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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
to
look
at..
How
do
we
manage
access
and
and
develop
innovative
parking?
Strategies?
amps
is
one
of
the
the
many
guiding
documents
that
affects
our
work.
you've
seen
some
recent
projects
under
am,,
such
as
the
performance
based
pricing
and
the
curbside
management
program
and
camp,
is
just
another
one
of
these
projects.
so
just
like
to
acknowledge
the
the
great
support
we
have
from
multiple
departments
across
the
city.
on
working
on
programs
like
that.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
the
purpose
is
really
to
develop
a
staff
recommendation
based
on
data
analysis
and
stakeholder
input
and
provide
those
that
recommendations
to
boards
and,
ultimately,
city
council
on
whether
or
not
to
continue
the
camp
program.
and
if
we
are
to
continue
the
camp
program,.
What
changes
or
modifications
could
we
make
to
that
program?
if
we
are
asked
to
continue
the
program.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
the
camp
program
itself,
had
many
different
elements.
In
order
to
manage
that
demand
and
increase
livability
and
it,.
It
basically
took
place
on
the
weekends
and
holidays
between
memorial
day
and
labor
day.,
and
what
we
did
is,.
We
started
to
have
manage
and
paid
parking
at
chautauqua.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
deal
with
paying
to
park,
using
the
mobile
apps
how
to
use
the
shuttle,
the
regulations
around
it
during
covid,
everything..
We
owe
a
lot
of
gratitude
to
visit
boulder
for
helping
make
this
program
successful..
We
also
developed
a
transportation
demand
program
for
the
employers
and
employees
that
actually
work
at
chautauqua
on
a
day
to
day,
basis.
and
and
during
the
summer,
during
the
camp.
Season.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
throughout
the
the
years
of
this
project,,
including
the
colorado
chautauqua
association
visit
border,,
as
I
mentioned,
via
mobility,,
who
provides
the
shuttle
service,
cu
and
vbsd,,
who
provide
the
remote
lots.
The
residents
of
the
neighborhood
to
the
north,,
all
the
park
visitors,
and
then
also
those
chautauqua
employees
and
employers
from
the.
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F
Chris
hagelin,,
cob:
and
basically,.
What
we
do
see
is
that
between
the
months
of
april
to
october
is
where
we
see
average
daily
visits
of
over
a
thousand
people
to
the
park.
of
course,.
The
highest
months
of
visitation
are
under
the
current
camp
season
from
that
memorial
day
to
labor
day
today..
Most
of
the
visitors
that
we're
seeing
as.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
and
we
are
starting
to
see
it
rise
again
after
covid.,
but
we're
still
seeing
that
it's
it's
still
about
half
of
what
it
was
in
it
in
the
early
years
of
the
camp
program..
So
we're
still
seeing
a
rebound
of
the
use
of
that
shuttle
over
the
same
time..
The
shuttle
operational
cost
increase
by
about
22,,
but
because
of
some
reductions
and
the
rental
cost.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
yeah..
I
just
answer
the
the
latter
part..
There
is
no
maximum
part
in
time..
People
can
park
as
long
as
they
want..
That
was
an
issue
we
resolved
very
early
on,
because
many
of
the
climbing
groups,
as
one
example
are,,
are
there
for
long
periods
of
time..
So
there
is
no
time.
limitation..
We
did
not.
over
the
course
of
the
of
the
project.
change
the
parking
in
terms
of.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
any
graduated
pricing
over
time.,
although
one
of
the
considerations,,
as
you
know
from
the
memo,,
is
that
you
know
whether
or
not
we
should
implement
performance
based
pricing
at
chautauqua
to
raise
pricing
on
those
higher,
utilize
things.
So
that
may
be
another
path
to
the
same
thing:
to
help
better
manage
demand.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
providing
the
shuttle
operational
service
and
the
renting
of
the
lots,
and
even
covers
the
extra
cost
of
enforcement.,
because
we
are
having
people
work
on
weekends
and
holidays..
There
is
additional
cost
to
that
parking
enforcement,
but
we're
pleased
to
to
know
that
the
the
revenue
from
parking
and
from
citations
combined
exceed
the
costs
to
operate.
The
program.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
when
meeting
with
the
employers
and
talking
through
every
employer,
said
yes,
camps
should
be
continued..
What
they
would
like
to
see
is
that
camp
the
camp
season
be
extended
in
terms
of
the
months
and
possibly
days
of
operation.
most
of
all,.
I
think
they
would
really
like
to
see
direct
transit
access
to
chautauqua,,
especially
for
their
employees,
to
provide
them
an
alternative
to
having
to
arrive
by
automobile.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
just
like
in
the
city
of
boulder.
in
general,,
less
than
half
of
the
employees
are
boulder
residents..
We
are
seeing
about
half
of
the
employees
who
work
at
chautauqua.
do
drive
alone
at
about
a
quarter
car
pool..
We
do
have
some
that
also
walk
and
bike..
These
are
mostly
musicians
from
the
colorado
music
festival,,
since
they
are
housed
with
families
oftentimes
in
nearby
areas.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
basically.
the
respondents
to
the
questionnaire
said,
yes,.
They
do
purchase
permits.,
they
in
general,
find
it
easier
to
park,
and
that
liveability
has
increased
during
the
camp
season..
I
think
the
issue
they
have
is
that
outside
of
the
camp
season,
really
on
those
shoulders
is
where
they
see
the
issues
of
livability
and
and
parking
management's,
impacting
them.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
most
would
most
of
those
residents
want
camp
to
continue,
and
they
also
wanted
to
see
it
expanded
in
terms
of
the
months
of
the
year,
and
possibly
even
days
of
the
week..
Most
mostly
friday
is
the
big
day,
or
any
day
that
there's
a
major
event
at
chautauqua..
They
also
would
like
to
see
more
electric
shuttles
used.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
we
also
did
a
general
public
questionnaire
on
be
heard
boulder,
and
we
had
qr.
codes
throughout
chautauqua
and
on
the
shuttles
and
on
the
hop
to
chautauqua,,
and
so
we
did
get
a
a
number
of
respondents
to
that
questionnaire.
Most
of
the
respondents
to
that
questionnaire
are
residents
of
the
city
or
the
county,
and
they
generally
come
about
10
times
a
year
to
chautauqua.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
a
chris
hagelin,
cob:
about
half
reported
driving
to
chautauqua
in
some
way
and
1718%.
used
either
the
hop
to
chautauqua
or
the
park
to
park
shuttle,,
and
I
think
the
high..
The
high
numbers
of
this
is
that
the
qr.
codes
were
in
the
shuttle.,
and
so
we
had
a
lot
of
respondents
who
are
actually
sub
shuttle
users
compared
to
the
open
space
data
that
is
looking
at..
Just
all
visitors
in
general.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
those
who
responded
to
the
general
public
questionnaire.
who
who
do
drive
most
of
them,
do
park
at
chautauqua
or
in
the
mpp.
and
pay
for
parking,
but
also
a
good
portion
of
them
also
try
and
find
free
parking
in
their
surrounding
neighborhood..
In
general.,
most
people
said
that
the
the
city
charging
for
parking
has
not
changed
the
frequency
of
their.
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F
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
the
va.,
the
very
the
vast
majority
of
respondents,
also
said
that
they
want
camp
to
continue.
But
they
would
like
to
see
some
modifications.
The
number
one
of
providing
direct
transit
access
to
chautauqua,,
also
expanding
the
camp
season
again
to
that
april
october
timeframe,
using
the
electric
shuttles
and
even
thinking
about
possibly
the
friday
or
event
days
as
well,
for
expanding
service.
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
we
also
worked
with
our
race
racial
equity
team
throughout
this
whole
evaluation,
process,
working
with
that
team
and
and
getting
input
from
our
community
connectors.
Our
surveys
were
available
in
english
and
spanish,,
and
we
did
some
special
outreach
so
to
some
different
groups
who
are
in
the
outdoors
arena..
We
also
have
one
more
event,
the
fiesta.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
the
majority
of
of
visitors
who
respond
to
the
survey,
who
are
non
white,
our
boulder
residents..
They
generally
come
2
to
5
times
a
year..
The
majority
do
arrive
in
car
and
mostly
in
groups.,
it's
a
group
activity.
and
about
one
in
5,
said,.
They
haven't
used
the
park
to
park
or
hop
to
chautauqua
shuttle
at
some
point.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
really,,
the
having
to
pay
for
parking,
has
has
not,
in
general,
impacted
the
frequency
of
their
visitations.
again,
like
the
general
public
survey,.
It
is
crowds,
and
the
difficulty
in
finding
parking,
not
necessarily
having
to
pay
for
it..
There
is
a
high
desire
to
continue
camp,
and
again
the
central
themes
of
expanding
camp
by
month
and
providing
direct
transit
service.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
so
based
on
that
input
and
the
data
analysis
staff,
you
know,
essentially
comes
up
with
2
scenarios.
one
is
discontinue
camp,.
The
other
is
to
continue
camp
with
some
of
the
anticipated
changes
that
we
see
that
we
we
know
that
are
gonna
happen.
and
then,.
With
some
possible
minor
modifications.
The
staff
recommendation
is
to
continue
camp.
Knowing
that
we're
gonna
have
some
of
these
anticipate
changes.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
we
are
looking
forward
to
a
permanent
b
cycle
station
at
chautauqua,,
one
that
is
by
located
by
the
dining
hall,
was
recently
approved
by
landmarks.,
so
we're
just
gonna
work
with
b
cycle
on
getting
that
station
up
and
running..
We
also
may
consider
some
changes
to
the
hop
to
chautauqua
route.,
given
that
we've
had
some
interesting
developments
that
may
wanna.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
since
there
really
is
no
direct
transit
access
and
top
poverty,
makes
it
difficult
and
challenging
for
some
to
reach
it
by
other
modes
than
driving.
One
of
the
other
interesting
things
we
could
do,,
knowing
that
we
have
revenue
that
exceeds
our
operational
cost
is,.
How
can
we
reinvest
that
revenue
into
some
additional
tdm
benefits
for
those
chautauqua
employees.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
how?
How
can
we,
under
kind
of
a
trailhead
access
management
program
and
the
amps
umbrella,
look
at
a
new
way
of
providing
access
to
chautauqua.
that
goes
beyond
that
park
and
ride
model.,
essentially
the
park
and
ride
model
and
the
use
of
the
cu
and
bbsd
lots.
kind
of
put
some
constraints
on
us
on
our
ability
to
expand
the
camp
season.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
basically
giving
support
for
a
future
project
to
really
do
a
feasibility
study
moving
beyond
that
park
and
rattle
model.,
and
how
can
we
provide
direct
transit
or
micro
transit
access
to
chautauqua??
