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Description
Agenda:
I. Review segments of the draft City Plan
II. Public Comment
III. Discussion
Click the link to view the meeting slides: https://www.charleston-sc.gov/DocumentCenter/View/28966/Special-PC-Meeting-Slides-March-18-2021
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This
meeting
is
a
special
meeting.
The
only
item
on
the
agenda
is
to
get
updates
from
the
city
staff
on
the
city
plan,
and
I
don't
know
that
anybody,
I
think
chloe
told
me.
No
one
has
signed
up
to
speak
so
that
if
any
commission
members
have
comments
or
thoughts
we'll
take
those
after
the
presentations
chris
who
is
going
to,
I
think
commission
members
we
have
just
for
the
record
with
us.
Are
mr
lissane
miss
harrison.
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Okay,
this
is
a
very
brief
update.
We've
been
giving
you
all
more
in-depth
updates
of
engagement
along
the
way
and
the
the
main
update
is
that
we've
officially
launched
the
spring
engagement
calendar,
and
so
that's
all
online.
If
you
go
to
charlestoncityplan.com
backslash
calendar,
you
can
see
all
of
the
events,
all
the
public
open
open
to
anybody.
Community
events
coming
up
through
the
end
of
april
find
details
locations
times.
You
can
register
if
it's
an
online
meeting,
and
so
we
have
a
a
lot
up
ahead
of
us.
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As
donna
said,
I
don't
know
when
we'll
sleep,
but
we
we
will
we'll
find
time.
We're
mostly
just
excited
to
see
what
people
have
to
say,
and
so
it's
it's
gonna
be.
We
have
an
exciting
six
weeks
up
ahead
of
us.
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
go
into
much
more
detail
than
that.
Do
commissioners
have
any
questions
about
this
particular
part
before
we
dive
into
the
the
good
stuff.
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I
need
to
unmute
myself
there
we
go
okay,
so
we
are
going
to
run
through
some
of
the
plan
elements.
This
is
certainly
not
the
entire
plan.
This
is
certainly
not
every
page
of
it.
We're
still
working
on
lots
and
lots
of
it,
but
these
are
some
of
the
key
highlights
and
some
of
the
key
kind
of
decision
points.
We
think
that
are
good
for
you
all
to
see
and
be
thinking
about
and
give
us
comments
on
today.
So
I'm
happy
to
be
interrupted
and
also
to
bring
in
key
elements
of
staff.
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Who've
been
working
on
different
elements
of
the
plan
because
we
have
broken
it
up
between
our
entire
planning
division
so
that
we're
all
doing
a
share
of
it
and
with
that
I'm
just
going
to
start
moving
through
so
population.
Of
course,
you
can't
do
a
plan
without
having
a
good
sense
of
what
your
population
is.
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The
first
hurdle
we've
got
on
this
is
that
we
have
a
delay
with
the
census
information.
We
are
probably
not
going
to
be
able
to
have
census
information
in
this
plan
for
2020,
because
it
is
not
expected
to
be
out
until
september.
Now
that
may
even
end
up
delaying
or
creating
hurdles
for
the
city
with
redistricting
as
well.
You
all
may
have
seen
some
news
stories
on
that,
but
unfortunately
the
census
info
is
not
in
now.
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The
good
thing
is:
we've
got
a
pretty
good
handle
based
on
our
internal
estimates
and
the
american
community
surveys
estimates
from
2019
that
gives
a
good
sense
of
what's
going
on,
but
it's
not
the
complete
report
that
we
would
have
gotten
had
the
census
been
complete
on
time.
It's
kind
of
you
know
to
be
expected,
given
that
we
were
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic
and
it
greatly
impacted
the
census
and
their
ability
to
do
their
job,
but
that
is
the
the
kind
of
fact
of
life.
Moving
on
from
there.
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I
don't
know
that,
there's
that
much
that's
going
to
change.
I
think
we
would
be
more
interested
in
doing
that
if
there
were
a
lot
of
change.
Okay,
we
were
expecting
from
our
predictions
and
the
american
community
survey,
so
we
will
see-
and
there
are
going
to
be
some
wild
cards
in
the
census
info,
such
as
how
the
everything
work
with
you
know,
students
that
are
college.
