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Veronica
son:
well,,
we
are
pleased
to
have
you
all,
join
us
today
to
strike
a
balance
between
meaningful
and
transparent
engagement
and
online
security..
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Veronica
son:
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Veronica
son:
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C
Ryan
schuchard:
alex.,
no
edits..
I
compliment
meredith
on
doing
a
a
great
job
of
capturing,
at
least
everything
that
I
said
when
I
remember
that
I
think
they're
excellent..
I
just
have
one
procedural
question,
which
is
on
number
5,,
which
concerns
the
parking..
The
neighbor
parking
program
that
we
made
a
motion
on
th
is
part
of
that
motion..
We
discussed
telling
council
our
unanimous
recommendation
that
city
council
should
consider.
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C
Ryan
schuchard:
has
a
role
ideally,.
We
would
have
a
role
or
some
way
to
make
sure
the
council
is
hearing,
like
what
I
think
is
our
sort
of
headline
statement
of
that
motion.
ii.
Don't
think
it's
it
has
to
happen
in
this
moment,,
but
I
just
want
to
call
out
that
think
we
should.
we
should
clarify
what
the
next
steps
are
on.
That.
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Natalie
stiffler:,
then
there's
no
need
to
go
to
council
at
this
point.,
and
so
that's
the
only
reason
why,
in
this
circumstance
there's
not
like
another
formal
step
to
go
to
council.-
but
ii,
believe,
see
these
staff
discussed
other
means
to
get
that
kind
of
communication
to
them.,
whether
that
would
be
an
ip
or
something
that
doesn't
need
action.
right?.
Another
venue
for
communication.
does
that
make
sense?.
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Chris
hagelin:
hi,
tick.
chris
hagelin:
conduct
this
survey..
It
is
a
statistically
significant
scientific
survey
with
correct
sampling,
practices,
and
it's
conducted
by
a
third
party
survey,
consultant.,
actually
the
same
company
that
has
done
it
since
1991.
They
were
bought
out.,
but
it's
the
same
staff
people
working
on
this
survey.,
so
they
have
very
intimate
knowledge
of
all
the
data
travel.
G
Chris
hagelin:
behavior
data
in
boulder.
and
it's
it's
been
great
to
work
with
them
over
the
years..
The
main
purpose
of
the
boulder
valley,
employee
survey
is
to
track
employee,
travel,,
behavior
and
demographics,
and
and
look
for
long
term
trends
and
and
look
at
impacts
of
our
investments
and
programs
and
policies
on
that
travel.
Behavior.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
we
also
use
this
and
the
modal
shift
report,,
which
is
stems
from
our
resident
travel
diary
to
measure
progress
towards
meeting
our
goals
at
the
transportation
master
plan,
and
also
with
our
climate
goals
as
well..
So
these
2
surveys,,
the
boulder
valley,
employee
survey
and
the
resident
trial
travel
diary..
That's
that's.
G
Chris
hagelin:
kind
of
published
in
the
what's
called
the
modal
shift,
report,
really
form
the
backbone
of
our
metrics
program
here
at
the
city
of
boulder.
and
and
then
certainly,.
It's
great
to
have
such
longitudinal
data
to
really
understand
travel
behavior,
both
by
our
employees
and
our
residents.
So.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
the
we
did
conducted
this
last
fall.
We
got
approximately
900
responses..
The
way
in
which
the
the
sample
is
created
is
by
looking
at
different
types
of
employers
by
size,,
location,
and
type..
So
we
get
a
representative
sample
of
our
full
business
community
and
within
the
city.,
and
then
what
we
do
is,
we
ask,
once
a
company
is
selected,.
We
ask
their
employees
to
fill
out.
G
Chris
hagelin:
a
survey.,
and
this
really
documents
not
only
work
trips,,
but
also
all
the
trips
they
make
during
the
day
as
well..
So
we
we
not
only
understand
how
they're
getting
in
into
boulder.
for
example,
if
they're
a
non
resident
employee,,
but
also
the
trips
they
take
during
the
day,,
and
we
know
that
the
mode
that
people
take
to
boulder
really
affects
the
modes
that
they
take.
for
those
different
types
of
day.
Trips.
G
G
chris
hagelin:,
just
kind
of
the
survey
for
the
whole
community,
and
then
we'd
have
a
focus
on
the
downtown
and
and
usually
see
you
faculty
and
staff..
This
year
we
did
a
much
larger
survey
where
we
had
many
different
sample
sub
sample
populations
that
we
were
able.,
so
we're
able
to
draw
out..
So
we
not
only
did
the
downtown
and
see
you
faculty
and
staff,.
We
also
looked
at
boulder
junction
with
phase
2
coming
on..
You
know
the
planning
for
phase
2
happening.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
we
did
the
area
around
alpine
balsam,,
knowing
the
impact
that
that
development
with
both
affordable
housing,
market
rate
and
the
new
civic
center..
It's
gonna
have
in
that
area.
and
then
we've
also
done
east
boulder.
Since
we
had
just
done
the
east
boulder
community
plan.,
so
we're
getting
some
information
there
as
well..
So
it
was
a
much
larger
effort..
So
it's
taken
a
little
bit
longer,
and
then
I
would
say,.
The
really
cool
thing
is
because
we
have
so
many
new
planners
on
our
staff.
G
Chris
hagelin:
I,,
you
know
we
really
gave
them
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
report
with
kind
of
some
fresh
eyes,
and
and
to
see
what
other
types
of
cross
tabs
or
analysis
that
they'd
like
to
have..
So
it's
really
been
a
great
great
effort
this
year
to
try
and
revitalize.
this.
