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A
A
Just
she's
going
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
you
can
expect
for
today
and
then
we'll
get
going.
B
Good
morning,
everybody,
I'm
I'm
glad
to
see
your
faces,
that
I'm
not
looking
at
the
screen
to
look
behind
me
to
see
how
everybody's
doing
so,
it's
nice
to
see
your
faces
even
with
masks.
B
I
think
I
did
this
in
the
first
meeting,
what
I
think
my
role
in
this
process
is,
and
it
is
to
protect
the
process,
so
I'm
here
to
make
sure
we
get
to
the
end
of
this
in
a
way
that
protects
both
the
spirit
of
the
conversations
we've
been
having
and
reflects
the
information
that's
been
presented
and
the
responses
to
it
and
while
all
task
force
are
created
in
the
beginning,
once
you
add
19
people
in
a
controversial
community
conversation,
I
believe
it's
the
expectation
for
us
to
be
adaptive
and
responsive
to
both
the
folks
who
are
willing
to
serve
on
the
task
force
and
the
folks
that
have
a
vested
interest
in
the
outcome
of
this
process.
B
So
a
couple
of
you
have
taken
advantage
of
offering
to
expand
on
what
all
describe
as
the
unease
in
the
room,
and
it
boils
down
to
me
to
a
couple
things.
B
One
is
it
is
clear:
we
don't
have
a
whole
lot
of
time
and
I
wanted
to
remind
folks
that
the
agreement
for
the
task
force
was
for
eight
weeks
and
then
the
city
expanded
that
additional
time,
because
we
couldn't,
we
couldn't
start
it
without
finding
all
of
you
recruiting
all
of
you
finding
folks
who
would
sit
in
this
building
in
covid
in
summer
to
talk
about
a
controversial
issue.
B
To
be
frank,
so
with
that,
I
want
to
make
it
clear
that
I
am
not
in
a
position
to
change
the
timeline,
so
we
have
two
meetings
left.
This
is
one
and
we
have
one
on
monday.
I
also
heard
unease
on:
where
are
we
going?
How
can
we
consider
this
a
success?
B
What's
the
outcome,
and
so
what
I'm
going
to
propose
is
a
slight
change
in
the
plan
to
both
one
relieve
some
of
the
angst
in
the
room.
It's
a
goal.
Keep
that
in
mind
two
to
lay
out
a
path
forward
for
the
next
two
meetings
and
hope
that
it
feels
well
to
everyone.
B
So
I
know
in
the
original
charge
of
the
task
force
it
was
contemplating.
That
voting
would
happen.
I
think,
given
the
time
constraints
we
have
left
and
the
lack
of
information
and
perhaps
expertise
that
folks
have
that
something
about
that
concept
isn't
currently
sitting
right
with
this
task
force.
B
So
my
recommendation
is
that
we
move
to
recommendations.
So,
let's
be
clear,
this
task
force
is
not
empowered
to
make
decisions
on
behalf
of
interfaith
sanctuary
or
the
city
of
boise,
so
the
pressure,
I
think
that
some
of
you
have
felt
that
you
had
to
make
a
decision
is,
is
not
based
in
the
current
circumstance.
This
task
force
can't
make
decisions,
that's
the
work
of
our
planning
and
zoning
commission,
our
city
council,
those
who
are
proposing
the
shelter
and
others.
B
B
But
I
really
truly
don't
want
to
put
anyone
in
a
position
to
vote
on
things
when
they
don't
feel
they
have
enough
time.
They
don't
feel
they
have
enough
information,
it
really
restricts.
I
think
some
of
the
creativity
that
could
be
brought
to
this
complex
and
challenging
issue
and,
worse,
I
think,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
would
ruin
what
I
truly
feel
is
intentional
engagement.
B
So
I
think
the
neighborhoods
in
particular
gave
me
insight
into
if
we
just
had
to
say
yes
or
no,
that's
not
the
whole
picture,
so
we
want
to
capture
the
spirit
of
this
conversation,
the
interests
of
this
group
and
supporting
both
those
experiencing
homelessness
and
issues
with
neighborhoods.
