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City of Charleston Peninsula Perimeter Protection Advisory Committee 7/26/23
A
B
B
I
want
to
start
up
front
just
by
thanking
Haygood,
Morrison
I,
don't
know
if
Hague
is
able
to
join
the
call
this
morning,
but
he's
been
our
fearless
leader
and
champion
of
this
effort
for
the
past
couple
of
years
and
leading
the
way
to
get
this
committee's
heads
wrapped
around
the
project
issues
in
front
of
us
and
also
recommending
and
representing
to
the
city
council,
all
the
outcomes
of
the
committee.
So
having
said
all
that
here
comes
hey
good.
Now,.
C
D
Everybody
sorry,
what's
the
I
think
I
think
I'm
the
only
person
who
didn't
get
the
joke?
What's
what's
going
on
hey.
E
B
D
Oh
well,
so
thank
you.
I
certainly
appreciate
that
and
excited
to
Kevin
excited
to
have
you
have
you
leading
us
and
yeah
looking
forward
to
continuing
progress.
B
Thanks
thanks
a
good
and
thanks
for
sticking
around
on
the
committee,
and
that
extends
to
all
of
you,
we'll
we'll
get
some
introductions
under
the
way,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
the
two
council
members
who
support
this
committee
are
all
going
to
be
patching
in
today,
but
I
want
to
acknowledge
and
recognize
and
thank
the
leadership
of
council
members.
B
Keith
Waring
and
Mike
seekings
I
also
want
to
thank
the
city
staff
that
are
present
on
this
call,
so
Dale
Morris,
the
chief
resilience
officer
of
the
City
of
Charleston
and
Kayla
Casella,
who
is
the
special
projects
manager
and
supports
Dale
and
all
the
resilience
activities,
not
sure
if
Morgan's
going
to
join
the
call,
but
Morgan
goonlock
from
the
city's
Design
Center
is
also
an
integral
part
of
this
process.
Moving
forward
so
I
appreciate
the
support
of
both
the
council
members,
as
well
as
the
city
staff.
B
We
do
have
two
new
members
of
the
advisory
committee
to
introduce
and
welcome
today.
So
first
is
BD
Wortham
Galvin,
some
of
you,
many
of
you
probably
know
BD
and
her
role
at
Clemson
overseeing
really
the
master
of
urban
resilient
design
programming
there
in
the
School
of
Architecture
and
she's
located
in
the
cigar
Factory
at
the
design
center
and
is
a
prominent
voice
in
resilience.
Conversations
around
the
community,
so
BD
welcome.
B
And
then
also
Brandon
Markland,
who
is
a
resident
of
the
city's
east
side
and
Brandon
I,
think
you
also
participate
in
another
sustainability
committee
with
the
city
and
appreciate
you
standing
up
and
supporting
this
Civic
effort
as
well.
No
problem
good
morning.
Thank
you.
Everyone
I
think
for
the
benefit
of
our
new
committee
members.
B
It
might
be
helpful
just
a
quick
round
of
introductions
or
reintroductions,
maybe
just
since
everybody's
screen
looks
differently,
I'll
prompt
you
all,
but
just
so
that
they
know
who
the
faces
are
and
who
has
been
unfolded
in
this
effort
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
I'm
Kevin,
Mills
I'm,
the
CEO
of
the
South
Carolina
Aquarium,
and
to
my
right,
maybe
not
on
your
screen,
I
see
Jack.
So
Jack.
Do
you
mind
introducing
yourself.
G
Yeah
hi
I'm
Jack
Cleveland
I
work
with
the
Charleston
neighborhood
association
on
their
committee
about
flooding
and
water
management
and
I've
joined
only
this
committee.
Only
about
a
year
ago.
H
One
day,
nobody
can
hear
me
excuse
me
good
morning,
everyone,
hello,
Kevin,
hey
I'm,
her
big
Mike
I
am
a
member
of
the
Rose
Mountain
neighborhood
association
and
I've,
been
a
member
of
the
Seawall
committee
from
prior
from
the
beginning
and
glad
to
be
back
glad
to
see
the
faces
from
before
and
hopefully
we'll
have
a
continued
successful
Journey.
B
Thanks
Herbert
Susan.
I
Hi
I'm
Susan
Lyons
I,
chair
Groundswell,
which
is
a
Grassroots
group
of
local
residents,
worried
about
flooding
and
I,
have
been
on
this
committee
for
two
years
and
I'm
delighted
to
be
back
and
Welcome
to
our
new
chairman,
and
we
need
to
forge
ahead
because
we're
in
interesting
times.
So
thanks
thanks.
A
Good
morning,
Jordy
Yarbrough
with
the
South
County
Ports
Authority,
among
other
things,
I
oversee
our
local
government
engagement
I've,
been
on
the
committee
since
since
conception.
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman
for
your
willingness
to
to
take
the
reins
here
and
thank
you
to
Hagood
for
getting
us.
This
far
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone,
as
we
continue
with
this
important
project,
thanks
shorty.
B
F
Good
morning,
everyone
cash
in
jolay
with
historic,
Charleston,
Foundation
I've,
been
on
this
committee
since
it
was
formed
and
and
the
historic
preservation
representative
on
the
committee.
Thank
you,
Haygood
for
your
service,
as
our
in
our
first
few
years
of
getting
organized.
We've
certainly
accomplished
a
lot
under
your
leadership
and
looking
forward
to
working
with
you,
BD
I,
know,
but
Brandon
I,
don't
I
look
forward
to
getting
to
know
you.
C
C
Now
we
are
on
the
perimeter,
protection
and
so
Kevin,
obviously
very
glad
to
see
you
serving,
as
chairman,
obviously
want
to
thank
Dale
and
Kailyn
and
team
for
what
they
did
over
the
past
two
years
and
very
excited
to
see
where
this
committee
takes
us
with
respect
to
the
perimeter.
Protection
and
I
know
Dale
trying
to
get
us
into
ped.
B
Fantastic
Mike
I
just
saw
your
note,
I
hope,
you're
flying
somewhere
to
cooler,
climbs
and
you're,
not
able
to
communicate
but
you're
able
to
patch
in
so
thanks
for
joining
us
council,
member
and
Rick.
Would
you
like
to
say
hello.
E
Yes,
good
morning,
Rick
Anderson
Medical
University
of
South
Carolina,
representing
the
Medical
District
I've,
been
on
the
committee
about.
