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From YouTube: 11-7-22 Cannabis Licensing Advisory Board Meeting
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B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
yeah,
um.
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
hold
on..
Let
me
get
you
the
right
window
up
here.
Welcome
to
the
november
version
of
the
city
of
boulder's,
cannabis,
licensing
and
advisory
board.
uh,.
We
shall
start
with
a
virtual
meeting
and
our
rules
of
decorum.
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A
A
A
A
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:,
we
do
have
under
agenda.
item
number
two
public
comment
for
the
board.
uh,
when
it
reaches
that
time,
and
you
are
a
member
of
the
public,
you're-
welcome
to
raise
your
hand
when
called
upon
to
begin
the
process,,
and
you
will
have
a
three
minute
timer
to
make
your
public
comment.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
also.
of
note
for
the
for
the
cloud
meeting
for
today,
and
from
here
on,
out,
we've
received
notification
of
a
procedure
change
for
how
this
meeting
is
recorded..
But
currently
we
have
with
every
meeting
we
record
the
audio,
and
the
audio
is
put
into
our
laser
fee.
A
website
at
the
conclusion
of
the
meeting.
um,,
usually
within
the
next
day.
um!,
and
that
will
continue
to
stay
a
procedure.
um,.
But
they
are
adding
that
the
video
recording
of
this
meeting,
beginning.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
with
this
one
will
also
be
uploaded
to
the
city's
youtube
account..
So
just
as
an
fyi,
that's
um.,
this
meeting
will
be
posted
to
the
city
z
page
within
the
next
upcoming
days.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
um,
also
note
for
the
board
that
kathy
haddock
is
currently
traveling,
and
she
will
be
joining
this
meeting
at
a
later
time.
Today.
A
C
A
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
member
thompson.
A
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
of
seven
voting
members
and
one
ex
official
member.
A
B
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
um!.
If
there
are
members
of
the
general
public
who
wish
to
make
a
public
comment.
um,
please,
in
your
reactions.,
a
bar
at
the
bottom
of
your
screen.,
please
raise
your
hand,
and
we
will
add
your.
A
B
B
B
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
okay,.
Thank
you
very
much..
Moving
on
to
agenda.
item
number
three,
the
bolter
marijuana
hospitality
city
provisions
continue
discussion.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
alright,,
so
we
have
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
plenty
of
time
to
be
working,
on.
this..
This
is
in
your.
G
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
clab,
tom
kunstman,
(he/him):
accurately
described
as
the.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
and
I
guess
I'll
use
the
concentrates
on.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
the
motion
was
recommend
that
marijuana
concentrate.
shelby,
one
of
the
permitted
types
of
products.
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
opposition
to
that
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
and
the
opposed
is
supported.
that
am,
I
correct
in
my
reading?.
H
H
G
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
the
other
thing
I
just
wanted
to
raise
is
the
process
thing
was
um,
and
our
plan
to
median
or
kristen..
If
you
wanted
to
introduce
the
shared
drive
at
this
point,
or
you
plan
to
use
it
some
other
point.
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
sure
I
can
cob,
kristen
changaris:
provide
just
a
quick
overview.
um..
There
were
instructions
in
the
meeting,
package.,
just
kind
of
tips
and
tricks
on
how
to
edit
the
shared
document.
um,.
Just
a
few
things
to
keep
in
mind.
That.
um.
C
C
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
um.
and
then
also
just
another
note
that
there's
three
ways
that
you
can
like
three
modes
that
you
can
choose
from
when
you're
editing
the
document.
um,,
there's
an
editing
mode
that
you
can
use
to
actually
make
changes.
C
Cob,
kristen,
changaris:
and
multiple
members
can
all
log
in
and
make
changes
at
the
same
time,,
which
is
great.
um!.
There's
a
reviewing
mode,.
If
you
just
want
to
add
comments
and
suggest
changes
with
the
actually,
without
actually
making
the
change
in
the
document.
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
and
then,
lastly,
there's
a
viewing
mode
where
you
can
just
view
the
document
without
making
any
changes
or
suggestions,
and
members
of
the
public
will
have
access
to
the
viewing
mode.
um,.
They
will
not
be
able
to
edit,,
but
all
of
the
cloud
members
and
city
staff
have
the
ability
to
actually
edit
the
document.
C
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
so
again,,
I
just
want
to
reiterate
something
that
kristen
said
that
we
don't
want
it..
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
number
reviewing
mode
so
that
all
the
changes
are
being
tracked.,
we're
not
just
like
making
the
changes
directly,
so
that
we
can
perhaps
decide
as
a
board
or
in
some
other
capacity.
we're
not
to
approve
or
reject
changes.
That
might
be
too
fine.
brand
of
control.
um!.
G
B
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
was
that
in
this
this
is
new
for
us..
So
a
suggestion,
or
something
that
I
would
maybe
want
us
to
consider,
is
if
we
did
have
a
chance
to
read
this,.
We
could
all
be
this
now.
This
also
might
be
a
moment
where
we
work
as
a
board
like
in
a
document,
rather
than
necessarily
talking
to
each
other,
and
that's
a
good
something..
I
want
to.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
think
through
and
work
through
with
you
all
as
well
as
like..
How
do
we
want
best?
uses
time??
Is
it
to
sort
of
interact
with
the
document,
or
is
it
to
sort
of
interact
with
each
other
in
some
kind
of
sequential
way,.
E
E
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
different
clab,,
alana,
malone:
versions
of
this
and
and
finalization?
is
it
by
march?
and
then.
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
define
all
of
that
without
emotion.,
but
I
still
am
curious
what
the.
B
H
H
H
H
Clab,
alana
malone:,
um!
and
then,
with
respect
to
the
timeline,,
I'm
not
sure
I
have
that
question
as
well.
okay,
thanks
for
the
word,
count.,
I
I
forgot
that.,
so
two
hundred
and
fifty
words
or
less,,
and
then
it
sounds
like
you,
don't
want
substantive,
or
you
would
recommend,
not
substantive
contributions
to
the
position
we
didn't.
take,
but
potentially,
like
fact,
based
comments.
or,.
E
E
D
D
D
B
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
any
kind
of
judicial
body
that
you
sort
of
like
have
to
sort
of
the
pros
and
the
cons
of
the
both
cases..
Both
sides
can
make
their
case,
and
then,
for
us,
is
what
you're
saying
like..
This
is
more
for
our
use.
Here.
together.
we're
not
planning
to
submit
this,
or
we
are.
G
D
D
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy,
green:,
um!
and
yet
together
to
board
them.,
it
seems
like.
Maybe
we
need
to
first
agree
that
we're
going
to
use
this
format,-
and
you
know
enough
of
us-
agree
that
that's
the
way
to
go,
and
maybe
we
do
already,
and
that'll
be
super
easy..
But
I
wasn't
sure
if
we
needed
to
do
that,
or
wanted
to
do
that.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
I'm
not
aware
that
I
was
making
any
sort
of
foral
motion
on
this..
I
think
this
was
an
experimental
approach
that
was
brought
forward
by
robin
that
I
was
supportive
of
um.,
and
so
I
think
it
was
something
that
we
sort
of
want
to
get
some
ideas
down
and
get
you
all
to
react
to..
But
if
this
is
not
a
productive.
G
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
yeah,.
I
was
wondering
the
same
thing
whether
or
not
if
we
did
have
format,
recommendations
for
this
or
different
format,
ideas
that
we
could
just
add
it
in
a
comment,
and
like
put
like
a
little
outline
of
what
maybe
another
another
option,
is,
or
um,,
because
I
I
mean
I
also
have
some
ideas
of
of
what.
I
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
and
maybe
separate
out
the
things
that
didn't
pass
into
separate
places..
You
could
have
a
recommendation
section,
another
section,
and
then
here's
the
recommendation.,
here's
the
comment
for
the
supporting
of
that
recommendation.
and
then
here's
the
other.
and
then
here's
how
it
differs
from
state
law,
or
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
different
like
variability
to
like
how
we
could
do
this..
But
I
just
my
question
was,.
How
do
you
want
those
those
thoughts
or
recommendations
on
potential
changes
to
the
format.
D
J
J
Cob,
kathy
haddock:,
the
you
did
decide
to
to
say
he
did
it
didn't
want
the
format
that
I
had
done,,
which
was
just
the
recommendations,,
and
so
there
was
a
discussion..
I
don't
have
the
minutes
in
front
of
me
to
know
which
part
was
voted
on,,
but
that
you
did
want
to
have
the
reasons
why
the
people
voted,
and
all
and
the
people,.
J
J
Cob,
kathy
haddock:
right
now.
I
know
there
is
a
motion
to
have
the
public
hearing,
and
it's
in
february,,
which
means
you
have
to
agree
on
the
language
that
you
want
the
public
hearing
on
by
january.
and
if
you
can't
even
figure
out
the
form
at
this
that
you
want
at
this
meeting.,
that's
going
to
be
a
hard
deadline
to
me.
J
Cob,
kathy
haddock:,
so
maybe
talk
about
the
format..
You
do
want
and
decide
that
if
you
want
more
emotions
on
that,.
E
J
J
J
E
Clab,
alana
malone:.
I
guess
I
was
referring
to
the
memo
that
you
were
beginning
to
draft
on
september
seventh.,
but
it's
dated
september
seventh.
E
J
K
J
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I
I
keep
using
the
word
emotional,,
but
that's
what
keeps
popping
into
my
mind
document
as
opposed
to
like
a
very,,
a
more
pragmatic
one,,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
accept..
There's
emotions
on
every
side
of
this,
and,,
like
all
of
us,,
have
our
own
emotions
coming
from
our
backgrounds..
You
know
that
are
involved.
Here.
um!.
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
unknown
as
far
as
like
clab,
stacy
green:,
not
really
research..
I
think
we
need
to
like
say
that
right
like,
rather
than
making
statements.
and
I
know,
robin,,
you
had
open
the
discussion
just
a
few
minutes
ago
to
this
idea:
of,
like,,
you
know.,
let's
be
clear
on
all
that
stuff,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
because.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
settled
science.,
there's
tons
of
debate,
and
we
don't
know.,
but
here's
our
concerns
from
all
these
stakeholders.
um!.
So
I
think
you
know,
having
that
more
clear,
like
references,,
even
if
we
can.,
if
we're
going
to
say,
yeah,,
there's
science
behind
it,
to
maybe
reference
that,
because
I
think.
