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From YouTube: Housing Feedback Session March 29, 2021
Description
In the fall we held four (4) Housing Labs and worked with Community Data Platforms to conduct a robust housing analysis to help us understand our housing and affordability challenges. In this feedback session, we invited participants to engage in a discussion about findings and related draft recommendations for the housing, mobility and economic development elements of the comprehensive plan. Feedback from participants will inform revisions to the final draft of the plan.
Click here to view the meeting slides: https://www.charlestoncityplan.com/s/Housing-Analysis-Slides.pptx
Click here to view notes from the discussion: https://www.charlestoncityplan.com/s/MARCH-29-HOUSING-meeting-notes.pdf
To review more findings from the Housing Analysis, visit :
https://www.charlestoncityplan.com/blog
Thank you!
A
All
right
before
we
go
into
sharing
the
findings
from
our
housing
analysis.
I
wanted
to
start
with
just
doing
giving
a
brief
overview
of
the
scope
of
the
housing
analysis,
specifically
the
scope
of
housing
in
terms
of
how
the
charleston
city
plan
can
and
will
address
housing,
so
per
state
law,
the
charleston
city
plan,
being
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
has
to
address
these
these
topics,
specifically.
So
what
our
current?
What's
the
state
of
our
current
housing
stock,
including
affordability?
A
What
are
our
current
and
future
housing
needs
of
taking
into
consideration
population
projections?
In
what
ways
are
we
hindering
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
in
terms
of
regulations
codes?
And
how
can
we
encourage
affordable
housing
development?
So
these
are
all
questions
that
are
part
of
the
housing
element.
A
That's
in
the
comprehensive
plan
act,
and
I
also
wanted
to
be
specific
about
when
we're
talking
about
affordability
and
specifically
in
this
housing
analysis.
We'll
say
the
word:
we'll
use
the
term
affordable
housing
a
lot
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
definitions
for
that,
depending
on
what
space
you're
in
and
whether
it's
you're
referring
to
city
code
or
a
funding
source,
but
we're
using
the
affordable.
A
Sorry
and,
and
so
they
calculate
affordability
for
different
households,
or
they
create
different
categories
of
affordability,
based
on
the
percentage
that
a
household
makes
of
the
area's
median
income.
So
a
single
person,
household
area,
meeting
income
for
charleston
is
56
700
and
that
that
household
makes
56
700
annually.
A
So
that's
just
one
example,
and
these
numbers
vary
depending
on
household
size,
so
there's
a
whole
table
with
with
what
those
numbers
are,
I'm
just
showing
you
a
snapshot
here
just
for
single
household
and
so
for
this
housing
analysis
when
we
say
affordable,
housing,
we're,
including
all
housing,
affordable
to
households
making
up
to
120
percent
the
ami
that
includes
low-income
housing,
so
we're
talking
all
from
zero
percent
to
120
percent
of
the
area.
Median
income.
A
A
Our
tools
are
a
little
bit
different
than
their
tools,
but
we
use
them
together
for
the
creation
and
preservation
of
affordable
housing.
So,
specifically,
the
department
of
planning
preservation,
sustainability,
uses
policy
tools
and
planning
tools
that
can
allow
for
greater
variety
of
housing
types.
We
can
create
incentives
for
developers
to
create,
afford
more
affordable
housing.
A
We
can
generate
funding
for
affordable
housing
through
fees
and
other
other
tools,
and
we
can
also
make
housing
more
affordable
by
minimizing
regular
regulatory
barriers.
The
department
of
housing,
community
development
administers
funding
from
a
variety
of
sources
to
create
affordable
housing,
specifically
for
low
to
moderate
income,
families
and
again
low
to
moderate
income.
That's
based
on
a
specific
range
of
households,
making
a
certain
area,
media
income,
and
then
city
of
charleston
housing
authority
is
charged
with
administering
local
public
housing
funds
for
low
and
very
low
income
families.
