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A
Boise
City
Planning
and
Zoning
commission
public
hearing
a
few
things
to
start
out
with
for
tonight's
proceedings.
Everyone
from
the
public
entering
the
hearing
virtually
has
been
automatically
muted
and
cannot
speak
as
the
item
you're
interested
in
comes
up
for
discussion,
you'll
be
called
upon
and
muted.
There
is
a
chat
function
in
Zoom.
This
is
not
part
of
the
record
and
should
only
be
used
if
technical
difficulties
arise.
A
Our
procedures
for
public
hearing
begin
with
a
presentation
from
the
planning
team,
then
we'll
go
to
the
applicant
and
then
the
representative
of
the
registered
neighborhood
association,
followed
by
questions
from
the
commission.
After
that,
we
proceed
the
public
testimony,
starting
with
those
who
are
in
person,
then
those
who
signed
up
on
the
sign
up
sheet
in
advance
and
then
anyone
else
who
raises
their
hand
virtually
if
you
are
attending
through
your
telephone,
you
can
type
in
Star
9.
To
raise
your
hand,
each
member
of
the
public
has
allowed
up
to
three
minutes
for
Testimony.
A
B
C
D
B
B
All
right,
let's
give
this
a
go.
Any
decision
made
tonight
may
be
appealed
to
the
city
council,
provided
that
the
appeal
is
filed
within
10
days
of
this
hearing.
In
order
to
file
an
appeal
you
must
have
given
written
or
oral
testimony
to
tonight's
meeting.
That's
why
it's
important
to
give
your
name
and
address
when
you
testify
tonight.
B
We
utilize
a
consent
agenda.
This
means
that
if
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
staff
report
and
if
there
is
no
public
opposition,
the
item
will
be
placed
on
the
consent
agenda.
All
items
that
are
placed
on
the
consent
agenda
are
approved
with
one
motion.
Without
further
public
comment
for
items
not
on
the
consent
agenda,
we
will
hold
a
full
public
Hearing
in
the
order
just
detailed
a
few
minutes
ago
with
staffed
applicant
neighborhood
association
and
then
the
public
testimony.
G
B
Thank
you.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
do
a
little
bit
of
housekeeping
here
to
begin
tonight.
We've
got
a
few
items
eligible
for
the
consent
agenda
and
for
but
first
we'll
start
with
a
deferral
request.
So
item
number
four:
is
car
22-34,
it's
pivot,
North
architecture
at
672,
South,
Ash
Street.
This
is
a
rezone
request
from
on
0.87
Acres
from
roddd
to
C5
DD
with
a
d
a
they
are
requesting
deferral
to
January
9th.
D
B
I
B
Thank
you
next
to
a
few
items
eligible
for
consent.
The
first
of
those
items
is
item
number
three.
This
is
PUD
22-44
Michael
Civic.
The
address
is
3403
North
Maple,
Grove
Road.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development.
Comprised
of
five
multi-family
units
on
0.35
acres
and
an
r2d
zone
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
B
B
B
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit,
for
a
height
exception,
associated
with
an
addition
to
the
Boise
Airport
campus
on
453
acres
in
a
c3d
Zone
and
the
applicant
is
present
and
are
you
in
agreement
with
the
terms
and
conditions
of
the
staff
report?
Okay,
great?
Let
the
record
show
that
the
applicant
is
present
in
an
agreement
with
the
staff
report.
Is
there
anyone
in
attendance
tonight
hoping
to
testify
in
opposition.
C
B
B
Okay,
very
good,
we'll
go
ahead
and
place
item
number
five
on
the
consent
agenda
and
last,
but
not
at
least
for
consent.
Consideration
is
item
number
six
CVA,
22-30,
Amy,
our
all
guy
or
architect.
The
address
is
1311
North,
10th
Street.
This
is
a
variance
request
to
encroach
into
the
side
setback
for
residential
Edition
on
a
substandard
lot
on
.07
acres
in
an
R1
CH
zone
is
the
applicant
present
tonight.
B
B
D
B
Thank
you
all.
We
will
go
ahead
now
and
return
to
the
top
of
our
agenda
to
hear
item
number
one.
This
is
PUD
22-47
and
CVA.
22-26
gglo
is
the
applicant.
This
item
was
deferred
from
our
November
14th.
Hearing
project
address
is
6160
West,
Denton
Street.
This
is
a
conditional
use
permit
for
a
planned
residential
development
comprised
of
201
multi-family
units
and
a
height
exception
on
2.08
acres
and
LOD
d-a
Zone
there's
also
a
variance
request
to
encroach
into
the
side
yard
setback.
We
will
start
with
staff
and
hear
from
Jesse
Lyle
Mr
chairman.
J
B
K
K
K
L
Yeah
well
Mr
chair
members
of
the
commission,
dining
before
you
is
PUD
22-47
and
CBA
22-26.
This
is
an
application
for
a
pran
residential
development
comprised
of
201
multi-family
units
located
on
2.08
Acres
at
6160,
Denton
Street
and
an
LOD
D.A
Zone,
a
height
exception,
and
a
variance
to
encroach
into
the
side
setback
is
also
included.
L
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
provide
housing
at
rates
between
30
percent
and
80
Ami
and
wishes
to
utilize.
The
housing
bonus
ordinance
to
increase
the
density
and
height
and
to
utilize
a
15
parking
reduction.
The
HBO
does
not
limit
density,
allows
for
a
height
increase
from
45
to
55
feet
and
allows
for
up
to
a
20
parking
reduction.
L
The
building
proposed
has
a
primary
parapet
at
55
feet
and
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
height
exception
to
61
feet
to
accommodate
the
elevator
and
mechanical
equipment.
Our
head
exceptions
still
allow
or
the
allows
for
additional
50
units.
On
the
top
floor
with
the
proposed
mix
of
units,
this
development
requires
231
parking
spaces.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
provide
197
parking
spaces
at
a
15
reduction
under
the
26
Allowed
by
the
HBO.
L
The
parking
will
be
primarily
provided
internal
to
the
building.
The
subject.
Property
is
also
located
less
than
500
feet
from
a
bus
stop
on
the
Emerald
Street
route.
The
applicant
is
also
providing
208
covered,
secure,
bicycle
spaces.
A
condition
of
accrual
will
require
the
applicant
to
provide
bike
parking
for
guests
near
the
main
entrance
as
well.
The
applicant
is
providing
open
space
and
amenities
and
an
internal
Courtyard
on
the
second
level,
with
Landscaping
a
playground
Gathering
space
and
private
patios.
L
The
applicant
is
requesting
a
variance
to
the
West
Side
setback.
The
Proposal
is
to
allow
the
building
to
encroach
up
to
the
property
line
in
order
to
accommodate
additional
units.
There
is
an
exceptional
circumstance
with
the
property
if
there
is
a
25
foot
wide
common
lot
to
the
West
that
includes
an
existing
pedestrian
pathway.
This
effectively
provides
a
buffering
to
the
adjacent
property
to
the
West.
A
recommended
condition
of
approval
will
require
the
applicant
to
provide
enhanced
landscaping
and
screening
on
the
west
side
of
the
building
in
order
to
maintain
a
comfortable
pedestrian
environment.
L
L
If
approved,
the
variance
will
allow
for
the
building
to
encroach
into
the
West
Side
step
back
adjacent
to
the
Detention
Center.
However,
there
is
still
a
buffer
of
at
least
50
feet
between
the
building
and
Detention
Center
fence.
Additionally,
windows
and
balconies
on
the
west
side
are
recessed
into
the
building.
As
seen
on
the
screen,
achg
has
reviewed
this
project
and
determined
that
the
existing
Street
Network
can
support
the
development
and
the
proposed
number
of
parking
spaces
are
allowed
through
the
code.
M
Good
evening
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Sheldon
Rodriguez
with
SMR
development,
520,
West,
Idaho
Street
here
in
Boise.
Thank
you
for
having
us
and
thank
you
Jesse
and
PBS
staff
for
the
very
thorough
presentation
and
the
great
staff
report.
So
I've
read
it
I'm
sure
you
have
and
I
won't
spend
a
lot
of
time
repeating
the
things
on
the
that
you
have
in
your
packet.
So
for
starters,
I'm
representing
the
Pacific
companies,
Hawkins
companies
and
then
gglo
was
the
lead
architect
on
this.
We
were
initially
scheduled
for
November.
M
M
The
Pacific
companies
in
Hawkins
worked
to
create
an
mou
to
get
the
site
under
control
under
control,
went
through
pre-development
design.
Neighborhood
meetings
got
some
funding,
committed
applications
submitted
back
in
June,
and
here
we
are
aiming
for
Planning
and
Zoning
approval,
hoping
to
get
State
financed
by
the
end
of
this
year.
It's
a
little
to
be
determined,
but
we're
hoping
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
can
get
the
funding
moving
forward
with
a
permit
as
early
as
this
summer
with
an
18-month
construction
period.
M
There's
a
lot
of
information
on
the
slide.
I
won't
spend
too
much
time
on
it,
but
the
important
piece
is
that
this
is
from
the
city's
housing
needs
assessment
that
I
mentioned
there's
over
860
units
that
are
needed
annually
for
families
earning
between
30
and
60
Ami,
with
an
additional
460
units
needed
annually
for
families
earning
between
61
and
80
Ami,
roughly
18
000
a
year
up
to
75
000
a
year
depending
on
the
family
size,
and
those
are
the
folks
that
we'll
be
serving
in
this
development.
M
You'll
see
and
Jesse
mentioned
some
of
the
neighborhood
comments.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
the
quote
at
the
bottom.
If
you
take
a
second
to
read
it
because
it
was
from
the
needs,
assessment
and
I
think
it
speaks
very
clearly
to
what
both
the
planning
director
and
some
of
the
comments
that
you'll
you'll
hear
tonight
speak
to.
M
M
I
will
go
through
these
quickly
because
you
saw
them
in
your
report
and
on
the
previous
presentation
ground
floor
is
Podium
parking
to
just
about
200
spaces.
197..
On
the
east
side,
you've
got
some
office,
we're
hoping
to
put
a
daycare
in
there.
We
heard
that
from
the
neighbors
as
well
as
a
Lobby
fitness
center
and
some
bike,
indoor
bike
storage.
M
M
M
This
is
from
the
cul-de-sac
at
the
end
of
Denton,
looking
towards
the
stairwell
that
goes
to
the
second
floor
amenity
space,
so
we
would
be
essentially
standing
at
the
corner
of
Liberty
Park.
Looking
to
the
towards
the
development,
a
request,
I
think
the
staff
outlined
it
very
well,
essentially,
there's
some
slight
height
exceptions,
three
feet
above
the
55
foot
Max
in
specific
places,
as
well
as
the
six
feet.
Above
for
the
elevator
overrun.
You
won't
be
able
to
see
that
six
feet
from
very
many
angles:
the
variants
along
the
side
yard.
M
M
I
heard
a
lot
of
concerns
both
in
the
public
comments
that
were
made
and
that
are
in
your
packet
as
well
as
in
our
neighborhood
meetings.
Most
of
them
were
mentioned
Building
height
and
scale,
low-income
housing
parking
needs
and
increased
traffic
desire
for
neighborhood,
retail
or
day
care.
So
we
did
try
to
address
some
of
those
things.
Obviously
we
can't
address
all
of
them.
M
There's
been
a
recent
letter
submitted
from
our
neighbor,
the
juvenile
detention
center
and
I
I
had
reached
out
to
them,
and
I
am
excited
and
looking
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
them
as
our
neighbor.
But
to
date
we
haven't
been
able
to
touch
base.
I
just
got
the
the
letter
this
past
week
just
a
few
days
ago.
M
This
slide
touches
on
I
think
it's
very
similar
to
the
one
you
saw
in
staff's
presentation,
but
you
can
see
on
the
picture
to
the
far
right,
there's
25
feet
between
our
proposed
building
site,
with
a
zero
lot
line
or
a
zero
setback
to
the
fence
that
the
juvenile
detention
center
has.
You
can
see
in
the
bottom,
it's
a
chain
link
fence
and
then
there's
additional
25
feet
on
the
opposite
side,
as
well
as
25
feet
of
their
yard.
M
So
it's
essentially
75
feet
from
where
our
proposed
building
would
be
to
their
building
or
their
current.
Currently
stands.
Additional
screening
and
additional
bike
racks
were
requested
in
the
condition
of
approval.
We
agree
with
those
we've
worked
to.
Glo
has
worked
to
try
to
help
design
them.
So
we
look
forward
to
working
with
staff
to
meet
those
conditions.
M
N
G
G
So
who
we
are
we're
the
Liberty
Park
neighborhood
association,
and
we
we
know
that
affordable
housing
is
important.
We
agree
with
that
assessment.
Our
neighborhood
has
a
high
percentage
of
low-income
families
about
76
percent.
We
have
the
highest
rate
of
any
neighborhood
in
Boise.
We,
the
median
household
income,
is
around
35
000..
Other
parts
of
Boise
are
at
fifty
five
thousand.
G
We
have
a
large
number
of
renters
at
Liberty
Park
in
our
area.
76
percent
of
our
housing
units
are
renter
occupied
so
and
we
are
a
very
extremely
diverse
neighborhood.
We
have
just
about
every
nationality,
Age
religion,
so
we're
and
we're
a
good
Community.
We
we
are
a
community
as
a
neighborhood
that
consists
predominantly
rental
property.
We
have
no
aversion
to
additional
rental
housing
property
to
be
built
in
our
neighborhood.
G
G
The
need
that
we
see
in
our
community
is
for
more
family
growing
units,
because
the
developer
is
trying
to
maximize
their
profit
as
any
business.
Would
they
have
opted
for
more
single
tenant
units
instead
of
family
housing,
and
it
seems
as
if
that
type
of
a
building
would
better
suit
an
area
closer
to
BSU
than
at
St
else.
We
have
had
a
couple
of
meetings
with
the
developer.
Our
interests
have
been
dismissed
as
unable
to
be
addressed
due
to
financial
limitations.
B
B
O
Our
nearest
retail
is
Fred
mile
Fred
Meyers,
which
is
a
mile
away
and,
as
most
people
know,
Fred
Meyers
is,
is
a
little
bit
higher
end.
It's
not
for
lower
income.
Lower
income
families
generally
do
not
shop
at
Fred
Meyer,
because
their
prices
are
more
expensive
than
WinCo
or
Walmart's
or
other
retailers.
Winco
itself
is
two
and
a
half
miles
away.
O
G
So
the
developer
also
indicated
it
is
not
their
responsibility
to
provide
at
least
one
parking
space
for
each
unit.
According
to
the
documents
presented,
there
are
to
be
197
parking
spaces
for
201
units.
17
of
those
spaces
are
along
the
property
that
has
a
line
from
Cascadia
of
Boise,
and
at
this
time
you
can
see
in
the
picture.
Those
are
usually
full
of
cars
from
cascadia's
customers.
G
It's
nonsensical
to
assume
that
no
one
in
the
building
would
ever
have
a
visitor.
