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Mark
mcintyre,,
pb:
and
so,,
and
I
and
I've
mentioned
this
before.
minutes-
are
all
on
a
spectrum
of
a
transcript
where
every
word
is
recorded,
and
some
sort
of
refundry
document
that
doesn't
really
convey
the
essence,,
and
I
find
that
our
minutes
have
drifted
to
the
perfunctory
and
not
conveying
the
essence
and
and
minutes
are
a
useful
tool.
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Pb,
sarah
silver:
you?
yes,,
you
can
delay
it.
there'll
need
to
be
a
motion
either
to
delay
it
or
to
approve
it
either,
way,
so
that
we
can
get
it
recorded.
On.
make
a
motion,
mark,
do
you?.
Would
you
be
interested
in
making
a
motion
to
delay?
sure,?
I'm
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion
before
we
do
that..
Let's
just
see,
if
there's
any
support
among
everyone
else
before
you
go
through
the
process
of
making
a
motion.,
would
there
be
a?
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
I
agree
with
mark
that
the
minutes
have
become
very
condensed..
I
do
go
back
to
the
video
anytime
I
can,
and
try
to
just
make
sure
that
at
least
my
comments
reflect
what
I
think
is
substantive..
I
try
not
to
go
on
and
on,,
but
if
there
are
different
points,
and
in
this
particular
set
of
minutes,
there
were
probably
5
or
6
different
points
that
I
felt
were.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
something
that
I
felt
was
important
to
convey
to
the
applicants,,
especially
since
this
was
a
concept
review,
and
they
didn't
make
it
into
the
notes..
And
so
I
understand
the
staffing
constraints,
and
that
it
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
do
a
good
set
of
minutes..
And
it's
not
fun..
It's
not
a
glamour
job..
I
I
do
think,
as
a
facilitator,
that
the
purpose
of
meeting
notes
or
meeting
minutes.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:-
and
you
know
I
totally
support
being
as
brief
as
possible,
while
still
keeping
things
substantive..
So
in
terms
of
continuing
these
notes,,
I'm
happy
with
the
changes
that
I
made.,
if
other
folks
feel
that
they
would
indeed
go
back
and
make
sure
that
these
minutes
reflect
their
substantive
input..
If
they
would
like
to
do
that.,
I'm
happy
to
support
a
continuance
for
me.
the
bigger
issue
is,
you
know,
moving
forward..
What
are
these
minutes?
Gonna
look
like?
and
what's
going
to
be
captured?.
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Pb,,
sarah
silver:,
we
are
going
to
ask
vivian
to
remind
the
public
of
the
rules
and
regulations
of
of
public
participation.
and
just
a
reminder.
This
is
your
opportunity.
As
a
member
of
the
public,
to
talk
about
any
issue,
you
would
like.
that
is
not
either.
item
5,
a
or
5
b
of
today's
public
hearing
items..
So
if
you
want
to
talk
about.
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Vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:,
my
role
is
to
help
facilitate
public
engagement.
Parts
of
these
meetings
and
the
rules
I'll
share
now,
quickly.
are
in
place
to
help
us
achieve
a
balance
between
transparency
with
community
members
and
security
that
minimizes
disruptions.
and
planning
board.,
we'll
start
with
open
comments
as
chair
mentioned,
and
there
are
2
public
hearing
items.
later
in
the
agenda.
H
Vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:.
We
really
want
our
participants
to
know
that
the
city
is
striving
into
a
vision,
co.
created
by
city
staff
and
community
for
productive,,
meaningful,
and
inclusive
civic
conversations.,
and
this
vision
is
really
designed
to
promote
free
conversation
and
dialogue,,
while
also
recognizing
that
we
want
to
make
sure.
everyone.
Who's
participating,
feels
safe
and
welcome,,
and
we
want
to
ensure
we
make
space
for
different
viewpoints
in
our
meetings.
Next
slide.
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Vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:
as
an
umbrella,
our
productive
atmospheres
vision..
If
you
want
to
find
out
more,,
you
can
go
to
our
website.,
but
I'll
focus
on
a
few
things
for
this
specific
meeting.
tonight..
We
have
rules
of
decorum
that
are
found
in
the
boulder
revised
code,
and
we
have
some
general
guidelines
that
are
advisory
in
nature
to
share
with
all
of
our
meeting
participants.
This
evening.
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Vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:,
as
I
mentioned,,
we
need
a
full
name
associated
with
each
person's
participation
in
the
meeting.
and
we
cannot
unmute
you
without
your
full
name..
So
if
your
full
name
is
not
currently
displayed,
and
you
plan
to
speak.,
please
change
it..
You
can
right
click
on
your
name,
or
send
it
to
me
in
the
q.
a.
and
I'm
happy
to
change
it
for
you.
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Vivian
castro-wooldridge,
cob:,
there's
no
pre
existing
list
to
speak.,
so
you
just
you'll
need
to
raise
your
virtual
hand,
and
on
your
screen,
you'll
see
a
couple
of
different
ways
to
do.
This,
the
very
bottom
of
your
screen.
you'll
see
a
horizontal
menu
with
3
clickable
items..
If
you
click
on
the
hand,,
icon,
it'll
raise
a
hand
next
to
your
name,
and
that's
how
we'll
note
to
to
call
on
you
next
slide,
and
if
you
have
an
expanded
menu.,
you
can
also
get
to
the
oh,
sorry..
Maybe.
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sarah
silver:
all
right,
vivian,,
please
go
ahead
and
let's
whoever
has
their
hands
up,,
we'll
start.
yeah..
So
we
I
see
one..
If
other
people
would
like
to
speak..
Please
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand
so
that
we
know
how
many
people
there
are.
and
each
person
will
have
3
min..
So
first
we
have
patrick
or
work,.
Please
go
ahead.
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Patrick
orourke:,
the
patrick
orourke:
landmarks
board
here.
it
within
60
days,
which
could
put
it
as
early
as
september.
and
currently
it's
on
the
october.
Fourth
agenda..
The
reason
for
reaching
out
to
you
is
twofold.
number
one
is,.
I
know
you
have
a
very
busy
agenda,,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
added
onto
that
agenda
sometime
in
september,
october,,
but
no
later
than
your
first
meeting
in
november.
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Patrick
orourke:,
if
the
planning
board
responds
within
the
the
45
days
of
when
the
hearing
is
so
just
letting
you
know
about
it
more
than
anything
else.
I
spoke
at
the
last
city,
council,
meeting
and
city
city
city
council,
asked
staff
if
there's
a
way
that
they
could
hear
it
before
they
moved
off.
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Ml
robles,
pb:
the
way
it
did
for
the
boulder
junction
site..
They
were
very
clear.,
there
was
view
corridors
to
be,
and
that
was
in
the
form
based
code..
There
was
nothing
spoken
to
about
the
alpine
bossum..
There
is
nothing
spoken
to
about
in
existing
environmental
factors..
There's
a
creek,
goose,
creek,
and
it's
watershed
are
underneath
that
site.
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Chandler
van
schaack
cob:
site
and
use
review
because
the
right,,
because
the
the
form
based
code
like
it,
it
would
just
be
it-
would
just
remain
as
a
demolished
site
until
some
later
time,.
When
someone
else
came
up
with
another
idea
for
it.,
but
really,,
even
then,.
If
they
came
in
for
site
review,,
they
would
still
have
to
meet
or
demonstrate
consistency
with
the
comp
plan
and
with
the
outline
balson
area
plan..
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a.
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Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):,
okay,
well,,
it
sounds
like
it's
been
considered.
and
and
that's
the
decision-
that's
been
made.,
so
that's
it
has..
I
don't..
I
don't
think
that
we're
quite
done,
manipulating
the
ped
to
challengers.
point,
there's
going
to
be
some
other
subsequent
moving
pieces
that
we're
going
to
have
to
address
as
this
progresses..
But
this
is
the
initial
step..
I
think
that
gets
us
into
the
realm
of
form
base
code,
review.
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Christin
myrick
shepherd,
cob:
yeah,,
hi,
kurt,.
This
is
kristen
shepard.,
I'm
the
flood
and
wetland
administrator,
and
my
camera
is
not
working.,
so
I
apologize.
yes,,
it
does
seem
odd,,
but
the
I
think
the
main
difference
here..
