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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
the
city
has
engaged
with
community
members
to
co-create
a
vision
for
productive,,
meaningful,
and
inclusive
civic
conversations..
This
vision
supports
physical
and
emotional
safety
for
community
members,
staff
and
board,
and
commission
members,
as
well
as
democracy.
for
people
of
all
ages,
identities,
lived
experience,
150.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
the
following
are
examples
of
rules
of
decorum
found
in
the
boulder
revised
code
and
other
guidelines
that
support
this
vision..
These
will
be
upheld
during
this
meeting
all
remarks
and
testimony
shall
be
limited
to
matters
related
to
city
business..
No
participant
shall
make
threats
or
use
other
forms
of
intimidation
against
any
person,,
obscenity,
racial
epithets,
or
other
speech
and
behavior
that
disrupts
or
otherwise
impedes
the
ability
to
conduct
the
meeting
are
prohibited.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
individual
must
display
their
whole
name
before
being
allowed
to
speak
online.
and
currently
only
audio
testimony
is
permitted.
Online.,
and
I
would
just
say
there
are
a
couple
of
participants
here.
This
evening.,
if
you're
planning
to
speak,,
please
do
go
in
and
edit,
so
that
your
full
name
is
displayed,
and
not
just
part
of
your
name.
C
marcy,
gerwing,
principal
planner:.
There
we
go..
So
when
the
time
comes
for
folks
to
speak.,
you
can
either
hit
all
y
on
a
pc
or
option
y
on
a
mac
or
star
9..
If
you're
calling
in
on
a
phone
or
under
the
reactions
menu,
there
is
that
raised
hand
function.
and
we'll
get
plenty
of
time
for
you
to
find
that..
So
welcome
to
this
virtual
meeting,
and
that
wraps
up
the
decor.
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Abby
daniels:
thank
you,
mark,.
We
know
there
are
people
who
are
here
to
participate
this
evening
that
may
have
strong
emotions
about
particular
projects..
We
want
to
hear
from
you,
and
we
have
found
it
more
protective.
if
you
are
speaking
to
persuade
us,
rather
than
berating
us,
staff
or
the
applicant,.
As
with
regular
landmarks,
board
meetings,,
you
may
only
speak
at
the
appropriate
time
during
the
public
hearing.
Request
to
speak
outside
of
those
times
will
be
denied.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
alright.
speak!
thank
you.
so.
yes..
Now
is
the
opportunity..
If
you'd
like
to
speak
to
an
item,
that's
not
a
public
hearing.
This
evening.
go
ahead
and
and
find
the
race
hand
function..
I
see
2
speakers,
abby..
The
first
is
lynn
siegel,.
The
second
is
patrick
o'rourke..
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Lynn
segal:,
but
it's
not,
and
it
didn't.,
and
now
it's
re
receiving
a
lot
of
hassle
in
the
community,
and
nobody
can
play
tennis
anymore..
They
have
to
commute
to
come
play
tennis.,
it's
it's
just
not
acceptable..
What's
what's
happened
in
that
space.,
and
so
I
don't
trust
landmarks
board
to
do
the
next
thing,.
Do
the
right,
thing.
I
Lynn,
segal:
you
know,
unpleasant,
looking
building,
with
300
square
feet,,
you
know,
rented
by
the
bedroom
at
the
millennium..
It
it
it's
just
dollar
signs
everywhere,
and
it's
not
integrity
anymore
for
the
community.
and
that's
what
the
landmarks
board
is
about
is
preserving
the
integrity
of
our
historical.
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Patrick
orourke:,
the
reason
patrick
orourke:,
the
landmarks
board
or
james
hewett,,
recommended
that
the
city
council
not
approve
it
were
3,
reasons.
one,,
the
hip
wasn't
time.
number
2.
they
wanted.
A
collaboration
in
number
3
is
that
he
felt
it
would
be
better
or
holistically
done
in
a
historic
district.
J
J
Patrick
orourke:,
is
she
questioned,
the
motive
of
the
people
that
had
put
the
application,
in.
and
the
reason
she
questioned?
The
motive
is
because
of
the
2,015
comprehensive,,
and
that
was
done
for
that
whole
area,
which
is
disappointing,
because
that
was
questioning,
and
the
motivation
of
the
people
involved
was
unacceptable.
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Leonard
segel:
get
folder
to
showcase
itself
in
the
best
way
possible,
and
to
get
attention
to
boulder
preservation
in
the
way
that
we
think
would
serve
this
community
and
the
board
in
in
the
city..
So
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say
tonight.
and
it
other
than
please
reach
out
to
me.
and,
let's
maybe
not.,
maybe,
let's
put
together
a.
a
meeting
to
try
to
brainstorm
some
ideas.
Soon.
okay.
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Kathryn
barth:,
I
don't
know.,
I
think
it
should
be
required
me
reading,
or
we
should
put
it
on
the
buses
or
something.,
but
it's
it..
It
was
really
good.
and
I
think
I'm
glad
we
read
it.
and
we
have
a
good
program
in
this
town,
and
we
just
have
to
be
faithful
to
it..
So
thank
you
so
much,
marcy,
for
all
your
work.
So
many
years
ago,
and
we
are
still
at
it.
thanks
again,
everybody.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
and
I
don't
see
anyone
else
with
their
hand,
raised
for
open
comment.
This
evening,
so
I'll
just
give
it
a
little
more
time..
If
you
there's
anyone
else
who
would
like
to
speak
to
something.,
that's
not
a
public
hearing.
This
evening.
go
ahead
and
use
the
raise
hand,
function.
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Katie
peterson
cpi:
good
evening,
everybody..
My
name
is
katie
peterson..
I
am
the
endangered
places
program
director
for
colorado
preservation
in
I
just
want
to
echo
leonard
statement..
Here
we
are
so
thrilled
to
have
our
conference
in
boulder
again
next
year,
and
we'd
love
to
work
with..
I
know
I've
been
talking
with
mercy,
and
she's
been
absolutely
amazing.,
so
I'd
love
to
work
with
the
the
landmarks
board.
and
if
you
have
any
questions,,
please
feel
free
to
email
me.
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abby
daniels:
okay.
and
I
just
want
to
make
a
very
quick
comment
about
what
leonard,,
bob,
and
katie
just
said..
One
idea
off
the
top
of
my
head..
I
believe
in
2,024.
the
landmarks,
I
mean
the
preservation
program
in
the
city
of
boulder
celebrates
its
fiftieth
anniversary,.
So
we
might
find
a
way
to
weed
that
in
to
something
during
the
conference..
So
we
now
will
officially.
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C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
we
had
2
meetings,
one
virtual
one
on
site.
in
april.
in
may,
the
landmarks
board
voted
to
hold
a
day
of
demolition,,
but
a
hearing
prior
to
the
day
of
demolition
expiring..
This
one
is
moving
towards,.
I
think,
a
positive
outcome
of
preserving
the
alley
side
of
the
building.,
and
so
the.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
applicant
team,
is
still
working
on
getting
a
revised
set
to
propose
partial
demolition
rather
than
full
demolition,,
and
they
asked
for
additional
time.,
and
so
we
signed
a
tolling
agreement
to
extend
the
timeline
in
june,
and
then
an
extension
in
july..
So
currently,
this
day
of
demolition
expires
on
september
fourteenth,
and
so
we
would
expect
a
hearing
in
september.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
then
the
next
one.
claire,,
if
you
don't
mind
going
to.,
the
next
slide
is
1918,
pine
street..
This
is
a
public
hearing
later
on
this
evening.,
the
landmark's
board
put
a
save
demolition
on
the
application
in
april,
and
then
in
june,.
The
board
voted
to
hold
a
hearing.
prior
to
the
stay
expiring.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
the
preservation
of
the
house,
but
also
potential
to
expand
it.,
so
the
owner
has
withdrawn
the
full
demolition
request.,
and
so
this
day
of
demolition
has
been
is
no
longer,
and
later
this
evening
the
board
will
consider
initiation
of
landmark.
Designation.,
though
our
recommendation
is
based
on
the
state,,
the
application
being
withdrawn.
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C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
stay
of
demolition
has
come
up
with
an
outcome
where,
in
my
opinion,,
it's
still
successful,,
even
though
the
building
won't
be
designated,
it
will
be
preserved.
but
outside
of
the
program.
I
think
that
this
is
a
pretty
unique
building,
in
that
it
is
very
utilitarian,
and
the
front
of
the
building
actually
faces
the
alleyway.
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A
Abby
daniels:
the
landmarks
board
members
who
have
signed
up
for
various
properties..
I
think
recently
this
days
of
demolition
in
the
meetings,
and
what
has
happened
during
those
have
been
some
of
the
most
successful
I've.
Seen
in
the
years.
I've
been
involved
with
the
landmark
sport
in
one
fashion
or
another.
and
so,
you
know,,
I
I
just
think
there'
been
some
great
outcomes,
and
I
just.
A
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
kind
of
understood
what
the
process
is,
and
have
come
into
it
with
open
minds.
and
then
the
landmarks,
board
members
who
have
volunteer
to
represent
the
board
have
come
up
with
some
really
creative
alternatives..
And
I
would
agree
that
these
3
from
this
year
have
been
some
of
the
most
productive
use
of
this
day
of
demolition,
which.
A
A
Abby
daniels:
gillardi,
elaine,
and
my
apologies..
If
I
mispronounce
that
you
guys,,
we
moved
here
from
san
francisco,
and
I
keep
wanting
to
say,
gear
delay,
lane,
in
the
chautauqua
historic
district.,
pursue
it
to
section
9,
1118
of
the
boulder
revised
code
1,981,
and
under
the
procedures
prescribed
by
chapter
one,,
dash,
3.,
quasi
judicial
hearings,,
brc.,
1,981,,.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:
no.
abby
daniels:
and
I
actually
did..
I
did
go
to
this
site
and
look
at
it
on
monday,
may
fifteenth,
just
prior
to
the
square
nails.
ceremony
awards
ceremony,
celebrating
national
historic
preservation
month,,
and
there
were
a
few
people,
cottagers
and
people
who
lived
at
chatauqua,,
who
are
also
there.
When
I
was
looking
at
the
site.
