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B
Good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
tonight's
study
session
of
the
Boulder
City
Council
I
am
council
member
Tara
Weiner,
and
thank
you
for
joining
us.
We
have
on
tonight's
agenda
two
items.
Our
first
item
is
downtown
streets
as
public
space
update,
and
our
second
item
is
zoning
for
affordable
housing.
Update
and
discussion.
B
Can
you
hear
my
door
chiming
going
on
and
I'll
I'll
work
on
that
next
year
before
we
get
to
those
two
items,
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
have
been
getting
a
lot
of
questions
from
concerned
community
members
about
the
multiple
propane
tank
fires
that
have
taken
place
near
Boulder,
High
School
in
the
past
week,
does
council
agree
to
hearing
an
update
on
this
subject
from
our
city
manager?
Does
anyone
have
any
objections
to
this?
C
And
I,
thank
you,
councilmember
weiner,
for
this
request
and
for
all
of
you
for
supporting
the
opportunity
to
address
the
issue
and
provide
a
quick
update.
As
many
of
you
know,
we've
had
three
propane
tank
explosions.
This
last
week,
Thursday
March,
16th,
Boulder,
fire
and
rescue
was
notified
about
a
small
fire
near
the
Southwest
entrance
of
the
Penfield
Tate
municipal
building.
C
The
fire
was
extinguished
Dan,
which
was
contained
to
a
few
tents,
and
there
were
not
known
injuries
and
Friday
March
17th
bfr
was
again
notified
about
a
small
fire
close
to
the
multi-use
path
near
Boulder
High,
the
fire
there
too
was
extinguished.
The
damage
was
contained
to
one
tent
and
no
known
injuries
and
on
Tuesday
March
21st
Boulder
fire
rescue
was
again
notified
about
a
fire
near
Broadway
and
Arapahoe.
The
fire
again
was
quickly
extinguished
and
the
damage
was
contained
to
one
tent
without
known
injuries.
C
There
seems
to
be
some
confusion
in
community
as
well
about
what
our
responses
in
relation
to
propane
tanks,
Under
the
Tent
and
propane
tank
ordinance.
The
city
does
not
need
72
hours
to
remove
such
tanks
where
they
are
visible
and
are
where
PD
has
been
called
to
investigate
and
proceeds
to
identify
the
same
if
they
are
hidden
inside
tents
and
PD
receives
a
call
to
investigate.
Pd
has
done
so.
There
are
some.
There
are
some
legal
constraints,
our
police
face
when
doing
this
work.
C
This
is
concerning
to
us,
as
we
don't
wish,
to
escalate,
encounters
with
community
members,
but
the
proliferation
of
propane
tanks.
Lately,
coupled
with
an
increase
in
non-compliance,
means
we
may
have
to
do
just
this
very
thing
and
we
hope
counselor
remains
supportive
of
the
work.
Pd
will
have
to
do
in
this
regard.
C
C
Bpd
Staffing
is
ever
improving
and
we
can
routinely
count
on
their
presence
for
the
more
frequent
support
we
need,
given
the
very
real
fire
danger
these
tanks
presents.
We
have
also
asked
the
fire
department
to
join
in
these
cleanup
efforts
moving
forward
and
they
did
so
today
we
have
been
working
on
signs
to
display
in
high
priority
areas
across
the
city
and
hope
to
have
those
coming
out
and
displayed
in
the
coming
weeks
and
as
you'll
hear
more
on
April,
13th
and
I
believe
our
memo
on
the
topic
is
coming
out
soon.
C
We
have
modified
our
protocols
to
treat
underpasses
and
multi-use
path
as
commuter
corridors
that
will
not
require
the
requisite
72-hour
notice
to
clear
and
our
increasing
Patrols
in
critical
areas,
including
around
Boulder
high,
in
partnership
with
our
bbsd
partners,
who
are
also
increasing
resources
there
as
well.
These
increased
patrols
include
evening
hours
as
well.
C
I'll,
say
too,
that
PD
is
actively
investigating
these
recent
incidents,
along
with
our
fire
department,
as
so
many
fires
in
a
concentrated
area
and
the
time
frame
seems
unusual,
we
will
alert
Council.
If
we
have
an
update
on
this,
we
will
have
a
deeper
conversation
about
all
of
these
efforts
on
April
13th,
but
on
Note
2
that
all
the
staff
is
doing
to
address.
What
is
two
that
all
that
staff
is
doing
to
address.
What
is
truly
a
national
as
well
as
a
local
issue,
requires
resources
and
is
Staff
intensive.
C
So
part
of
the
conversation
too
will
need
to
include
eventually
how
we
financially
support
these
and
other
interventions
to
both
assist
those
experiencing
homelessness,
get
the
help
they
need.
As
well
as
how
we
address
the
impacts
of
homelessness
in
our
community,
finally,
I'll
say
that
the
best
way
to
help
us
notify
the
best
way
to
help
us
is
to
notify
us
if
you
see
a
propane
tank
and
community.
C
C
B
Thanks
Nuria,
before
we
go
into
our
work
items
I'd
like
to
outline
how
the
meeting
will
be
conducted,
we
will
review
the
staff's
presentation
for
each
item
on
the
agenda
and
then
we
will
have
a
time
for
questions
after
questions.
We'll
have
the
opportunity
to
give
comments,
counsel,
as
usual
staff.
Ask
that
if
you
have
questions,
please
wait
for
staff
to
complete
their
presentation
and
we're
now
going
to
turn
to
city
manager,
Nuria
Rivera
vandermeid,
to
introduce
our
first
item.
C
Well,
thankfully,
you've
heard
enough
from
me
today
and
I'm
going
to
send
it
over
to
Brad
to
kick
us
off,
but
I'll.
Just
note
briefly.
We
had
promised
last
fall
when
we
came
at
the
end
of
the
late
fall.
C
We
had
talked
about
downtown
streets
as
public
spaces,
and
particularly
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
and
Community
interest
in
the
future
of
West
Pearl
Street,
but
also
just
thinking
in
general,
about
what
are
other
opportunities
staff
took
a
look
at
that
and
I
appreciate
the
members
of
the
process
committee
council,
member
Weiner
and
council
member
Benjamin
who
really
supported
the
engagement
efforts
as
we
move
forward.
It
is
a
complex
issue.
C
I
don't
know
if
it's
something
that
we
will
make
everyone
happy
at
Edible
given
time,
but
I
can
say
that
the
staff
and
our
consultant
Partners
worked
really
hard
to
think
about
listen
to
community
and
come
up
with
options
that
you
will
hear
about
tonight.
So
with
that,
I
will
send
that
over
to
Brad.
D
Thank
you
and
good
evening,
council
members
I'll
be
presenting
the
first
part
of
the
this
presentation
and
then
we'll
continue
from
there.
So
if
we
could
bring
up
the
slides
while
I'm
talking
here
initially,
it
is
our
pleasure
to
come
this
evening
just
a
little
over
three
months
from
when
this
project
and
initiative
was
undertaken.
We
appreciated
the
bias
towards
action.
D
The
council
I
wanted
to
see
after
discussion
in
the
fall,
but
also
the
the
vision
that
you
all
laid
out
of
imagining
a
bigger
future
where
streets
can
be
considered
as
public
spaces
in
a
way
that
we
have
not
unnecessarily
considered
them
in
Boulder
as
holistically
as
you
discussed
in
the
fall,
and
so
with
that
spirit
in
mind,
we
were
able
to
put
together
an
internal
team
through
the
first
months
of
excuse
me
October
and
November,
and
then
bring
our
Consulting
team
in
in
December.
A
D
Lay
out
the
groundwork
for
some
engagement
that
we'll
go
over
in
in
a
bit
of
detail
with
you
leading
up
to
this
evening
with
some
specific
recommendations
with
the
interest
to
get
feedback
from
you,
so
that
we
can
take
forward
your
expectations
for
this
Vision,
but
also
Imagine
towards
a
larger
future,
as
I
included
along
with
myself
doing.
The
introduction
and
the
kind
of
closing
facilitation
I
want
to
acknowledge,
Noreen,
Walsh
who's
from
the
transportation
and
Transit
department
and
has
been
project
manager.
D
She's
done
a
wonderful
job
of
getting
a
lot
of
different
groups
and
interests
together
in
a
very
short
time,
and
then
Amanda
Cole
will
be
doing
much
of
the
presentation
tonight.
She's
Consulting
with
lead
line,
project
management
and
then
also
Brett
Miriam
from
another
Consulting
Group
Gail
people,
who
is
a
Herman's
strategy
firm.
D
So
with
that
we'll
jump
into
the
first
slide.
Here
again,
we
wanted
to
be
responsive
to
two
really
parallel
paths
that
came
out
of
the
discussion
in
the
fall.
What
can
we
do
immediately
in
the
short
term?
What
are
some
specific
recommendations
that
we
can
bring
forward
and
imagine
as
a
city
for
the
administration
into
the
summer
and
fall
of
this
next
year
spring
summer
and
fall
of
now
this
year?
D
And
what
can
we
think
about
in
the
longer
terms
of
using
this
as
a
pilot,
a
three-year
pilot
to
test
things,
try
things
and
go
deeper
into
the
engagement
beyond
what
we
were
able
to
do,
albeit
very
successfully
in
two
months,
but
nonetheless
a
very
compressed
time
frame
and
taking
that
more
further
into
the
future
as
a
living
laboratory
on
what
we'll
be
recommending
is
three
Geographic
areas,
so
we
can
get
a
good
sample
size,
both
geographically
and
in
the
types
of
different
streets
as
reimagined
into
the
future.
D
D
Of
course,
with
every
project
are
some
goals.
This
was
derived
out
of
internal
discussion,
discussion,
feedback
from
you
all,
as
Council
and
and
from
the
public
as
well.
We
recognize
the
importance
of
reflecting
and
building
on
the
experiences
that
we've
had
from
the
past.
We
do
have
the
experiences
during
covet
to
rely
on
experiences
throughout
holders
history
of
deliberate
closed
spaces.
A
D
As
the
bricks
but
other
events
such
as
the
Farmers
Market,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
any
recommendations
reflected
a
diverse
set
of
voices
throughout
the
community
voices
from
north,
south
and
east
community
members
who
we
want
to
make
sure,
are
also
enjoying
the
downtown
folks
from
various
socioeconomic
groups
within
the
town
and
also
understand
the
technical
feasibility
that
comes
with
temporarily
closing
spaces
or
reimagining
them.
D
A
fourth
or
third,
rather
developing
some
specific
and
exciting
recommendations
that
we'll
highlight
this
evening
and
then
fourth
utilizing
as
I
said
this
as
a
pilot,
a
pilot
imagining
a
three-year
cycle.
For
example,
where
we
can
experiment,
try
different
things
measure
and
then
and
then
improve
upon
next
slide.
D
We
have
a
set
of
goals
that
we'll
conclude
with
for
questions
regarding
both
the
technical
analysis
and
Community
feedback
that
we
were
able
to
acquire
in
this
time
frame
and
then
also
feedback
on
the
actual
recommendations
and
information
that
you
as
Council
hope
that
we
can
glean
as
we
kick
off
the
pilot
and
imagine
this
into
the
years
ahead.
D
So
we'll
revisit
these
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
and
with
this
I'm
going
to
hand
it
now
over
to
Amanda
who
will
go
through
the
the
details
of
of
the
research
that's
been
found
and
and
take
it
from
you.
E
Thank
you
Brad.
My
name
is
Amanda
Cole,
it's
nice
to
be
with
you
tonight
Council.
Before
we
get
into
the
recommendations
which
my
colleague
Brett
Will
describe,
I
thought
we
could
pause
and
talk
about
our
approach
and
our
analysis
to
answering
the
question
about
how
and
where
streets
could
be
reimagined
for
this
spring
and
summer,
and
there
are
many
ways
to
look
at
this.
We
took
an
approach
that
was
highly
dependent
on
different
types
of
analysis
and
Community
engagement,
including
looking
at
planned
outdoor
events
and
outdoor
dining.
E
That's
already
going
to
be
occurring
this
summer
season,
looking
at
Transportation
analysis.
So
what
are
the
impacts
to
bike
and
pedestrian
bus
and
vehicular
movements,
really
importantly,
is
the
implementability
of
this
project,
and
so
in
some
other
planning
projects,
you
may
get
to
see
really
big
ideas
and
for
lack
of
a
better
term
unburdened
of
the
ability
to
implement
them
very
quickly.
E
The
set
of
recommendations
has
that
already
baked
in
because
we
started
this
project,
knowing
that
we
would
need
to
implement
very
quickly
looked
at
Urban
Design
analysis,
which
Brett
will
get
into
more.
What
are
the
facades?
What
are
the
street
sizes
where
may
be
most
suitable
for
this
type
of
transformation
and,
of
course,
Community
engagement,
which
I'll
summarize
before
passing
it
to
my
colleagues?
So
we
took
three
approaches
here
with
Community
engagement.
E
The
first
is
an
online
questionnaire
which
you
may
have
seen
in
the
packet
got
almost
1800
responses
and
I
think
that
demonstrates
itself.
High
Community
interest
and
I
wanted
to
pause,
to
clarify
one
of
the
main
points
in
the
questionnaire
which
it's
a
question
about
the
West
Pearl
experience,
and
it
was
a
long
question
in
the
questionnaire
and
I'll
take
a
moment
to
read
that,
because
I
think
the
the
words
of
the
sentence
are
important
and
how
those
results
should
be
interpreted.
E
In
your
view,
how
do
you
think
this
temporary
change
in
the
use
of
streets
impacted
the
overall
appeal
of
the
West
Pearl
area,
and
we
found
that
86
percent
of
respondents
said
that
the
temporary
change
significantly
increased
or
increased
the
overall
appeal
of
the
Westworld
West
Pearl
area,
and
while
the
questionnaire
isn't
statistically
valid
and
doesn't
have
enough
respondents
to
to
be
a
representative
sample
of
the
community?
I
think
that's
one
point
to
clarify,
but
also
this
question
was
really
about
the
overall
appeal
of
the
temporary
change
that
occurred
during
the
pandemic.
E
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
go
into
that
detail.
In
addition
to
the
online
questionnaire,
we
conducted
in-person
engagement
activities
throughout
downtown
and
in
non-downtown
locations
to
try
to
address
address
some
of
the
engagement
gaps
that
have
been
done
previously
and
lastly,
we
conducted
several
stakeholder
meetings
in
a
short
amount
of
time
and
that's
further
detailed
in
your
packet
and
included
visits
to
the
community
connectors
and
residents,
West
Pearl,
business
owners,
the
business
recovery,
Alliance
and
others
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
about
those
and
because
we're
short
on
time
I'll.
E
And,
lastly,
I'll
touch
on
a
constant
theme
throughout
all
of
our
engagement
was
emphasis
on
that.
The
pop-up
should
be
used
to
encourage
and
celebrate
inclusivity
through
the
type
of
activations
participants,
accessibility
and
affordability,
and
with
that
I'll
introduce
my
colleague,
Brett
Miriam
from
gal.
F
Hi
good
evening,
everyone
again,
my
name
is
Brett
Merriam
representing
gel.
We
are
an
urban
strategy
and
Urban
Design
firm,
and
so
we've
been
taking
a
look
at
this
project
through
those
lenses
and
I'll
talk
a
bit
about
our
approach,
which
we
call
the
public
life
potential
mapping
approach,
where
what
we
conducted
was
this
analysis
to
assess
which
street
segments
in
downtown
taking
a
holistic
look
at
all
of
downtown
understanding.
What
street
segments
have
the
most
potential
for
a
good
quality
of
public
life?
F
That
is,
the
ability
for
people
to
cohabitate
and
space
together
to
enjoy
being
in
the
public
realm
and
feel
safe
and
secure
in
doing
so,
and
understanding
which
segments
of
the
street
are
best
situated
for
Success
through
a
public
program
that
we
would
describe
as
part
of
our
recommendations
here
and
so
what
we
did
was
we
evaluated
these
Street
segments,
essentially
across
two
different
dimensions,
one
being
as
places
to
go
through
so
evaluating
the
streets
merits
as
a
place
to
sort
of
conduct
movement,
whether
by
car,
by
foot,
by
bike
or
other
sort
of
wheeled
mobilities.
F
F
If
a
site
were
to
be
closed
to
some
type
of
closure,
we
also
looked
at
the
merits
of
the
streets
as
a
place
to
go
to
you
can
think
of
it
as
what
is
the
Merit
of
this
street
as
a
as
a
Gathering
Place
as
a
destination
in
and
of
itself,
and
so
really
thinking
about
the
merits
of
this
place
as
a
public
space
for
people
to
want
to
enjoy
spending
time
in
and
so
we're
looking
at
things
like
past
and
existing
Street
activations,
so
understanding
what
events
have
taken
place
in
the
past
along
these
streets
and
are
planned
or
to
take
place
into
the
future
as
well,
so
understanding
the
merits
of
these
places
as
somewhat
of
a
festival
grounds
in
and
of
themselves.
F
Looking
at
the
responses
to
the
be
heard,
Boulder
questionnaire
that
Amanda
mentioned,
one
of
the
questions
on
that
questionnaire
was
to
ask
people
to
drop
pins
on
a
map
as
to
where
they
have
positive
or
negative
commentary
about
different
locations.
That
they
would
feel
excited
about
and
then
finally,
thinking
about
the
ground,
floor,
activation
or
facade
quality,
and
this
is
looking
at
the
relationship
that
the
commercial
ground
floor,
sort
of
private
realm.
F
The
way
that
businesses,
restaurants
and
retailers
all
play
in
imparting
a
sense
of
vibrancy
to
the
ground
floor
and
the
experience
of
the
street,
so
understanding
that
interplay
between
the
public
realm
and
private
business
at
the
same
time,
and
so
really
thinking
about
how
all
the
different
positives
and
negatives,
depending
on
the
impacts.
That
would
happen
to
any
of
these
different
dimensions.
We
produced
a
series
of
maps
that
were
all
basically
slices
of
each
of
these
different
pieces
of
criteria.
F
Next
slide,
please,
and
when
we
overlaid
all
those
maps,
all
those
different
slices
on
top
of
each
other
four
major
locations,
bubbled
up
to
the
top
as
the
places
with
the
most
potential
the
best
position
sites
for
this
pop-up
program
to
be
implemented
for
the
spring
summer.
F
2023
season
and
these
locations
were,
of
course,
Pearl
between
9th
and
11th
streets,
13th
Street,
between
Canyon
and
Arapahoe,
14th
Street
between
Spruce
and
walnut,
and
then
Pearl
again
on
the
east
side
between
15th
and
17th,
and
so
it
was
through
our
analysis
about
sort
of
understanding
and
potentially
trying
to
mitigate
impacts
to
Transit,
while
maximizing
the
the
value
of
places
as
places
together
that
these
four
locations
Rose
to
the
top
and
then
inform
some
deeper
stakeholder
engagement
that
we
conducted
as
well
as
some
on-site
assessments.
F
Next
slide-
and
one
note
we
should
make
too,
is
that
our
team
of
Consultants
Fox
Tuttle
being
the
the
consultant
that
prepared
the
transportation
analysis.
So
we
did
some
Transportation
analysis
as
part
of
this
to
really
understand
more
deeply.
F
What
an
impact
a
closure
would
have
to
certain
streets,
and
so
this
was
a
deeper,
more
technical
analysis
that
looked
at
motor
vehicle
operations,
Transit
operations,
biking,
pedestrian
travel,
short-term
parking
and
some
other
considerations
and
a
note
about
the
the
findings
from
this
analysis
is
that,
ultimately,
there
are
sort
of
differences
in
the
sort
of
disruptiveness
of
Transportation
impacts
on
different
street
segments.
Some
segments
being
more
impacted
than
others,
but
nevertheless,
ultimately
no
Street
segment
was
so
impacted,
such
that
that
street
segment
was
automatically
discounted
as
a
site.
F
That's
viable,
ultimately
for
a
pop-up
program,
so
the
traffic
impacts
really
aren't
driving
the
decision
for
certain
locations.
It's
really
about
the
merits
of
the
streets
as
places
to
go
to
they're
kind
of
public
life
profiles.
For
how
enjoyable
can
this
place
really
become
in
a
prop
up
program
that
we
can
stand
up
this
spring
and
summer
for
That
season
next
slide?
F
So
now
we'll
go
to
the
recommendations
and
we'll
walk
you
through
our
rationale
and
ultimately
explain
more
about
our
our
suite
of
recommendations
as
part
of
this,
so
we've
prepared
something
that
we
call
the
action
plan.
F
It's
informed
by
all
the
analysis
that
I
just
described
as
well
as
the
public
engagement
and
what
it
does
is
at
least
the
groundwork
kind
of
prepares,
a
whole
menu
of
options
that
we
think
that
all
together
can
really
be
a
great
program
for
the
summer
and
what
it
does
is
identifies
the
recommendations,
the
locations
for
those
recommendations,
as
well
as
considerations
and
opportunities
for
how
to
really
successfully
Implement
all
these
ideas
and
hopefully
find
success
in
the
implementation
of
the
program
this
summer.
F
Something
to
note,
though,
is
that
we
may
not
weeping
the
city
in
this
case
you
know
be,
may
not
be
able
to
implement
all
of
the
recommendations,
as
described
in
the
action
plan.
Again,
it's
kind
of
the
the
full
recommendation
palette
is
described
in
this
action
plan,
but
we
recognize
that
the
action
plan
also
implies
a
significant
investment
of
resources
in
order
to
achieve
everything,
that's
put
out
there
in
the
action
plan.
F
So
resourcing
is
something
that's
currently
being
deliberated
on
and
we'll
talk
about
this
more
as
we
sort
of
get
to
the
end
of
this
presentation.
But
we
know
that
the
amount
of
resources
made
available
to
this
program
will
ultimately
influence
what
is
implemented,
and
so
it's
possible
that
you
know
all
of
the
recommendations
that
we
talk
through
tonight
may
not
be
implemented
in
full.
It
may
be
some
sort
of
mix
and
match
of
the
elements
to
to
create
a
successful
program.
This
season
next
slide.
F
So
we
want
to
start
first
with
our
goals
so
I
know,
Brad
talked
about
some
of
the
goals
that
kind
of
have
to
deal
with
like
the
city
process,
but
here
are
some
goals
that
we've
identified
as
part
of
our
action
plan
for
really
what
we
want
to
achieve
through
the
pop-up
program
itself,
especially
going
into
this
summer
season,
and
so
with
this
slide
and
a
couple
slides
that
come
after
this
I'm
pulling
wholesale
from
the
action
plan,
you'll
see
as
as
to
why
these
slides
have
a
slightly
different
format.
F
These
are
pulling
from
the
action
plan
so
that
I
can
sort
of
recap.
For
you
all.
What
is
the
rationale
for
these
recommendations
and
what
the
recommendations
are
all
together?
So
the
primary
goal
of
this
program
is
really
thinking
about
how
we
can
transform
roads
into
gathering
places
for
people.
So
we
really
are
at
this
moment
where
we're
rethinking.
F
Of
course,
what
role
do
streets
play
in
the
day-to-day
lives
of
our
citizens,
and
so
we
know
loud
and
clear
that
Boulder
is
interested
in
really
thinking
about
how
to
create
more
community-minded
spaces
and
thinking
about
using
the
roadway
as
kind
of
the
lever
to
to
start
to
add
that
capacity
to
its
City
with
more
Community
focused
space
and
in
doing
so,
create
the
opportunity
for
people
to
really
gather
and
share
joyful,
positive
experiences
together.
F
That's
really
what
we're
after
here,
and
so
we
recognize
that
this
all
really
starts
from
the
emergency
closure
of
West
Pearl,
and
it
was
an
opportunity
that
really
showed
how
the
city
can
respond.
Nimbly
flexibly
to
reimagine
our
streets
to
meet
the
moment
and
during
the
pandemic.
You
know
that
closure
really
was
pivotal
in
keeping
businesses
afloat
at
that
time
and
really
offering
a
safe
space
for
people
to
spend
time
together
at
a
time
when
it
was,
you
know
not
safe
to
do
so
indoors.
F
But
of
course,
all
those
positive
impacts
don't
come
without
their
challenges
and
we
recognize
that
it
did
introduce
some
challenges,
and
so
we
really
see
the
moment
of
the
West
Pearl
closure
and
where
we
are
today,
as
kind
of
the
launching
Point
for
what
we
recommend
through
this
program
can
be
a
very
much
more
systematic,
methodical
approach
where
we
can
experiment
with
different
kinds
of
ideas.
F
Different
kinds
of
transformations
to
the
roadway,
both
in
the
near
term,
say
this
spring
summer
season,
but
also
into
the
future
years,
where
this
program
can
iterate
on
itself
into
the
future
to
really
test
ideas
in
full.
And
so
again,
we
see
this
moment
as
the
opportunity
to
maximize
positive
impacts
through
that
experimentation,
while
learning
how
to
mitigate
the
negative
impacts
that
might
come
about
from
closures
or
transformations
to
the
street,
and
in
addition
to
that,
just
to
recap
a
few
of
the
other
goals
that
are
kind
of
embedded
within
all
these
ideas.