I
can
see
how
you
that
question
would
come
up..
The
main
difference
is
that
the
high
hazard
zone
is
map
based
on
a
100
year.
Flood
coming
down,
wonderland,
creek
and
wetlands
are
mapped,
based
on
soil.
That
is
consistently
wet,
over.
a
period
of
time.
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Pb,
sarah
silver:
potential
potentially
increasing
the
length
of
time
that
approval
of
land
use
is
valid..
I
was
informed
today
that
this
is
already
passed.
First.
Reading
of
city
council.-
so
we're
kind
of
backtracking,
a
little
bit.,
so
we
know
what's
going
on
since
this
is
about
land
use.,
and,
brad,.
I
think
you
take
it.
Away.
yeah.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
business
goes
out
of
business
for
a
year,,
that's
considered,,
the
uses
discontinued,
and
so,.
After
a
year
that
use
expires,.
There
is
an
option
or
the
use
review
expires.,
there's
an
option
to
extend
that
by
6
months,
with
a
conditional
use.
They
the
it
expires
after
one
year,
no
option
to
extend.
however,.
We
have
other
types
of
approvals
like
site,
review
and
form
based
code
review,,
which
have
longer
expiration
periods.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
the
proposed
ordinance,
makes
a
few
simple
changes.
so
for
the
use,
review,
and
conditional
use
approvals
rather
than
one
year,,
they
would
not
expire
for
3
years.
and
then
another
important
part
of
the
ordinance
is
that
the
city
manager
is
authorized
by
the
ordinance
to
extend
approvals
that
have
expired
during
the
covid-19
pandemic..
As
brad
mentioned,,
we
had
a
number
of
businesses.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
go
out
of
business
while
during
the
during
the
pandemic,
and
to
not
either
that
business
did
not
come
back
within
one
year
or
the
property
lost,
the
user
view
approval.
and
like,
in
brad's
example,.
Another
restaurant
wouldn't
be
able
to
take
over
that
user
view
because
it
had
been
more
than
a
year.
P
Lisa
houde,
cob:,
so
that
would
be
the
change
that
you'd
see
made
through
this
ordinance..
You
would
have
noted
in
your
memo.
I
noted,
several
comprehensive
plan
policies
that
this
helps:
support,
namely,
in
our
economy,
section.,
so
supporting
local
business
and
business
retention,
economic
resilience
responsive
to
changes
in
marketplace,
such
as
a
pandemic
as
well.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
the
next
steps
for
this
ordinance,.
As
sarah
mentioned
it
already
had
first
reading,
due
to
the
recess
and
the
the
kind
of
odd
schedule
in
summer..
This
is
just
kind
of
how
the
dates
worked.
Out.,
but
first
reading
was
that
city
council
last
week
and
passed,
and
then
they
will
see
second
reading
and
have
a
public
hearing.
on
july.
20.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
most
of
my
questions,
have
to
do
with
how
we're
defining
the
covid-19
pandemic.
and
so
what
period
of
time
are
we
defining?
is
the
covid-19
pandemic.
and
there's
a
clause
about
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
re-establishing
land
use
approvals
that
expired
during
that
time,
period.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:
yeah,,
that's
a
great
question.,
so
we
did.
set
a
specific
time
period.,
so
it
is
may..
It's
any
use
that
was
due
to
the
in
in
direct
effects
of
covid-19
pandemic
that
was
discontinued
on
or
after
may,
tenth,,
2,020,
and
december
30,,
first
2,024..
So
if
they
hit
the
expiration
period
at
any
point
during
that
for
almost
4
year
period.,
then
the
city
manager
would
be
authorized
to
extend
that
approval.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
the
thinking
is
per
cap.,
something
would
be
vacant
for
5
years.
and
you
know,
in
the
restaurant
example,.
Maybe
that
property
has
been
vacant
for
5
years,,
but
they
have
the
user
view
approval.
and
that
just
happened
to
that.
the
business
left
during
covid
and
so
that
use
review..
It's
the
fact
that
covid
extended
longer
than
one
year,,
and
so
there
wasn't
that
opportunity
for
businesses
to
come
back
in
because
there
weren't
new
businesses
really
opening.
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Brad
mueller,
cob:,
but
not
not
one,
that
would
involve
site
design,,
either.
right?.
So
if
it's
adding
a
building
or
adding
a
drive
through
things
like
that,,
the
subsequent
operator
would
have
to
assume
all
of
the
operational
characteristics
that
were
approved
in
the
original
user
view..
So
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
add
a
drive
through,.
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
extend
your
hours
of
operation..
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
add
more
seeding..
All
of
those
things
would
trigger
a
new
user
view.
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B
M
Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):
drive
through
use
when
it
was
a
liquor,
store,
had
expired,
and
we
do
have
a
provision
that
relates
directly
to
drive
through
uses..
There
was
never
an
existing
use
for
view
on
that.
Property,,
so
raising
kids
would
have
never
been
able
to
to
reassume
it,
and
the
fact
that
the
drive
through
use
was
vacated.
for
more
than
a
year..
We're
not
changing
that
section
of
the
code.
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B
B
Lisa
houde,
cob:
yeah,,
I
think,
going
back
to
grabs
initial
points..
This
is
really
intended
to
eliminate
some
additional
processes
that
businesses
have
to
go
through..
So
if
we
were
going
to
have
a
2
year
period
and
then
an
extension
period
that
would
likely
be
approved.,
that's
just
another
step
for
businesses
to
have
to
go
through.
and
because
we
already
use
3
years
for
our
other
approvals
like
site,
review
and
form
base
code.
Review.
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Lisa
houde,
cob:,
so
in
those
circumstances,
like,,
if
the
use
has
been
gone
for
10
years.,
it
isn't
necessarily
extending
their
approval,
or
it's
not
in
an
extension
of
like
the
3
year
approval
from
before
it..
Would
you
just
be
that
the
new
use
coming
in,
or
the
business
coming
back
would
be
able
to
restart
that
use.
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Pb,
sarah
silver:
okay,,
so
I
want
to
appreciate
laura
bringing
up
the
10
year,,
the
the
the
hypothetical..
You
went
out
of
business
during
covid,
and
10
years,
later,
you're,
somehow
magically
able
to
go
back
to
business
in
exactly
the
same
spot,
with
exactly
the
same
conditions
of
use,
running
the
exact
same
business.
A
A
A
A
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
and
the
hours
of
operation
which
allowed
outdoor
drinking
until
one
pm.
one
am.
in
the
morning..
It's
now
in
the
middle
of
a
more
residential
area
than
it
was
10
years.
Previously.
like,,
I
feel
like
we're
not.
we're
sort
of
not
taking
into
account
the
possibility
that
things
change.
A
A
A
A
A
H
H
A
A
F
E
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
thank
you.,
sarah
and
ml.
and
kurt..
I
think
we're
we're
starting
to
line
up
around
this,
that
we
think
that
an
expiration
date
is
appropriate,
and
I
think
sarah
spoke
well
to
this,,
but
I
think
the
entire
purpose
of
use,
review,
or
one
of
the
main
purposes,
is
to
make
sure
that
they
use
is
appropriate
for
the
context.
and,
as
sarah
pointed
out,,
the
context
can
change
in
the
future..
And
so
I
guess
I
would
ask
staff
if
this
were
going
to
have
an
expiration
date..
Would
you
have
a
recommended
expiration
date?
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
businesses
that
went
out
of
business
during
covid
should
be
allowed
to
be
revived
by
the
city
manager.
Like,,
should
that
be
a
period
of
3,
years?
5
years?
7
years,
like
how?
how??
What
is,?
What
is
your
sense
of
how
long
a
business
would
need
to
be
able
to
know
that
they
can
come
back
or
have
the
finances
to
come?
Back.
G
Lisa
houde,
cob:.
I
think
we'd
want
to
chat
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
decide
on
an
exact
number.,
but
I
think,
since
one
to
3
years,
is
what
we're
talking
about
just
for
general
expiration..
You
know,,
if
you
think
about
a
business
that
might
have
gone
out
of
business
at
the
very
end,
tail
end
of
the
pandemic
before
this
ordinance.,
that's
in
place.,
maybe
3
years
after
that,,
so
that
they
can
take
advantage
of
the
the.