D
H
Clab,
robin
noble:
and
use
that
function
that
kristen
set
up
like..
So
there's
three
functions.
there's
an
edit
function,
there's
a
comment
function,
and
there's
just
a
view.
Function.
and
through
the
comment
function.,
you
could
go
into
a
particular
phrase
that
you
found
to
be
just
emotional,
and
you
could
suggest
something:
else.
H
H
H
Clab,,
robin
noble:
is
like
a
lot
of
worry
and
concern,,
and
I
I
get
that
sometimes..
You
just
have
to
get
off
the
blank
page.
and
again,.
If
people
can
take
the
time
between
now
and
the
next
coordinating
dig
in
and
do
some
of
the
work
through
these
mechanics
that
kristin
set
up..
I
think
we
could
move
this
issue
along.
D
D
D
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
when
people
make
comments,
those
comments
are
labeled,
or
you
know,.
If
somebody
does
edits
even.
B
G
G
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
so
so
then,
to
go
back
to
that
a
lot
of
question
about
what
the
people
could
edit,
or
what
robin
kind
of
just
answered
it..
But
other
people
can
make
comments
about.
B
B
B
L
L
L
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:
and
I
think,
as
long
as
each
side
feels
comfortable,
that
their
position
has
been
articulated
within
the
two
hundred
and
fifty
word
limit,
or
if
we
decide
to
expand
that
that
we
shouldn't
be
going
much
further
than
that.
otherwise,,
I
think
we're
creating
a
document
that's
way
too
complicated.
E
E
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
um,,
it's
gonna,
take
me
hours
to
work
through
a
document
like
this,
and
then
somebody
is
going
to
change
everything
I
do,
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
go
back
and
spend
more
hours,
again.
and
then
it's
gonna
have
to
happen
again
until
we
ever,,
maybe
get
somewhere
that
everybody
can
agree.
To.
um.
E
Clab,
alana
malone:,
so
I
think
this
because
it's
demanding
an
incredible
amount
of
time
at
the
worst
time
of
year
possible
for
families
and
business
owners,
and
probably
everybody
else
in
the
world..
I
think
we
need
a
vote
and
emotion
to
prevail
in
order
to
actually
demand
that
all
of
us
set
aside
the
amount
of
time
that's
going
to
be
required.
E
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
as
to
those
who
want
to
contribute,,
we
haven't
come
here
every
first
monday
of
the
month
for
years,,
because
we
don't
want
to
contribute
um..
This
is
above
and
beyond.
so
because
of
all
that,.
I
think
this
needs
to
be
put
in
a
motion
by
the
people
who
want
to
support
it,.
It
needs
to
prevail.
E
E
E
E
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
matter
here,
and
we're
gonna
all
go
from
get
it.
we'll
leave
our
comments,
and
we'll
have
a
discussion
about
the
document.
so,
rather
than
talking
about
it,
and
then
sort
of
going
into
over
time
and
doing
the
phone
work
outside
of
class.
actually
use
this
meeting
to
like
work
on
the
document
rather
than
just
talking
about
the
document
would
be
my
suggestion.
L
L
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
but
if
the
majority
has
a
position
that
is
articulated
in
a
way
that
they
are
comfortable
with.,
I
don't
think
that
the
opposition
to
that
should
have
the
right
or
the
authority
to
go
in
and
change
what
the
the
majority's
position
is,
and
vice
versa.
um..
I
agree
that
what,
in
the
earlier
discussion,,
if
there's
something
that
is
absolutely,
factually
incorrect.,.
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
that
needs
to
be
corrected.,
but
we
are
um,
clab,
michael
christy:.
I
think,
going
down
or
going
up
a
very
slippery
slope
if
we
and
we
are
not
being
realistic..
If
we
think
that
we
are
going
to
at
the
end
of
the
day,
compile
a
document
where
we
are
allowing
the
majority
to
edit
the
minority
position,
and
allow
in
the
minority
to
edit
the
majority
position.
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:.
I
don't
want
my
name
on
the
document,,
not
because
I
don't
necessarily
agree
with
it..
I
don't
think
my
opinion
matters
as
much
of
this
moment
as
not
wanting
my
name
professionally
appended
to
a
document
where
there
are
statements
that
I
don't
agree
with.
so
for
me.
it
may.,
I'm
not
sure
I
can
be
comfortable.
D
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I
mean,
that's
an
immense
ask
of
people
right
now,
like
I,
I
honestly
I
don't
have
the
time
to
go
through
this
with
it
like
fine,
tooth,
comb
and
catch
things,
that
in
like
five
years.,
someone's
going
to
tell
me,
I
was
once
quoted
in
a
document
saying
the
following:.
I
I
can't
take
that
on
um,,
so
I
personally
feel
like.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
I'd
either
have
my
name
left
off
of
it,
or
like.
If
we
have
to
go
forward
with
this
type
of
document,
or
let's
just
make
this
more
simple.,
we
have
spent
endless
hours
debating
these
things.,
we
have
votes,,
we
have
recommendations.,
we
could
list
those
really,
clearly
and
simply
in
a
summary
statement
lacking
all
of
this
background.
now,.
If
other
members
of
the
board
wish
to
submit
documents
explaining
their
opposition
with
their
names
appended
to
it,
fine.
H
H
H
H
Clab,,
robin
noble:
is.
clab,,
robin
noble:.
This
format
is
used
by
high
courts
throughout
our
country,
and
I
think
where
we
made
a
little
mistake,
and,
brian
speak
up
if
you
disagree.,
but
instead
of
using
the
words,
support
and
oppose,,
we
probably
should
have
for
the
minority
and
for
the
majority.
H
H
Clab,
robin
noble:,
what
they
were
thinking,
and
I
think
stacy,.
If
we
went
through,
for
instance,
on
that
very
first
sentence,
where
we
say
risks
of
licensing
blah
blah
blah,,
the
minority
believes
risks
of
licensing
blah
blah
blah.
That
can
be
very
helpful
throughout
the
document.
again,.
We
have
a
two
hundred
and
fifty
word
limit.
H
H
H
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
okay,
we're
not
a
court..
I
think
that's
really
important..
We
are
an
advisory
board,.
I
I
mean,
we're
not
meant
to
function
as
a
court
when
the
court
rates
those
opinions,.
The
justices
on
each
side
are
very
clearly
labeled
as
such.
right..
In
this
case,
it's
not
so
clear
cut..
I
have
opinions
on
both
sides
of.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
way
that
it
would
be
written
by
some
of
the
people
who
disagree
would
be
different
than
others,
and
so
back
to
a
lot
of
it's
an
immense
amount
of
time
that
would
be
required
to
do
this,.
I
mean,.
Maybe
we
should
go
forward,
like
brian
just
said,
and
see
like.,
let's
try
it
out.,
but
I.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
at
this
point
would
say,
it's
unlikely
in
this
type
of
format
that
I'd
be
able
to
be
comfortable,,
adding
my
name
to
it
like
that..
I
had
part
in
this
document,.
I
not
that
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
hard
work's
gone
in,
and
that
it's
a
really
important
type
of
document
and
useful..
It's
more,.
D
L
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:
um,,
and
to
me
that
that
is
of
the
utmost
importance
in
terms
of
at
least
having
my
name
tied
to
this
document,,
and
I
believe,
if
I'm
hearing
you
correctly,.
That's
what
you're
saying
that
there
are
certain
things
that
the
way
this
is
written,
or
the
positions
that
are
taken.
you're,
not
comfortable,
signing
off
on,.
And
I
think,.
If
we
can
at
least
identify
who
sadden
the
majority
who
sat
in
the
minority,
and
that
at
least
gives
that
person.
Some
level
of
comfort
that
hey?.
If
you're
in
the
majority.
L
Clab,
michael
christy:
um,,
at
least
that
that's
how
I'm
looking
at
it,
and-
and
I
do
feel
like
if
you
look
at
the
precedence
that's
been
set
like
this-
is
our
first
stab
at
doing
something
like
this,
and
I
certainly
feel
like
looking
at
the
way
the
high
court
deals
with
their
decisions.
having
a
majority
having
a
dissenting
opinion.
um,
we're
using
that
as
a
benchmark..
If
that
works
for
us
great,,
if
it
doesn't.
okay,,
then
we
can
come
up
with
something
different.,
but
to
me
again,
um,
I.
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:
um!,
I
thought
that
we
had
added
the
names,,
and
maybe
that
was
just
something
that
I
was
working
on:
offline.
um,,
but
but
at
least
because
I
agree
with
you.,
I
I
felt
like
well
wait
a
second..
This
document
doesn't
identify
who
voted
for
this
way
on
this
particular
issue,,
and
I
will
tell
you.
I
mean.
there's.
I
think
we
all
can
recognize.
I'm.,
probably
from
the.
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
much
more
conservative
side
of
some
of
the
boats,
we've
taken,
and-
and
I
do
not
want
my
name
associated
with
voting
in
favor
of
some
of
these
positions
that
we're
passing,
and
it
is
it's?.
It
is
very
important
to
me
that
my
name
is
identified
with
the
positions
that
I've
taken.
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
there's
nothing
clab,
stacy
green:
blatant
clab,,
stacy
green:
right?,
because
we
are
an
advisory.
we're,
not
a
court
right
that
is
written
on
the
other
side.
and
so
then,
once
again,,
I
think
we
just
have
to
circle
back
to
the
question
of
how
much
time
is
that
really
going
to
take?
and
if
that's
to
ask,,
is
it
an
appropriate
ask?
or
is
that
not
the
intentions
of
this
for
right?
Like
I
don't
know,
that's
not
something.
I
have
an
answer
to..
So
maybe
someone
else
does,.
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
that
that
is,,
you
know,
at
least,
for
as
a
whole
for
our
board,,
something
that
we
should
all
feel
positive
about.
That..
The
document
that
we
are
submitting.
We
can
all
sign
off
on.
B
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
I'm
kind
of
reviewing
a
lot
of
these
documents.
obviously.,
I'm
a
relative
new
beyond
this
court
or
on
this
board,
and
looking
back
over
a
lot
of
these
recommendations..
I
apologize
this
this
for,
for
whatever
reason,
was
shared
with
an
inappropriate
email
for
me,,
and
I
just
got
the
chance
to
review
this
right
now..
