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So
much
Elisha
and
as
we
get
started,
two
important
matters
to
attend
to
one
is
I
would
just
like
to
ask
council's
permission
with
mayor
Pro,
tem,
walek
being
absent
if
Nicole
Speer,
who
is
sitting
to
my
right
if
she
could
be
the
person
to
take
over
if
I,
need
to
run
and
grab
a
snack
or
anything.
Is
that
all
right
with
folks
so
show
of
hands?
Yeah,
okay,
you're,
the
mayor,
Pro
temperature
and
also,
very
importantly,
I'm,
going
to
turn
to
councilmember
Benjamin
for
our
dad
joke
of.
G
All
right
so,
hopefully
everyone's
feeling
well
out
there.
What
do
you
call
a
pony
with
a
sore
throat
a
little
horse.
B
H
Coming
up
and
my
name
is
Ryan
Hansen
I
serve
our
Boulder
Community
as
Community
engagement
manager
and
appreciate
each
of
you
for
being
here
this
evening.
We
want
to
be
sure
to
share
that
the
city
has
engaged
with
community
members
to
co-create
a
vision
for
productive,
meaningful
and
inclusive
Civic
conversations.
H
This
Vision
does
support
physical
and
emotional
safety
for
community
members
staff
and
Council,
as
well
as
democracy
for
people
of
all
ages,
identities,
lived
experiences
and
political
perspectives.
Please
see
the
link
here
on
your
screen
for
more
information
and
we'll
look
at
the
next
slide.
Please
wanting
to
share
a
few
examples
of
rules
of
decorum.
These
are
found
within
the
boulder
Revised
Code
and
other
guidelines
that
support
this
Vision.
Each
of
these
will
be
upheld
during
this
meeting.
H
All
our
marks
and
testimony
shall
be
limited
to
matters
related
to
City
business.
No
participant
shall
make
threats
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person,
obscenity,
racial
alphabets
and
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct
the
beating
are
prohibited.
Participants
are
required
to
sign
up
to
speak
using
the
name.
They
are
commonly
known
by
and
individuals
must
display
their
whole
name
before
being
allowed
to
speak
online
I
currently
own.
H
The
audio
testimonies,
permitted
online
and
in-person
participants
are
asked
to
refrain
from
expressing
support
or
disagreement
verbally
or
with
Applause,
with
the
exception
of
council
declarations.
Traditionally,
support
is
shown
silently
through
American
Sign,
Language,
Applause
or
Das
hands.
Thank
you.
B
To
two
minutes,
Travis.
I
Aristotle
says
to
accept
persuasive
speech
from
a
skilled
mathematician
appears
comparable
to
demanding
demonstrations
from
a
skilled
rhetorician
today
I'm
going
to
try
and
accomplish
that
good
evening.
Council.
Thank
you.
Tara
weiner.
First
for
sticking
with
the
rocky
flat
Stewardship
Council
committee
assignment
I
have
to
commend
your
careful
negotiating
tact
because
of
your
unwillingness
to
serve
on
this
board
face
to
face.
I
A
victory
has
been
won
for
transparency,
social
and
environmental
justice.
As
you
know,
this
meeting
has
enjoyed
virtual
privacy
since
its
Inception
recently
executive
director,
David
Abelson,
boasted
144,
unique
private
interactions
since
February
of
2006
that's
17
years,
144
unique
interactions.
The
last
meeting
had
over
45
people
I
looked
to
see
more
attendance
at
these
meetings
for
the
record
record.
Miss
weiner
your
separate
oath
of
office
with
David
Abelson
LLC
does
not
prevent
you
from
making
conscientious
decisions
on
behalf
of
your
constituents
in
Boulder.
Why?
I
I
It
will
deny
any
relationship
with
the
Marshall
fire
because
it
doesn't
want
to
be
tied
to
its
cause
and
when
Lisa
Cutters
Bill
to
unite
State
Fire
protocols
comes
to
a
vote.
The
rocky
flat,
Stewardship
Council
will
be
decried.
Will
decry
this
movement
mark
my
words.
We
need
a
wildlife
resistancy
code
board.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
Evan
ravitz
North
Boulder
weeks
ago,
former
state
representative
Jonathan,
the
singer,
spoke
here
in
his
new
job
for
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
saying
the
chamber
wanted
to
work
with
the
city
for
more
affordable
housing
before
posing
as
our
pal,
the
chamber
should
fix
what
it
broke.
Former
city
manager,
Jane
brodigam,
admitted
at
a
2020
council
meeting
that
she
worked
behind
council's
back
to
obtain
so-called
opportunity
Zone
status
for
East
Boulder
part
of
the
Trump
Taps
cuts
for
the
wealthy.
This
will
speed,
gentrification
and
reduce
affordable
housing.
Emails
obtained
through
the
Colorado
open
records
act.
J
Show
the
chamber
worked
secretly
with
City
staff
to
make
this
happen.
Chamber
President
John
tayer
who
participated
in
the
incriminating
emails,
was
on
kgnu
radio
on
October,
7th
and
I
questioned
him
on
this.
He
pretended
that
the
opportunity
Zone
would
reduce
housing
costs.
This
is
laughable
and
City
council's
laudable
effort
to
mitigate
And
Delay.
The
damage
proves
it.
The
chamber
corrupted
our
Democratic
process
to
increase
investor
profits
at
the
expense
of
the
rest
of
us
and
its
president
and
CEO
lied
publicly
about
its
intentions
and
effects.
J
It
should
apologize
and
try
to
get
Congress
to
repeal
the
legislation
or
to
start
a
fund
to
subsidize
rent
in
the
gentrifying
area.
That's
what
the
chamber
should
be
doing,
not
a
charm
offensive
to
cover
up
what
it
did
and
the
new
city
manager
shouldn't
be
partying
with
the
chamber
that
corrupted
The,
Old
City
literature.
As
the
camera
reported,
she
did
to
celebrate
railroading
the
CU
South
annexation
as
an
emergency
ordinance.
Another
fraud
on
the
citizens.
K
B
L
Robert
hi
there
Mr
Mayor
city
council,
I
love
the
flat
irons
I've
been
hiking
in
the
flat
irons
for
about
15
years,
and
it's
really
true
that
nature
can
transform
you
it
can
any
heaviness
on
you
can
disappear,
especially
when
you're
back
there
about
two
years
ago,
I
started
noticing
the
proliferation
of
signs
of
every
type
going
up
every
place
on
the
trails
and
the
Flatirons
so
much
so
that
now
two
years
later,
I'm
here
only
because
is
this-
might
sound
a
bit
ridiculous,
but
the
incredible
place
that
just
the
nature
of
being
back
in
nature
would
take
me
to
I
cannot
get
there
anymore.
L
It's
just
one
sign
after
another.
What
was
a
Trailhead
that
was
this
high,
and
this
wide
is
now
this
high
and
this
wide
in
signs
that
were
this
big
or
now
this
big
and
now
there's
more
signs
and
all
you
do
is
in
in
the
new
in
the
split
rail
barriers
are
just
every
place,
and
it's
just
it's.
It's
ridiculous.
L
It's
out
of
control,
I
can't
get
to
my
well
happy
place
and
I
just
feel
like
the
open
space
for
roughly
what
120
years,
the
philosophy
has
been
leave
it
alone,
leave
it
natural
and
over
the
last
two
years
day
after
day
after
day,
there's
just
more
human
I'll
call
it
development,
I,
guess,
and
it's
just
it's
kind
of
prevents,
I,
think
people
who
are
truly
like
nature,
people
who
really
connect
when
we're
out
there,
which
I'm
sure
a
lot
of
us
are
I,
think
that's
why
we
live
here.
L
I
mean
look
at
our
symbols,
that
everything
is
the
flat
irons
and
it's
just
it's
so
sad
I
mean
for
me.
It's
actually
heartbreaking,
I
hope
we
can
get
rid
of
some
of
the
signs.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Robert.
M
I
wanted
to
thank
you
guys
for
not
pushing
through
a
new
police,
monitor
on
a
whim
and
let
you
guys
know
that
I
am
Rodriguez
for
versus
Lola
Thai
AKA,
also
known
as
and
my
federal
case
was
presented
to
Joseph
lopari
the
week
before
he
announced
that
he
was
leaving
for
some
reason.
I
questioned
his
quick
exit
on
that
I
believe
I'm,
one
of
the
ones
that
was
never
investigated.
Also.
In
addition,
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
second
subject
the
day.
Center
that
you
guys
are
talking
about.
M
Opening
I
have
personal
interest
in
that
I
am
a
lived
experience.
Member
I
have
I
was
a
member
of
the
coordinated
entry.
I
lived
on
the
streets
here
in
Boulder
for
approximately
three
years
I'm
now
five
years
into
housing,
I
still
go
to
feet
forward
and
with
Jennifer
as
I
know
her
from
then
I
know
her
now
I
feel
like
anybody
less
than
feet
forward,
or
somebody
with
lived
experience
to
run
that
day,
sitter
is
going
to
be
shortened.
M
The
city
I,
don't
know
anybody
else,
that's
stood
up
for
it,
but
the
people
that
are
out
here
that
have
lived
experience
or
or
the
people
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
successfully
run
something
like
that.
The
boaters
so
desperately
needs
right
now,
I'm
ashamed
to
say
that
I
couldn't
even
get
up
and
find
words
at
this
year's
memorial
for
our
homeless
I
stood
there
in
silence,
I'm,
disgusted
to
where
it's
it's
come
to
be
I'm,
disgusted
to
how
it's
being
handled.
M
I
know
for
a
fact
that
the
one
person
that
was
put
in
charge,
Kurt,
I,
guess
or
whoever
the
power
set
B
didn't
open
that
day's
shelter
for
this.
This
last
storm
that
just
happened
in
the
last
24
hours
until
last
night,
so
those
people
were
out
there
in
the
prime
part
of
that
storm.
I
know
that
I
commend
the
council
in
the
city
for
hustling
on
that
first
RT
blast
that
came
through
and
pushing
through
for
whatever
it
took
to
get
that
other
Center
open.
But
thank.
N
Hi
I'm
Rebecca,
Davies
and
I'm,
a
member
of
tab
I'm
here
to
tell
you
about
my
college
friend,
Kelsey
Carl
Cannon
Kelsey,
moved
to
Denver
soon
after
graduation
and
was
riding
her
bike.
One
day
in
the
Cherry
Creek
neighborhood,
she
was
approaching
an
intersection
when
her
bike
hit
a
curb
and
slipped
into
the
roadway
into
traffic.
N
You
can
read
about
that
in
the
tab
minutes
instead,
I
want
to
know
what
you
counsel
and
city
manager
are
going
to
do
about
this
dangerous
situation
in
the
short
term.
What
you
could
do
with
very
little
cost
and
effort
is
prohibit
cars
from
parking
on
the
Northbound
side
of
Broadway
when
large
cars
park
in
those
spots.
The
bike
lane
is
too
narrow,
forcing
people
to
Swerve
to
traffic
down
a
slanted,
curb
that
when
it's
wet
will
act
like
a
slip
and
slide
shunting
people
onto
a
road
that
carries
over
6
000
cars
per
day.
N
If
you
are
committed
to
Vision
zero
and
saving
lives
like
Galaxy's,
this
should
be
a
very
easy
call
to
make
to
direct
Community
Vitality
in
the
transportation
department
to
prohibit
parking
on
that
section
of
Broadway
until
a
safer
design
can
be
implemented
whenever
that
may
be,
please
take
ownership
of
this
situation,
close
the
parking
and
save
a
life.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks
Rebecca,
actually,
if
you
could
just
one
second
thanks
for
coming
to
us
today,
I
Know
Tab
had
a
meeting
just
this
week
at
which
you
discussed
that,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify.
Are
you
representing
a
personal
position
or
was
it
okay,
great,
but
I?
Appreciate
you
coming
thanks.
So
much
all
right.
We
have
two
virtual
speakers.
They
are
Lynn
Siegel
and
William
gretz.
O
Speaking
of
that,
what
you
really
need
to
do
in
Boulder
is
get
a
shuttle.
Do
something
Way
east
of
town
and
have
EV
shuttles
just
coming
in
constantly
shuttles,
then
going
up
to
the
recreation
areas-
and
you
know
this
is
the.
This
is
the
perfect
example
what
the
gal
just
said:
nobo
these
expansions,
the
millennium
1
000
student
bedrooms
in
there
45
new
micro
units,
300
square
feet
per
unit
at
22nd
and
Pearl.
O
So
what
does
this
mean
to
Boulder?
Oh,
yes,
it's
covering
the
middle,
the
the
missing
middle,
but
guess
what
the
the
price
of
the
things
1700
to
2600.
That's
without
a
parking
space,
and
do
you
know
what
a
parking
space
costs
in
Boulder
costs
897
dollars
a
month
or
thirty
dollars
a
day
according
to
cajid,
so
cutting
off
those
parking
spaces
up
on
North
Broadway.
You
know!
That's
a
big
deal.
You
know,
because
these
are
the
parking
space
is
the
the
god
of
Boulder.
O
This
development
is
gonna.
Have
it
such
you
can
have
as
many
mechanisms
as
you
want
for
getting
people
for
Mobility
getting
people
around.
You
can
do
that,
but
you
know
what,
as
as
you're
driving
up
the
population
in
this
place,
you're
gonna
have
the
bike
pass
jam-packed
with
people
like
the
guy
talking
about
the
flat
irons,
the
trails,
wider,
300,
300
million
dollar
deficit
on
the
Open
Space
Program.
How
are
you
going
to
pay
for
all
of
this,
and
especially
with
the
people
that
are
paying
three
or
four?
B
B
P
You
mayor
and
as
always
just
thanking
the
public
for
their
comments.
I'll
note
that
our
interim
director
of
Transportation
Mobility
is
not
here
today,
but
I
do
know
that
they
had
a
meeting
with
Tab
and
are
continuing
to
look
at
North,
Broadway,
so
happy
to
share
an
update
at
any
point
and
then
I
wanted
to
clarify
and
I
actually
appreciate.
Mr
Rabbits
is
sending
me
the
article
that
he
was
referring
to
I
want
to
clarify
for
community
that
it
was
a
chamber
event.
Q
Two
follow-ups,
one,
the
Flatiron
signage
I'd,
just
be
curious
to
know
what
what
we
may
be
doing
differently
on
open
space.
Could
we
maybe
get
an
update
on
what's
going
on
there
if
anything,.
Q
Thanks
and
then
also
in
keeping
with
the
North
Broadway
bike,
lane
I
actually
went
out
a
couple
months
ago
with
mayor,
Brockett
and
and
toured
the
area
and
had
some
concerns
and
thoughts,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
will
Council
have
a
chance
to
weigh
in
on
that
or
what
would
a
mechanism
be
for
that?
If
we
wanted
to.
E
Yeah,
this
is
for
Robert
in
regards
to
those
signs.
I
also
love
the
flat
irons
and
prior
to
the
new
signs.
I
found
the
old
signs,
confusing
often
they
would
just
point
up,
which
is
the
sky
as
far
as
I'm
can
tell
so,
I
think
the
new
signs
are
actually
excellent,
so
I
guess
it
depends
on
the
way
you
look
at
it.
I
often
in
the
past
was
walking
around
the
Flatirons
hiking
and
everybody
was
half.
E
B
C
B
All
right,
we
got
a
motion
in
a
second.
This
will
be
a
roll
call
vote.
O
K
C
Thank
you.
Our
public
hearings
are
item
five
on
tonight's
agenda.
5A
is
the
second
reading
and
consideration
of
emotion
to
adopt
ordinance,
8557
amending
section,
6-2-3
growth
and
accumulation
of
weeds,
prohibited
6-3-3
accumulation
of
trash,
recyclables
and
compostables
prohibited
and
6-3-9
special
trash
service
requirements
on
certain
residential
rental
properties
at
certain
times,
BRC
1981,
and
this
is
to
change
the
Civil
process
for
weeds
and
trash
violations
and
establish
a
set
fee
schedule
to
accommodate
the
new
civil
process
and
setting
for
related
details.
P
Thank
you,
Alicia
Council.
This
is
a
continuation
of
a
conversation
we've
been
having
for
a
while
now
and
it
really
started
prior
to
my
arriving
at
the
city
about
what's
happening
primarily
on
the
hill.
But,
as
we've
been
looking
at
the
issue,
it
really
has
some
applications
city-wide.
As
you'll
recall,
we
came
here
last
year
and
talked
about
sort
of
a
timeline
for
broader
changes,
as
we
were
thinking
about.
What
are
the
variety
of
interventions
we
want?
P
We
want
to
both
think
about
how
to
get
more
compliance,
how
to
incentivize
that
how
to
report
out
more
transparently
and
certainly
the
hill
revitalization
group
has
been
working
tremendously
on
a
variety
of
initiatives.
This
is
today
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
is,
but
one
that
staff
is
really
putting
forward
as
a
way
to
really
address
what
is
currently
only
a
criminal
process,
a
criminal
summons
process
and
really
adding
a
civil
administrative
process
to
the
the
toolbox
that
the
city
may
have
really
specifically
around
weeds
and
trash.
P
It
is
but
one
of
the
topics
that
we
will
be
discussing
throughout
the
year
staff
is
certainly
working
on
additional
things.
Like
increasing
tools
for
tenant
protections,
increasing
transparency
in
the
data
aspect
of
what
we're
doing,
having
more
robust
education
being
able
to
see
what
violations
have
been
issued
for
specific
Properties
by
the
public,
all
of
those
are
improvements
that
we
hope
to
bring
forward
at
some
other
point
and
today,
really
speaking
specifically
about
adding
a
civil
process
to
what
is
currently
that
criminal
summons
application.
P
So
with
that,
I
will
now
that
everybody's
settled
right
have
I
taken
enough
time.
I
will
pass
that
on.
We've
had
an
amazing
consultant
working
with
us
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
this
has
been
multi-disciplinary.
Cross-Departmental
work.
Amanda
Nagel,
who
is
with
unlocking
government,
has
been
hurting
the
city
cats.
If
you
will
well,
as
we
have
done
that
and
done
a
great
job
of
facilitating
the
hail
revitalization
working
group
as
well,
so
I
will
pass
it
on
to
her
to
introduce
herself
and
kick
us
off.
S
Mayor
Brockett,
members
of
city
council,
it's
really
a
privilege
to
come
before
you
not
representing
myself
or
my
own
company,
representing
all
of
the
work.
That's
been
done
today
by
the
hill,
revitalization
working
group.
It
really
is
a
wonderful
group
of
people
who
are
willing
to
come
together
and
sometimes.
S
S
S
Sorry
I
wasn't
prepared
to
run
the
machine
I
would
have
practiced
there.
We
go
how's
that
fantastic
I
want
to
recognize.
I've
been
working
with
the
hill
revitalization
group,
only
since
August
of
2021.
The
effort
for
that
team
has
taken
place
honestly
over
decades
under
different
names
and
different
processes,
but
really
heavy.
Since
the
beginning
of
2021.
S
Admittedly,
that
last
bullet
is
the
hardest
one
to
address
directly
and
I'd
like
to
contend
that
everything
that
we're
doing
will
build
into
that
we're
also
hearing
from
students
new
concerns,
additional
concerns,
as
news
students
join
the
group
and
will
be
continuing
to
identify
what
that
really
means
throughout
2023
next
slide
oops.
It's
me
again.
There
we
go
underneath
the
quality
of
life
projects.
You
saw
those
the
first
time
in
July
and
you've
saw
an
update
very
briefly,
September
1st
attached
the
daytime
noise
ordinance
we've
completed
several
of
those
as
a
team.
S
You
can
read
those
over.
On
the
left
hand,
side
the
daytime
noise
ordinance
came
to
you
all.
The
other
items
were
handled
at
the
department,
organizational
level
we
did
have.
Some
of
you
join
us
for
the
neighborhood
safety
walks.
Thank
you
for
doing
that,
and
there's
been
some
work
items
that
have
come
out
of
those
as
well
that
you
don't
necessarily
see
listed
here
as
a
project.
S
The
data
project
over
on
the
2023
side
is
a
continual
project
and
it
feeds
everything
else,
that's
being
done
throughout
the
year,
you're
going
to
continue
to
see
the
other
items
listed
there,
some
of
those
coming
to
you
directly
and
some
of
those
coming
to
you
as
an
update
for
departmental
work.
Jen
Riley
is
here
the
code
enforcement
unit
supervisor
and
she's
going
to
give
us
a
bit
more
of
an
operations
perspective
of
what
this
looks
like
tonight.
T
T
So,
as
Amanda
said,
my
name
is
Jennifer
Riley
and
I'm
the
supervisor
for
our
code
enforcement
unit
within
the
police
department.
We
actually
heard
directly
from
Amanda
some
feedback
from
that
Hill
revitalization
group.
We
also
get
feedback
continually
from
the
community
from
the
people
that
we
interact
with
through
our
daily
jobs
and
through
the
students
that
we
also
interact
with.
T
We
took
a
lot
of
what
we
heard
and
started
evaluating
our
process
to
find
out
what
we
can
do
better
and
how
we
can
change
what
we've
done
in
the
past
to
really
serve
the
community
in
a
really
responsible
way,
not
only
with
staff
time,
but
also
with
City
funds,
because
when
you
waste
staff
time
it
weighs
City
funds.
So
we
started
evaluating
our
process
and
found
that
the
last
piece
of
our
enforcement
step
after
we've
made
contact
we've.
Given
a
warning,
we've
worked
with
the
resident.
T
We've
hopefully
overcome
any
barriers
they're
experiencing
and
there
still
is
not
compliance
with
the
city,
health
and
safety
codes.
Then
it
does
go
into
the
next
and
last
step
of
enforcement,
which
is
the
summons
that
Maria
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
which
goes
into
our
municipal
court
system.
That
process
is
very
inefficient
because
it
does
have
to
be
served
in
person
even
to
out-of-state
owners,
which
we
attempt
through
certified
mailing,
which
you'll
hear
more
about,
and
it's
a
strong
failure
point
in
the
system,
and
it
only
makes
one
individual
accountable
for
anything.
T
That's
happening
at
that
property
and
it's
whoever
happens
to
answer
the
door,
the
agent
sometimes
the
owner,
it's
very
inconsistent,
so
it's
not
as
predictable
or
reliable
as
it
should
be.
So
we
started
looking
at
things.
We've
done
in
the
past
that
really
improve
this
for
us
and
found
that
the
bear
resistance
container
ordinance,
the
bear
safe
ordinance
that
was
passed
in
20
I,
think
it
was
13
or
14
had
a
civil
component
in
that
to
address
that
last
piece
of
enforcement.
That
is
a
very
efficient
process.
T
It
is
tied
to
the
property,
it's
ultimately
the
property.
That
is
collecting
the
escalation
of
repeat
or
chronic
offenses.
So,
as
the
tendency
turns
over,
it
is
still
attached
as
a
history
of
the
property.
Anything
beyond
that
is
between
the
landlord
and
the
tenants
directly
through
their
leasing
agreement
on
how
any
fines
would
be
handled
similar
to
how
utilities
handles
overdue
or
unpaid
fees
when
a
tenant
leaves.
T
It
for
you,
yes,
so
the
two
issues
that
we
identified
in
the
in
the
many
ordinances
that
we
enforce,
that
this
model
would
be
great
to
start
with,
is
our
weeds
ordinance
and
our
trash
ordinance
that
is
most
commonly
enforced
upon
or
violated,
as
you
can
imagine,
an
unkept
yard,
or
an
abandoned
property
that
is
not
getting.
The
Landscaping
mowed
down
dries
out
quite
a
bit
during
the
summer
months
and
becomes
a
fire
hazard
to
not
only
that
structure
but
surrounding
structures.
T
We
do
not
take
enforcement
on
Bee
habitats,
xeroscaping,
water
saving,
yards
or
native
natural
escaping
that
people
choose
to
do,
but
we
would
take
enforcement
on
the
type
of
yards
that
you
see
displayed
on
the
slide
unkept
yards,
especially
in
corner
Lots,
can
prevent
Vehicle
drivers
from
seeing
pedestrians
or
cyclists.