This
survey
that
we've
been
doing
since
1991.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
so
just
some
of
the
some
of
the
results,
and
some
of
these,
you'll,
see
that
we
have
some
significant
changes.
and
I
would
say,
you
know,.
When
we
look
at
these
changes
in
general,,
we
see
a
lot
of
the
impacts
of
covid
still
happening
in
our
community
and
affecting
people's
travel
behavior.
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
but
when
we
break
it
down
and
we
split
residents
and
non
resident
employees.,
that's
where
you
really
see
the
difference
over
time.,
but
even
here
we've
we
see
an
uptick
in
our
boulder.
residents
who
work
in
boulder..
So
you
know,
when
you
look
at
that
bottom
line,.
Since
1,991,
we've
made
some
good.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
when
you
look
at
the
the
upper
line,,
you
really
see
that
we
haven't
made
much
of
a
dent
in
non
resident.
Employees.,
you
know,,
it's
really
difficult
to
get
those
longer
trips
shifted
and
what
we've
seen
over
the
years
is
really
not
only
are
people
living
who
are
non
resident
employees
living
further
and
further
away
from
the
city,,
but
they're.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
a
greater
percentage
of
are
living
outside
the
rtd
service
area..
So
there's
not
even
a
real
opportunity,
a
viable
opportunity
to
use
transit
for
those
work
trips.
the
one
time
we
did
see,
see?
a
statistically
significant
drop.
wasn't
19
was
in
2,008
gas
prices
were
at
the
highest..
We
saw
it
go
down
to
74%
sdb,,
but
as
you
can
see,
it
just
rebounded
again.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
this
kind
of
gives
you
a
full
chart
of
showing
all
the
different
modes,,
so
you
can
see..
Certainly
the
the
differences.
bicycle
travel
is
certainly
a
a
major
difference.
11%
of
both
residents,
reporting,
biking
to
work
versus
1%
of
your
non
resident
employees..
What
we
really?
What
I
wanted
to
point
out,
here,
too,,
is.
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
by
covid
and
by
rtd
service
reductions..
We
also
notice
the
work
at
home
percentage..
So
certainly
during
covid,
we
had
a
number
of
you:
know,
shifts
and
travel
behavior
to
working
from
home.
and
now
we're
still
in
that
kind
of
work
from
home.,
hybrid
environment,
return
to
office
environment..
But
a
significant
amount
of
people
are
still
working
from
home.,
at
least
that
last
fall.
When
these
surveys
were
were
taken.
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:
on
on
travel
behavior
of
our
employees..
We
typically
say
that
the
eco
pass
is
our
most
powerful
tool
in
changing
travel
behavior,,
and
we
have
the
statistics
to
back
it
up..
When
you
look
at
people
who
have
an
ecopass
versus
people
that
don't,
there
is
a
significant
difference
in
in
travel
behavior,,
whether
they
use
the
bus
on
the
day
of
the
survey.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
whether
they
ever
use
it
to
commute,
and
then
also,
if
they
use
it
for
non
work
trips
as
well.,
and
this
is
something
we
see
in
the
boulder
valley,
employee,
survey,
and
we
also
see
in
the
resident
travel
survey
as
well.,
but
the
residents,.
It's
even
more
of
a
of
a
difference..
You
know,.
We
have
typically
said
that.
G
G
Chris
hagelin:
on
our
eco
pass
participation
in
our
business
community..
We
were
reaching
a
point
prior
to
covid,,
where
nearly
half
of
our
daytime
population..
So
you
think
about
the
residents
who
are
remaining
here
for
work,
and
our
non
resident
employees
that
are
here
during
the
workday,,
where
over
half
of
all
of
our
employees
had
access
to
an
eco,
path.
G
Chris
hagelin:
participation
by
businesses
across
the
city,
and
we
continue
to
to
provide
business
rebates
and
subsidize
that..
But
during
covid
we
saw
a
significant
drop
in
businesses
that
that
participate
and
pay
to
be
in
in
the
business.
eco
pass
program..
So
this
is
something
that
is
a
concern,
and
that.
G
G
G
chris
hagelin:,
so
just
to
summarize..
This
is
a
huge
document.
there's
so
many
cross
tabs
once
it's
published.
I'll
invite
you
to
to
take
a
look
at
the
full
thing..
I
just
wanna
kinda,
give
you
a
taste
during
this
matters
from
staff
update.,
but
you
know
when
we
look
at
some
of
these
key
findings..
Certainly
these
findings
suggest
that
there
are
some
lingering.
it
impacts
of
of
covid
on
travel,
behavior.
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
I
think,
we're
also
seeing
the
impacts
of
lower
transit
service..
So
you
know
right
now.,
you
know,
during
covid,
rt,,
I
believe,
dropped
to
about
40%
of
pre
covid
service
levels.
and
we
haven't
even
returned.,
I
think,
we're
maybe
at
60,
65%
of
our
td
service
level..
So
this
continues
to
be.
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:
can
envision
0
to
improve
safety..
You
know
that
really
affects
our
residents
and
their
ability
to
have
viable
transportation
options
for
them,
but
also
for
trips,
taken
during
the
day
by
our
non
resident
employees..
We
we're
it's
informing
our
our
tdm.
outreach,,
as
I
said,
with
our
work,
with
boulder
transportation
connections.
G
Chris
hagelin:
and
the
chamber,,
and
then
when
you
look
at
some
of
our
newer,
initiatives,
and
and
the
hope
that
we
have
in
them
to
to
bring
about
positive
change
in
in
in
travel,
behavior
and
shifting
away
from
single
occupant
vehicles.
you
know,.
We
look
at
our
micro
mobility.
Program.
we've
seen
a
tremendous
increase
in
b
cycle
trips
prior
to
covid
averaging
around
100,000
trips.
