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City of Charleston Army Corps 3x3 Advisory 12/15/21
A
I
thank
you
and
and
yeah
and.
A
I
don't
think
we
need
to
eat
a
ton
of
time.
I
just
know
that
there
are
probably
a
few
updates
so
again
appreciate
everybody's
time
and
I
may
actually
give
it
back
to
dale,
and
I
know
you
had
written
a
list
of
items
to
kind
of
go
over
and
review
as
far
as
status
and
timeline.
So
I
think
you
know
what
we'll
be
doing
today
is
just
if
y'all
could
give
that
update.
C
We
do
need
to
decide
before
we
adjourn.
We
should
be
per
the
ordinance
meeting
once
a
month
right
now
and
then
we
just
need
to
decide
as
a
committee.
If
that's
the
route
we
want
to
take
for
the
time
being,
with
caveat
that
can
always
add
additional
meetings.
You
know
at
the
request
of
the
committee
in
the
chair,
so
just
before
we
wrap
up
today
make
sure
we
take
that
motion.
B
Good
well,
let
me
provide
everyone
with
a
just
a
really
brief
update.
What's
going
on
with
the
3x3,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
you
some
other
things
that
were
going
on
a
lot
related
to
3x3
but
related
to
water
and
resilience,
and
you
can
ask
questions
about
them.
If
you
like
so
the
process,
the
core
of
engineers
has
looked
at
all
the
comments
that
came
in.
They
have
responded.
They
have
made
responses
to
them,
put
them
in
buckets,
because
some
of
them
were
the
same.
B
Some
topical
buckets,
whatever
those
are
done,
and
they
will
that
will
be
part
of
the
final
report,
how
they
have
managed
through
those
they
have
told
us
that
there
was
there
was.
There
were
no
comments
that
required
a
substantial
revision
to
the
tsp,
just
some
things
they
needed
to
work
through.
So
that
was
good.
The
alignment
on
both
union
pr
terminal
and
columbus
terminal
is
underway.
If
not
finished.
We
have
seen
the
map.
I
said.
B
For
those
of
you
who
are
unfamiliar
with
the
wagon
ball,
the
discovery
report,
we
had
suggested
to
move
that
line
the
alignment
as
close
as
possible
to
the
land
water
edge,
but
without
disturbing
buildings
and
access
to
things
like
that.
The
core
of
engineers
and
the
port
have
worked
to
do
that
again.
The
exact
longitude
latitude
location
of
the
wall-
that
is
something
that
gets
you
know
where
it
goes
exactly
inch
by
inch,
is
something
that
will
be
specified
in
ped.
B
But
the
alignment
is
a
much
more.
It's
a
much
better
alignment.
The
map
of
that
will
be
ready
and
a
statement
from
the
corps
of
engineers
on
that
will
be
sometime
in
early
2022.
So
you
will
be
able
to
see
it
again,
caleb
the
mayor-
and
I
have
seen
it
because
there
were
discussions
between
the
city
and
the
corps
of
engineers
on
this
very
important
issue.
So
that's.
D
B
It
does
create
a
bit
of
a
challenge
to
be
honest
with
you
with
the
morrison
yard
development
in
johnson
street,
because
now
the
way
that
the
wall,
the
structure,
would
come
off
at
the
top
of
the
terminal,
it
would,
as
opposed
to
coming
back
quickly
to
to
morrison
and
east
bay,
east
bay
and
morrison.
It
would
go
down
johnson
street.
This
is
again
the
an
optimized
alignment,
something
to
be
finalized
and
dead.
B
We
have
spoken
with
the
morrison
yards
folks
about
how
this
a
lot,
how
this
alignment
don
johnson
street
would
impact
them.
We
think
it
needs
substantial
improvement
in
ped
to
get
that
wall,
that
structure
outside
or
outboard
of
their
facilities,
and
we
will
work
to
that
and
we
have
already
communicated
that
to
the
army
corps
engineers,
just
as
there
are
a
number
of
other
issues
with
the
alignment
around
lockwood
and
you
know
on
lockwood
and
calhoun.
B
B
This
is
something
we
knew
intuitively
would
happen,
but
the
economic
analysis
shows
that
we
are
likely
to
have
a
11.3
bcr
or
two
or
three
bcr.
So
that
is
a
substantial
improvement
again
there
and
it
would
help
us
with
whatever
we
would
try
to
pursue
with
congress
to
get
our
authorization
of
appropriation.
B
In
there
was
a
meeting
between
the
city
and
the
mayor's
office
and
the
army
corps
of
juniors
vertical
team,
which
is
the
district,
the
division
in
atlanta
and
headquarters
in
washington
last
week.
This
is
called
an
agency
decision
milestone
meeting.
It
is
an
internal
process
meeting
that
has
to
occur
and
what
it
will
do
is
simply.
It
turns
the
optimized
draft
into
what
is
called
the
recommended
plan.
B
B
Once
again,
I
was
stating
very
clearly
that
the
mayor
explained
some
of
the
concerns
we
have
some
of
these
alignment
issues,
some
of
the
things
we're
clearly
going
to
work
on
in
ped.
If
we
get
that
far
things
that
need
to
be
done
and
there
was
no
pushback
or
deep
questioning
from
the
army
corps
on
those
things.
B
So
that's
important
and
then
coming
up
one
of
the
comments
that
we
did
make
a
new
comment
that
was
based
upon
conversations
that
we
have
that
I
have
had
and
others
have
had
with
with
other
people
who
work
for
the
army
corps
processes
is
one
of
the
things
we
will
ask
for
is
a
system-wide
risk
assessment
in
ted.
B
This
is
technical,
but
a
risk
assessment
on
each
feature
of
the
structure.
Is
you
know
what
what
is
what
are
its
risks
of
failure
and
they
looked
at
those
separately
individually?
So
what
is
the
risk
of
a
failure
of
a
particular
failure
of
a
particular
segment?
