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Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):
for
the
most
part,
is
very
rarely
an
issue..
I
think
we
only
run
into
capacity
issues
when
we
kind
of
get
out
into
areas
of
the
city
that
are
less
served
with
better
infrastructure.
areas
that
you
know,
previously
been
served
by
well
and
septic..
So
in
this
particular
case,
in
the
urban
core,
our
engineering
team
didn't
see
any
issues
with
capacity.
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Chandler
van
schaack
cob:,
the
subject
property
is
designated
as
low
density
residential
on
the
land.
use.
Map
of
the
motor
valley
account
plan..
The
description
from
the
bbcp
is
shown
here.,
which
lr.
is
the
most
prevalent
land
use.
delegation
in
the
city,,
covering
primarily
single
family,
home
neighborhoods,,
including
historic,
neighborhoods
and
post
world
war,
ii.
neighborhoods.
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Chandler
van
schaack
cob:,
the
existing
density,
use,
and
configuration
of
the
pd.
are
consistent
with
the
intent
of
the
low
density.
residential
land
use,
designation
and
the
comp.
plan,,
as
well
as
the
underlying
rl.
2
zoning
standards.,
and
will
remain
as
such,
following
the
proposed
consolidation..
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H
Thomas
bender:
just
provide
some
background
here
in
19..
I
thought
it
was
73,,
but
I
guess
it's
72..
The
planned
urine
was
created
to
jason
to
the
boulder
community
garden
on
hawthorne
avenue..
The
pub
consist
of
6
homes
built
from
73
to
78..
The
plan
incorporates
private
lots
and
common
areas,,
including
a
berm
carport
gazebo,
and
a
topic
of
today's
meeting
on
there.
A
narrow
access
to
small
common
area,,
a
triangular
platform.
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H
Thomas
bender:
they're
at
link
1550
and
1590..
They
collaborated
with
them,
together
much
of
the
information
of
the
historical
information
provided
in
the
proposal..
The
property
is
unique
and
boulder,
and
provides
an
exceptional
location
adjacent
to
the
community,
garden,
farmer,,
stitch,
and
city
bike
path,.
The
common
and
shared
assets
of
the
orchard
are
plentiful,
and
care
and
maintenance
of
additional
assets
is
not
desirable..
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H
Thomas
bender:
facilitation
of
slow
and
quiet
adverse
concessions.
consensus
among
neighbors
is
not
a
reason
to
really
do
anything.
The..
There
was
a
concern
that
the
memo
was
insufficient,
and
that
there
were
proceed..
There
were
barriers
to
the
community
space.
I
put
perceived,
because
there
hasn't
been
any
barriers
to
access
and
just
wanted
to
share
that
tonight.
and
then
adversely
possessing
a
community
asset.
H
Thomas
bender:,
so
in
terms
of
the
first
case,
privatization
of
public
and
community
space,
the
prime
triangular
play.,
I
was
never
used
as
community
property
for
a
park
or
otherwise.
in
fact,.
The
plaid
is
dangerously
close
to
the
farmers
ditch,
and
requires
a
fence
for
safety
purposes..
The
triangular
plan
has
been
accessible
with
no
obstruction.
since
1,973,,
maybe
70,,
probably
72.
when
it
was
created,.
There
has
been
no
attempt
to
prevent
or
obscure
access
to
the
property.
H
Thomas
bender:,
the
triangular
plan,
is
not
viewable
by
any
of
the
other
homes
in
the
h.
a.
as
it
resides
in
what
any
reasonable
person
would
assume
is
the
backyard
of
1,576..
It
is
not
a
natural
or
obvious
extension
of
the
existing
h.
a
property..
The
triangular
plat
has
been
managed
and
maintained
at
the
expense
of
the
1,576
property
owner.
since
1,978,
when
the
home
was
built.
H
Thomas
bender:
to
the
second
point,
facilitation
of
slow
and
quiet
at
first
concessions,.