So
those
are
some
of
my
thoughts
behind
the
proposed
document
you
have
received.
A
Okay,
so
I'm
just
going
to
go
through
this
document
so
that
you
have
a
sense
of
what
to
expect
for
today
and
for
monday
and
for
this
adjustment
that
we're
making
so
the
deliverable
is
still
going
to
be
a
final
report
that
was
always
going
to
be
the
deliverable
it's
just.
What
it
contains
is
is
different.
Now
the
audience
for
the
report
is
still
the
mayor
and
city
council.
A
The
purpose
of
that
report
will
be
to
make
recommendations
and
we're
suggesting
that
the
recommendations
be
in
these
three
areas
based
on
feedback
we've
received
from
you
and
what
we've
covered
in
our
time
together.
First
would
be
shelter,
better
practices,
sort
of
a
best
practices.
Here's
what
you
would
like
to
see
for
emergency
shelter.
A
A
Here's
what
here's,
where
things
get
a
little
sticky
for
me
as
a
facilitator,
because
you're
not
voting
on
particular
sites.
It
was
like.
Do
we
even
present
the
results
of
the
land
scan
to
you,
because
that's
sort
of
not
what
we're
doing
anymore,
but
I
felt
like
if
I
were
you,
I
would
want
to
see
that
right.
We've
been
talking
about
it
for
six
weeks
now.
A
A
C
B
I
think
the
way
to
handle
that
is
through
the
landscape
and
if
there
are
recommendations
based
on
the
results
of
that,
we
can
incorporate
that
moving
forward.
But
I
think
you'll
see
the
best
use
of
time
is
likely
not
the
analysis
of
the
results
of
the
land
scan,
but
we
can
hold
that
until
we
get
through
the
data
and
then
revisit
it.
If
you
want.
A
A
Thanks
everyone
all
right
with
that,
I
believe
my
job
now
is
to
turn
things
over
to
our
first
presenter,
which
is
sam
sam
mccaskill.
He
is
with
tok,
that's
a
company
that
has
helped
complete
the
land
scan.
Yes,.
D
E
How's
everyone
doing
good
alrighty,
so
I
was
actually
introduced
to
interfaith
through
the
city
of
boise.
I
was
helping
on
locate
potential
properties
that
had
zoning
that
could
flex
to
be
able
to.
E
So
originally,
I
was
working
with
the
city
of
boise
and
kind
of
grow,
our
housing,
land
trust,
and
so
we
scanned
throughout
the
basically
all
of
city
of
boise's
impact
area,
and
we
were
in
search
of
land
to
be
able
to
do
mixed
income,
low
income,
a
bunch
of
different
housing
projects.
My
goal
was
to
go
out
search
the
projects.
E
E
E
I
had
been
formally
working
with
anna
marie
giles
and
then
leon
letson
and
trying
to
find
that
through
that
project
is
how
I
got
introduced
to
interfaith
and
what
jody
was
searching
for
for
expanding
her
footprint,
to
be
able
to
basically
carry
out
her
mission
and
that's
to
serve
more
people
that
were
in
need
of
services,
so
we
kind
of
started
from
scratch.
E
E
We
went
through
a
ton
of
properties,
the
cabana
inn
red
lion,
the
boise
inn
a
bunch
of
these
properties
that
would
have
an
easy
transition
over
to
both
the
shelter
usage
and
location.
E
They
weren't
finding
it
a
compelling
reason
to
sell
just
because
it
was
interface
sanctuary
at
that
time.
It
wasn't,
it
wasn't
completely
stated
of
who
exactly
the
buyer
was
going
to
be,
but
just
the
fact
for
them
of
selling
those
properties.
So
those
are
a
pretty
heavy,
lift
they're,
they're,
expensive,
they're,
expensive
on
the
remodel
all
those
ends.
