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2-3-21 City of Boulder Environmental Advisory Board Meeting

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder:, plan., carolyn, elam, (she/her), city of boulder:, which really gets at you know how the the city facilities infrastructure plays into supporting the community through hubs and other things, and so.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder:. You know this topic very much aligns with thinking about healthy buildings and where the sheltering sites are,- and I know it's on the mind of our folks who are leading that.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder:, but so, as you think about intersection points where these recommendations can land,, I would like that one is as well, because you know, as we think about you, mentioned libraries rec centers. Are you know, site at the.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder: alpine balsam and how those can play in supporting the community during fire events and air quality concerns,. I think, would be a great place for the ab that provide some recommendations on as well. That's great.

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Martin hoerling: so a question here from marion. I guess you know I'm on the site on different computer right now and I'm looking at the purple air.

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Martin hoerling: and one of the sites that sometimes it appears in the in the traces. You know you, click on a site, you'll get a time series of the last five days or so you can choose longer. I suppose.

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Martin hoerling: and the david skaggs research center,, which is where I work, it, is always plotted on there, I guess,, because they have a.

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Martin hoerling:, we have in that lab a an advanced instrumentation and monitoring capability.

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Martin hoerling:, but I'm just looking here, for instance, at the last four days, I'm looking at the time series of three different stations: I've chosen and there's a huge disparity.

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Martin hoerling: yeah between these timeshares- and I don't know what to make of this and I wonder, you know, there's this,, I guess, even a technical person like me, I look at this puzzle overwhelmed. What is this telling me about the air quality.

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Miriam hacker:, so again, are you looking at the purple area, site.

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Martin hoerling: yeah, I'm I'm under purple, hair so.

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Miriam hacker:, they're, very they're, very subject to where.

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miriam hacker:, the monitors are cited, and some are not cited well. The another thing that came up was that you can set your purple air monitor for either indoor or outdoor use and people set them up.

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Miriam hacker: incorrectly, like they'll, set up an outdoor one as an indoor went, use, monitor and said,. Your data is skewed because of that so there's a there is definitely room for error.

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And yeah. martin hoerling:, I mean I'm looking at a couple of times, just for the last five days. I'm scratching my head, because some of them say we had. You know your 200 parts,, you know.

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Martin hoerling: on the pm scale for the.

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Miriam hacker: oh,, maybe somebody had a fire going in their backyard for for.

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Miriam hacker:, an outdoor bbq.

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Miriam hacker: yeah.

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Martin hoerling:, this is one of these important questions: right yeah how to educate people to how they look at this data and make sense of it,. So they can make a well informed decisions off of what they see.

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Miriam hacker:, so so good is the era now website and look at those same three monitors and see what you see. Yeah.

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Brett kencairn:: what's the thing is, is probably: where would we send them? I don't think we would send them to the purple air site,. We would probably want to send it there now sorry.

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Martin hoerling: yeah so.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder:, that was something that county had flagged,. I think, is making sure you have the right filter set on that because of the,, especially the pm.

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Measurements.

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carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder: it over estimates, the concentration of fire component of the larger particulate.

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Martin hoerling:, that's a big false, positive huh yes.

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Martin hoerling:, that makes sense when I'm looking at thank you.

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Brett kencairn:, so let's keep moving now because I just want to make sure we can have enough time for the rest of the evenings conversations,. But I think what heidi, if we could just you, know, capturing the notes that we're going to definitely set up another.

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Brett kencairn: another time in the maybe in march,, maybe in april to.

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Brett kencairn: talk about the air quality pieces and develop some recommendations.

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Brett kencairn:, so this goes into that I can think justin. I can take the next two topics: kind of together.

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Brett kencairn: so,, as I think, these.

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Brett kencairn: are the.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder: best. Thank you so much yeah thank.

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Brett kencairn: you carolyn I. justin brant: will see you next month. Yeah.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder: no,. I appreciate it, thank you., martin hoerling: thank you.