The
developer
indicated
that
they
would
ask
neighboring
businesses
to
allow
overflow
parking
on
their
Lots.
We
don't
see
that
as
sustainable
as
once,
their
customers
can
no
longer
find
parking.
Any
agreement
like
that
would
cease
to
exist.
O
It
is
true
that
we
we
do
have
a
bus
route
on
Emerald
Street
next
slide,
but,
as
you
can
see,
it
has
very
limited
operation
hours.
So
those
working
families
who
need
Transportation
by
bus
have
to
have
all
of
their
appointments
all
of
their
shopping
if
they
want
to
use
the
bus
route
done
by
6
45
at
night,
which
is
not
feasible
with
the
work
day
ending
at
5
or
5
30.
and
then
on
the
weekends
Sunday,
especially
it's
not
operational
at
all.
So
there
would
be
no
bus
route
available.
G
Also
concerned
we're
also
concerned
about
how
traffic
would
be
impacted
so
close
to
a
hospital,
so
the
the
the
road
you
can
see
on
here,
Emerald
Street,
the
property
is
right
after
the
Curve,
it's
a
two-lane
Street,
there's
a
suicide
line
in
the
middle
during
rush
hour
traffic.
Now
the
the
traffic
can
get
congested
all
the
way
from
coal
road
to
past
the
overpass.
So,
with
the
only
real
access
to
leave,
this
property
is
supposed
to
be
out
onto
Emerald.
G
We
want
to
know
how
is
that
going
to
impact
the
the
condition
that
we
have
now,
and
we
do
think
that
there
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
traffic
impact
statement
done
this
indicated
in
the
plans
that
there
does
not
need
to
be,
but,
according
to
what
we
see
in
it
says
any
more
than
100
dwelling
units
which
this
has
201
is
subjects
should
have
a
traffic
impact
study,
and
we
also
believe
that
that
needs
to
be
done,
especially
since
we
have
First
Responders
up
and
down
that
street.
All
the
time.
G
G
We're
also
concerned
about
water
pressure
in
the
neighborhood.
There
was
one
letter
from
Suez
which
is
now
Viola
and
relation
to
the
water
pressure
for
the
fire
hydrant.
It
says,
and
that
pressure
would
be
subject
to
change
depending
on
system
demand.
So
we
want
to
know
what,
if
there's
going
to
be
any
pressure
in
decrease
because
of
an
impact
of
bringing
in
201
homes,
we've
already
seen
a
decrease
in
our
water
pressure,
because
Dairy
gold
is
now
using
more
water
than
it
used
to
that's.
How
much
more
is
that
going
to
happen?
G
O
Conclusion
so,
as
you
can
see
on
this
slide,
these
are
some
of
I'll
go
back.
These
are
some
of
the
high
density
residences.
We
have
in
Boise
that
are
great
for
our
housing
crisis,
but
next
slide.
This
is
our
neighborhood.
We
have
two-story,
we
have
one
apartment
complex,
that
has
three
story
buildings
and
that's
the
max.
We
we
do
have
a
lot
of
rentals,
but
they're
done
in
such
a
way
that
there's
enough
parking
they're,
not
blocking
or
reducing
privacy
for
the
Neighbors
around
them,
our
neighborhood,
our
neighborhood.
O
P
D
D
L
R
So
a
question
for
the
applicant
sorry
to
make
you
get
up
again,
but
the
neighborhood
association
brought
up
an
issue
and
I
kind
of
when
I
was
looking
at
the
plans.
I
thought
the
same
thing,
but
you
have
a
lot
of
single
units
or
one
bedroom
units.
Why
did
you
opt
to
go
single
units
instead
of
family
units
if
it's
affordable,
housing
and
families
are
in
need?
R
M
M
We
gauge
our
development
around
what
we
can
finance
and
get
what
we
can
get
financed,
there's
very
specific
rules
at
the
state
and
federal
level
about
that.
So
we
were
meeting
those
financing
requirements
and
trying
to
address
the
need
here
in
Boise,
as
well
as
getting
just
some
of
the
units
built
right.
There's
a
density
issue
of
meeting
numbers
that
helps
thank.
R
S
Chairman
and
members
of
the
planning
here
someone
to
follow
up
on
the
answer.
My
name
is
Caleb
Rupp
and
I'm.
The
CEO
of
the
Pacific
companies,
550
West,
State
Street
in
Eagle
I,
didn't
want
to
like
make
sure
you
guys
do
the
numbers,
because
we
have
71
of
the
193
units
that
are
two
and
three
bedroom.
So
I
would
challenge
you
to
look
at
any
of
your
projects
coming
through
the
shoot
and
see
if
there's
even
any
three
bedrooms,
much
less,
that
ratio
of
higher
you
know
higher
bedroom
count.
S
Units
I
think
you'll
find
that
the
amount
of
family
units
we're
doing
would
be
pretty
unprecedented
relative
to
the
normal
crop
of
projects.
You
see
come
through
the
shoot,
so
I
understand,
there's
probably
need
for
even
more
than
that,
but
partly
it's
just
balancing.
You
know
how
much
density
we
can
achieve
versus
having
a
good
mix
of
unit
types
to
make
the
project
successful.
So
that's
really
what's
a
product
of
but
again
71
of
193
is
a
pretty
good
ratio,
at
least
from
our
perspective,
so
that
that
drives
it.
S
T
H
L
P
L
Mr
chair
commissioner
Mooney,
as
with
the
water
servicing,
we
do
rely
on
achd
for
nhtis
study
needs
and
they
indicated
that
that
was
not
necessary
for
this
project.
So
we
as
the
city
take
their
recommendation
for
that.
The
parking
on
the
east
side
is
17
spaces
and
those
spaces
are
on
the
property,
but
in
that
private
street,
so
I
know
that
they
are
available
to
more
than
just
this
development,
but
they
do
have
I
believe
180,
probably
180
spaces
within
that
Podium
parking,
foreign.
B
Jesse
any
given
the
proposal
to
build
up
to
the
West
property
line
and
utilize
the
common
law.
That's
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
for
landscape
screening.
Is
there
any
it's
a
common
law
within
the
subdivision,
so
those
discussions
have
been
that
approach
in
that
thought.
Process
has
been
vetted
with,
with
all
the
necessary
parties
right.
L
Mr,
chair
Commissioners,
so
the
request
to
build
up
to
the
property
line
would
be
on
the
southwest
corner
and
it
would
get
farther
away
as
the
building
moves
North
from
the
property
line
so
and
that
southwest
corner
the
applicant
is
proposing
some
additional
screening
like
metal
screening
for
the
garage
area
and
then
additional
plantings
within
the
property,
as
the
project
moves
North,
not
within
the
common
area.
Oh.
B
B
B
W
B
W
W
So
if
you
have
kids,
you
know
how
they
do.
They
take
pictures
and
they
post
them
online
and
they
think
it's
funny
they're
not
going
to
have
privacy.
These.
These
kids
are
already
in
a
bad
situation.
They're
going
to
be
further
put
into
a
bad
situation
with
this
plus.
Then
you
have
the
problem
of
Contraband
coming
in.
So
if
you're
above
two
stories
say
you're
on
the
fifth
floor
of
the
roof,
and
you
have
a
good
slingshot,
you
can
look
online
and
find
slingshots
for
50
bucks.
W
As
far
as
traffic
that
the
transportation
department
says
that
there's
going
to
be
913,
unique
trips
done
between
7
and
9
A.M,
that's
7.6,
unique
trips
per
minute
for
those
two
hours.
That's
just
for
those
two
hours,
that's
a
lot
of
traffic
on
that
little
area
and
there's
they're
not
planning
on
putting
lights
in
they're,
not
planning
on
putting
the
road
through.
W
So
it's
all
going
to
be
on
our
little
Street,
that's
a
ton
of
traffic,
the
rehab
hospital
next
door
and
then
the
St
else,
Rehab
Hospital
those
people
come
out
in
their
wheelchairs
just
to
get
out
of
the
hospital,
some
of
them
smoke.
Someone
just
come
out
and
just
hang
out
and
they
hang
out
on
the
sidewalk
and
all
of
this
traffic
is
going
to
potentially
be
dangerous
for
them
as
well,
plus
the
small
children
that
live
on
the
road,
because
currently
it's
a
dead
end.
W
I
mean
I.
I
understand
that
you
don't
have
to
provide
more
because
it's
low
income,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
they
won't
have
cars
they'll
just
be
parking
them
on
the
road.
Well,
all
the
houses
down
Denton
have
mailboxes
on
the
street,
and
so
by
the
by
postal
code.
They
have
to
have
room
to
pull
up
and
deliver
the
mail
and
pull
out
without
reversing
which
takes
up
big
chunks
of
that
property,
and
if
people
are
parking
there,
they
won't
deliver
our
mail
time.
W
B
U
U
U
U
U
The
setbacks
won't
be
available
for
fire
Lanes
and
being
a
dead
end
Street.
You
know,
they're
going
to
intern
and
exit
down
Denton
out
on
Curtis
and
Curtis
is
already
pretty
congested
and
I.
Don't
think
the
size
and
dimensions
of
the
project
fit
the
neighborhood
it
doesn't
fit
in
and
I've
talked
to
the
director
at
Juvenile
Detention
Center.
They
are
concerned.
B
N
My
name
is
Dave
Kangas
I
reside
at
1715,
West
Canal
Street
I
did
not
plan
on
a
testifying
on
this
until
I
just
saw
it
as
I
live
in
the
Vista
neighborhood
association.
The
city
just
bought
two
acres
on
the
lad
of
low-income
trailer.
Housing
I
see
the
future
for
Malad
and
it
scares
the
hell
out
of
me.
N
It's
not
the
issue
of
wanting
to
supply,
affordable
housing.
It's
what
kind
of
impact
you
shoving
down
on
everybody
else
around
you.
Basically,
what
you're
doing
with
developments
like
this
is
creating
projects
for
the
future
20
years
from
now,
they're
not
going
to
look
so
great.
It's
not
going
to
be
such
a
nice
place.
N
N
N
B
Y
Y
So
before
covid
we
had
about
150
families
and
about
300
single
adults
at
any,
given
time
that
we're
experiencing
homelessness
and
I
think
the
community's
kind
of
sheltered
from
the
crisis
that
we're
in
right
now,
because
Interfaith
did
expand
their
shelter
services
to
the
Red.
Lion
and
they've
been
housing
a
lot
of
people
in
hotels,
but
we
now
have
about
250
families
experiencing
homelessness,
so
an
increase
of
100
in
a
couple
of
years
and
almost
600
individuals
experiencing
homelessness.
Y
So
we've
had
a
significant
increase
in
homelessness
as
a
community
which
does
really
demand
from
us
as
a
community
that
we
build
as
much
housing
as
we
possibly
can.
You
do
need
housing
of
all
different
types
to
address
our
housing
crisis
and
you
do
have
to
intentionally
build
some
affordable
housing
to
address
that
need
on
the
lower
Financial
end,
and
so
this
is
a
really
really
significant
project
for
us.
Z
Good
evening
my
name
is
Esther
ceja
I
reside
at
3901
North
Cambria
way,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
provide
comment
this
evening.
I
support
the
conditional
use.
Permit
I
think
it's
important
for
community
members
to
know
that
we
will
never
get
a
hundred
percent
support
for
whatever
type
of
development
is
proposed
within
our
neighborhoods
or
adjacent
neighborhoods.
Z
And
so
you
know
there
is
a
need
here.
We
can't
just
push
it
off
to
another
neighborhood.
We
need
to
work
together,
and
so
hopefully,
I'm
Sheldon
and
the
neighborhood
association
kids
sit
down
and
work
out
what
other
work
out
some
of
the
additional
concerns
that
were
identified
by
the
neighborhood
association,
but
for
the
most
part
this
is
a
Stephanie
indicated
a
really
good
project,
and
the
last
thing
I
guess
I
would
add,
is
you
know,
I
know
that
Sheldon
has
done
some
other
projects
along
Fairview.
Z
AA
Hi,
my
name
is
Justin
Snyder
with
Le
Soleil
French
school
for
children
at
302,
West,
Idaho
Street
in
Boise,
Mr,
chair
and
Commissioners
as
a
Boise
resident
and
a
child
care
facility
owner
myself.
I
would
like
to
speak
strongly
in
favor
of
this
project.
We
have
a
grave
need
of
both
affordable
housing
and
child
care
in
Boise,
in
addition
to
a
really
beautiful
and
thoughtful
design.
This
space
would
also
provide
up
to
67
Child
Care
spaces
at
the
2367
square
feet
that
they've
proposed
for
the
space.
AA
AB
As
a
neighbor
in
the
nearby
Morris
Hill
Neighborhood
I
support
this
project,
because
it's
a
well-designed,
well-planned,
well-parked
and
well-placed
project
that
will
provide
much
needed
housing
for
boiseans,
I,
think
Stephanie
day
said
it
best.
Those
of
us
who
are
housed
and
who
own
homes
are
sheltered
from
the
true
need
for
housing
in
the
city
and
one
of
the
things
I
like
best
about
this
proposed
project
is
the
housing
diversity
or
the
unit
type
diversity.
That's
proposed.
AB
I'm
an
architect
that
also
works
in
affordable
housing
and
I
know
how
difficult
it
is
to
land
projects
like
these
much
needed.
Projects
like
these
I,
also
like
the
fact
that
this
project
is
placed
within
walking
distance
of
the
orchard.
Transit
Corridor,
it's
utilizing
a
vacant
lot
and
the
nearly
one-to-one
parking
ratio
in
my
opinion
is,
is
fantastic.
So
I
would
welcome
a
project
like
this.
In
my
own
neighborhood
and
I.
Look
forward
to
welcoming
our
new
neighbors.
Thank
you.
AB
B
AC
AC
I
do
not
know
much
about
zoning
laws
and
codes
and
I'm
simply
giving
my
perspective
as
a
lifelong
resident.
I'm
speaking
today,
to
express
my
concerns,
excuse
me
and
oppose
the
den
building
project
of
a
201
multi-family
unit
building
the
neighborhood
where
this
project
is
proposed
where
I
live,
is
a
very
small
boxed
in
neighborhood
between
the
busy
streets
of
Franklin
Curtis
Emerald
to
the
freeway.
If
you
look
on
Google
Maps,
this
neighborhood
is
already
over
90
or
excuse
me
about
80
percent,
affordable
housing,
comprised
of
Apartments
duplexes
row
homes
and
mobile
homes.
AC
There
are
only
a
few
single-family
homes
in
this
area.
The
rest
of
the
neighborhood
consists
of
parking
lots
and
businesses
that
include
the
dairy,
gold,
Factory
police
station,
juvenile
detention
center
and
several
medical
buildings.
This
is
not
an
issue
of
not
in
my
backyard,
because
that's
all
my
backyard
is
is
affordable,
housing
and
non-retail
non-restaurant
businesses.
AC
This
neighborhood
is
already
very
congested
due
to
the
several
Apartments
duplexes
row,
homes
and
mobile
home
parks.