B
And
what
would
those
impacts
be
what
they
don't
do
unless
you
ask,
for
it
is,
do
a
system
system-wide
risk
assessment,
and
that
is
something
which
then
looks
at
failure,
mechanisms
and
failure,
impacts
of
the
entire
system,
so
the
whole
thing
put
together.
So
are
there
compounding
risks
with
the
structure,
and
that
is
something
that
we
will
ask
for
we've
already
signaled.
We
will
want
that
intent,
so
it's
just
another
level
of
assurance,
so
that
was
done
in
the
adm
meeting.
B
I
did
have
a
conversation
in
colombia
with
folks
there
regarding
the
acquisition
of
federal
funds
through
the
community
development
block
grant
program
to
help
the
city
meet
its
local
match
requirement
in
ped.
Again
there
are
reasons
for
this
again.
The
citadel
medical
district
and
the
port
are
state-affiliated
properties.
B
It
makes
sense
that
we
should
be
able
to
get
some
of
those
federal
funds
to
be
able
to
meet
our
local
match.
That
is
the
one
federal
program
that
does
enable
a
local
sponsor
to
meet
its
local
match
requirements
under
a
federal
project.
So
we've
heat
up
those
discussions.
There
is
in
theory
money
available
in
2023
and
2024
for
that
through
money,
that's
already
in
the
pipeline,
so
we
will
start
to
pursue
that
formally
with
the
state.
B
B
I'll,
let
you
let
you
all
answer,
ask
questions,
but
there
are
other
things
underway
here.
We
know
about
these
and
I
can
answer
questions
if
you
have
them
so
the
city
budget.
That
is
up
for
a
second-
and
I
guess
third
review
next
week-
does
have
money
for
a
water
plant
in
it.
If
that
gets
approved,
we
will
move
down
that
procurement
line
next
year.
I
already
have
had
some
conversations
with
some
folks
about
that.
B
B
We
would
have
to
carve
out
some
money
from
the
water
plan
to
do
this
and
find
some
other
resources
to
help
make
sure
that
is
done.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
you
know.
I
am
not
the
decision
maker
on
this,
but
in
my
opinion
I
would
hope
we
could
get
an
actionable
resilience
plan
for
rosemont,
not
a
vision,
resilience
plan,
because
I
think
we
have
through
the
shower
report
and
other
things.
We
have
a
vision.
B
Let's
get
some,
let's
get
some
recommendations
for
concrete
actions
which
could
also
then
help
inform
whatever
rosemont
would
want
to
do
in
the
ped
process,
vis-a-vis
their
their
their
neighborhood.
So
I
think
that's
important.
The
resilience
plan
is
not
something
you're
going
to
be
able
to
do
in
two
months.
It
may
take
a
six
month
period
to
do
that,
but
that
is
fine
that
will
still
be
finished
before
head.
If
we
get
that
far
would
actually
start
just
more
broadly,
not
at
all
related
to
the
three
by
three.
B
This
many
of
you
may
or
may
not
know,
but
the
city
is
involved
with
a
number
of
pilot
projects
and
national
collaborations
one
is
something
called
the
community
flood
resilience
tool,
so
the
department
of
homeland
security,
the
national
federal
agency,
is
piloting
the
piloting
the
development
of
a
community
flood
risk
planning
tool
in
charleston.
B
It
is
being
developed
by
deltarus,
the
the
dutch
think
tank
and
what
it
will
do
is
it
will
take
the
very
sophisticated
hazard
and
impact
models
that
inform
a
lot
of
risk,
modeling
and
and
planning
processes
for
flood
risk
across
communities.
B
It'll,
take
them,
make
them
run
much
faster
and
give
you
outputs,
you'll,
be
able
to
tweak
them
and
put
certain
measures
into
the
into
the
tool
so
that,
when
you
go
to
a
community
planning
meeting
and
someone
says
hey
well,
what
would
three
pumps
over
there
mean
and
you
would
have
to
draw
a
polygon
around
the
area
or
what
would
elevation
of
two
feet
over
there
mean
or
what
would
sea
level
rise
assumption
of
three
feet
or
one
feet?
What
would
that
mean
for
our
hazards
and
risks
and
impacts
in
a
particular
area?
B
You
would
be
able
to
run
that
in
a
reasonably
short
period
of
time.
In
minutes-
and
often
most
of
you
may
know
that
when
you
run
these
models
for
true
planning
processes
to
make
an
engineering
or
planning
decision
upon
those
models
can
take
three
four
and
sometimes
three
or
four
hours,
or
sometimes
three
or
four
days
to
run
because
of
the
sophistication
needed.
So
this
would
take
those
models
and
make
them
available
in
a
planning
decision.
B
So
it's,
and
so
the
pilot
here
is
very
important,
because
charleston
is
the
target,
it
will
be
city
wide.
The
basins
are
mapped
del
toros
has
imported
a
lot
of
information
that
from
existing
models
that
exist
existing
models,
and
once
this
pilot
is
finished
in
july
august
of
2022,
and
if
it
works,
it
will
be
shared
with
all
other
communities
in
the
united
states.
So
so
this
will
be
a
dhs
project
that
we
are
piling,
which
then
will
be
shared
with.
B
Other
communities
have
to
be
developed
there
to
ingest
all
their
models,
but
charleston
is
once
again
showing
some
leadership,
so
that's
exciting
and
the
the
delta
team
was
in
town
last
week,
showing
us
where
they
were,
and
it
is,
it
is
pretty
exciting.
B
The
city
is
also
has
been
asked
to
be
part
of
the
resilient
cities,
network
climate
resilience
program,
and
this
is
five
cities,
so
houston,
boston,
chicago,
new
orleans
and
charleston
have
been
asked
to
participate
with
brazilian
cities
network
and
the
zurich
foundation
to
understand
how
environmental
justice
considerations
can
be
brought
into
flood
risk
mitigation
aspects,
houston
and
boston
are
doing
things
already.
