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City of Charleston Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee 11/3/2021
B
So
welcome
everybody.
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
amy
couldn't
be
with
us
this
afternoon,
as
as
you
heard
or
know,
and
the
great
thing
is
that
she
does
she
and
the
staff
do
such
an
excellent
job
about
putting
all
this
information
together
in
a
powerpoint
that
you
know
we're
able
to
at
least
go
through
it
and
glean
from
it.
B
Most
of
the
basic
information
andrew
and
kathy
and
matt
are
here
to
help
us
with
any
questions
as
we
go
and
then
we'll
take
it
all
in
for
information,
and
if
we
have
further
questions,
we
know
that
amy
will
be
able
to
get
back
to
us.
So
I'm
just
gonna
start
with
a
moment
of
silence.
If
you
will,
as
we
pray
well
I'm
going
to.
B
I
won't
stay
completely
silent,
because
I
want
to
thank
our
and
remember
our
city,
council,
members
and
candidates
who
run
for
office
and
give
their
lives
and
time
to
this
public
service.
And
I
I
thank
the
lord
for
the
the
the
commitment
and
the
the
time
energy
dedication
that
you
give
to
our
citizens
here
in
the
city
of
charleston
and
a
further
moment
of
silence
for
your
own
personal
prayers.
B
A
D
B
Okay,
gotcha
and
then
I
guess
I
do
this
to
go
from
one
screen
to
the
next,
got
it
all
right.
So
we
did
want
to
just
advise
some,
the
committee
members,
that
we
have
a
request
from
the
downtown
alliance
when
they
form
when
we
form,
if
council
approves
it.
This
new
business
improvement
district
for
king
street,
that
it
include
an
annual
contribution
from
the
city,
and
I
guess
in
other
bids
around
the
country,
sometimes
the
local
municipality
will
will
contribute
to
it
and
and
so
they're.
B
Making
that
request
to
us
I
mean
the
whole
purpose
of
a
bid
is
to
set
up
extra
services
that
the
city,
the
municipality,
would
not
normally
provide
an
extra
level
of
cleaning
or
security
and,
as
you'll
see
in
the
bid
approval
that
comes
to
us
soon
they
have
a
whole
menu
of
those
extra
services
that
they
will
be
providing
to
the
district
so
anyway,
they're
making
that
request.
It's
not
in
our
proposed
budget
at
this
point,
but
it
just
arrived.
B
D
This
would
be
somewhat
on
par
with
what
the
bid
in
colombia
does,
where
the
the
city
of
columbia
puts
in
some
money
as
well,
and
then
our
financial
contributions
will
also
give
us
voting
rights
on
on
the
alliance
board
as
well.
Just
so
everybody's
clear,
we
will
be
on
the
alliance
board
regardless,
but
we
would
be
in
an
advisory
capacity,
absent
funding
contribution.
I
see.
B
D
B
E
B
B
We
had
a
independent
committee
that
looked
at
various
things.
I've
had
department
heads
periodically,
walking
up
and
down
the
street
to
make
them
fix
things
and
make
improvements.
It's
there's
always
more.
You
can
do,
but
I
I
feel,
like
we've,
made
a
very
good
faith
effort
over
the
last
year
and
meg
thompson
has
been
doing.
I
think,
a
terrific
job,
but
I
mean:
can
you
always
do
better
and
more
sure.
D
So
three,
mr
mayor,
so
yes
so
councilman,
so
what
they
would
specifically
use.
The
city
contribution
for
would
be
to
take
on
and
continue
to
do,
a
holiday
plan
for
king
street
so
holiday
lights.
This
year,
the
the
cva
has
come
forward
with
some
resources
for
the
street,
with
the
the
palm
trees
and
the
joy
signs
and
some
other
stuff,
but
in
future
years
that
would
be
taken
over
by
the
bid.
D
But
it
would
be
folks
that
would
be
on
the
street
that
can
call
the
police
if
there
is
a
situation
who
can
report
problems,
code
issues
broken
blue
stone
things
like
that
that
are
out
there
on
a
regular
basis
and
can
serve
as
in
an
ambassador
capacity
if
you
would
with
the
community.
So
those
would
be
the
two
things
that
they
would
be
using
the
city
funding
for,
and
those
would
be
things
in
a
dish
that
are
in
addition
to
anything.
The
city
is
currently
doing
out
there
on
king
street.
E
D
Again
in
these
bids,
there's
usually
a
a
group
again,
it's
not
they
sometimes
they're
called
ambassadors,
sometimes
they're
down
called
downtown
explorers.
They
are
much
more
of
a
of
a
kind
of
eyes
on
the
sidewalk
kind
of
thing:
they're,
not
public
safety
officers,
so
they're,
not
they
don't
have
any
policing
powers
or
authority.
In
that
context,
they're,
not
code
enforcement,
because
the
or
or
livability
officers
they
do
not
again.