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:
does
not
adversely
affect
the
historic
architectural
value
of
the
property,.
The
architecture,
arrangement,
texture,
color,
arrangement
of
color
and
materials
are
compatible
with
the
character
of
the
property,
and
that
the
landmark's
board
considers
the
economic
feasibility
of
alternatives,
incorporation
of
any
g
efficiency
design
and
enhanced
access
for
the
disabled.
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:.
The
options
today
for
the
landmark
board
are
to
approve
the
application..
This
is
subject
to
a
16
day.
City
council
call
up
period
which
we
had
to
extend
to
the
next
city
council
meeting..
So
if
city
council
would
like
to
review
the
application,,
they
will,
let
us
know
at
their
august
third
meeting.
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:,
because
this
is
an
after
the
fact
review..
If
the
board
finds
the
fence
removal
to
not
meet
the
guidelines
and
denies
the
application,,
the
city
would
require
that
the
chain
link,
fence
be
reinstalled
in
the
same
location,
and
a
denial
would
mean
that
the
applicant
could
not
submit
the
same
application
to
remove
the
fence
within
12
months..
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P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob::
you
might
not
be
able
to
see
it
in
this
image,,
but
if
you
look
closely
at
this
one,,
you
can
see
the
would
post
some
wires
in
both
this
one,.
This
image
and
the
image
from
around
1,925.
we're
not
super
sure
on
the
date
of
this
one..
This
is
to
the
cottage
2
11..
This
is
galadia
lane,,
which
at
the
time
went
all
the
way
through.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:,
as
the
change
is
consistent
with
the
general
design
guidelines,
and
the
chatauqua
park,
historic
district
design.
Guidelines,.
We
considered
that
the
removal
of
the
fence
does
not
adversely
affect
the
special
character
or
special
historic,
architectural
and
value
of
the
property.
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:,
so
in
summary,
in
this
case,
the
staff
considers
the
removal
of
the
fence
appropriate
due
to
the
following
factors,.
The
wooden
wire
fence
is
shown
on
photographs
no
longer
exists..
The
chain
link
fence
was
installed
during
outside
the
period
of
significance.,
probably
in
the
late
1970,
s.
or
eighties.
P
P
Clare,
brandt,,
cob:
and
the
work
does
not
adversely
affect
the
special
character
or
special
historic,
architectural
and
value
of
the
landmark
property,,
as
it
is
generally
consistent
with
the
shtaker
park,
design,
guidelines,
and
we'll
comply
with
section
2.6
of
the
general
design
guidelines.
In
section
211.
dash,
18
b,
3
of
the
boulder
revised
code.
P
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:.
The
question
in
front
of
the
board
today
is
whether
the
removal
of
the
fence
meets
the
standards
for
issuance
of
a
landmark
ortration
certificate..
If
yes,,
you
should
approve
the
application
conditions
may
be
discussed
and
added
to
the
approval.
If
needed,,
if
no
deny
the
application.
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jason
hill:
thanks
everyone.
good
evening.
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
me..
My
name
is
jason
hill.,
I'm
the
chief
operating
officer
for
the
colorado
chicago
association.,
I've
I've
been
with
the
organization
for
5
years
now..
I
have
a
few
things
to
say
tonight,,
but
I
I
don't
plan
on
taking
the
entire
10
min..
So
I
I
wanted
to
start
by
saying
that,.
As
I'm
sure
most
of
you
know,.
R
Jason
hill:
cca.
submits
anywhere
between
5
to
10,
l.
a.
c's,
every
year,
oftentimes
more
and
you
know,
as
stewards
of
of
buller's.
Only
national
historic
land
work..
We
take
preservation
very
seriously
and
work
closely
with
landmark
staff
to
ensure
that
we
are
hearing
to
the
guidelines
and
requirements
for
maintaining
and
preserving
chatauqua,,
which
is
in
constant
need
of
of
care
and
attention..
R
Jason
hill:
regarding
the
fence,
we're
here
to
discuss
tonight.
despite
being
very
familiar
with
the
lac
process,
cca
was,
was
unaware
that
la
seems
required
to
remove
the
4
link.
Channeling
4
foot,
shaling,
fence.
specifically,,
the
administrative
review.
guidelines
require
review
of
fencing
with
the
following
language,
rear
our
side
yard
fences..
There
are
less
than
5
feet
high
and
have
a
minimum
of
one
inch
spacing
between
pickets.
R
Jason
hill::
the
guidelines
imply
that
approval
is
needed
to
remove
wood
and
pick
it
fences
under
5
feet,,
but
they
don't
necessarily
address
other
types
of
fencing,,
including
the
the
chain
link,
fencing
question,,
which
is
considered,
you
know,
generally
inappropriate..
We
we
understand
that
level.
2
review
covers.
R
Jason
hill:
everything
other
than
what's
defined
in
the
administrator
of
you.,
but
there's
there's
still
an
implication
of
for
wooden
fencing..
Although
there
are,
there
are
no
other
chain
link
fences
that
should
taco
outside
of
the
tennis
court
area..
We
think
it
would
be
helpful
if,
if,
if
landmarks
for
could
clarify.
R
R
R
R
R
R
Jason
hill:
we
remove
the
fence
surrounding
the
garden,
and
we're,
in
fact,,
careful
not
to
destroy
plant
material
within
the
garden
itself..
This
was
a
perennial
flower,
guarded
and
annual
vegetable
garden,
encompassing
a
relatively
small
area,,
and
that
started
sometime
from
what
we
can
understand.
The
1980
s.
R
Jason
hill:,
it's
also,,
to.,
jason
hill:.
I
think,
important
important
to
address
claims
that
the
garden
was
historic
as
described
in
detail
in
the
packet
prepared
by
landmark
staff.
tonight.
The
sp.
in
question
has
had
a
variety
of
uses
over
many
decades,,
including
during
the
period
of
significance,,
and
was
not,
from
our
view,
considered
a
stroke
at
the
time
of
the
fence
removal,
and
I
don't..
I
think
that
that's
the
sentiment
that
I'm
hearing
from
staff
as
well.
R
Jason
hill:,
nor
is
it
considered
a
historic
feature
in
cca's
nhl.
application
outside
of
the
boulder
wall..
That's
construction
and
constructed
in
front
of
cottage
200.,
nor
is
it
mentioned
in
the
co.
cultural
landscape,
assessment
and
plan
and
stock
was
design
guidelines..
These
are
governing
documents
that
we
visit
daily
and
that
help
guide
our
work.
R
R
Jason
hill:
development,
outreach,
educational
opportunities..
We
have
drawn
some
preliminary
plans.
We
will
be
submitting
them
to
the
building
and
grounds
committee..
It
should
talk.
Was
we
always
do
for
review
before
bringing
them
to
the
full
landmarks
board
for
final
approval
in
the
coming
months.
R
Jason
hill:
lastly,.
I
I'd
like
to
reiterate
what
I
believe
most
of
you,
though,,
to
be
true..
The
cca.
staff
at
cca
are
are
diligent
stewards
of
chatauqua..
We
are
professionals,
many
in
the
field
of
historic
preservation
who
understand
our
commitment
to
maintaining
and
preserving
this
historic
property.
and
we're
collaborative
collaboratively
with
landmark
staff
to
ensure
that
we
are
meeting
our
obligations.
R
R
Jason
hill:,
I
I
also
final
final..
I
wanted
to
thank
city
staff
for
their
collaborative
and
comprehensive
approach
to
having
that
navigating
this
l.
a.
c.
and
and
so
many
others
in
the
past,.
We
we
greatly
value
our
relationship
and
rely
on
their
guidance
as
we
continue
to
care
for
what
is
truly
a
national
treasure,
and
in
the
gradual
order.
R
A
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Q
Q
Q
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Q
A
Abby
daniels:
and
that
being
said,
that
with
3
of
us.,
who
will
deliberate
after
we
hear
from
public
comment.
and,
jason,,
you
will
obviously
have
an
additional
time
to
respond
to
anything..
It
will
take
a
unanimous
vote
of
3,,
depending
on
any
motions
that
might
be
brought
forward
before
we,
when
it.
A
A
A
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:-
and
I
don't
know
who
is
seeing
who
is
interested
from
the
public
to
address
this.
okay?,
again.
okay,.
So
as
a
reminder,,
if
you'd
like
to
speak,,
you
need
to
display
your
full
name
and
use
that
raise
hand
function
down
in
the
menu..
So
we
have
4
people,
abby.,
who
have
their
hand
raised.,
starting
with
patch
shinks,,
followed
by
star
warring.
A
S
S
S
S
S
S
S
A
T
T
Star
waring:
and
that
that's
important.,
star
waring:,
that's
not
really
related
to
why
the
fence
was
removed..
The
fence
was
removed,,
I
think,
for
very
legitimate
reasons,,
but
it
is
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
this
space,,
even
though
it
wasn't
historically
always
a
garden
within
the
period
in
question.
T
A
A
U
U
Jen
markus:
I'm
requesting
that
the
landmarks
board
denied
the
retroactive
lac.
Application
for
the
following
reasons,
cca.
is
denying
the
historical
significance
of
the
garden
that
existed
on
this
site
because
it
benefits
them
to
do
so.
the
area
where
the
garden
existed
prior
to
its
destruction.
I'll
mention
the
garden
itself
was
destroyed,,
not
just
the
fence.
U
U
U
Jen
markus:
this
acts
effectively
undermined
landmarks,
office.
prematurely.,
the
gardens
of
chicago
overall
have
been
an
important
part
of
the
unique
history,
beauty,
and
cultural
appeal,
and
maintaining
them
is
critical
for
the
cultural,
residency
and
environmental
benefit
of
the
area.
for
all
visitors.
U
U
U
Jen
markus:,
one
of
which
was
signed
by
many
former
chataka
board
members..
It
is
apparent
that
the
cca.
never
had
a
clear
plan
in
place
prior
to
removing
the
garden,
and
that
they
have
applied
for
retroactive
approval
for
doing
so,
after
sidestepping
proper
protocol,
and
only
after
being
called
out
for
failing
to
do
so..
Anyone
who
owns
an
historic
home
or
lives
in
an
historic
district
in
boulder
has
navigated
the
complexity.