F
We
also
Beyond
just
creating
more
joyful
Community
connections
and
providing
the
opportunity
for
people
to
gather
in
public
space.
We
also
really
want
to
expand
the
mental
map
of
people
Beyond,
just
the
mall,
so
in
that
they
think
of
downtown.
It's
really
about
creating
more
reasons
for
visitors
to
explore
the
district
more
fully
and
more
thoroughly,
and
in
doing
so
we're
better
connecting
that
bike
and
pedestrian
Network
throughout
the
downtown
area
and
Beyond.
F
We
want
to
see
this
program
as
an
opportunity
to
support
and
work
with
Boulder
businesses
sort
of
in
a
very
collaborative
Manner
and
then
ultimately,
as
I
sort
of
already
mentioned,
wanting
to
test
different
programmatic
ideas
that
can
hopefully
then
influence
future
Capital
Street
design
projects
where
we
can
start
more
lightweight
and
temporary
today
and
learn
things
that
can
then
inform
ongoing
City
processes
ongoing
projects
that
then
may
become
more
permanent
and
formalized
moving
forward
next
slide.
F
So
we
do
recognize,
too,
that
this
program
is
really
just
one
piece
of
a
much
larger
puzzle
of,
what's
already
going
to
be
taking
place,
downtown
sort
of
regardless
of
this
package
of
recommendations,
and
we
know
that
Boulder
itself
already
has
a
very
long
history
of
carving
out
space
for
people,
carving
up
from
roadways
space
for
people
to
gather
with,
of
course,
the
Pearl
Street
Mall.
And
we
see
that
as
a
major
asset
to
the
downtown
area.
F
But
there
are
also
plenty
of
more
sort
of
recent
initiatives
that
are
taking
place
that
also
we
see
kind
of
fitting,
underneath
the
general
gist
or
sort
of
the
same
mission
that
this
program
has,
and
so
to
recap,
some
of
those
things,
one
being
of
course,
the
outdoor
dining
pilot
program,
which
similarly
was
developed
as
a
emergency
response
to
covid,
but
then
was
expanded
into
a
five-year
pilot
program.
F
So
we
know
that
through
this
year
and
into
years
following
they'll,
continue
to
be
this
transformation
of
parking
spaces
into
outdoor
dining
spaces
and
experimentation
and
how
we're
repurposing
roadway
for
that
commercial
use.
F
Another
initiative,
that's
going
on
through
collaboration
with
downtown
Boulder
partnership,
is
the
everyday
activities
that
are
meant
to
animate
and
energize
the
Pearl
Street
Mall,
so
adding
more
activities
and
reasons
for
fun
along
that
portion
of
the
downtown
area
and
then,
lastly,
special
events
a
whole
calendar
of
different
special
events
and
festivals
that
come
with
street
closures.
F
So
again,
regardless
of
the
action
plan
here
and
the
recommendations
that
we're
putting
forth
there's
a
whole
calendar
of
sort
of
both
past
but
recurring,
and
returning
programs
and
festivals
as
well
as
new
ones
that
make
use
of
public
Street
public
right-of-way
and
require
the
closure
of
those
streets
to
operate
the
event.
So
something
like
the
appraise
Street
event.
That
just
happens.
You
know
a
matter
of
weeks
ago
on
West
Pearl
is
an
example
of
that
type
of
program.
F
F
How
can
we
then
deploy
different
strategies
to
in
different
Geographic
portions
of
downtown
so
that
we're
really
maximizing
what
we're
learning,
what
we're
testing
and
trying
to
really
create
a
canvas
in
which
we're
trying
out
new
things
in
new
places
ultimately,
and
what
we
see
as
part
of
this
tapestry
is
and
I'll
go
through
each
of
these
different
sections
here.
So
you
can
see
this,
it's
all
about
again
maximizing
what
we
see
as
the
positive
impacts
that
we
can
get
while
minimizing
some
of
the
negative
ones
and
we'll
speak
about
this
theme.
F
A
little
bit
more.
The
first
section
I'll
talk
about
is
West
Pearl,
where
we
see
this
being
an
opportunity
to
really
focus
on
the
experimentation
with
outdoor
dining,
as
well
as
the
occasional
special
events
that
are
slated
to
take
place
in
that
section
of
the
street
throughout
the
summer.
F
Building
on
the
strong
sense
of
activation,
that's
already
taking
place
with
the
farmers
market
in
that
area
with
the
Pearl
Street
Mall.
This
is,
as
I
said
before,
that
that
daily
activities
and
activations
that
are
slated
to
be
there
to
animate
that
site
and
sort
of
a
greater
investment
in
place,
making
fixtures
and
elements
to
make
that
site
feel
more
alive
in
the
summer
and
then,
lastly,
in
East
Pearl
and
on
14th
Street,
we
envision
a
different
type
of
parklet,
so
on
West
Pearl,
we
have
kind
of
the
outdoor
dining
parklet.
F
Here,
on
the
east
side,
we
propose
a
number
of
Park
Blitz
that
are
for
public
seating
and
bike
parking
so
that
it's
more
about
this
idea
of
the
non-commercial
Parkland
and
offering
more
public
space
for
people
to
stop
and
stay
and
have
access
to
the
opportunity
to
linger
more
in
the
public
realm.
F
And
so
you
can
see
here
that
each
of
these
different
sites
have
a
bit
of
a
different
approach
so
that
we
are
testing
a
lot
of
different
ideas
and
ultimately
trying
to
kind
of
modulate
the
level
excitement
and
have
sort
of
different
opportunities
to
engage
with
streets
in
different
ways
throughout
all
of
downtown
this
summer.
Next
slide.
F
And
so
taking
into
consideration
all
of
our
analysis,
the
public
engagement
and
all
the
things
that
are
already
planned
to
take
place
in
downtown
again,
regardless
of
the
recommendations
that
that
we're
putting
forth
we've
come
to
our
own
set
of
recommendations
that
are
meant
to
complement
all
of
those
things
and
again
it's
this
idea
that
Midwest
Pearl
we
want
to
focus
on
the
outdoor
dining
as
the
sort
of
signature
experimentation,
that's
taking
place
there
and
pairing
that,
with
these
special
events
that
are
going
to
take
place
there,
we
also
see
this
as
an
opportunity
again
on
13th
to
really
do
a
signature.
F
Spotlight
on
that
place
is
a
new
Gathering
Place.
So,
as
I
mentioned
previously
already,
the
farmer's
market
has
already
established
a
sense
of
momentum
here
where
it
on
Wednesdays
and
Saturdays
does
close
the
street
with
a
regular,
recurring
Rhythm
and
in
doing
so,
creates
a
strong
sense
of
activation
there.
And
so
we
want
to
build
on
that
momentum
and
really
cement.
F
These
places,
the
13th
Street
as
a
site
to
kind
of
build
on
that
and
create
more
of
a
sense
of
destination
and
a
rival
there
more
consistently-
and
we
also
see
this
as
an
opportunity
to
key
into
the
Civic
area
master
plan
where
that
section
of
13th
is
already
envisioned
to
become
more
fully
pedestrianized.
And
so
we
see
this
as
the
opportunity
to
start
to
test
that
hypothesis
and
more
iteratively
build
to
that
potential
Redevelopment
of
that
site.
F
You
can
think
of
them
as
where
you
know
we're
kind
of
stamping
down
some
transformation
that
that
won't
go
anywhere
with
any
sense
of
ephemerality
they're
kind
of
there
for
the
entire
season,
and
you
can
see
that
the
roadway
is
being
actively
carved
out
for
people
and
then
the
fixtures,
the
kind
of
movable
seating
lighting,
fixtures,
Planters
storage.
F
These
are
all
kind
of
some
of
the
nitty-gritty
things,
but
these
are
also
ways
in
which
we
can
upgrade
physically
The,
Pedestrian
and
biking
experience
more
evenly
throughout
downtown
by
deploying
them
throughout
the
downtown
area.
F
And
so
we
understand
ultimately
that
the
public
is
looking
for
summertime
experiences
where
they
can
gather
around
food
and
fun
in
the
street.
You
know
and
part
of
our
questionnaire.
We
learned
that
the
reason
people
come
downtown
primarily
is
for
the
dining
opportunities
The
Nightlife
opportunities,
the
the
businesses,
the
restaurants,
the
retailers
there
the
shopping,
and
so
we
really
want
to
amplify
that
sense
here,
and
we
really
think
that
that
sense
of
fun
and
Gathering
can
be
achieved
with
something
that's
a
consistent
schedule
of
events.
F
Enclosures,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
full
24
7
closure
anywhere.
We
think
that,
with
the
right
Rhythm
that's
tied
to
the
rhythms
of
people
who
come
to
downtown,
we
can
offer
enough
opportunity
for
people
to
find
the
moments
to
gather,
and
that's
the
moment
where
they're
making
the
memory.
You
know
when
people
are
downtown.
F
That's
when
they're
downtown
and
if
there's
a
critical
mass
of
people
downtown
they're,
going
to
find
the
Opera
they're
going
to
find
the
right
opportunity
to
enjoy
themselves
there,
and
so
we
really
want
to
kind
of
amplify
the
moments.
When
we
know
people
are
coming
downtown
and
use
that
as
the
kind
of
launching
pad
to
then
amplify
that
experience
make
it
even
more
exciting
and
really
be
efficient
with
our
Resources
by.
F
It
in
that
right
moment
the
next
slide,
so
I
want
to
speak
on
some
of
our
rationales
that
went
into
these
recommendations
and
I'll
start
with
the
first
one
here.
The
the
statement
here,
that
is
the
scale
of
transformation,
needs
to
match
the
level
of
activation.
F
Another
way
that
we
can
put
this
is
that
activation
in
our
opinion,
in
our
sort
of
expertise
of
this,
this
field
is
that
activation
needs
to
lead
street
closures
and
not
the
other
way
around,
for
a
public
space
to
feel
vibrant,
inviting
and
and
very
importantly,
for
it
to
feel
safe.
F
We
need
people
to
be
in
them
and
something
that
we've
come
to
learn
through
our
practice
and
and
through
doing
these
types
of
closures
and
other
public
space
projects
is
that
we
know
that
you
know
creating
a
new
public
space,
whether
it's
a
whole
new
space
through
a
capital
project
or
even
just
creating
or
repurposing
space
for
a
new
purpose
like
a
street
closure.
Does
you
know
it's
not
enough
to
just
create
that
space
and
then
expect
people
to
show
up?
F
It
really
takes
work
to
change
people's
mental
maps
of
districts,
even
the
ones
that
they're
very
familiar
with.
If
people
don't
have
it
in
their
mind's
eye
or
in
the
routine,
to
go
to
a
place
to
experience
something
it's
a
tough
sell
to
get
people
to
kind
of
wholesale
change
that
that
mental
map
that
they
have
and
so
activation
creating
events
and
happenings
that
are
broadly
communicated
to
folks.
It's
a
really
strong
way,
probably
the
best
way
to
entice
people
to
visit
a
place
under
a
different
sort
of
intent.
F
Really,
you
know
and
what
it
does
is
it
rewrites
their
mental
map,
but
without
that
activation
public
spaces
can
be
dull
and
ultimately,
they'll
be
empty
and
creating
the
negative
externalities
that
can
kind
of
outnumber
or
outweigh
the
positives
of
creating
the
space
in
the
first
place.
So
you
have
to
be
really
careful
about
sort
of
the
volume
of
space
that's
being
created
relative
to
the
level
of
activation
there,
and
so
the
volume
of
space
can
be
modulated
by
time
or
physical
amounts
of
space.
F
So
we're
thinking
about
that
and
wanting
to
really
right
size.
How
much
or
what
duration
is
the
street
closed
to
really
match
it
to
the
level
of
activation
that
we
can
produce
in
this
spring
summer,
time
frame
relatedly?
And
secondly,
we
Advocate
that
you
can
really
meaningfully
transform
streets
without
something
that
looks
like
a
24
7
closure.
F
So
again,
this
could
be
something
along
a
temporal
Dimension,
so
partial
closures
that
maybe
happen
on
the
weekends,
like
our
recommendations
advocate
for
that
can
be
enough
time
to
give
people
the
opportunity
to
experience
the
street
in
a
new
way
without
running
the
risk
of
keeping
the
street
open
or
keeping
the
street
open
to
pedestrians
but
close
to
vehicles
for
too
much
time,
and
with
all
that
time
we
don't
have
enough
people
to
fill
it
consistently.
F
So
we
see
it
as
a
great
opportunity
to
again
concentrate
concentrate
the
amount
of
closure
that
we
do
on
a
temporal
Dimension.
Another
way
that
we
can
really
concentrate
the
amount
of
street
that
we
closed
is
through
the
physical
sort
of
footprint
of
what
is
closed
and
that's
where
the
parklets
come
into
play
as
well.
F
We
can
really
signal
a
transformation,
that's
quite
meaningful
and
and
show
a
real
commitment
to
carving
space
away
from
roadway
for
cars
and
make
it
for
people
through
taking
up
the
parking
spaces
and
using
the
parklets
as
a
program
to
do
so,
and
then
the
last
idea
that
I'll
cover
just
on
this
slide
is
the
note
about
businesses,
the
final,
the
final
Point
here.
So
we
recognize
and
we
Advocate
that
you
know
the
older
businesses
in
downtown
really
are
key
Partners
in
enhancing
the
experience
of
downtown.
We
recognize
again
that
it's
it's.
F
The
reason
that
many
people
come
to
downtown
is
because
of
the
businesses
and
the
experiences
that
they
provide,
and
this
was
true
in
part
during
the
West
Pearl
closure,
when
the
main
activation
of
the
street
during
that
time
was
the
outdoor
dining
that
businesses
provided.
F
But
we
also
recognize
in
our
consultation
with
some
businesses,
that
they
have
strong
reservations
about
a
street
closure
on
West
Pearl,
and
so
we
do
want
to
underscore
that
it's
very
important
that,
as
the
city
contemplates
street
closures
and
rolling
out
a
program
that
does
sort
of
transform
streets,
we
Advocate
that
businesses
do
have
the
opportunity
to
to
be
included
in
that
process
and
to
be
a
part
of
that
discussion.
F
Ultimately,
this
is
to
say
that
closures
that
may
impact
businesses
are
possible
to
implement,
but
it
requires
really
a
higher
level
of
consultation
and
in
a
really
careful
Mitigation,
Of
impacts
and,
ultimately,
the
timeline
for
this
implementation
for
this
spring
summer.
Season
really
just
doesn't
quite
allow
for
that
deeper
level
of
consultation.
F
So
we
really
would
want
to
be
careful
about
how
we
work
with
businesses
and
think
about
the
lifespan
of
this
program,
which
has
a
lifespan
of
many
years
as
an
opportunity
to
really
embark
on
that
deeper
level
of
consultation
and
collaboration
with
those
partners.
Next
slide.
F
So,
with
the
components
of
the
pop-up
really
are
about
so
in
sort
of
consideration
of
everything
else,
that's
already
happening
in
downtown.
These
are
the
key
elements
that
the
action
plan
puts
forth.
Has
some
additive
elements
to
support
everything
else?
That's
already
taking
place
again
this
summer,
so
the
first
being
the
recurring
events
on
13th
Street,
creating
a
weekend
weekly
rhythm
of
closures
that
are
tied
to
a
robust
calendar
of
diverse
events
that
can
inspire
people
to
gather
in
downtown
building
off
the
momentum
again
of
the
farmer's
market.
F
And
just
quickly,
you
know
it
on
implementation.
You
know
this
process
began
in
late
fall
and
the
consultant
team
really
got
on
board
and
I
think
it
was
December
of
2022
and
ultimately
this
is
a
pretty
compressed
timeline
to
assess,
create
recommendations
and,
ultimately
Implement.
F
So
we
have
about
you,
know
about
I,
would
say
a
month
or
two
really
of
lead
time
to
get
things
cooking
and
out
there
for
the
spring
summer,
and
so
due
to
that,
you
know
we're
already
working
on
implementation
and
thinking
about
four
intertwined
tracks
of
communications
procurement
programming,
as
well
as
internal
coordination
and
data
collection.
F
Next
slide,
it's
just
Lastly.
Lastly,
for
me
at
least
this
is
just
a
note
with
resources
and
again
coming
back
to
that
that
statement
that
the
resources
themselves
will
dictate
the
specifics
of
the
pop-up.
So
the
action
plan
has
a
number
of
recommendations,
a
part
of
it,
but
we
know
the
resources
made
available
will
impact
what
we
can
actually
Implement
in
the
near
term.
With
this
program,
we
recognize
that
the
city
is
taking
a
more
proactive
role
in
modeling,
the
future
of
streets.
F
So
in
being
the
more
active
sort
of
Transformer
of
streets
themselves,
the
city
is
taking
on
sort
of
that
additional
significant
expense,
because
they're
ultimately
kind
of
behind
behind
the
wheel
in
in
driving
the
change
here
in
the
future,
though,
in
the
long
term,
we
can
imagine
this
program
really
maturing
into
more
of
a
resident-led
initiative
where
local
residents,
businesses
or
other
organizations
have
the
opportunity
to
spearhead
the
transformation
of
streets
themselves,
and
then,
in
that
case,
the
city
can
take
on
potentially
a
more
facilitator
role
and
then
ultimately,
ideally
kind
of
incur
fewer
expenses
as
part
of
that,
but
again
in
the
near
term.
F
As
we
think
about
implementing
for
this
season,
the
resources
will
dictate
some
elements
of
the
pop-up
or
some
sort
of
manifestations
of
how
the
pop-up
can
show
up
in
this
season,
and
some
of
the
elements
that
it
will
touch
on
is
the
lifespan
of
the
pop-up.
How
long
can
the
program
really
last
for
will
depend
on
resources,
the
frequency
or
the
Cadence?
F
Thinking
of
how
often
can
we
produce
programming
and
have
programming
take
place,
and
for
that
reason
than
have
street
closures
that
occur
along
with
those
events
and
programs
and
then
the
prioritization?
You
know
in
the
event
that
we
don't
have
enough
resources
to
implement
everything,
as
described
in
the
action
plan.
What
elements
of
the
recommendations
what
programs
within
it
might
be
prioritized
over
another
also:
what
locations
might
we
end
up
giving
privilege
to
over
others
if
we
have
to
come
down
to
it?
E
Thanks
Brett,
this
is
our
last
slide
before
the
council.
Discussion
begins
and
your
feedback
will
influence
our
next
step
so
to
cover
those
briefly
here.
We're
here
in
March
with
the
council
study
session
and
Council
gave
Direction,
but
last
fall
for
these
pop-ups
to
begin
in
the
spring
and
summer,
so
we'll
head
directly
into
implementation,
planning
and
installation.
There's
several
steps
there.
That
I
think
we've
all
touched
on
tonight.
E
That
includes
identifying
a
funding
source
and
so
staff
expects
that
there
may
be
a
gap
between
500
000
and
1
million
dollars
to
successfully
launch
the
pop-ups
this
year.
That
will
include
hiring
a
pop-up
manager
coordinating
with
Partners,
including
downtown
Boulder
partnership,
promotion
of
the
pop-ups
to
invite
people
to
attend
them
and,
of
course,
designing
the
engagement
and
evaluation.
E
The
idea
is
that,
at
the
conclusion
of
the
pop-ups
and
sometime
in
the
fall
that
we
would
be
developing
longer
term
recommendations
as
a
result
of
pop-ups
and
with
that
I
believe
I'll,
maybe
hand
to
Brad
or.
D
As
Tara
no
to
me
so
before
we
return
back,
thank
you
so
much
Amanda
and
Brett.
We
appreciate
again
the
work
that
they've
done
before
I
frame.
This
up
I
do
want
to
acknowledge.
A
D
Didn't
maybe
identify
myself
for
for
any
public
I'm,
the
director
of
planning
and
development
services,
but
very
much
a
partnership
of
four
departments:
Natalie
Stiffler
with
transportation
and
Mobility
Sarah
Huntley,
with
Communications
and
Chris
Jones
with
Community
vitality,
and
just
you
know
recognizing
how
interdependent
it
is
between
different
departments.
We
also
do
council
members
have
a
large
number
of
Staff
here
from
a
variety
of
areas.
A
D
Talk
about
everything
from
the
broader
conference
and
planning
to
transportation,
to
details
about
financing
and
those
types
things
as
well,
so
we
do
have
the
ability
to
Pivot
and
go
into
some
of
those
more
administrative
things,
but
with
that,
this
is
our
presentation
of
recommendations
for
this
pilot
project
as
I
described
it
at
the
beginning,
with
three
different
data
points:
three
different
geographies
to
allow
us
to
do
additional
research
and
feedback
and
Outreach
while
experimenting
with
things
throughout
the
summer.
A
G
B
Thank
you
for
that
awesome
presentation,
thanks
Amanda
Brett
and,
of
course,
Brad
I
thought
what
we
would
do
is
divide
this
conversation,
this
conversation
into
a
few
sections.
B
First
staff
does
want
Council
to
weigh
in
on
question
one
which
was
does
city
council
have
any
questions
about
the
technical
analysis
or
the
community
feedback
element
of
the
overall
pop-up
pilot
and
any
other
overall
questions,
and
then
I
will
divide
up
the
council
questions
and
comments
into
three
parts:
13th
Street
questions
and
comments,
parklets
and
then
West
Pearl.
So
we'll
start
with
the
easiest
and
end
up
with
what
will
have
the
greatest
Divergence
of
opinion,
and
we
can
discuss
questions
two
and
three
in
questions
for
Council
for
each
of
those
locations
as
well.
B
B
H
I
B
Yeah
I'm
a
little
hard
to
follow,
sometimes
Bob,
that's,
okay,
we're
gonna,
do
general
questions
about
the
community
feedback
in
the
technical
analysis
and
any
general
questions
and
we're
going
to
do
like
the
three
locations
13th,
then
the
parklets
and
then
Westborough.
We're
gonna
do
that
in
part
two.
If
that's
okay,.
B
H
Well
so
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
wondering
about
is
you
know
in
thinking
about
what
was
just
presented.
Is
there
a
menu
of
options
to
choose
from,
or
is
it
kind
of
all
or
none,
and
if
it's
a
menu
of
options,
do
we
have
some
ballpark
figures
for
cost
for
these
different
options,
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
like
we
saw
five
half
a
million
to
a
million
dollars,
or
how
can
we
go
there.
D
So
it
definitely
is
a
menu
of
options.
The
recommendations
are
batched
in
the
way
they
are
again
to
to
provide
Variety
in
the
types
of
things
and
different
Geographic
variety,
as
well
as
different
experience
as
well,
but
it
certainly
can
be
mix
and
match.
D
We've
had
to
work
with
a
bit
of
a
chicken
and
egg
Nicole
when
it
comes
to
funding
the
the
short
answer
is:
there's
individual
costs
on
a
lot
of
things,
and
we
can
speak
to
some
of
that.
More
broadly
speaking,
to
do
kind
of
the
light
version
of
this,
we
believe
would
be
about
500
000,
but
about
300
000
of
that
is
already
be
identified.
D
D
J
D
And
thank
you
Noreen,
and
it
will
add
too
that
that
is
it's
heavy
on
the
first
year,
because
we
don't
have
the
benefit
of
getting
as
many
Community
Partners
as
we
would
Envision.
Ultimately
we're
renting
a
lot
of
things
that
we
ultimately
could
buy.
Once
decisions
were
made
about
that
we're
having
to
hire
temporary
staff,
we're
in
the
future
that
could
be
seasoned
staff,
those
kind
of
things,
so
it
is
front
heavy
given
just
the
time
frame
and
and
the.
A
H
Okay,
thanks
and
kind
of
a
follow-up
question.
We
all
know
money
doesn't
grow
on
trees.
So
what's
this
coming
from
where?
Where
did
this
money
come
from
or
where
would
it
come
from
to
to
fill
that
Gap
yeah.
D
K
Foreign
good
evening,
Council,
Mark,
wolf
budget
officer,
appreciate
the
question
Nicole.
So
my
understanding
from
the
project
team
is
that
the
current
funding
is
identified
through
arpa,
which
is
related
to
the
revitalization
efforts
in
commercial
districts,
and
then
the
remainder
of
the
funding
would
be
from
the
Central
Area
General
Improvement
District,
the
Gap
funding
would
be
something
we'd
have
to
revisit
at
the
adjustment
to
base
coming
up
so
likely.
Looking
at
one-time
funding
as
Brad
suggested
is
looking
at
this
as
a
pilot
year.
H
Yeah
that's
helpful
and
then
so
those
are
all
my
financial
questions,
sure
others.
Others
may
help
them
too,
but
thank
you
for
that
Mark
and
then
one
of
the
other
questions
I
have
was
just
about
the
engagement
itself.
So
we
had
a
lot
of
folks
who
weighed
in
on
this.
Is
it
accurate
to
say
that
the
whole
Community
contributed
to
these
suggestions?
Are
there
any
folks
who
were
not
necessarily
represented.
E
Yeah
you
can
take
that
Nicole.
We
do
know
from
the
questionnaire
responses
that
we
do
still
have
some
engagement
gaps
that
remain
and
that
many
of
the
participants
outweighed
or
underweighed
their
representation
of
overall
public,
including
age
and
income
and
race.