They
are
cut
out
to
be
ideal
for
rooms,
but
the
addition
for
kitchens
and
different
stuff,
like
that,
certainly
makes
it
a
little
bit
tougher.
E
So
we
kind
of
went
through
all
those
properties
and
really
nothing
that
checked
the
box,
whether
it
was
a
seller
willing
to
sell
or
a
property
that
fit
the
parameters
from
there.
It
took
us
to
the
on
market
property,
which
was
the
salvation
army
building
we
engaged
with
them.
We
went
through
multiple
tours
went
through
with
contractors
kind
of
exercise
how
the
funding
would
go.
We
engaged
in
negotiations
with
them.
E
It
was,
I
would
say,
lucky
on
the
timing
of
when
those
negotiations
took
place.
It
was
a
point
in
the
market
when
we
saw
this
three-month
wall
due
to
covid
and
then,
as
we
all
are
experiencing,
especially
you
know
on
the
residential
side,
which
has
trickled
over
into
the
commercial
side
once
that
three-month
low
was
over
it
it.
The
market
changed
completely.
E
Buildings
like
that
building
are
incredibly
tough
to
find,
especially
in
an
area.
That's
close
enough
to
downtown
one
of
the
obvious.
You
know,
challenges
of
the
property
was
its
distance
from
downtown
but
being
with
public
transportation,
and
you
know
the
goals
for
state
street
a
couple
similar
projects
that
are
city
owned
in
the
area.
E
I
think
it
checked
the
boxes
for
interfaith
at
that
time
since
then,
and
since
the
task
force
has
been
assembled,
we've
continued
to
look
at
opportunities.
We've
been
continuing
to
search
both
on
and
off
market.
The
on
market
properties
are
getting
even
harder
to
find
when
they
come
out.
It's
gone
within
the
week
if
it's
priced
right
and
that
pricing
has
gone
up
substantially
since
the
salvation
army
building
was
purchased,
so
I
think
to
provide
a
picture
just
of
the
market
where
everything's
going
we're
battling.
E
You
know
with
normal
investors,
normal
developers
are
coming
into
this
area
to
develop
because
boise
is
an
attractive
area
to
be
at
interface.
Sanctuary
is
up
against
those
obstacles,
as
well
plus
they're
on
sometimes
a
different
budget
than
what
some
of
these
investors
and
developers
are,
and
so
their
competitive
advantage.
They
don't
get
one
just
because
they're
a
non-profit-
and
so
that's
that's,
been
something
that
was
difficult
in
the
past
and
going
to
be
difficult
moving
forward
and
finding
something
that's
easy
enough
for
the
occupants
to
get
to.
E
F
I
would
just
clarify
that,
as
sam
stated,
he
was
brought
on
by
the
city
of
boise
two
years
ago
to
help
us
find
parcels
for
the
city's
housing,
land
trust
and
then,
as
we
moved
into
kobit
response
and
we're
trying
to
identify
hotels
that
would
be
willing
to
shelter
our
homeless
population
during
the
pandemic.
We
connected
sam
with
interfaith
as
part
of
that
partnership
work
on
behalf
of
our
path
home.
F
C
Thanks
sam,
I
would
like
to
see
that
list
a
question
I
know
the
financial
end
of
it.
Now
is
a
little
trickier.
However,
the
site
that
interfaith
now
owns
on
state
street
is
also
worth
a
lot
more
than
it
was
when
they
purchased
it,
and
I
wonder
if
and
we
have
some
arp
money
that
can
specifically
be
used
for
this
kind
of
thing,
and
I
wonder
if
we
have
allowed
the
financial
end
of
it
to
limit
the
look
at
opportunities
or,
if
you're,
just
saying.
E
Yeah
and
I
think
to
that,
obviously,
the
financial
situation
is
difficult.
