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Sarah
silver:
okay,,
so
I'm
peter
and
I
came
up
with
an
agenda
which
is
not
particularly
unusual.
We're
going
to
start
by
naming
the
objective
of
our
meeting.
Then
I'm
going
to
ask
we're
going
to
ask
staff
in
this
case,,
charles,
just
to
tell
us
what's
already
on
the
council's
work
agenda
so
that
we
don't.
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Sarah
silver:
and
then,
a
wrap
up
with
timeline
and
next
steps.
So
pretty
simple,
so
I'll
start
just
I
the
obviously
the
objective
of
the
meeting
is
to
identify.
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David
ensign,
--,
he/him:,
but,
and
so,,
whether
we
kind
of
can
distill
out
what
we
think
is
the
most
important
part
of
that,.
But
there
were
five
areas
within
that
that
I
thought
were
interesting.
The
missing
middle,
which
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
in
our
retreat
ownership,
affordability,
trying
to.
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john
gerstle:
okay.,
sarah
silver:,
okay,
and
I'm
just
doing
this
by
how
people
appear
on
my
zoom
peter
your
next.
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Sarah
silver:,
okay,
that's
awesome
any
any
other
items.
That.
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lisa
smith:
yeah.
I
would
just
echo
a
lot
of
what
I
heard
from
other
planning
board
members.
Let
me
switch
from
staring
at
your
faces
to
the
whiteboard
um.
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lisa
smith:
notes
into
her.
I
put
environmental
climate
action
and
equity,,
which
I
do
also
see
it's
very
intertwined
as
other
board
members
have
already
stated.
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lisa
smith:
and
climate
action
other
things
that
I'll
highlight
and
I'm
not
sure
sarah.
If
this
I
don't
know,
I
just
think
it's
important
to
talk.
About.
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lisa
smith:,
it's
just
a
different
outcome
and
then
some
of
what
we're
seeing
up
around
the
city
so
yeah
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
this
council
in
any
future
council,
I
I'm
going
to
be
a
little
get
on
my
soapbox.
I
think
last
count.
I
lost
the
plot
on
climate,.
I
think
they
dropped
the
ball.
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jorge
boone:,
like
I.
pb,,
jorge
boone:,
know
I
mean,.
I
think
that
encapsulates
it.
My
my
only
concern
about
that
is
that,
again.
I
just
don't
know
how
much
airtime
that
side
of
the
equation
gets
in
boulder
and
it
feels
more
important,.
It
feels
to
me
like
it's
an
area
that
should
be
paid
attention
to
more.
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lisa
smith:
topics
that
I
see
as
policy
and
process
concerns
have
already
been
covered
by
others,
or
I
kind
of
prematurely
covered
them
under
work
plans,.
So
I
want
to
highlight
that
stuff
around
missing
middle
housing,
climate
sustainability
and
so
on,.
I
think
it's
all
in
there,,
but
in
practical
terms.
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lisa
smith:
yeah.
I
just
want
them
to
understand
how
we
got
to
where
we
got
and
then,
if
they're
like
nope,
still
don't
like
it
fine,,
but
I
don't
want
them
to
just
be
like.
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Pb,,
jorge
boone:
and
things
look
a
lot
different
on
the
surface
than
they
do
necessarily
when
you
understand
all
the
detail
and
background
behind
them,.
So
I
think
that
there's
some
some
some
beneficial
work
that
we
could
do
there
and
that
kind
of
bridges
between
policy
and
boarding
gate.
That's
it.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him:
development
project
notification
of
all
residents,.
This
is
something
that
we've
been
asking
for
for
years,.
So
I
think
this
is
a
place
where
we
can
reiterate
that
we're
still
waiting
for
that.
I
don't
think
it's
a
heavy
lift.
They
don't
quite
understand
why
we
don't
get
that.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him:-
that
is
something
that
could
be
improved,,
and
I
think
that
boulder
is
imprint
on
the
world
as
a
as
a
community
that
does,
you
know,
does,
is
to
reduce
carbon
impact
and
and
be
more
sustainable
is
huge,
for
us,
so,.
So
I
think
that
that's
a
policy
process
thing
that
could
be
mentioned.
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Sarah
silver:
land
marking,.
I
think
that
you
know,
one
of
the
candidates
in
the
selections
stated
that
land
marketing
was
racist
nutrients,
that
exactly
that
way,.
I
think
he's,
I
think,,
but
it
was
essentially.
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lisa
smith:,
like
pick
the
people,
you
think,
will
do
a
good
job.
I
don't
like
the
whole
two
party
ization
of
the
whatever.
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lisa
smith:,
but
you
know
I
think
we
can
all
maybe
just
constantly
be
thinking
about.
You
know
who,
who
do
we
know
from
our
work,
lives
our
personal
lives
or
otherwise,?
Who
we
think
would
be
wonderful
people
to
have
on
planning
board
on
another
board
and.
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jorge
boone:,
whether
or
not
that's
it.
That's
a
good
or
bad
thing
to
me.
It
seems
less
relevant
because
architecture
isn't
design,
isn't
necessarily
planning
planning
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
components,,
but
often
on
the
surface
people
when
they
think
planning
board.
They
think
an
architect.
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Sarah
silver:,
thank
you,
john
um.,.