This
would
enable
us
to
expand
the
camp
season
and
our
parking
management
strategies.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
and
to
possibly
serve
more
destinations.
We
see
trailhead
access
as
as
a
new
work
program
within
and
and
partnered
possible,
in
partnership
with
boulder
county..
They
also
already
are
running
the
elder
shuttle
and
the
hesse
shuttle..
So
how
could
we
work
with
them
and
coordinate
with
them
to
create
this
more
holistic
program
to
provide
direct
transit,
access.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
we
know,
if
we
currently
the
parking
revenue
exceeds
the
operational
cost..
If
we
were
to
expand
it,,
that
means
there
would
be
additional
revenue,
but
we'd
have
to
do
a
feasibility
study
to
see,
what
type
of
direct
micro,
transit
or
transit
service
we
could
provide
to
chautauqua
and
have
it
paid,
be
paid
for
through
that
parking.
Revenue.
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
to
flags
at
that,
concludes
my
presentation..
So
in
general,
what
staff
is
requesting
from
tab
is
feedback
on
the
camp
program
in
terms
of
staff
recommendation
to
continue
camp,
knowing
that
there
are
some
anticipated
changes
and
some
potential
modifications
to
the
program
and
the
future
analysis
to
move.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
yeah,
well,.
I
think
that
would
be
part
of..
You
know
this
kind
of
new
program
of
the
trailhead
access
management
program
under
the
amps
of
taking
that
holistic
look..
I
would
say
that
from,
you
know,
staff's
perspective,,
that
we
see
that
charging
for
parking
is
an
effective
means
of
managing
demand..
You
know
we
have
not
gotten.,
I
don't
think
direct.
F
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
you
know
what
impacts
their
frequency
of
visitation,,
the
being
too
crowded
and
the
difficulty
in
finding
parking,
not
paying
for
it..
So
I
think
that
also
shows
support
for
that.,
but
but
I'm
not
aware
of
any,,
you
know
conversations
at
the
higher
level
about
about
it,,
but
that
certainly
will
be,
you
know,
part
of
the
study
session
with
council
in
october.
Is.
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Chris
hagelin,
cob:
something
about
ordinance
changes
that
you'd
be
potentially
presuming
ordinance.
Changes..
Can
you
see
more?
say
more
about
that??
What
would
they
be
sure,
so
essentially
the
the
ordinance
that
would
need
to
be
updated
is
the
ordinance
that
allows
us
to
manage
and
charge
for
parking
at
chautauqua.
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
he
continued,
and
there
chris
hagelin,
cob:.
There
wouldn't
be
another
sunset
and
another
evaluation
that
we
would
have
to
go
through
instead..
It
would
just
happen
in
perpetuity
until
they,
you
know,
chose
to
chose
to
do
it..
Most
of
the
operational
details
of
camp
really
occur
in
the
city
manager,
rules.
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I
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F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
and
the
issues,,
for
you,
know
the
people
who
work
at
chautauqua
as
well.
that
called
for
camp.
in
the
first
place,
it
it
ultimately
was,.
How
do
we
manage
demand
to
to
in
increase
live
ability
in
the
area
because
of
the
the
number
of
vehicle
trips
that
were
being
generated.?
And
so
I
think,
if
we
discontinued
it,
we're
gonna
see
that.
F
I
F
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
directs
us
to
continue
camp,.
The
actual
ordinance
change
is
fairly
straightforward
and
simple..
It's
it's
really
getting
rid
of
the
sunset
date
and
then,
in
terms
of
any
operational
changes
we
would
make
based
on
some
of
those,,
you
know,
anticipated
changes
and
the
potential
modifications..
That's
where
you
know
that
those
changes
would
occur
in
the
city
manager,
rules.
I
G
Tila
duhaime:
authorized,,
I
think
twice.,
so
it
was
like
a
pilot
program,
and
then
a
pilot
program,
and
then
a
pilot
program..
I
think
this
is,
it's
third
iteration,,
but
because
it
was
always
a
pilot
program,,
with
an
exception
to
that
kind
of
like,,
everybody
can
drive
up
for
free
and
park
as
close
as
they
possibly
can..
G
G
Tila
duhaime:,
and
so
it
seems
like
staff,
is
recommending..
We
just
say
this
has
been
successful,
enough.
we're
going
to
proceed
sort
of,
as
is
without
having
to
re,
authorize
this
stuff
year
after
year..
That
does
not
mean
we
can't
continue
to
tinker
with
it,,
but
it
means
we
can
stop
reauthorizing
it
every
2
or
3
years.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
momentum,,
I
think,
can
is
an
example
of
that.
Where
there
was.
you
know,,
we
got
real
sort
of
political
momentum
to
move
things
forward.
and
so
we're
talking
now
about
parking
ordinance
change..
We
have
a
couple
of
other
items
today..
I
think
both
under
board
matters.,
we're
gonna
talk
about
parking,
ordinance,
changes,
and
I
would
be
really
excited
about.
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:,
you
know,,
I
I've
been.,
I'm
just
thinking
that
might
include
things
like
adding
vmt
reduction
to
ordinance
as
as
part
of
what
or
or
mode,
shift
and
or
vision,
0,
but
just
being
thoughtful.
About,
we've
got
a
number
of
things.
We
need
to
counsel
on.
ordinance
changes
around
parking.
I
I
C
C
F
F
F
C
A
A
A
A
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
you
still
have
high
visitation
chris
hagelin,
cob:
and
if
you
look
at
the
chautauqua
trailhead
counts,,
I
mean,
that's
where
you're
seeing
that,
you
know,,
although
for
sure,
the
majority,,
the
the
highest
months,
or
or
june
and
july..
But
you
still
have
over
1,000
visitors
per
day
in
april
and
october
and
in
may
and
in
september..
So
and
that's.
F
F
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
should
we
expand
it
to
those
months
to
carry,
you
know,,
to
cover
the
highest
demand
thing
demand
months:
because,
you
know,
during
the
wintertime,
you
have
much
lower
demand
and
you're
not.
you're,
not
seeing
those
impacts
on
the
neighborhood
or
the
massive
parking
demand
at
the
park
itself..
So
I
think
that's
the
main
thing
it
would
solve..
It's
just,
you
know,
kind
of
those
shoulders,
the
issues
on
those
shoulders
of
the
season.
A
A
A
A
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
it
wouldn't
cover
its
costs
with
an
expansion
of
the
program?
yeah.
well,.
I
think
we'll
have
to
do
a
you
know,,
a
full
feasibility
study
of
that,
and
also
just
look
at
the
capacity
of
even
providing
the
service
with
our
current
provider..
I
think
the
you
know
what
what
we
see
in
terms
of
the
parking
utilization
in
the
mpp.
during
the
camp
season.
We
see
the
lower
utilization
because
we
are
charging
to
park.
F
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
what
it
shows
is
that
kind
of
the
overall
70%,
you
know.
as
you
said,
utilization.,
that's
during
the
camp
season.
That
just
shows
the
effectiveness
of
of
charging
for
parking
and
and
managing
that
demand
so
that
you
can
increase
live
ability
in
in
the
community..
But
when,
when
you're
not
charging
for
it,,
then
you
see
the
utilization
go
up
and
the
liveability
issues
remain.
A
A
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
parking
program.
was
that
I'm
I'm
always.
I'm
a
little
concerned
when
there's
a
lot
of
effort
going
into
like
one
area
in
terms
of
city
resources
and
time
if
it
doesn't
benefit,.
You
know
a
large
like
when,
when
that
could,
you
know,
be
benefiting
another
portion
of
the
city.,
and
I
understand
this
is
a
the
park-
is
a
resource
that
lots
of
people
use..
So
it's
not
just
the
residents
who.
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
benefit
from
this
program.,
but
that's
just
kind
of
where
I'm
coming
out,,
where
I'm
weighing.
well,.
What
is
that
sort
of
investment
of
city
resources
and
doing
more
in
this
area
versus
other
things,?
You
know,
on
the
very
kind
of
full
plate
of
items
that
there
are
to
work
on,
and
that's
where
I'm
just
not.
A
A
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
that
the
revenue
is
covering
the
cost
of
providing
the
shuttle,
renting
the
lots,,
providing
the
extra
parking.
ii
would
think
that
if
we
expanded
the
camp
season
and
continued
and
managed
parking
for
a
much
larger
timeframe.
and
still
pro,
you
know,,
providing
that
service,
you
know
whether
it's
on
the
weekends
or
or
expanded.
ii
would.
F
F
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
to
to
do
that..
It's
it's
gonna,
you
know
it..
It
wasn't
really
in
the
scope
of
this
evaluation.,
but
it's
it's
a
much
larger
project
to
to
do
that.
Holistic
feasibility
study.,
but
I
think
we'll
we'll
likely
find
that
that
we're
gonna
be
earning
enough
parking
revenue
that
we
should..
We
should
cover
the
costs.
A
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
trainee?
how
about
you?
go
ahead?,
triny,
willerton,
tab:
yeah.
thanks..
So
I
just
wanted
to
add
about
the
hop.
I
mean,
yeah,
obviously,,
it's
local.,
but
for
people
that
are
traveling
from
out
of
town,
I
mean,
they
can
just
go
to
the
either
to
the
central
station
in
boulder
downtown,
or
they
can
go
to
table
mesa
and
do
a
park
and
ride.
C
F
F
F
Chris
hagelin,
cob:,
who
work
at
chautauqua
in
the
summertime
they
they
would
just
really
love
to
see
direct
transit
access
and,
even
though
you
know
less
than
half
live
in
the
city,
it
would
still
maybe
provide
the
ability
to
take
transit,
you
know,
and
and
get
off
it
at
broadway
and
and
baseline,
and
and
take
a
you
know,,
a
a
bus.
The
rest
of
the
way
up.
F
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:,
yeah.
and
I.
another
thing,
I
just
wanted
to
like,
emphasize..
I
believe
that
I
mean
chautauqua,
and
not
only
the
trails,
but
like
the
the
ampi
theater
and
the
the
diner,
and
everything
that
chaka
has
to
offer..
I
believe
it's
like
one
of
our
biggest
tourist
attractions.
right?,
I
mean,
yeah..
So
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
people
have
a
good
way
to
get
there
and.
C
A
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
transit
that
would
help
transit
access.
That
would
help.
and
I
feel
like
a
lot
of
times
when
ii
would
love
to
take
a
bus
to
some
part
of
the
city,
and
I
live
in
in
the
city,
of
course,,
but
like,,
because
I
have
to
transfer
buses,
it'll.
Take
me
an
hour
to
go
somewhere.
that
is
10
to
15
min
drive.
and
then
I'm
not
gonna
use
a
bus..