While
we
can
appreciate
the
recognition
of
future
voices
that
they
want
to
use
as
property
as
a
shared
asset
of
the
h,
away.,
there's
never
been
any
adverse
concession..
The
plat
was
just
not
deemed
suitable
as
an
h.
oa.
community
park..
What
appeared
initially
as
a
thoughtful
idea.
to
have
a
park,
never
came
to
fruition.
H
Thomas
bender:,
perhaps
the
location,
logical,
backward
of
1,576
and
obstructed
view
and
the
size
of
the
shape
played
a
part..
We
have
made
no
attempt
to
quietly
acquire
the
property
through
any
kind
of
eminent
domain
or
obstruction
of
access..
I've
worked
diligently
with
the
hoa
members,,
my
friends,,
my
neighbors,,
the
city
of
boulder
and
staff
to
work
through
this
process.
The
goal
is
always
been
to
clean
up
the
property
boundaries,
to
reflect
actual
use,
and
desired
outcome
by
both
the
pod
and
the
1,576
homeowner.
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Thomas
bender:
consensus
amongst
neighbors.
as
part
of
this
process,
we
actively
engage
the
feedback
of
our
neighbors
in
the
orchard
pod
to
make
a
decision
that
applies
to
and
affects
our
community..
We
agree,
consensus
smoke.
Neighbors
does
not
make
something
right
more
or
correct..
In
this
case,
it
was
merely
to
demonstrate
and
make
transparent
that
consideration
on
behalf
of
the
current
h.
a.
homeowners
was
accounted
for,
and
the
collective
decision
was
made
to
move
forward
with
the
process
for
the
equal
benefit
of
our
community.
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H
Thomas
bender:
adversely
possessing
community
space.,
I
had
to
look
up
adversely..
It
says
in
a
way
that
prevents
success
or
development
harmfully
or
unfavorably..
This
is
similar
to
the
point
number
2.,
facilitation
of
slow
and
quiet
adverse
concessions..
We
don't
feel
that
adversity
applies.
in
this
case,
we're
neither
preventing
success
or
development
in
a
harmful
or
unfavorable
way.
we're
working
within
the
process,
and
our
h.
a.
to
complete.
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That
was
kind
of
the
6
point,
thomas
bender:,
so
some
support
from
each
of
the
individual
neighbors,
diana
mcnight,,
john
minnie,
bruce,
and
doll..
I
had
a
video
for
diana,,
but
I
had
a
technical
failure.
I'll.
Just
summarize
here..
My
name
is
diana
mcknight,
and
I
bought
the
property
at
1,550,
hawthorne
avenue
and
north
boulder
in
february
of
75..
When
we
moved
here,
there
was
an
agreement
with
bob
white,,
the
head
of
kinetics
construction,,
that
the
property
behind
1,576
hawthorne
would
be
a
part
for
the
kids
in
the
orchard.
Houses.
H
Thomas
bender:
well,,
that
was
untenable,
and
we
weren't
going
to
have
our
kids
go
back
behind
somebody's
house..
Nobody
could
watch
them
or
anything
like
that.
It
was
just
a
pain
in
the
next,,
so
we
never
use
that
property,
and
all
of
these
years.
Nobody
else
and
the
other
houses
have
gone
back
there
and
used
it
in
response
to
a
question
about
access..
If
there's
ever
been
any
fences
or
obstruction
to
access
the
property,,
ms.
mcnight
responded.,
the
access
has
always
been
clear..
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H
Thomas
bender:,
from
joan
mini
as
the
original
homeowner
of
1590,
hawthorne,
and
I
fully
support
the
annexation
of
the
triangular
plant
located
in
the
backyard
of
1,576
home..
The
triangular
plan
has
never
been
used
by
the
community,,
nor
was
it
well
planned
as
a
common
area,,
especially
as
a
play.
Area.
additionally,.
The
h.
of
a.,
does
not
want
to
maintain
it
nor
accept
liability
for
it.