I
think
that
actually
the
the
hardest
part
about
it
is
finding
a
property
or
a
property
owner
willing
to
sell
that
fits
the
parameters,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
that
the
the
search
has
been
very
creative,
both
from
office
buildings,
industrial
buildings,
multi-family
all
the
way
down
to
the
dirt
or
site
redevelopment
of
what
it
could
be,
and
I
think
that
in
you
know
no
doubt
the
property
value
for
state
street
has
gone
up.
E
You
know,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
demand
for
buildings
like
that,
and
I
think
that
the
the
other
parameters
for
what
fits
and
where
it
fits,
are
going
to
be
the
toughest
ones,
because
you
know
the
I'm
anticipating
that
other
neighborhoods
around
the
city
would
probably
react
similar
to
veterans
and
so
from
there
you
look
to
a
place,
that's
kind
of
more
centrally
surrounded
by
commercial
or,
more
specifically,
the
downtown
area,
and
you
know
some
of
the
dirt
prices
that
we're.
E
Seeing
now
I
mean
just
the
west
downtown
parcels
that
went
through
and
got
entitled.
I
mean
those
with
entitlement
plans
for
apartments
tripled,
if
not
quadrupled
in
value.
The
symposium
site
is
a
small,
condensed
site
up
against
the
freeway,
and
that's
listed
now
at
five
million
dollars
for
an
acre.
So
it's
it's
that's
definitely
a
tough
deal.
E
F
So,
with
the
task
force's
permission,
let
me
go
into
what
the
results
of
the
land
scan
were
and
I'll
show
you
how
we
filtered
that,
because
I
think
council
president,
it
will
kind
of
further
explain
the
question
you
just
asked
too.
F
So
let
me
just
note
here
that
and
and
sam-
I
think,
made
this
clear,
but
it's
probably
bears
repeating
that
this
list
was
put
together
given
sam
scan
of
the
market
and
then,
of
course,
the
list
of
suggestions
that
you
all
submitted.
F
F
And
it's
only
allowed
in
four
of
the
city's
24
zoning
codes,
so
that
significantly
decreases
where
a
conditional
use
permit
is
allowable
and
where
an
emergency
shelter
can
be
placed
within
the
city
and
then,
lastly,
we
filtered
by
size,
so
both
30
000
square
foot,
building
which
it
sounds
like
there
was
general
agreement
on
from
the
task
force
and
you'll
see
the
buildings
that
are
for
sale
are,
are
pretty
small
in
the
5
000
square
foot
range,
and
then
we
also
went
between
one
acre
and
three
acre
lots
above
three
acres
is
not
a
responsible
use
of
that
parcel
for
shelter.
F
So
let
me
show
you:
there
were
50,
I
believe,
different
parcels
if
you
will
that
were
either
for
sale
or
on
the
market,
and
so
if
we
go
to
location,
I've
kind
of
flagged
and
read
here
what
the
three
filters
are.
So
if
we
go
to
location
and
only
select
boise.
F
F
The
town
square
parcels
are
already
under
contract,
300
north
orchard
street
or
300
orchard
street
is
also
under
contract.
There's
a
gas
station
there
now,
so
it
would
require
significant
environmental
remediation.
This
is
actually
what
a
parcel
we
looked
at
for
our
land
trust
and
decided
against.
For
that
reason,
so
what
that
leaves
us
with?
Is
this
achd
parcel?
F
That's
right
on
front
street,
and
then
this
one
here,
1250
vanilla,
is
the
same
parcel
as
overland
and
vanilla
here
that
one
is
kind
of
tucked
behind
the
walmart
off
of
overland
right
by
right
by
the
freeway.
We
don't
have
a
price
on
it.
Yet,
as
far
as
I
know,
sam-
and
it
is
a
it's-
almost
a
three
acre
site-
2.9
acres.
E
And
for
background
on
the
listing,
the
way
that
it's
put
together,
that
parcel
is
owned
by
walmart,
so
it's
excess
ground
owned
by
walmart
that
sits
back
there.
It's
handled
by
a
national
broker
through
walmart
outside
of
seattle
and
typically
in
the
market.