So
knowing
like.
A
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:
and
I
mean,
maybe
I'm
wrong.,
but
I
believe
the
hop
doesn't
really
have
that
many
stops,
and
adding
one,
I'm
very
familiar
with
that
route..
So
going
from
like
euclid
and
and
sixteenth,,
which
is
the
other
main
where,
where
you
can
transfer
buses
just
going
up
that
sixteenth
to
baseline,,
I
mean,,
I
don't
think
it
would
be
that.
C
G
G
G
G
F
F
F
H
Chris
hagelin,
cob:
yeah,
and
I
think
that's
what
we'll
have
to
see
you
know,
in
terms
of
visitation.,
I
know.
you
know.
Chautauqua
is
by
far
the
number
one
visited,
area,
and
probably
sanitas
is
number
2.,
but
there's
not
beyond
those
2
trail
heads.,
there's
not,,
you
know,
a
number
of
other
areas
that
have
the
huge.
F
F
F
F
F
G
G
F
F
C
Tila
duhaime:
okay,
thank
you.,
triny
willerton,
tab:
can,
can
I
add,
something?,
I
know
from
conversations
or
from..
I
just
remember
a
lot
of
information
that
chris
shared
when
I
did
the
bike
tour
with
nakto
with
him.,
and
I
mean,.
One
thing
that
we
do
have
to
be
cognizant
of
is
that
a
lot
of
people
that
live
around
the
those
neighborhoods
are
are
elderly,
citizens.,.
C
C
A
A
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
for
a
permit
can
recall
correctly.,
yeah.,
so
half
said
they'd
be
willing
to
pay
more
than
$10
for
a
permit
and
half
didn't.,
so
ii
kind
of
got
mixed
messages
like.
on
the
one
hand,
there's
a
lot
of
enthusiasm
for
expansion,,
but
if
only
half
of
people
are
willing
to
pay
more
than
$10
for
a
permit.,
that's
like,,
not
sort
of,.
You
know,
not
putting
the
money
where
the
sentiment
is,
and
you
know
you
pay
for
things
you
value.
so
ii,
wasn't
totally
sold,.
You
know..
I
think
it's
easy
to
say.
A
Becky
davies,
tab:,
you
want
something
when
it's
just
going
to
be
provided,
and
it
doesn't
cost
you
anything
more..
I
mean,.
I
don't
dispute
real
liveability..
Some
of
these
concerns
that
chris
cited,,
but
I
do
think
some
of
the
survey
data..
It
was
a
small
again,,
a
small
sample,,
but
it
does..
I
think
it
does
kind
of
for
me,
raise
questions
over..
You
know,
the
real.
A
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
hi,,
good
evening,
tab,
and
thanks
for
having
us
this
evening.,
I'm
jean
sanson,
city
of
boulder
transportation,
planning,
and
I
am
joined
by
mitch
beckett,,
who
is
the
project
manager
for
the
co.
7,
preliminary
engineering
and
environmental
project,
and
chris,,
proud
with
hdr.?
Who
is
a
consultant
project
manager
on
the
project.?
So
I'm
just
going
to
very
briefly.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
if
we
jean
sanson,
cob:,
introduce
the
project
and
provide
a
little
bit
of
context,,
much
of
which
was
in
your
memo
but,.
As
many
of
you
know,
east
arapaho,,
colorado,
7
is
passion
project
for
me..
We
have
been
working
on
plans
and
designs
for
this
quarter
for
many
years,,
most
notably
the
easter
rapahoe
transportation
plan,,
which
we,
the
city,
adopt.
J
J
J
J
J
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
taken
as
one
piece
of
a
much
larger
initiative,,
which
is
part
of
the
colorado
7
coalition,,
made
up
of
all
the
jurisdictions
between
brighton
and
boulder..
When
we
think
into
the
future
of
implementing
all
of
these
multimodal
and
safety
improvements,,
we
can
expect
to
see
pretty
great
regional
benefits.
and
so
cd
has
forecasted.
What
some
of
those
benefits
might
look
like.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
okay,,
thanks,
ryan.,
you
know
everything
from
you
know.
a
large
order
of
magnitude
and
reduction
of
annual
traffic
crashes
to
re
reductions
in
vehicle.
miles
traveled
and
then
resulting
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
and
what's
really
exciting
about
this
stage
of
where
we
are
in
preliminary
engineering
for
this
project,
specifically,,
is
that
it's
laying
the
foundation
for
a
lot
of
work.
That's
coming
in
the
very
near
future.,
everything
from.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
so
just
a
little
bit
of
more
context
related
to
this
project.
specifically,,
you
know,
it's
very
much
built
on
the
easter
apo
transportation
plan
which
looks
to
address
future
existing
and
future
transportation
needs..
We
think
about
this
part
of
town..
It's
an
area.
That's
transforming
very
quickly,,
as
we
know,
as
we
adopted
the
east
boulder
sub
community
plan.,
and
we
see
a
lot
of
land
use
changes
happening
out.
There.
almost
daily.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
and
so
what
we're
doing
in
designing
these
multimodal
improvements
is
designing
improvements
that
work
for
the
people
who
are
there
today,,
who
are
living
and
working
in
the
quarter,
and
those
who
work
living
and
working
there
in
the
future,,
not
just
within
boulder.
but
importantly,
for
those
commuters
who
are
coming
into
town.
J
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
highlights
all
modes
of
travel
in
this
corridor.
and
you
know,
by
doing
this
improving
things
like
air
quality
and
reductions
on
in
our
on
climate
impact..
So
I
am
going
to
stop
talking
now.
and
I'm
going
to
hand
this
over
to
mitch
and
chris,
who
are
going
to
share
the
details
of
this
project,
and
we
really
look
forward,
tab,
to
hearing
your
input,
this
evening..
So
thank
you.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
great
thanks,
jean..
I
appreciate
that.
as
gene
mentioned..
My
name
is
chris
proud..
I
am
a
consultant.,
I'm
working
with
cdot
and
with
our
partner
with
the
city
of
boulder.
on
this
effort..
I
will
just
note
before
I
get
a
dive
into
it.
here.,
I'm
working
on
my
laptop
screen,
tonight..
So
forgive
me,.
I
can't
kind
of
see
everyone
in
the
video,
piece,
etc.
so.
If,
if
I
cut
out
or
there
any
problems,
please,
just
chime
in-
and
let
me
know
one
way
or
another.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
are
the
first
group
that
we're
working
within,,
at
least
through
this
particular
round
of
public
engagement,
that
we're
going
to
be
doing
on
the
effort.
so
in
in
essence.
you're
a
little
bit
of
a
test
for
us
to
see
how
the
questions
and
things
go
tonight,
and
we
may
shift
some
things
up..
What
we,?
As
we
learn
from
from
talking
with
all
of
you.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
but
as
far
as
the
presentation
that
we
have,
mitch
is
going
to
present
a
little
bit
of
context
here
to
make
sure
that
we
give
you
additional
background,-
and
I
know
many
of
you
have
been
involved
in
working
on
this
corridor
for
a
very
long
time..
So
so
many
of
you
are
are
quite
familiar.,
but
just
to
make
sure
that
it's
a
level
playing
field
for
all.
K
Then
I'm
gonna
come
back
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
different
concepts
that
we're
looking
at,
as
far
as
design
is
concerned,
and
we'll
run
through
those
options
with
you
to
make
sure
that
you're
clear
on
those.
and
then
the
final
piece
is
really,.
We
have
a
series
of
questions
that
we'll
go
through
at
the
end
with
you
all
and
seek
to
get
some
feedback.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:.
So
what
we'd
like
to
do?
Because
we
do
have
a
fairly
meaty
presentation
here-
is
to
try
and
get
through
everything
in
the
presentation,
and
then
we'll
deal
with
those
questions
and
any
clarifying
things
at
the
very
end,.
And
we
can,
of
course,
always
slip
back
to
any
slides
that
we
need
to,,
that
you
might
have
questions
on
as
we
go
through
them.
K
L
L
L
Mitch,
bekhit:
and
how?
What
you
see
on
the
screen
is
how
this
has
been
divided
up
into
segments..
We
did
letters
for
segments
a,,
b
and
c,,
which
are
all
in
region
4.,
and
then
the
segments
from
d
to
m
are
the
segments
that
are
in
c
dot
region
one..
So
this
is
a
multi
effort
with
a
lot
of
individuals
involved
with
local
agencies
from
brighton,
adams,
county.
L
Mitch,
bekhit:
so,,
to
give
a
little
bit
of
context
of
where
we
are
in
this
project.,
so
our
project
is
going
from
that
planning
stage
into
that
design,
phage..
So
up
until
now,
we've
had
easter
capital
transportation
plan
that
we're
working
on
and
building
our
efforts.
and
now
our
goal
is
to
take
that
plan
and
kind
of
extend,
it,
and
find
the
feasibility,
and
make
sure
that
we
understand
some
of
the
constraints
and
make
sure
that
we
have
a
working
plan
in
order
to
be
able
to
progress.
Our
design.
L
L
L
L
L
Mitch,
bekhit:,
we
see
that
a
lot
of
the
ridership
actually
comes
from
wafa
yet.,
so
it's
lafayette
and
am.
and
pcm
peak
period
periods.,
and
our
goal
is
to
try
to
figure
out
how
best
to
manage
that
heavily
commuter
traffic
for
the
future..
This
section
is
considered
urban
and
is,
considered
congested
in
its
current
existing.
L
mitch,
bekhit:
thanks,
chris.,
so
our
project
for
the
segment.,
a
kind
of
preliminary
engineering,
is
to
advance
the
preliminary
engineering
design
for
multimodal
concept.
Study.
like,
I
said,
from
the
easter
appeal
transportation
plan
and
to
address.
the
existing
feature.
transportation
needs
local
and
regional
and
to
facilitate
the
safe
travel
and
access.
like
I
said,,
like
walking,
biking
transit
as
well
as
driving
for
goods
and
services.
L
Mitch
bekhit:,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
near
term
improvements
that
we're
doing
so,
specifically
working
with
cdot
design
for
the
transit
incorporation
into
a
resurfacing
project
that
is
scheduled
for
construction
next
year.,
so
2024
and,
like
jean
said,.
There
is
also
the
the
regional
transportation
service,,
the
regional
transit
service
that
is
going
to
be
designed
in
2025
and
operational
in
2026.
L
L
L
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
discussion
of
potential
options.
and
and
what
I
wanna
give
you
a
sense
of
first
before
we
actually
get
into
the
details,
are
just
how
we
created
those
options,
and
how
we
sort
of
compared
and
contrasted
them
against
one
another,
and
really
it's
it's
certainly
not
a
done
deal
at
this
point..
