us
several
years
back
and
we
discussed
it
and
as
it
was
stated
from
the
applicant
today,
they
have
to
have
those
building
permits
before
that
I
mean
again
it's
outlined
in
the
development
agreement
and
it
pretty
much
just
says
that
the
building
permits
will
not
be
allowed
until
construction
of
the
fire
station
is
underway,
and
so
I
think
we
have
to
rely
on
that.
M
You
know
the
as
far
as
the
canal
issues
and
the
multi,
the
paths
and
everything
I
do
think
we
can
address
that
in
a
different
phase.
I
just
don't
think
it's
appropriate
appropriate
for
phase
three
so
for
those
Reasons
I'm.
Just
in
support
of
approval
of
this
application.
B
K
I
I
support
the
motion
for
the
same
reasons
outlined
by
commissioner
finprock
I
had
the
same
notes
that
the
building
permits
won't
be
issued
until
the
fire
station
has
started
construction,
so
I
think
that
that's
a
that
that
helps
that
helps,
support
and
hopefully
give
some
peace
to
the
neighborhood
too,
because
I
can
imagine
that
must
have
been
a
very
scary
situation
that
you
experienced
in
2021,
with
the
fire
and
Boise
not
showing
up,
but
hopefully
that
will
be
resolved.
K
I
also
agree
about
the
pathways.
We
are
all
up
here,
very
passionate
about
Pathways.
K
K
A
lot
of
neighbors
chose
this
area
for
the
Serenity
and
the
quiet,
and
hopefully
your
new
neighbors
will
choose
the
neighborhood
for
similar
reasons,
and
they
will
add
to
your
community
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
fear
out
there
around
this
project
and
and
I
I'm,
hoping
that
years
from
now,
when
we
come
back
at
all,
it
will
have
added
to
the
neighborhood
culture
instead
of
detracted
from
it.
B
F
I'm
going
to
be
voting
in
support
of
the
motion,
but
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
say.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
say
thank
you
to
the
neighbors
Association
they're,
always
very,
very
prepared
and
no
difference
today.
Unfortunately,
the
map
that
is
in
front
of
us
up
here
simply
just
was
not
included
in
our
packet,
and
that
was
the
confusion.
F
I
think
all
of
us
had
we
worked
through
the
process
and
I
think
have
the
answers
that
we
need.
One
thing
is
I
want
to
point
out
with
respect
to
the
pathways.
This
is
a
city
that
embarked
on
a
Pathways
plan
and
I
think
to
Mr
Lowell's
point.
This
particular
pathway
is
ranked
in
the
top
ten
and
I
I
know.
F
Over
the
last
few
years
we
have
done
every
single
thing
we
possibly
can,
including
pushing
back
on
many
many
developers
to
ensure
the
plan
that
we
have
is
implemented
a
number
of
times
on
State,
Street
included,
so
I'm
glad
that
that
issue
was
brought
to
our
attention
tonight.
I
think
it
has
been
resolved
and
I'm,
confident
that
this
is
a
city
and
I
know
that
this
is
a
commission
that
is
definitely
interested
in
making
certain
that
this
happens.
One
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
in
the
neighborhood
plan
itself
on
page
18.
F
is
the
land
use
map
of
the
city
that
is
from
2011.
and
the
property
that
we're
looking
at?
Has
a
large
brown
swath
on
it?
Labeled
compact
and
it
goes
all
the
way
to
State
Street,
that's
a
basically
a
future
land
use
map
now
zoning
is,
is
some
there's
some
twists
and
things
that
have
to
happen
there.
But
the
broader
point
is
that
map
has
been
in
place
for
the
better
part
of
now,
what
12,
13
years
and
and
before
that,
showing
the
general
direction
that
the
properties
in
this
vicinity
are
are
likely
to
take.
F
This
commission
I
know,
however,
long
ago
recommend
denial
of
the
rezone,
but
the
city
council
overturned
that
and
that's
their
authority
to
do
that.
We're
a
recommending
body
in
that
particular
instance
and
so
I
think
that's
that
was
their
direction
to
follow
the
plan
that
is
memorialized
in
the
comp
plan,
as
well
as
the
neighborhood
plan
and
has
been
for
since
2011.
I.
Just
think.
It's
important
to
to
point
that
out
that
that's
not
necessarily
a
major
surprise
there.
F
B
N
I
will
also
be
in
support
of
the
motion
based
on
all
the
comments.
Commissioners
are
already
made
to
add
some
additional
stuff
regarding
Mr
Black's
comments
about
traffic
out
of
phase
three
going
into
future
phase
two
and
then
over
to
Duncan.
N
Just
like
the
canal
issue,
feasibly,
we
will
be
able
to
tackle
that
appropriately
when
phase
two
comes
before
us.
Fire
has
already
been
talked
about.
Parking's
already
been
talked
about,
96
units,
150
parking
spaces,
I
believe
that's
reasonable
and
the
canal
is
an
issue.
I
was
leaning
towards
as
I
was
looking
through
the
packet
that
the
site's
not
large
enough
for
all
those
reasons.
N
Because
of
the
confusion
regarding
what
we
were
looking
at
phase
two
phase
three
and
the
aerial
map
that
we
saw
tonight
for
the
first
time
helped
clear
that
up,
but
caused
a
lot
of
consternation,
obviously
reading
through
the
record
in
the
project
report.
But
we
worked
it
out.
As
commissioner
Danley
said,
I'll
be
in
support
of
the
motion.
B
Chime
in
real
quick
I'll,
also
be
in
support
of
the
motion.
I
certainly
agree
with
all
the
previous
comments.
The
commission's
made
here
about
the
application.
B
It
was
it's
very
clear
in
our
packet
what
the
phase
three
boundary
is
for
this
project.
Unfortunately,
the
packet
doesn't
clearly
very
clearly
indicate
where
phase
two
is
so
that's
something
that
we
obviously
work
through
I
think
we
were
able
to
get
assurances
from
staff
that
the
space
is
there
within
the
pre-plat
and
the
previous
approvals
that
the
pathway
will
most
certainly
be
a
reality
and
will
happen
within
that
phase
too.
B
My
only
other
comment,
I
think
to
staff,
is
when
phase
two
does
come
around
for
this
body
to
review
I
think
we
would
like
to
see
phase
three
boundary
included
in
that
application,
so
we
have
a
clear
picture
of
how
all
these
pieces
get
put
together
and
to
the
public.
Thank
you
all
for
attending
tonight
and
giving
us
your
testimony.
We
certainly
understand
the
concerns
regarding
growth
and
development
throughout
the
whole
city.
B
Here
that
we
assure,
let
me
assure
you,
though,
there's
other
opportunities
as
this
development
moves
to
the
process,
that
there
will
be
other
opportunities
to
voice
your
concerns
and
make
sure
that
all
of
the
eyes
are
being
dotted
and
T's
are
being
crossed.
If
you
want
to
think
of
it
that
way.
So
with
that
again,
I'll
be
supporting
the
motion
and
unless
there's
any
other
further
comment,
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
the
roll
okay.
Again,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
by
commissioner
finfrock
in
a
second
by
commissioner
stead.