That
already
exist
here,
as
I
previously
mentioned,
as
well
as
the
businesses
as
a
pedestrian.
There
is
limited,
safe,
walking
space
in
this
neighborhood.
Almost
everywhere
you
walk.
You
are
next
to
a
busy
road,
some
without
sidewalks
the
area
of
Denton
Street,
where
this
project
is
proposed,
is
the
only
current
walkable
area
in
this
neighborhood
without
walking
next
to
a
main
road
or
business.
AC
A
business
adding
201
multi-family
unit
building,
which
would
be
about
two
to
five
hundred
people
depending
on
family
size,
would
further
congest
this
neighborhood
with
more
traffic
and
absorb
a
little
walkable
space
Remains.
The
proposed
residential
project
would
also
be
placed
directly
directly
next
to
a
juvenile
detention
center
that
has
bright
outdoor
floodlights
at
night
and
is
surrounded
by
12
foot
barbed
wire
fences
directly
on
the
east
side
of
the
pros
project.
There's
a
physical
rehabilitation
center
where
elderly
and
disabled
patients
exercise
a
move
about
in
their
wheelchairs
and
walkers
on
the
sidewalk.
AC
That
is
the
only
place
for
them
to
do
that.
So
traffic
from
this
project
would
affect
them
as
well.
The
only
additional
available
parking
in
this
area
is
on
Denton
Street,
which
is
a
single
Street.
Next
to
the
rehabilitation
medical
facility,
medical
buildings,
the
other
streets
are
private.
There
are
no.
There
are
also
no
sidewalks
on
Liberty
Street
or
Hartman
Street,
which
are
streets
directly
next
to
the
proposed
site.
The
increased
foot
in
vehicle
traffic
make
this
a
safety
concern,
especially
on
Hartman,
because
it
is
still
a
dirt
road.
AC
There
have
also
been
continual
problems
with
Vehicles
driving
over
the
sidewalk
and
grass
to
get
from
Denton
Street
to
Liberty
Street
and
vice
versa,
directly
next
to
where
the
project
is
located.
This
is
especially
concerning
because
the
vehicles
are
driving
through
Liberty
Park
to
access
the
roads
on
either
side,
despite
the
city,
placing
obstacles
in
that
area
to
prevent
this
additional
housing
would
further
escalate.
Another
safety
concern
traffic
problem
that
has
yet
to
be
resolved
between
increased
traffic
and
the
smallerity
congested
area.
AC
AC
B
B
B
U
AD
These
affordable
housing
projects
that
are
indeed
you
know
actually
subsidized
and
allowing
for
relatively
deep
affordability,
in
this
case,
30
to
80
percent
of
area.
Media
income
are
really
exciting.
I
hope
this
project
goes
through
and
I'm
very
excited
for
the
200
to
500
people
that
will
eventually
I
hope,
get
to
call
these
homes
home
and
will
have
their
life
better
by
the
process.
C
B
B
M
M
I
think
it's
really
important
for
that
discussion
to
happen
so
that
we
can
make
these
projects
the
best
type
that
they
can
possibly
be
for
this
community.
So
with
that
said,
I
look
forward
to
working
with
the
owners
and
the
folks
who
have
spoken
out
tonight
to
try
to
address
some
of
their
concerns.
I
won't
be
able
to
do
all
of
them.
M
Yes,
we
need
better
buses,
I
am
I,
I,
agree
and
the
way
that
you
get
better
Transit
is
you
create
households
and
rooftops
and
the
way
that
you
get
more
retail?
Is
you
create
rooftops
to
serve
and
purchase
things
at
those
retail
spots?
So
this
is
a
vacant
site.
This
is
zoned
LOD.
This
will
be
developed
at
some
point.
If
not
here,
if
we
can't
do
dense,
affordable
housing
here,
I
don't
know
where
else
we
could
do
it.
M
It's
zoned
for
housing,
this
condominium
or
this
development
was
created
years
ago
and
I
know
Colby
and
others
could
speak
to
it,
but
when
it
was
done,
it
was
done
by
developers
who
were
focused
on
office
and
medical
and
the
council
at
that
point
in
time
said:
wait
a
minute.
We
have
a
housing,
need
we're
right
across
from
Liberty
Park.
Why
wouldn't
we
require
you
to
put
multi-family
housing
in
your
development
agreement
and
the
developers
at
the
time?
This
is
15
plus
years
ago,
said:
we're
not
affordable
housing,
we're
not
housing
developers.
M
We're
not
super
comfortable
doing
that.
Let
us
have
some
flexibility
and
they
negotiated
that
development
agreement
to
have
the
flexibility
years
later.
We're
there
right.
We've
we've
created
a
partnership
to
get
what
the
city
ultimately
wanted.
So
I
think
that's
a
really
important
story.
In
addition
to
you
know,
in
addition
to
just
the
need
that
we
have
today
so
did
I
miss
anything.
S
Mr,
commissioner,
and
members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
just
a
few
things,
to
sum
it
up,
I
I
think
at
his
time
is
rebuttal.
It's
not
so
much
rebuttal
like
I,
know.
There's
concerns
out
there
with
growth
comes
concerns
and
I'm
the
first
to
say:
I
got
it
and
what
you
will
get
with
us
is.
You
will
get
somebody
to
listen
to
the
neighbors
to
work
with
them
when
this
Project's
built.
S
If
there's
concerns,
if
there's
parking
issues,
you
know
we
have
the
ability
to
regulate
through
our
you
know
our
leases,
the
amount
of
parking
that
is
on
site.
We
don't
want
to
be
a
problem
of
the
neighborhood.
It
does
us
no
service
whatsoever,
To
Be
A
disruption
or
have
problems
with
our
our
neighbors,
and
so
you
can
count
on
us
to
be
there
at
the
table
with
any
concerns
that
might
come
up
in
the
future
and
then
we
didn't
it
didn't
seem
like
it
got
mentioned
tonight.
S
But
the
last
thing
I'll
just
say
is
that
I
continue
to
get
pinged
by
the
hospitals,
St
Luke's
and
Saint
Alice
about
their
inability
to
attract
healthcare
workers-
nurses
in
particular
to
our
community
because
of
the
high
cost
of
housing
and
with
saying
I
was
just
down
the
street
I
can
think
of
no
better
situation
for
them
than
to
be
able
to
house
their.
You
know
their
Workforce
close
by
walkable
distance.
S
This
was
like
the
thing
to
me.
That
was
the
best
element
of
this
project
that
I
thought
was
just
the
fact
that
we
were
so
close
to
Saint,
Al's
and
all
those
jobs
as
well
as
the
medical
services.
Should
they
be
needed.
So
you
know
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
one
last
thing
and
what
a
great
opportunity
it
is
for
us
to
put
something
so
close
to
a
major.
S
B
AE
B
I
B
R
I'll
just
go
through,
like
my
notes,
really
quick,
but
as
far
as
the
set
pack
variants
I
think
there
are.
There
is
an
unusual
circumstance
for
the
variants
and
that
that
common
lot
is
designated
as
open
space
and
so
I
think
it's
appropriate
on
that
West
Side
the
parking,
the
hype
you
know,
variances,
it's
all
covered
in
the
housing
bonus
ordinance
to
address
some
of
the
public
comment.
R
The
fire
department
did
review
and
approve
the
project,
and
so
I
know
there
was
some
concern
about
that,
but
that's
in
our
packet
and
they
you
know
they
approved
it
with
the
conditions
of
approval
that
will
also
be
incorporated
into
the
project
and
a
achd
commented
and
determined.
There
are
no
improvements,
so
I
think
we
rely
on
their
comment
and
their
expertise
in
that
area.
So
yeah
for
those
reasons,
I
think
I
really
like
the
idea
of
the
daycare
I
mean
like
that
public
comment.
R
The
person
who
commented
I
think
we
actually
had
that
project
in
front
of
this
committee,
a
while
back
but
yeah
there's
over
200
on
a
waiting
list
for
a
facility.
That's
only
two
years
old.
It's
just
I.
Think
it's
troubling,
but
I
do
think
this
project
addresses
not
only
needed
housing
but
also,
maybe,
hopefully,
a
daycare
eventually
so
I'm
in
support
of
the
project.
I
I
guess
I
will
just
because
I
did
second,
but
yeah
I
mean
I,
don't
I,
don't
see.
What's
not
to
like
one
of
the
things
about
this
project
is
that
it
has
so
little
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
I
mean
you're.
Talking
about
really
a
couple
of
houses
within
distance
of
the
project,
which
is
pretty
unique,
I
mean
a
lot
of
times.
We've
got,
you
know
dozens
of
neighbors
that
are
impacted
by
a
project.
In
this
case
we
don't
have
that
it's
a
big
Square
lot.
It's
on
all
the
transportation
networks.
I
B
AF
B
Okay,
all
right
short
and
sweet,
then
okay,
I'll
sign
off
for
just
real,
quick
as
well
yeah
I'll
be
I'll,
be
supporting
the
motion
as
well.
I
agree
with
the
comments
from
commissioner,
commissioner,
Blanchard
and
I
think
that
you
know
this
is
a
vacant
lot.
You
know
it
checks
many
of
the
boxes
right.
It's
it's,
not
a
rezone
other
than
a
couple
of
variance
requests
that
I
think
are
really
pretty
nominal.
B
There's
there's
nothing
beyond
the
code
here
that
you're
asking
for
that's
already,
you
know
baked
into
the
entitlements
of
the
property,
so
I
think
it's
I
agree
with
commission
Lantern,
it's
hard
to
say
no
to
this.
Having
said
that,
I
really
understand,
there
are
growing
pains
right,
there's
always
growing
pains
when
there's
when
there's
growth
happening,
but
I
agree
with
with
the
applicant
that
you
know
we.
B
We
build
the
rooftops
to
bring
improvements
to
the
bus
routes
and
we
we
bring
the
rooftops
to
to
change,
to
add
you
know
more
shops
and
more
restaurants
and
more
commercial,
so
I
think
that
sort
of
a
chicken
egg,
it's
a
chicken
or
egg
thing
right,
but
I
think
that
the
first
thing
to
start
with
there
is
definitely
the
housing
Mr
chairman,
yeah
and
I've,
triggered
commissioner
Westby.
So.
V
Yeah
I
just
want
to
read
two
sentences
from
packet:
page
49..
The
applicant
is
utilizing
the
housing
bonus
ordinance
by
providing
all
affordable
housing
units
rates
between
30
and
80
percent
of
the
area
in
median
income
with
a
mixture
of
unit
type.
This
is
the
important
sentence.
The
housing
bonus
ordinance
allows
for
unlimited
dwelling
units
per
acre,
maximum,
a
height
increase
from
45
to
55
percent
and
a
20
parking
reduction.
V
So
the
the
time
to
fight
this
kind
of
development
and
I
can
see
why
one
would
at
the
first
second
and
third
reading
of
that
ordinance.
The
city
council
had
hours
and
hours
of
hearing
on
that
ordinance
ordinances
shape
what
we
do
up
here.
We
don't
really
have
a
lot
of
discretion
when
the
ordinance
is
so
clear,
so
I
would
encourage
everybody
who's
wondering
about
sort
of
the
democratic
implications
to
this.
The
action
goes
down
at
the
city
council
when
they
write
ordinances.
V
B
AA
B
D
C
V
D
B
All
right
we're
going
to
take
a
a
five
minute
break
at
this
point
before
we
do
that.
I
am
just
going
to
go
on
the
record
here
and
let
everybody
know:
I'm
gonna
recuse
on
item
number
two
as
I
had
a
meeting
with
the
development
team
back
in
October
regarding
this
project
and
to
be
fully
transparent,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
recuse
from
this
item.
So.
H
C
L
H
K
That'll
help
Madam
chair,
commission
members
Delaney's
going
to
present
this
case.
I
wanted
to
make
a
few
comments
about
it,
starting
with
the
fact
that
the
applicant
in
this
case
had
brought
us
a
plan
for
this
property.
Many
months
ago.
It
was
early
this
year
when
the
first
plans
for
the
property
were
presented
and
and-
and
we
were
not
happy
with
that
plan
and,
as
probably
others
were
not
not
feeling
that
it
was
of
a
high
enough
quality
to
be
built
on
this
particular
piece
of
property.
K
This
is
obviously
a
property
of
great
importance,
its
relationship
to
the
neighborhood,
it's
it's
its
location
in
the
City
generally
warrants
an
excellent
plan,
and-
and
we
talked
to
the
applicant
about
this
and
to
the
applicant's
credit
they
really
started
over
at
that
time
and
brought
in
a
new
design
team
really
worked
closely
with
us
to
prepare
something
that
we
think
is
appropriate
for
this
site
and
and
I
want
to
say
that
you
know
when
they
initially
presented.
This
plan
to
us.
K
I
was
quite
amazed
because
there
are
lots
of
aspects
of
this
that
are
not
easy
to
accomplish
as
a
developer.
This
is
this
is
no
conventional,
cookie
cutter
proposal
that
you
have
before
you
tonight,
so
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
and
and
and
the
developers
close
working
with
the
with
the
neighborhood
and
from
the
beginning
lots
of
discussions.
The
neighborhood,
of
course,
has
presented
many
important,
legitimate
concerns
about
how
this
property
is
developed.
K
It's
a
property
that
has
been
a
farm,
of
course
for
for
many
years,
a
generation,
and
so
the
people
that
live
in
this
neighborhood
had
very
important
concerns
to
address
in
the
design
of
this
property.
The
applicant
has
been
seeking
to
address
those
concerns
every
step
of
the
way
since
they
moved
in
this
new
Direction.
K
This
amount
of
housing
in
this
location.
This.
This
is
just
a
location
that
is
ideal
for
a
development
like
this,
in
the
sense
that
when
you
look
at
the
city
overall,
this
is
a
location
that
is
in
proximity
to
so
much
and
therefore
people
can
live
here
and
not
drive
as
much,
which
is
one
of
the
great
responsibilities
we
have
as
a
city,
not
that
everybody
won't
drive
that
lives
here.
K
Of
course
they
will,
but
it's
just
that
their
their
trips
will
be
shorter,
they'll
reasonably
be
less
than
they
would
be
in
in
many
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
there
has
been
expressed
legitimate
concerns
about
the
movement
of
cars
and
and
transportation
specifically,
especially
as
it
relates
to
Victory
itself
that
that
street
and
I
wanted
to
just
mention
that
the
applicant
has
been
willing
to
do
whatever
they
need
to
in
order
to
achieve
what
we
want
on
Victory.
That's
never
been
the
issue.
K
We
have
been
working
with
achd
for
quite
some
time
on
this,
and
we
feel
there
are
a
couple.
Things
are
important
that
I
want
to
mention
that
we
want
to
keep
working
on
as
the
developer
progresses
on
to
city,
council
and
and
this
this
moves
forward,
one
is,
is
the
potential
for
on-street
parking
on
Victory,
which
achd
has
expressed
opposition
to.