I
mean,
we
are
still
early
in
the
process,,
and
the
whole
idea
is
that
we
are
are
going
out
to
public
engagement
and
talking
with
groups
like
yourselves
to
get
feedback..
That's
gonna
potentially
influence
how
these
designs
are
are
ultimately
put
together.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
but
we've
mentioned
multiple
times..
I
think,
that
we're
building
on
that
past
planning,,
particularly
the
easter
rapahoe
transportation
plan
and
the
vision
and
the
concepts
that
were
included,
there.
there's
a
whole
host
of
other
plans
that
that
have
been
examined
and
and
advanced
along
the
corridor
over
the
years
as
well
that
we're
we're
making
sure
that
we
we
consider
all
of
those
as
we've
been
putting
options.
Together.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
I
think
one
of
the
key
things
is
that
our
job
on
the
design
side
is
to,.
You
know,
take
that
vision
and
figure
out,.
How
do
we
actually
make
that
a
reality?
and-
and
I
think
you
can
understand
that
it.,
it's
not
always
as
simple
as
just,,
you
know,
saying,
okay,.
This
is
exactly
what
we
want
here..
It
works
on
the
ground.,
there's
always
constraints
and
challenges
that
we're
gonna
deal
with.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
but
iii,
think
I
kinda
said
this
before
we're
we're
making
sure
to
refine
the
multi
modal
concepts
that
came
out
of
the
past
plans
to
make
sure
that
they
fit
and
work
on
the
ground..
A
couple
of
other
things
that
we're
working
on
simultaneously
is
to
really
kind
of
understand.
What
are
the
space
needs,
that
we
have
to
incorporate
this?
and
does
it
go
outside
of
either
the
property
that
c.
dot
has,
or
the
potential
for
easements?
Beyond
that.
K
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
but
we're
thinking
about
things
clearly,
like
safety,,
maintenance,,
bike,,
comfort
and
safety,,
pedestrian
comfort
and
safety,
environmental,
the
brt
and
and
the
bus
operations,,
and
how
that
would
work
on
the
corridor..
So
all
of
those
things
have
to
go
into
our
thinking
as
we're
pulling
these
designs.
Together.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
just
to
make
sure
that
the
elements
of
it
are
actually
clear.
and
then
you'll
see
when
we
get
to
some
of
these
others
after
this,,
but
they're,
actually,
all
quite
similar.
they're,
just
slight
variations
in
them
that
I'll
be
pointing
out
to
you..
But
we
wanted
to
take
you
through
each
of
them,
just
to
be,,
you
know,
completely
transparent
here.
as
to
to
what
we're
looking
at
and
what
we're
putting
together.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
50.
fifth.,
it's
it's
it's
sort
of
a
different
setup
from
50
fifth
to
the
east,
and
50
fifth
to
the
west..
So
our
options
actually
reflect
that
here
we
have
sort
of
different
amount
of
space..
We
have
different
lane,
configurations,
and
50.
Fifth
is
somewhat
of
that
dividing
line.,
so
we
elected
to
use
that
and
develop
different
options,,
either
east
or
west
to
50
fifth..
So
there's
a
very
first
one
that
we're
looking
at
is
actually
west
of
50
fifth.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
and
what
you
see
here,,
I'm
just
gonna
kind
of
walk
through..
This
is
clearly
a
cross
section,
and
I
know
you
all
deal
with
this
with
transportation
stuff
all
the
time.
but
it's,
you
know,,
basically
just
like
a
cut..
If
we're
standing
in
the
street
and
looking
at
what
this,
the
elements
that
would
be
included,
here.
and
you
can
see
west
of
50
fifth,.
K
K
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
and
that
would
is
mirrored
on
both
sides,
but
in
essence,
is,
is
very
similar
to
to
what
was
put
forward
in
the
easter
rappah
transportation
plan,,
and
it
really
is
focused
on,.
You
know,,
creating
safe
space
for
all
users,,
whether
that's
the
transit
component,,
the
bike,,
the
pad,
or
even
the
roadway
users,,
and
that
we
have
the
ability
to
do
that.
K
K
K
G
G
G
Tila
duhaime,
tab:,
but
if
we
have
actually
substantive
tila
duhaime,
tab:
feedback,,
what
is
the
timeline
or
process
for
us
doing?
That?,
yeah,
no,.
It's
a
it's
a
good
point.,
so
I
do
have
a
slide
a
little
bit
later,
just
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
the
public
engagement
and
the
cadence
of
that
as
well.
K
So
again,
tonight,
you're
right.
it's
for
for
you..
All
this
is
an
informational
piece,
and
we
wanna
make
sure
you're
fully
up
to
speed
and
understand
what
we're
putting
together.
there,
will
be
actually
questions
at
the
end
of
this.
and
we're
looking
for
that
feedback
from
you
now
as
well,.
Even
though
there's
not
formal
action.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
15%
or
preliminary
design
that
we
do.
so
there'll
be
sort
of
2
pieces.
One
tonight
where
we
could
take
your
feedback.,
then
we
are
going
to
be
opening
to
the
general
public
just
beyond
the
kind
of
one
on
one
that
we're
doing
here.
and
we're
doing
these
one
on
ones,
with
a
variety
of
different,
like
neighborhood
groups
and
advocacy
groups,
etcetera,,
just
trying
to
talk
directly
with
them..
But
then
we
are.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
coming
up
here
in
october.
we're
gonna,
be
opening
an
somewhat
of
an
online
public
engagement.
Where
we'll
have
this
presentation,
with
a
voiceover
associated
with
it,
to
give
people
that
background.
and
then
we
are
gonna,
have
a
poll
with
a
variety
of
different
questions,.
Some
of
them
open
ended
so
that
people
can
kind
of
throw
out
their
whatever
they're
thinking.,
so
there'll
be
opportunity
there
as
well.
K
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
yeah,
chris,.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
I
was
just..
I
was
just
asking
that
very
question
in
a
chat.
to
valerie,,
because
I
actually
and
and
I
would
defer
to
natalie.,
but
I
don't
believe
through
this
process,
given
that
it's
a
c.
dot
led
project
that
we
would
be
asking
for
a
formal
action
from
tab.
but
now,.
If
that's
not
the
case,,
please
let
me
know.
E
E
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
are
not
any
significant
differences
with
this..
The
only
difference
that
you're
seeing
is
the
difference
in
the
the
travel
lanes.
in
this
case,.
Once
we
get
east
of
50
fifth,,
the
number
of
travel
lanes
actually
do
change..
We
have
sort
of
3
in
one
direction
and
2
in
the
other
in
the
eastbound
direction.,
and
really
we're
repurposing
2
of
those
existing
travel
lanes
still
for
the
bad,,
so
that
just
narrows
that
east.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
eastbound
direction
to
one
general
purpose,
travel
lane.,
but
the
remainder
of
these
elements
as
to
how
the
areas
behind
the
curb
are
put
together
are
pretty
much
exactly
the
same.
and
our
key
focus
here,
as
always,
is
on
safety.
but
again,.
We
just
wanna
make
sure
that
we're
being
true
to
exactly
what
the
configuration
is
along.
The
corridor.
G
G
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
yeah,,
I
think
that's
fair.
yes,,
because
you
do
have
some
of
the
bus
lanes
that
exist
as
you
get
closer
to
60.,
third,
and
you've
got
the
wider
area,
and
the
lanes
are
configured
slightly
differently,
so
that
in
in
essence,,
what
we're
doing
is
is
implementing
that
brt,
or
bad,
or
transit
lane.
All
the
way
through
to
28.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
but
it
is
true
that
50
fifth
is
kind
of
a
dividing
line,
and
when
you
get
east
of
that,
it
does
change
in
terms
of
the
number
of
lanes
and
the
amount
of
space
that
we
have
to
work
with.
Basically..
Does
that
help?
no.?
But
my
question
is,?
Isn't
this
kind
of
what
it
looks
like
right,
now,,
east
of
sixty-third?.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
so
let's
move
into
option
number
2,
and
and
what
we're
doing
is
looking
at
these
different
options
to
see
the
on
the
ground
conditions
and
what
the
spaces
that
we
have
available
to
us,
and
what
the
right
configuration
might
be..
So
this
is
actually
a
variation
on
what
we
were
just
looking.
At.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
I
would
say
all
of
the
roadway.
and
the
transit
elements,
basically
remain
the
same..
The
only
difference
that
you
see
here
is
sort
of
that
back
of
curb
piece
again.
and
what
we're
doing
is
actually
reorganizing
it
in
a
in
a
slightly
different
way..
Instead
of
having
that
race
protected
bike,
lane
directly
adjacent
to
the
transit
lane.,
we
actually
have
the
the
amenity
zone
or
the
landscaped
area
there,
and
then
we
have
the
protected
bike
facility,
as
well
as
the.
K
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
if
you
can
imagine
with
these
areas
of
the
bike
and
the
multi
use
path
together
for
as
far
as
clearing
snow
and
ice,,
we're
able
to
do
that
jointly
through
those
2
facilities
being
next
to
one
another.
and
then
also
this
landscape
area
between
the
roadway
and
the
bike
and
ped
facilities.
K
K
K
K
C
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:,
where
the
landscaping
is
gonna
be?,
is
that
gonna
be
waste
as
well?
or
is
it
gonna
be
at
the
level
of
the
cars,,
which
may
be
like
a
silly
question,,
but
it
just
implies
more
protection,,
I
think,
for
the
people
on
the
other
side
of
the
tree.,
certainly.,
yeah.
and
and
no
silly
questions.,
I
mean,
I
understand.,
I
mean,.
We
live
and
breathe
this
stuff,
and
we
think
we
put
it
forward
in
a
way
that
people
can
understand..
But
it's
helpful
to
have
that.
Feedback.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
but
yes,
it's
raised
up
at
curb
level,,
just
like
your
sidewalk
is
today,
or
your.
You
know
your
landscape
area
that
that
abuts,
the
the
roadway.,
so
it's
it's
similar
to
to
that
situation..
So
all
of
this,
at
least
again,
hopefully,
you're,
seeing
my
cursor
here,,
the
landscape,,
the
bike
and
the
pedestrian
facilities
would
all
be
at
the
same
level,
and
that
is,
then
there'd
be
a
curb
here.
That
would
go
down
into
the
gutter
area
that
receives
the
drainage,
and
then
the
roadway
itself
is
slightly
lower
than
everything
else.
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:
and
like
how
many
I
know
that
here
because
of
our
weather.,
it's
challenging
to
upkeep.,
I
mean,
are
you
thinking
of
just
putting
trees
up?
