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B
Thank
you,
Alicia,
just
to
lay
out
the
format
for
this
evening.
We
have
one
public
hearing
for
this
special
meeting
and
that
is
our
meteor
boarding.
Commission
appointments
once
that's
complete
I'm,
going
to
close
the
special
meeting
and
then
hand
the
virtual
gavel
over
to
council
member
Yates
to
then
have
lead
our
study
session
afterwards,
which
has
two
items
so
I'll.
Let
him
talk
about
those
when
we
get
there
well
so
for
now,
if
we
can
go
to
our
one
and
only
public
hearing,
please.
C
F
I
I
actually
think
you
don't
even
need
me
today,
because
we
are
in
great
hands
with
our
clerk's
office
as
we
think
about
that.
So
Felicia
I
will
send
that
right
back
to
you.
Thank.
C
You
ma'am
thank
you
ma'am,
so
good
evening,
Council
Elisha,
Johnson,
your
city,
clerk
and
Records
manager
and
before
we
begin
this
process
of
nominating
and
appointing
board
and
commission
candidates
to
fill
our
current
vacancies,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
provide
an
outline
of
our
process
for
this
item.
There
are
two
steps:
first,
we
will
present
slides
of
each
board
and
commission
identify
which
seats
are
vacant,
along
with
their
required
qualifications,
the
eligible
candidates
and
whether
they
have
applied
to
any
other
boards.
C
The
second
step
we
will
ask
them
I
will
ask
the
mayor
to
open
our
public
hearing
close
it
when
it's
completed
and
turn
the
discussion
back
to
me,
to
provide
counsel
with
guidance
on
how
the
nomination
and
appointment
process
will
proceed.
Emily.
If
you
would
please
present
the
slides,
we
will
go
over
the
boards
and
commission's
open
seat
of
vacancies.
C
Next
slide,
please
our
first
board
that
we
are
seeking
appointments
to
is
our
environmental
Advisory
Board.
We
have
seat
number
two
that's
available
and
that
is
to
appoint
a
member
to
an
unexpired
four-year
term
through
March
31st
2027
seat.
Four
is
to
appoint
a
member
to
an
uninspired,
one-year
term
through
March
31st
2024..
We
have
four
applicants
for
these
two
seats.
We
have
Hannah
Davis,
Richard,
gyocia,
Greg,
Hill
and
Alan
Lewis
next
slide.
C
C
C
Next,
please,
we
have
next
our
University
Hill
commercial
area
management.
Commission.
We
have
two
seats
available
for
appointment.
Seat
number
two
is
to
appoint
a
member
to
a
five-year
term
through
331
2028.
This
seat
is
for
a
property
owner
or
representative
of
a
property
owner
as
with
seat
three,
with
the
same
terms
and
the
same
requirements.
We
have
one
applicant
for
either
of
those
seats
which
is
tell
Jones.
B
B
We'll
catch
you
at
another
meeting
we'll
then
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
and
bring
it
back
to
council.
So,
let's
get
started.
If
we
can
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
have
the
slides
up
for
this.
B
C
B
You
John
all
right
and
I
can
actually
see
you
all
pretty
well.
I'll
just
ask
you
to
hold
up
your
hands
for
a
while
when
you,
when
we
do
voting
all
right,
so
we
have
the
environmental
Advisory
Board
two
seats
available.
I
think
we
generally
will
start
with
the
longest
term.
First,
so
seat
number
two
of
an
unexpired
four-year
term
I'll
accept
nominations
from
the
floor.
B
G
Thank
you,
I
wanted
to
nominate
Hannah
Davis
I
was
very
impressed
with
her
professional
background.
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
as
a
kind
of
the
main
woman
who
applied
here.
I
think
she
brings
an
interesting
perspective
there,
especially
being
a
mom
with
with
young
children
there
as
well.
She
just
she
seemed
like
with
her
professional
background
and
her
personal
experiences.
She
would
be
a
really
good
person
to
have
joining
this
board.
B
E
Yeah
I'm
going
to
nominate
Richard
giosia.
He
seems
to
have
a
an
extremely
substantial
background
and
environmental
issues
and
I
think
he'd
make
a
a
wonderful
addition
to
the
board
just
based
on
technical
capabilities
and
experience
in
the
field.
B
Seeing
none
does
anybody
else
want
to
speak
to
this
or
I'll
just
call
on
myself
here,
I'll
just
say:
I
thought,
Hannah,
Davis's,
application
and
interview
were
both
stellar
and
I'm
excited
to
be,
hopefully
appointing
her
to
the
board,
so
I'll
be
supporting
her
this
evening.
All
right,
seeing
no
other
hands
I
will
call.
Oh,
please
tell
me,
are
we
going
alphabetical
or
backwards
alphabetical
for
our
start?.
C
C
B
And
then
I'm
going
to
ask
Rachel
if
it's
all
right
with
you,
you
can
raise
your
virtual
hand
for
your
chosen
person.
I've
I
can
see
you
in
the
participant
list,
so
reverse
alphabetical.
We
will
start
with
Richard
joshia,
all
in
favor.
B
I
got
one
from
Mark,
which
means
that
goes
to
Hannah,
so
congratulations,
Hannah
for
being
appointed
to
the
four-year
term
and
Matt.
H
I
just
want
to
say,
like
it
would
have
been
nice
if
we
could
have
voted
in
affirmation
for
Hannah
I
know
just
based
on
how
Stellar
she
did
an
interview
and
and
stuff
so
I
know
it
goes
by
default,
but
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
fair.
B
Point
I'll
ask
I'll
I'll,
go
back
all
in
favor
of
Hannah
Davis
raise
your
hand,
I
got
I
got
eight
and
I'll
I'll.
Do
that
going
forward
Matt
thanks
for
the
prompt
Tara.
Did
you
have
a
comment?
No.
I
B
Okay,
how
any
others
Nicole.
G
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
nominate
Greg
Hill
for
this
two-year
term.
I
was
impressed
with
him
having
been
a
wild
band's
restoration,
volunteer
I
think
it's
always
wonderful
to
have
people
who
have
conflict
resolution
and
communication
skills.
I
really
appreciated
how
he
talked
about
engaging
more
youth
on
this
board
and
I
think
his
Decades
of
experience
as
a
computer
network
engineer
just
really
give
him
an
interesting
way
of
thinking
about
these.
G
These
bigger
issues
also
I
think
it's
notable
that
we
have
somebody
with
a
disability
who
has
applied
for
one
of
our
boards
and
I
think
this
is
a
perspective
that
we
are
very
often
missing
in
our
boards
and
commissions,
and
so
I
also
think
it
would
be
wonderful
to
have
somebody
who
brings
that
unique
perspective.
In
addition
to
experience
working
in
this
area.
B
Well
said,
any
other
nominations
or
comments,
seeing
none,
we
can
go
ahead
and
vote
and
this
time
we
are
in
alphabetical
order,
so
we
will
actually
once
again
start
with
Richard
Joseph.
All
in
favor
raise
your
hand
s
three,
all
in
favor
of
Greg
Hill.
B
J
Thanks
I
really
struggle
with
this
one,
because
these
are
both
amazing
candidates.
J
B
Yeah,
let's
do
nominations
first
and
we'll
go
to
comments.
Nominations
mark.
E
Yeah
I'm
gonna
nominate
James
Lindberg
his
background
in
the
National
Trust
for
historic
preservation
speaks
well
for
his
abilities
to
serve
on
the
landmarks
board
and
I
will
support
him.
B
Again,
I
won't
ask
for
more
nominations.
Any
comments,
cool.
G
You're
just
going
to
know
one
of
the
things
that
I
appreciated
about
Renee
was
also
her
work
around
Energy
Efficiency.
To
me,
this
issue
of
how
Landmark
spits
with
making
sure
that
our
buildings
are
energy
efficient,
as
we
move
forward
felt
like
a
really
important
one,
and
so
I
I
will
be
supporting
Renee.
B
Anyone
else
and
Lauren
I
think
your
hand's
still
up
I'm,
not
sure.
If
you
want
to
say
there
we
go
Lauren.
Do
you
want
to
say
something
else,
nope
down
again
all
right,
seeing
seeing
no
others
I'll
just
call
myself
an
echo
that
we
have
two
extremely
well
qualified
applicants
here,
so
we're
in
good
hands,
so
reverse
alphabetical
this
time,
so
all
in
favor
of
James
Lindberg.
B
Oh
my
God
one,
two
three,
all
in
favor
of
Renee
golbeck.
B
I
I
would
like
to
nominate
Mason
Roberts.
First
of
all,
his
he's
he's
very
he's
done
a
lot
of
board
work
he's
a
rock
climber.
He
uses
the
God.
He
also
cares
about
species
and
management
of
the
open
space.
So
I
think
he
combines
the
recreation
part
of
open
space
with
also
caring
about
the
the
species
and
all
the
details
that
you
need
to
know
to
to
be
a
well-qualified
on
the
open
space
board.
So
here's
my
pick.
B
H
Thanks
Aaron
I'm,
going
to
nominate
Harmon
Zuckerman,
a
Harman,
I,
think
reputation,
sort
of
precedes
him
having
been
on
planning
board,
have
been
shared
and
I.
Think
what's
really
critical
here
is
you
know,
osbt
needs
needs
some
help
getting
back
on
its
feet
and
getting
back
to
a
high
function
after
what's
sort
of
been
going
on
for
the
past
year,
plus
so
I
think
it's
really
critical
that
someone
like
Harman
can
step
in
and
kind
of
on
day.
H
One
already
understand
the
functioning
of
boards,
how
it
works
the
relationships
with
staff
and
really
get
that
board
operating
at
a
high
high
level,
which
is
what
we
need
in
our
community
and
and
I'm
very
confident
that
Harmon
will
bring
his
skill
set
his
knowledge
to
really
get
osbt
operating
at
the
level
that
we've
all
come
to
expect,
and
we
know
that
they're
totally
capable
of.
B
E
Yeah
I,
like
both
the
Mason
and
Harmon
but
I'm,
going
to
nominate
John
gorsel
he's
got
a
very,
very
substantial
background
in
the
field
and
I
think
he
would
do
an
excellent
job
he
served
on
boards
before
and
so
I.
B
J
Thanks
I
just
wanted
to
speak
to
the
nomination
of
Mason
Roberts
I
think
you
know
he
is
friendly,
even
keeled,
and
really
able
to
balance
both
sort
of
the
big
picture.
Thinking
and
the
Deep
dive
into
the
nitty-gritty
details
and
data
analysis
and
I
think
that
that
will
serve
him
really
well
on
this
board.
J
B
G
Morning,
Sam
I
will
be
supporting
Mason
as
well.
I
just
want
to
Echo
Tara's
comments
about
his
board
experience.
He
was
really
thoughtful
about
this
position,
both
in
his
application,
as
well
as
his
interview,
I,
think
his
perspective
as
a
young
father
with
three-year-old
twins
is
an
interesting
one
for
the
board.
G
I
really
appreciated
the
lens
that
he
was
giving
to
ensuring
Equitable
access
to
our
trails
and
open
space,
and
you
know
to
the
point
about
open
space
needing
people
who
already
have
five
plus
years
with
City
boards.
The
open
space
board
actually
feels
like
a
really
fun
high
functioning
one
to
me
because
they
handled
an
issue
that
came
up
that
was
disrupting
their
board,
and
so
this
feels
like
a
board
where
you
know
it
is
functioning
very
well
as
it's
supposed
to
and
I
think.
G
That's
allowing
more
people
to
come
in
and
serve
on
our
boards
and
commissions,
so
just
all
around
I
really
appreciate
Mason
I
think
this
is
a
great
board
for
him
to
go
into,
and
I
would
like
to
see
us
opening
up
these
spaces
to
folks
who
haven't
served
before
so
that
we
can
bring
more
leaders
into
our
community.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
D
Thanks
Aaron
for
for
flagging
my
hand,
I
I,
do
think
Mason's
an
outstanding
applicant
I'm,
going
to
support
Harman
for
a
couple
reasons,
as
stated
by
Matt,
and
just
wanted
to
emphasize
that
with
open
space.
I
think
his
perspective
is
a
land
use
attorney
when
so
much
of
what
they
do
is
you
know
involves
land
and
land
use
is,
is
a
pretty
awesome
addition
to
that
board?
So
that's
one
of
the
primary
reasons
that
I'm
supporting
him
thanks.
K
Colleagues,
I
think
we
got
some
absolutely
outstanding
candidates
here.
This
is
a
very,
very
tough
decision
for
all
of
us
to
make
I
do
want
to
just
make
the
observation
that
this
appointment
tonight
will
be
for
really
a
one
and
a
half
year
term,
until
March
of
2025.,
but
we
have
another
appointment
that
will
be
coming
up
in
just
about
six
months
in
February
March
of
next
year.
K
So
I
hope
that
that
whoever
has
applied
for
this
this
year
and
a
half
Position
will
consider
applying
for
the
full
five-year
term
if
they
don't
get
a
plenty
tank
at
five
year
term
in
the
in
the
in
the
spring,
so
I
think
we're
going
to
get
over
the
next
half
year.
We're
going
to
hopefully
pick
up
two
of
these
great
people.
B
Thanks
Bob
I'll
go
ahead
and
call
on
myself
and
say
I've
said
a
very
difficult
Choice.
For
me,
the
I
feel
like
both
Mason
and
Armin
would
do
a
phenomenal
job.
I
was
very
impressed
by
both
of
their
applications
and
by
both
of
their
interviews.
B
I
think
you
know
the
the
I'm
tilting
for
reasons
that
that
Matt
and
Rachel
have
stated
I'm
tilting
towards
Harmon
for
this
appointment
right
now,
but
I'll
Echo.
That
I
would
strongly
strongly
encourage
Mason
to
apply
again
here
in
a
few
months
when
this
position,
when
the
next
position
opens
in
the
new
year
and
then
just
a
shout
out
a
former
planning
board
colleague,
John
gerstel,
whose
family
history
in
the
open
space
area
is
legendary.
B
B
I
got
two
votes
now:
Mason
Roberts,
three
votes
fireman,
Zuckerman,
all
right,
I'm,
sorry,
Genie,
I
I
saw
you
raise
your
hand
for
for
John
already.
B
Okay,
well,
I'll!
Stick
you
I'll,
keep
you
with
John,
since
that
was
your
your
first
vote,
then
so
so
Harmon,
let's
try
again
on
Harmon,
because
I
can
get
rid
of
these
hands.
I
got
one
two
three,
four
okay,
so
we
got
four
three
two,
so
that
will
mean
that
John
gerstal
will
will
drop
off
as
the
third
place,
getter
vote,
getter
and
then
I
believe
we
switch
to
reverse
alphabetical.
B
B
Okay,
this
is
a
complicated
one,
not
sure
whether
to
start
with
seat
two
or
C3.
But
let's,
let's
go
for
seat
number
two,
five
year
term.
Would
anyone
like
to
nominate
someone.
H
Matt
yeah
I'll
nominate,
tell
Jones
here,
as
many
of
you
may
know,
tells
sort
of
a
recent
partner
to
become
a
new
partner
at
the
sink
and
been
a
manager
there
for
a
long
time
and
the
sink
celebrating
their
100th
anniversary.
And
if
any
of
you
were
at
the
documentary
for
this
sync
tell
got
probably
the
loudest
cheer
of
anybody
when
he
was
brought
on
stage
so
loved
by
the
employees
at
the
sink
and
loved
by
a
lot
of
people
that
work
on
the
hill.
H
I
think
he'd
bring
a
great
perspective
with
with
what
he
he
does
at
the
sink,
but
also
how
he's
connected
with
folks
in
the
community
and
so
I
think
he'd
do
a
great
job
in
the
seat.
B
B
Okay,
so
we
have
made
all
of
our
selections,
so
I
would
then
invite
a
motion
to
appoint
to
a
motion
to
approve
the
appointments
that
we
have
just
selected.
B
I
got
I
got
nine
all
right.
The
motion
passes
unanimously,
all
right,
congratulations
to
all
the
people
appointed
and
thanks
so
much
to
everyone
who
applied
and
do
definitely
consider
re-applications.
If
you
were
not
selected
tonight,
we
had
a
wealth
of
talent
available
to
us
and
with
that
five
minutes
ahead
of
schedule,
I
will
gavel
the
special
meeting
close
and
hand
the
reins
over
to
council
member
Yates.
K
Thank
you
Aaron,
so,
just
for
the
record,
this
is
the
when
I'm
moving
to
the
August
10
2023
study
session.
We
have
two
topics
for
tonight,
both
of
them
going
to
be
presented
by
Community
Vitality.
Let
me
just
make
a
couple
comments
before
I
turn
it
over
to
nurio
for
introductions.
The
first
topic
we'll
cover-
and
these
are
both
scheduled
for
90
minutes.
We
may
be
able
to
beat
that
first
topic.
It
relates
to
University
Hill.
Revitalization
in
the
second
relates
to
commercial
affordability.
K
With
respect
to
the
hill,
when
I
reviewed
the
the
slide
earlier
today
with
Community
Vitality
I
think
we
agreed
that
it's
a
pretty
beefy
set
of
slides
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
there
and
so
I
think
when
Regan
leads
us
through
this
we're
going
to
take
a
few
pauses
for
questions.
So
so
don't
don't
get
concerned.
K
If
you
have
questions
right
away,
because
I
think
we're
going
to
take
two
or
three
pauses
in
in
logical
places,
and
let
folks
ask
questions
of
the
presenter
and
then
there'll
be
questions
for
us
at
the
end.
The
second
presentation,
I
think,
won't
require
that
if
you
have
a
really
burning
question,
you
need
to
interrupt,
raise
your
hand
of
course,
but
if
you
can
hold
your
question
to
the
end
in
the
second
presentation,
that
would
be
great
and
then
we've
got
some
guests
with
us
tonight,
I
I.
K
We
anticipate
that
there's
a
possibility.
There
may
be
some
questions
relating
to
Transportation
tonight
on
the
University
Hill
presentation.
It's
a
community
Vitality
presentation,
but
Natalie
Stifler
was
kind
enough
to
join
us
tonight.
So
just
know
that
Natalie's
in
the
wings
and
ready
to
answer
any
transportation
related
questions
you
have
and
then
finally,
the
University
Hill
matter
has
been
reviewed
by
you,
campsie
to
to
which
board
we
just
wanted
someone,
and
we
do
have
the
chair
of
the
youcamsi
board
Cheryl
Liguori
available.
F
Thanks
so
much
councilmember
and
I'll
try
to
keep
it
brief,
because
we
do
and
have
a
beef
y
or
a
set
of
two
beefy
conversations.
So
tonight
we're
focusing
on
our
commercial
areas,
and
it
is.
It
is
certainly
Community
Vitality
evening
as
we
as
we
embark
on
this.
Hopefully,
what
we're
talking
about
is
how
we
continue
to
support
the
over
7
500
businesses
that
contribute
to
the
vibrancy
of
our
city.
F
So
I'll
send
it
to
Chris
Jones
to
kick
us
off
more
formally,
but
also
wanted
to
know
that
we
have
a
staff
member
who
is
not
just
coming
to
council
for
the
first
time
tonight,
but
it's
actually
coming
twice
and
it's
a
bit
of
a
glutton
for
punishment
and
I'm,
not
quite
sure
how
much
Chris
is
going
to
have
to
pay
her
for
doing
double
duty
on
her
first
time
out.
But
I
hope
you
give
Regan
Brown
a
warm
welcome
as
she
walks
us
through
a
presentation,
but
first
I'll
send
it
over
to
Chris.
M
Thanks
so
much
Nuria
good
evening,
city,
council,
Chris,
Jones,
director
of
community
Vitality,
so
delighted
to
be
able
to
be
here
with
you
all
this
evening
to
Daylight
some
work
that
we
have
been
talking
about
for
a
while
You
Might
Recall
back
at
the
retreat
earlier
this
year
of
the
many
work
plan,
priorities
that
Community
Vitality
had
for
2023.,
two
of
them
were
University
Hill,
commercial
area,
revitalization,
and
so
we've
been
working
really
hard
on
that
and
the
other
another
one
of
them
was
an
affordable
commercial
program,
development
and
so
lucky.
M
Lucky
Regan
Brown
who's
been
with
Community
Vitality
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
came
to
Boulder
from
New
York
City
I'm,
going
to
call
it
a
double
header.
It's
baseball
season.
We
have
a
double
letter
and
she
will
be
rewarded
later
this
evening,
but
really
just
want
to
express
my
sincere
appreciation
to
everybody.