So
we
do
know,
there's
gaps.
We
did
here
quite
a
bit
from
the
questionnaire
and
the
in-person
engagement,
but
I
don't
know
if
I
could
say
we
heard
from
all
areas
of
the
community.
Equally.
H
D
A
D
How
does
this
reach
out
into
the
broader
community
and
by
broader
Community
I,
mean
other
Geographic
parts
of
the
city?
How
does
this
become
something
that
all
parts
of
the
city
feel
is
owned
by
them
and
attracts
them?
So
that's
going
to
be
different.
Geographic
parts
of
the
city,
different
income
level,
parts
of
the
city.
D
What
would
draw
them
down,
which
is
Again
part
of
the
experiment
that
the
idea
of
this
being
a
pilot
to
test
those
different
pieces
do
Parks
draw
one
group:
do
activities
draw
another,
but
we
know
that
that
would
need
to
be
part
of
the
deliberate
effort
with
this
being
an
expanded
experiment,
recognizing
the
logistical
limitations
and
propping
up
some
things
that
are
easy
things
to
do
in
the
shorter
time
frame
that
was
available,
but
I
would
encourage
others
who
are
on
the
team
and
and
were
involved
engagement
to
maybe
round
out.
My
answer
on
that.
E
We
can
share
some
of
the
results
from
the
community
connectors
residents,
which
I
actually
think
will
help
at
least
remind
us
all
some
of
their
feedback
that
they
gave
us
related
to
who
these
pop-ups
should
try
to
attract.
The
community.
Connectors
talked
about
some
feelings
about
feeling
like
a
stranger
or
not
feeling
welcome
in
downtown
spaces
and
wanting
more
opportunities
for
cultural
events
and
not
knowing
how
to
fit
that
in
with
the
city
process,
or
with
this
pop-up
phase.
L
Thank
you.
This
is
probably
going
to
be
a
question
for
Mark.
When
we
looked
at
closing
West
Pearl
I
guess
we
didn't
look
at
closing
it
when
that
was
discussed.
One
of
the
things
that
was
brought
to
our
attention
was
the
tax
data
and
how
that
had
changed
sort
of
pre
and
post
closure
and
how
that
compared
to
other
areas
of
the
city,
I
was
a
little
surprised
that
we
didn't
have
that
data
as
part
of
this
is
that
data
that
we
have
and
have
we
started.
K
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question:
Lauren
I
I!
Don't
have
those
numbers
on
hand.
I
know
we
do
have
access
to
them.
Those
10
we
we
have
a
couple
months,
lagged
to
reconcile
sales
tax
information,
so
we
would
have
it
up
to
oh
getting
into
January,
now
be
happy
to
provide
an
update
and
follow-up.
After
this
meeting.
L
L
Let's
see
I
had
a
couple
of
sort
of
specific
questions.
I
noticed,
let's
see
on
the
maps
next
to
the
map
between
can't
can
on
13th,
between
Canyon
and
Arapahoe
on
the
building
facade
potential
activation
map.
L
I
couldn't
quite
tell
what
color
that
is.
Is
that
blue
and
red
on
top
of
each
other,
making
purple
or.
F
So
I
can
speak
to
this
to
just
clarify
yeah,
so
it's
a
it's
kind
of
a
mixed
bag
in
that
area,
which
was
attempted
to
be
conveyed,
but
I
think
it's
better
to
just
sort
of
verbally.
You
know
sort
of
share,
I
think
our
analysis
of
that
space.
F
F
Whether
or
not
say
you
know
a
site
that
gets
a
negative
or
a
sort
of
a
least
active
score
with
the
facade
analysis
is
thinking
about
places
that
are
completely
walled
off
no
transparency
sites
in
which
it
really
just
kind
of
a
a
blank
facade
for
people
to
only
just
move
across,
and
then
the
strongest
facades
are
often
ones
that
are
punctuated
with
many
businesses
have
visual
interests
so
we're
thinking
both
in
kind
of
the
the
Delight
that
people
get
from
the
visual
experience
and
and
the
sort
of
visual
stimuli
of
different
facades
and
also
the
level
of
activation
that
businesses
or
other
ground
floor
kind
of
operating
entities
provide.
F
So
with
13th.
It's
it's
a
bit
of
an
interesting
case,
because,
ultimately,
it's
not
the
most
activated
Edge.
It
has
some
strong
sense
of
activation,
with,
of
course,
the
tea
house
and
bomoka.
But
then
the
sort
of
the
The
Landmark
site,
of
course,
is
not
really
offering
much
in
terms
of
public
activity
either.
So
again,
that's
kind
of
maybe
a
poor
visualization
But,
ultimately
to
convey
that
it's
kind
of
got
this
Duality
to
it
where
in
comparison
to
some
other
Street
segments,
it's
not
the
strongest
in
that
regard.
F
No,
but
it
has
other
merits
that
we
thought
brought
it
to
the
level
of
meriting
sort
of
being
the
site
for
this
Gathering
program
that
we've
described.
L
You
I
was
also
a
little
bit
surprised
to
see
why,
between
11
and
15th,
characterized
as
a
bicycle-friendly
street
I
was
wondering,
I
was
hoping.
You
could
maybe
explain
to
me
a
little
bit
more,
how
we,
how
we
got
to
characterizing
it
as
such,
since
it
doesn't
sort
of
match
my
feeling
when
I
bike
down
that
street.
F
Yeah,
so
it
this
is
a
term
that
comes
from
it
comes
from
Google
sort
of
API
data
that
looks
at
people's
movement
patterns
and
the
friendliness
is
determined
kind
of
by
People's
Choice
to
bike
along
it,
not
always
by
the
infrastructure
itself
being
the
friendliest.
So
in
that
case,
if
it
is
kind
of
this
again
kind
of
confusing,
but
mixed
kind
of
condition
of
people
do
bike
on
it,
and
so
people
are
sort
of
choosing
to
use
the
site
and
noting
it's
the
choice
for
people
to
do
so.
F
Despite
a
bit
of
the
per
you
know,
perhaps
the
infrastructure
is
certainly
not
up
up
to
scratch
in
terms
of
actually
being
the
safest
by
Connection.
In
that
regard,.
L
I
guess
that
does
kind
of
segue
into
I
was
seeing
this
or
part
of
my
desire
with
this
project
is
that
we
might
look
at
how
we
are
making
these
streets
friendlier
things
for
bikes
and
I.
I
do
think
that
downtown
is
difficult
to
transverse
on
a
bike
to
get
from
sort
of
like
one
place,
downtown
to
another,
between
a
lot
of
streets
being
closed
to
bikes
and
sidewalks
being
closed
to
bikes
and
then
a
number
of
the
adjacent
streets
being
unfriendly.
F
F
J
F
I'll
first
speak
to
just
the
the
how
it
sort
of
shows
up
in
our
recommendations-
and
we
certainly
did
look
at
the
bicycle
Network
and
trying
to
understand
if
this
was
an
opportunity
to
close
gaps.
We
see
the
ability
you
know.
One
of
the
challenges
I'll
start
with
first,
is
that
some
of
the
feedback
and
some
of
the
needs
assessment
phase
of
the
the
work
that
we
did
to
understand.
Some
of
the
challenges
of
closing
different
segments
of
Street
and
understanding
emergency
access.
F
F
This
was
this
sort
of
a
conclusion
that
we
reached
internally
as
kind
of
the
primary
goal
to
achieve,
and
then
in
say
putting
more
attention
on
parts
of
East
Pearl
on
parts
of
13th
in
the
near
term,
where
it's
quite
condensed
to
just
one
segment.
At
a
time.
We
understand
that
that's
kind
of
a
limited
concentration
of
where
this
investment
can
go
in
the
sneer
term,
but
we
could
imagine,
and
what
we'd
want
to
do
is
see
how
this
can
sort
of
grow
outward
from
the
places
that
we
start
in.
F
So
imagining
how
we
can
really
think
about
13th
more
systematically,
as
this
Corridor
is
one
concept,
understanding
that
it
does
have
one
of
the
stronger
bike
networks
currently,
but
then
with
14th
as
well,
beginning
to
think
about
some
modest
changes
that
we're
doing
today.
That
Ben
can
start
to
iteratively
grow
towards
more
more
transformation
in
different
parts
of
downtown.
So
we
recognize
that
the
recommendations
here,
because
of
kind
of
their
concentration
on
one
segment
at
a
time,
they're
not
able
truthfully
to
dramatically
alter
the
bike
Network
within
this
season.
F
D
A
D
Be
able
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
that
would
dovetail
into
the
Cannes
study
Valerie,
if
you
don't
mind.
M
Yeah
thanks
Brad
and
thanks
Brad,
just
to
build
off
what
Brett
mentioned.
You
know
we're
paying
close
attention
to
the
investigation
and
Analysis
that
was
done
as
part
of
this
effort
and
I'm
Sorry
by
the
way
I'm
Valerie,
Watson,
Transportation,
Planning
manager,
with
transportation
and
Mobility.
M
We
are
thinking
about
all
of
the
work.
That's
been
done
through
this
effort
to
be
ready
to
inform
our
future
work
plan
item
around
the
can
the
core
arterial
Network
as
part
of
the
can.
We
will
be
undertaking
a
downtown
Mobility
study
where
we'll
be
looking
a
lot
more
comprehensively
at
Mobility
downtown
and,
as
Brett
mentioned,
really
thinking
about
how
the
potential
of
streets
as
public
space
can
really
inform
that
broader.
Look
at
Future
changes
to
Street
their
operations,
their
design
Etc.
So
it's
something
that
will
definitely
be.
L
Thank
you
and
then
one
last
clarifying
question.
I
noticed
in
a
couple
of
places
a
study
mentioned
parklets
as
helping
transform
sections
of
roadway
into
space
for
cyclists,
I
mean
it
said,
pedestrians
and
cyclists,
but
I
was
just
wondering
you
know
you.
You
mentioned
that
they
could
have
bike
parking
and
potentially
bike
tools.
Are
there
any
other?
What
other
the
other
benefits
for
cyclists
when
it
comes
to
parklets.
F
That's
a
great
question:
I
mean
it
is
those
elements
ultimately
and
the
sighting
of
them
to
coincide
really
with
the
right
sort
of
destination.
Rival
points
with
for
the
cycling
Network,
so
wanting
to
really
create
the
ability
for
people
to
actually,
if
we're
wanting
to
have
people
sort
of
Drive,
less
and
and
arrive
through
other,
more
sustainable
modes,
more,
creating
the
sort
of
convenience,
the
the
the
service
equipment
and
the
parking
to
do
so.
F
Such
that
we're
really
making
biking
as
convenient
as
possible
and
having
the
location
of
the
bike
parking
and
the
density
of
bike
parking
actually
really
match
the
use.
Because
one
of
our
observations
ultimately
is
that
downtown
does
have
bike
parking
in
it.
But
it's
of
a
style
and
a
variety.
That's
not
really
allowing
for
that
many
bikes
to
really
be
cram
packed
in
near
each
other,
and
so
we
really
want
to
create
that
convenience
factor.
L
N
Thanks
Tara
first
I
just
want
to
express
some
gratitude
for
the
process.
Subcommunity
SubCom
subcommittee,
I
should
say
they
did
a
great
work
in
in
certainly
in
the
engagement
in
getting
up
and
running.
This
was
done
in
short
order
and,
to
be
frank,
doing
this
kind
of
Engagement
over
the
winter
months
of
December
January
is
pretty
remarkable.
N
I
I
wish
Sarah
Huntley
were
here
because
she
deserves
tons
of
Kudos
because
she
warned
us
she
said:
oh
you're,
doing
engagement
in
January,
that's
not
going
to
be
good,
and
lo
and
behold
we
had
the
best
turnout
from
a
be
heard.
Boulder
survey
that
we've
ever
had
on
any
issue,
so
so
just
credit
to
the
team
and
being
able
to
get
the
word
out
and
be
able
to
do
Outreach
and
engagement
in
a
time.
That's
traditionally
just
been
really
bad
for
it.
N
So
I
think
that
set
the
tone
for
us
to
have
a
sampling
of
really
where
we
want
to
go
with
things.
So
I
just
want
to
appreciate
you
guys.
For
that.
You
know.
One
thing
I
want
to
just
sort
of
touch
on
is
sort
of
a
broadening
of
data
point
I,
know,
sort
of
Amanda
brought
up
and
I'll
get
to
a
question
in
a
second
it
just
sort
of
leads
to
it
is
that
the
survey
itself
was
not
necessarily
a
scientific.
N
You
know
a
study
because
of
its
numbers,
but
in
the
broader
context
of
everything
else,
we've
gathered
the
600
plus
emails.
We
got
last
fall
a
number
of
different
social
media
surveys
that
went
out
myself
included
and
a
few
others
that
86
percent
is
a
steadily
consistent
number
among
all
of
those
sampling.
N
How
did
we
balance
and
how
do
we
reconcile
what
is
clearly
that
Community
need
from
that?
We
see
in
the
survey
to
some
concerns
from
the
businesses
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
like
because
I
I
see,
recommendations
and
I'm
not
and
I.
Don't
see
that
that
we
necessarily
reconcile
those
perceived
differences
and
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
how
we
navigated
some
of
that
in
order
to
arrive
at
the
recommendations
that
were
there.
E
I
can
speak
to
the
community
engagement
thing
to
Matt
and
I
know.
We
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
at
the
subcommittee
meeting
and
then
we'll
ask
Brett
to
talk
about
how
it
finalized
our
recommendations,
but
from
the
community
engagement
standpoint,
you're
right,
we
have
differing
opinions
and
they're
hard
to
weigh
it's
not
appropriate
to
count
and
say
you
know
this
number
of
community
individuals
said
this,
and
this
number
of
business
owners
said
that
and
and
it's
just
not
appropriate,
to
weigh
them.
E
They
enjoyed
what
they
experienced
in
large
part
and
it
increased
their
overall
appeal,
and
we
also
know
from
West
owner
West
parole
business
owners
that
they
had
a
very
opposite
and
unanimous
experience
than
the
individual
community
members
and
so
I
think
if
we
can
just
start
by
maybe
leaving
that
unresolved
and
it's
for
us
to
discuss
about
what
to
do
with
that
feedback.
But
I
know
we
want
to
conflate
those
two
things
and
I
think
it's
important
to
to
know
that
they
they
may
just
have
to
live
as
opposing
opinions
in
this.
E
F
N
F
I'll
just
add
one
more
piece:
that's
more
about
sort
of
the
general
then
and
and
we'll
get
there.
F
Then
it
is
as
just
as
Amanda
said
and
I'll
also
add
that
something
that
we
really
wanted
to
think
about
is
how
do
we
and
I
mentioned
this
in
the
presentation,
it's
kind
of
a
compromise
of
trying
to
find
the
moments
in
which
we
can
really
maximize
positive
impact,
while
minimizing
potential
risk
for
negative
impacts
that
have
been
identified
as
the
gains
that
we
can
get
as
places
to
gather
for
people
versus
the
operational,
logistical
and
potentially
economic
challenges
that
others
might
experience.
F
And
so
what
we've
really
tried
to
do
with
our
menu
of
recommendations
is
find
those
moments
of
compromise
between
those
kind
of
polar
challenges,
or
you
know,
sort
of
differences
of
opinion
and
find
the
locations
that
can
really
kind
of
meet
in
the
middle
and
mitigate
potential
risk
on
either
end.
Ultimately
and
again,
you
know,
we
really
see
the
pop-up
and
the
project
in
and
of
itself
as
an
engagement
tool.
F
That's
really
about
continuing
to
test
the
hypotheses
that
we
have
and
thinking
through
this
idea
of
experimentation
of
bringing
bringing
sort
of
similar
or
different
approaches
to
how
we
activate
streets
to
different
parts
of
downtown,
to
continue
testing
our
hypotheses
and
seeing
if
they
stand
up
and
and
show
us
the
same
challenges
in
other
locations
or
New
Opportunities.
F
N
I
appreciate
it,
no,
it's
they're
all
sort
of
related.
My
last
question
on
this
front
was
and-
and
you
sort
of
brought
that
up,
Brad
and
I-
think
it's
just
maybe
to
help
me
I'm
still
trying
to
learn.
The
terms
myself
is
is
how
we
Define
activation,
because
I
think
I've
I've
heard
it
defined
as
sort
of
these
special
events.
These
pop-ups
I've
heard
that
parklets
are
our
activation,
and
so
I
do,
but
I
maybe
just
want
clarification.
N
Clarification
are,
is
the
out
with
the
outdoor
dining
that
we
have
around
the
city
be
considered
activation
in
the
same
light
as
a
special
event
or
or
these
partlets
that
we're
discussing
I
just
want
to
sort
of
try
to
understand,
what's
all
under
the
umbrella
of
what
we
would
classify
as
activation
and
then
that
of
course,
goes
through.
You
know.
Those
goals
of
you
know
activation
needs
to
lead
street
closure,
so
I
just
want
to
know
how
we
classify
Activation.
N
F
Absolutely
yeah,
yeah
and
so
I
mean
there
are
levels
to
Activation.
So,
first
of
all,
what
I
would
say
activation
is
it's
sort
of
the
the
free
experience
that
people
can
take
a
part
of
in
the
public
realm
and
there
are
different
levels
of
it.
So
we
have
the
kind
of
special
event
as
you're
describing
it.
F
The
thing
that
could
be
as
this
like
extremely
well
managed,
well
plotted
out
well
in
advance
to
have
a
large
impact
sort
of
festival-like
atmosphere
shut
down
the
whole
street
for
something
like
this
and
that's
that's
sort
of
the
the
big
end
of
activation,
there's
also
the
smaller
end
of
activation,
which
can
start
to
lean
towards
passive
elements
and
therefore
their
impact
can
be
smaller,
ultimately
from
a
day
to
day,
but
they
they
are
important
to
the
rhythm
of
street
life.
F
This
is
kind
of
like
the
parklet
itself,
where
it's
just
providing
non-commercial
space
for
people
to
spend
time
and
then
there's
somewhere
in
between
that's
kind
of
this
more
active
activity
or
we
can
call
them
happenings.
It's
not
quite
the
level
of
the
full
event,
but
it's
different
activities
or
little
games
that
are
placed
out
for
people
to
freely
enjoy
during
the
day
kind
of
the
little
sweeteners
of
the
deal
that
get
people
to
stop
and
spend
more
time
in
a
place
because
they
happened
upon
yoga
class.
F
That's
taking
place
in
a
space,
for
example,
you
know
something:
that's
not
the
scale
of
the
full
party,
the
full
event,
but
something
that
might
be
recurring
and
small
scale
and
people
start
to
build
a
bit
of
a
mental
map
or
a
routine
around
a
certain
experience.
That's
a
little
bit
less
cumbersome
to
produce.
N
F
That
it
is
an
activation,
it's
a
form
of
commercial
activation
which
has
you
know
its
own
sort
of
externalities
and
sort
of
impacts
it
it
in
and
of
itself
it's
it's
not
a
complete
portfolio
of
activation,
but
as
I'm
describing
it's
it's
an
element
of
activation.
Yes
great.
Thank
you.
O
Thanks
Tara
I
think
well,
first
I
want
to
say
hi
to
Bill
cowheran
hi
Bill.
Thank
you
and
Amanda
thanks
for
being
here
and
presenting
and
the
work
you're
doing
on
this
and
I'm
gonna
tear
I'm
gonna
be
a
little
bit
off
script.
So
just
just
please
ride
with
it:
I
don't
I,
don't
know
where
better
to
I'm
gonna
form
it
as
a
question
and
I.
Don't
see
it
fitting
better.
Well,.
O
I
I'm
struggling
a
little
bit
with
this
whole
concept.
I
think
that
you
know
when
we
were
talking
about
West
Pearl
closure.
There
were
some
things
that
appealed
to
me
about
it.
O
In
terms
of
you
know:
improving
pedestrian
and
cycling,
infrastructure
and
kind
of
a
funky
new
space
and
I
get
that
we're
going
with
that
with
activation,
but
also
you
know
we,
we
opened
the
meeting
with
an
update
on
propane
tank
explosions
and
we're
hearing
so
much
from
the
community
about
like
the
space
that
we
already
have
not
being
not
feeling
usable
to
community
members
so
and
I
think
that
activation
is
supposed
to
help
with
that
with
sort
of
some
of
the
encampment
issues.
O
O
You
know
it's
not
going
to
be
a
surprise
to
anyone
and
I
hate
to
be
a
broken
record,
but
I
wonder:
might
it
not
be
more
financially
prudent
to
stand
up
like
a
safe
outdoor
space
where
we
can
help
people
be
somewhere
else
and
then
try
and
activate
the
space,
because
I
do
think
that
it's
a
little
bit,
maybe
tone
deaf
of
us
to
be
looking
at
doing
this
without
being
somewhat
responsive
to
people
need
a
place
more
places
to
be,
and
that
you
know
on
one
side
on
the
other
side,
people
aren't
feeling
like
they.
O
They
want
to
come
to
these
spaces.
So
I
don't
know
it
feels
like
this
may
be
an
exercise
in
futility
to
not
hopefully
stand
up
a
sanctioned
outdoor
space
first
so
again,
Tara
that
that
is
Off
Script
and
my
rhetorical
question
is
to
Nuria.
Might
it
be
prudent
to
to
look
at
what
we're
going
to
talk
about
on
April,
13th
or
see
what's
coming
down
the
pike
and
then
get
back
into
this
conversation?
So
there's
the
the
question
I
had
to
do
it
because
Tara
said
this
is
questions.
O
I
mean
it
was,
it
was
probably
rhetorical
and
it's
more
probably
for
colleagues
consideration
but
I
just
feel
like
again
like
there's
an
elephant
in
the
room
here
of
like
these.
These
spaces
are
not
feeling
I,
don't
think
it's
necessarily
a
matter
of
needing
more
spaces
and
and
activating
new
I
think.
Maybe
we
need
to
take
care
of
the
space
we
have
and
the
people
who
are
on
those
spaces
right
now
and
and
giving
people
another
option
of
a
place
to
be
and
and
then
conversation
thanks.
B
P
On
my,
my
question
is
tangential
to
what
Rachel
was
saying.
We
have
some
funds
for
this
year
and
am
I
assuming
that
in
going
forward
for
other
years,
we're
going
to
need
to
find
a
million
dollars
per
year
for
this
program.
My
question
is:
do
we
have
a
an
identified
funding
source?
Have
we
identified
any
programs
we
wish
to
cut
in
order
to
provide
an
extra
million
dollars
a
year,
or
are
we
simply
assuming
the
infinite
growth
of
sales
tax
revenue
to
bail
us
out?
P
So
if
someone
could
could
take
a
shot
at
that,
I'd
be
very
interested
in
hearing
the
response.
D
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
take
your
first
shot
at
it
and
really
welcome
other
teammates
to
to
chime
in
I.
I
would
say
we
do
not
see
the
same
level
of
upfront
investment
needing
to
perpetuate
into
the
future,
so
in
other
words,
if
we
create
spaces
successfully
during
this
pilot
program
this
year
next
year
and
the
year
beyond
that
become
the
Public's
space,
we
can
begin
to
reach
out
and
say
to
different
groups
around
the
community.
D
Hey,
would
you
like
to
host
a
festival,
here's
a
space.
You
could
do
it
at
hey.
Would
you
like
to
do
a
sidewalk
sale,
here's
a
way
that
that
can
be
enhanced.
D
So
some
of
the
elements
that
I
mentioned
early
on
about
being
very
cost
heavy
up
front
is
again
the
renting
of
materials,
those
types
of
things
which,
presumably,
as
we
lived
into
decided
spaces,
then
we
would
have
the
capital
we
would
be
able
to
budget
that
into
ongoing
operational
expenses,
but
that
does
get
into
the
bigger
budget
discussion
and
how
much
is
is
appropriate
for
activating
up
streets
and
reimagining
those
verses
versus
other
choices.
Of
course,
Mark
I
would
say
you
know
in
terms
of
a
funding
source.
D
We've
talked
about
the
short
term
in
terms
of
longer
term.
That
would
be
first
with
adjustment
to
budget
and
then
next
year,
of
course,
into
the
into
the
longer
budget,
but
I
invite
others.
We've
certainly
had
a
version
of
this
discussion
internally,
invite
other
other
folks
to
weigh
in
as
well
on
the
team.
P
I
think
that's
a
pretty
good
answer.
Brad,
but
I
only
want
to
point
out
that
we
have
dozens
and
dozens
and
dozens
of
things
we
need
to
fund
and
we
have
no
source
of
funding
for
them.
So
that's
got
to
be
weighed
against
this.
B
B
Question,
thank
you.
That's
something
we
can
do
great.
Okay,
now
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
locations.
Let's
start
with
13th
Street
and
Bob.
You
have
any
questions.
Any
comments.
Do
you
want
to
answer
questions
two
and
three
either
one
and
perhaps
we
can
put
somewhere
in
the
chat
questions
two
and
three.
I
Yeah,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
apologize
for
keeping
my
camera
off.
I
have
a
very,
very
bad
internet
connection
here,
I've
been
booted
a
couple
times
already
and
so
I'm
going
to
keep
my
camera
off
in
hopes
that
I
can
make
it
to
the
end
of
this
conversation.