They
don't
write
tickets
and
mostly
our
livability.
D
You
know
they
are
stretched
and
they're
doing
more
complaint
driven
stuff.
These
folks
would
actually
be
out
there
helping
people
find
their
way
to
the
shops
and
everything
else
pointing
out
directions
when
people
are
looking
a
little
lost
things
like
that
again,
not
a
city
program.
This
would
be
the
bid
program
that
would
be
handling
this.
This
would
not
be
a
city
program.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
the
bid
would
one
of
the
services
that
they
would
go
forward
with
if
they,
if
the
bid
is
approved
and.
A
D
B
So
so
having
those
eyes
on
the
street
is
important
and
be
it
helping
someone
along
their
way
or
guiding
them
or
noting
that
some
trash
needs
to
be
picked
up
or
noting
that
a
homeless
individual
needs
some
assistance
finding
his
way
to
our
navigation
center.
Or
you
know
what
whatever
is
happening
on
the
street.
B
D
D
Mr
mayor,
yes,
sir,
so
this
this
sounds
all
fine
and
dandy.
But
if
we're
going
to
spend
money
more
money
on
downtown
king
street,
where
is
the
money
we
will
be
serving
in
west
ash?
I
mean
there
are
corridors
of
saint
rittenberg
boulevard
that
need
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
the
beautification
and
we've
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
at
our
revitalization
commission
meetings,
but
there's
certain
areas
along
that
four
door:
certain
areas
along
old
town,
road,
there's
certain
areas
around
san
andreas
boulevard.
D
But
but
here
we
have
an
opportunity
to
create
an
environment
along
some
of
these,
these
these
strips
of
commercial
activity,
to
generate
what
you
have
described
as
for
holiday
shopping,
for
improvements
to
make
this
more
attractive
and
and
boost
some
of
the
businesses
in
west
ashland.
I
mean
I,
I
just
thought
the
councilmember
gregory's
point
about
you
know.
Are
we
duplicating
something
that
already
exists?
B
Your
point
is
well
taken,
but
let
me
remind
you
that
the
business
improvement
district
is
mostly
funded
by
the
property
owners
and
boy.
If,
if
the
avondale
business
owners
wanted
to
form
a
business
improvement
district,
that
would
be
great
and
they
they
can
organize
and
work
with
us
and
do
the
same.
B
B
Then
there's
a
separate
issue
once
they
do.
That
is,
is
the
city
willing
to
chip
in
it's
a
little
bit
into
the
till
as
well
at
per
their
request?
You
don't
have
to
you
could
say
well
gee
we're
we're
not
going
to
do
that
until
we
do
some
wes
ashley.
I
don't
know
you
can
make
that
argument,
but
the
the
concept
of
the
the
district
itself-
I
I
don't
want
to,
I
think,
is
a
good
one.
B
I
think
it's
one
that
our
central
business
district
frankly
has
needed
for
a
long
time
and
it
brings
more
investment
from
our
property
owners
and
business
owners.
It
brings
adds
more
stake
to
the
game,
so
to
speak
on
how
everything
looks
and
operate
so
in
the
long
run.
I
think
it's
a
good
thing
to
do.
Then
it's
a
separate
decision,
whether
we
as
council
want
to
add
add
some
other
city
funds
for
their
request
to
to
that
budget.
B
D
Mayor,
I
I
agree
with
that
and
I
think
that's
that's
an
important
distinction,
but
I
don't
think-
and
maybe
this
is
something
we
need
to
talk
about
next
week
when
we
have
our
revitalization
commission
meeting,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
have
a
little
bit
of
a
push
to
make
sure
that
we
try
to
organize
these
kind
of
bids.
These
vids
in
these
west
ashes
west
actually
areas.
I
left
at
avondale.
My
apologies
to
the
avondale
folks,
but
I
think
that
that
is
a
good.
F
D
C
Yeah,
I
just
I
mean
I-
I
totally
agree
that
there
are
other
areas
and
you
know
other
parts
of
our
city
that
could
definitely
benefit
from
having
some
sort
of
improvement.
District.
You
know
folly
road
is
the
rethink,
folly
road
corridor
and
that's
an
opportunity.
I
know
I
don't
know
legally.
Can
we
create
a
business
district
that
goes
across
the
jurisdictions,
but
we
can
each
do
our
own.
Just
like
we've
done
the
folly
road
overlay,
zoning
and
the
steering
committee
where
we
share
resources
to
put
in
the
bike
and
new
bike
and
ped
pass.
C
So
I
would,
I
would
definitely
encourage
everyone
to
go
along
on.
Let's
see
how
many
of
these
we
can
do.
I
just
have
one
simple
question
for
the
money
that
is
currently
being
asked
for
by
the
king
street
bed,
so
is
that
250
000
found
anywhere
in
the
in
the
staff
suggested
budget,
or
are
we
starting
with
the
new
number
that
would
have
to
be
added
on
today?.