K
We
just
want
to
keep
studying
that
with
them,
and
the
neighborhood
has
expressed
a
very
specific
concern
about
on-street
parking
and
the
curve
that's
over
towards
where
the
road
moves
towards
Canal
to
the
to
the
north,
and
that's
understood.
Certainly,
it
would
not
be
on
that
curved
part
of
the
street,
but
on
the
main
line
of
of
Victory,
where
it's
a
straight
shot
in
front
of
this
property.
K
We'd
like
to
keep
looking
at
that,
because
the
applicant
has
proposed
up
front
a
Joan
victory
that
would
include
on-street
parking
and
then
a
a
bike
and
pedestrian
path,
and
then
they
also
have
a
another
sidewalk
actually
at
the
front
of
the
buildings
and-
and
we
do
want
to
keep
working
on
that
and
see
if
on-street
parking
would
be
because
I
have
a
feeling,
it
may
be
the
best
outcome,
including
for
the
neighborhood.
We
just
want
to
keep
pursuing
that
and
then
the
second
thing
is
the
importance
of
the
streets
within
the
development
itself.
K
Being
public
and
not
private
streets
and
achd
has
expressed
some
misgivings
about
that.
We
want
to
keep
exploring
that
as
well.
The
proposal
for
those
streets
in
terms
of
their
width
are
absolutely
adequate.
There's
no
City
staff
from
a
technical
standpoint,
standpoint
that
opposes
having
on
street
parking
and
having
these
streets
be
public,
so
we
feel
strongly
there's
not
a
technical
reason
for
these
to
be
to
for
these
to
be
private
streets,
we
would
really
very
much
want
to
continue
working
towards
them
being
public
ones.
K
So,
with
those
two
specific
things
mentioned
that
we'll
keep
working
on,
there's
also
the
other
recommendations
achd
made
and
would
seem
to
be
aligning
nicely
with
requests
that
the
neighborhood
had
been
making.
So
so
with
that
just
a
little
bit
of
History
this
year
on,
where
we've
been
with
this
applicant
and
the
degree
to
which
they've
moved
in
a
much
more
positive
direction
and
I'll,
let
Delaney
go
through
the
the
staff
report.
Now.
Thank
you
for
sure.
AG
Thank
you,
Tim
Madam,
chair
members
of
the
commission,
before
you
this
evening,
is
a
request
for
a
rezone
plan
unit
development,
height
exception
and
subdivision.
The
project
site
is
approximately
44
Acres
located
at
2017
West
Victory
Road.
This
property
is
within
the
central
bench
planning
area
and
situated
between
downtown
and
the
airport.
AG
So
this
site
has
a
mixed
use,
designation,
which
is
intended
to
promote
a
more
compact,
pedestrian
and
Transit
oriented
pattern
of
development.
Due
to
this
location,
a
higher
density
than
what
is
currently
allowed
with
the
A1
zone
is
supported
by
blueprint
Boise.
The
reason
request
is
go
to
r3da,
which
would
allow
for
a
maximum
of
43.5
units
per
acre.
The
proposed
project
would
have
a
total
density
of
just
over
20
units
per
acre.
AG
Due
to
the
specific
location
of
this
property,
a
development
agreement
was
included
with
the
application.
The
da
ties,
a
rezone
to
the
conceptual
plan
submitted
limits,
the
height
to
the
requested
height
exception,
specifies
pathway,
locations
and
requirements
for
Community
amenities
Additionally.
The
applicant
has
offered
25
multi-family
units
to
be
deed,
restricted,
affordable
at
100
Ami.
If
the
height
exception
is
granted,
the
plenty
and
Zoning
commission
can
add,
delete
or
modify
these
conditions,
which
will
ultimately
be
considered
at
city
council.
AG
AG
The
subdivision
request
is
to
allow
for
individual
single-family
lots
and
the
extension
and
development
of
public
roads
throughout
the
project
site.
This
this
site
provides
a
mix
of
housing
types
with
the
single-family
homes.
Town
Homes
apartments
that
are
a
mix
of
different
bedroom
counts.
The
site
plan
on
the
right
shows
you
the
mix
of
different
unit
types,
as
you
can
see,
along
the
eastern
and
Northern
boundary
you're,
going
to
see
the
single
family
lots
As.
AG
Includes
three
points
from
Victory
Road
public
streets,
crisscross
the
site
to
create
an
urban
Light
Grid
and
provide
pen
activity
to
existing
substrates
on
the
East
and
plan
streets
to
the
West
north
south
and
East-West
boulevards
include
significant
median
Landscaping,
providing
for
attractive
and
safe
passage
in
all
directions.
Internet
internal
private
drives
do
serve
the
residential
nodes
within
the
project.
The
street
layout,
along
with
the
new
multi-use
pathway,
support
both
pedestrian
and
bike
traffic
throughout
the
site.
This
would
serve
new
new
residents
as
well
as
the
surrounding
community
and
neighborhood.
AG
With
this
application,
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
height
exception
to
allow
the
mixed-use
multi-family
apartment
building
to
be
built
over
the
45-foot
height
limit
in
the
R3
Zone.
The
tallest
portion
of
the
structure
will
be
30
percent
of
the
building
footprint
and
reach
68
feet
in
height,
including
apprentices
and
60
feet
to
the
roof.
For
five
stories.
This
area
is
outlined
in
red
on
the
site
plan.
AG
AG
AG
AG
AG
Achd
has
reviewed
and
accepted
the
tis
and
has
provided
initial
comments
on
the
project,
which
was
included
in
your
late
correspondence
in
general,
the
draft
agency
comment
letter
identified
nearby
identified
projects
within
the
capital
Improvement
plan
and
the
integrative
five-year
work
plan.
The
letter
also
discusses
current
conditions
of
the
area,
roadways,
traffic
impacts,
neighborhood
concerns
and
potential
traffic
calming
and
mitigation
strategies.
AG
H
Ms
garlic,
while
the
commission's
thinking
about
it
I'll
ask
a
couple
of
questions
just
to
get
it
started.
I
just
had
some
thoughts
for
staff
or
questions.
I
guess
were
there
my
two,
the
two
things
that
kind
of
piqued
my
interest
are:
the
mixed-use
retail
availability
and
also
the
podium
parking
solution
is:
oh,
we
have
to
hear
from
the
applicant
first.
Thank
you.
It's
been
yeah,
it's
been
a
minute
since
I've
chaired
here.
So
no.
AG
H
H
AE
Sure
yeah
Madam
chair
fellow
Commissioners,
my
name
is
Alex
Drexel
and
my
address
is
3034
South
Sequoia,
Salt,
Lake
City
Utah
for
109.
I
have
a
couple
brief
comments
before
we
get
into
the
details
of
the
application.
First
I
want
to
thank
Delaney,
Tim
and
the
rest
of
the
staff,
the
city
of
Boise,
for
their
hard
work
and
quick
responsiveness
throughout
this
project.
Not
only
that
but
but
challenging
us
to
bring
forward
the
best
project
to
the
city
of
Boise,
as
Tim
touched
on.
AE
So
second
I
want
to
briefly
introduce
the
team
behind
this
development.
I'm
Alex
Drexel
with
Leighton
construction
development,
director
Leighton,
has
had
a
presence
in
the
the
Treasure
Valley
since
the
early
1990s
and
many
of
our
employees
were
born
in
born
and
raised
here
locally
we're
working
on
behalf
of
the
owner.
Well,
Tower
Inc,
along
with
our
trusted
partners
and
Consultants,
including
Kimberly
horn
and
dpz,
to
identify,
develop
and
deliver
what
we
call
Wellness
housing
across
the
greater
Treasure
Valley.
AE
Well,
Tower
is
a
national
leader
in
the
health
and
wellness
space
and
a
long-term
holder
in
all
their
assets
and
that's
important
detail.
Because
of
this.
The
concerns
of
the
community
are
of
great
importance
to
our
team
and
we
took
extra
steps
to
involve
the
community.
Throughout
this
entire
process,
we
held
a
series
of
four
neighborhood
meetings
dating
back
to
March
of
this
year
and
and
the
city
actually
recommended.
AE
AE
We
recognize
the
community
concerns
could
become
issues
for
our
own
residents
and
we
have
worked
hard
to
design
a
project
that
fulfills
the
city's
plan
for
this
property
and
also
elevates
the
quality
of
life
for
the
entire
community
and
the
process.
We
appreciate
the
thoughtful
feedback
and
look
forward
to
Growing
together.
A
common
motto
within
our
team
is
what
is
good
for
the
community
is
good
for
well
Tower
and
Leighton.
Thank
you.
Q
We're
requesting
our
three
zoning
here,
which
is
intended
for
higher
density,
residential
development
and
close
proximity
to
retail
employment
and
Transit
R3
is
consistent
with
the
comp
plan
designation
of
mixed
use,
which
supports
high
density
residential
along
corridors
with
access
to
Transit
and
is
supported
by
your
Matrix,
which
allows
the
R3
Zone
in
a
mixed-use
designation.
The
comp
plan
also
designates
the
site
as
an
infill
property
infill
priority
area
and
an
area
where
significant
new
development
and
Redevelopment
is
anticipated.
Q
The
proposed
R3
zoning
is
consistent
with
the
surrounding
zoning
and
planned,
and
existing
uses
immediately.
West
of
the
site
is
designated
mixed
use
with
proposed
R3
zoning
further
west
and
North
as
existing
R3
zoning
r1c
zoning
and
single-family
homes
around
the
east
and
south
side
on
the
bench
and
the
vistapoint
site
is
thoughtfully,
designed
with
single-family
residential
on
these
sides
to
transition
to
the
adjacent
r1c.
Zoning
vistapoint
has
been
carefully
designed
to
take
into
account
feedback
from
planning
staff
and
the
neighbors
uses
are
arranged
to
transition
height
and
density
to
existing
uses.
Q
The
site
includes
over
10
acres
of
open
space,
including
over
six
acres
of
publicly
accessible
Green
Space.
The
apartments
include
internal
Courtyards
with
green
space
for
the
residents.
The
highlight
of
the
public
areas
is
a
mixed-use
path
along
the
New
York
Canal,
connecting
to
the
neighboring
development
to
the
West
plus
a
new
north
south
pathway
along
the
western
border,
to
connect
to
Victory
the
site
contains
over
a
mile
of
off-street
pads
for
pedestrians
and
bikers.
Q
The
vistapoint
community
includes
a
variety
of
housing
types
all,
as
called
for
in
your
comprehensive
plan.
The
apartments
shown
here
in
pink
include
Studio
one
bedroom
and
two
bedroom
units
and
are
centrally
arranged
along
the
western
border
adjacent
to
the
proposed
seasons
on
the
bench
project
Townhomes
shown
in
purple
Shades
buffer.
Q
We
are
requesting
the
ability
to
provide
2,
000
square
feet
of
leasable
ground
floor
commercial
space
and
up
to
6
000
square
feet
of
additional
non-residential
Flex
space
that
may
include
additional
commercial
uses
office
co-working
space,
a
leasing
office
and
residential
amenity
space
city
code
allows
up
to
20
percent
of
the
total
area
of
the
Pud
to
be
devoted
to
these
uses
in
an
R3
Zone
with
the
Pud.
We're
also
asking
for
the
height
exception
for
the
apartment
buildings
to
be
four
and
five
stories.
Q
The
four-story
buildings
will
be
49
feet
to
the
roof
line
and
the
five-story
buildings
will
be
63
and
a
half
feet
to
the
roof
line,
plus
a
pertinances.
The
overall
density
of
the
development
is
just
over
20
units
per
acre
well
under
the
43.5
units
per
acre
allowed
in
an
R3
Zone.
The
height
exception
allows
this
density
to
be
vertically
concentrated
in
the
apartments
enabling
the
mix
of
housing
types
and
horizontal
transition
within
the
site.
Q
The
height
exception
is
also
needed
to
accommodate
the
podium
parking
to
minimize
surface
parking
and
for
the
ground
floor,
commercial
space
that
planning
staff
and
the
neighbors
requested
to
be
added
into
this
development.
If
a
height
exception
is
granted,
the
developer
has
offered
25,
affordable
housing
units
at
a
hundred
percent.
Ami
neighbors
along
the
sunrise
Rim
neighborhood
to
the
South,
have
raised
concerns
about
this
height
in
response
during
neighborhood
meetings,
the
apartments
were
pulled
further
into
the
site,
with
significant
setbacks.
Q
The
sunrise,
Rim
neighbors,
are
not
only
set
back
hundreds
of
feet,
they're,
also
elevated
above
the
site,
with
their
lowest
yard,
elevation
at
47
feet
higher
than
our
base
and
ranging
up
from
there
using
a
drone
at
a
conservative,
50-foot
elevation.
The
applicant
conducted
a
view
study
to
demonstrate
the
U
impacts
of
the
requested
height
exception
from
three
different
points
along
the
rim
toward
the
angle
of
the
foothills.
Q
Q
Q
A
traffic
study
was
completed
for
this
project
and
was
reviewed
and
agreed
to
by
achd.
The
study
included
the
proposed
seasons
on
the
bench
project
to
the
West,
as
well
as
the
Vista
Apartments
at
Vista
and
Canal
Street,
a
block
north
on
Vista.
The
study
found
that
in
2025,
all
Road
sections
studied
will
be
operating
in
acceptable
levels,
except
for
a
segment
of
Victory
between
the
western
boundary
and
Canal
Street,
which
was
19
Vehicles
over
the
planning
thresholds
in
the
PM
peak
hour.
Q
The
development
will
also
extend
the
storage
capacity
on
Canal
for
left
turns
onto
Vista
with
restriping,
in
addition
to
the
mitigation
being
required
of
the
applicant
achd,
and
the
report
describes
improvements.
They
have
planned
for
the
area,
including
bicycle
signage
and
wayfinder
improvements
along
Canal,
Street
and
Columbus
Street
pedestrian
improvements
on
victory
over
the
railroad
tracks
to
the
east,
with
the
design
in
2026
and
filling
sidewalk
gaps
between
Helen
Street
and
Columbus
Street
on
Victory
foreign.
Q
Out
that
the
develop
with
the
development
next
door,
this
entire
stretch
of
Victory
Road
will
be
widened
with
new
bicycle
facilities
and
sidewalks.
As
Tim
mentioned,
we
will
continue
to
work
with
the
city
and
achd
on
the
street
widths
and
streetscape
improvements
along
Victory
and
internal
to
the
site,
and
then
I
just
want
to
flip
through
a
few
renderings
that
show
how
this
community
will
live
and
feel
with
activated
streetscapes
Urban,
building
design,
a
variety
of
housing
types
and
a
mix
of
uses.
Q
N
N
Overall,
it
hasn't
been
about.
The
development
has
been
about
the
impact.
We
have
a
really
appreciated
the
effort
that
the
developer
has
gone
to
meet
with
us,
because
we
vet
four
different
neighborhood
meetings.
We've
seen
different
schematics
different
designs
and
overall,
the
design
is
really
unique.