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Sarah
silver:,
I
would
say,
I
agree,.
I
almost
everything
that
folks
have
said
in
this
area
resonates
with
me
and
I,.
I
also
want
to
reiterate
in
particular
what
george
said,,
I
think
this
year,.
Obviously
we've
had
our
bumps,,
but
I
think
this
year
that
we've
worked
really,
really
well
together
and
been.
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Sarah
silver:
able
to
get
two
very
good
outcomes,,
even
if
they
were
overturned
by
city
council
later,,
but
I'll
speak
specifically
to
the
hard
work
that
we
did
on
see
you
south.
I
was
to
very
long
meetings,,
not
very
much
fun,,
but
I've
certainly
heard
from
from
the
powers
that
be
that
are
hard
work.
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Sarah
silver:
and
obviously
we've
heard
some
additional
topics,
but
I've
taken
notes,.
I
actually
was
sort
of
court
reporting.
I
think
I've
got
everybody's.
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Sarah
silver:,
I
just
thought
that
we
might
go
now
to
folks
putting
icons
next
to
the
items
that
they'd
like
to
prioritize,
so
that
we
have
a
sense
of
where
people's,
where
people
are.
What
they'd
like
to.
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David
ensign
--
he/him:
envision
what
we
would
like
those
neighborhood
centers
to
look
like,,
so
it
to
me
it's
it's
just
an
idea.
So
that's
why
I
put
that
green
thing
there,
because
I
thought
it
could
cover
a
lot
of
these
other
things
that
we're
putting
check
marks
next
to
him.
Okay,
thanks
for
letting
me.
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jacob
lindsey:,
if
that's
a
request,
we're
listening
to
hear
that
I
think
there's
not
a
not
a
planner
in
the
country,
who
doesn't
love
the
request
to
do
area
planning.
That's
the
kind
of
work
that
we
love
to
do,,
but
our
ability
to
do
it.
It's
going
to
be
diminished
until
we
can
get
fully
staffed,
up.
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Sarah
silver:
good
planning
board
members
ever
go
out
into
the
community
and
talk
to
people,
or
is
that
not
as
a
way
of
as
a
way
of
sort
of
demystifying
or
or
democratizing.
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jacob
lindsey:,
it's
a
great
questions
here
to
some
degree,.
I
feel
a
little
I
defer
to
charles
or
my
staff,
who
have
been
with
the
city
for
a
longer
period
of
time,.
I
think
that
the
the
idea
on
its
face
is
is.
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Sarah
silver:
does
anyone
else,
want
to
make
a
comment
or
make
any
comments
on
this
topic?
So
I'm
wondering
if
I'm.
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lisa
smith:
sustainability
and
climate,
or
a
major
theme
that
I
heard
I
would
say,
equity
was
a
major
theme
that
I
heard.
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jorge
boone:
you
know,,
had
put
in
balancing
boulders
housing
supply
and
demand
and
equity.
I
think
if
the
environment
was
also
in
there,,
that
would
kind
of
encapsulate
a
lot
of
what
lisa
said
and
what
I,
what
I,
what
I
agree,
with,
and
then
the
only
other
thing
I'll
add
to
to
lisa's
is
perhaps.
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david
ensign,
--
he/him:
engagement.
I
think
we
talked
about
some
interesting
things.
I
just
want
to
reiterate.
Just
I
don't
know
if
there
was
some
misunderstanding
about
what
I
said,
but
I
actually
was
recommending
not
to
expand
our
discussion
and
politics.
Beyond.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him:-
I
just
I'm
so
glad
I
understand
that,
but
is
there
a
better,
I'm
not
sure
I'm
seeing
these
things
translate
themselves
into
a
work
plan,
item
right,,
so
I
so,
if
there's
a
better
way
to
get
it
into
a
way
that
it
can
be
proposed
as
a
work
plan
item
that
would
be
really
interesting.
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john
gerstle::
it's
it's
not
our
role
to
think
about
what
is
realistic
for
staff
to
accomplish
at
this
point,
because
we've
heard
that
there's
hiring
going
on,
and
that
in
a
couple
of
months
or
six
months,
there
may
be
a
different
picture,
with
what
is
possible
and
appropriate,.
So
I
think
we
should.
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lupita
d,
montoya:
sculpting
comments,,
I
think,
women,.
All
of
these
threads
is
something
that.
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jorge
boone:,
from
the
perspective
of
balance
and
making
sure
that
it's
heard,
I
would,.
I
would
like
to
have
like
a
two
person
type
of
response
to
that,,
so
that
people
understand
that
this
is
a
unified
view
and
that
it's
not
a
colored
view,
one
way
or
the
other,
I
think,
would
also
be
helpful.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him:
and
I
haven't
make
a
suggestion,.
So
if
we
were
to
have
a
draft.
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Sarah
silver:
but
no,,
but
but
it
can't
be
fooled
with
by
folks
who
are
not.
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David
ensign,
--
he/him:,
you
could
make
a
copy
of
the
workspace
for
the
for
the
pta
and
sarah
to
take
over
on
and
that
way.
If
they
wanted
to
move
things
around
it,
wouldn't
we
wouldn't
see
it,
because
it
would
be
their
work
from
then
on,,
but
I
don't
know.
If
that's,
I
don't
think
we
need.
I
just.