A
So
that's
typically
what
you
see:
sixty
percent
thirty
percent
below
the
area,
meeting
income
and
that's
what?
If
you've
heard
the
term
low
income
housing-
that's
typically
what's
being
referred
to
there,
but
we
all
are
working
together
for
the
creation
and
preservation
of
affordable
housing.
That's
receiving
some
kind
of
subsidy
or
deed,
restricted.
A
First
is
just
establishing
a
baseline,
so
excuse
my
dog,
so
how
much
of
charleston's
existing
housing
stock
is
affordable
and
to
whom
and
then
beyond
housing
costs.
We
wanted
that
this
came
up
a
lot
in
listening
sessions.
It's
not
just
the
cost
of
housing,
there's
many
more
barriers
to
housing
and
much
more.
That
comes
into
play
for
housing
choice,
and
so
specifically,
we
looked
at
as
well.
A
B
My
so
I'm
sure
that
was
a
lot
that
was
shared
with
you
very
quickly,
especially
if
this
is
your
first
time.
What
I
normally
like
to
do
is
ask
if
there's
if
one
person
can
share
just
one
question
and
I'm
sure
you
have
multiple
that
you
might
be
thinking
of
or
might
be
wanting
to
wait.
But
is
there
something
you'd
like
to
ask
in
response
to
what
chloe
shared.
C
I
did
appreciate
that
you
included
transportation
as
a
factor
in
housing,
affordability,
because
it
is
a
reality
that
no
matter
where
you
live,
there
is
some
kind
of
transportation
cost
associated
with
getting
to
and
from
work
proximity
to
your
job,
whether
it's
you're
paying
for
gas,
whether
it's
your
bicycle,
that
you
have
to
maintain
more
often
or
taking
the
bus.
So
I
think
that
is
a
factor.
That's
generally
overlooked,
and
I
guess
I
would
just
commend
you
guys
for
for
thinking
of
that.
A
Transportation
is
always
a
part
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
that
is
another
element
of
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
in
terms
of
looking
at
transportation
costs
in
a
housing
analysis
to
understand
affordability,
I
believe
this
is
the
first
time
that
we've
looked
at
it
in
a
comprehensive
plan.
Gianna
may
may
say
more.
I
believe
it
was
factored
in
for
the
housing
for
a
fair
charleston
report
and
john,
do
you
want
to
mention
that
briefly.
D
Yes,
it
was
I've
been
trying
to
be
quiet,
so
other
people
can
talk,
but
we
had
it
included
in
the
plan
because
of
the
amount
or
the
percentage
that
transportation
costs
play
in
a
family's
budget
or
in
a
household's
budget,
and
so
it
was
mentioned
there
that
it
represents
30
percent
of
costs
for
families
which
can
certainly
pivot
a
family
into
be
even
more
cost
burdened
if
they're
already
paying
over
30
of
their
income
for
housing.
Thank
you.
B
B
I
don't
know
if
I'm
saying
that
right,
I
hope
I'm
not
butchering
it,
but
it's
caption
cash
in.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
I
I'm
my
name
is
very
distinct,
so
I
like
to
make
sure
I
say
it
correctly.
Thank
you
for
correcting
me
all
right
and
she's
with
the
historic
charleston
foundation
and
we
have
julie
hicks.
That's
also
here
resident
of
she's
new
to
mount
pleasant
from
atlanta.
B
So
just
wanna,
it's
the
one
for
housing
for
fair
charleston
report,
and
then
he
did
another
one
for
the
2020
department
of
housing
and
community
development
consolidated
plan
just
for
reference.
If
you
all
want
to
refer
back
to
that
all
right,
I
think
we're
ready
to
move
on.
Thank
you
for
everyone's
thoughts
and
feedback.
C
E
So
we'll
begin,
we
were
curious
about
kind
of
our
numbers
of
construction.