U
Jen
markus:
of
applying
to
landmarks
for
alterations
or
updates
to
their
properties.
cca.
should
be
held
to
the
same
standards
as
any
other
applicant..
To
accept
this
lac
retroactively
sets
a
dangerous
precedent,
not
only
for
the
chautauqua
community,,
but
for
all
homeowners
of
historic,
landmark
properties
in
boulder.
U
Jen
markus:,
it
becomes
a
ask
for
forgiveness
first
and
permission
later.
Situation.
chatauqua
is
far
more
than
a
plot
of
land
with
historic
structures..
It
is
a
treasured
time,,
honor,
culture,
and
a
community,
and
the
preservation
of
the
land,,
the
environment
and
the
structures
only
hold
significance
when
a
community
and
culture
can
benefit
and
thrive
as
a
result
of
careful
and
intentional
preservation
and
proper
stewardship.
U
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
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W
W
W
W
A
C
C
Abby
daniels:
okay,.
We
will
now
close
the
public
hearing
for
agenda.
item
5,.
A.
this
evening.
We
will
bring
it
back
to
board
discussion..
I
ask
that
everyone
else
mute
your
computer
phone..
So
so
sorry,
the
applicant
does
have
a
chance
to
respond
to
anything
that
was
said
during
the
public
comment.
A
R
R
R
R
R
A
A
Abby
daniels:,
so
if,
if
board
members
have
no
additional
questions
for
jason.,
we
will
move
on
to
our
board
discussion..
I
do
ask
that
everyone
mature,
everyone
else,
mute
your
computer
phone
for
the
duration.
We
have
allotted
approximately
30
min
for
this
discussion.,
but
we'll
take
the
time
we
need
to
do.
That.
and.
D
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D
D
D
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C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
landscaping,
guidelines,
and
what's
in
our
purview?
for
landscaping,
includes
things
like
retaining
walls
and
fences
and
the
removal
of
mature
trees..
But
we
don't
review
what
people
plant
in
those
spaces,,
whether
it's
a
house
in
a
historic
district
or
up
as
chatauqua..
So
the
plantings
themselves
are
not
in
our
purview.
C
D
E
R
Jason
hill:
sure.
so.
as
you,
you
could
see
from
some
of
the
photos
in
the
application
that,
at
the
time
of
the
removal
of
the
fence,,
the
perennial
plants
that
were
there
at
the
removal
of
the
fence
were
there..
We
did
reach
out
to
the
gentleman
that
was
tending
to
the
garden,
and
asked
if
he
wanted
to
remove
any
of
those
plants.,
including
the
irises
and
some
rhubarb.
That
was
there.
R
R
E
E
E
E
E
A
A
A
A
Abby
daniels:,
who
work
their
care
about.
It
also
know
that
the
cottagers
care
about
it
as
well,,
and
you
know
no
one-
has
a
monopoly
on
that.
and
I
I
do
think
this
is
unfortunate
because
I
think
chelsea
and
john
have
gotten
to
the
heart
of
the
matter,,
based
on
staff's
excellent
memo
and
presentation,
that
our
per
view,,
even
if
we
had.
A
Abby
daniels:
documentation.:
this
was
a
story.
go
garden.,
there's,
certainly
old
photographs
that
that
show
during
the
period
of
significance.
this
space
was
used
as
a
garden,
and
you
know,.
I
have
to
realize
that
really
our
per
view
is
the
chain
link
fence..
I
also
think
for
everybody
who's
listening
to
this
and
took
the
time
and
energy
to
write
emails
and
letters.
A
Abby
daniels:,
when
this
was
looked
at
at
the
ldrc.,
we
didn't
have
as
much
information
as
staff
was
able
to
pull
together
for
a
full
landmarks
board.
Hearing.,
that's
the
way
it
happens.
and
I
think
that
sometimes
where
there
ever
is
a
question,,
because
I
understand
this
never
went
to
brown
grounds
and
building
committee
is
that,.
You
know,,
maybe
always
there
on
the
side
to
see.
If
you
need
an
lac.
A
Abby
daniels:
and
it
really
comes
from
a
place
where
you
know
our
task
is
to
protect
things,
and
especially
something
as
as
remarkable
as
chatauqua..
I
I
you
know
it's
also
not
under
our
per
view,
to
help
sort
of
navigate
some
issues
or
miscommunications
between
the
cca.
board
and
cottagers,
or
other
members
of
the
community
who
care
deeply
about
this
place..
So.
A
A
D
D
Chelsea
castellano:
I'm
gonna
gaylardia
lane
in
the
chautauqua
park,
historic
district.,
finding
that
the
proposal
meets
the
standards
for
issue,
events
of
a
landmark
alteration
certificate
in
chapter
9,
over
11,
over
181,
and
is
generally
consistent
with
the
general
design
guidelines
in
the
chicago
park.
Historic
district
guidelines.
thank
you.
chelsea.
A
P
P
P
C
A
A
Abby
daniels:
to
consider
adopting
a
resolution
to
initiate
the
process
for
landmark
designation
of
1,918,
pine
street.
pursuant
to
section
9,
11,
3
of
the
boulder
revised
code
1,981.
the
owner
is
benjamin.
Oliver.
in
the
applicant
is
the
city
of
boulder
landmarks
board,,
who
voted
to
hold
this
initiation.
hearing
this
evening.
P
P
P
P
Clare
brandt,
cob:,
a
motion
today
requires
an
affirmative
vote
of
at
least
3
members
to
pass,
and
motions
will
state
findings,
conclusions
and
recommendation..
A
record
of
this
hearing
is
again
available
in
a
couple
of
days
as
a
video
recording,
and
the
official
record
will
be
added
to
the
records
I
archive
within
28
days.
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:,
based
on
whether
there
are
currently
resources
available
to
complete
outreach
and
analysis..
If
there
is
community
and
neighborhood
support,
if
the
building
needs
the
protections
provided
through
designation.,
if
the
proposed
designation
is
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
the
boulder
valley,
comprehensive
plan,
or
if
the
proposed
designation
would
generally
be
in
the
public
interest.
as
9
11
d.
is
legislative,
the
board
can
consider
any
of
the
information
heard.
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:,
so
the
board
has
2
options
tonight.,
because
the
demolition
application
is
withdrawn
and
the
stay
is
ended..
The
board
cannot
approve
the
demolition
application
because
it's
been
withdrawn.
so
option
one,
the
board
may
vote
to
not
initiate
designation.
and
the
case
will
be
closed..
A
decision
today
to
not
initiate
does
not
affect
a
future
decision.
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:
also,.
If
there
is
community
support
which
has
been
limited,
and
whether
the
building
needs
the
protections
provided
through
designation,
and
as
there
is
no
current
demolition,
application,,
the
demolition,
approval
would
not
be
issued
if
the
board
takes
no
action
to
initiate
designation.
P
P
Clare,
brandt,
cob:.
The
board
is
also
asked
to
consider
if
initiation
over
the
owners,
objection
represents
a
reasonable
balance
between
private
property
rights
and
the
public's
interest,
and
is
consistent
with
the
boulder
valley,
comprehensive
plan..
We
consider
that
the
the
designating
this
property
over
the
owners
objection
would
not
represent
a
reasonable
balance
between
private
property
rights
and
the
public
interest.
P
P
P
C
P
H
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
just
marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
yeah,
john,.
I
am
not
aware
of
an
active
interest
or
movement
to
designate
the
whittier
neighborhood
as
a
historic
district.
It
was
or
has
been,
identified
as
potentially
eligible
for
over
40
years.,
but
you
know
I.
I
am
not
aware
of
a
current.
C
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
then
the
accessory
buildings,
which
were
which
were
built
later,
and
through
those
discussions
about
potentially
removing
the
later
additions.,
not
considering
the
accessory
buildings
to
be
particularly
special,,
the
owner
to
withdraw
and
then
revise
the
application
to
be
a
partial
demolition.
Because
of
the
way
the
lot
is
set
up.
and
where
the
building
is
located..
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner::
when
you
remove
those
older
additions,,
you
can
actually
build
kind
of
a
sizeable
addition,
but
still
be
compatible
with
the
older
building.,
and
I
think
who
his
credit.
ben,.
The
owner,
was
very
open
to
alternatives.
throughout
this
process,
and
and
was
willing
to
keep
the
the
building
and
work
with
it..
Of
course,
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
him,,
so
you
might
also
repeat
your
question
for
him.
Once
he's
spoken.
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X
X
X
X
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A
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C
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F
D
D
A
Abby
daniels:
thank
you,
chelsea.,
so,
first
and
foremost,.
I
want
to
thank
you,
ben,
from
for
flying
halfway
across
the
country
to
meet
with
us
on
june
eighth,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
stewardship
of
not
only
1918
pine
street,,
but
this
the
house
you
own
to
the
west
of
it,
and
for
those
of
you
who
don't
know
this,
and
claire
and
and
aubrey
and
marcy,
and
I
got
to
see
this.
A
A
Abby
daniels:
designation
and
tax
credits,
and
so
forth.
it
it
seemed
like
that
was
something
you
were
willing
to
at
least
think
about..
You
know,.
We
also
have
that
opportunity
to
talk
about
an
a
do
and
so
forth..
So
I
just
felt
like
your
openness
to
to
where
we
were
coming.
From?
why,.
We
saw
it
as
important,,
and
you
know
it
just
had
such
a
grace
note
to
that
street
and
that
neighborhood,
and
just
some
of
the
wonderful
things
you
have
done
to
it,
both
on
the
exchange.
A
A
G
F
F
Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:
for
such
initiation,,
pursuant
to
section
9,,
11,,
3.,
initiation
of
designation
for
individual
landmarks
and
historic
districts
of
the
boulder
revised
code.
1,981,
and
imbalance
is
not
consistent
with
the
goals
and
policies
of
section
227
of
the
boulder
valley.
comprehensive
plan.
A
A
P
A
A
A
Abby
daniels:.
So
the
next
item
on
our
agenda
is,
item
5
d.
which
is
a
public
hearing
and
consideration
of
a
motion
to
adopt
a
resolution
to
initiate
the
process
for
the
designation
of
historic
district,
and
come
encompassing
a
portion
of
the
area
from
1,777
broadway
to
fourteenth
street,
and
between
canyon,
boulevard
and
arapaho,.