It
also
Harbors
rodents
and
debris,
collects
within
that
and
gets
trapped
and
and
causes
a
real
downgrade
of
the
sense
of
safety
and
Community
throughout.
T
The
other
one
that
we
wanted
to
focus
on
is
our
trash
ordinances.
This
applies
to
situations
where
you
have
an
accumulation
of
trash.
This
is
why
we've
specifically
drawn
out
633,
as
you
can
see,
displayed
on
the
screen.
These
are
a
few
examples
of
some
of
the
type
of
things
that
we're
talking
about
this
also
Harbors
rodents
and
downgrades,
the
health
and
safety
of
a
neighborhood
in
the
sense
that
there's
broken
glass,
there's
sometimes
chemicals
and
other
types
of
debris.
T
This,
as
you
can
see
in
the
bottom
picture,
can
obstruct
sidewalks
or
bike
lanes
and
also
becomes
a
hazard
when
we
get
our
high
Boulder
winds
and
everything
starts
blowing
around
when
you
have
large
collections
of
debris
like
this,
it
also
encourages
illegal
dumping.
So,
as
you
can
imagine,
in
August
I'm
sure
you
get
plenty
of
emails
about
the
amount
of
move-in
move
out
trash
and,
unfortunately,
when
things
get
left
on
a
corner
like
this,
it
does
become
the
responsibility
of
the
adjacent
property
owner
to
remove
that
and
pay
those
fees.
S
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
walk
you
through
a
bit
of
the
data
study.
That's
been
done
so
far.
I'd
just
like
to
give
accolades
to
Tony
Spencer
I.T
analyst
who's
not
able
to
be
here
this
evening,
who
put
all
of
this
data
together
and
has
been
leading
the
data
side
of
all
of
our
quality
of
life
projects
really
phenomenal
work
that
Tony
has
done
for
us.
The
study
that
was
completed
is
a
two-year
stagnant
period.
S
Part
of
the
data
project
going
forward
will
be
to
create
ongoing
internal
dashboard
for
these
items,
a
larger
amount
of
items,
but
certainly
including
the
ones
that
we're
discussing
tonight.
So
the
study
here
does
involve
covet
era,
time
frame,
but
what
we
have
learned
from
being
able
to
compare
that
to
other
years
is
that
we
really
see
an
influx
and
deflux
depending
on
bear
activity
in
the
numbers,
so
it
doesn't
necessarily
seem
that
coved
was
able
to
make
an
enormous
impact
to
skew
this
data
in
any
way.
S
We
really
wanted
to
use
this
as
a
visual
to
show
you
the
magnitude
of
the
problem.
While
we're
not
talking
about
snow
tonight,
most
of
us
kind
of
have
a
concept
of
how
much
snow
there
is,
and
maybe
how
many
violations
the
type
of
snow
removal
might
bring.
So
we've
included
that
here
as
a
comparison
between
trash
and
weeds
you
can
see
trash
is
about
one
and
a
half
times
more
than
snow
for
the
city.
Excuse
me
weeds
being
about
a
third
of
the
amount
of
snow.
S
Just
to
give
you
some
sort
of
concept
of
how
big
of
a
problem
is
this
as
far
as
how
weeds
and
violation
weed
violations
are
distributed
throughout
the
city.
I
wanted
to
show
you,
you
can
see
a
side-by-side
trash
and
weeds
here,
University
Hill,
certainly
over
representation
there
for
trash
violations.
S
Conversely,
over
on
the
right
side,
weeds
violations
are
spread
much
more
readily
throughout
the
community,
those
top
items
for
those
who
may
not
be
able
to
see
that
well,
South,
Boulder,
Central,
Boulder,
University,
Hill,
being
the
third
North
South
East,
and
then
the
university
and
Crossroads.
So
the
two
violations
do
look
a
little
bit
different
as
far
as
Citywide
distribution
of
where
they
occur,
just
a
visual
to
show
you,
basically
what
you
just
saw
on
the
last
slide.
S
This
is
trash
and
weeds
together
on
the
heat
map
and
you'll,
see
that
there's
actually
the
the
concentration
of
yellow
spread
in
several
different
parts
of
the
city.
It's
not
a
University
Hill.
Only
issue
that
we're
addressing
tonight,
although
again
trash
does
have,
we
do
have
more
trash
violations
occurring
in
that
neighborhood.
S
One
of
the
questions
that
has
come
up
is
this
is
rental
issue,
or
is
this
owner
occupied
and
Rental
concern
and
you'll
see
with
weeds
being
the
top
bar
graph
there
that
it's
almost
50
50,
whether
it's
rental
occupied
or
owner
occupied
trash?
We
certainly
do
see
over
representation
in
those
rental
properties
again
likely
reflected
in
the
map.
You've
already
seen
with
University
Hill
foreign
frequency
of
violations
is
quite
interesting
as
well.
S
The
first
violation
that
you
see
here
both
for
trash
and
weeds,
is
going
to
be
the
notice
of
violation
that
is
posted,
essentially
as
a
warning
and
or
notification
where
occupants
are
given
time
to
address
the
issue
without
any
sort
of
current
summons
and
potentially
future
citation.
So
they're,
given
a
time
period
to
remedy
the
problem.
Compliance
is
always
the
goal
of
the
code
enforcement
unit,
and
you
can
see
that
it
works
very,
very
well
with
weeds.
S
We
don't
see
a
lot
of
escalating
fine,
so
even
when
you
look
at
the
fine
schedule
proposed
later
I
ask
that
you
keep
that
visual
in
mind
for
weeds
that
we're
not
seeing
a
lot
of
those
city-wide
on
the
trash
side.
We
do
see
a
little
bit
more
of
those
with
the
same
properties
being
noticed
for
violation
more
than
twice,
which
would
mean
they're
more
likely
to
receive.
Actually
now
a
summons
and
Sandra
Giannis
is
going
to
walk
you
through
the
specifics
of
the
ordinance
itself.
Thank
you.
Sandra.
R
Thank
you
Amanda
and
good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
council.
My
name
is
Sandra
yanis
Deputy
City
attorney
I'm,
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
came
about
this
proposed
ordinance,
and
it
takes
us
back
to
looking
at
the
bear.
Resistant
containers
required
ordinance.
So
in
2014
city
council
took
action
to
address
a
public
safety
risk
that
also
threatened
Boulders
wildlife
and
past
Boulder.
Revised
Code
6-3-12
Bear
resistant
containers
required
to
secure
trash
from
being
accessed
by
bears
this
ordinance
included
a
civil
penalty
process
for
violations
to
be
addressed
swiftly
and
consistently.
R
The
Civil
process
used
in
this
code
section
allows
the
code
enforcement
unit
to
issue
a
civil
citation,
also
known
as
a
notice
of
agency
action,
and
impose
a
fine
for
violations.
Legally.
These
civil
site
citations
are
considered
properly
served
when
they
are
posted
at
the
property
sent
through
the
mail
or
emailed.
If
that
information
is
available,
the
Civil
citation
method
has
proven
to
Be
an
Effective
tool
for
the
safety
of
the
community
and
bears
and
in
utilizing
the
code
enforcement
unit's
time
more
efficiently.
R
Through
a
civil
hearing,
if
they
disagree
with
the
officer's
findings
in
the
citation
requesting,
a
hearing
is
easily
accessed
through
the
link
listed
on
the
citation
or
on
the
city
web
page,
which
takes
them
to
a
short
form.
The
bear
trash
code
also
has
a
fine
escalation
schedule,
a
hundred
dollars
for
a
first
offense
250
for
a
second
and
500
for
a
third
each
August.
The
fine
escalation
is
reset
for
all
properties.
R
The
proposed
ordinance
for
weeds
and
trash
mirrors
the
bear
trash
code
AS
and
is
intended
to
bring
the
same
efficiencies
and
compliance
improvements.
In
addition,
weeds
and
trash
violations
will
follow
the
same,
consistent
protocol
in
place
for
several
years
with
bare
trash
violations
by
resetting
the
fines
in
August.
The
proposal
to
add
the
Civil
process
to
weeds
and
trash
is
not
intended
to
replace
the
warnings
given
nor
the
attempt
to
educate
and
gain
voluntary
compliance.
Rather,
it
will
allow
the
code
enforcement
unit
to
utilize
the
less
cumbersome
civil
citation
process
when
violations
are
not
corrected.
R
So,
let's
talk
about
what
we
currently
have
in
place.
Currently
weeds
and
trash
violations
receive
a
warning
which
is
also
known
as
a
notice
of
violation
and
a
time
frame
in
which
the
remnant
in
which
to
remedy
the
violation,
if
the
violation
is
not
remedied,
the
Violator
is
personally
served
with
a
Criminal
summons
to
appear
in
court.
A
municipal
court
criminal
summons,
is
subject
to
a
maximum
fine
of
2,
650
and
or
90
days
jail.
R
When
the
person
appears
in
court,
they
can
either
plead
guilty
and
pay
a
fine
or
set
the
matter
for
trial.
The
fine
amount
is
up
to
the
judge's
discretion,
but
typically
is
a
hundred
dollars
for
a
first
offense
criminal
summons
must
be
personally
served
and
signed
in
order
to
be
considered
valid
legal
service
and
requires
a
court
appearance.
Currently,
if
no
one
is
home,
the
code
enforcement
officer
has
to
come
back
sometimes
several
times
on
various
days
and
times
to
attempt
to
serve
the
summons.
R
This
results
in
inefficiencies
and
a
significant
amount
of
resources
spent
on
one
property
due
to
multiple
visits,
the
same
location
while
criminal
summons
may
also
be
mailed
to
the
owner,
especially
in
cases
of
out-of-state
owners.
These
mailings
must
be
sent
certified
mail
return,
receipt
with
restricted
delivery
to
obtain
the
signature
of
the
Party
named
on
the
summons.
If
the
certified
mailing
is
signed
by
the
party,
and
if
the
officer
receives
the
signature
card
back
from
the
post
office
prior
to
the
court
date,
then
the
summons
will
be
accepted
by
the
court
to
proceed.
R
R
The
sooner
a
corrective
action
is
taken
in
relation
to
the
occurrence
of
a
violation.
The
more
effective
the
correction
of
the
of
the
behavior
can
be
the
delayed
time
frame
between
when
a
violation
occurs
and
when
a
criminal
summons
is
issued
can
diminish
the
desired
outcome
of
compliance
next
slide.
Please.
R
So,
let's
talk
about
what
we're
proposing
here
tonight,
ordinance
8557
is
being
presented
to
council
for
two
primary
changes
in
process
for
the
code
enforcement
unit.
The
first
is
the
addition
of
a
civil
citation
process
for
weeds
and
trash
violations,
and,
secondly,
it's
the
establishment
of
a
set
fine
escalation
schedule
to
accommodate
the
Civil
process.
R
Proposed
ordinance
8557
provides
an
additional
method
of
enforcement
for
trash
and
weeds
violations.
That
is
civil
rather
than
criminal
in
nature.
Violators
will
still
receive
a
warning
posted
on
the
property
and
emailed
to
the
owner
or
agent
and
a
time
frame
within
which
to
remedy
the
violation.
The
warning
notice
contains
the
issuing
officers
contact
information.
Should
there
be
any
questions
on
the
action
required.
R
R
The
citation
would
be
posted
on
the
property
to
provide
notice
to
the
tenant
and
also
emailed
to
the
property
owner
and
agent.
The
property
owner
agent
is
responsible
for
the
citation
would
not
have
to
appear
in
court,
but
would
resolve
the
matter
by
correcting
the
violation
and
paying
the
fine
as
appropriate.
R
R
The
proposed
change
to
a
civil
citation
process
is
needed
because
identifying
repeat
offenders
under
the
current
system
has
been
problematic,
particularly
with
houses
containing
multiple
units
and
summonses
being
personally
served
to
different
tenants,
rather
than
one
owner
or
landlord.
This
fine
escalation
schedule
will
allow
the
code
enforcement
unit
staff
to
improve
the
effectiveness
of
enforcement
when
a
citation
becomes
necessary,
improving
the
overall
condition
of
neighborhoods.
R
The
proposed
escalation
of
fines
for
repeated
offenses
can
also
correct
behaviors
that
are
causing
the
violation,
but
currently
repetitive,
criminal
summons,
must
be
served
to
the
same
person
even
within
a
single
household.
For
this
fine
escalation
to
occur.
Many
of
the
properties
that
are
cited
have
multiple
tenants.
This
scenario
creates
challenges
to
holding
repeat
offenders,
accountable
delays,
the
incident
to
consequence
time
frame
and
may
not
result
in
the
desired
Behavior,
which
further
frustrates
neighbors
and
adds
to
the
negative
cultural
and
aesthetic
aspects
of
neighbors.
Excuse
me
neighborhoods
next
slide.
R
This
allows
new
residents
at
a
property
to
start
with
a
clean
slate
and
builds
a
sense
of
understanding
and
trust
with
the
landlords
and
property
managers
that
are
integrating
new
residents
to
the
rules
in
their
leases
and
the
city's
ordinances.
The
intent
of
the
resetting
policy
is
to
avoid
penalizing
new
tenants
with
escalated
fines
for
the
acts
of
previous
tenants.
R
This
level
of
community
engagement
and
cooperation
is
supported
by
all
levels
of
City
staff
and
has
been
vital
to
the
successful
application
of
the
citation
process
since
the
beginning.
This
has
worked
well
with
the
current
bear
trash
code,
and
if
this
ordinance
is
adopted
will
be
implemented
with
weeds
and
trash
violations
as
well,
the
resetting
procedure
will
be
memorialized
in
an
internal
policy
document,
known
as
general
order
242
governing
the
code
enforcement
unit.
R
Secondly,
providing
notices
of
violation,
also
known
as
warnings,
are
a
current
code
enforcement
standard
practice.
The
specified
correction
period
varies
depending
on
the
factual
circumstances
of
the
violation
and
is
determined
by
code
enforcement
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
This
procedure
will
also
be
included
in
general
order.
242..
R
Also.
The
addition
of
the
email
notification
should
improve
the
owner's
and
property
managers
with
the
ability
to
respond
in
a
timely
manner
and
notices
are
still
posted
on
the
door
for
tenants.
Emailing
of
both
a
warning
and
a
civil
citation
of
administrative
action
began
on
February
1st
of
this
year.
This
is
being
manually
emailed
by
the
issuing
officer
independent
of
the
current
capability
of
the
records
management
system
code
enforcement
is
committed
to
continually
improving
its
service
to
the
community
and
agree
that
emailed
notices
are
in
line
with
this
commitment.
R
Lastly,
the
rental
licensing
database
is
a
vital
record
for
communicating
with
property
owners
and
agents,
keeping
the
license
and
County
Property
Data
up
to
date,
as
changes
occur,
is
crucial
to
timely
notification
and
a
proper
property
owner's
responsibility.
The
city
has
made
this
process
easily
accessible.
R
The
code
enforcement
unit
consists
of
four
officers:
a
working
supervisor
and
a
part-time
Administrative
Assistant
shared
with
animal
protection.
This
team
enforces
exterior
nuisance
violations
across
the
city
due
to
the
due
to
these
finite
resources
and
community
members
request
for
more
active
patrols
and
enforcement.
The
team
has
looked
to
process
Improvement
strategies
to
obtain
greater
efficiencies
simultaneously.
R
Trashing
weeds
and
the
corresponding
need
for
proactive
enforcement
has
been
identified
by
the
hill
revitalization
working
group
as
both
an
issue
and
a
viable
solution
to
improve
Aesthetics
health
and
safety
and
build
toward
a
more
positive
neighborhood
culture
on
the
University
Hill
Neighborhood.
These
issues
also
impact
other
neighborhoods,
such
as
Martin
acres
and
Goss
Grove.
The
proposed
ordinance
applies
Citywide.
R
Why
is
enforcement
of
weeds
and
trash
important,
the
Boulder
police
code
enforcement
unit,
actively
patrols
for
in
responds
to
complaints
of
unsecured
and
accumulated
trash
throughout
the
city?
The
effective
storage
and
control
of
trash
directly
impacts,
the
health
and
safety
of
the
community,
as
mentioned
earlier
trash
is
a
wildlife
attractant
to
animals
such
as
Bears,
raccoons,
skunks
and
rats
containing
trash
reduces
human
and
Wildlife
conflicts.
Accumulation
of
trash
creates
a
nuisance
to
the
community
and
degrades
the
safety
and
sense
of
security
of
residents.
R
U
Hello
and
nice
to
see
you
in
person,
Council
I,
know
I,
get
to
see
you
a
lot
on
screen.
So
it's
nice
to
stand
here
before
you
tonight.
So
we
did
do
some
targeted
conversations
with
folks
around
this
issue,
as
well
as
a
be
heard,
Boulder
page
that
you
should
have
received
each
and
every
response
to
in
the
memo
and
by
hotline
yesterday
and
I.
U
Just
want
to
reiterate
that,
while
this
was
a
priority
issue
identified
by
the
hill,
revitalization
working
group,
the
actual
work
around
what
type
of
tool
might
help
in
this
situation
was
decided
and
crafted
by
staff.
We
did
take
as
one
of
our
first
conversations
this
ordinance
draft
to
the
hill
revitalization
working
group
out
of
respect
for
their
deep
engagement
on
many
quality
of
life
issues
and
the
various
perspectives
that
sit
around
that
table.
U
That
can
give
us
a
lot
of
different
types
of
input
in
one
meeting
and
they
asked
a
lot
of
helpful
and
insightful
questions
that
we've
included
in
attachment
F
to
the
agenda
memorandum.
Most
of
the
group
expressed
support
for
these
changes
with
concerns
expressed
by
the
boulder
Area
Rental
Housing
Association
and
CU
Student
Government.
U
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
to
get
those
voices
in
the
room
too,
and
then
the
be
her
Boulder
page
was
open
for
everyone
in
the
community.
We
received
63
responses
from
about
26
different
neighborhoods
by
my
account.
I
may
have
missed
a
few
and
I'm
going
through
there,
but
so
certainly
this
was
an
issue
of
Interest
across
the
city,
as
should
be
since
it
will
be
enforced.
U
That
way,
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
some
of
the
support
that
we
heard
for
positive
impacts
on
neighborhoods,
such
as
saving
officers,
time
people
recognize
the
value
of
that
cleaner
spaces
overall
help
with
the
overflowing
dumpsters
that
people
experience,
increased,
landlord
accountability,
reduction
of
noxious
weeds
and
an
overall
Improvement
of
health
and
safety.
We
also
heard
a
number
of
concerns
on
be
herp
Boulder
that
I
wanted
to
highlight
overreach
of
law
enforcement.
We
know
that
that's
always
a
concern
when
we
start
to
look
at
our
ordinances
and
how
we
enforce
them.
U
There
was
also
a
mirror
concern
of
a
potential
lack
of
follow-through
on
enforcement,
so
folks
are
worried
about
both
sides
of
that
there
are
folks
that
are
concerned
that
reducing
the
consequence
will
actually
lead
to
more
violations
instead
of
less
I
apologize
for
the
typo.
That
should
be
more
violations
and
we've
heard
about
a
lack,
a
concern
about
the
lack
of
opportunity
to
dispute
the
charges.
Currently,
when
you
get
to
go
to
court,
you
get
to
stand
up
and
tell
your
story:
that's
not
something
that
happens
with
a
citation
process.
U
Although,
as
was
mentioned,
there
will
be
information
on
that
citation,
allowing
folks
to
call
the
courts
and
request
that
type
of
hearing
there's
a
concern
for
an
unfair
targeting
of
students
and
on
top
of
that
potential
for
creating
negative
relationships
between
the
students
and
the
City
and
there's
a
fear
of
a
concern
about
increased
cost
of
living
for
renters,
due
to
the
fines
being
passed
on
from
the
property
owners
and
landlords
to
the
renters.
U
We
do
and
have
have
tried
to
make
public
and
available
to
folks
expressing
those
concerns
that
we
have
our
community
mediation
Department.
That
does
a
lot
of
work
on
disputes
between
landlords
and
tenants,
and
it's
always
ready
to
help
folks
have
those
conversations
if
tenants
feel
like
they're
being
treated
unfairly
under
the
agreement
that
they've
made
with
their
landlords.
I
did
want
to
highlight
that
conversation
with
Community,
connectors
and
residents.
U
So
that
was
helpful
information
for
that
group
who
did
raise
that
concern,
and
so
they
did
not
feel
like.
There
was
too
much
concern
around
that,
given
that
that
information
would
be
easily
available.
Instead,
we
focused
on
some
other
topics.
In
that
conversation
they
too
were
concerned
that
violations
would
go
up
with
the
reduction
of
consequence
going
from
Criminal
to
civil,
so
we
talked
a
bit
about
around
that.
They
also
really
encouraged
holding
property
owners
responsible.
E
It
says:
proposed
ordinance.
8557
provides
an
additional
method
of
enforcement
for
trash
and
weeds
violations,
additional
method,
meaning
you're
not
completely
taking
away
the
criminal.
So
do
you
mind
just
explaining
to
me
one
more
time
in
case
I
missed
it
at
what
point
it
goes
from
civil
to
criminal
at
one
point
in
the
repeat,
offender
world.
R
I'm
happy
to
answer
your
question
cancer.
So
it's
really
up
to
the
officer
to
decide
whether
to
use
the
Civil
process
of
the
criminal
process.
I
think
that
the
officer
has
discretion
and
would
more
than
likely
use
the
criminal
citation
method
for
more
egregious
circumstance.
But
I
will
let
officer
Riley
speak
to
that.
T
So
she
is
correct:
summons
would
be
used
if
we
had
something
that
was
very
egregious
or
impacted,
Public
Safety
in
a
extreme
manner
or
for
a
property
that
had
received
multiple
citations
and
had
proven
that
that
method
was
not
effective
to
correct
Behavior.
Then
it
would
go
back
into
the
summons
into
a
municipal
court
with
a
judge,
appearance.
D
B
I'll
call
them
myself
and
then
go
to
Matt.
So
what
about
a
situation?
B
So
let's
say
that
the
a
tenant
at
a
property
sees
the
the
notice
posted,
looks
at
and
says:
oh
well,
that's
an
error
because
of
whatever
factor
or
let's
say
they
they
see,
and
they
say
oh
gosh.
This
is
second
offense
250
bucks,
that's
a
real
hardship
for
me
and
so
I
I
don't
want
to
pay
this
right
now
out
of
a
potential
hardship,
but
the
citation
has
gone
to
the
property
owner
separately.
So
how
would
the
tenant
in
this
situation
kind
of
work
with
the
property
owner
or
with
the
city
to
either?
T
T
They
can
contact
the
officer
because
their
number
and
their
email
address
is
on
the
notice
that
was
left
and
also
the
one
that
was
mailed
and
emailed.
So
any
of
those
three
parties
could
could
intervene
during
the
correction
period
to
say:
hey,
I,
don't
agree
with
this,
and
if
a
citation
had
been
issued,
both
the
owner,
agent
and
tenant
can
file
an
appeal
with
the
court
to
stop
that
fine
and
say
no
I
want
a
chance
to
say:
I
have
a
hardship.
B
Great
that's
great
to
understand
what,
if
the
the
property
owner
paid
the
fine
while
that
was
still
being
worked
through.
Yes,.
T
Yes,
so
we
have
that
happen
occasionally
we
will
have
one
that
pays
it
right
away
and-
and
it
does
stay
very
clearly
on
the
citation,
if
you
are
going
to
appeal,
do
not
pay
the
fine
we'll
let
the
judge
decide
if
they're
going
to
reduce
it
or
do
payment
plans
or
something,
but
sometimes
that
crossover
happens.
When
you
get
a
bill,
you
pay
it
type
thing
and
we
can
actually
refund
that
payment
and
or
stop
payment
if
it,
depending
on
the
mechanism
that
they
use
to
pay
that
fine.
T
So
if
a
landlord
paid
a
hundred
dollar
citation
the
tenant
appealed
it
to
the
court
and
we
received
documentation
from
the
court,
the
disposition
of
it.
Let's
say
it
was
dismissed
or
reduced.