B
B
So
let
me
move
ahead
then,
to
the
biggest
section
of
this
meeting,
the
general
fund
discussion,
starting
with
the
departmental
requests,
and
we
have
a
slide
here
for
for
each
department,
but
as
an
overview
as
as
it
says
here
when
we
last
met,
there
was
a
19
million
dollar
deficit
and
that
included
all
the
requests
considered.
Mandatory
life
safety
and
high
priority,
and
our
budget
and
finance
folks
and
and
others
went
through
all
the
additional
requests
and
they
they
kind
of
re-prioritize,
the
high-priority
ones,
medium
priority
ones.
B
And
then
we
have
a
slide
here
for
every
department.
That
kind
of
summarizes
where
we
are
with
each
department
request,
starting
with
budget
finance
and
revenue.
They
had
a
request.
This
is
an
example,
and
then
each
department
will
follow.
They
had
a
general
fund
base
budget
request
of
8
million
seven.
Sixteen
eight
fourteen,
as
you
can
see,
with
additional
requests
for
next
year
of
87
101.
B
So
after
culling
those
down,
the
budget
recommendation
is
to
approve
53
700
of
the
87,
which
brings
their
total
draft
budget
to
8
million
770.
so
and
the
biggest
requested
increase
is
to
restore
the
professional
services
contract
for
the
performance
assessments
back
to
where
it
was
pre-covered,
so
that
was
50
000
difference
there.
B
B
It
was
modeled
after
the
peak
academy
in
in
denver
and
it's
it's
with
we've
been
involved
and
we
believe
after
we
do
it
for
a
little
while
we'll
be
able
to
do
it
ourselves,
but
the
novak
folks
help
us
set
it
up
and
and
actually
help
run
the
the
classes.
So
that's
just
one
thing:
they've
continued
to
to
look
at
two
or
three
major
departments
or
or
processes
each
each
year
over
the
last
few
years
as
well,
which
have
led
to
improvement.
B
E
B
Yeah,
oh,
I
think
I
can
change
the
slide
here
as
well.
Oh
good,
excuse
me,
I'm
figuring
this
out
so
so
this
includes
continues:
budget
finance
for
the
enterprise
funds
angelo
we're
we're
recommending
their
increase
for
next
year.
Our
traffic
has
increased
greatly
out
there
and
there's
another
slide
on
that
later
on.
So
what
you're
going
to
see
on
a
number
of
these
slides?
So
is
the
fact
that
budget
finance
has
identified
a
number
of
departmental
requests
that
that
we
can
use
our
arpa
funds
to
help
cover
those
expenses.
B
B
B
B
B
We
had
additional
requests
of
8.50
with
670
of
that
being
recommended
by
budget
finance
and
that
560
000
of
our
funds
could
be
used
to
fund
the
water
plan
that
has
been
recommended
by
our
recently
by
our
three
by
three
advisory
committee
and
for
new
cubicles
for
the
municipal
court.
Apparently,
they
will
put
in
like
25
years
ago
when
the
when
the
building
was
built
and
they're
somewhat
shot
and
needed
to
be
replaced.
E
B
E
B
E
E
B
So
that
brings
us
to
the
fire
department.
They
had
a
base
of
41
million
requests
for
6.7
million.
We
considered
1.7
of
that
to
be
mandatory
life
safety.
So
of
the
balance
I
think
we're
recommending
1.4
million
and
then
of
all
the
things
requested
we're
recommending
that
a
million
and
a
half
be
used
from
arpa
funds
for
the
one-time
expenditures.
B
Housing
and
community
development
they
had
a
million
one
in
additional
requests,
we're
only
recommending
332,
so
that
brings
their
budget
to
a
million
five,
and
this
is
that
age-old
issue.
We
try
to
deal
with
it
every
year.
It
seems
to
me
and
we
we
always
seem
to
have
a
challenging
budget
and
never
can
move
all
those
positions
to
the
great
general
fund
that
we
we've
been
using
grant
funds
for
for
those
positions,
but.
E
C
Thanks
you,
you
said
the
words
mayor.
I
was
just
gonna
remind
councilmember
gregory,
it's
all
about
sources
of
revenue
that
qualify
for
general
funding,
and
you
know
this
is
splitting
off
a
little
chunk
of
the
baby,
moving
it
back
into
the
general
fund.
I
do
think
we
do
need
to
make
those
bigger
decisions.
I.
E
D
A
B
D
E
And
over
five
years
over
five
years,
how
much
is
that
and
then
there's
a
broader
question
that
we
need
to
be
responsive
to,
and
that
is
the
limits
on
administer
the
caps
on
administrative
costs.
We
don't
want
to
put
this
division,
okay
in
a
position
where
they're
using
are
going
over
the
administrative
cap
provision.