Avenue..
A
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
followed
by
the
applicant's
presentation.
after
which
the
board
may
ask
questions..
The
public
hearing
is
then
open
for
public
comment,,
followed
by
in
board
questions,
and
then,
after
that,.
The
public
hearing
is
closed,
the
board
discusses,
and
if
appropriate,
adopts
a
resolution
to
accept
the
historic
district
application.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
before
I
jumped
right
into
my
presentation,,
but
I
did
want
to
let
the
board
know
that
we've
invited.
tina
breaks,
senior
landscape,
architect
from
parks
and
rec.
Here
this
evening,
and
she's
going
to
join
in
the
staff
presentation
to
provide
an
update
to
it
to
the
cultural
landscape
assessment.
here
in
a
couple
of
minutes,.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
I
should
have
said
that
about
that.,
marcy,
gerwing,,
principal
planner:,
so
following
the
criteria
for
review,,
the
board
has
2
options
in
front
of
you
tonight..
It
is
either
to
not
initiate
landmark
designation,,
in
which
case
this
case
would
end,
and
a
historic
district
could
be
considered
in
the
future
through
a
new
application.
C
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
a
historic
district
application,
which
was
submitted
by
3
community
groups..
One
of
the
genesis
at
the
end
of
august
2,021,.
When
the
friends
of
the
banshawe
sent
a
letter
to
the
landmarks
board,
requesting
that
the
boundary
of
the
band
shell
be
expanded.
To
extend
to
the.
C
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
in
2,023
and
historic
preservation
staff
committed
to
making
that
a
work
plan
priority
for
this
year,
which
brings
us
to
january
of
this
year,
when
staff
from
both
of
those
departments,
began
to
meet
and
develop
a
collaborative
approach.,
and
that
includes
the
development
of
a
cultural
landscape.
Assessment.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
that
is
currently
under
way..
Meanwhile,
the
3
community
groups
submitted
an
application
for
the
proposed
historic
district
was
accepted
as
complete
on
may
thirtieth,,
and
that
brings
us
to
today,
july
twelfth,,
which
is
for
your
consideration
of
whether
or
not
to
initiate
the
historic
district
designation,
process.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
just
a
recap,,
because
there
have
been
many
emails.
between
a
couple
of
the
cases
this
evening.,
the
landmark
board,
have
has
received
letters
from
10
people,
since
the
application
was
submitted
on
may
thirtieth,
2
of
those
were
included
and
attached
to
the
memo,
and
then
8
of
those
came
since
june.
Thirtieth,
and
those
have
been
included
as
part
of
the.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
so
before
I
dive
into
the
history
of
the
site
and
the
criteria
for
your
review.,
I
want
to
welcome
tina
briggs,,
who
is
here.
there.
You
are,
tina.
she's,
got
a
couple
of
slides
as
an
update
for
the
cultural
landscape
assessment..
I
just
want
to
clarify
that..
They
are
2
different
projects,,
but
they
are
related,
and
our
staff
recommendation
to
not
initiate
historic
district
designation
at
this
time.
C
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:
okay,,
how
about
now?,
tina,
briggs,,
cob,
parks,
&,
rec:,
wonderful?
okay,
sounds
good.
thank
you.
okay,,
so
we'll
just
kind
of
start
again
with
the
cultural
landscape
assessment,.
Just
as
that
quick
reminder.,
the
borders
that
we're
looking
for
looking
at
in
the
cultural
landscape
assessment
really
are
what
we
call
block
13,
or,,
if
you
think
about
it,
from
arapaho
to
canyon,
bordered
by
broadway,
and
thirteenth,
minus
kind
of
a
little
corner
that
isn't
owned
by
the
city
of
boulder..
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:
again,,
we
kind
of
talked
about
the
significance,
and
integrity.,
and
then
what
those
periods
look
like..
And
then
we
really
want
to
look
like
at
what
are
the
character,
defining
features
and
elements.
and
that
does,
it's
gonna,
look
at
kind
of
how
we're
starting
to
look
at
pearl
street
in
the
civic
area
and
moving
forward
to
so
we're
using
some
of
the
models
that
we've
used
in
the
past,,
but
really
leaning
on
the
national
park
service.
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:
and
the
national
park
service.
it
kind
of
has
these
13
defined
landscape
characteristics
that
we're
using..
We
have
a
couple
of
sort
of
decision
points
and
stopping.,
but
ultimately,.
If
this
goes
through
to
the
end,,
we
would
then
also
be
creating
treatment.
Recommendations.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
what
a
design
landscape
and
those
character,
characters,
characteristics
are,
and
then
just
having
a
a
standard
process
to
assess
undeveloped
treatment
recommendations..
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
an
anticipated
completion
of
september,
october,
december,
this
september
and
or
october.
it's
just
loosely
defined
in
there,,
because
we
do
have
a
few
decision
points
that
could
stop
or
move
us
forward.,
so
that
would
that
would
be
the
variation
between
that
end
date.
Y
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:
and
then
just
a
quick
overview
of
what
that
timeline
looks
like
I
guess.
If
I
go
back
one,
I
should
be
a
little
bit
more
clear
on
that.
Right.
sorry.
thanks
for
going
back
with
me..
What
we
look
at
is
the
first
thing
we're
doing
is
assessing
the
historic
significance..
So
right,
now,
we're
looking
at
what
those
periods
are..
If
we
didn't
find
any
significance.
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:
and
we're
looking
at
the
landscape
characteristics.
we're
actually
doing
some
gis
overlays
and
trying
to
look
at
different
layers
together..
So
we'll
give
you
more
information
when
we
have
analysis
moving
forward..
If
we
don't
find
integrity,,
that's
when
the
cla
would
stop..
If
we
do
find
integrity,,
then
we
would
go
forward..
I
move
those
develop
those
treatment,
guidelines.
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
and
maybe
I
want
to
say
a
little
bit
here
about
when
we
talk
about
this
piece..
How
does
that
fit
into
the
evaluation
of
the
historic
district
and
treatment
guidelines
for
the
historic
district?,
and
I
would
think
of
it
very
similar
as
the
pencil
tape
building
has
its.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
F
Abby
daniels:,
so
thank
you,
tina,
for
taking
the
time
this
evening
to
join
us..
So
I
think
you
made
a
compelling
case
of
a
of
a
cultural
landscape
assessment,
and
how
that
aligns
with
how
the
national
park
service
evaluates
things..
But
I
want
to
be
clear.
and,,
marcy,
you're,
the
one
maybe
best
to
answer
this.,
but
we
currently,
in
our
historic
preservation.
Ordinance
don't
have
a
requirement
for
a
cla..
Is
that
correct?.
A
Abby
daniels:
the
parks
and
rex
abby
daniels:
goal
is
to
proceed
with
that..
My
second
question
is
because
you
mentioned
treatments,,
and
you
know
things
like
that.:
how
does
this
cla
differ,
or
overlap
or
correlate
with??
I
know
there's
this
very
generous
grant
of
$267,000,
with
the
city
of
boulder
and
most
of
the
fence
from
the
state
historical.,
and
how
does
that
overlap
with
the
hip.
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:
yeah,,
that
makes
sense.
so
right
now,.
We
have
12
properties
that
are
currently
designated.,
so
the
hip
covers
those
12
properties
through
the
context
and
the
significance
and
treatment
recommendations..
So
what
I
would
see,
because
the
hip
is
really
going
to
be
a
living
document?.
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
later
down
the
line
after
the
decisions
are
made.,
tina,
briggs,,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
or
whether
it's
a
separate
part,
as
the
historic
district..
We
would
have
to
make
that
decision
then,,
but
it
would
certainly
just
be
added
as
a
chapter
and
and
should
align
with
the
other
treatment.
Recommendations.
A
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&,
rec:,
yeah.,
so
right
now,.
I
think
we
have,,
like
all
the
building
blocks
and
the
pieces..
What
we
don't
have
is
the
analysis.
so
right
now,
when
we're
looking
at,,
you
know
we
have
the
pieces.,
we
know
the
mapping..
We
know
what
the
maps
that
we
have
today
and
what
we
have
in
the
past.,
but
we
really
need
to
start
to
do
those
overlays
and
then
and
then
come
out
with
that
analysis
to
really
have
any
basis
for
decision
making.
A
F
F
F
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
sure
and
then
add
add
anything
in
there.
So
stops
recommendation
is
to
not
initiate
and
to
allow
time
for
the
cl
to
be
complete,,
and
I
think
there
are
a
couple
of
advantages.
There.
one
is
that
it
will
provide
a
gap
in
our
understanding
of
the
park.,
acknowledging
that
this
area
of
boulder
has
been
studied
so
many
times
over.
The
decades.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
there
are
about
5
or
6
departments
across
the
city
that
we
will
be
looking
to
coordinate
with,
as
well
as
outside
entities,,
including
c.
dot,,
because
broadway
goes
through
the
boundary,
and
then
the
I
think
there
are
4.
Ditch
companies
that
share
the
boulder
slew
through
the
park.
So.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
that
will
provide
us
time
to
coordinate
with
the
various
departments
into
these.
and
then
there's
the
community
engagement
piece,
which
is
necessary
for
city
owned
properties
at
a
higher
kind
of
level
than
than
a
private,
say,
historic,
district.,
and
so
what
we
have
envisioned
is
doing
things
like
walking
tours.,
some
sort
of
online
presence,,
open,
houses.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
recommendation
is
based
on
providing
additional
time
to
do
some
of
that
leg.
Work..
I
think
that
when
the
code
was
written,
I
really
appreciate
how
stringent
it
is
with
these
different
steps
about
meeting
with
property
owners
explaining
the
benefits
drafting
design,
guidelines.
C
Y
F
F
F
F
Y
tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
the
sorry
I
come
here,
just
a
second.
okay,
so
like
the
cadence
of
it
really
is
thinking
right,
now.
so,
for
example,
in
the
historic
places
plan.
we
have
the
band
shell..
We've
got
the
context,
that
significance,
treatment,
recommendations.
and
then,
you
know,
really,.
What
we
were
focusing
on
is
there's
trying
to
talk.
sorry..