They
have
money
coming
at
them
from
the
federal
government
for
different
disasters.
B
So
the
goal
here
is
to
try
to
use
some
of
that
money
for
environmental
justice,
racial
justice,
social
justice
considerations
and
these
five
cities
are
being
asked
to
come
together
and
work
together
to
see
how
that
can
be
done
and
what
lessons
can
be
learned.
So
that's
an
important
thing
that
we're
part
of
the
natural
resources
defense
council,
which
is
a
well-known
national,
non-profit,
environmental
nonprofit.
B
I
saw
it
laura
on
her
head
here
and
she's.
There
they're
a
great
group
of
folks.
They
have
been
looking
at
the
very
difficult
challenges
that
federal
policy
puts
on
federal,
buyout
and
federal
elevation
challenges.
So
you
know
sometimes
you
think,
of
the
church
week
basis
in
the
city
and
fema
bought
up
32
homes
there,
because
of
repetitive
flood
laws
and
buyouts
are
becoming
more
and
more
common.
The
problem
with
biots
is
they
take
forever
it
takes.
B
We
have
some
very
specific
cases
here
in
charleston
right
now
that
are
in
limbo
because
of
this,
and
so
ndrc
is
they're,
trying
to
figure
out
what
else
can
we
do
and
there's
a
consortium
of
other
cities
and
other
stakeholders
leading
stakeholders
involved
with
this
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
ways?
Do
we
push
changes
to
federal
policy,
or
do
we
find
out
other
ways
to
trigger
up
to
trigger
an
accelerated
or
improved
buyout
process
when
something
bad
has
happened
to
repetitive
loss
properties?
B
So
this
is
important.
We're
part
of
that
again.
It's
exciting
nothing
to
report,
that's
going
to
change
charleston
in
the
next
six
months,
but
maybe
charleston
can
help
inform
those
decisions
going
forward
and
then,
as
you
may
or
may
not
know
my
last
item,
the
city
is
part.
Sorry
charleston
has
a
budding
growing
heat
watch
effort,
so
heat
is
one
of
the
hazards
that
was
identified
in
the
and
the
vulnerability
analysis
is
something
this
that
we
need
to
pay
attention
to.
B
B
We
are,
we
hope,
within
the
resilience
office,
to
create
some
attention
to
that
issue
in
2022,
because
there's
this
thing
happening
within
these
agencies
or
these
entities
within
the
city,
key
stakeholders
and
the
city
needs
to
be
as
an
entity
needs
to
be
involved
more
with
those
those
those
decisions
and
those
operations.
So
we
hope
to
be
able
to
bring
this
within
the
resilience
office
next
year.
B
Flood
is
still
going
to
be
a
primary
focus
for
us
in
the
resilience
office
and
the
rest
of
the
city,
but
we
need
to
do
more
of
me
too,
and
in
the
simplest
ways
you
know
we
know
trees
do
well
with
water
right.
They
help
with
water
management.
It's
a
nature-based
feature.
Well,
they
do
a
lot
of
really
good
things
with
heat
too.
So
how
do
we
combine
our
investments
in
flutters
mitigation,
with
investments
that
can
yield
heat
benefits
or
heat
mitigation
benefits
for
for
certainly
disadvantaged
communities,
and
there
are
a
number
of
them.
A
Thank
you
very
much,
dale.
That's
a
lot!
Obviously,
a
lot
of
great
initiatives,
I'm
sure
it'll
be
additional
follow-up.
I
see
cash's
note
that's
great.
I
agree.
I
agree
if
yeah
I
tracked
on
the
name
of
the
vendor,
because
they
they
just
left
a
bunch
of
limbs
in
the
yard.
Oh,
if
I
remember
it,
while
we're
talking
I'll
pass
it
along,
but
we
got
an
office
in
new
york,
you
can
just
call
them
directly.
A
I
would
totally
agree
anyway,
but
yeah.
I
guess
I'll
open
up
to
the
floor
and
obviously
it
could
be
probably
a
lot
of
questions
relative
to
the
updates
that
dale
provided.
So
let's
go
through
those
dinners.
C
C
Yeah
I
just
good
good
update
dale.
I
had
a
call
to
meet
with
this
on
a
phone
call
justice
that
you
talked
about
that
group
and
I
think
it's
december,
our
or
others
on
this
committee
are
going
to
be
involved
with.
I
just
wonder
if
I'm
the
only
one
or
who
else
is
going
to
be
in
in
that
group,
which.
B
C
B
Him,
okay,
good!
Let
me
know,
let
me
know
if
you
want
to
talk
offline
to
see
if
we
need
to
coordinate
happy
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
C
Hi
again,
I
wanted
to
wish
laura
all
the
best
and
to
follow
up
and
ask
what
the
situation
is
with
a
replacement
from
either
ccl
or
in
some
other
how
that
is
going
to
work
for
this
committee.
C
Okay,
great,
because
I
think
we
need
that
voice
yeah,
but
we
certainly
want
to
be
able
to
continue
to
provide
input
and
and
be
helpful
to
the
process.
Terrific.
Thank
you
much
much
good
luck.
I
had
a
second
question.
I
think
we
gather
that
the
council
likely
will
not
vote
on
the
three
by
three
project
until
next
month.
Do
we
have
any
more
information
about
that.
B
No
updates,
we,
you
know,
we
need
to
wait
for
the
corps
of
engineers
to
give
us
the
update
on
what
they've
been
doing
and
once
they
do,
and
we
anticipate
that
in
early
in
early
2021,
sorry
2022
the
year
has
flown
by
22.
We
will
then
work
with
council
and
the
mayor
and
the
council
will
work
together
to
figure
out
proceed
on
that.
A
Thanks
everybody,
any
additional
questions
and
actually
I'll
see,
councilman,
waring
and
c
kings.
Are
there
I
our
last
address
to
council.
I
realized
that,
just
in
the
moment,
I
I
forgot
to
to
bring
all
of
us.