It
is
a
good
design,
but
when
we're
talking
about
892
units,
356
units
which
come
to
1300
and
some
odd
units
and
2
900
people
moving
into
the
area,
that
is
just
a
huge
impact
and
our
big
concerns
were
the
impact
and
traffic.
N
The
accident
record
was
showing
I
believe
it
was
33
accidents
in
the
five-year
study
with
16
injuries,
which
the
four-fold
increase
in
traffic.
It's
reasonable
to
expect
that
you'll
see
a
four-fold
increase
in
accidents
and
injuries,
so
that
goes
up
to
132
accidents
and
64
injuries
in
the
coming
years.
N
N
That
means
shopping.
Yes,
there's
grocery
stores
all
the
infrastructure
around,
but
that
is
a
huge
impact.
People,
congestion
lines,
traffic.
When
you
add
in
the
accidents
now
we
have
busy
noise
and
safety
issues,
it's
no
longer
a
safe
quiet,
neighborhood,
it's
a
busy
neighborhood
that
just
doesn't
have
the
safety
that
we've
had.
N
N
Considering
that
this
has
been
a
year-long
process,
I
guess
and
the
traffic
study's
been
out
since
the
end
of
April
is
still
very
frustrating
to
see
that
achd
did
not
agree
with
any
of
the
street
designs
that
were
suggested.
That
is
kind
of
beyond
my
pay
grade,
especially
when
you
get
into
the
interior
streets.
N
They
got
a
deferment
in
order
to
meet
with
achd
on
a
work
study
and
do
a
comprehensive
holistic
look
at
the
whole
area,
and
both
projects,
which
was
probably
should
have
been
done
from
the
beginning.
So
I
am
not
sure
if
the
city
is
going
to
require
further
further
mitigation
or
not.
That's
still.
Something
to
that's
working
through
the
biggest
issue
with
the
neighborhood
right
now
is
the
heights
68
feet.
Height
exception
is
Way
Beyond,
the
45
foot
that
is
currently
allowed,
and
even
the
50
Foot
that's
allowed
being
proposed
in
the
new
zoning
code.
N
This
is
not
a
Industrial
Area,
arterial
or
commercial
area
where
you
can
expect
neighboring
projects
to
match
that
height.
This
is
a
single
family,
residential
neighborhood
of
primarily
single
level
homes
to
the
east
west,
or
excuse
me,
north
south
and
east
to
the
West.
You
have
the
seasons
which
are
the
three-story
Apartments,
the
the
the
motel
Comfort
Suites
and
the
ICCU
building
over
on
Vista
are
the
tallest
buildings
in
the
area
right
now
and
the
Comfort
Suites
is
31
feet.
N
Iccu
is
probably
36
feet
from
my
measurements.
So
when
you
think
68
feet
sticking
up
in
the
middle
of
this
area,
is
this
going
to
be
a
stick
in
the
eye
and
a
sore
thumb
for
most
of
the
residents
around
there?
It's
just
up
and
Beyond
what
is
really
called
for
it's
up
and
Beyond
the
transition
from
the
three-story
town
homes
and
it
does
start
to
get
up
and
impede
into
the
views
of
the
sunrise
rim.
N
This
is
not
an
issue
of
asking
you
to
create
a
law
that
protects
navigation
or
easements,
or
something
like
that,
because
they
have
views
that
are
currently
unobstructed
views
of
the
Boise
front.
And
if
you
think
about
that,
that
is
very
special
here
in
Boise
there
just
aren't
that
many
of
them,
if
you
go
out
towards
Amity
you'll,
have
Oregon
Trail
Heights.
That
gets
to
look
through
high
tension
power
lines
of
a
substation.
N
If
this
was
any
any
other
location,
you
would
have
a
high
price
development
attorney
speaking
before
you
now,
with
the
threats
of
litigation
and
appeals.
Unfortunately,
the
neighborhood
just
has
me:
we
did
get
36
or
I
believe
26
signatures
from
residents
up
on
Sunrise
Rim
that
just
don't
like
the
height
the
height
is
the
issue.
68
feet
is
too
high,
especially
when
you
look
at
all
the
surrounding
homes
around
you.
This
is
a
prom,
predominantly
single
level,
single-family
home
neighborhood.
There
are
very
few
two-story
homes.
Most
of
them
would
be
a
split
entry.
N
The
only
building
that
would
stick
up
would
be
Saint
Al's.
If
you
could
see
it
on
a
clear
day.
Other
than
that,
you
have
a
clear,
unobstructed,
spectacular,
rare
view
of
the
Boise
front
and
as
we
grow
and
add
more
people,
we
have
to
remember
what
makes
Boise
special.
It
is
unique
places
like
this
unique
scenes
that
deserves
some
kind
of
protection
or
trying
not
to
ruin
them.
N
I
can
only
reference
in
my
reference
back
to
the
70s
when
Boise
had
to
grow.
The
only
way
to
save
Boise
was
to
destroy
Boise.
The
only
way
to
save
Boise
now
is
not
to
destroy
neighborhoods
and
things
that
make
it
special
is
to
remember
what
is
special
and
unique
about
Boise,
and
that
is
our
older
character.
Neighborhoods
that
just
are
different.
N
N
Boise
has
character
and
there's
things
that
deserve
protection,
and
that
is
The
Stance
of
the
Vista
neighborhood
is
that
we
really
do
not
approve
this
because
of
the
variances
and
the
height
exception
within
the
development
they're.
Also
asking
for
front
rear
side
setbacks
in
order
to
also
increase
density
and
get
their
part
bicycle
parking
count
to
make
room.
Thank.
H
R
R
AG
Madam
chair
commissioner
finfrock
in
this
case
for
a
height
exception.
It
is
a
cup
request,
so
we
are
not
typically
looking
at
those
variant
standards
which
are
referencing
the
exceptional
circumstance
and
hardship
are
not
the
findings
that
we'd
be
looking
at
so
for
the
cup.
The
findings
are
compatibility,
undue
burden.
You
know
those
type
of
effects.
H
V
V
The
applicant
presented
data
on
the
change
in
grade
from
the
houses
that
are
impacted
and
and
presented
those
simulated
views.
You
know
the
computer
renderings
is
it.
The
city
is
the
city,
basically
in
agreement
with
the
applicant,
with
respect
to
the
argument
about
the
impact
of
those
those
tall
buildings.
AG
Madam
chair
commissioner
golovski,
that
is
correct.
We
are
in
agreement.
We
support
the
request,
for
the
height
exception,
a
to
achieve
the
vertical
mixed
use,
the
density
that
we're
looking
for
as
well
as
that
offer
for
the
deed
restriction
of
units.
By
going
to
that
height,
they
are
able
to
provide
25
units
at
that
deed
restriction.
V
AG
AG
Q
P
P
P
That
tis
was
very
clear
that
60
of
the
traffic
from
this
particular
area
is
going
to
go
out
to
Vista.
40
is
going
to
go
over
to
Federal,
but
when
you
read
the
tis
for
this
development,
it
basically
says
no
traffic
is
going
to
go
wandering
eastbound
is
that
true
I
mean
is
that
is
that
what
that
tis
assumes.
AG
Madam
chair
commissioner
Mooney
I
would
have
to
revisit
that
specific
section.
With
the
achd
comment
letter.
They
do
have
planned
off-site
mitigation
that
is
towards
the
east.
So
I
would
note
that
Malad
and
federal
Crossing
Beacon,
as
well
as
improvements
on
Victory,
so
I,
think
achd
would
acknowledge
that
there
would
be
some
traffic
pattern.
Heading
east
I,
don't
know
if
the
tis
fully
represented
that.
P
Yeah,
that's
my
confusion
and
in
fact,
I
copied
that
out
of
kimlee
horns
tis
for
Vista,
which
is
what
we're
talking
about
now
and
what
it
says
is
on
the
TS.
One
of
the
assumptions
is
not
expected
due
to
the
route
that
would
be
required
by
vehicles
and
it
would
not
Advantage
a
vehicle
by
arriving
at
a
signal,
light
intersection
to
join
the
street
Network.
P
So
based
on
my
confusion
about,
were
we
looking
at
both
of
these
developments
together
back
in
October,
I
asked
the
question
about
off-site
improvements
at
malat
and
the
answer
I
got
was:
it
doesn't
trigger
the
10
percent
and
then
my
subsequent
question
was:
why
aren't
we
looking
at
off-site
requirement
for
a
pedestrian,
hybrid
break-in
or
an
RFB
at
there?
So
my
question
boils
down
to
is:
why
are
we
requiring
it
now
when
the
applicant
said
back
in
November,
it's
not
required
and
we're
not
going
to
do
it.
AG
Yeah
Madam
chair
commissioner
Mooney
I
would
note
that
this
project
is
significantly
greater
in
the
number
of
units
in
density
than
the
seasons
on
the
bench.
So
while
the
tis
does
consider
both
projects
as
far
as
the
overall
traffic
impact,
when
we're
looking
at
this
project
in
front
of
us
today,
892
units
versus
358
that
impact
of
the
traffic
is
going
to
be
significantly
more
and
generated
and
contributed
by
the
Vista
Point.
AG
P
Okay,
I
I'm
still
confused
about
that,
because
the
tis
both
tis's,
have
differing
perspectives
of
what
happens
off-site
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
clear
and
and
I
was
a
little
frustrated
that
when
I
asked
about
that
condition
in
October
it
was
no
but
it's
okay.
Now
and
it's
the
same
number
in
this
tis.
Q
Madam
chair,
thank
you,
commissioner
Mooney.
Maybe
I
can
address
a
couple
of
your
your
comments.
I
just
looking
at
the
the
tis
I
I'm,
seeing
40
going
to
the
east
and
in
the
figure
seven
for
the
project,
trip
distribution,
so
I
think
that
is
consistent
with
what
you'd
seen
before
looks
like
30
percent
would
head
left
on
Federal,
Way
and
10
would
hit
right
on
Federal,
Way,
so
I
think
that's
consistent
with
the
other
project
report.
Q
Q
This
development
was
about
eight
percent,
and
so
it
as
Delaney
mentioned
it's
larger,
but
as
still
below
that
10
percent
threshold.
As
to
why
achd
required
the
flashing
Beacon
now
and
didn't
before,
you
know
it's
not
clear.
Maybe
it's
because
the
neighbor
can
the
neighborhood
continued
to
raise
their
concerns,
maybe
it's
because
of
the
larger
size,
but
they
just
hadn't
required
it
before
and
now
they
are
Madam.
H
P
P
AH
R
You
actually
answered
this
question,
but
I
didn't
catch
it,
so
the
railroad
crossing
there's
some
like
neighborhood
concerns
that
it
lacks
sidewalks
on
both
sides
and
does
not
have
a
Crossing
arm.
But
you
mentioned
achd
improvements
in
2026
I.
Believe.
Do
you
know
if
that
includes
Crossings
or
sidewalk
or
anything
along
that
line
is?
Did
you
did
I,
hear
you
wrong
or
Madam.
Q
P
P
P
Q
J
H
J
AG
J
AG
J
Okay,
next
question:
I,
don't
recall
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
from
the
applicant's
side
or
staff
of
there
being
any
commercial
retail
space
flex
space
in
the
seasons,
we
do
have
2
000
square
feet
dedicated
now
with
6
000
of
flex
space.
So
a
two-part
question
make
sure
I'm
clear.
Is
that
assumption
correct
I,
don't
recall
there
being
anything
in
the
seasons
and
my
Subs,
my
my
follow-up
with
this
being.
J
I'm
gonna
go
with
about
3
000
people
residents
at
two
and
a
half
people
per
structure
for
both
for
both
applications.
Here.
Do
we
feel
that
2000
I'm
gonna
go
with
that,
because
the
other
one's
not
guaranteed
of
square
foot
of
commercial
retail
is
adequate
for
three
thousand
potential
clients
right
customers?
We
feel
good
about
that
number.
AG
Madam
chair
commissioner
Danley
first
part
of
your
question
for
seasons
on
the
bench.
This
request
for
some
kind
of
commercial
neighborhood
amenity
was
made.
They
achieved
that
through
a
food
truck
Park,
which
was
situated
on
the
pathway
so
a
little
bit
smaller
scale,
not
much
of
a
permanent,
but
it
did
fulfill
the
request
to
have
a
neighborhood
commercial
type
amenity
in
regards
to
the
amount
of
square
footage
being
requested.
AG
There
is
a
balancing
act,
so
there's
only
about
20
percent
through
the
Pud
process
that
we
could
allow
a
change
in
use,
so
we're
looking
at
majority
of
the
site
being
a
multi-family
residential
product
with
a
square
footage
proposed
in
total.
Eight
thousand
two
thousand,
you
know
guaranteed
with
the
other
6000s
Flex
We
felt
it
was
a
needed
amenity.
Could
it
be
more
possibly,
but
there
are
some
limitations
within
the
Pud
itself.
That
would
limit
that.
J
This
is
a
pretty
specific
question
with
respect
to
the
bicycle
infrastructure.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
more
detailed
schematic
that
we
can
pull
up
and
I
guess
it's
a
question
of
the
probably
more
of
the
applicant
than
it
is
of
Staff,
or
maybe
that's
perfect
right
there
that
one
with
the
purple.
J
What
I'm
noting
is
is
that
you
know
I
think
to
the
applicant's
credit,
there's
a
tremendous
amount
of
pathway
all
around
throughout,
but
then
there's
this
one
section
through
the
purple
section,
that's
on
street
bike
lanes
and
there's
a
transition
from
one
side
of
the
street
to
the
other
as
you're
coming
in
and
out
of
one
of
the
principal
access
points.
So
my
question
is:
why
not
just
make
that
pathway
all
the
way
through?
Why?
Why
have
any
bike
Lanes
at
all
and
just
make
a
dedicated
pathway?
I
mean
you're.
J
J
All
of
a
sudden,
we
transitioned
to
bike
Lanes,
which
is
nothing
but
a
paint
job
right
and
then
we're
asking
people
specifically
at
that
Northern
section
to
go
from
the
right
hand
side
across
the
intersection
to
access
a
path.
So
my
question
is:
why
not
just
make
that
pathway
all
the
way
through
and
just
forego
bike
Lanes
all
together.
Q
As
far
as
your
question
about
well,
does
it
create
a
functional
problem
because
you've
got
to
get
back
over
to
the
single
Lane
I
I,
don't
know
my
understanding
is.
That
was
very
intentional
in
the
way
they
did
that,
though,
so
I
don't
know
if
this
dpz
online,
if
they
have
a
difference,
okay,
okay,
everyone
else
has
anything
to
add
to
that,
but.
Q
Commissioner
Danley,
like
I,
said
I'll,
try
to
get
more
information
from
the
design
team,
but
certainly
the
bike.
The
bike
lanes
are
intended
to
be
functional.
They
go
north,
south
and
east
west
throughout
this
development
in
order
to
carry
bike
traffic,
there's
a
lot
of
intention
about
bike
Lanes,
and
so
whether
I
believe,
there's
also
some
intention
in
this
area
to
create
an
aesthetic
feel
for
it.