We
know
that
construction,
housing
construction
has
increased
over
the
past
10
years
and
specifically
here
this
chart
is
showing
you
our
housing
growth
rate,
which
is
basically
the
new
units
that
are
constructed
as
a
percentage
of
the
existing
units,
and
so
here
you
can
see
kind
of
some
of
the
cities
that
we
know
to
be
hot
for
housing.
You
know,
greenville
is,
is
kind
of
leading
the
way
there
in
our
region,
but
then
durham
and
raleigh.
D
E
E
E
We
see
that
neighborhoods
with
the
majority
of
black
residents
are
more
than
twice
as
likely
to
be
cost
burdened
as
those
with
the
majority
of
white
residents
and
to
figure
that
to
find
that
figure,
we
kind
of
looked
at
all
of
the
neighborhoods
and
found
neighborhoods
that
had
a
a
majority,
so
over
50
percent
of
the
households
within
that
neighborhood
were
cost
burdened.
And
then
we
looked
at
the
percentage
of
white
neighborhoods,
where
that
was
the
case
and
black
neighborhoods,
where
that
was
the
case,
predominantly
black
neighborhoods
and
predominantly
white
neighborhoods.
E
E
E
And
so
you
know
when
we
think
about
affordable
housing
units
oftentimes,
we
think
about
deed,
restricted
housing,
which
is
basically
housing
units
that
have
been
designate
or
been
provided
through
public
funding.
I'm
gonna
mute
somebody
real,
quick,
sorry
got
a
little
distracted
there
with
the
phone
call,
but
anyway
yeah.
So
when
we
think
about
affordable
housing
oftentimes,
we
think
of
publicly
subsidized
housing
or
housing
that
is
being
paid
for
either
through
state
tax
incentives
or
local
funds.
E
And
so
we
were
curious
to
see
you
know
of
our
existing
affordable
housing
units
and
that
is
units
affordable
to
under
120
mi.
You
know
what
percentage
of
those
are
publicly
subsidized
or
deed
restricted,
and
so
what
we
found
is
that
you
know
we
have
actually
about
76
000
housing
units
that
are
affordable
to
households
under
120
percent
ami,
but
only
six
percent
of
those
are
deed,
restricted
as
low
income
and
workforce
housing,
which
means
that
you
know
for
that.
E
For
that
other
70
000
units
we
we
have
very
little
control
over
keeping
those
units
affordable
for
people.
So
you
know
when
we
have
public
dollars
put
into
this,
then
we
have
a
little
bit
more
control
over
how
long
these
units
are
going
to
be
affordable
for
at
what
income
levels
are
these
rents
capped
at,
and
things
like
that.
So
that's
something
that
we
were,
that
we
really
stood
out
during
this
analysis,
and
this
is
my
last
little
data
data
slide,
so
so
yeah.
E
And
so
obviously
you
know
this
is
irrespective
to
things
like
a
number
of
bedrooms
or
number
of
bathrooms,
and
so
this
you
know,
for
example,
on
the
charleston
peninsula.
You
know
a
three
bedroom
is
going
to
be
more
expensive
than
a
three
bedroom
on
john's
island,
and
so
you
know
we're
just
looking
at
the
average
amount
that
people
are
spending
on
rent
or
home
ownership,
but
yeah.
So
we
can
see
that
transportation
really
really
does
pay.
E
Like
I
said
you
know,
household
size
is
a
big
factor
that
we're
talking
about
here,
but
you
know
we
wanted
to
think
about
other
other
factors
that
contribute
to
housing
choice
as
well,
so
you
know
household
size,
family
size.
Some
people
aren't
able
to
live
in
certain
neighborhoods
because
they
need
a
certain
type
of
house.
F
E
So,
oh,
and
then
here
at
the
bottom,
is
another
really
important.
Little
tidbit
that
you
know,
six
percent
of
our
residential
parcels
are
vulnerable,
will
be
vulnerable
to
tidal
flooding
with
three
feet
of
sea
level
rise.