Second
I
want
to
welcome
back
Bill,
Cameron
and
Amanda
Cole.
We
miss
you
guys,
thanks
for
being
back
and
helping
us
with
this.
I
I
do
have
a
question
I'm
still
on
questions,
I'm
sure
we'll
have
a
lot
to
say
here
in
a
second,
but
my
question
is
narrowly
focused.
The
13th
Street
Brett
I
appreciate
your
explanation
of
the
three
tiers
or
levels
of
activation
I'm,
trying
to
understand
what
level
of
activation
I
know.
Mark
asked
the
question
about
money,
but
I'm,
trying
to
understand
the
question
about
what
and
how
and
when
we're
going
to
activate
13th
Street.
Does
that
give
your
level
one
passive
activation,
something
a
little
higher
than
that
something
even
higher
than
that?
I
And
if
so
I'm
just
kind
of
looking
at
the
calendar
going
gosh
it's
it's
March
23rd
who's,
going
to
activate
13th
Street.
You
know
two
months
and
and
how
are
we
going
to
do
it
if
we're
getting
about
the
money
which
Mark
great,
is
a
good
point
about
money
but
like?
How
are
we
going
to
act?
What
level
and
how
are
we
going
to
activate
13th
Street
in
a
couple
months.
D
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
question,
councilman
Yates,
so
that
that
is
the
needle
we've
been
trying
to
thread
in
in
trying
to
prepare
for
the
possibility
of
various
types
of
activation
and
programming
Outreach
to
various
potential
Partners,
including,
of
course,
the.
D
Partnership
but
others
like
the
chamber
and
and
others
as
well.
We
will
continue
to
try
to
do
that,
but
the
other
form
of
activation
that
would
be
available
on
13th
and
other
spaces,
but
are
those
different
pop-up
elements
activations?
That
Brett
spoke
to
we're
kind
of
trying
to
fly
the
plane
here
while
we
build
it
at
the
same
time.
So
it's.
A
A
D
I
think
you
know
one
thing
to
really
kind
of
underscore:
is
that
we're
really
looking
at
forward
to
this
whole
next
phase
of
Engagement
going
into
the
summer,
so
that
we
do
have
the
additional
time
and
space
to
have
collaboration
with
a
greater
number
of
Partners,
get
greater
consensus
around
how
these
spaces
can
be
used
and
that
understanding
of
the
users
and
and
build
that
level
of
empathy
that
we
want
to
get
from
from
different
users
from
nearby
businesses
and
and
restaurants,
that
type
of
thing
as
well?
D
So
it
so
it's
not
possible
to
give
just
one
answer
other
than
that's.
That's
where
we're
running
to
I
will
mention
that
chip
is
also
available
on
this
call,
and
maybe
this
would
be
an
appropriate
time
for
him
to
to
speak
a
little
bit
about
how
they've
been
just
an
active
partner
in
trying
to
Bringing
programming
commitments
forward
and
and
with
the
potential
potential
for
more
as
well.
I
I
Q
That
that's
not
what
I'm
gonna
tell
you
I,
think
you
know
where.
Obviously,
as
you
know,
Bob
this,
these
recommendations
do
align
with
our
vision
and
division
plan
that
we
worked
with
the
city
on
on
activating
13th
and
and
we
see
a
lot
of
potential
over
a
long
term.
But
your
concerns
about
the
timing.
I,
you
know
we
share
I,
think
there's.
There
are
things
that
can
happen.
Q
I
think
we've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
McKenzie
from
the
farmers
market,
as
have
the
Consulting
team,
but
I
I
think
it
is
a
a
longer
term
Prospect
in
our
opinion,
so
we're
we're
certainly
excited
to
continue
the
conversation,
but
we're
we're
not
sitting
at
the
gate
ready
to
activate
tomorrow.
Q
We
have,
you
know,
as
you
know,
a
great
calendar
of
events
throughout
the
year
and
we've
added
a
number
of
things,
including
the
app
free
Festival
that
happened
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
we're
doing
a
number
of
events
throughout
the
downtown,
including
some
street
closures.
This
year
and
and
looking
to
you
know
what
we
can
do
to
continue
activating
in
other
spaces,
but
this
the
scale
that
we're
looking
at
in
these
proposals,
where
we're
certainly
not
single-handedly,
are
able
to
take
that
on
this
quickly.
D
J
I
think
that
what
I
wanted
to
lead
into
is
to
remind
folks
that,
in
the
action
plan,
I
think
we
pointed
to
some
examples
of
how
we
could
program
the
space
or
activate
the
space
on
13th
Street,
and
so
we
are
reaching
out
to
look
for
a
pop-ups
manager
that
could
have
helped
to
bring
in
folks
that
could
populate
that
area
on
a
Saturday
evening
or
Sunday,
and
that
can
range
with
things
like
movies
or
music
or
maybe
art
lessons
in
conjunction
with
bomoca.
J
We
might
have
parklets
that
could
be
established
there.
It
might
be
more
games
on
Sunday
like
cornhole,
or
something
like
that
Brett.
Is
there
anything
that
I
missed
there,
that
you
want
to
add
yeah.
F
Definitely
I
mean
that's
a
really
fair,
characterization
and
I.
Think
again,
the
the
I
think
the
point
is
well
taken
about
how
to
implement
this
and
I
think
the
Contours
of
how
frequent
the
programming
can
be
and
how
active
versus
passive
will
be
determined
about,
like
the
actual
Partnerships
that
can
be
generated,
and
so
the
pop-up
manager
is
going
to
be
holding
that
responsibility
and
modulating.
F
Ultimately,
what
is
deployed
and
again
kind
of
treating
this
this
first
season
of
it
as
that
experimentation
to
understand
what
can
we
stand
up
quickly
in
this
summer
time
frame
and
then
growing
it
into
the
future
and
sort
of
using
the
the
idea
of
standing
up
some
programming
and
getting
people
excited
about
that
to
then
also
engage
with
the
people
who
show
up
and
better
understand
what
is
the
type
of
events
they're
looking
forward
to
in
the
future
too
and
sort
of
beginning
to
almost
kick
off
the
cyclical
nature
of
people
getting
excited
to
help
co-produce
some
of
the
events
moving
forward
as
well.
I
Noreen,
where
are
we
in,
as
you
mentioned,
a
pop-up
manager
sounds
like
downtown.
Builder
partnership
is
not
in
a
position
to
do
that,
necessarily
at
that
scale
at
least
so.
Have
we
have
we
identified?
Somebody
are
we
doing
an
RFI
RFP
where
I
mean
again
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
the
fact
this
is
March
23rd
and
we're
talking
about
something
two
months
away
our
or
do
we
have
somebody,
and
you
don't
have
to
mention
their
name,
but
have
we
have
hired
somebody
to
do
this?
For
us.
J
We
have
not
hired
someone
yet,
but
we
have
shared
the
scope
of
work
with
a
number
of
events,
management,
type
firms,
and
we
do
have
at
least
one
that
is
interested
and
does
seem
like
they
could
be
ready.
But
to
your
point
it
is
a
very
short
time
frame
so
and,
as
Brad
mentioned,
we're
trying
to
do
both
implementation
planning,
as
well
as
bring
these
recommendations
to
you
all.
But
we
do
have
one
firm
that
is
interested.
I
R
Just
have
a
one
question
about
13th
Street,
which
is
well
I.
Guess
one
thing
I'm
struggling
with
is
not
having
a
good
sense
of
what
costs
are
associated
with
what
actions,
because
I
do
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
different
trade-offs
of
needs
in
our
community
kind
of
on
a
broader
sense
and
how
much
we'd
be
spending
on
some
of
these
proposals
that
are
in
front
of
us.
R
So
one
one
question
that
I'll
ask
is
on
13th
Street
I'm,
going
to
make
an
assumption
here
and
just
maybe
you
can
tell
me
if
it's
correct
or
not
I'm,
going
to
guess
that
on
Saturday,
like
we're
already
closing
the
street
in
the
morning
and
then
reopening
it
in
the
afternoon.
So
I'm
gonna,
guess
that
if
we
say
lengthen
the
closure
on
Saturday
for
some
number
of
hours,
maybe
that's
three
hours
or
five
hours.
Or
what
have
you
that
we
still?
R
We
have
a
probably
similar
amount
of
work
needed
to
reopen
it
as
we
already
spend,
and
so
it
would
be
a
a
cheaper
intervention
to
have
a
few
additional
hours
of
activation
on
Saturday
on
13th
Street,
probably
by
a
really
substantial
amount,
then
closing
it
also
on
Sunday
and
activating
the
whole
day
on
Sunday.
Do
you
think
is
that
a
fair
assumption.
D
I
think
that
is,
and
that
does
get
to
I-
think
what
we
can
commit
to
as
a
team
of
looking
at
those
abilities
to
capitalize
on
things
we're
already
doing.
I
think
that
speaks
a
little
bit
to
comments
that
have
been
made
about
outdoor
dining,
for
example,
and
we
are
robustly
you
know,
working
with
those
groups.
It
speaks
to
the
activation
that
the
downtown
Boulder
partnership
is
speaking
to.
D
But
yes,
Mr
Mayor
to
your
point,
I
think
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
being
smart
about
how
we
can
capitalize
on
those
types
of
things
got.
B
R
Great
well
so
so
then,
I'll
just
advocate
for
going
in
that
direct
Direction,
specifically
I
I,
really
like
what
you're
saying
I.
Think
I
like
the
idea
of
additional
closure
time
on
13th
Street,
but
I
am
sensitive
to
the
resources
involved
and
people
are
already
used
to
going
down
on
Saturday
and
having
car
free
time
on
13th
Street,
and
if
we
could
lengthen
the
closure
and
then
activate
a
few
hours.
R
Maybe
that's
a
relatively
affordable
thing
that
we
could
do,
and
you
know,
and
and
build
on
the
successes
that
we
already
have
on
Saturdays
there
and
they'll
just
throw
it
in
terms
of
you
know,
maybe
some
specific
things
you've
thrown
out
some
great
ideas,
but
one
thing
I
think
about
is
okay.
Once
we've
taken
the
farmers
market
booths
away,
you
know,
there's
some
cultures
that
have
significant
immigrant
communities
in
Boulder
that
have
really
vibrant
street
life.
R
You
know
I,
think
about
a
Mexican
market,
for
example,
and
I
and
I
wonder
you
know
when
we're
hearing
about
say
some
folks
feeling
like
they
they
might
be
strangers.
They
might
feel
like
strangers
when
they're
coming
into
downtown.
Sometimes
maybe
this
could
be
an
opportunity
to
both
really
activate
the
space
on
some
Saturday
afternoons,
but
also
include
some
of
our
populations
that
maybe
do
not
spend
as
much
time
in
downtown
right
now
and
so
just
throw
that
out.
R
As
you
know,
maybe
our
Mexican-American
Community
or
Nepalese
American
communities
or
other
other
immigrant
communities
could
be
a
great
way
to
tap
into
some
activation
and
create
some
new
opportunities
for
folks
who
don't
currently
have
them
and
also
yeah.
So
then
that
could
be
something
the
entire
Community
could
really
benefit
from
and
enjoy
so
I'll.
Throw
that
out
there
for
13th
Street,
but
but
maybe
Sunday
is,
is
too
expensive
and
we
start
with
Saturday.
N
Thanks
Tara
and
Aaron
I
appreciated
those
comments,
certainly
about
how
we
can
sort
of
lift
up
some
of
those
more
cultural
activities
in
green
and
create
again
that
consistency
factor
that
that
Brett
was
referring
to
so
I.
Think.
N
That's
really
critical
is
consistency
in
order
for
people
to
build
that
to
re
to
either
rebuild
or
reinforce
that
mental
map
that
they're
growing
of
an
area
and
so
I
I
definitely
support
where
you're
going
with
that
on
Aaron
for
sure
a
question
I
have
is
sort
of
on
the
east
side
and
I
and
I
get
that
you
know
activating
the
area
through
the
farmer's
market
or
other
peripheral
events
is
great
but
they're
transient
by
definition,
because
there's
nothing
really
anchoring
that
space,
except
for
the
Tea
House
in
bmoka
and
if
all
goes
well.
N
Bimoka
will
be
vacating
that
space
to
go
to
a
much
better
facility
up
north
that
hopefully
they'll
be
able
to
build,
which
leaves
really
the
tea
houses.
The
only
real
substantive
thing,
and
so
a
question
I
have
is
maybe
for
Nuria
and
Brad
and
others.
What's
our
plan
to
do?
What
are
we
doing
with
all
of
that
space
on
the
east
side
of
13th,
because
I
think
of
whatever
we're
doing,
has
to
have
long-term
viability
and
I
know
we're
going
to
test
now?
But
if
we
don't
have
a
robust,
active
environment,
that's
intrinsically
active!
N
N
Think
of
what
happens
when
the
conference
center
is
built
and
that
wonderful
Corridor,
we
have
as
an
opportunity
to
take
people
from
the
hill
Conference
Center
campus
down
13th
down
through
that
Causeway
and
up
into
downtown
and
so
I'm
just
sort
of
curious.
How
they're
linked
together,
if,
if
we're
linking
them
at
all,
no.
D
Matt,
that's
a
wonderful
lead-in
to
what
I
think
is
a
very
important
part
of
this,
and
it
speaks
to
what
we
talked
about
a
little
bit
during
the
retreat,
which
is
the
fact
that
we've
got
12
different
planning
processes.
No!
No!
And
how
do
we
coordinate
that
so
I'm
going
to
ask
Kathleen
King
to
speak
to
that?
We've
recently
tapped
her
to
be
the
facilitator
across
multiple
departments
and
to
to
coordinate
multiple
Visions.
Just
to
your
point
so
Kathleen.
If
you
can
kind
of
tell
us
where
we're
going
or
starting
to
go
with
that.
G
Yeah,
so
no
that's
a
that's
a
great
question.
There's
a
lot
of
projects
and
exciting
kind
of
planning
and
design
work
going
on
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
G
So
we
have
a
couple
of
different
cross-departmental
teams
that
are
going
to
be
working
on
the
Civic
area
in
general,
but
specifically
we're
looking
at
phase
two
so
east
of
Broadway
and
then
in
2024
on
our
work
plan,
we'll
be
looking
again
at
that
eastbook
end
area,
so
that
block
between
13th
and
14th
and
thinking
about
how
does
that
integrate
and
interact
with
the
park?
How
do
we
build
greater
connections
to
downtown
Boulder
Station?
How
is
it
you
know,
make
these
joyful
and
exciting
places
in
downtown.
G
So
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
folks
that
are
going
to
be
working
on
that
over
the
next,
probably
five
years
to
realize
some
of
these
Visions,
but
we're
definitely
thinking
about
all
of
that
and
and
really
trying
to
coordinate.
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
excited
about
for
the
opportunity
of
this
13th
street
closure.
And
this
idea
of
experimentation
is
we'll
get
a
chance
to
test
out
some
ideas,
some
designs
and
that
could
really
inform
the
design
work
for
those
spaces.
As
we
move
forward.
N
I
appreciate
that
Kathleen
and
thanks
for
making
that
connection,
Brad
and
I'm
glad
that
the
timing
somewhat
works
and
it
seems
like
it
also
works
with
the
can
of
downtown
streets.
Mobility
study
that's
happening
next
year,
so
I
think
some
of
these
might
just
there's
just
Serendipity
with
some
of
these.
That
I
think
we
can
take
full
advantage
of
the
other
question
about
13th,
or
maybe
slash
comment
is
because
again
I
go
back
to
that
sort
of
Downtown
Vision
plan.
I
know
that's
not
a
plan
that
we
adopted.
N
N
So
I'm
just
sort
of
curious
about
how
do
we
get
to
a
place
where
we
can
actually
start
to
build
those
actual
connections
and
where
this
piloting
actually
allows
us
to
test
them
in
certain
forms?
Are
others.
D
D
We
haven't
used
this
term,
but
sometimes
sometimes
these
types
of
experimentations
and
urban
planning
are
called
radical
experimentation
and
when
we
think
about
the
dollars
to
do
things
like
parklets
and
activation
and
such
we
really
are
informing
these
future
planning
processes
in
a
relatively
inexpensive
way
in
real
time
and
in
real
life,
so
that
as
we
go
through
that
planning
process,
we
can
tweak
and
say
boy.
Those
connections
really
didn't
work.
The
way
we
thought
or
this
activation
type
doesn't
work.
D
The
spot
is
somewhere
else,
and
so
you
know
maybe
we've
we've
underemphasized
the
ability,
the
benefit
that
will
come
out
of
this,
to
use
this
as
real-time
experimentation
over
not
just
this
year,
which
again
we're
trying
to
run
very
fast
to
do
some
specific
things
with,
but
over
the
next
three
years,
which
will
dovetail
with
these
planning
processes
so
that,
as
these
12
different
planning
processes
that
are
planned,
we're
not
just
putting
up
posters
of
things
that
could
be
and
put
your
sticky
dot
on
there.
D
F
I'll,
just
add
to
that
too,
just
to
speak
about
I,
think
more
of
the
near
term
with
the
intent
behind
the
recommendations
for
13th
I.
Think
the
points
will
take
in
that
we
did.
Look
at
the
other
segments
of
13th.
Really
trying
to
understand
is:
is
there
a
way
to
really
with
this
first
iteration
of
the
pop-up
create
that
connectivity
up
to
Pearl?
F
In
our
urbanism
analysis,
we
sort
of
came
to
the
conclusion
that
those
Northern
segments
between
Pearl
and
Canyon,
who
weren't
the
most
ripe
for
the
public
life
that
we
could
achieve
in
this
near
term,
quick
to
kind
of
stand-up
program
that
we
can
get
in
the
summer.
But
we
do
think
what
we
can
do
is
again.
F
We
have
the
anchor
of
13th
Street
between
Canada
and
Arapahoe,
does
create
that
sense
of
destination
and
then
use
the
pop-up
kit,
the
sort
of
more
Deployable
elements
as
breadcrumbs
in
a
way
to
really
think
about
how
we
can
knit
together
from
Pearl
South
to
that
site.
We
have
some
recommendations
in
the
action
plan
that
speak
about
deploying
things
along
that
Corridor
in
particular
to
start
to
create
that
sense
of
connective
and
understand
that
I
think.
Ideally,
there
would
be
a
stronger
sense
of
connectivity
through
more.
F
B
I'm
just
going
to
colloquy
quickly,
because
I
can
now
that
I'm
leaving
the
meeting
and
I'm
going
to
say
that
I
wouldn't
mind
if
you
at
least
went
one
block
up
in
some
sort
of
activation,
really
simple
activation,
whether
it
be
cornhole
or
lighting
or
something
that
just
makes
people
cross
the
street
to
some
sort
of
something
pulling
them
across
Canyon
I.
That's
simple!
That's
not
hard
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
Let's
move
on
to
Nicole.
H
Awesome,
thank
you.
I,
don't
have
any
questions
about
13th
Street
just
had
some
comments.
First
of
all,
just
in
reference
to
what
Matt
was
just
saying
about
bimoka
I
heard
that
bimoka
told
planning
board
that
they
don't
intend
to
vacate
that
space
and
they're
planning
to
operate
in
both
locations.
H
So
just
wanted
to
add
that
so
13th
Street
to
me
makes
sense
as
a
top
location.
If
we're
going
to
do
a
closure,
it's
already
a
community
Gathering
space,
as
others
have
mentioned,
people
are
already
used
to
coming
there
at
certain
times
of
the
week.
It
really
seems
the
cheapest
and
easiest
place
to
close,
but
I'd
still
be
really
curious
to
see
what
the
cost
looks
like
on
all
of
this.
It's
also
a
connection
between
ncu
Boulder
or
and
Boulder
High
to
downtown,
and
it's
a
connection
between
the
revitalizing
hill
and
downtown
as
well.
H
H
For
me,
the
engagement
gaps
in
the
survey
and
the
entire
process
were
really
pretty
intense
when
it
came
to
hearing
from
the
communities
that
the
community
connectors
and
residents
represent,
and
the
people
who
are
least
likely
to
be
downtown
so
I
checked
in
with
Ryan
Hanson
earlier
today.
Just
to
hear
more
about
what
the
connectors
said,
and
he
said
they
thought
13th
Street
was
a
spot
that
makes
sense
to
if
we
want
to
invest
in
street
closures.
H
Rachel
I
hear
your
point
and
I'm
with
you
and
so
see
if
we
get
to
that
discussion
later,
but
the
most
important
thing
to
me
here
is
ultimately
not
where
we
do
a
street
closure,
but
what
and
how
we
do
it.
This
is
another
thing
that
the
community,
connectors
and
residents
said
I'm
more
interested
in
bringing
a
more
diverse
group
of
people.
H
Downtown
and
I
really
want
to
use
the
process
of
creating
more
events
and
activating
new
spaces
as
one
that
itself
is
strengthening
relationships
and
building
Community
with
groups
that
currently
feel
excluded
like
Aaron
and
others.
I
think
it's
awful
that
some
of
the
connectors
said
they
felt
like
strangers
here
in
Boulder
and
downtown.
That's
really
terrible
and
we
should
be
investing
and
building
the
authentic
Partnerships
that
make
everybody
feel
like
they
belong
here.
H
I'd
really:
love
to
see
us
Focus
funding
for
events
and
activations
to
groups
that
aren't
reflected
in
the
engagement
and
that
represent
the
people
who
say
they
don't
feel
comfortable
downtown.
We
could
offer
grants
to
Youth
and
college
student
groups,
bypoc
groups
and
others
to
host
events,
maybe
through
our
existing
HRC
or
Arts
commission
Grant
mechanisms.
H
So,
anyway,
that
way,
we
can
just
make
sure
that
we're
spending
money
on
these
closures
and
Community
Building
opportunities
and
doing
so
in
a
way
that
prioritizes
the
groups
that
have
been
historically
underrepresented
under
resourced
and
that
feel
like
strangers
downtown
it
feels
like
it
would
give
us
some
more
opportunities,
also
to
engage
with
those
groups
who
weren't
engaged
in
the
past
few
months
as
part
of
this
process
and
get
some
feedback
from
them.
H
But
I
hope
that
in
the
process
of
doing
this,
if
we
choose
to
close
this
street
or
another
Street,
we
are
intentionally
encouraging
a
broader
range
of
people
to
use
these
public
spaces
and
to
use
downtown
in
general.
L
First,
I
have
a
question
about
currently
when
we
close,
13th
I,
believe
we
use
barricades.
Does
that
mean
we
constantly
I
saw
in
the
report?
It
said
when
we
do
that
kind
of
closure.
We
have
to
have
flagging
things
like
that.
Is
that
currently
how
we
do
that
I
believe
it
is,
but.
F
L
Can
I
add
something
to
that
too?
Maybe
you
could
answer
both
also
so
would
there.
This
is
a
street
that
we
close
regularly
for
the
farmers
market
and
that
seems
likely
to
continue
in
the
future.
Is
there
potentially
like
cost
savings,
also
if
we
were
to
put
in
bollards
or
things
like
that,
so
that
we
wouldn't
have
to
do
flagging
or
we
could
do
reduced
flagging
or
that
might
also
improve
safety
sort
of
thoughts
on
all.
T
Yeah
good
evening,
my
name
is
Devin
Jocelyn
I'm,
the
city's
principal
traffic
engineer
Lauren.
That
is
one
thing
that
we've
definitely
been
looking
at
to
your
first
question,
though,
what
we've
done
with
the
farmers
market
is
yes,
we
do
require
traffic
control
devices
to
be
put
out
to
support
that
closure.
What
we've
allowed
is
that
the
market,
volunteers
and
staff
can
set
those
barricades.
T
That's
a
bit
of
a
compromise
that
we've
made
with
them
that
they
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
a
traffic
control
company
that
they're
paying
to
set
out
those
devices,
so
they
have
kind
of
have
the
kit
of
devices
that
they
store
near
the
market
and
put
it
out
as
needed
for
that
closure.
With
respect
to
things
this
spring
and
summer,
we
are
exploring
more
innovative
ideas.
T
That
would
need
to
get
in
there
to
support
that
so
we're
looking
at
the
cost
of
that
and
and
benefits
how
that
might
compare
with
regularly
paying
a
traffic
control
company
or
relying
on
on
volunteers
to
support
the
traffic
control
devices
needed.
L
Thank
you
for
that,
so
I
feel
a
little
conflicted
over
this
proposal
for
13th
Street,
on
the
one
hand,
like
I
think
that
the
like
the
sort
of
the
facade
map
states
when
the
farmers
market
is
not
going
on
the
sort
of
natural
activation
level
of
the
tenants
and
things
which
is
mostly
the
city
on
that
street
is
not
very
high.
It's
not
that
interesting
of
a
street
and
with
the
park
right
there
there's
a
lot
of
open
space.
That's
easy
to
access!
Also,
the
performance
sort
of
anchor
Zone
is
quite
large.
L
It
just
in
comparison
to
you
know
the
amount
of
space
that
we
would
have
to
fill
and
activate
to
make
this
street
feel
Lively
is
substantial
and
is
a
substantial
undertaking.
I
do
like
that.