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Brett kencairn: so the.

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Brett kencairn:, as we've said before, we have a date with council a study session to talk about the new climate action goals and plan.

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Brett kencairn: and that's going to be- I can't remember the date in may,, but it's in may,, so we always have to work backwards from that with document production and public input and so on.

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Brett kencairn: in I think, a previous meeting. This board suggested,, maybe with susan or others- that it would be great to meet with other boards about this, and it's very much in keeping with what he has done in the past.

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Brett kencairn:, based on where we are with the production of this document,. We wouldn't be ready for sort of multi board meeting around this until.

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Brett kencairn: april, essentially,, so one of the things we need to determine is if we call for a joint board meeting.

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Brett kencairn:, whether this board wants to meet twice in april, or whether it simply wants to meet as a part of that joint board. Meeting.

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Brett kencairn:, we will probably have to find a date that is not well,. We certainly will have to find a date. That's not when you regularly meet, because planning board also meets at the same time,, and so it wouldn't be able to.

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Brett kencairn: attend a joint board meeting and they're. One of the boards usually meet jointly with so.

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Susan peterson: any board meets on thursdays at nine.

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Brett kencairn:. Oh I'm sorry! It's landmarks that meets the same time that you do yeah that's right.,.

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Brett kencairn: so, in any event.

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brett kencairn:, assuming that we are moving towards a sort of joint board meeting, then next month's meeting will be the first meeting that we actually do with any of the advisory boards. About.

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Brett kencairn: the climate action plan that we're working on so we'll get some kind of a draft out to you,. It will be an early stage draft, which is great. That's we want to bring that to you as early as possible in the process.

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Brett kencairn:, but just to think I'm thinking out loud here, a little bit,, so we will need probably a significant amount of time for that in the march meeting and then,. If we want to bring in electrification into that, I think that's probably going to be as much time as we have in that march. Agenda.

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Brett kencairn: so.

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Justin brant: on things like those to wake up to well assuming electrification is likely, a big part of the city's kind of focus yeah.

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Brett kencairn: yeah so that,, but it also means that we'll need to do a little bit of planning together about how to manage the joint board meeting in april so.

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Brett kencairn: heidi as we're thinking about the notes for tonight we'll have those two topical discussions,, plus the the discussion about planning for that joint board. Meeting.

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Brett kencairn:. I think I wanted to double check to make sure that you all are interested in in game to try to do a joint board meeting in april,, because I'll need to start moving on. That immediately. Is that something you're all good for.

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Martin hoerling:, you know I am okay.

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brett kencairn:, so what the I'll tell you who that we typically meet with when we have joint board meetings around this stuff, I mean this case,. It might be even more,, because it is the sort of climate action plan in general, but.

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Brett kencairn: parks and rec water resources, advisory board, planning, board landmarks, board.

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Brett kencairn: opens space in mountain parks.

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Brett kencairn: army, oh tab., martin, hoerling: transportation, advisory, board.

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Brett kencairn: any, I think, that's the ones we most often cover.

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Yeah. yeah. brett, kencairn: so I'll start reaching out to the staff liaisons and all those boards and try to get something on the calendar for probably mid ish april.

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Susan peterson: right. brett kencairn:. Are you all,? How do you feel like we.

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Brett kencairn:, if we had our, I mean the advantage to having the april meeting and then having a joint board meeting in mid april would be that we would be able to actually do some planning together and think about how we're going to facilitate and manage that board. Meeting.

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Brett kencairn:: are you all game to do two meetings in april, so that we can have a little bit of planning time.

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Miriam hacker: yes.

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Miriam hacker: okay. brett kencairn:, the other good thing about that is that we will have the new board member joining in april two and so it'd be very nice to give them a little bit of an orientation before they get thrown into a joint board. Meeting.

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Brett kencairn:, so, okay, very good, so heidi will go ahead and plan on having a regular board meeting in april,, as well as the joint board meeting good.