B
Well,
I
know
gianna
is
very
attentive
to
those
kinds
of
things
and
wouldn't
let
us
get
into
trouble
on
that
and
in
the
meantime,
with
all
respectfully,
we
we've
added
a
lot
of
funding
for
affordable
housing
from
other
places
that
don't
show
up
in
our
general
fund.
So
I
I
guess
you
look
at
the
bigger
picture
of
the
whole
pie
of
funding
that
we've
dedicated
and
it's
it's
been
substantially
more,
even
though
we're
still
funding
these
few
positions
with
with
this
grant
money.
B
E
E
A
B
B
D
B
D
Yeah
and
that's
what
I
meant
but
and
we've
sort
of
abandoned,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
on
the
same
page
with
everybody
else
on
it,
we
we've
abandoned
the
idea
of
making
this
a
full,
12-month
usable
pool.
Because
of
some
of
those
issues
I
mean
some
of
the
problems
are
they're
just
so
expensive,
we're
getting
to
the
point
of
replacing
it.
This
could
be
much
more
of
a
better
steward
use
of
our
funds
on
this
right.
Okay,.
B
D
B
B
We
have
some
other
issues
with
the
with
the
baseball
park
that
we'll
need
to
talk
about
separately
at
another
time,
their
upgrades
that
they're
saying
are
required
to
to
meet
the
new
major
league
baseball
specifications,
but
that
is
not
in
this
year's
budget
and
we
may
get
to
that
when
we
get
to
accommodations
or
another
budget
or
maybe
next
year
we
haven't
gotten
a
full
request
from
them.
Yet
mayor
we
haven't
gotten
a
full
request,
yet
we.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Yeah
so,
and-
and
this
was
another
another
example
of
that,
so
I'm
just
going
to
keep
moving
unless
y'all
have
a
question:
the
public
service
department.
Similarly,
an
18
million
dollar
budget
requested
almost
a
million
in
additional
funding
and
we're
recommending
almost
400
of
that
136
can
come
out
of
arpa
funds.
B
A
B
B
C
C
B
In
the
meantime,
you
know
we
have
our
line
item
of
savings
from
positions
that
aren't
filled
100
of
the
time.
Employee
savings,
in
fact,
you'll
see
in
just
a
few
minutes
we're
going
to
up
that
number
from
the
savings
that
we
get
substantially
for
next
year,
which
we
think
is
justified,
but
that
just
falls
into
that
when
you
have
a
position,
that's
not
occupying
for
a
little
while.
B
Similar
kind
of
thing,
so
their
budget
number
goes
up
from
24
million
to
24
3
a
little
bit
of
arpa
funds
to
buy
some
equipment.
I
must
admit:
I'm
reading
this
one
for
the
first
time
restore
overtime,
another
vehicle
we're
adding
a
barnacle
car
immobilizers
to
to
replace
our
boots.
I
don't
know
if
y'all
have
seen
a
barnacle
yet,
but
it
sucks
down
on
your
windshield,
so
you
can't
see
and
disables
the
use
of
the
vehicle
and
it's
easy
to
remove.
D
F
A
B
So
this
is
more
of
the
of
a
summary
of
where
we
stand
and
at
the
last
meeting
and
that
that
included
the
19
million
dollar
deficit
included
our
employee
increase
of
cost
of
living
increase
in
and
and
get
getting
our
minimum
wage
up.
Isn't
that
right,
matt
when
we
had
the
deficit
at
19
million?
So
these
are
the
major
adjustments,
speaking
of
which
we
we
increased
our
budget
for
parking
revenue
up
by
almost
a
million
and
a
half,
we
increase
our
revenue
projection
for
building
inspection
revenues,
400
000
we've
been
raising
fees
there.
B
We
increased
tnt
revenues
because
we
added
some
fees
there.
That's
a
hundred
thousand.
We
increase
our
business
license
revenues
by
200
000.
That's,
of
course,
a
projection,
but
based
on
how
this
year
is
done
better
than
what
we
had
projected.
We
think
that's
very
reasonable,
similar
or
that
not
similar,
but
we
have
an
increase
in
tourism
funds
transfers
and
I
think
that's
from
an
expectation
that
our
accommodations
and
hospitality
funds
are
going
to
do
better
than
what
we
were
thinking
just
until
recently.
B
Well,
we
increased
our
projection
for
franchise
fees
revenue.
This
was
the
thing
I
mentioned
a
minute
ago
that
we
doubled
our
salary
savings
to
6
million.
It
was
3
million
before
so.
That's
in
essence
of
a
savings
of
3
million
and
and
some
of
that
projection
is
based
on
the
conversations
we've
had
about
filling
positions
and
our
turnover
rate
frankly,
but
it
does
turn
out
to
be
savings
to
us
and
then
all
through
these
department
summaries
I've
been
mentioning
the
arpa
fund,
so
total.
B
We
would
recommend
using
about
4.7
million
of
arpa
funds
to
cover
some
of
these
departmental
budgets,
and
so,
in
effect,
that
makes
a
savings
and
then
some
other
adjustments
of
of
a
mere
210
000..