Obviously
members
of
the
committee,
so
anyway
I
just
wanted
to
apologize
for
that
and
b.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
for
being
here
with
us.
E
Well,
you're
welcome,
I
see
keith.
Is
there
too?
We
did
announce
broadly
that
you
had
undertaken,
probably
the
hardest
civilian
job
in
the
history
of
charleston.
If
the
committee
wasn't
watching
so-
and
I
do
believe
that
to
be
true,
I
mean
what
you've
done
has
been
heroic
and
I
think
your
presentation
in
front
of
council
was
appropriate
and
you
sort
of
saw
the
line
of
questioning
there'll
be
some
more
and
susan.
I
I
think
dale's
right
as
soon
as
we
get
whatever
the
corps
is
doing
their
final
report.
E
You'll
see
this
on
a
council
agenda
very
quickly.
I
mean
within
a
couple
weeks.
I
don't
think
it'll
take
a
long
time,
because
I
know
the
corps
wants
an
answer
and
frankly
we
want
to
get
a
vote
out
and
see
where
this
is
all
going,
because
it's
kind
of
lingering
out
there
at
this
point.
So
the
committee's
made
its
recommendations.
We're
waiting
on
the
core
bail
is
in
place,
so
I
suspect
the
second
meeting
in
january.
The
first
meeting
of
february
is
when
you'll
see
a
vote.
E
E
The
chairman
reporting
that
back
or
dale
reporting
that
back,
but
for
now
I
think,
with
the
holidays,
coming
up
with
us
taking
up
the
budget
and
by
the
way
dale
mentioned
in
his
comments
that
we
have
in
the
budget,
the
500
000
for
the
water
plan
study
that
that
that
is
going
to
pass.
I
mean
the
budget
passed
first
reading,
11-1
the
one
vote
against
it
was
me
and
it
had
nothing
to
do
with
that
water
plan.
E
By
the
way
it
was
because
there's
a
three-mill
tax
increase,
so
I
don't
see
any
problem
with
that
being
funded
and
dale
and
his
team
get
to
work
on
it
with
the
procurement
pretty
quickly.
So
that's
a
long
answer.
I
don't
think
there's
much
to
do
between
now
and
when
the
court
comes
out
with
whatever
it
is,
that
they're
going
to
come
out
with,
and
I
think
dale
told
us
he
thought.
Maybe
that
would
be
january-
we're
all
we're
all
like
you
all
waiting.
B
Regarding
the
water
plan,
I
have
developed
a
one
pager
that
I
should
had
to
share
where
I
shared
it
with
council,
because
there
are
questions.
What
is
a
water
plan?
I
forget
if
I
have
shared
that
with
everyone
on
this
committee.
Okay,
I.
D
B
I
don't
know
what
I've
done,
so
I
apologize
that
happens
sometimes,
but
if
you
need
me
to
reshare
it
with
you,
I'm
happy
to
do
it.
Okay,.
B
So
I
again
there's
a
city,
procurement
process
and
culture
that
I
don't
know
enough
about.
Yet
I've
been
on
the
other
side
of
it
a
couple
times.
I
know
it
takes
some
time.
B
I
would
I
imagine
that
it's
going
to
take
three
months
once
since
the
city
council
approves
this
to
get
it
through
the
procurement
to
get
to
get
something
on
the
street
two
months
and
then
have
a
30-day
response:
time,
analyze
it
and
then
work
with
whatever
the
procurement
review
team
is
to
get
to
select
a
a
consultant
and
team,
and
then
they
would
start
that
you
know,
given
what
we're
asking.
I
do
think
you
wouldn't
start
this
idea.
You
wouldn't
be
able
to
start
this
really
until
may
or
june.
B
B
I
still
think
it's
a
nine
month
at
a
minimum
process,
six
to
nine
months
six
months
to
12
years.
It
depends
on
exactly
you
know
what
the
gap
analysis
is
going
to
show,
because
the
gap
analysis
is
going
to
open
our
eyes
to
things
that
maybe
we
need
which
would
be.
Then
you
know
a
second
task
or
a
third
task
or
within
the
process.
So
I
mean,
I
don't
think
you
have
a
water
plan
until
q1
of
2023
at
the
earliest.
B
C
Thanks,
mr
chairman,
I
have
a
budget
question
for
councilman's,
seekings
or
and
or
wearing.
Is
the
water
plan
funded
through
our
monies
or
is
that
from
city
revenues.
B
D
Good
morning
you
know
you
apologized,
and
I
was
mr
chairman
I
when
we
were
given
all
the
praises
we
meant
it.
I
mean
this
committee's
done.
A
wonderful
job,
you've
led
a
very
difficult
effort
and
all
councilman
the
account's
been
seeking.
D
You
know
obviously
initiated
by
the
mayor
and
the
team
he's
put
together,
but
I
would
hope
it
doesn't
matter
which
way
it
goes.
Obviously,
if
the
vote
is
positive,
then
it
will
continue.
But
if
the
vote
is
a
negative
vote,
I
would
hope,
regardless
if
this
committee
stays
together,
because
that
means
it
would
take
a
community
effort
to
continue
something.
That's
needed
solely
needed
to
make
it
an
athletic
contest.
You
know,
and
we
lost
by
one
vote.
D
We
won
by
one
vote
would
be
a
travesty,
in
my
opinion,
so
because
that
leads
to
nothing
being
done.
D
This
may
even
come
down
to
whoever
wins
that
election
on
daniel
island,
which
no
one
knows
right
now
so
and
that's
the
part
that
I've
reflected
on
the
closeness
of
it
that
11-1
vote
and
you
may
as
well
say
it
was
a
unanimous
fool.
I
mean
that
was
the
the
issue
that
mike
voted
against.
D
I
think
he
would
say
the
rest
of
the
remainder
of
the
budget.