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Susan peterson:, is it a given that we're going to have a new board member or it's just I'm.,.

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Justin brant: retiring., martin hoerling:, you retiring they're, too young.

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Justin brant:, I wish I wasn't.

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Martin hoerling: your hair's not wide enough.

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Brett kencairn: well,, and to that point we won't.

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Brett kencairn:, we don't necessarily need to..

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Brett kencairn: determine this tonight,, but we will have to determine this by next meeting with justin stepping down our our succession. Plans have been a bit.

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Brett kencairn: turned upside down because of all the ways the the the positions have been truncated, people filling spots,. So the person with the.

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Brett, kencairn: least remaining period of time is usually the person who steps into the chair role, so that when they sort of transition out as chair,, they all sort of transitioning off the board and that would then land with mr hurling as our next potential chair..

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Martin hoerling: hurling like throwing a baseball. brett kencairn: early, I'm sorry. brett kencairn:. So marty, are you: are you open to serving as chair.

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Martin hoerling:, of course I'm not.

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martin hoerling:, but it sounds like you need to have a chair.

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Miriam hacker:, I thought matt mike was. miriam hacker: intending to do it.

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Justin brant: well,, I mean he was, he was supposed to do it, and then I took it from him,. So I feel, like I mean I agree it sort of marty's the next in line but.

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Brett kencairn: well,, michael habits.,.

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Justin brant: fan very disappointed. brett kencairn:, see mike will then be back into the sequence, to be the chair following monday.

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Miriam hacker: okay.

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Brett kencairn:, so just if it goes as it's sort of sequence to go,, it would be marty than mike,. Then you miriam and then susan okay.

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Martin hoerling: well you're, just let me know what you want me to do. brett kencairn: okay, good. Well, I'm delighted that you aren't completely resisting because we would love to have you play play in that role.

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Martin hoerling: nicely done.

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Brett kencairn: so marty. What we will do is the chair and I always have a sort of agenda meeting the week before the actual word meeting. So.

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Brett kencairn: we'll we'll set up something to make sure it's. Okay with you marty to join justin, and I for the march meeting.

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Justin brant: that.

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Miriam hacker: we have to have. justin brant: possibility is for temporary.

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Justin brant: then.

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Miriam hacker:: we have to have a send off for brett justin to.

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Brett kencairn:, oh yes,, we will.

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Miriam hacker: yes, I. brett kencairn: will I'm.

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brett kencairn: heidi, and I will figure out some appropriate.

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Brett kencairn: no pies in the face, I promise.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder:, it's got to be a coven style, send off a.

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Justin brant: little hire somebody to come to my house and.

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Martin hoerling: we'll give you a good shot in the arm.

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brett kencairn: right yeah. Maybe the best.

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Justin brant: miss my opportunity to jump the coven vaccination landa. The end point number, my god, city, government.

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Brett kencairn: right worker here.

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Brett kencairn: so well, I think, actually,. That was the majority of what I wanted to cover.

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Brett kencairn: on the so what so? There will be something set out to you in a packet form in this upcoming board meeting for march, so a week ahead. Watch for something that will be some very draft version.

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Brett kencairn: of what we're working on as a as a as a document. I do want to emphasize that the way we're thinking about this.

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Brett kencairn: document that we're producing is as a kind of more like update than a sort of three year plan,, partly because we can't do the kind of community engagement,. We would normally want to do to do a kind of plan and partly because I think the the.

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Brett kencairn:, the the sense that we're starting to have in terms of climate action planning is that it's almost more a continuous process, things are changing so quickly. Now it's really.

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Brett kencairn: almost ridiculous to think that we're going to develop a three year plan,, because everything is going to change so much,, even within the context of a year. So.

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Brett kencairn:, just to kind of prepare you for that. What you're going to get is going to look probably a little bit more like an update with a really strong emphasis on how we need to be shifting our goals based on the new knowledge of where things are at so..