When
we
see
contact
agent
for
the
pricing,
it
means
that
the
pricing
is
very
extreme
and
they
don't
want
to
put
that
on.
But
I've
been
calling
him
and
emailing
him
so
I'll
be
trying
to
track
down
the
exact
pricing
expectation
on
that
one.
G
Thank
you,
I
think
when
I
was
asked
to
speak
today,
they
needed
as
a
kind
of
a
zoning
nerd
to
touch
on
some
of
this.
For
you
and
because
council
president
clegg
is
already
on
your
on
your
panel,
I
think
I
was
the
next
next
best
thing
as
it
comes
to
zoning
or
zoning
nerd,
but
more
specific
I
was,
I
was
asked
to
speak
as
to
you
know
what
this,
what
this
zoning
that
you
saw
filtered
this
list
means
to
this
this
project.
G
G
Every
property
in
our
city
has
a
zone,
as
maureen
mentioned,
we
have
24
of
them
with
each
of
those
you
have
a
set
of
dimensional
standards,
setbacks
heights
things
like
that
again
all
specified
in
our
development
code.
It
also
includes
a
list
of
uses
uses
that
are
allowed
prohibited
or
conditional
in
each
zone.
G
Your
your
work
has
obviously
focused
on
a
shelter
home,
and
there
are
only
four
four
of
our
commercial
zones
where
that's
conditionally
allowed.
It's
not
outright
allowed
in
any
zone
so
that
right
off
the
bat
limits
the
location
based
on
existing
zoning
to
about
seven
percent
of
the
city's
zoned
land.
G
So
I
mentioned
it's
conditionally
allowed
in
the
commercial
zones
and
for
those
of
you,
unfamiliar
with
what
a
conditional
use
permit
is
it's
a
use.
That's
has
unique
characteristics
that
can
only
be
allowed
when
about
after
an
evaluation
by
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
G
G
That
process
has
very
specific
and
detailed
procedures
that
are
also
described
in
the
zoning
code
included
in
that
is
a
timing
requirement
for
each
step
that
an
application
must
go
through
that
procedural
stuff
is
very
boring,
but
very
detailed,
but
also
extremely
important,
if
not
the
most
important
thing
to
what
we
do.
It's
important
to
my
my
team
that
presents
these
recommendations,
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and,
ultimately,
city
council.
G
It's
extremely
important
to
understand
that
it's
the
commission
or
on
an
appeal
council
that
makes
the
decisions,
but
from
our
perspective,
as
long
as
we
meet
or
exceed
those
procedural
requirements,
we've
done
our
job.
So
timing,
which
is
important
to
this
project.
I
did
want
to
touch
on
a
typical
conditional
use
permit
from
one
once
we
accept
an
application
to
a
public
hearing
is
about
six
to
seven
weeks,
but
there's
a
couple
things
that
actually
have
to
occur
before
we
even
accept
that
application.
G
That's
a
pre-application
meeting
with
the
planning
staff
and
then
a
neighborhood
meeting,
a
neighborhood
meeting
is
required
to
occur
about
two
weeks
or
at
least
two
weeks
before
we
accept
an
application
and
then
there's
a
noticing
provision
that
has
to
occur
before
that.
Also,
the
pre-application
meeting
with
the
planning
staff
has
to
occur
before
the
noticing
goes
out
for
that
neighborhood
meeting.
So
all
of
that
adds
about
two
months
to
that
application
timeline.
We
talked
about
if
you're
wondering
why
I'm
sharing
that
with
you
today
in
the
most
basic
sense.
G
I
suppose
time
not
here
to
advocate
any
specific
location,
but
just
to
note
we
we
have
a
current
application
and
with
that
application
those
preliminary
steps
have
been
have
been
met.
So
in
the.
If,
if
that
means,
the
decision
to
proceed
with
the
hearing
on
that
existing
location
would
actually
occur
about
a
month
or
two
before
a
hearing
would
occur
if
a
new
location
is
selected.
In
that
scenario,
we
would
have
to
start.
