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Board
&,
commissions:
or
community
may
find
of
interest.
the
one
I
wanna
highlight
because
we
are
in
our
summer
travel
and
vacation
season
is
that
tonight
you're
going
to
talk
about
the
first
draft
of
our
historic
places,
plan.
and
you
have
that
scheduled
for
action
in
july.
and
so,,
just
as
a
reminder
as
rosa
sends
out
meeting
details..
If
you
would,
let
us
know
planned
attendance
to
make
sure
we
have
a
quorum.
That'll
be
critical,,
especially
because
we.
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E
Board,
&,
commissions:
and
so
we'll
be
working
with
the
chair
and
vice
chair
to
schedule,
logistics
for
that,
and
anticipate
bringing
you
a
brief
item
at
your
july
meeting
to
get
input
on
sites
that
will
align
with
our
capital
improvement,
plan,
and
where
we
would
benefit
from
having
an
onsite
conversation..
And
so
we
are
working
on
keeping
that
meeting
very
light
for
you,
so
that
it
can
be
site
based
conversations
about
some
of
our
upcoming
capital.
Projects.
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Other
than
that,,
I
would
just
call
your
attention
to
everything
in
the
department,
events
and
items
of
interest..
There
is
a
lot
going
on
in
our
community.
This
summer.,
the
social
streets
experiment
began
yesterday
with
roller
pelosa
on
thirteenth
street..
I
have
2
working
legs
today..
So
that's
pretty
exciting.
After
in
line
skating
with
my
daughter.
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Board
&
commissions:,
and
with
that
I
just
I
would
encourage
you
to
always
look
at
this
and
know
what's
going
on
in
the
community
upcoming
meetings.
and
as
a
reminder,.
This
is
also
an
opportunity..
If
board
members
have
items
they
would
like
discussed
in
the
agenda.,
you
could
mention
that
for
the
chair
and
vice
chair
to
bring
to
the
agenda
setting
meeting
that
we're
having
tomorrow.
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E
Board
&
commissions:,
that
is
our
understanding.
however,.
I
will
note
that
if
any
community
member
has
joined
us
virtually,
and
intends
to
speak
at
the
public
hearing.
that
is,
item
5,
a.
I
believe.
that
they
should
communicate.,
there
is
a
form
online,
or
you
could
put
your
name
in
the
zoom
chat
for
our
board
secretary
to
pay
attention
to.
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A
Board
&
commissions:
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
from
the
slide
on
kind
of
decorum..
The
city
is
engaged
with
community
members
to
co-create
a
vision
for
productive,,
meaningful,
and
inclusive
civic
conversations..
This
vision
supports
physical
and
emotional
safety
for
community
members,
staff
and
council
and
board
members,,
as
well
as
democracy.
for
people
of
all
ages,
identities,
lived
experiences
and
political
perspectives.
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Maryann
briggs:
and
may
have
been
lined
with
many,
have
been
lined
with
pickle
ball
lines
which
prevents
us
from
having
league
matches
there.
you
may
or
may
not
know,,
but
the
colorado
tennis
association
does
not
allow
official,
usta
and
cta
matches
to
happen
on
courts
that
are
lined
with
pickle
ball.
Lines.
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Maryann
briggs:,
so
there
needs
to
be
the
opportunity
to
spontaneously
show
up
at
a
court
in
the
city
of
boulder,
and
be
able
to
play
some
fun
tennis
with
family
or
friends..
I,
personally
have
never
been
a
member
of
a
tennis
club,
and
have
not
had
the
opportunity
to
play
indoors
throughout
the
year..
So
in
my
dreams,.
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H
Matt
richtel:
all
right.
listen.,
I
I
grew
up
in
first
of
all,.
Many
thanks
for
having
me..
I
grew
up
in
boulder,
and
I
thank
miss
briggs
for
her
comments,,
because
I
I
want
to
echo
some
of
them
when
I
grew
up
here
as
a
kid..
Tennis
was
a
thing
for
more
affluent
kids
who
could
belong
to
places
with
courts,,
particularly
in
winter.,
and
now
I'm
a
dad
with
teams
who
play
tennis,
and
I
play
myself,,
and
things
have
changed
over
the
years
here
and
elsewhere,
and
humbly,,
but
with
urgency..
I
just
want
to
ask.
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H
Matt
richtel:
in
winter
and
summer.
we
need.,
we
need
facilities
for
that..
There
are
so
many
people..
I
am
aging
myself,
sixties
and
seventies
and
eighties,,
who
find
recreation
and
fitness
to
community
members
across
the
country
have
found
a
way
to
accommodate
tennis,,
even
ones
more
land,
starved
than
boulder
san
francisco,
to
wit,
has
a
recent
opening
of
a
wonderful
facility
that
allows
year
round
play.
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Matt
richtel:
and
finally,-
and
this
is
the
most
important
midpoint
I'll
make
tonight.
please,
please,.
Please
do
not
engage
in
magical
thinking..
This
is
happening.
The
closure
of
courts.,
it's
happening
imminently.
for
months
I
and
others
have
been
in
conversation
with
miss
rhodes.
thank
you,,
ali.
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A
Dewi:
we
can
hear
you.
okay.,
I'm
just
gonna
go
ahead
and
start..
I
don't
see
a
timer.
My
name
is
day..
We
win
my
husband,
brad
hayes
and
I
moved
to
boulder
from
massachusetts.
2
years
ago.,
our
small
town
of
23,000
had
11
good
quality,
public
tennis
courts
at
the
high
school,
junior
high,
and
at
a
public
park.
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J
J
Leonard
segel:
historic
boulder
has
appreciated
being
included
as
an
expert
stakeholder
at
several
informational
meetings.
during
the
research
phase
of
this
project.
Some
of
our
members
have
contributed
many
hours
of
time
to
review
the
text
of
the
hip,
and
have
offered
corrections
to
make
the
report
as
accurate
as
possible,
to
comply
with
state
historic
fund
grant
stipulations.
Since
we
received
the
new
hip
report,
this
past
friday,,
several
of
our
expert
volunteers
reviewed
the
new
documents
in
the
very
short
period
of
time
over
the
weekend.
J
J
Leonard
segel:,
and
on
july
twelfth,
the
city
preservation
landmarks
award,
will
have
a
public
hearing
about
the
district
application.
as
you
know,
central
park,
was
designed
by
the
most
famous
landscape
and
planning
company
ever
in
the
history
of
america..
The
firm
of
frederick
law,,
homestead
and
sons
is
one
of
the
very
few
parks
by
the
olmsteads
that
is
west
of
the
mississippi..
Others
include
yosemite
park,
berkeley,
and
the
stanford
university
campuses.
J
Leonard
segel:,
historic
preservation
is
certainly
warranted
for
this
treasured
property
in
the
heart
of
boulder..
Be
assured
that
a
historic
district
does
allow
selective
changes
over
time,.
Its
creation
will
also
provide
the
opportunity
to
begin
to
rebrand
the
neighborhood
as
an
attractive
community
asset.,
and
the
third
topic
just
really
quickly
is
a
cultural
landscape
assessment,
that's
being
promoted
by
parks.
recreation,
staff.
historic
boulder
appreciates
that
the
staff
is
interested
in
the
history
of
central
park.
J
Leonard
segel:,
I
can
assure
you
that
this
area
is
one
of
the
most
heavily
researched
parts
of
boulder
because
of
the
many
landmark
approval
processes
for
all
the
properties
in
and
around
the
park..
In
the
opinion
of
historic
boulder,.
There
is
no
reason
that
the
cla
should
hold
up
the
landmark
district
designation,
process.
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K
K
Greg
mionske:
the
city
of
boulder
stands
to
lose
over
25
courts
in
the
next
few
years..
I
believe
that,.
In
addition
to
losing
the
courts,,
we
send
to
lose
what
is
a
very
vibrant
tennis,
community.
adequate
court
space
for
teaching
programs
is
essential
to
the
growth
and
development
of
players
at
all
scale.
Levels.
K
K
Greg
mionske:.
I
can
also
help,
but
include
a
word
about
the
needs
of
the
wheelchair,
tennis,
community.,
accessible
courts
and
broadcast
programs,,
like
the
ones
that
are
in
pc.,
currently
offer
cough
or
sorry.
excuse.
Me,
currently
offer
individuals
with
disabilities.
the
chance
to
engage
in
physical
activity,,
develop
skills
and
build
a
strong
sense
of
community.
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K
K
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A
B
Board
&
commissions:
yeah,,
thanks
to
everyone
who
who
called
in
and
for
those
comments.
you
know,.
We
talked
about
this
a
little
bit
last
meeting,
tina,.
When
you
presented
on
that
kind
of
status
of
the
courts..
You
know
clearly
there's
a
there's:
an
interest
in
a,
a,,
a
demand
for
indoor
tennis.,
and
so
it
seems
like.
B
Board
&
commissions:
2
things
I
you
know
we
should
probably
board
&
commissions:
in
any
kind
of
re
thinking
of
a
rec
center.
That
should
probably
be
part
of
that
conversation
about
what
that
looks.
Like..