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Brett kencairn: good. brett kencairn: heidi, am I forgetting anything that we want to make sure we covered tonight.

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Heidi joyce:, um nothing else picks up import good. I guess.

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Heidi joyce:, as we're thinking about the discussion.

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Heidi joyce:, from march to develop recommendations on the air quality piece. If there's any process that we can lay out in advance that will help.

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Heidi joyce:, you that's a session, I don't know if there's any pre work,, we need to do, but.

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Heidi joyce:, just thinking about the best way to have to develop the recommendations that next what's.

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Brett kencairn: your what I was just thinking, though, is that we may we may want to be able, since, since the board's willing to meet in april twice and we're going to have a regular april meeting.

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Brett kencairn:: let's do this miriam? Why don't you and I just make sure we get something on the calendar for after next week.

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Brett kencairn:, you kind of step back from everything, you're seeing and decide kind of what we think the next best steps are, and then we can decide whether we want to try to bring that forward in march or april..

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Brett kencairn: of it may be that we just want to make sure we have plenty of plenty of time to really have a good long discussion before we developed that recommendations. Piece.

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Okay.

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Miriam hacker: it just out of curiosity, is carolyn also participating in the original.

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Miriam hacker: discussion.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder: yes,. I was planning to be there,, at least for the majority of the conversation I have one conflict,. I have to step away for but.

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Miriam hacker: okay, thank you.

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It's great.

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Brett kencairn:, alright, well anything else, that the board, would like to bring forward and I'd stay a little time. Susan.

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Susan peterson: yeah, I had two issues. Actually, the first one is um.

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Susan peterson:, you know,, we are in a transition with our city manager, and it was recently brought to my attention that when, at least the last set of criteria that were shared with that was shared with the public.

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Susan peterson:, with regard to the city manager, requirements, didn't really have anything about environment or climate change or selecting a candidate who has any kind of environmental ethic or background, or action and um.

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Susan peterson:, I actually think as an environmental advisory board,, we should be making a recommendation to.

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Susan peterson:, I don't know if it's council or human resources or whomever that says hey, we want to make sure you bring bring somebody in who has some kind of track. Record.

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Susan peterson: in climate action, in whatever city they've likely to come from because there's nothing in the job description right now that addresses that.

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Susan peterson: and I wondered how other board members thought about that.

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Miriam hacker:. I would fully support that if there's some way to relay that to, I don't know who would we relay that to.

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Brett kencairn: well,, one of the ways, just for the boards information,. One of the ways the board can communicate with council is to draft something from the board to counsel and then.

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Brett kencairn: one of the ways in the past, any way that boards would share, that is, that they would have a representative go to a city council, meeting.

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Brett kencairn: and during the open comment period, say I'm x, representing the so and so bored and wanted to make sure that you saw this recommendation that we have for you,. So you can both send something into them.

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Brett kencairn:, but then also you could have a board member make sure that that was heard through a public process.

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Martin hoerling:, it's funny, I'm just looking at a.

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martin hoerling: particular list of qualifications being called for for a city manager vacancy it's not in our community,, but it has.

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Martin hoerling:, it has six items on there. Five five years of prior experience and local government,, a bachelor's degree in political science and business administration, public administration or related field must possess good character and integrity.

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Martin hoerling: hard to come by nowadays right strong planning skills. Now here,, you might say,. Well, that's pretty broad umbrella. I'm planning skills could involve. You know environmental recognition of what you plan around for resilience.

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Martin hoerling: customer oriented and experience and community development there's another one,. So no, no we're just broad list here that a person could easily fit in be qualified and without calling out climate explicitly,. I guess, a little my point.

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Susan peterson: yeah, but for this specific community it seems to me that somebody with a strong environmental ethics.

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Susan peterson:, for this specific community at this specific time,, as you say, brett things are changing, so quickly, right now, having somebody who has that you know.

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Susan peterson:, in the in the front of their mind,, and we did have qualifications, like you know, we want somebody who has experience in equity and social justice, also an important issue,, but I think we need to like.