P
A
A
A
A
P
Lisa
houde,
cob:
yeah,
charles,,
I
kind
of.,
I'm
looking
to
you,.
If
you
remember
exactly,,
because
it's
david
here
that
drafted
this
part.,
so
I
think
the
date
was
intended
to
be..
You
know
any
use
that
might
expire
within
the
next
year.,
taking
into
account
this
adoption
process
for
this
code
change,,
and
that's
where
I
think
the
december
thirty-first,
2024
came
from.
M
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
Mark
mcintyre,
pb:,
maybe
a.
and
I
I'm
looking
to
staff
for
guidance
on
this.
you've
heard
us
and
some
of
these
concerns,
and
I
understand
your
concerns,
and
saying,
gee,
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
city
attorney's
office..
Would
this
be
an
opportunity
rather
than
us,
trying
to
muddle
through
a
motion.
G
G
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
this
city,
manager,,
looking
back
and
reviving
land
uses,
is
something
different..
Is
that
my
understanding
that
correctly?
yeah,
you
are.
and
I
think
it's
confusing,,
because
it's
a
lot
of
the
same
language
about
expiring
and
things
like
that.,
but
that's
exactly
correct,,
and
I
think
I
think
there
is
an
opportunity
to
clarify
section,
4,
and
perhaps
even
just
define
what
we
mean
by
covid-19
pandemic?.
P
P
G
D
Laurel
witt,
cob:
yeah,
yeah.,
if
I
may
jump
in,,
if
that's
okay,,
that
I'm
sure.,
if
you
use
the
suggested
emotional
languages.
and
then
at
the
end
we
could
say,
and
and
then
something
similar
to
what
you
said.
request.
The
staff
add
this
language
in
there.
yeah,.
I
think
that
would
be
an
appropriate.
D
A
A
A
A
P
P
Lisa
houde,
cob:
okay.
well,-
I
was
just
gonna
say
that
I
think
that
improved
the
extension
to
3
years
improves
the
flexibility
for
that
property,,
whether
it's
the
business
coming
back
or
a
new
business
coming
in..
So
it
supports
a
lot
of
those
economic
related
policies
in
our
comp
plan..
It's
supporting
economic
resilience
and
providing
more
opportunities..
There
are
other
uses
that
could
go
in
that
don't
require
a
user
view.,
but
a
user
view
is
something
that
is
an
additional
process,.
An
additional
fee.
P
P
C
C
A
A
D
D
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
all
right.
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
it,,
and
then
we
can
give
feedback
planning
board
record..
This
is
not.,
I'm
not.,
I'm
not
making
the
motion.
I'm
just
reading.
It.
planning
board
recommends
that
city
council
adopt
ordinance.
8,
5,
8,,
one
amending
title,
I.
land
use
code,
brc.
1,981.
by
increasing
the
length
of
time
and
approval
of
land
use
is
valid
after
discontinuance
to
through
after
discontinuance.
A
A
D
A
D
Pb,
sarah
silver:,
that's
our
standard
language
for
for
passing
any
sort
of
ordinance..
It's
the
same
thing
that
goes
in
city
council,
packets,
that
related
details.
okay?.
So
maybe
maybe
that's
what's
throwing
me
off
is
the
is
the
punctuation..
We
should
end
related.
related
details
with
the
period.
A
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
have
no
concerns..
I
I
like
this,
and
I
think,
I'm
very
comfortable,,
relying
on
staff
to
figure
out
what
would
be
an
appropriate
period
of
time.
assuming,,
I'm
assuming
that
staff
agree
that
having
this
be
indefinite
is
maybe
not
necessary.,
and
so
you
know,
what's
an
appropriate
time
to
have
that
authority
related
to
covid-19.
G
G
G
laura
kaplan,
pb:
planning
board
recommends
that
city
council
adopt
ordinance
a.
5,
8,
one
amending
title,,
9,
land
use.
code,
brc.
1981,
by
increasing
the
length
of
time
and
approval
of
land
use,
is
valid
after
discontinuance
to
3
years,
and
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
reestablish
land,
use
approvals
that
may
have
expired
during
the
covid-19
pandemic.
G
Laura
kaplan,,
pb:
and
setting
forth
related
details.
planning
board
recommends
city
staff,
amend
section
4,
of
ordinance,
8,
5,
8,
one.,
to
provide
an
end,
date
to
the
city,
manager,
authority
to
authorize,,
approve,,
extend,
or
otherwise
allow
to
restart
or
continue
any
land,
use
approval
due
to
the
covid-19
pandemic.
A
A
A
pb,.
Sarah
silver:
planning
board
recommends
that
city
council
adopt
ordinance,
5
of
881
amending
title,
I.
land
use
code,
brc.
1,981.
by
increasing
the
length
of
time
and
approval
of
land
use
is
valid
after
discontinuance
to
3
years,
and
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
reestablish
land,
use
approvals
that
may
have
expired
during
the
covid-19
pandemic.
A
K
A
P
Lisa
houde,
cob:,
so
the
organs
applies
to
any
use.
That
requires
a
use.
Review.
we've
been
using
the
example
of
restaurants,
a
lot,,
but
it's
any
use
that
required
a
use.
review.,
but
I
think
it's
clear
enough
that
since
we're
referencing.
section
4,
that
this
only
applies
to
what
the
ordinance
is
focusing
on.
A
A
A
P
Lisa
houde,
cob:
well,.
That's
exactly
why
the
clarification
of
putting
an
end
date.
and
that's
that's
the
reason
to
have
that..
So
we
would
have
an
end
date.
and
also
for
those
kind
of
situations
that
there's
a
site.
Review.
they're,
subject
to
the
site:
review.
the
expiration
of
3,
years,
anyway.,
so
yeah.
G
G
G
G
G
G
A
B
A
A
H
E
G
A
G
G
G
D
D
D
D
D
D
P
Lisa
houde,
cob:,
whatever
it
is,
9
to
14
or
whatever,
and
then
there's
sections
that
are
just
text
like
there,
there'll,
be
often.
it'll,
be
like
we're
doing
this
ordinance
for
the
public,
health,
safety
and
welfare
things
like
that..
That's
not
a
mending
code
text.,
it's
just
a
part
of
the
ordinance,.
If
that
makes
sense..
So
that's
what
into
different
sections.
and
that's
how
all
ordinances
are
organized.
P
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
it's
a
little
confusing,
because
parts
of
it
are
code,
land,
use,,
code,
and
parts
are
just
ordinance
text,
right?
and
section
4,.
I
don't
think,
is
specific
to
any
section
of
the
land.
use
code
and
section
4
just
says
that
it's
any
land
use
approval..
So
I
think
that
was
a
really
a
catch
by
sarah.
and
when
I
said,
make
language
throughout
the
ordinance.
consistent.,
I
I
mostly
was
referring
to.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
the
the
very
first
paragraph,
that's
in
bold
at
the
top
of
the
ordinance
that
just
says
an
ordinance
amending
title.
I
land
use
code,,
and
in
that
section
it
says,
authorizing
the
city
manager
to
re-establish
land,
use
approvals,,
and
that
needs
to
be
specific
to
use,
review
and
conditional.
G
G
G
F
F
F
F
F
F
P
P
F
A
F
B
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
setting
forth
related
details..
Thank
you
for
changing
that
real
time
planning,
board.,
recommend
city
staff,,
amend.,
section
4,
of
ordinance
a.
5,
8,,
one
to
specify
an
end,
date
to
the
city,
manager,
authority
to
authorize,,
approve,,
extend,
or
otherwise
allow
to
restart
or
continue
any
use,
review
or
conditional
use
approval.
Due
to
the
covid-19.
pandemic.
A
B
B
B
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb::
this
is
one
of
the
pieces
of
regulation
that
can
impose
significant
barriers
with
very
little,
if
any,
benefit
to
the
city.,
and
so
I
want
to
compliment
staff
for
ferreting
out.
This
particular
change
that
needed
to
happen,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
bringing
it
to
us..
I
think
it's
very
supportive
of
the
business
community
and
the
bbcp
desire
to
make,
not,.
You
know,,
not.
G
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
kurt.
kurt
nordback,,
pb:
yeah,
I'll
just
say,,
totally
agree
with
what
laura
said.
you
know.
