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jean
gatza,
moderator
(she/her):,
send
a
question
to
me.
If
you
have
a
meeting
question
about
the
zoom,
the
technical
aspects
are
the
procedures
for
the
meeting,
and
I
will
do
my
best
to
help
you
and
to
clarify
those
procedures.
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content
related
comments
or
questions
in
the
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jean
gatza,
moderator
(she/her):,
for
the
open
comment.
You'll
have
three
minutes
to
address
the
board.
I
don't
really
like
cutting
people
off,,
but
I
will
meet
you
out
of
fairness
to
everyone,.
If
you
go
much
beyond
the
three
minutes
and
we'll
see
you
mentioned
the
full
name,
I
will
ask
for
that,
and
I
think
that's
it.
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oh
yeah,
20,
where
we
are
in
colorado,
okay,
so
the
board,
I
think,
has
the
ability
to
use
the
raise
hand
function.
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I
think
I'll-
need
people
to
use
that
tonight
for
me,
as
charity
call
on
you,,
because
the
videos
are
not
coming
through.
So
when
we
get
two
points
where
I'm
calling
on
board
members
to
speak,,
please
use
the
raise
hand
function.
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
us
on
to
item.
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sarah
silver:
yeah.
I
just
would
like
to
follow
up
on
this
question
and
I'm
just
curious
since
we
asked
the
question
and-
and
the
response
was
well-
we
just
don't
know
if
perhaps
between
last
week,
and
this
week,,
perhaps
there's
some
additional
information
about
the
timeline
for
any
of
those
transportation.
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edward
stafford:,
the
brt
and
some
first
and
final
mile
study
that
are
in
a
variety
of
different
places.
The
bike
way
and
the
brt
elements
are
all
in
part
of
the
design
phase,.
At
this
point,
they
goal
is
to
complete
that
design,.
Yet
this
year,
and
hopefully
start
moving
into
implementation
in
the.
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edward
stafford:
provide
most
the
first
year
of
funding
and
they
would
expect
it
if
successful,
they
would
be
able
to
do
that
in
the
next
year
or
two
as
that
funding
comes
through
and
as
that
first
year
of
success
is
demonstrated.
They
believe
they
were
able
to
find
the
ongoing
funding.
Partners.
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edward
stafford:,
they
there.
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again,,
their.,
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edward
stafford:,
analysis
of
very.
cob,,
edward
stafford:,
positive
to
how
that
system,
would.
cob,,
edward
stafford:
connect
to
119
and
to
the
regional
routes,.
If
there
are
more
specific
questions
on
the
shuttle
system,,
I
do
believe
there's
a
representative,
also
from
the
boulder
chamber.
President.
Terrified
to
canadians
are
that.
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edward
stafford:,
I
think
that
covers
the
variety
of
different
transportation
projects
that
were
there
were
questions
on,.
But
if
not,,
please,
let
me
know
and
I'm
happy
to
try
and
answer
any
other
questions.
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sarah
silver:,
and
maybe
this
is
a
question,
you
can
answer,.
Maybe
the
gentleman
from
the
chamber
needs
to
pop
up,
but
the
the
first
year,,
the
what
you
said
was
the
first
year
of
funding
would
be
assuming
that
they're
able
to
raise
the
funds
that
would
cover.
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edward
stafford:,
I
mean
they're
looking
at
funding
sources,,
including
business
support
local
government
support.
That
would
be
the
the
ongoing
funding.
That's
the
high
level
that
I
know,
certainly,,
I
know,
andrea
middle
of
the
boulder
chamber
is
on
you
might
want
to
ask
if
he
has
any
additional.
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Andrea
meneghel:,
the
service
area
was
modeled
and
projected
in
the
us
or
in
sorry,
the
state
highway,
119,
first
and
final
mile
study
and
to
the
south,.
Let
me
just
pull
up
a
map.
I'm
sorry
sarah.
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Andrea
meneghel:
diameter
well,
no
actually
like
a
gun,
barrel
circulator,,
and
so
it
will
be
operated
on
on
demand,
technology
and
also
part
of
that
is.
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meneghel:,
you
know
operating.
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Andrea
meneghel:
here
I
provided
a
description
to
staff
at
some
point,
through
the
applicant.
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sure,
just
briefly
on
the.
applicant:
parking
just
to
correct
that
misnomer,
the
the
commercial
all
the
commercial
spaces
are
part.
According
to
the
city
of
boulder
codes,
library
does
have
have
dedicated
parking
to
it,,
and
that
is
conforming
with
the
city
of
boulder
parking
regulations
for
commercial
space..
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david
farnan
[he/him]:,
if
there
is
any
retail,
jason
and
I,
my
understanding
is
that
they
have
intention
for
a
for
a
cafe
or
something
like
that
in
the
area.