It's
sort
of
this
connection
point
between
downtown
and
the
university,
and
could
you
know
that
all
along
13th
all
to
the
creek
into
the
Arboretum
is
a
transportation
connection
that
I
would
like
to
see
strengthened
through
activation.
L
So
I'm
kind
of
leaning
towards
you
know
starting
small
with
this,
that
you
know
extending
the
hours
after
the
farmer's
market
looking
at
how
we
can
improve
the
closer
closure
mechanism
to
make
sure
that
you
know
when
the
street
is
closed,
that
it
is
safe
and
and
also
considering
you
know,
making
trying
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
help
us
activate
that
space
making.
L
You
know
either
using
that
performance
anchor
zone
or
the
Band
Shell
easier
for
the
community
and
trying
to
help
sort
of
encourage
the
community
to
fill
those
spaces
more
regularly.
I,
don't
know
that
that
always
needs
to
be
tied
to
a
street
closure.
I.
Think
that,
depending
on
the
size
of
the
event,
we
might
just
do
that
in
the
existing
space
that
we
have
in
that
area.
But
I
do
think
that
activating
that
area
in
general
doing
some
experiments.
There
feels
like
a
good
idea
and
a
good
direction.
B
B
That
Sunday
just
seems
too
much
right
now
and
that
we
would
do
best
to
just
make
it
successful
on
Saturday
I
do
have
a
dream
because
I'm
I
didn't
get
to
eat
today,
so
it
could
be
because
I'm
hungry
of
food
trucks
being
up
and
down
that
that
area
because
they're
in
the
down
you
know
the
downtown
restaurants
won't
have
that
competition
element
and
I
think
that
that
could
be
really
exciting
for
the
city.
So
that
is
my
dream
and
I
hope
it
is
fulfilled,
and
it's
always
about
me
ask
my
husband.
B
So
that's
the
first
thing,
I
want
to
say
the
other
thing
is
actually
that's
all
I
want
to
say,
because
the
thing
that
I
I
really
agree
with
Nicole
on
is
that
the
community
wants
something
affordable
and
Pearl.
Street
is
unfortunately
not
affordable,
so
this
could
be
our
opportunity
of
a
lifetime
for
markets
and
food
trucks
and
a
cultural
area
really
our
opportunity
to
do
something
that
we
really
just
can't
do
on
Pearl
Street
right
now
and
so
I'm
pretty
excited
about
it
and
that's
what
I
have
to
say.
B
I
Yeah,
as
my
first
comment
actually
on
it's
on
13th
Street
to
me,
this
comes
down
to
a
a
when
not
aware
I.
Think
13th
Street
is
a
great
place
for
us
to
activate
and
I
and
I
I
share
comments
with
my
colleagues
that
it
should
be
the
entire
length
of
the
13th
from
arapa
all
the
way
up
to
at
least
Pearl
for
all
the
reasons
that
were
stated
as
far
as
the
the
conference
center
or
the
activation
of
Central
Park.
I
All
of
those
reasons,
but
I
I
also
share
Matt's
concern
and
concern
raised
by
others
that
that
little
stub
of
13th
Street
down
there
is
too
far
away.
I
get
the
fact.
We
can
try
to
do
something
on
Saturday
night
versus
a
Sunday,
but
people
will
go
when
there's
some
place
to
go
too
and
when
the
farmer's
market
closes
up,
that's
going
to
be
that's
going
to
be
it
and
so
I'm
worried
that
we
don't
have
enough
time
and
we're
spending
an
awful
lot
of
money
trying
to
activate
a
place.
I
I
I
would
much
much
rather
have
us
do
a
good,
thoughtful,
thorough,
well-funded
job
on
13th
Street
next
year,
then
do
a
rushed,
not
well
thought
out,
because
I
think
you
all
acknowledge
is
not
very
well
thought
out
job
in
two
months,
so
I
am
not
in
favor
of
activating
13
that
little
stuff
of
13th
Street
this
year,
whether
Saturday
night
or
Sunday.
For
those
reasons
but
I
do
want
us
to
give
some
great
thought
to
13th
Street.
I
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I'd
like
to
give
us
a
lot
of
thought
to
all
of
13th
Street
and
do
a
better
job
and
a
thorough
job
and
a
thoughtful
job
in
2024.
B
D
B
O
Rachel
I
just
have
a
process:
question
I'm
not
going
to
comment
I
think
on
either,
but
could
people
just
also
give
parklet
feedback
here,
while
they're
at
the
West
Pearl?
Just
because
or
maybe
just
a
straw
poll
of
whether
people
want
to
do
that,
because
it
would
really
be
up
to
the
nine
people
I
think
to
decide
whether
to
speak
to
parklets
tonight
we.
O
Want
to
I
don't
want
to
speak
to
either
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
the
process
of
like.
Can
we
maybe
just
say
if
you
have
something
to
stay
on
Park,
let's
yeah.
B
N
Surprised,
no
one
else
wants
to
jump
in,
but
I'll
I'll
I'll
be
the
guinea
pig.
N
It's
why
we're
here?
That's
why
we're
having
this
discussion
is
West,
Pearl
I.
Remember
the
frustration
that
all
nine
of
us
had
last
fall
when
we
felt
powerless
in
being
able
to
at
least
accommodate
some
of
the
needs
of
our
community
when
they
expect
expressed
in
some
ways,
outrage
in
other
ways,
just
deep
frustration
that
what
they
found
to
be
a
great
Community
Asset
that
came
from
covid
was
leaving
and
it
was
going
to
be
reopened
to
cars.
N
This
process
subcommittee
was
created
in
a
reaction
to
that
frustration
to
see
what
we
could
do
in
order
to
find
ways
to
accommodate
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
reconcile
those
differences
between
those
concerns
that
businesses
had
and
what
is
clearly
an
overwhelming
desire
by
our
community
to
have
more
pedestrianization,
but
that
first
taste
of
that
freedom
was
West
Pearl.
That
was
the
mental
map
that
was
created
over
two
years,
where
people
grew
accustomed
to
having
that
space
for
themselves
and
for
our
community.
N
So
that
is
why
we're
here
and
I
think
when
it
pertains
to
these
recommendations.
I
I
would
say
that
I'm
a
little
disappointed
that
we
didn't
meet
the
community
where
they
wanted
us
to
be
met,
which
is
really
thinking
about
West
Pearl
and
coming
up
with
concrete
tests
for
West
Pearl
and
not
really
be
thinking
about
13th
or
East
Pearl,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
the
community
didn't
ask
us
for
that.
The
business
Community
didn't
ask
us
for
those
things.
N
Neither
did
they
ask
us
for
the
for
the
parklets,
not
to
say
that
we
don't
do
them
and
I'll
agree
with
Bob
in
the
sense
that
all
of
that
stuff
needs
to
be
on
the
table
and,
as
we
think
about
pedestrianization,
all
these
areas
need
to
be
thought
of,
and
one
area
we're
not
even
talking
about
is
the
hill.
We
got
to
talk
about
the
hill
got
to
talk
about.
Maybe
29th
got
to
talk
about
South
Boulder.
There
is
a
lot
for
us
to
discuss.
N
We
have
to
do
it
in
Parts,
but
until
we
address
the
reason
we're
here,
which
is
West,
Pearl
I
do
think
it's
premature
for
us
to
get
caught
up
in
the
others
and
so
I
think.
That's
a
part
where
I'm
a
little
disappointed
with
not
having
enough
of
a
robust
set
of
treatments
for
West
Pearl
to
really
sample
a
lot
of
the
things
that
people
are
curious
about.
N
You
know:
West
Pearl
is
the
most
intrinsically
activated
Street
in
the
city
and
yet
we're
only
choosing
to
close
it
three
times,
so
it's
already
intrinsically
activated
because
of
its
got
the
highest
density
of
outdoor
dining.
We
already
have
a
reduction
of
parking
spaces
in
that
area
because
of
those
parklets,
and
so
it
makes
me
wonder
we
can
always
it's
so.
N
It
seems
like
it's
such
a
lower
lift
because
it's
already
so
activated
people
already
have
the
lingering
mental
map
there's
already
this
pining
for
it
that
comes
from
covid
I
still
I,
just
I
wish.
We
could
be
a
little
bit
lean
a
little
further
into
what
we
could
do
to
West
Pearl
I'm,
not
saying
close
in
the
winter
I'm,
certainly
probably
not
even
arguing
that
we
do
it
during
the
weekdays.
N
Although
the
cars
aren't
the
problem
for
those
restaurants
on
the
weekdays,
it's
the
vacancy
of
our
office
space,
that's
hurting
them,
that's
a
separate
conversation,
but
nonetheless,
let's
think
about
what
we
can
do
like
every
weekend
in
the
summer,
which
we
know
they
were
crushing
during
covid
on
the
weekend.
So
to
me
it
seems
like
we
have
easy
lifts.
We
have
a
layup
or
a
slam
dunk
here
an
opportunity
to
meet
the
community
where
it
wants
to
and
make
sure
we're,
having
minimal
impact
to
businesses,
because
they're
going
to
crush
no
matter.
N
What
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
part
for
me
that
I
may
be
just
a
little
frustrated
that
we
we
pivoted
too
far
to
something
that
wasn't
really
being
asked
of
us
and
we
forgot
about
why
we
were
here
which
was
really
to
try
to
address
and
create
a
way
to
find
that
reconciliation
with
West
Pearl.
So
that's
something
that
I
would
really
like
for
us
to
consider
and
and
as
we
said,
you
know
that
activation
is
what
leads
to
street
closures.
N
It's
already
the
most
activated
place
in
the
in
the
community.
One
thing
I
will
bring
up
is
something
that
and
I
just
want
to
throw
out.
There
is
in
thinking
about
maybe
in
Western.
Particular
common
consumption
is
something
that
I
I've
heard
a
little
bit
about
from
a
few
folks
and
whether
that's
something
we
would
consider
on
West
Pearl
because
of
its
high
density
of
restaurants
and
bars.
That
may
be
one
way
to
to
make
that
street.
N
An
even
more
vibrant
place
is
to
allow
people
to
even
leave
their
establishment
and
walk
down
the
street
with
with
a
container
or
have
something
Outdoors,
so
I'm
wondering
and
I
and
I
maybe
see
Sandra
cringing
at
just
a
concept
of
liability
on
that.
No
in
all
seriousness,
but
just
curious.
That's
something
that
hasn't
been
brought
up
much
but
I'm
curious.
If
that's
a
treatment
or
thing
we
could
think
about
experimenting
with
or
what
might
happen
there.
N
So
I'll
leave
that
at
that
I'd
love
to
see
us
do
more
and
I
think
it's
a
low-hanging
fruit
for
us
to
consider
weekend
closures
and
really
test
whether
vehicles
are
the
mechanism
for
Vitality
or
whether
it's
people
that
bring
the
Vitality
to
a
space
or
not,
and
so
I
think
we
owe
it
to
our
community
to
test
those
things
and
really
know
for
sure
what
we
what
works
and
what
doesn't.
D
I
can
comment
to
the
common
consumption.
D
Yeah
I
I
actually
have
a
little
familiarity
with
that.
You
all
know
that
I
came
most
recently
from
Greeley
and
Greely
was
the
first
municipality
to
take
advantage
of
that
state
law
coming
consumption.
Just
for
everybody's
benefit
is
state
law,
that's
relatively
new
five,
five
years
or
so
maybe
a
little
bit
longer.
That
allows
for
specific
geographies
to
be
defined,
and
if
all
of
the
businesses
that
are
in
that
geography
agree,
alcohol
can
be
brought
out
into
a
common
area,
Street
typically
our
Plaza
under
certain
controls.
D
Knowing
a
bit
about
that
program,
you
do
have
to
stand
it
up.
It
would
probably
take
three
to
six
months
and
and
also
the
agreement
as
I
understand
it,
of
all
the
businesses
that
would
be
within
that
defined
area.
D
J
And
can
I
just
add
something
that
we
did
in
our
initial
research
this
winter
when
we
started
this
work,
look
into
what
were
the
possibilities
related
to
liquor
permissions,
and
it
seems
like
with
this
near-term
implementation
that
it
really
more
is
the
special
event
permitting
that
they
outdoor
that
the
common
consumption
is
more
of
something
to
test
for
the
longer
term,
because
it
is
going
to
take
some
time
to
go
through
that
process
and
you'd
have
to
get
that
District
established
and
make
sure
that
the
folks
are
wanting
to
do
that.
E
We
all
we
did
some
case
study
research
and
found
that
successful
street
closures
always
accompany
the
proactive
participation
of
the
business
owners
on
those
streets
alongside
High
Community
participation.
So
we
couldn't
find
anywhere
that
wasn't
the
case
and
we
do
have
chip
again
available
if
he
wants
to
provide
the
perspective
of
the
West
Pearl
business
owners
just
to
add
to
Matt
what
you
were
saying.
Q
Thank
you,
Amanda
I
can
attempt.
We
have
probably
50
businesses
and
200
opinions
amongst
them,
but
but
I
will
we'll
try
to
do
my
best
to
represent
the
businesses.
I.
Think
fundamentally,
as
you
mentioned,
I
I
think
any
kind
of
activation
or
street
closure
that
would
be
supported
by
the
business
is
really
the
businesses
would
want
to
be
involved
in
what
that
looks
like
I
think.
Q
The
common
consumption
idea
is
is
an
interesting
idea
to
explore
with
the
businesses,
but
I
think
it
seems
to
me
that
the
business
Community,
particularly
on
the
West
End,
is,
has
been
in
the
position
of
feeling,
like
things
are
being
done
to
them,
rather
than
being
part
of
the
conversation
of
what
we
can
do
to
support
the
West
End
to
support
the
community
with
the
businesses.
Q
L
I
think,
in
the
light
of
what
Matt
just
brought
up
and
the
sort
of
discussion,
I
would
really
like
to
see
us
have
that
discussion
with
businesses
on
the
West
End.
Is
there
a
duration
of
closure?
You
know,
like
could
a
once
a
week
closure
be
something
that
a
majority
of
businesses
would
support.
Is
there
any
version
of
that
that
would
find
traction
with
the
business
community
in
that
area?
L
I
I
do
think
that
yeah
I
would
like
to
us
to
look
at
a
regular
kind
of
expansion
of
the
of
the
blocks
as
part
of
what
we're
looking
at
and
experimenting
with
through
this
program,
but
I
agree
that
getting
business
buy-in
is
an
important
part
of
that.
R
Yeah
I
agree
with
with
what
Lauren
just
said
and
some
of
the
points
that
Matt
was
getting
at
that
that
I
appreciate
the
analysis
that
was
done
about
say
that
an
unactivated
street
is
not
going
to
be
successful
if
it's
close
to
cars
and
I
think
that
was,
you
know
a
lot
of
why
we
said.
Okay,
we
get
we
get
winter.
R
The
streets
are
not
terribly
well
activated
in
Winter,
and
you
also
mentioned
the
analysis
that
a
24
7
closure
isn't
really
merited
based
on
that
analysis,
and
that
makes
sense
to
me
as
well.
You
know
is
a
Tuesday
morning
at
9.
00
a.m
going
to
be
a
really
active
space
along
West
Pearl.
R
You
know
most
of
the
time
it's
not
going
to
be,
but
I
think
the
to
some
points
they've
been
made
before
on
a
June
Friday
evening.
There
is
a
huge
amount
of
activity
along
West
Pearl.
That
I
think
provides,
along
with
the
businesses
themselves,
provides
all
the
activation
necessary
for
just
a
wonderful
activated,
car,
free
environment
and
I.
R
So
it
is,
is
that
you
know
Friday
evenings?
Is
it
Saturday
evenings?
Is
it
you
know?
What
does
that?
Look
like
I
I've
heard
about
difficulties
with
deliveries,
but
deliveries
aren't
coming
in
at
5
p.m.
Most
of
the
time
so
I
I
would
really
like
to
explore
our
opportunities
here
for
regular,
targeted
closures
that
I
I'm
hopeful
could
provide
additional
Revenue
to
businesses,
not
impact
them
negatively
and
I.
R
Think
part
of
this
we'll
be
talking
to
them
about
what
what
works
and
what
doesn't
work
and
I
think
part
of
it
is
really
about
data
collection
to
Lawrence
earlier
question.
You
know
we
we
did
not
get
any
tax
information
on
how
things
have
been
going
since
the
street
opened
back
up
to
cars
and
I.
Think
that's
really
relevant,
I
think
collecting
finely
grain
tax
information
going
forward
will
also
be
really
relevant
in
terms
of
the
piloting
and
such
and
that
it
was
an
interesting
idea.
R
Matt
brought
up
the
old
word,
you're
thinking
about
about
the
common
consumption,
totally
get
that's
not
a
this
spring
summer
kind
of
an
idea,
but
that's
I
think
that's
another
thing
to
go
back
out
to
the
businesses
to
say
you
know
what
about
what?
If
you
know,
Friday
evenings
were
car
free
in
common
consumption.
You
know
that
that
might
be
something
that
would
be
a
really
desirable
experience
for
our
community
and
for
the
businesses
themselves.
R
So
I'd
like
to
see
another
iteration
of
this,
that
that
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
potentially
provide
some
of
those
High
usage
times
that
are
car,
free
and
then
I'll
just
say
on
the
the
parklets
I
mean
I
like
the
idea
I,
like
tactical
urbanism
kind
of
thoughts
like
that,
but
I'm
concerned
about
how
expensive
they
might
be
and
there's
again
I
feel
like
I'm
Flying
Blind
a
little
bit
here.
So
but
it's
it's
not
the
first
place.
I'd
spend
a
lot
of
money.
R
So
if
you
could
tell
me
you
could
stand
up
a
really
cool
parklet,
you
know,
and
for
the
for
the
summer,
for
you
know
three
thousand
dollars
I'd
be
like
oh
okay,
that
sounds
pretty
cool,
but
if
it's
going
to
be
a
you
know,
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
kind
of
effort,
I'm
not
going
to
be
so
interested
and
and
also
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
time
to
devote
to
these
things
as
well,
so
I
think
the
time
and
the
money
would
have
to
be
very,
very
doable.
I.
B
To
colloquy,
because
I
can
I'm
going
to
say
that
we
have
a
giant
Parkland
called
Pearl,
Street
Mall,
so
that's
first
of
all,
so
I
agree
with
you
whether
or
not
we
should
spend
I,
don't
think
we
should
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
products
personally,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
it
seems
to
me
like.
B
Maybe
we
should
ask
the
businesses
to
compromise
and
I'm
going
to
throw
out
Thursday
night
and
maybe
do
some
sort
of
marketing
like
Thursday
night
on
West
Pearl,
because
Thursday
night
was
always
the
most
exciting
night
for
me
back
in
the
day
on
West
Pearl
and
if
it
was
I
loved
going
to
West
Pearl
on
Thursday
nights
during
the
pandemic.
Just
raise
my
spirits.
So
maybe
we
can
do
one
night
a
week
or
one
night
during
July
or
one
night
in
July
and
August.
B
Oh,
is
Chip
gonna
be
mad
at
me
or
Sunday's
on
Pearl
or
something
I
know
chip.
You
don't
like
Saturdays
I
know
that,
but
maybe
we
can
do
some
sort
of
a
compromise.
Okay
can.
O
I
think
I'm
technically
next,
so
good
and
I'll
be
very
brief.
Obviously
we're
trying
to
get
it
at
promoting
a
vibrant,
downtown
and
I
think
that's
a
crucial
thing
for
us
to
be
working
on.
I
agree
with
Bob
that
when
is
a
really
important
question
to
be
asking
about
all
of
these
things,
and
you
know
again
to
now
back
to
my
earlier
point
it.
It
feels
like
we're
at
a
bit
of
a
Breaking
Point
with
encampments,
and
so
I
would
focus
on
that.
O
First
and
then
you
know
on
all
three
I
would
I
would
largely
implement
the
recommendations
of
Staff,
as
mostly
supported
by
chip
and
downtown
and
I,
think
the
chamber
you
know
so
that
incorporates
at
least
a
large
swath
of
of
people
with
vested
interests,
but
I
think
that
the
the
staff
recommendations
they.
They
went
for
expert
advice
and
opinion,
and
it's
data
backed.
O
So
this
is
not
our
our
long-term
solution
for
improving
cycling
infrastructure,
I
think
we're
just
highlighting
it.
This
phase
and
I
think
that
staff
has
done
and
and
Consultants
have
done,
a
good
job
of
of
seeing
us
up
for
getting
successful
data
and
information
that
we
can
work
from.
But
back
to
to
my
first
point
and
and
Bob's
sort
of
separate
point
about
timing,
I
would
do
it
next
year,
honestly,
like
I
would
focus.
You
know,
to
the
extent
that
we
have
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
million
dollars.
O
That
we
can
do
something
downtown
with
I
would
focus
on
really
Shoring
up
the
the
space
to
be
a
place
that
is
ripe
for
Activation
and
Community
celebration
and
simultaneously
gives
people
who
need
a
place
to
be
a
place
to
be
thanks.
Tara
Nicole.
H
Thank
you,
I'm,
going
to
just
start
with
a
couple
comments
about
the
parklets
and
pop-ups,
going
back
just
some
of
the
connectors
feedback.
They
kind
of
seem
to
be
at
an
earlier
stage
of
using
downtown
as
a
public
space
like
wanting
their
kids
to
have
safe
bike
routes
to
downtown
from
their
neighborhoods.
So
you
know
as
we're
thinking
about
these
kind
of
things
again.
I
just
want
to
be
really
intentional
about
how
we're
designing
things
for
people
who
haven't
engaged
yet
and
who
don't
spend
time
downtown
on
a
regular
basis.
H
It's
really
a
different
level
of
Engagement
from
what
other
stakeholders
were
talking
about.
One
of
the
things
that
I
would
just
like
to
plant
a
seed
for
now
with
these
parklets
and
pop-ups
is
if
we
could
think
about
rolling
out
a
city-wide,
pop-up
or
Park
the
program
so
not
necessarily
restricting
to
downtown,
but
for
the
people
who
don't
come
downtown.
So
can
we
bring
the
downtown
feel
to
other
neighborhoods
through
pop-ups
and
parklets,
like
the
neighborhood
block
party,
trailer
that
we've
started
again,
but
in
a
longer
term
installation
kind
of
way?
H
And
you
know
for
committed
to
doing
these
temporary
pop-ups
and
parklets.
Can
we
ask
the
connectors
what
they
think
about
eventually
putting
them
in
neighborhoods
whose
residents
don't
often
come
downtown
so
just
a
way
to
try
to
create
a
bit
of
a
bridge
there
in
the
community
with
regard
to
parklets
West
Pearl?
H
Anything
that
we're
really
proposing
with
this
project
kind
of
like
Rachel
I,
would
like
to
have
some
firm
cost
estimates
for
the
things
that
we're
proposing
and
then
what
I
would
love
to
see
us
do
is
include
those
proposals
in
our
budget
discussions
this
year,
so
that
we
can
prioritize
what
we're
spending
money
on
and
look
at
trade-offs.
It
is
always
so
hard
for
me.
H
We
really
need
to
be
careful
because
we
know
from
the
West
Pearl
temporary
closure
that
once
people
get
used
to
things,
they're
going
to
expect
them
to
continue
and
again
whatever
we
decide
on
how
we
move
forward
to
me
is
more
important
than
where
we
move
things
forward.
I'd
really
love
to
see
us
offer
event
opportunity
to
the
groups
in
our
community
whose
views
haven't
been
reflected
here
and
that
represent
the
people
who
say
they
don't
feel
comfortable
downtown.
U
Thank
you,
Tara
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
to
the
conversation.
I
like
the
idea
of
the
parklets,
the
pop-ups
I,
just
think
I
mean
I,
do
feel.
Pearl
speed
is
pretty
vibrant
for
town.
It's
very
nice
I
enjoy
it,
I
enjoy
being
there.
U
I
wanted
to
go
back
to
something
that
chip
mentioned
and
I.
Remember.
When
we
were
having
the
Pearl
Street
conversation,
we
did
have
some
businesses
that
came
up
before
Council
and
felt
marginalized,
so
I
think.
As
part
of
that
conversation,
we
have
to
ensure
that
those
businesses
are
at
the
table
and
for
whatever
reason
that
they
felt
marginalized,
that
we
bring
them
along
as
part
of
this
process,
that's
going
to
be
important
as
part
of
this
conversation.
U
U
P
And
my
only
comments
on
this
are
going
to
be
derivative.
I
agree
with
Nicole
that
we
need
to
make
the
expenditures
for
this
project
part
of
our
budgeting
process.
We
just
can't
throw
our
hands
up
and
say
you
know
we're
going
to
spend
the
money.
We
need
to
know
what
we're
spending
the
money
on,
what
we're
not
spending
the
money
on,
and
we
have
a
process
for
that.
I
also
agree
with
some
of
the
comments
made
by
Lauren,
which
is
that
you
know
I'm
indifferent
to
how
many
times
we
close
West
Pearl.
P
You
know:
I,
don't
I
know
that
everybody
who
has
been
polled
has
been
in
favor
of
closing
West
Pearl
permanently,
but
almost
none
of
those
responses
to
the
polls
spoke
to
the
condition
of
the
businesses
and
I
I.