That
fine
would
be
fully
refunded
and
then
reissued
in
the
proper
amount
or
dismissed
entirely,
and
then
it
would
be
handled
that
way.
Great.
B
P
You
do
and
I
think
that
that
is
part
of
the
continued
work
this
team
is
going
to
do.
We
also
added
an
FTE
and
pnds
to
continue
to
help
us
think
about
code
enforcement
generally
in
compliance
as
we
also
partner
with
PD
about
the
issue,
but
we
really
will
continue
to
be
thinking
about
what
are
those
timely,
targeted
efforts,
particularly
around
move
in
and
move
out.
A
P
Also
thinking
as
part
of
the
work
group
that
was
not
part
of
the
budget
about
potential
incentives
I
when
I
take
my
city
manager,
hat
off
and
put
my
former
regulatory
hat
on
I'll
say
that
some
of
the
things
such
as
whether
or
not
we
can
provide
discounts
with
local
hardware
stores
for
cleaning
supplies
that
could
incentivize
property
managers
to
join
us
when
those
move-in
move
out
dates.
Are
there
or
things
like
that
or
things
that
we're
thinking
as
well?
So
we
will
continue
to
bring
package
of
Reform
as
they
are
set
great.
G
For
Sandra
and
it
kind
of
has
to
do
with
with
I
think
in
the
current
criminal,
proceeding
that
this
goes
under
I
believe
that
there's
an
opportunity
for
at
least
CU
students
to
plea
with
the
judge
or
the
court
to
sidestep
the
fine
and
go
through
the
cu's
restorative
justice
program
is
that
is
that
correct.
G
Has
was
that
thought
of?
Did
we
think
about
carrying
that
off-ramp
off
for
students
with
regards
to
our
Evolution
to
a
civil
penalty
system?
Did
we
want
to
do?
Was
there
any
consideration
of
bringing
that
option
forward
as
well.
R
G
The
money
can
I
off,
can
I
ask
and
then
request
to
move
through
Caesar
sort
of
justice
system
as
a
way
of
bypass
and
hopefully
get
some
sort
of
societal
and
Correctional
Behavior
out
of
it
so
anyway,
but
thanks
for
answering
that
question,
the
other
question
I
have
to
have
has
to
do
with
sort
of
with
regards
to
annual
reset
saying
that
it
was
memorialized
sort
of
internally
is.
Is
it?
G
Is
there
any
issue
with
making
that
more
forward
and
more
upfront
and
in
a
forward
environment
like
on
our
website
and
stuff,
so
that
people
have
know
that
that's
there
and
know
that
it's
reset
versus
you
know
new
tenants,
not
knowing
that
it
was
or
wasn't,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
buried,
so
people
don't
quite
know
what's
available
to
them
or
what
their
rights
are.
Yeah.
R
Thank
you
for
the
question.
You
know
there
are
definitely
lots
of
different
areas
in
which
we
could
share
that
information
you
know
see.
Do
CU
also
does
an
incredible
job
in
educating
students
in
terms
of
what
their
obligations
are
to
be
good
neighbors
and
they
have
a
landlord
tenant,
toolkit
online
and
all
kinds
of
resources
available.
P
I'll,
just
add
to
that
that
has
been
another
topic
we've
been
thinking
about
and
so
confirming
what
Sandra
is
saying
that
we've
been
thinking
about
how
to
do
that
in
a
in
a
way
that
is
more
user-friendly.
Sometimes
we
talk
a
lot
in
coach
speak
and
how
do
we
make
our
website
more
accessible,
more
visual,
more
easy
to
understand
and
I
think
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
this
improvement
process
will
yield
as
well,
so
that
is
coming
thanks.
G
Henry
I
mean
it
maybe
comes
together
with
a
larger
sort
of
tenant
rights,
kind
of
information
package.
I
know
that
has
its
own
connotations
and
context
attachment,
but
but
sort
of
something
in
that
ilk
would
be
sort
of
helpful
for
everyone
as
a
One-Stop
shop
for
everything
that
you
need
to
know.
So,
thank
you
for.
R
That
there's
one
more
thing
I'd
like
to
add,
if
you
don't
mind-
and
that
is
that
there
is
a
requirement
for
landlords
to
provide
a
disclosure
statement
and
in
that
they
are
required
to
provide
information
to
tenants
that
they're
signing
a
lease
with
related
to
the
ordinances
that
are
commonly
issues
for
tenants
and
so
there's
another
opportunity
for
that.
Education
as
well.
That's
actually
required
by
law.
U
V
Thank
you,
Aaron.
Let's
see
So
currently
how
many
citations
or
incidents
happen
before
there
is
a
court
summons.
It
sounded
like
that.
Didn't
typically
happen
on
the
first
incident,
so.
T
V
T
Okay,
so
that
varies,
the
officer
has
discretion
built
in
for
a
reason.
Some
are
tremendously
egregious
violations
that
are
Public
Safety,
so
you
could
receive
a
summons
immediately
for
those
type
of
situations.
However,
our
whole
goal
as
a
unit
is
to
educate
and
gain
compliance
on
an
ongoing
basis,
so
we
do
try
and
help
all
residents
understand
why
the
ordinance
is
in
place,
how
that
protects
them
personally,
as
well
as
the
community
at
large.
T
So
we
do
that
first
and
we
do
issue
notice
of
violation
with
a
period
correct
when
an
officer
walks
up
to
a
property.
They
have
no
idea
who
lives
there
or
what
they're
particular
circumstances
are
until
they
knock
on
the
door,
and
they
start
that
conversation.
So
in
the
case
of
let's
say,
an
elderly
Widow
that
was
living
alone.
T
That
was
having
trouble
keeping
up
on
the
property,
we're
going
to
issue
a
notice
of
violation,
we're
going
to
work
with
extensions
in
the
Boulder
County
cultivate
program
to
try
and
get
her
connected
with
the
resources
that
she
would
need
if
she
were
to
reviolate
because
those
resources
fell
through,
we
wouldn't
just
go
well.
You
already
got
a
warning,
so
now
you
get
a
ticket,
so
it
has
to
be
dynamic
because
there's
so
many
different
situations
that
the
code
officers
come
in
contact
with.
V
Thank
you,
I
think
I
read
somewhere
that
the
ticketing.
T
T
D
D
T
P
Well,
I,
just
if
helpful
I
wanted
to
give
sort
of
some
context
to
what
we're
seeing
and
to
clarify,
because
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
current
maximum,
fine
and
or
up
to
90
days
is
an
existing
code.
That
is
that
is
not
a
new
thing
and
then
we
got.
We
did
get
some
information
from
the
municipal
court
on
some
of
the
appeals.
P
Now
this
is
not
the
universe
of
fines
that
have
been
issued
right,
but
in
a
three-year
period,
from
the
first
of
January
of
2020
to
February
of
2023,
I'll
say
that
there
were
28
appeals
for
trash
overall
and
13
of
those
were
dismissed
or
no
action
were
taken
or
their
pending
dismissal.
14
of
those
were
in
fact
allotted
fines.
Seven
of
those
13
were
50.
Fines
four
were
between
a
hundred
and
hundred
thirty
dollars,
two
were
between
150
and
165,
and
only
one
was
five
hundred
dollars
as
we.
V
You
I
was
also
wondering
what
the
current
finds
for
snow
removal
are,
and
first
second
third
offenses.
T
So
snow
removal
is
not
subject
to
the
summons
process.
That's
handled
by
a
civil
abatement
process,
because
snow
is
an
immediate
threat
to
life
and
safety
for
Falls.
We
actually
we
under
the
ordinance
you
get
one
notice
personal
season.
The
ordinance
dictates
the
season
to
be
October
1st
to
May
31st
after
receiving
that
one
24-hour
notice.
Should
you
be
in
violation
again
during
that
season?
We
send
a
contractor
which
is
hired
by
open
bid
process
and
the
fine
are
fees
that
we
are
charged
for.
T
Depends
on
the
time
of
year,
as
you
can
imagine
a
spring,
a
spring
snow
is
much
easier
to
remove
than
a
hard
Frozen
sidewalk.
On
the
North
side.
That's
been
traversed
multiple
times
by
pedestrians
and
now
is
Rock
ice.
Those
are
a
lot
higher
than
than
the
other
ones,
but
I
would
say
minimum
to
show
up
it's
about
185
dollars
for
a
basic
abatement,
and
we've
had
some
that
go
as
high
as
four
thousand.
T
V
You
I
know
that
we
all
Beyond
sort
of
our
weed
ordinance.
We
also
have
site
triangle
requirements
and
visibility
around
driveways
and
streets.
Do
those
have
fun
like
I
know
of
them
through
my
work
and
making
sure
that
there
is
a
that
we're
not
intentionally
planting
things
of
the
wrong
height
in
those
areas?
But
if
someone
were
to
to
plant
something
what
mechanism
typically
comes
into
play
for
how
that
situation
is
rectified,
so.
T
I'm
going
to
pull
one
of
those
items
out
because
it's
not
handled
by
my
unit,
so
I
don't
want
to
misspeak
as
to
how
they
handle
it
and
that's
the
site
triangle.
That's
actually
handled
by
right-of-way
inspectors
in
the
planning
public
works
department.
So
they
handle
that
one
portion
of
that,
the
other
ones
that
you
speak
of.
We
do
handle
that's
overhanging,
trees
and
shrubs
and
obstructing
a
sidewalk.
T
So
that
is
also
handled
under
a
civil
abatement
process,
where
it's
an
immediate
threat
to
Public
Safety,
and
we
always
issue
a
notice
with
a
time
period
to
correct
for
overhanging.
Even
if
we
told
you
last
spring
that
you
have
to
cut
the
Hedge
and
this
spring,
you
haven't
cut
the
head.
Yet
we're
still
going
to
give
you
that
opportunity
to
correct
it,
and
if
it's
not
corrected,
we
hire
the
same
contractor
and
in
the
same
process
as
no,
they
will
come
and
cut
the
hedge
or
the
tree
or
whatever's
overhanging.
T
We
do
try
and
work
really,
specifically
with
owners
or
tenants
about
that
to
give
them
enough
time,
because
some
Hedges
are
tremendously
big.
Some
trees
are
very
sensitive
and
need
to
be
cut
at
the
proper
time,
so
we
do
try
and
work
within
reason,
still
keeping
the
public
safety
and
the
need
to
keep
those
public
walks
open,
but
it
is
subject
to
the
Civil
abatement
process
to
remove
the
hazard,
because
it's
encroaching
on
the
public
area.
T
V
V
Would
they
be
ticketed
with
the
second
offense
like
because
they're
both
from
the
same
property?
Would
they
have
the
increased
fine.
T
So
I'm
gonna
make
sure
I
understand
your
question
correctly
by
rephrasing
it
back
so
you're
saying
we
have
a
property
that,
let's
say,
has
four
tenants
in
it,
and
the
first
tenant
got
sided
with
first
citation
and
then
the
next
time
it's
the
other
tenant.
Would
that
escalation
apply?
Is
that
correct?
T
Yes,
okay,
so
the
citation
goes
to
the
property,
not
the
tenant,
so
it
is
attached
to
the
property
so
depending
on
how
that
landlord
has
that
leash
written
it's
going
to
be
a
hundred
dollars
for
the
first
fine,
let's
say
it's
accumulation
of
trash
and
when
we
go
again
and
they
have
the
same
issue
and
they
have
not
corrected
and
we
end
up
with
a
second
citation,
it's
going
to
go
to
the
property,
and
so
that
gets
mailed
and
emailed
to
the
property
owner.
T
There
is
notification
left
at
the
property
that
a
notice
of
agency
action
has
been
issued
to
this
property.
This
is
how
we
handle
bear
trash
currently,
and
we
want
to
model
that,
because
it's
been
very
successful.
The
tenant
is
aware
that
we're
issuing
a
citation
the
citation
is
issued
to
the
property
owner
by
Rec
tax
record,
and
that
is
handled
as
far
as
who
pays
or
how
that
gets
paid
between
the
leasing
agreement
that
that
owner
has
with
that
tenant
or
the
seven
six
five.
Four
three
tenants
under
our
current
summons
process.
T
If
I
cite
the
first
tenant,
they
personally
are
liable
for
the
violation
and
go
to
court.
If
I
cite
the
other
tenant
the
next
time,
they're
personally
liable
for
that
violation
and
go
to
court
have
depending
on
their
history
with
court,
if
they
it's
their
first
citation
or
summons
I
apologize,
then
it
would
be
a
first
violation
for
John
as
well
as
Sally
and
that's
part
of
the
problem,
with
accountability
and
escalation
under
the
current
system
and
the
other
two
tenants
then
get
cited
at
all.
V
W
Thanks
so
much
for
the
presentation
and
thanks
everybody
for
bearing
with
us
on
our
questions,
I
have
a
few
as
well.
So
what
my
first
question
is
that
this
ordinance
is
going
to
go
into
effect
as
the
same
time
as
we're
starting
this
email
notification
system
change
and
we've
allocated
I
think
it
was
an
additional
sixty
thousand
dollars
into
additional
trash
pickup
at
the
end
of
the
semesters.
So
if
something
changes,
how
do
we
know
what
it
is
that
created
the
change?
P
P
The
monies
we
have
allocated
to
really
at
least
about
additional
trash
containers
have
really
focused
on
move
in
move
out,
but
trash
frankly
accumulates
all
throughout
the
year,
so
we
will
be
looking
at
differences
there
and
then
actually,
tracking
and
again,
the
data
project
will
help
us
do
that
tracking
properties
and
seeing
if
we
see
behaviors
I'd
like
to
think
that
the
whole
package
of
what
we're
trying
to
do
both
increasing
awareness
increase
opportunities
for
people
to
know.
What's
there
the
improvements
on
a
website,
this
particular
ordinance
change.
P
T
I
would
say,
as
far
as
my
piece
in
this
for
this
particular
ordinance,
we
would
be
able
to
track
previous
Trends
in
repeat
violations,
communication
with
tenants
and
really
have
they
corrected
being
a
chronic
issue
or
not.
Has
the
engagement
with
the
emails
improve
the
the
notification
process
for
the
landlord,
so
they
feel
more
responsive?
We
can
track
that
as
far
as
how
the
cases
are
trending
and
if
we're
seeing
a
different
Trend
within
that
system.
W
T
W
O
T
If
they're
at
school,
taking
a
test
or
a
class
or
if
they're
on
vacation
in
Europe,
sometimes
people
don't
answer
the
door
they're
at
work
sure
so
we
we
don't
want
to
keep
repeat
going
back
and
going
back.
So
we
do
leave
a
notice.
Our
notices
are
designed
to
be
very
educational,
so
it
does
not
only
list
the
no
the
violation
that
we're
citing
there,
but
it
has
a
variety
of
other
violations,
so
they
can
be
like
oh
I,
didn't
even
know.
T
That
was
an
issue,
so
I'm
glad
I
didn't
get
that
one
and
then
the
mailed
version
that
follows
that
up
to
the
landlord
and
tenant
actually
has
the
verbatim
ordinance
language
correction
period,
contact
information.
All
of
that
as
well.
W
Yeah
I
think
I
heard
you.
It
was
in
response
to
one
of
the
other
questions
just
talking
about
how
you
know.
Having
that
in-person
contact.
X
Y
W
Person
and
so
I
guess
I'm,
just
wondering
you
know
how
do
you
kind
of
find
out
what
those
what
what
the
things
are,
that
people
are
telling
you
so
it
sounds
like
you're
you're,
a
resource
a
lot
of
times
for
folks
that
may
not
have
even
known
right
or
having
issues
getting
to
getting
to
their
weeds
or
getting
to
right.
W
T
Right
so
the
conversation
around
the
summons
is
for
service
only.
We
are
way
past
the
point
of
having
a
conversation
for
correction
or
resources.
So
the
slide
that
I
asked
to
be
put
up
is
actually
our
code
enforcement
flow.
So
what
happens
when
we
get
a
complaint?
So
if
you
see
at
the
top,
where
it
says
complaint,
and
then
you
see
that
highlighted
piece
that
says
citation
summons
all,
that
process
happens
before
that,
unless
it's
an
egregious
or
chronic
violation,
which
means
we've
done
this
process
during
the
first
interaction
at
that
property.
T
So
we
are
still
knocking
on
the
door,
issuing
a
notice
violation
period
to
correct
trying
to
identify
resources
that
are
needed,
giving
them
an
opportunity.
Should
they
not
be
there
and
we
post
that
they
can
call
us
back
email
us
back,
get
online
to
inquirebolder
and
contact
us
there
or
call
our
Dispatch,
Center
or
or
our
office
hotline.
If
you
will
to
let
us
know
what
that
issue
is
so
that
we
can
get
them
connected,
or
sometimes
it's
as
easy
as
I've
hired
a
tree
company.
T
He
can't
be
here
until
two
weeks
and
I
only
have
a
week.
Can
you
please
extend
it
absolutely
every
time
we
definitely
want
to
work
with
people,
so
the
summons
conversation
is
saying
you're
in
violation
of
this
please
sign
here.
This
is
intermission
of
guilt.
This
is
a
promise
to
appear
the
court
date
listed
above,
and
this
is
your
opportunity
to
have
due
process
because
we're
at
the
end
of
the
process.
So
a
lot
of
that
identifying
and
education
and
contact
has
already
happened
yep.
So
it's
happening
earlier.
T
W
T
Yeah,
so
when
you
have
an
accumulation
of
trash
currently
under
our
system,
we
would
give
a
notice
it's
not
corrected.
We
would
see
the
violation
continue.
We
would
try
and
write
a
summons,
which
we've
explained
how
difficult
that
can
be
and
if
no
one
ever
answers
the
door
or
Returns
the
mail.
We're
stonewalled
we're
eventually
the
trash
guy
comes
and
takes
it
right
and
during
certain
time
periods.
That's
why
we
have
six
day
review,
which
is
listed
in
the
one
that
would
be
eligible
for
citation.
T
So
if
someone
has
an
overflowing
dumpster
for
more
than
a
day,
because
the
trash
is
supposed
to
be
coming
the
next
day
that
would
be
identified
as
not
being
signed
up
for
your
your
six
day.
Trash
collection,
as
required
during
those
specified
time
frames,
and
we
would
be
able
to
cite
the
owner
for
that
not
signing
up
for
that
service
and
accepting
those
trash
charges
and
if
they
still
didn't,
then
they
would
have
an
escalated
fine
of
a
second
and
then
a
third.
T
So
the
whole
point
is
to
have
the
consequence
match
the
behavior
that's
happening
at
the
time.
Instead
of
this
service
delay,
and
then
hopefully
the
landlord
goes
well,
it's
a
lot
more
worth
my
time
to
pay
the
trash
fee
for
the
pickups
instead
of
the
100
250
and
then
500.
W
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
it
sounded
like
with
the
current
court
process.
Often
people
aren't
getting
fined
more
than
50
or
100
I
mean
for
the
most
part.
So
my
question
is
just
Why
why
the
fines
escalate
and
so
why?
Why
are
they
kind
of
getting
higher
every
time
when
kind
of
the
maximum
that
we're
currently
charging
people
is,
is
lower.
T
So
part
of
the
problem
is
the
example
that
I
gave
with
the
tenant,
where
we
cited
John
the
first
time
and
sadly
the
next
time.
T
That's
the
first
and
then
first
and
those
are
probably
some
of
the
dismissals
that
went
into
the
CU
student
route
instead
of
paying
the
fine
which
has
proven
as
a
successful
process,
and
we
would
like
to
bring
over
into
our
civil
hearings
and
can
have
conversations
with
the
court
about
that
because
they
like
that
system
as
well
so
I
think
part
of
it
is
let
the
difficulty
of
the
escalation
being
accountable
to
the
to
the
person
instead
of
the
property.
So
that
accounts
for
some
of
it.
T
And
there
is
an
escalation
in
ordinance,
depending
on
which
one
we're
citing,
for
example,
635,
has
an
escalation,
but
we
aren't
bringing
every
ordinance
to
you
at
once.
We
want
to
bring
the
most
egregious
and
the
most
impactful
to
Public
Safety,
for
this
change
like
we
did
with
bears
refine
the
process,
make
sure
we're
getting
the
results
that
we
want
and
and
proving
the
success
of
it
to
add
it
to
635
at
a
later
date
and
and
expand
that
ability
to
improve
the
service
overall.
P
I'll
just
add
two
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
gonna
jump
in,
but
I'll
add
and
maybe
Amanda
you
have
that
slide
about
the
frequency.
That
we'll
know
too,
that
we've
been
fortunate,
that
most
property
managers
are
responsible.
I
want
to
really
lift
that
up
that
there's
a
lot
of
great
landlords
out
there
doing
the
great
job
there
are
with
trash
violations,
a
third
that
require
repeat
instances,
and
it
is
in
those
instances
where
you
will
still
have
notice
a
first
fine
and
a
second
fine.
W
Thank
you
and
then
the
last
question:
how
are
dried
out
weeds,
different
from
like
a
dried
out,
Bush
or
a
dried
out
native
grass,
or
something
like
that
when
it
comes
to
fire
hazards.
A
B
So
if
we
could
go
to
the
public
hearing,
if
we're
done
with
questions,
we
have
five
speakers,
two
in
person,
three
virtual,
so
each
one
will
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
I
think
we've
already
heard
our
guidelines
for
public
participation,
so
our
first
two
speakers
are
Chase
Cromwell
and
Quentin
fellows.
Z
Good
evening,
Council
I'm
Chase
Cromwell
that
you
all
know
me
I
work
with
see
you
soon.
Government
I'm
here
tonight,
hoping
you'll,
reject
these
changes
and
ask
all
the
stakeholders
involved
to
work
for
a
larger,
more
suitable
solution.
These
changes
that
presented
been
presented
at
times
is
the
way
to
solve
long-term
nuisance
properties
and
create
more
property
owner
responsibility.
From
our
perspective,
that
simply
is
not
the
case.
Z
If
we
want
to
address
residents
who
are
creating
safety,
health
or
other
concerns
with
the
community,
we
should
look
for
a
solution
that
engages
actually
engages
with
them,
not
just
an
administratively
simpler
way
to
issue
fines,
I'm,
not
here,
to
argue
that
students
or
blameless
here,
but
we
already
know
that
engaging
directly
with
students
and
showing
them
that
we
expect
a
little
bit
more
from
them
virtually
guarantees
that
behavior
is
corrected.
Alcohol
and
disruption,
quiet
enjoyment,
tickets,
which
go
through
the
University's
restorative
justice
program.
Z
As
part
of
a
plea
bargain,
with
municipal
courts,
results
in
a
two
percent
or
lower
recidivism
rate
depending
on
the
year,
you
look
at
the
numbers.
This
process
educates
hundreds
of
students
every
year
on
the
law,
the
issue
at
hand
and
treats
them
with
dignity.
A
fine
does
not
guarantee
any
of
these
outcomes
and
further
worsens
The
View.
That
behavior
on
the
hill
is
a
behavior
to
complain
about
report
and
police.
Z
Making
these
changes
tonight
represents
this
presents
a
serious
risk
of
worsening
tenant
landlord
relations,
particularly
for
the
larger
and
already
predatory
management
organizations
on
the
hill.
When
a
state
patrol
officer
pulls
you
over
for
speeding
or
BPD
gets
you
on
a
red
light.
Unless
you
have
a
crazy
track
record,
the
entirety
of
that
conversation
is
community
engagement
and
educational
opportunity.
Do
you
understand
why
that
speed's
dangerous?
Do
you
realize
how
little
time
you
have
to
react?
Why
didn't
you
stop?
Z
Why
do
we
think
this
kind
of
an
ordinance
one
many
residents
have
never
thought
about
is
any
different.
These
changes
only
further
encourage
a
no
contact
citation
where
tenants
have
zero
chance
to
discuss
the
issue
with
a
code
enforcement
officer.
It
is
way
harder
to
dispute
these
changes
in
these
citations
when
the
landlord
is
the
one
named
and
then
paying
the
fine
out
right.
It's
sad
that
we
as
Community
view
it
as
our
priority
to
amend
code
and
police
Behavior
instead
of
treating
our
student
Community,
specifically
our
student
Community
as
neighbors.