I
have
no
idea
what
this
costs,,
but
you
know
that
this
there's
clearly
demand
there,
and
obviously
for
the
loss
of
all
the
current,.
You
know,
indoor
places
to
play.
B
Board
&,
commissions:
and
secondly,
again,.
I
don't
have
any
sense
of
the
cost
here.,
but
it
seems
like
there
maybe
would
be
an
opportunity
for
some
kind
of
partnership
with
the
university,,
with
the
school
district
to
to
tent
current,.
You
know.
current
outdoor
facilities
to
allow
indoor
use,
and
you
know,,
possibly
recoup
some
of
the
funds
through.
B
B
B
L
L
Board
&
commissions:
that
outline
in
that
scope.,
so
we
can
kind
of
go
back
to
that
again
and
look
at
in
this
court
system
plan..
What
we're
looking
at
is
explore
an
alternative.,
so
the
outcomes
of
this
plan
will
even
start
to
look
at
locations
and
alternatives
and
indoor
and
outdoor.,
and
then
we're
kind
of
think
about
it
in
the
terms
of
as
you've
seen
a
million
times
the
physically
constrained
action
and
vision
right?.
What
can
we
do
to
take
care
of
what
we
have??
L
L
Board
&
commissions:
partnerships
or
different
additional
funding.,
and
then
the
vision
generally
kind
of
goes
into
that
sort
of
larger
vision..
Those
larger
types
of
partnerships,
also
included
in
that
would
be
identifying
potential
future
partnerships.
and
it
will
be
looking
at
things
like
if
there
was
an
indoor,
facility,
or
potentially
something
like
the
bubble.
That
is
currently
at
rocky
mountain
tennis
like,.
What
does
that
look
like?
and
does
that
make
sense
for
us?.
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Board
&
commissions:
sure,,
it's
very
loud..
I
notice
that
the
the
budget
line
item
for
the
court
for
program
increased
substantially..
I
know
I
know
this
is
probably
discussed
last
week
that
I
wasn't
there
last
month,
and
I
wasn't
here..
But
could
you
just
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
what
the
additional
budget
will
be
used?
For.
L
Board
&
commissions:,
so
what
we
had
been
looking
at
previously
was
about
$60,000
per
year.
That
was
bumped
up
in
that
in
the
early
years
to
do
some
resurfacing
of
courts.
and
then,
as
you
get
further.
Out,
is
actually
replacing
the
tennis
courts
with
post
intention,,
which
has
a
longer
lifespan.
and
then
there's
also
the
addition
of
some
took
a
ball
courts
at
east
boulder,,
so
you'll
look
at
that.,
and
so
it
bumps
up
exponentially
by.
L
M
M
L
Board
&
commissions:,
I
think
when
we
did
that,,
though
the
2
things
that
have
arisen
are
the
explosion
of
took
a
ball
in
the
community.
so
then,
having
to
share
those
courts,
and
then,.
In
addition
to
that,,
our
community
is
really
feeling
the
heat
from
several
other
private
courts
that
are
coming
out
of
the
system..
They
were
private
courts,,
but
could
be
reserved
or
used
publicly..
So
they're
feeling
that
stress
on
both
sides.
E
Board
&
commissions:
and
I
guess,
since
I
am
unmuted,
I'm
just
gonna-
add
that
all
of
these
are
exactly
the
questions
that
we'll
be
exploring
through
the
court
system.
Plan,
and
I'd
love
to
speak
to
the
community
members
listening..
We
thank
you
for
joining
us
on
your
monday
evening,
and
I
just
want
to
call
out..
I
I
hear
folks
saying,.
You
know
that
maybe
they
they
don't
feel
heard
because
we
don't
have
shovels
in
the
ground
right
now
on
tennis
courts.,
but
we
do
serve
a
community
of
106,000
people.
E
Board
&
commissions:
and
anything
we
build
monies
we
spend,
we
have
to
be
very
thoughtful
and
make
sure
we're
doing
it
for
the
whole
community.,
but
for
both
tennis
and
pickle
ball..
I'm
excited
about
the
work
ahead.
we've
allocated
staff
resources.
we've
allocated
dollars
for
this
work,
and
by
the
end
of
the
year,
we'll
be
looking
at
final
recommendations
for
a
court
system.
Plan.
E
Board
&
commissions:
one
other
thing
I'll
just
add
for
community
members
listening..
If
you
want
to
stay
up
to
date
on
that
plan,,
including
as
there's
progress
and
opportunities
for
input,,
if
you
just
google,
boulder
parks
and
recreation,
racket,
sports.,
there's
a
feedback
page
where,
if
you
give
us
some
feedback,,
we'll
capture
that
email
and
add
it
to
the
email
list
for
this
project.
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A
A
A
Board
&
commissions:
of
the
new
golf
facility.,
it
looks
fantastic,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
buzz
at
the
event
about
this
facility,
and
it's
going
to
be
so
great.
and
it
was
great
to
get
community
engaged
with
community
members
and
city
leaders
at
that
groundbreaking,,
and
it
was
awesome
to
be
able
to
hold
the
shovel
in
my
hand
and
pose
for
that.
Picture.
A
C
A
B
Sorry
is
that
a
question
on
that?
board
&
commissions:
we're
going
to
go
back
to
that
list
again,
another
time?
right..
So
that's
I
was
noted.,
it's
actually
an
item
under
the
matters
from
the
board.
Tonight,,
so
you'll
be
able
to
discuss
the
list.,
so
we
got
names
thrown
out
and
penciled
in.
and
it's
an
item
for
you
all
to
explore
later
under
matters
from
the
board.
A
E
Board
&
commissions:.
Thank
you
so
much..
So
this
item
is
going
to
be
presented
by
a
senior
landscape,
architect,,
tina
briggs,
and
I
just
want
to
call
out
a
theme.
Here.
court
system
plan,
flat.,
aaron's,
golf
course,,
historic,
places.
teama
is
bearing
an
incredible
workload
on
our
team,
and
we're
so
grateful
to
have
her
because
she's
doing
really
great
work
on
some
really
important
projects.,
so
tina
is
going
to
be
joined..
I
just
want
to
personally
think
that
mercy
growing
is
here..
She
is
a
principal
plan.
E
E
E
Board
&
commissions:,
while
they're
getting
to
organize.
also,,
just
thank
kj
for
being
here.
christopher
johnson,
is
the
senior
comprehensive
planning
manager
with
planning
development
services,
part
of
the
long
term
planning
and
historic
preservation
team
as
well,
and
so,
having
their
expertise
here..
We
really
appreciate
you
guys
being
here.
F
L
L
L
Board
&
commissions::
the
presentation
is
going
to
be
about
the
historic
places
plan
however,.
There
are
2
kind
of
adjacent
projects
that
are
happening.
on
one
of
the
properties.
and
so
we're
gonna
change
the
order
a
little
bit,,
because
in
the
memo
they
were
attachments.,
but
because
we
have
the
folks
from
planning
and
development
services
here.
to
run
through
what
that
historic
district
process
looks
like.,
we'll
touch
on
that
first,
and
we'll
touch
a
little
bit
on
the
cultural
landscape,
assessment,
and
then
we'll
just
jump
right
into
the
hip.
L
L
O
L
Board
&
commissions:,
see?
right?,
so
the
adjacent
pro
projects
that
we're
talking
about,
and
then
we'll
do
the
project
overview
of
the
hip,.
Just
to
remind
us
what
the
purpose
is.
and
then
looking
at
the
process
and
outreach,
and
how
we
got
to
where
we
are
today,
and
then
you'll
see
that
chapter
content,,
like
the
3
big
building
blocks
of
this
project,
where
the
his.
L
Board
&
commissions:
start
context,,
the
condition
assessment,
and
then
the
recommended
actions..
When
we
talk
to
you
in
february,
we
didn't
outline
of
the
historic
conduct
text
and
condition
assessment
and
shared
that
information
with
you
then..
So
we
aren't
going
to
go
through
that
again..
You
certainly
have
access
to
it
via
the
project
page..
If
you
want
to
go
through
and
look
at
that,
you're
welcome,
to.,
we'll
focus
on
the
recommended
actions
tonight
and
explain
kind
of
what
those
are
and
how
those
will
affect.
L
Board
&
commissions:
our
system.,
so
with
that,,
I'm
going
to
give
it
over
to
christopher,
who's,
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
civic
area,
historic
district
application
that
was
submitted.
and
for
I
know
you
guys
have
heard
a
little
bit
about
that
in
the
past,.
So
I
won't
go
to
too
too
much
detail.
but,
christopher,!
If
you
want
to
introduce
yourself
and
take
it
over.
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
great.
thank
you,
tina,,
and
thank
you
all
for
that
introduction
earlier..
As
I
mentioned,
my
name,
is
christopher
johnson,,
I'm
the
comprehensive
planning
so
oversee
within
planning
and
development.
Services.
our,
our
long
range
land
use
planning..
So
the
boulder
valley.
comprehensive
plan
is
really
the
the
focus
of
a
lot
of
our
work..
But
the
historic
preservation
program
is
also.