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You
know
our
downtown
population
has
a
very
large
percentage
of
students
that
are
at
the
citadel
in
the
college
of
charleston
and
musc,
and
you
know
we
aren't
completely
sure
about
how
that's
going
to
be
impacted.
It
may
be
that
our
downtown
population
has
a
bigger
drop
than
we're,
expecting
we're
actually
expecting
it
to
go
up
a
little
bit,
but
with
the
way
the
census
gets,
you
know
finally
enumerated.
It
may
be
that
it
goes
down
a
little
bit
so
we'll
watch
it
and
we
certainly
could
add
on
if
we
need
to.
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You
know
a
good
growth
good
bit
of
growth,
but
not
nearly
what
we're
seeing
in
mount
pleasant
or
even
north
charleston
or
somerville
or
goose
creek,
or
look
at
hanahan.
That's
increased
50
in
that
same
time
period,
so
the
metro
area
itself
increased
at
20
percent.
So
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about
how
rapidly
things
are
growing,
but
charleston
is
growing
less
rapidly
than
some
of
those
other
places
and
then
how
our
population
has
changed
with
our
density
in
the
city,
of
course,
in
1920
we
were
much
denser
jurisdiction.
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We're
told
that
there
are
20
22,
000
people
every
day
in
the
medical
district,
so
one
of
the
greatest
concentrations
of
employment
and
people
gathering
in
the
charleston
region,
if
not
the
greatest
but
medical
university,
is
definitely
our
largest
employer
in
the
city
and
then
largest
employers
in
charleston
county.
The
joint
base
charleston,
which
is
22
000..
Of
course,
that's
spread
between
the
air
force
base
and
the
naval
weapons
area.
And
then
medical
university
is
with
our
stated
and
the
school
district
throughout
the
county.
And
then
we've
got
7000
boeing,
company
and
5500
rupert.
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So
anyway,
give
you
a
sense
of
where
our
jobs
are
coming
from
and
then
to
get
you
a
sense
of
how
growth
has
occurred
in
the
regional
job
creation
areas.
Food
and
culinary
jobs
are
those
that
have
grown
the
most,
not
a
big
surprise.
We
might
call
these
hospitality
jobs
to
a
degree,
although
they
don't
include
the
hotel
aspect,
but
it's
not
a
big
surprise
that
charleston
is
a
big
restaurant
town
and
we've
seen
a
lot
of
growth
in
that
area
so
and
I'm
happy
to
stop
on
any
of
these
slides.
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It's
more
helping
the
existing
businesses,
and
so
one
of
the
things
we
are
talking
about
is
the
idea
of
creating
an
actual
office
of
economic
development
or
manager
of
economic
development
in
the
current
business
and
neighborhood
services,
department,
division
of
our
department,
and
that
could
give
us
the
ability
to
work
to
recruit
some
more
in
different
employment
areas,
particularly
for
areas
like
you
know,
west
ashley,
where
we're
really
trying
to
create
some
more
jobs
and
in
the
tech
sector.
So
it's
it's
something
that
we're
thinking
about
and
would
love
input
on.
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We
want
to
also
create
targeted
goals
for
each
area
of
the
city
and
work
with
the
corresponding
economic
development
offices
in
charleston,
berkeley
counties.
That's
really
where
the
real
economic
development
comes
out
of
those
county
economic
development
offices,
but
anyway
do
that
to
have
a
unified
approach.
We
want
to
focus
on
transit,
oriented
business
incentives
for
offset
in
parking
and
business
fees
or
other
fees
associated
with
opening
a
business,
and
we
want
to
research
additional
incentive
options
for
small
and
local
businesses
to
reduce
overhead
and
leasing
rates,
allow
for
competition
with
larger
national
chains.
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So
there
will
be
more
info
in
the
economic
development
area,
but
that's
just
a
snippet
of
some
of
the
things
that
we
think
are
key
findings
and
key
recommendations
so
now
moving
on
into
natural
resources,
so
citywide
green
space.
This
is
a
map
that
is
very
important
to
understand
because
what
you
see
here
in
either
well
the
water,
obviously
but
in
the
park
area
in
dark,
green
and
the
conserved
lands
in
the
medium
green
is
the
amount
of
land
that
is
conserved
via
conservation,
easements
or
outright
ownership
by
governmental
entities.