So
what
we're
seeing
is
that
our
housing
stock
not
only
is
in
short
supply
now
it's
actually
being
restricted
due
to
sea
level
rise
over
time,
and
so
that's
something
we
really
need
to
think
about
too,
and
then
I'm
going
to
kick
it
over
to
chloe
to
talk
about
our
housing
engagement.
A
A
These
are
the
spot
responses
we
received
varying
from
not
concerned
at
all
to
somewhat
concerned
to
very
concerned,
and
so
I've
broken
it
down
by
area
here.
For
those
of
you
who
are
calling
in
and
can't
see
the
screen,
I
have
south
of
calhoun.
It's
about
39,
somewhat
concerned
13
very
concerned
midtown
peninsula,
42
percent,
somewhat
concerned
12
percent
very
concerned.
The
neck
area
is
33
somewhat
concerned.
8
percent
very
concerned
enter
west
ashley,
32
percent
somewhat
concerned
percent
very
concerned
outer
was
actually
27
somewhat
concerned.
Seven
percent
very
concerned.
A
James
island
is
33
percent
somewhat
concerned
8
very
concerned
johns
island
31,
somewhat
concerned
eight
percent
very
concerned
and
then
canoy
peninsula
18
somewhat
concerned
4
very
concerned.
I
regret
reading
that
out
loud.
It's
when
you
pick
a
bad
karaoke
song,
but
thanks
for
your
patience,
but
I
think
it's
one
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
with
this
is
that
we
did
not
get
represent
responses
representational
of
the
city's
population,
and
so
we
looked
at.
A
As
their
primary
reason
for
being
concerned
about
their
ability
to
stay
in
their
current
housing,
so
I've
also
included
in
here
just
to
show
you
know,
people
who
reported
not
at
all.
Why
weren't?
They
not
concerned
so
naturally,
because
they're,
financially
secure
job
security
or
they've
moved
somewhere
else
where
they
were
able
to
afford
it
or
they
bought
when
it
was
affordable.
A
So
just
it's
not
just
about
not
being
able
to
afford
where
you
live,
but
it
has
these
other
implications
as
well.
In
terms
of
livability
and
quality
of
life,
the
beyond
cost
beyond
rent
or
mortgage
home
maintenance
is
is
a
is
a
concern,
especially
for
elderly
residents,
high
eviction
rates.
So
even
if
you're
able
to
afford
housing
at
one
point
being
able
to
stay
in
your
housing,
there's
barriers
beyond
cost
being
stuck
in
substandard
housing.
A
A
So
why
does
housing,
affordability
matter?
This
is
just
a
summation
of
sort
of
everything
that
we've
talked
to
up
to
this
point,
the
displacement
being
able
to
afford
to
stay
in
long-time
neighborhoods
being
able
to
stay
in
housing
homelessness
when
you're
not
able
to
stay
in
housing
or
not
able
to
obtain
housing
in
the
first
place,
increase
traffic
moving
further
away
from
where
you
work.
B
Thank
you
chloe
all
right,
so
I
don't
have
to
I'm
sure
should
not
have
to
ask
if
there's
a
question:
if
you
are
not,
if
you
don't
have
a
question,
then
something
must
be
wrong
so
or
if
you
have
a
thought
and
that's
just
being
honest,
I
mean
we.
We
live
in
a
beautiful
city.
However,
as
stated
like
what
chloe
shared
and
by
what
jim
shared
that
we
there's
also
there's
a
low
representation
of
the
population.
B
That
is
most
impacted
that
participated
in
this,
so
these
numbers
could
actually
be
way
higher
than
they
are
so
I'd
like
to
just
get
the
conversation
going
to
hear.
If
you
have
any
questions,
if
you
have
any
thoughts,
you
have
the
housing
team
in
front
of
you.
Please
do
ask
your
questions
so
that
you
can
feel
like
you
were
heard
or
just
if
you
want
to
give
have.
If
you
have
any
thoughts
or
feedback.
E
F
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
when
we
talked
about.
