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Sam
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cob:
thank
you.
so,
thanks
to
community
members
for
joining
the
open
space
board
of
trustees,
study
session
tonight.
so,
as
karen
mentioned,,
just
a
reminder
that
there
is
no
public
comments
scheduled
for
this
evening..
We
typically
review
slides
with
rules
of
public
engagement
at
the
start
of
our
regular
business
meetings.
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osmp:,
yeah.,
thanks,,
karen.,
welcome,,
everybody,
and
and
thanks
for
joining
us
on
a
a
cold,,
mustery
night,,
just
a
kind
of
a
reminder
of
how
we
ended
up
with
the
study
session..
This
was
a
session
that
was
initially
scheduled,
for..
I
believe
it
was
a
january
business
meeting,,
but
due
to.
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Dan
burke;
cob
osmp:,
so
the
work
of
climate,,
science,
and
climate
resilience
touches
nearly
every
work
group
of
the
department,.
And
that
is
why
we
structured
the
presentation
tonight
in
in
in
ways
that
you'll
hear
from
several
staff
members,
during
the
presentation
and
and
and
throughout
our
deliberations
and
discussions
with
the
board.
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burke;
cob,
osmp:
and
also
wanna
welcome
one
of
our
colleagues
and
partners
over
at
fire
and
rescue..
So
with
that,
I'm
gonna
call
your
name
if
you're
supporting
tonight.
and
if
you
could
just
briefly
introduce
yourself
in
your
title,
and
maybe
just
a
brief
area
of
work
that
you
do
related
to
this.
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Kerry
webster:
great
thanks
for
having
me..
This
is
actually
day:
2
0n
the
job.
so
learn
what
my
role
will
be,
and
working
on
to
develop.
What
that
looks:
like.
moving
forward,,
I
came
over
from
about
5
years
with
boulder
county
with
the
sheriff's
office,
with
the
fire
management
program.
s0
0perations
has
been
more
of
my
focus
in
the
last
several
years.
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Dakota
anderson:
so
dakota
anderson:.
I
wanted
to
start
with
just
a
summarization
of
where
we,
at
with
the
state
of
climate
change,,
both
at
a
global
level
and
also
at
a
local
level..
So
first
I'm
going
to
take
a
look
at
the
global
level.
here.
A
lot
of
these
highlights
are
just
high
level
summarizations
and
things
that
I
took
from
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change,
which
is
a
part
of
the
united
nations.
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Dakota
anderson:
data
from
being
out
in
the
field
all
the
time.,
but
we
do
actually
have
some
data
from
our
human
dimensions
team
that
we
can
look
at
to
support
this..
So
what
that
graph
there
is
showing
you?.
Is
it
showing
you
the
number
of
visits
to
the
chatauqua
trail?
and
there
are
the
same
friday,
just
a
year?
Apart..
The
blue
line
is
showing
you
a
typical
september
day
with
a
high
in
the
sixties.
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Dakota
anderson:
and
what's
really
interesting
here-
is
that
dakota
anderson:,
the
number
of
visits
to
the
chatauqua
trail
were
actually
pretty
similar
between
the
2
days.
but,.
As
you
can
see,
on
that
really
hot
day,,
there
was
a
massive
spike
in
the
morning,,
followed
by
a
massive
decrease
in
the
afternoon.
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Dakota
anderson:
that
graph.
there
on
the
right
is
a
great
visual
representation
of
this..
So
what
that
graph
is
representing
is
the
number
of
acres
burned
from
2,000
t0
2020
in
a
visual
pie,
graph,
and,,
as
you
can
see
one
year
of
that
21
year,
graph,
takes
up
more
than
a
quarter
of
the
pie.
Chart.
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Dakota
anderson:,
and
I
do
also
think
it's
important
to
note
that
this
doesn't
mean
that
every
fire
is
going
to
be
massive
and
intense
in
an
event
like
a
coward
or
a
marshal
fire..
There
are
plenty
of
examples
of
fires.
Popping
up,
such
as
the
end
car,
fire,
or
the
sunshine
canyon,
slash
to
need
a
fire.