So
we
have
a
new
shortfall
rather
than
19
million
we're
only
eight
million
dollars,
short
hallelujah,
so
we're
getting
there.
C
At
the
salary
savings
that
were,
unfortunately,
I
think
confident
that
it
could
go
as
high
as
six
million
of
un
filled
positions
or
are
we?
Are
we
eliminating
any
of
those
positions?
Are
we?
You
know
like
re-thinking
efficiencies
for
positions,
because
for
every
every
unspent
position,
salary
dollar,
we
have
employees
that
are
trying
to
make
up
for
the
work.
So
I
I
really
think
that
we
should
continue
to
hold
that
thought.
C
You
know
in
the
very
front
of
our
minds
that
we
can't
just
say:
oh
goody,
we
get
to
save
six
million
dollars,
we
have
to
say
we
have
six
million
dollars
with
the
salaries
for
positions
that
are
not
helping
out
the
city's
needs,
unless
we've
figured
out
ways
that
some
of
those
positions
have
now
been.
You
know,
subsumed
by
other
efficiencies
or
other
cross-cutting
ventures
that
we
have
with
private
public
entities,
or
things
like
that.
C
So
I
I
I
know,
that's
not
a
mainstream
budget
topic,
but
certainly
I
would
appreciate
maybe
having
the
human
resources
committee
take,
that
up,
and
maybe
you
know
with
some
of
the
other
departments
where
the
where
the
position
vacancies
are
as
as
dire
as
we
were
told
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
because
I
do
think
that
that's
something
that
we
need
to
really
be
responsible
to
to
look
into
the
future.
And
how
are
we
going
to
be
positioning
people
to
work
well
in
our
city.
B
I
must
say
I
was
a
little
uplifted
that
my
meeting
with
matt
and
tom
o'brien
the
other
day
that
they
had
12
different
positions
in
public
service
that
that
they
actually
recently
got
decent
applicants
and
they've
they're
moving
them
on
through
the
system
that
there
were
a
few
truck
drivers
and
other
workers.
So,
for
whatever
reason
it
seems
like
just
in
the
last
couple
weeks,
we've
start
started
finding
some
folks,
but
for
the
most
part,
these
are
not
positions
that
are
considered
excess
that
we
want
to
get
rid
of.
B
We
want
to
hold
them
open
and
honestly,
this
is
a
line
item
that
I
think
we've
been
pretty
conservative
on
in
prior
years
in
our
budgeting
that
we
actually
save
a
good
bit
more
than
three
million
dollars
every
year
as
a
as
as
a
general
rule,
and
it
ends
up
helping
us.
I
guess
when
we
balance
the
books,
but
just
given
circumstances
what
they
are
right
now
we
we
think
it's
prudent
and
and
reasonable
to
to
say
in
2022
that
they
will
have
six
million
dollars
worth
of
salary
savings.
A
E
B
I
I
feel
we
have
council
member
by
the
nature
of
this
whole
process,
where,
in
fact,
every
department
is
asking
for
more
money
than
and
we're
recommending
to
you,
so
that
that
included
the
scrutiny
almost
like
a
zero-based
process.
Where
you
look
at
all
the
expenditures
of
the
department
and
recommend
those
that
we
feel
are
appropriate
to
keep.
B
B
You
could
not
fund
any
high
priority
items,
but
that
would
include
things
like
restoring
the
overtime
that
was
removed
or
adding
any
new
positions
and
the
ones
that
we're
adding,
I
think
are
are
very
been
scrutinized
and,
I
think,
are
more
than
reasonable
to
proceed
with.
For
example,
we
really
feel
like
we
need
another
outreach
person
to
help
deleah
with
the
homeless
in
our
community
and
helping
move
them
to
a
better
place.
B
G
Yes,
mayor
and
those
right
now
are
included
in
the
high
priority.
So
if
we
choose
not
to
do
the
high
priority,
those
positions
would
stay
as
grant
funded
and
not
move
into
the
general
fund
that
we
were
talking
about.
Previously.
We
try
to
make
sure
everyone
was
aware
of
that.
We
know
those
are
big
things
for
everyone,
so
that
would
be
the
330.
B
E
A
G
Yes,
by
department,
when
each
department
submitted
their
request,
they
numbered
them
and
we
didn't
it
can
be
based
on
what
their
needs
were.
Whether
or
not
you
know
high
priority
could
actually
turn
into
a
life
safety
immediately
pulled
out.
It
left
a
certain
number
of
things,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
you
know.
Sometimes
it's
a
dollar
amount.
Sometimes
it's!
G
You
know
how
many
things
I
don't
want
to
say
that
we
did
one
two
and
three
for
everybody,
because
one
for
somebody
could
have
been
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
where
one
two
and
three
four
five
and
six
could
have
been
100
somebody
else.
It
just
kind
of
it
kind
of
varied.