At
half
a
million
trips.
G
Chris
hagelin:
in
2022,
with
the
switch
to
the
electric
system.
and
then
also
the
cu
student
program..
So
we
look
forward
to
that.
Up.
next,
you'll
hear
from
allison
about
our
work
on
expanding
the
lime
scooter
program
citywide,.
We
anticipate
that
that
will
have
another
significant
impact
and
travel
behavior.
really
looking
at
that.
First
and
final
mile.
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
we
also
are
looking
at..
You
know,
we're
constantly
working
at
restoration
of
our
tv
service
levels
on
the
on
the
political
front.,
we're
looking
at
the
introduction
of
micro,
transit
and
gun
barrel..
That's
another
thing.,
we're
we're.
Looking
at
and
then,.
I
think,
you
know,
all
the
regional
work.
We
do.
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
just
to
to
give
you
a
a
heads
up.,
the
the
resident
travel
diary
is
occurring
this
fall..
We
began
this
in
1991
year
before
the
the
employee
survey.
These
findings
are
published
in
the
modal
shift.
Report.
we're
gonna
be
doing
that
in
september,
typically,.
This
is
a
much
larger
effort.
We
send
out
surveys
to
15,000
households
in
boulder.
It
is
a
household
survey,
and
then
there's
an
individual
travel
diary.
G
Chris
hagelin:
so
that
people
record
all
the
trips
they
take
over
a
24,
h,
period.,
and
so
we
anticipate
that
report
to
be
published
in
2024,,
and
I
think
once
we
have
both
a
new
boulder
valley,
employee
survey
and
a
new
resident
travel
diary
survey.,
you
know
we'll
be
able
to
take
a
look
at
them
together.
and
really
help
inform
some
of
our
policies
and
programs.
as
we
move
forward,.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
thank
you
for
your
time.
and
as
soon
as
we
have
the
final
report,
the
full
report
publish
we'll
make
sure
that
tab
members
receive
that..
You
can
look
through
the
full
report.
it's
it's
long
lot
of
graphs,
a
lot
of
charts.
and
I'm
always
happy
to
you.
Know.
discuss
the
findings
of
those
reports.,
but
thank
you.
B
F
Chris
hagelin:
work,,
or
is
it
limited
to
the
transportation
department.
specifically,
no,
ii,
frequently
help
provide
data
to
all,
all
different
departments,,
open,
space,,
mountain
parks,,
community,
vitality,
of
course.
and
so
yeah,.
These
are
available
and
useful
to
to
all..
I
do
a
lot
of
work
with
planning
and
development
services
as
well
to
look
at.
G
F
C
C
Ryan
schuchard:
for
our
programming.,
so
my
first
question,
sorry,
I
missed
this,,
but
on
the
the
resume
versus
non
resident.,
do,
do
you?.
What's
the
share
in
terms
of
the
population
or
so?,
I
recently
learned
from
our
planning
and
development
services
team,,
who
kind
of
do
that
type
of
research.
Looking
at
the
number
of
jobs
number
of
employees
in
boulder.
What
they
have
told
me
is
that.
G
G
G
C
Ryan
schuchard:
okay,.
Thank
you
for
that..
I
thinking
for
the
trend
line
information..
I
wasn't
even
thinking
about
it.,
but
that's
interesting.,
that
used
to
be
maybe
half
and
half.,
and
now
that
that
has
been
a
declining
number
of
people
who
live
in
the
city.
okay,.
Thank
you
for
that.,
my
second
question
is,.
I
couldn't
help.,
but
just
try
to
read
into
that..
You
had
a
table
of
mostly
residents.
C
C
C
C
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:
recorded
your
answer.,
it
is,,
you
know.,
have
you
ever
teleworked,,
you
know,
and
it's
ii
believe
it's
last
week,
or
maybe
it
could
have
been
the
last
month.
I'll
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
phrasing
of
that
question..
But
that's
where
you
had,,
you
know,
a
significant
amount
of
people.
Saying,
yeah,!
I
you
know,.
If
you
at
least
tell
once
a
week.
you're
you're
gonna,
be
in
that.
G
Ryan
schuchard:,
you
know.
you're
part
of
that
high
percentage.,
but
you
know,
back,,
you
know,
the
day
of
13
for
residents,
10
for
non
residents
while
you're
on
this
question
and
on
this
chart,
I'll
also
note
that
transit
use
went
from
looks
like
15
as
a
regular
well,.
That
would
be
that
day
to
6,
and
that's
sort
of,.
I
think.
C
C
Chris
hagelin:
yeah,
ii
would.,
I
would
say,
that,
you
know,
between
the
last
2
surveys.
covid,
certainly
had
a
significant
impact.,
but
we
have
been
losing
transit
service
even
before
covid.,
we
are
losing
transit
service..
When
you
look
at
the
decline
of
the
200
routes,,
especially
the
ones
that
really
served
our
residential
communities.
C
C
E
Tila
duhaime:
thank
you.,
thanks,
chris..
I
really,
you
know,
bunch
of
us
really
like
to
see
the
data
and
like
this
kind
of
analysis.,
and
while
we're
on
this
screen,,
I'm
also
sort
of
looking
at
the
residents
outside
boulder.
definitely.
that
that
trend,
line,,
being
very
stubborn
at
around
80
is,
is.
E
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
a
bit,,
you
know.
kind,
of,,
you
know.,
the
high
gas
prices
was
2,007,,
you
know.,
so
it,
you
know.
it's,,
you
know,
kind
of
hung,
there.
but
then,
since
then,,
when
the
gas
prices
dropped.
after
that,,
you
know,,
that's
where
you've
kept
on
seeing
this
this
big
drop,
and
then
I
surely
think
you
know
covid
had
an
impact
just
in
this
last
one.,
but
you
know,
of
people
not
want
to
be
in
close
proximity
to
people.