Q
D
P
So
going
with
that,
so
the
internal
path
network
is
great,
but
we're
trying
to
get
bikes
out.
If
that's
what
we're
discussing
here.
So
my
question
for
the
staff
is
on
the
recommended.
Conditions
of
approval
is
number
four
I
think
needs
to
get
fixed,
but
I'm
asking
the
question:
provide
a
minimum
12
foot
wide
multi-use
path
on
the
southern
boundary,
that's
along
the
canal
and
a
minimum
10
foot
wide
along
the
western
boundary
I.
Think
that's
a
leftover
from
seasons!
Is
that
correct?
So
we
need
to
fix
that
condition.
Number
four!
AG
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Mooney
that
multi-use
pathway
is
a
Min.
The
12-foot
pathway
is
along
the
South.
That
is
correct
as
it
traverses
along
the
western
boundary,
which
is
shown
in
red
on
the
left
site
plan.
Here
it
can
go
down
to
10,
it
can
remain
at
12.,
but
that
pathway
will
tell
you.
This
pathway
carries
along
the
South
up
the
west
and
across
the
entire
Victory
Frontage.
AG
J
I
think
this
is
a
question
probably
more
of
Staff,
but
if,
if
the
city
wins
out
on
this
Victory
pathway
section
for
the
length
of
both
properties,
a
question
that
I
would
have
is
what
happens
to
the
bookends?
What
are
the
transitions?
Because
it's
especially
on
the
east
side,
it
immediately
transitions
to
the
the
built
neighborhood.
AG
Yeah
Madam
chair
commissioner
Danley
you're
correct.
It
essentially
has
to
end
up
their
Frontage,
so
we
would
work
with
achd
on
the
appropriate
transition.
Ultimately,
Victory
Road
is
identified
in
the
Master's
Bikeway
plan
for
achd,
so
the
intent
is
in
a
future.
You
know
connected.
There
would
be
some
connectivity
through
these.
These
two
projects,
as
well
as
future
plans
with
achd
so
I,
would
just
reiterate
that
we
would
continue
to
work
with
achd
on
the
most
appropriate
Frontage
on
Victory
that
addresses
bike,
Peds
and
vehicles.
H
I
do
have
two
people
on
the
sign
up
list:
Dave
Congress
did
you
want
to
testify
as
an
individual
Dave
or
was
that
for
the
neighborhood
association,
perfect,
thank
you,
Mr
Kangas
and
then
the
next
one
I
have
is
Tami
zokin
and
then,
after
that,
we'll
just
take
anybody
up
to
the
potty
Podium
after
mesokin.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Thank
you.
Commissioners.
AF
My
name
is
Tammy
zokin2016
West
Sunrise
REM
Road.
My
testimony
supplements
my
written
comments
submitted
on
November
28
2022.,
referring
to
the
achd
report
in
your
package,
achd
planning,
supervisor,
Mindy
Wallace
cautioned
that
her
achd
report
is
a
draft
and
there
will
be
edits.
This
means
we
do
not
know
if
achd
will
add
or
remove
safety
measures
or
what
else
they
may
or
may
not
do.
AF
How
can
staff
issue
a
report
and
the
commission
issue
a
decision
when
achd's
review
is
not
complete
and
their
conclusions
are
not
known,
referring
to
the
extremely
dangerous
railroad
crossing
that
every
individual
accessing
Federal
Way
from
West
Victory
must
cross
page
seven
of
achg's
draft
report
says
the
design
of
potential
improvements
to
the
railroad
crossing
is
scheduled
in
2026.
However,
related
right-of-way
and
construction
would
be
some
unknown
and
unplug
unplanned
time
after
that,
so
maybe
someday
after
2026
importantly
just
to
remain
on
that
possibility.
AF
The
city
of
Boise
and
the
neighborhood
association
must
take
action
regarding
the
mitigation
measures
on
Victory
Road
I
am
grateful
that
the
applicant
recognizes
the
need
for
pedestrian
and
bicycle
mitigation
on
West
Victory
and
that
they
included
bull
belts
on
West
Victory
in
their
design.
Page
12
of
achg's
draft
report
says
bulb.
Outs
should
not
be
constructed,
citing
concerns
about
bike
Lanes
an
unprotected
bike
lane
with
without
other
safety
mitigation.
AF
If
the
car
passing
Lane,
if
achd
is
going
to
recommend
against
developers
safety
mitigation
measure
in
the
name
of
bicycle
safety,
it
should
offer
a
substitute
like
raised
medians.
Why
are
bulb
outs
raised
medians
and
other
pedestrian
bicycle
safety
measures
installed
and
even
being
improved
upon
in
other
areas
of
the
city
and
not
this
one?
What
led
to
the
bulb
outs
raised
media
and
speed
bumps
and
stop
signed
intersections
on
crescentrem?
AF
Why
is
it
that
the
highlands
Cove
development,
consisting
of
57
single-family
homes
on
54
Acres,
triggered
concerns
about
pre-development
safety
issues,
triggered
a
neighborhood
traffic
pedestrian
safety
plan
led
to
the
installation
of
off-site
traffic
mitigation
measures?
This
development
will
add
more
than
5
000
ships
per
day
to
West
Victory
Road.
AF
Why
aren't
pedestrian
studies
and
mitigation
measures
deemed
necessary
for
projects
like
that
part
of
this
bigger
one
right
now,
Boise
achd
are
cooperating,
collaborating
on
multiple
projects,
increasing
pedestrian
and
cyclist
safety
in
other
areas
of
the
community
when
achd
and
the
City
of
Boise
think
safety
and
accessibility
is
important.
They
collaborate
and
they
find
a
way
to
build
it.
Why
is
it
important
in
other
Boise
communities
in
being
disregarded
in
this
community?
Please
do
not
approve
the
subdivision
without
addressing
safety
on
West
Victory
Road.
Thank
you.
H
C
My
name
is
Ron
Ferguson
I'm
in
1924,
West,
Sunrise
rim
and
I'm
I'm
here
just
to
I
want
to
agree
with
them
everything
that
Dave
said
about
the
where
Vista
neighborhood
association
stands
I'd
like
to
throw
that
in.
If
I,
don't
say
something
I
don't
get
a
chance
later
but-
and
you
know,
I'll
have
to
excuse
the
lack
of
eloquence
anyway.
C
This
has
happened
again.
I
stood
up
here
well
at
another
meeting
back
when
I
was
at
45
feet
and
they
wanted
an
extension
and
then
they
were
getting
the
extension
at
that
time,
asking
for
it
and
I
stood
up
and
said
where's
this
going
to
end
now,
I,
don't
know
where
we're
at
right
now,
but
we're
up
to
60
68
and
after
all
of
this
is
over
I.
Don't
know
if
we're
going
to
try
for
another
12
feet
or
not
for
another
story,
it's
that's
a
question
that
was
in
my
mind.
C
I
I
do
know
that
or
I
at
least
I
feel
that
the
the
height
is
aesthetically.
Just
it's
it's.
It's
tough
enough
for
having
everything
taken
away
from
us.
As
far
as
view
goes,
but
I
think
that's
going
to
make
it
a
little
bit
worse
and
as
for
view,
I
guess
I've
been
lucky
for
47
years
to
have
a
pretty
good
view,
and
it's
in
it's
all
going
to
go
away.
C
C
We
will
no
longer
be
able
to
see
the
deer,
the
coyotes,
the
Ducks,
the
geese,
the
and
there's
a
numerous
other
animals
foxes
and
that's
all
going
to
go
away
because
the
and
all
the
Predators
like
the
Hawks
and
the
Eagles
and
and
other
birds
will
you
know
we
won't
get
that
but
I
like
to
say
I'm,
I,
guess
alone,
the
short
of
it
is
I'm.
I'm
opposed
to
opposed
to
the
increase.
I
know
that
I
can't
stop
progress.
C
AH
Hello,
thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
my
name
is
Emily.
Fritzman,
mahaney
and
I
live
at
3329,
South,
Annette
Avenue,
that's
Boise
83705.,
so
I
will
go
with
Mr
Kangas
said
that
we
greatly
appreciate,
in
particular
the
time
and
energy
that
the
developers
have
taken
to
meet
with
the
neighbors.
That's
been
really
extraordinary.
That
being
said,
I
also
have
a
couple
of
concerns.
Just
recapping.
AH
We
were
excited
to
see
this
working
class,
neighborhood
grow
and
other
people
enjoy
it.
As
we
have,
that
being
said,
as
a
South
Boise
native
I
can
see
a
few
parallels
between
what
has
happened
in
that
neighborhood
and
what
we
now
see
happening
in
this
one,
in
addition
to
the
concerns
expressed
by
Mr
Kangas
regarding
foot
and
vehicle
traffic,
I
would
also
argue
that
part
of
continuing
to
make
Boise
great
for
everyone.
Of
course,
both
new
and
old
folks
means
preserving
and
enhancing
existing
neighborhoods
in
the
appropriate
way.
AH
Therefore,
new
developments
should
be
compatible
with
the
character
of
that
existing
neighborhood.
The
large
apartment
complex,
whose
height
far
exceeds
the
initial
45
feet
proposed
by
the
developer,
and
the
extensive
additional
commercial
space,
is
certainly
not
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
single
family.
Blue-Collar
neighborhood,
with
lots
of
small
children,
animals,
families,
seniors
the
bike,
Lanes
to
Nowhere
the
clear
problems
with
traffic
and
pedestrian
flow,
unsafe
bike
lanes,
you've
heard
it
all
already
and
exceedingly
High
apartment
complexes.
AH
It's
clear
that
this
product
is
not
conducive
with
Boise's
values
of
safety,
nor
compatible
with
the
neighborhood
as
a
whole.
Please
consider
evaluating
safety
concerns,
consider
the
impact
this
project
will
have
on
the
surrounding
community
and
think
about
the
impacts
that
this
particular
project
will
have
on
the
neighborhood
and
what
can
be
changed
appropriately.
Thank.
H
Z
Z
AD
AD
AD
I
also
want
to
comment
on
the
single
family,
home
transition
Zones
near
the
edges
of
the
lot
allowing
these
for
Town
Homes
instead
would
allow
more
residents
to
enjoy
this
fantastic
development
while
still
being
a
transition
zone,
and
so,
rather
than
making
the
inside
border
of
an
R3
Zone
effectively
in
r1c
Let
It,
Be
Still
a
compatible,
but
slightly
higher
density
and
Zone.
This
is
a
great
opportunity.
AD
H
H
Otherwise
Crystal
did
pop
the
phone
number
we're
still
not
hearing
you,
Kathleen
Crystal
popped
the
phone
number
into
the
chat,
so
please
maybe
try
calling
in
on
a
mobile
device
and
and
we'll
see
if
we
can
get
you
connected,
we're
still
not
hearing
you,
okay.
So
then
I'm
gonna,
move
on
to
the
next
hand,
is
Miss,
Tali,
Natasha,
Tali
and
then
Lisa
Baker,
so
miss
Tully.
Please
go
ahead
and
unmute
you'll
have
three
minutes.
Please
start
with
your
name
and
address.
AI
All
right,
my
name
is
Natasha
Tully
and
I
reside
at
2750,
West
Palouse
Street
I
have
a
couple
issues
that
I
would
like
to
address
the
first
one
really
is
that
height
variance,
that's
being
requested.
23
feet
is
extensive
for
height
variance.
There
is
no
there's
really
no
legal
re
reason
why
they
would
need
it
or
undo
hardship
in
that
amount
of
space.
They
could
increase
the
height
on
other
units
that
are
much
lower
and
still
maintain
the
same
density.
AI
AI
And,
lastly,
it
is
really
that
traffic
impact
being
in
this
neighborhood
driving
down
that
road
from
Victory
to
Federal
Way,
which
many
people
do
going
over,
that
railroad
crossing
where
there
are
no
pedestrian
sidewalks
I've
ridden
my
bike
I
commute
that
area
we
talk
about.
This
is
a
great
area
to
be
in
absolutely
because
there's
many
community
centers,
but
guess
what
the
community
center
that
we
judge
by
the
Fred
Meyers
and
the
Federal
Way
shopping
area.
AI
There
isn't
a
safe
bike
path
to
get
there
and
with
the
increase
of
1400
units
with
both
places.
We
need
that
infrastructure.
First,
before
we
go
forward
with
this
development,
it's
important
to
look
at
everything
holistically
to
create
a
safe
neighborhood
and
the
neighborhood
that
everyone
wants
to
continue
to
live
in,
because
there's
safe
spaces
to
walk
and
exercise
and
and
do
self-motivated
Transportation.
So
that's
all
I
have
to
say
thank
you.
H
AJ
I
live
at
2110,
Sunrise,
Rim,
Road,
Boise
Idaho.
My
testimony
is
in
opposition
of
The
Proposal
that
Layton
construction
and
willpower
have
proposed
I
do
appreciate
the
points
that
Dave,
Kangas
and
others
have
brought
forward.
I
also
appreciate
Leighton
and
well
Tower
neighborhood
meetings.
However,
from
the
beginning
of
this
process,
through
four
neighborhood
meetings,
Leighton
has
been
aware
of
the
neighborhood
concerns
about
the
height
of
the
apartments
traffic,
railroad
crossing
and
safety
concerns
the
initial
proposals
and
promises
that
were
where
that
the
height
would
be
held
at
40
45
feet.
AJ
Maximum
allowed
in
R3
subsequent
proposals
have
brought
brought
increased
height
to
the
podium
Apartments.
Despite
how
the
neighborhood
expressed
concerns,
several
suggestions
from
the
neighborhood
meetings
recommended
underground
parking
instead
of
first
floor
parking
and
moving
the
Mechanicals
from
the
top
of
the
podium
Apartments
to
the
ground,
to
keep
the
height
down
to
45.
AJ
under
the
R3
requirement.
The
proposed
68
height
is
unacceptable
and
never
discussed
with
with
residents.
Nor
was
it,
nor
was
it
rendering
provided,
as
others
had
been.
There
is
no
hardship.
The
Lotus
33
Acres
relatively
flat,
although
it
does
slope
higher
to
the
east
side
of
the
lot.
The
developers
have
had
every
opportunity
to
go
underground
with
their
parking
and
move
the
Mechanicals
from
the
top
to
the
ground,
avoiding
the
need
for
a
variance
or
height
exception.
AJ
As
stated
earlier
in
previous
testimony,
there
they
have
over
10
acres
in
which
to
place
them
on
the
ground.
Blueprint
right,
Boise
states
that
the
development
could
not
harm
cannot
cause
harm
to
surrounding
homeowners.
In
neighborhood,
the
height
exception
to
68
feet
would
certainly
block
block
the
pristine
views
of
the
Boise
front
for
homeowners,
paying
view
taxes
on
Sunrise
Rim.
These
views
are
rare
and
they
can
only
happen
along
Rim
Lots
Boise
blueprint
also
mentions
predictability.