E
Taking
over
for
Dennis
Frazier
as
he
was
original
member
for
I
have
a
three
by
three
as
he's
based
towards
I,
think
closer
to
Total
retirement,
rather
than
put
partial
retirement,
have
areas
at
the
University
like
facilities
of
police
and
parking,
and
all
the
film
stuff
like
that.
That
that
are
severely
impacted
by
anything
that
happens
on
the
Minnesota
great.
B
Thanks
Rick,
so
just
a
couple
of
housekeeping
notes.
As
Kayla
mentioned
this,
this
session
is
being
recorded
and
broadcast
via
YouTube.
B
This
committee
is
typically
adhered
sort
of
lightly
to
the
Roberts
Rule
of
Order,
particularly
when
it
comes
to
votes
and
motions.
So
we'll
do
that
when
it's
appropriate,
otherwise
we'll
probably
follow
the
zoom
architecture
and
just
for
the
ease
of
things
to
make
sure
that
I
can
see
everybody.
That
has
something
that
wants
to
say.
If
you
can
use
the
chat
feature
or
put
your
hand
up,
that
would
be
helpful
and
it'll
cue
you
up
to
to
speak
next.
B
I
just
wanted
to
observe
that,
even
though
the
faces
are
largely
the
same,
but
this
committee,
our
assignment,
has
changed
somewhat
so
you'll
see
a
new
name,
in
fact,
for
the
committee.
It's
the
peninsula
perimeter
protection
advisory
committee
and
that's
just
simply
reflects
the
fact
that
we're
now
officially
in
the
PED
phase,
the
pre-construction
engineering
and
design
phase,
the
general
skier
of
the
committee
is
law
largely
the
same.
It's
to
first
of
all,
keep
our
public
and
our
constituents
informed
of
the
negotiations,
conversations
and
now
the
real
Earnest
planning.
B
That's
underway,
it's
also
to
make
sure
that
the
project
aligns
with
the
interest
of
the
city
in
protecting
people
and
property
along
the
way
and
ensuring
that
we
bring
best
practices
to
Bear.
So
part
of
the
role
of
committee
is
to
look
across
the
landscape
to
see
what's
happening
in
other
communities.
That
may
suggest
best
practices
that
could
fit
and
be
appropriate
for
the
unique
characteristics
and
qualities
of
Charleston.
B
B
B
It
has
called
for
the
integration
of
natural
and
nature-based
features
that
are
now
really
Central
to
the
planning
moving
forward.
It's
requested
and
recommended
additional
Staffing
for
Dale
and
his
team,
Dale
and
Kalyn,
or
a
lean
mean
team
that
have
a
lot
of
work
that
transcends
and
extends
far
beyond
this
particular
project.
So
the
deeper
we
get
into
this
I
know
they're,
going
to
be
additional
resources
that
will
be
necessary
and
welcome.
From
their
perspective.
B
One
of
the
critical
things
I
think
that
the
committee
landed
on
early
is
that
this
work
can't
have
in
a
vacuum.
It
needs
to
be
integrated
into
a
larger,
comprehensive
water
plan,
which
is
happening
so
again
tribute
to
the
committee,
but
also
to
the
city,
to
Dale's
leadership
for
ensuring
that
that
moves
forward,
one
of
the
things
and
Herbert.
Thank
you
for
your
leadership
on
this.
Recognizing
that
the
Rosemont
Community
has
some
different
needs
and
different
vulnerabilities.
B
This
committee
recommended
that
there
be
a
specific
resilience
plan
for
that
neighborhood.
That
was
served
as
well
as
we
look
at
all
the
other
factors
around
the
peninsula
and
so
that
that
works
taking
place
in
Earnest
and
there's
now
grant
funding
to
support
that,
and
so
it's
moving
forward
and
then
finally,
there's
been
the
recommendation
in
working
with
the
Army
Corps
to
realign
the
East
Side,
still
to
be
determined
in
the
pet
phase.
B
Exactly
what
that
looks
like,
but
a
recognition
that
there
are
some
vulnerable
institutions
in
areas
along
that
way.
That
may
benefit
from
a
redrawing
of
the
line
on
the
east
side.
So
it's
a
lot
of
work
that
we've
accomplished
together
as
a
team
I
would
encourage
everyone,
as
we
move
forward,
to
think
about
things
that
may
be
missing.
The
PED
phase
will
be
substantially
different
in
character
and
content
than
what
we've
just
gone
through.
B
So
it'll
be
important
for
us
to
think
about
how
this
committee
can
continue
to
serve
the
publics
that
we
all
represent,
so
that
that's
a
lot
Dale's
going
to
fill
us
in
on
exactly
where
we
are
in
Ted.
Remind
us
of
some
of
the
the
recent
developments
and
and
also
chart
some
of
the
Milestones
ahead,
but
I'll
pause
and
see.
If
there
are
any
questions
or
comments
before
we
move
on
all
right.
B
Well,
Dale
I
think
that's
your
cue
I
think
we're
all
interested
and
anxious
to
see
what's
right
well,.
J
Good
so
good
morning,
everyone
and
thanks
thanks
all
for
joining
this
morning.
Again
just
a
word
of
thanks
for
me
and
Caitlin
to
pay
good
for
his
hard
work.
He
did
you
know
this
Army,
the
Army
Corps
is
a
difficult
organization
to
understand.
Its
processes
are
complex.
J
They
intervene
for
impact
very
important
and
complex
Urban
environments.
It
is
really
difficult
to
understand
this
and
a
good
step
up
and
dug
in
and
and
try
to
figure
this
out,
so
just
kudos
to
him
and
his
leadership.
For
the
last
couple
years.
J
J
If
we
get
into
bed
I
think
this
committee
is
going
to
play
a
very
important
role
in
guiding
and
helping
to
communicate
in
helping
to
to
to
excuse
me
to
demand
more
for
what
this
project
could
be.
So
it
should
be-
and
things
like
that
and
we'll
talk
about
that
going
forward.
J
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
everyone
an
update
of
where
we
are
reminding
people
where
we
are
Kevin
and
Kate
and
I
discussed
this
yesterday
for
anyone
watching
on
YouTube
citizens
residents
trying
to
they're
just
curious,
where
we
are
just
a
quick
update
for
myself
for
my
part
and
then
be
able
to
take
any
questions.
So
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
here,
yeah
and
tell.
