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A
Hadasa
(she/her):
we're
excited
to
see
you
here,
and
because
it
was
last
minute
in
case
for
those
who
are
not
aware..
New
panelists
are
the
alternate
to
drew
numbers
yesterday,,
and
so
we
got
notice
of
who
our
new
panelists
would
be
yesterday.
and
so,,
because
it
was
such
a
quick
turnaround.
You
know
we're
we're
very
fortunate
that
he's
able
to
be
here
with
us,
tonight.
but,
lizzy,
be
able
to
join
us
in
the
july
meeting.
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A
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E
A
Hadasa
(she/her):,
we
give
them
a
clarification.,
hadasa,
(she/her):
and
then,.
If
there
are
any
complaints
for
members
of
the
public
who
are
here.,
we
do
have
a
web
address
at
the
golden
colorado.
gov,
backpack
services,
backslash,
police
oversight.,
and
that
is
where
you
can
submit
online
complaints.
and
then
there's
also
a
link
to
our
panel
email,,
which
is
police
oversight
panel
at
boulder,
colorado.com.
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A
A
A
Hadasa
(she/her):
anything
that
is
not
specific
to
ordinance
work.,
the
the
bpd
did
post
call
that,
and
they
did
cancel
the
specific
ones.,
but
because
we
have
other
ones
on
calendar
obviously,.
We
still
have
that
other
on
the
calendar.
I
do..
I
think
that
it
was
mentioned
that
communications
committee
was
maybe
trying
to
work
something
out
on
that..
Does
anybody
want
to
say
on
that
now,
or
we
can.?
We
will
have
a
moment
for
committees
later,.
If
you
want
to
follow
up
with
that
later,
as
well.
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C
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E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
on
the
daniel
leonard
(he/him):
meeting
with
chief
of
police.,
I
can
actually
talk
to
that
because
I
think
I
was
in
the
cross
wires
before..
We
got
the
request
from
the
city
side
to
cancel
that
meeting.
I
reached
out
to
victor,
and
solid.as
chairs
of
the
communications
committee
to
hand
off
that
meeting.,
since,
since
I've
been
doing
those
in
the
interim
and
then
and
then
we
got
the
request.,
so
I
think
there
was
just
some
misal
wire
this
miscommunications
there.,
but
I
do
want
to
reiterate
victor.
E
I
A
A
A
A
A
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):,
you
know
august
or
september,,
basically
for
our
next
weekend.
but
also,
can
I
just
add
something
on
the
ordinance?.
My
preference
would
be
that
it
go
through
the
work
group.-
I
mean,,
the
police
department,
has
a
representative
on
the
worker..
So
that
is
on
the
work
group..
And
so
when
we
do
have
a
working
draft,,
I
mean,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
people,,
including
the
police
department,
that
are
going
to
be
getting
copies
and
working
through
it.
and
so..
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):,
you
know,,
I
I
I
do
need
to
be
organized
in
terms
of
collecting
all
the
feedback.,
and
so
it
would
be
easier
if
it
kind
of
goes
through
the
process
that
I
set
up,
and
so,
like,.
Once
we
have
a
working
draft,,
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
opportunities.
to
get
feedback.,
and
I
I
I'm
pretty
confident
they're
gonna
want
to
weigh
in,
in
addition
to
the
union
representatives
and
all
the,
you
know,
associated
organizations,
throughout,
you
know,
boulder.
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):
do
what's
work
and
go
through
the
process.
but
there!,
but
the
way
that
my
hopefully,,
my
optimistic
timeline
is
going
is
that
the
feedback
will
happen
to
hopefully
way
before
september..
So
I
don't
think
you'll
have
to,
you
know,
by
far
away
for
that
meeting
at
any
any
stretch
of
the
imagination.
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Aimee
kane
(she/her):
all
right.
okay,
perfect..
Then
we
will
move
to
the
next
item
on
our
agenda.,
which
is
a
status
report.
on
the
hiring
of
a
new
monitor,,
and
I
believe
that
would
be
you..
That
is
great..
Thank
you.
So
much
so..
We
were
fortunate
that
we
received.,
I
believe
it
was
53
applications.
D
Aimee
kane
(she/her):
we,,
the
recruiter,
narrowed
it
down
to
a
smaller
match,
and
we
are
meeting
with
the
recruiter
tomorrow.
to
determine
who
we
want
to
move
forward
for
virtual
interviews.,
which
are
scheduled
for
next
week
or
the
week
after,
and
then
good
news.
july.
Eleventh
to
the
evening
of
july.