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Things
like
that
and
there's
a
huge
amount
of
it
and
later
on
in
the
presentation,
we'll
talk
about
percentages
of
the
city
they're
in
conserved
lands,
but
it's
a
very
important
thing
to
understand
is
that
there
already
is
a
lot
of
conserved
land.
Do
we
need
to
do
more
absolutely,
but
we
have
a
good
head
start
on
the
amount
of
conserved
land
there
is
in
the
charleston
region
or
and
the
city
of
charleston.
This
is
information
from
wagner
and
ball.
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That
is
very
important
when
we're
looking
at
where
land
uses
would
be
and
how
we
grow
as
a
city
to
understand
where
the
denser
tree
canopy
is,
and
obviously
it's
less
dense
in
areas
of
the
greatest
concentration
of
development.
And
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
things
we
can
do
to
help
mitigate
that
with
redevelopment
and
with
street
trees.
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So
this
gives
you
a
sense
of
again
where
better
development
sites
are
like
along
clements
ferry
road
along
cm,
rittenberg,
medium
level,
development
sites,
some
of
these
bees
ferry
sites
and
some
of
these
things
along
sam
savannah
highway
and
then,
where
you're,
really
getting
into
more
problematic
areas,
is
where
you
have
more
of
the
pure
pink
group.
Soils.
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Road
on
james
island,
as
well
as
areas
adjacent
to
the
urban
growth
boundary
in
west
ashley
and
the
wando
area
and
the
kinhoy
peninsula,
and
then
continue
to
provide
and
expand
the
parks
system
to
include
large
and
small
parks
and
promote
equitable
access
and
safe
alternatives
to
green
space
and,
of
course,
there's
a
parks
plan
that
is
being
worked
on
right
now
as
well.
That
will
be
doing
just
these
very
things
as
a
part
of
its
recommendations
so
now
into
cultural
resources.
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We
have
a
final
draft
of
those
communities
that
have
been
vetted
with
community
members
and
so
that
we're
able
to
be
more
specific
with,
whereas
in
other
areas
of
the
city,
those
are
still
sort
of
works
in
progress
and
have
not
been
fully
vetted
yet
with
community
members
and
then
for
john's
island.
We
have
contacts
but
have
are
still
trying
to.
I
did
we're
still
working
with
the
community
members
there
to
identify
where
in
john's
island,
and
so
that
process
is
still
ongoing
and
we
have
not.
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All
right,
so
some
of
our
draft
recommendations
in
the
cultural
resources
area
are
to
build
and
maintain
and
preserve
an
array
of
first-class
cultural
facilities
and
sites,
of
course,
we're
showing
our
new.
I
am
the
international
african-american
museum,
which
is
going
to
open
soon
to
support
policies,
incentives
and
plans
that
stimulate
historic
preservation
and
the
growth
of
cultural
resources,
with
particular
focus
on
those
relating
to
african-american
heritage
and
history,
to
identify
and
protect
those
african-american
settlement
communities
and
encourage
public
and
private
investment.
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The
growth
and
development
of
charleston's
arts
communities
and
research,
ways
to
support
african-american
houses
of
worship
and
congregations
around
the
city,
because
you
all
have
heard
a
lot
about
that
concerns
about
the
departure
of
african-american
churches
from
downtown
and
what
would
happen
to
those
structures.
If
the
congregations
do
move-
and
things
like
that.
So
so
we
are
going
to
be
working
in
more
detail
on
the
priority
investment
and
community
facilities
elements.
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D
So
moving
into
transportation
and
again
we
have
a
citywide
transportation
plan
that
will
be
wrapped
into
this
document.
That
was
done
a
couple
of
years
ago
by
our
traffic
and
transportation
folks
and
some
consultants,
but
we
will
just
give
some
updates
on
some
of
those
projects
and
some
of
the
overall
transportation
improvements
that
are
coming
and
some
of
the
things
that
are
really
gonna
radically
change
our
ability
to
get
around
our
region.
D
These
are
the
future
major
transportation
projects
in
the
charleston
region,
and
these
are
all
funded
projects
that
will
be
happening
depending
on
funding
availability
in
some
instances.