You
would
have
to
start
from
from
scratch,
with
the
pre-application
meeting
series
of
neighborhood
meetings,
and
things
like
that.
G
I
think
that's
what
I
what
wraps
up
what
I
wanted
to
share
in
terms
of
timing
and
the
very
basics
of
a
conditional
use
permit.
I
brought
a
handful
of
documents
that
goes
into
all
the
details
on
this
that
you're
welcome
to
take
when
you're.
When
you
leave
today,
we
can
also
share
those
documents
are
available
in
pdf
on
our
website
and
they
outline
the
process
that
will
apply
regardless
of
what
what
site
is
chosen.
G
Finally,
I
would
just
note
as
this,
regardless
of
where
this,
where
this
falls
as
it
proceeds
I've
met
with
with
a
handful
of
groups
to
kind
of
coach
them
through
the
hearing
process,
my
team's
available
to
do
that,
regardless
of
the
timing
of
the
hearing
or
the
location,
that's
selected.
So
thank
you.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
cody.
I
saw
some
folks
vigorously
scribbling,
so
I
know
you
have
questions,
but
so
I'm
just
going
to
take
us
back
to
that
tightrope
that
we're
walking
a
little
bit
here,
which
is
that
courtney
has
wrecked
strongly
recommended
that
this
group
not
endorse
particular
sites
because
there's
particular
there
are
a
lot
of
technical
details
at
play,
including
around
zoning,
including
market
dynamics
and
given
the
time
and
the
sort
of
political
willingness
expertise
on
this
panel,
it's
become
clear
to
us
that
folks
are
not
interested
in
voting
or
ranking.
A
A
A
A
A
A
I
would
also
say
these
might
not
be
the
right
headings
like
if
you
feel
like
the
heading
is
not
quite
right
or
it
needs
to
be
tweaked.
We
can
absolutely
have
that
discussion
as
well.
We
just
wanted
to
do
some
pre-work
to
get
you
going
in
terms
of
helping
to
load.
What
today
and
monday
could
look
like.
A
Additionally,
I
know
that
some
of
you
have
questions
about
the
land
scan.
I
know
that
you
have
questions
about
planning
and
zoning,
and
so
I've
asked
our
presenters
to
stay
in
the
room
and
as
you're
workshopping.
If
particular
things
come
up
that
you'd
like
answers
on,
we
can
certainly
get
you
those
answers.
A
H
Yeah
this
is
penny
beach,
representing
hospitals,
I
and
health
care
clinics.
I
guess
I
guess
I'm
not
sure
what
we're
doing
anymore,
because
it
seems
like
with
the
land
scan
there's
like
two
options:
there's
a
front
street
property.
I
have
no
nothing
about
and
there's
the
existing
option.
So
I'm
not
really
sure
what
our
task
is
anymore.
H
I
guess
I'm
comfortable
doing
that,
but
I'm
just
not
sure
how
worthwhile
it
is.
I
Daniels
dan
is
good.
I
would
really
just
mostly
echo
dr
beach's
question,
which
is
for
me:
I'm
not
really
sure
what
what
the
point
is
vague
recommendations.
I
B
A
B
Would
would
encourage
everyone
to
recognize
the
growing
unease
associated
with
this
task
force
in
the
time
frame?
So,
given
the
time
constraints,
and
given
the
time
we
have
left,
we
could
analyze
these
properties
based
on
probably
limited
information
and
the
current
marketplace.
Just
because
we
we
haven't
had
these
very
long,
we
could
put
them
up
against
the
feasibility
and
I
think
we
may
find
more
questions
than
answers.
B
I
guess
I'm
a
little
concerned
at
the
implication
that
recommendations
would
be
a
waste
of
time.
I
learned
some
new
things
just
from
the
city,
staffing
level.
I'll
pick
one
example
for
context,
so
you
heard
from
our
police
department
that
we
will
respond
to
emergency
calls
wherever
the
shelter
is,
which
is
true.