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Dakota
anderson:
so
now
that
we
kind
of
have
a
better
understanding
of
how
climate
change
is
affecting
us..
Now
I
want
to
talk
about
this
idea
of
fire
adapted
and
resilient
communities.
and
again,.
This
definition
is
that
human
populations
and
an
infrastructure
can
withstand
wildfire
without
loss
of
life.
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Dakota
anderson:
now
again,
the
work
that
osmp
has
been
doing
over
the
past
few
decades,,
and
these
projects
have
really
always
been
directly
tied
to
climate
action.,
so
we
didn't
have
to
change
any
of
these
projects..
This
was
more
looking
at
these
projects,
and
promoting
these
projects
in
a
different
light.
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Dakota
anderson::
these
programs
are
also
going
to
dakota
anderson:,
be
very
targeted.
so,,
while
they
will
be
open
to
the
general
public..
We
are
also
going
to
be
working
with
boulder
fire
and
some
of
the
hos,
so
that
we
can
provide
these
programs
directly
to
the
communities
that
are
in
the
wild
and
urban
interface,
and
that
are
going
to
be
most
affected
by
wildfires.
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Dakota
anderson:
since
kind
climate
change
is
so
complex,
and
it
touches
all
of
the
topics
that
we
teach
about,.
We
want
really
wanted
to
figure
out
ways
to
be
able
to
integrate
this
in.
and
now
that
we
feel
that
we
have
successfully
done
that,
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
climate,
education,,
specific
programs.
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Dakota
anderson:,
so
another
big
part
of
our
work
is
our
public
outreach..
This
is
our
everyday
communication
to
the
community
and
our
visitors,,
whether
it's
at
the
chicago
ranger
cottage,,
the
trail
head,
there,
or
any
of
the
trails
across
our
system..
Our
outreach
team
really
strives
to
be
that
smiling
and
welcoming
face
of
osmp.
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dakota
anderson:.
Now
I
know
all
of
you
were
updated
on
climate
change,,
education,
and
youth
in
a
recent
meeting.,
but
I
did
want
to
highlight
this
nature,
connection,,
action,
and
hope..
This
is
an
amazing
collaboration
from
different
organizations
around
boulder..
That's
really
focusing
on
nature,
connection.
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Dakota
anderson:
next
slide,
please.,
dakota
anderson:,
so
to
summarize..
These
are
some
of
the
recent
and
upcoming
enhancements
that
you
can
expect
to
see
for
fire
adapted
and
resilient
communities.
Again..
Most
of
this,
I
just
covered,,
but
really
it's
increasing
our
presence
on
the
land,,
both
uniform
staff
and
volunteers.
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Dakota
anderson:
really
targeting
our
programming
to
certain
audiences
and
the
topic
of
fire
and
climate
change,,
and
also
really
making
sure
that
our
staff
are
up
to
speed,
knowledgeable,
and
trained
in
these.
I,
in
these
topics.
in
fact,,
we
have
more
red,
carded
education
and
outreach
staff,,
and
ever
we're
looking
to
red
card.
Even
more..
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:,
you
know
we
are
dealing
with
chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
ecosystems
that
are
fire
adapted..
These
these
areas
need
to
burn..
They
have
burned
and
they'll
burn
again..
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
doing
the
right
land
management
to
have
the
right
kind
of
healthy
fire
in
the
right
places
on
the
landscape..
So.
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Chris
wanner-
cob,
osmp:
and
and
a
lot
of
this
language,
chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:,
goes
across
many
of
our
our
resource
management
plans
from
our
grassland
plans
for
us
planned
ag.
Plan.
the
language
is
an
identical,,
but
but
some
of
the
thoughts
are
so
maintaining
our
enhancing
native
plan
and
animal
species,,
their
communities,
and
the
ecological
processes
that
it
sustain.
Them,
and
reducing
the
welfare
risk
of
forest
and
human
communities..