Eleventh,
hoping
you
all
have
that
on
your
calendars.
D
Aimee
kane
(she/her):,
we
are
going
to
be
hosting
the
community
event.
Again.
we're
gonna,
open
it
up
to
more
participants
at
this
point,,
since
health
health
requirements
are
are
better
than
they
were
this
winter.
When
we
were
hosting
that
that
evening.
event.,
so
we'll
we'll
be
having
a
press
release
coming
out
for
that
and
an
invitation
for
you
all
to
attend,
that
is,
sending
that
out
to
far
and
wide,
as
much
as
we
can
to
get
people
to
participate
and
not
to
meet
the
candidates.
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E
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):
thanks,,
daniel.
well,,
I'm
really
excited
to
report,,
because
I
feel
like
it's
taken
as
a
while
to
get
here
that
we
did
have
our
first
worker
meeting
last
night.
and
just
to
kind
of
reiterate,,
because
I
I
know
there's
been
a
lot
of
emails,,
but
there
was
mostly
about
the
community
event..
But
in
terms
of
the
work
group
we
have
hadasa
on
it..
So
the
dad.
B
B
B
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):,
so
I
felt
like
it
was
a
really
fruitful
conversation
in
terms
of
being
on
the
same
page
about
the
work
group
and
understanding
that,,
you
know,
it's
kind
of
one
part
of
the
recommendations.
that
will
go
to
council,
and
obviously
council
will
be
the
final
final
decision,
maker.
and
then
obviously,.
There
will
be
other.
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):
other
groups
that
will
weigh
in
one
of
the
topics
that
came
in
was
communication..
I
can't
remember
who
who
who
asked,,
but
I'm
like
the
panel,
is
not
gonna.
Let
me
get
away
with
not
communicating
with
them
on
the
on
the
ordin.,
so
so
I
told
them
that
I
was
planning
on
a
bi
weekly
cadence
for
the
panel,,
and
then
I
have
a
group
of
stakeholders
that
I've
met.
With,
and
I've
talked
to
you
through
this
process..
I
have
them
on
a
completely
different
email
chain
that
I
sent
updates
to.
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):,
and
so
that's
really
farah
muscadin
(she/her):.
The
plan
that
we
talked
about
yesterday,
and
we
have
set
the
scheduled
calendar
invites.
we're
meeting
every
tuesday
pretty
much
throughout
the
summer.
and
I
think
we're
going
to
be
able
to
move
pretty
pretty
quickly.
we're
handling
it
by
topics
and
then
working
through
some
language.
B
A
A
A
A
Hadasa
(she/her):
yeah,,
I
think
I
I
I
felt
like
it
went
really.
well,
I
felt
like
it
was
a
a
good
first
start.
and
so
we'll
be
having
those
every
tuesday
as
you
know,
in
the
afternoon,
or
whatever.
and
so,.
If
there
is
any
questions
or
anything
that
does
come
up
for,
anyone,
feel
free
to
send
those
to
either
the
general
panel
or
to
to
us,,
and
we
can
make
sure
that
those.
B
Farah,
muscadin,
(she/her):
and
so
madeleine
did
an
email
introduction,
maybe
last
week,
and
I
followed
up
and
then
and
called
me
to
make
sure
that
we
connected,
and
that's
when
we
talked
about.
We
think
that
she's
out
of
town.,
so
we
just
we're
going
to
follow
up
with
her..
I
plan
on
following
up
with
her
tomorrow.
no,
madeleine,
has
been
contacting
her
as
well..
So
then
we
can.
we
can
make
that
contact.
and
she'll
be
open
to
joining
the
worker.
Both,
though.
vita
howell.
B
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
B
A
A
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
in
the
boulder
public
library.
you
can
visit
us
on
at
our
website..
You
can
learn
more
info.,
but
that's
one
of
the
opportunities
that
the
working
group.
and
thank
you.
communications
committee
solely
on
victor
elon
for
putting
that
opportunity,
together.
and
so,
you
know,
kind
of
reiterating
what
ferret
has
said
is
that
you
know
the
working
group.
Is
this
core
group
of
folks
who
is
facilitating
the
process?.
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
but
the
process
also
takes
the
rest
of
us,,
showing
up
to
these
engagement
opportunities
to
to
get
our
feedback
in.
and
really,
that
feedback
session.
Next
week,
you
know,
we're
we're
handing
the
microphone
over
to
the
community.,
we're
sharing
the
ordinance
in
advance..
So
you
know,,
you
can
be
a
specific
or
general
and
your
feedback
as
you'd
like.,
but
it
really
is.