Who's
been
working
on
these
efforts
and
I'm
glad
to
just
hand
it
over
to
Regan
now
and
we'll
look
forward
to
answering
your
questions
and
getting
some
direction
from
you
all
on
our
next
steps.
Moving
forward.
N
Thank
you
Chris
and
thank
you
Maria
hi,
everyone,
I'm
Regan.
It
is
my
first
time
here
at
Council,
but
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here
this
evening
and
I'm
excited
to
dive
into
Hillary.
Vitalization
I
want
to
provide
you
with
an
update
this
evening
on
revitalization
strategies
for
the
University
Hill
commercial
area,
as
well
as
our
recommendations
to
implement
broad
strategies
in
the
near
term,
followed
by
some
longer
term
strategies
that
we're
looking
at
specific
to
the
14th
Street
surface
parking
lot
and
I
believe
Emily
you're
going
to
be
sharing
the
slides
right.
N
Thank
you
all
right.
We
can
go
right
to
the
next
slide
into
the
agenda,
so
quick
overview
here.
I'll
start
with
some
questions
for
Council
that
were
in
the
memo
that
I'd,
like
you
to
think
about
throughout
the
presentation,
then
we'll
dive
into
a
background,
followed
by
key
considerations
that
we
used
for
analysis
and
informed
our
recommendations.
N
N
It's
also
unique
in
that
it's
very
architecturally
diverse
with
victorians
Bungalows
mid-century,
modern
Classics
found
throughout
the
district
in
the
neighborhood
at
Large,
and
then.
Lastly,
it
connects
to
really
large
populations.
So
we
have
the
CU
student
population
on
one
hand
and
then
a
large
residential
community,
and
it
connects
it,
connects
them
to
a
small
three-block,
commercial
District,
next
slide,
and
so
now
I
want
to
kind
of
narrow.
N
In
on
that
commercial
District,
the
University
Hill
General
improvement
district,
also
known
as
eugid,
it's
one
of
older's
special
taxing
districts,
Eugene
and
some
of
the
key
sites
within
the
district
that
I'll
be
referencing
on.
This
slide
can
be
seen
here
on
the
map.
On
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
slide.
N
It
was
established
in
1970
at
the
request
of
property
owners
who
wanted
to
tax
themselves
in
order
to
purchase
land
that
could
provide
customers
with
additional
public
parking
spaces
and
one
of
those
Parcels
of
land.
Is
the
14th
Street
surface
parking
lot
and
is
the
only
remaining
General
Improvement
district-owned
law
in
the
commercial
District
Eugene
recently
sold
its
other
parking
asset
in
2021,
the
Pleasant
Street
law,
to
facilitate
the
development
of
the
Hill
Hotel.
So,
ultimately,
this
significantly
reduced
the
number
of
public
parking
spaces
on
the
hill
and
reduced
operating
revenue
for
Eugene.
N
But
even
in
the
face
of
this
growth
and
development,
yugit
has
experienced
a
state
of
economic
stagnation.
For
several
decades.
Community
members
have
expressed
feelings,
concerns
of
feeling
unsafe
residents
have
described
a
limited
retail
mix
that
caters
may
be
a
little
too
heavily
to
that
student
population
and
then
connectivity
to
and
from
downtown
and
also
within
the
district
is
a
bit
of
a
challenge,
and
so,
ultimately,
our
goal
is
to
formulate
strategies
that
will
generate
really
positive
and
long-lasting
impact
for
the
district
next
slide.
N
So
Eugene
has
a
set
of
ordinances
that
are
unique
in
comparison
to
the
rest
of
the
city
and
those
key
regulations
are
displayed
here
on
this
slide.
I'll
start
with
the
one
on
the
left
so
due
to
concerns
with
alcohol
over
consumption
city
council
adopted
Boulder,
Revised,
Code,
965
B
in
October
2013.,
and
in
summary,
this
requires
that
at
least
50
percent
of
any
eating
places.
Sales
on
the
hill
must
come
from
the
sale
of
food
and
it's
important
to
know
that
there's
no
other
requirement
related
to
this
in
the
rest
of
the
city.
N
Additionally,
these
establishments
must
close
no
later
than
11
pm
unless
they
were
grandfathered
in
and
another
important
note
is
that
it's
2
am
for
the
rest
of
the
city
and
currently,
as
it
stands
today,
there
are
no
restaurants
or
bars
on
the
hill
that
are
open,
past
10
pm
unless
they've.
N
And
so,
in
summary,
with
what
I
just
mentioned,
the
hill
is
really
more
it's
more
regulated
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
city,
and
we've
heard
that
from
many
businesses,
especially
regarding
this
ordinance.
On
the
left
hand
side
here,
it's
in
fact
fairly
difficult
to
achieve,
because
the
restaurant
industry
really
does
rely
heavily
on
the
sale
of
alcohol
as
their
primary
source
of
Revenue.
N
Safety
has
been
an
ongoing
challenge
within
eugid
and
the
broader
Hill
Neighborhood,
primarily
stemming
from
that
crowd
and
party
behavior,
and
so
the
hill
reinvestment
working
group,
which
was
formed
in
late
2015
to
pursue
a
hill
reinvestment
strategy,
has
placed
a
lot
of
attention
on
the
issue
of
safety
on
a
more
broad
level,
but
we're
still
seeing
that
the
commercial
district
is
struggling
with
several
challenges
related
to
safety
and
crime.
N
Local
business
owners
have
expressed
their
frustration
around
certain
behaviors
occurring
in
front
of
their
storefronts
and
elsewhere
in
the
commercial
District.
This
includes
panhandling
loitering,
public
drug
use,
Etc.
N
N
Another
strategy
raised
relates
to
establishing
a
Downtown
Development
Authority,
which
could
help
fund
General
improvements
and
additional
programs,
and
for
those
who
are
unaware.
A
Downtown
Development
Authority
is
a
strategy
used
to
revitalize
commercial
districts,
and
it
can
provide
for
a
variety
of
funding
options,
including
millage
and
tax
increment
financing.
Ultimately,
for
public
improvements
in
commercial
districts.
N
N
And
there
are
many
trade-offs
to
be
considered
related
to
the
reinvestment
of
the
Pleasant
Street
Lot
Sale
proceeds
so
right
now
those
proceeds
are
sitting
in
savings.
Earning
interest
but
delayed
reinvestment
of
those
funds
only
prolongs
limited
access
due
to
the
decrease
in
parking
spaces
and
the
Redevelopment
of
14th
Street
Lot,
which
could
ultimately
result
in
additional
property
tax,
retail
lease
or
parking
Revenue.
N
And
then
we're
also
seeing
business
retention
challenges
on
the
hill.
The
commercial
District
caters
fairly
heavily
to
that
student
population
and
has
struggled
for
decades
to
attract
a
diverse
mixed
abuses
as
it
stands.
Today
there
is
a
14
commercial
vacancy
rate
and
the
business
mix
is
depicted
here
on
the
right
hand
side
of
this
slide.
N
So,
as
you
can
see,
there
are
several
restaurants,
but
also
personal
care
services.
Convenience
stores,
retails
such
as
smoke
and
skate
shops,
so
again,
kind
of
catering
to
that
student
population
and
some
points
of
comparison
that
I'd
like
to
call
out.
Although
staff
is
working
on
on
getting
more
updated
data,
so
it's
not
necessarily
precise
in
comparison
but
still
paints
a
picture
of
where
the
hill
stands
related
to
other
areas,
so
the
retail
vacancy
rate
for
the
entire
city
of
Boulder.
N
So
again,
in
comparison
to
other
statistics
for
the
city
and
Nationwide,
the
hill
has
a
much
higher
commercial
vacancy
rate
and,
lastly,
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
closures
over
in
the
hill
over
the
past
year,
and
these
include
a
lot
of
well-known
businesses.
Rosenberg's
albums
on
the
hill,
Sherry's
soda
shop,
boss,
lady
pizza
and
more
next
slide.
N
N
But
the
purpose
in
2011
was
to
assess
revitalization
strategies
at
the
time
for
the
district
and
recommendations
from
that
convening
fell
into
various
categories,
such
as
governance
and
programming.
But
again
this
was
over
a
decade
ago.
Many
changes
have
occurred
since
then
on
the
hill,
so
it's
a
bit
outdated,
but
certainly
useful
to
build
upon
the
2017
Central
Broadway
Corridor
design
framework.
This
is
a
guiding
document
recommending
Urban
Design
improvements
along
Broadway,
including
how
to
better
connect
the
hill
to
downtown.
N
N
I
do
just
want
to
take
a
moment
here
to
give
a
brief
overview
of
what
the
Urban
Land
Institute
technical
advisory
panel
program
is
Uli
tap
for
short,
since
it
was
a
really
important
part
of
our
recent
efforts
and
again
with
findings
and
recommendations
from
that
convening
shared
later
in
the
presentation.
N
Okay
next
slide,
so
I
want
to
take
some
time
to
kind
of
tie
it
all
together.
It's
important
to
understand
why
we're
here
now.
Why
are
we
tackling
this
work
now,
based
on
community
and
stakeholder
feedback
to
City
staff?
We
understood
that
many
of
the
previous
studies
are
either
outdated,
or
maybe
they
took
a
little
too
narrow
of
an
approach
on
specific
elements
of
the
district,
so
revisiting
broad
strategies
deemed
appropriate,
which
was
really
the
Catalyst
for
us,
engaging
with
the
Urban
Land
Institute
technical
advisory
panel
program.
N
So,
let's
address
these
challenges
and
make
the
hill
more
welcoming,
as
we
start
to
see
this
influx
of
visitors,
and
on
that
note,
we
see
an
opportunity
to
invest
in
strategies
that
complement
the
new
developments
that
are
underway
rather
than
waiting
to
see
how
they'll
impact
the
district.
Let's
leverage
them
as
an
opportunity
to
be
proactive
and
Implement
strategies
that
will
be
complementary
to
these
new
developments.
N
And
ultimately,
it's
time
to
act
and
it's
time
to
respond
to
this
increasing
Community
desire
to
see
positive
change
in
the
neighborhood.
That
is
very
special
to
a
lot
of
people.
It
has
such
a
rich
history.
It's
a
really
important
part
of
Boulder's
character.
So
let's
build
off
those
positive
attributes
and
help
it
become
that
thriving
place
that
our
community
desires.
K
Well,
thank
you
Regan,
and
so
we
thought
this
would
be
a
good
time.
That's
a
lot
of
information.
We
thought
this
would
be
good
time
to
see
if
anybody
has
any
questions
about
what
you've
heard
so
far
around
the
history.
Around
the
past
planning
around
the
economics,
we
do
still
have
coming
up
a
discussion
around
connectivity
and
Transportation
around
activation
around
the
14th
Street
parking
lot,
which
Regan
has
alluded
to
we're
going
to
drill
into
that
a
little
deeper.
K
H
Thanks
Bob
Regan
you're
off
to
a
hot
start.
You
knock
knock
that
out
out
of
the
park.
My
question
is
Senator
a
little
around
history
and
so
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
folks
in
CV
or
maybe
Cheryl
knows
the
answer
or
or
it
dates
back
even
further.
H
But
my
question
is
really
around
the
that
you
get
I'm,
saying
that
right,
the
improvement
district
and
it's
actual
boundaries
and
why
it
perhaps
didn't
expand
South
to
what
now
is
the
hotel,
but
there
were
over
half
a
dozen
businesses
present
for
for
over
20
some
years
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
why
you
didn't
envelop
that
space
and
then
maybe
going
forward.
H
What
would
be
the
process
if
it
was
the
will
to
expand
it
to
maybe
to
include
the
hill
and
some
of
those
businesses
in
between
so
I
I'm,
just
sort
of
wondering
why
it
stopped
where
it
did
and
why
and
whether
or
not
we
could
expand
if
we
felt
that
it
was
in
the
broader
economic
interests
to
do
so.
N
N
M
Absolutely
well
and
I
mean
it
might
help
to
go
back
to
that
map.
Those
properties
are
actually
in
the
general
improvement
district,
so
the
map
is
a
little
deceiving.
The
only
parcel,
that's
not
the
only
commercial
parcel.
That's
not
in
eugid
is
the
gas
station,
given
their
the
that
use.
They've,
never
expressed
an
interest
to
to
join
the
district,
but
all
of
the
parcels
within
the
that
were
formerly
all
those
commercial
spaces,
have
now
becoming
the
Hill
Hotel.
Those
are
in
the
district
and
I
always
have.
H
K
E
That
was
a
very
brave
and
very
good
performance.
Thank
you.
So
much
I
do
have
a
couple
of
questions,
because
the
the
memo
on
this
subject
was
a
little
confusing.
To
me.
We're
told
that
there
are
grandfather
blicker
licenses
in
the
district
that
still
permit
2
A.M
operation,
but
then
later
we're
told
that
there
are
no
establishments
operating
after
10
o'clock.
N
E
M
There
are
very
few
businesses
left
on
the
hill
that
are
grandfathered
into
the
previous
liquor
rules,
the
sink
being
a
very
prime
example
of
one
and
I
think
the
the
business
model
and
staying
late,
given
a
number
of
challenges
that
have
been
experienced
not
just
on
the
hill
but
but
everywhere
from
Staffing
challenges
to
to
changing
culture,
the
sink,
staying
open
beyond
10
pm,
it
seems
it
did
not
prove
to
be
a
good
business
model
if
they're,
not
if
the
district
itself
is
not
attracting
enough
folks
to
to
stay
busy
and
also
keep
employees
in
that
space
beyond
10
pm
and
so
they've
adjusted
their
business
model.
M
Not
just
not,
you
know
not
necessarily
in
response
to
these
regulations,
but
lacking
an
overall
energy
and
people
in
the
space
beyond
10
pm,
they've
elected
to
to
cut
back.
It
doesn't
mean
that
they
can't
expand
again
but
lacking
that
kind
of
group
energy
of
of
multiple
places,
creating
that
space
I'm,
not
sure
that
that
would
happen.
Thank.
E
You
in
discussing
the
the
2015
code
changes
that
all
Hill
housing
must
be
permanently
affordable.
Can
you
define
what
the
concept
of
affordability
means?
Is
it
a
percentage
of
Ami
that
is
required
in
all
housing
units,
and
second,
point
of
the
question
is
how
many
housing
units
have
actually
been
produced
with
those
restrictions.
M
Yeah
I'm
wondering
if
we
have
anybody
on
the
call
from
housing
that
might
be
able
to
speak
to
that,
but
if,
if
not
I
know
that
the
that
we
do
Define,
affordable
housing,
pretty
clearly
through
housing
and
Human
Services
and
it
would
be
tied
to
inclusionary
housing
requirements,
there
have
been
zero
housing
developments
on
the
hill
since
that
regulation
was
put
into
place
so
zero
affordable
units
have
been
constructed
as
a
result
or
after
that
regulation
in
place.
Somebody.
E
Could
simply
email
us?
You
know
what
the
the
actual
requirements
are
per
that
the
2015
change
in
terms
of
what
constitutes
affordable
housing.
I'd
appreciate
that
yeah.
E
And
just
a
couple
more
questions
in
the
memo.
Well,
when
we
have
previously
discussed
this
this
issue
we
were,
we
were
told
that
the
Hill
Hotel
would
have
a
revitalizing
effect
on
the
neighborhood
as
we're
looking
at
new
strategies.
Have
we
changed
our
perspective?
Are
we?
Are
we
now
thinking
that
that
know
that
the
hill
was
not
going
to
the
hill?
Hotel
is
not
going
to
have
that
impact
that
it
requires
a
an
intervention
on
our
part.
N
Giving,
rather
than
waiting
for
these
new
developments
to
open,
let's
be
proactive
and
Implement
some
of
these
revitalization
efforts.
Now
you
know
we're
already
seeing
gaps.
We
see
the
challenges.
So
let's
take
action
now,
rather
than
waiting
to
see
how
the
Hill
Hotel
will
have
that
impact
on
the
district.
E
Fair
enough
last
question:
the
the
memo
discusses
the
possibility
of
a
a
rebranding
effort
for
the
hill.
Are
we
looking
at
that
as
a
generator
of
better
uses,
because
it's
unclear
to
me
that
someone's
going
to
make
a
major
investment
decision
simply
based
on
a
rebranding
campaign?
Can
you
speak
to
that.
N
Well,
in
a
little
bit,
yes,
so
the
language
has
since
changed.
Since
we
submitted
the
memo
after
feedback
from
from
ucmc
rather
than
rebranding
the
hill.
The
hill
already
has
a
brand
and
we
just
want
to
identify
it's
it's
gone
through
so
much
Evolution.
There
are
upcoming
changes,
let's
identify
what
that
District
identity
is
and
leverage
it
and
build
on
it
and
promote
it
to
the
rest
of
the
city.
So
it's
more
of
identifying
and
enhancing
the
existing
brand
rather
than
rebranding
the
hill.
M
Yes,
thanks
for
the
question,
we
do
have
regular
conversations
with
our
partners
at
CU
and
they
are
following
our
lead
in
this.
They
are
interested
in
the
success
of
the
commercial
District.
They
haven't
necessarily
made
a
specific
statement,
a
blessing
one
way
or
the
other
is
they
want
to
leave,
leave
it
to
the
city
to
decide
what
what
the
future
of
the
district
is,
but
certainly
have
not
expressed
any
reservations
about
possible
changes
to
those
regulatory
components.
M
We
have
not
had
specific
conversations
with
the
folks
building
the
Hill
Hotel
specific
to
the
the
regulations,
but
we
also
know
that
they
are
very
interested
in
making
sure
that
their
properties
and
their
retail
spaces
in
that
building
can
be
as
successful
as
possible,
and
what
we've
learned
from
the
businesses
that
are
already
on
the
hill
is
that
the
regulatory
environment
does
has
tended
to
lead
new
businesses
to
look
elsewhere
first,
before
taking
a
risk
to
open
up
a
business
on
the
hill.
J
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
I
was
wondering
about
the
sort
of
financial
strategies
and
are
there
currently
residential
units
within
the
commercial
district
and
do
those
pay
to
the
do
those
pay
into
sort
of
the
existing
fees.
M
So,
yes,
there
are
a
number
of
residential
units
within
the
district,
but
given
the
low
amount
of
the
mill
Levy
that
is
applied
to
you
know
four
commercial
properties,
although
there
is
a
levy
on
residential
uses
as
well,
it's
even
less
so
there
is
some
revenue
generated
from
the
residential
spaces,
but
it
is
by
law,
a
very
small
component
of
our
overall
property
tax
revenue
for
the
district.
J
It
just
strikes
me
that
not
only
do
the
businesses
write
their
profit
from
potentially
having
a
stronger
Urban
character,
identify
ability,
but
also
you
know,
the
residential
area,
especially
immediately
surrounding
and
so
I
was
also
wondering
if
there
is,
if
we've
put
any
thought
into
expanding
the
district
to
the
residential
area
further
or
if
they're,
what
restrictions
there
would
be
on
that.
M
So
thanks
for
the
question
and
idea,
the
governance
around
General,
Improvement
districts
are
are
pretty
specific.
Under
State
Statute,
the
current
District,
as
it
exists,
is,
was
created
to
assume
all
the
parking
liability
for
the
commercial
properties
so
that
the
land
use
is
in
the
Hill
district
didn't
get
coupled
with
a
parking
requirement.
When
you
hear
about
parking
code
and
parking
minimums
and
parking
maximums
in
our
general
Improvement
districts,
we
do
not
have
a
parking
minimum
for
any
of
those
Parcels.
M
So
using
a
GID
approach
for
the
residential
area,
not
that
we
can't
explore
funding
mechanisms
I'm,
not
sure
that
the
just
an
expansion
of
the
existing
GID
would
be
necessarily
at
the
path
that
would
warrant
exploration
versus
other
other
possible
tracks.
That
could
help
set
the
area
for
success.
J
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
it
does
seem
like
a
number
of
the
residential
areas.
Also,
you
know
I,
think
of
apartment
buildings
that
have
parking
lots
or
no
parking
lots.
You
know
that
wouldn't
meet
our
current
requirements
around
parking
in
that
area
and
it
seems
like
the
parking
strategy-
is
probably
Beyond,
just
the
downtown
or
between
just
the
retail
businesses.
M
You
for
that
well,
and,
and
so
there
might,
there
could
certainly
be
a
conversation
about
an
adjacent
District,
but
because
of
the
the
difference
between
taxing
levels
for
residential
versus
commercial
based
on
state
law.