I
know
we
talked
about
transportation
costs
as
being
an
additional
burden,
but
did
you
also
consider
folks
who
did
the
daily
food
the
ability
to
be
able
to
eat
daily
insurance
like
health,
insurance,
life
insurance?
Those
kind
of
thing-
and
you
know-
have
a
lot
of
elderly
people
that
have
grandchildren
and
nieces
and
nephews,
and
all
that
living
with
them,
that
additional
burden
is
also
something
they
have
to
absorb.
F
E
E
A
Yeah
eddie,
that's
a
great
question.
I'm
going
to
show
a
quick.
This
is
on
the
website
on
the
charleston
city
plan
website.
It
has
more
data
if
folks
this
is
this
is
a
we
tried
to
get
it
consolidated
down,
so
we
had
time
to
discuss,
but
there
is
more
data
on
our
on
our
website.
If
people
want
to
dig
deeper-
and
so
just
this
shows
a
broader
picture
in
terms
of
cost
of
living
in
charleston,
so
we
rank
high
in
cost
of
living.
A
Second
to
washington,
dc
sort
of
these
regional
comparison,
cities,
which
is
which
is
significant.
Considering
that
our
area
median
income
is
much
lower
than
washington,
dc's,
and
so
you
can
see
here
which,
which
of
those
categories
bring
that
number
up
and
how
those?
How
does
healthcare
compare
to
other
areas,
utilities
compared
to
other
areas?
So
this
data
is
up
there
and,
I
would
say,
just
adding
on
the
gem.
You
know
this
came
up
in
listening
sessions
too.
It's
not
you
know
it's
not
just
housing
costs,
there's
all
these
other
things
insurance
for
sure.
G
Do
you
think,
when
we
looked
at
the
part
of
the
survey
that
showed
the
concern
or
not
really
concern,
and
we
looked
at
the
various
locations,
in
particular
the
islands?
You
think
what
we
may
have
not
have
later
on
is
people
who
moved
to
the
area
once
you
move
in.
You
normally
can
afford
the
property
that
you're
buying.
A
That's
a
great
question:
we
did
not
pull
that.
We
did
not
cross-reference
this
data
with
that
question,
but
we
can,
I
believe
we
did
ask
in
the
survey
how
long
people
have
lived,
how
long
people
have
been
a
part
of
the
charleston
community,
and
so
I
believe
we
can
pull
out
that
answer.
That's
a
great
question.
Yeah.
B
H
Yes,
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
have
a
question
when
it
comes
to
solutions
to
this
one.
One
obvious
solution
is:
is
increasing
the
amount
of
affordable
housing
that's
built,
but
because
we
have
such
on
the
peninsula
and
other
areas.
It's
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
land
and
from
what
I
understand,
the
incentives
that
that
are
provided
to
the
builders
are
they're,
not
taking
advantage
of
the
opportunity
to
build
in
affordable
housing.
H
A
That
I
I
think
that
we
might
answer
your
question
in
the
next
section,
where
we're
going
through
the
our
draft
recommendations
and
community's
input
regarding
recommendations
as
well.
So
definitely
hold
that
and
let's
go
through
the
next
section
and
then,
if
we
still
haven't
answered
it,
then
we
can
address
it.
Then.
A
A
So
we
saw
strong
support
for
the
first
three,
not
as
much
support
for
duplexes
triplex's,
four
plexes
and
flexibility
for
building
designs
and
architectural
standards.
But
I
did
want
to
note
again
pulling
out
the
responses
from
the
populations
that
were
underrepresented
in
survey
results
among
black
and
african
american
respondents.
Lower
income
respondents,
youth,
tenants,
upper
peninsula
residents.
There
was
more
support
for
all
tools,
with
the
exception
that
only
30
38,
so
less
than
overall
results
of
black
african
american
respondents
were
in
support
of
the
smaller
private
yards
and
more
shared
community
open
space
strategy.
A
So
the
way
I'm
going
to
present
this
is
I'm
going
to
start
with
recommendations
that
came
out
of
both
the
housing,
labs
and
and
the
in
the
there's
an
other
an
option.