I
think
ronnie
is
having
an
issue.
okay,
thank
you.
F
F
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
just
thinking
of,
like
the
building
blocks
and
kind
of,,
I
think
how
it's
all
working
together,
and
what
it
means
to
parts
and
recreation.
so
right,
now,.
What
we
have
is
the
hip
has
helped
us
to
find
our
12
properties.
and
within
those
properties,
we're
looking
at
historic
context,
integrity.
the
treatment
recommendations.
and
then
the
hip
is
really
helping
us
focus
on
what
those
capital
priorities
are
within
that.
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
that
particular
property..
So
if
you
think
about
then
expanding
it
to
this,
cla,,
it's
really
building
the
basis
for
what
we
would
add
to
something
like
the
hip.,
because
we're
building
that
historic,
context,
the
significance
that.
and
if
that
is
all
in
place,,
then
we
have
the
treatment
recommendations.
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:.
So
what
that
allows
us
is
really
as
staff
to
be
very
aligned
with
staff
and
our
boards,
and
very
in
line
on
how
we
should
go
forward..
I
think
right
now,,
one
of
the
things
that,
from
the
parks
and
recreation
department,
right?
at
least
even
from
where,,
like
I'm
at,,
is
like.
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
it
adds,,
maybe
a
layer
of
oversight.,
but
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
really
prevent
or
change
much
of
what
would
happen
or
or
prevent
anything,
any
change
based
on
the
treatment
recommendations
that
we
would
build..
I
think
we
all
are
looking
forward
to
being
that
active
parkspace.
and
how
do
we
keep
it?
active?.
Y
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
already
designated
tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:
buildings.
we're
going
to
take
that
into
consideration.
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
those
treatment
recommendations,,
regardless
of
whether
it
is
a
historic
district
where
it's
not
so
for
us,,
it's
more
just
that
really
building
towards
those
data,
informed
decisions
and
looking
for
that
base
of
information.
E
E
E
Y
Y
Y
Y
E
C
D
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
yeah,.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
yeah.,
so
well,
we
haven't
had
a
new
designated
historic
district
in
very
long,.
I
think.
2,006.
I
have
been
part
of
2
proposed
historic
districts
where
the
majority.
it
only
takes
25
of
the
owners
to
submit
a
designation,
application.
so
as
part
of
2
applications
that
were
started..
But
then.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
weren't,
ultimately
followed
through
on
the
owners,
change
their
mind
during
the
process..
So
once
a
a
designation
application
is
submitted..
This
hearing
must
occur
within
45
days,
and
then
the
code
says
that
staff
must
hold
a
meeting
with
the
property
owners
to
explain
the
benefits
and
responsibilities
of
historic
district
designation.
and
then
there's
a
questionnaire.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
what's
interesting
is
that
it's
not
a
code
criteria
to
have
a
majority
in
support
in
order
to
designate.,
but
there
is
an
official
step
to
gauge
support
for
the
district,
and
then
there
are
also
draft
design
guidelines
which
aren't
developed
for
every
single
historic
district..
But
if
there
are
kind
of
unique
circumstances,,
that
is
something
that's
part
of
the
case.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
then
it
comes
to
the
landmarks
board
for
a
designation.
hearing,
then,
to
planning
board
for
their
input
on
the
land,
use,
implications.
and
then
the
ultimate
decision
maker
is
city
council,
and
that
goes
into
readings..
First,
on
the
consent,
agenda,
typically,
and
second,
as
a
public
hearing.
C
D
C
C
D
D
Y
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
as
if
it
were
designated
until
the
final
decision
is
made.
however,
right
now,.
The
only
improvements
that
we
have
planned
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
year
really
are
the
band
shell,
and
we've
already
applied
for
a
landmark
alteration
certificate
which
has
been
given
to
us.
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
I
think,
gives
parks
and
recreation
board..
The
information
also
to
be
really
like,,
you
know.,
so
we're
all
aligned
in
moving
down
the
same
road..
I
think
that's
kind
of
ultimately
what
we
want
to
have
happen,
here?
versus
having
any
sort
of
resistance
or
questions,,
or
why
are
we
doing
this?
or
how
are
we
moving
forward.
so
laying
that
out,
really,.
Y
D
D
Y
Y
Y
A
A
A
A
Abby
daniels:
my
understanding,
is,,
and
it
makes
sense
that
the
treatment
for
the
glenn
glen
huntington
band
shell
has
been
taken
off
the
website
as
the
hip
proceeds
because
of
this
pending
application
for
a
storage
district..
But
I
so
I
can't
look
at
it
right
now,,
but
I
had
an
understanding
that
for
the
glen,,
the
site,,
the
current
boundary
of
the
glen.
Y
Y
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&,
rec:,
word,
alignment
and
association
with
this
cultural
landscape
assessment..
So
it's
like,.
Let's
put
it
on
pause
in
the
sense
that
if
anything
new
comes
to
light
that
we
didn't
have
before.
so,
for
example,
the
planting
plan
and
a
grading
plan,
that
we're
included
in
the
hip..
We
want
to
make
sure
we
examine
those
and
cross
exam
them,
so
they're
very
aligned
and
nothing.
It
has
any
conflict
in
the
future..
So
we're
not
trying
to
figure
out
what
takes
precedence.
and
what's.
Y
Y
A
F
F
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
identifies.,
marcy,
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
why
area
is
significant
and
can
call
out
contributing
features
in
that
ordinance.
and
that's
the
designating,,
you
know,
piece,,
that
that
creates
a
historic
district,
and
then
the
design
guidelines
help
manage
change
in
that
district
over
time,,
which
are
informed
by.
C
B
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner::
they
are
very
helpful
when
the
properties
are
unique,
and
I
would
say
that
it
would
be
very
helpful,,
considering
the
unique
structures
and
the
parkland
of
this
proposed
district,
that
I
think
our
program
would
benefit
from,,
and
I
would
extend
that
across
to
other
departments,.
Too,
would
benefit
from
design
guidelines.,
but
to
directly
answer
your
question,,
I
believe
they
can
be
added
later.
F
F
Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:,
starting
with
the
boundary.
ronnie
pelusio
lmb:,
that's
the
highest
level
piece
here
of
what
might
be
in
flux,
or,
you
know,
might
be
impacted.
does..
Is
there
any
question?
or
I've
read
a
little
bit
about
this.?
So
maybe
I've
already
answering
this
about
what
the
actual
boundary
should
be.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
it
it
can,,
and
that
is
something
that
we
would
expect
to
assess
a
little
farther
if
the
board
chooses
to
initiate
the
process..
The
decision
in
front
of
you
tonight
is:
is
there
probable
cause?
and
do
we
start
this
process?
and
so,?
Like
you
mentioned
ronnie.,
the
process
would
allow
time
to.
C
AA
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:.
If
the
assessment.
tina,
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
you
know,
we're
to
say
that
you
know
it
has
significance.,
but
there's
no
integrity.
That
also,
you
know,
and
if
we
can
kind
of
show
that
if,
if
that's
the
case,
is
that
a
cause
or
a
thought
to
maybe
adjust
that
boundary.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
okay,,
so
here's
a
map
just
for
our
reference,.
If
needed.
the
proposed
boundary
includes
5
individually
landmarked
buildings
that
are
all
city
owned..
It's
the
municipal,
building,,
the
atrium
building,,
the
tea
house,,
the
storage
and
transfer
building,,
which
is
also
known
as
bimoka,,
the
glen
huntington
band
shell,
and
then
the
central
park.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
so.,
marcy,
gerwing,,
principal
planner:
again,,
the
decision
in
front
of
you
tonight,
is,
is
there
probable,
cause?
and
then
the
other
6
categories..
So
this
is
not
by
any
means
an
exhaustive
history
of
the
area.,
but
I
did
want
to
provide
kind
of
unknown
history
of
central
park
and
the
surrounding
buildings.,
so
starting
first,.
This
is
the
ancestral
phones
of
indigenous
peoples.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
not
too
much
longer.
after
boulder
was
founded,.
The
boulder
and
white
rock
ditch
company
was
created
in
1,875
and
in
this
area
it
was
largely
railroads,,
mills,,
smelters,,
lumber
yards..
These
are
all
industries
that
are
water,
based.,
and
so
the
proximity
to
the
creek
is
why
they
were
located
here.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
then,
in
1897,,
the
boulder
citizens
reform
group
was
established,,
and
this
can
really
be
seen
as
kind
of
a
turning
point.
In
boulder's
history.,
there
were
2
kind
of
groups
that
were
pulling
for
which
way
boulder
should
grow
into
the
future..
One
was
very
industry.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
base
to
attract
the
the
mills
and
the
smelters
and
the
lumber
yards,,
the
other
ones..
I
think
it
was
a
quote
like
a
quiet
and
and
beautiful
city.,
and
so
you
can
see
in
the
early
19
hundreds.
These
citizen
led
efforts
that
kind
of
informed
what
boulder
is
today..
So
in
1903,,
the
boulder
city
improvement
association
was
founded.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
to
provide
some
context
of
what
else
was
happening
in
this
early
period
of
boulder.
in
1,898,,
chatauqua
was
established.
that
was
also
kind
of
a
community
led
effort
and
one
of
the
earliest
parks
in
boulder.,
the
boulder
colorado
sanitarium
opened
the
same
year,,
and
that
was
a
very
popular
treatment
facility
initially
for.
C
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
this
next
period
looks
to
the
kind
of
period,
where
the
park
was
established
in
1,923
olmsted
produced
a
plan
for
a
larger
green
way,
which
included
a
world
war,
one
memorial
city
hall,
athletic
field
in
the
park,,
and
it
was
much
larger
than
the
park.
We
know
today.
it
extended.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
east
towards
boulder
high,
and,,
as
I
mentioned,
had
these
other
amenities..
There
was
a
legal
case
that
election
was,
or
the
vote
was
challenged,
and
then,
subsequent
bond
measure
failed.,
and
so
the
park
was
reduced
quite
a
bit
in
size
to
its
current
kind
of
location
and
boundaries
that
we
know
today.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
for
context.
it
was
in
1,928
when
boulder
passed,
the
first
zoning
ordinance,
and
it
was
one
of
the
earliest
in
the
west
for
the
united
states.,
so
the
theme,
so
far,
is,.