E
B
E
J
Great
so
hold
on
a
second.
They
were
moving
around
in
different
phases
here
too
many
screens,
okay,
good.
So
let
me
back
up
here.
We
started
this
process
just
a
reminder.
We
started
this
process
four
years
ago
in
feasibility
study
for
a
coastal
storm
risk
management
project,
and
the
feasible
study
is
a
three
by
three
by
three
process,
which
is
a
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
method.
To
do
expedited
feasibility
planning
it
used
to
be
that
the
Army
Corps
would
take
10
or
15
years
to
do.
J
A
study
took
too
long
frustrated,
Congress,
frustrated,
Army,
Corps
staff,
that
frustrated
contractors
and
it
frustrated
the
non-federal
sponsor
the
local
sponsors.
The
study
was
taking
too
long,
so
they
developed
this
expedite
in
three
years.
Three
million
dollars
three
levels
of
review
process
started
in
2014..
J
Our
project
feasibility
study
followed
that
process
three
by
three
by
three.
In
fact,
because
of
the
Eis
that
was
needed
and
because
of
the
realignment
that
Kevin
mentioned,
we
can
talk
about,
it
was
actually
for
almost
a
four-year
and
four
million
dollars,
but
three
levels
of
review
process
started
in
April
2018
had
a
tsp
sort
of
the
sort
of
the
first
look
at
what
the
Army
Corps
was
recommended
in
April
of
2020
public
comments,
suggesting
hey,
add,
more
nature-based
features
or
or
on
systems
in
the
alignment
isn't
cool.
J
Can
we
change
it
and
let's
do
an
environmental
impact
statement,
not
just
environmental
analysis
that
was
done
and
a
year
later,
the
Eis?
Sorry,
a
couple
months
later,
the
Eis
effort
was
approved
by
Army
Corps.
To
do
that
that
takes
eight
or
ten
months.
J
They
did
that
and
at
the
same
time,
City
and
other
private
funders
supported
a
forensic
look
at
the
Army
Corps
tsp
by
a
group
of
experts,
primarily
some
of
the
folks
in
the
duck
style
I've
seen
and
as
you
all
recog
was
part
of
that,
because
I
was
still
with
the
water
Institute
in
September
2021.
J
J
The
report
was
Final
City.
The
mayor
signed
the
official
documents
to
request
funding
for
this
from
Congress.
The
army,
of
course,
ended
up
the
chain
of
command
for
review,
so
that's
both
Division
and
Atlanta
and
headquarters
in
Washington,
and
the
chase
report
was
finalized
in
June
that
was
submitted
to
Congress
Congress,
considered
it
last
summer
and
fall
and
in
the
on
the
bus
bill
that
funded
the
government
and
closed
on
the
last
Congress.
J
Instead
of
22
2022,
the
project
was
authorized
and
ped
phase
one
was
funded
with
an
appropriation.
So
what
happens
after
that
is
once
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
district
in
Charleston
gets
the
green
light
from
headquarters,
because
the
authorization
and
appropriation
has
impaired
the
city
and
the
Army
Corps
have
to
negotiate
a
design
agreement.
J
The
Army
Corps
of
Juniors
has
a
standard
template
design
agreement.
They
want
everyone
to
sign.
As
you
recall,
we
had
some
demands
that
we
wanted
to
pursue
and
ped,
and
so
that
requires
us
to
make
sure
that
the
design
agreement
that
governance
fed
is
appropriate
to
achieve
those
goals
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
So
ped
as
an
effort
is
in
four
phases:
they're
they're
physical
phases,
phase
one
is
sort
of
from
The
Citadel
down
to
the
coast
guard
station
phase
two
will
be
the
batteries
base.
J
J
If
and
as
we
move
into
bed
phase
one
but
phase
three
may
be
more
appropriate
because
the
batteries
are
already
there,
and
maybe
we
ought
to
try
to
get
some
additional
design
for
the
East
Side
and
then
keep
in
mind
that
head
cannot
start
unless
there
is
a
signed
design
agreement
so
that
both
parties
agree
to
that
and
the
city
provides
its
cashier
city.
Council
will
have
the
sale
in
that.
It's
important
to
understand
that
that
nothing
can
move
forward.
J
J
So
that's
sort
of
the
overall
process
of
where
we've
been
so
A
lot's
been
done,
but
there's
a
lot
more
to
do
the
next
just
to
remind
here
what
it
was
is
so
an
eight-mile
storm
surge
structure
at
12
foot
nav-d-88,
that's
a
vertical
datum
that
is
not
12
foot
above
land,
because
the
lowest
part
of
the
peninsula
is
around
three
and
a
half
feet
a
little
bit
under
four
feet
at
land
automation.
J
The
top
height
of
this
structure
would
be
at
about
an
eight
foot
a
little
bit
over
eight
foot,
so
the
lowest
parts
of
the
peninsula
land,
the
structure
of
height,
will
be
about
eight
feet.
Most
of
the
structure
height
is
much
less
than
that.
The
tenant
alignment
is
all
on
is
all
on
public
property,
except
for
the
Port
Properties,
but
we
have
their
collaboration
to
move
forward
with
that
new
Army
Corps
did
add
some
nature-based
features.
There
are
10
pumps
that
are
part
of
this
feasibility
recommendation.
J
Those
pumps
are
needed
to
manage
impounded
storm
water
and
over
top
surge
water.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
The
cost
the
original
costs
of
the
tsp,
the
first
TSB,
was
at
1.8
billion
dollars.
The
optimized
tsp
cost
was
1.1
billion
dollars
after
the
final
realignment
and
some
other
changes,
and
after
the
economists
at
the
Army
Corps
adjusted
the
cost
estimate
of
1.1
for
inflation
plus
right
now
is
1.3
billion
dollars
at
Cost.
J
That's
total
cost
cost
will
be
shared
65.35
between
the
federal
government
and
local
government
and
the
local
government,
because
we
will
be
providing
land
and
space
for
this
structure.
We
will
get
credit
for
the
value
of
those
things,
and
so
the
estimated
again
we
will
do
this
in
Pad,
but
right
now
the
estimated
value
of
those
credits
is
130
to
160
million
dollars.
So
our
net
cost
right
now
sort
of
in
2023
dollars
is
around
280
million
dollars
again.
This
would
be
designed
and
built
over
10
years.