AJ
How
our
development,
like
this
predictable,
when
numerous
exceptions,
variances
and
waivers,
are
suggested
even
promoted
by
the
city
of
Boise,
to
meet
their
goals
yet
ignored
the
concerns,
values
and
quality
of
life
for
current
residents.
The
suggestion
of
on-street
parking
on
Victory,
with
its
impending
development
congestion,
does
not
sound
like
a
solution
that
will
fit
the
neighborhood
with
the
limited
access
to
main
roads.
AJ
H
AK
My
name
is
Alan
silif
I'm
at
1500,
Sunrise
rim,
I
I
I,
know
that
the
city
has
worked
with
other
developments.
On
view
lots.
One
of
those
lots
is
almost
to
completion.
It's
on
protest
in
Boise
Avenue.
They
worked
so
good
with
the
neighborhoods
that
had
the
views
that
they
they
did
do
underground
parking.
They
did
reduce
the
height
and
they
went
as
far
to
not
restrict
the
views
as
they
had
a
green
roof
and
removed
the
air
conditioning
units
from
the
top
of
the
building.
AK
AK
AK
This
is
my
neighborhood
I,
don't
have
to
go
down
to
Albertsons,
I
can
go
in
here
and
I.
Don't
have
to
get
in
my
car
and
go
places
so
I
I
really
hope
that
you
guys
don't
set
a
precedence
with
the
height,
because
Boise
is
known
as
the
city
of
trees
and
those
will
be
gone
and
we'll
be
just
buildings
just
like
any
other
City,
so
I
I
hope
you
guys
reconsider
and
and
don't
let
them
have
that
height
variance.
AK
C
H
AL
Yes,
my
name
is
Lisa
Baker
and
I
live
at
3152,
South,
Virginia,
Avenue
I,
don't
have
any
issue
with
the
increased
density.
This
development
will
bring,
but
I
do
have
an
issue
with
a
number
of
proposed
parking
spots
that
are
planned
for
the
facility
as
I
understand
it.
These
rental
units
are
going
to
be
offered
at
market
rate
and,
as
we
know
in
Boise,
it
takes
at
least
two
wage
earners
to
afford
housing
at
market
rate.
AL
So
we
only
have
one
parking
space
give
or
take
per
unit
we're
going
to
have
two
wage
earners
who
have
to
have
a
car
to
have
a
job
in
Boise,
so
those
extra
cars
are
going
to
spill
out
into
our
neighborhood.
We're
already
experiencing
this
on
my
end
of
Victory,
where,
when
we
try
and
exit
on
Virginia
Avenue
onto
Victory,
there
are
so
many
cars
parked
on
Victory.
We
can't
see
oncoming
traffic,
so
it's
very
unsafe
to
exit
our
subdivision.
AL
So
I
would
like
to
have
some
consideration
given
to
the
safety
issues
of
it's
fine
if
we
have
increased
density,
but
these
people
are
going
to
need
to
have
some
place
to
park,
and
hopefully
that's
not
on
street,
because
that
does
not
create
a
livable
condition
for
our
neighborhood
and
I.
Appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
hear
from
me.
H
AM
AM
H
AM
The
one
on
the
right
is
a
clip
of
this
proposed
development
and
it's
placed
in
the
middle
of
the
North
End
and
they
were
taken
from
the
same
height
perspectives
and
everything,
and
you
can
see
how
much
more
dense
this
project
is.
Then
some
of
our
well-established
was
instructing
to
see
what
they're
trying
to
fit
in
there.
On
the
left
side,
I've
taken
a
clip
of
the
North
End
and
I've
pasted
it
in
to
this
Victory
Road
parcel.
AM
If
you
were
listening,
I'm
sure
you
were
north
of
Victory
is
all
r1c
urgently
each
and,
as
is
the
sunrise
rim
and
I,
think
compatibility
is
one
of
the
things
that
makes
development
work,
perhaps
45
years
from
now,
if
it
needed
to
be
high
density.
That
might
be
a
time
for
somebody
to
buy
some
of
these
houses,
but
compatibility
means
height
and
density
and
type
of
use
and
I
feel,
like
some
things
are
being
pushed
for.
The
developers
benefit
that
aren't
taking
the
neighborhood
into
consideration.
AM
H
E
E
I
welcome
change,
but
it
really
needs
to
be
thoughtful
when
projects
of
these
magnitude
are
entering
our
neighborhood
infrastructure
in
the
area
is
needed
in
order
for
development
to
happen
rather
than
after
the
fact
that
development
has
happened,
the
railroad
crossing
is
not
safe
and
it
has
narrow
travel
lanes
and
steep
drop-offs
on
both
sides.
And
additionally,
there
is
no
way
for
a
bicyclist
to
access
the
Federal
Way
bike
lane,
which
is
an
awesome
bike
lane,
but
there's
no
crosswalks
to
get
across
Federal
Way
and
then
the
same
with
Vista
Avenue.
E
There
are
no
bike
lanes
and
it's
just
not
safe
to
bike
on
the
road,
with
it
being
so
heavily
trafficked
by
vehicles
and
then,
lastly,
this
is
a
wide
open
and
flat
parcel.
So
why
is
the
developer
asking
for
a
hardship,
I
believe
that
they
should
not
be
granted
a
variance
with
no
documented
hardship
in
place?
Thank
you
for
considering
my
thoughts.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
Commissioners.
To
start
with
a
few
of
the
items
we
do
have
sufficient
parking.
The
the
site
has
all
the
parking,
that's
required
by
the
Boise
city
code
between
our
under
the
the
podium
parking,
the
Tucker
garages,
the
garages
that
are
provided
with
the
single
family
residences
and
on
the
streets,
and
the
number
of
those
exceeds
at
369,
provided
to
the
1224
required
on
the
height
issues.
As
as
was
noted,
this
isn't
a
variance,
and
so
it
is
a
conditional
use
permit.
Q
So
we're
looking
at
compatibility
and
lack
of
adverse
impacts,
and
so
that's
what
we've
tried
to
address,
certainly
from
a
youth
standpoint,
we're
talking
about
a
residential
use
and
so
we're
adjacent
to
residential
uses
and
and
that's
what's
at
issue.
In
this
height,
it
is
created
by
the
commercial
opportunity,
that's
requested
by
staff
and
many
of
the
neighbors.
That
does
add
that
commercial
height
to
the
first
floor,
which
elevates
it
even
a
little
further.
But
again,
these
are
compatible
uses
with
the
neighboring
properties.
Q
Only
30
percent
of
that
top
roof
line
is
at
the
63.5
feet
to
the
roof.
That's
the
rest
of
it
is
the
fourth
floor,
which
is
only
at
49
feet
to
the
roof
line,
which
is
barely
above
the
the
45
feet
allowed
in
the
R3
Zone.
Keep
in
mind
that
this
property
is
designated
as
mixed
use
in
your
comprehensive
plan,
which
calls
for
a
number
of
zones
being
compatible,
including
the
RO
Zone,
has
a
height
of
65
feet
and
other
zones
that
could
accommodate
higher
Heights.
Q
Here,
we've
chosen
to
go
with
the
R3
to
focus
on
the
residential,
which
is
appropriate
and
needed
here
appropriate
in
this
location,
but
do
ask
for
a
small
portion
of
the
site
to
have
that
additional
height
allowed.
It
allows
the
site
to
create
a
smaller
area
of
of
a
verticality,
and
it
keeps
us
from
spreading
this
same
number
of
units.
A
lot
of
people
said
just
keep
the
number
of
units.
We
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
density
spread
them
out.
But
what
happens
then?
Is
you
just
get
more
uniform
Apartments
spread
out
further.
Q
It
decreases
the
housing
variety
that
we've
really
tried
to
work
hard
to
accomplish
here.
That's
called
Foreigner
comprehensive
plan
and
was
supported
by
planning
staff
in
this
unique
design,
and
so
there's
it's
very
intentional-
to
try
to
do
that.
You
could
do
it
without
that.
You
could
spread
them
out,
but
you
don't
get
this
kind
of
unique
development
and
we
did
work
hard
to
try
to
demonstrate
to
you
and
to
the
neighbors
that,
while
we're
doing
that,
we're
also
compatible
with
those
surrounding
uses.
Q
We
are
hundreds
of
feet
set
back
450
to
the
closest
single
family,
as
was
noted
and
closer
to
600
feet
for
most
of
the
the
homes
on
the
rim
that
are
the
closest
and
so
we're
we're
talking
about
significant
setbacks.
With
the
view
perspectives
that
were
done,
we
are
not
interrupting
their
views
of
the
Foothills
and,
of
course
this
was
pointed
out
by
one
of
the
commenters.
They
have
no
right
to
a
view.
Q
They
have
no
legal
right
to
that,
and
yet
we
are
trying
to
be
sensitive
to
that,
and
so
we
did
show
that
that
they
are
preserving
their
views
of
the
Foothills
there
in
that
front
range
and
was
also,
as
was
also
pointed
out,
by
a
commenter
apartment.
The
apartment
units,
hundreds
of
them
will
also
gain
a
view
which
is
a
nice
bonus
for
the
rental
Community.
Here
that
we'll
gain
from
this
from
this
development,
it
is
not
financially
feasible
to
go
down,
nor
is
it
practical.
Q
With
the
groundwater
level,
we'd
have
to
be
couldn't
go
very
far
and
have
to
deal
with
waterproofing
issues
from
the
groundwater,
and
this
is
not
usually,
you
just
see
underground
podiums
in
your
Urban
core,
where
you
have
a
very
small
acreage,
and
you
have
to
do
that
to
accommodate
parking
which
we
don't
have
to
here
quickly.
Commissioner
Danley,
you
asked
about:
where
do
the
bike
Lanes
go?
Q
What
what
first
of
all
talking
about
external
on
Victory,
Road
I,
just
want
to
point
out
and
I,
don't
know
if
we
have
time
to
pull
up
any
of
my
slides,
but
achg
has
a
proposed
Bikeway
that
goes
along
canal
and
it
connects
pretty
directly
across
rather
than
turning
down
towards
Victory.
Thank
you.
You
can
see
this
here
and
it's
actually
kind
of
covered
up
by
the
red
dotted
line,
but
there
underneath
that
is
a
purple
line.
Q
That's
the
proposed
achd
Bikeway
that
goes
across
Canal
turns
up
a
net
and
then
comes
across
Malad
and
it
will
go
across
where
you've
got
that
the
flashing
light
Beacon
that
will
be
added
now,
and
so
yes,
we
funnel
a
small
distance
here,
but
now,
with
the
cross
crossing
the
raised
Crossings
three
of
our
access
points,
we
will
feed
up
into
that
Bikeway.
And
so
yes,
we
hope
Victory
is
also
has
established
and
connected
bike
lanes,
and
we
will
continue
to
work
with
achd
and
City
staff
on
the
design.
Q
That's
preferred
here,
but
at
the
same
time
we
are
contributing
to
the
the
bikeways
in
the
community.
I
won't
have
time
to
address
your
concerns
about
the
bikeways
internal,
but
I'll
just
quickly
say
that
there
was
very
a
lot
of
intentionality
about
separating
the
bike
Lanes
around
the
islands
where
there's
one-way
traffic,
and
then
they
do
have
to
feed
back
into
a
a
two-way
Bikeway
where
they
are
next
to
each
other,
and
that
was
tried
to
do
with
the
least
amount
of
interference
internally
to
keep
it
functional.
Thank
you,
Mr
also,
thank
you.
B
AL
V
V
So
the
first
one
is:
is
it
compatible
to
other
uses?
I
think
the
answer
is
yes,
it
is
with
spec
with
resp
specific
regard
to
the
hype
request
in
the
conditional
use.
Permit
I
agree
with
the
applicant
that,
because
of
the
spacing
and
where
those
tall
buildings
are
located,
I
don't
think
it
creates
a
material
adverse
impact
for
any
of
the
neighbors
and
I
think
it
is
compatible
and
I
think
that
there
are
some
trade-offs
there.
V
I
would
understand
if
someone
didn't
agree
with
that,
because
they
just
get
hung
up
on
the
45
number
I
myself.
We
can
discuss
how
this
is
different
than
loggers
at
some
point.
If
you
want
to
or
Trappers
Crossing
sorry,
but
suffice
it
to
say,
Trappers
was
right
on
top
of
Ann
Morrison
Park.
So
that
was
the
issue
there
issue
two
is
the
harder
when
the
undue
burden
on
Transportation
I'm
willing,
I
I'm,
not
smart
enough
to
figure
out.
V
What's
the
AC
HD
report
does
and
and
doesn't
do
completely,
I
tended
to
defer
to
the
achd
as
the
traffic
expert.
If
we
want
to
put
a
bunch
of
conditions
on
this
development
relative
to
what
achd
in
the
city
should
do,
I'm
I
would
support
those
I
wish.
The
process
was
more
complete
with
respect
to
three
and
four.
The
site
is
large,
enough.
I
think
it
is
and
I
don't
think
it
will
adversely
impact
other
properties
in
the
vicinity.
V
I
think
it's
designed
very
well
not
to
do
that
and
the
only
adverse
impact
we
really
have
the
forest
is
the
traffic
and
the
multimodal
issues
and
how
that
works
as
well
as
the
height.
So
that's
where
I'm
at
but
I
would
support
the
project
as
it
is
before
us,
and
if
folks,
when
they
add
some
multimodal
Transportation
conditions,
I'd
be
interested
in
hearing
what
those
are.
H
R
Frost
a
quick
comment:
I
kind
of
got
hung
up
on
the
height
too
I,
wanted
it
to
be
45
feet,
but
then
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
project
on
whole,
like
the
diversity
in
the
housing
and
the
way
that
there's
the
single
family
homes,
really
they
could
go
in
there
and
throw
45
feet
across
the
entire
piece
of
property.
And
then
what
you
would
have
is
like
the
applicant
pointed
out.
You
would
have
a
bunch
of
apartment
buildings,
I.
Think
they've
spent
a
lot
of
time.
R
Designing
this
and
all
they're
asking
for
is
a
small.
You
know
portion
of
this
property
internal
to
the
whole
project
itself.
To
be
you
know,
23
feet
higher
and
I
think
what
you
get
out
of
that
as
a
neighborhood.
Is
you
get
the
diverse
housing
you
get
the
neighborhoods
the
open
areas
and
I
think
it
makes
for
a
really
great
project
and
I?
V
Is
there
there's
more
discussions,
okay,
I
guess
where
I'm
at
is?
We
have
some
guys
here
who,
on
the
commission
who,
who
you
know,
have
a
really
good
I
mean
this?
Is
their
job
yeah,
so
I
guess
I
would
ask
those
folks,
you
know:
where
do
you
stand
and
and
are
there
any
conditions
you
would
add
or,
for
example,
do
you
support
a
deferral
until
this
sort
of
process
that
has
been
sort
of
informally
brought
up
by
by
the
director
is
complete?
I
mean
I'm
I'm
interested
in
what
you
guys
think
Madam.