B
Thanks
Chase
now,
if
Quentin
fellows.
Y
All
right
good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
Quinn
I'm,
a
senior
at
CU
Boulder
as
well,
and
a
part
of
student
government
tonight
I
want
to
Advocate
a
little
for
the
members
in
our
community
who
are
responsible,
tenants
and
may
be
harmed
by
these
proposed
changes.
If
they
go
ahead,
we
heard
a
little
bit
about
the
process
where
landlords
will
be
fined
and
then
can
refer
to
their
tenants,
whether
or
not
it
will
be
disputed.
Y
However,
we
are
aware
that
from
the
report
issued
by
the
boulder
Area
Rental
Housing
Association
in
November
that
a
lot
of
the
property
managers
here
simply
intend
to
pay
the
fine
outright
and
then
pass
it
on
to
their
students,
I'm
sure.
In
some
cases
they
may
consult
with
their
tenants
on
how
they'll
go
about
disputing
this
or
if
the
fine
will
be
paid.
Y
But
I
also
think
that
thinking
practically,
we
can't
expect
that
Boulder
property
management
or
four
star
is
going
to
seriously
work
with
every
single
one
of
their
tenants
to
try
to
fairly
adjudicate
the
issue.
We
also
know
that
on
the
hill,
it's
not
uncommon,
for
passerby
to
litter
or
dump
trash
on
properties
that
aren't
their
own
and
I
think
that
if
these
changes
go
ahead
as
proposed
right
now,
it's
almost
certain
that
some
people
who,
through
no
fault
of
their
own,
will
end
up
paying
more
rents
to
their
landlords
to
cover
these
fines.
Y
I'm,
not
looking
to
say
that
there's
no
issue
or
to
deny
that
we
need
policy
change
on
how
we
handle
weeds
and
trash
in
the
community.
However,
before
energy
changes
are
approved,
I
think
we
ought
to
look
to
find
a
solution
that
won't
inadvertently
cause
unnecessary
harm
to
our
residents.
Thank
you.
B
AA
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
letting
me
speak
this
evening.
My
name
is
Kel
Darnell
and
I'm.
A
hill
landlord
I'm.
Also
the
president
of
the
boulder
rental
Housing
Association
that
our
friend
just
spoke
about
barha
is
a
local
trade
associate
association
with
that
with
represents
over
1400
rental
units
in
Boulder
and
before
I.
Go
further
I'd
like
to
thank
Jen
Riley
for
the
great
and
informative
presentation
she
made
to
our
board
about
this
topic.
AA
It
is
our
understanding
that
the
purpose
of
this
ordinance
is
to
implement
process
Improvement
strategies
for
code
enforcement
staff
in
order
to
help
increase
compliance
among
residents
in
our
many
discussions,
both
in
the
hill
working
group
and
with
CU
Student
Government.
The
importance
of
members
of
the
public,
knowing
both
the
consequences
of
violations
and
fines
and
their
rights
in
the
process
has
been
stressed.
AA
Our
position
on
this
issue
is
that
adding
fines
that
are
easily
administered
without
the
benefit
of
personal
contact,
not
assessing
the
positive
change
of
the
new
notification
system
we
have
just
implemented
like
two
weeks
ago
and
placing
the
fine
reset
and
obscure
internal
document
is
not
good
public
policy.
The
recent
reinstatement
of
the
email
notification
system
for
landlords
should
make
a
big
difference
in
cases
for
weed
and
trash
violations,
and
we
would
like
a
chance
to
see
if
that
will
improve
the
situation
before
you
add
additional
fines
for
these
types
of
violations.
AA
AA
Therefore,
we
ask
that
the
final
vote
on
this
proposal
be
post
phone
by
six
months
in
order
to
review
the
data
we
Echo
the
sentiments
of
Cu
Student
Government
regarding
the
placement
of
the
fine
reset
in
the
Boulder
Police
Department
general
order,
as
opposed
to
the
ordinance.
We
have
not
seen
the
proposed
language
and
we
will
not
have
any
way
to
know
when
there
are
changes
to
this
document.
While
it
is
important
that
this
policy
be
written
down,
we
would
prefer
it
be
included
as
part
of
an
ordinance.
AA
Placing
this
information
in
internal
policy
manual
lacks
transparency.
How
will
the
general
public
look
this
up?
We
urge
you
to
vote
no
on
this
proposed
ordinance
or,
at
the
very
least,
postpone
your
decision
for
six
months
to
see
if
email
notifications
are
having
the
desired
impact.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
O
I
think
you
ought
to
do
to
do
sort
of
Justice
program.
I
think
you
ought
to
have
a
working
group,
including
students,
I.
Don't
think
that
it's
it's
going
to
benefit
anyone
if
you
treat
you
know
bad
behavior
like
like
the
people
are
not
you
know
even
like
their
children,
you
know
it's
if
you,
if
you
treat
them
like
adults,
maybe
they'll
behave
like
adults
and
if
they
don't,
then
you
go
into
really
catastrophic
expensive
reprimands
because
guess
what
they
can't
afford.
They're,
it's
you
know
they're
at
school.
O
You
know
they
can
get
Catch
Hell
from
their
parents.
If
their
parents
are,
are,
you
know,
footing
the
bill
for
their
travesties
and
that
isn't
ultimately
the
way
you
want
it
to
work
they're
in
young
Independence
and
they
need
to
work
with
restorative
justice
or
maybe
something
like
if
you
put
a
fine
for
one
person
in
the
household,
a
really
big
fine.
That
person
will
place
the
others,
because
they
don't
want
the
big,
fine
and
it'll
cause
them
to.
You
know:
work
out
the
problem
themselves
and
I
say:
try
it
out
restorative
justice.
O
It's
a
real
concept.
It's
like
Chase
said
it
really
works
well
and
obviously
a
lot
of
things
aren't
working
over
many
many
years
from
the
images
of
all
this
trash.
It's
just
unbelievable,
it's
worse
than
the
homeless
problem
and
then
think
about
your
policies.
When
you
approve
see
you
South
making
the
problem
worse,
that's
that's!
O
That's
counterintuitive
doesn't
make
sense
and
I
think
if
there's
any
way
to
reverse
that
decision
on
CU
South,
that
might
be
the
only
saving
grace
of
Boulder
and
I.
Think
you
need
to
have
more
minutes
that
you're
gonna
listen
to
the
public.
From
on
these
hearings,
you
don't
need
three
minutes
as
much
as
you
need
three
minutes
for
all
the
issues
coming
down
in
the
city
and
especially
today,
you
got
away
with
murder.
You
got
you
know,
seven
people
at
two
minutes
each
for
no,
you
got
it
was
a
little
more
than
that.
O
It
was
19
minutes
well,
historically,
Aaron
and
everyone.
You
know,
I've
been
around
doing
this
for
30
years,
there's
been
45
minutes
of
listening
to
the
public.
You
know,
if
you
think
you
can
solve
all
the
city's
problems
yourself
go
right
ahead.
Good
luck
with
that,
because
it's
not
working-
and
this
is
an
example
of
it
so
I
say
try
things
out,
doesn't
work,
then
you
really
slam
on
it.
O
AB
I'm
speaking
tonight,
to
address
an
important
related
topic
to
the
your
consideration
of
ordinance,
8557
and
the
need
for
staff
and
city
council
to
review
the
definitions
and
exemptions
in
the
city
code
that
apply
to
the
control
of
weeds.
The
current
city
code
does
not
clarify
that
natural
appearing
native
plantings,
such
as
a
native
plant,
Meadow
or
Naturescape,
are
exempt
from
potential
consideration
of
being
a
weed
problem
and
thus
could
be
at
odds
with
city
code.
AB
The
current
code
excludes
plants
in
flower
or
vegetable
gardens
is
being
defined
in
weeds,
though
many
Native
plantings
may
not
take
the
form
or
be
easily
identified
as
a
garden.
The
xers
society
and
other
partner
organizations
involved
in
local
efforts
to
promote
and
increase
the
extent
and
diversity
of
native
plant
habitats
in
Boulder
are
doing
so,
based
on
increasing
scientific
understanding
that
Urban
Landscapes
can
contribute
to
and
support
native
pollinators
and
other
beneficial
Wildlife,
while
also
creating
Landscapes
that
are
ecologically
diverse
and
more
resilient
to
the
impacts
of
climate
change.
AB
The
conversion
of
turf
Lawns,
which
are
very
poor,
pollinator
habitat
into
Landscapes
that
include
native
wildflowers,
grasses
and
shrubs
will
result
in
even
greater
Improvement
to
the
ecological
Vitality
of
Boulder's
Urban
Landscapes,
the
integration
of
more
native
plants
and
the
lack
of
common
knowledge
about
what
native
plants
are,
makes
it
even
more
important
to
be
careful
about
codified
definitions
in
weed
management.
Specifications.
In
summary,
is
there
is
a
very
intentional
and
important
shift
in
Boulder
to
move
away
from
where
traditional
Landscaping
practices
to
integrate
more
ecologically
diverse
and
climate
resilient
native
Landscapes?
AB
B
T
We
do
that
on
a
procedural,
so
code
enforcement
definitely
enforces
both
sides.
The
letter
of
the
law,
as
well
as
the
spirit
of
the
law
in
the
spirit
of
that
weed
ordinance,
is
to
keep
unkempt
and
dangerous
Lawns
under
control.
As
I
mentioned
in
the
public
hearing,
we
don't
take
enforcement
on
Native,
Landscapes,
zeroscapes
bee
habitats.
T
We
do
trainings
and
directly
coordinate
with
rela
Abernathy,
who
has
counseled
us
very
much
on
what
the
vision
moving
forward
for
that
wheat
ordinance
is
and
I
know,
she's
currently
looking
at
revising
that
to
be
more
in
line
with
what
we're
talking
about
today,
but
on
a
procedural
basis.
We
do
follow
that
her
guidance
as
well
as
City's
philosophy
and
go
with
the
spirit
of
that
and
prosecutors.
We
have
met
with
them
and
they
are
also
supportive
of
that
direction.
Okay,.
B
K
A
G
First,
thank
you
for
this
work
and
for
those
that
are
listening,
who
aren't
in
the
room
thanks
for
I
mean
this
has
been
going
on
for
years,
if
not
a
decade
or
more,
this
the
collaboration
sort
of
get
to
these
points,
to
bring
people
to
the
table
and
understand
the
issues
at
hand.
So
just
a
big
just
a
lot
of
gratitude
to
everyone.
That's
worked
to
get
us
here
and
so
I
think.
G
Certainly
the
people
in
this
room
will
get
the
credit
for
the
work,
but
but
I
think
it's
just
the
final
stamp
on
a
lot
of
Labor
over
many
years.
To
get
to
this
point
so
just
make
sure
everyone's
appreciated
for
all
that
work.
I.
Think
for
me
right
now,
I
think
my
my
place
is
I
I
like
where
this
is
headed
out
of
the
the
municipal
into
civil
I.
Think
the
structure
is
good.
G
There's
really
just
there's
really
just
the
two
pieces
that
I
sort
of
was
asking
my
probing
questions
on
that
I
like
to
see
changed,
I'd
love
to
see
restorative
justice
folded
into
this
in
a
meaningful
manner
and
I
and
I
think
the
right
place
for
that
is
at
that
initial
hundred
dollar
summons.
Where
there's
like?
G
Okay,
there's
a
penalty
to
be
had
and
you've
got
a
fork
in
the
road
I
either
pay
it
or
you
know,
get
compliance
and
then
I
route
through
the
restorative
justice,
and
so
hopefully,
since
it
is
going,
there's
a
notice
going
to
the
owner
as
well,
but
if
whatever
stuck
to
the
door,
if
that
can
be
crafted
in
a
way
that
a
tenant
reading
that
knowing
they're
a
CU
student,
they
know
they
have
that
option.
In
that
moment,
they
know
that,
oh,
this
is
going
to
be
a
fine.
G
That's
either
going
to
be
paid
directly
or
trickled
down
to
me
through
my
landlord
or
I
can
take
proactive
action
and
join
in
on
this
use,
restorative
justice
and
then
have
that
nullified
and
then
act
on
that
that
sort
of
change,
Behavior
I,
think
we
know
the
successes
of
that
restorative
justice
program
and
I
would
think.
It's
really
important
that
we
make
sure
it's
folded
in
here
and
I.
G
Think
that's
just
a
great
place
to
do
it
certainly
right
at
the
penalty
phase,
I'd
love
to
hear
what
my
colleagues
think
about
that
and
if
there's
some
better
Alternatives
but
I
think
that's
a
real
key
piece
and
then
really
the
other
one
was
just
lifting
up
that
issue
of
the
annual
reset,
just
making
sure
that's
front
and
foremost,
I
think
that's
a
concern
we
heard
from
not
just
students,
but
also
barha
and
I,
think
that's
an
easy
thing
to
just
make
sure
it's
front
and
forward.
G
So
people
have
a
really
clear
understanding
of
what
what's
in
front
of
them
in
case.
There's
a
clerical
error
on
our
end
too
right.
If
we
mistakenly
not
reset
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
the
first
thing
shows
up
is
is
500,
someone
would
it'd
be
nice
to
know
that
they
can
quickly
easily
see
that
there
might
have
been
an
error
in
that
and
know
that
that
was
something
that
wasn't
reset.
G
So
those
are
sort
of
just
my
comments
in
general,
but
I
love
where,
where
we've
gone
to
get
to
this
place-
and
hopefully
we
have
some
good
compliance
and
and
get
that
behavior
right
and
I.
Think
all
of
this
to
nuria's
point
earlier
about
the
package
of
things
that
we're
working
on
over
2023,
you
know,
hopefully
build
a
more
resilient
community
on
the
hill,
but
also
build
trust
among
neighbors
and
so
I'm
really
hopeful
that
we
don't
just
look
at
this
ordinance
in
a
vacuum.
G
Q
R
That
would
require
some
coordination
with
the
court,
which
I
I
think
that
she
judge
cook
would
be
open
to
that.
We
we've
definitely
used
restorative
justice
for
many
years
and
it
has
been
a
successful
program.
I,
don't
want
to
speak
for
judge
cook,
I
think
she's
actually
available,
so
she
might
be
able
to
speak
to
that,
but
it
would
involve
some
kind
of
just
behind
the
scenes.
Coordination
really.
E
B
G
E
E
Okay
decide
that
they
are
just
going
to
pass
they're,
not
even
going
to
tell
this
the
the
tenants
that
there
is
any
sort
of
a
problem
they're
just
going
to
pay
it
they're
going
to
have
a
budget
for
this.
Let's
say
and
they're
going
to
just
pay
it
every
time
and
there's
not
going
to
be,
and
it's
definitely
let's
say
it
does
get
passed
on
to
the
tenants
by
raising
the
rent
just
so
that
they
can
afford
this.
E
Is
there
anything
that
we
can
do
when
it
comes
to
discussing
like
tenant
landlord
leases,
for
example,
and
building
something
into
the
lease
where
they
have
to
discuss
the
first?
The
initial,
the
initial
citation
citation
before
they
pay
that
fine
I'm
concerned
about
that.
T
So
that
potentially
can
go
in
the
boulder
standardized
lease
or
the
disclosures
statement,
there
will
be
a
little
bit
of
process
to
amend
that.
We
are
also
posting
notification
to
the
resident
directly
at
the
property,
so
they
know
that
this
action
is
happening.
It's
not
in
a
vacuum
where
we
send
a
really
really
discreet
little
email
over
to
someone
and
that's
the
end
of
it.
We
email
the
agent,
the
owner.
If
they
have
that
on
file
even
with
emailing,
we
also
mail
it
to
their
to
their
address
records.
T
We
don't
just
rely
on
email
and
that
posting
at
the
property.
We
do
that
with
our
bear
ordinance.
Currently,
it
does
explain
the
fine
escalation.
We
would
be
happy
to
add
the
reset
to
that,
as
well
as
information
linking
them
directly
into
the
appeal
process,
so
that
they
don't
have
to
rely
on
getting
a
copy
of
the
citation
from
the
landlord.
We
can
certainly
enhance
that
document
to
add
those
features
and
a
disclosure
on
that.
That's
left
at
the
property
saying
a
owner,
agent
and
tenant
are
all
available
or
eligible
to
appeal.
This
citation.
T
T
If
anyone
wants
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
as
you
can
see,
it
lists
all
of
the
nuisance
violations
throughout
this
document,
what
the
code
section
is
what
is
required
to
comply
and
at
the
end
of
that
disclosure,
the
tenant
is
required
to
sign
that
they
acknowledge
these
are
the
rules
of
of
the
city
that
they
need
to
live
by.
In
this,
we
can
enhance
this
document
to
add
the
reset.
The
fine
escalation
and
the
ability
to
appeal
under
the
description
for
the
trash
ordinance
is
that
it
applies
to
fun.
E
Story,
my
daughter
lit,
was
on
the
hill.
She
lived
on
the
hill
with
a
bunch
of
friends
and
during
that
bear
ordinance
change
the
bear
trash
change.
The
Bears
were
coming
into
the
alley
and
they
were
knocking
down
the
trash,
and
so
they
got
their
first
citation
complaint.
They
got
their
first
complaint,
they
didn't
know
what
to
do.
They
cleaned
up
all
the
trash
with
their
gloves.
The
Bears
came
the
next
week
and
knocked
it
down
again
and
this
time
they
had
a
fine.
So
they
did
not
know
what
to
do.
E
They
didn't
their
trash
cans
were
broken
and
they
didn't
even
know
that
they
could
call
Western
Disposal
and
get
new
for
free
get.
You
know,
get
new
cans
so
for
some
reason,
there's
a
disconnect
between
what
the
students
are
reading
in
their
lease
I
think
and
what
and
what
they
know
so.
I
have
a
question,
and
this
is
for
student
government.
Is
there
a
way
for
the
the
hill
tenants
to
have
more
clarity
when
it
comes
to
what
they
can
do
about
trash?
E
E
T
I
can
say
when
we
initiated
that
original
process,
which
is
why
we're
doing
this,
not
everything
at
once.
We
learned
a
lot
of
lessons
about
notifying
we.
They
got
a
notice
for
a
broken
container,
I
I'm,
sure
of
it,
and
on
that
notice,
a
broken
container.
It
says
in
the
remedy
to
contact
your
waste
hauler,
whose
number
is
on
your
trash
can
to
have
this
replaced
free
of
charge
or
at.
T
If
you
don't
have
that
model
and
you're
required
to
provide
the
container
that
you
need
to
replace
the
container
and
here's
like
four
links
to
resources
to
buy
that
container
right.
So.
T
The
good
it
worked
did
so
we
do
try
that
education
up
front
as
your
your
daughter
experience
with
the
notice
and
the
information
and
when
it's
not
resolved,
and
they
repeat
that
behavior
by
not
changing
the
circumstance
that.
E
E
T
Have
to
say,
code
enforcement
is
very
open
to
hearing
feedback
from
you
from
the
community
from
student
council
from
landlords.
That's
why
I
went
to
the
director's
meeting
for
Barra
I.
Do
apologize
to
student
council
for
not
interfacing
I
honestly
did
not
think
of
that,
because
you
were
part
of
the
Hill
revitalization
group,
so
I
kind
of
sum
that
all
together,
but
that
will
change
in
the
future
for
sure
and
even
the
feedback
we've
received
tonight.
I
have
many
notes
as
to
add
this
to
this
and
change
the
language
for
that.
P
P
That
is
something
that
is
handoutable
to
anyone
who
she
is
interfacing
with
I
had
shared
that
in
Minneapolis
we
had
done
actually
in
concert
with
the
university,
a
visual
guide
in
Spanish
and
in
English
for
folks
and
I
know
I
offered
that
to
Lori
Cole
is
speaking
to
chase
yesterday
and
I
just
appreciate
the
time
he
took
to
talk
to
me
a
little
bit
yesterday.
P
What
really
sort
of
resonated
is,
we
need
more
places
to
talk
about
this
in
plain
language,
not
just
in
code,
so
thinking
about
all
the
great
improvements
that
Jen
is
already
thinking
about,
plus.
Where
are
the
ways
in
our
website
that
we
can
do
that?
What
are
other
opportunities
for
Education
will
continue
to
be
part
of
not
just
this
process,
but
frankly,
like
that
there
are
others.
P
So,
for
example,
we're
really
really
continuing
to
work
on
what
is
that
relationship
and
what
are
tenant
protections
as
we
move
forward,
because
we're
talking
right
now
of
weeds
and
trash
and
the
potential,
because
I
want
to
be
thoughtful
again,
that
there
are
landlords
who
will
not
pass
on
those
fines
to
to
their
tenants.
And
there
are
landlords
for
whom
it
will
not
get
to
a
fine
right.
They
will
correct
that
behavior
really
quickly.
P
So
I
want
to
lift
that
up
always,
but
we
want
to
be
thoughtful
about
what
that
looks
like,
because
it's
not
just
weeds
and
trash
where
fines
can
be
associated
with.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
there
are
predatory
landlords,
if
there
are
practices
that
people
are
concerned
about,
we
as
a
city
want
to
hear
about
them,
because
there
are
other
ways
to
address
that.
E
So
but
ultimately,
you
know
sometimes
money.
Fines
are
a
motivator,
and
so
my
daughter,
when
they
got
that
you
could
bet
that
they
called
up
the
trash
people
and
they
got
their
new
containers.
So
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
way
to
get
compliance.
I
know
that
I
did
stop.
I
did
once
make
once
make
a
right
turn
on
red
at
a
certain
intersection,
and
the
police
gave
me
a
ticket
and
I
said,
but
I
didn't
know,
and
they
said
we
don't
care,
it's
the
law
and
that's
the
first
time.
E
W
Of
course,
I
have
thought
there.
First
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
staff
and
Jen
I
have
heard
such
glowing,
things
about
you
and
your
team
from
everybody
that
I've
talked
to.
So
thank
you
so
much.
It's
clear
that
folks
appreciate
having
you
out
there
so
I
understand
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
about
streamlining.
W
What's
a
pretty
time
consuming
and
resource
intensive
process,
I
know
we're
really
interested
in
giving
renters
more
protections
and
that's
part
of
the
motivation
for
these
changes
and
I
hear
the
frustrations
of
a
lot
of
residents
that
we're
hoping
to
address
not
just
from
homeowners
but
from
student
renters
and
non-student
renters
as
well.
We
stayed
at
a
goal
of
these
ordinance.
Changes
is
to
build
toward
a
more
positive
neighborhood
culture
on
the
hill
and
I
share.
W
We
haven't
gotten
their
buy-in
for
that,
so
I'll
be
voting
no
again,
but
I
really
hope
that
you
all
hear
my
no
vote
as
a
not
yet
I
really
do
appreciate
the
goals
of
this
work
and
I
think
there's
still
more
to
do
given
who
is
opposing
these
changes?
I
could
definitely
get
to
a
guess.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
getting
buy-in
from
the
groups
who
are
most
impacted
by
our
decisions.
W
I
really
hope
that
we
can
always
make
sure
that
we're
getting
by
in
from
the
folks
who
are
most
impacted
by
our
decisions.
I
know
we're
never
going
to
get
to
consensus,
but
if
we
can
get
the
people
who
are
closest
to
the
problem,
to
agree
that
these
Solutions
are
the
right
ones,
I
think
we'll
be
in
a
good
spot.
Thank
you.
Q
Rachel
Jeannie
I
got
you
so
I
just
wanted
to
also
thank
all
of
you
for
the
hard
work.
As
someone
who
worked
on
the
hill
revitalization
work
group
for
a
lot
of
years,
I've
seen
up
close
that
the
work
that
each
of
you
has
done,
Sandra,
that's
where
we
first
met
and
I
was
yeah
happy
to
know
you
already
in
2021,
so
just
want
to
give
some
perspective.
From
that
background,
there's
there's
been
some
emails
and
discussion
that
we
haven't
listened
to
students
or
didn't
include
students
in
this
process.
Q
Q
She
said,
as
we
have
discussed
many
times
before,
the
general
lack
of
enforcement
not
only
sets
a
precedent
for
poor
student
Behavior,
but
also
frustrates
the
students
who
do
choose
to
follow
restrictions
and
general
expectations.