I
think,
a
a
very
intentional
effort,
both
through
legislation
and
then
community
led
land
donations
and
activities
to
make
boulder
kind
of
what
it
is
today.
In
terms
of.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
this
was
marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
just
following
the
great
depression
and
in
1,932.
there
were
2
other
significant
art
deco
buildings
that
had
gone
up..
One
was
the
new
courthouse
in
1,932,
and
then
the
high
school
around
that
time,
as
well,
both
designed
by
huntington.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
the
next
period,
began
with
the
bond
issue
for
the
municipal
building,,
which
passed
in
1,945.
It
was
envisioned
to
be
a
bit
larger,
with
the
museum
as
part
of
it.,
but
due
to
some
funding.
by
the
time
it
was
built,
it
was
a
bit
smaller..
It
was
designed
by
james
hunter,
and
dedicated
in
1,952.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
so
the
first
criteria
goes
to.
Is
there
probable
cause
to
believe
the
district
may
be
eligible
for
historic
district
designation.
staff
considers
that
there
is
probable
cause
based
on
a
number
of
factors.
one
is,.
It's
inclusion
of
5
significant
buildings
and
their
sites
that
have
been
previously
designated.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
it
was
not.
there
wasn't
an
eligibility
determination,
for
local
designation
at
that
time,,
but
it
states
that
the
park
is
significant
for
its
association
with
the
development
of
the
boulder
park
system
and
with
the
activities
and
events
for
which
the
part
provided
offend.
There
was
a
letter
or
a
memo
commission
from
mundus
bishop,,
the
landscape
architecture,
firm.
C
C
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
then
also
along
with
the
broader
community,,
which
could
include
walking
tours
pop
up
events
in
an
online
presence
through
be
her
boulder.
and
then
additional
historic
analysis
will
include
determining
the
period
of
significance,,
historic,
district,
boundary,
and
name
identification
of
contributing
and
non
contributing
features
in
the
development
of
design.
Guidelines.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
completing
the
community
outreach
and
analysis
within
these
tight
code
mandated
timeframes..
In
addition
to
the
work
on
the
cla
and
ongoing
program,
operations,
will
strap,
will
stretch
our
staff
capacity
and
other
initiatives
will
likely
be
delayed
or
reduced
to
the
scope.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
the
designation
of
publicly
on
properties.,
does
require
an
increased
level
of
analysis
and
community
engagement
by
not
initiating
at
this
time..
It
will
allow
us
additional
time
to
explore
the
district
through
the
cla.
and
the
civic
area,
phase
2.
planning
process
and
allow
us
to
streamline
our
resources.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
third
asks
whether
there
is
community
and
neighborhood
support
for
the
proposed
designation..
As
we
mentioned,
3
local
historic
preservation
organizations
have
partnered
on
the
application,
and
since
may,
thirtieth,
10
letters
of
support
for
the
historic
district
have
been
received.
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
as
we
mentioned,,
it
includes
5
properties
that
are
already
designated
as
individual
landmarks.,
so
those
structures
won't
be
impacted.
if
anything,
they'll
have
additional
guidance
through
design
guidelines.,
but
the
regulatory
piece,
is
the
same,,
whether
it's
individual,
designation
or
historic
district
designation.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
so
historic
district
designation,
would
add
another
layer
of
review
for
exterior
changes
to
the
landscape
areas
within
the
district
boundaries,,
which
would
ensure
changes,,
preserve
and
enhance
the
character
of
the
district
and
do
not
damage
or
destroy..
It's
contributing
features.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:.
The
next
question
asks
about
the
potential
boundaries
for
the
proposed
district
and
staff
finds
upon
our
kind
of
initial
review
that
the
inclusion
of
the
central
park
and
5
city
on
landmarks
in
the
streets
and
plauses
are
appropriate
as
a
concentration
of
significant
sites
that
represent
distinct
periods
of
time
spanning
the
twentieth
century.
However,
staff
considers
the
inclusion
of
the
parking
lots.
to
not
be
appropriate.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
so,
of
course,.
We
would
study
this
more
if
the
board
initiated
designation,
but
best
practices
is
not
to
include
buffer
areas.
and
since
the
parking
lots
aren't
significant
in
their
own
right.
staff
would
likely
recommend
that
the
boundary
be
a
little
bit
tighter
to
the
contributing
elements.
C
C
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
protect
them
through
a
designation,
marcy,
gerwing,,
principal
planner:,
2.2,
8
leadership
and
preservation
for
a
city
and
county
owned.
Resources,
states
that
the
city
will
evaluate
their
publicly
owned
properties
to
determine
their
historic,.
Architectural,,
archaeological,
or
cultural
significance
and
eligible
resources
will
be
protected
through
local
designation.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
then
preservation
of
archaeological
sites
and
cultural
landscapes
states.
The
city
will
develop
a
plan
and
process
to
identify,
designate
and
protect
archaeological
and
cultural
landscape.
Resources.
such
as
ditches.
we're
practicable
in
in
coordination
with
the
ditch
companies.
street,
now
escapes
railroad
rights
away
and
designed
landscapes.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
and
the
final
criteria
is
the
proposed
designation
would
generally
be
in
the
public.
Interest.
designation
protects
sites
and
buildings
that
are
important
to
folder's
history..
It
enhances
property,
values,,
stabilizes
neighborhoods,,
promotes
tourist
trade
and
interest
and
fosters
and
knowledge
of
the
city's
living
history.
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
central
park
in
the
surrounding
civic
buildings
are
important
for
the
role
they
have
played
in
the
social
and
cultural
life
of
the
city,
and
as
examples
of
a
progression
of
architectural
styles,
and
for
central
park's
contribution
to
the
history
of
park.
Development
and
boulder.
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
however.
Well
there
is
probable
cost
to
believe
the
area
may
be
eligible.
staff
considers
the
designation
or
initiating
the
designation
process
at
this
time
would
generally
not
be
in
the
public
interest
because
of
the
additional
research
and
analysis
to
determine
the
significance
of
this
area
that
would
be
provided
through
the
cla.
C
C
F
C
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
we
have
estimated
about
45
min
scheduled
for
board
deliberation..
This
is
just
an
estimate..
It's
not
not
a
requirement.,
but
the
main
kind
of
key
question
in
front
of
you
all
tonight:
is,
should
the
landmark
for
initiate
historic
district
designation?
if
yes,,
but
to
initiate
designation.
That
starts
the
the
process..
If
no,
then.
C
F
F
F
C
C
C
C
F
F
F
F
C
Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
the
hypothetical,
is
hard
to
answer
because
we
did.
we
have
been
meeting
and
and
working
between
our
2
departments,
parks
and
planning
and
development
services..
Since
the
beginning
of
the
year,
to
find
this
collaborative
process
and
and
out
of
that,
the
cla
was
identified
as
a
a
critical
piece.
C
C
Y
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
but
because
this
area
is
so
highly
used
by
so
many
different
user
groups.
when
we
start
to
talk
about
public
engagement,,
keep
in
mind
that
that's
going
to
bring
right
business
owners,
you
know,
and
lots
of
people
to
the
table
who
might
have
different
opinions..
So
if.
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:.
We
insert
that
cla,
with
that
information
on
the
parkland..
I
think
that
that's
a
way
to
answer
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
are
going
to
come
up
from
the
community
members
of
what
does
this
mean?
and
what
is
it
gonna
do?,
and
what
does
it
limit?
and
what
are
we
looking
for?
and
if
we
can
really
find
that
significance
and
integrity?
It
really
like
helps
us
tell
the
story
to
the
community,
and
why
this
would
be
really
important.
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Abby
daniels:
wait.,
I
thought
once
an
application
was
submitted..
I
know,
for
an
individual
landmark..
It's
considered
land
mark
until
a
decisions
made
not
to..
Is
that
not
true?
with
historic,
districts?
no.
and
lucas,?
You
might
jump
in
here..
Is
it
from
the
date
that
application
is
submitted,
or
the
date
of
the.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:,
and
maybe
we
don't
have
an
answer
to
this..
I
just
wanted
to
frame
that
is
that,
and
then
maybe
again,
others
will
speak
to
this.
Is
that
I
hear
there's
a
question
about
protection.
there's
a
there's
question
about
commitment,
and
then
there's
a
desire
for
a
different
timeline
which
may
be
an
obstacle
that
we
can.
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Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
so
right
now
we're
looking
at,
you
know,.
When
you
see
those
stops,
we're
looking
for,
does
it
have
significance?.
So
the
answer
to
that
is,.
We
have
found
enough
significance
that
we're
now
going
to
go
to
that
next
step
and
start
to
look
at
the
integrity..
So
right,
now,
we're
doing
analysis
on
the
integrity
of
what
we
have.
and
then
you
know
what
it's
going
to
look
like
is.
Y
Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
for
this
particular
period,.
This
is
the
period
of
significance
that
you
know.
we're
going
to
focus
on
because
it
has
the
most
value.
and
then
we're
looking
at
the
integrity,
and
then
what
is
left
of
the
integrity
in
there.
so
then,
when
we
look
at
it,
is
what
is
the
historic
district
at
that
point?
Actually
protecting
and
saving
in
that
integrity.
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Tina
briggs,
cob,
parks,
&
rec:,
so
then
keep
in
mind
right,
like
our
memos,,
and
things
have
to
be
turned
in
about
3
weeks
in
advance
of
like
of
the
next
meeting..
So
you
know,
once
we
have
that
finalized
document,.
We're
gonna
have
a
peer
review
with
the
consultant,
which
is
included
in
that
timeline.
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Abby
daniels:
but,
marcy,,
I
did
have
one
comment..
I
really
appreciate
both
of
your
presentation
and
memorandum
when
you
spell
out
the
number
of
people
who
have
speak
and
support
it,,
because
I
want
everyone
on
this
board
to
be
very
mindful
that,
when
historic,
boulder
speaks.
it's
not
one
person,
they
are
speaking
on
behalf
of
dozens
of
people
of
the
organization,,
and
you
know
I
want
to
be
careful
now
for
whatever
questions
I
do.
Have.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
oh,,
sorry,
I
just..
I
just
want
to
clarify
that..