So
I'm
actually
looking
at
it
for
the
first
time.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
so
I've
kept
my
mouth
shut
here
for
a
minute.,
clab,
evan,
anderson:
um!.
One
definitely
need
to
have
our
names
attached
to
this
to.
I
think
that
this
is
an
effort
that
can
be
edited
to
something
that
I
think
most
of
us
could
probably
stand
behind,,
but
as
it
stands,
right,
now,
it's.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
If
we
want
to
make
declarative
statements,,
we
should
probably
making
references
to
scientific
information.
um,.
I
feel
compelled
to
identify
quite
a
few
things
in
here
that
are
not
defended
by
settled
science,,
to
say
the
least,
in
kind
of
looking
back
at
everything.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
obviously,.
Some
people
are
on
this
board
for
certain
reasons..
Some
people
are
on
this
board,
because
they
are
in
favor
of
this
industry,
and
some
people
are
on
this
board
because
they
are
not
to
not
have
a
representative
sample
of
those
individuals,
and
to
make
recommendations
to
council,
as
though
it
were
a
voice
of
the
board,
is.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
very
concerning
to
me,
to
say
the
least,
lot
of
this
stuff.
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
I
have
a
lot
of
things
I
need
to
say
about
it,,
and
I
think
this
goes
to
further.
alana's
point
that
this
is
a
time..
This
is
a
time
commitment.
if
we're
going
to
make
the
time.
commitment,
we're
asking
a
lot
of
this
board,,
but
I
can't
certainly
stand
behind
this
formatting
with
these
kind
of
references
without
substantiated.
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
prohibitionist
clab,,
evan,
anderson:,
document,,
clab,,
evan
anderson:,
and
it
doesn't
sit
well
with
me.
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
we
could
be
spending
this
time
discussing
the.
What
the
reality
is
is
that.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
if,
if
we
do
what
stacy
suggests,
and
just
give
a
you
know,
like
a
one.
page,
is
kind
of
summary
um,
and
present
that
to
city
council.-
it's
going
to
be
backed
up
by,
if
you
know.!
If
they
want
to
look
at
it.,
they
can
look
at
all
the
minutes,
that
for
all
the
meetings,
and
have
all
the
information,,
including.
B
B
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
the
method
created
to
try
to
do
this
publicly.
um!,
so.
B
L
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
you
know,
admittedly.
the
direction
that
we're
headed
is
not
the
direction
that
I
would
have
chosen.,
but
I
respect
the
vote,
the
vote
of
the
board.
um!
and
I
think
that
you
know
again,.
It's
it's
important
like
to
know
to
your
point..
We
we
have
a
duty
to
the
community
to
be
doing
the
job
that
we
were
tasked
with,,
and
I
believe
that
we
are
doing
that.
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
I
I
feel
like
we're
going
to
continue
to
go
round
and
round
and
round
on
this
debate
as
to
format
and
and
evan
to
your
point.
I'm..
You
know,
I
would
appreciate
it
if
you
could
provide
the
board
with
the
votes
that
you
feel
you
didn't
have,
or
the
industry
did
not
have
adequate
representation.
um,,
I'm
not
aware
of
that.
um,.
I'm
not
saying
that.
That's
not
the
case.,
but
I
I
would
be
curious
to
see
what
which
of
those
votes
in
which
you
feel
that
the
industry
was
not
represented,.
L
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
oh,
you're
mute,,
brian,,
clab,,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
whatever
you
just
sent.
alright,
thanks.
thank
you.
alright,.
So
I
do
want
to
sort
of
move
this
issue
along..
So
I
do
want
to
propose
a
motion
and
all
entertain
friendly
amendments,,
but
it
would
be
something
to
the
effect
of
um.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
so
other.,
I
think
it
was.,
evan
and
others
have
sort
of
mentioned
that,.
You
know
they
like
a
previous
memo,
uh,
or
agenda,,
so
like,
outlined,,
like
just
all
the
motions,
and
all
of
a
sudden,
the
people
who
voted
for
it.
Against,.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
and
so
that
maybe
it's
the
only
thing
we
can
report
to
city.
Council.-
so
if
you
want
to
have
this
sort
of
deliberative
style,
pros
and
cons
for
the
majority
against
the
majority
of
you,,
don't
know
for
my
function.
I'm
going
to
vote
no
one,
my
emotion
as
well.
uh,,
but
I
will
entertain
friendly
amendments.
B
H
G
G
E
E
G
B
E
E
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
but
this
goes
on
when
I'm,,
seeing
in
front
of
me,
goes
on
to
show
the
support,
and.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
okay,
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
dated
september
seventh,,
two
thousand
and
twenty-two.
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
an
opposition,
would
be
to
explore
some
other
kind
of
model.,
so
we're
really
just..
Do
we
want
to
proceed
with
the
city
staff,
like
the
staff,,
like
memo
with
the
the
motions
and
the
years
and
days?,
or
do
we
want
to
engage
with
another
kind
of
process?,
so
yes,
keep
the
city
staff
memo.
G
B
B
B
G
D
K
B
L
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
um!
clab,,
michael
christy:,
I
I
felt
like
again.,
I
feel
like
we're.
We've
had
this
conversation
before..
I
feel
like
we're
now
debating
a
conversation
that
we've
already
at
least
preliminary,,
decided
to
take
a
stab
at,
and
that
is,
lay
out
the
issue.
lay
out
in
context
why
the
majority
voted
this
way.
why,.
The
minority
voted
this
way..
If
we
just
provide
the
content
that
is
listed
on
pages
twenty-four
and
twenty-five
it's,
not
giving
context
to.
Council.-
so
in
essence,
we're
just
saying
to
council,.
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
here,,
here's,
the
issue.,
here's,
the
vote.,
here's
how
each
member
voted,
and
here
are
some
bullet
points
to
each.
to
each
of
these
issues.,
I
think,
what's
important
is
that
we
lay
out
for
council.-
here's
what
the
majority
was
thinking,
and
here's
why
they
voted
that
way.
L
L
B
B
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
um,,
so
I
I
was
also
like,.
There's
another
option..
I
mean,.
I
know
that
you
um.
we're
talking
about
the
one.
That's
in
the
packet.
currently.,
the
one
that
I
think
evan
was
talking
about
is
the
one
from
july.
the
july
meeting
packet.
That
includes,,
like
the
date,,
includes
motion,,
not
the
full
motion
text
right,,
but
it
also
includes
what
the
vote
was,
and
who
voted
each
way,
and
who
upstate
like
um,.
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
an
in
between
in
terms
of
you,
know,
clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
the
k,
the
kathy
document?
um,.
That's
currently
there
plus
an
old
memo
that
they
had.
If
we
were
looking
for,,
you
know,
format
that
did
include
um,
so
that
people
could
say,.
You
know
what
they
voted,
for,,
what
they
didn't,,
so
that
there
was
a
little
bit
more
ownership
and
understanding.
Of..
Of
of
that,
I
know,
that's
been
something
that
we've
talked
about.
so.
I
C
E
E
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
um.,
so
I
would,
if
I
were
you
guys
wanting
this
process.,
what
I
would
do.
um,,
which
I
think
would
be
more
efficient
and
effective,
would
be
to
craft
the
motion
with
the
guardrail.
this
process
that
you
want,
and
that
you
think
would.
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
be
best
based
on
the
feedback
and
conversations
that
we've
had
on
this
topic,,
because.
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him)::
if
we
don't
want
to
proceed
with
the
kappy
memo
with
the
amendments,,
then
we
should
do
something
else,,
which
I
think
a
lot
of
them
is
clarified,
and-
and
I
do
want
to
clarify
that.
no,
on
this
motion-
does
not
mean
that
we're
committing
to
doing
the
court
style.
Document..
That's
another
motion
to
be
made..
I
guess
we
you
visited..
Perhaps
we
made
that
in
the
past,,
but.
G
H
Clab,
robin
noble:
um,,
and
we
all
hold
our
positions
quite
strongly,,
and
I
would
suggest
to
you
that
it
it's
undermining
to
our
board,
to
provide.
H
Clab,,
robin
noble:,
incomplete
clab,,
robin
noble:
representation
of
what
our
our
conversations
and
debates
have
been..
But
it's
actually
quite
strong
for
this
board
to
come
forward
with
two
hundred
and
fifty
words
on
each
particular
issue
that
we
debated
and
dug
into,
and
had
guest
speakers
come
and
speak
with.
H
H
H
H
H
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
agreeing
to
that.
and
what
format
to
use
first.
As
far
as
michael
and
robin
your
points.
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
you
know,
there's,
no,
you
know
place
that
a
council
member
could
go
and
look
for.
More.
information
is
factually
incorrect.
in
fact,,
making
a
court
style
document,
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,,
especially
because
we
do
want
to
limit
the
words..
Two
hundred
words
can
be
two
hundred
rhetorical
words
full
of
opinion..
Two
hundred
words
can
be
succinct
and
full
of
science.,
but
to
come
to
a
document
that
we
all
agree
on
in
that
way
is
an
immense
tab.
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
or
the
meeting
minutes,
I
mean
they
can
go
and
gather
information..
We
sat
per
meeting
and
debated
every
one
of
these
issues
in
a
way
that
I
can't
imagine
two
hundred
words
for
any
one
of
us
who
has
more
strong
opinions
about
this
is
going
to
feel
good.,
so
it
it's.
not
that
it's
doing
a
disservice,.
I
think
just
the
opposite.
Trying
to,
you
know,
distill
this
into
two
hundred
words,,
that
all
of
us
that
are.
D
D
D
H
Clab,
robin
noble:,
providing
counsel
with
a
succinct
summary
of
a
minority
viewpoint.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I'm
saying
what
I
said,
that
they
have
access
to
that
information
and
the
best
way..
If
a
person
wants
to
use
an
advisory
board
in
an
objective
way,,
as
far
as
I
can,
imagine,
would
be
to
go
access.
The
actual
information,
themselves,
read:
studies,,
listen
to
the
expert
who
spoke,
listen
to
our
debate
if
they
wish.,
but
most
of
these
issues
really
don't,
have
a
factual,.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
you
know,
final
answer,
or
settled
science,,
or
something
like
that
that
can
be
stated.
and
so
it.,
it's
just
too
convoluted,.
As
far
as
I'm.
concerned,
to
distill
into
two
hundred
words,
that's
going
to
represent
all
those
stakeholder
opinions
that
do
go
into
it,,
including
our
own.,
and
so
I
I
just.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
as
much
as
it
would
be
nice
to
create
that
document..