I
mean,.
I
know
these
are
just
details
that
you'll
think
of
later,,
but
that
to
me
this
is
protection
for
cyclists
and
people
that
are
on
the
side..
So
again,,
I
mean,.
If
you
just
have
like
a
little
curve,
and
like
someone's
distracted,,
and
they
can
just
jump
the
curve.
and
you
know,
suddenly
they're
in
the
bike,
lane.
C
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:
curve
chris
proud,
hdr:
in
order
to
make
sure
that
car
stay
where
they're
supposed
to
be.
well,.
This
is
the
bus,
right?.
I
mean,
there's
a
lot
of
buses
that
are
going
to
be
out
there,,
but
it's
not
continuous
traffic,,
as
you
might
have
in
some
of
the
other
lanes.
nonetheless.,
and
you
have
trained
drivers
that
are.
they're
driving
those
buses
as
well,.
I
mean
buses.
C
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
it's
yeah.
chris
proud,
hdr:.
What
we're
looking
at
are
are,
you
know,,
potentially
kind
of
different
types
of
cyclists,,
because
cyclists
frankly,
could
be
on
the
multi
use
path
as
well,
and
they
may
be
people
making
short
trips
within
the
corridor,
and
the
folks
that
are
in
the
actual
bike
facility
or
the
race
protected.
bike.
Lane
may
be
people
commuting
or
going
through
and
trying
to
go.
Faster.
frankly.
K
K
K
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
tia.
chris
proud,
hdr:.
I
think
that
was
from
before.
okay,
yeah,
we're
all
set.
keep
rolling
here,
because
we
do
have
one
option
that
I
wanna
clarify
with
you.
and
there
are.
I
mean,.
I
think
you
can
recognize
that
we
have
some
tight
spots
that
we're
gonna
have
to
deal
with
out
here.
and
one
of
the
key
things,,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
very
beginning,
is
that
our
you
know,?
One
of
our
key
tenants
is
to
make
sure
that
we
are
incorporating
all
of
the
mobility
elements
that
were
identified
within.
K
K
K
K
G
G
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
the
amount
of
people
that
the
the
transit
lane
could
actually
move
through
the
corridor.
and
we're
looking
at
making
sure
that
we
can
accommodate
for
all
of
the
other
uses
in
the
corridor,,
like
I
was
saying,
with
the
protected
bike
lane,
as
well
as
the
multi-use
path.,
so
we're
trying
to
balance
all
of
those
things
out.
As
best
we
possibly
can.
K
K
G
Tila
duhaime:
the
buffer
in
the
middle
of
the
row,,
the
median.
those
are
given
as
constants,,
and
I
think
that
the
fact
that
I'm
looking
right
now,
at,
you
know,
dotted
orange
area
around
our
most
vulnerable
road
users
on
the
eastbound
section
of
traffic
is
telling
me
we're
not
actually
considering.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
well.
chris
proud,
hdr:
ii
understand
the
comment..
There
are
some
technical
challenges.
I
mean,
again,.
If
we
were
to
try
and
utilize
that
space
in
the
center,
for
example,
from
a
design
perspective,.
What
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
that
we're
being
consistent
across
all
of
this
as
well,
and
not
sort
of
shifting
too
much
and
and
changing
that.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
make
sure
that
that
these
elements
within
the
roadway
are
as
consistent
as
they
possibly
can
be
from
a
safety
perspective,
too..
But
I
guess
ii
mean,,
I'm
not
trying
to
go
sort
of
point
for
point
with
you,,
because
ii
don't
disagree
with
your
comment,
and
it
is
really
one
of
the
things
that
we
are
constantly,.
You
know,
struggling
with
and
trying
to
work
with,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
balance
it
out..
But
I
it's
yeah.
iii,
don't
necessarily
disagree
with
your
comment,
yeah,.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
I
think
it's
a
point
well
taken,
and
it's
one
that
we
can
take
back
and
and
really
consider
as
a
project
team
and
try
and
see..
You
know
what
the
opportunities
really
are
there,
because
we
show
you
this
cross
section,,
but
it's
not
as
black
and
white
as
this,
either..
We
have
to
look
at
those
exact
locations
as
to
where
we
might
need
to
use
this
and
try
and
minimize
it
as
well.
no,,
no
question.,
but
when
I,.
G
G
Triny
willerton,
tab:.
So
if
there's,
if,
if
that,
if
that's
a
way
to
summarize
the
input
from
me
in
a
new
event,,
that's
how
I
would
summarize
it.
great!.
Can
I
jump
in
there?
and
that
kind
of
echoes
my
sentiment
as
well,,
and
I
guess
what
we're
trying
to
convey
is
that
if
there's
ever
a
choice
to
eliminate
anything,
we
should
never.
C
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
so
we
are.
gonna
get
to.
oh,,
I'm
sorry.
I've
got
some
actual
questions,
ryan.,
I
mean,.
If
you
want
to
hold
for
a
sec,
and-
and
we
can
get
to
those,
and
we'll
we'll
come
back
as
as
much
as
we
need
to
to
to
talk
about
this..
I'm
not
gonna
cut
anything
off
here.,
but
I
do
have
just
a
couple
of
closeout
things,
just
so
that
we
get
through
the
full
presentation.
K
K
K
To
send
that
to
all
of
you
as
well,,
so
that
you
can,
you
know,
utilize,
it
yourself,,
but
also
send
it
out
to
the
people
that
you're
connected
with
and
the
constituents
that
you
all
represent.
so
we'd
like
to
use
you
to
help
promote
that
and
get
as
much
feedback
as
we
possibly
can.
As
we
go
forward.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
I
mean,
we're
working
on
working
through
this
into
a
little
bit
into
next
year.,
but
I
we
really
need
to
get
this
feedback
here
in
october
to
understand
and
get
the
pulse
of
what
stakeholders
are
thinking,
and
how
that
might
influence
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing,.
But
it
could
push
us
a
little
bit
further
into
2024,.
I
think,,
as
we
start
to
refine
this
schedule..
We
are,
in
addition
to
just
doing
the.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
and
then,
finally,.
We
have
been
doing
some
environmental
scan
on
the
corridor,
as
well
to
try
and
prepare
ourselves
for
the
next
phase,
and
the
goal
here
really
is
going
to
be..
How
do
we
set
ourselves
up
as
best
possible
for
future
funding,?
Because
our
goal
is
to
to
help
implement
this
and
and
get
it
really
moving
forward?
Each
time.
K
K
K
A
A
A
G
G
G
A
A
I
I
I
K
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
vision
that
was
created
in
the
east
to
wrap
a
whole
plan.
and
now
again,
we're
trying
to
make
them
fit
and
work.,
and
there
are
some
variations
on
that.
and
there
are
different
contexts
that
we
might
use
these
in
for
example,,
where
you
know,
you
have,,
like
large,
mature
trees
along
the
corridor,
for
example,.
We
might
use
some
of
these
to
try
and
avoid
taking
those
trees,
out,
of
course,,
etc.
so
yeah..
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
encroaching
on
the
physical
ryan,
schuchard,
tab:
safety
of
our
people
outside
of
vehicles..
Are
there
any
cases
in
which
city
code
that
you
can
obviously
name
is,
is
standing
in
the
way
of
of
better
technical
solutions.
that
would
be,
you
know,,
fuller
and
more
accessible.?
I
it
might
be
too
hard,.
I
mean,.
I
don't
want
to
be
on
the
spot.,
so
maybe
this
wasn't
studied.,
but
I'm
just
sort
of
curious,.
If
there's
any
anything
obvious
is
standing
out
where
we're
like,.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
we've
been
working.,
I'm
gonna
throw
this
to
the
city
to
to
really
speak
about
that.
and
and
gene,.
You
might
want
to
call
on
either
yourself
or
others,,
but
I
mean,
we
have
been
developing
as
part
of
our
design,
design
standards.,
and
what
that
requires
is
that
we
go
through
the
city
standards,,
the
state
standards,
you
know,
national
best
practice.
All
of
these
things
to
try
and
understand.
how
would
we,
or
should
we
design
this?
and
to
make
sure
that
we're
being.
K
K
K
M
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:
requirements
and
laws
at
a
higher
level,
and
doesn't
get
into
the
particulars
of
design
standards,
and
the
document
and
the
city
that
pertains
to
that
type
of
regulatory
content
would
be
the
design
and
construction
standards
which
we've
presented
to
you
with
various
updates
over
the
years..
And
so
that
would
be
the
the
city
reference
that
we
would
turn
to
for
a
question
on
how
to
approach.
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:,
the
design
here
of
co.
7
in
our
arapahoe.
but,
as
chris,
has
also
noted,,
because
this
is
a
c
dot
facility,.
We
also
have
to
give
consideration
to
the
set
of
standards
that
the
state,
has,
and
their
standard
is
called
the
m.
and
s.
standards.,
and
so
that's
also
something
that
has
to
be
considered
as
this
design
continues
to
evolve.
I
I
A
G
A
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
no
intersections
are
definitely
part
of
this..
Now
there
are
some
specific
intersections
along
the
quarter
that
the
city
can
probably
speak
to
that
are
going
to
be
handled
slightly
differently,,
but
the
majority
of
intersections
along
the
corridor
are
part
of
our
effort
of
design.
and
what
we're
looking
at
are
you
know.
K
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
showing,-
all
of
you
are
these
typical
cross
sections..
So
we
kind
of
start
here.
On,
you
know,.
Are
these
cross
sections
generally
acceptable??
Do
they
generally
work??
What
are
the
tweaks?
We
need
to
make
to
them?
and
then,.
Once
we
have
some
buy
off
on
that,,
we
then
move
to
that
actual
layout
design
in
a
plan
view
like
a
map,
basically.,
and
we
start
to
lay
out
all
of
that,,
all
of
those
intersections,
all
of
those
crossings,
etc.,
to
make
sure
that
they
are
safe,
and
they
are
visible
so
that.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
cyclists
can
see
cars
coming
through
and
and
people
driving
can
see
the
cyclists
coming,
through,,
etc.
so.
We
have
to
think
about
all
of
those
details,,
but
the
intersections
are
included
in
here.
other
than
some
of
the
other
major
intersections
that
could
be
funded
and
designed
separately
from
ours.
G
G
G
Chris
proud,
hdr:
in
terms
of
how
the
city
is
regulating
this
kind
of
stuff,,
certainly,
and
I'll,
make
a
few
comments.
and
then
again,
gina,
I'll,
put
you
on
the
deck
also,,
because
I'm
you
probably
will
need
to
follow
up
from
the
city's
perspective
on
this,,
because
a
again,
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
the
city
here,,
but.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
as
far
as
coordination,,
and
I
think
it's
called
weather
vane.
now
I
can't
remember
the
name
of
the
development,
but
ii
think
so
we
have
connected
with
them.