It
is
impossible
to
enforce
without
accountability,
so,
while
students
may
be
aware
of
it
or
not
them
engaging
in
this
poor
Behavior
sets
an
example
not
only
for
them
around
for
them
and
around
them,
but
additionally,
a
precedent
of
non-compliance.
Q
Q
Well,
typically,
this
is
something
students,
May
stray
away
from
I
believe
it
is
in
all
of
our
best
interests
to
pursue
an
enhancement
not
only
to
improve
town
and
gown
relations,
but
improve
our
quality
of
life
as
well,
all
while
reducing
the
possibility
of
students
to
face
legal
repercussions
that
will
affect
them
far
after
their
University
tenure.
So
just
want
to
say
that
this
is
what
we're
doing
tonight
is
really
in
keeping
with
the
feedback
that
we
have
gotten
from
students
for
years,
and
you
know
we
could
try
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
Q
I
think
that,
given
that
we
looked
up
down
and
around
at
so
many
different
options
again
with
with
all
the
stakeholders
around
the
table,
I
think
we
would
probably
end
up
in
the
same
place
and
we
would
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
staff
time
and
take
away
from
other
work
plan
items
that
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
move
on
to.
This
is
not
a
substantive
change.
This
is
not
a
new
trash
or
weeds
law.
Q
It's
just
basically
How
We,
Do
notice,
it's
staff
efficiency
and
it's
really
a
reduction
in
the
number
of
times
that
police
officers
will
be
at
an
address
which
is
pretty
important
to
me.
It
potentially
eliminates
points
of
face-to-face
contact
by
a
ticketing
officer
and
it
eliminates
some
judicial
discretion
whether
or
not
to
you
know
ticket
or
how
much
to
sentence
and
I
mean
no
disrespect
to
anyone
when
I
say
this,
but
points
of
discretion
in
the
criminal
justice
system
are
not
always
a
great
thing.
Statistically,
outcomes
are
subject
to
bias.
Q
It
is
part
of
why
we
see
black
men,
ticketed,
arrested,
convicted
and
sentenced
to
longer
terms
for
the
same
conduct
as
white
men.
So
if
we're
worried
about
Equity
here,
these
improvements
are
actually
helpful
and
they
will
they
will
reduce
discretion
and
just
be
really
clean
ticket
amounts
and
fewer
times
that
people,
the
police
department,
is
at
an
address
and
and
fewer
points
of
of
interaction
with
the
police
department
and
the
police
department
can
be
working
on
real
crimes
rather
than
spending
additional
time
doing
this.
So
I
love
it.
Q
For
that
reason,
also,
this
is
semi-related,
but
I
am
I'm
a
fan
of
increasing
occupancy
so
that
people
can
better
afford
to
live
here
in
Boulder
that
aligns
with
racial
Equity,
climate
crisis
responses
and
happier
community
members
just
overall
who
don't
have
commutes.
There
are
a
lot
of
people,
including
on
the
hill
and
and
that
have
interacted
in
this
work
group
who
are
really
skittish
to
that
idea
and
and
I
reassure
them
that
quality
life
worries
are
not
falling
on
deaf
ears
for
me
or
I.
Q
Think
for
my
colleagues
and
we
are
working
hard
to
fix
deficits
in
reporting
and
enforcement
systems,
I
I
pitch
that
it's
not
going
to
be
worse
to
have
more
neighbors,
because
it's
not
going
to
be
more
noise
or
trash.
We
want
people
to
be
able
to
live
here
and
you
know
I
don't
mean
to
sound
too,
like
hippy-dippy,
but
we
want
people
to
live
in
peace
and
Harmony.
Q
So
I
want
us
to
welcome
and
love
our
neighbors,
but
that
also
does
require
us
to
be
good
neighbors,
it's
a
two-way
street,
and
so
what
we're
talking
about
here
is
a
a
not
large
number
of
of
renters
who
are
choosing
basically
not
to
clean
up,
broken
glass
and
and
leave
heaps
of
trash
and
and
things
that
that
really
do
impact
quality
life
and
staff
laid
out
some
of
the
serious
issues
like
infestations
and
fire
hazards
that
are
attended
to
that
rotting,
trash
piles
and
noxious,
weeds
and
and
rats.
Q
K
M
K
V
In
the
introduction
it
was
mentioned
that
these
are
not
primarily
affecting
students,
but
the
areas
in
the
heat
map
are
the
hill,
Martin
acres
and
gross
Grove,
which
are
all
areas
and
areas
of
town
where
we
see
a
lot
of
students
living
I
hear
that
they're
I
hear
the
issue
and
the
need
for
a
cultural
shift,
but
I
don't
agree
that
these
help
create
that
shift.
I
take
issue
with
the
fine
escalation
and
policing
how
people
choose
to
upkeep
their
yards
in
general.
V
We
have
separate
regulations
for
both
health
and
safety
regarding
site
triangles,
and
if
this
were
about
flammability,
we
would
include
requirements
around
Juniper
bushes.
We
could
create
the
requirement
for
buffer
zones
around
buildings
to
keep
grab
grass
and
shrubs
away
from
structures
separately,
but
our
current
definition
of
weeds
is
highly
problematic.
It
doesn't
include
Provisions
for
Native
Landscaping
and
in
general,
I
find
our
Landscaping
odds,
often
at
odds
with
our
environment
or
sorry.
I
find
our
Landscaping
standards
at
odds
with
our
environmental
ideals.
V
We
are
looking
in
the
future
at
revisiting
the
definition
of
weeds,
but
for
now
the
the
fine
rates
seem
arbitrary
and
so
does
all,
although
you've
put
a
very
kind
spin
on
it
and
I
think
that
you
know
I
believe
that
you're
working
very
hard
to
do
this
well,
the
enforcement
also
seems
arbitrary
I
would
support
taking
a
second
look
at
these
fines,
the
definition
of
weeds
and
figuring
out
how
we
can
Center
a
restorative
justice
and
mediation
approach,
but
as
it
as
it
stands.
B
Well,
I'll
Echo,
the
thanks
the
to
everyone,
who's
been
involved.
I
know
this
has
been
years
of
work
on
this
and
then
the
related
all
the
related
work.
That's
been
going
on
this
Rachel
referred
to,
and
thanks
for
your
work
on
that,
and
also
to
our
absent
council
member
colleague
Mark
for
his
years
on
that
that
group
as
well
so
appreciate
all
the
work
you've
done
stakeholder
engagement
and
coming
up
with
this.
B
This
set
of
proposed
changes
and
I'll
just
say
fundamentally
I
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
allow
out
of
control
weeds
in
in
the
city
and
I.
Don't
think
that
enormous
piles
of
trash
should
be
left
without
any
kind
of
Remedy,
but
having
it
be,
those
be
criminal.
Behaviors
doesn't
make
sense
to
me
right
like
right
now
those
are
crimes
and
when
your
served
a
citation,
you
have
to
go
to
court
to
defend
yourself
and
and
I.
B
Don't
think,
that's
the
right
approach
for
having
too
many
weeds
in
your
in
your
yard,
so
I
think.
There's
a
problem
to
be
addressed
but
I
think
addressing
it
with
civil
penalties
rather
than
criminal
violations
is,
is
the
right
way
to
go
so
I
think
that's
fundamentally.
What
we're
doing
here
tonight
and
I
think
that's
absolutely
a
step
in
the
right
direction.
So
I
appreciate
the
the
testimony
from
folks
tonight
and
Chase
and
Quinn
appreciate
you
being
here
and
representing
student
government
and
the
voices
of
students.
B
That's
really
important
and
I
appreciate
that
we
took
a
few
minutes
to
talk
this
afternoon,
and
that
was
helpful
for
me
as
well,
and
so
it
thinking
through
their
concerns,
I
think
that
that
split
between
you
know
the
tenant,
getting
a
notice
and
quite
possibly,
being
ultimately
responsible
for
the
fine,
but
the
property
manager
being
the
one
who's
found
responsible
and
may
pay
the
fine
without
consulting
the
tenant.
I
think
that's
an
issue
that
we
need
to
resolve.
B
So
I
appreciated
your
answers
Jen
earlier
about
how
there
is
that
notice,
posted
and
there
is
the
opportunity
to
reversify
if
it's
found
that
in
fact
it
was
done
in
error
or
their
outstanding
Financial
stances
right
and
I
also
really
liked
what
you
were
saying.
I
think
it
was
in
response
to
some
Council
comments
before
about
increasing
the
information.
B
That's
on
the
notice,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful,
as
well
as
the
standard
documentation
that
we
have
to
to
get
this
all
this
information
in
there,
so
that
if
there
is
a
tenant
who
gets
that
notice
and
is
like,
oh,
my
goodness,
what's
going
on
here,
I'm,
not
sure
what
to
do
like
to
tear.
Wouldn't
your
your
daughter
had
this
issue
to
make
sure
that
they
do
know
what
to
do.
B
If
we
have
all
that
information,
if
they
read
through
the
notice
and
so
that
they
can
prevent
the
situation
where
you
know
they
weren't
at
fault,
and
but
the
landlord
pays
it
anyway
and
then
they're
stuck
with
the
fine,
so
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
to
work
on
that
as
we
implement
this
new
process
to
make
sure
that
that's
as
friendly
as
possible
to
the
tenants
to
make
sure
they're.
Not
you
know,
there's
no
mistreatment
in
any
way,
because
the
imbalance
that
could
be
present
I
liked
Matt.
B
What
you're
saying
about
the
restorative
justice,
so
I
I,
would
like
to
see
how
we
can
weave
that
in
to
this
new
process
going
forward
because
I
I,
like
you
say,
I,
think
that
Sandra
you
said
that
Center.
That
takes
some
work
right
to
figure
that
out.
But
hopefully
we
can.
We
can
do
that
and
then
I
would
like
to
clarify
about
the
annual
reset
of
fines,
because
we've
heard
concerns
from
pretty
much
everyone
involved
with
that.
B
So
personally,
I
would
like
to
see
that
in
the
motion
that
we
passed
tonight
to
get
that
explicit
and
also
make
sure
that
the
information
about
that
is
on
the
notices
and
everything
else,
that's
posted.
So
people
are
fully
aware
of
that
with
all
that
said,
I'm
in
support
and
look
forward
to
getting
this
pass
tonight
and
so
I
think
everybody's
had
a
chance
to
say
something
if
they
wanted
to.
So
perhaps
someone
would
like
to
to
make
a
motion.
G
B
I
could
so
well
and
then
I'd
look
to
you
all.
If,
if
we
wanted
to
be
explicit
about
the
annual
resetting
in
the
motion
that
we
do
tonight,
maybe
I'd
look
to
you
for
the
recommendation
on
the
best
way
to
do
that.
I
can
certainly
throw
some
language
in,
but
if
you
want
to
think.
K
B
R
R
I'm
going
to
take
a
a
broad
approach
here,
but
I
I
think
it's
important
to
explain
the
reasons
why
so
this
the
city
of
Boulder
is
a
city
manager,
Council
form
of
government.
As
you
all
know,
Council
has
this
legislative
role
in
setting
City
politics
policies
by
enacting
laws
and
ordinances.
Generally
speaking,
those
ordinance
set
forth
what
we
can
and
can't
do.
The
implementation
and
operational
aspects
of
ensuring
compliance
with
these
laws
is
entrusted
to
the
city
manager
and
all
of
her
departments
and
staff.
R
One
of
the
tools
used
to
provide
consistency
and
procedural
aspects
of
operations
is
through
the
adoption
of
internal
policy
documents
by
Department
I'm,
providing
this
background
to
explain
why
it's
important
not
to
codify
operational
procedures
in
an
ordinance.
One
of
the
most
important
tenets
in
ordinance
drafting
101
is
to
be
consistent,
consistent
in
the
use
of
terms
consistent
with
format
and
consistent
with
with
form.
R
For
example,
if
we
were
to
include
resetting
the
fines
in
August
a
procedural
matter
into
the
ordinance,
it
could
call
into
question
why
this
isn't
included
in
other
fine
escalation
code
violations,
of
which
there
are
many
other
fine
escalation
code
violations
run
the
gamut
from
parking
to
alarm
permits
to
dogs
off
leash
to
enforcement
of
drought
response
measures
if
procedural
requirements
are
not
included
in
the
ordinance.
Does
that
mean
that
we
can't
Implement
them?
Do
they
now
need
to
all
be
codified?
R
For
example,
if
parking
violations
that
have
fine
escalation
schedules
are
silent
about
warnings,
does
this
mean
that
parking
officers
can't
provide
a
warning?
This
creates
a
slippery
slope
of
introducing
ambiguity
where
it
isn't
warranted
and
for
that
reason,
I
have
strongly
opposed
requiring
that
I
think
that
if
the
solution
is
providing
folks
with
that
information,
there
are
many
Avenues
in
which
we
can
do
that
without
creating
ambiguity
in
our
code.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
K
W
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment
about
that
I
I
think
I
mean
it
sounds
like
there
are
some
things
that
folks
are
looking
for,
you
all
to
kind
of
sort
out,
and
you
know
fix
after
this
passes
tonight
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
that
can
be
one
of
the
things,
maybe
that
that
you're
having
a
conversation
about
is
you
know
how?
W
How
is
that
information
getting
out
to
barha
to
cusg
to
the
folks,
who've
asked
for
it
in
a
way
that
feels
transparent
and
where
you
know
they
will
know
where
to
go
for
it
or
be
assured
of
some
way
of
finding
that
information
or
having
it
brought
to
them.
If
anything
changes
in
the
future,
because
I
definitely
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
and
this
feels
like
a
place
where
some
additional
conversations
with
the
folks
who
have
concerns
may
help.
T
I
can
speak
to
that.
We
can
certainly
add
this
not
only
to
our
City
website
for
code
enforcement.
For
my
unit
we
can
add
it
to
every
notice
and
every
citation
that
will
be
issued.
We
can
make
sure
that
we
have
a
public
campaign
around
that,
as
baraha
mentioned,
I
did
go
and
speak
to
them
directly
about
it.
Our
city
and
departmental
policies
for
all
departments
are
available
at
any
time
to
the
public.
T
Anyone
could
look
up
a
policy
or
a
question,
a
policy,
but
we're
more
than
happy
to
memorialize
that
in
every
document
that
we
send
out
on
this
issue.
This
is
the
fine
reset.
This
is
the
fine
escalation
that
can
be
included
in
any
appeal
paperwork.
It
can
be
included
in
the
original
notice.
It
can
also
be
included
in
the
citation
on
the
code
enforcement
website
and
any
Communications
to
any
student
or
landlord
groups,
we're
very
forward
about
that.
T
But
let's
say
you
move
in
in
September
and
you
miss
that
that
reset
as
soon
as
we
become
aware
of
that,
it's
no
different
than
I
can't
pay
it
or
I'm
elderly,
or
something,
if
you
say,
hey,
I,
just
I
just
leased
this
property
a
week
ago.
We're
going
to
immediately
make
that
adjustment
to
a
first
violation.
So
we're
always
open
to
that
conversation
into
that's
where
the
discretion
is,
is
very
important
to
be
able
to
adapt
to
those
situations.
T
Whether
you
move
in
in
August
as
most
of
the
students
do
or
if
you're
a
regular
tenant.
That's
not
a
student,
and
you
moved
in
in
July.
We
can
certainly
make
that
accommodation
and
bring
that
information
forward
and
all
the
documentation
and
website
and
education
materials.
We'll
even
put
it
in
our
brochure
and
on
a
t-shirt.
W
See
I'm
waiting
for
the
tick
tock
video
with
all
this
stuff.
This
is
kind
of
what
I'm,
what
I'm
waiting
for,
but
no
I'm,
so
I'm
just
I'm
wondering
if
just
having
that
conversation
with
folks,
because
I
mean
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
these
things
sound
like
they
are
going
to
meet
the
needs
that
the
barhan
cusd
were
asking
for,
but
I
think
having
that
conversation
and
asking
how
can
we,
you
know,
get
this
information
but
I'm
wondering
if
that
may
be
something
yeah
so.
B
What
what
I
wonder
is
thanks
for
that
Nicole
is
if
we
could
have
an
additional
motion
after
the
ordinance
passes,
with
requests
like
Council
direction,
to
request
certain
things,
including
the
language
to
be
included
in
all
this
information,
would
would
that
not
be
overstepping
our
division
of
separation
of
powers
here.
B
G
We're
memorializing
after
we
take
action
on
this
ordinance.
Could
I
friendly
can
I
make
a
friendly
addition
to
your
request
on
the
language
on
annual
stuff,
but
also
with
regards
to
restorative
justice.
So
at
least
those
two
pieces
we
can
memorialize
and
if
there
are
others,
but
I
just
want
to
see.
If
that's
a
friendly.
B
B
Okay,
seeing
none
do
we
do
a
roll
call
here?
Yes,.
C
E
B
Much
then
I
will
go
ahead
and
make
a
further
motion
that
we
give
direction
to
the
city
manager
and
to
include
information
about
the
fine
schedule
and
find
resetting
schedule
in
all
public
materials
about
this
ordinance,
including
notices
posted
about
violations
of
the
ordinance
and
to
and
to
also
include
work
on,
including
restorative
justice
techniques.
B
Q
B
R
You
turn
the
mic
on.
You
know:
I
I,
don't
know
if
I've
ever
been
asked
that
question
before
I
think
that
that,
if
it's
important
to
the
council
to
make
it
part
of
the
record
in
a
different
way,
then
it's
it's
whatever
the
will
of
the
council.
P
Okay
with
it
I
know
that
we
will
do
it,
whether
it's
emotion,
whether
it's
a
not
a
five,
we
have
an
interest
in
doing
this
ourselves.
We
have
a
message
from
the
judge
that
she
is
certainly
willing
and
open
to
figuring
out
how
to
collaborate
on
restorative
justice,
so
we
are
committed
to
it.
However,
it
needs
to
be
memorialized,
it
will
be
memorialized
in
this
recording
and
in
the
summary,
I
will
note.
C
W
Yeah
I
just
had
a
couple
of
requests
to
add
one
is
to
make
sure
to
include
cusd
and
barhoff
in
some
of
these
discussions,
especially
with
regard
to
not
codifying
but
documenting
the
the
resetting
in
August,
because
that
was
one
thing
that
I
heard
from
both
of
them,
and
the
other
thing
is
just
to
potentially
have
a
check-in
at
some
point,
see.
B
B
K
W
I
just
wanted
to
address
the
CU
students
here
in
the
audience,
as
well
as
anybody
listening
in
and
I
just
wanted
to
apologize.
I
read
some
of
the
comments
that
folks
put
in
the
B
hair,
Boulder
survey.
I
think
some
of
them
were
really
referring
to
students
as
sort
of
being
nuisances
who
aren't
really
welcome
in
the
community
and
I'm.
Sorry,
for
that,
nobody
should
have
to
feel
like
they
don't
belong
in
our
community,
so
I
hope
the
entire
Community
can
just
think
about.
B
C
All
right,
sir.
Thank
you.
Our
second
public
hearing
is
item
5B
on
tonight's
agenda.
It
is
the
concept
plan,
review
and
comment
for
proposed
Redevelopment
at
2801
J
road
to
include
84
for
sale,
dwelling
units
ranging
from
1050
square
feet
to
1800
square
feet
consisting
of
town
home,
duplex
and
Triplex
housing
types.
The
plan
proposes
40
percent,
that
is
34
middle
income,
affordable
units,
the
percent
of
affordable
housing
community
benefits
will
be
finalized
through
annexation,
reviewed
under
case
number
lur
20220038.
P
Thank
you
Alicia,
and
to
kick
us
off
I
believe
we're
going
straight
to
staff
and
I
am
going
to
send
this
to
Shannon
as
you
get
yourself
organized
and
set
I
wish
I
had
more
pithy
things
to
say
to
buy
time
for
you,
but
I,
don't
so
I'll
just
keep
talking
for
a
moment
there.
You
go.
AD
AD
So
I'll
just
briefly
cover
the
information
in
staff's
memo,
including
the
concept
plan
and
purpose
context.
The
proposed
Project
tonight
some
key
issues
and
public
feedback
received
so
far.
AD
So
the
purpose
of
the
concept
plan
is
to
review
and
discuss
a
development
proposal
and
identify
key
issues
in
advance
of
more
detailed
submittals.
So
the
planning
board
held
a
public
hearing
on
this
item
on
December
6th
and
city
council
chose
to
call
up
the
item
in
January
and
referred
the
item
to
Tab
and
dab.
No
formal
action
is
being
taken
on
this
item
tonight.
It's
intended
to
be
a
discussion
and
to
provide
feedback
and
guidance
to
the
applicant.
AD
So
next
moving
to
the
site
and
surrounding
context.
This
proposal
is
in
unincorporated,
Boulder
County,
it's
Northeast
of
the
intersection
of
28th
and
J,
and
it's
immediately
east
of
city
limits
the
site's
4.58
acres
and
contains
the
existing
City
Church
Boulder.
Building
this
property
is
in
area
two
of
the
bbcp,
which
is
the
area
now
under
County
jurisdiction
that
can
be
considered
for
annexation.
AD
AD
The
existing
property
contains
the
church
building
and
a
parking
lot.
The
property
contains
an
active
prairie
dog
colony
and
during
prior
reviews,
Neighbors
have
commented
that
Wildlife
can
be
seen
on
the
property.
It's
mostly
flat
with
a
gentle
slope.
It
contains
some
mature
landscaping
and
trees
and
has
some
obstructed
views
of
the
foothills,
the
surrounding
areas,
primarily
single-family
residential
low
density.
Here
you
can
see
some
neighborhoods
identified
nearby.
The
Lubavitch
synagogue
is
just
to
the
South
across
Jay
Road,
and
the
Peace
Lutheran
Church
is
located
to
the
Southwest.
AD
AD
One
of
the
unique
aspects
of
this
site
is
its
context
and
location
right
at
the
edge
of
the
city.
It's
not
part
of
any
specific
area
plan
or
sub-community
plan
that
would
provide
guidelines
for
its
development.
There
are
a
couple
of
Master
plans
that
are
relevant
to
mention
here.
You
can
see
on
the
left,
there's
a
large
Park
property
owned
by
the
city.
That's
north
of
this
site
within
the
planning
Reserve
it's
planned
for
future
long-term
Park
needs.
There's
no
development
plans
currently
in
place
for
that
park.
Space
on
the
right.
AD
You
can
see
some
existing
and
proposed
Transportation
connections.
There
are
existing
on-street
bike
routes
on
Jan
36
and
a
multi-use
path
is
identified
on
the
transportation
master
plan
shown
in
the
green
line.
That's
intended
to
connect
up
to
that
Future
Park
space
for
some
additional
historical
context.
In
2015,
the
planning
board
considered
a
concept
plan
review
on
this
site
that
consisted
of
94
permanently
affordable
dwelling
units
in
somewhat
larger
format
buildings.
AD
At
the
time,
the
planning
board
generally
agreed
with
the
staff
analysis
that
at
that
time,
which
was
to
support
a
lower
density
than
the
94
units
that
were
proposed,
then,
when
the
2015
bbcb
update
was
happening,
the
city
reviewed
a
request
to
amend
the
comp
plan.
Land
use
designation
on
the
site,
The
Proposal
was
for
mxr
mix
density,
residential
and
City
staff
had
recommended
Mr
medium
density
residential.
That
request
was
ultimately
withdrawn.
So
that's
why
the
site
is
still
designated
public
and
then
in
2016
an
annexation
and
site
review
were
reviewed
by
staff.
AD
So
now
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
site
in
history,
so
we'll
move
to
tonight's
proposal.
This
concept
plan
proposal
includes
a
request
to
amend
the
BBC
from
the
current
public
land
use
designation
to
mxr
mixed
density
residential.
This
designation
is
intended
for
developments
that
provide
affordable
housing
and
have
a
variety
of
housing,
types
and
densities
that
allow
up
to
six
to
six
to
twenty
units
per
acre.
AD
This
proposal
would
require
annexation
and
initial
zoning.
The
applicant
has
proposed
rmx
to
residential
mix
2.