It
would
require
an
immense
amount
of
effort
that
I
can't
imagine,
is
appropriate
to
ask
of
any
member
of
this
board,,
and
I
would
worry
that
even
at
the
end
of
that
process,
it
still
would
be
the
same,
you
know.
set
of
concerns.
We're
sitting
here
talking
about
right,
now,,.
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
the
big
question
is,.
Why
clab,
michael
christy:?
Why
did
you
both
this
way,
and
if
we
are
simply
going
to
say
to
council,
here's,
the
issue.,
here's,
how
the
majority
voted.
here's,
how
the
minority
voted.!
If
I
were
a
council
member,,
I
would
want
to
know
what.
why,.
What
was
it
that
caused
you
to
be
persuaded
to
vote
this
way
or
that
way,
and
we
are
not
providing
that?
Will
the
why
for
council,?
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:
to
make
those
recommendations
to
them
so
that
they
can
make
an
informed
decision.,
so
they
don't
have
to
go
back
and
do
that
deep
dive..
I
I
agree
with
you,
stacy,
that
what
I
think
would
be
helpful
is,.
I
mean,
I
personally
like
this
memo-style
or
court
document,,
whoever
you
want
to
refer
to
it,
where
we
lay
out,,
here's
the
why,
in
a
very
short
paragraph,,
two
hundred
and
fifty
words.
why,.
The
majority
voted
this
way
about
why
the
minority
voted
this
way,
and
then
provide
a
link..
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
and
go
and
spend,
you
know,
an
hour
or
three
hours,,
whatever
you
want
to
do,
and
we
provide
those
links
to
council
if
they're
so
inclined..
But
I
would
be
really
really
surprised
if
they're
going
to
do
it,
and
frankly,,
you
know
what.
yes,.
I
would
expect
the
majority
to
do
the
work.
E
E
E
E
E
D
E
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
I
think
a
two
hundred
and
fifty
word
paragraph
is
not
asking
a
lot
to
support
a
position.
one.
Is
it
just
one,
two
hundred
and
fifty
word
paragraph,,
and
it's
not
that
simple,
michael,
like
I
could
write
a
two
hundred
and
fifty
word
paragraph
about
my
opinion,,
but
that's
irrelevant
that
then
it
stacy,
get
together
with
the
people
in
the
majority
who
voted
in
aligned
with
you
and
figure
it
out.
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:
well,,
let
me
ask
you
that
we
can't
do
that.
we're
not
allowed
to
get
together
and
meet
with
people,
you
know.
and
so
we're
insinuating..
We
aren't
willing
to
do
the
work..
This
is
just
such
a
nasty,
and
I'm
not
insinuating
you're,
I'm
going
to
be
the
board
chair
for
a
moment
down
a
little
bit.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
I've
been
one
second
before
I
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):.
I
I
see
your
hand
up..
There
was
a
a
vote
proposal.
B
B
B
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
previously
clab,
evan
anderson:,
distributed
structure
of
motion.,
yes,
versus
nays,
and
then
references
to
minutes.
um!.
I
would..
I
would
not
support
that
motion..
I
believe
that
is
a
cop
out..
I
think
we
need.
we
need
more
than
that.,
but
I
think
we
also
need
something
different
than.
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
but
I
think
the
emotions
are
flaring
right,
now,,
because
one
we're
not
making
references
to
anyone's
names
in
this
document.
we're
we're,
making
generalized
statements
as
though
the
entire
board
we're
making
it,
or
the
entire
supportive
or
opposition
group
in
the
in
the
board.
we're
making
singular
statements..
I
think.
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
or
at
least
written
from
the
same
perspective,
clab,
evan
anderson:,
and
I
think
we
need
to
have
some
accountability
in
these
in
these
documents..
If
we're
going
to
limit
it
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
words,,
then
somebody
make
a
motion
and
say,
we're
going
to
cap
it
at
two
hundred
and
fifty
words..
But
I
can
tell
you
I
would
never
support
that,,
because
some
of
this
doesn't
deserve
two
hundred
and
fifty
words,,
and
some
of
it
deserves
two
thousand
five
hundred.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
The
implications
of
some
of
these
different
recommendations
could
not
be
more
profoundly
different..
So
to
equate
every
one
of
these
recommendations
to
be
the
same
thing.
to
have
the
same
weight
with
counsel..
The
same
weight
with
parents
in
this
town
is
just
wrong.
um,,
so
I
think
it's.,
it's
dangerous
to
limit
ourselves
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
words
on
subjects.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
that
will
clab,
evan
anderson:,
inevitably
take
up
a
hell
of
a
lot
more
time
at
council
level
when
they're
reviewing
it
than
others..
I
mean
some
of
this
is
not
very
controversial.
some
of
it's
extremely
controversial.,
so
I
think
we
need
to..
We
need
to
be
acknowledged..
We
need
to
acknowledge
that.
Maybe
this
is
the
best
structure.,
but
if
this
is
going
to
be
the
structure.,
I
would
say
we
need.
K
K
K
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson::
let's
acknowledge
that
these
clab,
evan
anderson:,
the
the
document
is
written,,
certainly
doesn't
represent
the
minority
opinion
in
certain
cases,
or
the
majority
opinion,
and
others
it's..
I
don't
think
it's
particularly
representative
of
the
deliberations
that
we've
been
through.,
so
I
think,
with
some
improvement
here.
and
I
mean,
robin
said,.
Let's
do
the
work,.
K
K
K
B
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
yeah,,
I'm
wondering..
Is
there
any
set
protocol
like
alona?,
it
sounded
like
you
said.
Maybe
there
was
some
sort
of
set
way
guidelines,,
whether
that's
statutory
or
not,,
that
we're
supposed
to
submit
this
with
that
advisory
board.
submit
this
type
of
document
to
council
is.
Does
that
mean?
Is
that
something
that
exists??
Is
there
a
set
protocol
or
guideline?,
whether
that's
stat
story
or
not?.
D
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
advice
from
a
board
is
supposed
to
get
to
city
console.
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:.
I'm
not
aware
of
any
specific
guidelines
that
have
been
provided,,
but
what
we
can
do
is
look
at
what
previous
advisory
boards
have
provided
to
city
council
in
the
past,
and
use
those
as
examples.
um,.
But
outside
of
that,
I'm
not
aware
of
any.
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
specific
directives
from
council
and
I'm
not
sure
if
kathy's
on.,
but,
kathy,,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,.
J
J
J
Cob,
kathy
haddock:,
uh,
or
let
you
know
when
when
this
was
all
started.,
I
believe
it
was
in
september,
made
sense
to
me.
um!
the
reason
why
staff
didn't
do
this
draft
is
not
because
staff
decided
that.,
but
the
board
did..
If
you
want
to
give
staff
direction
to
take
another
shot
at
doing
a
draft
that.
J
J
B
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
for
meeting,
and
they
earn
two
hundred
and
thirty-nine
dollars
and
forty
cents
per
meeting,,
which
over
a
year's
period
of
time,
adds
up
to
twelve
thousand
four
hundred.
they're
not.
they're
not
getting
paid
a
lot
of
money
to
do
this,,
so
you
know
the
easier
we
can
make
it.
B
G
B
B
K
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
the
the
recommendations
that
we
make
here
have
ripples
and
their
job
to
review..
Everything
we
provide
is
is
unimpeachable..
They
must
do
it.
it's
what
they
need
to
do..
It's
why
we
voted
for
them,,
so
I'm
not.,
I
don't
feel
bad
for
the
city
council,
because
they
have
a
lot
to
read..
Welcome
to
the
smart,
city,
smartest
city
in
the
country,
you're.
B
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:.
The
motion
is
to.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
presents
to
counsel
the
contents
of
the
motions.
the
motions
themselves
with
va
arena
votes,
along
with
the
along
with
the
staff.
memo.
B
B
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
sure
member
anderson.
A
E
H
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
and
then,
submit
the
motions,
the
memo
and
the.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
I
want
to
the
next
floor
like
what
we
should
then
do,,
if
not
that
you..
So
we
we
rolled
out
the
easy,
easy
mode,,
so
we're
not
going
with
easy
mode..
So
then
we
started
at
this
discussion..
So
maybe
we
can
bracket
this
that,
like,.
We
want
to
proceed
with
the
format.
That's
been
played,
out.
G
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
sort
of
recommendation,
instead.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
can
I
ask
in
the
recreation
for
this
week
or
this
some
months.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
pack,
it.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
robin
circulated
the
draft
last
month,
and
then
I
took
the
other
side
on
so
there
several
issues
that
she
read.
so
uh,.
I.
G
G
B
H
H
Clab,
robin
noble::
maybe
we
limit
it
to
two
page
support
for
the
majority,
and
then
a
separate.
H
H
H
H
H
H
B
H
Clab,
robin
noble:
clab,,
robin
noble:
and
more
of
it,.
You
know,
overall
opinion
piece
on
those.
You
know
different
elements.
but
again,,
two
pages
to
support
or
defend
your
position.
and.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
like
really
guilty,,
suggesting
something
like
that,,
because
I
know
that
would
take
a
lot
of
work,
and
I
would
hate,
but
that
on
staff
to
do
that.
something
else,
that's
floating
through
my
mind,,
because
I
do
understand
what
you're
saying,
and
it
sounds
like.
We
do
share
a
lot
of
the
same
feelings
as
evan
has
also
echoed
in
here
as
well,,
but
just
from
our
different
places.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
and
what?
If
clab,
stacy
green:,
we
didn't
go
with,,
say,,
two
hundred
or
two
hundred
and
fifty
words,,
but
each
one
of
us
made
a
short
summary
statement
of
our
opinions
on
one
of
you
know
each
of
these
issues
and
fewer
words
than
that,
and
then
add
that
to
a
summary
sheet
that
kathy,
similar
to
you,
know
that
one.
we
could
refine
that
more,
of
course,.
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
one
has
their
thought
there
and
then
they
could
go
back
to
the
meetings.
If
they
really
are
more,,
you
know,
curiosity.
and
you
could
reference
in
your
statement.
okay,
this,,
you
know,.
I
I
thought
this
way
because
of
the
guy
who
came
to
speak
about
this
or
that
right,
whatever
it
is.