O
O
O
O
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
and
as
part
of
that
process
ultimately
went
to
city
council,
and
the
staff
recommendation
was
not
to
expand
that
boundary.
in
lieu
of
a
more
comprehensive
and
intentional..
You
know
research
into
and
exploring
of
a
historic
district,
as
opposed
to
just
addressing
that
one
particular
individual
landmark.
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
by
itself.
kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
so
we
have
been
working
with
parks
and
recreation
staff
through
the
beginning
of
this
year
to
develop
really
a
strategy
for
that.
and
what
that
looks.
Like.
and
and
tina
will
speak
to
you
about
that
cultural
landscape
assessment,
which
is
ultimately
what
we
had
landed
on.
The.
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
groups
and
the
individuals
that
were
interested
in
that
band
shell
expansion,
originally,
and
then
also
very
much
advocating
for
this
historic
district..
They
have
the
ability
to
submit
an
application
on
their
own,,
and
that
is
what
has
has
occurred.,
and
so
we
received
a
complete
application
from
them
on
may
thirtieth..
So
about
a
month.
Ago.
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
so
ultimately
that
would
all
land
and
go
towards
a
recommendation
or
a
designation,
hearing
with
the
landmarks
board,
and
then
also,
historic
districts
are
reviewed
by
planning
board
for
any
land
use
implications
and
then
ultimately
move
to.
City.
Council.-
so,
based
on
our
schedule,
we're
and
looking
at
really
a
realistic
timeline
of.
O
O
O
O
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
that
historic
designation
may
already
apply
to
landmark
structures.,
and
so
you
know,
the
application
of
the
district
really
wouldn't
have
too
much
of
an
effect,,
but
because
the
district
would
also
apply
to
those
areas
between
the
existing
landmark
structures..
That
certainly
would
be
within
the
purview
of
of
this
board
and
of
this
department..
So
we
would
want
to
explain
really
what
that
means
for
future
changes
going
forward.
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
the
second
point,
of
course,,
would
be
as
we
are
developing.
those
do.
The
draft
design
guidelines.
we
would
want
to
have
input
from
from
this
board,
and
also
the
landmark
board.
you
know,.
We
haven't
figured
out
a
lot
of
this
out
in
detail,,
but
we
would
anticipate
possibly
a
joint
meeting
to
where
those
trap
design
guidelines
can
be
reviewed
and
discussed.
O
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
so
this
is
the
boundary
that
is
proposed
within
the
application..
You
can
see
there
that
it
includes
the
penfield
tate
municipal
building,,
where
you
are
this
evening
generally
follows
the
creek
down
to
the
to
the
east,
into
the
south,,
to
arapaho,,
comes
up
thirteenth
street
and
then
over
to
fourteenth
and
back
along
canyon..
So
it
includes
central
park.
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
itself.,
the
5
individual
designated
landmarks,
that
already
exist,,
which
are
the
the
municipal
building,,
the
band
shell,,
the
atrium
building,
the
the
boca
building
and
the
duchamp
bay
t
house
and
then
also
would
include
portions
of
broadway
and
thirteenth
street,.
The
plaza,
that
space
that
is,
between
the
inter
and
the
t
house,
and
then
also
includes
the
parking
lots
behind
those
buildings.
O
Kristofer
johnson,,
cob:
and
really,
that's
kind
of
the
overview
and
description
of
the
application.
That's
been
received.,
so
the
marcy
and
the
rest
of
the
historic
preservation
staff
are
working
very
diligently
on
the
memo
and
materials
that
will
be
available
at
this
link
here,
and
also
on
the
landmark
board.
Website.
O
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
I
believe,
a
week
prior
to
the
meeting.,
so
that's
coming
up
fairly
quickly.,
and
certainly
we
are
here
to
answer
questions
this
evening,
and
also
marcy,
and
I
will
be
available
down
the
road
as
well..
If
you
have
any
questions,,
you
are
more
than
welcome
to
reach
out
directly.
E
Board
&
commissions:
oh,.
The
light
is
green.
yeah,
no,.
I
think
it
doesn't
that
you
can't.,
there's
no
camera
there,
and
you
can't
present
from
there.
okay,.
I
will
also
be
a
disembodied
voice.
This
evening,,
except
for
you,
all.
thank
you.
kj,
for
that
overview..
I
just
also
wanted
to
introduce
myself,
marcy
growing
principal
historic
preservation,
planner,
and
the
purpose
of
tonight
is
really
to
let
you
all
know
that
an
application
has
been
submitted.
P
P
Board
&
commissions:
it
kicks
off
this
6
to
8
month,
process,
or
if
they
choose
not
to,
but
we
wanted
to
get
ahead
of
that..
Let
you
all
know
that
we're
thinking
ahead,
that
we
want
you
all
to
be
involved
in
this
process.
and
then
also,
just
to
answer
any
general
questions
that
you
have,
but
know
that
there's
plenty
of
time.
in
the
code
process
for
us
to
next.
L
L
Board
&
commissions:
jump
in?
okay.
board,
&
commissions:.
I
I
I
do..
I
want
to
recommend..
We
pause
there.
if
there
are,,
because
I've
heard
question,.
If
there
are
questions
about
what
the
historic
just
application
means,
or
the
process
is
it?,
does
it
work
teen?
if
we
pause
there
and
make
sure
we
get
questions
out
about
what
it
means
in
the
process.
thank
you..
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
board.
B
Board
&
commissions:,
I
just
had
a
question..
It
sounds
like
all.
The
structures,
are
already
designated,
the
municipal
building,,
the
tea
house,
and
then,
when
we
deal
with
this
issue,
really,,
when
it's
just
the
banshell
area.,
there's
a
there's,
a
level
of
protection
already.,
so
what?,
what?
yeah,,
that
someone
mentioned
that
this
is
come
to.
B
P
Board
&
commissions:
diagram.
there.
board
&
commissions:
there
we
go.
okay.,
so
the
proposed
boundary
is
central,
park.
and
so,.
As
you
mentioned,
part
of
central
park
is
currently
designated
as
part
of
the
v
shell
site,,
and
then
it
would
extend
south
all
the
way
to
a
rappaho,
and
then
would
include
the
already
designated.
P
Board
&
commissions:
community
building,,
atrium
tea
house
and
bemoca
building,,
and
then
the
the
districts
also
proposed
to
include
thirteenth
street,,
broadway,,
the
thirteenth
street
plaza,,
and
then
the
parking
lots
behind
those
buildings
and
along
14..
It's
kind
of
the
area
in
between
those
5
landmarks.
B
B
What
it?,
what
is
the?
board,
&
commissions:
and
I
understand
the
kind
of
the
vision,
here,
and
having
a
comprehensive
area..
But
you
know
what
what
is,
I
guess?.
What's
the
point
of
the
the
larger
designation
versus
kind
of
individual
or
the
smaller
ones.
great
question.,
and
I
think
the
biggest
difference
between
individual
landmark,
designation
and
a
historic
district
is
the
ability.
P
P
P
Board
&
commissions:,
landmark
sites,,
there's
so
much
change
on
pearl
street
with
the
different
businesses
going
in
and
out.,
but
I
would
say,
in
general,
parks
are
very
stable.
Areas,
though
they
change,
they
evolve,.
They
kind
of
reflect
the
current..
I
don't
know
ways
we
recreate.,
but
compared
to
the
rate
of
change
across
the
city,,
I
would
say,
parks
tend
to
be
more
stable.
M
P
P
P
P
A
Board
&
commissions:-
I
just
want
to.,
so
thank
you
for
your
presentation.,
but
also
I
just
want
to
firm
up
kind
of
the
timeline
and
the
perhaps
role?.
So
maybe
you
can
help
me
with
that,
just
to
make
sure
the
public
understands
what
we
have
to
do
with
this..
So
from
what
I
understand,
is,
there's
been
an
application
submitted.
A
A
P
Board
&
commissions:
structured
process,.
I
would
say,
in
terms
of
the
community
engagement.,
it's
written
more
for
property
owners
in
mind,,
but
to
go
through
the
community
engagement,
and
then
the
review
process..
So
the
landmarks
designation
hearing
on
the
twelfth
is
whether
this
process
starts
or
not.
P
board
&
commissions:,
I
think
that's
july
to
october
or
november..
Is
this
pretty
intensive
period
where
we
would
meet
with
the
department
reps,
and
then
would
meet
with
you
all,
and
what
we
have
proposed,
and
our
thinking
of
coming
back
to
you
all
to
do
a
presentation.,
here's
an
overview
of
the
history.
here's.
What
historic
designation
would
mean
to
you
all,
and
to
this
site.
P
A
Board
&
commissions:,
you're
anticipating..
There
might
be
a
joint
session
or
a
study
session
between
this
board
and
the
landmarks
board..
That's
what
we're
thinking.
we're
open
to
your
thoughts.
if
you
feel
that
would
be
helpful.,
but
it
the
intent
there
is
to
have
you
all
involved,
and
to
meet
together
with
the
landmarks
board.
as
it's
the
2
boards
are,.
I
think,
the
most
involved
in
in
this
project.
right?
and
then.