He
probably
was,
you
know,
99
approval,
for
that
said,
that's
the
kind
of
effort
we
need
on
surge
protection
and
drainage
and
that
shouldn't
be
a
divided
vote.
You
know
with
a
photo
finish
at
the
finish
line.
I
think
that,
so
how
do
we
get
beyond
that?
Maybe
over
the
christmas
holiday
between
now
and
in
the
new
year?
D
We
on
this
committee,
I'm
including
all
of
you
all,
including
dale
as
well,
know
more
about
this
process
now
than
probably
most
in
the
city.
So
maybe
we
can
reflect
on.
How
can
we
make
it
better
in
2022
and
beyond?
But
I
know
that's
what
I'm
gonna
be
doing.
You
know
between
now
and
then
dale
and
I
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
speak
and
dale.
I
promise
you
I'll
get
with
you
next
week.
We
will,
but
in
1984
I
understand
a
water
study
is
different
than
the
drainage
plant.
D
The
city
did
a
drainage
plan
and
it
discovered
a
huge
amount
of
problems.
I
would
say
probably
80
of
those
problems.
Hadn't
been
fixed
and
I
was
talking
to
ross
appel
months
ago,
a
couple
months
ago
now
and
I
just
brought
up
1984
study
and
he
said
wow.
That's
when
I
was
born.
D
We
got
people
who
have
been
born,
who
I
mean
when
the
study
came
out
that
now
occupied
scene
on
council.
I
actually
think
we
got
two
and
those
problems
that
were
illuminated
hadn't
been
fixed.
D
Obviously
we
got
to
have
a
better
system
than
that.
So
every
time
I
hear
about
study
my
mind
goes
back
to
washington,
columbia
or
even
washington
dc
a
lot
of
times
elected
officials.
Let's
call
them
politicians
when
some
are
not
in
agreement
with
something
you
know
what
they
do.
They
study
it.
D
They
send
it
to
a
committee
and
they
study
it,
especially
if
it's
something
that
would
make
them
unpopular
to
be
against.
She
said:
let's
study
it
and
I'm
fighting
the
feeling
that
that's
not
happening
to
us
right
now,
because
when
the
study
comes
back,
how
do
we
pay
for
it?
And
I
don't
see
the
work
being
done
on
it.
So
I
do
believe
the
answer
is
out
in
our
community
and
it's
not
all
within
the
13
minds
that
have
votes
around
council,
somehow
better
ideas.
D
I
know,
as
a
council
person
just
because
you
won
an
election
doesn't
mean
you're
all
knowing.
I
know
you
all
know
that,
but
we
get
somehow
better
ideas
from
citizens.
You
know
like
susan,
our
cash
and
or
jordy
or
kevin.
You
know
I'm
not
slightly
arrested.
You
know,
there's
a
you
know,
herbert
you've
done
a
great
job
on
this
committee,
bringing
voice
to
the
unheard.
D
So
we
get
some
our
better
answers
believe
in
our
better
strategies
and
times
from
our
community.
So
I
hope
between
now
and
then
this
has
been
a
good
effort.
I'd
say
a
very
good
effort.
How
can
we
make
it
better
because
again,
it'll
be
a
travesty
to
walk
away
from
this
with
some
people?
Grumbling
because
they
didn't
go
their
way,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
super
storm
is
out
there
and
those
rain
bombs
will
continue
to
come
and
obviously
sunny
day.
Flooding
will
be
a
part
of
our
life.
D
D
Anyway,
so
thanks
for
the
time
you
guys,
I
I
wish
you
all
could
have
looked
at
the
work
yourselves
and
it's
hard
to
be
objective
about
yourself,
but
it's
just
not
we're
not
making
that
up
mike.
You
tell
me
I
you
know.
Maybe
a
short-term
rental
had
something
close
to
this
from
a
volunteer
committee,
but
this
has
been,
I
think,
one
of
the
best
efforts
from
citizens
coming
together
trying
to
reach
for
the
best
solution,
not
only
for
ourselves
but
the
next
generations
to
come.
A
Likewise,
thank
you
all
council
members,
and
we
would
greatly
appreciate
y'all
and
y'all's
time
and
efforts
and
contributions,
obviously
wouldn't
wouldn't
wouldn't
have
been,
wouldn't
have
gotten
where
we
are
without
without
having
the
oil's
insight
on
on
every
facet.
A
So,
susan,
I
see
you
get
your
your
hand
up,
yeah.
C
I'm
gonna
follow
keith
and
and
thank
him
for
all
those
good
words
and
that
marvelous
suggestion
that,
if
by
some
stroke
of
luck
or
non-luck,
the
the
army
court
does
not
get
its
approval
that
we
do
con
continue
as
a
committee.
I
don't
want
this
to
sound
like
like
we're
negative
on
that.
My
my
hope
is
that
it
gets
approved
for
ped,
and
I
I'm
saying
that
publicly
for
the
first
time,
but
I
would
like
to
continue
this
commit.
C
But
this
city
needs
a
committee
on
flooding
and
you
know,
however,
things
go
we're
going
to
have
flooding,
so
I
I
don't
know
whether
to
put
that
in
the
form
of
emotion
or
just
put
it
out
there
and
know
that.
That's
something
that
at
least
some
of
us
would
like
to
continue
to
do.
B
If,
if,
if
I
could
make
one
reflection
on
that,
I
think
citizen
participation
and
transparency
is
just
essential.
So
again,
heygood
mentioned
it
but
I've.
B
You
know
I've
enjoyed
engaging
with
you
if
we
were
to
add
one
other
type
of
person
to
this
commute
to
this
committee
would
be
a
good
idea
to
add
a
technical
person,
and
you
know
there's
a
number
of
folks
local
who
are
really
good
technical
about
h,
stuff,
so
hydraulics
and
hydrology
stuff
considerations,
and
that
may
be,
and
adding
someone
like
that
if
we
can
find
that
person
who's
willing
to
commit
the
time,
because
it
is
not
insubstantial.