But
in
most
instances
they
are
fully
funded,
the
one
that
that
we
are
still
waiting
to
get
a
little
bit
more
info
on,
of
course,
is
526
and
what
the
full
funding
cost
will
be
on
that.
D
D
The
right-of-way
has
already
been
obtained
and
the
design
is
done
and
final
details
are
being
ironed
out
and
that
should
get
under
construction.
Hopefully,
there's
later
this
year,
central
park,
road
and
riverland
drive
intersection
improvements
which
I
believe
the
county
has
decided
on
the
approach
on
that
the
folly
road
bike
and
pedestrian
improvements,
including
new
sidewalks.
Along
folly,
road
and
protected
bike
lanes
and
then
fort
johnson,
road
and
camp
road
intersection
improvements.
D
We've
heard
from
the
community
in
these
from
neighborhoods
from
our
surveys
from
our
community
meetings,
and
there
is
huge
amount
of
interest
in
the
community
on
sidewalks
the
ability
to
walk
and
the
ability
to
ride
a
bike.
And
you
know
that's
not
new-
for
plans
in
charleston,
of
course,
but
it
really
is
coming
to
roost.
I
think
in
this
plan
and
in
what
we've
heard
over
the
last
year
as
we've
gotten
ready
for
this
plan.
So
that's
why
you're,
seeing
so
much
emphasis
on
bike
and
other
forms
of
transportation
housing.
D
So
another
key
area
of
emphasis
in
this
plan
between
housing
and
our
overall
living
with
water
concepts.
That
is
the
the
real
crux
of
this
plan.
So
we're
gonna
go
in
a
little
bit
more
detail
here,
so
the
average
number
of
new
unions
approved
annually.
This
is
some
new
data.
That
is
very
interesting
because
everybody
thinks
of
you
know:
charleston
is
growing
so
much
faster
than
everywhere
else.
Well,
actually,
greenville
is
growing
even
faster
than
we
are
improving,
like
3.2
3.3
of
their
existing
housing
stock
every
year
in
new
housing.
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D
So,
while
we're
growing
pretty
fast,
we
aren't
growing
as
fast
as
everybody
else,
and
even
the
people
that
we
aren't
growing
as
fast
out
as
still
are
putting
in
a
lot
of
new
housing
units.
It's
just
what
is
happening
in
the
american
economy
and
with
housing
in
our
country
and
our
citywide
housing
stock
by
income,
and
you
get
a
sense
of
the
shortages.
We've
got
in
these
different
categories,
a
pretty
significant
shortage
with
the
folks
who
can
afford
only
the
30
or
less
of
the
adjusted
income.
D
D
Why
does
housing
affordability
matter?
Of
course
you
have
displacement.
If
people
can't
afford
to
stay
in
their
own
neighborhood
their
long
time
neighborhood,
you
have
people
who
end
up
becoming
homeless
because
they
can't
afford
housing.
You
have
increased
traffic
because
people
can't
afford
to
live
in
certain
areas
that
they
might
work
and
they
have
to
drive
further
away,
and
that
puts
more
people
on
the
roads
for
longer
distances
and
then
overall,
for
just
the
economic
health
of
the
community,
you
typically
need
to
have
oops
more
housing,
affordable
affordability.
D
So
when
you
look
across
the
city
at
those
who
are
making
who
need
to
not
spend
more
than
30
of
their
income,
which
is
essentially
the
way
that
the
housing
folks
across
the
country
say
that
you
know
general
parameter
barometer
of
housing
is
that
you
shouldn't
spend
more
than
30
percent
of
a
household's
income
in
charleston.
For
folks
who
don't
who
we
want
to
not
have
to
have
spending
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income?
D
To
achieve
this
city-wide,
we
would
have
to
have
16
000
units
built,
and
this
is
by
be
by
2030,
and
these
are
all
throughout
the
community.
It's
not
just
a
downtown
issue.
It's
not
just
a
west
ashland
issue.
According
to
our
assumptions
and
our
data,
750
units
would
need
to
be
built
in
the
canary
area
and
that's
these
are
affordable
units.
These
are
you
know,
the
thirty
percent,
the
forty
percent
up
to
120
ami.
These
are
the
more
affordable
and
workforce
units
on
the
charleston
peninsula.