We
looked
at
what
we
viewed
and
had
in
conversations
with
the
department
what
they
thought
their
highest
parties
be
just
outside
of
life
safety
that
we
really
need
to
have
or
want
to
have
the
function
in
this
next
year,
as
best
as
we
possibly
can.
B
E
E
D
B
Yeah
and
then
you
add
the
enterprise
funds
transfers
in
so
this
correlates
to
the
previous
slide,
where
it
says
if
you
cut
these
high
priority
items,
you'd
end
up
with
a
deficit
of
3.8
million.
So
you
see
you
see
that
at
the
bottom
right
hand
side,
but
the
three
point.
So
this
is
how
we
would
look
if
you
did
this
example
of
cutting
the
high
priority
items.
B
B
The
6.9
million
adds
a
dollar
next
year
and
there's
a
couple
of
different
options
where
we
could
spread
that
out
a
little
more
evenly
or
even
next
year
do
50
cent
for
half
of
the
year
and
another
50
cent
starting
july
1..
So
the
little
different
options
of
that
could
save
us
another
1.9
million
in
one
case
or
up
to
2.6
million.
If
you
did
this
even
spread
of
67
cents
a
year
for
three
years.
B
E
Mayor,
I
think
I
think
that
I
think
that
our
staff
is
our
greatest
asset
as
a
city
and
that
at
some
point,
we've
got
to
show
them.
Okay,
that
we
in
fact
think
that
they
are-
and
I
just
think
extending
it
out-
sends
the
wrong
message
and
somehow
we
need
to
figure
out
how
to
get
folks
to
15
minimum
wage,
which
will
also
kick
up
some
of
the
other
salaries.
Won't
it.
B
Yeah
there's
adjustment
to
to
avoid
what
they
call
compression
and
then
there's
also
a
cost
of
living
increase
included
in
that
6.9
million
and
I'll
point
out
to
you.
That's
that's
why
we've
left
it
in
there
we
we
hadn't,
we
hadn't,
we've
stuck
kept
it
in
there,
all,
along
and
and
even
with
the
6.9
million.
B
C
C
When
we
have
more
revenue,
we
have
more
staff,
you
know
intense
use
of
staff,
so
I
think
this
is
the
year
to
make
the
statement
with
our
money,
limited
though
it
is
to
the
staff
that
they
are
our
biggest
valuable
asset
and
we
do
not
want
to
lose
them.
We
want
to
increase
their
number
and
multiply
multiply
their
capabilities,
so
I
would
definitely
vote
for
the
graduated
plan.
A
D
Mr
mayor,
this
is
this
is
not
taking
into
consideration
any
other
salary
increases.
We
we've
had
discussions
about,
in
particular
our
top
level.
Well,
actually,
from
from
a
to
z
level,
I
would
suspect
increasing
people's
salaries
from
every
angle
and
we've
had
this
discussion
about
we're
losing
folks,
particularly
in
the
stormwater
department.
I
think
the
engineers
has
been
an
issue
because
our
wages
are
our
salary
is
not
up
to
par
with
neighboring
municipalities
in
charleston
county,
so
this
increase
that
we're
talking
about
is
not
addressing
that
at
all.
D
This
is
just
addressing
the
minimum
wage
increase
and
the
cost
of
living
in
the
cost
of
living
increase.
I
understand
that,
but,
but
but
there's
also
this
other
issue
of
staffing,
that
we've
got
to
take
a
hard
look
at
as
to
in
increasing
we've
heard
this
loud
cry
from
several
our
directors
that
they're
losing
people,
because
we're
not
competitive
enough.
B
Yeah
so
so
we
have
had
to
look
council
member
shade
at
some
one-off
positions,
like
engineering
and
stormwater
review
and
have
been
making.
Some
adjustments
has
allowed
with
the
flexibility
we
have
in
our
budget.
Just
from
an
administration
point
of
view.
We
we've
made
some
adjustments
on
on
those
on
those
positions.
E
B
B
So
there's
that's
that's
why
we
we
have
this
adjustment
y'all
we're
trying
to
address
that
in
a
reasonable
fashion,
adding
6.9
million
dollars
if
we
stick
with
the
graduated
plan,
is
the
most
we've
done
that
I
can
recall
since
I've
been
mayor,
isn't
that
right
man
have
we
had
a
cola,
an
adjustment
to
to
to
our
pay
grades
of
this
level
in
the
last
six
years.
I
don't
think
so.
G
B
Thanks
all
right:
well,
let's
keep
moving.
If
we
can
it's
too
late
to
to
have
fee
increases
for
next
year,
but
just
to
let
you
know,
we
we've
been
doing
that
last
few
years
we
we
we
raised
the
building,
inspection
permits
and
fees,
the
trc
fees.
We
raised
their
fees
at
the
golf
course.
We
added
the
public
right
away,
traffic
and
transportation
fees.