A
L
Board
&
commissions:
okay.
so
to
further
complicate
this..
What
we
are
doing?
when
we
talk
about
the
cultural
landscape
assessment,.
This
kind
of
dialed
way
back
when
we
first
started
talking
about,
does
historically
designating
park,
property,,
which
is
slightly
different
than
what
you
would
think
of
as
a
structure,
for
example.,
and
so
we
looked
at
the
national
park
service
guidelines
of
what
it
would
look
like.
to
designate
a
park.
Space.
L
L
Board
&
commissions:.
It
was
attached,
and
attachment
in
the
memo,,
which
shows
that
it's
a
much
smaller
area.,
so
the
historic
district,
right
is
covering
the
application
as
submitted.
however,
we've
started
the
process
to
really
look
at
just
the
park
area
in
particular,.
Since
that
that's
what
we
have
the
most
pur
view
over
and
looking
at.
L
Board
&
commissions:.
What
if
it
is,
if
it's
significant,,
if
what
is
significant
about
it,
and
what
are
the
right
periods
to
be
looking
at
for
that?.
So
what
we're
hoping
to
do
is
have
this
completed
in
september.,
it's
more
of
a
research
document,
and
making
sure
that
you
have
the
right
information
and
solid
information
to
help
in
that
decision,
making
and
making
rest
recommendations
in
the
future.
B
Board,
&
commissions:.
I
think
this
came
up
in
the
public
comment
where
the
the
the
comment
was
that
this
was
a
and
I
don't
know..
I
think
it
was
that
this
is
an
unnecessary
step,
that
it
provided
another
layer..
It
sounds
like
it's
going
to
be
done
in
september,,
so
it's
not
that
time
can
be,
you
know.
B
Board
&
commissions:
want
to
like
to
things
too
much.,
but
what
is
the
response
to
that
kind
of
issue
of
whether
this
is
an
unnecessary
step??
I
don't.
I?
more
just
repeating
the
comment:
than,
yeah,
no,.
I
hear
you.
no,,
I
I
yeah..
I
mean
what
we're
talking.
About,
too,
is
right.,
it's
something
commonly
in
boulder..
We
haven't
designated
a
lot
of
park
spaces..
So
what
is
the
actual
process?
look
like?,
so
it's
kind
of
setting
that
precedent
moving
forward..
If
we're
going
to
look
at
another
parkspace,,
what
is
the
actual
assessment?
L
L
Board
&
commissions::
this
is
actually
kind
of
adding
information
to
that
boundary
out
to
all
of
central
park..
So
we
have
all
the
information
to
share
with
you.
so,
for
example,
right
now,.
If
I
asked
you,,
a
central
parks
should
be
designated
based
on
what
criteria
we
want
to
lay
that
out
for
you
just
to
help.
Look
at
it
and
see
what
that
picture.
Is.
E
E
L
L
Board
&
commissions:
the
properties
that
are
board
&,
commissions:,
currently
historically
designated
with
their
current
boundaries..
So
we
were
in
each
property
documented
well
and
at
the
same
level..
So
we
know
we
have
so
many
stories
about
some
properties
and
a
lot
less
information
about
others.
and
we
really
wanted
to
kind
of
focus
on.
L
Board
&
commissions:
the
hardcore
facts..
So
when
we
look
at
historic,
context,
we're
really
looking
at
the
facts.
and
so
you're
not
going
to
see
a
full
history
of
all
the
pr.,
the
properties..
So
if
it
feels
like
something's,
maybe
missing,
it
is
in
draft
form.
I'd
love
to
address
anything,
that's
missing,,
but
it
is
intentionally
kind
of
set
to
be
a
very
specific
set
of
like.
L
L
L
Board,
&
commissions:.
So
when
you
look
at
that,
another
thing
that
lynn
had
mentioned
is
he
doesn't
see
maintenance
pieces
in
there.?
This
isn't
intended
to
keep
the
maintenance..
What
we're
looking
at
is
future
capital
improvement
plans..
So
what
we
want
to
look
at
is
when
we're
looking
at
24
to
29.
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Board
&
commissions:
capital
improvement
strategy..
We
have
the
big
items
that
we
can
take.
look
at
together..
So
even
when
you
look
at
each
property,,
we
have
priorities.
then,.
When
you
look
at
all
the
historic
and
cultural
assets,,
we
have
to
prioritize
within
that,
and
then
that
has
to
fit
into
the
greater
system
as
well..
So
we
focus
basically
on
on
taking
care
of
what
we
have.
and
that
really
is
based
upon.
Even
that
is
a
5
to
10
year
plan
to
really
even
get
close
to.
L
Board
&
commissions:
and
then
there
are
a
few
pieces
on
there
where
we
would
love
to..
Have
this
documentation.
it's
set
in
stone.,
it's
something
we
can
share.
so
for
communication
education,.
Even
when
volunteers
are
asking
for
information,
we're
giving
everyone
the
exact
same
information.
excuse
me.,
and
then
it's
also
that
document
as
other
planners.
are
looking
at
the
system
that
they
might
be
doing
something
adjacent
to
our
properties,,
that
they
actually
have
something
to
look
at
as
well..
That
includes
some
treatment,
recommendations
and
things
that
they
should
consider.
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Board
&
commissions:,
the
red
section,
is
the
touch
points
that
we've
had..
One
is
public,
with
several
public
meetings
and
outreach,,
and
then
the
stakeholders
touch
points
with
each
of
the
properties
with
them
as
well.
As
you
may
know,
when
you're
doing
research
on
historic
properties,,
you
could
keep
going
forever
and
digging
deeper
at
at
1
point.
We
do
kind
of
need
to
put
the
pencil
down.,
so
that's
kind
of
where
we're
at.
L
Board
&
commissions:
and
then
you
can
see
in
the
blue
the
touch
points
that
we've
had
with
prab.
and
as
mark
this
board
as
well,
we're
nearing
the
end..
So
what
we're
looking
at
is
the
draft.
We
brought
you
the
draft
in
pieces
because
it
is
a
400
page
document.
That's
been
overwhelming.,
so
we
had
touched
on
the
meet
before,
and
we'll
just
kind
of
review.
The
priorities
tonight.
L
Board
&
commissions:,
again,
right?.
This
just
shows
us
what
was
in
the
historic
context
was
the
overview
and
the
boundaries,,
the
history,
the
significance.,
and
then
we
did
the
condition
assessment..
So
we
really
had
to
look
at
the
conditions,,
the
structural
integrity,
architectural
and
historic.,
and
then
what
are
the
current
issues?
and
all
of
that
bundled
together
helped
us
develop
the
treatment
guidance
with
that
focus
on
preservation
and
rehabilitation.
L
Board
&
commissions:
and
then
really
just
the
future
capital
investment
guidance..
What
you
won't
see
again
in
here
is
things
that
we
kind
of
hope
and
dream
for
in
the
future.,
so
not
that
this
document
in
any
way
share.
Our
form
will
like
will
prevent
those
opportunities.,
but
any
future
opportunities
that
would
enhance
the
properties
would
likely
come
within
a
project.,
like
you
would
see.
for
example,
with
the
civic
area.
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L
Board
&
commissions:
could
have
an
impact
that
we
have
this
basis
and
the
treatment
recommendations.
and
when
it
says,
critical
path
adjacent
to
other
planned
work,.
That's
where
I'm
talking
about..
If
there
were
projects
adjacent
to
our
property,,
let's
say
I
don't
have
a
good
example
of
as
a
transportation
project..
Perhaps
that
was,,
you
know.
L
Board
&,
commissions:
or
utility
project
that
was
going
through
the
project..
We
definitely
have
this
information
to
share
with
them.
just
to
start
the
conversation..
I
know
it's
available.
and
then
we
have
those
conversations
and
then
relative,
and
see
to
other
current
plans..
So
just
looking
at
all
the
other
plans
that
we
have
in
our
system.,
we
want
to
make
sure
they're,
aligned
and
working
together.
L
Board
&
commissions:,
so
glen
hunting
banshell..
What
you'll
notice
is
that
one
is
not
actually
posted,
online.
right
now,,
we
do
have
the
draft
ready.,
but
because
we're
doing
the
cultural
landscape
assessment
that
is
so
directly
related,,
we
pulled
it.
Up,
put
it
on,
pause
just
for
a
minute,,
so
we
can
finish
that
cultural
landscape
assessment
and
make
sure
all
the
languages
will
aligned
and
if
any
of
the
new
documents
rise,
we
can
share
it.,
but
the
hip
will
still
remain.
L
Board
&
commissions:,
because
even
if
a
little
bit,,
some
of
the
words
changed
because
of
the
outcome
of
the
culture,
landscape,
assessment,
the
meat
of
what
we've
learned
and
the
treatment
recommendations
inside
there
remain
the
same..
So
these
priorities
and
I'll
just
run
through
a
few
of
them.
right?,
is.
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L
L
L
L
Board
&
commissions:.