This
zoning
is
intended
to
accommodate
a
mix
of
densities
through
the
site
review
process.
This
zoning
can
allow
for
densities
of
up
to
20
units
per
acre
if
certain
density,
bonus
and
site
review
criteria
are
met,
in
particular
a
provision
of
affordable
housing.
AD
The
conceptual
site
plan
you
see
here
includes
the
84
dwelling
units
on
fee,
simple
Lots,
the
unit
sizes
range
from
about
a
thousand
to
eighteen
hundred
square
feet
and
the
Lots
primarily
face
onto
proposed
private
streets.
The
dwellings
have
a
compact
form
with
minimal
internal
setbacks,
and
they
have
a
mix
of
front
and
Alley
loaded
configurations.
AD
In
terms
of
this
specific
site
plan
proposal,
staff
provided
feedback
on
several
aspects
of
the
design
that
are
included
in
the
memo.
A
few
items
to
note
were
the
non-standard
street
sections
and
the
proposal
to
provide
private
streets,
which
the
city
is
typically
not
supportive
of
due
to
long-term
maintenance
concerns,
staff
also
recommended
additional
attention
to
the
design
and
alignment
of
the
multi-use
path
and
the
Open
Spaces
on
the
site
in
terms
of
the
overall
review
processes.
This
proposal
would
require.
AD
AD
On
this
slide,
you
can
see
the
first
two
key
issues
that
were
discussed,
which
are
the
land
use,
designation
and
the
zoning,
so
this
chart
shows
a
summary
of
the
existing
the
proposed
and
what
staff
had
recommended
so
for
key
issue.
One.
This
proposal
requests
to
amend
the
bvcp
land
use
map
designation,
is
currently
public
and
the
proposal
is
mxr
mix.
Density
residential
staff
had
recommended
Mr
medium
density
residential
at
the
planning
board
hearing
the
board.
AD
Members
were
not
primarily
concerned
with
whether
the
property
was
designated
mxr
or
Mr,
but
were
rather
mostly
concerned
with
the
design
of
The
Proposal
in
addressing
some
of
the
issues
such
as
Transportation
quality,
open
space
and
providing
a
desirable
development
under
key
issue,
2
The
Proposal
would
need
to
have
a
zoning
District
established.
A
majority
of
the
board.
Members
agreed
that
the
proposed
rmx2
zoning
District
would
be
appropriate
and
consistent
with
the
goals
of
the
bbcp
in
particular,
because
it
would
support
for
establishing
a
range
of
housing.
AD
The
last
key
issue
was
just
general
feedback
on
the
guidelines
for
review
and
comment
as
part
of
a
concept
plan,
so
the
planning
board
had
provided
feedback
on
several
aspects
of
The
Proposal.
They
had
General
support
for
the
aspirations
of
the
proposal
to
provide
a
mix
of
affordable
and
modestized
market
rate
housing.
AD
Lastly,
to
talk
a
little
about
public
notification
and
feedback,
written
notice
was
provided
consistent
with
the
land
use
code
and
notice
was
posted
on
the
property.
The
applicant
held
a
virtual
neighborhood
meeting
on
November
9th
and
the
planning
board
held
its
public
hearing
on
December
6th.
Many
written
comments
were
received
and
are
included
in
council's
packet
at
the
planning
board.
AD
Hearing
six
members
of
the
community
spoke
in
support
of
The
Proposal,
in
particular
with
regards
to
the
affordable
housing
12
community
members
spoken
opposition,
including
expressing
concerns
specifically
about
traffic
such
as
access,
cyclist
and
pedestrian
safety
and
existing
conditions
at
the
intersection
of
28th
and
J.
There
is
also
opposition
to
the
proposed
density
and
concerns
about
the
compatibility
of
The
Proposal
with
the
surrounding
area.
AD
B
Q
I,
maybe
just
have
one
general
question
about
the
Tab
and
dab,
referral
and
timeline.
You
know
this
is
it's
not
something
we
that
is
often
done
or
has
been
often
done
before.
Q
AD
Like
yeah,
because
the
concept
plans
that
we
get
and
the
level
of
information
we
receive
is
pretty
preliminary,
we
typically
find
that
it's
best
for
it
to
go
to
Tab
and
dab
during
the
site
review
process,
because
then
we
have
a
really
specific
level
of
information
for
them
to
give
us
like
specific
feedback
on
the
final
design.
That's
that's
coming
forward
at
that
time.
So
that
would
be
our
typical
recommendation
is
to
get
into
the
site
review
process
and
get
that
feedback
at
that
time
and.
AD
Of
that
yeah
I
think
the
at
the
site
review.
That's
when
we
kind
of
have
that
the
the
numbers
and
the
level
of
knowledge
of
specifically
about
things
like
traffic
studies
and
things
like
that.
That
would
be
really
helpful
to
for
us
to
have
enough
information
for
them
to
really
give
us
helpful
feedback.
Then,
okay,
thanks.
AE
B
AF
Good
evening,
mayor
and
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Margaret
freund
and
I'm,
the
developer
and
applicant
for
this
project.
I
own
and
live
in
a
house
in
Newlands
here
in
Boulder
and
I
develop
in
Richmond
Virginia,
where
I
also
have
a
home.
We
recently
completed
a
project
in
Virginia
that
is
mixed
income
and
includes
new
construction
and
the
restoration
of
a
former
School
in
that
project.
AF
Residents,
ranging
in
income
levels
from
40
Ami
to
150
Ami
live
together
alongside
creative
offices,
art
studios,
a
Market
Cafe
and
a
ceramic
Studio
I,
truly
believe
in
the
overarching
benefits
of
mixed
income
communities
at
2801,
J
Road
There's
an
opportunity
to
achieve
some
of
the
city's
most
pressing
housing
goals
in
2016
I
submitted
a
plan
for
smaller
rental
apartments
at
this
site
that
were
less
suitable
for
families.
I
pulled
this
application
as
the
requirement
of
70
permanently
affordable
housing
made
the
development
unfeasible
over
the
last
three
years.
AF
AF
As
a
result,
we
created
a
plan
that
would
work
from
a
development
perspective
and
bring
Community
benefit
to
Boulder
by
providing
as
much
for
sale,
middle
income,
family
housing
as
possible.
As
we
understand
from
housing
staff,
the
proposed
34
permanently
middle-income
for
sale
units
is
greater
than
the
total
for
sale
permanently
income
units
in
the
city.
We
have
been
in
discussions
with
Flatirons
Habitat
for
Humanity
to
build
the
middle
income
housing
on
site,
and
you
have
an
email
of
support
from
them.
AF
Here's
a
modified
plan
responding
to
planning
board's
comment
on
the
need
for
more
open
space.
It
reduces
the
density
by
four
units
resulting
in
a
loss
of
two
middle
income
units
and
doubles
the
open
space
at
the
center
of
the
community
note
there
is
a
200
acre,
Park
900
feet
directly
to
the
north
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
modified
plan
also
shows
the
addition
of
a
right
turn
lane
at
the
site
exit
slightly
reducing
parking.
AF
The
good
news
is
that
an
updated
traffic
study
done
in
January
of
this
year
showed
traffic
at
the
28th
and
J
intersection
has
decreased
since
our
required
traffic
study
in
2016.,
airplane,
envision's,
middle
income
and
market
rate
home
homeowners
living
in
a
cohesive
community.
The
planning
staff
has
suggested
lower
density.
AF
This
is
no
surprise,
as
density
is
often
viewed
as
the
enemy
of
good
neighborhoods.
In
fact,
lowering
density
has
the
greatest
negative
impact
on
affordability
and
we
believe
affordability
is
compatible
with
good
neighborhoods.
We
understand
that
the
for
sale
component
of
this
proposed
development
will
be
a
covenant
in
the
annexation
agreement.
There
are
ways
to
increase
the
success
of
middle-income
homeowners
by
reducing
monthly
fees
that
are
available
due
to
the
annexation
and
we're
happy
to
discuss
this
further
or
answer
questions.
AF
The
streets
must
remain
private
to
preserve
the
density,
and
we
would
like
to
use
easements
for
right-of-ways
and
other
areas
that
have
shared
public-private
use
rather
than
dedications.
For
the
same
reason,
this
site
is
well
suited
to
getting
as
much
middle
income
housing
as
possible.
It's
bordered
by
a
highway
and
a
main
road
on
two
sides,
and
while
there
is
rural
land
to
the
north
and
east,
this
land
is
the
future
solution
to
the
affordable
housing
options.
AF
The
market
rate
homes
are
smaller
due
to
the
higher
density
and
while
not
affordable.
They
are
more
accessible
than
homes.
Twice
the
size,
the
middle
incoming
Market
homes
will
create
a
community
that
reads
as
one
where
there's
not
much
difference
in
the
home
sizes
and
the
type
of
families
that
live
here
you
can
see
the
benefits
of
what
we
seek
in
the
holiday
neighborhood
nearby
the
holiday
site
was
annexed,
is
rmx2.
Zoning
mxr
land
use
at
20
units
per
acre
and
was
adjacent
to
rural
land
planning,
board
and
staff
support.
AF
Rmx2
zoning
and
planning
board
was
agnostic
on
the
land
use.
They
agreed
that
something
between
66
and
84
units
was
appropriate.
However,
the
land
use
must
be
mxr
to
achieve
more
than
66
unions,
reducing
density
results
in
both
fewer
middle-income
homes
and
larger
market
rate
homes.
Not
only
does
it
take
many
of
the
middle
income
units
away,
but
it
forces
a
greater
divide
in
the
type
of
homes
and
families
that
will
be
a
part
of
one
community.
AF
If
you
reduce
the
density,
the
impact
on
massing
and
the
experience
of
the
neighborhood
for
those
living
nearby
or
passing
by
will
be
minimal.
The
impact
on
the
quality
of
the
community
and
those
who
live
there
will
be
great
I
know.
You
will
carefully
consider
this
opportunity
to
make
such
a
significant
amount
of
much
needed,
middle-income
housing
a
reality.
Our
architect,
Dan
rottner,
will
now
walk
through
the
proposed
plan
and
we
really
look
forward
to
your
comments.
AE
AE
The
we
have
two
two
elements
of
the
market
rate
component
two-story
units
around
the
perimeter
of
the
project
facing
the
the
north
and
west
two
and
a
half
story,
taller
units
that
face
the
the
right-of-way
at
Jay,
Road
and
28th
Street,
and
also
at
the
at
the
internal
streets
on
the
west
side
of
the
project.
The
middle
income
housing
component
is
the
blue
red
and
dark
gray
and
beige
that
you
see
on
the
on
the
what
easterly
portion
of
the
project.
AE
AE
This
is
a
quick
overview
of
the
overall
diagram
of
the
circulation
open
space
and
parking
elements
of
the
Project.
Blue,
of
course,
is
vehicular
circulation,
28th
Street,
J
Road
at
the
South
and
West,
and
then
this
is
the
existing
right-of-way
easement.
At
the
East
side
of
the
property
that
provides
primary
access
and,
of
course
we
have
an
internal
Loop
and
a
variety
of
internal
Street
fronts
and
drive
aisles
accessing
units
orange
is
our
multi-use
path.
Connection.
AE
Are
also
garages
within
the
units
that
are
in
Illustrated
on
this
talk
about
really
our
goal
was
to
create
a
unique
sense
of
community
and
and
through
a
neighborhood
of
single-family
attached
dwellings,
really
to
not
be
multi-family
buildings,
but
individual
units
within
the
property.
AE
The
neighborhoods
focused
on
owner
occupied
middle-income
housing
not
found
elsewhere
in
Boulder,
we
really
have
a
purposeful
integration
of
incomes
and
family
structures,
as
Margaret
discussed
in
her
intro,
we've
included
flexible
unit
planning
to
allow
for
home
occupations
and
or
multi-generational
housing,
particularly
in
the
two
and
a
half
and
three
Storey
units
where
there's
options
for
potential
home
office,
space
and
so
forth.
At
the
grade
level,
we've
worked
hard
to
provide
as
much
for
sale,
middle
income,
family
housing
as
we
could
on
site
and
create
a
unified
community
in
this
project.
AE
The
other
topic-
that's
important
for
our
project
is
open
space
preservation
and
really
there
are
a
couple
of
pieces
to
this.
You
know
the
project
strives
for
a
higher
utilization
of
open
space
surrounding
the
city,
both
in
the
intent
to
utilize,
Open,
Spaces
Annex
into
the
city
to
meet
the
cities,
middle
income,
housing
needs
and
also,
at
the
same
time,
make
the
best
use
of
open
space
that
is
incorporated
within
the
new
neighborhood.
AE
This
is
actually
a
precedent
example
that
we
refer
to.
This
is
actually
in
California.
It's
and
just
want
to
make
note
of
the
mix
of
two
and
three
story
forms
in
this
open
space
example.
AE
The
other
strategy
we've
employed
is
using
some
of
the
perimeter
spaces
abutting
right
of
way
at
the
west
and
south
boundaries
of
the
property,
we've
tried
hard
to
integrate
water
quality
and
storm
water
management,
features
of
the
project
into
quality,
open
space
and
the
strategy
that
we've
seen
used
successfully
in
the
past.
This
is
actually
example
in
Boulder.
This
is
the
Rosewood
neighborhood
in
North
Boulder,
and
you
can
see
this
is
a
detention
Pond,
but
it
really
doesn't
feel
like
a
piece
of
simple
engineering
it.
AE
It
provides
a
quality
Gathering
space
for
the
neighborhood.
The
other
strategy
we've
used
dependent
upon
the
different
conditions
surrounding
the
site,
is
at
the
west
and
north
frontages,
where
we
have
private
yard
buffer
to
the
adjacent
property.
This
is
a
good
example
of
how
we
envision
this
space
working
and
really
providing
some
Quality
Private
spaces
to
really
help
not
only
buffer
the
surrounding
neighborhood
to
the
project,
but
also
allow
people
to
take
advantage
of
the
more
a
residents
take
advantage
of
the
more
oral
conditions
for
the
project.
AE
You
know,
there's
a
one
of
the
key
elements
to
the
project,
and
you
know
we
see,
is
very
important
to
creating
a
great
neighborhood
as
individual
unit
identity
of
the
street
and
where
we
haven't
been
able
to
front
units
on
the
street
we've
fronted
units
on
on
our
perimeter
open
space
where
it
abuts
the
right-of-way.
This
is
actually
a
good
impressive
example
of
a
similar
approach
where
we've
got
these
obviously
very
much
individual
homes
and
not
one
big
building
with
multiple
units.
AE
One
of
the
challenges
that
was
identified
at
the
perimeter-
and
this
is
a
new
staff
comment-
we
agree-
it's
a
challenge-
is
parking
access
from
the
street.
It
really
is
a
key
element
for
cell
utilization
to
limit
the
amount
of
paved
area
within
the
property.
The
alternative
we've
explored
is
the
cover
ground
level
areas
that
are
suitable
for
parking,
Gathering
playing
tinkering.
They
have
a
multiple
potential
uses
and
here's
a
few
precedent
images
for
how
we
envision
these
spaces
being
ultimately
utilized.
AE
So
they
could
be
parking,
it
could
be
outdoor
use
area
or
a
mix
of
uses
in
these
in
these
spaces.
At
the
perimeter
of
the
project,
another
strategy
that
we've
employed
in
the
design
are
these
the
narrow,
one-way
streets
with
parking
on
both
sides
of
the
street.
Rather
than
a
parking
lot.
We
created
a
street
where
the
the
individual
homes
front
on
they
have
the
each
their
unique
address
and
place
in
the
community
and
again
this
is
something
that's
been
done
in
Boulder.
AE
This
is
Yarmouth
way,
Jason
to
the
holiday
neighborhood,
and
this
is
a
relatively
constrained
site
and
we
developed
all
right
a
this
is
actually
a
program
development
developed
this
Narrow
Street
with
parking,
but
yet
you
can
see
it
does
not
feel
like
an
alley
internally.
It
again
provides
a
Quality
Furniture.
AE
You
know
really
the
one
of
the
key
things
and
just
driving
this
point
home
again:
I'd
hate
to
repeat
the
point,
but
it
is
important.
The
density
really.
AE
Us
to
provide
a
cohesive
neighborhood
at
a
lower
density
in
order
to
achieve
feasibility
for
the
project.
The
market
rate
units
need
to
get
larger.
You
have
fewer
middle
income
units
and
they
tend
to
be
smaller.
It
just
creates
a
more
Stark
divide
within
the
neighborhood
and
kind
of
erodes
some
of
the
principles
that
we
see
employed
so
successfully
the
remodeling
everybody-
and
you
know
we
really
feel
like
the
intent,
the
intent
of
our
proposal.
AE
Our
proposed
approach
really
does
realize
the
intention
of
the
density
bonus
in
rmx
too,
and
provides
that
unified
mix
that
we're
striving
for
and
really
you
know,
while
we
can't
solve
all
the
problems
in
Boulder
with
one
project,
we
do
have
an
opportunity,
in
this
case,
with
unique
circumstances
of
the
project
and
and
this
location
to
to
do
the
right
thing
with
this
opportunity.
So
Morgan
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
to
add
at
this
point,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
city
council
for
your
time.
AE
Considering
the
merits
of
this
project.
I
know
it's.
Your
time
is
very
valuable
and
and
I
know
this
is
it
always
takes
a
lot
out
of
everybody
to
look
at
the
stuff,
Margaret
and
I,
along
with
our
transportation
consultant,
Chris
mcgranahan
are
available
in
the
meeting.
If
you
have
any
questions.
Thank
you
great.
E
E
E
AE
E
Yeah
far
so
I
see
these
two.
Like
these
three
light
green
areas,
do
you
see
them
they're
blocks?
Are
they
representative
of
Park
open
space
like
Community,
Community
areas,
correct.
E
A
E
E
AE
That's
I
would
say
that's
something.
That's
worth
looking
at
to
narrow
the
street
at
that
at
that
intersection
of
the
circulation
spine
and
the
park.
E
E
E
AE
B
V
One
of
the
things
I've
noticed
is
that
it
there
definitely
are
some
units
here
right
that
have
the
garage
pretty
prominently
facing
a
main
street,
or
you
know
you
started
to
touch
on
that
with
you
know,
looking
at
different
ways,
you
could
have
a
park
under
space
instead
of
a
garage
between
that
and
sorry.
AF
V
V
AE
So
it's
always
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
with
these.
You
know:
we've
done
a
bunch
of
these
townhome
subdivisions
over
the
years
and
the
perimeter
of
the
project
is
always
a
challenge
right,
because
what
happens
is
that
to
minimize
the
number
of
streets
you
want
to
make
sure
your
streets
have
units
on
both
sides
running
on
the
street,
I
mean
if
you
have
a
street,
that's
only
serving
one
side
or
even
an
alley.
That's
that's
inherently
inefficient.
AE
AE
Oh,
you
could
run
an
alley
down
the
perimeter
of
the
project,
but
the
you
lose
a
lot
in
that,
if
you
think
about
the
opportunities
for
private
backyard
spaces
for
all
of
these
residences
around
the
perimeter
and
also
the
adjacency
to
the
surrounding
community,
it's
it's
it's
a
pretty
little
bit
of
a
harsh
trade-off,
so
the
the
and-
and
the
other
thing
is-
is
that
everybody,
the
street
and
Alley
scenario-
has
an
element
to
it
where
it
creates
more
street.
AE
Because
if
your
front,
if
you
have
garage
doors,
fronting
a
street,
well,
you
don't
have
an
alley.
You
know
the
I
think
the
trade-off
is.
AE
Is
that
you
don't
need
driveways
to
access
your
front
entered
garages
in
one
scenario,
but
I
think
this
balance
and
finding
the
really
creative
way
of
using
the
perimeter
I
think
it's
it's
the
way
of
getting
maximizing
the
number
of
units
that
have
that
on
on
Street
identity
with
alcohol,
from
which,
so
all
of
these
units,
which
front
on
there
the
internal
Straits
throughout
the
project
and
where
we
do
have
garages
front
aligning
new
streets
here.
These
units
do
have
individual
unit
identity
on
the
adjacent
right-of-way
on
Jay,
Road
and
28th
Street.
AE
So
it's
we
realize
it's
never
perfect,
but
I
think
that
the
strategies
that
we
are
working
to
to
perfect
here
with
your
input,
allow
us
to
kind
of
balance
that
equation
of
of
streets
and
alleys
and
then
well.
We
will
put
we'll
we'll
come
up
with
a
creative
solution
for
street
fighting
part
Street,
fronting
parking
where
we
have
where
it's
the
best
approach
available
from
the
site,
utilization.
B
Right
not
seeing
any
other
questions,
we
can
go
to
the
public
hearing.
We've
got
13
people
sign
up
a
few
in
person
and
most
virtual
each
person
will
get
three
minutes
to
speak.
Hopefully
you
heard
our
guidelines
on
public
participation
earlier
Rachel.
No,
thank
you
well,
I,
guess
at
nine
o'clock
we
we
do
need
to
check
in,
but
we
have
one
agenda
item
we're
in
the
middle
of
so
I'll
just
have
to.
B
AH
AH
Please
I
will
do
my
best
to
speak
into
the
mic.
Thank
you.
So
I
have
a
number
of
concerns
about
this
development.
This
I
I
sent
an
email
about.
This
is
putting
five
pounds
in
a
three
pound
bag.
Okay,
you're
talking
about
way
too
many
units
way
too
little
open
space,
the
the
issue
with
getting
cars
in
and
out,
not
enough
parking.
AH
You
know
just
all
kinds
of
issues:
it's
not
eco-friendly
okay,
so
it
doesn't
mean
what
we're
trying
to
do
here
in
Boulder
County
about
being
green.
It's
not
green!
It's
a
car,
Centric
development,
it's
also
one
where
it's
an
island,
it's
surrounded
on
to
its
North
into
its
East,
by
open
space.
Okay,
people
own
that
land,
it's
private
land,
so
they
are
a
community
unto
themselves.
They
are
an
island.
AH
The
traffic
issues
there
are
Monumental
I
can
tell
you
I
feel
for
the
caros
that
live
down
that
road
that
they
want
to
take
to
use
for
Access
there
they
are
be
completely
screwed.
Okay,
getting
in,
and
out
of
that
thing
is
going
to
be
impossible.
So
this
really
needs
serious
study.
There's
also
issues
with
groundwater.
Neighbors
in
the
area
have
wells
that
are
only
10
feet
deep.
AH
So
if
you
start
Excavating
that
you
mess
up
the
aquifer,
which
could
be
really
easy
to
do,
all
those
people
that
live
around
there
can
be
screwed
in
terms
of
their
water.
So
we've
talked
about
parking.
We've
talked
about
the
open
space
issue,
there's
a
height
issue,
there's
nothing
near
there.
That
is
35
feet
high,
nothing!
Everything
is
one
and
two
story,
so
not
a
big
fan
of
having
My
Views
to
the
West
diminished,
trying
to
look
over
top
of
three
stores
instead
of
two
and
then
also
I
mentioned
the
Ingress
and
egress
issue.
AH
Also
I
think
she's
talked
about
having
Habitat
for
Humanity.
Do
the
work
that's
great?
Have
they
agreed
to
it?
Is
there
a
contract
in
place?
Can
they
afford
it?
How
long
will
it
take?
Are
they
going
to
do
their
stuff,
their
development
in
parallel
with
her
development,
or
is
there
is
going
to
be
later?
In
other
words,
it
may
never
happen.
So
what
can
we
do
to
ensure
that
whatever
happens,
there
is
done
correctly,
not
opposed
to
development?
Just
don't
want
84
units
on
that
corner,
I
bike
that
corner
all
the
time.
AH
It
is
dangerous
as
hell
so
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
look
at
the
traffic
aspect
of
this
very
carefully
and
the
fire
department
should
look
at
it
as
well,
because
with
this
now
alley
that
they're
talking
about
in
there,
how
do
you
get
a
fire
truck
in
there
to
put
out
the
fire
and,
after
the
Marshall
fire,
I'm
nervous
about
this
stuff?
How
do
you
get
84
units
people
out
of
there?
If
there's
a
fire,
they
can't
get
out,
it's
just
not
possible.