J
So
it's
a
lot
of
money,
but
on
a
you
break
it
down
on
a
year-to-year
basis.
It
is
something
that
is
likely
affordable.
Our
benefit,
cost
ratio
is
10.8
to
1..
I,
say
that,
because
again,
this
is
the
highest
benefit:
cost
ratio
for
a
project
of
its
kind
with
the
Army
Core
engineers
in
the
nation.
So
there
is
a
strong
desire
to
do
this
project
because
it
provides
such
a
high
return
on
the
investment,
and
it
is
actually
a
proxy
for
how
much
risk
there
is,
and
just
as
an
aside
I'll
alert
you
all.
J
The
mayor
and
city
council
have
asked
me
to
give
a
presentation
to
city
council
at
the
August
15th
meeting
CD
council
meeting
I
will
do
that
and
that
will
explain
some
of
these
hazards
and
risks
that
we're
facing
and
how
this
structure
may
help
us
do
that.
So
our
goal
is
to
Divine
the
design
and,
if
successful
there
construct
the
structure
that
is
acceptable
to
Charleston
so
acceptable
to
charge
Charleston
with
the
federal
government
paying
65
percent.
Of
that
that's
65
right
now
is
about
830
million
dollars.
It's
not
something.
J
We
should
pause
and
sort
of
refuse
right
away.
It's
a
lot
of
money
for
infrastructure
investment
and
we
can
achieve
other
things
with
that
money.
So
if
you
recall,
when
the
report
was
finalized,
the
mayor
sent
a
letter
to
the
Army
Corps
District
Commander
here
in
Charleston
and
said
you
know
what
we're
going
to
move
forward.
J
We
want
you
guys
to
get
this
project
authorized
by
Congress.
We
have
some
clear
design
goals,
including
the
ones
listed
here,
and
the
bullets
on
the
left
hand
side
of
the
slide.
So
there
are
some
alignment
challenges
up
at
Johnson,
Street
by
Morrison
yards
on
Concord
through
the
east
side
and
on
Lockwood
those
things
will
be
addressed
in
ped
and
they
can
be
interested
in
paid.
J
We
need
to
reduce
the
number
of
gates
and
crossings
and
by
improving
the
alignment.
If
the
fact
that
we
can
reduce
the
number
of
gates
and
crossings,
which
may
in
fact
reduce
the
cost
of
the
project,
because
it's
cheaper
to
build
a
simple
line
of
protection
rather
than
complex,
skates
and
and
motors
to
move
the
gates
and
all
that
stuff
again,
no
instructional
for
Rosemont
and
Bridgeview.
We
have
a
resilience
plan
and
I'll
talk
about
that.
J
We're
done
the
Army
Corps
added
some
natural
nature-based
features
in
the
optimize
plan,
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers.
They
have
agreed
to
start
head
here
with
a
focus
on
natural
nature-based
features
and
see
what
more
we
can
add
into
those
and
just
to
decide
the
water
plan
team
is
thinking
about
this
too.
We
have
a
unique
opportunity,
the
historical
and
cultural
mou
that
is
part
of
the
project.
J
It's
the
first
of
its
kind
in
the
nation,
because
this
is
the
first
time
the
Army
Corps
has
been
doing
design
work
in
an
area
of
such
historical
and
cultural
significance.
So
there's
this
visual
resource
assessment
plan
that
goes
along,
we
will
pursue
in
ped
and
gives
us
an
additional
54
million
dollars
for
more
mitigation
of
the
of
the
impact
for
the
structure
on
the
historic
district.
We
can
talk
about
that.
We
need
to
do
an
over
empowerment
over
topic
analysis
again
impounded
in
over
top
storm
water.
J
We
want
to
do
more
on
interior
hydrologies,
and
can
we
use
the
structure
in
those
pumps
to
help
us
manage
storm
water?
We
want
some
a
system-wide
risk
assessment.
We
need
more
Community
engagement
and
we
said
we
want
to
have
design
management
and
expertise
in
this
contribute
to
this
we
will
not
be
a
passive
actor,
but
we'll
be
in.
You
know,
aggressively
engaged
in
this
process.
J
So
right
now
we
are
negotiating
the
design
agreement
to
achieve
those
goals,
we
will
have
design
Management
in
ped.
It's
important.
It's
a
partnership
of
the
core,
the
core
isn't
the
boss.
We
do
this
together
right
and
if
we
don't
have
success,
we
can
pause
the
project
our
goal.
We
stated
this
I'll
State
again,
it's
a
multi-benefit,
aesthetically,
pleasing
multi-functional
surge
structure
that
can
help
us
manage
tide
and
provide
some
storm
water
management.
We
have
to
do
that.
Hard
working
pay
is.
J
J
We
are
proposing
in
the
design
agreement
that
we
will
that
we,
the
city
and
Consultants
we
will
hire,
will
lead
the
alignment
review
study
which
is
required
and
then
set
the
final
alignment
of
where
the
structure
goes.
So
this
is
how
we
achieve
some
of
those
goals
that
we
just
stated.
We
want
to
lead
the
the
preliminary
design
of
the
surge
structure.
J
J
What
it
looks
like
how
it
functions,
how
people
access
it,
what
it
looks
like
all
those
things,
and
then
we
also
want
to
lead
the
internal
hydrology
aspect
of
ped
to
understand
how
we
can
take
advantage
of
those
pumps
that
they
are
putting
in
to
help
us
ensure
we're
managing
the
impounded
and
over
top
storm
water
or
over
top
third
water,
but
also
how
that
may
help
us
manage
and
improve
our
own
internal
drainage
or
storm
water
system
rainfall
system.
J
Can
we
achieve
tidal
mitigation
with
this
structure?
Yes,
we
can
do.
We
have
to
work
very
clearly
on
this
of
where
and
how
the
title
Gates
that
will
be
part
of
the
structure
within
where
the,
where
the
structure
will
cross
a
few
tidal
Creeks.
At
what
moment
can
we
close
those
Gates?
That
is
something
we
do
in
Pay.
We
set
that
level
once
we
can
close
those
Gates,
we
now
have
a
watertight
Peninsula
to
help
us
manage
massive
or
and
growing
ties.
J
I
will
inform
you
all
if
you
don't
recall
that
in
late
May
or
early
June,
we
did
not
have
a
storm
around.
We
just
had
persistent
Northeast
winds
for
a
couple
days
and
we
had
the
13th
highest
tidal,
surge
on
record.