I
think
we
have
unfortunately,
a
fairly
well
reserved
reputation
for
not
being
particularly
business,,
friendly
and
molded,,
and
I
think
that
small
things
that
we
can
do
to
improve
that
our
and
feel
that
this
takes
a
step
in
that
direction..
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
planning
board
recommends
that
city
council
adopt
ordinance,
8,
5,
8,,
one
amending
title
I.
land
use
code,
brc.
1,981,
by
increasing
the
length
of
time
and
approval
of
land
use,
is
valid
after
discontinuance
to
3,
years,
and
also
and
authorizing
the
city
manager,
to
re-establish
use,
review
or
conditional
use
approvals
that
may
have
expired
during
the
covid-19
pandemic.
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
and
setting
forth
related
details.
planning,
board,,
recommend
city
staff,,
amend.,
section
4,
of
ordinance,
8,
5,,
8,
one,,
to
specify
an
end.
date
to
the
city,
manager,
authority
to
authorize,,
approved,,
extend,
or
otherwise
allow
to
restart
or
continue
any
use,
review
or
conditional
use
approval
due
to
covid-19.
pandemic,
and
make
language
throughout
the
ordinance
consistent
with
this
change.
A
A
G
G
G
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
did
you?
oh,.
Do
you
know
what
staff
might
mean
when
they
say
that
the
building
includes
vertical
expressions
of
circulation.?
The
best
I
could
figure
from
googling
is
maybe,
that
it
means
that
you
can
tell
on
the
outside,
where
the
staircases
and
the
elevators,
and
so
far.,
but
I
don't.,
I
don't
know.
G
A
A
A
D
D
Laurel
witt,
cob:,
great.
excellent!,
so
just
so
everybody
knows..
We
have
a
section
in
our
code
that
talks
about
remote
interest.,
and
this
is
kind
of
the
idea
that
it's
a
nominal
of
nominal
nature..
Since
this
isn't
the
main
part
of
this
particular
item.,
then
it
would
qualify
for
what's
called
remote,
interest,
which,.
If
anyone
wants
to
know
a
little
bit
more
about
that,,
it's
under
section
2,
dashboarding
in
the
code,,
which
is
how
it
came
to
our
conclusion..
But
there
is
a
section
that
talks
about
disclosure..
D
D
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
okay?
no.
okay.
pb,,
sarah
silver:,
then
let
us
get
started.
we're
gonna
start
with
a
15
min
staff
presentation,
after
which
we'll
take
questions.,
then
the
applicant
will
get
15
min
and
take
questions..
Then
we'll
go
to
public
hearing,
and
at
that
point
we'll
see
where
we
are
and
whether
we
want
to
take
another
break
or
just
go.
Through.
discussion.
M
Charles
ferro,
cob
(he/him):
great?,
charles
ferro,,
cob,
(he/him):,
well,
thanks,,
so
much.
chair.,
members
of
the
board,
charles
ferrell,
planning
and
development
services..
This
last
appear
before
the
planning
board
in
november
2021..
If
I'm
not
mistaken..
Since
that
time,
it's
made
stops
at
both
design
advisory
board
and
transportation,
advisory
board,,
as
directed
by
planning,
board
and
council.
Through
the
concept
plan
process.
M
R
A
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Shannon
moeller,
cob:
as
part
of
the
review
process.
the
site
was
posted,
and
public
notification,
provided,
per
code,
written,
comments
received
or
included
in
the
board's
packet
and
transmitted
to
the
board
via
email.
it
received
after
publication
of
the
packet..
The
public
comments
primarily
included
concerns
regarding
parking,
as
well
as
the
height
of
the
proposal.
R
R
G
B
R
G
G
G
Ml
robles,
pb:-
I
don't
know
if
you
have
other
folks
gone
to
this..
This
is
really
just
a
a
lovely
feature.,
I'm
kind
of
curious
to
go
there
when
the
when
the
creek
is
in
high
high
gear..
I
wish
I
had
gone
earlier
this
month.,
it's
a
pretty
remarkable
little
duel,,
and
not
that
many
people
know
about
it..
I
mean,
I
discovered
it
decades.
Ago.
E
F
F
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
I'm
in
florida
right
now
hanging
out
with
some
relatives,
and
my
dad
and
I
went
out
in
a
2,
person,
kayak
and
just
love,
seeing
all
the
fish
and
fisher
breeding
right.
Now,-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
is
the
same
in
boulder,
but
like
they
make
these
egg
sacks
that
are
like
transparent,
like
jelly,
like
as
you
can
see
on
the
bottom
of
the
the
bay
here.
G
A
G
R
R
R
A
A
G
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
R
Shannon
moeller,
cob:
the
boulder
creek
path,
mult,
to
use
the
boulder
creek
multi-use
path
runs
through
the
site,
and
the
multi-use
path
runs
north,
south
along
20
eighth
street,
that
will
remain.
the
site
is
served
by
public
transit..
Several
transit
stops
are
located
along
a
rappaho
avenue
and
folsom
street,,
including
service
on
the
jump
route
between.
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moeller,
cob:
the
proposed
parking
reduction
is
supported
by
the
applicant's
parking
study
and
tdm.,
which
includes
the
methods
and
improvements
noted
on
this
slide
and
the
properties
in
an
ideal
location
near
campus,
and
many
daily
amenities
and
transportation
opportunities
that
allow
residents
to
forego
power.
Use.
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mark
mcintyre,
pb:.
We
will.
we
mark
mcintyre,
pb:
plan
to
maintain..
The
creek
is
up,
but,
gee!.
We
might
have
to
close
certain
areas
after
certain
hours.
and
again,.
We
have
this
mixing
of
private
property
and
public
property
in
a
very
complex
situation.,
and
I
just
like
you
to
address
how
that's
been
addressed
with
the
applicant.
and
what
that
understanding,
is.
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Mark
mcintyre,
pb:,
I
I
just
want
it
to
be
clear
that
this
is
a
20
four-seven,,
that
the
path
itself
is
20,
four-seven,,
that
that
the
property
owners
can't
decide..
We
we
really
don't
like
this.,
I
mean,.
I.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
our
eas
myths
there
have
been
hit
historical
instances
where
easements
have
been
agreed,
to,
and
subsequently,
you
know,
disputes
rise
up.
and
it's
like,
well,.
I
didn't
agree
to
that..
I
I'm.
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Mark
mcintyre,
pb:
okay.,
I'm
I'm
mumbling
around
my,.
I
have
real
concerns
about
this
public
private
space,
alignment
of
the
path,
and
the
public's
perception
of
where
they
can
go
on
where
they
can
go..
And
so
could
you
elaborate
on
any
discussions
you've
had
with
the
applicant,
and
and
why
they
kind
of
keep
wanting
to
keep
that
path.
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Laurel
witt,,
cob:
right
and
sorry,
this
is
or
away
from
the
city
attorney's
office..
The
main
difference
there
with
the
right
away
versus
an
easement
is
the
maintenance
right?.
It
is
taking
care
of
the
underlying
ground
and
support
when
it's
a
right
of
way..
Even
then,
our
transportation
department
does
take
on
more
of
the
responsibilities
of
maintaining
that
road,
and
it
has
more
transportation.
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Laurel
witt,
cob:,
there's
also.,
so
we
snow
plow
that
area.,
but
then
we
also
for
the
multi-use
path.,
but
we
also
require
that
they
maintain
you
know,
the
area
around
it.,
keep
it
clear.,
that's
part
of
our
easement
is
that
we
have
the
landowner
actually
do
a
lot
of
the
work,,
whereas
right
away
is
a
little
bit
more
on
us
on
the
city
to
make
sure
that
that
space
is
clear..
Now,
there's
a
little
bit
more
work
from
staff,
from
transportation.
Staff..
That's
why
transportation
staff
will
identify
certain
areas
to
be
ride.
A
boy
versus.
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kaplan,
pb:,
yes.,
laura
kaplan,,
pb:
and
sarah
feel
free
to
cut
me
off
at
any
time..
I
welcome
that,
if
I'm
going
too
long.,
so
my
first
question
was
very
much
in
alignment
with
what
ml.
was
talking
about..
It
would
be
really
useful
in
the
future
if
we
have
not
just
the
formula
for
calculating
bonus
units.,
but
how
many
actual
bonus
units
that
we
get
in
affordable
housing..