This
plan
didn't
go
to
the
level
of
actually
getting
someone
up
on
the
rough.,
so
the
recommendation
is,,
let's
get
someone
out
there
and
actually
look
at
it.,
see
what
that
you
know.
if
it,,
if
it
is
a
visual,,
if
that
needs
to
be
fixed,
or
if
there
is
actually
a
structural
window
treatments
or
something
that
we're
looking
at.,
partly
working
with
the
tenant,
but
partly
wanting
to
make
sure,.
Even
though
only
the
exterior
is,
you
know..
Let
let's
say
that
the
part
that
the
landmark
covers.
L
L
Board
&
commissions:
and
then
we
want
to
prioritize
those
within
each
other
and
then
within
the
greater
system..
Once
we
look
at
what
that
looks
like
in
the
capital,
project,
we're
going
to
put
cost
estimates,
together,
develop
those
project
plans,
and
then
those
can
actually
be
inserted.
and
then
you'll
have
timelines,
and
some
of
those
projects.
L
Board
&
commissions:,
just
yeah.,
so
basically,
the
outcomes
of
these,
right,
as
we
know
that
they're
going
to
put
into
the
capital
investment
strategy.
we're
also
looking
at..
You
know
what
we
can
do
this
year.
and
the
and
24
so
right,
now,
actually,.
This
says:
lac.
application,
submitted.,
landmark
alteration,
certificate.
L
Board
&
commissions::
it's
actually
approved
now.,
so
we
have
the
approval
to
do
these
in
the
next
well
with
it
by
the
end
of
2023,,
let's
say,
and
so
I
you
know,.
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
example
of
that
being
proactive,.
Now
that
we
have
this
list,,
it's
really
starting
to
it
easier
and
easier
to
insert
them
into
our
process..
So
this,
just
I
kind
of
to
me,
show
some
action
in
the
near
term
of
how
it
is
actually
being
used.
L
Board
&
commissions:,
in
addition
to
these
capital
projects,.
We
also
have
our
list
of
maintenance,
projects.
right?.
We
know
the
things
that
we're
the
small
things
that
we're
doing
that
are
just
regular
maintenance.
that
are
just
standard.,
so
we,
you
know,,
that's
not
something.
We
normally
talk
too
much
about
with
prep,
right?,
it's
just
our
our
regular
operations
and
maintenance.
L
Board
&
commissions:
the
order
a
little
bit,,
because
I
know
we
have
marcy,
and
christopher
on
the
phone?.
So
this
one
is
really
about..
Do
you
have
any
questions
about
the
sequencing
of
the
project?,
so
those
3
projects.?
You
know
they
all
have
slightly
different
timelines.
they
sort
of
fit
into
each
other.,
but
they
are..
They
all
also
do
have
their
own
process..
L
Board
&
commissions:
great?,
pretty
clear..
How
about
any
questions
about
the
technical
findings
like
how
we
we
form
those
and
the
priorities?
yeah,?
Could
you
go
through
the
the
details
of
how
you
did
all
the
technical
findings
for
each
of
those.?
If
you
would
like,
I,
I
could.
we'll
we'll
pull
up
the
400
page
document.
We
go
page
by.
no.
L
Board
&
commissions:,
it
was.,
it
was
fun.,
it's
I
mean,
it's
nice.,
and
so
there
really
are
several
technical
sub
consultants.
that
have
a
high
level
expertise.
that
we
sat
really
and
and
looked
at
those
priorities,
one
by
one.
and
in
some
cases
we
knew
we
had
some
things.
We
wanted
to
move
up,
and
in
some
cases
because
they
are
the
technical
expert,
they're
like,
no,.
This
has
to
stay
a
priority.
so.
L
E
Board
&
commissions:
yeah,.
We
are
going
to
do
a
little
shuffle
here.
we're
gonna.
Have
our
business
services
team
join
me
up
here
on
the
day
as
your
next
2
items
relate
to
financial
matters.,
so
we're
having
our
financial
team
come
on
up.
so
just
give
us
a
moment..
This
is
a
good
opportunity
for
a
bio
break..
If
anyone
needs
it.,
give
us
a
minute
or
2
to
shuffle
teammates
and
ready
to
go
in
just
a
minute.
D
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O
O
N
N
E
O
C
E
E
E
E
Board
&
commissions:,
presenting
this
item
is
our
senior
manager
for
business
items.,
jackson.
ha!,
our
business
services,
business,
items,
business
items,
that's
a
good
term
for
your
unit,
so
jackson
height
is
our
senior
manager
for
business
services
and
joining
joining
us
on
the
day..
This
is
stacey
hoffman..
She
is
a
senior
budget.
Analyst.
we've
got
some
really
great
people
on
our
team,
and
we'll
let
them
take
it
from
here.
Q
Q
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F
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:.
You
have
seen
the
perhaps
role
for
budget
development
before..
This
is
the
shells,
as
far
as
what
you
shall
be
doing.,
any
appropriation
or
expenditure
from
the
permanent
parks
and
recreation
fund
does
require
the
perhaps
approval..
So
what
we
are
looking
for
tonight
is
your
approval
of
that
which
will
then
go
to
the
playing
board
and
city
council.
Q
Board
&
commissions:
and
then
the
second
aspect
is,
when
we
get
to
the
operating
budget
we
are
looking
for.
The
prop
shall
make
recommendations
to
the
council
concerning
the
proposed
parks
and
recreation
annual
budget,
and
then
we
do
have
the
fee.
Policy..
This
is
being
brought
back
to
you
tonight.,
and
then
it
will
be
an
action
item
in
the
july
meeting.
to
continue
forward
with
the
process
that
we've
been
on
so.
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
I'm
just
going
to
remind
you
of
the
timeline
as
far
as
where
we've
been.
we've
been
talking
about
budget
and
numbers
with
you
since
march.
In
addition
to
the
top
half
of
the
screen
which
identifies
the
prep
touch
points,
we
have
met
with
city
council
at
their
may
study.
Session.
we've
met
with
the
community
connectors
and
residents
to
gather
feedback
from
an
equity
perspective.
Q
Board
&
commissions:
well,.
This
is
probably
the
last
touch
where
we
are
looking
for
your
input
on
the
budget..
We
still
have
6
months
left
in
the
year
to
go
through
the
budget
process.,
so
we
actually
have
submitted
all
of
our
preliminary
numbers
to
the
executive
budget
team
in
the
central
finance
department,,
and
they
are
spending
the
next
month
reviewing
the
work
that
has
already
been
done,,
and
then
they
will
roll
that
up
into
the
city.
managers
recommended
budget,,
which
will
be
shared
at
no
later
than
september..
First.
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
quite
the
marathon
we're
about
halfway
through.,
but
your
role
in
involvement
is
nearly
wrapped
up.,
that
being
said,.
We
do
plan
to
come
back
to
you
and
report
on
what
the
status
is.,
what
changes
are
made
through
the
recommendations
of
the
executive
budget
team.,
the
city
managers
recommended
budgets
as
well
as
planning
board
and
city
council.-.
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
so
finally,
diving
into
cip,
as
you
know,,
I,
the
cip,
is
a
next
year,
plus
a
5
year
outlook..
So
the
cip
encompasses
a
total
of
6
years.
The
first
year
is,
what's
actually
appropriated
through
the
budget.
Process.
well,
as
the
remaining
5
years
are
kind
of
what
is
planned
and
accounted
for.
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
so
back
in
the
study
session
in
april
mark
shared
with
you
kind
of
what
the
cis
6
year
plan
looks
like.,
and
this
is
a
cyclical
process
that
we
do
typically
go
through
every
year.
to
really
identify
what
the
big
spend
and
projects
are
or
projects
will
be,
over
the
next
18
to
24
months.,
but
then,
also
what
is
in
our
pipeline,,
so
we
can
start
the.
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
so
as
a
reminder,,
we
do
have
the
6
year,
cip,
the
2
year,
work
plan,
and
then
the
one
year.
cip..
What
we're
asking
you
to
approve
tonight
is
really
the
one
year
cip,,
since
that
is
the
appropriation.,
but
we
are
looking
at
it
holistically
with
the
overall.
6
years.
of
cip
funding.
Q
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:
as
a
reminder.,
both
of
these
graphics
were
in
the
2022
plan,,
and
everything
in
the
physically
constrained
column
is
addressed
at
some
point
in
the
6
year
cip..
So
we
do
want
to
highlight
that
we
are
really
taking
the
plan
and
implementing
it
and
using
the
recommendations
from
that
plan
to
help
us
guide
the
next
6
years
of
capital
spending.
Q
Board
&
commissions:
as
market
shared
earlier.
this
year,
the
updated
work
plan
categories
really
fall
into
asset
management,
which
is
taking
care
of
what
we
have,
the
parks
and
recreation
facilities,,
which
is
where
a
majority
of
our
funds
are
spent,
and
then
the
system
planning
the
system
planning
is
looking
a
bit
further
ahead
and
more
strategic
in
nature,,
whereas
the
other
2
categories
are
where
we
see
the
majority
of
our
spend.
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
so
we're
just
going
to
hop
right
into
the
different
categories..
As
far
as
it
relates
to
asset
management..
You
will
see
we
have
several
different
asset
categories
based
on
the
types
of
assets
within
our
system,
and
in
2,023.