Sincerely.
joan
mini.
H
Thomas
bender:
and
bruce
and
doll,
my
neighbor
to
the
the
north
at
1,570.,
since
our
arrival
into
the
orchard,
h.
a.
and
2,006
attractive,
land
in
question
has
always
been
discussed.
The
previous
honors.
dean
and
robin
pasha
also
intended
to
annex
of
land,
but
found
the
process,
daunting
in
terms
of
time,,
effort,
and
money..
I
remember
annual
h.
oa.
meetings
were
in.
The
land.
item
was
always
a
bullet
of
discussion,,
but
never
resolved.
H
Thomas
bender:,
I
and
my
orchard,
they
to
a
numbers,,
fully
support
this
action.
As
a
group,
we
never
have
used
it.,
don't
have
any
attention
of
using
in
the
future,,
especially
for
its
original
purpose.
in
addition,.
The
hoa
does
not
want
to
maintain
it,
nor
accept
liability
for
it.
time
regards
bruce
and
all,
and
paul,
and
again,
and
owners
of
the
1,570
property.
H
Thomas
bender:,
so
my
ask
is
we
feel
we
presented
a
reasonable
and
valid
proposal
for
the
city
of
boulder,
provided
the
required
information.
I've
been
working
on
this
since
2,019..
I
address,,
I
believe
the
5
areas
of
concern
certainly
open
to
questions.
and
we,,
like
the
city
of
boulder's
permission
to
proceed
forward
to
combine
the
existing
5,
1576,
platform
and
the
h
oa
triangle
into
a
single
platform.
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Mark
mcintyre,
pb:
my
first
cler.
thank
you,
sarah.
and
thank
you
to
the
applicant
and
to
chandler
for
very
complete
presentations,
and
obviously
a
lot
of
effort
went
into
this.
so
and
I'll
I'll
address
all
sorts
of
things
and
comments
later..
But
I
do
have
2
clarifying
questions.
for
chandler
when
the
city.
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Mark
mcintyre,
pb:,
I
I
knew
the
former
owners.,
you
know
their
friends
of
mine,
etc.
but
anyway,
I
went.
I
went.
I
came
into
the
property
via
the
from
the
north
to
the
community
circle
area
there,
and
then
walk
to
the
west
side
of
your
property,
and
as
far
as
I
can
tell,,
I
I
I
I
I'm
not..
This
is
not
a
debate.
Thing.
I
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H
Thomas
bender:,
and
so
it's
open
between
the
house,,
like
I
think,,
dean,
right
before
he
sold
it
like
built
the
deck
up
on
that
side..
I
think
he
had
a
hot
tub
down
lower..
So
when
we
bought
it,
you
know,,
the
deck
was
essentially
there,
and
there's
there's
never
been
a
fence,
since
I've
been
there,
and,
according
to
diana
and
and
joanie.
since
72
between
that
house
and
that
area
obstructing
access.
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Chandler
van
schaack
cob:,
so
yeah,
so
they're
in
a
pd,,
so
that's
right,.
It's
basically
kind
of
like
a
an
overlay
zoning
regulations
almost
that
apply
to
to
every
home
in
there..
So
if
they're
under
10%
expansion,,
it's
a
minor
modification
which
is
an
administrative
review,
process,
meaning,,
you
guys
don't
get
to
see
it.,
it's
just
a
staff
level.
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Sarah
silver,
pb:
question,,
I'm
gonna,
thomas
bender:
yeah.,
I
just..
I
was
just
going
to
respond
to
to
kurt..
You
can
squeeze
between
the
bushes
and
a
fence,
that's
there
and
get
to
the
fifteenth.,
but
that's
actually
a
separate
ho
a
in
there,,
and
so
they
don't
ever
give
us
access
to
to
do
to
do
anything
there..
So
it's
a
it's
a
separate,
deal,
and
yeah,.
You
can
walk
there,,
but
the
access
was.