If
we
grant
this
fourth
story,
height,
modification.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
good
decisions
are
based
on
good
data.
and
right
now
we
know
that
it's
a
a
bump
from
25
to
36,,
but
we
don't
know
what
that
means
in
terms
of
number
of
units
or
number
of
dollars
into
the
affordable
housing
program,
and
that,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly.
so
here's
a
question.
that
fourth
floor
is
cut
away
on
all
of
the
arms
facing
the
creek,
right.
Like
there's
a
section
of
that
fourth
floor,
that
is
missing
on
all
3
buildings
on
every
arm
facing
the
creek..
Do
I
have
that
right?.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
second
question..
I
wanted
to
know
whether
a
previous
comment
was
resolved,
and
that
was
parks
and
rec.
staff
had
had
some
questions
about
the
fish
observatory
and
what
that
would
look
like,,
and
I
want
to
know
whether
parks
and
rec.
staff
were
satisfied
with
the
plan
for
the
fish
observatory,
or
if
they
had,
continuing
questions
or
concerns..
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
okay.
and
has
the
fish
observatory's
relationship
to
the
main
path?
has
that
changed
with
the
redesign
of
the
main
path?
it
looked
to
me
like
the
fish
observatory
is
now
kind
of
off
of
the
main
path,,
and
I
don't
recall
whether
it's
always
been
that
way,
or
whether
this
is
a
change.
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kaplan,
pb:
okay,
thank
you..
I
I
do
recall
seeing
a
lot
of
adaptations
made
in
response
to
dad's
comments,,
but
I
wasn't
quite
sure
about
that
one,.
So
I'll
ask
the
applicant
that
one
I
can
pass
at
this
point
and
come
back,,
although
I
don't
know
if
brad's
hand
came
up,,
so
I
don't
know
if
that
was
in
response
to
something
that
I
just
asked.
If
brad
wanted
to
jump,
in.
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mueller,,
cob:
and
or
in
questions
to
them.,
brad,
mueller,
cob:,
just
trying
to
balance
out
the
overall
conversation
for
the
evening,
and
and
also
the
reminder
that
after
public
hearing
additional
questions
can
be
asked
of
staff..
So
just
just
giving
that
perspective..
We
know
they've
got
a
lot
on,
for.
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sarah
silver:
well,,
it's
a
pb,,
sarah
silver:
one
of
the
question.
one
of
the
boulder
valley
comp
plan
goals
is
about
the
city,
nurturing
and
supporting
and
minimizing
displacement
of
businesses.,
and
I'm
just
curious
what
the
city,,
which
is
5.0
5
b.
c.
v.
p.
vcp,,
I'm
just
sort
of
curious
to
understand..
What
has
the
city
done
to
be
helpful.
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kaplan,
pb:
okay,
thank
you.
and
just
one
more..
I
see
that
staff
originally
had
some
comments
about
the
fencing,
and
I'll
talk
to
the
applicant
about
that.,
but
one
of
the
things
it
says
is
that
a
request
to
include
a
fence
height
greater
than
7
feet
would
need
to
be
re
included
as
a
modification
request
through
site
review..
So
I'm
assuming
that
the
fence
height
has
been
taken
down
to
7
feet
or
less.
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group:
next
slide.
danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:.
I
wanted
to
say,
thank
you
for
shannon
to
shannon
for
stepping
in,
as
our
case
manager..
As
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
staff
turnover
at
the
city,
and
shannon
stepped
in
a
few
months
ago
to
really
help
land.
This
plane,
and
she's
provided
excellent
coordination.
we've
had.
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powell,
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strategy,
group:
next
slide.
danica,
powell,,
trestle
strategy,
group:.
So
in
terms
of
entitlement,,
we
came
for
concept.
in
november
of
2021,.
We
have
subsequently
gone
through
6
reviews
with
the
city
staff
and
multiple
iterations
and
rounds
of
reviews,
with
all
those
departments.
I
spoke
of.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):.
There
were
obviously
many
questions
already
about
the
the
site
that
I'll
I'll
try
to
touch
on
briefly
through
this
presentation.,
but
we
can
circle
back
to
more
question..
During
q.
a.
you
can
see
that
a
lot
of
the
site
is
open.
Space
and
landscape
area
with
boulder
creek
cropping
through
the
bottom.
third
of
the
project,
area.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):
and
the
the
key
framework
for
creating
this
program.
and
the
structure
is
the
peeling
away
of
the
mo.
of
the
boulder
creek
path
from
the
existing
alignment
along
the
edge
of
the
creek.
there've
been
a
lot
of
questions
already
on
this
alignment.
it..
It
is
for
safety
reasons,,
primarily
because
there
is
a
blind
corner
on
both
sides
of
the
bridge
that
exists
today.,
so
that
you'.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):,
which
is
the
view
that
you
will
be
looking
at
on
the
right
hand.
Side
of
your
screen.
we've
also
provided
a
very
generous
buffer
of
landscape,
rain,,
garden,
vegetated
area
between
the
public
and
private
spaces
to
delineate
the
the
difference
in
space
and
transition
between
these
2
areas.
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kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):.
This
is
an
enlargement
of
the
north
side
of
the
open
space
area..
You
can
see
here
we're
pulling
away
that
boulder.
Creek
path.
clearly
identifies
program
space.,
so
we
are
creating
about
a
half
acre,
open
lawn
area
and
the
center
of
the
site,
which
is
allowed
by
the
peeling
away
of
this
pathway..
It
also
separates
cyclists
and
pedestrian
traffic.
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crosier
(wenk
associates):
creating
a
much
nicer
pedestrian
edge
along
the
creek
side..
There
were
questions
about
the
creek
access..
We
have
removed
any
concrete
care
thing
along
the
creek
edge
and
replaced
with
natural
phone
at
a
much
smaller
scale..
So
the
natural
elements
are
brought
into
the
pre
quarter,,
especially
within
the
wetland
buffer.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):
the
preservation
of
those
trees
as
well.,
and
that
will
come
into
play..
As
far
as
I
know.
there
were
questions
on
the
alignment
of
the
boulder
creek
path.,
but
the
elevation
and
location
of
those
trees
that
we
were
able
to
preserve
is
a
key
component
as
to
the
limitations
we
have
on
the
alignment
of
that
path,
and
how
close
or
far
it
can
be
from
the
creek.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):
and
on
the
south
side
of
the
creek
we've
added
new
programming.,
so
the
last
time
this
project
was
here,.
This
programming
did
not
exist,
and
you
can
see
where
the
boulder
creek
path
continues
to
be
aligned
and
then
approved
access
and
connect
to
the
existing
pedestrian
underpass.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):
at
20,
eighth
street,
on
the
bottom,
right
hand,
side
of
the
corner..
There
were
a
few
questions
already
on
programming..
You
can
see
here
that
we
are
creating
publicly
accessible
programs,
space,,
including
active
lawn,
dog,
park
and
pickle
ball..
The
intention
is
for
all
of
the
boulder
creek
path
and
public.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):,
site,,
review,
criteria
and
methods
to
meet
this..
We
worked
over
the
course
of
several
months
to
understand.
Implications.
we
provided
an
updated
arrest
report
as
well
as
created
a
very
thorough
study
of
existing
trees
on
site.
the
trees
shown
in
light
green
are
existing
to
be
preserved..
You
can
see
the
ones
in
the
lawn
that
I
previously
mentioned,,
as
well
as
other
trees,
primarily
along
the
boulder
creek.
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We
were
able
to
amy
mccann,
sar+:
add,
and
trees
onto
the
north
elevation.,
so
a
primary
comment
from
dab
was
looking
at
being
able
to
activate
olson
drive
and
really
treat
it
as
the
future
street
like
it
is
intended
to
be..
So
adding
the
entries
not
only
programmatically
activates
olson
drive,,
but
it
also
brings
some
material
variation,.
As
you
can
see
in
the
elevation.
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Amy
mccann,
sar+:,
so
we
amy
mccann,
sar+:.
We
were
able
to
do
a
couple
of
things.,
so
we
previously
had
services
and
a
waste
room
on
that
corner.,
and
so
we
were
able
to
reprogram
the
corner,,
relocate
the
waste
room
and
the
associated
overhead
door,.