We
really
took
some
of
the
direction
from
the
2,022
plan
and
started
allocating
out
to
different
asset
types.
Q
Q
Q
Board
&
commissions:.
We
do
have
a
few
numbers
in
bold
that
have
changed
slightly
from
the
agenda
that
was
sh!
or
the
prop
packet
that
was
shared
with
you
last
week..
We
have
just
continued
meeting
with
our
colleagues
in
other
departments
and
central
finance,,
and
this
has
resulted
in
some
minor
shifts
that
we
just
wanted
to
call
out
for
your
attention
to
me.
A
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board
&
commissions:
right
sure.,
so
that
will
actually
be
seen
on
the
next
slide..
If
you
remember,,
when
we
did
the
scott
carpenter
full
redevelopment,,
we
also
have
to
do
the
street
area
for
about
a
million..
So
we
had
that
programmed
under
general
maintenance..
We've
called
it
out
in
a
separate
project
for
2,024,
and
then
starting
back
in
2,025..
We
do
have
general
maintenance
in
the
plan.
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
just
given
the
overlap
with
where
our
planning
team
is
at
and
the
funding
is
at..
We
have
included
several
23
projects
that
are
shovel
ready
under
construction
or
about
to
go
through
community
engagement..
Just
as
a
reminder
that
these
are
in
the
work
plan,
and
we
don't
want
you
to
feel
as
if
they've
been
forgotten.
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&
commissions:,
and
then
we
also
have
projects
that
are
new
in
2,024,
or
have
some
existing
funding
in
2,023
for
the
design
work..
But
we
need
additional
funding
in
2,024
to
actually
complete
the
project.,
so
these
numbers
are
giving
you
more
of
what
the
total
project
cost
is
associated
with
it.
and
really
just
wanted
to
highlight
those..
Once
again,
we
have
bolded
2
numbers
on
here
that
have
shifted
around
since
the
prep
packet
was
shared.
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commissions:
and
then
in
2,024.
we
do
have
a
natural
land
system
plan,
and
then
a
nature
play
system..
Plan..
You
will
see
that
system
planning
is
the
smallest
portion
of
our
overall
cip
budget.,
just
because,.
These
plans
really
identify
how
we
spend
our
asset
management
dollars
as
well
as
our.
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the
equity
focus
be
brought
into
that
to
see
who
is
doing
what
in
absolutely
we,,
we
use
that
we
have
the
equity
instrument,
and
we
use
that
on
every
project.
We
do
didn't
share
nowadays
that
we
cover
all
aspects
of
equity,
and
that's
huge
improvement
by
the
city
over
the
last
few.
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&
commissions:,
so
in
terms
of
dollar
amounts.,
we
do
have
the
2,024
cip
by
fund.
as
a
reminder..
This
is
what
we'll
actually
get
appropriated
with
the
2,024
budget
and
because
this
is
split
across
funds,,
we
do
have
a
variety
of
different
funds..
The
3
funds
that
parks
and
recreation
really
has
the
greatest
control
over
and
considers
part
of
our
annual
capital.
expenses
are
the
point:
2
5
cents,
sales,
tax,
fund.,
the
permanent
parks
and
recreation
fund
and
the
lottery
fund.
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&
commissions:,
once
again,
you'll,
see
that
the
3,
dedicated
parks
and
recreation
funds
do
account
for
the
majority
of
the
projects
and
spend..
We
have
left
off
the
ccrs
projects
on
this
slide.
just
because
we
are
going
to
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more
in
detail.,
but
the
additional
funding
really
comes
from
development
impact
fees
which
will
be
going
towards
the
park
on
violet
and
boulder
junction,
associated
with
the
boulder
junction
pocket
park,,
as
well
as
the
east
mapleton
ball.
Fields.
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&
commissions:
so
collectively..
This
averages
out
to
about
7
million
dollars
a
year.
in
the
2,022
plan.
We
were
spending,.
I
believe,
5.6
million
a
year
in
cip,,
with
the
goal
of
getting
to
7.5
million
a
year
to
basically
meet
the
physically
constrained
environment..
So
we
are
making
significant
progress.,
but
this
still
isn't
fully
funding.
our
physically
constrained
vision.
Q
Board
&
commissions:,
and
with
that
we
did
want
to
provide
you
a
breakdown
as
far
as
where
the
dollars
are
going..
So
you
will
see
the
asset
management
accounts
for
almost
50%
of
our
spend..
We
believe
that
this
really
aligns
with
the
2022
plans,,
taking
care
of
what
we
have
theme
and
wanting
to
really
maintain
our
existing
assets
in
a
good
condition.
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Board
&
commissions:
and
then
the
additional
47%
is
going
to
parks
and
recreation
facilities.,
and
then
you
can
see
there
is
a
small
sliver
associated
with
system
planning.
once
again,
that
spend
is
smaller,
because
it's
really
creating
the
plans
that
inform
how
we
spend
the
remaining
dollar
amounts..
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sorry.
board
&
commissions:,
even
with
41
million
dollars
in
the
cip
budget..
There
are
certain
things
that
we
just
don't
have
the
full,
physically
constrained
action
or
vision
level.
Funding
that,
would
be
desired
to
meet
all
of
the
community
needs..
So
some
of
these
relates
to
maintenance,
enhancement,
and
then
obviously,
new
facilities,,
such
as
5
months
out
or
area
3.,.
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Board
&
commissions:,
so
with
that,
we
have
reviewed
everything.
We
do
have
a
2
suggested
motions
for
you,
tonight.
related
to
the
capital
improvement
program..
The
first
is,
recommending
the
expenditures
from
the
permanent
parks
and
recreation
fund
for
city
council
appropriation,
and
then
the
second
is
considering
the
entire
24
through
2,029
cip.
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commissions:
those
numbers
have
come
in
significantly
stronger,
based
on
2022
actuals,
and
then
the
ceo
economists
looking
forward..
The
city
has
taken
an
approach
to
kind
of
go
with
a
more
moderate
revenue
projection,
rather
than
a
conservative
ones.
That
they've
been
relying
on
for
the
past
3
years..
So
there
is
additional
revenue
there..
I
don't
want
to
paint
anyone,,
but
property
taxes
have
gone
up,
and
the
city
is
taking
a
rather
conservative
approach
to
what
property
tax
increases
will
be
just
based
on.
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&
commissions::
do
you
have
a
sense
of
how
that'd
be
prioritized??
If
once
that's
finalized,,
it
really
comes
down
to
staff
capacity
and
the
prioritization.?
So
I
think
that
mark
and
his
team
shared
up
the
cis
as
far
as
what
their
staff
capacity
is
and
priority
projects..
So
everything
that's
already
identified
as
2,023
projects
where.
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commissions:,
the
reason,
I
said,
it's
bureaucratic
is
we
got
a
little
process
to
go
through
the
rollout
asset
management,
program.
phase
2..
We
got
a
little
bit
delayed.
covid..
What
that
will
do
is
give
us,
you
know,
current
replacement
values.
Jackson
mentioned
earlier..
We
now
cost
estimating.
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&
commissions:
and
we're
supposed
to
put
2
to
4%
side
per
year
or
maintenance.,
but
we
know
that
will
be
huge
number.
once
we
get
through
that.,
so
we're
going
to
be
kind
of
realistic
about
what
is
who
a
condition,?
What's
fair
condition??
How
do
we
bring
that
up
to
power.
and
what
is
it
that
we
have
to
prioritize
within
budget
we've?
Got?.
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&
commissions:
and
what
we're
doing
is
we're
spreading
that
looking
at
the
cost.,
it
would
be
great
to
have,
say,
300,000
a
year.,
but
when
you
look
at
the
whole
as
a
management
system
that
says
this
percentage,
how
much
we
can
afford
to
invest
in
that
and
move
them.
From,
say,
poor
to
fair
condition
of
that
degree.
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commissions:
with
the
2,024
budget..
We
did
want
to
highlight
what
the
key
changes
are..
We
really
didn't,
spend
as
much
time
going
into
the
nuts
and
bolts
of
this
year's
budget.,
just
because
there
are
so
many
things
that
we
do
on
an
ongoing
basis
that
have
incremental
increases..
We
did
highlight
for
you
in
the
prep
packet.
the
areas
where
we
did
see
key
changes.
and
I
just
wanted
to
call
out
the
program
growth..
So
specific
examples
are
are.
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board,
&
commissions:
additionally,
maintenance
to
support
taking
care
of
what
we
have..
We
do
have
regular
maintenance
that
gets
embedded
into
our
operating
budget,,
such
as
the
cost
to
take
care
of
our
different
park
amenities.
and
just
the
routine
mowing
weeding,
blowing
of
all
of
those
areas..
So
we
are
seeing
cost
increases
for
basically
just
operations
of
our
costs.
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Board
&
commissions:,
something
that
the
city
hasn't
undertaken,
or
the
department,
I
should
say,
is
aligning
where
the
revenue
and
expenses
for
the
sports
field
rentals
are
coming
from.,
so
we
receive
revenue
and
the
recreation
activity
fund..
But
the
majority
of
the
expenses
come
out
of
the
point:
2
5
some
sales
tax,
fund.