E
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
2,
spanish
translators.,
I'm
assuming,,
that's
what
you
met.
yeah,
okay,
yeah,,
so
yeah,
so
what?,
and
we
also
have
spanish
translators
there
as
well.
as
well
as
we.
The
ordinance
has
been
translated
into
spanish.
thank
you,
milan,
for
heading
up
that
initiative.
and
so,
yeah.,
and
these
opportunities
are
going
to
come.
and
I
really
encourage
the
rest
of
the
panel
to
victor
sent
it
out..
So
I'm
just
gonna
raise
victor's
voice
up
for
us
all
to
get
out
there
and
really
be
sharing
this
with
our
community.
I
I
I
I
I
Victor
king
he/him:,
so
if
you
want
to
do
some
of
this
on
your
own.
they're
in
the
tape
building
and
the
lobby.,
I
understand
you
can
just
pick
up
a
stack
and
go
put
them
up
somewhere..
We
also
have
the
resources.
thank
you,,
farrah,
of
letting
us
know,
about.,
there's
an
intern
that
can
literally
post
these
up
in
different
places.
I
I
I
I
I
D
D
D
I
E
B
E
H
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
that
yeah.
so
the
community
event
that'll
be
sorry..
Just
close.
The
window.
such
january
or
january.
wait
a
minute.,
y'all
june
20
first.,
so
that's
wednesday,
june
20.,
first
5
to
6
45
pm.
at
the
canyon
theater..
So
that's
inside
the
boulder.
public
library,
the
one
on
a
wrap.
ho!,
the
main
branch
library.
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C
Soledad
diaz
(she/ella):
someone
I
do..
I
have
share
with
some
of
you
what
I
think
the
challenges
are
to
be
in
these
groups,
as
you
know,
immigrants,,
or
having
make
status
families,
and,
you
know,,
acknowledging
those
challenges,.
I
think,
is
very
important
specifically
for
this
group
in
terms
of
understanding..
You
know
how.
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Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
it
was
really
important
outreach
to
our
nonprofits
and
and
boulder
and
and
making
those
connections.,
and
I
think
you
know
the
lesson
learned
from
that
is
how
how
dependent
that
is
on
us
as
individuals,
to
do
that
outreach
in
advance
of
need..
That
was
the
kind
of
thing
we
ran
out
to
is
that
we
we
popped
up
and
we
said,
hey,
we'd,
like
you
to
serve
on
this,
and
that
was
kind
of
out
of
the
blue
is
that
we
have
to..
We
have
to
make
those
connections
as
we
go.
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
and
I
enact,
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
grateful
for
centralized
for
serving
on
the
selection
committee
for
seeing
that
process
through.,
but
to
your
point,.
I
think
I
think,
what's
most
important
is
the
accessibility
question
as
well,
is
making
sure
that
this
work
remains
accessible
to
the
folks
who
are
asking
to
step
in
and
to
do
it,
and
to
be
asking
that
question
about
the
work
when
people
say.
E
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
this
is
a
first
for
the
city
of
boulder
for
us
to
be
so
on
the
front
edge
of
of
raising
up
marginalized
voices,,
and
so
we
can..
We
can
leave
that
work
with
with
the
questions
of
accessibility
and
exactly
what
you're
doing.
so
like
dot,,
which
is
to
raise
the
question
and
depress
the
issue.
and
I,
yeah,,
and
I
encourage
all
of
us
to
continue
making
those
community
connections
so
that
we
we
have
a
strong
basis,
support
that
we
can
go
to
in
these
situations.
E
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):
yeah..
The
only
thing
that
I
was
gonna
add
is
that
I
do
think
it's
also
a
lesson
learned
to
to
the
panel
in
terms
of
just..
I
don't
know
if
you
should
necessarily
limit
yourself
to
organizations,
too,,
I
think,
kind
of
really
broadening
it.,
because
with
that
vote
you
really
did
limit
yourself..
So
I
think
that
that's
also
just
a
lesson
from
experience.,
but
but
I
also
want,,
I
mean.
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her)::
this
is
community
work
right?
and
in
the
working
group,
is
not
necessarily
a
bubble.,
and
so
I
feel
like
there
is
still
space
for
centre
on
this,
that
in
a
way
that's
comfortable
with
them,
and
what
I'm
suggesting,
and
I
think
they
would
take
it.
They
would
take
me
up
on
this
because
I've
already
met
with
them
once
is
that
as
we
get
further
down
in
the
process,,
I
could
just
meet
with
them
directly
to
get
their
input,,
because
that
to
me.