We
will,
but
could
we
look
at
a
process,
that's
better
than
reactive.
B
So
a
recommendation
from
this
task
force
that
the
city
is
fully
capable
of
acting
on
is
a
consideration
of
shelter,
support
that
has
a
more
proactive
policing
component
working
through
all
the
details,
as
opposed
to
planning
for
coming
when
a
phone
call
is
made,
and
that's
just
one
of
many
examples.
At
least
my
experience
from
the
city
perspective
is,
there
has
been
more
information
in
this
space
and
more
considerations,
and
so
the
worthwhile
use
of
this
task
force
would
be
to
provide
those
learnings
to
the
decision
makers
in
this
space.
B
But
again
I
can't
make
the
timeline
go
any
further.
I've
heard
you
that
you're
not
comfortable
with
the
information
you
have
in
making
some
of
these
decisions
and
pieces
of
property
are
complex.
I'm
not
a
zoning
nerd.
Nor
do
I
understand
most
of
this.
I
do
know
who
does
and
it's
the
folks
who
actually
have
the
decision-making
space
in
this
area.
Again,
I
want
to
share
with
you.
I
have
a
fantastic
staff,
a
great
facilitator.
B
We
have
arguably
two
and
a
half
hours
to
get
from
where
we
are
to
get
to
somewhere
meaningful.
I
think
tom
said
we
need
to
make
this
count.
What
I
propose
to
you
is
a
process
I
think,
will
make
this
count
while
respecting
everyone
in
the
room
and
the
wishes.
I
heard
I'm
not
a
fan
of
a
prescriptive
process
that
involves
people,
because
people
learn
things
change
things
feel
things,
and
I
think
this
task
force
needs
to
adapt
to
that.
But
again,
those
are
just
some
of
the
thinking
behind
my
recommendations.
B
Alternative
recommendations
are
welcome,
but
we
will
use
most
of
our
time
trying
to
find
alternative
recommendations
for
the
one
meeting
we
have
left.
The
reason
we
gave
you
the
report
we
were
thinking
is
to
show,
at
least
for
me.
I
need
to
see
the
end
to
know
how
to
get
there,
and
so
it
was
helpful
for
me
to
look
at
what
we
might
present
to
decision
makers,
but
I
caution
the
sentiment
that
this
has
been
a
waste
of
time.
B
A
I
also
hope
that
the
three
buckets,
if
you
will
the
three
columns
that
are
in
that
first
handout,
are
broad
enough,
that
each
of
you
might
be
able
to
find
a
space
to
say
something
important
to
you
within
those.
So
I
don't
want
to
pre-load
or
assume,
but
penny
and
dan.
I
could
see
perhaps
that
you
have
some
recommendations
for
leadership
that
you
might
want
to
underscore.
A
So
we've,
if
you
look
at
this
handout,
the
first
one
we
handed
out
we've
made
suggestions
so
again,
the
audience
for
the
report
is
the
mayor
and
the
city
council,
and
so
it
could
be
that
some
of
you
want
to
make
specific
points
or
messages
to
them
about
the
selection
process
or
about
decision
making
moving
forward.
A
You
could
also
direct
some
comments
to
interfaith
sanctuary
in
that
spot.
If
you
wanted
to,
you
could
address
the
city
at
large
right
folks,
who
might
face
having
a
similar
proposal
in
their
neighborhood.
What
would
you
say
to
them
so
we're
trying
to
leave
this
open
now,
just
giving
you
suggestions
to
get
thoughts
moving,
but
today
and
monday
would
really
be
about
starting
to
think
about
what
these
would
look
like,
giving
you
ownership
or
you
having
ownership
over
these
pieces.
A
I
could
see
some
of
you
that
have
expertise
in
the
homelessness
and
housing
space,
maybe
wanting
to
focus
your
efforts
around
shelter,
better
practices-
I
don't
know-
and
maybe
some
of
you
who
are
in
the
community
space-
want
to
focus
in
that
middle
area.