B
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
One
of
the
good
I
mean
it
was
a
worthy
of
thought,
questions
and
and
ideas
that
I
I
generated
as
I
was
reconnecting
with
with
voters
over
the
last
month
or
two
that,
like
like,
we
don't
charge
parking
around
our
sports
fields
and
there's
probably
a
lot
of
other
places
where
we
could.
We
could
add
some
sort
of
feed
that
you
know
people
come
from
all
over
to
to
use
our
our
soccer
fields
and
and
baseball
fields
for
regional
play.
C
B
Gotcha,
I
can't
answer
that
question
right.
We'd
have
to
get
back
to
you,
but
I
mean
we
got
that
whole
issue
of
the
parks
wreck,
master
plan
and
excuse
me
for
not
knowing
but
matt
andrew
do
y'all
kathy.
Do
you
all
know
if
the
enterprise
manager
position
got
recommended
in
the
recreation
budget?
I
thought.
E
B
B
B
I
saved
money
this
year
on
my
property
taxes,
and
so
it
caused
me
here
at
the
11th
hour
to
ask
if
we
should
again
consider
using
a
portion
of
our
local
option
sales
tax
credit
which
we
are
legally
allowed
to
do
by
the
state
of
south
carolina.
It
is
a
a
bonafide
way
that
municipalities
fund
themselves
this
town
of
mount
pleasant.
Does
it
the
city
of
north
charleston?
Does
it
the
city
of
columbia?
Does
it
and
it
seems
to
me
we're?
B
B
Is
you
got
to
have
an
ordinance
passed
before
you
can
use
it
in
your
budget
for
next
year,
so
on
the
agenda
you're
getting
this
evening
will
include
the
consideration
of
an
ordinance
that
will
allow
us
to
use
the
local
option
sales
tax
for
part
of
our
revenue
stream
for
next
year.
If
it
doesn't
pass
tuesday,
then
it
won't
be
an
option,
but
I
I
think
it's
a
valid
thing
for
us
to
consider.
B
I
know
some
council
members
consider
it
a
backdoor
tax
increase.
It
would
allow
us
to
not
have
a
millage
increase
if
we
used
a
local
sales
tax
and
it's
legal,
it's
provided
by
state
law.
So
I
think
it's
something
that
that
we
should
consider.
I
don't
know
that
you
want
to
have
a
discussion
about
it
right
now.
B
Maybe
tuesday
is
appropriate.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
back
up,
and
this
next
slide
shows
you.
If
we
use
25
of
what
we
are
allowed,
it
would
generate
2.8
million.
If
we
use
half
of
what
we
are
allowed,
it
would
generate
5.9
million,
and
if
we
use
all
of
what
we
are
allowed,
it
would
generate
8.8
million,
which
conveniently
would
would
take
care
of
this
shortfall
for
next
year.
But
don't
know
that
I'd
recommend.
B
Just
like
I
saw
on
my
tax
bill,
so
I
invite
you
all
to
if
you
got
the
notice
from
the
county
recently
to
pull
out
your
tax
bill,
that
you
got
a
week
or
two
ago
and
compare
it
to
last
year
and
see
see
what
it
looks
like
on
your
on
your
end.
But
anyway,
this
is
a
possibility
to
to
kind
of
balance
that
shortfall
and
then
we're
back
to
millage.
B
G
G
G
C
A
C
B
B
C
B
B
You
know
stretch
the
dollar
increase
next
year
into
two
increments
50
cents
on
january
1
and
50
cents
on
july
1
and
save
almost
2
million,
or
you
could
do
that
3
year-
option
where
it's
spread
out
evenly
and
save
2.6
million
next
year.
So
that's
on
the
expenditure
side.
On
the
revenue
side,
we
could
use
some
of
the
lost
t
funds.
As
I
explained
I,
I
don't
think
I'd
recommend
going
over
the
50,
which
would
be
5.9
million,
and
then
you
could
do
a
millage
increase.
B
C
B
B
D
B
B
Well,
you
know
they
they
were
provided
to
us
by
the
federal
government
for
certain
purposes.
You
know
we
used
the
first
round
already.
We
got
a
second
round
coming
next
year.
Just
do
you
do
you
want
to
hold
on
to
some
of
that
for
some
flexible
spending
for
next
year,
as
as
further
needs
present
themselves?
D
If,
if
you
took
by
using
the
arpa
funds,
as
4.2
million,
doesn't
savings,
so
you
close
another
four
million
dollars
deficits
which
you're
looking
at
right
right,
if
you
did
nothing,
if
you
did
nothing
else
and
then,
if
you
added
another,
two
million
by
doing
the
minimum
wage
increase
at
50
cents
every
six
months,
so
now
you're
down
to
another
two
million
dollars
right
deficit-
that's
that's
pretty
close!
That's
pretty
close!
That's
pretty
close!
You.
B
Well,
it's
a
combination
of
arpa
and
some
other
reserves.