I
I
know
for
a
fact,
and
with
good
data
that
we
can
drive
traffic
to
those
establishments,
so
yeah,
I'm
I'll
make
the
best
case,.
I
can
for.
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david
farnan
[he/him]:,
you
know,,
we
do.
cob,
david
farnan
[he/him]:,
we
do.
cob,
david
farnan
[he/him]:.
We
do
look
at
the
viability
and
the
successful
library
and
would
be
willing,.
I
suppose
I
don't
want
to
tip
my
hand
here,,
but
you
know,
we
would
be.
We
have.
We
have
budgeted
in
future
scenarios
for
paying
a
reduced
level
of
rent,
not
not
not
ever
paying
market
rate.
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Hella
pannewig
assistant
city
attorney:
for
the
start
of
a
proof
project,,
which
was
the
case
here.
It
didn't
happen
with
the
two
approval
and
that
actually
expired
because
of
that,,
but
it
did
for
the
fda
approval.
It
wouldn't
work
that
way
anymore
today,,
but
because
of
when
they
were
approved,.
That
is
how
how
the
last
place.
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regional
center.,
hella
pannewig
assistant
city
attorney:,
as
those
and.
hella
pannewig
assistant
city
attorney:.
We
have
policies,
very
close
to
each
other
and
the
comp
plan
addressing
that.
As
a
result
of
that
effort
and
the
objective
was
with
policy
to
to
run
for
light
industrial
to
allow
more
housing
and
retail,
where
appropriate,,
while
maintaining
the
non
residential
use.
Potential.
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yeah.
pb,
sarah
silver:,
so
it's
I
have
some
concerns,,
which
I
hope
will
be
able
to
address
three,
perhaps
some
conditions,
but
I'm
going
to
essentially
my
concerns
about
the
boulder
valley
comp
plan,
a
mirror
echo.
What
lisa
smith
said
last
week
about
some
of
the
35
written
it
down.
Here.
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lupita
montoya:
and
yeah
the
other,.
The
other
issue
was
the
whole
idea.
Someone
in
I
think
it
was
john
mentioned
about
on
a
project
like
this.
In
my
appear
as
we
are
losing
some
of
the
light
industrial
but,
in
fact,,
there
was
no
light
industrial
built
it
there
yet,,
so
it
was
kind
of
a
sign,,
but
it
was
clear.
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Hella
pannewig
assistant
city
attorney:,
it's
planned
for
overflow
hartford
for
parking
if
it
was
fully
built
out,.
So
the
area
is
not
actually
intended
to
countess
open
space,.
The
pod
says
it
cannot
be
counted
as
open
space,,
because
the
area
is
also
reserved
for
different
parking,
which
I
think
would
only.
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john
gerstle:
have
at
least.
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sarah
silver:,
something
like
50%
drop
off.
They
they're
they're
eating
pretty
quickly
by
their
natural
predators,,
and
that
just
made
me
and
then
I
think
she
also
mentioned
that
boulder
gets
a
lot
of
calls
from
other
counties,
who
are
also
trying
to
move
their
prey.
Dog
colonies.
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Pb,
sarah
silver:,
I
don't
think
the
ordinance
achieves
its
goals
or
enables
us
to
actually
feel
good
that
a
project
achieved
the
goals
of
the
ordinance.
So
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
about
it
in
this
case,,
but
I
think
it's
worth
pointing
out
that
it's
a
bit
of
a
hollow
hollow
law
in
terms
of
its
outcomes.
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16082389231:,
but
I
think
what
we
could
do
at
this
point,
since
we've
talked
about
the
two
criteria.
If
somebody
else
wants
to
have
anything,
they
would
like
to
discuss.
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16082389231:
there's
two
there's
two
ways
we
can
do.
It,
one
is
somebody.
If
somebody
wanted
to
make
a
motion,
we
could
do
it
through
the
amendment
process,.
But
if
you,
if
you
would
like
to
dress
that,
I'm
totally
open
to
I'm
examining
possible
conditions,
additional
conditions
before
the
motion
is
made.
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16082389231:
thank
you,,
so
the
two.
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sarah
silver:,
I'm
sorry
to
keep
looking
over
to
my
my
left,,
but
I
have
all
my
notes
on
a
different
laptop.
So
just
I'm
not
trying
to
be
rude
just
trying
to
it's
my
notes,
okay,.
So
the
two
criteria
that
I
that
I
think
are
not
as
well
met
as
they
could
be,
are
the
two
they're,
both
circulation
criteria.
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sarah
silver:
compels
either
the
developer,
or
whoever
is
the
owner
of
the
site
at
the
at
the
time
of
final
occupancy
certificate
that
they
guaranteed
payment
of
$200,000
and
I,.
So
I
had,
I
came
up
tried
to
come
up
with
some
language.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
going
to
be
the
right
language,
so
hello.