G
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
especially
since
so
many
more
of
our
non
resident
employees,
are
living
outside
of
the
rtd
service.
Area.
van
pool
may
be,.
You
know
the
only
option
to
get
them..
It's
it's,.
I
think
the
difficulty
is
that
you
know,
for
a
long
time
van
pool
programs
require
that
you're
kind
of
using
it
every
day,
you
know,,
based
on
the
pricing
formula.
They
they
use.,
more
recently,
van
pool
programs
are
beginning
to
be
a
little
bit
more
flexible.
G
Chris
hagelin:
that.,
maybe
you
could
use
it
3
out
of
the
5
work
days
in
a
week
to
do
it.
what
I
hope
to
see
in
the
future
and
what
you
know,.
We
frequently
talk
with
dr.
cog,
who
uses
enterprise
for
their
van
pool
program
is,.
Can
you
essentially
create
that
van
pool
like
a
tnc.
like
an
uber
or
lyft.,
we're
kind
of,,
you
know.
the
day
of
you?
Could
say,
oh,
there's
an
empty
seat
in
this
van
pool.
G
Chris
hagelin:
can
I
fill
this
seat
and
and
pay
per
ride?.
So
this
has
been
an
idea..
That's
you
know..
We've
we've
thought
about
it.
we?.
It's
been
circulated.,
it's
discussed
at
our
national
conferences.,
but
we
have
yet
to
see..
You
know,
a
major
van
pool
provider,
actually
pull
the
trigger
and
do
a,.
You
know,,
basically
a
a
ride,
hailing
version
of
a
van
pool.,
but
I
think
that's
where
the
industry
will
end
up..
It's
just.
C
C
Ryan
schuchard:,
maybe
for
the
final
reporter.,
I
don't
know..
It
feels
like
there's
a
story
there,
because
it
would
be
bucking
a
national
trend..
I
think
of
tncs
really
doing
a
lot
more..
So
these
are
looking
at
work.
Trips.,
so
ii
would
say
that
tncs,
for
the
most
part,
are
are
not
used
for
work.
Trips.
G
G
G
C
Ryan
schuchard:
great
and
the
final
question,,
I'm
sorry..
This
is
one
of
the
last
thing
you
have
earlier..
So
I
think
you
said
it's
about
900
people
or
respondents,
was
the..
So
is
that
what's
the
sort
of
level
of
statistical
significance
or
representation?,
I
believe
the
you
know,
at
the
95
confidence
level..
I
think
it's
a
2
sampling,
error.
C
G
G
Chris
hagelin:,
the
mode
that
you
take
to
work
chris
hagelin:
kind
of
dictates
the
modes
that
you
take
during
the
day..
So
if
you
drive
to
work,
you're,
typically
driving
to
any
appointments
that
you
have
during
the
day,,
you
know,,
if
you're
using
bus
bike
or
walk,
you're,
usually
using
bus
bike
or
walk
to
to
fulfill
those
trips
during
the
day
as
well.
G
G
D
F
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
our
city
goals
from
our
transition
master
plan
to
our
climate
action
plan
to
our
boulder
valley,
comp
plan..
It
really
sets
out
a
roadmap
for
our
future
that
shared
and
electric,
and
can
meet
a
lot
of
our
transition
and
climate
goals
like
reducing
sov
trips
like
chris,
was
just
sharing
about
and
reducing
congestion
and
air
pollution
and
increasing
mobility,
options,
and
really
serving
as
that,
first
and
final
mile
connection.
F
F
F
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
over
the
course
of
that
year
it
was
deployed..
We
had
up
to
288
line
scooters.,
it
did
start
with
200
and
as
trips
per
device,
reached
over
2
per
day.,
there
was
a
few
increases
throughout
the
pilot
program,,
so
it
did
end
with
288
over
the
course
of
that
pilot.
we
had
over
a
hundred
15,000
trips.
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
and
the
average
trips
per
day
per
device
per
day,,
which
is
one
of
our
metrics,
for
the
program,
was
onefive..
There
were
a
few
times
when
it
went
over
2,,
and
this
means
that
it
does
have
to
continue
for
2
weeks
in
order
for
the
number
of
devices
to
increase,,
which
is
why
it
increased
from
200
to
2
88
over
the
course
of
the
pilot
program..
Next
slide,
please.
F
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
we're
looking
at
a
late
august
timeframe
for
the
expansion
of
the
line
scooters
to
be
on
the
ground
here
in
boulder
west
of
twenty-eighth
street,
and
in
terms
of
the
expansion
by
numbers,.
The
expansion
geographically
will
be
about
tripling.,
and
so
that's
what
we
are
anticipating.
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
and
above
that,
the
only
way
the
line
scooters
would
be
able
to
increase.
The
size
of
the
fleet
would
be
if
they
meet
that
2
trips
per
day
per
vehicle
over
the
course
of
2
weeks,,
and
then
there's
the
opportunity
to
increase
20
after
that..
So
there's
also
the
opportunity
to
decrease
the
fleet..
If
the
fleet
does
not
meet
one
trips
per.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
and
handicapped
residents
to
be
able
to
use
lyme
access
and
and
their
various
capacities.,
so
we're
working
with
them
to
expand
those
programs
within
the
city.,
both
programmatically
and
and
figuring
out.
The
best
way
to
have
increased
outreach
there,
so
that
folks
are
not
only
aware
of
them,
but
have
support.
with
these
equity
programs
within
lyme.
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
next
slide,,
please
allison
moore-farrell:,
something
else.