Again,
I'm
not
making
those
assumptions
we're
just
trying
to
create
large
enough
buckets
that
everybody
could
maybe
see
themselves
saying
something
meaningful
within
them.
J
I'm
sarah
I'm
a
local
minister.
I
I
think
the
question
that
I'm
wrestling
with
in
thinking
about
moving
forward
in
this
time
frame
is
what
happens
at
the
end.
So
should
we
be
able
to
put
forth
some
meaningful
recommendations
and
given
what
we've
heard
today
about
where
interfaith
is
in
in
the
current
process
of
zoning
and
pre-application,
for
the
conditional
use
permit
what
what
comes
next?
What
are
potential
outcomes?
Where
do
we
go
from
here.
J
Think
I
mean
the
larger
we
because
I
think
that
has
implications
in
terms
of
what
kind
of
recommendations
or
what
kinds
of
things
we
might
say
to
sort
of
know.
Like
does
interfaith
pick
up
the
process
and
keep
going.
Where
is
the
city
on
that?
And
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
questions
that
continue
to
kind
of
float
around.
In
my
mind,.
A
A
I
think
cody
outlined
the
next
steps
in
the
zoning
process
right
this,
the
conditional
use
permit
process,
and
so
but
this
is
why
we
didn't
want
to
force
you
into
making
a
vote
or
a
specific
recommendation
was
because
there
is
quite
a
bit
of
complexity
in
play.
A
K
A
A
I
think
that's
exactly
right.
I
think
in
my
conversations
with
the
task
force,
chair
and
other
folks
at
the
city.
There
is
absolutely
an
expectation
that
the
leaders
who
are
in
charge
of
making
this
decision
are
going
to
have
to
deal
with
that
discomfort,
but
that
this
group
might
not
be
the
right
group
for
doing
that,
and
that
is
coming
from
a
number
of
people
in
this
room
who
made
it
very
clear
that
they
would
not
be
comfortable
with
voting.
A
D
I
kind
of
had
two
questions.
One
was
does
that
mean
we
can
only
contribute
recommendations
to
one
of
the
three
groups
individually.
D
My
second
question
was
about
the
land
scan.
We
heard
on
tuesday,
with
the
city
council
work
session,
that
the
city
is
considering
rezoning.
Some
persons
for
supportive
housing
is
rezoning
parcels
for
shelter
off
the
table,
especially
city-owned
parcels,
and
where
was
it
already
filtered
by
all
of
the
criteria
that
have
been
identified.
F
Jen
quickly,
I
can
just
jump
in
to
clarify
that
our
intention,
before
performing
the
land
scan
and
seeing
where
it
landed
with
only
a
couple
of
sites
feasible
per
zoning
code
and
then
size,
was
that
we
would
give
you
those
parcels
to
sort
of
discuss
and
then
run
through
the
feasibility
criteria.
So
the
only
filters
that
were
put
on
the
list
are
the
ones
that
I
walked
you
through
today,
the
location,
the
zoning
and
the
size.
A
A
What
I'm
going
to
suggest
is
that
if
you
are
interested
in
working
on
the
shelter,
better
practices
piece
of
the
report
that
you
come
up
to
this
side
of
the
table
and
group
together
to
brainstorm
and
work
on
that,
if
you're
interested
in
the
community
criteria-
we'll
put
you
in
the
back
over
here
and
then,
if
you
want
to
work
on
the
sort
of
messages
for
decision
makers,
leadership
will
have
you
come
up
to
this
part
of
the
room,
and
I
realize
this
is
omitting
some
people
who
are
online
so
we'll
brainstorm
later,
how
best
to
include
them.
A
A
If
I
can
have
your
attention
just
for
one
minute,
I
just
need
one
representative
from
each
group
to
let
me
know
who
who
the
point
of
contact
for
your
group
is
hillary.
If
I
could
just
get
one
representative
from
each
group
to
let
me
know
who
your
point
of
contact
is,
because
we
have
some
people
I'll
just
come
around.