B
A
Maybe
it's
worth
visiting
when
we
laura
when
we
all
catch
up
on
on
this
process
and
how
that
works
with
with
getting
you
up.
You
know
whatever
I
don't
use
words
substitution,
because
I
don't
know
that
it
does
it
justice.
But
but
you
know
what
I
mean.
C
D
Yes,
good
morning,
mr
chairman
and
everybody
else
question:
does
this
committee
in
representing
the
different
communities
will
have?
Will
we
have
any
input
as
to
the
steering
committee
for
the
water
plan.
E
Under
the
current
ordinance-
that's
out
there,
I
don't
think
that's
a
specific
enumeration
just
because
it
wasn't
contemplated
when
this
committee
was
formed,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
this
committee
shouldn't
have
some
input
into
that.
We
certainly
have
time
to
sort
of
debate
that
at
council
or
either
have
that
just
as
a
mandate
from
the
mayor,
so
good
suggestion
keith.
We
can
just
bring
that
up
with
the
mayor
and
see
what
council
wants
to
do
with
that.
D
D
Somebody
from
the
council
government
needs
to
have
a
say
in
this.
I
think
somebody.
D
D
D
There
are
a
lot
of
some
parts
you
know,
and
this
this
is
almost
180
degrees
in
another
direction.
D
Some
of
you
all
may
be
familiar
with
cajun,
the
charleston
area,
justice
ministry
and
it's
a
group
of
volunteers
from
enough
30
30,
some
of
the
five
churches
around
the
area
that
they,
oh
maybe
10
years
ago,
came
up
and
took
on
hard
issues.
One
was
the
of
african-american
students
through
the
school
districts.
They
got
engaged
with
that
and
really
changed
the
process.
D
That's
no
longer
the
problem
as
it
wants
one
from
school
pipeline
to
jail
and
we
have
police
officers
in
school.
They
arrest
students
and
they
end
up
in
the
penal
system.
It
was
a
better
system
than
that,
but
it
took
a
volunteer
group.
One
appointed
vitamin
one
appointed
by
some
state,
senator
representative
that
came
together.
They
actually
approached
us
and
created
like
a
lot
of
controversy,
but
the
racial
bias
and
policing
in
our
police
department
and
created
a
unbiased
study.
As
far
as
unbiased
studies
can
be
done.
D
That
pointed
out,
I
don't
know
less
than
50,
but
46
48
crucial
problems.
We
need
to
fix
in
our
police
department
and
we're
going
about
the
business
and
getting
that
done,
but
that
was
outside
push
that
created
that
change
and.
E
D
When
we
look
on
tv
and
you
see
a
policeman
shoot
a
person,
an
unarmed
person
running
away
from
you
in
the
middle
of
the
back
and
kills
them
in
front
of
a
tv
that
can't
be
accepted
policy
it
took
outside
influence,
and
now
even
north
charleston
is
trying.
You
know,
has
hired
the
same
very
same
company
to
try
and
prove
their
police
department.
D
Well,
like
can
you
imagine
that
we
had
that
kind
of
effect,
with
drainage
and
stormwater
from
a
groundswell,
the
stakeholders
they're
saying
we
need,
as
dale
has
said,
and
an
aim
not
one
or
the
other,
because
the
ann
and
then
you
get
me
dividing
the
community.
You
lose
me
I'll.
Tell
you
that
right
now,
so
we
have
a
water
problem
and
this
process
has
gotten
that's
the
praise
of
salutation.
D
We've
had
a
water
problem
for
decades,
but
it's
finally
coming
to
conclusion,
and
I'm
just
saying
on
the
other
side:
how
do
we
make
it
better
and
I
don't
think
that
necessarily
a
politician
is
going
to
appoint
all
the
answers
matter
of
fact,
I
I
I'd
be
shocked
if
a
politician
would
be
able
to
appoint
all
the
stakeholders
to
have
a
comprehensive
answer.
So
that's
the
kind
of
broadness,
because
when
it
comes
from
the
outside
right
now
we're
going
to
vote
on
it's
a
small.
A
D
The
potential
of
taxing
business
people
to
improve
king
street
that
didn't
that
idea
didn't
come
from
the
mayor
on
council.
It
pretty
much
came
from
the
business
community
coming
forward
to
us.
Your
voices
have
been
independent,
independent
voices
on
this
effort,
storm
surge
and
drainage
can
bring
about
change.
D
So
you
know
the
political
answers
frustrate
me,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
all
live
with
this
water
together
and
we
all
know
it's
getting
worse
but
bringing
this
subject
to
bed.
I
can't
tell
you
how
much
praises
and
salutation
I
give
to
anybody
who
who
brought
this
forward
because
it
was
a
water
cooler
discussion.
Now
it's
been,
I
think
you
could
go
from
one
city
to
the
other,
one
pretty
much
counting
to
the
other
and
they
they
know.
We
need
to
do
something.
D
I've
heard
something
about
this,
don't
want
a
surge
of
drainage
problems.
So
that's
the
piece
I
I
don't
know
you
know
the
part
about
architect
constructing
something
I
bet
it's
more
powerful
if
it
comes
from
the
outside
and-
and
you
know
this
has
been
a
powerful
effort,
but
I
actually
believe
some
of
those
entities.
I
spoke
of
again
ceo
around
the
regional
development
alliance,
which
recruits
business
into
this
region.
That's
how
the
new
course
got
here.
D
That's
how
the
mercedes
that's
how
boeing
got
him
through
those
efforts:
county
council,
somebody
from
the
state
we're
going
to
ask
the
state
for
100
million
dollars,
there's
not
a
voice,
but
besides
steve
post
authority
around
this
table,
I
would
say
around
this
effort
like
that.
I
think
those
are
huge
emissions,
so
we're
good,
but
we
got
to
be
great
to
get
this
comprehensive
effort
going
forward.
I
mean
we're.