Think
you
have
to
focus
on
that
a
little
bit
so,
to
the
extent
that
you
can,
you
can
consult
with
the
businesses,
get
some
buy-in
if
they're
prepared
to
close
twice
a
week,
I'm
fine
with
it.
But
this
is
people's
livelihoods
and
you
need
to
tread
a
little
carefully
when
you
are
impacting
people's
livelihoods.
P
D
Well,
I
think
we've
been
giving
you
good
feedback
and
direction.
I
really
really
appreciate
all
that.
I
would
summarize
that
Council
acknowledges
that
from
our
fall
kickoff
and
everything
we
committed
to
considering
West,
Pearl
and
and
the
other
spaces,
and
so
you're
acknowledging
the
work
that
we've
done.
There
I
saw
some
head
snotting
when
I
said
that
this
really
was
an
exercise
in
flying
the
plane
while
trying
to
build
it.
D
So
we
appreciate
your
acknowledgment
throughout
the
discussion
that
we're
trying
to
look
into
activation
and
engagement
opportunities,
while
still.
D
Up
something
possible
I
believe
I've
heard
a
large.
A
D
If
not
a
consensus
about
13th
Street,
maybe
extending
hours
on
Saturday
with
adequate
activation,
but
making
sure
we
capitalize
on
some
of
the
expenses
and
such
that
that
we
already
know
exist
as
part
of
the
closure
of
13th
already
and
then
on
West
Pearl
to
explore
some
sort
of
regular
rhythm
for
temporary
closure,
but
making
sure
that
we
do
engage
with
the
businesses
to
the
degree
that
that
is
possible.
D
I
heard
that
it's
important
to
get
maybe
sales
tax
data
also
important
that
we
look
to
the
Future
as
this
pilot
extends
into
year
through
two
and
three
for
maybe
budget
ramifications
and
a
budget
packet
as
we
go
into
next
year
and
then,
finally,
that
we
do
lean
into
engagement
that
we
continue
to
use
the
racial
Equity
instrument.
That
has
already
been
the
basis
of
where
we've
started.
D
But
that
inclusion
is
a
priority
and
and
really
recognizing
some
of
the
comments
that
that
all
the
council
rate
council
members
made
about
elevating
the
inclusion
piece
as
we
go
forward.
So
I
guess
I
would
just
ask
if
that
captures
it
adequately
and
if
not,
we
will
go
forth
and
Implement
to
the
best
of
our
abilities.
B
R
B
N
Maybe
maybe
the
sound
of
me
opening
this
soda
made
me
miss
it,
but
did
did
we
was
there
enough
heard
with
regards
to
building
up
towards
the
conversations
about
common
consumption,
because
that's
going
to
require
a
fair
amount
of
Outreach
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
one
there's
capacity
for
staff
to
do
that?
N
Does
it
need
a
not
a
five,
and
can
we
build
that
Runway
fully
acknowledging
it's
not
happening
this
year,
but
when
you
think
three
to
six
months
that
plus
process
and
decision
making
that
that
we
could
start
that,
then
and
then
and
then
be
ready
for
something
at
some
point
next
year.
If,
if
there's
a
green
light
to
be
had
so
I
just
wanted
to
double
check
on
what
action
plan
there
is
with
that.
D
Yeah,
thank
you.
Matt
I
think
investigation
into
it
and
and
clear
communication
about
what
that
would
take,
leading
to
the
possibility.
I
Bob
yeah
Brad
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
I
fully
agree
with
your
summation,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
my
Council
colleagues
to
weigh
in
I
heard,
with
respect
to
13th
Street
I
heard
a
lot
of
concern.
So
I
certainly
did
and
I
heard
concern
from
some
of
my
colleagues
about
whether
we
should
try
to
do
something
on
13th
Street
this
year
versus
next
I
know
there
was
some
discussion
about
Saturday
night
versus
Sunday
night
I.
Think
people
are
someone
ambivalent
about
that.
I
But
I
heard
several
people
say
that
they
were
concerned
about
doing
this
in
23
either
because
of
money
or
because
of
timing
or
both,
and
so,
if
you
think
you
heard
a
majority
of
us
say,
go
forward
with
13th
Street
in
2023
Tara.
You
might
do
a
straw
poll
because
you
might
get
a
different
answer.
B
Well,
is
it
possible
to
just
see
if
they
can
find
any
partners
and
do
a
limited
basis
on
an
extending
on
a
Saturday,
or
do
you
not
do
people
not
even
want
to
go
there
I
mean
as
far
as
I
can
tell
they
were
going
to
try
to
see
if
they
were
Partners.
It
certainly
doesn't
have
to
be
Saturday
night,
because
I
understand
what
you
were
saying
it
was
gonna.
Will
people
go
from
Pearl
Street
to
13th,
probably
not,
but
will
they
stay
at
the
farmers
market
and
hang
out
for
a
few
more
hours?
D
That
was
my
interpretation,
certainly
I'm,
sorry,
if
I'm
jumping
in
prematurely,
but
where
it's
possible
to
just
extend
beyond
the
farmer's
market,
recognizing
that
that
gives
us
one
more
data
point
right
in
in
the
downtown
to
be
able
to
do
work,
but
also
not
falling
into
some
of
the
concerns
that
Bob
you
expressed
in
others,
which
I
I
agree
were
said
as
well.
But.
R
B
Okay,
let's
take
a
straw
poll,
everybody
that
wants
to
do
what
Brad
said,
which
is
try
to
engage
some
partners
and
see
if
it
works
out
for
Saturday
after
the
Farmers
Market
raise
your
hand.
B
A
A
A
A
A
A
V
Tonight
we're
going
to
talk
about
Zoning
for
affordable
housing.
Last
time
we
talked
about
this
particular
topic
was
a
study
session
in
November
of
last
year,
where
we
talked
about
the
scope
and
timeline
for
this
project,
so
I'm
going
to
go
into
a
lot
more
detail
tonight
and
we're
looking
to
get
your
feedback.
So
let
me
get
the
presentation
pulled
up.
W
J
V
You
go
Okay
so
tonight.
The
purpose
of
the
discussion
is
to
get
feedback
on
the
Zoning
for
affordable
housing
project,
just
to
lay
out
the
discussion
I'm
going
to
go
into
a
bit
of
the
background
of
the
project
and
then
moving
into
how
the
city
of
Boulder
regulates
or
calculates
residential
density,
as
that's
a
big
consideration
and
that
informs
the
potential
options
that
we
can
do
as
part
of
this
particular
project.
V
Then
I'll
go
into
the
actual
potential
options,
there's
a
number
of
different
types
of
options
that
we're
looking
at
related
to
density,
housing,
types
and
parking
calculations,
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
community
engagement
that
we've
heard
thus
far
some
feedback
that
we've
received
from
the
housing,
Advisory
Board
and
then
I'll
conclude
with
next
steps
right
before
we
go
into
the
deliberation.
V
So
the
questions
for
city
council
tonight
is:
does
city
council
have
any
comments
or
questions
related
to
how
residential
density
is
calculated
in
Boulder?
It's
a
complex
topic,
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
it.
The
best
I
can
to
make
everyone
well
informed,
but
I'm
sure
there's
going
to
be
questions
and
I'm
happy
to
to
answer
those
and
then
after
we
get
after
that,
section.
I'm
posing
the
question
of
which
potential
options
should
be
the
focus
of
any
future,
further
analysis,
Outreach
and
ultimately
ordinance
development.
V
So
we
want
to
figure
out
how
to
narrow
down
these
options
and
go
out
to
the
public
and
get
feedback
so
moving
into
background.
This
is
the
problem
statement
that
we
have
within
the
project
Charter
and
attachment
a
it's
actually
a
similar
problem
segment
that
we
had
for
occupancy
just
related
to
the
the
housing
crisis
that
we're
experiencing
here
in
Boulder
in
the
Front
Range
and
all
across
the
country,
really
just
the
need
to
increase
housing
stock,
to
address
the
supply
and
demand
issues
and
just
overall
the
cost
of
housing
in
Boulder.
V
So
what
we
heard
from
Council
back
at
the
2022
retreat
was
at
this
Project's
primary
goal
or
objective
was
to
evaluate
the
land
use
Co
code
with
the
intent
of
removing
zoning
barriers
to
more
affordable
units
and
smaller
modest
size
units.
So
that
informed
the
goals
that
we
prepared
for
the
project
that
are
up
on
the
screen.
V
So
one
thing
we
want
to
make
clear
tonight
is:
what
do
we
mean
by
affordable
housing?
We
mean
a
number
of
different
types
of
housing
when
we
talk
about
that.
Firstly,
there's
permanently
affordable
housing,
which
is
our
typical
deed,
restricted
housing,
that's
affordable
in
perpetuity
that
is
administered
through
our
inclusionary
housing
program.
Sometimes
we
get
on-site
affordable.
Sometimes
we
get
cash
and
Lou
fees
or
work
with
other
agencies
to
provide
the
housing.
These
are
the
again
the
deed,
restricted
housing
units
that
we
see
in
in
the
community
there's
also
affordable,
attainable
housing.
V
So
these
are
like
the
households
that
pay
no
more
than
28
to
30
percent
of
their
income
on
housing,
and
another
thing
that
we
want
to
make
clear
tonight
is
that
we're
trying
to
increases
the
inventory
of
housing
so
we're
even
including
market
rate
monetized
housing,
that's
more
appropriately
or
comparatively
more
affordable
and
because
of
their
smaller
size
and
the
the
pricing.
According
to
that,
so
we're
going
to
talk
more
about
that
tonight.
V
V
So
this
is
really
meant
to
increase
the
number
of
modest
sized
and
modestly
priced
market
rate
housing
in
the
city,
and
the
point
we
want
to
make
is
that
by
allowing
more
housing
in
certain
areas,
it'll
increase
the
amount
of
deed,
restricted
housing
that
we
would
get
because
through
the
inclusionary
housing
program,
25
of
any
number
of
housing
units
in
a
project
have
to
be
either
on-site
or
cash
in
lieu
equivalent
paid
for
those
number
of
units.
V
So
allowing
more
housing
and
removing
some
of
those
density
barriers
will
will
increase
the
inventory
of
of
deep
restricted
housing.
So
the
other
point
we
wanted
to
make
is
that,
even
with
cash
and
Lou,
it
allows
the
city
and
and
other
agencies
like
Boulder
housing,
Partners
to
leverage
that
money
and
actually
get
look,
seek
out
federal
and
state
funding
for
housing
to
actually
increase
that
pot
of
money
that
goes
into
the
affordable
housing
fund
and
actually
result
in
even
more
housing
units.
V
Then
you
could
even
achieve
on
site
so
we're
just
trying
to
remove
some
zoning
barriers
to
make
this
more
and
more
possible
so
before
moving
forward.
It's
it's
worthy
of
of
mentioning
kind
of
things
that
are
happening
at
the
state
level.
V
Proposition
123
was
passed
by
voters
back
in
November
and
it
basically
created
a
state
level.
Affordable
housing
fund
that
basically
is
anticipated
to
be
about
290
million
dollars
a
year
that
the
state
can
use
for
a
number
of
different
programs
to
help
with
local
communities
and
agencies
to
get
more
affordable
housing
to
address
homelessness.
So
this
is
something
that
the
city
of
Boulder,
the
city,
manager's
office
and
housing
and
Human
Services
are
of
evaluating
closely
to
see
how
to
best
implement
it.
V
It's
very
opportune
that
we're
talking
about
this,
because
the
state
is
going
to
be
releasing
a
draft
that
is
a
land
use
policy
related
to
housing
that
might
actually
end
up
getting
adopted,
potentially
by
by
May
at
the
end
of
the
legislative
session,
and
that
could
have
a
great
effect
on
a
lot
of
the
local
communities
in
in
the
state
of
Colorado,
so
I'm
going
to
shift
to
the
local
policy
framework
just
to
build
the
understanding
of
of
how
we
did
the
analysis
for
this
project
and
how
that's
informed
the
potential
options.
V
So
you
all
are
familiar
with
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan.
It's
a
document
that
is
adopted
by
ordinance.
So
it
has
a
lot
more
teeth
than
a
lot
of
comprehensive
plans
may
be
in
other
communities.
It's
a
very
important
document
in
guiding
all
of
our
actions
at
the
city
of
Boulder.
So
you
can
see
there's
a
number
of
different
ways
that
the
comprehensive
plan
has
implemented
the
plan
actually
implements.
V
So,
looking
at
the
the
bbcp
one
of
the
major
focused
areas
that
guide
our
actions
is
relative
to
housing,
affordability
and
diversity.
If
you
open
up
the
first
few
pages
of
the
the
last
or
the
most
updated
version
of
the
plan,
it
states
that
housing,
affordability
and
diversity
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
the
plan
is
trying
to
address.
So
I'm
not
going
to
read
this
whole
thing.
But
obviously,
if
you
read
through
the
plan,
you
can
see
that
housing
is
a
major
part
of
the
of
the
plan.
V
There's
a
number
of
different
policies
in
the
plan
that
relate
to
getting
more
housing
in
the
city,
trying
to
get
more
diversity
of
housing
types,
more,
affordable,
housing
for
a
full
range
of
households,
increasing
Supply,
you
know,
and
and
also
addressing
the
jobs,
housing
imbalance.
So
there's
a
number
of
different
policies
that
we
look
to
all
right.
So
now,
I'm
going
to
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
residential
density.
V
I
expect
there
may
be
questions.
I
have
no
problem.
If
anyone
wants
to
interrupt
with
any
questions
for
any
clarifications,
so
starting
again
at
the
high
level
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
bvcp
land
use
designations,
This,
Is,
Our,
Land
Use
map
that
basically
sets
the
vision
for
what
the
land
uses
are
throughout
the
city
and
we
we
are
always
trying
to
make
sure
that
our
our
zoning
ordinance
or
our
land
use
code
is
consistent
with
the
bvcp.
V
V
The
point
we're
trying
to
make
tonight
is
that
this
is
is
a
very
large
challenge,
because
it
would
require
us
to
re-look
at
the
bvcp
at
the
policy
level
first
and
do
extensive
Community
engagement
if
we
are
to
make
any
extensive
changes
to
those
single-family
neighborhoods
to
introduce
different
types
of
housing
or
potentially
increase
density,
and
then,
following
that,
there
would
have
to
be
extensive
rezonings
to
comply
with
the
comprehensive
plan.
V
So
you
can
see
that
a
very
large
percentage
of
the
city
is
shown
in
yellow,
which
is
our
single-family
neighborhoods.
So,
yes,
it's
an
opportunity
for
trying
to
get
more
more
housing,
but
they
are
areas
that
are
that
are
restricted
in
the
bvcp
which
I'll
talk
about
right
now,
so
you
can
see
the
areas
that
are
in
kind
of
the
the
light
yellow
color
are
considered
very
low
density
residential,
so
it
describes
the
characteristics
and
locations
like
basically
the
vision
for
those
areas.
V
These
very
low
density
areas
are
capped
out
at
two
dwelling
units
per
acre
or
less,
and
then
the
yellow
areas
which
are
are
more
pervasive,
obviously,
is
the
low
density.
Residential
areas
are
at
two
to
six
dwelling
units
per
acre,
and
then
you
get
into
medium
density
areas
which
are
shown
in
Orange
and
that's
6
to
14
dwelling
units
per
acre.
V
We
start
to
get
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
as
the
density
increases
in
the
plan,
so
mixed
density
areas
are
six
to
twenty
dwelling
units
per
acre.
The
most
flexibility
is
really
high
density,
residential
areas,
which
just
say
more
than
14
dwelling
units
per
acre.
So
there
really
isn't
like
a
cap
for
those
areas.
So
that's
where
it
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
opportunity
as
part
of
this
project,
where
we
have,
you
know,
limited
timeline
to
make
changes
to
get
more
housing.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
more
about
that.
V
If
you've
had
a
chance
to
look
at
table
one
in
the
memo,
it
details
all
the
different
residential
zones
in
the
city
and
how
residential
density
is
calculated.
So
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan,
you'll
notice
that
very
low
density
areas
of
the
city,
the
RR
zones
are
less
than
two
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
the
way
that
that's
achieved.
V
If
you
look
at
the
slide
is
that
in
the
rural,
residential
or
RR
zones,
there's
a
minimum
lot
size
of
30
000
square
feet
per
unit
and
then,
when
you
get
into
low
density
residential
zones,
there's
re
our
mixed
residential
and
low
density.
So
in
the
re
Zone
it's
a
minimum
lot
size
of
15
000
square
feet
and
then
in
the
rl1
zone,
which
is
very
prevalent
in
the
city.
It's
a
minimum
lot
size
of
seven
thousand
minimum
lot
size
per
unit.
V
Rl2
is
also
in
that
same
density
range
of
two
to
six
dollar
units
per
acre,
but
it's
achieved
differently.
It
was
devised
in
the
1970s
to
try
to
get
more
open
space,
so
it
requires
six
thousand
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit,
so
it's
really
dependent
on
design
and
there
are
a
number
of
zones
that
use
open
space
per
dwelling
unit
to
determine
the
density.
So
you
can
see
that
there.
V
These
are
pretty
sacrosanct
changes
that
if
we
were
to
make
change
any
of
these
minimum
lot
sizes
per
unit,
we
would
have
to
start
with
the
comp
plan.
First.
V
L
Oh
I'm,
sorry
I,
guess
I
just
wanted
to
interject,
because
I
I
have
I
I
sort
of
disagree
with
that
statement
that
any
change
to
that
would
require
a
change
to
the
comp
plan,
because
the
comp
plan
in
our
spreadsheet
doesn't
say
that
it
is
determined
on
a
per
lot
basis.
V
One
thing
I
want
to
make
clear
is
that
what
I
didn't
say?
Is
that
a
lot
of
these
zones
that
when
they
were
subdivided,
they
maxed
out
the
density
when
they
subdivided?
So
that's
why
we
bump
up
against
those
limitations.
There
are
some
areas
where
there's
a
little
bit
more
flexibility
and
you
could
add
units
because
they
have
larger
lot
sizes,
but
because
so
much
of
these
low
density
areas
were
maxed
out.
V
V
V
So
this
is
really
where
the
the
bvcp
already
designates
areas
for
additional
housing
and
mixed-use
neighborhoods,
so
that
includes
the
Boulder
Valley
Regional
Center,
some
of
our
neighborhood
centers
throughout
the
city
that
you
can
see
in
the
numbers
on
the
map
and
then
also
our
industrial
areas,
because
we
we
just
made
some
changes
through
the
use
standards
table
that
actually
made
the
ability
to
do
more
residential
in
industrial
areas,
more
eligibility
for
that
area.
But
it
still
bumps
up
against
some
density
caps
in
those
areas
in
the
zoning.
V
V
V
Density
versus
intensity,
they're
kind
of
used
interchangeably
in
Boulder,
but
I
wanted
to
be
clear
about
density
is
basically
a
calculation
of
dwelling
units
per
acre.
So
it's
really
looking
at
the
number
of
housing
units
that
are
permitted
by
the
zoning
and
also
by
the
the
comp
plan
and
it
kind
of
regulates.
The
level
of
activity
that
you
can
see
on.
The
property
intensity
is
more
like
how
much
visual
massing
are
you
seeing
on
the
property
and
that's
governed
by
in
a
number
of
different
ways.
V
How
much
parking
is
required,
height
limits
and
setbacks,
and
you
can
see
that
far
can
look
different
depending
on
how
much
of
the
lot
area
has
to
be
taken
up
either
by
landscaping
or
parking
or
open
space.
So
a
2.0
far
at
the
bottom,
you
can
see
could
either
be
two
floors
just
covering
the
the
property
or
it
could
potentially
be
an
eight-story
building.
V
Obviously,
in
Boulder
we
have
a
55
foot
height
limit,
so
it's
more
likely
that
you're
going
to
see
a
four-story
building
like
in
the
middle
there,
based
on
the
far
and
the
open
space
requirements
and
parking,
but
either
way
I
mean
there's
a
number
of
different
ways
to
visualize
far.
We
did
include
attachment
B,
which
shows
a
number
of
different
projects
at
different
fars.
V
V
It's
a
5.45
Acre
Site,
it's
in
the
bc1
zone,
which
is
community
business.
It's
one
of
the
neighborhood
centers
in
the
city
in
that
zone.
In
the
top
row,
you
can
see
that
the
density
limitation
there
is
1200
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit.
So
basically,
this
is
a
little
bit
difficult
when
it's
done
by
open
space,
because
it's
a
matter
of
design,
but
typically
that's
going
to
get
you
somewhere
around
22
dwelling
units
per
acre
so
applying
that
to
a
5.4
Acre
Site.
V
You
could
get
somewhere
around
like
120
units
out
of
that
which,
in
a
sense,
is,
is
on
more
on
the
Suburban
side
in
design,
so
that
the
next
column
we're
showing
that
out
of
120
units
25
of
the
units
would
be
deed,
restricted
either
on-site
units
or
the
equivalents
in
in
loose
it'll
be
30
units
that
would
be
subject
to
our
inclusionary
housing
in
that
particular
Zone.
There's
no
far
limit,
so
it
uses
that
open
space
to
to
kind
of
limit
the
intensity.
V
V
If
you,
you
know,
meet
the
community
benefit
requirements,
but
we've
heard
on
over
and
over
again
from
the
development
community
that
the
density
limitation
in
that
zone,
which
is
pretty
common
in
a
number
of
different
zones,
the
1600
square
feet
of
lot
area
per
dwelling
unit
or
the
27
dwellings
per
acre
cap
is
when
you
combine
that
with
the
far
limit
when
the
far
gets
maxed
out
it
all.
It
basically
encourages
large
floor
plate
units.
V
So
it's
basically
we're
not
getting
what
we
we
want
to
get
in
the
city,
so
applying
that
again
as
an
example
to
the
5.45
Acre
Site,
we
would
get
around
100
148
units
a
quarter
of
that
would
be
37
deed,
restricted
units
or
cash
and
Loom.
So,
basically,
if
you
max
out
that
far
on
that
site-
and
you
divide
it
by
148
units-
you
get
over
three-
you
get-
you
get
an
average
of
over
3
000
square
feet
per
unit.
V
V
So
this
came
up
with
the
diagonal
plasma
project.
So
that's
the
third
line,
so
we
wanted
to
show
the
difference
between
the
third
line
and
the
row.
Above
so
with
the
special
ordinance
I
got
adopted
for
diagonal
Plaza,
a
15
open
space
requirement
was
applied.
They
were
able
to
then
do
52
dwelling
Yokes
per
acre
and
increase
the
density
to
282
units,
which
then
yielded
70
units
that
would
be
deed,
restricted
or
cash
in
lieu,
and
then
they
did
a
basically
a
1.77
far.
V
But
if
you
apply
that
same
logic
like
a
far
cap
and
you
divide
by
the
number
of
units
in
this
example,
the
average
unit
size
drops
by
by
half
you
get
to
like
around
a
thousand
or
twelve
hundred.
So
you
can
see
how
getting
rid
of
that
density
limitation,
whether
it
be
the
1200
square
feet
of
open
space
per
unit
or
the
1600
square
feet
of
lot
area
per
unit.
You're
going
to
get
some
more
smaller
units
and
you're
going
to
get
more
deep,
restricted
units
to
add
to
the
city's
inventory
for
deed,
restricted
housing.
V
V
So
there's
three
themes
that
relate
right
back
to
the
objective
that
city
council
set
out
for
us
on
this
project
is
looking
at
density,
adjustments
to
get
more
housing
and
more
deed,
restricted
housing.
So
we're
looking
at
a
number
of
different
zones
that
have
those
those
restrictions
that
we're
proposing
could
be
removed.
V
We've
also
heard
from
some
council
members,
you
know
about
increasing
the
the
number
of
or
allowing
duplexes
or
other
attached
housing
types
in
traditionally
single
family
neighborhoods.
That
is
an
option.
I'll
talk
about
it
in
more
depth,
but
again
we
run
up
against
those
those
density
limitations
and
then
parking
modifications
which
was
another
part
of
the
the
objective.
So
looking
at
revising
calculations
in
the
code
and
we've
found
some
areas
that
could
be
loosened
up
to
encourage
more
affordable
housing,
so
this
corresponds
directly
with
what
is
in
the
memo.
V
We've
we've
put
the
density
adjustments
under
option
A,
so
there's
a
one
and
two
again.
This
goes
right
back
to
those
two
density
limits:
the
1600
square
feet
of
lot
area
per
dwelling
unit
and
the
1200
square
feet
of
open
space
in
the
bc1
zone,
we're
putting
out
the
option
that
in
the
br1
zone,
the
rh5,
which
is
a
high
density,
residential
The,
bc2
Zone,
which
is
also
in
the
neighborhood
centers,
and
the
IG
and
IM
Zone,
where
we've
already
opened
up
the
eligibility
for
more
units.
V
Removing
that
density
limit
entirely
and
replacing
it
with
an
far
another
option
that
could
be
considered
here
too,
is
also
just
putting
an
open
space
requirement.
So
one
thing
we're
contemplating
is
that
in
the
industrial
zones
we
could
put
just
not
even
there's
already
an
far
for
non-residential
uses
per
the
jobs,
housing
imbalance.