We
wouldn't
necessarily
want
to
have
just
one
big
district
and
then,
of
course,
there's
a
lot
of
trade-offs
associated
with
the
governance
of
of
our
general
Improvement
districts,
as
it
is
getting
folks
to
volunteer
to
be
on
commission,
for
example,
so
glad
to
have
Tel
Jones
by
the
way.
But
thanks
for
the
questions.
K
That's
the
other
hands.
I
did
have
a
question
Chris,
it's
kind
of
follow
up
on
the
discussion
you
just
had
with
Lauren
the
is
it
possible
for
I
realize
it
requires
a
vote
of
of
the
the
property
owners,
but
is
it
possible
for
the
downtown
business
proven
District
is
illegally
possible
for
the
downtown
prison
District
to
Encompass
the
the
Hill
district?
If
that's
the
will
of
the
property
owners,
could
you
connect
the
two.
M
That's
a
really
great
question,
and
it
is
something
it's
a
concept
that
has
brought
up
in
the
past,
not
necessarily
expansion
of
the
downtown
bid,
but
there
is
no
limitation
to
the
number
of
bids
that
can
exist
in
the
community,
so
the
hill
could
elect
to
start
their
own
business
improvement
district.
M
That
has
been
a
topic.
That's
broached
in
the
past
and
Cheryl
might
be
willing
to
speak
to
that.
Actually,
but
the
climate,
the
business
climate
on
the
hill,
has
not
been
conducive
to
additional
tax,
taxing
layers,
but
if
we
did
come
to
a
space
where
maybe
we
traded
a
general
improvement
district
for
a
business
improvement
district,
it's
not
necessarily
an
extension
of
the
downtown
district,
but
its
own
bid.
They
could
still
contract
with
the
downtown
Boulder
partnership,
which
is
a
separate
501c3.
M
You
know
organization,
so
that
the,
if
that
seemed
right
for
the
downtown
bid
to
support
the
downtown
Boulder
partnership
in
Contracting
through
the
the
hill
bid
providing
the
same
level
of
service.
That's
certainly
something
that's
been
discussed
in
a
path
that
we
could
see
a
lot
of
possibility
in.
K
Thanks
Chris,
that's
awful
I've,
seen
no
more
hands
for
you
and
when
we
move
on
to
to
chapter
two,
all.
N
Right,
absolutely,
you
can
go
right
to
the
next
slide,
so
now
I'll
dive
into
some
key
considerations
that
will
inform
the
recommendations
I'll
present
be
presenting.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
we've
identified
several
key
considerations
that
will
help
guide
our
work
in
decision
making
around
implementing
specific
projects
and
initiatives
on
the
hill,
the
first
being
long-term
fund
health
for
Eugene,
ensuring
that
any
strategy
that
we
develop
really
contributes
to
the
long-term
viability
of
the
district
parking
and
access.
N
Connectivity
getting
to
the
hill,
whether
through
providing
better
connection
along
13th,
Street
or
another
mode,
is
another
key
consideration,
and
then
lastly,
economic
vitality
and
resilience.
It's
important
that
any
revitalization
strategy
contribute
to
long-term
positive
economic
growth
and
resilience
of
the
district
next
slide.
N
Our
recommendations
were
derived
from
our
most
recent
convening
with
the
Urban
Land
Institute
technical
advisory
panel,
and
they
take
the
form
of
two
approaches.
So
one
approach
that
I'll
be
focusing
on
are
these
broader
revitalization
efforts
that
staff
recommends
implementing
in
the
near
term
and
the
other
approach
Narrows
in
on
longer
term
14th
Street
law
Redevelopment
strategies?
N
District
identity,
let's
understand,
establish
and
promote
the
Hill's
identity
to
the
city
at
large
staff
recommends
taking
time
to
engage
with
the
community
to
better
understand
what
the
Hill's
identity
is
again.
Given
the
evolution
of
the
districts
of
the
district
and
the
upcoming
changes
that
are
coming
online,
that
may
impact
it
once
identified.
Let's
leverage
those
characteristics
and
promote
it
to
the
rest
of
the
city
in
a
way
that'll
make
it
more
identifiable
and
attractive
to
visitors
and
then
beyond,
enhancing
the
identity.
N
N
This
map
here
was
created
by
the
panelists
from
the
Uli
tap
to
really
help
us
visualize
how
the
hill
can
be
better
connected
to
the
rest
of
the
city,
including
downtown,
so,
as
you
can
see,
they
suggest
improved
entrances
along
13th
and
Broadway
with
that
direct
identifiable
connection
from
Pearl
Street,
all
the
way
to
Chautauqua
and
I'm
going
to
take
this
as
another
pausing
point
to
see.
If
Council
has
any
questions.
K
Thanks
Regan,
so
we
tell
you
because
there's
probably
some
questions
about
connectivity
and
transportation.
We
thought
we
might
take
a
pause
here
and
Natalie
Stiffler
is
on
as
well.
So
if
you've
got
questions
relating
to
Transportation
or
some
of
our
transportation
planning
on
connectivity,
this
would
be
a
really
great
time
to
ask
them.
K
B
Yeah
I
think
Fitness
is
being
extremely
informative
and
well
organized
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
here
so
just
in
terms
of
connectivity
there's
actually
a
little
outside
the
hill
itself.
But
we've
been
talking
about
the
very
great
need
for
better
bike:
ped
connectivity
from
the
hill
down
to
downtown
right
with
so
this
orange
line
that
threads
up
to
the
north.
O
Chris,
do
you
want
me
to
take
that
one
okay
good
evening,
Council
yeah,
no
problem,
I'm,
Natalie
Stiffler,
director
of
Transportation
Mobility,
thanks
for
the
question
Aaron
yeah,
so
we've
talked
to
a
lot
about
this
kind
of
connection
and
how
we
can
look
at
it
and
I'll.
Also
note
Kathleen
King
is
here
from
Planning
Development
Services
tonight
as
well.
O
Brad
wasn't
able
to
be
here
with
us
tonight
so
feel
free
Kathleen
to
jump
in
in
here
too,
but
you
know
Brad
and
Chris
and
Ali
and
I
and-
and
our
teams
have
thought
a
lot
about
just
how
we
can
incorporate
looking
at
this
connection
in
all
the
upcoming
work
efforts
that
we
have
coming
up
and
one
of
the
places
that
this
is
really
gonna,
I
think
kind
of
start
to
lift
up
is
in
the
Civic
area,
work
that
we
are
getting
underway
with
a
consultant
here
soon,
and
the
thinking
is
that
we'll
do
somewhat
basically
like
a
multimodal
analysis
and
place
making
study,
because
it's
more
than
just
like.
O
Oh,
we
just
need
a
bike
connection
or
a
pedestrian
connection.
It
really
needs
to
be
kind
of
a
broader
conversation
about
Place
making.
We
heard
that
through
the
tap
kind
of
conversation
and
and
certainly
as
we
think,
about
the
Civic
area
and
that
connection
from
the
hill
to
downtown
what
do
we
want
to
kind
of
cultivate
from
a
place
making
standpoint?
O
So
that's
kind
of
our
thinking
from
a
work
planning
effort
at
this
point
that
it
will
be
a
part
of
that
work
which
will
be
kicking
off
later
this
year
and
then
going
through
next
year,
so
transportation
and
planning
and
and
parks
and
Community
Vitality
will
all
be
a
part
of
that
effort.
Kathleen
did
you
want
to
elaborate
on
any
of
that.
P
P
The
other
thing
that
we're
talking
about
Beyond,
just
sort
of
the
physical
components
of
connectivity
and
the
mobility
aspects
are
the
land
use
and
zoning
and
and
some
of
the
the
technical
limitations
of
uses
and
Redevelopment
along
these
corridors,
and
so
we'll
be
taking
a
look
at
that
in
our
work
plan
next
year
as
well.
B
O
O
O
We
do
realize
that
there
will
be
kind
of
a
more
like
near-term,
immediate
action
items
that
we'll
we'll
want
to
implement
on
like
the
more
nearer
term
timeline
and
then
there's
going
to
be
more
like
Randy
or
grander
ideas
right
around
I'm,
not
going
to
say
the
word,
but
just
Grandeur
ideas
that
will
take
more
time
and
we'll
want
to
be
able
to
explore
those
ideas
during
this
process,
but
recognize
that
we
also
need
more
Immediate
Solutions.
So
we're
thinking
about
both.
K
Great
thanks,
Aaron
Lauren,
then
Tara.
J
Thank
you,
I
was
hoping
you
could
maybe
provide
a
little
bit
more
clarity
around
what
you're
thinking,
what
improved
entrance
means
and
sort
of
what
kinds
of
modes
of
trans
or
like
who's
being
targeted
with
that
effort.
N
So
I
can
take
a
stab
at
the
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
this
map,
you
know
really
just
speaks
to
an
array
of
possibilities
when
it
comes
to
improved
entrances.
So
one
of
our
recommendations
that
I'll
be
present
presenting
in
terms
of
next
steps,
is
bringing
on
a
planning
and
design
consultant
who
can
really
help
us
strategize
these
actionable
projects
in
the
near
term
Chris
or
Natalie
or
Kathleen
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
add
to
that.
M
That's
you
answered
it
very
well,
Regan.
We
really.
We
have
not
contemplated
that
work
yet
because,
prior
to
this
conversation,
our
Focus
had
been
solely
on
the
14th
Street
lot.
We
are
just
responding
to
the
work
at
the
tap
and
envisioning
different
next
steps
that
would
explore
what
does
the?
How
do
we
answer
that
question?
What
is
an
improved
entrance
and
what
and
how
much
would
it
cost
and
how?
Where
does
that
fit
in
our
priority
list
of
what's
possible.
P
I
can
just
mention
as
well
that
some
of
the
past
plans
that
1996
plan
the
Broadway
Corridor
plan
have
all
sort
of
hinted
at
this
need
for
some
type
of
gateway
to
let
you
know
that
you're
there
that
you've
arrived
at
the
hill,
so
that's
been
a
consistent
recommendation
in
past
plans
as
well.
K
I
N
Thank
you
for
the
question
there.
So
there
have
been
a
lot
of
internal
discussions
about
how.
How
can
we
improve
the
13th,
Street
Corridor
and
just
make
you
know
downtown
easier
to
get
to
from
the
hill
and
the
hill
easier
to
get
to
from
downtown
and
I
know.
There
have
been
a
lot
of
conversations
around
exploring
potential
ideas,
one
of
them
being
a
potential
cultural
Corridor
study
yeah.
There
have
been
discussions
internally,
Chris
I,
don't
know.
If
you
want
to
ask
that.
M
Well,
I
would
just
go
back
to
to
what
we
heard
from
Natalie
and
Kathleen
about
these.
These
planning
efforts
that
are
already
underway
where
we
act.
We
do
want
to
be
answering
those
questions
where
our
Uli
tap
identified
this
great
potential
along
that
Corridor,
because
it
connects
to
so
many
great
assets.
Cultural
assets
places
that
people
love
to
visit,
and
so
our
next
step
is
to
pursue
this
planning
effort
that
will
identify
what's
the
low-hanging
fruit.
K
Really
no
other
questions.
I
do
have
a
question.
It
kind
of
follows
on
on
on
that
risk,
and
probably
for
Natalie
Natalie
I,
like
the
fact
that
you
you're
looking
at
this
as
kind
of
two
parts
to
kind
of
a
short-term
approach
and
then
a
longer
term
approach.
Can
you
give
us
some
general
ideas
on
on
timing
on
this
I
know?
K
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
work
being
done
on
the
Central,
Park
and
East
bookend
area
and
I
know
that
that
all
ties
together
there
may
be
a
little
bit
of
a
sense
of
urgency
around
the
hotels
which
will
be
opening
up
here
in
a
couple
years.
Can
you
kind
of
maybe
scope
that
for
us?
What
what's
your
definition
of
short
term
is.
O
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
that
is
the
piece
where
and
and
Kathleen's
probably
closer
to
the
timeline
of
the
work.
But
we've
talked
about
with
Ally
and
Brad
and
Chris
kind
of
extensively
that
we
were.
We
really
will
want
to
be
able
to
make
improvements,
especially
you
know,
to
the
Arboretum
right
as
the
hotel
opens
up.
We
recognize
that
that's
one
of
those
just
more
urgent
items
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
make
improvements
to
that
area
to
facilitate
a
more
enjoyable
connection
from
the
new
hotels
to
the
downtown.
O
So
that's
kind
of
when
I
think
about
the
more
immediate
actions.
It's
centered
around
that
and
then
the
more
longer
term
is
that
kind
of
I.
Imagine
the
more
place,
making
type
work
that
Kathleen
was
referencing
related
to
kind
of
the
land
use
piece
of
it
and
then
also
you
know
long
term.
If,
if
13th
Street
becomes
like
a
culture,
cultural
Corridor,
that
you
know,
we've
seen
examples
from
kind
of
across
the
U.S,
where
we
could
kind
of
do
something
similar.
That
really
creates
this
like
experience
along
13th
street
from
the
hill
to
downtown.
O
That
would
obviously
be
a
much
a
longer
term
Vision
that
we
would
work
towards.
So
is
that
hopeful.
K
It
is,
could
someone
remind
us
what
the
current
estimated
time
of
opening
for
each
of
the
two
hotels
is.
M
I
was
gonna,
see
if
Regan
chimed
in
the
so
the
hill
hotel
is
due
to
open
early
next
year,
so
2024
I
believe
and
then
the
conference
center,
and
please
somebody
correct
me
if
I
misspeak
is
due
later
in
2025.
K
A
N
Wonderful,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
then,
lastly,
under
these
broad
revitalization
efforts,
let's
activate
the
district,
we're
partnering
with
the
hill
Boulder
Merchants
Association
on
some
upcoming
events.
But
let's
expand
on
that
to
plan
other
activations
leveraging
and
building
on
the
Hill's,
creativity
and
energy
to
potentially
Revitalize
positive
nightlife
and
other
events,
maybe
even
pulling
from
that
Alleyway
enhancement
plan
that
was
conducted
in
2018
to
bring
some
of
our
Alleyways
to
like
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide.
N
And
then,
if
we
maintain
oversight,
there
were
three
recommendations
that
the
top
outlined
one
on
the
very
left
hand
side
here,
is
this
maximum
parking
garage
option
which
suggests
a
three-level
parking
garage,
providing
approximately
150
additional
parking
spaces
for
the
district.
The
other
in
the
middle
is
parking
with
retail.
This
really
presents
an
opportunity
for
a
larger
retail
tenant,
such
as
a
grocery
store,
which
we've
heard
is
needed
on
the
hill,
suggesting
approximately
thirteen
thousand
square
feet
per
floor,
of
a
three
level
structure
for
retail
and
then.
N
Lastly,
on
the
right
hand,
side
this
suggests
a
parking
garage
with
retail
and
faculty
housing.
So
this
could
be
a
great
opportunity
to
partner
with
CU,
while
addressing
some
of
the
retail
and
parking
challenges
that
we've
seen
on
the
hill
and
I
think
this
is
our
last
pausing
point
Bob
occurred
to
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I'm
going
to
pause
for
questions
and
yeah.
K
We
thought
that
we
might,
because
this
is
kind
of
a
pretty
dramatic
proposal.
We
thought
we
might
pause
here,
one
last
time
before
we
we
take
it
home
and
hear
from
you,
can't
see
and
ask
questions
of
council.
Are
there
any
kind
of
questions
that
we
haven't
covered
up
to
this
point
in
time,
including
specifically,
relating
to
the
14th
Street
alternatives?
K
I
So
I
take
it.
The
four
The
Faculty
housing
would
be
a
hundred
percent
affordable
or
am
I
misunderstanding
that.
M
We
haven't,
we
haven't
necessarily
developed
the
exact
funding
or
pricing
strategy,
for
it
would
be
a
partnership
with
the
CU
so
how
they
would
determine
affordable
housing
for
the
type
of
Faculty
that
would
want
to
live
in
the
hill
space.
I
presume
that
that
we
would
probably
qualify
it
as
affordable,
but
we
would
leave
that
to
our
partnership
with
CU
to
determine
pricing.
E
Is
it
possible
in
any
way
to
quantify
the
nature
of
the
shortage
of
parking
on
the
hill?
I
mean
nobody
likes
parking,
but
if
we're
going
to
try
to
attract
new
businesses
on
the
hill
and
people
cannot
get
there,
I
mean
there
will
be
people
who
bike
there
and
and
to
walk
there.
But
there
are
people
who
are
going
to
want
to
drive
there
and
if
they
can't
get
there
to
what
extent
are
we
going
to
damage
the
economic
viability
of
this
rebranded
district
with
better
uses.
M
I'll
go
ahead
and
take
that
question.
Thank
you,
for
it
I
think
it's
really
important
to
note
that
CU
is
building
a
490
space
parking
garage
as
part
of
the
conference
center
development,
and
so,
if
we're
able
to
get
this
right,
that
facility
will
only
be
about
four
blocks
from
the
heart
of
the
University
Hill
area.
M
So,
if
you
think
about
downtown,
where
we've
been
so
successful
of
building
parking
assets
around
the
heart
of
our
downtown,
where
people
have
gotten
really
used
to
parking
in
one
place
and
then
using
their
feet,
bikes
or
you
know
other
modes
of
transportation
to
get
to
the
destination.
M
If
we're
able
to
get
our
partnership
with
CU
dialed
into
a
place
where
employees
who
are
looking
for
access
to
their
jobs,
they
might
not
be
able
to
they
don't
live
in
town,
they
Transit
might
not
be
a
viable
option
for
them,
but
they
still
need
a
place
to
store
their
vehicle.
It's
our
hope
that
the
partnership
with
CU
and
the
use
of
that
facility
could
translate
into
a
different
future
for
the
access
challenges
that
we're
currently
experiencing
in
the
district,
because
we
don't
have
that
type
of
facility.
Yet
has.
M
Do
have
a
formalized
Grandview
agreement
that
that
does
touch
on
the
availability
of
public
parking
at
their
Conference
Center
Garage.
There
is
probably
more
work
that
could
be
done
to
formalize
it
specifically
for
the
University
of
commercial
area
uses.
M
Yes
and
I
think
that
is
exactly
why
our
staff
recommendation
is
to
take
a
broader
approach
to
the
district's
future
and
our
design
and
planning
it's
not
just
about
building
infrastructure
in
the
park
in
the
right-of-way
and
painting
murals.
M
It's
about
formalizing,
these
relationships
with
folks
like
CU,
so
that,
if
we're
able
to
to
create
a
different
narrative
for
the
folks
who
are
trying
to
access
the
space
now
and
the
folks
who
are
going
to
be
accessing
this
space
in
the
future,
if
parking
doesn't
have
to
be
something,
that's
driving
our
decision
for
14th
Street,
because
even
if
we
were
to
build
150
parking
spaces
in
that
space,
you
know
on
that
lot
tomorrow.
M
That
would
probably
not
get
us
to
a
place
where
we've
resolved
access
related
issues
on
the
hill,
and
so
we
do-
or
we
are
in
a
time
where
perhaps
we
can
work
with
our
partners
and
shift
The
Narrative.
That
then
can
can
lead
us
to
a
space
where
we
don't
have
to
build
any
parking
at
this
particular
location,
because
we've
managed
to
to
resolve
those
challenges
in
another
way.
E
You
know
because
if
the
conference
center
is
sufficiently
successful,
there
are
going
to
be
a
lot
of
nights
where
we
may
not
be
able
to
access
it
at
all
or
only
to
a
minimal
extent.
I
have
no
idea
what
cu's
perspective
on
this
is
going
to
be,
but
if
we're
going
to
rely
upon
their
parking
to
be
our
parking,
it
would
seem
to
me
before
we
move
too
far
ahead.
We
ought
to
know
if
their
parking
is
going
to
be
our
parking.
H
Bob
I
have
a
I,
just
don't
like
building
more
parking,
so
that's
I
would
sort
of
get
rid
of
that
one
phase,
but
we'll
get
there
but
I
like
that.
Working
on
the
partnership.
H
My
question
centers
are
on
activation
and
and
sort
of
having
been
a
part
of
recent
activations
that
took
six
to
nine
months
and
they're
a
bit
light
with
the
Civic
area
in
West
Pearl
and
13th
I
I'm
a
little
I'm
a
little
concerned
because
it
you
know
downtown
Boulder,
took,
took
a
lot
of
lead
on
trying
to
facilitate
that
and
I'm
I'm,
just
worried
about
capacity
and
being
able
to
have
enough
lead
time
from
when
the
Hill
Hotel
arrives
is
open,
starts
bringing
people
in
that.
H
We
can
really
truly
activate
that
space
in
a
way
that
that
meets
the
moment
and
so
I
I
I'm
I'm
sort
of
curious
about.