We
were
able
to
relocate
the
transformers
and
electrical
service
equipment
to
the
south
side
of
the
site.
Where
we'll
have
it
fenced.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
an
incredible
scott
carpenter
came
here
after
he
went
to
the
out
to
outer
space..
So
we
have
that
documented
at
carnegie
library..
We
have
really
integrated
a
lot
of
solar
throughout
the
site
on
the
roof..
We
cannot
do
it
in
the
parking
lots
because
of
the
flood
plane.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:,
and
we
do
want
to
retain
the
small
businesses..
We've
worked
very
closely
with
rocky
mountain
tennis
center
to
identify
a
transition
plan
and
work
with
them
as
they
move
into
the
future..
Their
bubble
in
the
flood
plane
is
problematic,
and,
and
their
continuation
is.
A
tennis
center
is
something
that
we
identified.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
why
don't
we
just
assume?,
ask
3
questions
and
then
pass
it.
On.
okay?,
3,
questions.
first,.
This
is
a
transportation
related
question.
Community
cycles
wrote
to
us,
and
I
think
probably
other
people
will
pick
up
on
some
of
their
questions,,
but
one
is
they
didn't
think
it
was
clear
whether
the
multi-use
path
on
20
eighth
street
was
going
to
remain.
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T
Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):.
Would
you
like
me
to
take
that
danica??
I
don't
know
what
that
is,
either.
it's!
It's
a
private
outdoor.,
many
just
outside
of
the
like
interior
club,
room.,
essentially.
so,,
it's
a
enclosed,
elevated
deck
area
attached
to
the
interior
side
of
the
the
building.
with
lounge
and
overhead
lighting..
So
it's
just
off
of
the
north,
south
multi-use
path.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):,
thanks
for
pulling
that
up.
kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):,
it's
essentially
an
additional
amenity,
space.
adjacent
to
the
north,
south
multi
cap.
because,.
Could
you
point
to
it
here??
I
don't
know
that
it's
just
on
the
left
hand,
side
of
the
screen
there.
so
yep,
it'll
be
a
a
a
concrete
paper
area
with
overhead
pistro
lighting,
soft
seeding.
and
then
it's
fully
enclosed
with
a
fenced
area.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:,
the
windows
are
blocked,
in.,
it's
a
little
danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
murky
and
not
accessible..
So
we
have
been
talking
to
parks
and
rec.
about
the
the
idea
that
they
will
improve
that
area
and
we
will
maintain
it..
So
that's
part
of
the
agreements
that
we've
been
discussing.
there's
a
lot
of.
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Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:,
but
I
think
that
by
activating
it,
you
know.
but
we're
balancing,
lighting..
We
don't
want
to
put
a
bunch
of
lights
out
there,
because
it's
a
sensitive,
creek,
habitat.
and
so
we're
trying
to
restore
repairing
areas
and
create
pushes,
but
also
create
access..
So
I
do
think
that
our
plan
and
what
wink
has
done
is
really
incredible..
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E
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I
I
Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:
because
and
the
flood
plane
would
danica
powell,
trestle
strategy.
Group:
preclude
us
from
putting
retail
right
on
20
eighth
street.
We
are
proposing
that
the
ground
floor
be
activated
with
the
residential
uses,
which
are
academic
study,
centers,,
workout,
centers.
I
Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:
competing
with
the
shopping
center
next
to
us,,
because
we
don't
have
that
proximity
to
the
the
street
and
signage.
right?.
So
I
think
it's
I
don't
know
if
it's
about
intensity,,
it's
more
about
use.,
and
so
what
we've
tried
to
do
is
the
ground.
Floor,
then,
has
walk
up,
units,,
more
permeability,,
more
accessibility,
and
any
of
the
uses.
That
would
be.
I
Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:,
especially
the
bike,,
use
the
multi-use
path
that
comes
through
the
center
of
the
site..
Everything
there
is
like
that.
Perch
that
we
were
talking
about
is
about
activating..
The
people
live
there
with
the
people
that
might
be
traveling
through
there.,
so
it's
really
creating.
V
Kevin
eronimous,,
sar+
architects:,
locating
those
active
uses
immediately
on
that
pedestrian
pass
through
rather
than
on
the
20
eighth
street
side..
So
the
20
eighth
street
side,
on
that
very
northeast
corner.
has
some,
you
know.
study
rooms
and
and
student
entries
and
things
like
that,
and
that's
where
the
entry
is
located..
But
it
was
a
deliberate
design,
choice
from
a
pedestrian
and
active
use
to
put
those
components.
Fitness
club,
room.
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A
F
V
V
F
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I
I
I
I
I
Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:,
and
so
I
don't
think
it
would
matter
what
we
did
with
the
buildings..
We
just
tried
to
make
the
best
of
it
and
activate
the
multi-use
path,
so
that
when
people
travel
through
the
site,
they
might
see
their
friends,
or
they
might
pull
over,
and
you
know,
pump
up
their
bike
or.
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Kalyn
crosier
(wenk
associates):,
primarily
the
reason
that
we
have
it
on
the
north
side
of
the
site.
we're
also,.
As
far
as
material
goes,
that'll
be
an
enhanced
concrete,
with
the
pressure
finds
that
shoulder
on
that
edge,.
So
it
will
be
materially
consistent
with
the
rest
of
the
site
as
far
as
way,
finding
and
will
be
more
unique
than
a
standard
concrete
paving
on
the
sidewalk.
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F
F
X
Cody
gratny,
jva:
yeah.
so,
kurt,,
we?,
cody,
gratny,
jva:,
so
it's
a
great
question,
because
we've
been
thinking
about
this
a
lot..
The
irony
is
that
we're
actually
pretty
close
to
matching
our
cut
and
fill
volumes
on
this
site
to
the
flood,
plane,
requirements.
and
and
really
the
building
up
of
the
of
the
buildings
themselves
are
going
to
be
done
mostly
with.
X
Cody
gratny,
jva:
the
foundations,,
and
then
we
will
have
obviously
some
dirt
underneath
of
the
buildings
themselves.,
but
the
rest
of
the
site
is
actually
at
or
around
existing
grade.
and
we're
trying
to
keep
that
pretty
well
balanced
in
here,
due
to
the
flip-play
regulations..
So
we're
having
to
be
really
cognizant
of
that.,
we
haven't
done
any
sort
of
calculations
in
terms
of.
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X
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Pb,
sarah
silver:
okay,
thank
you.
thank
you,,
kurt,
and
mark
your
next.,
and
this
is
not
specific,
because
you're
the
one
talking.,
but
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
people
in
the
public
line
of
who
have
comments.
it's
already
945..
If
we
could
really
keep
our
questions
quite
targeted
so
that
we
can
move
forward
to
the
public
comment,,
that
would
be
awesome.
A
B
I
I
Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy,
group:
part,
I
think,
of
the
next
steps-
will
be
delineating.
Those
maintenance
agreements.
once
we
know
what
they
want
to
do
with
the
fish
observatory,
we
have
easements
over
the
multi-use
path..
The
city
will
maintain
the
multi-use
path,,
but
they
will
have
easements
over
the
larger
public
property,
so
that.
I
I
Danica
powell,
trestle
strategy
group:
to
get
maintenance
over
something
that
has
been
unregulated
for
many,
many
years..
The
fish
observatory
was
like
a
handshake
agreement
that
a
few
people
did,
and
somebody
was
supposed
to
take
care
of
it..
Nobody
did
so..
I
think
everybody
sees
this
as
an
opportunity
for
the
future.
I
I
I
B
B
B
B
B
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I
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I
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A
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Kendall
chitambar:,
I'm
unbelievably
passionate
about
being
a
tennis
provider
and
our
beautiful
city
for
the
last
20
years,,
while
serving
as
the
same
for
the
surrounding
communities
as
well..
It's
been
nothing
short
of
my
life's
privilege
to
have
the
the
incredible
opportunity
to
be
part
of
growing
and
developing
our
sport
in
so
many
ways
at
the
former
harvest,
house.
Y
Y
Y
Y
H
Z
Z
Jonathan
singer:
for
their
amazing
work.,
not
only
on
working
with
this
applicant,,
but
on
the
previous
discussion
on
issue
5
a
I
know.,
the
boulder
chamber
has
been
working
for
quite
some
time
now
to
really
reduce
the
log
jam
and
create
common
sense
solutions.,
and
we're
really
appreciative
of
every
everyone,
from
lisa
to
brad,
to
the
entire
planning
staff
team
for
their
diligent,
thoughtful
work..