Without
a
storm
room
is
we
had
C
double
RIS
to
that
those
impacts
will
occur,
so
we
have
to
be
able
to
use
this
structure
to
manage
those.
J
Those
tidal
impacts
and
again
some
of
this
may
require
the
use
of
betterments,
which
means
the
city
will
pay
the
marginal
cost
increase
to
improve
the
function
of
this
structure.
So
the
Army
Corps
will
fund
the
mandatory
requirements
of
it
and
that'll
be
cost
shared
65.35.
But
if
we
need
to
upsize
the
pumps
and
increase
the
wet
well
for
those
pumps
to
store
water
before
the
water
gets
pumped
out
during
a
rain
event
or
during
a
surge
event,
the
marginal
cost
increase
of
the
larger
pump
will
be
on
us.
That
is,
money
well
spent.
J
That
will
be
wanting
money
well
spent
and
will
help
us
achieve
other
important
goals
that
we
need
on
the
east
side
on
the
Upper
East
Side,
and
we
need
in
marlston
village
in
the
lower
sort
of
the
Southwest
part
of
the
peninsula.
The
work
that
we
do
in
this
is
credited
to
our
cost
share,
whether
we
lead
it
or
we
do
it
in
partnership
with
the
Army
Corps,
the
stuff
we're
doing
will
be
credited
to
our
cost
share.
It's
a
lot
of
words.
I
just
gave
you,
but
we
have
very
distinct
goals
here.
J
So
for
those
who
are
wondering
what's
been
going
on,
this
has
been
gone
on.
We
have
been
carefully
talking
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
they've,
been
talking
with
superiors
up
the
chain
of
command,
and
we
have
been
talking
with
outside
experts
and
Consultants
that
are
work
that
have
ideas
of
how
we
can
achieve
our
design
goals
and
that's
what
we're
doing
now.
We
hope
the
design
agreement
would
be
completed
in
the
next
couple
of
months.
J
I
will
let
you
all
know
that
we
had
a
very
positive
meeting
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
on
some
of
this
design
agreement
language.
Just
yesterday
it
was
two
and
a
half
hours
of
good,
give
and
take
with
the
Army
Corps
Engineers,
and
we
achieved
concurrence
or
agreement,
at
least
with
the
District
staff,
on
a
number
of
items.
Still
a
few
items
to
go
through
and
they're
they're
harder,
we're
working.
J
So
that's
where
we
are,
and
I
just
wanted
to
show
these
slides
and
I'm
almost
done
here.
So
here's
your
renovated
low
battery
what's
wrong
with
this
Iran
the
rest
of
the
peninsula,
to
provide
us
with
storm
surge
mitigation,
help
us
manage
tides
and
again,
if
the
pumps
it
would
be
would
be
fired.
Can
we
use
it
to
also
this
hard
Edge
can
use
to
help
us
manage
storm.
Water
here
is
a
graphic
on
the
left.
This
is
something
that
our
design
division
developed
for
us
and
we're
thankful
for
their
creativity.
I
J
Let
me
let.
E
J
J
J
This
image
on
the
right
is
a
mock-up
of
what
a
t-wall
looks
like
this
is
not
so
good.
Their
surge
wall
is
at
16
foot
and
avd
88rs
is
at
12..
This
is
what
it
looks
like,
and
this
is
a
bin
wall.
So
you
get
a
sense
of
what
this
is.
So
this
feels
and
looks
a
lot
like
the
battery
is
what
I
mean
they're
doing
it
in
Norfolk.
We
can
take
advantage
of
this.
I
just
want
to
show
you
this
next
slide.
Tell
me
if
this
advances
did
that
Advance
yeah.
E
J
This
is
a
wonderful
drawing
image
created
by
our
design
division
of
a
bin
wall.
That
is
a
star
structure,
but
you
really
don't
see
the
surge
structure.
It
is
there.
It
is
providing
benefits.
This
is
just
a
lift
in
Joe
Roddy
Waterfront
Park,
but
this
will
provide
us
with
the
protection
we
need
from
storm
surge.
J
This
is
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
the
design
phase
right
we're
not
going
to
take
it
to
you
all,
but
if
we
can
do
this
and
I'm
confident
that
we
can
I
think
it
will
be
a
tremendous
benefit
to
the
city.
So
that's
where
we
are
hope
to
have
the
design
agreement
negotiated
soon.
We
will
provide
that
to
the
city
council
and
ask
them
to
consider
it
and
ask
them
to
find
phase
one
of
bed
and
then
two
other
quick
updates
here.
So
Kevin
mentioned
the
Rosemont
and
Bridgeview
resilience
plan.
J
So
we,
the
resilience
plan,
is
for
both
parts
of
the
peninsula
that
that
were
targeted
for
or
suggested
for,
non-structural
or
home
elevation
benefits
under
the
Army
Corps
project,
the
city,
the
city
agreed
to
do
a
resilience
plan
for
them.
J
The
Low
Country
Alliance
for
model
communities,
which
is
a
regional
environmental
justice
organization
here
in
Charleston,
they
applied
for
additional
grant
funding
from
the
national
official
Wildlife
Foundation
last
year,
that
was
awarded
and
Lansing
is
now
just
waiting.
They
have
to
you
know,
submit
some
more
information,
they're
waiting
for
the
check
to
come,
and
once
that
check
occurs,
we
will
kick
off
this
resilience
plan.
The
water
plan
team
has
already
done
some
work
up
there.
J
We
want
to
do
this
with
the
community
and
with
Ramsey,
so
we're
waiting
for
them
sort
of
to
get
ready
to
go,
and
this
will
be
a
very
important
effort
is
one
other
thing
that
this
Committee
in
its
previous
iteration
recommended
that
the
city
develop
a
conference
water
plan
that
was
funded.
That
project
is
underway.
It's
10
months
in
that
11
or
12
Community
workshops,
a
number
of
meetings
with
experts
talking
with
a
lot
of
different
folks.
The
team
is
now
working
on
its
final
analysis.
There's
a
lot
of
mapping.
That's
been
done.
J
I'll
inform
you
all
that
the
water
plan
is
looking
out
to
2050
for
the
year
2050
and
it
is
assuming
14
inches
of
seat
overrides,
and
this
will
then
inform
the
pilot
projects
that
it's
going
to
recommend
we
go
forward.