Are
there
some
resources
we
need
to
front
load
to
to
get
going?
H
Is
there
some
staffing
I'm
just
sort
of
wondering
what
we
need
to
do
in
order
to
really
move
that
forward,
so
that
we
have
the
planning
done
and
then
plenty
of
time
to
implement,
because
I
think
that's
where
we
got
squeezed
for
some
of
the
downtown
stuff
was
just
not
enough
time
to
implement
and
we
didn't
quite
have
a
partner,
not
their
fault,
but
just
didn't.
Have
the
capacity
to
take
all
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
do
on.
N
Thanks
for
that
question,
I
would
say
you
know.
Luckily,
in
in
the
meantime,
we
have
a
really
great
partner
on
the
hill,
the
hill
Boulder
Merchants
Association.
That's
been
planning
and
executing
some
events
on
the
hill
and
we
were
planning
to
continue
to
work
with
them.
In
2024
we
have
some
funding
dedicated
from
arpa
money
for
commercial
area
activations
on
the
hill
and
we're
planning
on
working
closely
with
the
hillboulder
on
that
in
the
longer
term,
I
I
think
you
know
that's.
H
We
can't
hear
you
I'm,
sorry,
I
was
read
it
I
know,
I
appreciate
that
response,
but
I'm.
My
concern
is
some
of
those
funding.
Strategies
are
going
to
require
time
to
actually
fill
those
coffers
and
that's
to
some
extent
time.
We
don't
have
for
long
term
100
agree,
but
for
what's
needed
in
that.
Next,
nine
to
18
months,
I,
I,
think
the
city
and
the
university
are
gonna,
have
to
pump
that
resource
in
rapidly
and
so
I.
H
Just
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
knock
it
out
of
the
park
and
and
I'm
until
maybe
I
see
more
I,
I'm,
I'm
sort
of
reserving
whether
or
not
I
have
confidence
we're
going
to
get
there.
I
just
want
to
know
that
we
have
a
really
solid
plan
in
the
people
involved
to
do
that,
because
I
know
how
hard
it
is
to
set
these
things
up.
So
I
really
hope
that
we
can
put
the
resources
in
place
to
get
this
done
right.
K
I
agree
Tara
and
then
back
tomorrow.
I
N
Thanks
for
that
question
so,
and
I'm
going
to
get
to
this
on
the
next
slide,
summarizing
our
recommendations
and
our
next
steps.
We
see,
we
see
redeveloping
the
14th
Street
law
as
a
longer
term
strategy,
ideally
over
the
next
three
to
five
years.
Okay,
so
we
do
want
to
see
what
the
impact
from
the
new
developments
will
be
and
it'll
give
us
time
to
kind
of
create
this
broader
strategy.
That'll
help
inform
the
Redevelopment
of
the
14th
Street
lot.
At
this
point,
we're
really
just
outlining
the
array
of
possibilities.
Okay,.
I
So
when
you
were,
when
you
you
have
grocery
here,
did
you
do
research
that,
or
did
somebody
did
the
Consultants
that
there's
a
grocery
needed
because
I'm
thinking
about
the
whole
foods
that
was
at
Baseline
that
closed
so
I'm,
not
sure
if
these
are
just
suggestions,
are
they
suggestions
that
people
have
thought
about
deeply
and
also
studied
and
got
metrics
on,
or
what's
your
thoughts
on
that.
N
Studied
in
box
on
I
would
say
no
again
just
kind
of
going
back.
O
N
E
First,
I
apologize
for
taking
another
shot
at
this.
A
couple
years
ago,
we
stood
up
the
hill
revitalization
working
group,
which
has
members
from
a
local
community
businesses,
cu,
cu
students
and
others
as
well.
E
N
E
Well,
I
I,
I
I.
It
was
stood
up
in
in
the
wake
I
think
of
of
the
the
Riots
of
a
couple
of
years
ago,
and
it
has
done
a
lot
of
work
in
terms
of
noise,
ordinances
and
trash
ordinances,
and
so
I
think
they
have
a
fairly
deep
understanding
of
the
challenges
that
occur
in
this
district
and
I'm.
Just
saying
you
know,
I
would
think
it
would
be
profitable
to
engage
with
them
to
see
what
their
thoughts
are
on.
Some
of
this.
M
So
yeah,
thanks
for
the
question,
we
absolutely
included
members
from
the
the
neighborhood,
the
hill
revitalization
group.
That's
focused
on
the
neighborhood
in
our
tap
stakeholder
process
as
part
of
our
public
engagement
work.
M
If,
if
Council
supports
this
broader
strategy
development
for
a
district-wide
improvements
as
part
of
our
engagement
process,
we
would
certainly
include
conversations
with
the
the
neighborhood
group,
as
well
as
you
can
see,
which
leads
up
the
commercial
side
of
the
reinvestment
strategy
and
CU,
both
students
and
administration,
among
many
others,
from
Community
connectors,
and
what
we're
really
seeking
tonight
is.
M
Prior
to
this
evening,
there
had
been
a
capital
Improvement
project
approved
for
2025
for
redevelopment
of
14th
Street
lot
with
planning
dollars
already
allocated
and
we're
suggesting
that,
instead
of
of
going
down
that
track
of
of
just
focusing
on
Redevelopment
of
14th
Street,
because
we
can
only
have
so
much
capacity
that
we
first
want
to
take
a
step
back.
M
Have
that
engagement
with
the
various
stakeholders
in
the
development
of
the
district-wide
broader
strategies.
Before
we
pick
up
the
the
torch
for
the
future
of
14th
Street.
H
Mark
could
I
call
a
kuya
on
your
point
for
first
time,
so
Mark
brought
up
something
that
I
was
also
interested
in
and
he
brought
up
that
sort
of
revive
the
revitalization
working
group
and
I
appreciate
Regan,
pointing
out
that
it's
been
very
a
homeowner,
focused,
revitalization
and
and
less
so
maybe
business
and
economic,
revitalization
and
I'm
wondering
if
this
is
a
time
for
us
to
maybe
pivot
their
focus
a
bit
so
that
when
they
do
meet
and
as
they
continue,
because
we
just
did
a
package
of
a
bunch
of
ordinances
and
a
bunch
of
things
from
their
recommendations
and
maybe
there's
a
sense
of
feeling
idle.
H
Since
we
have
tackled
that
stuff
and
maybe
giving
a
new
cause
to
say,
no,
we
we
would
love
to
engage,
but
we
want
to
Pivot
you
towards
economic
vitality
and
what
this
revitalization
and
activation
look
like.
So
I'm
wondering
if
that's
something
that
that
we
would
would
Institute
or
we
would
sort
of
set
forth
for
them
or
or
what
have
you
but
but
I
think
overall,
all
of
those
engaged
on
the
hill
we
might
want
to
Pivot
them
so
that
we're
kind
of
more
uniformly
focused
on
economic,
vitality
and
and
business.
Revitalization.
E
Matt,
if
I
can
colloquy
back,
I
think
they're
still
working
on
some
ordinance
changes
but
other
than
that
I
think
the
pivot
might
make
a
lot
of
sense.
E
D
But
just
I
I
agree
with
Mark's
point
that
I
think
there
is
still
work
to
be
done
on
the
residential
side,
but
also,
if
it
kind
of
predates
my
time
but
I,
think
that
the
the
origins
of-
and
you
know
the
name
kind
of
spells
it
out.
But
the
origins
of
that
work
group
were
more
focused
on
the
the
economic
Vitality
side.
D
So
I
don't
want
it
to
be
seen
that
this
group
has
not
already
done
that
I
think
that
was
sort
of
tackled
first
and
then
we
got
into
residential
and
we're
now
seeing
some
of
the
fruits
of
the
labor
of
that
first
part
with
with
these
Hill
hotels
coming
online,
like
that,
was
an
outgrowth
I
think
of
the
early
work.
They
did
so
not
trying
to
squash
any
Community
participation,
but
it's
fun
to
give
that
history
as
I
as
I
think
it
exists.
F
Well,
I
I,
don't
know
if
I
have
the
answer
to
the
past,
but
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
they
are
indeed
continuing
to
work.
We
are
working
closely
with
them
on
a
chronic
nuisance
ordinance
and
have
a
couple
things
down.
The
pike
so
just
wanted
to
share
that.
That
is
in
fact,
their
continued
Focus.
K
And
Rachel
you
are
right
and
Aaron
can
confirm
this.
The
the
group
was
originally
formed
to
focus
on
Commercial
Redevelopment
and
particularly
around
the
conference
center
on
the
hill
I,
think
they
pivoted
to
Commercial
and
and
I
think
what
we're
suggesting
is.
They
may
want
to
Pivot
back
to
the
commercial
side
of
things
once
they
finish.
Their
work
on
the
residential
side
is
that
right,
Aaron
foreign.
K
N
All
right,
so
in
summary,
staff
recommends
prioritizing
broader
strategies
and
then
near
term
would
benefit
the
district
in
that
rule.
Enhance
District,
Vitality
it'll
generate
that
positive
economic
growth
that
we're
looking
for,
while
also
providing
you
did
with
an
opportunity
to
again
adapt
these
many
upcoming
changes
with
the
new
developments.
A
N
The
University
Hill
commercial
area
management
commission
is,
of
course,
The
Advisory
board
for
Eugene.
We
have
Cheryl
Liguori
on
the
call.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
about
the
feedback
that
I'm
going
to
share,
but
they've
been
very
closely
involved
in
all
the
work
we've
been
doing
on
the
hill,
including
the
revitalization
strategies
that
we're
exploring
and
they've
shared
some
really
valuable
feedback.
That
is
important
to
consider
so
next
slide,
you
can
see
emphasized
how
the
hill
is
a
very
special
place
in
Boulder.
N
First
and
foremost,
it
has
a
lot
of
positive
characteristics,
despite
these
existing
challenges
that
we're
seeing
so,
let's
Leverage
What
makes
it
so
special
and
unique,
and
not
forget
about
the
Hill's
history
and
potential
there's
a
desire
to
better
integrate
the
residential
neighborhood
with
the
commercial
district
with
the
CU
student
population.
So
let's
create
that
zipper,
rather
than
divine
the
hill
needs
local
Champions.
It
needs
strong
voices
that
are
advocating
and
committed
to
the
success
of
the
neighborhood
again
back
to
this
idea
of
identifying
the
hill
brand.
N
It
doesn't
need
to
be
rebranded,
but
let's
leverage
its
unique
and
eclectic
nature
to
enhance
that
identity.
That
can
then
be
promoted
to
the
city
at
Large
and
then
lastly,
parking
is
a
continuous
challenge
but
necessary
if
we
want
to
move
forward
with
these
broader
strategies,
including
more
activations,
we're
going
to
have
to
navigate
and
figure
out
how
to
accommodate
the
influx
people.
N
Given
the
limited
public
parking
on
the
hill
next
slide,
we
can
go
right
into
the
next,
so
next
steps
that
steps
identified,
Community
Vitality
will
facilitate
coordination
among
other
City
departments,
planning
and
development
services,
transportation
and
Mobility
housing
and
Human
Services
and
more
successful.
Revitalization
on
the
hill
requires
cross-departmental
involvement.
N
So
an
immediate
Next
Step
will
include
collaborating
with
other
City
staff
to
assess
the
roles
and
responsibilities,
we'd
like
to
develop
an
RFP
to
secure
planning
and
design
consultant
services
to
help
staff
identify
feasible
and
actionable
projects
that
can
be
executed
in
the
near
term,
so
projects
that
align
with
these
broader
goals
of
enhancing
the
identity
connecting
and
activating
the
district
and
ideally
could
be
implemented
over
the
next
one
to
three
years
and
then.
N
Lastly,
any
revitalization
efforts
will
of
course
require
input
from
the
broader
community
and
stakeholders,
so
we'd
work
with
our
communication
or
engagement
Department,
to
help
us
with
Outreach
and
soliciting
Community
feedback,
including
engaging
with
our
community
connectors
and
residents,
see
you
the
youth
opportunities,
Advisory
Board
and
more
we'll
also
plan
to
check
in
regularly
whether
you
can
see
counsel
other
boards
and
commissions
to
ensure
that
we
receive
feedback
and
Direction
and
ensure
progress
on
these
efforts.
N
K
Well,
let's,
let's
I'm
just
calling
people
and
ask
them
to
answer
all
the
questions
in
one
in
one
statement.
Mark
is
your
hand
up
to
start
us
off
run
mute
Lauren.
E
Actually,
that's
an
accident,
but
I'll
take
advantage
of
it.
I
am
very
supportive
of
doing
all
of
these
things,
but
the
only
thing
that
troubles
me
is
there's
an
implication
in
the
staff
memo
that
we
might
be
considering
going
back
to
two
o'clock
operating
hours
for
restaurants
on
the
hill
and
I,
just
want
to
remind
people
that
there
was
good
and
sufficient
reason
that
those
limitations
were
put
into
place
and
I
I'm
hard-pressed
to
see
how
that
will
be
and
improve.
E
I
understand
the
challenge
it
creates
for
the
restaurants,
but
I
am
hard-pressed
to
see
how
that
will
be
an
improvement
for
the
hotel
for
non-restaurant
businesses
or
for
residents.
So
I
would
want
to
be
very,
very
careful
about
that
and
one
last
comment:
it
was
with
respect
to
the
50
50
sales
of
food
versus
liquor.
E
You
know
having
done
probably
more
than
a
hundred
commercial
restaurant
leases
in
my
day.
That's
really
not
that
unusual.
A
covenant
to
enter
into
most
landlords
want
to
ensure
that
their
tenants
are
operating.
E
You
know
a
a
higher
end
kind
of
establishment
than
you
get
with
somebody
who's
generating
60
70
percent
of
of
their
gross
receipts
from
liquor.
So
the
you
know
we
can
do
with
that.
What
we
will,
but,
let's
not,
let's,
not
feel
that
that's
anything
very,
very
unusual
because
it
really
is
not
in
the
in
the
world
of
commercial
restaurant
leases.
G
Thank
you
yes
and
yes,
for
me,
I
think
it's
a
really
good
idea
to
do
some
engagement
before
moving
forward
in
some
different
directions.
Here.
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
kind
of
excited
about
is
the
opportunity
to
think
about
how
we
could
use
a
space
like
the
14th
Street
lot
and
just
the
hill
in
general
to
really
build
more
connections
between
the
people
who
are
living
on
the
hill
between
the
folks
who
are
non-zio
Affiliated
and
the
people
who
are
CEO
Affiliated.
G
So
this
seems
like
a
really
nice
opportunity
to
think
about
how
we
can
design
the
space
in
a
way
that
will
bring
people
together
that
to
the
point
that
my
colleague
has
brought
up
about
changing
the
hours
for
restaurants,
I
am
actually
less
concerned
about
that
and
I
sort
of
wonder
whether
we
might
have
better
luck
with
creating
a
better
residential
environment.
G
If
we
eat
more
concentrated
people,
so
they
weren't
necessarily
in
their
homes,
drinking
and
outside,
and
things
like
that,
but
we're
rather
in
spaces
not
only
where,
where
it
was
more
appropriate
to
kind
of
be
gathering
socially
at
later
hours
of
the
day,
but
also
in
places
where
there's
somebody
monitoring
alcohol
consumption,
so
so
that
to
me
seemed
like
a
good
thing,
also
I
think
for
conferences.
G
You
know
one
of
the
just
with
my
CU
hat
on
for
a
moment,
one
of
the
things
that
some
of
the
folks
that
are
really
excited
about
on
the
research
side
of
Campus
is
having
a
place
for
these
larger
scientific
conferences
and
having
some
hours
to
go
later.
It's
really
the
time
when
people
all
around
the
world
can
gather,
and
sometimes
those
meetings
do
go
really
late
as
you're
planning
the
next
Grant,
or
something
like
that
so
anyway,
just
wanted
to
add
that
as
well.
Thank
you,
but
thanks.
J
Thank
you,
I'm
I
agree
with
Nicole
on
yes
and
yes,
I
have
some
caveats
or
concerns
I,
think
or
things
that
I'd
like
to
see.
J
One
of
the
first
things
around
Transit
and
parking
is
I'd
like
to
see
a
branded
sort
of
Transit
bus
connection
to
you
know,
off-site
parking
or
something
around
like
trying
to
Brand
some
of
the
parking
options
for
people's
just
so
that
that's
clearer
for
how
people
might
get
to
and
from
that
area
it
might
you
know,
as
it
was
mentioned
in
the
packet,
it's
already
a
very
highly
served
area
with
buses,
so
it
might
just
be
making
some
of
those
connections
more
explicit
for
people
in
terms
of
District,
identity
and
I
think
this
speaks
a
little
bit
to
you
know
some
of
the
high
level
of
regulation
in
this
area.
J
I
really
would
like
to
see
us
open
up
and
allow
for
more
creativity
in
this
area.
To
kind
of
it
feels
like
the
businesses
aren't
totally
allowed
to
bring
forth
a
strong
identity
right
now,
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
play
into
that,
but
looking
at
relaxing
some
rules
so
that
the
identity
piece
can
really
be
from
the
businesses
forward,
as
opposed
to
like
trying
to
come
up
with
a
branding
idea
that
we're
like
sort
of
pasting
around
and
then
with
the
connection
piece
and
the
entrances.
J
For
me,
I
see
connecting
13th
Street
with
downtown
I'm,
really
excited
about
kind
of
looking
at
an
arboretum
update
and
that
piece
of
it
I'm
not
so
excited
about
trying
to
do
signal
changes
at
those
entrance
intersections
or
things
like
that.
To
me,
the
heart
of
the
district
is
really
away
from
Broadway
a
little
bit
and
I
think
that
that's
okay,
I
think
that
once
that
gets
energized,
people
will
be
drawn
there
without
a
big
sign
that
is
like
this
is
the
entrance
to
the
hill
and
then
with
the
activation.
I.
J
Think
that
you
know
from
on
the
business
side.
You
hear
this
in
Resort
communities
all
the
time
and
because
it's
because
they
rely
so
much
on
student
s,
for
the
businesses
in
that
area,
I
think
they
have
a
similar
issue
right
with
their
kind
of
downturn
during
the
summer,
and
so
for
me.
The
activation
piece
during
the
summer
is
probably
the
most
important
to
make
sure
that
we're
drawing
people
up
to
that
area.
J
When
students
aren't
there,
because
it's
delightful
to
hang
out
on
the
hill
in
the
summer
and
I
think
we
just
need
to
remind
people
of
that
I
know
in
our
future
item
we're
going
to
talk
a
lot
about
or
a
little
bit,
maybe
about
food
carts
and
food
trucks,
or
that
was
in
the
packet
at
least
and
I.
Wonder
if
there's
a
place
for
those
kinds
of
things
on
the
hill
as
well,
just
to
kind
of
help
bring
that
street
level
activation
up
thanks.
That's
all
I
got
thank.
H
Thanks
Bob
and
yeah
I'll,
just
finish
off
by
saying
Regan,
you
made
it
through
the
nine
inning
game.
Well,
so
so
thank
you
so
much
and
we
can
just
stay
on
the
baseball
analogies
all
night
on
that
one
I
want
to
start
with,
perhaps
maybe
with
the
lowest
hanging
fruit
is
here
and,
and
it
maybe
counters
a
little
bit
with
my
colleague
Mark.
H
You
know,
there's
some
basic
psychology
to
this
with
regards
to
the
liquor
and
the
ebb
and
flow
and
noise
and
sound
and
trash,
and
what
we've
been
playing
more
or
less
whack-a-mole
with
which
is
no
matter
which
generation
of
students
come
in
they're,
going
to
want
to
have
fun,
they're
going
to
want
to
express
themselves
and
having
fun,
and
when
I
was
a
student
we
partied
on
the
hill
we
went
to
the
rack,
went
to
Teresa's,
we've
been
to
the
sink
like
there
was
places
you
could
go
to
have
fun
and
then,
when
the
night
was
over,
if
it
was
at
2
A.M,
you
went
home
on
The
Hill.
H
We
shut
that
down
with
BRC
965b
and
where'd.
They
go.
They
went
to
their
homes
to
party,
and
now
what
are
we
doing?
We're
playing
whack-a-mole
we're
trying
to
increase
ordinances
daytime
nuisance,
have
more
enforcement
because,
of
course,
they
got
shut
down
from
the
hill
and
they
Spilled
Out
Back
Westward
on
the
hill,
so
I
I
think
that
makes
total
sense
from
a
psychological
perspective
we
want
to.