D
We
need
4
800
units
on
james
island.
We
need
1800,
almost
1900
units
on
john's
island,
2500
units
and
west
ashley,
the
greatest
need
of
all
6
300
units,
so
it's
kind
of
a
daunting
number,
but
it
points
to
the
need
throughout
the
city
and
in
every
development
that
we
can
that
we
try
to
incorporate
affordable
housing.
It
may
be
difficult
to
reach
this
in
the
10-year
time
period,
but
we
should
be
doing
everything
we
can
to
try
to
get
to
these
levels.
D
But
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
do
some
really
dramatic
things
in
our
city.
If
we're
really
going
to
get
these
types
of
numbers
of
affordable
housing
units
built,
we
also
need
to
adopt
policies
to
increase
housing
security
for
existing
residents
in
areas
at
risk
of
displacement,
including
policies
tailored
to
preserving
historic
african-american
settlement
communities,
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
that
we're
doing
the
extensive
mapping
project
we're
doing
for
those
communities
develop.
Strategies
for
preserving
and
naturally
occurring.
Affordable
housing
through
units
throughout
the
city.
D
Expand
partnership
with
the
charleston
redevelopment
corporation
to
establish
a
land
bank
for
future,
affordable
housing
development,
implement
policies
that
reduce
regulatory
barriers
that
add
time
and
cost
to
affordable
housing
developments,
including
expedited
review
and
permitting,
which
we
constantly
work
to
expand
and
and
speed
these
up.
But
there
still
is
more
work
to
be
done:
reduce
fees,
affordable
material
standards
and
a
full-time
staff
member
devoted
to
shepherding
products
through
the
development
process
allow
more
flexibility
for
building
design
and
architectural
standards
were
appropriate
and
that's
a
fine
line
in
a
community
like
charleston,
but
just
continued.
D
Allocate
dedicated
resources
and
staff
to
assist
lower
income
homeowners
and
maintaining
their
historic
homes
create
more
funding
streams
for
affordable
housing
development
through
zoning
and
other
planning
tools,
update
the
zoning
ordinance
to
apply
conservation
design
principles
to
all
new
and
infill
housing
developments
that
new
ordinance
that
we
looked
at
at
your
last
meeting.
You
know
how
can
we
apply
those
principles
overall
in
new
zoning
in
the
city
to
make
the
best
use
of
the
highest
land
in
the
city
and
to
also
make
sure
that
we
get
good
mix
of
housing?
D
This
map
you
all
have
seen
before,
but
it
shows
the
area
that
have
the
greatest
tidal
flood
risk
that
have
the
compounded
risk
of
tidal
floods
and
on
the
ground,
existing
stormwater
flood
issues,
areas
that
we
need
to
adapt
so
that
that
development
can
better
approach
the
threats
it's
going
to
have,
and
then
the
areas
that
are
really
high
ground
and
probably
some
of
the
better
locations
for
development
canehoe
peninsula
of
course
stands
out.
The
ridges
that
are
up
there
along
upper
clements,
ferry
road,
john's
island,
maybank
highway
stands
out.
D
But
it's
very
important
to
understanding
our
overall
water
situation
where
we're
losing
wetlands,
where
we're
going
to
be
gaining
more
areas
of
wetlands
because
of
marsh
migration
and
factoring
in
essentially
three
feet
of
sea
level
rise,
which
is
what
the
city
is
trying
to
do
in
all
our
planning
efforts
and
that
all
our
marsh
migration
maps
that
ultimately
colored
our
land
use
maps
are
based
on
this
marsh
migration
figure.
That
is
based
on
the
best
available
science
and
data
from
a
number
of
different
agencies
and
entities.
D
So
in
our
land
use
recommendations,
we're
trying
to
make
the
best
use
of
high
land
around
the
city
for
residential,
commercial
and
mixed
use,
development,
especially
areas
around
current
or
future
public
transit
recorder.
So
those
are
the
areas
that
we're
really
trying
to
to
do
as
great
a
job
as
we
possibly
can
to
make
the
best
use
of
those
parcels.
D
We
also
want
to
reduce
densities
in
lower
ground
and
eliminate
development
in
future
marsh
migration
areas.
We
want
to
adapt
and
defend
structures
currently
in
those
areas
where
we're
feasible.