We
hope
to
have
this
done
by
the
end
of
the
year.
We
should
have
a
draft
in
the
fall,
assuming
everything
goes
forward,
but
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
on
any
of
those
things
if
you
have
them.
Thank
you.
D
Dale,
what
what
is
hey
good?
What
tell
me
I
I,
know,
there's
a
presentation
difference
in
the
you
know:
low
battery
aspect
as
well,
and
the
wall
changing.
How
do
you
see
that
playing
out
and
understandably
right
in
front
of
Waterfront
Park?
How
do
you
see
that
playing
out
in
the
totality
of
the
wall
and
what,
as
far
as
the
overall
phasing
and
circulation,
the
public
utility
of
that
was
yeah,
because.
J
Yeah
so
again
we
this
would
be
a
publicly.
So
if
I
understand
your
question,
hey
good,
the
the
Ben.
J
That's
what
we
want
to
extend
up
East
and
West
sides.
The
alignment
is
already
at
the
land
Water
Edge
on
most
of
the
west
side
of
the
peninsula.
We
would
just
build
the
battery
there.
It
would
build
a
battery
there,
he
didn't
go
there.
It
would
look
like
the
battery
function
like
the
battery
people
could
walk
on
it
and
have
a
river
walk
and
things
like
that.
That's
the
design
bowl
there
is
a
in
the
feasibility
plan.
There
is
a
a
set
of
gates
that
are
recommended
to
cross
Lockwood,
but
we
don't
want
that.
J
J
That's
a
ped
question,
so
we
don't
know
that
yet
we
will
get
there
if
we
get
into
ped
and
if
we
can
do
that,
then
those
Gates
across
Lockwood,
they're
gone
it'll
be
a
more
coherent
structure
and
again
we
think
that
will
reduce
the
cost
because
we
will
not
have
to
build
three
gates
and
motors
and
all
those
other
things
and
possibly
disrupt
you,
know:
traffic
or
evacuation
stuff
on
Lockwood.
If
there's
a
storm
coming
we'll
just
have
this
coherent
structure
to
the
west
of
Lockwood.
J
On
the
east
side,
the
structure
line
is
is
on
the
land
water
edge
in
some
spots
we
will
try
to
pull
it
closer
in
spots
where
it's
not
I,
think
it
is
quite
possible
and
Jordy
is
here.
I
can
imagine.
The
court
doesn't
want
a
battery
walkway
on
the
Columbus
terminal.
Maybe
a
t-wall
is
sufficient
there
until
the
port
decides
what
they
want
to
do
with
that
facility
in
10
or
20
or
30
years,
but
maybe
a
t-ball.
That
simple
thing
is
good,
because
it's
not
disruptive
and
it's
not
visible.
It's
just.
J
E
A
J
J
Design
agreement,
so
the
language
we're
working
on
is,
we
will
so
the
city
will
lead
the
alignment
review,
study
and
the
alignment
review
will
perfect
or
suggest
refinements
to
the
feasibility
like
the
recommended
plan
alignment,
and
we
will
then
get
those
right,
we're
not
quite
sure,
because
we
haven't
done
the
review
study
if
we
need
to
move
the
gates,
because
there
are
a
number
of
title
base
so
where
the
structure
would
cross
Open
Water.
J
So
on
the
West
Side,
there's
a
little
Culvert
that
empties
law,
Alberta
Long
Lake
into
the
Ashley
River
right,
there's
a
little
Culvert
there.
That
will
be
a
title
gate:
okay,
so
we'll
have
to
like.
Do
we
does
it
go
exactly
there?
Do
we
move
it
and
how
big
is
it
and
all
those
things?
Those
are
things
that
we
will
establish
in
ped,
where
the
gates
go
will
also
be
established.
When
we
set
the
alignment
because
then
we'll
know
where
the
gates
are
crossing
and
the
closer
we
get.
J
The
structure
on
the
east
side
to
the
land,
Water
Edge,
the
fewer
pedestrian
and
and
automobile
Gates
will
need
and
depending
on
what
we
do
with
the
north
side
of
Columbus
terminal
again,
that
will
be
the
alignment
review
we
that
will
determine
where
we
would
put
a
railroad
gate
at
all.
Okay,
because
there's
a
rail,
the
rail
line
comes
into
the
north
side
of
Columbus
terminal
right.
J
So
do
we
set
the
line
of
protection
a
little
bit
further
west
of
the
railroad
that
has
consequences
right
because
we
would
impact
the
marsh
so
we'll
have
to
do
those
trade-offs.
But
those
are
things
we
do
impaired,
but
we
do
want
to
get
this
structure
more
coherent
up
there
on
the
North
side,
northeast
side
of
the
peninsula,
yeah.
I
Yeah
I
know
a
lot
of
people
are
concerned
about
what
happens
in
the
city.
If
we
get
a
major
storm,
if
this
is
either
in
the
prepaid
stage
or
the
PED
stage,
it's
many
years
before
this
is
going
to
be
really
even
partially
completed.
Can
you
give
us
an
idea
of
what
the
relationship
is
between
the
city
and
the
Army
Corps
at
that
point,
and
how
can
we
project
what
would
happen.
J
If
we
do
nothing
and
we
get
a
bad
hurricane
in
the
next
year
or
two
or
three
or
whatever,
we
do
nothing
I
imagine
after
Hurricane
and
the
city
is
damaged.
J
J
Like
fix
this
thing,
I
don't
want
to
go
through
this
again
right,
that's
an
emotional
response,
so
it's
essential
for
us,
in
my
opinion,
to
get
into
ped.
So
we
can
set
the
design
of
this
so
that
if
the
bad
thing
happens,
that
we
have
a
goal
and
we
have
specs
specifications
designed
for
what
we
want
and
then
the
Congressional
Delegation
will
request
funding
and
we
could
build
that.
Okay,
so
and
I
want
to
there's
a
confusion
about
the
interaction
between
petting
instruction.
J
J
J
They
have
construction
Money
in
the
Bank
because
of
activity
by
their
Congressional
Delegation
ready
to
go
so
once
they're
done
with
phase
one,
they
will
start
to
construct
phase
one
so
and
then
they'll
complete.
So
that's
how
this
works
so
again
to
me,
it's
essential
that
we
get
in
the
design
phase
so
that,
if
something
bad
happens,
we
have
the
structure,
type
and
location
that
we
want.