We
can
enforce
all
we
want,
or
we
can
just
provide
younger
folks,
a
place
to
be
and
that
commercial
area
of
the
Hill
makes
perfect
sense.
H
It
worked
when
I
was
a
student
there's,
no
reason
why
it
won't
work
for
for
future
generations
of
students
and
those
that
want
to
enjoy
that.
So
so,
to
me,
the
lowest
hanging
fruit
is
just
to
Simply,
rescind
BRC
9-6-5-b,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
also
an
equity
issue.
Why
would
we
treat
these
businesses
any
different
than
the
businesses
in
our
rest
of
our
community?
We've
deliberately
handicapped
any
business
that
currently
exists
or
wants
to
exist
on
the
hill.
H
I
mean
that's
unconscionable
when
we
think
about
wanting
to
boost
economic
Vitality,
especially
on
the
backside
of
covid
and
even
double,
especially
if
it's
even
a
phrase.
Restaurants
and
Hospitality
have
been
impacted
the
most
and
have
the
longest
road
to
recovery.
So
I
I
to
me,
there's
just
like
a
very
simple
thing.
We
can
do
here
scratch
the
thing
that
shouldn't
have
ever
been
placed
to
begin
with
and
bring
back
equity,
and
let
businesses
have
a
chance
to
thrive.
To
me.
H
That's
just
simple
easy
good
governance
for
us
to
do
and
I'd
love
to
see
us
pursue
that
with
regards
to
activations.
So
I,
like
number
one
I
like
number
two
that
point
on
the
the
liquor
law,
I
think,
is
something
we
need
to
do
really
quick.
It
doesn't
need
engagement
like
we
can
just
do
this
and
Lead
and
get
that
show
on
the
road.
As
I
said
my
piece
on
Activation,
so
I
hope
we
put
the
resources
in
to
get
that
done.
H
Right,
I'd,
like
to
see
also
make
streamline
the
events
that
event
streams,
the
only
one
we
have
in
the
city
and
it
needs
to
be
TurnKey.
It
should
be
like
a
wedding
venue
where
you
like
Say
Hey
I,
want
to
use
that
event
Street
for
100
people
and
it's
like
boom
boom
boom.
Here
are
the
specific
things
I
want
to
do.
150
boom
boom
boom
treat
it
like
a
wedding
venue,
make
it
as
simple
as
possible
for
anybody
to
activate
that
space
and
then
lastly,
I
agree
with
Nicole
conference
season.
H
When
I
was
working
at
the
University,
we
had
the
number
one
funded
NASA
funded,
Public
University
in
the
in
the
country.
We
couldn't
host
any
NASA
conferences
here
at
CU,
and
it's
because
we
didn't
have
the
space
for
it.
Now,
with
that
we
will,
and
those
were
all
summer
based
conferences,
so
the
ebb
and
flow
I
think
will
be
really
well
that
the
Summer's
low
for
most
businesses
on
the
hill.
That's
what
hurts
them.
H
We
bring
conferences
in
that
Rising
tide
floats
their
boats,
so
the
seasonality
of
those
conferences,
I
think,
will
be
a
great
great
addition,
but
I
don't
think.
It'll
have
too
many
impacts
on
parking
because
we
already
don't
have
the
students.
So
when
summer
conferencing
comes
up,
that
parking
need
is
diminished
from
from
that
from
that
need,
so
I
think
we'll
be
in
pretty
good
shape
there,
but
otherwise
great
job
Regan
Chris.
You
got
yourself
some
a
good
staff,
and
that's
it
for
me
appreciate
it.
I
Matt
I'm
so
glad
I
go
after
you
because
I'm
equally,
as
passionate
we
have
I,
have
to
ask
myself:
are
we
trying
to
make
the
hill
businesses
suffer
on
purpose?
Why
are
we
making
it
so
impossible
for
them
to
succeed?
First,
we
have
the
50,
which
is
nowhere
else
in
the
city.
Is
that
right
Regan?
Nobody
else
has
that
50
correct
yeah
and
they
have
to
they
have
to
close
early.
It's
almost
like
we're,
saying
I,
don't
know
why
the
hell
isn't
is
not.
I
I
is
not
a
great
place
anymore,
but
we
gave
you
all
these
rules,
but
why
isn't
a
great
place?
Well,
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
it
deteriorated.
So
for
me
they
said
they
want
a
partner
and
I,
say
I,
don't
know
about
you
all,
but
I
definitely
want
to
be
a
partner.
I
want
to
make
the
hill
successful
again.
I
The
I
believe
that
the
success
as
far
as
The
Branding
goes
so
yes
get
rid
of
those
I
think,
as
as
a
council,
we've
always
wanted
to
get
rid
of
as
many
obstacles
as
possible
for
stopping
businesses
from
succeeding
and
so
I
hope
that
we
can
do
that
tonight
as
well
as
far
as
branding
I
would
say:
it's
the
chicken
in
the
egg
situation,
where,
if
we
take
away
the
obstacles
and
the
rules
that
are
making
it
so
difficult,
I'm,
hoping
that
the
hill
will
make
its
own
brand,
it
fun
or
funky.
I
One
thing
we
don't
want
to
do
is
like
fake
branding
right
where
we
have
a
cute
sign
and
Lauren.
You
know
you
and
I
discuss
another
meeting
and
we
say:
oh,
the
hill
is
so
cute,
but
it
isn't
cute
right
now,
I
mean
it
just
isn't
so
having
a
sign
telling
people
to
go
to
the
hill
right
now,
why
don't
we
release
it
to
be
everything?
It
can
and
then
see
how
it
turns
out,
and
then
we
brand
it
according
to
how
it
became
hopefully
fun
and
funky,
because
we
don't
have
that
right.
I
Now,
let's
see
I
said
that
I
said
that
don't
have
anything
else.
I
I
did
want
to
say
that
I
was
particularly
thrilled.
That
CU
supported
the
hill
with
that
Financial
financially,
by
helping
with
the
ambassadors
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
a
big
help.
I
didn't
get
to
actually
ask
did
that
program
start
already
and
if
it
did,
has
it
been
successful?
Has
it
helped
at
all
it.
N
Did
start
and
it's
been
very
successful
so
far,
we
actually
just
had
a
meeting
on
the
hill
recently
with
the
Merchants
Association
and
local
business
owners
and
the
ambassadors
themselves
of
sort
of
meet
and
greet
which
went
fantastic
and
I
know
that
community
members
are
really
thrilled
about
it.
Oh.
I
Good
and
I,
just
I,
think
I'll
end
with
I've
said
this
before
this
is
our
opportunity
of
a
lifetime.
We
really
only
have
a
year
to
make
this
place.
Great
people
can
go,
they
can
go
towards
downtown
or
they
can
go
towards
the
hill
right
now,
they're
going
to
go
downtown
and
so
for
me,
I
want
to
com.
I
want
to
commit
to
doing
as
much
as
we
can
as
a
body
to
help
them
to
go
towards
the
hill
commercial
District.
That's
all
I
have
to
say.
M
Well,
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
it
and
I
know
you
mentioned
this
region
that
Cheryl
Liguori,
the
chair
of
you,
can
see,
and
the
CEO
of
Z2
entertainment,
the
owners
of
The
Fox
and
the
Boulder
Theater
she's
on
the
call
I
just
wanted
to
remind
council
members.
If
you
do
have
any
questions
related
to
your
comments
for
her.
If
you'd
like
to
provide
that
opportunity,
oops.
I
K
Thanks
Tara
and
why
don't
we
take
a
pause
before
we
get
to
Rachel,
Aaron
and
Junior,
and
and
Cheryl
you've
been
listening
to
a
lot
of
this
and
and
I
know
that
you
can't
see
in
your
group.
I
just
went
through
quite
a
bit
of
this
work,
any
reactions
or
any
comments
you
want
to
share
with
us.
Joe.
Q
Thanks
for
the
opportunity,
because
I
I'm
actually
at
a
fundraiser
at
the
moment
and
we'll
need
to
jump
off
this
call
so
I'll
I
would
love
to
answer
any
questions.
You
know
I.
Think,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
thank
the
city
for
a
couple
of
things
and
I
think
the
biggest
game
changer
for
us
is
the
ability
to
have
the
hotel
and
that
started.
Q
When
city
council
allowed
the
Hill
University
District
to
be
carved
out
of
the
height
restriction,
and
that
was
what
almost
10
years
ago
that
predates
the
University
Hill
working
group.
Q
So
the
university
Hotel
would
never
have
been
able
to
be
built
if
city
council
didn't
assist
with
that,
and
and
also
the
generous
general
fund
transfers
to
keep
the
district
alive.
We
know
that's
a
heavy
lift
and
for
many
many
years
in
studies
we
have
talked
about
ways
to
make
the
district
sustainable,
and
we
will
continue
that
conversation.
Q
I
want
to
talk
briefly
about
my
experiences
on
the
hill.
I
would
like
to
say
that
most
of
the
raucous
rioting
untoward
behavior
that
the
city
attaches
to
the
University
Hill
commercial
District
really
does
start
an
end
in
the
residential
section.
So
I
think
the
the
district
itself
has
been
kind
of
unfairly
punished
for
what
happens
in
the
residential
area.
Even
the
riot
that
people
love
to
talk
about
it
started
in
the
residential
section
and
and
then
move
toward
the
hill.
It
didn't
start
in
the
commercial
District.
Q
I
can
tell
you
for
several
people
who
are
at
this
fundraiser
and
and
Pete
Turner,
who
owns
Illegal
Pete's
I've
personally
asked.
Why
won't
you
come
to
the
hill?
We
had
many
intercept
studies
and
many
conversations
with
residents.
What
would
you
like
to
see
on
the
hill
that
would
draw
you
as
a
resident?
Not
just
a
student
resident
but
as
a
resident
of
the
hill
and
they've
all
talked
about
a
better
sit-down
restaurant,
a
microbrew
and
all
three
of
them
had
said.
Why
would
I
go
to
the
hill
when
nowhere
else
in
the
state?
Q
Do
you
have
to
have
50
percent
of
your
sales
in
food?
And
if
you
talk
to
any
finer
dining
places
it,
it
isn't
maybe
a
lease
issue,
but
it's
an
operational
issue
that
that's
a
hard
pill
to
swallow.
It's
not
it's
not
a
result
of
people
wanting
to
just
pour
alcohol
down
our
students
and
and
the
idea
of
having
supervision
is,
is
a
great
idea.
I
think
you
know
marked
from
the
sink.
Q
They
chose
to
close
early
I,
think
illegal
Petes
and
the
Fox
Theater,
probably
the
only
people
who
operate
till
or
can
not
always
but
have
the
ability
to
operate
until
two
in
the
morning.
So
I
will
say
that
regulatory
barrier
is
very
unfair
and
it
it
has
definitely
stopped
I
called
Peter
from
illegal
Pete
who
was
going
to
go
into
potentially
the
albums
on
the
hill
space
to
expand
and
maybe
have
a
small
music
venue
and
make
it
you
know,
make
the
hill
a
little
more
active.
Q
There
used
to
be
three
or
four
music
venues
on
the
hill
and
he
specifically
said
no
I'm,
not
gonna,
stop
at
11.
I'm,
not
gonna
have
to
worry
about
my
percentage
of
food
to
alcohol,
so
it
is
truly.
You
know.
Dave
query
said:
why
would
I
go
up
there?
Kevin
Daly
from
the
Mountain
Sun
Group
said.
Why
would
I
go
up
there?
Q
It
is
truly
it.
It
has
an
impact
and
I
think
if
we
were
to
have
businesses
like
that,
whether
they
stayed
open
till
two
or
one
or
midnight.
As
you
see
a
lot
of
downtown
businesses
close
it,
it
could
really
be
a
wonderful
thing
to
draw
some
of
the
families
down
to
the
hill
and
and
feed
the
students
as
well
something
other
than
sandwiches
and
pizzas,
and
and
things
like
that,
so
I
do
think.
Q
That's
really
important
and
thank
you
to
you
know
to
Matt
and
Tara
and
Nicole
for
kind
of
understanding
that
the
creativity
is
not
all
tied
to
alcohol
service
and
that
it
does
allow
businesses
to
explore
their
greater
potential.
There
I
think
we
are
connected
already.
We
see.
One
of
the
first
things
on
you
can
see
was
lighting
and
safety
for
me
and
we
did.
We
did
get
Lighting
in
the
student
walking
corridors.
Q
The
students
abandoned
the
hill
when
the
additional
restrictions
and
businesses
started
to
close,
and
so
they
just
moved
down
to
as
I
I.
Don't
know
how
many
of
you
go
out
late
at
night
and
the
West
Pearl
District,
but
they've
just
abandoned
the
hill
and
they've
moved
moved
downtown
and
any
anybody
who
goes
out
at
night
on
a
Thursday
in
downtown
Boulder
probably
knows
that
so
I
I
do
think
that
there
are.
We
are
very
thankful
for
the
work
that's
been
done.
Q
Q
Putting
my
business
manager
hat
on
and
it
is.
It
is
challenging
for
my
employees
to
get
home
after
work
for
patrons
to
park
and
drive
around
so
I
do
think
parking
is
a
real
challenge.
I
love
the
idea
of
a
grocery
store
when
you
have
Alfalfa's
gone
and
you
have
Whole
Foods
gone
a
place
for
students
and
residents
to
be
able
to
walk
down
and
grab
some
lettuce
and
and
chicken
for
their
for
their
dinner
would
be
a
lovely
thing.
Q
The
university
does
not
contribute
to
the
Financial
pot
so
to
speak,
so
I
think
a
another.
Q
Another
business
would
be
great,
but
I
I
do
we.
We
do
have
challenges
and
those
of
us
on
you
can't
see
and
the
business
owners
the
hill
Boulder
has
one
part-time
employee
and
three
businesses
that
participate
so
the
hill.
The
idea
of
the
Merchants
Association
is,
is
not
a
true
Merchant
Association,
it's
one
part-time
employee
who
gets
were
funded
by
the
city
for
that
and
it's
the
same
for
businesses
that
participate
and
do
everything
on
the
hill,
so
we'd
love
to
see
bigger
businesses.
Q
Q
Once
we
have
once
we
have
a
better
Hill
feel
and
it
feels
safe
and
it
feels
clean
I
think
activation
would
be
great.
Q
So
those
are
those
are
my
thoughts
and
I.
I
will
say.
Thank
you
for
the
work
that
we've
done.
I
think
I'd
I'd
love
to
see
greater
consideration
for
some
of
the
true
challenges,
one
of
them
being
the
regulatory
barrier,
and
then
we
know
we
have
to
get
off
the
the
generosity
of
the
general
fund
and
I.
Think
property
owners
are
a
challenge
on
the
hill.
It's
a
when
you
look
at
14
occupancy
over
such
a
small
District.
Q
That's
a
that's
a
big
percentage
for
such
a
small
number.
So
we
really
want
new
businesses
and
it's
hard
for
us
to
attract
them.
K
Well,
thank
you
Cheryl
and
we'll.
Let
you
get
back
to
your
fundraiser,
but
thanks
for
sharing
the
view
of
you,
campsie.
Q
Well,
I'm
I'm
available.
If
anybody
has
just
a
few
questions
for
a
few
more
minutes
or
or
I
can
step
off
now.
D
Thanks
Bob
and
thanks
Cheryl
I,
don't
have
any
questions.
I
super
appreciate
it
and
agreed
with
your
perspectives
and
I
line
up
pretty
well
with
what
most
others
have
said,
except
no
offense
Wallach
I
did
not
line
up
with
you
tonight
on
this
I
also
wanted
to
appreciate
Cheryl's
mention
of
albums
on
the
hill
I.
Think
many
of
us
missed
that
store.
So
thanks
for
mentioning
them
tonight,
my
dog's
breathing
right
into
this.
Of
course,
I'm
gonna
look
walk
around
and
see
if
I
can
get
the
dog
to
stop
barking.
D
The
code
limitations
on
on
liquor
licenses
on
the
hill
never
made
a
lick
of
sense
to
me.
So
I
would
actually
Fast
Track
that
one
I'm
not
sure
if
I
missed
some
sort
of
an
exemption
mention,
but
I
cannot
imagine
how
a
hotel
could
maintain
a
bar
without
being
able
to
you
know,
serve
after
10
pm
or
I.
Don't
know
what
everybody
else
does
in
hotels,
but
usually
my
interface
with
Hotel
food
is
is,
is
after
10
and
is
probably
a
little
bit
heavier
on
the
drinking.
D
So
that's
hard
I,
just
don't
understand
how
that
could
work
on
the
hill
working
group,
which
I
was
a
part
of
for
a
few
years.
I
I
often
repeated
one
of
my
mantras
of
like
well.
If
we're
telling
people
no
here,
we
need
to
have
a
Yes
somewhere
else.
I
think
we've
worked
hard
on
saying.
We
really
don't
want
students
to
to
create
a
lot
of
noise
in
the
residential
neighborhoods
and
and
there's
a
couple
ways
that
I
think
we
can
get
at
that.
D
One
is
I
think
having
establishments
that
they
can
go
to
where
it
is
a
yes
later
at
night,
because
I
do
think
students
are
gonna.
You
know,
people
of
that
age
are
gonna,
do
what
they're
gonna
do
and
also
as
a
mom
of
Cu
students,
especially
right
now
with
the
you
know,
fentanyl
overdose
epidemic
and
such
I
would
really
prefer
that
our
kids
are
using
substances
honestly
in
front
of
trained
staff
than
like
in
basements
I,
don't
know
as
much
about
the
building
and
affordable
housing
restrictions
on
the
hill.
D
So
I'm
not
suggesting
that
be
fast-tracked
wanted
to
note
that
at
a
conference
I
was
in
in
Barcelona.
D
D
If
you
have
a
choice,
something
maybe
it
was
Tara,
they
were
sending
texts
like
in
real
time
they
were
seeing
like
where
they
needed
kind
of
crowd
control
and
to
maybe
incentivize
people
to
move
from
one
part
of
the
city
to
another,
with
coupons
or
like
discounts
or
things,
so
just
lift
that
up
as
maybe
something
we
could
do
to
incentivize
people
go
into
multiple
different
kind
of
tourist
spots
on
busy
days
in
our
city,
especially,
but
also,
maybe
just
if
there
is
an
area
that's
within
community
vitalities
umbrella.
D
Maybe
that's
something
you
could
look
at
what
Barcelona
is
doing
I
think
we
obviously
need
some.
You
know
the
transportation
links
aspect.
It's
going
to
need
a
lot
of
future
engagement
and
discussion
and
tab
check-ins,
and
things
like
that,
and
it's
just
going
to
be
a
little
bit
of
a
Debbie,
Downer
and
point
out
a
couple
terms
that
were
used
tonight
that
that
were
either
confusing
or
I
think
maybe
or
not
terms
that
we're
using
anymore.
D
So
when
is
grandfathering,
I
think
the
the
term
that
we're
using
now
is
Legacy
rather
than
grandfather,
just
societally
and
then
activation
I
think
that
that
gets
used
a
few
ways
by
the
city.
You
know,
as
as
an
example,
I've
heard
it
in
City
presentations
as
a
sort
of
a
term
of
art,
of
making
a
place
less
inviting
for
homeless.
D
Folks,
I've
also
heard
it
as
a
place
where
you
are
really
encouraging
pedestrian
and
cycling
infrastructure,
so
I,
don't
and
and
one
person
that
I
talked
to
today
was
actually
confused
by
what
we
meant
by
that.
So
I
would
say.
Maybe
there's
a
better
word
that
we
could
use
in
the
next
presentation
than
activation
depend
I,
think
you
mean
it
in
the
second
way
in
this
presentation,
but
I'm
not
100,
but
I.
Think
that's
what
it
is,
and
so
maybe
just
be
a
little
crisper
but
I
think
it's
great
stuff.
D
Regan
welcome
to
the
city
a
year
late!
Thanks
for
that
awesome,
presentation
and
introduction,
and
and
I'm
a
yes
and
a
yes
on
the
two
questions.
Thanks
so
much.
K
Thanks
great
so
we'll
have
Aaron
Juni
second
helping
for
Tara
and
then
I'll
wrap
this
up.
So
we
can
move
on
to
the
second
presentation.
Aaron.
B
Okay,
well,
I'll
I'll
be
pretty
quick,
because
people
have
generally
expressed
my
thoughts
already
so
Regan
and
team.
You
all
are
doing
a
phenomenal
job.