Directly,
and
they've
gone
through
a
pretty
extensive
because
they're,
actually
in
the
process.,
they're
designing,
and
they're
they're,
getting
approvals.
and
and
ii
believe.
Maybe
they
have
approvals
at
this
point.,
but.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
as
it
stands,
today,
they've
been
going
through
a
process
of
getting
their
approvals.,
so
we
are
kind
of
responding
to
the
things
that
have
already
been
in
approved
for
them,,
which
includes
bike
and
pedestrian
facilities,
and
was
taking
into
account
many
of
these
things,,
so
their
their
design
may
not
look
exactly
like
the
cross
sections
that
I'm
showing
you.,
but
we
have
been
laying
in
what's
been
approved
for
their
site
as
sort
of
the
condition
that
might
happen
in
front
of
that.
Particular
development.-.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
in
the
future.
once
our
design
is
complete.,
then
that
actually
continues
to
give
the
city
more
ability
to
work
with
future
developers
that
come
in
to
make
sure
that
whatever
design
they
are
doing
on
the
frontage
of
their
new
development
meets
the
design
that
we
expect
and
that
we've
laid
out..
So
then
they'll
start
to
respond
to
us
once
we're
done.
K
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
yeah,,
no,
chris,.
I
think
you
answered
that
really
well,
and
you
know,
just
specifically,,
tila
and
and
all
the
tab
members..
You
know
this
is
such
an
important
step
in
the
process
for
us,
because,.
You
know,
one
of
the
things
that
we,
the
city,
needs
to
have
in
place
to
require
things
like
these.,
specific
infrastructure,
pieces,
or
even
just
reservation
of
right
of
way
or
easements..
J
J
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
so
for
the
very
first
one,
you
know,,
considering
the
existing
conditions,,
I
mean,.
You
know
that
we
have
some
constraints
along
the
corridor.
I,
you
know,.
Do
you
generally
agree
with
the
3
typical
design,
cross-sections
that
we've
put
forward?,
and
maybe
that
is
one
that
you
know
folks
can
just
kind
of
speak
to,
or
more
straw,
poll.
however,.
You
want
to
do
it.,
it's
kind
of
up
to
you
for
2
and
3..
I
do
have
some
graphics
that
we
can
flip
to
to
help.
You
understand
those
a
little
better,
too..
So.
A
A
G
A
A
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
you
know,,
which
might
best
achieve
the
safety
and
comfort
goals,
and
really
the
the
big
difference.
and,
and
we
can
flip
back
and
forth
to
these,.
If
we
need
to,,
is
that
location
of
the
the
landscape
amenities
zone
in
essence.
is
either
separating
and
having
the
multi
use
path,
separated
from
the
race
protected
bike
lane
and
the
race
protected
bike
lane
adjacent
to
the
the
transit
lane..
So
to
maybe
help.
with
that,
a
little
bit.
K
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
which
allows
bikes
as
well,
but
probably
at
a
little
bit
slower
pace,.
We
would
expect,
because
it's
probably
a
different
kind
of
user.,
so
I
guess
I
we're
curious..
Do
you
think
either
of
these
present
something
that
might
feel
either
more
comfortable
or
safe?
In
your
opinion,
at
least?.
G
G
G
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:
can
I
chime
in?,
I
triny
willerton,
tab:.
I
favor
option
one
because
of
multiple
reasons.
one
has
to
do
with
the
fact
that
everything's
race..
So
I
think
that
that
if
for
whatever
reason,
a
car
happens
to
veer
into
the
transit
lane
and
then
eventually
onto
the
path,,
I
think
there's
there's
a
a
physical
barrier,
right?
and
I
do
believe
that
with.
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:,
you
were
referring
to
and
eat
bikes..
I
think
that
it's
very
smart
to
separate,
you
know,
pedestrians
and
cyclists..
I
think
the
dream
is
to
have
each.,
so
each
of
us
has
a
way
to
get
there
safely.
and
also
I
don't
know
how
much
of
this,
the
actual
greenery
that
would
be
dividing,.
You
know,
on
option.
2.
C
C
K
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
when
we
think
about
a
buffer
between
these,,
it
seems,,
at
least
in
our
opinion,,
as
we've
been
talking
about
it
as
a
project
team,
that
option
2,
and
having
that
actual,.
You
know,
8
foot
of
space
that
physically
separates
between
the
the
lane
of
travel
or
the
transit
lane
here,
and
these
facilities
is
really
acting
as
that
buffer,
where
this
ii
guess
I.
K
Triny
willerton,
tab:
and
that,
but
that
would
be
your
preference.-
is
that
fair?,
just
because
they're
kind
of
a
different
kind
of
user.
is
that
kind
of
a
logic
there?,
yes
and
no,,
because
I
feel
that
option.
one
would
actually
have
a
buffer
like
a
physical,,
not
just
up
the
curb,,
but
because
that's
what
I
understood
right?
I
mean,
that
would
be
a
protected
bike.
Lane.
or.
C
Chris
proud,
hdr:
am
I
just
hallucinating
that?
no,
no,,
no,
yeah,.
I
think
I
might
not
have
explained
it
completely
clearly.,
so
my
apologies.,
but
so
the
raised
protected
bike
lane,,
like
the
difference
that
we're
talking
about
when
we
say
raise
protected
bike.
Lane
is
actually
probably
the
level
of
both
option.
One
and
option
2
are
basically
the
same.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
but
the
when
we
say,
raise
protected
bike
lane,,
it's
the
difference
between
like
an
on
street,
painted
bike,
lane,
or
one.
That's
actually
part
of
the
asphalt.
That's
out,,
you
know.
part
of
the
asphalt
edits
out
here
in
the
lane
near
the
lane
of
travel
versus
one,
that's
actually
at
the
same
level
as
a
sidewalk..
So
that's
really
the
difference
between
a
raised,
protected
bike
lane
and
and
just
a
standard
bike
lane
that's
painted
in..
Does
that
make
sense?.
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:
yeah.,
so
then
I'm
with
tila.,
then
I
would
move
the
cyclists
as
far
as
possible
from
any
car
interaction,,
and
I
know
we
have
the
transit
lane
there.,
but
I'm
just
thinking
of
worst
case
scenario.
and
yeah,.
I
think
it's
less
likely
for
pedestrians
and
cyclists
to
have
you
know
any
sort
of
fatal,
interaction.,
then?.
C
A
I
A
A
A
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
that
is
helpful.
chris
proud,
hdr:.
So
let's
move
on
to
number
3,
and
I
think
it'll
build
on
what
we
were
just
talking:
about,
actually.,
but
which
configuration
where
we're
talking
about
the
adjacent
bike
and
pedestrian
facilities..
Should
it
be,
you
know,,
physic?,
marked
or
demarc
have
a
demarcation
in
some
way
or
not,,
and
I'm
using
these
images,
and
they're,
not
perfect.,
so
forgive
me.,
but
the.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
it
gives
you
a
sense
of
this-
is
a
raised
on
the
the
left
hand,
side.
here..
This
is
a
raised,
protected
bike
lane,
and
then
with
an
adjacent
sidewalk,,
and
you
just
get
the
point
that
you
know
there's
a
space,
that's
clearly
identified
for
bikes.
and
there's
a
space
adjacent
to
it.
That's
clearly
identified
for
multi
use,
paths,
sidewalk,,
etc.?.
K
C
C
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
I
appreciate
that.
and
the
look
of
this.
yeah,.
Please
don't
assume
that
this
is
exactly
how
we
would
necessarily
do
it..
It
is
something
that
would
need
to
follow
the
the
city
standards,
and
would
be
determined
at
the
time.
Of,
you
know,
kind
of
final
design
and
and
field
construction..
So,
but
we
were
hoping
to
at
least
get
the
point
across
with
the
image.
G
G
G
G
G
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
in
this
image.,
so
what
we
were
trying
to
show
you
were
was
option
2.
and
you
know,.
How
would
you
set
up
option?
2.?
Would
all
of
this
just
be
gray,
and
everyone
could
sort
of
be
in
exactly
or
do
you??
Do
you
physically
separate
up.
now,?
This
gray
part
that's
over
here,,
even
though
it's
not
physically
marked
as
a
bike
space.,
it
is
a
multi
use
path
or
a
bikeable
sidewalk
in
boulder.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
the
both
of
those
spaces,
actually
allow
for
bikes
to
use
them.,
and
you
were
kind
of
spot
on..
I
mean
the
gray
areas
likely
for
those
people
either
doing
short
trips
within
the
corridor,
or
maybe
those
less
confident,
cyclists
that
would
wanna
go
slower.,
yeah.
and
then
the
others
that
are
commuters,
or
more
confident,
or
whatever
would
be
in
that
outer,,
faster
lane,,
etc..
So
it's
exactly
the
scenario
that.
K
G
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:-
I
am
with
you
like,
if
that
that
should
be
all
right.,
but
unfortunately
it's
gonna
take
time
to
get
there.
and
in
the
meantime,.
If
we're
gonna
build
something,,
we
should
be
thinking
long,
term.
and
ii
mean
a
a
hundred
percent..
I
think
that
there
are
people
that
have
different
abilities,
that
all
have
to
share
the
same
space.
C
C
G
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
ii
would
say
that
we'll
keep
moving
forward.
With,
you
know,
pushing
on
this
particular
subject
and
also
taking
into
account
the
the
feedback
that
we
receive
here,
and
see
how
we
can
address..
You
know
the
concerns
that
are
here..
You
know,,
we
are
working
within
a
constrained
environment.
K
K
K
C
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
thanks.
ii
had
a
little
bit
of
a
different
take
on
the
feedback..
I
agree
with
everything,
tila
said.,
but
ii.
Guess
I
when
chris
is
asking
the
question
I
was
thinking
of,.
The
question
was
sort
of
like
imagining
the
difference
between,
like
on
boulder
creek
path,,
where
I
think
it's
about
around
thirteenth,
we're
east
of
thirteenth.
I
I
K
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
exactly.
yeah,,
yeah,,
exactly.,
so,
so,.
Looking
at
that
option,
too,,
it's
like,.
How
would
you
actually
physically
denote
the
different
spaces?
or
would
you
just
have
them,
be
one
large
space,
and
allow
individuals
to
make
the
choice?
you
know
as
to
how
they
act
in
that
area..
Then
it
sounds
like
the
example
I'm
I'm
giving,.
I
think,
is
the
example.
I,,
although
maybe
on
on
boulder
creek,
when
it
gets
west.
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
more,,
either
more
bike
or
more
pedestrian,.