Not
what
in
a
disaster
situation,
we
may
accept.
I
F
Thanks
Dale,
that
presentation
was
I,
think
we'll
fall.
I
actually
have
two
questions
number
one.
With
the
water
plan
wrapping
up
their
scope
of
work
fairly
soon.
Will
we
have
an
opportunity
to
get
briefed
by
you
or
by
them
on
their
findings
and
recommendations,
particularly
if
they're
looking
at
alignment
and
gay
challenges?
F
J
J
That
said,
we
did
the
discovery
analysis
in
2020
2021.
Looking
at
what
the
Army
Corps
proposed,
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
that
team
has
available
to
them.
J
It
should
come
as
no
surprise
to
you
that
the
this
team
will
recommend
that
the
city
proceed
expeditiously
with
perimeter
protection
for
the
peninsula,
because
there
is
a
high
risk
to
the
entire
city.
If
the
peninsula
goes
underwater,
it's
a
Financial
Risk
because
of
Tourism
and
accommodations
because
of
the
substantial
role
the
peninsula
plays
in
economic
activity,
turnover
business
licenses,
all
the
property
values.
J
The
peninsula
is
a
very
important
part
of
the
city
that
generates
a
lot
of
Revenue
that
supports
City
budget.
That
is
then
spent
elsewhere
in
the
city
right.
So
that's
really
important,
so
waterproof
team
will
will
make
that
recommendation
I'm
quite
sure,
and
they
have
to
make
it
not
that
not
me,
but
they'll
I'm
sure
they'll
make
that
recommendation.
J
So
you
want
and
you
all
get
a
chance
to
look
at
the
draft
whenever
it's
appropriate.
We
have
seen
some
of
this
information
and
I
will
tell
you
with
the
14
inches
of
sea
level
rise.
It
is
you
know
there
are.
There
are
some
worry,
some
future
conditions
that
we
have
to
manage.
We
are
not
putting
our
Austria
our
head
in
the
sand
like
an
ostrich
with
this
water
plan.
We
are
not
fine.
We
have
to
make
investments
to
go
forward
to
be
able
to
stay
here.
F
Thank
you
and
then
my
second
question
is:
you
mentioned
Long
Lake
when
you
were
answering
jordy's
question
and
that
Clover
going
back
to
the
dialogues,
we
had
talked
about
dredging
Long,
Lake
and
using
it
potentially
for
water
storage,
and
you
know
I'm
not
sure
that
anything
ever
came
of
that
and
I
was
wondering
if
the
water
plan
team
had
looked
at
that
and
if
that
was
still
a
viable
option,
if
it
was
something
that
we
could
consider
for
impounded
water
as
part
of
perimeter,
protection.
J
J
The
water
plan
team
believes
that,
with
the
surge
structure
in
place
with
those
pumps
in
place
with
the
cleaning
of
the
brick
arches
they're,
you
know
that's
underway.
It's
going
to
take
some
time
and
with
the
pump
station
that
the
Army
coordinators
is
already
helping
the
city
improve
in
the
Medical
District.
J
All
those
things
added
together
were
really
lessen
the
demand
for
the
Calhoun
West
larger
project,
and
if
we
can
store
more
storm
water
in
Long
Lake
and
still
allow
it
to
function
as
a
water
body
that
has
environmental
benefit,
we
will
the
water
plant
team
will
and
in
ped
we
will
look
at
that
exact
issue.
J
It's
something
you
would
do
in
bed
again.
There's
there's
biological
ecological
function
in
Long,
Lake
that
we
we
have
to
pay
attention
to
and
not
disturb
or
try
not
to
disturb
as
much
as
possible,
and
you
have
to
see
what
the
groundwater
again
if
we
dredge
it
out
and
the
groundwater
comes
up
from
below
it's
not
going
to
matter.
We
couldn't
storm
a
water,
because
the
groundwater
interaction
will
just
fill
it
up,
but
that's
something
we
do
in
Ted.
B
B
Thanks
Dale
Herbert,
you
have
a
question.
H
Thank
you
Dale.
Could
you
please
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
non-structural
thinking
and
how
that
all
will
fit
into
the
areas
of
Mount
as
well
as
Bridgeview.
J
Okay,
so
non-structural
again.
H
J
Good,
so
they
were
in
the
recommended
plan.
There
were
three
areas
that
were
designated
as
non-structile
and
the
reason
they
were
designated
as
non-structural
is
Rosemont.
If
you
would
build
a
surge
wall
around
that
neighborhood,
given
the
wall,
that's
there
the
sound
wall,
that's
already
there
you've
created
a
real
bathtub
there
right
and
to
construct
that
wall
around
Rosemont.
You
would
likely
have
to
take
some
private
property,
some
people's
homes
we
did
not.
The
city
did
not,
and
the
Army
Corps
did
not
want
to
do
that,
but
the
Army
Corps
proposed
is
non-structural.
J
J
But
if
the
Project's
expense
to
12
foot
nabd-
and
maybe
we
could
work
to
go
higher,
that
could
be
a
better
man,
so
that
worrisome,
folks,
whose
homes
would
now
be
six
feet
up
and
it
could
be
six
feet
up
in
the
air.
Not
a
no
elevation
is
mandatory.
J
So
that's
what
that
would
be.
So
that's
what
the
Army
Corps
will
do
and
that's
all
voluntary
on
the
bridge,
the
Bridgeview
side,
those
are
apartment
buildings,
they
have
concrete
foundations,
and
most
of
them
are
at
least
12
10
foot,
navd
88,
so
they're
they're,
almost
High
Enough.
J
What
you
can
do
with
those
structures
is
flood
proof
the
bottoms
and
create
additional
sort
of
flood
proofing
additions
around
the
doors
and
windows
so
that
if
a
hurricane
or
a
bad
storm
is
coming,
you
can
put
those
you
can
quickly
sort
of
snap
those
additional
flood
proofing
measures
in
place
and
then
they're
protected.
So
that
is
what
would
occur
in
Bridgeview
again,
and
that
is
at
the
Project's
cost,
not
at
the
owner
of
the
properties
cost
right
and
again
if
it
requires
people
to
move
elsewhere
for
three
months
or
two
months.
J
While
this
is
done,
those
rental
costs
and
the
cost
to
move
their
stuff
and
move
it
back
is
covered
as
part
of
the
project.