We
want
to
have
strategies
for
middle
ground
that
well,
our
strategies
for
middle
ground
require
additional
study.
These
are
very
much
related
to
the
storm
water
issues
in
those
areas.
D
The
stormwater
folks
have
done
a
huge
amount
in
looking
at
the
troubled
areas
and
we're
doing
a
lot
of
work
with
other
jurisdictions
to
try
to
come
up
with
some
fixes.
For
some
of
those
troubled
areas
and
get
new
easements
and
get
new
drainage
improvements
that
help
with
those,
but
we're
going
to
need
to
continue
on
that
and
any
new
development
is
going
to
need
to
take
some
of
that
into
account.
D
Now
we
also
want
to
underscore
the
responsibility
of
effective
water
management
on
higher
ground
of
the
city,
to
better
protect
the
middle
and
lower
grounds
downstream.
So,
even
though
we
might
have
areas
where
we're
encouraging
more
land
use
on
in
higher
ground
areas,
we
still
want
to
make
sure
that
there
are
good
areas
of
pervious,
paving
and
and
green
roofs,
and
things
like
that
that
make
sure
that
we
don't
you
know,
end
up
flooding,
folks
that
are
further
downstream
and
at
lower
elevations.
D
So
we
want
to
develop
in
proximity
to.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
development
in
proximity
to
african-american
settlement
communities
is
com
complements
the
existing
layouts
and
development
patterns.
We
want
to
increase
residential
density
and
develop
tod
strategies
along
the
future
low
country,
rapid
transit
route.
We
want
to
create
in-town
job
centers
along
key
transit
corridors,
encourage
use
of
green
storm
water
infrastructure,
including
clusters
of
trees,
use
impervious
surfaces
and
green
roofs.
D
So
our
overall
density
categories
and
plan
categories
start
with
the
rural
category,
which
is
zero
to
one
units.
An
acre
in
the
area
outside
the
ugb,
our
suburban
edge,
which
backs
up
to
the
ugb,
typically
is
zero
to
four
that's
zero
to
four
units.
An
acre
we've
called
that
in
the
past
you're
going
to
see
the
differences
in
the
new
plan
versus
the
old.
The
previous
plan
names
are
in
the
area
in
white
on
this
chart,
and
then
the
new
names
are
in
the
areas.
D
In
gray,
we
have
consolidated
some
of
these
many
districts
we
had
in
the
previous
plan
into
just
a
few
of
these
and
again
this
is
not
zoning.
These
are
just
land
use
categories
with
recommendations
for
the
future.
We
will
build
new
zoning
off
these
categories.
That
may
have
more
districts
than
we're
just
identifying
here.
This
is
just
a
way
to
better
plan
in
a
30,
000
foot
context.
D
We
have
renamed
our
urban
core
to
our
city
center,
which
we
thought
better
reflected
the
fact
that
we've
got
multiple
centers
around
our
city
that
we'll
be
showing
you
on
some
of
these
maps.
In
just
a
minute.
We've
kept
our
same
campus
designation
for
colleges,
schools,
hospitals,
institutions,
our
job
center
areas
for
high
concentrations
of
employment
are
industrial
we've
kept,
and
this
is
both
light.
Industrial
and
heavy
industrial
parks
self-explanatory
and
then
our
low
impact
and
conserved
areas.
D
This
is
the
first
time
you
all
are
seeing
these
and
we've
got
our
new
color
schemes
going
here.
So
I'm
going
to
kind
of
identify
a
few
things
and
again
I'm
happy
to
spend
much
more
time
on
these.
I'm
going
to
flip
through
these
quickly
but
happy
to
to
go
into
more
detail,
but
we've
kind
of
shifted
the
city
center
up
a
little
bit.
We've
taken
it
away
from
broad
street,
because
broad
street
isn't
as
intense
as
some
other
areas
on
the
peninsula.
D
We've
shifted
it
up
from
market
going
north
on
king
and
meeting,
also
including
union,
pier
and
some
of
the
waterfront
area
that
ultimately
would
be
redeveloped
and
then
getting
into
areas
that
have
higher
ground
and
the
proximity
to
the
low
country,
rapid
transit,
as
well
as
also
the
low
country
low
line.