It
was
never
set
up
to
be
like
an
access
to
fifteenth,
as
near
as
I
can
tell.
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Kurt
nordback,
pb:
yeah,
I'll
start
it
off.
really,.
I
had
2
twofold
concerns
about
this.
One
was
losing
that
potential
pedestrian
connection
there
between
that
extension,.
The
fifteenth
that
I
was
asking
about,
and
the
parking
area,,
which
I
think
if
we
could
preserve
that.
That
would
be
consistent
with
the
access,
transportation,
and
mobility.
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Kurt
nordback,
pb:,
the
other
one,
was
just
allow
a
about
allowing
a
potentially
significant
increase
in
the
allowable
size
of
property
of
the
to
house
that
can
be
built,
there.
basically,,
it's
a
what
40%
or
something
increase
in
the
amount
of
floor
area
and
based
on
the
f.
a
r.
limits
that
we
allow
for
a
significantly
larger.
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Chandler
van
schaack
cob:,
I'm
not
sure
what
hell
I
would
say
about
adding
a
a
condition:
that's
more
restrictive
than
that..
I'm
not
sure
if
we
could
do
that
or
not.,
because
right
now
any
of
their
neighbors
could
come
in
right,
and
if
they
wanted
to
do
an
addition,
they
would
automatically
be
in
some
sort
of
site
review
process..
So
if
it
was
under
10
they'd
be
in
a
minor
modification.
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Chandler
van
schaack
cob:,
so
they're,
not
so
like,.
There's
several
lots
in
here
that
don't
meet
the
minimum
lot
size
requirements
for
rl,,
2,
right?,
so
like
rl,
2
requires
6,000
square
feet
of
open
space
per
dwelling
in
it.
and
the
way
that's
usually
provided
is
on
a
lot
that
is
6,000
square
feet
or
larger..
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Chandler
van
schaack,
cob:
and
so,,
because
everything
is
average
and
everything
is
so
tight
like
there's
so
many
small
lots,
and
there
there
don't
have
a
lot
of
room
for
expansion
to
still
meet
zoning
standards.,
really
any
expansion
that
would
happen
in
this?
pd..
We
would
likely
require
everyone
in
the
pu.
d.
to
provide
their
approval
of
of
the
proposal.
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Kurt
nordback,
pb:
no,.
I
guess
my
understanding
of
how
the
beauty
works
is
still
a
little
bit
vague,,
but
I
am
satisfied,
based
on
those
responses
that
they
it.
it
wouldn't
give
them
an
automatic
40%,
or
whatever
increase
in
allowable
flor..
And
so
that's
that's
my
main
concern..
So
I'm
I'm
happy
with
that.
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Mark
mcintyre,
pb:
and
then
mark
mcintyre,,
pb:
seth
goes
on
to
say,.
The
existing
open
space
on
the
site
is
located
to
the
south,
and
subject.
Property
is
easily
accessible
by
the
property
owner.
Incorporating
the
common..
The
common
owned
play
area
into
the
subject
site
will
not
access
the
existing
layout
of
usability.
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Mark
mcintyre,
pb:
yes,,
I'm
reluctantly,
saying,
yes,,
but
again,.
I
want
us
to
be
cognizant
of
what
this
represents.
as
we
go
forward
into
into
other
site
reviews
and
other
conditions,
on
properties
and
promises
made
by
by
people.
In
regard
to
this
general
topic
of
a
conversion
of
public
space
to
private.
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kurt
nordback,
pb:
well,.
I
just
wanted
to
say,
thank
you,
mark,
for
all
of
those
eloquent
words..
I
agree
with
one
of
what
you
said.
and
I
definitely
thank
staff
for
this
extensive
research
that
went
into
this..
I
know
it
was
a
little
bit
opaque,
and
thank
you
to
the
applicant
for
your
presentation.,
but
I
I
certainly
echo
mark's
concerns.,
but
I
will
be
supporting.