I
think
that
maintenance,
reserves
and
other
reserves.
I
don't
know
that
there's
any
particular
downfall,
although
when
you
get
to
next
may
and
it's
and
we
actually
get
the
cash
in
hand.
You
know
you
you've
already
dedicated
it
at
that
point.
Matt.
G
So
a
council
member
shade,
I
think
what
I
what
I
would
point
out
with
those
those
high
priority
items
that
we've
identified
to
use
are
but
funding
for
it's
their
one
time
expenses
and
we're
using
a
one-time
arpa
fund
to
pay
those-
and
I
think
the
scenario
you're
talking
about
is
throwing
another
two
million
dollars
worth
of
arpa
funding
in
to
balance
the
budget.
The
problem
is:
is
you're
using
one-time
revenue
for
at
that
point,
ongoing
expenses.
B
A
B
E
B
E
A
B
E
E
E
B
D
D
G
G
We
can't
I
mean
we,
so
I
mean
as
long
as
they
are
based
on
what
what
tourism
hospitality
accommodations.
It
is
as
long
as
they're
eligible
under
the
law.
That's
where
the
transfer
comes
in
from
the
tourism
funds
to
cover
those
things
in
the
general
fund,
so
they
might
not
necessarily
be
one-time
expenses,
but
you
know
we
do
fund
them
through
tourism
hospitality,
but
we've
identified
some
additional
things
that
we
probably
can
do.
A
G
G
A
E
G
E
F
A
A
F
F
G
F
A
F
F
B
F
B
F
A
Six
1.7
billion
dollars,
but
that
is
strictly
because
our
local
option
revenue
took
such
a
hit
with
the
pandemic,
that
our
tax
credit
factor
had
fallen
substantially
you're,
putting
our
tax
credit,
we're
recommended
to
put
our
cash
credit
factor
back
to
a
higher
amount
based
on
the
increase
in
revenue.
So
we've
lost
revenue
on
the
in
the
property
tax
area
because
of
getting
additional
local
option
sales
tax
revenue,
because
that
growth,
their
growth,
is
back
in
that
local
option
revenue.
Does
that
make
sense?
A
F
Well
not
on
charlie,
and
I
tell
you
why,
because
given
some
of
the
real
estate
sales
that
took
place,
I
guess
last
year
that
would
generate,
I
would
think
more
taxes
this
year.
In
other
words,
if
I,
if
I
had
a
house
that
was
100
000
and
I
sold
it
for
500
000,
that
new
buyer
has
to
pay
taxes
on
that
higher
value,
that's
right
right!
F
A
Not
right
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
I
can't
remember
that
2020
was
the
reassessment
year.
So
that's
when
all
the
values
went
up
so
between
21
and
22
you're,
not
you're.
Just
gonna
have
growth
either
from
new
properties.
Or
you
know.
If
people
did
sell
their
home,
then
it
would.
You
know
they'd
lose
that
15
cal
protection,
so
I
think
our
local
option
revenue
went
up
a
lot
more
than
the
1.6
million
that
it's
that
the
taxes
are
going
down.
The
local
option.
Revenue
went
up.
A
About
six
million
dollars,
so
if
you
take
the
difference
between
the
six
million
dollars
in
local
auction
revenue
that
we
can
get
over
and
above
what
we
got
in
2020,
are
we
estimating
for
2021
and
then
the
the
1.6
million
the
taxes
went
down?
You
can
see
that
the
actual
tax
growth
would
have
been
the
difference
between
those.
So
four
point.
A
B
A
A
C
F
F
If
it
keeps
peaceful
inflation,
it
would
be
down
2.1
million,
or
something
like
that,
which
would
have
the
same
purchasing
power
that
it
had
back
in
1996
or
seven
whenever
that
was
and
a
good
conversation
last
year,
but
we
got
to
nail
that
into
cws's
budget.
So
we
could
have
that
additional
revenue
coming
to
us
in
our
general
fund,
which
is
about
another
million
dollars,
which
would
repeat
itself
that's
before
the
length.
F
F
We
provide
a
large
part
to
growth
to
cws
and
we
take
the
hits.
We
take
the
hits
for
the
high
density.
We
take
the
hits
for
the
growth
on
john's
allen.
We
take
the
heads
for
laurel
island,
but
all
that's
future
growth.
They
can't
have
that
kind
of
growth
without
us
we're
a
team,
but
you
just
can't
do
in
2022,
which
you
could
in
1996
with
a
thousand
with
a
million
ninety
five
dollars.
F
I've
asked
wesley
and
mia
to
use
his
calculations
at
the
rate
of
inflation
from
1996
to
now
to
see
what
that
number
is
just
need
to
circle
back
with
him,
but
we're
about
to
finalize
the
budget
over
there.
So
we
that
would
be
you
know,
amy
would
say,
there's
some
one-time
money.
I
appreciate
that,
but
we
need
to
have
it
dollars
every
peak
and
so.