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Susan peterson: make them think k,. We need somebody who's really in tune with this community's desire to be leaders in rebuilding our climate, situation.

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Justin brant:, where you have the. justin brant: requirements to share. I guess I'm a little hesitant to vote on something. I know I mean I trust susan's characterization of it,, but I haven't read any of the her followed me of this.

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Susan peterson: yeah, but what I was just gonna say I haven't seen the requirements, since the first draft came out and then they asked for community input, and I know I my community input. That's one of the things that I said was that I wanted to see. More.

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Susan peterson: requirements that somebody had taken climate action in the past.

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Susan peterson:, but I haven't seen it since then, and I got on the website today and tried to find the requirements and couldn't,. So I would suggest the first step would be brett if you could either.

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Susan peterson: find the requirements for us or point me to the person who has those requirements and let's at least first validate that you maybe that was added. Maybe they read my feedback.

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Susan peterson: and added it. susan peterson:, but if it wasn't,, then I would be happy to.

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Susan peterson: draft the letter that I could. miriam hacker: circulate season.

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Miriam hacker:, it's it's on the website. I just look. It's listed as a open job for the city of boulder and there's a whole brochure attached to it.

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Susan peterson:, I look today and did not see that that's interesting.

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Brett kencairn:: do you see in that.

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brett kencairn: miriam any mention of this, or is that something we just need more time to spend.

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Miriam hacker:: it's pretty big is.

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miriam hacker: city manager, position.

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susan peterson: miriam. Could you just send the link out.

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Miriam hacker: can I can do that and zoom can I.

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Susan peterson: can we can all just click on it., martin hoerling:, you just need to do. A google search on city of boulder city manager comes right, up.

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Martin hoerling: I'm reading it. well. martin hoerling:, here's their price.

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Susan peterson:, I will take the action to read that tomorrow.

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Susan peterson: my.

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Martin hoerling: number one: how did you. martin hoerling: candace manager deal coven the community.

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Miriam hacker: yeah.

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martin hoerling:, a higher. susan peterson: response,. Do you see anything about the environment on it.

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Martin hoerling: yeah climate change initiatives that the fully address our climate change initiatives to ensure quality of life,. It says explicitly yeah.

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Susan peterson: awesome good. It's there.

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Yeah. susan peterson: well, and hopefully I'm not the only one who brought that up.

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brett kencairn:, so it.

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Martin hoerling: looks like it's there.: miriam hacker: looks like there's.

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Miriam hacker: a link to the climate change.

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martin, hoerling: and they.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder: should all think jonathan because he also heard you.

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Carolyn elam (she/her), city of boulder: raise that to the recruiter so.

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Martin hoerling:, thank you carolyn. It looks like the person who hires that have to get a walk on water consistently, both 300.

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Susan peterson: hey. susan peterson: second suggestion I have since that. First one happened so quickly was you know we came up with these five suggestions for city. Council.-.

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Susan peterson:, but maybe it's the business person in me, I'm like okay,. Are we going to take that the next step to setting some objectives in each of those areas.

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Susan peterson:, because I'm so impressed with the progress that miriam's made on air quality, and you know, we've kind of got some action going there,. But I know I raised my hand and said that I, you know,, I was interested in the excel partnership and I applied for that.

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Susan peterson: advisory panel today, I won't know until the end of the month,, whether I gone,, but it seems like in each of those five areas,. We should have some objectives as a board so that we aren't just waiting for city council to ask us a question, but rather are.

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Susan peterson:, you know, trying to move some initiatives forward and I,. You know I don't. I don't know that we can establish the objectives tonight,, but I wondered how people felt about that.

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Brett kencairn:. My only comment really susan on that. I entirely agree about liking, this sort of see how we're going to move forward. Something.

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Brett kencairn:, you have sort of a very,, very big topic,, one of the most important to ea, be coming forward, starting next month, and then essentially the follow up to that in april,. So I think that you.