I
don't
know.
like
like
foothill
parkway
or
goose
creek,,
it's
more
mixed..
I
think
it
works
fine,.
So
I
don't
know..
It
seems
like
there
to
me
that
this
question
of
like,,
what's
the
density
or
the
throughput
happening?
cause
less
throughput,,
less
density
would
suggest
a
nick.
space
is
better
to
me,,
but
ii,
don't
feel
strongly
about
it,,
but
I
just
thought
it
after
that.
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
hello!
follow
up
on
on
ryan's
comments.
I?
yeah,.
I
definitely
like
the
defined
space..
I
think
ii
also
thought
of
boulder
creek
path,
and
just
how
chaotic
it
is,
and
it's
as
beautiful
as
it
is,
is
kind
of
a
frustrating
experience
for
people
walking
and
biking
because
they're
fighting
for
space,
because
it's
so
popular..
So
it's
a
good
problem
to
have.
but
yeah,.
I
just
think
you
separate
by
speed
and
bikes,
go
faster.
so
and
really
also,
just
for
the
sake.
Of.
A
A
A
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
the
final
one.,
it's
chris
proud,
hdr:,
pretty
open,
ended,
here,
and,
and
that
was
intentional
to
allow
folks
to,
you
know,
kind
of
make
sure
that
they're
getting
out
their
particular
thoughts.,
but
for
this
particular
phase
of
work,
you
know
we
are
at
this
15%
design.,
you
know.,
so
we're
not
in
final
design.
we're
not
in
construction
yet..
So
just
keeping
in
mind
where
we're
at
you
know.
are
there
other
design
considerations
that
that
we
should
be
making,
or
things
that
you
all
can
think
of,
that
we
should
put
in
the
mix.
C
C
C
C
C
Triny
willerton,
tab:,
is,
and
still
separated
from
pedestrians,,
because
becky
raises
a
really
really
good
good
point..
I
mean
now
with
scooters,
and
iii
do.
when
I'm
writing,,
I
do
feel,
and
I
am.
I
try
to
be
as
kind
and
as
you
know,.
I
approach
people
slowly.,
but
I
see
that
not
everybody
does,,
you
know.,
so
so.
Yeah.
I
I
Chris
proud,
hdr::
do
you
want
feedback
on
that,
too?
or
there
was
as
it
stands
right
now,
I
mean,
as
the
intersections
are
concerned.,
it's
a
a
kind
of
mentioned
this
a
little
bit
earlier,,
but
that
we
are
going
to
be
looking
at
intersections
right,
now.
we're
at
this
sort
of
cross,
section
level..
If
we
can
get
general
buy
off
on..
These
are
the
the
basic
cross
sections
that
we
want
to
try
and
apply.
of
course,.
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:,
and
also
really
thinking
about
safety
and
particularly
visuals
at
crossings,
where,,
you
know,,
you
have
private
access,
points,
or
or
you
know,
non
signalized
intersections.
for
example,.
We're
gonna,
be
thinking
we're
thinking
about
that
as
well.,
but
that
is
sort
of
the
next
phase
that
we
move
into.
as
we
go
into
design,,
we'll
start
to
take
those
cross
sections
and
then
lay
them
out
in
that
plan
view
in
the
actual
design,
and
be
able
to
to
demonstrate
exactly
how
those
protected
intersections
would
work.
K
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
great?
okay,
thanks
for
that.
yeah.,
I'm
I
feel
I
feel
happy,
for
now.
I
just
will
associate
my
comments
with
with
tila.
she's
been
very
eloquent.
and
then,
when
it
comes
to
intersections,,
yeah,
that'll
be.
that'll
be
good
to
talk.
About.
yeah,,
just
like
a
lot
with
that..
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
On.
A
A
A
K
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
repurposing.
some
existing
travel
lanes
into
the
transit
lanes.
and
I
think
that
helps
some,,
because
those
transit
lanes
are
not
gonna
have
consistent
traffic
throughout..
Now
those
transit
lanes
can
also
be
utilized
for
turning
traffic
into
private
businesses
and
things
like
that.
they're,
not
completely
separated,,
but
they
are
primarily
for
the
the
buses.
K
Chris
proud,
hdr:
and
we
are
trying
to
think
about
the
the
again,,
the
protected
intersections,,
particularly
for
the
bike
and
the
pedestrian
connections
across..
So
it's
a
really
good
point.
and
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
that
in
more
detail
as
we
start
to
actually
lay
this
out..
But
it's
a
it's
definitely
helpful.
A
A
A
E
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:,
when
we
stopped
on
cedar
and
around
fifteenth
street
to
take
a
look
at
the
sidewalk
repairs
that
took
place
as
part
of
the
pavement
management.
Program,,
that
we
had
some
conversation
about
the
right
way
to
implement
sidewalk,
and,
in
particular,
the
curb
type
adjacent
to
sidewalk
as
to
whether
they
should
be.
M
Gerrit
slatter,,
cob:,
mountable
or
vertical
curve
treatments
with
the
issue
being
that
some
vehicles
are
inclined
to
to
not
understand
the
barrier
between
a
mountable
curve
and
thinking
that
they
should
put
their
wheels
up
on
the
sidewalk,,
where
a
vertical
curve
prevents
that
behavior
from
happening,
and
keeps
the
vehicles
off
the
sidewalk..
So.
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:
ii
also
thought
it
might
be
helpful
for
you
to
understand
that
if
I
didn't
emphasize
this
on
the
tour
that
it
would
be
helpful
to
understand.,
there
are
2
mean
2
means
by
which
we
repair
sidewalks
in
a
major
way..
One
is
the
sidewalk
repair
program
and
the
other
is
through
the
pavement
management.
Program,
where,.
When
we
find
sidewalk
adjacent
the
streets
that
we're
going
to
be
repaving,,
we
go
in
and
upgrade
curb
ramps
to
bring
them
into
compliance
with
ada
standards,
and
also.
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:,
so
having
consulted
the
city
staff
and
the
construction
crews
that
we
typically
contract
with.,
because
we
don't
still
perform
this
work.,
we
don't
have
the
resources
or
the
in
house
expertise
to
do
this
type
of
work..
So
we
rely
exclusively
on
our
external
contractor
partnerships,
and.
M
M
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:
and
the
issue
you
might
recall
from
our
bike
tour
is
that
many
of
the
sidewalk
repairs
are
replacing
just
a
single
section,
or
a
or
single
slab
or
stone,,
which
might
vary
in
length
from
6
feet
to
8.
Feet.,
sometimes
you'll
see
a
a
couple
of
sections
adjacent
to
one
another.,
and
so
what
we
don't
want
is
to
have
this
continuous,
back
and
forth
to
vertical
treatment
along
a
single
block.
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:,
and
also
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
our
contractors
to
to
be
able
to
build,,
and
so
with
an
average
block
length
in
the
city,
being
between
400
feet
to
600
feet.
We
arrived
at
for
next
year's
program..
We
would
like
to
work
with
a
number
of
100
feet.
when
we
have
a
replacement
section
longer
than
a
hundred
feet,
that
we
will.
transition
to
a
vertical
curve.
section.
M
Gerrit
slatter,
cob:
a
a
in
those
areas
even
where
there
are
driveways
present
that
will
transition
back.,
but
work
to
try
to
create
that
better
delineation
between
the
the
vehicle
parking
space
and
the
pedestrian
walking
space..
So
that's
the
the
update
on
what
our
next
steps
are.
and
we'll
be
eager
to
see
how
it
plays
out
on
the
construction
side
and
see
what
your
feedback
is
as
we
work
to
implement
that
into
the
program.
A
E
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
yeah,
natalie,
I'll,
go
ahead
and
cover
this
one.
hi,
yeah,,
so
I'll
keep
it
brief.
thanks..
So
just
introducing
a
a
planning
project
that
is
just
getting
underway
and
is
being
sponsored
by
the
denver
regional
council
of
governments
or
dr.
cog..
They
are
funding
a
couple
of
co.
pilot.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:,
and
so
the
purpose
of
the
south
boulder
road
corridor
plan
is
to
develop
a
vision
for,
for
that
quarter,
a
multimodal
vision..
You
know
much
in
the
way
that
we
started
with
either
the
easter
rapaho
plan,
or
the
1
19
corridor.
South
boulder
road
is
one
of
the
north
west
area.
mobility
study
corridor..
So
it
is
a
nam's
quarter.
and
it's
actually
the
last
of
the
nams
quarters.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
for
us
to
begin
thinking
about
how
to
identify
improvements,
to
enhance
multimodal
connectivity
between
the
community..
So
this
is
really
the
start
of
developing
that
vision
for
the
corridor,
and
dr.
cog
is
putting
together
a
steering
committee.
and
the
role
of
that
steering
committee
will
be
to
recommend
ideas,,
develop
partnerships,,
goals,,
vet,
recommendations,
and
act
as
ambassador.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
for
the
project
for
respective
communities
and
interest
groups.,
and
so
we
have
put
forward
a
number
of
organizations
that
we
think
would
be
appropriate
for
that.
Steering
committee,
such
as
members
of
community
cycles
center
for
people
with
disabilities.
see
you,
bbsd,,
and
we
also
think
that
having
a
member
of
tab
on
the
steering
committee
would
be
a
really
great.
J
Jean
sanson,
cob:
addition
to
the
steering
committee,,
and
so
the
commitment
would
be
to
attend
between
4
and
6
meetings
over
the
course
of
the
next
year.
they're,
hoping
to
schedule
their
first
meeting
in
early
october,
and
we're
putting
that
to
tab
this
evening.
To
ask
if
one
of
you
might
be
interested
in
serving
on
that
steering.
Committee.
I
J
J
A
J
E
E
E
E
E
E
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
there
was
a
need
for
us
to
look
at
trans
additional
transportation
funding
to
meet
these
needs.
originally,.
We
thought
that
they
would
kind
of
be
able
to
live
within
the
community,
culture,
resilience
and
safety
fund
allocation.
and
just
as
the
city
kind
of
took
a
look
at
citywide
needs,.
It
was
recognized
that
there
was
much
more
need
than
the
fund.
The
ccrs
fund
had
available.
E
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:,
and
so
we
were
able
to
kind
of
take
a
more
holistic
look
at
what
the
transportation
fund
could
potentially
take
on
from
these
needs..
And
that's
where
the
addition
of
the
payment
management
program,
additional
funding
around
just
being
able
to
bolster
our
payment
management
program.
That
was
added
in.
and
then
the
violet
avenue
bridge
was
added
in
as
well.
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E
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
there
will
natalie
stiffler,
cob:,
potentially
be
a
more
significantly
need
in
those
out
years,
around
violet
avenue,
bridge.,
assuming
we
can't
find
any
other
funding
sources.