B
D
D
Medal
on
this
we're
trying
to
get
a
gold
medal,
so
you
know
kevin's
speaking
up
about
the
you
know
the
aquarium
and
it's
effort.
You
know
I
got
some
grandkids
that
absolutely
love
those
turtles
over
there
and
I
gotta
tell
you
if
something
happens
that
aquarium
with
a
c
with
a
stonewater
search.
D
I
gotta
answer
my
grandkid,
so
so
that's
what
I'm
talking
about.
I
mean-
and
I
think
at
this
point
we
all
there
shouldn't
be
any
holding
back.
In
other
words,
you
know
because
it's
not
politically
correct
to
say
this
I'll
say
that
it's
politically
correct
to
give
enormous
credit
to
pulling
this
together,
because
it
was
all
fragmented
pride
in
it.
But
on
the
other
side
we
can
be
better.
D
Are
we
gonna
be
the
example
on
the
east
coast
for
the
rest
of
the
coastal
communities?
I
don't
know
you
know.
The
general
assembly
basically
is
run
by
people
from
fall
from
small
communities.
You
know
once
you
leave,
you
know:
charleston
columbia,
greenville,
maybe
spartanburg.
D
D
D
So
if
we
don't
get
some
of
those
people
on
board
some
of
these
smaller
people
who
realize
the
state
has
a
problem
with
flooding.
You
know
and
storm
water
surge
to
protect.
You
know
our
tourism
industry,
which
is
what
the
number
one
income
producer.
How
do
we
get
we're
not
going
to
get
them
on
board
with
12
or
13
people
saying
we
really
support
this
hundred
million
dollar
effort
out
the
city
from
the
state
to
help
pay
for
this.
So
that's
the
kind
of.
A
No,
that's
I
mean
that's
super
alphonse,
it's
a
very
proud,
I
mean
y'all,
see
the
practicality
and
I
mean
how
these
things
actually
get
done.
You
know
we
can
talk
about
it
to
your
point
in
concept
as
much
as
we
want,
but
what
you're
talking
about
is,
I
think,
a
lot
more
or
maybe
just
as
relevant,
which
is
hey.
This
is
an
effort.
Has
this
effort
actually
get
accomplished
in
real
life
and
how
does
it
get
funded?
A
So
certainly
I
mean
I
I
think
the
point
there
is
is
very
well
taken.
Yeah
the
dale
I
I
guess
you
probably
have
a
a
follow-up
comment
to
that.
So
I
see
your
do.
Why
don't
you
go
for
it.
B
So
I
agree
these
suggestions
that
councilman
warren
just
made
about
expanding
the
committee
and
getting
again
I've
spoken
with
folks
from
some
of
these
organizations
you
just
mentioned
already,
and
so
I
think,
getting
their
input,
their
leadership,
their
push
their
their
energy.
Whatever
into
this
committee,
would
be
wonderful.
B
I
think
we
have
to
figure
out
when
the
right
time
for
that
is-
and
so
you
know-
I
think
you
know
if
the
city,
whatever
the
city
city,
decides
to
do
with
or
without
the
army
for
engineers,
that's
going
to
determine
who's
going
to
come
into
this,
be
aware
that
I
have
been
talking
with
folks
upstate,
I'm
just
a
city
staffer,
I'm
not
an
elected
person,
so
I
don't
have
the
authority.
D
Bill
excuse
me
for
cutting
across
you
just
said.
Whatever
the
city
decides
to
do
see,
that's
one
of
the
issues.
One
of
the
problems
is
this
water
problem,
isn't
just
the
city
of
charleston's
problem
alone
and
when
the
city
decides,
what
to
do
you
offending
some
of
the
stakeholders?
D
That
should
be
a
part
of
this
process.
For
example,
for
example,
a
number
of
county
council
members
read
in
the
newspaper
about
the
25
million
dollar
potential
request
coming
from
them
and
the.
D
I
got
calls
from
three
ain't,
been
nine
count
county
councilmen.
I
got
calls
from
three.
B
D
Saying
what
is
this
so
a
single
entity
determining
that
time
for
an
inclusive
effort?
The
unintended
consequences
is
you
offend
those
stakeholders
and
they
have
the
actual
vote
to
say
yay
or
nay,
whether
you
get
the
money.
So
that's
the
portion
where
these
regional
efforts,
those
stakeholders
voices,
are
just
as
important
as
yours,
mike
the
mayor's
mike.
You
know,
okay,
I
believe
jackson's.
B
So
let
me
respond
to
that,
so
I
agree
100
with
what
you
just
said.
I
do,
and
I
would
you
know,
love
to
have
to
talk
with
you
one-on-one,
like
we
suggested
we
would.
I
was
in
columbia
two
weeks
ago
and
I
briefed
the
state
resilience
office
on
what
charleston
was
doing
across
a
number
of
its
flood
problems,
not
just
the
surge
issue,
but
the
church
creek
issue
what's
been
done
with
the
comp
plan.
B
What
else
has
gone
on
they're
deeply
impressed
the
state
resilience
office
and
the
state
resilience
advisory
committee
they're
impressed
with
what
is
going
on
in
charleston
and
I'm
trying
to
like
establish
the
relationship
between
the
city
and
the
state.
So
this
is
something
that
I
think
is
right
in
line
with
what
you're
suggesting
they,
the
state
resilience
office
asked
me
to
sit
on
one
of
their
subcommittees
as
they
develop
the
state
resilience
plan
which
will
create
more
interaction
between
us.
So
that's
good.
B
D
Let
me
wrap
this
up.
I
think
you're
doing
exemplary
work,
but
when
we
need
again,
you
hear
me
say
this
before
when
we
needed
to
replace
the
ravenel
bridge
mayor
raleigh,
mayor
sumi,
the
chairman
of
county
council,
at
the
time
barrett
larimore
and
the
mayor
of
mount
pleasant
came
together.
D
That's
what's
missing,
I
have
yet
to
see
mayor
and,
if
he's
done
it
I'll
apologize,
but
I'm
not
familiar
with.