B
I
think
your
Suite
of
recommendations
are
absolutely
On,
Target,
so
I'm,
definitely
supportive
on
yes
and
NES
on
one
and
two
and
just
a
plus
one
to
my
colleagues,
who've
mentioned
about
the
alcohol
service
on
the
hill
that
that,
in
a
regular,
serving
alcohol
to
Young
to
people
over
the
age,
but
younger
folks
in
a
well-regulated
environment
is,
is
preferable
to
these
House
Parties
that
have
been
getting
out
of
hand.
B
So
I
think
that's
a
good
step
to
take
going
forward
and
as
well
as
the
50
50
rule,
so
I
think
equalizing.
These
rules,
out
with
the
rest
of
the
city,
makes
sense
and
I
think
that
can
be
productive
for
the
hill
and
the
overall,
the
residential
area
going
forward
so
really
like
the
direction
you're
going
and
thanks
for
a
great
job.
L
You
know
thank
you
for
this
presentation
as
well.
It
was
very
thorough,
I
might
answer
to
one
and
two
is
yes
and
yes,
I
appreciate
the
comments,
or
at
least
the
part
of
the
presentation
when
you
talked
about
Community
stakeholder
engagement,
I
think
that's
very
important
as
part
of
this
project.
Cu
businesses
on
the
hill
and
integrating
the
residential
Community
to
the
commercial,
District
I
think
that's
very
important.
L
L
Yes
on
the
broad
revitalization
by
staff
and
I
just
wanted
to
add
I
remember
when
I
first
ran
for
Council
back
four
years
ago,
I
remember:
community
members
and
many
businesses
on
the
hill
has
been
asking
for
the
activation
of
the
streets
and
Alleyways
and
planning
for
more
events.
I
know
that
Rachel
mentioned
hey.
Let's
change
the
word,
but
aside
from
that
community
members
have
been
asking
for
this,
so
I
think
it's
it's
about
time.
L
It's
been
a
very
very
long
time.
Community
members
have
been
asking
for
those
type
of
changes.
It
would
be
helpful.
We
have
a
you
know.
We
have
a
pretty
big
university,
that's
right
there
and
we
have
all
these
students
so
I
think
finding
ways
to
get
the
kids
involved
as
well.
It's
very
important
because
you
know
sometimes
when
I
think
you
know,
when
I
think
of
the
noise
issues
on
the
hill.
I
really
do
think.
L
A
lot
of
these
young
people
are
bored
not
to
make
excuses
for
them,
but
I'm,
seeing
if
we
have
more
opportunity,
is
to
engage
them
more
things
for
them
to
do
right
there
on
the
hill
I
think
they
might
be
less
they're
you
we
might.
We
might
right
because
I
don't
know
the
cause
of.
Why
there's
so
much
noise
aside
from
the
fact
that
young
people
make
noise
but
I,
think
keeping
them
busy
through
other
activities
in
the
community
might
be
helpful.
L
Yeah
I
think
it's
you're
doing
a
great
work.
Keep
up
the
great
work
and
I
do
believe
that
the
hill
could
be
self-sustaining
and
draw
community
and
businesses,
but
we
have
to
put
in
the
work
and
that
work
really
is
through
the
activation.
That
Community
has
been
asking
for
for
the
past
four
years.
So
keep
up
the
great
work
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
K
Thanks
Judy
territory,
did
you
have
a
follow-up
comment.
I
It's
actually
a
question,
but
first
junior.
Thank
you.
That
was
a
great
comment.
I
loved
it.
Yes,
two
things.
First
of
all,
boss,
lady
Pizza
I,
miss
you
so
much,
that's!
First
of
all.
Secondly,
I
just
have
a
question
not
really
double
dip,
possibly
a
double
dip,
but
not
really.
My
question
is
to
Cheryl.
I
Is
that
her?
Yes,
Cheryl?
Do
you
think
parking
wise
I
know
it's
a
problem
with
your
employees,
and
that
makes
me
sad.
So
will
you
be
able
to
last
until
the
Hill
Hotel
parking
goes
up,
or
is
there
any
way
to
do
give
some
immediate
help
to
that
situation?
Chris?
Is
there
something
we
can
do
in
just
the
next
year
to
help
those
employees
find
a
place
to
park.
Q
They
Park
in
the
neighborhood
our
patrons
and
our
employees
Park
in
the
neighborhood
I,
always
Park
in
the
what
I
still
refer
to
the
Jones
Street
parking
lot,
which
is
the
14th
Street
lot.
Q
Many
of
our
patrons
don't
know
it's
there.
So
that's
a
great
thing,
but
for
the
most
part
patrons
and
staff
just
circle
around
the
neighborhood
looking
for
parking,
and
that
is
easier
in
the
summer
and
during
our
very
busy
season
in
the
fall
in
the
spring,
it's
much
more
difficult
and
they
have
to
walk
much
further
late
at
night
to
get
to
their
cars.
K
M
I
feel
like
I
I
want
to
respond
as
well
in
appreciation
of
Cheryl's
experience
and
her
employees,
experience
and
and
terrorist
question.
There
are
a
lot
of
Dynamics
related
to
The
Parking
Challenge
on
the
hill,
including
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
regulated
parking
outside
of
the
commercial
District.
So
there
there
are
free
parking
conditions
on
the
residential
streets
directly
adjacent,
so
that
does
lend
itself
to
folks
searching
for
free
parking.
M
There
is
an
element,
of
course
that
we
we
sold
off
the
Pleasant
Street
lot
that
reduced
the
amount
of
paid
parking
available
in
the
district
for
folks
who
are
attending
a
concert
or
getting
to
the
hill
for
other
purposes.
We
do
have
already
established
arrangements
with
CU
when
it
comes
to
some
permit
parking
in
the
Grandview
area.
M
Already,
even
without
the
new
structure,
we
continue
to
also
become
concerned
and
wanting
to
provide
good
service
to
the
businesses
in
the
district
and-
and
we
have
the
14th
Street
lot
right
now
it
is,
it
is
paid
short-term
parking
only.
We
do
not
issue
permits
for
that
lot.
There
is
possibility
that
we
could
explore
some
permit-based
parking
for
certain
times.
M
For
that
space,
because
there
are
times
of
the
day
and
times
of
the
year,
that
it
is
very
underutilized
but
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
that
there
are
possibilities
we
could
explore.
I
don't
have
a
good
solution
for
you
right
this
moment,
but
we
know
that
these
are
challenges
and
we
want
to
work
with
the
businesses
to
to
navigate
a
positive
track
forward.
So
that
parking
isn't
the
thing
that
prevents
success
in
the
long
term.
K
Thanks
for
those
observations,
Chris,
let
me
try
to
at
the
risk
of
getting
it
wrong.
Let
me
try
to
summarize
what
I
think
I
heard
from
my
colleagues
and
first
of
all,
I
agree
with
with
pretty
much
everything
that
was
said
so
I'm
not
going
to
repeat
it's
been
said.
I
heard
some
comments
around
exploring
Financial
District
options
to
ensure
the
sustainability
of
the
district,
and
that
could
be
any
number
of
things
from
expanding
the
boundaries
of
of
you
did
to
perhaps
creating
a
DDA
to
maybe
create
a
bid.
K
I
know
the
staff
is
looking
at
all
those
things
and
it
sounds
like
there
was
enthusiasm
to
continue
that
work.
It
sounds
like
people
were
supportive
of
the
staff's
recommendation
to
wait
on
any
significant
changes
around
the
14th
Street
parking
parking
lot
until
we
see
how
things
shake
out
here,
and
particularly
with
the
490
spots,
coming
up
available
on
the
University's
property
and
maybe
a
direction
to
staff,
to
firm
that
up
a
little
bit
more
as
that
parking
lot
gets
finished.
K
K
I
heard
a
few
people
comment
that
once
the
hill
revitalization
working
group
finishes
its
its
work
on
the
residential
side,
that
they
return
to
the
original
work
and
be
a
engagement
tool
for
staff
when
it
comes
to
strategy
on
field
revitalization,
which
is
probably
got
started
several
years
ago
and
I
heard
a
pretty
significant
majority
of
folks
wanting
to
explore
code
changes
anything
folks
that
I
missed
was
it
a
good
recap?
Chris
have
your
hand
up
I.
M
M
F
I
think
we
certainly
heard
that
Chris
and
I
think
we'll
go
back
and
talk
to
CAO
and
with
our
planning
and
development
services
director.
But
we
certainly
get
that
there
is
a
great
appreciation
and
support
to
move
that
forward
and
we
will
perhaps
come
back
to
you
and
let
you
know,
timing
or
what
that
will
take.
K
F
B
Yep,
just
just
to
be
clear
by
fast
track,
we're
not
talking
about
circumventing
public
processes
here
right
just
to
move
forward
with
those
relatively
quick
but
quick
basis,
but
would
still
include
some
Outreach
and
public
hearing.
And
you
know
all
our
typical
stuff.
F
We
presume
engagement
is
involved,
which
is
why
we
want
to
go
back
and
talk
about
that,
and
we
also
want
to
make
sure
that
that
fits
within
the
work
plan.
Certainly
pnds
and
city
attorney's
office
is
doing.
But
we
are
happy
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
But
we
hear
we
hear
a
majority
wanting
to
move
in
that
direction
and
so
appreciate
that
I
think
the
direction
here
has
been
really
crisp.
B
K
And
thanks
to
the
other
staff,
members,
Kathleen
and
and
Natalie
who
were
here,
let
me
test
what
Nuria
just
said:
did
you
get?
Did
you
get
what
you
needed.
K
K
Not
sick
of
you
we're
we're,
loving
you
and
so
just
give
us
some
more
of
that
on
the
second
presentation
by
Regan,
it's
relatively
short
and
it
it
it's
pretty
streamlined,
and
so
our
suggestion
is.
K
Maybe
we
hold
our
questions
to
the
very
end
if
you
guys
can
and
we're
a
little
behind
schedule
now,
but
I
think
this
is
going
to
go
pretty
quick,
we
do
have
a
guest
speaker,
who's
gonna,
help
Regan
with
this,
who
she'll
introduce
here
in
a
few
minutes,
but
let's
let
Regan
and
her
guests
get
through
this
all
and
then
we'll
have
our
questions
at
the
end
and
then
she'll
ask
them
questions
for
us.
Reagan's
back
to
you
great.
N
M
Maybe
while
the
slides
are
coming
up
just
to
intro
this
a
little
bit,
we
are
so
delighted
to
have
been
able
to
continue
this
conversation.
It's
been
part
of
conversations
in
Boulder
around
development
for
many
many
years
now.
N
Thanks
Chris
and
yeah,
just
to
reiterate,
we're
really
excited
about
just
and
in
summary,
this
presentation
will
outline
the
context
around
the
cost
of
doing
business
in
Boulder,
as
well
as
our
recommendation
to
develop
an
affordable
commercial
pilot
program.
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide
so
quickly.
The
agenda
here,
we'll
start
with
those
questions
for
Council
that
were
in
the
memo
dive
into
a
background.
The
analysis
that
informed
our
recommendations,
I'll
I,
will
outline
some
next
steps
and
then
we
will
Circle
back
on
those
questions
for
discussion.
N
N
All
right,
diving
into
the
background
here,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
I'm,
going
to
start
by
outlining
some
high
level
context
and
some
of
the
issues
that
we're
seeing
today
Boulder
is
home
to
more
than
7
500
businesses,
the
majority
of
them
96
being
small
businesses,
which
is
defined
by
fewer
than
50
employees,
and
our
community
relies
really
heavily
on
them.
They
provide
jobs
for
local
residents
to
provide
critical
goods
and
services
and
generate
sales
taxes
to
help
fund
city
services.
N
Covid-19
exacerbated
a
lot
of
these
challenges
from
the
temporary
closures
that
businesses
face
to
social
distancing
requirements,
Staffing
shortages,
the
pandemic
again
exacerbated
many
existing
challenges,
creating
even
tighter
profit
margins
and
the
effects
of
the
pandemic
are
ongoing.
So,
while
some
businesses
have
largely
recovered,
others
continue
to
lag,
especially
that
small
business
community
and
then.
Lastly,
it's
important
to
know
that
this
is
not
a
new
topic
of
conversation.
The
idea
of
affordable
commercial
has
been
called
out
in
existing
City
plans,
prior
Council
meetings
and
a
subject
to
explore
further
on
City
staff
work
plans.
N
The
Boulder
Valley
comprehensive
plan
calls
out
the
rising
cost
of
commercial
space,
as
well
as
the
city-wide
retail
study
and
other
City
plans
and
I'll
reference.
Some
of
the
language.
From
these
studies.
During
the
presentation
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
all
right
now
that
I've
provided
some
brief
high-level
context.
N
In
downtown
Boulder
alone,
Community
Vitality
manages
12
commercial
spaces
owned
by
the
Central
Area
General
recruitment,
District,
also
known
as
cajid,
including
commercial
spaces,
on
the
ground
floors
of
our
district-owned
parking
structures.
So
one
of
those
retail
spaces
you
can
see
here
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
this
slide
at
1500,
Pearl
Colorado
Glassworks,
is
a
woman-owned
small
business
that
recently
leased
the
space.
N
Last
year
we
issue
a
limited
number
of
mobile
vending
cart
permits
each
year
to
enhance
the
vitality
and
the
visual
appeal
of
the
Pearl
Street
Mall,
and
these
permits
are
issued
for
both
retail
and
fast
casual
dining
options
and
they're
targeted
at
that
entrepreneurial,
small
business,
startup
community,
the
community
culture
resilience
and
safety.
Ccrx
tax
was
approved
for
a
15-year
extension
in
2021.
It
specifies
that
10
of
ccrs
tax
revenues
are
dedicated
to
support
non-profits
with
emphasizing
tackling
the
space
affordability
challenge,
30
Pearl,
which
is
now
called
Boulder
Commons.
N
So
to
help
address
the
high
cost
of
leasing
commercial
space.
The
city
included
a
below
Market
commercial
pilot
in
one
quadrant
of
the
30
Pearl
Project
being
developed
in
partnership
with
Boulder
housing
partners,
and
so
the
Covenant
requires
that
half
of
the
commercial
space
or
approximately
9
300
square
feet
will
be
believe,
will
be
leased
at
the
low
Mark
market
rate
rents.
N
We
engaged
with
the
CU
real
estate
Center
and
a
group
of
graduate
MBA
students,
with
the
aim
of
having
them
research
and
conduct
stakeholder
interviews
to
identify
strategies
that
enhance
the
availability
and
affordability
of
commercial
space
in
Boulder,
and
so
I
have
a
slide
later
dedicated
to
their
research
and
findings,
which
will
be
shared
here
shortly
and
I'm
excited
to
pass
it
off
to
Charles
Biddle
Porter.
At
that
point
who
was
on
this
call-
and
he
was
part
of
the
student
research
team,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
N
And
I'd
like
to
just
take
a
moment
to
talk
about
the
community
benefit
project,
which
is
an
important
initiative.
That's
been
the
topic
of
discussion
in
Council
and
prior
years,
so
Boulders
Community
benefit
project
is
a
tool
to
ensure
that
new
growth
in
development
contribute
positively
to
the
community.
N
And
so
since
then,
discussions
have
continued
about
the
potential
for
finding
other
ways
to
fund
programs
for
affordable
commercial,
including
using
a
similar
construct
how
the
city
funds
permanently
affordable
housing.
Nothing
has
been
brought
to
council
since,
but
it's
something
the
city
particularly
planning
and
development
services,
has
explored
and
discussed
next
slide.
N
So
it's
important
to
make
note
of
the
built
environment,
the
policies
and
the
factors
that
contribute
to
why
the
cost
of
doing
business
in
Boulder
is
so
high,
including
those
triple
net
lease
costs,
and
next
next
I'll
go
over
some
key
points
from
Newmark
groups.
Denver
office,
which
is
a.
N
So
the
graphs
you
see
on
this
slide
speak
to
the
total
square
footage
of
commercial
space
in
Boulder.
This
includes
office,
industrial
and
Retail,
the
horizontal
or
the
x-axis
depicts
the
year,
and
the
vertical
y-axis
is
square
feet.
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
remained
relatively
flat
over
the
past
15
years,
increasing
in
total
by
only
one
percent
from
2008
to
2022.
N
and
then
during
that
time,
just
to
break
it
down
a
little
further.
The
total
square
footage
of
office
increased
by
six
percent
for
industrial
space.
It
decreased
by
three
percent
retail
space
increased
by
four
percent
over
the
last
15
years
next
slide,
and
while
the
supply
of
commercial
space
has
remained
relatively
constant,
Numark
vacancy
rate
data
indicates
demand
is
fluctuated
again.
The
year
is
depicted
on
the
x-axis
and
the
percent
vacancy
rate
is
on
the
y
axis.
N
So
most
recently,
vacancy
rates
decreased
slightly
between
2021
and
2022
after
increasing
quite
significantly
in
2020
due
to
the
pandemic
and
the
mean
vacancy
rate
over
the
past
15
years
for
office
was
10.6
for
industrial
6.7
percent,
and
for
retail,
that
mean
vacancy
rate
for
the
past.
15
years
is
4.5
percent
next
slide.
N
N
N
Industrial
and
Retail
in
2021
rates
were
as
high
as
62
dollars,
a
square
foot
per
year
for
retail
space
in
Boulder,
and
while
the
highest
lease
rates
for
office
and
Industrial
declined
the
highest
rate
for
retail
increased
in
2022.,
and
then
it's
important
to
call
out
the
median
rate
so
for
downtown
Boulder
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
2022
was
32
dollars.
A
square
foot
medians
are
not
depicted
on
this
slide.
N
It's
only
the
low
and
high,
so
I
wanted
to
call
out
that
data
point
there,
and
since
this
data
does
not
account
for
inflation,
I'd
like
to
call
out
one
other
data
point.
The
average
annual
growth
rate
for
the
high
retail
lease
rates
was
six
percent
from
2008
to
2022.,
while
the
average
inflation
rate
during
that
same
period
of
time
was
2.35
percent.
N
So
that
tells
us
that
retail
lease
rates
are
increasing
quite
significantly,
even
when
taking
inflation
into
account
and
overall,
with
this
data.
Some
key
takeaways
here
are
that
the
supply
has
remained
fairly
constant,
with
fluctuations
in
demand,
but
an
increase
in
the
need
for
commercial
space
from
2021
to
2022.
N
R
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Regan
hello,
everyone,
I'm
very
honored
to
to
be
here,
presenting
my
team's
researcher
to
you
all.
So.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
The
opportunity,
as
William
mentioned
I've,
been
working
alongside
a
few
of
my
MBA
and
msba
classmates
for
the
past
year,
exploring
what
affordable
commercial
means
and
working
towards
developing
an
affordable
commercial
assistance
program
that
we've
called
Thrive
folder
for
the
city
to
potentially
Implement
to
help
small
businesses
and
ngos.
R
So
I
would
do
my
best
to
stay
high
level
with
this,
but
I'm
very
happy
to
sort
of
take
any
questions
at
the
end
with
Regan
and
I
believe
you've
all
received
our
report
in
your
memo
so
feel
free
to
ask
any
any
sort
of
clarifications
towards
the
end.
But
in
our
research
we
interviewed
a
number
of
sources,
both
public
and
private,
a
few
of
whom
are
actually
on
the
call
today.
R
R
The
primary
goals
in
our
research
were
to
address
the
increasing
cost
of
space
for
businesses
in
Boulder,
to
offer
support
to
small
businesses
and
ngos
to
increase
the
diversity
and
inclusion
rates
of
Boulders
commercial
districts
so
to
dive
into
the
program
itself.
We've
broken
five
border
into
two
key
components.
The
first
is
that
of
space,
and
this
would
see
the
city
enter
into
a
master
lease
agreement
for
a
unit
on
on
the
market,
and
they
would
then
sublease
this
to
micro,
tenants
and
these
micro
tenants
would
be
small
businesses
and
ngos.
R
The
city
would
be
able
to
secure
a
lease
that
some
of
these
small
businesses
wouldn't
be
able
to,
for
example.
So
that's
one
of
the
advantages
straight
off
as
well,
and
the
tenants
we
would
be
set
set
should
be
specifically
from
Boulder
the
Boulder
area,
but
this
is
obviously
a
program
to
implement
by
the
city
of
Boulder
the
least
run
time
we
set.
We
Believe
should
run
for
about
five
years,
at
which
point
we
feel
the
city
should
conduct
a
formal
review.
R
This
review
would
either
see
sort
of
the
current
participants,
be
able
to
re-enroll
and
continue
with
their
support
from
the
city,
or
the
opportunity
may
be
given
to
new
small
businesses
and
ngos
that
are
in
need.