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Mark
mcintyre,
pb:
and
I
have
no
one..
I
have
no
knowledge.
may..
They
might
be
deeply
involved
with
growing
gardens..
I
just
want
to
say
that.
that
there's
a
winner
here,
and
I
said,
there's
a
financial
win.,
and
if
the
applicant
ever
wanted
to
acknowledge
that,,
then
I
think
growing
gardens
would
be
a
a
worthy
worthy
beneficiary.
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G
G
chandler
van
schaack
cob:.
So
in
terms
of
the
location,,
the
subject
property
is
located
in
gun
barrel,
just
east
of
60
third
street,
off
of
nautilus,
court,
north,
that
is,
surrounded
on
3
sides
by
industrial
general
zoning
that
is
developed
with
office
and
warehouse
buildings
primarily
built
in
the
and
nineties.
G
Chandler
van
schaack
cob:,
the
property
east
of
the
site,
is
on
our
h.
4,
and
contains
the
boulder
country
day
school
across
nautilus
drive
to
the
southeast
as
twin
lakes,,
which
is
a
boulder
county.
Open
space
parks
area
twin
lakes
is
a
42
acre,
open
space
property
containing
2
reservoirs
that
were
purchased
in
2,002.
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G
G
Chandler
van
schaack
cob:
with
the
3,000
square
foot
gift,
shop,,
a
5,275
square
foot,
restaurant
use
and
an
1,800
square
foot
outdoor
seating
area..
The
project
was
granted.
a
33%
parking
reduction
and
deferred
construction
of
52
parking
spaces
to
allow
for
220
spaces
to
be
provided
where
329
were
required.
G
Chandler
van
schaack
cob:
since
that
time,
all
of
the
improvements
included
in
the
original
phase.,
one
of
the
project.
have
been
completed.,
and
there
was
an
amendment
to
the
facing
plan,
and
2,013
to
allow
for
certain
elements
of
the
original
phase,
one
to
be
completed.
As
far
as
as
part
of
phase
2.
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G
G
G
G
G
Chandler
van
schaack
cob:,
as
follows,
a
light
industrial
uses,
are
concentrated
primarily
in
industrial
parks
located
within
the
gun
barrel
area
along
long
one,
diagonal
and
north
of
arapaho
between
33
and
63..
The
uses
consist
primarily
of
research
and
development,
like
manufacturing,
assembly,,
media
and
storage,
or
other
intensive
employment.
Uses,
residential
and
other
complementary
uses
will
be
encouraged.,
inappropriate,
locations.
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G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Chandler
van
schaack
cob:
requiring
that
the
applicant
submit
and
receive
approval
of
the
final
landscaping
plan,
which
provides
for
additional
landscaping
strategies
around
the
outdoor
seating
area
that
can
create
a
visual
buffer
from
the
wetland
and
potential
mitigation
of
noise,
as
determined
by
a
city
landscaping
staff..
This
would
be
at
time
of
building
permit.
G
Chandler
van
schaack
cob:
staff
finds
that
the
city's
existing
outdoor
lighting
regulations
are
sufficient
to
minimize
lighting,
impacts.
and
additionally,,
while
the
boulder
county
staff
did
not
express
any
concerns
over
the
proposed
hours
or
the
existing
hours
of
operation
which
allow
them
to
use
the
upper
patio
until
2
am.
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G
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Hella
pannewig
city,
attorney's,
office:
yeah.
thank
you.,
so
thank
you.
sarah..
I
noticed
that
the
suggested
motion
by
staff
does
not
include
the
the
approval
would
be
subject
to
the
recommended
conditions
of
approval
and
the
staff
mental..
So
my
recommendation
would
be
that
if
one
of
you
choose
to
use
the
suggested
motion
language
to
add
that
in.