We're
looking
at.
with
this
expansion,
and,
and
that
will
be
part
of
this
expansion-
is
using
technology
within
limes
programs
to
manage
operations.
and
especially
parking
within
e
scooters..
So
we
have
a
few
specific
zones.
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:,
you
just
walk
the
scooter
out
of
the
zone
to
resume.
Writing.-
so
examples
of
this
would
be
pearl.
Street,,
mall,
cemeteries,,
ball
fields..
We
have
a
number
of
these
and
also
be
mapped
out
online,,
so
that
people
are
aware
of
where
they
are,
but
really
places.
Where?,
it's
more
pedestrian,
oriented
or
just
not
appropriate
for
scooters.
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
again,
likely,
where
there's
more
pedestrians
or
kind
of
intermixing
of
mobility..
So
this
would
be
on
thirteenth
street,,
on
university
hill
street,
downtown
that
interse
intersect
with
pearl
street,
mall
and
we
can,.
We
can
change
these
locations.
again,
iterating
with
the
program.
If
we
identify
areas
where
it
looks
like
there's
potential
conflict.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
thank
you.,
allison
moore-farrell:,
and
this
next
slide
is
in
the
downtown
area,
you'll
see
a
significant
increase
in
lime,
growth,
there.
and
again
allocating
those
spaces
for
folks
to
go
ahead
and
park
those
scooters
and
go
ahead
and
use
other
modes
from
there
and
and
walk
to
pearl
stream.
All
in
areas.
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
at
this
time
we
are
not
having
any
lime
growth
in
boulder
junction..
Currently,
scooters
are
allowed
in
boulder
junction
because
it
is
east
of
twenty-eighth
street,
and
there
has
not
been
an
identified
need
from
there.,
but
again,,
we'll
likely
iterate
and
look
for
at
least
one
potentially
and
kind
of
like
in
front
of
the
road
house
or
somewhere
along
there..
But.
F
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
outreach
materials,
we've
been
sharing
this
information
through
press
releases
through
our
social
media..
We've
sent
all
of
this
information
to
a
lot
of
our
partners
and
downtown
boulder
b,
jab,
university
hill,
revitalization
committee
and
university.
Health.
Commission.-
so,
really
getting
that
word
out.
to
where
a
lot
of
these.
H
Triny
willerton:
yes,,
great!
well,,
that's
that's
amazing.
and
I'm
so
so
happy
to
see
this
growth
and
how
how
successful
the
program
has
been.,
and
I
guess
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
One
of
them
has
to
do
with
parking..
How
are
you
guys
gonna
control
parking??
Is
it
gonna
be
like
a
fine
if
you
just
don't
leave
it
where
you're
supposed
to.
or.
H
F
G
G
H
F
G
Chris
hagelin:,
I
think
I
don't
know
if
you
were
referring
to
kind
of,
you
know,
b
cycle
has
an
annual
membership
in
a
program.
and
see,.
You,
students
have
that
annual
membership
and
program.,
so
lyme
does
not
have
kind
of
a
analogous
type
membership
program
in
terms
of
like
unlimited
trips..
If
you,
if
you
purchase
a
membership
for
x
amount,,
you
get
unlimited
trips
on
it.
there.
They
do
have
a
program
where
you
can
pay
a
little
bit
more.
G
Chris
hagelin:
and
that,
then
you
only
pay
by
the
minute,
and
you
don't
pay
for
the
unlocking
fee..
So
a
typical
user
pays
an
unlocking
fee
to
just
unlock
the
bike
and
then
a
per
minute
fee..
So
there
is
one
program
where
you
can.,
you
know,.
If
you're
a
heavy
user,
you
just
you
don't.,
you
pay
not
to
have
the
unlocking
fee.
G
Chris
hagelin:,
so
I
do
think
you
know
in
in
the
future.:
it's
it's
working
with
lyme
of,.
How
can
we
create
those
types
of
membership
programs?
Because
we
know
how
successful
they
are?
you
know,?
We
look
at
the
impact
that
you
know
the
the
student
membership
has
had
on
b,
cycle.
it's,,
you
know,
astronomical
increases.,
and
you
know,
we?
we've
had
already.,
you
know,
our
city
employees,.
Our
municipal
employees
receive.
G
Chris
hagelin:
recycle
memberships
as
well.,
but
you
know.
and
and
we've
had
people
ask
us,
do?.
Are
we
gonna
get
line
memberships
as
well?
and
it's
like,
well,?
They
don't
really
have
the
same
structure..
So
we're
gonna
have
to
work
on
on
that
to
to
figure
out..
How
can
we,
you
know,
extend
a
benefit,
or
you
know,.
How
can
an
employer
subsidize.
G
H
H
F
Allison
moore-farrell:
yeah,,
it's
a
good
question..
We
do
have
some
safety
messaging
in
the
you,
know,
messaging,
that
we've
done
thus
far
and
in
our
various
channels,
on
our
press,
release
and
socials.
and
and
we'll
continue
that
as
the
program
does
get
on
the
ground
and
and
folks
are
starting
to
use
it..
We
don't
have
anything
specifically
around
helmets
at
this
time
for
line..
I
think
that's
a
you
know.
great
thing
that
we
can
look
into.
F
E
E
E
E
Tila
duhaime:,
I
think,
for
the
most
part
we're
in
the
clear,,
because
technically
all
of
this
regulations
slowing
down,
parking,
restrictions.,
that's
all.,
just
a
matter
of
contract
between
lyme
and
the
city.,
or
see
you
in
the
city
so
sort
of
skirting
the
intent
of
the
law..
But
it
does
make
me
wonder
whether
our
which
wheels
go
where
ordnance
changes
past
muster
under
current
state
law,.
So
I
would.