AH
X
Okay,
so
my
name
is
Robin.
Cubey
I
am
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
and
my
two
neighbors
Paul
strupp
and
Peggy
Brule,
who
are,
as
Mr
brockachison
said,
are
intending
virtually
I'm
a
long
time.
Boulder
real
estate
and
land
use
attorney
and
I've
lived
near
Jay,
Road
and
28th
Street
for
almost
35
years
and
I've
ridden
my
bike
regularly
along
J
Road.
X
For
all
that
time,
my
significant
interest
in
this
development
has
to
do
with
the
increased
density,
but
not
the
density
per
se,
but
the
impact
that
density
will
have
on
the
traffic
on
J
Road
and
especially
the
intersection
at
28th
Street.
As
the
prior
speaker
noted,
I
got
involved
in
the
original
application
on
this
because
of
my
interest
in
the
safety
and
density
issues
back
at
that
time.
X
In
2015,
the
applicant
was
just
under
contract
to
purchase
the
property
and
she
submitted
a
plan
for
a
mixed-use
development
which
included
a
coffee
shop,
a
daycare
originally
the
90
plus
units
that
ultimately
got
dropped
down
to
66,
affordable
units
with
121
parking
spaces.
Those
units,
the
affordable
ones
were
intended
to
satisfy
the
applicants.
X
The
inclusionary
housing
obligations
for
a
companion
project
she
had
at
IRS
and
Broadway
in
the
earlier
process,
planning
board
and
staff
raised
significant
concerns
regarding
the
Project's
density,
its
incompatibility
with
the
neighborhood,
the
significant
adverse
impact
it
would
have
on
what
was
then
an
overly
burdened,
dangerous
and
generally
neglected
intersection
at
JN
28th
Street.
The
lack
of
imagination
in
the
proposed
design
and
layout
of
what
would
effectively
be
a
Gateway
project
for
the
city
and
the
failure
to
incorporate
renewable
energy
attributes.
As
noted
before
the
applicant
then
withdrew
the
application.
X
In
the
intervening
years,
the
applicant
has
purchased
the
property
at
28th
and
J
the
traffic
I
guess,
in
my
anecdotal
observations,
conflict
with
whatever
traffic
information
she
has,
but
that
intersection
has
only
had
more
traffic
and
has
become
more
dangerous
and
congested,
and
you
need
to
do
almost
every
weekend.
There's
a
new
Pile
in
the
street
of
debris,
from
car
crashes
and
as
a
cyclist.
It's
scarier
than
anything.
The
green
air
or
the
green
striping
is
help.
X
But
now
the
cars
just
race
in
front
of
you
to
try
and
get
by
the
new
project
she's
offering
has
either
84
or
82
units
that
are
going
to
be
for
sale,
only
30,
some
out
of
which
may
be
affordable
and
that's
less
than
half
of
what
she
was
proposing.
The
last
time
around
and
the
Market
units
will
be
sold
for
expect
to
sell
for
a
million
dollars
plus
a
piece.
X
This
increased
density
makes
the
plan
even
less
compatible
with
the
neighborhood
than
the
earlier
one
and,
as
I
noted
before,
will
only
serve
to
increase
traffic.
In
that
regard,
the
parking
has
been
increased
by
45
percent,
which
again
will
just
trap,
add
traffic
to
J
and
28th,
and
the
plan
that
she's
offering
today
does
not
address
the
concerns
that
the
earlier
staff
comments
were
that
she
needed
to
that.
X
The
intersection
of
J
and
28th
needed
to
be
improved
with
a
left
turn
only
lane
a
straight
through
Lane
and
the
existing
right
turn
lane
and,
unfortunately,
I'm
sure
that
she's.
That
is
not
addressed
at
all
in
her
new
plan.
Rather,
the
sole
effort
to
address
the
Jay
Road
issues
is
the
offer
of
a
write-in
right
out.
Access
to
the
property
and
I
have
a
slide
up
there.
That
shows
the
property
in
yellow
with
this
access
road
to
the
right
or
on
the
east
side
of
the
property
and
that
access
road
is
over
private
property.
X
I
think
Matthew
Carrow
will
talk
about
this
later
but,
more
importantly,
the
whole
east
side
of
this
property
has
Frontage
that
will
remain
accessible
to
County,
controlled,
J
Road,
so
how
the
city
can
impose
certain
in
and
out
or
whatever
kind
of
striping
or
whatever
would
be
needed
on
County
property
is
a
question
to
me
and
the
design.
Can
you
show
the
second
slide?
Please,
the
design
of
the
property
anticipates
that
the
entirety
of
that
road
will
be
used
as
part
of
this
project,
even
though
that
is
not
part
of
the
applicant's
property.
X
X
AG
Sorry
I'd
like
to
start
by
saying:
I'm,
not
anti-development
and
I,
do
believe
that
we
need
to
have
more
housing
that
is
Affordable
for
Middle
income.
However,
six
years
ago,
Fulton
Hill
properties
present
an
almost
identical
concept
to
the
city
at
this
very
location
for
94
units.
The
feedback
given
at
that
time
was
that
no
more
than
66
units
could
be
considered.
AG
Six
years
later,
the
developers
only
deleted
10
units
and
now
that
they
want
to
raise
them.
Three
stories
high
versus
two
stories
high
in
2017,
the
property
was
owned
by
the
pastor
of
The
Seventh-Day
Adventist
Church
davalba
has
since
purchased
the
brand,
with
full
confidence
that
she
can
influence
the
City
by
giving
her
multiple,
except
in
fluency,
to
giving
her
multiple
exceptions.
If
the
carrot
of
affordable
housing
is
offered
I'm
concerned
about
the
density
of
this
proposed
on
what
it
already
is
already
a
very
complex
intersection.
AG
First,
let's
address
the
safety
issues.
Jay
Road
is
the
most
biked
Road
in
Boulder.
There
are
a
number
of
annual
biking
and
Triathlon
events
that
use
this
route
because
of
the
proximity
to
the
reservoir.
As
a
result,
there
are
no.
There
are
numerous
recreational
cyclists
athletes
as
well
as
regular
commuters
that
use
this
stretch
daily.
AG
Sadly,
it
is
all
it
also
has
a
history
of
several
deaths
caused
by
vehicular
impact.
Both
pedestrians,
as
well
as
bikers
the
proposed
site,
is
at
the
intersection
of
two
very
busy
two-lane
roads,
J
and
28th
Street,
there's
also
a
bus.
Stop
that
blocks
traffic
and
cyclists
in
the
right
turn
lane
at
the
intersection
on
the
east
side
of
the
property,
there's
a
small
private
dirt
road
that
is
maintained
by
the
neighbors
who
live
along
there.
AG
AG
There
is
no
easy
walkable
access
to
shopping
parts
or
schools,
public
transport
is
very
limited.
This
will
be
basically
a
vehicle
heavy
Community,
with
no
street
parking
allowed
on
G
and
28..
Let's
talk
about
the
environmental
impact
majority
of
Green
Space
proposed
borders
that
green
space
proposed
borders,
J
and
28th.
There
was
a
mansion
that
you
loved
the
green
space,
that
green
space
is
on
two
busy
roads,
and
most
of
that
is
Eastman
anyway.
AG
N
B
B
Please
do
thank
you
Paulina
last
in-person,
speaker,
Daniel,
banjo,.
AI
Good
evening
my
name
is
Dan
banjo
I'm,
a
resident
at
2807,
J,
Road
I've
resided
in
Boulder,
since
2007
I
moved
here,
because
I'm,
a
cyclist
I
am
the
guy
that
maintains
the
private
dirt
road.
With
a
39
horsepower
tractor,
we
live
on
Seven
Acres
I
have
sent
a
a
list
of
detailed
concerns
to
the
council
via
email
I'm
not
going
to
rehash
those.
Some
of
those
were
brought
up
by
others
before
me.
AI
I
should
note
that
we
do
not
oppose
Redevelopment
of
this
property.
Nor
do
we
oppose
the
city's
desire
and
need
for
affordable
and
middle-income
housing.
What
we're
looking
at
here,
though,
is
a
round
Peg
and
a
square
hole.
You've
already
heard
all
the
compromises
that
the
developers
had
to
make
to
try
to
make
this
happen.
AI
Private
streets,
three
stories
questionable
parking,
Etc,
that's
just
kind
of
smelling
like
it's,
not
the
right
time
or
the
right
fit,
especially
given
the
fact
that
the
2025
planning,
Reserve
phase
3
plan
is
coming
before
us
that
has
hundreds
of
acres
under
consideration
for
development.
So
if
you
want
to
put
these
type
of
properties,
you
have
acres
and
acres
to
do
it
right
during
the
the
planning
boards
review
Mark,
who
I
think
sits
on
it.
Who
is
a
traffic
engineer?
I
believe
said
that
the
city
owns
the
rights
to
that
intersection.
AI
So
if
they
really
wanted
to
put
a
piece
of
property
there
that
had
to
exit
300
cars,
then
you
didn't
put
a
traffic
circle
there
or
something
that
could
safely
accommodate
those.
Many
people
that
many
people
and,
in
fact,
the
day
that
the
planning
board
heard
this
application.
There
was
a
pedestrian
hit
on
J
root.
There's
been
multiple
cyclists
killed
on
Jay
road,
so
we
can't
just
Jam
this
there
and
not
expect
that
there's
going
to
be
unintended
negative
consequences,
if
we
don't
think
about
doing
it
right.
AI
So
our
desire
isn't
to
have
this
to
be
a
not
my
backyard
situation.
We're
looking
at
this
as
our
property
included.
Being
part
of
the
planning
Reserve
review
in
the
coming
years,
which
has
already
started
I,
believe
they've
already
started
the
the
utility
study
for
that
area
so
trying
to
Railroad
this
through
in
the
last
minute.
AI
K
B
O
Well,
it
seems
like
you
could
do
the
same
thing
on
this
place
as
22nd
and
pearl.
It's
like
a
bedroom
community
and
like
22nd
and
pearl,
but
there
could
still
be
a
real
conversion
from
Cars.
There
could
be
like
a
few
cars
that
this
community
has
to
use
for
big
trips
or
large
trips.
Why
should
it
be
any
different
than
the
place
on
22
Pearl?
O
O
Until
there
is
a
jobs,
housing
balance,
we
don't
have
it
the
and
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
I
think
incorporates
job
housing,
balance
and
infill
based
on
that,
but
not
just
infill,
because
the
more
jobs,
the
more
housing,
the
more
housing,
the
more
services,
the
more
services,
the
more
demand
for
housing
and
it's
a
cycle
of
Despair-
and
this
is
just
too
much
growth.
My
dad
moved
to
Boulder
to
get
away
from
New
York
City
not
to
come
to
New
York
City.
So
why
are
we
developing
this
way?
O
Why
are
these
kind
people
that
are
devising
these
developments
allowed
to
until
we
have
a
jobs?
Housing
balance,
it's
very
simple.
Otherwise
this
is
just
growth
for
the
sake
of
growth
until
the
whole
thing
collapses,
because
growth
doesn't
just
pay
for
itself,
you
have
to
consider
all
the
infrastructure.
It's
like
Rock
Creek
built
years
ago.
You
know
they
just
stuck
it
there
and
then
they
found
out
all
the
all
the
things
that
you
have
to
do
that
the
the
place
needs
this
place
doesn't
have
any
services,
but
it's
going
to
demand
plenty.
O
O
K
AJ
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
my
name
is
Matthew
carrot.
My
wife
and
I
moved
to
Boulder
in
2000
we
lived
in
the
city,
we
started
family.
We
moved
out
to
2825
Jay
Road
since
2006.
we
moved
here
for
the
rural
Field,
open
space
and
a
proximity
to
the
city.
The
developer
brought
essentially
the
same
proposal
in
2015
and
2016..
There
were
significant
problems
with
the
proposal
then,
and
those
issues
have
not
changed.
There
have
been
no
real
alterations
in
a
proposed
in
relation
to
the
issues
brought
up
back
in
2015
and
2016..
AJ
This
property
borders
Area
3
land
that
is
privately
owned.
We
do
expect
there'll
be
development
in
this
area.
This
should
be
done
in
a
comprehensive
fashion,
so
that
Land
north
of
U.S
36
is
not
a
hodgepodge
of
poorly
designed
developments.
Even
plan
bouldering.
Their
letter
dated
December
6
2022,
recommends
this
development
be
part
of
the
bvcp
in
2025,
so
the
site
can
be
integrated
into
the
vision
for
the
area.
AJ
Maybe
the
question
that
was
asked
by
the
city
planning
board
should
not
be
about
density
about
land
use
chain
from
public
to
residential.
Currently,
a
church
is
on
this
property
and
clearly
serves
a
very
important
public
service.
Members
of
the
planning
board
had
reservations
about
this
project,
such
as
not
adhering
to
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
being
a
major
land
use,
change
and
moving
ahead
needs
to
be
in
the
right
way,
and
they
come
in.
AJ
This
was
essentially
a
gated
community
that
did
not
interact
with
this
surrounding
neighborhood
and
required
cars
to
get
back
and
forth.
Other
members
were
only
concerned
with
housing
and
stated
since
they're
behind
the
curve
and
housing
they
need
to
catch
up.
Annexation
is
the
discretionary
act
by
the
city,
and
annexation
should
not
be
taken
lightly
and
should
get
formed
to
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan,
quoting
the
bbcp
1.17
D
annexation
of
existing
substantially
developed
areas
will
be
offered
in
a
manner
and
on
terms
and
conditions
that
respect
existing
lifestyle
and
densities.
AJ
This
proposal
doesn't
either
this
proposed
development
also
goes
against
almost
all
of
the
BCC
goals,
except
for
housing.
You
can
look
on
pages
307-309
of
the
packet
with
the
conflicts
with
bug
Valley
comprehensive
plan.
This
proposed
development
also
goes
against
Vision
zero
goals
for
Boulder,
the
intersection
of
J
and
28th
is
very
dangerous.
Adding
over
450
automobile
trips
from
the
development
will
exacerbate
an
already
dangerous
Corner.
In
summary,
I
feel
this
is
not
appropriate
use
of
this
site.
Is
it
the
wrong
density
wrong
place
wrong
time?
AJ
Current
infrastructure
is
not
sufficient
to
support
the
prose
density.
The
site
plan
does
not
integrate
with
any
surrounding
public
or
private
property.
I
believe
rezoning.
This
site
will
have
a
negative
impact
in
the
surrounding
community
and
the
adjacent
Area
3
planning
reserve.
It
does
not
conform
with
many
policies
to
build
Raleigh
comp
plan.
This
is
not
an
enclave
with
the
city,
and
annexation
is
not
akin
to
infill
development
in
the
city.
Annexation
of
this
site
should
be
coordinated
with
a
larger
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan.
AJ
Three
planning
Reserve
as
a
site,
is
in
a
unique
location,
surrounded
by
Area
3
on
the
Northern
edge
of
the
city.
It's
a
time
to
discuss
annexation
of
this
property
and
change
Amy
land
use
own
is
when
the
bbcp
is
updated
to
include
era,
3
planning,
reserve
and
land
surrounding
this
site,
as
I've
been
mentioned
before,
the
current
plan
calls
for
use
of
our
private
property
for
Ingress
and
egress
to
this
site.
We
will
not
allow
our
use
of
our
private
property
for
this
development.
AK
AK
I
do
hope
that
the
council
will
heed
the
prior
and
current
status
analysis
and
signal
to
the
developer
that
the
requested
mxr
land
use
and
the
open
zoning
to
rmx2
is
not
appropriate
for
this
site
maximizing
allowable
far
to
increase
the
return
to
the
developer
and
her
investors
is
not
reason
to
Annex
Land
from
the
county
and
then
the
process
destroy
an
existing
neighborhood
and
Community
Gathering
site.
That's
currently
provided
by
City
Church.
AK
2801
J
Road
sits
in
area
2,
but
is
surrounded
on
three
sides
by
privately
held
land
all
within
the
planning
Reserve
during
the
prior
application
process.
In
2016,
we
learned
that
this
parcel,
despite
being
surrounded
by
the
planning
Reserve,
was
designated
as
area
2
only
due
to
its
destination
as
a
public
land
use.
AK
So
therefore
reassigning
any
land
use
or
zoning
first
needs
to
consider
the
impacts
on
the
planning
Reserve.
As
this
person
most
likely
would
have
been
part
of
the
reserve,
it
had
not
been
for
the
public,
designation
and
so
at.
The
timing
here
is
actually
pretty
perfect.
The
city's
signaled
that
it
is
going
to
move
forward
with
a
Services
study
as
a
first
step,
opening
up
the
planning
Reserve
in
the
upcoming
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
updates
and
now
from
a
planning
perspective.
AK
It
doesn't
really
seem
to
make
sense
to
push
approval
of
this
proposed
development
just
prior
to
the
start
of
that.
Comp
plan
update
doing
so
well
at
a
minimum
end
up
with
a
poorly
planned
housing
project
that
creates
traffic
and
safety
issues
and
lacks
Conformity
over
the
surrounding
area.
But
worst
case
is
you've
now
set
the
precedent
for
what
the
planning
Reserve
is
going
to
become,
and
in
doing
so,
you
risk
subverting
the
entire
comp
plan
process.
AK
Instead,
the
city
should
take
a
forward-looking
strategy
to
this
proposed
development
by
incorporating
it
to
the
broader
planning
process
for
the
planning
reserve
and
allowing
the
community
to
weigh
in
through
the
Boulder
Valley
comp
plan
update
to
help
shape
a
development
that
supports
the
affordable
housing
goal
without
jeopardizing
and
detracting
from
equally
urgent
needs
that
include
safety,
transportation
and,
above
all,
climate.
Thanks
for
your
time,.
AL
Here
we
go,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
all
right,
don't
create
a
traffic
nightmare
here
that
the
sake
of
trying
to
create
more
affordable
housing,
let's
not
put
the
residence
in
a
torturous
situation,
causing
more
frustration
and
road
rage.
AL
We
would
hope
city,
council
and
City
folder
planning
department
would
have
the
wisdom
to
really
look
into
the
major
traffic
nightmare.
This
would
have
with
the
entrance
so
extremely
close
to
the
intersection.
This
needs
to
be
looked
at
Hands-On
eyes
on
during
heavy
traffic
rush
hours,
while
thinking
of
even
just
adding
60,
plus
more
Vehicles
trying
to
enter
or
exit
this
area
say
what
you
will.
Traffic
will
only
increase
in
time.
We've
seen
it
with
this
entrance
so
close
to
the
intersection.
This
would
not
even
be
a
good
location
for
a
low
density
development.
AL
AL
AM
AM
Council
Megan
Coles
at
17th
in
Mapleton,
I'm,
so
happy
about
the
questions
that
I
heard
from
Tara
and
Lauren
about
this
project
at
the
beginning,
because
that's
exactly
the
type
of
thinking
that
you
should
bring
to
a
project
on
concept
review
and
it's
really
nice
to
see
that
this
development
is
giving
us
what
we
want.
What
we
have
said,
we
want
84
for
sale,
units
of
which
34
are
permanently
affordable
for
sale,
middle
income
units.
AM
AM
If
the
developer
brings
back
a
well-executed
plan
on
site
review,
the
planning
board
failed
to
wholeheartedly
endorse
this
plan
because
of
the
complaints
from
adjacent
Neighbors
about
the
things
that
adjacent
wealthy
homeowners
always
complain
about
in
opposition
to
housing,
the
height,
the
density,
the
traffic,
the
parking,
the
compatibility
with
the
neighborhood
here
is
a
quote
from
what
one
of
them
said
at
the
planning
board
hearing,
but
which
really
deserves
to
be
called
to
refrain
because
we
hear
it
in
every
project.
Proposing
significant,
affordable
housing
quote
a
great
project,
but
not
here.
AM
You
should
not
have
to
do
this
counsel
to
call
up
every
concept
review,
because
planning
board's
three
longest
serving
members
object
to
any
density.
That
is
not
the
same
as
adjacent
Neighbors,
and
yet
that's
what
you
have
had
to
do
here,
just
as
you
did
on
water
view
on
diagonal
Plaza
with
Celestial
Seasonings
and
with
papillio.
AM
AM
AM
K
Q
Have
two
I'm,
just
gonna
return
to
one
of
my
earlier
questions
about
the
referral
to
tab.
We
heard
so
much
tonight
about
cyclist
safety
and
kind
of
a
car-centric
development
being
on
an
island.
Q
If,
if
relevant
is
one
question
and
then
the
second
is
way
off
topic
here,
but
I
was
just
looking
at
the
map
and
it
occurred
to
me
I
I'm,
not
a
big
gun
person,
we'll
probably
surprise
no
one,
but
this
is
very
it's
about
a
mile
away
from
the
rifle
range
I
just
want
to
know
is
that
well
you
hear
gunshots
at
that
distance,
and-
and
would
we
should
the
applicant
consider
maybe
some
noise
mitigation
measures
as
part
of
this
project?
If
so,.
Q
I,
maybe
I'll
turn
to
my
colleague,
Matt
Benjamin.
Is
that
can
you
hear
gunshots
from
a
mile
away,
so
I
mean
I?
Think
there's
right
now:
it's
it's
a
there's,
nothing
else
built
between
the
rifle
range
and
where
this
would
be
going
so
just
in
in
out
of.
What's
up
sorry,
it's
fine,
no,
not
much
between
so
I
I.
Don't
think
that
we
would
want
to.
You
know,
set
people
up
for
a
lot
of
noise
pollution
if
it
were
preventable.
AN
AN
B
I
just
follow
the
the
wins
are
different,
but
I
live
closer
to
the
Rifle
Club
than
this
development.
You
do
not
actually
hear
the
the
gunshots
from
that
you
do
from
the
the
skeet
shooting
at
the
American
Legion,
but
not
from
the
gun
club,
at
least
in
my
location,
but
not
doesn't
mean
we
shouldn't,
look
at
it.
Well,.
Q
AN
That
absorbs
I,
don't
know
just
to
respond
unless
you
wanted
to
untap
or
if
we
can
take.
We
can
take
terms
on
that.
One
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
recognize
is
to
have
that
very
quickly
wants
to
know,
details
about
volume
and
geometry
and
other
things
that
come
with
this
traffic
study,
and
we
don't
have
that
at
this
point,
the
the
actual
entryway
is
fairly
limited
just
by
the
nature
of
the
the
site
and
the
existing
Road
Network.
Q
AN
K
F
G
So
it's
really
kind
of
a
follow-up
with
with
Rachel
a
little
bit
and
then
I
have
a
separate
question
of
it
seems
like
they're
I'm
hearing
that
there
might
be
some
conflict
or
reconciliation
with
regards
to
the
development
requiring
private
property
access
for
Ingress
or
egress
and
I'm
just
trying
to
wonder
what,
where
where's
the
truth
in
that
I
don't
know.
But
but
that
seems
like
a
very
obvious
conflict
if
that's
indeed
true
so
I
just
want
to
get
some
clarity
on
what
that
is
and
how
that
is.
G
Or
is
it
impacting
the
plans
on
this.
AN
A
AD
I
think
I
think
at
this
time
you
know
the
questions
that
are
being
raised
are
a
question
of
legal
access,
and
so
we
would
need
to
review
that.
You
know
carefully
at
the
time
of
site
review.
AD
I
would
say
that,
typically,
when
we're
looking
at
projects
that
are
in
the
county
and
are
being
proposed
to
be
annexed
a
lot
of
times,
those
do
have
questions
of
legal
access
that
we
need
to
look
carefully
at
when
it
when
it
comes
in
for
annexation
and
site
review.
So
that
would
most
likely
be
the
time
when
we'd
be
able
to
really
go
through
those
documents
and
determine
that.
G
I
I
appreciate
that
I
just
wonder
that
at
site
review
we
might
that
that
might
force
a
completely
different
concept
and
so
I
wonder
if
there's
some
understanding
of
that
before
we
get
to
that
stage.
So
we
have
some
sense
of
what
our
expectations
are
going
in,
based
on
what
we're
looking
at
from
concept
to
get
to
site
and
if
something
like
that
becomes
a
non-starter
or
fundamentally
changes
the
project
that
becomes
something
that
I
think.