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I
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Kurt
nordback,
pb:,
I
I'll
just
say
that
I've
set
out
on
this
temporary
value
of
many
times,
since
my
previous
work
was
right
there
and
it
can
get
quite
hot
because
it's
on
the
south
side.,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
the
additional
condition
about
the
landscaping
around
the
new
seeking
area,,
because
I
think
that
that
will
help
to
moderate
the
to
temperature
there
on
that
south
side..
So
I
appreciate
staff
providing.
thank
you.
M
Sarah
silver,
pb:
laura.
laura
kaplan,
pb:.
I
agree
with
my
colleagues..
I
think
this
is
a
win-win-win.
it'll,
be
better
for
the
wildlife,
better
for
the
patrons
of
the
patio
better
for
the
business..
So
I
think
this
is
an
example
of
the
process
working
well..
So
thank
you
to
staff
for
following
up
on
sarah's
concerns.
and
thank
you,
sarah,
for
bringing
this
forward..
I
think
this
is
well
done..
Thank
you,,
everybody.
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Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):
yeah,.
I
think
the
only
thing
we
wanted
to
raise
with
the
board
is
that
you
know,
typically,.
When
we
have
a
new
planning
board
member.,
it
usually
means
it's
around
time
for
a
retreat.,
so
just
wanted
to
get
a
feel
from
the
board
on
whether
or
not
you
were
interested
in
having
our
tree.
toward
the
end
of
the
summer.
E
Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):
devin
would
be
happy
to
pull
the
board
on
a
time
that
works.,
I
think,
typically,
what
we
do
is
get
a
little
retreat
subcommittee
together
to
do
some
agenda
planning,
and
then
we'll
check
back
in
with
the
rest
of
the
board
prior
to
the
meeting..
So
that
was
the
only
thing
we
wanted
to
raise
with
the
board
tonight.
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M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
think
those
were
the
main
things
that
they
asked
for
input.
On.,
there's
also
a
questionnaire
up
on
be
heard
boulder
until
august
second,.
So
I
would
encourage
folks
to
check
it.
Out.
look
at
the
4
scenarios.
you're,
more
than
welcome
to
register
your
opinion
as
an
individual
and
participate..
I
really
think
it's
important
that
the
city
here,
from
a
diverse
array
of
voices,,
the.
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
just
by
the
nature
of
things,,
the
airport
stakeholder
community,,
the
pilot
community,,
the
tenants
of
the
airport,
are
pretty
organized..
They
have
existing
mechanisms
to
talk
to
each
other,
and
they're
all
on
a
mailing
list
from
the
airport..
So
that's
like
100
2,150
people
that
are
showing
up
and
being
heard,,
which
is
really
good..
I
mean,
they're
an
important
stakeholder
voice.
Here.
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
but
there
are
also
other
voices
in
the
community..
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
individually
and
with
our
networks,
just
encourage
people
to
learn
about
this,,
learn
about
the
pros
and
cons
of
all
the
scenarios,
and
and
make
your
voice
hurt,
because
this
is
bigger
than
just
people
who
currently
use
the
airport,
as
we
all,
as
we
all
know..
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
did
also.,
so
that's
kind
of
my
brief
update
of
where
we
are,,
where
we're
headed,
is
that
after
this
period
of
public
input
closes
with
the
survey
closing,,
and
I
think
staff
are
also
doing
another
round
of
you
know
they
consult
with
the
san
lazaro,
and
this
the
village
residents
since
their
disadvantaged
community.,
that's
quite
near
the
airport.
and
I'm
not.,
I'm
not
sure.
If
there's
any
other
direct
outreach,
that
staff
is
doing..
If
there
is
an
I'm
failing
to
remember,
it.
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
but
they're
collecting
all
the
input.,
then
the
next
stage
is
they
will
be
developing,
trying
to
develop
one
preferred
scenario
to
discuss
with
city
council,
and
I
think
they
will
share
with
city
council
the
whole
range
of
scenarios
that
were
considered
the
input
that
was
received,
and
how
they
got
from
that
through
their
analysis,
process
of
the
public
input
and
other
factors,
logistics
of
working
with
the
faa
and
all
of
that
faa
requirements
to
get
to
a
preferred.