I
I
agree
with
that
statement,
and
I
also
do
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
do
believe
the
cla.
is
going
to
provide
a
missing
piece
of
information
that
will
help
us
will
help
us
understand,,
particularly
the
park
space
as
a
design
landscape.,
but
in
general
yes,.
It's
it's
more
about
the
timing
and
the
resources
of
this
application.
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Bob
muckle:,
so
I
I
I
this
line
is
just
to
reiterate
what
abbey
just
said,,
which
is
that?
the..
You
know
we're
not.,
it's
not
just
those
of
us
on
the
call
tonight.
I
mean,
there
are,
you
know,
are
hundreds
of
historic
folder
members
who
are
reading
about
this
in
our
newsletters
and
websites,,
and
also
the
friends,,
the
t.
shell
and.
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leonard
segel:,
it's
going
to
be
able
to
open
up
the
neighborhood
to
attention
on
a
national
level
that
could
be
receive
support
from
national
organizations
like
the
ones
listed
here..
The
next
image
is
really
the
same
kind
of
story,,
except
at
the
state
level,,
maybe
even
stronger
attention
that
it
would
receive.
and.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:
okay.
well,
bob,,
it's
nice
to
meet
you
and
excellent
presentation,
both
of
you,
leonard..
It
is
always
wonderful
to
hear
you
speak,,
and
I've
heard
you
touch
on
similar
topics
when
we
walked
the
campus
area,
just
the
other
day.,
but
I
just
have
to
tell
you.
your
reporting
of
it
is
outstanding
and
it's
definitely
engaging.
and
I
hope
that.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:.
There
is
a
documentation
of
the
story,
line.
that
is,
you
know,
easily
accessible
to
public..
That
track
something
similar
to
what
you're
saying,,
because
it's
very
compelling.
it's
compelling
for
me,
and
I'm
sure
there
will
be
other
versions
and
more
robust
information..
I'm
sure
you
could
even
share
a
lot
more
information
with
us.,
but
I
really
do
appreciate
the
work
that
your
organization.
and
you
guys
as
individuals
are
putting
into
this..
I
just.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:
and
hopefully
designation,
right?
and
then
the
commitment
piece
just
to
touch
on
again..
I
I
do
think
that
we're
going
to
hear
some
of
that
from
the
public,,
but
I
do
hear
a
little
bit
from
that
from
you
guys
as
well,,
and
and
also
how
it
relates
to
maybe
a
prolonged
timeline
associated
with
the.
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Leonard
segel:
during
the
civic
area,
phase
2
project,,
because
that's
even
more
concerned
in
some
ways
than
the
cla,,
because
that
I'm
not
sure
if
you
know
about
it.
but
there's
an
rfp.,
that's
about
to
come
out
by
the
city,
to
have
a
redesign
of
the
entire
civic
area
from
ninth
street
to
fourteenth
street..
That
includes
this
just
proposed
district,
and
if
there's
no
protection
for
that,,
then
the
voice
of
historic
preservation,
is.
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Leonard
segel:
well,
there
is.
there
is
a
historic
preservation
ordinance
that
the
community
has
been
supporting
for
50
years..
So
it's
not
like..
You
know,,
there's
not
a
voice
out
there
of
interest
in
the
community
for
historic
preservation
as
well,,
and
that
historic
preservation
allows
for
thoughtful.
K
Leonard
segel:
additions
and
changes
to
historic
properties.,
so
we're
totally
supportive
of
a
re-examination
of
the
civic
park
to
create
more
benefits
for
the
great
needs
that
the
community
has,,
such
as
workforce,
housing,,
etc.
for
bike,
lanes,
for
multimodal
transportation,
for
helping
the
homeless,
we're
supportive
of
that..
But
if
but
historic
preservation
is
a
voice
that
this
community
values
as
well,,
and
it
should
be
at
the
table.
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Bob
muckle:
well,
and
just
to
reiterate
what
land
said,,
which
is
that
you
know
this,
the
having
it,
the
historic
preservation
voice
at
the
table,
doesn't
mean
that
you
won't
be
able
to
do
things
that
the
committee
wants
to
do
with
the
part,.
But
you'll
have
to.
you
know,.
You
have
to
contend
with
at
least
the
input
from
the
historic
preservation
community.
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Kathryn
barth:,
almost
it
could
say,
hey,
the
board!
that
bansh
all
turned
out
pretty
well,
and
they
would
both
recognize
where
they
were
from
when
they
were
working
here..
So
so
I
think
that
gives
a
lot
of
the
integrity
of
the
sound..
So
am
I
going
to
my
end
of
time.
yeah,?
We
let
you
go
a
little
over.,
we're
very
thank
you,
so
much.
thanks,,
lynn.
and.
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Dan
corson:,
I'm
muted
okay,,
so
we
can
hear
you..
Now
you
can.
okay.
hi,,
I'm
dan
corson.,
I've,
tired
the
landmarks.
board,
the
planning,
board.
2
terms
on
city
council,
on.,
I'm
a
member
of
the
friends
of
the
banshell..
I
want
to
talk
about
process
a
bit,,
because
I
do
not
believe
that
citizens
should
be
punished
by.
I
will
terminate
a
lesson
ideal
process
that
has
occurred.
AC
Dan
corson:,
you
know
by
now
that
just
last
year
president
banshill
wanted
to
extend
the
boundaries
to
what
they
were
originally
envisioned.,
that
was
not..
They
decided
to
back
off
because
train
cars.
Were
there
landmarks.
board
agreed,,
but
staff
said,
no,,
we
disagree.
you
should
do
it
as
a
district.
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Dan
corson:
and
then
we
find
halfway
into
over
halfway
into
2,023,
that
we
just
can't
do
a
district
without
a
lot
more
stuff,.
A
lot
more
information.
shouldn't
that
information
been
depart
imparted
to
the
city
council
13
months
ago,
before
it
made
its
final
decision
on
the
small
increase
down,
and
also
regarding
the
cla.
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Franmandelsheets:
you,
too.
franmandelsheets:.
Can
you
hear
me,
abby?
yes,?
We
can
hear
you,
fran.
great
thanks
for
waiting.,
I'm
in
the
east.,
so
this
is
really
late
for
me.
Right
now.
and
I
won't
repeat,
what's
been
said..
This
has
been
an
amazing
and
very
wonderful
discussion
that
you
guys
have
held
tonight.
and
I
think
marcy's.
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Franmandelsheets:-
and
that
will
happen
again
if
they
do
it
backwards..
I
have
yet
to
have.
an
an
answer
as
to
why
they
cannot
be
done
at
the
same
time.
why,.
We
can't
be
parks,,
do
their
cla
and
get
their
answers.
and
why
preservation
can't
go
ahead
and
have
a
seat
at
the
table
and
push
for
designation.
they're
they're.
Just
there
just
has
not
been
an
answer
to
this.
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Franmandelsheets:-
and
I
just
wanted
to
remind
people
again
that
on
june
fourteenth.,
we
were
promised
that
this
would
happen
within
this
calendar
year,
2,023,
that
they
would
complete
this
historic
district..
And
if
this
can't
happen
because
we
don't
have
staff.,
why
does
some
of
the
money
from
the
cla.
O
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Franmandelsheets:
overall.,
I
just
support
all
of
you
people,
and
I
hope
you
all
do..
I
hope
this
board
does
vote
to
initiate
you
guys
came
through
for
the
expansion
on
the
banshill
last
year
and
we
have
to
come
back.,
and
this
is
our..
This
is
the
solution
that
the
city
gave
us,,
and
so
thank
you
for
supporting
that,
and
thank
you
for
supporting
this.
This
time,
too.
thanks.
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Kristinlewis:,
especially
since
you
know,,
the
original
plan
was
that
we
would
probably
have
some
city
offices
on
the
east
side,
and
that,
you
know,.
There
was
some
book
in
thing,
and
once
the
the
city
had
once
it
was
decided
that
the
city
is
gonna,
consolidate
at
the
boulder
community
hospital
site
on
broadway..
I
think.
Z
Kristinlewis:
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity,
here,
and
I
and
I
don't
think
landmarking
it.
The
district
is
going
to
preclude
future.
Development.-
I
think
it
can,
you
know,,
but
it
does
to
me
it's
very
important
that
there'
be
protection,
and
that
the
landmark
board
be
at
the
table
and
be
able
to
look
at
a
broader
issue..
I
mean,
you,
you
guys
have.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
sorry
before
you
move
on
to
board
deliberation.,
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
chance
to
respond
to
something
that
was
said,
as
the
city
is
technically
the
owner..
But
the
timeline
for
the
civic
area
phase
2.
that
patrick
o'k
referenced
was
from
january,
from
a
a
council,
ip
and
so
the
correct
timeline
and
the
updated.
one
is
that
it
is
in
the.
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Abby
daniels:
olmsted
said
a
telegraph
to
a
telegram
to
a
member
of
the
boulder
civic
improvement
association,,
and
I
think
it
was
to
dr.
william
bear.,
but
I
could
be
wrong.
and
what
olmsted,
jr.
was
proposing
is
that
the
city
of
boulder
create
a
planning
department?.
So
christopher
marcy,,
aubrey,
claire.
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Abby
daniels:
and
the
state
of
colorado
was
celebrating
its
centennial
in
1,976,
the
denver
civic
center
historic
district
was
designated
as
a
landmark..
This
district
showcases,
the
wonderful,
is
a
wonderful
setting
example
of
the
city,
beautiful
movement
that
swept
across
the
country
after
the
1,893
chicago
world
fair,
columbian
exhibition.
A
Abby
daniels:
and
the
person
who
picks
the
side
of
that
exhibition
was
frederick
law,
olmsted,
jr..
He
picked
his
side
along
the
shores
of
lake
michigan,
and
after
the
crowds
had
gone
away
and
the
displays
were
taken
down,,
the
vast
majority
of
buildings
were
raised,,
even
louis
sullivan's
transportation,
building.,
the
only
things
that
remain
that
enhanced
chicago
after
that
world's
fair.
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Abby
daniels:
denver
civic
center
is
that
a
smaller
portion
of
that
was
even
designated
as
a
national,
historic
landmark
in
2,012,,
and
we
know
we
have
to
talk
with
the
national
historic
landmark
and
the
pardon
in
denver
civic
area
that
is
designated
as
a
historic
national,.