So
again,
a
lot
of
overlap
with
those.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:,
when
you
can
reintroduce
fire,
and
it's.,
you
know
it's
got
its
own
challenges,,
but
lots
of
benefit
to
come
along
with
it,
and
then
fuels
management..
This
is
this
is
a
picture
of
the
end
car
area
directly
the
day
after
the
the
fire
was
put
out,
and
you
can
see
you
know
it's.
It's.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
s0,
0f
course,.
I
gotta
talk
about
the
flip
side
of
of
what
those
conditions
can
lead,
to,
and
and
what
you
know,
more
extreme
fire
behavior
might
look
like.
and
you
know
again,.
The
marshal
marshal
fire
is
is
one
that
we
have
an
example
right
on
right
in
our
backyard
and
on
our
landscape.
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wanner-
cob
osmp:
in
this
case,,
just
just
a
few
months
before
the
end
car
fire,
and
a
very
different
outcome.
extreme
winds
over
a
100
miles,
an
hour.
dry
conditions,,
you
know,.
After
a
long
stretch
of
drought,
lack
of
snow
cover
in
a
mix
of
these
wild
land
and
urban
fuels
all
led
to
the
devastating
outcome
of.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
in
the
case
of
the
marshal
fire
it,
it,,
it
shifted
a
little
bit
of
how
we
think
about
fuels,
and
where
we
think
about
fuels
and
and
what
those
transitions
are.
you
know,
grasslands,
burn,
and
grasslands.
Again,
are
are
adapted
to
burn,
and
in
the
case
of
the
martial
fire
was
a
quick.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
ditch
fuels
that
have
been
accumulating
over
years
and
years,
and
you
know,
if
those
are
adjacent
to
communities
or
adjacent
to
homes,.
Those
are
those
are
definitely
things.
We
want
to
incorporate
int0,
0ur,
management,,
going
forward
and
and
thinking
bigger
scale
in
these
grassland
fuel
types..
So.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
and
then
planning
for
recovery.,
so
seed
collections
a
lot
of
the
stuff
that
dakota
was
talking
about
with
our
volunteer
efforts,.
You
know,
really
making
sure
that
we're
prepared.
if
we
do
get
a
fire
to
respond
with
native
sea
or
native
plant
material
and
and
getting
things
on
the
ground,
that.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
our
ecological
management
plans,.
You
know
everything
from
our
forest
plan:
implementation,
t0,
0ur
grassland
plan
and
vegetation
to
agriculture,
you
know,
addressing
fuels
along
ditches,
like,.
I
said,
and
working
with
our
our
local
ditch
companies
to
address
fuels
and
clean
up
so
lots
of
different
things
going
on
that
that
address
these
landscapes.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
and
then
finally
planning
efforts..
You
know
everything
from
the
community
of
wildfire
protection
plan
to
funding
research
and
grassland
fuels,
as
well
as
digital,,
just
trying
to
get
a
better
understanding
and
a
better
handle
on
where
the
risks
are
related
to
these.
These
kind
of.
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Brian
anacker
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osmp):,
where
we'll
be
doing
all
the
work
that
turns
out
to
be
climate,
action
for
spending
vegetation,
management,,
a
projects,,
ditch
projects.
and
implementing
all
the
enhancements
that
you
heard
described,
above,,
including
getting
carry
onboarded
and
up
to
speed,
and
other
stamping
changes
that
go
along
with
that.
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anacker
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osmp):
front
range
open
space
research
symposium,,
which
is
a
joint
production
with
all
the
kind
of
parks
and
just
kind
of
open
space.
We
get
together.
okay,
it's.,
it's
supposed
to
be
every
other
year.
We
offer
this.
This
year.
it'd
be
friday
or
14
at
the
ceo
sikh
building
east
campus
percy
of
boulder.
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been
open,
house,,
4,
25.,
brian
anacker,
(cob,
osmp):
alicia,
and
I
and
others
are
working
on
the
carbon
projects,
and
when
to
come
back
to
speak
to
you
as
early
as
summer.,
we
also
plan
to
get
some
updates
on
some
fire
effects.