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):
hopefully,
will
alleviate
some
of
the
concerns
that
were
brought
to
me
about
their
participation,,
and
so
they
can
still
have
a
seat
at
the
table..
It's
just
through
a
different
mechanism.,
and
so
I
can
commit
to
doing
that..
I
mean,
I'm
doing
that
for
a
lot
of
other
organizations..
I
don't
know
why
I
would
not
do
that
for
central
on
the
start,
and
so
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
at
least
there's
their
voice
is
heard
in
this
process.,
and
so
I'm
I'm.
B
Farah
muscadin
(she/her):
happy
to
do
that,
and
I
I
think
they
would
welcome
that
opportunity
to
meet
with
me
one
on
one.,
once
we
have,
like
something
more
substantive
to
go
back
and
forth
on,
to
sit
down
and
have
a
meeting,
and
you
know,
having
getting
their
feedback
directly
and
just,.
You
know,
giving
it
to
me
directly.
L
L
L
Mylene
vialard
(she/her):
yeah,,
if
you
could
respond,
and
then
I'll
make
a
list,,
and
we
can
divvy
up
that
work
for
the
next,,
maybe
not
for
june
20
first,,
but
for
the
next
community
meeting
that
we
have
around
the
ordinance,
so
that
more
people
can
be
at
least
aware
of
it
and
aware
of
us..
Because
what
has
come
out
to
me
is
that
the
people,,
especially
in
the
latinx
community,,
don't
know
about
who
we
are.
L
E
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
Florence
finkle:
department
responded
that
this
is
a
valid
point,
and
the
department
is
looking
at..
It's
required
training
calendar
for
me
for
the
remainder
of
the
year,
and
it's
going
to
see
how
best
to
integrate
such
training.
and
it's
in
service
training..
The
second
recommendation
the
panel
made
was
that
the
department
should
establish.
M
Florence
finkle:
the
department
responded
that
it
is
looking
into
this
and
also
looking
into
what
existing
systems
are
in
place
throughout
the
city
and
in
human
resources,.
And
if
there
are
ways
to
make
anonymous
complaints,,
it
will
ensure
that
they
are
shared
internally
with
employees,,
as
they
may
not
be
well.
Known.
M
M
M
florence
finkle:
that
is,
in
the
process
of
trying
to
get
credited
by
the
commission
on
the
credit
accreditation
for
law
enforcement
known
as
kalia,,
and
the
department's
plan
is
to
review
and
revise
all
of
its
policies,.
And
it's
going
to
evaluate
the
current
pto
policy
to
see
if
it
can
integrate
this
recommendation.
assuming
it
meets
kalias,
standards,
and
finally,.
The.
M
Florence
finkle:
rank
and
or
direct
chain
of
command,,
who
is
an
employee
affected
and
clarify
whether
subordinates
are
required
to
make
notifications
regarding
a
supervisor,,
subordinate,
relationship..
The
city's
equity
officer
advised.
that
the
city
attorney's
office
is
examining
the
nepotism
policy.
and
I
want
to
say
one
other
thing
about
this
case,,
because
this
has
come
up
in
a
number
of.
M
M
M
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Teresa
magula:,
they
officers
in
this
case,
through
their
firearms.
They
manded
that
to
the
driver
of
the
vehicle,
exit
her
vehicle,,
which
she
did..
He
then
was
commanded
to
walk
back
toward
the
officers..
In
doing
so,
the
officers
realized
that
they
had
stopped
the
wrong
vehicle
based
on
the
demeanor
and
the
client
behavior
of
the
individual
driver.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Teresa
magula:
we,,
as
the
independent
police
monitor,,
advised
that
the
vpd.
council
involved
officers
on
communication
with
community
members,,
including
offering
an
apology
where
one
is
warranted
in
this
particular
case,,
but
now
also
recommended,
as
they
have
in
previous
cases,,
and
that
the
department
work
on
its
customer
service,,
including
again
issuing
allergies.
when
those
are
warranted
and
improving
its
communication.
With
the
public.
J
J
J
J
J
M
M
M
E
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
I
also
want
to
take
a
quick
moment.
panelists
to
know
that,
in
accordance
with
the
current
ordinance,,
this
is
our
opportunity..
If
we
have
anything
to
say
in
regards
to
the
judgments
on
a
case,
of
course,
without
we
are
not
allowed
to
share
any
information
beyond
what
the
independent
monitor
has
shared..
But
this
is
our
opportunity..
If
we
have
any
follow
up
on
any
of
those
reviews..