P
C
H
Yeah
I
think,
maybe
just
for
a
reminder
we're
just.
We
are
recommending
body
on
both
the
car
and
the
SUV
and
final
decision
maker
for
the
Pud,
so
I
I
do
see
that
there
could
be
an
opportunity
instead
of
a
deferral,
to
voice
our
concerns
and
leave
a
recommendation
for
city
council
and
then
they're
going
to
have
to
go
through
the
process
before
they
get
to.
You
know,
by
the
time
they
get
to
this
one.
They
will
have
made
decisions
on
some
other
projects
and
so
I
think
perhaps
holistically.
H
J
Madam,
chair
I,
have
a
question.
It's
more
of
a
point
of
order.
Question
actually
because
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear,
because
for
the
obvious
reasons,
my
understanding
is
with
respect
to
the
transportation
issues
that
is
more
aligned
with
the
site
plan
with
that
is
aligned
with
the
D.A
with
what
is
aligned
with
the
rezone
and
the
sub
in
which
we
are
a
recommending
body.
J
The
height
exception,
I,
believe,
is
aligned
with
the
Pud,
because
it
is,
it
is
a
not
a
variance
correct
in
terms
of
of
there
being
a
hardship,
but
it's
a
conditional
use,
request
correct
in
which
this
case
we
are
the
deciding
body
correct.
So
we
have
a
obligation
to
set
up
the
council
for
a
an
informed
decision
on
the
two
issues
and
we
need
to
make
a
decision
on
the
height
exception,
because
it's
housed
in
a
situation
where
we
are
required
to
make
yeah
the
decision.
Yes,.
H
V
I,
you
know
to
me:
it's
traffic
and
height
I
think
Chris,
accurate
Chris
Danley
accurately
summarized
that
the
Pud
houses,
the
height
issue,
I've
spoken
about
that
I'm
comfortable
with
the
achd
report
as
it
is
I
wish
there
was
a
more
holistic
solution.
It's
my
personal
view
that
this
commission
can't
impose
off-site
requirements
in
a
land
use.
Permit
I,
understand,
good
Minds
differ
on
that
issue,
but
that's
where
I'm
at
thank.
H
I
Is
that
a
lot
of
times
this
isn't
the
venue
for
settling
these
kinds
of
things
so
I
mean
like
right
now
we
have
an
ongoing
process
on
rewriting
the
zoning
code
ordinance
and
in
the
city
of
Boise,
and
so,
if
this
is,
if
you're
concerned
with
the
way
the
city
is
developing,
that's
the
venue
is
to
get
involved
in
that
and
make
sure
that
your
voice
is
being
heard,
because
I
can
tell
you
a
lot
of
us
deal
with
this.
A
lot
of
the
time
and
single-use
Zoning
is
going
away.
I
R1
is
going
away.
These
are
all
things
of
the
past.
Build
for
rent
communities
are
only
going
to
only
going
to
grow
more
and
more
and
more,
and
these
are
all
things
that
that
people
need
to
be
aware
of
and
I
know
it's
hard.
You
know
we
all
work
jobs
and
raise
families
and
all
that
stuff,
but
most
of
the
time
pnz
is
not
the
place
to
address
those
things.
A
lot
of
us
have
also
spent
years,
commissioner
Danley
and
others
will
remember.
I
I
Many
many
moons
for
a
lot
of
us
and
so
as
much
as
you
know,
I
think
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
say:
hey,
let's
you
know
make:
let's
have
these
guys
do
this
and
make
sure
they're
going
to
do
their
part.
We
just
we
just
simply
don't
have
the
authority
to
do
it.
So
as
far
as
height
goes
just
simply,
you
know
we're
trading
off
the
height
for
better
design.
I
J
J
J
Think
one
of
the
things
I
haven't
really
heard
is
that
and
even
in
the
renderings,
which
I
genuinely
appreciate
the
attempt
by
the
applicant
to
to
make
available
is
the
presence
of
trees
is
the
softening
of
these
buildings
and
the
views
and
the
things
that
we
all
love
is
that
as
this
community
potentially
grows
in
these
tree,
canopies
grow
and
fill
these
hard
edges
and
things
that
we
are
showing
and
depicting
are
going
to
eventually
start
to
fade.
It's
not
going
to
solve
Ivory
problem,
but
it's
definitely
going
to
make
it
better.
J
It's
a
mitigation
that
I
think
we
all
love
so
for
for
I,
don't
see
a
hardship
or
not
a
hardship,
but
I,
don't
see
in
terms
of
the
cup
I
think
everything
has
been
pretty
much
met.
I,
don't
have
any
other
objections
to
this
to
the
Pud,
so
I'll
be
supportive
of
that
on
the
sub.
I
actually
think
I
need
to
try
to
thread
a
needle
here
and
submit
an
amendment
to
the
original
motion,
at
least
for
discussion.
J
The
amendment
is
as
follows
that
in
the
terms
and
conditions
in
the
staff
report
that
the
pathway
design
proposed
by
the
applicant
move
forward
to
counsel
my
other
term
or
my
other
Amendment
would
be
that
this
was
a
tricky
one.
Forgive
me
if
I
get
this
wrong,
that
the
Boise
school
district
submit
a
letter
to
the
city
council
determining
the
adequacy
of
existing
capacity
that
would
serve
specifically
these
two
applications.
I'll
leave
it
at
that
for
any
discussion,
so
I
don't
mess
it
up
anymore.
V
J
There's,
if
there's,
if
I'm
missing,
if
I'm
messing
that
up
then
by
all
means
correct
me.
But
my
interpretation
specifically
as
well
as
it
comes
from
the
achd
report,
was
that
the
recommendation
from
the
achd
report
is
that
the
pathway
not
go
forward
on
on
Victory,
because
it
doesn't
fit
their
collector
standard
and
they
are
asking
it
to
go
forward
as
a
recommendation
that
it
be
a
bike
lane
and
a
detached
sidewalk.
V
V
If
the
sector
agrees,
I'd
like
to
amend
the
main
Mo
and
no
one
objects,
I'd
like
to
amend
the
main
motion
to
add
a
condition
that
the
applicants
proposed,
multi-use,
multi-use,
pathway
on
Victory
be
built
and
that
the
achd
requirement
is
is
waived
in
our
condition,
so
we
have
a
condition.
But
that
says
you
have
to
meet
the
achd
requirement,
but
Chris
is
basically
saying.
Is
you
have
to
meet
the
acht's
requirement,
except
for
their
point
on
the
pathway?
I
AN
I
I
AN
H
H
H
H
AN
AF
J
Commissioner
Danley,
if
I
may
I
want
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this
motion
and
the
SUV
and
rezone.
If
I
can
this
achd
specific
report
is
a
Christmas
miracle?
It
is
the
season
and
that's
what
I
see.
That's
what
I
read.
That's,
how
I
read
it
because
I've
in
all
my
time
of
being
in
this
Valley
with
16
17
years,
having
worked
at
achd
and
read
countless
reports,
I've,
never
seen
a
report
from
that
body.
That
looks
like
the
one
that
we
have
for
this
application.
J
The
requirements
of
this
applicant
are,
unlike
anything,
I've
ever
seen,
raised
crosswalks
on
three
different
locations:
Road
trust
funds
for
for
Speed,
bumps,
rapid,
flash
beacons
and
pedestrian
hybrid
beacons,
which
is
not
cheap
by
the
way
connections
all
over
the
place,
in
addition
to
the
physical
improvements,
and,
hopefully,
a
pathway
directly
out
front
for
the
long
for
the
length
of
the
application
or
for
the
for
the
the
the
the
property.
The
internal
Street
system,
in
my
professional
opinion,
is
as
a
practicing
Transportation
planner
they're
great.
J
The
pathway
additions
that
run
around
the
perimeter
of
this
property
are
fantastic,
so
in
in
condition
in
conjunction
between
achd
and
what
is
in
front
of
us
from
a
transportation
perspective.
I
frankly,
think
that
we
have
an
incredible
application
in
front
of
us,
not
just
a
good
one.
That's
my
that's
my
professional
hat
speaking
so
kudos
to
the
district,
hopefully
they're,
listening
as
well
as
the
applicant.
So
with
respect
to
all
of
the
rest
of
it,
the
rezone
I
mean
it's
surrounded
by
residential,
it's
centrally
located.
J
You
know
it's
on
what
a
mile
and
a
half
two
miles
or
whatever
it
is
from
downtown
and
our
employment
Hub
it's
a
mile
from
the
airport.
Everything
about
this
makes
sense
to
me.
So
I
you
know,
can
continue,
but
won't
you
know
over.
Ultimately,
however,
it
would
be
absolutely
in
support
of
the
the
rezone
and
the
sub
and
recommend
approval
to
council.
P
P
I
I
think
commissioner
danley's
comments
about
Christmas
and
the
achd
report.
I
was
cheering
over
here
because
but
I
really
want
to
commend
staff
I.
Think
City
staff
is
why
that
happened
and
I
thank
staff
for
for
making
that
happen
and
working
with
achd
staff
to
make
it
happen,
because
the
achd
report
responding
to
Mr
kangas's
comments,
never
seen
anything
like
it,
I
mean
so
that
was
commendable
and
outstanding
and
I'm,
obviously
in
support
of
it
now.
P
H
D
V
B
B
B
R
B
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
and
I
believe
that
leaves
us
with
item
number
seven
tonight:
CVA
22-33
Nick,
Van
heel,
1305,
North,
Harris
Boulevard.
This
is
a
variance
to
encroach
on
the
side,
yard
side,
Street
side
setback
for
a
pool
on
0.36
Acres
on
R1
CH
Zone,
and
we
are
right
here
from
Joyce
Johnson,
with
staff
to
start.
F
F
The
subject
parcel
is
.36
acres
and
contains
an
existing
4928
square.
Foot
single-family
home
the
contributing
historic
home
was
built
in
1906
on
the
west
portion
of
the
lot
abutting
the
adjacent
alley
and
rear
property
line.
The
applicants
proposed
to
build
a
16
by
32
foot
pool
within
the
street
side
setback
south
of
the
home.
F
There
is
sufficient
space
on
the
property
for
the
proposed
pool
to
be
constructed
adjacent
to
the
south
side
of
the
home,
while
maintaining
the
required
Street
side
setback.
In
conclusion,
The
applicant's
Proposal
does
not
comply
with
approval
criteria
for
a
variance
permit
and,
as
such,
the
planning
team
recommends
denial.
The
commission
makes
a
final
decision.
Thank
you
and
I'll
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Okay.
B
X
Okay,
our
paperwork
asked
us
to
describe
a
hardship
or
exceptional
circumstance
for
our
variance
request,
and
we
have
two
exceptional
circumstances.
As
Joyce
showed
the
way
the
property
sits,
we
don't
have
all
the
land
is
in
the
front
yard.
We
don't
have
a
backyard
if
we
were
to
accommodate
the
20-foot
setback
from
our
side
of
the
sidewalk.
The
pool
would
be
literally
like
six
feet
from
our
house,
so
in
terms
of
that,
in
addition,
there
is
a
nine
foot
parking
strip
and
a
six
foot
sidewalk,
so
we're
already.
X
The
fence
line
is
15
off
this
off
the
street.
More
importantly,
the
home
is
a
beautiful,
Harrison,
Boulevard
historic
home.
It's
one
of
the
jewels
of
Boise.
It's
a
turtle
Hut
in
Hummel
home,
the
last
family
lived
there
for
70
years,
the
Hans
Burgers
Claire
and
Bob,
and
they
took
extremely
good
care
of
the
home
and
we
regard
it
not
necessarily
as
our
home,
but
just
that
we
are
stewards
of
that
beautiful
house
and
we
do
not
want
to
ruin
the
landscape.
B
AO
B
T
Good
evening
Commissioners
this
thing's
still
getting
set
up
here.
All
right,
you
can
hear
me
I,
take
it
yeah.
We
can
hear
you
Eric
yeah,
please
yeah
I'm,
still
here
getting
a
lot
of
work
done,
while
I'm
waiting
for
you
guys.
My
name
is
Eric
Hagan
809,
North,
18th,
Street
I'm,
the
North
End
neighborhood
association
representative.
T
It's
interesting
that
the
applicant
mentions
all
the
work
that
they've
done
on
the
lot,
because,
as
we're
looking
at
this,
we
were,
we
noticed,
there's
like
a
huge
wall
or
line
of
what
appear
to
be
cypress
trees
that
have
been
planted
recently,
going
all
the
way
across
the
front
of
the
side,
which
I
can
only
imagine
not
being
a
landscape,
architect,
Mr
Schaefer.
Probably
you
could
probably
answer
this
better,
but
I
think
cypress
trees
grow
up
to
be
pretty
large
and
I
can
only
imagine.
T
This
is
going
to
be
a
large,
a
wall
of
trees
in
front
of
the
property
which
would
obscure
any
view
of
the
property,
as
well
as
the
pool
that
would
be
back
there.
I
couldn't
find
a
permit
for
that,
nor
the
fence
that
goes
around
the
front
of
the
property
either
and
both
of
them
appear
to
be
within
the
view
triangle
of
the
corner,
as
well
as
at
the
driveway
and
at
the
alley,
and
then
there
was
also
no
permit
that
we
could
find
for
the
removal
of
the
large
tree
that
would
go.
T
B
B
B
AP
AP
Until
lately
last
few
years
things
have
gone.
A
little
awry
and
I
was
really
disappointed
in
the
removal
of
the
old
growth
spruce
trees
in
that
yard
devastated.
Not
only
did
it
complement
that
house,
it
complemented
the
neighborhood.
It
was
amazing.
Old
growth
trees
also
are
very
effective
at
reducing
the
carbon
footprint
as
well,
and
it
seems
like
we're
no
longer
concerned
about
the
environment
or
the
unique
character
and
Landscape
at
the
North
End,
because
we're
willing
to
remove
all
that
makes
the
North
End
iconic
to
make
room
for
exactly
what
I
don't
know.
AP
It
seems
clear
that
some
people
don't
understand
that
which
makes
the
North
End
the
icon,
that
it
is
because
we're
willing
to
replace
all
that
is
precious
and
unique
with
architecture
and
designs
that
are
not
reflective.
Nor
respectful
of
the
very
thing
that
makes
the
North
End
iconic
its
history,
its
charms
character.
Unfortunately,
North
End
has
been
overwhelmed
with
permits
asking
to
approve
unhistoric,
uncharming
and
uncharacteristic
construction
projects
and
I'm
dumbfounded.
AP
Personally,
every
time
a
project
is
approved
to
build
something
that
is
not
in
keeping
with
North
in
style
and
charm,
those
products
Whittle
away
at
the
Intensive
value
of
the
North
End
and
before
we
know
it
will
no
longer
be
the
iconic
neighborhood
where
everyone
wants
to
live,
and
it
must
be
understood
that
to
live
in
the
North
End
is
to
live
within
the
North
End
and
all
that
that
stands
for
and
that's
history,
charm
and
character.
Thank
you.
Thank.