We
could
for
the
residential
not
have
an
far
limit
for
residential
there,
but
maybe
just
put
a
an
open
space
cap.
So
it
could
be
like
the
rh3
Zone,
which
is
actually
our
most
intense
residential
Zone.
V
It
allows
the
most
units,
it
has
a
60
percent
open
space
requirement,
but
that
can
be
modified
down
to
30
percent,
with
planning
board
approval,
or
maybe
we
could
just
put
30
on
as
a
requirement.
These
are
some
ideas
that
are
floating
around
that
we
wanted
to
get
your
feedback
on,
but
we're
recommending
that
these
move
forward
as
options
moving
into
housing
types
like
I
said
this
gets
a
little
bit
more
challenging.
We
did
bring
an
ordinance
through
several
years
ago.
V
That
would
would
have
basically
allowed
for
the
conversion
of
single-family
homes
in
the
low
density
residentials
to
be
basically
chopped
up
into
either
duplexes
or
triplexes.
It
was
proposed
as
a
conditional
use,
so
it
would
have
had
to
have
met
some
criteria.
It
would
be
a
staff
level
review,
but
basically
would
be
looking
at
the
designs
of
the
building
to
make
sure
that
they
still
fit
in
with
the
single
family
character
of
the
neighborhood.
V
We
did
analysis
of
those
areas
and
because
of
the
density
limitations
there
weren't
there
wasn't
a
yield
of
too
many
additional
units
that
would
be
possible
by
doing
that.
There
are
some
Lots
say
up
in
the
RR
Zone,
where
it
has
a
minimum
lot
size
of
30
000
square
feet.
There
were
some
that,
were
you
know,
upwards
of
you
know,
90
to
100
000
square
feet.
V
Those
could
then
perm
commit
a
Triplex,
for
instance,
or
a
duplex,
but
there
weren't
really
that
many
there
was
only
about
a
little
over
a
hundred
properties
that
would
be
eligible
for
that.
So
we're
not
recommending
this
to
move
forward
at
this
time.
This
is
something
that
could
be
done
in
the
future.
We
think
it
would
be
more
appropriate
to
be
to
lump
this
into
a
more
holistic
look
through
the
comp
plan
and
then
through
rezonings
to
allow
greater
densities
in
these
zones,
obviously
with
Community
engagement.
V
But
again
we
could
do
this,
but
it
it
would
also
impact
the
timeline
and
again
this.
This
was
an
ordinance
that
was
brought
through
several
years
ago.
That
was
not
passed
by
a
council
at
the
time.
It
was
something
where
there
was.
There
was
a
fair
amount
of
resistance
from
the
neighborhoods
that
we
engaged
about
making
that
change
so
we're
not
recommending
B1
and
B2.
At
this
time
we
are
recommending
B3.
V
We
talked
about
this
with
Council
a
couple
years
ago
through
the
use
standards
phase,
one
project,
efficiency,
living
units
in
the
code,
they're
kind
of
like
micro
units
they're,
basically,
units
that
are
475
square
feet
or
smaller
right
now
or
the
way
the
code
was
before.
Is
that
any
project
that
had
more
than
20
percent
of
its
units
as
efficiency
living
units
had
to
go
through
a
use
review
process
that
was
loosened
up
through
use
tables
phase
one
to
forty
percent.
V
We
propose
to
remove
that
use
review
requirement
back
then,
but
the
council
at
the
time,
did
not
support
that
change.
We're
bringing
that
back
to
this
Council
and
we're
recommending
that
that
use
review
requirement
be
removed
for
elus.
So
this
again
would
be
a
kind
of
a
very
straightforward
change
to
allows
more
smaller
units
mark.
P
Yes,
I
am
I
was
what
was
the
original
theory
behind
requiring
youth
review
of
the
efficiency
living
units
at
40
percent.
V
That
was
in
the
code
for
some
time.
I
I
think
it
just
was
kind
of
like
a
new
idea,
maybe
back
in
the
in
the
80s
when
they
introduced
efficiency
living
units,
and
it
was
a
way
to
assess
impacts.
But
you
know
again
there's
other
mechanisms
in
the
code.
You
know
like
site,
review
parking
requirements
that
already
apply
to
these
projects.
The
the
user
view,
in
our
opinion,
is
kind
of
extraneous.
Okay,.
V
We
didn't,
we
didn't
think
that
that
was
necessary.
Okay,
thank.
P
V
And
then
moving
into
the
option,
C's
of
parking
changes,
C1
is
kind
of
a
an
obvious
Antiquated
parking
requirement.
That's
been
in
the
code
for
a
while
that
we've
been
hearing
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
community
to
change
it's
basically
any
project
that
has
more
than
60
of
its
units
has
one
bedroom
has
a
parking
requirement
that
jumps
up
to
1.25
parking
spaces.
V
I
think
that
was
calibrated
at
a
time
when,
when
city
the
city
of
Boulder
didn't
have
as
many
opportunities
for
Transit,
there
was
probably
more
car
ownership
at
that
time.
So
we're
recommending
that
that
requirement
just
be
changed
to
one
per
unit,
which
is
the
same
as
efficiency
living
units.
It's
again,
it's
we
find
it
to
be
a
an
Antiquated
part
of
the
code
that
could
be
removed,
I'll
jump
to
C3.
First,
we
do
a
number
of
parking
reduction
evaluations
at
the
city.
V
We
have
an
administrative
process
for
parking
reductions
up
to
25
of
the
parking
requirement
for
non-residential
projects
and
then,
if
it
goes
over
that
it's
something
that's
considered
through
the
site
review
process,
but
one
thing
we
do
have
in
the
code
that
we
perceived
as
a
barrier
is
that
any
parking
reduction
associated
with
a
residential
project
automatically
requires
site
review.
So
this
was
another
opportunity
for
the
code
where
we
could
process
residential
parking
reductions.
The
same
way,
we
do
commercial
parking
reductions
up
to
that
25
percent.
V
So
we're
recommending
that
move
forward
in
looking
at
other
communities
and
and
some
articles
that
have
come
out-
there's
been
a
lot
of
suggestions
for
maybe
not
requiring
parking
spaces
at
all
for
affordable
units
or
or
dropping
the
requirements
or
reducing
them
quite
a
bit.
We
we
evaluated
that
we're
not
recommending
that
that
move
forward.
At
this
time
we
felt
like
that
may
have
some
Merit,
but
we
we
have
some
hesitation
about
treating
affordable
units
differently
than
market
rate
units.
We
have
hesitation,
because
you
know
there
there's
an
equity
issue.
V
You
know
if
an
affordable
unit
just
doesn't
have
access
to
parking,
and
we
also
have
concerns
about
you
know.
If
this,
if
parking
requirements
were
reduced
or
removed,
it
could
lead
to
spillover
impacts
from
a
affordable
project
that
could
create
more
you.
You
know
Community
resistance
to
those
projects,
so
we're
not
recommending
that
at
this
time
we
we
do
think
that
it's
something
we
that
could
be
evaluated
further
as
more
of
a
holistic
analysis
of
our
parking,
which
we've
been
doing
kind
of
behind
the
scenes
for
several
years.
V
V
So
those
are
our
recommendations
on
the
potential
options,
so
I'm
going
to
jump
into
Community
engagement
and
board
feedback.
V
So
this
project
has
been
a
notice
of
this
Project's
been
going
out
on
the
pnds
newsletter.
We've
been
posting
on
the
city
website.
We've
been
having
conversations
with
people
that
are
interested
in
this
particular
code
change.
V
We
did
an
Outreach
project
on
event
on
February
22nd,
where
we
talked
about
all
the
different
housing
related
code
changes
and
we,
we
invited
housing,
Advocates
and
neighborhood
representatives
to
share
their
opinions
on
the
changes
and
in
housing
in
general,
we're
going
to
move
forward
after
tonight
after
we
get
some
feedback
from
Council,
on
which
options
to
focus
on
and
really
kind
of.
Let
people
know
what
what
to
comment
on
we're,
looking
to
do
open
houses
and
office
hours
in
the
coming
weeks
and
months.
V
We're
also
again
we're
trying
to
schedule
a
time
with
the
community
connectors
to
get
their
feedback
on
these
changes.
We're
not
going
to
try
to
go
too
deep
into
the
the
details,
but
we
do
expect
that
there
is
we've
already
gotten
feedback
from
them
on
adus
and
that
there
is
a
positive
feedback
about
just
increasing
any
options
that
add
to
the
affordable
housing
inventory
of
the
city.
V
So
some
of
the
feedback
that
we've
been
getting
so
far,
obviously
there's
some
in
the
community
that
that
agree,
that
adding
more
modest
size
housing
will
increase
housing
opportunities
and
help
those
that
are
struggling
to
find
housing
or
staying
in
Boulder,
and
that
this
these
particular
changes
in
tandem
with
the
other
ones
that
we're
working
on
are
are
consistent
with
our
housing,
housing
and
racial
Equity
goals.
But
we
have
been
hearing
some
comments
that
are
opposed
to
or
cautious
of
these
changes.
V
You
I
think
you've
heard
just
like
with
the
occupancy
discussion.
The
viewpoints
about
inelastic
markets
and
at
the
high
demands
of
living
in
Boulder
is
just
going
to
drive
more
expensive
housing
and
that
it
won't
necessarily
bring
the
housing
prices
down
again,
we've
been
making
the
point
that
you
know
adding
more
housing
is
going
to
increase
the
inventory
of
IH
housing.
V
What
we've
heard
as
an
alternative
to
that
is
just
that
the
city
instead
of
physically
changing
you
know,
neighborhoods
or
areas
of
the
city
really
focusing
more
on
just
increasing
in
Luffy's
or
commercial
linkage,
fees
to
get
more
deep,
restricted,
affordable
housing
and
we've
been
hearing.
You
know
concern
from
single
family
Property
Owners
about
any
kind
of
changes
that
would
introduce
more
density
or
different
housing
types
in
their
neighborhoods.
V
We
went
to
housing
Advisory
Board
last
night.
The
board
was
supportive
of
of
the
potential
options
that
we
posed
to
them.
They
did
Express
disappointment
that
that
the
missing
middle
housing
or
neighborhood
infill
into
single-family
neighborhoods,
is
not
something
that
we're
you
know,
including
as
part
of
the
scope
of
this
particular
project.
V
They
supported
any
kind
of
endeavor
that
would
and
whether
that's
what
the
bvcp
update,
but
something
that
would
update
the
plan
to
make
this
all
possible
in
the
future,
and
they
also
felt
that
some
more
aggressive
parking
related
changes
could
still
be
done
to
encourage
more
affordable
housing,
but
overall,
they
were
very
positive
about
the
options
that
we
presented
to
them.
V
So
as
far
as
next
steps
again-
so
we
we
talked
to
have
last
night
city
council
tonight
after
we
get
feedback
from
Council,
we'll
be
using
the
next
few
weeks
and
months
to
continue
the
analysis
of
of
the
of
the
options,
continuing
Outreach
on
the
options
doing
office
hours
to
help
answer
questions
we're
going
to
present
this
project
to
planning
board
on
April
18th,
we'll
start
developing
the
ordinance
and
I
expect
that
there's
going
to
be
some
things
that
we're
going
to
need
to
follow
up
on
with
with
city
council.
V
So
we're
scheduled
now
to
return
to
council
as
a
matters
item
on
June
15th.
So
we'll
report
back
on
the
feedback
that
we're
receiving
and
get
more
guidance
before
we
move
forward.
So
the
schedule
is
to
try
to
complete
the
the
project
by
September,
so
we'd
be
looking
at
bringing
the
ordinance
through
to
planning
board
in
August
and
then
bringing
it
to
City
Council
in
September.
V
So
that
concludes
my
presentation,
so
I'm
gonna
land
on
the
last
question,
which
is
which
potential
option
should
be
the
focus
of
any
further
analysis,
Outreach
and
ultimately
ordinance
development.
U
U
Thank
you,
I
just
have
a
quick
question.
As
I
was
hearing
this
conversation
and
I
wanted
to
ask
you.
How
does
the
governor's
plan-
because
you
mentioned
that?
How
does
that
impact
this
conversation
that
we're
having
and
does
this
work
have
any
point
of
intersection
with
it
at
all,
because
you
mentioned
it
in
passing,
but
you
didn't
really
go
into
details,
because
here
we
are,
you
know,
working
and
trying
to
find
ways
to
have
more,
provide
more
access
to
affordable
housing,
and
then
we
also
have
to
have
the
governor's
plan.
U
So
I
just
wanted
to
understand
a
little
bit
more.
How
does
that
impact
our
current
plan,
as
a
city
council
or
as
a
local
community.
V
Well,
it's
certainly
something
that
we're
looking
at
closely,
especially
if
it
ends
up
being.
You
know
some
sort
of
State
mandate.
What
I'm
communicating
to
you
tonight
is
kind
of
what
we
know
about
our
current
process.
So
obviously-
and
obviously
there
might
have
to
be
some
legal
response
to
this,
but
I
think
if
the
state
were
to
pass
a
mandate
on
you
know
there
has
to
be
these
types
of
housing
types.
Then
I
think
we
would
have
to,
within
our
capacity
just
start,
moving
forward
on
making
those
changes
to
comply
with
the
state.
D
Yeah,
if
I
can
piggyback
onto
that,
because
it
is
so
new
CUNY,
it's
just
impossible
to
kind
of
know
where
the
intersection
ultimately
is
going
to
land.
So
this
really
is
kind
of
in
the
context
of
current
code
moving
forward
with
counts
as
priorities,
but
we
would
we
would
definitely
pivot.
You
know
where
that
makes
sense
and
where
we
can
both
capitalize
on
whatever
the
new
law
is
or
conform
with
it
or
you
know,
whatever
is
the
appropriate
thing.
R
Question.
Thank
you.
Do
you
mind
if
I
call
it
a
little
bit
here,
because
I
think
the
stuff
about
changing
from
open
space
for
dwelling
unit
to
far
limits
it?
That's
going
to
be
completely
separate
from
anything
in
the
governor's
plan,
so
I
think
that,
as
as
well
as
like
the
use
review
for
the
efficiency
living
units,
I
don't
think
that
plays
into
it
probably
either
as
well.
So
I
think
these
are.
Those
are
some
changes
that
I
think
we
would
make
we
could
make
on
our
own.
R
That
probably
will
have
there'll
be
no
impact
either
way
from
from
the
land
use
bill
being
discussed.
V
P
A
couple
of
questions,
the
first
one
is
a
little
bit
offbeat,
but
on
page
two
of
the
memo
you,
you
mentioned
our
policy
against
demolition
in
the
opportunity.
Zone,
do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
how
that's
working
out
for
us.
V
To
my
knowledge,
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
demolitions
that
have
occurred
in
that
area,
it
was
meant
to
kind
of
freeze
some
of
the
the
market
rate
residential
units
that
exist
in
that
area
that
could
benefit
potentially
from
the
opportunity
zone.
So
there
is
an
overlay
that
basically
sends
an
alert.
You
know
if
a
project
were
to
come
in
that
they
wouldn't
be
allowed
to
to
demo
during
the
duration
of
the
opportunity.
Zone,
okay,.
P
And-
and
we
speak
often
of
modest
size
units,
can
you
define
what
a
modest
size
unit
looks
like
in
square
footage
or
Price
or
rental?
I
mean
what
what
is
the
category
that
we've
that
we're
defining
with
with
that
terminology.
P
X
That's
coming
on
sorry
about
that,
so
I
am
Sloane
Walbert
I'm
in
the
housing
division.
I,
don't
know!
If
Kirk
has
an
answer
for
that
I'm,
not
sure
we
have
an
exact
number
but
I
think
it
sort
of
goes
back
to
that
attainable.
Housing
definition
that
Carl
gave
of
its
others
a
size
that
limits
the
amount
of
rent
that
could
be
charged
or
could
be
sold
on
the
market.
P
Well,
I
I
get.
My
question
is
based
on
the
fact
that
you
know
you,
you
see
houses
selling
for
a
thousand
dollars
a
square
foot
in
Boulder.
So
yes,
it's
cheaper
than
a
mansion
on
in
Devil's
Thumb,
but
I'm,
not
quite
sure
what
you
know,
I'm
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
of
common
definitions,
a
paintable
can't
just
be
cheaper
than
that
Mansion.
It's
got
to
have
some
content
for
itself
and
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
is.
S
Maybe
I'll
add
in
is
as
well
Sloan
thank
you
so
Kurt
fernhaver
with
housing
and
Human
Services,
so
typically
under
our
deed,
restricted
units.
To
give
that
kind
of
comparison,
you
know
typically
they're
in
the
800.
You
know
1200
1300
square
feet
depending
on
those
are
one
two
and
three
bedrooms.
Efficiency
units
are
obviously
smaller.
S
1600
is
about
the
the
biggest
we
would
see.
So
you
know
in
the
context
of
this
conversation,
I
would
say
you
know
anything
smaller
than
1800
square
feet.
You
know
starts
to
get
into
that
range
and
to
answer
the
to
try
to
answer
the
second
part
of
your
question.
S
What
we
can
do,
though,
is
encourage
and
I
think
that's
what
Carl's
getting
at
encourage
smaller
units
and
our
code
actually
doesn't
encourage
smaller
units
right
now.
It
actually
encourages
larger
units,
and
so
we
can't,
even
in
many
of
these
areas,
we
can't
even
get
square
footages
that
become
somewhat
more
attainable.
P
Well,
in
a
few
years
ago,
we
we
did
a
a
study
of
what
incommuters
want
and
I
assume
that
finding
housing
for
in
commuters
should
be
a
a
significant
component
of
our
strategy.
Are
we
keying
anything
that
we're
producing
in
terms
of
housing
towards
that
sense
of
what
those
in
commuters
are?
Looking
for,
you
know,
I
know
we're
we're
we're
building
elus
for
that
market,
we're
building,
affordable
housing
for
people
who
qualify
for
that
kind
of
housing,
but
are
we
doing
anything
to
provide
housing?
P
For
you
know
a
couple:
that's
in
commuting.
You
know
a
nurse,
an
accountant
or
or
a
lawyer,
and
something
else
who
would
be
happy
to
live
here,
but
they're
not
going
to
live
here
in
you
know
a
900
square
foot,
two
bedroom
apartment,
or
are
we
trying
to
accommodate
the
people?
We
would
like
to
have
live
here?
Who
can't
live
here
or
we
just
hoping
that
the
market
will
will
help
us.
S
So,
as
far
as
I
know,
we
haven't
done
a
specific
survey
of
in
commuters
around
their
housing
needs.
However,
when
we
do
an
affordable
housing
project
as
part
of
the
process
for
financing,
there's
a
requirement
to
do
a
market
study,
and
so
when
you're,
putting
forward
like
the
type
and
mix
and
size
related
to
the
location
of
the
housing.
Those
are
all
factors
that
come
into
the
market
study
and
so
any
project
that
we
would
do
that's
more
of
a
permanently
affordable
project.
S
We
would
want
to
we,
we
go
through
a
process
to
ensure
that
it
is
meeting
a
market
need
for
individuals
that
can
afford
that
housing.
We
we
haven't
been,
we
we
haven't,
had
the
capacity
up
to
this
point
to
dive
into
those
needs
in
the
same
way,
within
the
market,
housing,
okay,.
P
I
had
one
other
question:
oh
the
the
memo
raised.
This
issue
that's
been
mentioned
many
times
about
the.
P
I'm
losing
my
train
of
thought.
Oh
the
issue.
The
issue
concerning
an
inelastic
Market
versus
an
elastic
Market
have.
A
P
Ever
actually
looked
at
it
to
see,
if
there's
any
truth
to
that,
or
you
know,
people
make
that
claim
all
the
time
I've
made
it
that
we
have
an
inelastic
market
and
most
of
what
we're
doing
is
not
going
to
have
much
impact
on
rental
or
purchase
prices,
but
there's
always
the
possibility
that
that's
not
so
have
we
ever
looked
at
it
to
to
analyze
that
to
see
if
it
in
fact
conforms
to
reality
or
or
not,.
V
Because
this
hasn't
been
any
kind
of
market
analysis
about
Boulder,
specifically
we've,
you
know
looked
at
a
different
studies
throughout
the
country
that
you
know
reference
cities
like
San
Francisco
and
the
Bay
Area
and
other
areas,
and
some
of
them
have
mentioned
Boulder,
anecdotally,
but
nothing
specific
to
Boulder,
but
I.
Think
just
by
experience
and
looking
at
housing
prices.
I
think
you
know
again
we're
just
we're
hearing
from
folks
in
the
community
that
call
it
that
and
I
think
there's
there's
probably
some
evidence
to
to
some
extent.
P
And
my
last
comment
is
I'm
fine,
with
the
parking
changes,
I
think
those
are
reasonable
and
the
sorry
I've
taken
up
so
much
time.
Thank
you.
L
Thanks
I,
wouldn't
necessarily
assume
that
people
wouldn't
want
to
live
in
800
square
feet.
I
think
that
an
architect
and
a
my
partner
are.
We
are
very
happy
people
living
in
Boulder
at
800
square
feet,
so
the
it
definitely
works
for
some
people,
but
I
understand
wanting
to
know
more
about
what
in
commuters
are
looking
at
or
would
convince
them
to
move
here.
L
I
wanted
to
check
in
on
going
back
to
this
land
use
thing.
Zoning
designations
would
be
in
the
high
density,
residential
land
use,
designation.
V
Like
what
zones
yeah
everything
that's
RH,
ISM.
L
V
L
But
yet
we
allow
people
to
build
a
single
dwelling
unit
on
a
lot,
and
then
you
have
Lots
where
we're
looking
at
the
minimum
lot
size
and
saying
that,
based
on
this
minimum
lot
size
that
we
can't
increase
density
because
it
would
be
against
the
Boulder
Valley,
comprehensive
plan
and
I'm,
not
necessarily
saying
that
we
need
to
do
that
in
this
project
across
all
zoning
designations,
or
anything
like
that.
But
I
just
fundamentally
disagree
with
that
interpretation
of
how
the
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan
is
used
and
how
these
areas
are
calculated.
L
L
A
L
V
We
really
kind
of
focused
on
where
the
comp
plan
anticipates
housing
growth
areas.
We
we
didn't.
We
were
more
cautious,
around
RH
zones
that
might
be
in,
for
instance,
the
opportunity
zone
or
or
next
to
a
single
family
zone.
So
we
did
select
ones
that
were
on
multimodal
corridors
in
neighborhood
centers
in
the
Boulder
Valley
Regional
Center.
L
Thank
you
was
any
other
thought
given
I
know
that
there's
sort
of
a
we
have
other
things
like
minimum
private,
open
space,
that
I
guess
I,
also
question
a
little
bit
that
feels
like
putting
unnecessary
restrictions
on
a
market
rate
unit
that
you
know,
developers
can
pick
parking,
they
should
also
be
able
to,
or
you
know,
I
think
we
should
be
looking
at
whether
or
not
developers
are
providing
the
product
that
makes
sense
both
in
terms
of
parking
and
other
open
space.
Things
like
minimum
private
open
space.
V
I
mean
our
hesitation
is
that
we've
we've
received
comments
from
you,
know
other
boards
and
councils
in
the
past
that
were
very
cautious
about
removing
any
you
know
private
open
space.
You
know
requirements
or
amenities,
so
we
did
not
look
at
that.
A
L
And
then
another
thing,
so
in
a
number
of
these
zones,
especially
the
denser
zones,
we
allow
both
residential
and
non-residential
uses.
One
of
the
things
that's
always
struck
me
odd
about
our
code
is
having
different
requirements
around
building
size,
based
on
what
the
use
is
so
saying
that
a
commercial
building
needs
a
certain
percentage
of
minimum
open
space
on
a
lot,
but
calculating
the
open
space
or
size
of
building
differently
for
residential
units.
L
Given
how
busy
you
guys
are.
Wouldn't
it
be
great
to
simplify
the
code
and
habits
and
also
allow
for
potential
changes
of
use
over
time
that
wouldn't
require
cutting
off
20
of
a
building
in
order
to
switch
it
from
being
an
office
building
to
a
residential
building.
Is
that
something
that
you
guys
would
be
open
to?
Looking
at
I.
D
Yes,
I
think
that's
one
of
those
things
that
we
recognize
we
could
and
should
look
into
within
the
scope
of
what
we're
presenting.
Today,
though,
these
are
things
that
we
feel
like
the
level
of
public
engagement
and
such
supports
this
within
the
time
frame.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
when
we
responded
that
we
could
look
into
that,
you
understood
that
that
might
be
kind
of
in
later
phases.
L
Okay,
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you,
I
think
you
know
you
can
hear
a
little
bit
of
frustration
from
me.
One
of
the
things
like
this
isn't
just
adding
housing.
In
my
experience,
this
is
also
we
are
losing
housing
in
our
community
because
of
some
of
these
rules.
Earlier
this
week,
I
was
asked
by
a
client
to
look
at
a
property
in
the
rmx1
zone.
It
is
a
property
that
has
that
is
currently
an
apartment
building
and
has
an
apartment
building
on
either
side
of
it.
L
It's
a
little
over
6
000
square
feet
and
if
they
were
to
which
they're
looking
at
redeveloping
it-
and
they
would
like
to
do
it
as
an
apartment
building
and
the
only
thing
that
they
are
allowed
to
redevelop
it
as
under
our
code.