Although
we
would
like
to
see
all
participants
organically
graduate
this
program
within
that
sort
of
five-year
period,
we
would
we
found.
R
This
also
addresses
the
need
for
smaller
space
as
well
as
more
affordable
space,
but
this
micro
release
inside
Master
Lease
would
offer
it's
important
to
note
that
tenants
will
be
paying
the
market
rate
for
their
space
where
we've
made
this
affordable
is
not
directly
in
subsidizing
their
rent,
but
instead
looking
at
the
costs
on
top
of
a
lease
so
largely
sort
of
under
operating
costs.
For
example,
this
is
your
tenant.
R
Improvement,
your
common
area,
maintenance,
your
property
management
and,
with
our
model
that
we
developed
during
our
research,
we
found
that,
under
our
recommendations,
we
could
reduce
the
overall
cost
of
a
lease
by
around
20
percent,
which
is
quite
significant
for
these
small
businesses,
and
that
brings
it
down
to
sort
of
80
overall,
although
we
did
design
our
model
to
be
dynamic,
as
as
you
want
to
scale
the
program
you
may
want
to
increase
or
reduce
funding
sort
of,
as
as
you
see
fit,
and
the
model
that
we
created
allows
for
that
local
examples
of
this
sort
of
space
in
the
city
of
Boulder
itself
would
include
boxcar
coffee,
which
some
of
you
may
be
familiar
with.
R
There's
three
businesses
in
that
space,
Avanti
or
Rosetta
Hall,
and
it's
a
similar
sort
of
idea
as
to
what
we'll
be
going
with
here,
the
second
component
that
we
put
into
describe
Boulders
and
Education
and
Training
component.
Now
this
component
will
be
free
to
all
participants
and
it's
not
exclusive.
It
will
be
available
to
all
small
businesses
and
ngos
in
Boulder.
R
This
is
going
to
be
a
collection
of
largely
existing
resources
that
the
city
already
offers
or
that
are
maybe
offered
by
ngos
collecting
them
all
under
one
umbrella
and
creating
new
Partnerships
or
leaning
on
current
Partnerships,
such
as
with
CU.
R
We
envision
sort
of
optional
courses
being
run
by
CU
and
through
discussions
with
some
of
the
CU
faculty
we've
gauged
there
is.
There
is
interest
and
potentially
helping
put
on
quarterly
seminars
for
small
businesses
and
and
ngos.
R
These
seminars
could
be
sort
of
on
any
topic
that
is
deemed
relevant
or
voted
for
by
the
small
business
and
ngos
to
make
sure
that
they're
receiving
sort
of
the
education
training
that
is
relevant
to
them
and
that
they
feel
is
is
important,
necessary,
but
I've
done
a
high
level
of
review
sort
of
out
of
it,
as
as
I
possibly
can
I
mean
I
head
back
to
Regan
and
again
I'm
very
happy
to
sort
of
try
and
try
and
answer
any
of
the
questions
you
may
have.
R
I
know
that
there's
quite
a
lot
of
detail
that
we
can
go
into
with
this,
but
I'm
going
to
pass
back
to
Regan
to
let
her
continue
with
her
presentation.
Thank
you.
N
Thank
you
so
much
Charles
and
I
would
just
like
to
add
that
you
know
findings
from
the
CU
proposal
and
Report
do
align
with
suggestions
from
subsidy
plans
such
as
the
Citywide
retail
study,
which
indicates
that
one
way
to
decrease
tenant
occupancy
costs
is
to
reduce
the
size
of
the
space
being
leased.
So
this
is
certainly
something
that
that's
been
of
Interest
or
at
least
discussed
within
the
city
for
some
time,
all
right,
I'm
going
to
try
to
take
us
home
quickly.
N
This
isn't
a
new
challenge
that
the
city
is
facing:
the
cost
of
doing
business
in
Boulder
and
loss
of
retail
diversity,
as
a
result
of
that
has
been
an
ongoing
topic
that
City
staff
and
and
Council
of
contemplated
for
several
years
now,
several
existing
efforts
but
time
to
formalize
our
approach
as
outlined
previously.
The
city
has
undertaken
various
projects
and
initiatives
to
tackle
this
Challenge
and
the
development
of
this
type
of
program
is
outlined
in
existing
City
plans.
N
Cu
research
led
to
creative
and
unique
ideas
that
staff
would
like
to
explore
further.
We're
really
excited
about
our
recent
partnership
with
the
CU
real
estate,
Center
and
student
team
and
the
ideas
and
proposals
that
came
out
of
that
research
project.
So
let's
explore
the
strategies
that
were
brought
to
the
table
further
and
then.
Lastly,
we
do
have
a
pool
of
funding
available
through
American
Rescue
plan
act,
funds
to
address
the
high
cost
of
doing
business
in
the
city
as
well
as
Central
Area,
General
Improvement
dollars
in
District
dollars
in
capital
funding.
N
N
We
can
go
to
the
next
slide
and
on
to
the
next,
so
staff
has
outlined
some
next
steps
that
we
think
we
should
prioritize
if
Council
supports
the
development
of
an
affordable
commercial
program.
These
include
partnering,
with
a
program
administrator
to
help
with
the
development
and
administration
of
a
program
conduct
thoughtful
and
intentional
Community
engagement
and
utilize.
Those
arpa,
as
well
as
those
Cajun
funding
resources
that
are
available
to
us
and
I'll
touch
on
each
of
these
more
in
depth.
So
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
N
N
It's
important
to
note
that
this
has
been
an
ongoing
discussion
with
several
stakeholders
and
organizations
within
the
community
for
years,
Boulder
chamber,
the
Small
Business
Development
Center
again
the
farmers
Farmers
Market,
there's
this
broad
interest
from
various
local
leaders
to
address
the
cost
burdens
to
local
small
businesses,
and
so,
let's
continue
to
engage
with
our
Civic
leaders,
but
also
the
broader
Community.
We
utilize
the
city's
racial
Equity
instrument
to
determine
potential
benefits
and
burdens
of
a
proposed
program
and
develop
strategies
that
Advance
racial
Equity
within
our
city.
N
N
Next
slide,
we
can
go
on
to
the
next
one,
all
right,
next
steps
so
similar
to
Hill
revitalization.
This
would
be
a
cross-departmental
effort
with
Community
Vitality
sort
of
taking
the
lead,
so
we
coordinate
with
other
City
staff
and
departments
to
identify
roles
and
responsibilities
and
work
plan
items
beginning
in
2024,
we'd
like
to
develop
an
RFP
to
bring
on
this
community
partner.
This
program
administrator
encumbering
funds,
ideally
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
beginning
that
work
in
2024.
N
So
with
that
said,
we'd
really
like
to
start
working
on
this
linear
term
Drafting
and
finalizing
that
RFP
is
an
immediate
next
step
in
2023.,
we'd
conduct,
Broad
and
Community
engagement,
again
utilizing
the
racial
Equity
instrument
and
then,
lastly,
of
course,
stakeholder
check-ins
with
boards
and
commissions
with
council,
with
updates
likely
being
brought
to
the
table
by
quarter
two
of
2024
with
the
goal
of
receiving
feedback
and
direction
to
ensure
success
of
a
pilot
program
next
slide,
all
right,
we
can
go
to
the
last
slide
here.
Just
circling
back
on
these
questions
for
Council.
K
Thanks
Rick
and
thanks
Charles,
that
was
really
great.
Let's
do
this.
Let's
see
if
we
have
any
questions
about
the
presentation
for
Regan
or
Charles
first
and
then
after
we
get
through
questions,
we
can
start
answering
your
questions.
I
see,
Tara's,
hands
up
and
then
Lauren.
R
This
was
where
we
came
to
I
can't
point
to
a
specific
piece
of
research.
We
thought
that
five
years
was
a
kid
on
the
Wheel
to
look
at
seven
years,
but
there
is
not
a
hard
stop
at
that
five-year
Mark.
We
felt
that
five
years
was
long
enough
to
be
able
to
look
back
at
business
records
and
financial
records
and
be
able
to
establish
whether
there
has
been
Positive
Growth,
where
there
has
been
change,
but
also
wanted
to
ensure
that
the
city
wasn't
locked
in
a
long
for
a
long
duration
forever.
R
J
J
You
know
that
there
is
also
a
shoe
repair.
Business
was
brought
up
as
like
an
example
of
a
business
and
I.
Just
wonder
if
we're
not
encouraging
a
shoe
repair
person
to
incubate
their
business
like
in
their
residence,
or
something
like
that.
That
is
a
little
problematic,
because
it's
the
chemicals
associated
with
that.
N
Thank
you
for
those
questions
and
I
think
the
criteria
that
you're
referencing
was
from
the
CU
proposal,
the
92
000
annual
revenue
and
then
being
in
business
for
at
least
two
years
and
Charles.
Maybe
you
can
speak
a
little
bit
more
as
to
how
you
you
came
up
with
those
numbers.
You
know
at
this
point,
they're
really
just
suggestions
and
we
would
certainly
conduct
Community
engagement
and
work
with
a
community
partner
to
to
establish
that
criteria.
R
Yes,
yes,
I
can
so
those
those
numbers
were.
We
were
looking
at
a
pilot
program
and
felt
that
if
we
could
give
some
guidance
as
to
the
businesses,
you
should
be
looking
for
for
that.
R
Specifically
for
that
pilot,
we
set
the
sort
of
the
two
years
there,
because
we
wanted
for
a
pilot
program
for
our
first
ever
instance
of
this
to
make
sure
that
we
felt
we
want
the
businesses,
naturally,
what
all
businesses
to
succeed,
but
we
want
the
businesses
to
be
in
a
position
where
they
are
established
and
they
do
have
a
couple
of
years
of
operating.
R
This
could
then
potentially
be
changed
after
a
successful
proof
of
concept,
but
we
felt
this
would
give
a
better
chance
to
the
pilot
of
success.
The
92
000
that
was
sort
of
we
worked
backwards
so
for
this
we
deemed
in
the
selection
criteria
that,
for
a
business
to
be
in
need
of
affordable
space,
the
cost
of
rent
to
that
business
should
be
40
or
greater
of
their
gross
revenue.
So
we
then
looked
the
exact
number.
We
looked
at
I'm,
afraid
of
slipping
me,
but
I
believe
it's
in
the
report.
R
E
Looking
at
the
total
occupancy
cost
at
75
percent
across
the
city,
the
numbers
in
the
in
the
memo
they
range
from
thirty
dollars
to
forty
eight
dollars,
that's
discounted,
have
you
projected
what
kind
of
tenants
are
going
to
be
able
to
afford?
Even
that
I
mean?
Are
we
simply
going
to
get
law
firms
and
accounting
firms
at
a
discount,
or
are
we
going
to
get
the
kinds
of
businesses
that
we
would
really
like
to
Foster
and
give
an
opportunity
to
I
mean
it's
not
as
if
the
rent
is
going
to
be
negligible.
N
E
I,
don't
have
the
page
handy
I
just
have
my
notes.
There
was
a
a.
E
Discussion
of
occupancy
costs
across
the
city
by
different
districts,
Boulder
Valley,
Regional,
Center,
eugid,
baseball,
Central,
Area,
General,
improvement
district.
Then,
when
you
take
75
percent
of
those
numbers,
you
get
rents,
as
I
said
between
30
and
48
dollars
and
I'm.
Just
you
know,
even
at
that
level
of
discount
I'm
concerned
that
we're
going
to
not
be
subsidizing
businesses
we
want
to
subsidize,
but
in
effect
just
making
cheaper
office
space
for
more
well-established
businesses.
R
A
R
So,
just
to
clarify
sorry
vegan
is
this
that
it's
time
to
sort
of
the
program
that
we
were
putting
forwards
you're
talking
about
in
terms
of
participants
and
making
sure
that
it's
businesses
that
we
want
there
that
they're
in
need
is
that
sort
of
the
question
that
you're
asking.
R
Okay,
yes,
so
within
the
selection
criteria,
we
we
looked
at
other
areas
as
well
and
other
requirements.
We
also
felt
that
a
selection
committee
should
be
established
for
this
and
that
there
are
the
general
guidelines
sort
of
the
40
of
your
revenues
as
as
cost
of
rent
two
years
in
business
more
than
one
employee.
R
Outside
of
that,
we
also
want
to
consider
a
big
part
of
this
as
well
was
choosing
those
businesses,
the
businesses
that
are
important
to
Boulder,
that
whole
sort
of
Boulder's
identity,
that
the
businesses
that
make
Boulder,
Bolder
and
and
that's
an
important
part.
But
it
is
quite
hard
to
quantify
so
we
felt
the
best
way
to
do.
R
This
would
be
creating
a
selection
committee
to
oversee
sort
of
the
selection
for
the
participants
into
those
units,
and
they
would
also
naturally
need
to
consider
sort
of
the
business
mix
of
the
area.
So
they
aren't
upsetting
another
business
next
door,
for
example,
if
they're
going
in.
R
E
You
can
set
out
some
numerical
guidelines,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
picking
winners
and
losers
and
I'm
not
sure.
That's
our
appropriate
function.
N
Yeah,
no
I
I
completely
hear
you
and
we
would
want
to
approach
this
in
the
most
Equitable
way
possible.
I
mean
I,
I,
think
about
the
program,
pop-up
Denver
and
how
they
have
a.
They
have
a
selection
process,
an
equitable
one
that
they
follow,
and
so
part
of
this
process
of
developing
a
program
would
be
looking
into
already
existing
programs
and
what
are
the
most
Equitable
ways
that
we
can
go
about
this
well.
E
I'm
happy
to
have
have
you
try
to
put
together
a
program
I'm
just
you
know,
raising
some
issues.
Have
you
identified
ongoing
funding
after
the
first
year
or
so
I
mean?
Is
this
going
to
be
a?
Do?
We
have
a
source
of
permanent
financing
other
than
the
city's
general
fund,
or
is
this
under
the
God
will
provide.
N
M
M
We
certainly
part
of
the
criteria
of
the
creation
of
this
program
would
be
to
focus
on
Revenue,
neutral
or
or
Revenue
positive
in
partnering.
With
these
the
businesses
that
are
selected
to
occupy
a
space,
we
certainly
would
not
want
to
be
exploring
programs
going
to
create
an
ongoing
general
fund
burden,
but
rather
a
program
that
is
is
designed
to
to
create
that
Community
benefit,
if
not
just
in
the
the
general
improvement
district.
E
And
well,
at
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
how
many,
let's
say
2
000
square
foot
spaces?
Could
we
actually
accommodate
I
mean
it
doesn't
seem
like
that's
going
to
stretch
very
far.
M
H
Thanks
Bob,
just
real
quick
I
mean
on
the
point
of
winners
and
losers,
we're
seeing
mostly
losers,
because
our
Market
is
unsustainable,
so
I'd
rather
us
be
in
the
business
where
we're
helping
those
have
a
chance
of
succeeding.
So
I
I'm,
not
sure
I
agree
with
that
sort
of
dire
State
I
take
something
over
nothing.
H
My
question
has
to
do
with
sort
of
the
market
rate
and
it
sort
of
pegs
a
little
bit
with
where
Mark
was
going
about.
Is
that
sustainable
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
own
this?
Could
we
then
Implement
our
own
sort
of
either
rent
control
or
stabilization,
because
I'm
worried
that
if
we
Peg
it
market
rate
and
yet
we'll
still
get
some
of
that
affordability?
H
On
the
other
side,
I'm
worried
if
the
market
catches
fire
we're
we're
taking
everyone
else
on
on
a
further
unsustainable
journey
and
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
Peg
things
as
a
percentage
of
market
to
keep
it
pretty
close,
but
not
quite
there
and
and
how
we
can
do
that
and
was
that
it
part
of
any
of
the
assessment
from
Charles
and
his
team
on
how
we
could
Implement
tools
that
are
prohibited
at
state
law
for
other
things.
H
N
That's
certainly
something
we
could
look
into
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
sure
if
it's
something
we
could
do
or
not.
But
at
this
point
the
proposal,
at
least
from
the
CU
team,
is
kind
of
just
talking
about
subdividing
larger
spaces
into
these
smaller
spaces
and
covering
those
overhead
operating
costs
which
would
ultimately
make
it
more
affordable.
But
that's.
H
G
Yeah
I
just
have
one
quick
question,
thanks
again
for
the
presentation
I'm
expecting
that
we're
not
going
to
be
too
committed
to
the
exact
details
that
we've
been
asking
questions
about
like
the
size,
the
length
of
the
least
how
much
percent
we're
doing
until
we
get
through
the
engagement
process.
That
will
include
a
much
broader
range
of
people.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that's
the
correct
assumption.
N
Precisely
yes,
there
is
no
developed
program
at
this
point,
we're
really
just
seeking
support
and
Direction
on
moving
forward
with
developing
a
pilot
program.
So
it
would
of
course,
include
that
thoughtful,
intentional
Community
engagement
partnering
with
a
local
community
or
organization
that
has
this
type
of
experience
to
actually
finalize
these
sort
of
details.
G
Great,
thank
you,
I'm,
really
looking
forward
to
seeing
what
what
you
all
come
up
with,
and
thanks
for
working
to
address
this
issue,
it's
a
really
important
one.
Thank
you.
D
D
D
K
Okay,
Rachel
we'll
come
back
to
you.
Maybe
when
we
do
comments,
I,
don't
see
any
other
questions.
I
do
have
two
questions
and
these
probably
fall
into
the
category
of
I.
Don't
know
which
is
perfectly
fine
answer,
but
if
you
don't
know,
Charles
or
or
Regan
I
I
ask
you
to
consider
putting
this
into
the
bucket
of
things
you're
going
to
look
at.
But
if
you
know
tonight,
that'd
be
great
to
do
one
region.
K
You
spoke
early
in
the
presentation
about
the
drivers
for
high
commercial
rants,
including
you
know,
real
estate
taxes,
increasing
costs,
especially
in
inflationary
environment
and
just
the
landlord's
General
desire
to
have
a
return
on
investment
for
its
property.
I.
K
Wonder
if
there's
a
fourth
Factor
here
and
that's
commercial
linkage
view
about
five
or
six
years
ago,
we
put
in
place
a
what
would
that
police
at
the
time
the
second
highest
commercial
lake
HP
in
the
country
where
we
charged
developers
of
commercial
property,
a
pretty
hefty
per
foot
rate,
one
time
pretty
hefty
perfect
rate
and
I
get
the
fact
that
that
was
only
applied
to
new
commercial
construction,
but
the
Builders
of
those
commercial
construction
presumably
needed
to
have
higher
rents
to
cover
that
commercial
linkage
fee
that
they
paid
on
a
one-time
basis,
which
in
turn
could
have
could
had
an
impact
on
the
market.
K
K
Thanks
Reagan-
and
this
is
probably
the
second
question
of
my
two-
probably
Falls
in
that
category
as
well-
you
had
some
pretty
dramatic
numbers
as
far
as
the
the
the
increase
in
rates
of
rents
and
I
know.
They
want
adjusted
for
inflation,
but
we
could
still.
You
know
we
can
kind
of
back
into
a
three
or
four
percent
inflation
rate
and
kind
of
figure
out
what
that
is
in
real
dollars.
But
I'm
kind
of
curious
as
to
how
we
compare
on
a
percentage
basis.
K
I
know
Boulder's
always
been
more
expensive
than
its
neighboring
cities,
but
I'm
kind
of
curious
as
to
how
we
compare
a
percentage
basis
to
our
peer
cities
and
I'm
thinking
our
peer
cities
just
up
and
down
the
Front
Range.
So
that's
really
who
we're
competing
with
for
commercial
tenants.
You
know
Longmont
and
Denver,
and
some
of
the
other
towns
up
and
down
the
Front
Range
that
businesses
can
could
choose.
If
they
were
trying
to
decide.
K
You
know
am
I
going
to
go
to
Boulder
or
am
I
going
to
go
to
Westminster
or
Denver
or
Longmont
or
whatever,
and
and
while
our
rates
started
a
baseline,
that's
higher
I'm
wondering
just
from
a
percentage
standpoint.
Are
we?
Are
we
high
in
going
up
faster
or
are
we
High
and
roughly
the
same
rate
as
our
peer
cities
in
the
Front
Range
and
again,
if
you
don't
know,
put
it
on
your
checklist.
N
M
Yeah
well,
I,
actually,
I
know
that
Charles
and
his
team
did
take
a
look
at
that.
I'm,
not
sure
if
Charles
is,
is
ready
to
speak
to
it
right
this
moment,
but
we
can
certainly
refresh
our
stats
and
thinking
around
that
question,
because
it
is
important.