To
make
sure
we're
balancing
community
and
business
needs.
Z
Jonathan
singer:,
that
being
said
with
this.
this
specific
project
that
we're
talking
about
today..
These
are
the
kinds
of
projects
that
the
boulder
chamber
is
thrilled
to
see..
When
you
talk
about
a
win-win
case,,
I
really
look
at
this
as
a
when,
when,
when
when?,
when
we're
talking
about
over
15
million
dollars,
a
cash
in
loo,
additional
flood.
Protection.
retention
of
those
small
businesses
that
we
all
value,,
including
a
day
care.
Z
Jonathan
singer:,
but
also
decreasing
pressure
on
single
family
homes,
which
have
because
of
market
pressures,
but
oftentimes
taken
over
by
the
student
population.
today..
This
is
one
answer
to
help
address
that
one
part
of
the
problem.
also,.
We
look
at
workforce,
housing
and
decreasing
commuter
miles.
Z
Jonathan
singer:
and
frankly,
students
who
are
forced
to
live
further
and
further
out,
are
going
to
be
commuting
into
to
you,
boulders
campus.
this..
This
presents
an
opportunity
to
allow
our
students
to
live,
study,
and
work
in
the
same
community.,
and
also
the
creation
of
public
space.
and
and
I'll
close
on.
On
this
real
point
here.,
I
was
a
a
young
lab
in
1,988.
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sarah
silver:
7,
0
6,
1,
4,
3,,
whatever
it
might
be
before
we
start
our
discussion.
so.,
that's
sort
of
the
thinking
I
was
putting
out
there..
You
can
tell
me
I'm
wrong,
and
that
you
don't
want
to
do
it.
This
way,,
but
I
just
once
was
trying
to
make
a
suggestion..
Can
I
ask
you?,
can
I
ask
a
question?
real
quick,
sar?,
just
of
clarification.
what
you
just
said.
G
A
A
A
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
alright.,
so
let's
do
this..
Let's
go
through
the
key
issues.
at
that..
In
each
of
these
key
issues
we
can
each
bring
up
the
things
that
we
are
concerned,
about,
or
might
want
to
have
a
condition
of,
and
I
think
if
we
can
quick,
do
a
quick,
round.
Quickly.
do
this,
and
I'm
I'm
not
trying
to
get
us
done
before
1030,,
but
I
am
trying
to
not
make
this
a
2
h,
process.
A
A
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
sara,
can
I?
can.
I?.
I
have
a
I'm
sorry.
I
hate
to
do
this,,
but
since
this
is
our
first
time
using
the
the
new
criteria,,
I
have
a
serious
concern
with
using
the
new
criteria..
We
are
using
the
old
criteria,
because
this
was
proposed
back
at
this.,
that's
been
going
through
under
the
old
criteria.
oh,
okay,.
I
I
still
have
a
a
concern
with
how
this
key
issue
number
one
is
phrased,,
because
in
in
my
understanding.
G
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
and
question
number
one
would
then
be
consistency
with
boulder
valley,
comp
and
policies..
Are
you
guys?
okay,?
We
slightly
modify
key
issue
number
one
to
bbt.
Policies.
okay.
t.
issue
number
one..
What
are
our
thoughts?
About?
is
the
project
on
balance
consistent
with
the
bbc
bdcp
policies.
G
A
A
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
I
I
don't
love
how
they
meet.
vvcp,
2.4,
one
section
j,,
which
talks
about
fostering
appeal
of
buildings
through
attractive,,
well
designed
architecture
and
innovative
approaches
to
design..
I
don't
love
the
design
of
this
building..
I
think
it's
a
missed
opportunity
for
enhanced
design.,
but
there's
enough
to
love
about
this
project,
and
it
meets
enough
of
the
bbcp
policies
that
I
will
say.
That.
yes,
it
on
balance
meets
the
bvcp
policies,
and
I
do
think
it's
consistent
with
the
land
use.
Map.
B
E
Q
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
from
in
terms
of
the
pu,
the
policies,,
the
ones.
I
think
it
does
not
meet
our
tangential
to
the
discussion..
So
I'm
I'm
fine
with
it
as
I'm
fine
with
whether
it
needs
pvcp
policies.,
I'm
not
fine
with
other
elements.
right?
so,
key
issue,
number
2,
a
is
general
site.
Review.
criteria.
key
issue.
to
be
is
specifically
the
modifications
requested
for
building
stories
and
height
and
parking
rejection..
Are
they
consistent
with
review
site
review
criteria.
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Ml
robles,
pb:,
since
I'm
being
responsive.
pb,.
Sarah
silver:,
you
were
responding
to
what
you
were,,
you
were,,
you
were,
you
were.
you're
you're
you're,
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you're,
you're,
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you',.
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Laura
kaplan,
pb:
h.
3,
b.
little,,
I
says,
larger
floorplate
buildings
and
projects
with
multiple
buildings
have
a
variety
of
forms
and
heights,
and
th..
This
building
would
be
stretched
to
say
that
that
is
true.,
but
in
general
I
do
think
it
meets
the
applicable
site
review
criteria,
I
think,
having
all
of
the
tree
screening
on
this
building
on
these
buildings
helps
a
lot
with
how
it's
gonna
look
from
the
creek
path,
and
how
it
will
be
compatible
with
the
surrounding
environment.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
I
would
say,
yes,.
I
think
it
meets
the
applicable
site
review
criteria
in
terms
of
the
height,
modification.,
the
existing
hotel
that
is,
there
now
is
60
feet
in
height,,
and
this
proposal
is
lower
than
that
in
terms
of
building
height..
It's
only
like
52,
or
53
feet
high,,
although
the
site
will
be
elevated.
and
so,
apparently,
in
the.
G
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
it's
justified
on
the
site,
and
we
can
get
the
community
benefit.
that's
important
to
me.,
and
so
I
am
inclined
to
say,.
This
height
modification
is
is
just
fine,
and
I
think
staff's
rationale
was
perfectly
appropriate
for
why
this
could
be
granted
under
the
code..
So
I'm
fine
with
the
height
modification.,
I'm
also
fine,
with
the
parking
reduction
given
that
it
is
student
housing,-
and
you
know
I
do
think
that,
as
I've
said
in
previous
meetings,,
students
are
among
the
most
likely
people
to
live
without
a
car
in
boulder.
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
so
that's
one
of
the
big
things
that
people
need.
a
car
for.
campus
is
literally
right
across
the
street,
and
there's
an
underpass
there
like
that..
I
think
that
this
is
a
great
location
for
students
living
without
a
car..
If
this
were
concept
review,,
I
probably
would
push
for
more
in
the
tdm.
plan.,
more
car
sharing.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
maybe
having
a
scooter,
location,
scooter,
rentals,,
something
more
innovative
and
and
maybe
a
longer
period
of
runway
for
those
eco-passes..
But
this
isn't
concept
review..
This
is
site
review,
and
I'm
not
gonna
deny
the
project
based
on
their
tdm
plan
could
be
better..
I
do
think
that
the
parking
reduction
is
appropriate.
A
A
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A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
that
trip
generation
for
multi-family
housing
and
trip
generation
for
student
housing
would
be
similar
for
parking
demand..
That's
a
huge
assumption.
That's
very
easy
to
poke
holes.
In.
multi-family,,
multi-family
housing
is
made
of
a
folks
who
are
driving
all
the
time
commuting,
driving
to
aaron's,
taking
kids
to
school,,
etc.
A
A
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G
Laura
kaplan,,
pb:
yes,
and
before
we
move
on,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
they
were
all
operating
on
the
same
information
basis
about
the
parking..
I
think
I
did
read
in
the
packet,
with
the
proposed
lease
language
that
residents,
who
do
not
pay
for
a
parking
space
need
to
either
certify
that
they
do
not
plan
to
bring
a
car.
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Jorge
boone,
pb:,
I
I
just
I
I
don't
know
that
to
to
mark's
point
the
other
thing
is,
we
might
not
reach..