From
this
last
question.
Here
there
was
an
option
that
says
other,
so
people
could
write
in
a
recommendation
or
a
strategy
that
they
would
have
liked
to
they'd
like
to
see
the
city
pursue
so
looking
through.
All
of
those
other
responses
and
also
the
notes
from
the
listening
sessions
in
the
fall.
A
So
the
community
expressed
that
we
need
more
housing
for
all
income
levels.
Life
stages
and
household
sizes
need
a
mixture
of
housing
types
we
need
to
build
up
and
in
not
out
so
preventing
sprawl
so
and
that
gets
back
to
you
the
further
away
you
move,
even
if
it's
more
affordable,
that's
the
further
you're
driving
on
the
road,
so
building
up
and
in
would
keep
people
closer
to
work
to
their
communities,
allowing
smaller
homes
and
lots,
encouraging
sustainability
and
allowing
for
creativity,
tiny
homes,
putting
housing
above
commercial.
E
E
And
then
you
know
making
sure
that
those
types
of
developments
are
in
close
proximity
to
amenities
that
people
are
interested
in
living
near
and
then
you
know.
We
especially
called
out
the
loca
low
country,
rapid
transit
route
for
an
area
that
we
need
to
incentivize,
transit,
oriented
development
and
some
of
that
mixed
use
and
mixed
income,
and
also
affordable
housing
development
and
then
number
three
update
the
zoning
ordinance
to
apply
conservation
design
principles.
E
A
And
the
second
group
being
specifically
recommendations
from
the
community
for
affordability
and
housing
security,
so
prioritizing
investing
in
long-time
black
residents
and
business
owners,
investigate
the
disproportionate
impact
of
the
board
of
architectural
review
standards
and
other
regulatory
codes
in
general,
providing
support
and
education
to
tenants.
So
this
is
some
eviction
prevention
type
strategies
collaborating
regionally.
So
it's
not
just
a
local
issue.
It's
a
regional
issue
simultaneously
address
and
here's
eddie's
comment:
wages,
food
insecurity,
health
insurance
include
homelessness,
more
integrity,
integrally
and
housing
strategies.
A
There
are
some
the
I'm
going
to
read
some
comments
that
the
community
or
ideas
that
the
community
had
that
has
asterisks
by
them.
The
asterisk
means
that
these
strategies
are
not
currently
an
option
for
the
city
of
charleston.
It
would
require
state
level
approval
or
legislation
prior
to
the
city
being
able
to
pursue
anything
like
this,
so
the
community
benefits
agreements,
one
strategy
that
would
fall
under
that
category.
Mandatory
inclusionary
zoning,
then
property
tax
freezes
for
long
time
residents.
E
All
right,
and
so
some
that
directly
related
to
that
community
input.
We
have
establishing
working
with
the
charleston
redevelopment
corporation,
to
establish
a
land
bank
to
put
away
suitable
lands
for
affordable
housing
development
for
the
future,
implement
reduced
regulatory
barriers
that
add
time
and
cost.
E
E
E
E
Then
we
have
policies,
adopt
policies
to
increase
housing,
security
for
existing
residents
and
areas
at
risk
risk
of
displacement,
and
so
I
think
chloe
mentioned
that
at
the
beginning
of
the
presentation
that
that
was
one
of
our
three
key
questions
was
you
know
what
which
areas
can
can?
Can
we
target
these
policies
toward
and
what
specific
policies
do
we
need
to
adopt
to
reduce
displacement
and-
and
we
called
out
here
historic
african
american
settlement
communities?
E
So
that's
a
big
project
that
chloe
and
some
others
have
been
working
on
is
identifying
those
communities
around
the
city
because
they
are
numerous
and
then
you
know,
preserving
those
areas
or
making
sure
that
new
development
is
in
line
with
those
historic
african-american
settlement
communities.
Then
we
have,
let's
see
this.
I
can't
remember.