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Board
&
commissions:
the
fund
as
a
whole
is
very
difficult
to
balance,,
based
on
perceived
revenues
and
expenses.,
and
it's
something
that
we
spend
a
whole
lot
of
time
with
you
on
each
year.
to
basically
lose
$500,000
of
general
fund
support
overnight
would
have
a
significant
impact..
So
what
we
are
asking
for
is
$250,000
of
contingent
subsidy.
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board,
&
commissions:.
You
will
see
that
our
recreation
center
visitation
is
still
below
2,019
levels.
and
that's
something
that
we're
struggling
with.
just
because
that
is
something
that
is
required
to
balance
in
order
to
balance
the
fund..
So
our
intention
is
the
general
fund
contingent.
Subsidy
would
only
be
relied
upon.
if
revenues
don't
outpace
expenses.,
and
we
have
that
as
something
that
would
stare
up,
down
over
time.
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&
commissions:,
as
well
as
board
&
commissions:,
any
existing
programs
that
are
in
place
that
we
could
share
with
those
community
members..
So
all
of
this
was
included
as
attachment
be
in
your
packet?,
so
you
can
see
exactly
what
those
services
are,
that
we
are
offering,
and
we're
happy
to
discuss
any
of
those
in
more
depth.
If
you
have
any
questions.
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&
commissions:,
so
we
had
gone
to
the
community
connectors
and
residents
and
had
a
very
good
turnout..
We
kind
of
went
over
the
similar
slides
that
we
just
showed
all
of
you.
and
really
post
the
question
to
them,
what
impact,
positive
or
negative?.
Do
you
see
the
fee
policy
having
in
your
community,,
and
it
was
great
open
dialogue
at
that
meeting.?
We
did
receive
a
lot
of
good
feedback.
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&
commissions:,
so
their
feedback
was
to
increase
subsidy
to
those
in
need
to
offset
the
higher
costs..
So
certainly
for
the
department
not
to
decrease
any
subsidy
levels
mean
team,.
Those
community
benefit
programming
to
the
best
that
we
could
and
then
really
try
to
explore.
Grant
opportunities
to
help
offset
those
costs
community
connectors
to
definitely
volunteer
and
ask
us
to
reach
out
to
them.
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board
&
commissions:
in
regards
to
the
financial
aid
program,
is
that
was
really
a
top
priority
for
them..
The
feedback
that
we
received
is
that
they
would
love
to
see
some
increased
communication
and
education
surrounding
the
program..
So
how
can
we
get
the
word
out
better??
How
can
we
explain
what
we're
offering??
What
programs
could
be
supported
by
financial
assistance.
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Board
&
commissions:
also,.
They
wanted
to
make
sure
that
our
forms
could
be
simple
to
complete
and
the
application
process
be
as
dignified
as
possible..
So
as
a
city?,
you
know,,
how
can
we
kind
of
streamline
that
process
if
someone
is
applying
for
aid
and
another
city
department,?
How
can
that
translate
over
to
parks
and
recreation.?
How
can
we
make
a
very
quick
and
easy
and
comfortable
process?
for
our.
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&
commissions:
community
members,
and
then
also
pursue
cooperative
agreements
with
older
bally
school
district.
in
just
working
with
the
district,,
as
many
of
you
may
or
may
not
know.,
they
will
be
going
to
a
free
lunch
program.
Next
year
there
used
to
be
a
letter
for
an
example
that
would
put
you
on
a
for
your
reduced
lunch,,
which
you
could
then
use
for
financial
assistance..
Can
we
work
with
the
district
and
see
if
something
can
be
in
replace
of
that,
just
to
keep
it
easy
for
them
to
keep
applying.
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Board
&
commissions:
for
it.,
so
really,
just,,
you
know,
feedback,
making
sure
that
that
financial
aid
is
stained
for
community
members.
and
you
know,
very
passionate
about
the
work
that
we're
doing,,
very
complementary
of
parks
and
recreation.,
and
you
know,
overall..
I
think
it
was
a
wonderful
feedback,
session,
and
great
to
have
that
opportunity
to
look
at
that
from
an
equity,
lens.
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This
was
really
based
on
the
feedback
the
prop
had
provided
you
have
that
exercise
where
you
kind
of
ran
through
on
the
spectrum,
where
you
thought
everything
would
fall,,
and
then
we
also
did
just
a
quick
snapshot
as
far
as
what
our
current
cost
recovery
was.
to
gauge..
Are
we
ball
per
close
with,
where
we
think
we
should
be?
at
the
end
of
the
day.?
We
do
need
to
try
to
balance
the
overall
budget
as
much
as
we'd
love
to
subsidize
everything..
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Board
&
commissions:
thank
you.,
very
much
understood.
and
board
&
commissions:.
We
had
heard
the
exclusive
versus
individual
aspects.
and
that
wasn't
changed
in
time.,
so
yeah,
I
mean,
I
can..
I
can
see
how
you
would
want
to
stick
with
exclusive.,
but
I
could
also
see
some
benefit
to
individual..
So.
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Q
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Board
&
commissions:
for
all
of
our
other
fees..
They
currently
live
in
the
guide..
We
have
over
3,200
fees
right
now..
The
intention
of
this
is
later.
this
year.
We
want
to
come
back
to
you
with
that
fee
schedule
and
simplify..
What
are
these
300
fees
that
we've
narrowed
it
down
to
to
be
able
to
share
with
you
and
the
public
and
have
it
front
thing
on
our
website?
As
far
as
what
is
a
fee
to
rent
a
rec.
center
for
1
h.
yep.,.
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&
commissions:.
The
goal
tonight
really
was
to
forge
for
your
input
and
improvement,
so
that
we
bring
in
back
in
july.,
you're
like,
yes,.
This
is
what
we
said,
2
thumbs
up,
or
we
would
say,
hey,.
We
heard
you
on
this
thing.
We
did
some
analysis
on
it.,
here's,
our
response.
and
here's
the
fee.
Policy.,
so
the
intent
really
is
to
to
get..
If,
if
you
have
any
questions
or
feedback.,
please
do
share
them.
Now.
don't
be
shy
so
that
we
can.
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&
commissions:,
as
we
were
doing
our
research
with
other
fee
policies?.
We
saw
that
there
wasn't
an
appeal
process
identified
in
most
other
policies.,
that
is
more
of
a
staff
administrative
process
as
far
as
how
to
identify
an
appeal..
So
we
did
not
include
an
appeal
section
in
the
policy..
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
we
still
need
to
clarify
on
exactly
what
the.
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&
commissions:
well,,
I
would
just
add
it..
So
here's
here's
my
dream,
world,
my
dream
world
is..
It
costs
us
a
hundred
dollars
an
hour
to
maintain
a
soccer
field.
Community.
here
is
our
rental
rate..
It
is
a
hundred
dollars
an
hour..
You
want
a
discount
on
that
great
show
us
data
on
how
you're
serving
the
community
through
scholars,
shipping
through
alternate
language
program.,
and
that's
how
you
achieve.
E
E
Board
&,
commissions:
and
everybody
has
that
rate.
you
you,.
We
create
a
process
by
which
people
can
lobby
for
discounting
right
by
showing
community
benefits..
So
that's
where
I
would
love
to
be,
rather
than
us
assigning
people..
Just
we
don't
have.
you
know,
we,.
When
we've
worked
on
this
for
space
allocation.
we've
had
a
similar
process..
We've
tried
to
allocate
pool
time
based
on
community
benefit,,
even
just
by
residency.
E
A
Board
&
commissions:
jason.,
just
on
that..
On
that
point
I
think
we
talked
about,,
maybe
at
their
our
study
session
on
this,,
but
it
wouldn't
just
be
kind
of
an
arbitrary
like..
Here's,
your
great.,
here's,
here's,
our
justification.
obviously,
with
a
clear
kind
of
these-
are
the
things
we
look.
For..
Here's
the
potential
discount.,
not
kind
of
one
group
gets,.
You
guys
get
a
20%.
because
you're
doing
this,
you
guys
get
to
30%
based
on.
B
Board
&
commissions:
jason..
I've
served
this
community
for
almost
20
years,
more
than
20
years.
now,.
I
guess
arbitrary,
doesn't
work
here,
and,
and
we
try
to
not
do
it.
never!,
it
wasn't
a
no,.
I
just..
I
agree
that
the
intent
is,
here's
no,,
I
agree,,
because
I
think
some
of
the
questions
we
get
from
user
groups
or
rowers
is,.
It's
not
clear.
It's
not
transparent..
It
feels
like
we're
in
some
back
room,
making
up
fees
every
year
and
just
tossing
them
out.,
and
so
the
the
hope
is
that
everything
is
transparent,.
Consistent.
E
Board
&
commissions:
understandable,
doesn't
mean
everyone's
gonna
support,
it.
right?.
I
want
to
be
clear..
That
is
not
the
goal..
It's
not
that
every
you
know,,
every
user
group
comes
to
us
in
january
and
says,
yay,,
you
increased
our
fees..