There
might
be
a
point
where
there
might
be
an
impact
where
conditions
don't
make
sense
right?,
but
I
I
don't.,
I
don't
know
that
we're
there
yet.,
given
given
the
level
of
the
nature
and
and
level
of
our
discussions
yet.,
I
I
do
think
it
will
take
some
time.
A
M
M
A
A
A
A
A
E
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A
Ml
robles,
pb:
all
right,
staff,.
Do
you
hear
that,
charles??
We
can't
hear
you
apologies?
yeah,,
that
that
would
be..
Our
hope
is
that
we
would
just
keep
it
to
finishing
up
on
this
item.
yeah,,
so
not
our
hope,,
but
our
reality.,
because
I
you
know,
we're
not
usually
supposed
to
be
meeting
on
that
day,
anyway..
But
I
would
come
for
this.
Project.
okay?.
A
A
A
Pb,
sarah
silver:
can
the
the
the
airport
letter,.
If
we
can
do
that
quickly,
matters,
we'll
do
matters,,
but
we
will.
it's
6
30
in
the
morning
where
george's
and
lisa
has
a
one
and
a
half
year,
old,,
so
they're
going.,
if
folks
are
able
to
stay,
that'd,
be
fantastic.
If
you
have
to
go.,
we
understand.
thank
you.
B
B
B
A
A
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb::
this
is
an
unusual
process
with
the
airport..
I
think
it's
it's
novel
for
staff..
This
doesn't
come
up
very
often,,
this
kind
of
process.,
it's
novel
for
us,
and
we
have.
I've
talked
this
over
with
sarah,
and
she
and
I
have
very
similar
perspectives
about
what
might
be
helpful
for
the
the
process.
that
is
not
currently
planned.
and
hopefully,.
It
would
also
be
a
positive
thing
and
a
clarifying
thing.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
for
staff
to
get
some
additional
direction
from
city.
Council.-
so
the
letter
to
city
council
basically
does
3
things.
one,.
It
really
thanks
and
appreciate
staff
for
listening
to
some
of
our
prior
input
and
making
sure
that
that
range
of
scenarios
for
the
future
of
the
airport
does
include.
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
the
the
letter
talks
about
why,.
We
think
that
would
be
a
beneficial
thing.,
but
I
think
the
main
point
is
that
we
do
view
this
consideration
of
the
future
of
the
airport
to
be
a
land
use,
change
issue,.
Even
though
the
process
is
not
looking
at
land.
use
change
right,
now.,
we're
not.,
we
don't
have
a
map
change
on
the
agenda.,
it's
a
little
bit
more
preliminary.,
but
city
council
will
be
guiding.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb::
do
we
either
keep
the
airport
open,,
or
do
we
really
move
down
this
pathway
of
decommissioning
and
housing?,
and
we
think
it
should
get
a
public
hearing
before
it
gets
to
that
point.?
So
we're
asking
for
a
public
hearing
at
planning
board
on
this
airport
topic
that
we
would
have
the
4
scenarios
presented
to
us,,
have
a
public
hearing
and
be
able
to
provide
some
input.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
then
the
second
request
is
this,.
This
idea
of
decommissioning
the
airport
and
having
housing.
obviously,
we've
never
done
that
in
boulder
before,
and
there's
some
information
that
we
think
would
be
very
useful
to
staff
or
to
councils.
deliberations
that
staff
do
not
currently
have
scoped..
You
know
the
scope
is
quite
narrow.
and
so
we're
suggesting
that
they
they
add
to
the
scope.
and
that
city
council,.
You
know,
request
direct
staff.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
to
do
some
pre
work
on
this
idea
of
in
airport
to
housing
transition..
What
would
it
take
in
terms
of
staff
resources.?
You
know,
scoping
the
idea
of
a
housing
plan,,
a
transportation
plan
and
infrastructure
plan.,
exploring
what
the
benefits
could
be
obtained
from
doing
a
decommissioning.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
then
also,.
What
is
it
gonna,
cost,
and
what's
the
hassle?
and
what's
the
the
process
of
trying
to
get
a
decommissioning
with
the
faa
and
kind
of
exploring
that
with
other
communities
that
have
gone
through
this
process.?
So
we're
we're
basically
suggesting
that
council
direct
staff
to
do
some
of
that
research
before
it
comes
to
council
for
a
decision
on..
Do
you
want
to
keep
the
airport,
or
do
you
want
to
decommission?.
E
E
E
G
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
A
A
A
C
C
G
Laura
kaplan,,
pb:
sarah,
is
that
okay
with
you?,
laura
kaplan,,
pb:
okay,
so
and
and,
brad,.
I
completely
understand
where
you're
coming
from.
and
I've
been
part
of
many
processes.,
and
I
understand
that
you
get
a
lot
of
demands
from
a
lot
of
different
perspectives,
and
every
single
one
of
them
can
blow
up
your
timeline,
blow
up
your
budget..
You
know
you.,
you
can't
do
everything
that
everybody
wants
to
do..
So
I
completely
understand
that.
G
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
that
is,,
where
people
can
can
speak
to
decision
makers,
and
whether
that's
at
planning
board
or
whether
that's
at
city
council,.
I
do
think
that
there's
a
role
for
that
kind
of
come
to
the
podium
and
have
your
3
min..
That
is
missing
from
this
process.
As
far
as
as
it's
been
explained
to
me
so
far.,
and
if,
if
council
thinks
it's
more
appropriate
to
have
that
kind
of
input
at
their
meeting,,
I
think
that's
fine..
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
that
at
least,,
I
think,
to
you,
south,.
I
wasn't
part
of
that
process,,
but
planning
board
usually
takes
a
look
at
it,
and
then
we
add
our
thoughts
and
recommendations
to
the
packet
of
materials
that
council
gets
to
review..
So
if
we're
trying
to
be
out
of
sequence
here
and
council
thinks
that
it's
more
appropriate
to
have
that
input
later.,
I
I
think
that's
fine.,
but
I
agree
with
sarah
that
we
want
to
at
least
raise
this
to
them,,
that
there
is
currently
no
public
hearing
scheduled
and
and
give
our
recommendation.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
I
I
I
hope
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
a
bigger
lift
than
it's
intended
to
be
right,
like.,
so
for
that
first
bullet:
point
about
estimating
costs,,
resources,
and
level
of
effort
to
negotiate
with
the
faa.
That
could
be
as
simple
as
a
few
phone
calls
to
managers
at
other
airports
who
have
done
this
like,.
Did
you
have
to
go
through
litigation??
How
long
did
it
take??
What
were
the
who
did
you
use
as
an
attorney??
What
was
your
result??
What
did
it
cost??
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
the
scoping
of
staff
level
or
consultant
studies,.
You
know.
we're
not
certainly
suggesting
that
you
should
do
a
housing
plan
than
an
infrastructure
study
and
a
transportation
plan,,
but
at
least
have
a
general
sense
of
the
scope
of
those
efforts,,
and
I
don't..
I
don't
know
how
long
it
generally
takes
to
scope
something
like
that.,
but
hopefully
it
wouldn't
be
too
big
of
a
lift.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
and
then
the
third
bullet
point,,
estimating
market
value
of
the
land
and
revenue
gains
in
the
city..
That
could
be
something
as
simple
as
using
something
like
holiday
as
a
reference,
point,
and
saying,.
If
it
were
built
to
this
level.
in
this
kind
of
pattern.,
here's
about
how
much
we
would
expect
in
property
taxes
and
sales
taxes,
if
it
were
in
a
similar
density
with
a
similar,
similar
level
of,,
you
know,
neighborhood
serving
business
versus
residents.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:
hopefully,
those
things
don't.,
don't
you
know.,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
like
defensible
in
court?.
It
can
be
kind
of
back
at
the
envelope..
But
right
now
we
have
none
of
that..
That
is
publicly
available
information,,
and
it
would
be
good
for
council
to
have
access
to
some
of
that
before
they're
asked
to
make
a
decision..
So
that's
kind
of
the
intention
there.
G
Laura
kaplan,
pb:,
it's
not
meant
to
be
a
a
work,
plan,
level
of
detail..
It's
just
meant
to
be..
Let's,
let's
do
something
to
give
people
some
sense,,
because
right
now,
there's
no
sense
of
how
many
units.
could
this
be
like?
people
are
throwing
around
numbers,.
It
would
be
good
to
have
staff.
Give
us
some.