I
haven't
seen
where
mayor
tucker
girl
has
reached
out
to
mayor
summey
or
the
chairman
of
county
council.
Maybe
he
reached
out
to
the
mayor
of
my
place.
I
just
don't
know,
but
I
know
one
thing:
the
public
hadn't
seen
that
unity.
D
Okay,
that's
how
you
well
the
support
for
the
actual
votes
to
appropriate
the
money.
Okay
on
the
on
the
county
and
the
state
level.
Believe
me,
I
think
you
as
a
matter
of
fact.
I
think
I
tell
you
you
need
to
get
a
little
rest
in
r,
but
I
still
say
that,
like
please
take
advantage
of
the
holidays.
Don't
work
yourself
too
hard,
but
without
that
comprehension
and
say
why
hasn't
that
happened?
D
I
will
speak
to
the
man
about
that
because
I
think
he's
done
a
good
job,
bringing
this
subject
to
bill,
but
a
singular
effort
on
tourism
is
again
the
number
one
industry
in
the
state
of
south
carolina,
so
we
got
from
hilton
here
I
mean
from
myrtle
beach
all
the
way
down
to
hilton.
Okay,
where
are
the
where's
the
unification
there?
D
In
other
words,
I
don't
know
that
we
have
an
ongoing
dialogue,
but
that
the
the
mayor
hilton
here,
the
powers
that
be
up
in
myrtle
beach-
it's
charleston,
you
know
firing
this
shot
over
at
fought
something
alone
that
might.
B
D
But
so
it
is
not
you
I
mean
you
again,
I
I
wish
we
could
multiply.
Okay,
that
has
to
be
done
or
it's
going
to
be.
Those
people
down
in
charleston
are
trying
to
do
that.
I
don't
know
whether
that's
a
winning
strategy
for
we,
the
people
in
charleston.
Are
we
the
people
in
charleston
county?
D
Are
we
the
people
in
the
tri-county
area,
so
it
shouldn't,
be.
I
don't
know
what
they're
doing
down
there
in
charleston
when
it
comes
to
somebody
else
who
shares
the
same
problem.
You
know
the
mayor
of
james
allen.
We
have.
D
The
sword
has
been
put
away
between
the
city
of
charleston
and
and
james
island.
James
allen
has
the
town
of
james
island
has
a
concern.
They
don't
have
any
money,
you
know,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
their
voice
to
their
state
representative
over
there
and
the
senator
that
represent
those
areas
would
make
a
difference
when
time
come
to
castle.
C
D
For
me,
but
again
they
all
get
my
dress,
like
I
promise
not
to
talk
anymore.
I
just
I
said
that
the
last
time
I
broke
in
the
deal
like
I
said
I
hope
you're
not
seeing
this.
As
being
pointed
at
you,
it
is
not
you
believe
me
it
should.
It
should
be.
Many
of
us
was
income
in
this
community
when
you
say
well,
how
did
how
did
the
school
board
raise
1.4
billion
dollars
for
new
schools
when
john
graham
altman
was
saying
no
new
taxes
and
that's
exactly
what
happened?
D
Is
this
area
raised
1.4
billion
dollars
to
replace
almost,
I
don't
know,
it'd
be
hard-pressed
to
find
a
dilapidated
school
in
charleston
county.
It
goes
from
georgetown
down
to
eddystone,
but
a
unified
effort
did
that.
So
that's
the
piece
that
I'm
talking
about
all
right,
that
those
those
guys
from
walhalla
up
and
up
around
clemson.
I
mean
what
are
they?
How
do
you
know
what
they
feel
about
drainage
down
here?
D
D
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilman
wearing
at
this
again,
that's
that's
practical,
yeah,
very
practical
way
to
look
at
it,
and
certainly
you
get
good
buy-in
around
this
effort,
particularly
given
the
the
dollar
amount
contributions
and-
and
I
know,
there's
a
couple
follow-up
items
I
saw
on
the
in
the
chat
chat
menu
for
for
items
to
go
over.
A
I
you
know
switching
gears
a
little
bit.
I
do
think
it's
until
we
get
this
behaved
opinion,
obviously
we'll
all
need
to
just
discuss
it
and
to
kalen's
point
earlier,
take
a
vote
on
it,
but
I
think
we're
fine
at
this
point,
following
the
ordinance
with
monthly
meetings,
except
in
the
event
that
we
need
to
call
a
meeting
to
happen
more
regularly
in
the
event,
there's
new
information
or
or
reason
to
do
so
so
anyway.
I
just
want
to
open
that
up
for
discussion
and
then
post
discussion.
We
can.
A
We
can
go
ahead
and
take
a
vote
for
it.
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
anybody
has
any
comments
or
thoughts
there.
So,
basically
it
would
just
be
hey
monthly.
We
go
to
monthly
meetings
except
in
the
event,
there's
something
that
we
need
to
some
specific
event.
We
need
to
meet
on
in
the
in
the
near
term,
which
the
councilmember
seeking's
point
could
could
come
very
quickly.
Given
the
given
the
pending
council
discussion.
A
Sure
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
motion
to
go
for
to
go
to
monthly
meetings
per
the
ordinance.
Do
I
have
a
second
second?
A
C
Yep
and
going
off
of
our
kind
of
periodic
every
other
bi-weekly
meeting
would
be
looking
at
january.
12Th
potentially
is
our
next
meeting,
but
just
stay
tuned
for
emails
and
calendar
invites
from
from
me
on
that
front.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Jory.
I
see
your
note
merry
christmas
happy
holidays
to
everybody
certainly
appreciate
that
all
right
well
great,
well
great
until
until
next
time
I
know
it
will
probably
be
some
email,
traffic
and
a
couple
follow-up
items
and
yeah.
I
look
forward
to
seeing
y'all,
hopefully
sooner,
but
at
the
very
least
in
the
new
year.