Monitoring
that
we've
been
doing
around
the
martial
player,,
both
in
the
upload
and
grassline
contacts.
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Brian
anacker
(cob
osmp):,
the
engagement
opportunities
are
really
going
to
have
several
opportunities
to
be
village,
with
community.,
we'll
likely
use
the
open,
space,
master
plan
open
house
as
one
of
those
engagements,,
but
that's
just
something
to
do
right
now,.
But
we
could
expect
to
see
a
consultant
there
with
the
table
about
the
cwpp
and
gathering
some
feedback.
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Brian
oliver:,
and
and
not
only
discuss
how
we
got
to
their
their
rating
from
a
curbside
perspective,,
but
then
we
do
exactly
what
you..
What
you
said,
is,
recommend
those
changes
here
are
the
things
you
can
do
as
a
homeowner
that
will
reduce
that
risk,
level,,
whether
it's
living
trees
or
moving
grasses,,
changing
some,
you
know.
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Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
do
people
get
worried
that
they're
gonna
invite
by
voluntarily
signing
up
for
one
of
these
assessments
that
they're
gonna
get
citations,.
For
I
don't
know
any
of
these
random
things.
do
we?.
Can
we
message
that,
in
a
way
so
that
they're
they're
not
worried
about
it,
and
they'll.
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Brian
oliver:
yeah,,
absolutely.
and-
and
we
advertise
it
that
way
that
it
is
all
recommended.
they
recommendation
based,
there's
nothing
punitive..
We
don't
have
any
codes
on
the
books
that
that
require
enforcement
or
vegetation
management.,
so
it
truly
is.
we're
trying
to
use
the
the
carrier
instead
of
the
stick,
you
know,,
trying
to
get
people
to
help
themselves.
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Brian
oliver:
and
there's
also
no
dearth
of
sign
ups.
brian,.
Do
you
want
to
tell
about
the
backlog
that
you
have?
now
we're
getting.
we're
getting
close
to
it.?
We
we
were
kind
of
piecemeal,
together,
and
and
keeping
up
with
it
after
the
marshall
incident
and
the
incident
there
after
we
were
faced
with
about
500
and
some
mod.
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Brian
oliver:,
a
home
in
a
in
a
red
category
or
a
high
risk?,
and
now
an
insurance
company
is
going
to
raise
somebody's
rates
or
or
not
providing
shares
coverage
anymore..
So
we
reached
out
to
all
the
local
providers
that
we
could
find,
and
kind
of
gave
them
our
feel
and
our
scope
of
work,
and
because
they're
looking
at
things
from
from
so
many
different
risk
levels.
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oliver:
and
then
we
can
give
that
certificate
to
the
insurance
carrier.
we've
been
providing
them
with
an
insurance
discount
for
being
a
a
a
fire,,
wise,
home,
or
or
I've
done
that
that
fire
work
to
to
reduce
their
risk..
So
we've
got
to
build
that
program.
In.
we
just
don't
have
haven't,
had
the
capacity
up
till
now.
and
now
we're.
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oliver:
to
municipalities
and
unincorporated
as
the
county.,
so
that's
that's
just
now
starting
to
get
built
up
at
the
state
level.,
but
here
in
the
city,
there's
there's
not
been,,
at
least
in
my
circles.
there's
not
been
any
talk
of
of
imparting
any
kind
of
ordinances
or
rules
like
that
yet..
I
I
I
will..
I
will
definitely
pre
it
with
yet.
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cob
osmp:,
as
as
has
looked
at
the
knowledge
that
yeah,
we
probably
should
have
had
a
section
on
on
ignition
mitigation
to
go
along
with
sort
of
the
more
of
the
traditional
prevention.
mitigation,
undergrounding
power
lines
is
brought
up
to
us
from
the
community
members
as
a
potential
mitigation.
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burke;
cob
osmp:
causation,
because
it's
not
just
open
space.,
but
you
know
all
the
recent
let's
fires
over
the
last
10
years..
I
don't
you
know
well
what,
whether
or
not.
you
want
to
contribute,
how
many
of
them
to
cigarette
smoking
or
not?
and
then,
maybe,
burton,.