We
we,
you
know
we
were
excited.,
but
the
process,,
the
methodology.
it's
consistent,,
understandable,
and
and
people
get
it.
B
Board
&
commissions:.
What
my
specific
point
was:
like.
the
process
and
methodology
for
for
discounts
is
clear..
I
think
that's
like
you
got
more
important,
because,
you
know,.
Then
it
could
be
arbitrary..
I
mean
just
on
that..
What
is
what
is?,
I'm
sure
we'll
get
to
this
at
some
point.?
What
is
the.
B
B
E
Board
&
commissions:
is
done..
It
happened
during
the
engagement
of
the
last
2
years,
for
the
development
of
the
2,022
plan.
As
far
as
the
roll,
out
of
final
recommendations,
like
the
oh
got
so
the
final,
all
of
that
is
going
to
be
through
the
prep
conversations
in
the
fourth
quarter.
and
then
our
communication
with
user
groups.
is
that
is
that
your
question?
yeah.
and
we're
just,
you
know,
anticipating.,
I
mean,.
E
B
E
Board
&
commissions:,
a
general
communication..
I
I
I
don't
want
to
promise.
People
won't
be
upset
what
I
what
I
will
hope
for,
and
I
guess
all
I'm
looking
to
jackson
into
scott..
I
do
think
a
communication
strategy
around
general
community
engagement..
We
have
a
fall
guide
right
where
we
know
we
can
reach
45,000
community
members
that
we
can
talk.
About.
hey?,
you
know,
people
have
been
talking
about
this..
This
is
going
to
be
implemented..
I
also
want
to
just
call
out,.
I
mean.
E
Board
&
commissions::
I
I'm
trying
to
right
size,
expectations.
we're
going
to
do
everything
we
can
to
not
have
upset
people.
right?
we're
going
to
cap
increases
for
community
benefit
and
recreation
programs..
We
don't
want
to
have,
you
know,
50%
increases.,
that's
not.,
that's
not
fair
to
to
people
trying
to
recreate..
We
want
people
to
move.,
so
we'll
stagger
increases.
we'll
do
general
community
roll
out..
I
do
think
those
some
targeted,
focused
meetings
with
user
groups
is
actually
where
we
can
be
most
effective,
because
they
that
will
then
shape
how
they
communicate
with
their.
B
A
Board
&
commissions:,
I
would
just
add,
that,
you
know,.
We've
definitely
got
a
lot
of
comments
from
some
user
groups
who
are
upset
with
their
categorization.
and
we've
provided
a
form
for
them
to
explain
their
differences
of
opinion
and
their
thoughts
on
the
fee.
Policy.,
and
I
just
would
encourage
staff
to
continue
to
provide
open.
A
E
A
A
A
A
A
A
Board
&
commissions:,
so
just
like
a
as
is
typical
in
this
type
of
review,.
This
won't.,
the
next
meeting,
won't
be
the
approval
of
the
handbook.
Revisions.
it'll
just
be
the
first
reading
of
the
handbook
provisions,
and
then
we'll
take
the
feedback
from
that,
if
any,
and
we'll
incorporate
them
into
a
change,
and
then
we'll
have
a
second
reading.
depending
on
how
much
feedback
we
get..
The
second
reading
might
be
good
enough..
If
we
need
a
third
reading,,
we
can
do
that.
A
A
A
A
C
C
A
A
M
A
A
E
Board
&
commissions:
mr.
chair,.
Would
it
help
if
I
just
reminded
everyone
from
may
what
the
what
we're
looking
for
with
the
liaison?
that'd
be
great.?
It's
one
input
on
process
and
community
engagement.,
so
we're
all
buried
in
this
all
day.
Long,
and
your
questions
about
engagement
and
how
we're
talking
to
people
are
super
helpful
to
us.
E
Board
&
commissions:
second,
to
have
a
deeper
level
of
knowledge,,
not
expertise
on
a
project,
so
that
when
it
comes
before
the
board,
you
can
help
create
connections
there,
also.
and
then
finally,
just
supporting
the
board
conversations
on
the
topic
at
the
business
meetings
and
study
sessions..
So
it
does
not
require
expertise
in
any
one.
Topic.
hopefully.,
that's
what
our
team
is
bringing
to
the
table.
but
really,
you're,
a
community
expert.
A
B
C
E
board,
&
commissions:,
that's
a
that's
a
really
good
question,
when,.
As
we
talked
about
this,,
I
would
expect
it's
it's
an
hour
to
2,
a
quarter,
and
it
really
depends.
so
like
rec,
center's
future,
we're
on
hold
now,,
while
our
partners
and
financing
facilities
go
out
to
the
market
to
test
these
different
funding
models..
But
for
each
of
these
you
can
see.
We've
tried
to
scope
out
the
quarters.
I
would
anticipate.
it's
an
additional
hour
or
2
of
your
time.
A
quarter.
C
A
E
Board
&
commissions:
what
I
anticipate.
the
engagement
on
that
one
is
through
q.
2
of
2,024
is,,
as
we
start
looking
at
current
costing
and
and
where
we
are
with
cost
recovery,
with
where
we
think
we
might
need
to
be.
we're
going
to
be
identifying
next
steps
and
implementing
that.,
but
it,.
It's
not
a
heavy
lift,,
and
if
there
isn't
a
board
liaison
to
that
one,,
it's
probably
because
we're
almost
fully
complete
here.
it.
It's
not
awful.!
So.
A
A
A
B
A
A
A
E
A
S
S
Board
&
commissions:,
garlic,
knots,
and
just
really
enjoying
the
benefits
of
that
experience
on
the
farm
last
week,
and
my
son
is
doing
the
reservoir
camp
this
week
and
just
came
home,
exhausted
and
happy.
so
great
job
with
those
camps,
and
I've
heard
lots
of
great
things
from
other
people,
too..
So.
A
A
A
T
T
T
A
E
M
M
M
Board
&
commissions:
because
they
just
had
lap
swimming
all
the
time.,
and
I
see
a
lot
of
the
older
kids
are
like
they've
opened
up.,
there's
more
availability
for
the
to
use
that
pool
now,,
and
I
think
that
balance
is
in
better
place,,
because
I
I
see
a
lot
of
older
kids
playing
in
that
area.
and
like,
I've
counted
and
compared
how
many
people
are
swimming
labs?.
How
many
are
people
using
that
area.?
So
I
think.
M
Board
&
commissions:
opening
that
up
was
a
great
decision.
for
board.
&Amp;
commissions:
bring
those
kids.
board
&
commissions:.
It's
because
spruce
pool
is
open
that
you
know,.
We
there's
less
demand
on
the
lane
lines
at
scottie,,
which
means
that
we
can
open..
I
think
they've
got
4
to
6
open
of
the
20
a
day
for
just
open
swim
which
relieves
one.,
it's
great.,
so
it
gives
older
kids
something
to
do,,
but
it
relieves
pressure
on
the
rest
of
the
amenities.,
it's
amazing.
and
it's
possible
because
the
team
got
spruce
open..
M
A
E
Board
&
commissions:.
I
am
looking
to
my
left
because
scott
joined
our
team
at
the
end
of
november
last
year,
and
from
the
day
he
started,
we
said,
you
have
one
focus..
Our
our
teams
need
help
recruiting.,
they
need
help.
and
he's
led
a
a
staff
team..
We
have
a
a
last.
Last
year,
you
heard
us
talk
about
aqua
force,,
which
was
the
team
we
had
where
we
are
allocating
resources
it
this
year.
it's
called
summer
squad,
because
really,
we
know
we
need
staffing
across
the
department
in
camps.
E
Board
&,
commissions:
and
the
pools
and
in
park
maintenance,,
and
we
have
more
people
on
our
team
this
summer
than
we
have
ever
had.
part
of
that..
It's
because
it
takes
9
million
people
an
hour
to
operate
scott
carpenter,
pool
which
we
didn't
have
before.,
but
they!
they've
done
such
incredible
work,
and
I'm
so
grateful
for
scott's
leadership
and
that
work.
E
Board,
&,
commissions:
and
what's
even
cool.,
and
I
think
just
so.
illustrative
of
the
type
of
people
on
our
team
is
that
they
already
have
a
work
plan
for
the
fall
of
things
that
they,
you
know,
in
may
we
had
a
nice
lunch.
We
celebrated,
they
said..
Now
we're
going
to
put
our
heads
down
and
and
provide
great
experiences
all
summer,,
but
they
have
a
work
plan
for
the
fall
of
things
they
want
to
build
so
that
they
have
a
really
solid
foundation
for
next
year.
E
A
M
U
U
Board
&
commissions:.
What
I
did
find
out,
though,
is
that
the
reduced
lunch
and
free
lunch
letters
that
go
out
to
the
students
really
wasn't
a
big
factor
in
determining
financial
eligibility
for
financial
aid
with
us..
We
have
other
avenues
of
determining
whether
or
not
individuals
qualify.,
but
I
feel
really,
really
good
about
the
meeting
with
dr.
anderson
and
the
relationship
and
the
future
of
how
our
department
and
the
city
as
a
whole
can
work
with
the
school
districts..
Anything
you
want
to
expand
on
with
that.