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Brett kencairn: will have a big piece of your core work to do in the next couple months,. So it might be something to look at post,. The main meeting with council, when whatever happens with the climate action plan, will have been done.

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Susan peterson: all right, yeah. I think I believe in the last meeting we each sort of chosen area that we were going to be a part of,, and you know we can each just select some objectives and put them forth to the board and see if, if people like them.

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Susan peterson: like to not lose that topic.

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Miriam hacker:, the other thing that you had suggested in our last meeting with that we each try to make a tie, with one of the other boards.

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Miriam hacker: and susan peterson: I've only volunteered for planning board.

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Susan peterson: right um and as as lynn siegel pointed out,, I haven't gone to one of their meetings,. Yes I.

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Susan peterson: put them all on my calendar three times a month,, so I'm going to start being the liaison to planning board unless somebody else wants to do that because I do think. That's a super important one.

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Miriam hacker: right and I indicated that I would try to attend some of the.

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Miriam hacker: transportation board meetings, um.

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Miriam hacker:, but I don't know if marty or or mike, had made it well mike, was part of the greenway planning.

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Miriam hacker: yeah.

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Susan peterson:, I think we should assign mike to like three or four boards, since you.

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Justin brant: meet the most often.

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Susan peterson:, you get volunteered.

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Miriam hacker:, so I don't know, I think.

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miriam hacker:. Might you can think about if there's another board that piques your interest and.

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Martin hoerling:, you want to participate, I'm open for a suggestion. I really haven't delved into that. So I appreciate you bringing this up, and if you guys have some board in mind.

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Brett kencairn:, I think the boards there's two that we have strong strong intersections with o s, amp p and parks.

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And right yeah.

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Miriam hacker:: I think it would be important for us to be involved with open space certainly.

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Justin brant: and protect rapid also fit well into your expertise, meaning,. You know.

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Martin hoerling:, which ones which the other one.

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Justin brant: wrap the water resources advisory, board.

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Brett kencairn: yeah. Well, let's revisit that particular piece. Next month, well, we have both our new board member.

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Brett kencairn:, we have a new program, no such as april.

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Miriam hacker: april yeah.

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Justin brant:, you can, at least in signed them work before this started. Next.

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Susan peterson:, do you think,, for instance, I'm just going to start going to the planning board meetings. Should I make planning board.

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Susan peterson:, the chair, aware that you know I'm interested in issues as they relate to ea be, and then I'm going to be there just.

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Susan peterson: go there's miriam reach out to tab.

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Brett kencairn:, I think it's useful for the other boards to to know that there is a desire to be connected. We don't have formal liaison relationships and I don't anticipate that that's going to be sanctioned or or encouraged.

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Brett kencairn:, but I do think that it's important to try to keep you know. Awareness between them,, especially as big issues, come through the system.

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Susan peterson:, all right, and maybe I'll just send an email to planning board and introduce myself and I'll copy. You all, and just say just fyi, I'm going to be attending your meetings and.

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Susan peterson: maybe raising issues as they relate to be.

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Justin brant:, thanks for taking on on.

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Brett kencairn:, so I think that's it from the stuff that staff wanted to bring forward tonight. Justin.

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Justin brant: great um was there anything else. Folks want to.

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Justin brant: talk about before we adjourn.

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Miriam hacker:, I guess I'm just do you want us to report,, I mean. Does the board want me and brett and carolyn to report back on this meeting that that happens? Tomorrow, I mean I can.

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Justin brant:, I can put together a really great um., justin brant: yeah. I don't know if it's easier to just.

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Justin brant: send an email right after it happens to stay up on it, or if we., justin, brant: yeah. If there's important stuff and it's worth talking about it,, the next meeting could probably talk cover some time but yeah definitely interested in.

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Justin brant: getting an email and just understanding what was said in where things are going. Okay.

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Justin brant:, maybe we can go from there about that agenda and it sounds like.