Maybe
you
could
chime
in
with
dakota
on
the
elements
of.
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Dan
burke;
cob
osmp:
any
more
enhancement.
We
could
d0
0n
high
risk
days
from
an
open
space
department,
and
I
know
there's
other
things
that
this
we
experimented
with
at
the
city,
wide
and
regional
level,
on
on
red,
flag,
days,
and
maybe
in
bryant..
Maybe
you
can
touch
upon
a
little
bit
of
that,
too.,
but.
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Caroline
miller:
it.,
just
yes,,
I
I
agree
with
you
just.,
and
it
makes
sense
that
it
would
be
super
hard
to
track
it.,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
know
the
actual..
You
know
facts
from
what
we
all
probably
think
are
the
reasons
that
these
get
started,
and
knowing
you
know
where
the
truth
really
lies,,
because
then,
obviously,
then,
the
mitigation
efforts
could
be
more
focused
in
those
points.
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Dakota
anderson:
sure.
yeah,
thank
you,,
burton.
so,
yeah,.
One
thing
I
would
talk
about
is
our
effort
to
increase
presence
on
the
land..
You
know
this
is
one
of
the
enhancements
coming
from
dan,
this
year,,
so
that
includes
uniform
staff,
such
as
rangers
and
education
outreach..
It
also
includes
volunteers.
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Dakota
anderson:
and
so,
caroline,,
one
thing
that
you
were
pointing
to
is
sort
of
what
we
think
of
as
the
authority
of
the
law,
right?.
Writing
somebody
a
ticket.
one
thing
that
we
focus
a
lot
on
with
education.
Outreach
is
the
authority
of
the
resource..
So
this
is
the
idea
of
teaching
people
about
the
resource,
why
they
would
want
to
protect
the
resource,
and
why
they
would
want
to.
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Dakota
anderson:
practice
fire
safe
practices
and
responsible
recreation.
so,
for
instance,.
If
we
see
you
know
somebody
smoking
a
cigarette
at
the
chatauqua
trail,
head,
we'll
go
up.,
we'll
engage
with
them.,
we'll
stay
a
friendly
face.,
we'll
even
tell
them
like,
hey?.
I
I'm
not
law
enforcement.,
I'm
not!
Writing
you
a
ticket.!
I
just
want
you
to
know
that.
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Dakota
anderson:,
we
don't
allow
smoking
here.
and
here's
why,
instead
of
just
giving
them
a
ticket
and
telling
them
that
it
can't
happen.
Here,
we'll
explain
to
them
that
fire
safety
piece,,
you
know
we'll
explain
to
them
the
history
of
fire
and
boulder,,
and
why
we
want
to
protect
these
lands
and
a
lot
of
times..
You
know
that
friendly
face,
kind
of.
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Dakota
anderson:
teaching
them
about
these
things,,
but
a
lot
of
people,
that's
enough
for
them
to
want
to
put
out
that
cigarette
and
to
not
continue
to
do
it
into
the
future.
so,.
While
both
are
very
important,,
you
know,,
the
authority
of
the
law
is
obviously
very
important..
The
authority
of
the
resource,
and
the
approach
that
we
can
take
an
education
outreach
is
a
little
bit
easier
to
implement.
as
burnt
was
saying..
Everything
else
has
to
go
through
the
court,
so
hopefully
we
can
sort
of
be
that..
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Dakota
anderson:
one
thing
that
I
I
can
speak
to
that
I've
been
working
on
recently.
Is
I've
been
working
with
a
lot
of
sort
of
like
the
outdoor
gear
companies
in
boulder.,
so
think
of
like
neptune,
mountaineering,
right??
That
is
a
place
that
has
a
very
big
community
presence..
So
we
have
been
working
with
them
to
get
our
messaging
out.
That
way.
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Dakota
anderson:
so
far.,
it's
been
a
really
great
relationship
that
we've
been
able
to
build
with
these
organizations,,
especially
as
we
try
to
get
to
audiences
that
normally
we're
not
reaching
right
a
lot
of
our
public
programming..