E
I
think
it's
sandy
okay,
there
sandy
this
was
sandy's
question
before
is
you
know?
How
can
we
allocate
or
resources
and
staff
to
assist
lower
income
homeowners
on
the
peninsula,
maintain
in
maintaining
their
historic
homes?
And
so
that's
something
you
know
that
we're
interested
in
doing
and
that
we
already
do,
but
you
know
increasing
those
resources,
let's
see
preserving
that
naturally
occurring
affordable
housing.
E
That
was
that
70
000
figure
or
76
000
figure
that
I
dropped
a
few
slides
ago
of
those
houses
that
we
don't
have
any
control
over
that
are
of
currently
affordable.
So
how
can
we
preserve
those
and
then?
Finally,
our
last
recommendation
is
kind
of
a
blanket
one
and
that's
to
fully
implement
our
recommendations
from
the
housing
for
a
fair
charleston
report,
and
so
a
lot
of
these
that
we
just
called
out
are
already
in
that
report.
F
F
I
I
think
five
is
incredibly
important
because
of
the
fact
that
honestly
prioritize
investing
in
long-time
residents
and
business
owners,
I
mean
the
reason
why
that
is
so
important
is
that
you
have
one
of
the
reasons
for
why
so
many
people
want
to
come
here.
They
want
to
look
and
see
what
was
here
before
and
we
need
to
have.
We
need
to
have
a
prior
priority
placed
on
people
with
businesses
and
homes
who
have
been
here
for
70
80
years
and
that's
gonna.
F
I
think
that
that
the
question
is
that
I
think
that
that
should
be
something
that
the
city
should
invest
in.
The
city
should
have
that
as
a
major
priority,
because
I
mean
you
can
apply
for
grants
and
all
24
7,
but
people
to
the
the
real
thrust
of
of
supporting
your
own
should
come
from
the
city.
So
I
I
want
to
see
the
relationship
between
five
and
ten,
if
you
glory
or
jim
and
are
those
two
separate
things
or
are
they
both
interconnected
and
tied
together.
A
F
A
Okay,
so
that
that
came
from
the
community
and
the
number
10
here
is
this
the
recommendation
actually
for
the
city
plan.
So
one
is
what
we
heard
from
the
community
and
then
this
is
our
attempt
at
drafting
a
recommendation
responding
to
what
we
heard
and
also
what
we've
seen
in
the
data,
so
it
if
it
seems
similar,
that's
good.
That
means
that.
F
It
can
we
make
it
happen
so
that
you
know
that
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
ten
years
from
now
we
said
well,
this
used
to
be
the
brook
street
restaurant
and
hotel
10
year.
You
know
that
that
kind
of
thing,
I
think,
how
can
we,
how
can
we
expedite
and
speed
this
up
and
place
that
onus
on
us
on
the
city,
because
it
is
our
city,
so
so
I'm
open
and
and
available
for
to
hear
how?
How
how
you
can
help
us
do
that.
E
E
Income
changes
the
amount
of
people
that
are
renting
versus
owning
in
a
neighborhood,
a
lot
of
things
that
we've
learned
kind
of
lead
towards
that
displacement,
and
so
you
know,
with
this
recommendation,
it's
kind
of
the
first
step
in
in
diving
into
some
of
that
data
that
we
have
to
identify
areas
that
you
know
might
not
even
be
in
our
on
our
radar.
But
the
data
might,
you
know,
lead
us
to
a
certain
neighborhood
that
could
be
at
risk
of
displacement,
but
yeah.
D
Thank
you
chloe.
Certainly,
I
would
answer
eddie's
question
by
saying
what
you
do
in
your
day.
Job
eddie
relative
to
preserving
housing
is
an
answer
to
number
10.,
one
of
the
things
that
we've
talked
about
throughout
the
recommendations
and
even
the
input
that
the
community
has
given
lends
to
additional
funding.
D
How
are
our
legislators
working
towards
recognizing
housing
as
a
right
of
every
citizen
of
every
resident
of
the
state
of
south
carolina?