Historic
landmark
is
one
of
26.
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Abby
daniels:
total
in
the
state
of
colorado..
There
is
no
other
area
in
boulder
that
better
celebrates
the
best
of
boulder
in
our
progressive,
innovative
spirit
than
our
civic
center,
and
the
more
than
100
year
old,
central
part,
as
onset
envisioned
a
lot
of
it
as
the
park
at
boulder
creek..
The
legendary
names
we've
heard,
tonight.
A
Abby
daniels:
james
hunter,,
blynn,
huntington,
soccer,,
our
debore,
hobart,,
wagner,
and
last,,
but
certainly
not
lease
frederick
law.
Omsted
are
all
woven
into
this
potential
historic
district,
physically,,
with
tangible
connections
to
their
work
and
their
labors
of
love,
and
as
well
as
woven
into
our
history.
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Abby
daniels:
additionally,
city-owned
buildings
can
be
used
effectively
to
illustrate
successful
integration
of
historic
preservation
and
environmental
sustainability..
The
city's
willingness
to
actively
participate
in
its
own
historic
preservation
program,
instills
a
sense
of
unity
with
owners
of
landmark
properties
and
buildings
within
historic
districts.
A
A
Abby
daniels:
this
historic
district,,
and
I
think
that
this
is
we
need
to
embrace
it..
I
think
the
time
has
come.
we
traveled
down
one
path.
A
year.
Ago,
then
was
told
to
create
a
story.
district
members
of
the
community.
t.
came
forward
to
do
that,.
I
think
we
owe
it
to
them..
I
was
really
struck
last
june
fourteenth.
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Abby
daniels:
at
the
city
council
meeting
with
our
mayor
pro
timoth,
the
time
racial
friend
said
she
was
voting
for
the
boundary
expansion
specifically
because
she
was
hearing
from
citizen..
She
heard
the
groundswell,
and
she
doesn't
want
to
waste
people's
time..
She
didn't
want
us.
All.
death
go
through
this
process
again
and
again,
and
again.
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A
Abby
daniels:
is
to
foster
an
appreciation
of
historic
preservation
and
to
champion
the
value
of
it.
it's
possible.
There
are
dedicated
city
staff
who
are
concerned
about
the
ramifications
of
landmarking
without
understanding
that
it
does
not
preclude
changes,,
but
rather,
preservation
helps
guide
any
changes..
This
district
could
actually
become
a
shining
example.
A
Abby
daniels:,
what
we
keep
keeps
us..
I
think
we
all
need
to
come
together
and
keep
this
place
and
let
it
keep
us
as
somewhere
to
enjoy
a
picnic.,
listen
to
the
boulder
opera,
watch,
a
classic
movie.
go
see
an
art
exhibition,
dine
in
sip
tea,
and
in
the
glorious
splendor
of
the
tea
house,,
as
well
as
buying
vegetables
and
fresh
flowers
at
the
farmers.
Market.
it's
in
the
very
heart.
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A
Abby
daniels:
district
will
engender
civic
pride,,
but
it
does
so
in
a
place
that
our
beloved
creek
runs
through
it,
and
it's
beautifully
frame.
Vistas
of
the
mountains
brings
the
community
together
day
after
day
after
day..
This
district
will
bring
us
together,
if
we
can
collaborate
on
the
future.
re.
Imagining
of
this,,
together
with
other
city
departments
and.
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Chelsea
castellano:,
we
would
be
able
to
get
the
information
that
is
needed
to
truly
understand
what
the
boundaries
of
the
historic
district
could
be,
or
what
the
validity
of
the
historic
district
is
like..
When
I
think
of
a
historic
district.,
I
want
to
go
in
knowing
and
having
the
information
that.
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Chelsea
castellano:
hinging
on
tonight's
decision,,
but
something
that
I
think
a
lot
about,
and
one
of
the
things
that
I
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
voted
no,.
The
last
time,
which
I
still
feel
now
is
that
this
area
sees
thousands
of
people
walking
through
it.
Every
single
day,
and
the
fact
that
we're
only
hearing
from.
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Abby
daniels:
so,
ronnie,.
Do
you
mind
if
I
just
make
a
few
comments,
chelsea??
Thank
you
for
your
comments..
Thank
you
for
your
point
of
view..
I
totally
respect
that.,
I'm
going
to
push
back
a
little
bit
because
the
input
from
the
people
who
use
the
park
every
day
actually
happens,.
I
think,
after
the
initiation,
happens,
and
my
concern
with
this-
is
a
year
ago,
you
know,.
We
were
told
not
to
support
the
boundary.
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Lucas
markley
boulder:
the
time
requirements.
may
be
waived
if
mutually
agreed
upon
by
the
board,,
the
applicant,
and
the
owner..
What
that
means
most
likely
is
that
the
city
and
the
applicants
would
have
to
mutually
agree
in
the
form
of
a
tolling
agreement,,
so
that
would
be
a
written
agreement
that
the
city
has
used
on
occasion.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:
an
amazing
person
on
our
staff
helping
us,
and
that
we
should
respect
that.
and
I
do
so.
I'm
grateful
that
marx
is
here,
and
I
really
feel
like.
I
have
to
say
that,
because
it's
hard
to
digest
when
I
hear
this.,
that's
not
to
diminish
anybody's
experience
that
they
may
be
frustrated
because
they
understand
why
you
would
be
as
well.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
totally
in
agreement,
it
jointly
with
the
applicants
to
extend
the
timeline
to
provide
time
to
do
the
the
work
that
we
described
before
is
that
that?
absolutely.,
that's
correct?
yes,,
so
I
think
that's
a
good
approach..
I
think
that
it
is
something
that
we
could
work.
With.
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Abby
daniels:
going
back
and
forth
about
it?,
I
do.
if
it
comes
to
tolling
agreement?
and
I
actually
remember,
years
ago,
when
historic
boulder
was
engaged
in
a
tolling
agreement
with
the
moving
of
johnson's
corner,,
and
we
have
that
with
the
walls.
walnut
street
property,
marty,.
I
think
you
said
something
I
just
want
to
clarify.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:
try
to
instigate
that
discussion
with
the
applicants?.
I
think
it
would
be
valuable.
okay?,
so
I
think
that's
at
least
3.,
so
it
looks
like
it's
all
for
and
since
I'm
making
this
up,,
you
know,
anybody.
Else,
you
know,,
staff,
you're,
welcome
to
make
it
up..
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
start
with.
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Bob
muckle:,
I
could
I
marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:.
I
could
take
that
on
marcy.
If
you
want,,
I
mean
alex.
well,,
I
I
would
just
say,.
If
you're
asking
my
opinion,
ronnie,,
it
would
be
to
not
figure
this
out
at
110'clock
on
a
zoom,
call.
my!.
My
request
for
my
preference
would
be
that
we
hear
your
intent,
which
is
to.
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Ronnie
pelusio
lmb:.
This
resolution
is
passed
with
the
understanding
that
the
applicants
are
willing
to
extend
the
timelines
and
sections
9,
11,
4,
and
9,
11,
5
brc.
1,981,
to
allow
the
cla.
and
other
necessary
components
of
the
process
to
be
completed.
Prior
to
the
designation
hearing
described
in
section
9,
11
5.
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Abby
daniels:,
you
know,
and
I
know
this..
I
know
there's
competing
interest
in
multiple
departments,
and
I
do
understand
that.,
but
I
think
ultimately
this
is
a
legacy
that
everyone
who
is
supporting
it,
everyone
who
is
working
hard
to
get
a
cla,
completed,
and
so
forth..
I
do
think
this
will
be
a
real
cause
for
celebration,
and
we'll
be
leaving
something,
you
know,
again
for
future
generations.
and
thank
you,
bob
leonard.
katherine.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
crowdsourced
orientation
and
then
maybe
we
look
towards
a
retreat
in
the
fall.
once
the
new
member
has
had
a
meeting
or
2,
and
then
a
reminder
that
it'll
be
a
full
8
months,.
But
this
term
is
technically
only
8
months,
long,
and
then
they'll
have
the
option
to
reapply
for
a
5
year
term
in
march.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
so
I'm
guessing
the
applications
are
as
well..
I
will
say
we
had
2
highly
qualified
people,
and
I
think
I
can
share
who
that
is,,
which
is
renee
goblick,
is
an
architect..
You'll
recognize
her
name
from
last
meeting
where
she
was
the
architect
of
that
accessory
building
does
work
in
historic,
districts.
kind
of
the
theme
of
her.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
drop
your
head
around
around
that
one..
So
then
the
only
other
thing
that
I
had
for
you
all
under
matters
is
that
we
wanted
to
follow
up
on
the
board's
discussion
last
month
about
proposed
changes
to
the
ldrc.
staff
has
met..
We
did
a
little
brainstorming
workshop,
a
couple
of
weeks,
ago,
and
we'll
come.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:
okay,,
and
that's
all
we
have.
if
anyone's
curious.
Why
I
put
this
picture
up,,
there's
no
reason
other
than
I
was
looking
for
a
fun.
historic
photo.
I
hadn't
seen,
and
I
absolutely
love
her
hair,
and
it
kind
of
matches
the
decorative
porch.
and,
if
you're
curious..
This
is
a
house
in
the.
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Marcy
gerwing,
principal
planner:,
that's
embarrassing.,
chelsea
castellano:
okay,,
it's
late..
I
know
someone
mentioned
waiting
for
coffee
to
discuss
the
totally
agreement.
I'm
waiting,
for.
oh,,
that's
cool..
Everyone
appreciate
this
cold
photo..
Here's
the
entire
house
of
your
oh,,
my
goodness,
cool,
cool.,
that's
awesome.!.
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B
Abby
daniels:,
so
you
guys,,
thank
you
for
this,,
you
know,,
and
this
was
a.
This-
was
a
hard
issue
to
do,
you
know,,
but
thank
you
for
taking
the
time
and
staff
for
staying
and
hanging
in.
While
we
have
this
kind
of
robust
discussion.,
but
I
think
it
was
very
important..
We
haven't
done
a
straight
district
since
2,006.,
so
it's
a
lot,,
you
know.