It
kind
of
caters
to
a
certain
demographic..
A
certain
demographic
continues
to
show
up.
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Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):,
excellent.
yeah,.
I
was
just
thinking
like,
and
I'm
not
signing
them
up
for
this.
but,
like
the
boulder
climbing
community,.
They
have
a
really
good
social
presence,
and
if
you
know,,
if
they'd
be
willing
to
spread
the
word
when
about
these
kinds
of
fire
prevention,.
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Dan
burke;
cob,
osmp:,
volunteers
and
service
learning
partnerships
is
going
to
present
their
updates
of
their
work.
Group.-
and
so
I'll
put
a
bug
in
here
in
here,,
about
partnerships
and
and
and
all
the
organizations
that
we
that
we
work
with
in
our
community.,
and
maybe
she
could
bring
full
that
some
of
that
in
into
her
april,
presentation.
no,.
There's
you
know.
yeah.
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Brian
anacker
(cob
osmp):,
I
can
start
an
answer,
and
then
we
should,,
if
you
have
anything
to
add,
please.,
I
mean,
I
think,.
That
could
definitely
be
part
of
the
presentation
we
can
bring
back
to
the
board
later.
This
year,
and
the
distinction
I
would
immediately
make
is
that
there's
the
city
of
boulder,
and
then
there's
o.
and
p.,
and
some
of
the.
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Brian
anacker
(cob
osmp):,
our
former
retreat,,
and
I'm
not
seeing
it
there..
I
don't
think,
there's
any
reason
you
wouldn't
be
willing
to
share
it,,
but
I
think
what
we
would
want
to
do
is.
When
we
come
back
to
talk
about
all
things,
carbon
management,
ocp:,
we
would
include
bread
to
sort
of
set
a
stage
for
us
about
those
different
baselines..
I
know
there
is
a
bit
of
a.
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alexander
(she/her)
osmp:
we're
actually,
as
you
speak,,
as
you
were,
mentioning
karen,,
we're
right,
now,,
working
at
and
analyzing
the
graphs
and
the
images
and
working
on.
As
brian
mentioned,
an
engagement
plan
on
how
we're
going
to
roll
that
out,
and
we
need
to
start..
We
will
be
working
with
our
staff
internally
to
talk
about
our
strategies
and
priorities.
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kuntz:
so,
karen,.
I
have
a
question
for
chris
and
dan..
You
know
I'm
sounding
like
a
broken
record
on
the
benefits
of
prescribed
burning
for
scrape
fire.,
but
I
do
think
that
the
city
of
boulder,,
as
as
a
municipality,,
has
some
of
the
most
extensive
experience
in
managing
prescribed
burns
over
the
years,
and
my
question
is,.
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kuntz::
are
we
trying
to
change
the
protocols??
Are
we
trying
to
get
more
focus
on
the
effectiveness
of
the
importance
of
prescribed,
burning
or
not?,
I
I'll
start
off
very
generally.
and
then
brian
and
chris,
brian,,
oliver,
and
chris
could
could
chime
in
one
thing,
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
note
of
of.
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Dan
burke;
cob
osmp:
group
on
on
getting
prescribed,
burn
on
the
system
is,.
We
just
had
some
staff
gaps
and
capacity,
issues.
kerry,
webster,.
One
of
one
of
the
reasons
of
many
of
why
we
brought
that
position
on
was
to
help
provide
us
more
capacity
to
be
able
to
not
only
complete
our
prescribe,
burn
plans
that
are,
that
are,
that
is,
a
pre
requirement
for
the
system.,
but
then
to
actually
get
more
fire
out
on
the
system..
So
carrie
will
be.
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Dan
burke;
cob
osmp:
adding
some
a
much
needed
staff
capacity
from
the
os.
and
p.
perspective
to
be
more
effective
partners
with
brian,
oliver
and
his
group,.
I
would
say
that,
in
terms
of
state
policy
yes,,
there
is
a
small
window
of
all.