E
Tila
duhaime:
and
it
what
flagged
it
for
me
was
talking
about
slow
zones.
We
have,
you
know,
dismount
zones
for
bikes,
and
gonna
be
the
same
dismount
zones
for
the
scooters..
But
last
time
we
talked
about
this..
The
geo.
location
of
these
scooters
was
not
precise
enough
to
be
able
to
tell
whether
they
were
on
a
sidewalk
or
in
an
adjacent
bike
lane
or
on
the
street.
E
Tila
duhaime:
and
to
the
extent
we
are
not
restricting
the
speeds
of
class
one
ebikes
say
in
a
bike:
lane,
you
know,
going
down
spruce,
or
wherever
that
we
probably,,
even
if
it
does
feel
like
a
place,,
we
might
want
scooters
to
go
slower
if
we're
not
doing
it
for
ebikes,
and
honestly,.
The
e-bikes
would
be.
E
F
C
D
D
B
Tila
duhaime:
do
something
to
report
on
the
connections
plan
proposed.
I
do
on
the
host
has
disable
participant
screen
sharing
for
me.,
which
doesn't
really
bother
me
that
much
because
I
can
just
talk
you
through
it.,
but
if
you
want
me
to
show.,
it's
just
basically
3
slides
that
the
planning
has
done.
E
E
Tila
duhaime:,
so
the
what's
kind
of
grayed
out
here
on
the
left
is
is
phase
one.
That's
mostly,
it's
been
planned,
built
out..
All
the
streets
are
there.,
it's
still
kind
of
waiting
to
be
fully
activated
by
businesses
and
still
housing
and
things
are
still
being
developed..
But
right
now
we
are
kind
of
proceeding
with
final
plans
on
phase
2,,
which
is
sort
of
the
brighter
section.,
and
this
is
sort
of
in
the
same
area.,
but
on
the
other
side,
on
the
eastern
side,.
Basically
eastern
and
northern
side
of
the
of
where
the
railroad
goes.
E
E
Tila
duhaime:
ways.
that
tila
duhaime:
planning
is
thinking
about
growing
the
city.
and
it
became
apparent
that
there
were
some
things
in
the
original
plan
that
we're
probably
not
reflective
of
our
current
thinking
and
desires.,
and
so
they've
convened
a
multi
board
panel
to
kind
of
weigh
in
on
certain
sections
of
proposed
amendments
that
planning
staff
is
identified..
We
might
wanna
do
for
phase
2.
E
Tila
duhaime:
and
the
biggest
one.
there's
kind
of
3
basic
areas
that
they're
proposing
members.
one
is
based
on
land.
Use,
one
is
on
transit,
connections,
and
one
is
on
sort
of
character
of
the
space.,
and
so
obviously,
for
this
board,
we're
mostly
talking
about
land,
use
and
transit
connections.,
and
before
I
go
through
this
they've
asked
me
to
ask
you
guys:
2
top
level
questions,
so
I'll
give
them
to
you
first,.
You
have
them
in
the
mind.
Instead
of
me
springing
over
the
end.
E
Tila
duhaime:
and
I
can
talk
through
a
couple
of
things
that
some
other
board
members
we're
we're
discussing,,
but
if
anything
jumps
out
at
you
in
particular.
then,,
that
now
is
your
time
to
speak.
The
next
phase.
the
next
step
here
for
the
for
these
proposed
amendments
is,
it
will
go
to
a
public
hearing
and
a
recommendation
for
planning
board,
and
then
go
to
council
the
following
month..
The
planning
board
meeting
is
next
week.
E
Tila
duhaime:,
so
the
I
think
the
memo
has
already
been
prepared,,
but
if
we
wanted
to
give
any
verbal
comments,
tonight.,
it's
there's
still
time
to
get
that
to
planning
board.
and
the
second
question.
Is,.
Are
there
any
specific
topics
like
code,
changes
or
programs.
that
we
want
to
keep
in
mind
for
future
steps.?
And
I
don't
think
that
the
future
steps
in
that
is
specific
to
this
revision..
I
think
in
general,
we,
you
know
we
do
have.
E
Tila
duhaime:
planning
documents
that
might
be
subject
to
revision
when
sort
of
we're
ready
to
start
sharpening
the
shovels,
to
to
dig
in
the
ground..
But
are
there
any
things
in
particular
that
this
board
wants
to
have
planning
staff,
keep
in
mind
for
future
step,
for
next
steps
or
for
treat
future
changes.
to
this.?
And
I
think
other
planning
documents.
E
E
E
I
E
E
E
E
Tila
duhaime:
this
map.,
I'm
sorry
it's
hard
to
see,,
but
it's
kind
of
the
best
one
that
I
have..
So
there
are
a
number
of
underpasses
and
bridges
and
things
that
we're
all
part
of
phase
one,
and
some
of
the
things
that
fall
in
phase.
2
have
already
been
built
like
this
little
underpass
here,
and
then
there's
a
bridge
over
here.
E
Tila
duhaime:,
maybe
rethought..
So
there
was
definitely
an
emphasis
on
connecting
over
here,
where
I've
just
circled
to
cross
pearl,
parkway
and
kind
of
make
that
more
of
the
main
avenue
to
4,
predominantly
motor
vehicles
to
enter
and
exit,
and
they
were
just
trying
to
philip
described
it.
As,
or
christopher
tried
to
describe
it
as.
E
Tila
duhaime:
sort
of
reducing
redundant
connections,,
trying
to
get
rid
of
things
that
seemed
excessive.
and
and
in
particular,
if
we're
crossing
the
railroad,.
Some
of
these
places
are
a
little
bit
difficult
to
to
make
crossings.,
and
so,
if
we
didn't
really
need
them,,
it
made
sense
to
try
to
streamline
and
and
sort
of
funnel.