R
Yeah
we
did
look
to
it,
but
I
have,
to
be
honest.
I
can't
recall
the
the
exact
findings.
It
was
possible
sort
of
preliminary
market
research
I
believe
we
included
some
of
it
in
the
memo,
but
yeah
I
can't
recall
the
exact
answers
if
I'm
honest
right
now,.
K
D
Okay,
well
I
I
kind
of
tried
to
rethink
of
them
as
as
can
you
hear
well
first,
can?
Can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,.
D
So
two
things:
first,
you
know
often
when
we're
talking
about
adding
something
to
the
work
plan.
We
we
have
a
lot
of
discussion
about
trade-offs
and
that's
a
big
you
know
like
usually
you
gotta,
let
go
of
something
if
we're
adding
something,
and
this
feels
like
something
that
we
are
a
little
bit
revisiting.
You
know
kind
of,
but
not
not
precisely,
but
from
something
we
looked
at
it
2021
and
and
I.
Remember
feeling
pretty
bummed
that
staff
have
done
a
lot
of
work
on
Community
benefits.
D
President,
you
know
look
at
affordable
commercials,
so
I
would
be
I
guess
just
two
things:
I
I
make
some
explanation
if
possible,
how
how
this
is
so
this?
How
this
got
from
planning
to
community
vitality
and
and
like
it
does
seem
also
still
Tethered
to
planning,
but
we're
not
talking
about
trade-offs
there,
and
if
we
are
kind
of
able
to
kick
things
over
to
community
Vitality
like
this
Council
have
a
choice
in
what
we
to
errors.
K
D
D
Can
take
care
of
that
foreign.
M
I'm
going
to
try
to
take
a
shot
at
answering
what
I
think
I
heard
in
that
question
is
related
to
staff
capacity
and
passing
the
Baton
of
this
work,
knowing
that
that
this
has
been
a
long-standing
conversation
in
the
community
and
largely
carried
through
conversations
around
development
and
and
the
impacts
of
of
higher
density,
commercial
development
in
the
city
and
the
impacts
that
that
has
on
viability
of
existing
businesses
that
get
displaced
so
Community
Vitality.
M
Knowing
that
our
role
in
the
community
in
supporting
that
micro,
business
Vitality
component,
particularly
in
our
general
Improvement
districts,
but
also
in
the
city
as
a
whole,
we
saw
an
opportunity
based
on
working
with
the
arpa
dollars
and
knowing
that
some
dollars
have
been
set
aside
by
my
predecessor
on
this.
This
topic,
and
that's
why
we're
here
today
we
do
see
some
space
in
our
work
plan
to
try
a
pilot
program
and
we'll
want
to
explore
that
and
make
that
happen
and
so
delighted
to
have
Regan
here
and
our
partnership
with
CU.
M
To
help
make
it
a
reality,
because
we
do
know
and
acknowledge
that
it's
coming
up
in
a
lot
of
our
sub-area
plans.
East
Boulder
Community
Plan
calls
out
the
concept
of
affordable
commercial
as
a
strategy
to
mitigate
the
challenges
of
Redevelopment,
but
we
need
to.
We
need
to
have
better
parameters
and
a
better
understanding.
What
do
we
mean
when
we
say
that
and
Community
Vitality
has
an
opportunity
right
now
to
to
try
something.
M
It
doesn't
mean
it's
necessarily
going
to
solve
all
of
our
our
problems
in
this
area,
but
we're
excited
at
this
current
opportunity
and
we'll
see
where
it
goes.
D
Well,
I'll
try
and
be
brief.
I
I
guess:
I
appreciate
that
and
I'm
I'm
supportive
I'm
still
again
just
I
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
it
makes
perfect
sense
for
us
to
not
weigh
in
on
I
guess
if
Community
Vitality
has
like
extra
time
to
add
to
the
work
plan
like
what
are
the
other
options
for
what
we
might
want
to
look
at
like
I
was
talking
about
saying,
safe
outdoor
spaces,
which
really
does
have
an
impact
on
you
know.
D
Businesses
in
in
the
areas
that
Community
Vitality
Works
in
and
like,
is
that
a
space
that
Community
Vitality
could
could
be
doing
some
work,
and
so
it
just
sometimes
it
feels
like
this
is.
This
is
something
that
we
are
are
constrained
on
in
terms
of
you
know,
staff
time
and
limits,
and
sometimes
it
it
seems
to
like
drop
out.
So
my
question
is
just
how:
how
does
that?
How
does
this
with
with
some
other
discussions,
where
we
have
to
do
the
trade-offs
so
so
athlete.
F
Thank
you
happy
to
take
a
stab
at
it.
So
a
couple
of
things
right,
there's
a
variety
of
work
plans
right,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
staff
are
doing
that
are
part
of
their
work
plan.
F
F
That
does
not
necessarily
go
to
Council
priority
areas
and
there
are
different
pieces
of
some
of
the
council
priorities
and
the
work
plans
that
we
have
that
impact
different
departments
in
different
ways
right.
This
is
something
that
Community
Vitality
certainly
has
heard
through
their
Community
conversations
with
local
businesses
and
there's
a
need.
F
That
was
a
great
opportunity
to
partner
with
CU,
and
they
have
an
opportunity
to
build
that
into
some
of
the
work
that
they
are
already
doing
slightly
different
than
perhaps
when
we're
talking
about
adding
something
to
oh
pick
on
pnds,
because
Brad's
not
here
today.
But
when
we're
talking
about
something
in
that
vein,
that
they
have
so
many
Council
priorities
that
they
are
trying
to
bring
into
fruition.
F
So
there
is
a
lot
of
work
going
on
in
the
city
and
that
conversation
about
trade-offs
and
certainly
we'll
have
the
conversation
on
safe
outdoor
spaces
is
less
involved
with
this
department,
but
requires
that
when
it
involves
a
department
like
HHS
that
has
so
much
on
their
plate,
and
so
some
of
that
is
it's
more
art
than
science,
and
it
just
depends
on
what
it
is
and
the
capacity
for
staff
to
take
on
certain
initiatives.
K
Thanks
Maria
and
Rachel,
just
texted
me
that
she's
now
offline,
her
box
still
shows
up
and
she's
she's
been
booted.
She
said
she's
gonna
check
out
for
the
night.
Let
me
suggest
this
as
we
roll
into
Nicole,
Mark
and
Tara
for
their
final
questions.
Why
don't
we
combine
questions
and
comments
if
the
three
of
you
don't
mind,
just
your
ask
your
final
questions
and
then
roll
right
into
your
there's.
Really
just
one
question,
which
is:
does
council
support
staff's
exploration
of
the
development
of
an
affordable
commercial
pilot
program?
K
G
Thanks
Bob
yeah
and
I,
just
Nuri
I
think
you
you
pretty
much
just
answered
the
question
that
I
was
going
to
ask
in
response
to
Rachel's
point,
which
is
that
we're
not
talking
here
about
the
council
work
plan
and
adding
anything
to
the
council
work
plan.
This
is
really
staff
kind
of
given
that
our
staff
are
super
creative
and
Innovative,
and
just
sort
of
recognizing
that
this
is
a
need.
It's
something
that
they
need
to
be
working
on
to
enact
their
Department
Mission.
This
is
something
that
they
are.
F
Think
that
is
correct,
and
sometimes
when
we
are
moving
forward
with
with
new
programs,
we
want
to
get
your
feedback.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
listening
to
some
of
the
conversations
you
are
likely
having
in
community,
but
this
is
an
opportunity
for
some
work
that
is
I
think
overdue
a
bit
in
terms
of
how
do
we
support
our
smaller
businesses
in
community
and
a
proposal
in
partnership
with
CU
that
staff
is
trying
to
bring
forward
and
wanted
to
hear
some
feedback.
G
G
I'm
glad
we're
going
to
be
applying
the
racial
Equity
instrument
here
and
talking
to
businesses
out
there
and
I
just
just
want
to
Echo
I'm
hearing
similar
things
to
what
you
all
are
hearing
and
that's
especially
true
for
our
minority
women-owned
businesses,
people
who
would
like
to
open
businesses,
but
the
price
of
space
is
just
prohibitive
and
they
can't
and
we're
losing
out
on
a
lot
of
innovation
and
creativity.
Because
of
that.
So
so
I'm
really
excited
about
all
of
this
one
of
the
things
and
I
don't
I'm
just
going
to
raise
this.
G
Just
something
to
think
about.
I
would
love
for
us
to
start
thinking,
not
just
how
we
are
doing
more
to
support
women
and
minority
owned
businesses.
But
how
are
we
supporting
businesses
that
are
in
line
with
the
mission
and
the
goals
that
we
have
in
the
city?
So
businesses,
for
example,
that
are
helping
us
move
toward
being
more
of
a
circular
economy,
helping
meet
some
of
our
climate
goals
like
zero
waste
businesses.
G
Those
kinds
of
things
too
I
think
this
could
be
a
really
interesting
opportunity
to
start
bringing
in
some
of
that
kind
of
thinking
of.
E
Not
a
question
if,
if
Community
Vitality
has
the
bandwidth
to
do
this,
I
am
more
than
happy
to
have
them
be
as
creative
as
they
can.
E
I
just
want
to
point
something
out,
however,
in
2021,
the
proposals
that
we
did
not
move
forward
on
were
based
upon
landlords
offering
discounts
on
their
rental
levels
in
exchange
for
consideration
in
terms
of
commercial
development,
linkage
fees,
but
it
was
the
landlords
that
were
providing
the
discounts
to
tenants.
E
I
thought
the
the
prior
proposal
in
2021
did
not
strike
the
proper
balance
between
what
we
were
getting
and
what
we
were
giving
up
in
commercial
development
linkage
fees,
but
in
some
ways
I
might
prefer
it
to
simply
turning
to
the
city
and
say
you
pay,
that's
a
little,
that's
a
very
different
concept
than
what
we
did
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
it
seems
to
me
it's
not
the
most
imaginative
way
of
going
about
this.
E
You
know,
having
us
pay
for
stuff
is,
is
sort
of
our
default
response
to
everything
and
I'm,
not
sure.
That's
the
appropriate
thing
to
do
here,
despite
the
fact
that
we
all
want
to
provide
more
affordable
commercial
space,
I'm,
just
not
sure,
you've
hit
on
the
magic
formula
yet
and
I
would
say,
go
back
and
and
keep
considering,
and
you
know,
let's
get
a
program,
that's
going
to
work
for
us
in
a
more
sophisticated
way
than
simply
saying
the
city
will
write
the
check
because
we're
always
writing
the
check.
E
So
I
I
urge
you
to
do
this.
I
urge
you
to
move
forward,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
you've,
really,
you
know,
hit
it
out
of
the
park
quite
yet.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
I
Well,
sorry,
to
disagree.
Mark
I
think
this
was
absolutely
fantastic
and
I'm
so
excited
Charles,
I'm
so
excited
about
so
many
things
you
said
one
of
them
is
the
attendance
graduating
and
the
other
one
that
is
very
exciting.
Is
the
education
part
of
this
whole
thing,
but
isn't
it
true
that
if
we
charge
market
rate
that
the
cost
won't
be
so
bad
for
the
city,
I
mean?
Isn't
that
the
reason
why
we're
charging
market
rate,
so
we
don't
lose
money.
R
That's
that's
exactly
right
and
that's
why
we
put
that
in
there,
because
we
didn't
want
it
to
be
a
huge
burden
on
the
city's
finances.
We
set
a
program
where
you
would
have
the
option
to
fund,
to
whichever
degree
that
you
saw
fit,
but
something
that
ultimately,
the
city
can
get
more
attractive
lease
terms
and
just
by
simply
breaking
the
space,
for
example,
of
2
000
square
foot,
space
into
four
pieces,
it's
more
affordable
for
all
all
four
of
those
businesses
that
are
in
that
space
because
they
can
share
the
costs
themselves.
I
Yeah,
so
it
won't
cost
us,
hopefully
anything,
maybe
it'll,
be
just
like
a
known.
You
know
just
a
net
cost,
no
difference
anyway.
I
love,
Avanti
and
I
love,
Rosetta
Hall.
Those
are
my
favorite
they're,
so
Innovative,
and
this
to
me
sounds
so
exciting.
There
is
this
Shopping
Center
in
Mid,
Florida
I
went
to
like
20
years
ago.
This
I
think
it's
called
the
flea
market
and
it's
exactly
this
concept
and
it
gives
Opera
it'll
give
the
Opera
opportunities
to
people
that
to
have
not
had
these
opportunities,
like
Nicole,
said
because
they
just
they.
I
They
have
great
ideas,
but
there's
just
no
way
for
people
to
do
anything
with
them
and
I
believe
that
if
we
remove
some
of
the
burdens,
the
rules,
the
obstacles,
all
these
things,
businesses
will
will
surprisingly
be
very
creative
and
so
I
think
this
is
I'm
so
excited
this
is
my
second
I
was
excited
about
the
first
thing.
We
talked
about
I'm
just
as
excited
about
this
I'm
happy
here
that
we
have
the
staff
capacity.
I
also
want
to
bring
up
that
I'm.
I
Pretty
sure
we
have
talked
about
this
as
a
council
that
we
have
been
talking
about
finding
ways
to
have
a
commercial
space,
that's
affordable
for
like
two
years
or
a
year
and
a
half
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
and
I'm
thrilled
to
see
you
that
you
guys
are
taking
a
part
of
it
part
of
it
and
I
want
to
end
with.
We
always
talk
about
us
being
more
welcoming
as
a
city
and
so
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
to
do
that.
E
I
I
think
that
the
triple
net
portion
of
any
lease
is
is
a
very
considerable
expense.
It
is
not
going
to
be
no
cost
to
the
city.
It's
going
to
be
a
subsidy
by
the
city
unless
we're
buying
the
building
and
of
winning
the
triple
net
cost
and
and
that's
an
extreme
expense
for
the
city,
but
if
we're
simply
leasing
it
somebody's
paying
the
triple
net
portion
of
that
lease,
whether
it's
real
estate,
taxes,
utilities,
Etc.
E
K
Hey
folks,
let's
not,
let's
have
a
debate.
Let's
just
yeah
each
person.
Girls
is
not
a
referee
here,
let's
just
you
know:
Terra
centerpiece
Mark,
you
counted
it.
Let's
it's
9
30
and
we
promised
ourselves
we'll
be
done
at
9
30..
So
let's
hear
from
Aaron
Matt
Lauren.
If
Judy
wants
a
way
and
I'll
comment
and
let's
wrap
it
up,
Aaron.
B
Great,
no
I
really
recommend
you
all
for
this
work.
I
think
this
is
an
exciting
program.
I
think
it's
very
clean,
designed
and
thought
out.
So
yes
I'm
definitely
in
support
and
just
want
to
mention
an
example
of
that
we
can
maybe
draw
some
inspiration
in.
Is
there
like
what
they
call
them?
Farmers
markets
and
like
the
Atlanta,
North
Carolina
area,
which
are
you
know,
big
buildings
and
they
have
little
stalls
with
little
businesses
and
usually
food-based
businesses
or
I?
Think
about
the
incredibly
vibrant
Mexican
markets.
B
You
know
where
again,
small
stalls
in
a
bigger
space
and
so
I
think
this
could
be
a
really
great
opportunity
for
some
members
of
our
immigrant
communities
who
might
have
a
harder
time
affording
startup
costs
for
their
own
space.
So
I
think
that
could
be
a
good
kind
of
inspiration
and
focus
for
us
as
well.
So
anyway,
I
really
like,
where
you're
going
and
look
forward
to
seeing
this
move
into
action.
H
Bob
yeah
I
think
we're
headed
in
the
right
direction
and
I
I
really
appreciate
the
thoughtfulness
and
intention
to
get
us
going
somewhere
noticing
the
need.
I'll
staff,
you've
done
a
great
job
but
I'll
say
a
special
kudos
to
Charles
and
his
team
with
CU,
Boulder
and
I'll.
Just
say
that
this
should
be
the
norm.
H
I
think
we
should
be
leveraging
our
partners
at
the
University
and
departments
with
expertise
and
engaging
what
are
clearly
going
to
be
some
some
young,
very
successful
professionals
once
they
grad
once
they
leave
their
education,
and
so,
if
it's
not
here
in
other
departments,
I
would
just
love
to
see
US
expand
that
so
neria.
However,
you
can
help
help
Foster.
That
I
think
this
is
a
great
thing
for
us
to
keep
doing
so.
Charles
and
your
team
thanks
for
blazing
the
trail
and
I
hope
we
get
to
keep
it
going.
J
Yeah
I
Echo
what
Matt
just
said?
Thank
you
so
much
for
coming
and
chatting
with
us
and
putting
this
whole
presentation
together.
We
always
talk
about
wanting
to
partner
with
CU
more
and
it's
really
exciting
to
see
it
happen.
I
love!
This
idea,
I
also
want
a
plus
one
Nicole's.
Mentioning
of
you
know
maybe
also.
P
J
At
businesses
that
are
doing
things
like
circular
supporting
our
circular
economy
goals-
oh
it's
late
and
but
then
I
also
just
wanted
to
bring
up
that.
J
You
know
because
Brad's
not
here
and
pnds,
is
so
slow
and
doesn't
have
anything
to
work
on.
If
you
know,
I
love
this
idea
of
the
smaller
commercial
spaces
and
the
sort
of
natural
affordability,
that's
sort
of
what
we're
looking
at
a
lot
on
the
residential
side.
J
Is
there
any
way
that
we
can
prioritize
developers
doing
that
on
the
commercial
side,
because
I
think
you
know
I've
seen
a
lot
of
our
commercial
spaces
right
now
have
been
designed
to
only
be
subdivided
into
fairly
large
spaces
and
I
think
that
that
is
something
we
want
to
see
taking
over
all
of
our
commercial
new
commercial
space.
Thanks.
K
Lauren
Juni
and
then
I'll
go
and
I
think
we'll
be
done.
L
K
Thanks
Jenny,
that
was
nice
and
concise.
We
appreciate
that
I'll.
Just
maybe
summarize,
my
comments
into
four
C's
I
wrote
down
four
C's,
and
this
is
the
things
I'd
like
to
to
learn
from
staff
as
they
as
they
kind
of
drill
into
this
Perseus
causes.
What
are
the
causes
of
high
rents?
I
mentioned
commercial
linkage.
Fees
could
be,
one
of
them
could
be
other
causes
I'd
like
to
understand
better.
K
What
are
the
causes
of
high
rents
number
two
comparative
I
like
to
understand:
I,
understand
that
we're
more
expensive
than
other
cities,
but
are
we
going
up
faster,
the
same
rate
as
other
cities,
and
so
that
would
be
helpful
for
me,
third,
is
the
cost
somebody's
gonna?
If
there's
a
subsidy
here
somewhere,
somebody's
gonna
pay
for
it,
whether
it's
the
landlord,
because
we
talked
about
that
a
couple
years
ago?
Maybe
it's
the
city
I
just
want
to
understand
big
picture
cost,
because
I
think
somebody
asked
a
you
know
really
good
question.
K
Well,
just
if
you
subsidize
2
000
square
feet,
you
know,
and
you
only
have
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
spend
that
doesn't
go
very
far.
So
what
would
the
costs
be
to
the
city
or
whoever's
going
to
pay
for
and
then
the
fourth
C
final
C
is
consistency,
which
is
my
cheater
way
of
saying
sustainability.
You
know
once
we
back
into
the
cost,
we're
we're
it
was
coming
from
the
city.
Where
is
it
going
to
come
from?
Is
it
100
000
years?
Is
a
million
dollars
a
year?
What
is
it?
K
What
is
it?
We
have
a
lot
of
subsidy
programs
out
there.
We
just
approve
the
guaranteed
income
program
for
low-income
families,
and,
if
we're
going
to
have
a
program,
that's
going
to
be
sustainable,
I
know
we're
going
to
have
a
five-year
pilot
we're
talking
about,
but
where
is
the
money
going
to
come
from
after
that?
So
I'd
like
to
hear
all
of
that
as
part
of
the
initial
study.
K
Those
are
my
comments.
Any
you're
right
at
9
32
we're
only
two
minutes
over
any
any
importance.
You
gotta
say
them,
because
you're
going
to
regret
it
tomorrow
morning
comments
okay,
good!
Thank
you
for
cooperation,
Charles!
Thank
you!
So
much
for
being
here.
We
really
really
appreciate
it.
Regan
you
pitched
a
double
header.
All
18
Innings,
that's
fantastic,
welcome
to
the
city
and
you
did
a
great
job,
Nuria
and
Chris.
Any
final
comments.