The
conditions
need
to
come
together
in
order
to
successfully
put
a
but
burn
on
the
ground.,
and
we
did
have.
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oliver:,
you
know.
brian
oliver:
oh,.
We
have
a
plan
for
this
place
right
now,,
but
none
of
our
prescriptions
line
up..
If
we
have,
you
know,.
That
might
not
be
the
case
on
the
other
side
of
the
system..
So
so
this
is
building
up
those
plans.
and
and
again,
that
that
increased
capacity
is
going
to
help.
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wanner-
cob
osmp:.
What
are
the
restrictions??
What
are
those
challenges?
and
and
they've
been
pretty
open
to
working
with
us,?
And
you
know,
they've
kind
of
said.
well.
tell
us
your
challenges,
and
we'll
try
to
adapt
or
adjust
just
based
on
what
you
need..
So
I
think
there's
there's
some
desire
and
an
understanding
of
the
importance
of.
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Chris
wanner-
cob
osmp:
you
know.,
usually
available
resources.,
aren't
an
issue,.
You
know
we
can..
We
can
get
enough
people
to
join
hands
around
a
prescribe
fire
if
we
really
wanted
to,.
So
usually
it's
it's
wind
and
fuel
conditions,
and
you
know,
getting
all
those
things
to
line
up
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
our
our
objectives.
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kuntz:
much
dave
kuntz:
less
than
it
is..
If
you
have
a
wildfire
going
on,,
and
so
it's
like,
are
we
able
to
get
some
trade
offs
or
understanding
of.?
You
know
we
we
may,,
you
know
I
have
some
discomfort
or
inconvenience
on
the
one
hand,
but,
on
the
other
hand,
you
know,,
it's
gonna
be
much
more
beneficial
in
the
future.
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Brian
oliver:
community
messaging
piece
and
getting
people
to
understand
that
a
little
smoke
now
is
a
whole
lot
better
than
you
know
that
big
big
cloud
of
black
smoke
for
days
on
our
end,,
because
we've
got
another
controlled,
wildfire.
so,
being
able
to
to
to
rebuild
some
of
that
public
trust,
and
and
get
some
more
smoke
in
here,
and
and
people
become
a
little
more
accustomed
to.
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Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
there
before
you
go
there,
karen,
can
I?
just
yeah,
this
is..
My
comment
is
closely
related
to
what
we've
been
talking:
about.
chris.
you're,
the
only
person
at
least
earlier
on
in
the
presentation.
that
said,,
you
know
the
fire
is
a
key
part
of
our
native
ecosystem.
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Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
and
I
think
all
of
like
osp
staff,
probably
had
early
reading
of
the
big
burn,,
but
that
was
like
a
recent
reading
for
me,
and
really
eye
opening.
and
and
you
know,
understanding
that
fire
is
really
important
and
and
messaging
that
to
the
community,,
especially
when
it
comes
to
prescribed
burns..
But
you
know,
around
the
messaging
generally,.
It's
like.
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Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):
yeah,.
I
know
you
don't
like
the
smell
of
accounts.,
but
in
but
look,
this
is
what
is
gonna
help
our
community
be
more
resilient
and
just
drawing
those
connections
for
people,,
especially
when
it's
really
fresh
in
their
minds..
Sorry
to
use
the
word
fresh
around
cows,,
but.
K
Michelle
estrella,
osbt
(she/her):,
but
to
be
like,,
oh,,
yeah.
and
then
like,.
So
they
can
really
just
understand
the
importance
of
all
the
different
techniques
that
and
tools
that
you
have
to
help
mitigate
fires
on
on
open
space.
Lands..
That's
just
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
in
part
before
we
left
that
topic.
thanks,
karen.
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Karen
hollweg:
yeah,,
that's
an
important
message..
I
I
don't
know
whether,
michelle,,
you
listen
to
the
council
meeting
right
after
the
mo.,
the
in
car
fire.,
but
there
were
people
who
came
and
testified
at
that
city.
Council,
meeting,
saying,!
Thank
you
for
the
capital..
Thank
you
for
grazing
those
land..
So
I
think.