Right
now
would
be
a
single
family
home
and
it
would
become
an
almost
4
000
square
foot
single
family
home.
L
L
I
would
like
to
see
the
duplexes
I
had
this
idea
around
parking
that
maybe
we've
try
and
bell
curve
it.
So
you
know
you
have
sort
of
the
amount
of
required
parking
for
a
typical
project,
and
if
someone
is
providing,
you
know
the
100,
like
120
percent
of
that
to
80
percent
of
that
we
say
that
amount
of
parking
is
just
Allowed
by
right.
H
Listening
to
your
thoughts
and
your
lived
experience
on
working
with
our
zoning
and
land
use,
so
I
would
just
like
to
add
kind
of
a
second
to
Lauren's
appreciation
for
all
this
work
and
the
ideas
that
are
coming
forward
and
also
her
desire
to
look
at
how
we
can
go
even
farther
than
that
kind
of
related.
H
H
I
really
am
like
so
confident
if
we're
gonna
get
there,
if
not
this
year,
then
soon
and
other
states
whose
growth
in
housing
costs
we've
mirrored
like
Oregon
and
California,
they
followed
this
pattern.
In
recent
years,
Washington
state
is
heading
toward
eliminating
single-family
zoning
right
now.
H
So
in
my
opinion,
this
really
is
not
a
matter
of
if
but
when.
So,
what
I
would
like
to
recommend
is
just
a
really
brief
comment.
After
my
long
preface
that
we
go
farther
faster
with
any
updates
that
are
related
to
what
the
state
is
looking
at,
like
going
with,
have
suggestion
of
more
aggressive
parking
changes,
I
think
it
could
really
just
help
create
a
bridge
to
get
our
community
from
where
we
are
now
to
where
we're
likely
to
be.
When
this
legislation
passes.
O
Tara
I
want
to
plus
one
most
of
what
Lauren
said.
I
know
we're
just
done
questions
now,
but
just
so
I
don't
forget,
especially
the
parking
bell
curves,
which
is.
O
Comments,
oh
great
anyway,
so
what
Lauren
said
and
I
thought
the
the
parking
bell
curves
might
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
understand,
but
I
support
them.
O
So
if
anyone
needs
that
re,
you
know
restated
I'd,
ask
her
to
do
it
and
then
a
question
about
Lauren's
question
about
the
averages.
O
So
I
I
understood
that
question
to
be
like
where
the
comp
plan
requires,
like
a
minimum
number
of
units
to
go
on
a
lot
like
you
can't
do
under
14
in
one
Zone
on
an
acre
if
I
follow
the
question
correctly
in
in
one
zone,
but
but
we
have
other
parts
of
the
code,
and
that
has
to
be
you
know,
on
average
and
in
those
zones
where
there's
a
minimum
like
you
can't
go
under
14
we're
going
all
the
way
down
to
one
on
some
Lots
with
use
review,
but
we
don't
invert
it
in
in
practice
right
and
Lauren.
O
Just
like
flag
me
if
I'm
getting
it
wrong.
So
we
don't
say
like
the
maximum
on
an
acre
is
six
in
this
one
zone,
but
we're
gonna.
Allow
you
to
do
seven
because
the
average
over
that
zone
is
is
well
under
six,
so
somebody
can
put
a
seventh
on
that
acre
or
somebody
can
have
a
duplex,
maybe
so
I
guess
I
just
want
to
understand
Carl
like
how,
under
the
count
plan,
how
do
we
get
to.
You
can
have
a
use
review
for
that
to
go
under,
but
we
don't
do
it
the
other
way.
O
If
you
want
to
go
over
if
the
average
within
that
whole
Zone
as
I
understand
it
is
within
the
comp
plan,
maximums
or
minimums.
V
O
V
I
mean
it
gets
really
tricky
when
you're
talking
about
average
density
across
a
particular
prescribed
area
like
researching
every
property
within
a
certain
area,
to
figure
out
the
density.
In
most
cases
you
know,
particularly
in
single
family
zones.
It's
pretty
constant.
It's
in
that
in
that
range
of
six
dwelling
units
per
acre.
They
typically
are
maxed
out.
V
There
are
some
areas
like
like
Lauren
brought
up
the
rmx
one
that
that's
a
little
more
challenging
and
complex,
because
it
was
a
high
density
Zone
in
the
past,
and
then
the
zoning
was
changed
to
basically
a
lower
density.
V
So
that's
that's
why
you
have
a
lot
of
non-conforming
apartment
buildings
in
that
area
and
that
if
you
were
to
redevelop
it
wouldn't
allow
more
than
a
unit
or
two
now,
but
that
again
I
think
we
we
run
up
against
those
limitations
in
the
comp
plan
because
of
the
non-conformities
and
that
there's
areas
of
the
are
maxed
out.
O
But
I
guess
it
would
seem
to
me
that
we
would
just
have
pretty
ready
access
to
like
you
know
this
Zone,
you
know,
incorporates
these
blocks
and
here's
how
many
units
are
on
that.
You
know
in
that
zone
we
don't
we
don't
have
that
as
a
city
because
it
just
seems
like
we
we
may
be.
You
know
already
farther,
along
than
we
think
we
are,
if
it's
possible,
to
do
some
of
the
stuff
that
we're
after
because
it
is
actually
allowed
under
the
comp
plan.
O
We've
just
been
sort
of
interpreting
it
or
applying
it
in
a
conservative
way,
and
maybe
we
want
to
say
let's,
let's
you
know,
lift
up
the
comp
plan
as
written
and
on
average
and
know
what
the
average
is
and
then,
if
you're
in
this
Zone
there's
room
for
200,
duplexes
there
or
whatever
like.
Is
that
an
option
I.
V
O
I'm
thinking
more
of
of
the
low
like
where
we
have
a
lot
of
single
family
homes,
because
what
we're
I
think
what
a
lot
of
us
are
looking
at
and
what
Mark
was
getting
to
earlier
is:
how
do
we
get
missing
middle
and
how
do
we
get
it
affordable,
so
yeah.
V
I
mean
we
we've
we've
done
a
fair
amount
of
analysis
of
the
single
family
areas.
Like
I
said
a
lot
of
them
are
already
maxed
out.
We've
done
an
analysis
of
of
their
the
minimum
lot
sizes
and
there's
very
few
lots
that
can
allow.
You
know
the
additional
density.
O
But
but
that's
on
a
lot
by
lot,
rather
than
an
average
across
the
whole,
the
whole
zone
so
like
a
lot,
might
be
maxed
out,
as
you
know,
on
that
block.
There's
that
that
there's
six
on
that
black,
but
maybe
the
next
Black
has
only
four
and
so
there's
you
know.
V
I
mean
the
other
point
I'll
make
is
that
you
know
the
point
of
this
project
from
the
beginning
was
was
Simplicity,
was
to
really
look
at
targeted
changes
and
and
doing
averaging
in
the
manner
that
you're
talking
about
looks
like
it
would
be,
adding
a
lot
of
complexity
to
the
code.
So
we
we
did
not.
You
know
we
kind
of
steered
away
from
that.
O
D
D
See
if
I
can
maybe
add
some
clarity
to
what's
being
discussed
aside
from
the
scope
issue,
which
you
know
clearly
is,
is
part
of
what
we're
trying
to
balance
here
too.
What
I'm
hearing,
though,
is,
is
the
observation
that
a
couple
council
members
are
making
which
we
acknowledge,
which
is
when,
when
there
is
a
density
number,
whatever
20
in
the
comprehensive
planned,
it's
probably
under
realized
in
actual
construction,
I
think
it's
the
point.
I'm
hearing
you
say
Rachel
is
that
you
know
the
average
actually
is
lower
than
that.
D
So
don't
we
have
capacity
to
get
up
higher
and
the
answer
would
be
yes,
I
think
from
an
administrative
standpoint,
the
challenge
becomes.
If
you
tell
everybody,
then
that
they
can
do
more,
then
you
again,
you
do
run
the
risk
that
you
push
beyond
the
average
and
that's
where
we
start
to
get
into
infrastructure
capacity
issues,
and
where
do
you
tell
people
where
to
stop
at
that
point?
If
that.
D
If,
if
the
property
right
in
that
zone
district
is
is
reinterpreted,
let's
say
it
would
have
to
be
granted
to
everybody
in
that,
and
we
would
potentially
then
see
everybody
then
push
beyond
what
the
infrastructure
in
that
area.
It's
definitely
an
area.
We
should
study
as
part
of
an
update
to
the
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
I
think
to
do
it
with
an
interpretation
or
a
change
in
the
code
is
where
it
becomes
problematic
is
I.
Think
what
what
we're
trying
to
say,
because,
hopefully
going
to
keep
me
honest
and
by
restating
okay.
O
I'll,
come
back
to
that
after,
but
I
I
understand
the
answer
to
the
question
there.
Thank
you.
So
I
have
a
couple
more
and
one
I'm
gonna
hold
that
one
just
because
I
think
it's
it's
a
little
too
much
for
tonight,
because
we're
already
so
late.
X
O
There
were
a
couple
spots
where
we
and
and
came
up
in
the
presentation
as
well
tonight,
where
it
was
mentioned,
like
staff
has
been
hearing
and
and
Boulder
has
been
called
and
some
have
noted,
and
then
there
was
alluding
to
there
were
some
conversations
with
the
public
and
and
I'm
trying
to
understand
like
who,
who
his
staff
been
hearing
from
and
and
who
was
invited
to
have
those
conversations
it's
kind
of
sounded
like
some
of
them
were
one-on-one
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that,
like
if
we're
putting
in
a
memo
that
Steph
has
been
hearing,
you
know
that
we
were
in
less
in
elastic
market
like
Mark
was
talking
about
like
you
know,
if
that's,
if
that's
two
people
saying
that
and
it's
it's
not
a
you
know,
I,
don't
know
statistically
compelling
or
or
necessarily
even
been
looked
into.
V
I
mean
we:
we
try
to
reach
out
to
people
on
both
sides
of
any
issue
to
hear
the
perspectives.
We
we
try
to
get
the
word
out
through
the
newsletter.
We
talk
to
anyone
who
reaches
out
to
us
I
think.
Through
the
Outreach
meeting,
we
tried
to
create
a
balanced
group
of
people
that
are
more
on
the
housing
advocacy
side
and
then
also
including
folks
from
single-family
neighborhoods
that
have
have
you
know,
have
shown
interest
in
this
project
before
so
we
tried
to
balance
it
out.
V
O
Okay
well
for
me
like
when,
when
people
say
like
people
say
or
I've
heard,
that's
that's
just
a
little
bit
tricky
because
it
sounds
anecdotal
and
and
maybe
reminds
me
of
a
recent
president,
but
then
moving
down
a
little
bit
in
the
same
thing.
On
engagement,
we
there's
a
couple
lines.
One
says
it
is
imperative
that
the
project
focus
on
targeted
stakeholder
Outreach
as
well.
O
This
includes
interested
groups
such
as
plan
Boulder,
better
Boulder,
Boulder,
Chamber
of
Commerce,
and
then
some
focus
groups,
and
you
know
the
the
ones
who
are
called
out
sort
of
above
the
line.
O
Specifically
I
guess
I
just
want
to
challenge
us
to
maybe
rethink
who
we're
calling
out
specifically
as
targeted
stakeholders,
and
you
know
below,
there's
there's
you
know
more
I,
guess:
diversity
of
a
viewpoints
or
or
people
who
might
be
involved
in
those
groups,
because
I'm
worried
that
and
I'm
I'm
very
familiar
with
two
of
these
two
of
the
three
groups
and
I.
O
Don't
know
that
any
of
them
capture
like
gen,
Z,
voices
or
much
Millennial
voices
and
those
are
are
the
generations
that
have
such
a
hugely
vested
interest
in
in
missing
middle.
Because
they're
priced
out
and
and
some
of
the
other
things
we're
looking
at
so
I
guess
want
to
to
ask
how
we
got
to
to
like
designating
who
is
a
targeted
stakeholder.
V
Think
some
of
it,
you
know,
comes
from
experience
of
of
working
here
for
many
years
and
and
the
people
that
we've
talked
to
and-
and
we
know
people
on
both
sides
of
the
issue
and
reaching
out
to
them.
But
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
kind
of
in
line
with
kind
of
the
discussion
we
had
during
occupancy
about
kind
of
broadening
Outreach
to
folks
that
we
don't
typically
reach
out
to
so
we
we
are
going
to
do
that
and
we
can
certainly
talk
about
these
options
and
those
conversations.
O
Okay
and
similarly
there's
next
door
is
called
out
a
little
bit
lower
and
I'm
not
bombing
on
next
door,
but
Wonder
like
what
is
the
flip
side
of
that
like?
Is
it
Reddit
or
is
it
tick
tock
like
so
there's
got
to
be
some
some
inverse
of
like
who
you
find
on
next
door
and
there's
nothing
in
the
memo
that
that
says
to
me
like
we're
gonna
get.
You
know,
kind
of
the
other
side
of
that
for
getting
the
word
out
and
and
promoting
opportunities.
O
D
If
I
can
add
just
one
other
thing
about
input
that
maybe
hasn't
been
stead
has
stated.
Is
that
a
lot
of
the
input
kind
of
implied
behind
this
too,
since
these
are
very
thin
slice
surgically
targeted?
You.
N
A
O
Okay,
that's
all
the
questions.
I'll
ask
thanks:
okay,
Matt.
N
Thanks
Tara
I
appreciate
that
and
thank
you
for
Brad
Carl
and
the
whole
team
for
diving
into
these
pieces.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
different
combinations
and
permutations
to
sort
of
splice
out
here
in
the
sort
of
ubiquitous
framing
of
affordability
and
housing.
So
so,
thanks
for
trying
to
suss
through
that,
you
know
there
seems
to
be
sort
of
I
think
what
I'm?
N
What
I'm
hearing
is
that
we're
we're
clearly
maybe
pausing
on
or
at
least
the
idea
is
to
pause
a
little
bit
on
pushing
for
duplexes
triplexes,
because
State
legislation,
May
Force
our
hand.
Inevitably
in
that
regard,
but
something
that
has
to
happen
regardless
is
it
seems
like
an
infrastructure
study,
because
it
seems
like
whether
the
governor's
plan
works
or
doesn't.
We
would
be
pursuing
wanting
to
increase
density
in
single-family
zones
through
duplexes
and
triplexes.
N
So
to
me,
just
like,
as
as
Aaron
was
saying
earlier,
there
are
things
that
are
independent
of
the
plan
and
infrastructure
study
seems
like
it
would
be
independent
of
the
plan,
because
it
would
happen
no
matter
what
and
so
I'm
wondering
how
do
we
move
that
up
or
or
where
do
we
fold
that
into
the
process
versus?
Are
we
waiting
to
make
a
decision
on
that
because
it
seems
like,
as
this
conversation
is
laid
out,
that
needs
to
happen
no
matter
what
and
so
I
just
want
to.
N
D
And
you're
right
that
would
need
to
be
a
very
robust
one
and
it
seems
clear
from
discussion
not
only
in
this
setting
but
in
in
other
settings
that
it's
time
for
a
city-wide
analysis
in
that
regard.
For
for
all
the
reasons
you
state.
N
Well,
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up
Brad,
because
you
know
it's
something
that
Carl
brought
up,
which
I'm
certainly
sensitive
to
is
that
you
know
just
discussing
you
know
changing
what
allowable
housing
is,
what
what
is
allowable
in
single-family
zoning
is
going
to
require
a
lot
of
feedback,
and
there
will
be
a
lot
of
opinions
and
thoughts
on
this
and,
as
that
pertains
to
the
comp
plan.
Does
that
scale
of
an
ask
or
a
project
go
really
outside
what
would
be
deemed
as
sort
of
the
normal
scope
of
work
for
the
comp
plan?
N
So
we
would
be
able
to
fold
that
in
there
would
be
capacity
for,
because
I'm
only
worried
that
if
it's
such
a
Monumental
part
of
it
would
we
need
to
then
create
that
as
part
of
our
work
plan
to
just
really
carve
out
the
space.
But
I
guess
maybe
you're
saying
that
no
it's!
It
will
fold
into
what
we
need
to
do
over
the
two.
D
D
On
it,
it
is,
it
is
complicated,
contemplated
sorry
like
contemplated
as
part
of
that,
and
in
fact
we
are
getting
prepared
to
put
a
scoping
document
together
for
you
with
a
long-range
projection
of
how
the
temperance
of
plan
would
lay
out,
because
we
do
Envision
a
very
robust
one.
That
does
need
a
good
amount
of
on-ramp
to
get
us
into
that
kind
of
comprehensive.
Look
that
you're
speaking
to.
N
Okay,
I
I,
I,
guess
I,
don't
know
if
my
next
question
fits
into
two
or
not,
but
I
guess
I'll,
just
ask
it
now
because
I'm
not
sure
it
really
fits
into
two,
since
it's
really
residential.
So
my
last
real
question,
slash
comment
is
kind
of
circle.
It
is
still
on
the
same
topic.
N
N
Think
about
allowing
you
know,
duplexes
or
triplexes
in
some
limited
set
spots
in
single-family
residential
through
use
tables,
so
that
we
can
start
to
build
that
capacity
and
inventory
sooner
rather
than
later
and
so
I
understand.
Infrastructure
plays
a
role
there,
but
I'm
thinking,
maybe
Corner,
Lots
or
some
other
way
to
keep
it
limited,
but
still
build
that
capacity,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
our
school
enrollment
is
dropping
and
we
are
not
getting
the
needed
families
in
those
areas
to
maintain
those
School
enrollments.
N
So
if
we
have
to
wait
two
years
before,
we
start
doing
that,
we're
we're
further
behind
the
eight
ball
versus
just
starting
to
gradually
take
a
bite
out
of
that.
So
that's
something
that
I
hope
that
we
could
be
interested
in
and
do
so.
That
doesn't
require
the
other
facets
of
comp
planning
and
infrastructure
study
as
well.
V
We
we
already
allow
it
in
rl2.
Rl2
is
kind
of
a
unique
low
density
Zone
because
it's
two
to
six
dwelling
units
per
acre,
but
it
does
allow
attached
housing
triplexes.
You
know
quad
plexes,
but
it
still
has
to
meet
those
density
limits.
So
we
could
do
something
similar
in
those
other
zones.
But
again
the
point
we're
making
is
that
a
lot
of
those
areas
are
maxed
out.
It
makes
it
difficult.
V
R
Can
I
go
to
to
number
two
with
feedback?
Do.
R
Great
well
I
appreciate
all
the
comments
people
have
made,
and
you
know
the
directions.
People
are
thinking
of
this
going.
So
some
some
great
questions
and
comments
there,
I
I'll,
just
add
my
voice
to
say
that
I
don't
think
we
would
have
to
revise
the
comprehensive
plan
to
potentially
change
some
density.
R
You
know
for
density
allowances
for
attached
housing,
but
I'm
not
going
to
go
deep
into
that
right
now,
because
I
want
to
keep
my
eyes
on
the
prize
on
this
particular
project,
which,
for
me,
is
about
changing
from
the
opens
place
or
per
this
per
square
footage
per
dwelling
unit
and
instead
to
an
far
approach.
This
is
we've
been
hamstrung
by
these
regulations.
R
For
decades
we
keep
getting
larger,
more
expensive
units
or
getting
commercial
properties
where
we
would
rather
have
housing
because
we're
not
allowing
enough
units
and
smaller
enough
units,
and
so
this
is
the
piece
that
I'm
really
interested
in
this
project.
I'm
very
excited
to
see
this
coming
forward.
I've
been
frustrated
about
this
for
over
10
years.
R
In
my
time
on
playing
boarding,
Council-
and
this
will
unlock
I-
think
hundreds
of
housing
units
at
more
affordable
price
points
and
get
us
more
inclusionary
units,
as
well
as
a
consequence,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
here
is
simple
enough
to
get
that
initiative
across
the
Finish
Line
in
the
next
few
months,
because
I
think
it's
by
by
far
our
biggest
Community
benefit
from
from
this
initiative
and
I.
R
Think
one
of
the
things
that
this
Council
will
come
accomplish,
that,
while
subtle
and
kind
of
inside
baseball,
will
make
a
real
difference
for
the
community,
so
really
excited
that
you
brought
this
forward
and
I
just
would
like
to
support
something
that
Lauren
mentioned
earlier,
which
is
that,
if
we
can
add
in
a
few
additional
zones
that
would
make
sense
that
our
you
know
how's
it
like
RH
zones
hide
and
sea
housing
zones
that
are
like
along
some
of
our
Transit
corridors.
That
could
also
benefit
from
this
change.
R
Then
I
would
love
to
see
that
as
well.
Hopefully
it
wouldn't
be
too
much
more
work
to
just
add
in
you
know
two
or
three
additional
zones
since
you're,
essentially
taking
the
same,
making
the
same
kind
of
change
to
those
as
you're
making
to
the
ones
that
you've
proposed
here
so
I'm
not
going
to
list,
which
ones
I
think
are
the
best
ones.
But
if
you
could
spend
a
few
minutes
looking
into
that
and
considering
whether
there
could
be
a
few
others
I
think
that
would
be
beneficial
and
your
other
recommendations,
I
think
are
great.
R
You
know
we
don't
need
the
additional
use
reviews
on
the
efficiency
living
units.
You've
proposed
some
targeted
parking,
Improvement
changes
that
I
think
are
great,
so
we'd
love
to
see
those
move
forward.
One
thing
I
would
just
say
with
the
change
on
the
administrative
reduction
on
parking
so
that
it
could
be
done
administratively
at
25.
Consider
being
a
little
more,
you
know
aggressive
on
that
one.
Maybe
it's
30,
maybe
it's
35
percent
I
think
generally
I.
R
You
know
I
would
love
to
see
us
revise
our
parking
regulations
at
a
more
granular
level.
We
don't
have
time
for
that
this
year,
but
in
the
meantime,
I
think
really.
Our
parking
requirements
ask
for
too
much
parking
and
so
I
think
we
could
be
a
little
more
aggressive
here.
I
really
liked
Lauren's
tiered
idea.
I,
don't
know
if
there's
time
to
fit
that
in
right
now,
but
I
thought
that
was
promising.
R
R
You
know
wait
until
later,
because
I
think
it
is
a
much
larger
discussion
in
the
sense
that
there's
a
lot
of
community
interest
in
that
and
it
could
slow
down
the
rest
of
these
I
think
really
promising
proposals
that
I'd
like
to
see
get
across
the
finish
line,
and
that
is
an
area
that
would
most
likely
very
likely
be
directly
impacted
by
the
state
legislation.
If
it
should
pass
so
I
think
we
we
would
be
needing
to
update
things
based
on
that
legislation.
R
So,
rather
than
try
to
do
things
twice,
you
know,
let's,
let's
wait
and
see
where
that
goes.
Do
it
once
and
get
these
other
fantastic
things
done
this
year.
B
That
was
the
right
way
to
say
that
and
agree
with
you
Aaron
and
also,
even
though
I'm
new
to
the
housing
world
I'm
very
excited
about
the
removal
of
density
requirements.
B
Lauren
smiling
and
also
I
agree
with
Lauren's
suggestion
as
well
like
you
do,
and
so
it
is
9
55
in
five
minutes,
it'll
be
ten
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
are,
if
you're
good,
to
go
with
these
recommendations
or
do
you
need
anything
else
from
us
foreign.
V
I
think
we'll
have
to
consider
a
lot
of
the
you
know,
Divergent
comments
here
and
then
go
out,
for
you
know
more
Outreach,
look
for
other
options
and
then
come
back
to
the
council
in
June
to
kind
of
talk
through
it
a
little
bit
more
and
see
what
to
move
forward
on.
D
To
get
further
clarification,
would
it
be
possible
to
see
if
there
is
consensus
among
the
council
for
at
a
minimum
of
the
the
very
specific
recommendations
that
we
made
and
then
recognize
that
there
was
a
list
of
other
other
items,
but
but
just
wanting
to
make
sure
we
there's
agreement
around
the
specific.
B
Absolutely
absolutely
checking
in
real
quick
with
Junie
who
hasn't
spoke.
Juni.
Do
you
want
to
say
anything
you're,
good?
Okay,
all
right?
Yes,
good!
Okay!
So
let's
take
a
straw
poll
and
everybody
who
thinks
who
agrees
with
the
staff
recommendations
to
give
Clarity
to
staff,
raise
your
hands
one,
two,
three,
a
lot
of
sort:
ofs,
let's
see
one
two,
three
four
five
I'm
gonna
say
we
have
a
majority
good.
N
B
N
C
Is
that
I
believe
there
is
consensus
from
Council
to
move
forward
with
the
staff
recommendations
as
kind
of
the
floor,
but
that
there
is
an
interest
to
continue
looking
and
expanding
at
ways
in
which
we
can
really
attack
and
finding
additional
ways
for
housing
to
look
at
parking
to
look
at
a
variety
of
things,
but
that
you
don't
want
staff
to
not
been
get
to
the
Finish
Line
on
what
could
be
an
ordinance
in
September
by
virtue
of
not
being
able
to
add
things?