E
E
E
E
E
Tila
duhaime:
coming
here
that
suddenly
diverse
users
way
over
here.
and
I
sort
of
objected
to
that..
So
I
recognize
that
planning
staff
was
trying
to
reduce
redundant
connections.,
but
this
is
actually
a
pretty
important,.
I
think.
multi
use
path,
connection.
and
right
now
it's
pretty
disjointed..
It
is
not
well
used,,
because
the
connection
right
up
here
doesn't
really
go.
Anywhere.
E
Tila
duhaime:,
but
I
advocated
for
having
a
a
connection
along
here
that
would
make..
That's
not
letting
me
highlight
anymore.
that
would
connect
that.
so
that
multi
use
path,
users
and
pedestrians
walking
on
that
pedestrian
path
would
all
become
multi,
use,
path,
users,
and
could
cross
pearl
parkway
there,,
instead
of
diverting
out
of
their
way.
E
Tila
duhaime:
struck
me
as
quite
a
concern,,
and
it
was
a
subject
of
a
bit
of
discussion
at
city
council
study
session
on
this
before
our
second
multi
board
meeting
on
on
this
project,,
because
those
underpasses
are
complicated
for
a
number
of
reasons.,
there's
insufficient
right,
away.,
there's
a
lot
of
flood
mitigation
and
flooding
concerns..
It's
just
a
hard
place
to
build
underpasses.,
and
my
understanding
is
that
as
a
city
we've.
E
E
Tila
duhaime:,
and
so
I
have
advocated
for
removing
those
under
passes
and
instead
converting
them
to
an
on
street,
an
at
grade
connection..
This
would
be
an
exciting
place
for
us
to
do
a
couple
of
protected
intersections
to
really
double
down
on
the
sort
of
new
thinking
about
how
we
want
to
redirect
drivers
to
be
more
cognizant
of
and
respectful
of
other
vulnerable
road
users,
and
to
let
them
be
welcome
on
the
road
instead
of
shunted
somewhere
else..
So
that
was
a
big
bulk
of
mine.
E
E
Tila
duhaime:
I
wanna
say,.
What
am
I
trying
to
say?
train
station,,
the
central
station?,
and
so
that's
like,?
I
think,
a
good
place
and
an
appropriate
place
to
have
an
underpass,,
because
it's
not
just
for
it's
actually
for
the
end
users
to
convene
there
and
to
be
able
to
access.
the
transit
that
they're
trying
to
get
to..
It's
not
so
much
a
transportation,,
but
it
is
a
connection
for
people..
This
is
their
last,.
You
know,
bit
of
their
of
their
trip.
E
I
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
yeah,
I'll
chime
in
really
quickly.,
so
yes,
the
the
diagram
that
we
have
prepared
and
sort
of
the
final
proposed
amendments
to
the
transit
village
area,
plan.
that
will
go
to
planning
board..
We're
actually
gonna,
send
the
memo
and
everything
tomorrow
morning..
So
we
have
some
make
any
you
know,
last
minute
adjustments,.
If
we
need
to.
I
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
but
that's
gonna,
go
to
planning
board
tomorrow,
yeah,
tomorrow,
morning,
and
then
the
meeting
is
next
week.
We
did
remove
those
2
under
passes,
there,
right
near
the
rail.
and
pearl
parkway
at
that..
At
that
location,
there.
yup!
exactly
and
the
only
other
thing
I
would
clarify,
or
ii
would
be
interested
in
hearing
more
from
tab.
Members
about.
is
the.
I
I
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
there,
there
is
an
existing
crossing
there,
you
know,
basic
sort
of
cross.
Walk
that
actually
connects
across
there.,
so
ii
would
be
interested
if
there's
something
in
addition
to
that
that
you're
thinking
of.
beyond,
what's
there
today?
to
connect
to
that
multi
use
path,
extension
going
further
south.
E
E
Tila
duhaime:,
even
using
the
existing
perl
multi,
use
path
that
runs
along
pearl
parkway.
That
is,
in
a
particularly
uncomfortable
place
to
cross
because
of
the
vehicle
speeds,
and
a
lot
of
drivers
underestimate
how
fast
a
bike
is
going,
and
think
they
can,
they
can
cut
in
front
of
us..
So
I
think
it
would
be
a
really
great
place.
E
C
C
C
C
C
C
D
D
B
B
Alex
weinheimer:
improvements
up
and
down,,
but
especially
focus
at
those
intersections,
could
help
some
design
features.
There
could
really
change
the
the
driver
behavior
here
so
that
they're
not
moving
quickly
where
there
are
conflicts
of
pedestrians.
and
there's
an
expectation
that
you're
gonna
see
people
walking
in
biking
in
this
area.
C
Ryan
schuchard:,
I
was
kind
of
offered
just
1
one
other
observation
for
for
christ..
Ever
since
we're
just
you
asking
feedback.
w.
1.
One
thing
I
saw
on
this,
that
maybe
it
provides
an
illustration
is
ii,
think
it
was
last
summer..
It
was
like
it
was
during
the
day,
and
there
was
a
it.
Was.
must
have
been
a
can
like
a
bike
camp,
some
kind
of
camp
with
kids
on
bikes,,
and
I
don't
know..
There
was
probably
middle
school,
like
I
don't
know,
10
or
something,,
so
they
all
could
ride
bikes..
C
Ryan
schuchard:-
and
I
was
I.
we
again
was
going-
was
going
north
already
to
cross.,
and
I
see
this
this
group,
and
it
becomes
super
spread.
Out.
and
I,.