That
was
important,
and
you
could
always
link
to
it
if
that
would
be
useful
to,,
and
if
it's
something
that
you
know
everyone
can
access..
So
that
was
something
that
I
feel
like.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
like
you're
saying,
michael,,
in
order
for
us
to
put
together
this
format
in
the
way
that
we're
totally
we're
talking
about
it's
almost
an
impossible.
ask
is
what
I've
been
saying,
all
along.,
it's
just.,
I
don't
even
understand
how
it
could
happen,
and
so,
maybe,.
If
we
break
it
out
further,,
then
we
get
together
as
a
majority
in
a
minority
and
right.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
an
opinion,
because,,
even
though
I
may
have
voted
some
ways
on
certain
issues,,
the
other
people
who
voted
the
same
way,
and
I
may
not
share
the
same
reason
why
right?
and
then
it
becomes
a
really
difficult
task
of
putting
that
into
a
distilled
way
into
a
document,,
and
it
it's
not
that
I
don't
think
council
should
have
to
read
a
longer
document..
I
don't
think
that
any
one
of
us
really
wants
to
dedicate
the
time
to
arguing
about
this
forever..
D
G
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
so
I
mean,
you
can
imagine
like
pushing
out
that
deadline
and
spending
like
an
if
we
wanted
to
follow
this
kind
of
format..
Now.
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
we
wanted
to
have
each
of
the
motions,
and
each
member..
This
council
had
an
opportunity.
Council,
board..
Each
member
of
this
board
had
an
opportunity
to
to
give
a
rationale
for
their
support
or
opposition.
one
hundred
and
fifty
words..
I
don't
know
what
the
right
number
is.
B
G
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
or
fewer
words..
If
we
decide
that
two
hundred
and
fifty
is
just
getting
too
long,
and
then
it's
also
an
opportunity,,
as
I
see
it,
for
people
to
put
as
much
or
as
little
as
they
want.
now
some
of
these
issues
we
like,,
I
think,
evan,
said
earlier,
we're
unanimous
on..
We
don't
really
need
to
like.
write
much
if
it's
unanimous..
Maybe
we
can
have
a
quick,
summary
statement
of
why
it
was
so
easy
for
us
to
all
agree
on
something..
But
this
is
an
opportunity
for
every
one
of
us
in..
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
board
is
set
up,,
like
evan,
said
earlier,
to
represent
different
groups
and
make
sure
there's
these
voices
heard..
I
just
don't
see
how
you
know
whether
it's
during
our
meetings
at
work,
or
you,
know,,
whatever
it
might
be..
If
we
have
to
schedule
another
session
to
work
on
this,.
D
D
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
evan's
opinions
more
important
on
a
certain
issue,
like,.
He
said,
because
he
represents
a
certain
stakeholder
group,.
So
then
they
could
look.
okay,
well,,
here's
what
evan
is
voting.,
so
I
I
just
think
it
allows
for
more
representation
of
our
voices
in
a
more
accurate
way
to
do
it.
That
way.
B
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
where
we
say
we're
not
going
to
support
or
recommend
edibles,
which
are
sort
of
the
smoke-free
consumption,
option.
and
so,.
If
I
have
a
city
council
members
like,,
why
are
you.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
like?,
why
are
you
voting
for
consumption,,
but
like
worried
about
smoke
like
not
only
for,,
like
the
most
like,
like
it's
like
hard
to
track
all
of
that.,
so
in
that
kind
of
specific
case
like,?
How
is
it
that
we're
sort
of
reconciling
like
no
edibles?
but
yes,
to
having
concerns
about
air
quality
and
h,
back,
and
things
like
that,.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
I
think,,
like
there
are
different
reasons
why
we,
why
we
vote
in
those
kinds
of
ways.,
I
think
counsel,
deserves
to
sort
of
like,.
Have
those
things
out
and
explain
versus
trying
to
spend
going
to
minutes.
and
uh,
uh,?
I
don't
think
that
necessarily
came
to
be
really
clearly
minutes.
anyway,.
I
am
in
sport,
this
idea
that
stacey's
continue
to
elaborate
that
for
each
motion.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
every
member
has
it
has
an
opportunity
to
provide
again,
just
making
up
a
number
two
hundred
and
fifty
words
for
their
y
or
name.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
robin,
and
I
would
also
remind
the
board
that
we're
approaching
five
o'clock..
We
can
take
a
break
sometime,
soon.
H
H
Clab,
robin
noble:
for
all
the
reasons
that
stacy
just
expressed.
for
the
reasons
brian
expressed,,
I
could
totally
get
behind
each
person
offering
up
their
rationale
for
their
vote.
um..
We
might
need
to
be
a
little
less
than
two
hundred
and
fifty
words..
Maybe
it's
two
hundred
words
um,
just
to
make.
H
B
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
the
rationale
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
for
the
majority,
and
that
person
checks
in
with
the
other
persons
to
make
sure
the
other
people
can
weigh
in
on
that,
and
the
same
for
the
minority
that
one
person
would
be
designated
the
person
to
uh,
or
at
the
minority.
Opinion,.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman,
(he/him):
and
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong.
but
um,,
I
think
that's
how
it
works.
B
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I
I
personally,
I'd
rather
do
absolutely
nothing.,
but
I
agree
with
the
statement
that
that
doesn't
seem..
You
know
the
best
way
because
of
what
brian
just
said
that
there's
too
many
areas
where
it's
like
someone's
going
to
scratch
their
head,
looking
at
just
a
summary..
So
if
my
concern
with
this
document
and
format
has
been,,
I
don't
see
a
way
that
all
of
us
can
feel
good
about
what
you're
describing.
having
a
majority
sit
together,
minority,
or
as
a
big
group.
however,.
We
do
it.
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
uh,,
michael
robin,,
and
myself
and
brian..
Each
of
our
statements
would
appear
next
to
our
names
in
the
document
under
the
heading
majority,
and
then
under
minority.
Likewise
for
those
people,,
and
so
it's
just,
it's
still
broken
up
that
way.,
but
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,,
it
honors
our
role
as
an
advisory.
Board.
more,
we're
not
a
core,,
so
we
don't
need
to
be
having
a
chief
justice,,
you
know,
or
majority..
B
B
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
yeah,
having
a
lot
to
offer
to
the
subject:
matter.
I'm,,
I'm
hesitant
to
say
we
need
to
say,
hey,
opposition.
You
have.,
you
have
your
opportunity
to
present
an
opinion
and
majority..
You
can
do
the
same.
um!.
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
well,,
my
vote
is
pretty
predictable.
Predictable,
and
robin's
vote
is
pretty
predictable..
There's
a
lot
of
fluidity
in
the
in
between
there.
so
being
able
to
just
get
into
your
corners
and
say
that
we
could
make
arguments
from
either
side
is
not
going
to
be
easy,,
especially
when
the
people,.
K
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I
think,
evan.,
sorry
I
I
didn't
mean
to
jump
in.,
but,
evan,.
I
think
what
you
said
before
is
important,
that
your
opinion
is
important
on
these
issues.
now,.
That's
not
to
say
we
could
add
it
to
the
majority
or
minority.
however,.
We
set
this
up,,
but
I
do
think
it
is
important
for
you
to
have
an
opportunity
to
also
write
your
number
of
words,.
Whatever
we
decide
and
say.
here's
my
feedback,,
but
I
didn't
get
to
vote,
because
I
wasn't
yet
on
the
board,
or
or
whatever.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
I
think
I
think
really
what
I
was
getting
at
is
that
I
I
think
I'm
gonna
want
to
write
a
little
bit
for
myself
on
some
of
these,,
especially
the
ones
that
I
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
provide
to..
I
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
debate
that
I
think
there's
there's
some
pretty
critical
things
that
did
not
get
discussed,
so.
K
B
L
L
L
Clab,
michael
christy:
for
example,
stacy,,
because
you
felt
you
were
not
aligned
with
the
thinking
on
the
majority..
You
could
certainly
do
that..
I
I
was
hearing
some
complaints
from
members
of
the
board
about
the
time
commitment
to
have
to
do
this.,
but
yet
we're
still
talking
about
two
hundred
and
fifty
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
words
per
issue..
Now
it's
per
person
as
opposed
to
happy.
L
L
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I
just
from
a
like
efficiency
standpoint.
I
can't
like
for
myself,.
I
can
very
quickly
and
easily
write
my
summary
statement
of
the
way
I
voted,,
but
then
that
I
can
imagine
how
much
time
it's
going
to
take
me..
I
can
even
predict
it.
it's
completely
unpredictable,
and
likely
a
vast
amount
of
time.
That's
going
to
be
required
for
me
to
sit
here
and
talk
to
the
other
people
who
voted
the
same
way
as
I
did,
and
convince
each
other
why,
enough
to
distill
that
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
works.
D
D
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
yeah,
um..
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
if,
if
you
know,
the
board
is,
is
willing
to
allow,
you
know,
exit
theo
members
to
to
provide
an
opinion,,
then
I
would
think
that
evans
would
be
provided,
or
somebody
that
wasn't
able
to
vote
that
day.
I
I
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
but
it's
obviously
not
the
the
majority
of
minority.,
but
it
would
be
this
other
opinion
right
where
the
ex
officio
lives,,
where
the
potential
evan
lives
when
he
was
not
a
part
of
the
board,
and
we're
non-present
members,.
Just
just
trying
to
like
get
the
full
scope
of
the
potential.
B
B
B
E
E
L
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
it's
accomplishing
the
jam
board.
C
C
B
E
B
B
B
K
B
C
J
J
J
J
J
Kathy
haddock,
(she/her):
vote,,
I
mean,
obviously,
when
things
start
happening
as
a
result
of
it,
changing
your
votes
after
recommendation
is
sent
to
the
city.
Council
doesn't
really
do
much
good,,
but
up
until
the
time
the
recommendation
is
sent.
um!.
It's
the
board's
decision
about
what
to
do,,
and
that
includes
new
motions.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
I
I
appreciate
that,
kathy.,
I
I
will,.
I
will
limit
my
new
motions
and
rekindling
of
old
conversations
to
what
I
promise
to
be
a
very
small
handful
of
specific
subjects,.
I
think,
need
to
be
reconsider.
B
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
yeah.,
I
started
going
to
this
path,
the
slime
reasoning
that
you're
starting
to
go
down
over
the
break
as
well,
that,
like
maybe
we
like,
assign
people
to
each
thing
like
right.
there'll,
be
the
opinion,
and
other
people
can
like,
as
michael's
kind
of
moving
to..