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Justin brant:, you might have a pretty packed agenda for march already.

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Justin brant:, but I mean it seems like if we move, you know, I'm not going to you guys to listen to me anymore,, but if.

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Justin brant: you're moving forward with spending the work to lead us to all these boards or other groups that you know we get to carve out a standing agenda item to report back at each meeting. So.

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Justin brant: and discuss what's going on, just so, can not lose that. Are you know that the board can understand? You know that we're reporting out and getting some value as a whole board from that was fairly significant effort. On.

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Martin hoerling:, I just wanted to raise one thing.

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Martin hoerling: now, in looking at the rate of progress in dealing with energy from renewable and replacing coal and diesel and dirty fuels that are especially.

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Martin hoerling: heavy hitters, I think the pace at which this is occurring is catching quite a few people by surprise.

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Martin hoerling:, you know,, you probably heard the gm announcement very you know very proactive that they want to replace their gas engine cars with all electric in 15 years. That's aspirational, but they're pretty much dedicated to doing it.

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Martin hoerling: and I wouldn't be surprised if they get closer,, especially policy, helps them along the economics of all of this is: what's driving a lot of.

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Martin hoerling: the the actions,. I think the cost points are making this increasingly more effective to to electrify the grid with renewable energy as a source, or certainly remove coal increasingly rapidly from the grid,. The thing I don't want to forget, though, is.

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Martin hoerling: is that as an environmental advisory board, we're not just about a climate change, environmental advisory board,, so you know this was really refreshing today to talk about internal home.

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Martin hoerling: air quality, having.

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Martin hoerling: electric replace gas burning, stove tops, for instance,, but then you're. Also there are these events that occur naturally occur,. They will continue to apprentice back resilience.

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Martin hoerling: and not letting our guard down being prepared for the flood or the which may affect water treatment,, especially as communities keep growing,, and we have less buffers.

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Martin hoerling:, so a lot is, as populations naturally grow. We become more exposed to the natural, very abilities of the environment,, not necessarily to climate change. Alone.

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Martin hoerling: and,, and so it's just an awareness of keeping the eye on the ball, that natural hazards, happen, naturally.,.

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Martin hoerling: and sometimes the gaps between the significant hazard,, maybe decades,, but the community has moved itself into a vulnerable position. I didn't realize.

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Martin hoerling: existed, because they haven't experienced that hazard,, and so I think any ab also needs to be aware of that and keep that in the crosshairs of things we speak about.

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Brett kencairn: yeah marty,, thank you for that, and one of the things that you'll see in the new climate action draft that we're developing is that we're saying climate action, now.

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Brett kencairn: is not just about emissions management, it's about preparing for climate change and climate disruption, and I know marty what you're also calling out,, which is, irrespective of climate change, there's.

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Brett kencairn: natural variation and disruption that will endanger our county, so this issue of how are we resilient to change is a really important one, and it's it's one. That.

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Brett kencairn: we've struggled a little bit in the city to know kind of where it lives.

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Brett kencairn: or where you know broadly it lives and and also that there isn't necessarily citizens advisory board watching over the resilience of the community,. So I think that you're right to say that this is a unique.

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Brett kencairn: role for the ea be to play.

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Brett kencairn: well,. I do think that a unique feature of justin brands leadership is that we've more frequently than able to it, and both on time, or even a little bit early so.

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Justin brant:, I think I provided presided over the only gap meeting that went well beyond it. So.

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Brett kencairn:, that's that's the.!.

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Justin brant: black mark on my time as chair.

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Justin brant: I've also only provided against presided over virtual meetings, which are.

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Brett kencairn:, that's interesting., justin brant:, different role, um but yeah. I guess. If there's nothing else, we can.

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Justin brant: see everyone in a month.

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Justin brant: okay, by raising your hands.

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Susan peterson:, that's by., susan peterson:, a nice evening, yep yep.

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Martin hoerling: hi everybody.

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Miriam hacker: hi.