Now
as
you
as
you
all
know,
there
are
other
issues
in
Rosemont
with
tidal
impacts
as
well
as
stormwater
impacts,
rainfall
impacts,
the
Rosemont
resilient
in
a
coherent
fashion
and
work
with
the
community
and
say
what
do
you
want
more
or
additional
to
what
the
Army
Corps
will
provide
to
allow
you
to
be
more
resilient
to
the
different
flood
causes
in
your
neighborhood?
J
That
is
work
to
be
done
under
the
context
of
the
resilience
plan,
and
we
hope
that
work
would
be
done
would
be
completed
and
it
can
be
completed
as
we're
in
the
middle
of
ped
phase
one
so
that
the
recommendations
from
the
resilience
plan
for
Rosemont
and
Bridgeview
are
part
of
the
construction
specs
sort
of
the
the
design
for
for
Rosemont
that
gets
approved.
H
Yes,
some
of
some
of
you
are
you're
you're
explanation
with
garble
and
I.
Guess
we
can
we
can
talk?
Well,
no,
you
got
no
fault
of
anybody.
We
can
talk
about
that
later
on
as
to
what
I
didn't
understand
and
whatnot,
and
thank
you
for
your
explanation.
You're.
B
We
may
have
time
for
one
more
quick
question
before
we
move
into
consideration
of
next
steps.
Any
other
questions
or
comments.
B
Okay,
Dale
thanks
again,
that
was
very,
very
helpful
to
bring
us
all
back
up
to
speed
and
I.
I,
probably
speak
for
members
of
the
committee
and
saying
that
we're
really
encouraged
that
the
partnership
with
the
Army
Corps
continues
to
grow
and
develop
and
to
allow
the
flexibility
that
I
think
we
all
want
to
see
out
of
the
ultimate
design.
So
appreciate
your
efforts.
So.
J
Let
me
Kevin
if
I
may
I
mean
just
with
a
little
bit
of
pride
and
a
little
bit
of
optimism,
so
the
Army
Corps
has
projects
around
the
country
like
this.
Those
projects
are
really
complex,
like
ours,
far
more
complex
than
ours,
because
our
project
is
rather
simple
compared
to
the
100
more
than
100
mile
long
project
they
have
in
New
York
and
a
very
complex
project
they
have
in
Miami
and
elsewhere.
J
We
collaborate
we
Caitlin
and
I
and
other
members
of
the
city.
We
talked
with
those
cities
on
a
regular
basis,
they're
looking
to
us,
because
our
project
is
not
com,
not
too
complex,
they're.
Looking
at
us
to
lead
the
way
to
enable
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
to
get
better
at
working
in
urban
environments,
because
the
Army
Court
does
not
historically
work
in
urban
environments,
so
the
Army
Corps
is
learning
too
and
there's
an
enthusiasm,
I
think
within
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
to
use
this
project
as
a
way
for
them
to
get
better.
J
Too
and
again,
there
are
other
things
happening
with
federal
policy
regarding
the
pursuit
of
comprehensive
benefits,
the
title
surge
groundwater,
a
rainfall,
other
things
like
that
in
Army
Corps
projects,
because
generally
up
until
now,
the
Army
Corps
has
been
siled
into
looking
at
just
one
type
of
flood
causation
and
suggesting
a
project
response
for
that,
and
these
changes
in
federal
policy
going
to
help
a
lot
of
people,
but
we're
going
to
try
to
take
advantage
of
them
too,
as
we
can
in
ped.
J
B
Well,
thanks
again
for
your
leadership
Dale,
and
it's
very
appealing
to
think
that
we
can
not
only
do
what's
right
for
Charleston
but
to
be
a
role
model
for
others.
B
So
I
appreciate
that
I
wanted
to
share
with
the
committee
that
I
hope
to
have
a
personal
one-on-one
conversation
with
each
member
of
this
committee
over
the
next
several
weeks,
probably
maybe
even
extending
into
September
giving
the
challenges
of
travel
but
I'd
love
to
hear
from
you
directly
about
your
interest
in
the
ultimate
outcomes
of
this
project,
but
also
how
we
go
about
it,
how
we
can
be
most
effective
to
serve
our
our
constituents,
our
neighbors,
our
businesses,
our
friends,
everyone
that
we
represent
as
the
committee.
B
One
of
the
things
that
I'll
be
talking
to
you
about
specifically,
is
the
consideration
of
reintroducing
working
groups
that
might
help
further
Define
the
process,
particularly
in
between
meetings.
This
committee
is
enlisted
by
Charter
to
meet
quarterly
and
I
I.
Think
that
feels
right,
at
least
at
this
stage,
given
the
pace
of
the
overall
planning
effort.
But
but
there
are
other
things
that
we
can
do
in
between
and
Susan.
B
Of
course,
you
and
the
communications
committee
are
working
group
I
should
say
in
the
past-
have
done
a
yeoman's
job
of
really
getting
information
out,
as
it's
needed.
I
know
we'll
need
more
of
that.
B
So
please
look
for
an
email
for
me
to
to
find
a
time
on
your
calendar
to
have
those
conversations
to
talk
about
working
groups,
the
other
ones
we
had
were
I,
believe
there's
one
specific
to
funding
and
how
this
could
come
together
with
support
even
beyond
the
Army
Corps
in
the
city,
but
from
other
quarters,
as
well
as
a
focus
on
nature-based
features
and
and
green
infrastructure.
B
So,
and
there
may
be
other
elements
that
we're
missing,
particularly
as
we
move
forward
so
I
look
forward
to
those
discussions,
any
other
comments
or
observations
before
we
could
be
in
today.
A
Yeah
actually
Kevin
I
wanted
to
ask
Dale
if
you
could
share
the
presentation
that
you
had
up
earlier
with
the
committee.
Please.
B
Okay,
well,
please
know
I'm
available
to
you
at
any
time
in
between
meetings,
I'm,
easily
accessible
by
email,
we'll
get
back
to
you
right
away.
I
appreciate
your
commitment,
your
renewed
commitments.
This
is
time
consuming
or
it
can
be,
but
it's
so
critically
important
to
protect
what
we
love.
So
thank
you
all
for
for
signing
on
again
or
for
signing
up,
welcome,
BD
and
welcome
Brandon
and
I
hope
you
stay
cool
and
we'll
all
be
in
touch
thanks.
Everybody
thanks
Kevin
thank.