You
can
like
co.
sign
it,
or
have
their
own
sort
of
concurrent
opinion.
um,.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
because
I
am
mindful
of
honest,
concerns.,
there's
a
very
legitimate
one:
that,
like,
you
know,
asking.
If
there
are,,
I
don't
know,,
make
up
a
number
ten
different
motions:
here.
ask
each
person
right,
you
know,
up
to
two
hundred
and
fifty
words..
It
might
be
enough
to
say
that
you
see
someone
else,
writes
and
say,.
I
concur
with
x.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
might
be
sufficient.
um!.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
so
I
started
to
go
down
this
sort
of
line
of
thinking,
like,
oh,.
We
should
assign
people
to
motions
like
either
lead
writers
and
things
like
that.,
but,
um!.
That
might
just
be
too
much
work.
um!.
I
spent
about
two
hours:
writing
these,.
So
it's
not
an
untruely
amount
of
time.,
but
um,.
B
L
L
H
clab,
robin
noble:.
If
we
had
more
substantive
written
words
um,,
we
could.,
we
could
work
through
something..
So
I
you
know,
in
the
time
we've
been
talking
it
through
just
to
have
more
on
the
page
would
be
helpful,.
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
to
try
to
get
into
this
document
again..
My
main
concern
leaving
tonight's
meeting
is
that
people
don't
have
access
to
the
document,
or
they
don't
use
it,
or
they're
doing
something
wrong..
I
know
that
again.
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
this
kind
of
individual
opinion
model
promotion,.
E
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
wrong
by
saying
that
clab,
stacy
green:
you'd
be
willing
to
also
contribute.
but
you're,
not
comfortable
with
the
document,
the
way..
It
stands
for
your
own
reasons,
like
the
way
the
format.,
but
maybe,
if
you
had
this
more
individual
approach,
that
would
be
better
for
you,
somehow,
or
I
want
to
be
more
clear
how
you
feel,
too,,
because
it
seems
like
we're
close
here
like
to.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
haven't
already
written
text,
because,
like
robin
and
michael,
you
guys
taking
all
this
time
already.
then
you
already
know
what
it
would
take
to
maybe
add
a
few
more
sentences
of
less
words
on
some
of
these
topics.,
so
we're
not
even
that.,
far
from
everyone
offering
their
opinions,
and
I'm
still
just
stumped,
and
over
the
break..
That
was
what
kept
striking
me
was
like,.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
well,.
What
if
we
just
say
a
hundred
words,
right?,
I
mean,
that's
really
like
when
I
fill
out
contact
forms
online,.
I
struggle
to
get
it
down
to
one
hundred
words..
So
it's
like
really
short
right?.
Two
hundred
words
really
isn't
long
like
that
might
be
hard
to..
But
if
you
don't
have
much
to
add
on
a
topic,
you
can
just
say.
D
D
G
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
I
think
the
most
important
thing
that
we
do
leaving
this
meeting
is
making
sure
that
everyone
can
open
the
document..
They
know
how
to
like
check
the
reviewing
box,
and
that
they
can
make
a
change
or
make
a
comment,,
and
if
everyone
can
do
that,,
I
would
be
thrilled
to
close
at
the
meeting
on
that.
L
L
L
D
Clab,
stacy
green:.
I
think
everyone
needs
to
say
something
right,
like.,
whether
it
is
I
feel
the
same
as
michael
and
robin,
or-
and
I
don't
have
anything
else
to
add
fine;,
but
I
I
think
every
member
should
have
their
opinion
represented..
If
they
don't
have
one
beyond
their
vote,.
They
can
just
say
that.
D
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
to
have
a
statement
that
suggests,
you
know,
a
grouping
or
a
majority,
makes
this
statement,
and
then,.
If
I
want
to
add
something,,
I
can,,
then
it's
like
emphasizing
my
voice
or
anyone
else
who
does
that;,
whereas
if
it's
just
really,
pragmatically,
like
listed
out
like
michael
stacy,,
right,
brian,
like
we
go
forward.
if
that
is
nothing
to
add
fine,,
but
it's
I
just..
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
having
this
like.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
summary
that
we've
agreed
to
somehow,,
tacitly
or
not.
I
I
just
it,
doesn't
feel
right
to
me,
and
it
doesn't
feel
like
it
really
like
the
way
we're
set
up..
If
you
think
how
we're
supposed,
this
board
is
actually
supposed
to
be
structured,
is
to
have
all
these
voices
represented
equally,,
and
so
we
should
present
our
document
that
way.
D
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
um,,
I'm
changing
it's
like
robin
for
the
minority,.
As
far
as
I
know,
we're
the
only
two
ones
in
this
document.
um,,
but
that
might
just
illustrate.
we're
trying
to
do
here.
stay
through
your
point..
I
think
we're
just
trying
to
like.
lower
the
overhead,
that
if
you
have
nothing
to
add,,
you
can
just
sign
on
to
other
someone
else's
statement.,
but
there's
not
this
kind
of
forced
consensus
kind
of
process
that
we
started
off
with..
I
think
it's
just
that,
like.
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
part
of
this
document,
and
whatever
way
I'm
not
making
any
suggestions,,
we
wanted
to
include
those
voices,
too..
We
could,
you
know,,
and
it
would
just
be
a
way
like,.
You
know,
the
board's
designed
to
have
exit
issue
members..
Obviously
their
opinions
are
valued.,
they
wouldn't
be
here
otherwise,,
and
so
we
should
have
that
represented
to,
if
they
wish
to
share
an
opinion,,
even
though
they
didn't
vote,
and
that's
as
I
see,
this
document
being
like
equal
representation..
If
you
don't
have
anything
to
add.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
fine,,
you
could
literally,,
there
could
be
a
word
like
deferred,
or
I
don't
know
whatever
word..
If
you
don't
want
to
say
anything,,
and
I
just
don't
see
why
we
need
to
like
start
crafting.
Other
styles
like
that
to
me,
is
like
super
straightforward,
and
every
motion.
It's
just
listed
out
to
remember.
G
B
J
K
D
D
D
J
J
J
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
totally
agree.,
but
what
I've
been
hearing,
and
I
definitely
would
fall
into
this.,
but
it
sounds
like
a
lot
of
people
have
similar
concerns
for
just
different
reasons.,
but
this
document
that
we've
been
working
on
creating
in
that
style
that
you're
saying
right,
like
the
original
idea,
is
like,
yeah,,
just
keep
it
straightforward,
recommendations.,
nobody
like
that.,
we
all
voted
against
it.,
okay,,
fine.,
so
then,.
Here
we
are
trying
to
say
majority
minority.,
but
we've
been.
D
J
Kathy
haddock
(she/her):,
so
I
think
somebody
suggested
going
through
the
comments,
and
seeing
which
ones
people
really
did
agree
with
or
disagree
with..
I
think
you
might
handle
some
of
the
comments
very
differently
than
others.,
but
right
now
all
the
discussion
is
has
been,
is
I
disagree
with
everything,
or
I
agree
with
everything
which.
J
Clab,
stacy
green:
isn't
getting
you
very
far
in
your
discussion
tonight..
Could
we
do
it
like
as
a
mix
where
the
document
could
like.
you
know,
there's
some
issues
that
it
doesn't
sound
like
there's
any
real
need
to
write,
much
of
an
opinion
on
it
kind
of
speaks
for
itself.,
and
so
could
you
do
a
mix
of
the
ones
that
really
do
have
so
many
different.
D
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
you
know,
real,
solid
science
fact.,
and
so
I
I
guess
this
topic
does
feel
like
it
needs.
Maybe
a
different
model,
like,
you
know,
just
in
unless
I'm
wrong.
and
everyone's
like,
yeah,.
We
can
easily
agree
with
the
way
it's
written
right,
now.,
but
I
haven't
heard
anyone
say
that
we've
been.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
just
to
answer
that
question,
stacy.
anyone
can
write
whatever
they
can
say..
It
could
be
stacy
green,,
commenting
for
herself
only,
or
commenting,
for,.
You
know,
on
this
topic.
uh,
but,
kate,
you've
been
waiting,
patiently.
I
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
and
I
I
know
that
we're
trying
to
adjust
it
with
different
people's
names.,
but
I
feel
like,.
Why
not?
we
go
back
to
that
piecemeal
approach
of
like,
okay..
Now
we
have
the
format.
now
do
we
want
opinions
to
be
added
or
not
right,
like
that?
hasn't
been
a
question.
That's
been
asked
like
just
because
kathy's
demo
was
not
the
deciding
one
that
people
wanted..
I
just
think
that
there's
other
questions
that,
like.
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
we're
we're
working
off
of
this
document
because
it
exists,
not
because
everybody
agrees
that
this
is
the
right
format..
We
still
have
an
agreed
on
that,
and
I'm
not,,
and
I'm
not
trying
to
go
back
in
time
and
make
this
harder..
I
just
feel
like
we're,
starting
to
work
on
a
document
that
we
haven't,,
and
I
know
that
we're
trying
to
do
something
and
move
forward.,
and
this
is
what
we
have,,
but
I
just
feel
like.
I
I
I
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
you
know
one
thing
at
a
time,
or
one
topic
like
like
the
the
format,
gets
decided.
and
then
this,,
and
then
we
talk
about?
okay,
well,.
Is
it
all,
or
is
it
three
to
four
opinions??
Are
we
going
to
include
state
law
or
we
not??
Are
we
just
going
to
do
the
recommendations?
First,?
Like
you
know,,
like
I
mean,
robin
recommended
earlier.,
we
do
the
recommendations,
and
then
these
are
appendices
like
I.
I
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
but
if
there's
a
different
way
to
I,,
I
just
think
that
is
working
on
this
document
hard
because
of
this
document,,
and
we
should
just
start
with
a
new
format
and
a
new
structure.
um,.
I
also
want
to
say,,
and
this
is
the
side
point..
I
do
think
that
there
should
be
whatever
we
decide
today
for
this
document
or
a
new
document..
I
would
recommend
that
yeah
like
to
brian's
point..
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
in
an
hour
of
that
meeting.,
the
time
that
we
have
reserved.,
we
are
doing
some
work
in
that,
and
maybe
that
saves
some
time,
and
maybe
people
can
do
it
before
if
they
have
the
time,
and
they
hope
that
they
do;.