G
And
we
appreciate
that
my
second
question
has
to
kind
of
do
with
the
planning
reserve
and
timing.
How
I
mean
I
know
we're
doing
the
Baseline
Urban
studies?
How
far
out
do
you
think
we
are
until
we're
in
a
process
of
maybe
developing
and
starting
to?
Actually,
you
know,
create
a
housing
and
built
environment
on
the
planning,
Reserve,
so
I'm,
just
thinking
of
just
timing?
How
far
out
is
that
if
you
envision,
assuming
we
do
our
part
in
bottleneck
things.
AN
Yeah
I
I
would
say
it.
It
could
very
well
be
quite
quite
a
ways
out
I
mean
even
if
the
infrastructure
study
and
demand
studies
that
were
a
part
of
what's
what's
being
envisioned
in
in
the
short
term
here
showed
you
know
relatively
few
issues,
then
you've
got
the
capital
planning
for
actual
infrastructure
out
there,
which
is
really
the
motivation
for
that
study.
And
then
you
have
private
development
that
then
comes
along
and
says:
well
we're
ready
to
do
that.
G
B
W
Thank
you.
I've
just
got
a
few
questions,
so
some
of
the
commenters
were
noting
how
this
was
the
same
plan
that
had
been
brought
before,
but
I
thought
I
heard
that
these
units
are
for
sale
and
the
previous
plan
was
for
renters
so
or
for
rental.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
somebody
could
clarify
that
may
have
just
misheard.
AD
Yeah
I
was
I,
did
not
I
was
not
the
Planner.
On
the
previous
plan,
when
I
looked
at
the
files,
I
believe
the
previous
concept
plan
had.
It
was
four
sort
of
larger
buildings
that
were
more
apartment
style
in
nature.
That's
my
recollection
of
what
it
was
so
okay.
AD
Yeah
for
sure
this
one,
like
many
of
the
ones
we
get
when
it's
an
annexation
or
changes
to
to
you,
know
roads
that
have
to
do
with
the
county.
Typically,
we
would
refer
the
application
to
them
and
work
with
them
pretty
closely
on
a
staff
level
to
determine
you
know
what
their
understanding
of.
L
AD
W
Thank
you
and
then
the
other
thing
I
was
wondering
about
was
regarding
the
traffic
study
that
I
think
was
just
recently
completed
in
January
I.
Think
the
previous
one
said
it
was
completed
in
May
and
I
was
just
wondering
about
how
how
comparable
those
two
are,
at
least
for
me.
What
I
perceive
is
that,
when
I'm
driving
north
on
28th
around
that
area,
it
is
heavier
in
May
than
in
January,
with
both
bikes
and
and
cars,
and
things
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
could
speak
to
that.
AD
Yeah
I
think
the
the
study
that
the
developer
referenced
from
January
I,
don't
believe
that
was
part
of
our
review,
so
I,
don't
think
we've
seen
it
so
I
I
think
they
do
have
their
folks
here.
If
they
want
to
address
that
question.
W
And
then
my
other
question
was
just
to
clarify
the
relationship
with
habitats.
They
heard
a
little
bit
of
concern
that
habitat
might
pull
out
or
not
actually
participate
in
building
some
of
these
affordable
for
sale
homes.
But
it
sounds
like
we
have
a
letter
of
support
from
habitat
in
with
all
this
too.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
somebody
could
speak
to
what
that
means,
to
have
a
letter
of
support.
AO
Good
evening
Council
Kurt
fernhawbert,
director
of
housing,
human
services,
so
that's
preliminary,
just
like
this
concept
plan
is
and
so
I
know.
They've
been
having
discussions
with
habitat.
I
also
know
that
the
the
architect
has
laid
out
the
the
development
and
the
the
plans
as
such,
so
they
would
be
comparable
to
what's
being
anticipated
out
of
the
modular
home
Factory.
AO
So
there's
a
very
there's
a
overlap
there
with
that.
With
that
approach,
I
can't
speak
for
how
how
committed
habitat
is,
but
I
knew
I
know
they've
been
in
discussions
with
the
developer
on
this.
B
Great
so
I
had
a
question
which
was
to
what
extent
the
this
development
could
be
required
to
make
some
improvements
to
the
28th
and
J
intersection
and
I
know.
Generally.
My
understanding
from
a
legal
perspective
is
that
you
could
only
require
a
developer
to
make
changes
that
are
required
specifically
because
of
their
you
know
their
development
and
not
to
account
for
other
off-site
impacts.
But
would
this
potentially
Merit
be
a
high
enough
level
of
impact
that
we
could
say
hey?
You
should
do
a
raised
Crossing
at
J
or
some
additional
bike.
R
Well,
I'll
give
it
a
whirl,
but
I
think
that
that
would
be
something
that
could
be
discussed
with
developer
and
certainly,
if
that's
something
that
they
can
do,
they
they
can
agree
to
it.
I
don't
know
what
the
ramifications
would
be
in
terms
of
working
with
like,
for
example,
the
county
or
whatever
needs
to
be
done
there,
but
that
certainly
could
be
discussed
at
a
later
point.
AN
And
I
would
just
add
to
that
that
you
know
the
caveat
on
something
like
a
specific
Improvement
like
pedestrian
Crossing.
If
there's
not
a
Nexus
to
this
to
your
point,
then
it
may
not
be
able
to
be
required.
That's
when
we
get
into
the
asking
kind
of
scenario,
but
certainly
if
there
are
off-site
impacts
that
can
be
directly
attributable
to
that
we
can
do
exactions
of
a
a
number
of
of
things,
including
intersection
nearby
intersection
improvements,
turn
Lanes
Crossing.
AD
So
the
way
that
the
parking
was
shown
on
the
plan
there
was
yeah,
like
you
said,
120
I,
believe
that
were
provided
on
the
individual
lots
and
then
there
was
about
50
that
were
in
the
proposed
private
streets.
Typically,
we
wouldn't
count
on
street
parking
on
on
our
public
streets
toward
the
minimum
parking
requirements.
AD
But
yes,
you're
correct
that
that
was
what
the
calculation
showed
is
that
it
was
over
by
by
50.
If
you
were
to
count
up
all
the
parking
spaces
that
were
provided.
AD
For
our
for
our
public
streets,
we,
you
know
they're,
just
they're,
just
public
streets
where
anyone
can
park.
So
we
that's
why
we
don't
count
the
parking
toward
our
minimum
requirements
generally.
Thank.
V
B
All
right
could
we
get
the
key
issues
up
please
to
framework
Council
discussion
and
I'll
just
remind
my
colleagues
who
are
not
making
any
decisions
here,
we're
giving
feedback
for
the
applicant
to
that
they
can
incorporate
as
they
move
towards
site
review.
So
it's
open-ended
comments,
but
with
an
eye
towards
creating
a
potential
project
that
might
comply
with
the
criteria.
AD
AG
B
I'll,
just
read
them
real,
quick
and
then
we'll
go
through
them
one
at
a
time.
Well,
I
might
combine
these
a
little
bit,
but
so
is
the
proposed
land
use
designation
of
mixed
density
residential
appropriate.
Is
there
proposed
initial
zoning
of
rmx2
residential
mixed
use,
2
appropriate
as
the
proposed
conceptual
plan
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
area
and
finally,
feedback
on
any
other
topics
in
general
for
the
development?
B
So
what
we
might
start
with
is
I
actually
would
start
with
number
three,
if
you
all
don't
mind,
because
it's
kind
of
a
broader
issue
that
can
then
follow
from
that
to
answer
some
of
the
other
questions.
B
So
if
maybe
people
would
like
to
weigh
in
on
kind
of
their
overall
compatibility
of
the
of
the
plan,
yeah.
G
So
this
is
a
unique
environment,
because
it's
not
just
what
the
surrounding
area
is
per
se,
it's
what
we
intend
to
make
it
with
regards
to
area
three,
and
so
I
see
this
property
not
just
for
what
it
is
and
what's
currently
surrounding
it,
but
what
our
intent
is
for
the
500
acres
to
the
North
and
the
east
of
it
and
to
some
extent,
to
the
yeah
to
the
Northwest,
so
in
in
light
of
what
we're
likely
going
to
be
doing
with
area
three
and
I'm
going
to
hold
Brad
to
those
timetables,
no
I'm
just
kidding,
he
said
it.
G
He
said
the
numbers,
I
I,
think
yes,
I
mean
it
meets,
not
just
where
we're
going,
but
our
larger
housing
and
needs
it.
I
think
this
does
go
in
that
direction.
So
I
think
that
it
definitely
goes
in
that
place.
K
E
I
mean
this
is
what
we've
been
asking
for:
we've
been
asking
for
home
ownership
for
Middle
income,
we've
been
asked
and
for
upper
even
for
upper
middle
income
honestly,
and
so
what
somebody
mentioned
million
dollars
will
in
Boulder.
That
is
like
not
a
bad
thing
anymore,
so
between
the
middle
and
the
upper
middle,
it
is
exciting
not
only
that
it's
family
oriented
this
three,
a
lot
of
three
bedroom
units.
What
we've
been
asking
for-
and
it
has
a
community
feel
so
I-
think
I,
don't
know
how
popular
holiday
was
when
the
initial
discussions
went
out.
E
But
now
it's
the
most
talked
about
place
like
wow.
You
live
in
Holiday,
wow
I
wish
I
did
just
because
it's
the
truth.
So
to
me
it's
creating
another.
You
know
year,
2023
or
whenever
it
gets
built
holiday
too,
so
to
speak,
just
with
a
few
differences.
So
for
me
it's
very
exciting.
I
had
the
opportunity
to
listen
to
Governor
polis's
speech
this
weekend
and
it
was
I.
I
was
really
very
excited
about
it.
I
would
say
inspired,
which
is
something
I'm
not
usually
right,
so
always
worried
about
unintended
consequences.
E
But
in
this
time,
at
this
time,
I
am
inspired
because
in
this
time
in
Colorado
right
now
we
need
desperately
housing,
and
this
seems
like
I'm
to
me,
28th
and
J.
It's
I
understand
what
the
community
is
coming
from,
but
it's
it's
a
really
good
place
to
start.
Like
Matt
said
we
are
going
to
be
starting
to
develop
this
area,
so
I
have
to
say
that
to
me
this
is
an
exciting
concept.
AC
Just
pick
out
piggyback
on
what
Madden
and
to
have
already
said,
I
mean
this
is
exactly
what
we
are
looking
for.
Exactly
I
mean
I,
don't
know
that
if
we
sat
in
the
nine
of
a
sat
in
a
room,
this
is
what
we
would.
We
would
create.
The
only
complaint
I
heard
tonight
was
it's
in
the
wrong
place
and
I,
don't
know
what
the
right
place
is.
I
mean
we
have
a
limited
number
of
of
parcels
of
land
available
to
us.
AC
We
may
have
access
to
some
of
the
land
to
the
north,
as
Matt
pointed
out
in
a
few
years,
but
it's
gonna
be
a
few
years,
probably
more
than
five
to
seven.
So
this
is
this
is
the
this?
Is
the
ideal
development
in
every
way,
shape
and
form
as
far
as
open
space
as
far
as
height
as
far
as
number
of
bedrooms,
as
far
as
affordability
of
units,
affordability
of
of
both
deed,
restricted
and
non-drestricted?
AC
So
this
is
exactly
what
we've
been
asking
for
and
if
we
turn
this
one
down,
I
don't
know
what
else
could
come
to
us
that
would
that
would
we'd
want
would
like.
So
this
is,
this
is
the
right
thing.
I
I
know,
there's
concerns
about
impact
on
traffic.
Those
are
things
that
I
think
can
be
addressed
and
looked
into
when
we
get
to
site
review
and
we
can
have
you
know
TDM
done,
we
can
have
transportation.
Look
at
this.
AC
Perhaps
there's
some
exactions
as
Aaron
suggested
around
traffic
to
make
sure
that
that
the
impacts
on
the
existing
neighborhoods
is
is
minimized
and
also
the
people
that
would
live
in
this
new
development
can
live
there,
we're
going
to
have
to
deal
with
traffic
up
and
down
28th
street
because
we're
looking
we're
talking
about
this
is
you
know
this
is
84
units
we're
talking
about
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
units
up
and
down
28,
so
this
is.
AC
This
will
be
the
first
step
in
what
will
be
a
multiple
step
process,
as
we
kind
of
develop
this
whole
area
over
the
next
decade
or
so
so
I'm,
very
supportive
of
it.
I
have
actually
no
negative
comments
to
to
offer
to
the
developer.
I'm
sorry
I
wish
I
could
offer
something
constructive,
but
they've
already
been
said.
V
Thank
you,
yeah
I
think
when
we're
talking
about
whether
the
conceptual
plan
is
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
surrounding
area,
we're
not
only
talking
about
like
Matt
said,
what's
there,
but
what's
going
to
be
there,
but
also
how
this
site
will
be
redeveloped,
because
it
is
not
going
to
remain
as
it
currently
is,
and
so
you
know
the
different
kinds
of
Redevelopment
that
we
could
possibly
see
there.
I
think
that
this
is
more
compatible
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
with
the
future
use
of
this
area,
then
pretty
much
anything
else.
I
could
imagine.
K
B
I'll
call
myself,
then
and
and
generally
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
I
think
this
is,
you
know,
moving
us
in
a
positive
direction.
I
think
it's
a
positive
development
I'll
mention
that
when
holiday
was
started
20
years
ago,
it
was
that
at
the
edge
of
the
city
at
the
time
and
was
surrounded
by
much
more
rural,
smaller
parcel,
smaller
Building,
Development
and
and
there,
and
so
it
stuck
out
a
bit
at
the
time,
but
became
a
very
successful
development.
B
So
you
know
the
traffic
study
will
be
important
because
I
think
that's
the
one
area
of
concern
in
terms
of
compatibility
with
the
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
but
I
think
the
travel
will
find
that
the
traffic
study
you
know
says
that
the
the
roads
can
handle
it.
Just
fine.
The
the
one
thing
I
would
say
is
that
I
would
want
to
look
at
closely.
B
Is
the
the
bike
ped
Ingress
and
egress,
because
I
think
there
are
some
safety
concerns
there,
and
so
I
really
would
like
us
to
look
at
the
possibility
of
making
improvements
to
the
intersection
of
Jade
and
28th
as
part
of
this
development
to
increase
the
ability,
particularly
bikes
to
because
once
you
get
across
that
intersection,
you
have
a
pretty
good
bike
safety
routes
in
through
the
rest
of
town,
so
I
think
if
we
can
improve
the
safety
going
across
there
for
the
residents
of
this
new
place,
but
it
also
would
benefit
some
of
the
others,
but
I
think
the
residents
there's
enough
of
a
Nexus
I
think
to
justify
that.
B
You
know
for
sale,
housing
I
think
it's
moving
in
the
right
direction
for
sure
so,
I'm
supportive
as
well
other
thoughts.
We
don't
all
have
to
say
all
the
words
yeah
well
I
will
in
just
a
second.
So,
if
nothing
else
on
three
actually,
then
what
I
would
turn
to
is
say:
I
just
heard
General
support.
So
are
we
okay
with
one
and
two
with
the
proposed
land
use,
designations
and
initial
zoning?
B
Okay,
good
and
the
art
I'm
I'll,
just
have
to
say
I'm.
A
big
fan
of
rmx2
has
that
affordable
housing
density
bonus
that
gets
you
to
that
kind
of
holiday
level
of
density.
When
you
have
included
on-site
affordable,
which
we're
always
looking
for
which
we
rarely
get
but
is
present
here
in
this
proposal,
so
then
what
I
would
say
is
then
the
the
wrap
up
would
be
feedback
of
any
other
kind
about
the
development
in
in
the
item
number
four.
W
Thank
you.
I
just
had
a
couple,
I
really
loved
the
flexible
parking
spaces
that
could
be
used
as
other
things
like
little
patios
or
other
kind
of
spaces
Outdoors.
So
that
was
really
cool
and
I
would
love
to
continue
seeing
that
that
also
made
me
think
about
some
of
the
stuff
we've
been
doing
with
thinking
about
straces,
public
spaces
and
parklets,
and
all
that
kind
of
thing.
W
So
you
know,
given
that
I
hear
that
car
traffic
is
one
of
the
bigger
concerns
and
that
that
intersection
is
also
a
little
terrifying
in
a
bike
or
a
car
you
know
can,
can
we
think
about
that?
W
Can
we
think
about
lowering
some
of
the
parking
that
is
there,
giving
people
the
option
of
using
even
some
of
the
the
streets,
those
little
just
little
parklets
or
little
spaces
that
they
could
have
some
extra
space
there
bring
in
you
know
some
more
open
space
and
community
so
anyway,
just
something
something
that
I
think
about,
but
I
really
love.
That
idea.
AJ
Q
Just
formalize
I
guess
my
feedback
that
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
to
study
whether
you
can
hear
the
gunshots
and
mitigate
that
noise,
because
I
don't
think
we
want
to
intentionally
create
like
an
airport
situation
where
neighbors
15
years
from
now,
who
bought
a
middle
income
house,
are
stuck
with
a
lot
of
noise.
Violence
from
a
gun
range
noise
pollution,
not
noise
violence,
although
maybe
it's
the
same
thing.
K
V
I
really
appreciate
the
simple
shapes
that
the
applicant
has
brought
forward
where
each
unit
is
identifiable.
You
know
as
like
Classic
Home
shape,
but
one
of
the
things
I
would
be
interested
in
having
them
invest,
investigate
a
little
further
is
sort
of
future
adaptability.
So
in
the
Wonderland
development,
for
example,
there
was
space
left
for
Port
front,
porch,
editions
and
things
like
that,
so
that
the
units
themselves
could
evolve
over
time
and
I
think
that
something
like
that
could
be
really
nice
for
this
neighborhood
to
allow
it
to
start.
V
In
that
vein,
I
would
love
to
see
you
know,
sort
of
the
ridge
lines
running
lengthwise
on
the
properties,
so
that
your
load-bearing
walls
are
you
know,
you're
in
between
in
between
the
units
instead
of
at
the
front,
and
the
back
and
I
would
encourage
the
applicant
to
continue
looking
at
that
streetscape
design
and
to
see
if
we
can
reduce
the
number
of
overall
streets.
V
I
understand
why
it
is
that
way,
but
while
it
does
hide
the
garage
faces,
it
ends
up
with
the
street
parking
being
on
the
other
streets.
That
sort
of
every
street
is
dominated
either
by
garages
or
street
parking
instead
of
having
like
more
pedestrian
focused
through
ways,
so
I
would
encourage
them
to
continue.
Looking
at
that
to
see.
If
there
are
any
increases,
we
could
make
there
and
potentially
reducing
the
number
of
overall
parking
spaces.
We're
providing.
K
D
Thank
you,
I
just
wanted
to
say,
I,
think
the
concept
view
a
document
that
we
have.
It's
very
beautiful,
I've,
been
to
the
holiday
neighborhood
I.
Think
it's
very
nice
as
well.
Every
time
I
go
there
it!
Oh,
it
feels
like
family.
It
feels
like
Community
just
driving
actually
in
the
area.
It's
just
so
nice
and
another
comment
that
I
had
was
about
the
gun
range
Rachel
just
mentioned
I,
wonder,
is
that
in
the
city
or
is
it
in
the
county?
B
D
Well,
if
it
is
in
the
county,
I
just
want
to
say
there
is
a
bill
going
through.
Well,
that
depends
there's
actually
a
bill
going
through
the
house
by
or
onrip
in
Boulder
a
mabale.
You
might
want
to
check
it
out,
and
that
might
maybe
it
might
answer
some
of
your
concerns.
D
F
Thanks
Aaron
first
I've
said
really
like
the
comments
for
my
colleagues.
It's.
G
Nice
that
we're
heading
in
a
good,
unified
Direction
here
so
one
comment
I
had
had
to
do
with
certainly
was
sort
of
following
up
on
the
J,
Road
and
28,
mostly
just
because
it
would
make
some
sense
for
us
to
start
actually
planning
what
that
infrastructure
needs
to
be
given
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
on
those
500
Acres.
So
I
I
this.
G
This
development
should
kick-start
that
conversation,
not
just
with
regards
to
what
Jay
the
this
development
is
going
to
do,
but
that
larger
piece
going
forward
and
second
of
that,
where
it
comes
back
to
parking.
G
What
we're
going
to
be
likely
doing
at
Area
3
is
going
to
demand
a
lot
of
mass
rapid
transit
in
order
to
move
people
around,
in
which
case
I
think
this
development
would
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
that,
and
so
I
think
we
should
really
look
at
reducing
the
parking
for
what
the
future
is
going
to
hold
for
this
property.
Not
for
what
maybe
it
is
today
where
it's
kind
of
in
a
Transit
Island.
It
won't
be
in
in
too
many
years
and
so
I
think
we
can
build
for
that
future
by
reducing
parking.
G
It's
just
as
important
to
be
talking
about
the
missing
middle
housing.
That's
going
to
be
a
part
of
this
because
that,
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
the
biggest
nut
we
have
to
crack.
We
have
the
fewest
abilities
to
do
middle
income,
but
our
greatest
Gap
is
the
missing
middle,
which
allows
that
greater
scaffolding
for
people
to
move
up
the
socioeconomic
ladder
and
build
that
equity
in
our
community.
B
Sorry,
okay,
I'll
just
a
couple
couple
of
overall
just
additional
comments
well
in
terms
of
going
back
to
Tab
and
getting
their
input.
In
addition
to
some
of
the
other
Transportation
related
things,
we've
been
talking
about.
One
thing,
I'd
love
to
hear
about
from
them
about
is
the
I
saw
the
there
was
a
revised
concept
that
they
brought
forward
that
had
left
and
right
turn
Lanes
coming
out
of
the
development,
and
that
seemed
better
than
the
right
and
right
out.
B
Only
but
I
would
definitely
like
to
hear
from
our
transportation
department
and
tap
about
that,
as
well
as
the
the
multi-use
path
like
I,
really
like
how
they've
got
the
multi-use
path
coming
in
and
then
going
through
and
then
heading
out
to
the
north,
because
eventually
there'll
be
a
need
for
an
a
non-road
way
to
get
bikes
and
pets
to
the
north
for
for
future
phases
of
development.
That
might
happen,
but
I
staff
had
some
comments.
B
I
thought
were
good
about
it
being
kind
of
right
in
front
of
somebody's
door
and
that
maybe
that's
not
the
most
effective
way
to
get
bikes
through
the
the
project.
So
love
to
hear
more
thoughts
from
tab
on
how
that
could
be
done
in
the
best
way
possible
and
our
transportation
folks
as
well,
and
then
I
want
to
really
Echo
Lauren's
comments
about
looking
for
ways
to
reduce
the
amount
of
Street
space,
because
it
does
have
a
lot
of
Street
space
and
a
lot
of
parking.
B
B
So
I
think
it's
important
to
have
functional
open
space
for
the
people
that
that
live
here
along
with
the
families
that
we
expect
will
live
here,
because
there's
family
friendly
typologies
in
here,
which
I
think
we're
all
excited
about,
so
that
that's
kind
of
my
funnel
is
in
better
open
space
with,
hopefully,
some
less
asphalt,
asphalt
and
parking,
but
also
love
that
flexible
patio
idea.
B
B
Beat
you
to
it
good,
yeah,
all
good,
all
right,
any
other
final
thoughts,
no
well
I!
Guess
I.
Would
it's
our
habit
to
turn
to
the
applicant
after
a
concept
plan
and
see
if
our
feedback
was
clear
or
if
you
had
any
questions
for
us
before
we
wrap
up.
AF
I
think
I
just
hang
on.
Let
me
my
video
back
on
I
just
want
to
express
my
appreciation
for
the
thoughtful
consideration
and
I
guess
I
would
say:
I
didn't
expect
to
be
encouraged
tonight,
but
I
am
and
so
I'm
I'm
appreciative,
and
we
took
notes
so
we'll
we'll
try
to
work
on
the
plan
and
see
if
we
can
come
forward
forward
with
something
that
incorporates
these
comments.