You
know,
been
given
the
sense
that,
like
they're
in
a
kind
of
a
safe
zone.,
and
then
they
and
they
had
like,.
I
don't
know,,
like
probably
18
young
adults
who
are
managing
them.
one
with
the
engine..
One
was
the
caboose,
and
they
got
so
spread
out.
C
Ryan
schuchard:
and
they
ended
up,.
You
know,,
just
these
young
kids
spread
across
the
highway
with
don't
with,,
you
know.,
don't
walk
signal,
and
it
was
green
lights,,
the
wrong
lights.
and
it..
It's,
I
think,
that's
just
another
example,
or
an
example
of
how
it's
if
this
is
a
a
transition
zone
from
where
it
seems
like
people
are
pretty
safe
on
multi
use,
past.
suddenly.
C
B
Natalie
stiffler:
christopher.,
I'm
wondering,,
sorry
to
just
about
this
intersection.
and
how
do
we
get
it
into
the
connections?
Plan?,
I'm
wondering,.
Is
there
another
option
under
like
proposed
crossings,
that
it's
like
intersection
improvements
or
enhanced??
I
think,
valerie
said,,
enhanced
intersection,
or
something
that.
I
I
F
F
F
F
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
so
am
I
reading
that
correctly.
yeah,
the.?
So
I
think
that
northern,
that
northern
section
would
become
more
of
a
well,
essentially
would
be
brought
up
to
our
improved
local
road.
cross
section,,
and
that
is
intended
as
a
bike
way
that
goes
to
the
north,,
so
that
would
include
some
painted
bike
lane,.
I
believe.
I
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:
as
well.
kristofer,
johnson,,
cob:
and
1
one
thing
ii,
do,
I'll
point
out,,
which
was
a
pretty
significant
change
from
the
original
plan
that
was
that
was
adopted
back
in
2,007..
Originally,
there
was
a
a
vehicular
road
connection
from
from
frontier
and
old
pearl
across
goose
creek
to
wilderness
place.
F
F
F
F
F
F
E
Tila
duhaime:
yeah.,
so
we
did
talk
a
little
bit,
becky.
we
passed
basically,,
you
know,.
Do
we
think,?
What
lessons
have
we
learned
from
junction
place??
Do
we
think
that
it
was?
it
was
designed
as
a
shared
street.?
Do
we
think
it's
functioning
that
way?
the
answer?
Was,
no,
we're
not
finished,.
You
know,
sort
of
activating
the
area,
anyway.
E
E
F
Becky
davies:,
I
don't
know
what
culture
would
make
it
feel,
amsterdam.
the
users
would
behave
differently.
but
yeah,.
Even
then
it's
just
like
you
wouldn't
have
a
street.
That's
that
big
plus
parking
like
squeezing
children
on
between
parked
cars
and
3
lanes
of
motor
vehicle
traffic..
It's
not
to
me
like
best
practice..
It's
not
mode
shift
level..
I
mean,
you'll
get
a
few
more
few
people
running,,
but
you're
not.
I
I
H
Triny
willerton:
yeah,-
I
guess
I'm
just
echoing
becky.
I
mean,
my
concern
is
that
if
we're
gonna
do
something
new
and
and
we're
trying
to
build
on
what
we
believe
in
as
far
as
mission
0,,
we
should
assume
that
people
are
gonna,
make
mistakes,,
not
assume
wonderful
behavior
from
anybody
on
the
road.
you
know,.
We
just
have
to
be
able
to
keep
people
safe
from
those
mistakes..
So
that's
just
like
my
2
cents.
B
I
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
good
question.,
I
mean
to
me.,
that's
probably
more
of
a
I
guess,,
an
operational
consideration..
We
would
look
at
more
closely,,
particularly
as
the
area
redevelop,,
and
we
start
to
get
the
volume
of
travelers
on
those
areas,.
I
think,
for
right,
now,
as
as
bill,
those
those
multi-exist
in
our
2
way,
facilities
on
both
sides.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
E
E
E
Tila
duhaime:
of
the
space
tila
duhaime:,
as
I
mentioned,
there's
kind
of
there's
doubling
down
on
the
idea.
That,
like
goose
creek,
should
feel
sort
of
park
like
the
way
that
it
does..
I
think
the
earlier
plans
had
development
right
up
to
it.,
but
there's
also
an
is
the
idea
of
like
trying
to
make
this
these.
E
E
Tila
duhaime:
monolithic,,
I
think,,
is
probably
what
we
were
working
on.
and
this
is
where
we
had
talked
about.
emphasizing
some
street
plantings..
There
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
how
to
improve
things
at
groups.,
goose
creeks,
instead
of
it
just
being
a
transportation
coordinator.
Have
it
be
a
place.
E
E
E
E
I
I
I
E
Tila
duhaime:
that
reminds
me,.
There
was
one
other
thing,,
and
I
think
it
came
from
chuck.
that
we
talked
about
on
the
transportation
connections,,
and
it
was
whether
we
really
needed
to
have
wilderness
place
now.
Go
all
the
way
through,
or
whether
it
was
possible,
for
instance,
to
enhance
this
pedestrian
connection
in
a
way
that
vehicles
would
either
access
this
side
or
this
side,,
but
sort
of
be
discouraged
from
driving
all
the
way
through,
or
maybe
prevent
it
from
driving
all
the
way.
Through.
I
Kristofer
johnson,
cob:,
you
know
fire,,
access,
and
other
things
like
that,,
just
to
make
sure
that
that
was
actually
still
feasible..
So
I
think
what
we
would
put.
What
we
would
propose
to
do
is
that
as
we
move
into
the
actual
implementation
steps
of
the
plan
and
and
work
more
closely
with
natalie
and
the
rest
of
the
transportation
team.
as
to
the.