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hella
pannewig
assistant,
city
attorney:,
so
forth,.
We
also
require
it.,
hella
pannewig
assistant
city
attorney:
for
eco
passes
that
are
part
of
the
approval
and
it's
either
a
letter
of
credit
that
issue
to
the
city
that
the
city
can
draw
on,
or
it's
the
funds
itself
being
deposited
with
the
city.
It's
one
of
those
things.
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Hella
pannewig
assistant
city
attorney:,
so
what
to
do
with
the
money
at
that
point
in
time,?
So
we
actually
worked
with
the
applicant
team
and
ask
them
to
propose
a
time
period
that
they're
willing
to
commit
that
money
for
and
that's
where
the
18
months
after
issuance
of
the
last
certificate
of
occupancy
came
from..
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peter
vitale:,
okay.
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sarah
silver:,
so
the
I
think
the
thing
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
happens
is
that
that
$200,000,
which
can
support
the
first
year
of
the
shuttle,
which
is
this
key
component
of
the
all
of
these
transportation,
needs
for
a
development
that
is
actually
not
near
public
transit
at
this
point.
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sarah
silver:,
I
don't
know
24
months.,
pb,,
jorge
boone:,
what
what,
just
to
clarify
what
edwards
that,
though,
I'm
not
following
the
18
month
timeframe,,
because
it
sounds
like
it's
it's
true.
The
shuttle
is
able
to
start
even
prior
to
that
18
month.
Timeframe,,
it
sounds
like.
Is
that
correct
edward?
Can
you
give
us
sort
of
when.
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to
hold
hold
the
developer
to
that
promise,
and
so
I
think
sarah,
what
you're
saying
is
if
18
months
went
by
and
the
van
service
wasn't
ready
to
be
launched,
for
any
reason.
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lupita
montoya:
to
determine
whether
the
we
are,
in
fact,
providing
good
news
company
services
for,
for
you,
know
our
friends
and
gone
barrow,
which
often
are
we've
said
number
of
times.
I've
forgotten
some
ways,,
but
I
think
this
is
one
on
those
places
we
can
provide
something,
and
if
that
is
impossible.,.
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16082389231:,
did
you
want
to
add
anything
below
dollar
applicant
team.
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john
gerstle:
later
on,
to
keep
out
the
public,
and
so
I'd
like
that
to
be
a
condition
that
no
fences
be
erected
to
keep
out
the
public
from
those
areas
which
the
applicant
has
committed
to
make
available
to
the
public,
and
then
the
second
is,.
I
would
just
like
to
get
the
reaction
of
my
colleagues.
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john
gerstle:
and
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john
gerstle:,
for
which
the
pod
indicated,
there
would
be
ball
fields
and
parking
built,.
But
right
now
we
are
very
unclear
about
the
significance
or
meaning
of
those
obligations,,
and
so
my
suggested
condition
would
be
that
that.
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okay,
and,
let's
I
think
ella
has
her
hand
up.
So
if
we
could
hear
from
our
attorney.
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lupita
montoya:
to.,
you
know,
like.,
pb,,
lupita
montoya:,
something
like
that.
The
library,
you
know
prevent
some
people
from
having
to
go
into
downtown
to
use
library
sources
and
then
for
maybe
has
a
different,
an
impact
on
potentially
transportation.
I
don't
know
I'm
just
trying
to
come
up
with
some
ideas.
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16082389231:
I
went
into
the
tedium.
hella
pannewig
assistant
city
attorney:
plan
and
they
were
actually
business
equal
passes
and
neighborhood
equal
passes,,
so
I
included
both
of
them
here,.
I
think
you
were
only
talking
about
residence,
so
that's
maybe
something
for
the
poor
to
talk
about
and
whether
that
is
your
intent
or
not..
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bit
a
euro
sign
in
front
of
it,
so
I'm
cindy,
if
you
could
after
see,
create
a
new
paragraph,
all
the
way
out.
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period
yeah,
so
so
cindy
just
the
fourth
word
should
be
not.
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jorge
boone:,
as
it
relates
to
to
also
to
john's
concerns
about
the
additional
land
and
other
things
happening
in
these
areas.
I
don't
know
whether
it
belongs
here
or
a
separate
thing,,
but
I
just
wanted
to
raise
that
for
people
that
might
have
more
experienced
than
I
have
brown
writing
these
things.
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16082389231:
really
impactful
residential
development,.
So
thank
you
any
last
words
before
we
move
on.
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applicant:
concept,
planet
and.
applicant:,
site
review,,
and
that
was
in
large
part
due
to
your
feedback
and
thoughts
and
guidance.
Also,
thank
you
to
all
of
the
citizens,.
You
contributed
to
that
conversation
as
well,.
So
again,
thanks
for
the
hard
work
tonight,
and
we
appreciate
the
feedback
and
obviously
the
approval.