But
if
not,
we
reserve
some
time,
instead
of
having
a
three
hour
meeting
with
us,,
just
talking
about
whether
or
not
we
want
to
document
what
we
want
it
to
look
like.,
we
can
actually
like.
I
E
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
but
more
to
stacy's
point
about
saying:
you're
in
the
minority
or
in
the
majority.
can't
we
just
leave
it
up
to
the
individual
member?
as
to
what,.
If
they
want
to
make
a
comment,,
they
can
make
a
comment,
and
they
can
say.
L
Clab,
michael
christy:
council
will
know
whether
you're
in
the
majority
or
in
the
minority,,
because
we're
going
to
list
out
into
again..
My
hope
is
that
we
would
list
out
individual
names.
um,.
I
I
guess
it's
to
me.,
it's
semantics,,
whether
you
say
you're
in
the
minority
or
the
majority..
But
if
you
don't
wish
to
say
that
you
don't
have
to
say
that.
I
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):,
and
so
that's
my
concern
is
that
like,
have
we
gotten
past
that
part
of
it
to
know
that
this
is
what
we're
actually
doing?
and
when
I
also
saw
this
this
happening.,
I
thought
we
were
going
to
do..
Here's,
the
motion.,
here's
the
majority
here,
the
names
of
the
majority
that
voted
that
way:
here,
the
minority
here,
the
voters,,
and
then
they
can
list..
I
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
and
I
voted
this
way
and
that's
fact.,
and
then
we
have,
you
know,
the
minority,,
the
the
minority
as
a
header.,
and
then
you
have
those
people
listed
underneath,
and
they
list
their
things,.
And
then
you
have
other
opinions,
and
I
can
was
fine..
Alison
can
listen
to
his.
I
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
um.,
clab,,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
so
case
points
are
extremely
well
taken..
I
think
that
we
did
sort
of
you
still
need
sort
of
commitment
like
doing
it
in
this
kind
of
format..
My
hope
is
just
to
illustrate
how
it
could
be
done
so
that
we
are
to
have
something
to
think
with
versus
talking
in
the
abstract,
about
court,
cases,
and
being
the
court
not
being
a
court
which
is
brought
up.
Some
strong
feelings.
um!.
G
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
motion
that
passed,
every
single
member,,
including
exit
to
your
members,,
including
late
joiners,.
B
H
H
Clab,
robin
noble:,
my
my
access
is
through
gmail,
too..
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
edit..
I
just
have
to
try
to
figure
out
where
this
is
going
to
sound
so
dumb.,
but
where
my
junk
holder
is,
and
try
to
find
the
microsoft,
and
they'll
it'll
typically
ask
you:
if,
if,
if
you
want
to
request
permission,
to,.
E
G
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
um:
yeah..
What
I
was
going
to
add
is
that
I
think
I
kind
of
wanted
to
further
brian's
effort
formulating
what
this
motion
would
be.
uh,.
I
I
believe
that
we
can.
we
can.
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
I
mean
that's
what
the
courts
call
it..
If
you
want
to
have
an
a
a
a
differing
opinion
from
your
vote,,
then
from
the
vote
you
made,,
then
you
add
a
signing
statement,
or
you
just
sign
on
to
the
majority
or
minority
opinion..
In
that
other
situation,
every
person
has
an
opportunity,.
If
they
choose
to;,
if
not,
they
can
just.
K
K
B
G
B
B
G
G
E
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
but
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):.
We
can't
discuss
this
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
wherever
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):.
Is
there
anybody
who's
required
to
make
a
motion?.
E
clab,
alana
malone:
clab,,
alana
malone:
different
member.
clab,
alana
malone:.
I
heard
a
couple
of
people
kind
of
piggyback
on
that,,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
it
wasn't
still
an
option,
because.
D
D
D
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
kathy.
J
J
J
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):,
so
just
to
I
a
comment:
about,
you
know,
response
to
to
alana
and
kathy's
statements
there.
I
I
do,,
I
do
think,
just
from
trying
to
be
as
objective
as
possible..
I
do
think
that
it
would
be
very
different
if
we
started
from.
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
a
document
that
was
clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
put
out
by
the
staff,,
and
then
we
could
make
comments
to
that.
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):,
I
know,
robin,
how
much
time
and
effort
it
goes
to
put
into
something
like
this,,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
you
did
it..
I
I
do
think
that
there's
sometimes
a
reason
why
allison
and
I
did
it,
because
we
aren't
voting
members,
and
I
think
that
that
feels
a
little
more
objective,,
and
so
people
can
get
down
with
that
when
it's
from
one
member
it..
I
think
that.
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
it's
starting
with
a
document
from
the
staff.
and
then
we
edit
that
I
mean
you're,
you've
already
done
the
work,
you
know,
like..
So
so
it's
really
just..
It
would
be
you
adding
context
to
whatever
staff
wrote.
um,.
I
do
want
to
just
acknowledge
that
it
is
a
lot
of
work
that
you
put
into
it,
and-
and
I
don't
want
that-
to
go
and
notice.
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson
(she/her):
you
as
well.
brian.
um,,
I
want
to
say
that,,
and
I
do
think
that
you're
ahead
of
the
game,
because,,
no
matter
what
we
do
from
here,
on,
out,
you've
already
put
in
that
that
effort
and
that
will
be
used
in
whatever
format
we
may.
I
H
H
Clab,,
robin
noble:,
I'm
sorry.
This
document
feels
charged..
I
just..
I
want
everyone
to
understand
that
we
all
hold
positions,
strong
positions
based
on
our
experience.
um,
and
we've
all
experienced
legal
marijuana
in
this
community
differently.
H
H
Clab,
robin
noble:,
but
here,
there,.
If
we
go
forward
with
the
staff
off
author
document.,
I'm
really
happy
to
look
at
that,
and
and
have
the
debate
about.
If
that's
representative,
of
what
our
conversations
and
deliberations
have
been,,
I
think
we
owe
it
to
the
council
to
give
the
full
picture
of
our
conversations
that
I'm.
open
to
looking
at
a
staff
author,
document.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
thank
you.,
sorry
I'll,
be
the
contrarian,
and
say
that
I
don't.
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
we're
going
to
want
to
get
in
and
sort
of
needle
around,
and
the
other
side
statements
that
like.
is
this
an
accurate
reflection??
We
want
to
like,,
add
our
own
like,
and
it's
gonna.
I
think
it's
like
a
like
a
like..
It
feels
like
it's
a
big
ask
for
step
to
kind
of
go
through..
Try
to
summarize
all
these
things.
um,.
G
G
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
by
commute
committee
like
these
majority
minority
statements.
B
B
L
L
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
the
the
reality
is,
this
is
a
charged
document..
These
are
arguments
on
both
sides,
and
the
arguments
should
be
made,
and
let
council
decide,
based
on
the
arguments
that
are
presented
to
bill
side
from
both
sides..
Let
council
decide
what
they're
going
to
do.
um,.
I
think
that.
L
L
L
Clab,,
michael
christy:,
so
I
I
agree
with
you,,
brian
and
tom..
I
I
don't
think
that
relying
on
staff
to
accurately
capture
the
the
intent
and
the
emotion
behind
all
of
our
votes
is
going
to
do
us.
Justice,,
and
I
I'm
concerned
that
we
will
wind
up.
L
Clab,
michael
christy:,
in
the
same
place.
we
are
tonight
debating
and
debating
whether
or
not
staff
accurately
got
it
right,,
and
maybe
those
in
the
majority
would
say,
well,
staff
got
it
right
on
the
minority
side,,
because
it's
sort
of
watered
down
in
their
opinion.,
so
they
like
that,
and
maybe
those
and
the
minority
would
say,
um,.
They
got
it
right
on
the
majority
side,,
but
the
majority
stock
going
degree
because
it
doesn't
have
what
the
majority
wanted
in
it..
I
think
we
need
to
stick
to
the
format..
That
is.
B
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
I'm
really
bad
at
that
kind
of
thing..
It
causes
a
lot
of
anxiety..
I
was
just
counting
on
you.
Somebody
else,
who's
more
eloquent
with
those
types
of
things
should
do
that.,
but
it
sounds
like
we're
really
close
in
that.
this
is,.
You
know,
I
agree
with
my
goal
exactly
how
we
just
set
it,
and
that's
what
I
was
trying
to
say
earlier,,
but
on
the
version
of
us.
D
D
Clab,
stacy
green:,
that's
I
agree.
why,.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
do
it.
The
way,
you
know,
as
far
as
using
this
document,,
we
could
clean
it
up.
Quickly.,
I
think
so..
It
doesn't
feel
like
this
is
the
original
document
from
robin,,
because
it's
simply
going
to
be
anything.
robin
wrote
it
that
fits
into
her
word
requirement.
She
can
have
here
with
her
name
on
it,
and
that's
it..
If
other
people
want
to
add
opinions.,
they
can,,
and
I
think
that.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
have
it.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
I
was
not
going
to
make
a
motion,,
but
you
said
that
right
at
the
end,,
so
I
apologize.
thought
it
was.
What
I
was
gonna
say
is
that
I
now
just
have
gained
access
to
the
editable
version
of
this
document.
um,.
Obviously
I
I
I
agree
that
the
there
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
spectrum
of
opinion
expressed
in
here,
and
I
think.
K
K
K
K
K
B
J
Kathy
haddock,
(she/her):
um,
yeah,,
if
you
yes,,
because
that
it
dies
for
lack
of
a
second..
So
it's
dead
for
lack
of
a
second.
G
C
C
K
B
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:.
Certainly
you
can
get
my
mouse
working.,
sorry
about
that.,
um,,
yes.,
so
um..
I
do
have
the
current
version
of
the
motion
proposed
by
member
anderson
to
push
back
the
the
document.
approval.
to
the
march
twenty,
twenty,
three
meeting.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
and
I
have
that
seconded
by
member
key
in.
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
need
to
clarify
something
in
in
reference
to
what
kristen
just
said.
K
K
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
sure.,
so
I
think
what
evans
proposing
is
to
have
a
final
version
in
february,.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
member
christie,
support
the
motion.
D
B
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
in
favor
of
it,.
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
alright,,
I
would
motion
that
uh,.
We
proceed
with
a
model
where,
for
each
motion,
that's
been
test
by
this
board.