Scenario.
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
there
is
a
check
in
with
council
on
august
20
fourth..
I
don't
know
how
far
along
everything
will
be.,
but
that's
just
a
check.
In.,
that's
not
a
decision
point,,
although
council
may
provide
some
guidance
at
that
time.
The
real
decision
happens
after
the
new
council
is
elected
in
january
of
next
year.
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:.
We
want
to
go
forward
with
an
airport
scenario
and
go
into
an
airport
master
plan
and
give
some
guidance
on
that,
or
we're
going
to
put
the
master
planning
process
on
hold
and
continue
to
explore,
decommissioning
and
building
a
new
neighborhood..
I
think
that's
the
big
choice,
and
brad
or
charles
or
someone
can
correct
me
if
I'm
framing
that
wrong.,
but
I
think
city
council
will
have
that
opportunity.
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
so,
and
I
also
just
want
to
disclose
personally,
you
know,.
You
all
know
that
my
profession
is
I'm
a
public
policy
facilitator..
I
really
thoroughly
believe
in
community
education
and
diverse
voices
being
involved.,
so
I
have
made
myself
available
to
any
group
that
wants
to
talk
to
me
or
individual.,
so
I
have
met
with
aviation
interest.
I'll,
be
meeting
some
environmental
groups.
M
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
guidance
around
housing?.
What
could
this
look?
Like??
I'm
not
trying
to
say
that
I
have
the
answers.,
I'm
just
saying,
you
know,
for
example,.
If
there
were
a
neighborhood
here,
it
would
not
be
all
one
housing
type,.
It
would
not
be
all
luxury
housing,.
It
would
not
be
all
affordable
housing.!
That's
according
to
you,
know,
bbcp
policies
and
things
like
that..
So
I
can
help
answer
questions
like
that.
and
just,.
I'm
really
trying
to
invite
people
into
the
conversation..
I've
been
talking
to
journalists..
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:.
This
is
an
issue
that
merits
that
that
level
of
detail.,
so
I
have
been
talking
to
folks.
and
you
may
have
seen..
There
was
an
article
yesterday.
They
came
out
in
the
boulder
reporting
lab
in
which
I
am
quoted,,
so
I
just
want
there
to
be
no
surprises.
That
folks
know
that
I
am
having
these
conversations,
and
when
I
express
my
personal
opinions,
I
make
it
very
clear.
I
am
not
representing
planning
board.
M
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
can't
speak
for
the
city.,
I'm
not
a
city
employee.,
I'm
just
one
person.,
and
I
want
this
to
be
a
real,,
a
real
conversation,
and
everyone
to
know.
you
know,.
We
should
talk
about
what's
great
about
the
airport.,
we
should
talk
about
what
could
be
there
for
housing,
and
and
it
could
be
alternative
uses.
also,.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
housing,,
even
though
that
seems
to
be
the
the
push.
M
M
C
C
B
K
Kurt
nordback,
pb:
yeah,
thank
you..
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
with
staff..
I
had
asked
to
question
a
few
weeks
back
about
whether
there
might
be
any
changes
to
city
code
required
in
order
to
meet
the
requirements
of
prop
123
and
and
receive
that
money,,
and
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
and
see
if
you've
had
a
chance
to
make
any
progress
on
investigating
that.
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K
Kurt
nordback,
pb:
yeah,
yeah,
right?,
that's
great.
sorry.,
and
so
you
know,
they
were
still
presenting
the
the
the
multiple
options.
and
I
mentioned,.
I
think
I
I
talked
at
a
subsequent
glen
board
meeting
about
the
options
that
were
being
considered
in
some
of
the
turn,
offs,
and
so
on.,
so
that
that's
the
last
I
know.
but
oh,.
They
don't
always
ask
me,
for
my
permission,
to
go
ahead.
yeah.
well,.
I.