And
how
can
we,
as
housing,
advocates
and
residents
of
the
city
of
charleston,
keep
this
priority
before
them,
because
it
has
to
be
a
priority
for
more
than
20
years?
D
The
department
of
housing
and
community
development
depended
solely
on
funding
from
the
department
of
hud
to
facilitate
preservation
of
housing
and
creation
of
housing,
and
I
must
say
even
my
predecessors
did
an
amazing
job
leveraging
little
funds
in
order
to
have
the
impact
that
we've
had
over
the
years.
We've
gotten
smarter
and
a
little
bit
more
strategic,
but
even
with
those
strategies
there
needs
to
be
more
because
the
problem
is
so
prevalent.
The
demand
is
so
great.
Does
that
mean
we
stop
doing
the
things
that
we
know
are
right?
No,
not
at
all.
D
Some
of
what
we've
heard,
and
that
has
been
evidenced
by
the
data
is
nothing
new.
I
remember
three
years
in
a
row
where
area
median
income
did
not
move
and
costs
continue
to
rise,
and
so
what
does
that
do
for
an
economy
and
recognizing-
and
this
is
my
other
point-
recognizing
and
understanding
and
educating
our
community
on
what
housing
is,
because
it
is
an
economic
impetus,
it
is
managed
if
you
will
or
facilitated
by
what
is
going
on
in
the
economy.
So
how
are
we
bringing
jobs
and
industry
in
where
we're
giving
them
incentives?
D
That's
in
our
state-
and
this
is
just
not
likened
to
charleston-
you
can
talk
to
jenny
in
greenville.
You
can
talk
to
deborah
and
colombia.
Theirs
is
not
as
bad
as
ours
in
greenville,
but
there
are
some
problems
and
challenges
that
have
persisted
for
years.
So
as
we
as
residents
and
those
that
have
the
ears
or
can
get
the
ears
of
those
folks
that
make
decisions
need
to
say,
we
need
higher
wages.
That
also
means
we
need
to
educate
better.
We
have
an
organization
that
we've
funded
for
many
years.
D
That
manages
what
we
call
a
fair
housing
hotline.
That
same
organization
also
provides
training
for
persons
who
need
financial
literacy
and
education.
All
of
those
things
are
important
from
helping
folks
to
transition
from
point
a
to
point
b,
maybe
they're
a
renter.
Now
maybe
they
want
to
be
a
homeowner?
Maybe
they
can't
be
that
immediately,
but
there
are
methodologies
and
ways
to
do
that.
D
We
still
have
to
make
that
happen,
so
there
has
to
be
demand
on
leadership
in
order
for
change
to
happen,
and
we
have
to
be
more
intentional
about
seeing
programs,
initiatives
and
processes
in
place
and
not
growing
weary.
I've
grown
weary
from
time
to
time
and
I'm
in
this
work
every
day,
not
growing
weary.
D
When
you
don't
see
the
evidence
when
you
have
sent
out
that
flyer
and
sent
out
that
piece
of
of
information
relative
to
housing-
and
you
still
have
nimby
in
your
community,
they
don't
want
certain
housing
in
certain
neighborhoods
still
today
in
charleston,
we
still
deal
with
that.
So
that's
a
challenge,
so
I
would
just
say
to
you
all:
I
commend
you
on
the
recommendations.
I
think
they're
excellent.
D
I
would
simply
add
from
the
standpoint
of
economics
and
economic
development
and
increasing
wages
for
our
residents
in
the
city,
whatever
that
takes
additional
education
on
the
job,
training,
challenging
the
googles
and
all
of
these
other
larger
companies
to
ensure
that
these
folks
can
get
training
that
enables
them
to
earn
the
kind
of
money
that
is
needed
to
afford
a
decent
home.
I
would
just
say,
and
and
don's
not
here,
to
talk
about
it
and
I'm
going
over
a
lot
of
stuff,
but
I
was
being
quiet
and
now
it's
all
coming
out.