D
Clab,
stacy
green:
did
that
include
a
way
to
get
evan
some
sort
of
line.
item
on
this
in
the
way
you're
wording
it..
I
wasn't
sure.
G
B
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
um,
clab,
evan
anderson:,
not
to
complicate.,
but
I
have
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
the
way
that
will
phrase
brian
in
the
case,
that
there
is
a
a
large
group
of
individuals.
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
If
some
people
don't
want
to
make
a
comment
cool,,
then
you
give
your
two
hundred
words
to
the
person
who
has
a
lot
to
say
about
it,,
because
I
think
some
of
these
deserve
a
lot
more
than
I
certainly
know.,
I'm
going
to
be
very,
very,,
very
hard,
pressed
to
summarize
my
opinions
on
some
of
these
in
two
hundred
words.
G
G
I
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:
uh,
to
to
further
complicate
that
one
signatories,
equal
voters.
K
G
B
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
phone,
a
friend.,
so
I
would
say:
this,
everyone
start
with
two
hundred
words..
If
it's
not
enough,,
we
can
address
it
in
the
next
meeting..
If
you
really
want
to
kind
of
move
this
motion
forward
and
get
to
other
mid
business.
have
to
raise
it.,
really
good
points..
I
think
those
details
can
be
worked
at
a
future
meeting.
B
D
G
D
G
Clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
I'll
respectfully
clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
decline,
events,
friendly
amendment.
we're
welcome
one
in
the
future.,
maybe
in
the
december
meeting,.
If
we
have
time
to
think
about
how
we
want
to
allocate
these
board
budgets..
But
let's
just
stick
to
two
hundred
words,
a
person.
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
okay,,
cob,
jon,
yslas:
yes,,
I
was
gonna,
say
thank
you.
member
keegan,.
If
you
could
please
state
your
motion
for
the
record
one
more
time,,
please.
A
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
thank
you.
and
for
voting
member
anderson.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
member
keegan
clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):
support
the
motion.
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
motion
passes.
E
E
K
K
Clab,
evan,
anderson:
and
I'd
prefer
to
be
able
to
offer
it
in
my
in
my
role
as
a
cloud
member
than
as
a
an
individual
speaking
in
public
hearing
during
the
city
council
deliberations..
But
some
of
the
stuff
needs
a
hell
of
a
lot
of
background
that
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
in
two
hundred
words
per
person..
So
not
sported,
motion.
B
B
C
B
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
I
think
the
courts
have
ruled
that
jeff's
provision
is
definitely
important,.
So
it's
not
not
exactly
a
cut
and
dry
situation..
I'm
sure
kathy
has
an
opinion
on
this
also,,
but
I
think
more
more
than
anything.
just
proposal
was
a
procedural
issue.
to
make
sure
that
businesses
don't
get
shut
down
on
a
on
a
on
a.
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
expensive
and
difficult
fights
for
the
city
to.
K
K
B
J
Kathy
haddock,
(she/her):
I'll?
I'll
just
comment
that
the
the
information
was
in
your
packet
at
when,
when
this
was
brought
up
in
two
thousand
and
eighteen,,
with
the
responses
of
council
and
the
city
staff,
all
that
information
in
your
packet
already.
J
I
J
Kathy
haddock,
(she/her):
no,,
you
can
edit
it.,
it
shows
in
red
line.
Who
does
who
did
it??
It
was
that
you
have
to
keep..
You
can't
turn
off
that
function.
well,,
it's
gonna
be
in
the
reviewing
phone.
If
you're
doing
it
based
on
the
reviewing
or
edit,,
don't
do
it
in
the
editing
function,.
Do
it
in
the
reviewing
function,.
B
C
J
I
J
B
Clab,
kate
thomson,
(she/her):
um.,
I
was
just
gonna-
add
context
to
the
conversation
about
the
the
policy
form..
There
was
something
that
we
had
talked
about
last
time
that
that
I
think
we
were..
We
were
talking
about
it,
and
I
thought
we
were
getting
to
the
point
where
we
maybe
getting
towards
emotion.
and
um!.
There
was
a
conversation
about.
does
it
depend
on
what
type
of.
I
Clab,
kate
thomson
(she/her):
reason
that
the
the
business
was
shut
down,
if
it's
for,
like
tax
purposes
or
payment
versus
selling
to
a
minor
or
whatever
it
was.
um,,
there
were
different..
That
was
the
conversation
that
I
remember
that
we
last
spoke
about
before.
I
E
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
active
conversation
on
this
when
jeff
presented
it
at
our
last
meeting,,
and
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
it
gets
its
due
attention.
um!
so
that,
if
that's.
E
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
groundwork
that
we
can
do
for
the
city.
B
B
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
B
B
Clab,
evan
anderson:,
I
would
I
would
I'm
going
to
make
a
mo.
I'm
going
to
ask
that
we
we..
We
discuss
this
at
the
next
meeting,,
but
I'm
going
to
specifically
ask
jeff
to
submit
a
revised
proposal
before
the
comment
period
is
over..
What
I
believe
is
ten
days
before
our
next
meeting,
fourteen
days
before
our
next
meeting.
K
B
A
B
B
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
member
anderson?.
A
A
Cob,
jon
yslas:
member
keegan.,
clab,
brian
keegan
(he/him):,
yes,
clab,
tom
kunstman,
(he/him):
member,.
J
Kathy
haddock,
(she/her):
um,,
I
don't
have
anything
specific,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
kristen's,.
I
mean,
I
didn't
have
anything
specific
to
this,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
kristen
sunder..
I
just
do
want
to
make
sure
that
the
retreat
next
monday
accomplishes
what
you
all
want..
So
thank
you
all
for
things
that
you
have
put
in
the
jam
board..
If
there
is
any,,
I
guess
the
question
I'd
really
like
answer
to
is,
what
would
need
to
happen
next
monday.
J
Kathy
haddock
(she/her):-
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
people
can
answer
now,
or
if
you
feel
like
you've,
already
got
it
on
the
jam
board,
or
if
you
just
want
to
send
comments
to
christian
or
me,.
But
we
will
be
meeting
with
the
facilitator
on
wednesday
to
do
the
final
planning
for
it
so
really
want
to
make
sure
that
it.
J
J
B
B
K
J
J
C
C
C
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
um,.
So
that's
what
we'll
continue
to
do,
and
then
you
know
it
in
this
agenda
item
for
each
meeting.
just
provide
an
opportunity..
If
any
members
want
to
add
to
that
list..
So
once
we
get
through
a
hospitality
and
everything
else,
you'd
like
to
talk
about,,
we
can
focus
on
other
topics
as
well,.
H
Clab,
robin
noble:
thanks,
kristen..
I
would
just
clarify
on
that
list
that
the
educational
resource-
that's
there,
that
was
specific
to
the
colorado
department
of
public
health
and
education.
and.
H
I
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
about
tenth
anniversary
of
cannabis
being
approved
in
state
of
colorado.
C
Clab,
tom
kunstman,
(he/him):
cob,
kristen
changaris:
also
wanted
to
um..
Let
the
board
know
that
the
meeting
that's
scheduled
in
january
for
the
first
monday
of
january
actually
falls
on
a
city
holiday
for
the
years.
C
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman,
(he/him):
and
you'll
send
send
out
a
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
meeting
change.
C
F
J
B
J
Kathy
haddock,
(she/her):
yeah,,
we'll
do
them
on
wednesday
morning
because
we
meet
with
heather
in
the
afternoon.
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
um.
and
then
just
a
couple
of
notes
for
the
retreat..
So
I
think
you
all
know,,
but
the
retreat
is
going
to
be
held
at
the
fire
training
center,,
which
is
at
the
reservoir,
and
I'll,
be
sending
out
some
instructions
for
how
to
access
the
facility..
But
one
thing
I
really
wanted
to
highlight,
for
the
board
is
um..
The
main
entrance.
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:
excuse
me,,
cob,,
kristen,
changaris:
top
of
diagonal,
cob,
kristen
changaris:,
so,
like
I
said,
I'll,
be
sending
out
instructions..
But
if
you're
using
your
gps,
for
example,,
make
sure
that
it's
not
taking
you
to
the
main
reservoir
entrance,
because
that's
going
to
be
closed.
you'll
have
to
turn
around
and
go
back
through
the
side
insurance.
So
just
to
heads
up
about
that.
C
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
um.
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
so
two
things.,
so.
B
B
I
Clab,
kate,
thomson,
(she/her):
and
in
just
to
be
clear,
like
I
don't
expect,
like,
I
don't
expect
any
of
that.
I
plan
to
to
attend,
and
they
were
just
some
extent,
who's
good
circumstances,
and
I
couldn't
do
it.
um,
but
um!.
I
would
never
think
that
there
would
be
any
virtual
kind
of
video
aspect
of
that.,
but
if
you
all
had
a
a
like
a
conference
room,
one
of
those
conference
call
things
that
I
could
just.
I
C
Cob,
kristen
changaris:.
We
we
originally
weren't
anticipating,
setting
up
the
room
to
be
virtual..
But
let
me
check
in
with
my
point
of
contact
over
at
the
fire
training
center
and
see
what
options
we
have.,
kate
and
I'll,
send
those
to
you.
When
I
have
a
little
more
information.
I
J
J
B
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
yeah,.
I
miss
the
submission
period,
but
it'll
be
on
the
next
packet.
um,.
I
got
some
legal
advice
on
how
industry
should
look
at
and
handle
the
topic
of
conflict
of
interest
and
recusal.
um,,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
a
good
resource.
E
E
E
Clab,
alana
malone:
I'll
just
stay
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting
after
we
have
that
document.
B
E
B
B
K
K
K
K
K
Clab,
evan
anderson:.
It
is
not
the
same
as
us
having
to
recuse
ourselves.
Like
the
example
jeff
used
for
me
was,,
I
would
have
to
recuse
myself.
If
the
vote
was,,
you
can
only
put
hospitality
businesses
between
twenty,,
eight
and
thirtieth
on
mapleton.
well,
obviously,.
That
would
benefit
me
exclusively,
and
I
would
have
to
recuse
myself,,
but.
K
E
B
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):
just
summarizing
the
clab,
tom
kunstman
(he/him):,
I'm
sixty-four
in
the
past
ten
years.
K
B
Clab,
tom
kunstman,
(he/him):
oh,,
second
one,
and
any
opposition
to
that.
our
extent.