City
wide,.
We
will
be
looking
for
the
transportation
fund
to
help
fund
that
project.
and
garrett
slater
is
also,
of
course,
here
this
evening..
So
if
there's
questions
about
those
projects,,
he
can
help
answer
those
questions,
too.,
but
I
think
that
about
some
set
up.
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E
E
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:,
but
assuming
we
can't
find
any
other
funding
sources,
city
wide.,
we
will
be
looking
to
the
transportation
fund..
I
think
it's
likely
that
transportation
fund
is
probably
going
to
need
to
take
care
of
a
big
piece
of
that
in
the
out
years
around
construction.,
but
we
may
have
some
other
potential
funding
partners
even
within
the
city..
That
could
help
us
out
with
that.
E
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
thanks,,
natalie.
becky..
I
don't
know
if
you
were
doing
comments
or
questions
on
this
one?
or
may.
May
I
offer?
yeah,
yeah,
go
ahead.
okay.
mainly.,
I'm
talking
to
mark,
because,
mark,,
it's
good
to
have
you
here
and
just
to
reiterate
something
I
said:
previously.
we
looked
at
last,,
which
was.
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I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:,
we
are
nic,
cost
negative..
If
we
can
give,,
if
we
can
create
a
transportation
system,
where
we
let
people
escape
car,
dependence,
and
and
they
can
walk
and
bike
freely,
and
they
have
transit
that
comes
frequently
so
that
they
don't
have
to,.
You
know,
do
the
other
stuff,
and
we
make
land
use
work
well
to
enable
all
that
we
save
money..
It's
it's
it's
it's
a
positive..
It's
a
positive
investment.
and.
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:,
I
just
think,,
you
know,
we're
in
a
climate
crisis.
you
look
at
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change
and
what
they
say
about
cost
measures
and
and
transit,
and
but
and
biking,
is
one
of
the
few
cost
measures
of
all.
That's
like.,
that's
negative.!
If,
if
you
do
right,
nothing,,
it's
easy.
but
like
it's,,
it's
it's
a
question
of
financing
is
is
is
what
we
need
to
be
figuring,
out.
and
so.
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:,
not
an
easy
thing
to
just
like
take
take
forward.,
but
I
would
just
would
love
to
see
when
we
go
to
council
with
this
like.
oh,.
We
don't
have
enough
money
for
transportation
that
we're
really.
we're
really
talking
about
this..
If
you
need
a
guest
speaker,,
I'm
sure
somebody
from
tala
volunteer
to
come.
talk
about
it.,
so
in
any
case,.
Thanks
for
your
work.-
and
I
know
this
isn't.-
this
is
an
easy
stuff.,
so
appreciate,
it.
N
N
Mark
woulf:
something
you're
pointing
out
with
mark
woulf:
pulling
in
data
to
support
our
overall
goals
and
objectives.
right?.
Where
are
we
doing
well??
Where
do
we
need
to
do
better?
and
and
we're
kind
of
in
the
middle
of
that
process,
from
a
budgeting
perspective,
moving
towards
an
outcome
based
approach.,
so.
N
Mark
woulf:
granted,
we're
early
in
that.,
but
I,
but
I
hear
you
in
in
that.,
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
able
to
measure
the
impact
of
what
we're
doing
from
an
investment
standpoint.
and
one
of
those
in
particular,
and
and
definitely
interested
in
in
this
metric.
and
what?.
Where
are
we
recovering
cause?
we're
potentially
benefits
to
the
investments
where
we're.
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A
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
becky,
can,
I
just
add
one
thing
that
I
hesitate
to
try:
cause.
tila
that
was,.
That
was
very
well
said,
and
I
agree
with
it..
I
just
wanted
to
to
track
to
the
budget
discussion
and
think,
you
know,.
This
is
when
I
hear
you
talk
like
I,.
What
I
think
about
is
like,.
This
is
less
about
a
transportation
problem.,
and
this
is
about
a
problem
for
the
whole
city.
I
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
and
this
is,
of
course,
one
of
these
things
that
that
is,
people
have
learned
to
just
not
see
it,,
because
it's
a
steady
drip
that
just
keeps
happening.
and
you
know,.
We
we're
we're
more
interested
in
unusual
deaths.,
so
I
think
this
is,.
This
is
a
call
apart
for
to
the
budget,
office,
and
and
thinking
about
how
how
we
present
overall
the
data
of
like,.
What
are
we
getting
for
the
things
we're
spending?
we're
getting
a
lot
of
deaths,
and
they
do
come
from,.
You
know,
some
some
places.,
so.
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C
Triny
willerton,
tab:
place
that
maybe
I'm
very
romantic
about
it.,
but
but
I
do
see
that
there
are
things
being
done
at
a
federal
level,
and
it's
starting
to
like
trickle
down,
and
those
that
funding
is
starting
to
become
available..
I
think
this
is
the
second
year
for
that.
grant
that
natalie
was
speaking
to,,
which
is
the
safe
streets
for
all.,
and
you
know
the
national
roadway
safety
strategy
was
announced
last
year,
and
with
it
came
5
billion
additional
dollars.
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E
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
okay,.
We
do
have
just
a
actually
very
brief
update..
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
all
had
a
chance
to
provide
feedback
through
the
survey
from
hrq.
around
board
and
commission
evaluation,
the
program
evaluation,
that
council?
it's
really
a
council-led
initiative.
obviously,.
We
have
consultants
working
on
it.
hopefully,.
You
all
got
that
message
and
had
a
chance
to.
E
E
E
C
E
Natalie
stiffler,
cob:
okay.
and
then
just
one
final
thing
to
note
and
acknowledge
we
did.
See.
staff
received
a
message
from
community
cycles
just
shortly
before
this
meeting
about
grand
view.,
we
have
not
had
time
to
really
kind
of
fully
dive
into
what
was
addressed
in
there.
but
we'll
be
following
up
and
probably
doing
a
field
assessment
or
something
to
kind
of
see.
What's
going,
on.
and
we'd
be
happy
to
kind
of
report
back
when
we.
E
I
I
I
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
being
able
to
do
more.,
ryan,
schuchard,,
tab:
on,
on
parking
and
standing
in
the
way
of
us
being
able
to
do
more
on
our
transportation
goals.
We
care
about..
So
I
sent
a
draft
email
or
sorry
a
draft
of
the
memo
today
that
you
that
you
all
have
that
we
could
look
at
in
a
moment.
if,
if
that
makes
sense.,
but
before
I
do
that
I'll
just
say
that
ii
think
the
the
process
is,
is
such
that
I.
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
has
the
minutes
from
july
on
their
agenda,
and
I
don't
know
the
exact
which
week
it's
coming,
which
week
it'll
be.,
but
I
know
that
the
june
minutes
tab
just
went
to
council
last
week,,
so
it
is
presumably
within
the
next
few
weeks..
I
know
there's
other
things
coming
with
parking
to
to.
Council.-.
I
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:,
so
I
guess
the
other,
maybe
sort
of
like
sub,
like
1
one
b
on
this
is,.
I
know
there's
some
other
parking
things.
We're
talking:
about,
too,,
that
becky's
gonna
present.,
so
iii
think
this
is
the
right
way
to
go,
and
just
to
keep
it
kinda
attached
to
the
minutes.
and
not
try
to
get
to.
I
I
I
E
E
E
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I
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Ryan
schuchard,
tab:
yeah.,
tila,
duhaime:
okay?,
so
because
it
has
extensive
reference
to
the
july
10
meeting
that
I
was
not
at..
I
don't
think
that
I
can
sign
on
to
it,
and
I'm
not
sure
how
that
matters..
It's
not
that
I
disagree
with
anything
that
I've
read
here..
It's
just
that.
I
was
not
part
of
that.
Discussion.
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I
I
I
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A
Becky
davies,
tab:
main
points
of
the
ask
effectively
for
council
for
their
work
plan
for
next
year.,
and
I
just
wanted
to
get
a
make
sure
everyone
was
okay
with
that?
ask,,
as
I
had
outlined
it.
before
I
go
to
other
boards
and
ask
them
to
endorse
that
ask.,
so
I'll,
just
name
those
3
components,
here.
one.,
so
remember,.
This
is
a.
This
is
ultimately
a
request
to
counsel
current,
and
but
really
for
the
next
council,.
So
that
includes
people
who
will
be
elected
in
the
coming
election.
A
A
Becky
davies,
tab:
support
our
parking,
management.
and
overall
goals.,
so
those
are
kind
of
the
3
pieces..
I'm
trying
to
keep
it
simple,,
since
they
will
be
talking
to
people
of
various
other
boards
that
don't
necessarily
spend
as
much
time
on
parking
in
their
work..
But
those
are
sort
of
the
3
pieces,
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
tab.
A
Becky
davies,
tab:,
you
know,,
doesn't
have
any
objections
to
them
before
I
ask
others
to
support
them.,
so
you
can
give
me
feedback
here,
or
you
can
give
me
feedback
via
email.,
but
I
do
need
to
kind
of
get
rolling
on
talking
to
other
boards,.
So
please,
let
me
know
within
a
day
or
2.
if
you,
if
you
want.
A
Becky
davies,
tab:,
housing,,
board,,
environmental
board
and
water
resources,
board,
because
I
think
they're
sort
of
the
most
direct
connection
to
off
street
parking.
and
then
some
of
the
other
boards
might
be
related,
but
maybe
are
a
little
more
secondary
in
in
my
mind..
But
if
you
have
feelings
otherwise,,
let
me
know,
and
by.
A
Becky
davies,
tab:,
by
secondary
I
mean,,
I
will
invest
less
of
my
time
in
reaching
out
to
them.,
maybe
send
an
email,
but
not,
you
know.
try
to
do
as
much
direct
engagement
versus
those
main
boards.
I
mentioned,
where
I'll
I'll
really
try
to
talk
to
to
the
members,
all
the
members
of
the
boards..
So
that's
my
thinking,
again,
open
to
feedback.
feel
free
to
email,
me,
or
if
you
have
a
point
of
a
conversation
about
it,.
Let
me
know.,
but
I
am
gonna
start
doing
that.-
that
outreach
throughout
the
course
of
the
coming
month.
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I
I
I
I
I
Ryan
schuchard,
tab:,
I
don't.,
I
guess
maybe
this..
I
don't
know
this
question
for
natalie,,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everybody
feels
like
we're
good
here.
ii.
Think
that
we're
good
here,,
but
I
just
would
hate
to
go
down
the
road,
and
somebody
says,
hey,,
but
tab
doesn't..
We
can't
like
proactively,
do
land
use
stuff.