So
just
want
to
open
that
floor
for
just
a
minute..
If
anyone
has
anything
to
say.
A
N
E
E
E
L
L
L
I
I
M
M
M
J
J
J
J
Teresa
magula:
were.
that
they
were
well
advised
of,
of
my
rationale
of
the
perspective
that
we
were
bringing
to
the
table,
in
addition
to
lifting
their
own
concerns
in
their
own
memo,
and
having
an
opportunity
to
review
those
so
to
me
and
to
oi,
our
group,
hopefully
to
the
monitor
that
comes
into
this
position..
J
E
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
and
bpd.
to
follow
up
with
the
reviewing
committee,
for
the
committee
to
review,
follow
up
communications
with
complaints,,
and
so
in
this
case
this
is
the
first
time
we
did.
It
teresa
provided
the
review
committee
the
chance
to
review
her
follow
up
with
the
complainant,
and
then
alice.
There
also
provided
his
follow
up
as
well,,
so
that
the
the
panel
gets
the
opportunity
to
check
and
review
how
we're
being
represented
back
to
complaints.
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
and
then
the
second
thing,
we're
working
on
as
well.
and
and
flow
is
has
started.
Working
on
with
the
police
department
is
a
tracking
document
of
all
of
our
policy
recommendations.
and
so
that's
to
make
sure
we
can
follow
up
on
policy
recommendations
down
the
road
to
make
sure
that
nothing
falls,
you
know,
falls
between
the
cracks
that
we're
tracking
all
those
recommendations
and
requests
for
more
information
with
the
department.
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
so
those
are
2,
small,
adjustments.
and-
and
I
want
to
raise
those
2
in
particular-
is
to
remember
we're
only
really
2
years
into
this.
and
so
any
opportunity
to
help
improve
the
process..
You
know
we
just
have
to
ask
the
question,
and
we
can
take
it
to
the
governance
committee.
E
M
M
M
M
M
M
Florence
finkle:,
the
police
department,,
is
aware
that
florence
finkle:
the
goal
of
the
panel
is
to
publicize.
it's
record
a
policy
recommendations
and
the
department's
response,,
which
is
why
we
gave
them
the
opportunity
to
try
to
fill
it.
the
blanks
somewhere.
Now
throughout
its,
you
know,
in
their
responses.
E
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
I'm
also
going
to
suggest
that
we
go
ahead
and
power
through
to
the
end,
without
a
break
and
go
through
public
comment.,
but
I'm
going
to
wait
30
s
on
that..
If
you
would
like
us
to
take
a
break.
shoot
me
an
anonymous
message..
I
won't
call
anybody
out,
but
also
want
to
make
sure
if
someone
does
need
to
but
take
a
break..
We
do
it.
so,
watching
my
messages
and
hold
for
a
second
in
case.
Anyone
else
has
any
further
comment
with
the
independent
monitors
record.
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
on
the
new
case
reviews
and
any
other
work
on
the
panel,
that's
not
related
to
updating
the
ordinance,,
the
panelists
continuing
to
review
cases
that
it
had
committed
to.
Prior
to
that
vote,
and
tomorrow
evening,
city
council
will
be
discussion.,
we'll
be
discussing
the
moratorium
so
just
raising
that
up
for
public
disclosure.
and
thank
you
to
far,
and
everyone
working
on
the
ordinance.,
because
I
know
we're
all
here
to
review
cases
in
the
end
and
look
forward
to
resuming
full
activity.
E
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):,
so
for
members
of
the
public.
oh,
thanks,,
teresa.,
oh,
mister,,
so
for
public
comment,
every
member
of
the
public
will
be
asked
if
they'd
like
to
comment
this
evening
and
unmuted,
so
that
you
can
answer
the..
If
you
would
like
to
get
comment,
members,
the
public,,
you
will
get
2
unimpeded
minutes
to
do
so..
If
there
is
an
interruption
or
loss
of
connection,,
we
will
stop
the
clock
for
you
and
restart,
which
you
get
back.
In.
E
E
E
Daniel
leonard
(he/him):
just
go
ahead
and
chat
me,
or
at
the
end,
I'll
I'll
double
check
to
see.
If
anyone
has
anything
to
say
but
just
want
to
keep
in
mind,,
though
this
is
primarily
the
time
of
the
community,,
and
so
we
don't
want
to
shut
out
their
voices
by
speaking
more
than
community
members..
But
certainly
when
we
get
questions
or
queries,
we
can,
we
can
jump
in
and
answer
those
as
well.