We've
shifted
some
areas
and
included
them
in
this
city
center.
As
you
get
to
upper
king
upper
meeting,
of
course,
the
upper
morrison
or
the
u.p
area
of
the
city
is
in
this
zone
as
well
always
has
been
laurel.
D
Island
is
in
the
zone
because
of
the
pud
that
has
been
approved
for
that
area.
Magnolia
is
in
the
zone,
and
then
you
get
into
some
of
the
areas.
This
is
where
our
hub
of
the
country,
rapid
transit,
is
right
around
the
intersection
of
meetings,
mount
pleasant
street
and
meeting,
and
king
and
morrison,
and
then
on
up
into
the
neck
until
we
get
impacted
by
where
future
rail
will
come
through
and
we're
kind
of
cutting
off
some
of
the
density.
D
At
that
point
and
keeping
the
industrial
that's
in
place
up
in
that
area,
campus
locations
that
you
all
are
very
familiar
with
from
college
of
charleston
medical
district,
and
we
have
made
medical
districts
rather
than
urban
core
we've
transferred
that
to
a
campus
district
because
it
really
functioned
better
or
more
in
that
keeping
in
keeping
with
the
campus
district
than
it
does
in
the
urban
core.
The
citadel
burke
high
school
campus.
All
our
high
schools
are
in
campus
layouts
as
well.
D
We
want
to
work
with
the
redevelopment
team
for
civil
mall
and
make
sure
that
they
they
do
as
much
as
they
can
on
that
highland
with
the
storm
water.
That's
coming
off
the
facility,
but
it
is
a
good
place
as
far
as
elevations
and
access
to
transit
and
centrality
to
our
population
that
it
could
be
a
good
city
center.
D
You
get
up
in
some
burns
downs
areas
here,
some
of
the
confederate
circle
area
and
some
of
the
other
neighborhoods
that
are
along
the
creeks
here,
and
these
are
areas
where
we're
going
to
have
to
work
to
defend
and
adapt,
and
you
know
work
with
make
the
best
use
of
the
storm
water
that
we
have
there.
But
it's
probably
areas
that
we
should
not
be
recommending
greater
densities
in
anymore,
and
so
that
is
being
identified
here
and
that's
probably
one
of
the
biggest
changes
is
that
we
do
have
this
now.
D
F
F
D
F
F
G
F
D
D
The
highway
designation,
which
used
to
be
all
up
and
down
savannah
highway,
is,
is
changed
to
be
mostly
like
neighborhood
edge,
which
we
have
in
the
like:
an
avondale
area
and
a
long
savannah
highway
farm
field
and
going
there
and
heading
up
to
civil
mall
and
then
along
some
of
sam
rittenberg
neighborhood
edge
school
campuses
and
things
like
this.
But
then
we
move
into
the
city
center
at
sam
britt
and
ashley
river
road
there,
and
also
at
sam
ritt
and
old
town
drive
in
the
ashland
landing
area,
and
then
you
go
out
61.
D
We
go
to
neighborhood
edge
along
these
areas
that
used
to
be
highway
there.
So
we
feel
like
that.
That
is
a
better
way
to
treat
those
neighborhoods
without
the
auto
intensive
things,
but
still
providing
different
goods
and
services,
and
maybe
some
density
along
those
corridors
that
could
have
some
bus
service
as
well.
D
D
Then
industrial
such
as
the
landfill
we've
gotten
away
from
much
of
the
industrial
out
here,
because
it's
just
really
not
developing
that
way.
You'll
also
notice
that
the
low
impact
and
conserved
you
know
moves
into
some
of
these
areas
as
well,
and
we've
got
to
be
very
careful
with
that.
It
moves
into
the
outer
edges
of
the
west
ashley
circle
here
it
moves
into
the
hickory
farms
neighborhood
here
so
taking
care
to
defend
and
adapt
some
of
those
areas,
but
not
allow
for
greater
density
in
those
areas
either.
D
So
now
we'll
move
to
james
island,
where
we
are
looking
at
showing
some
city
center
along
maybank,
because
it's
such
high
land
and
again,
some
of
our
criteria
for
adding
city
center
would
was
availability
of
future
transit
and
being
high,
some
of
the
highest
lands
in
the
city,
and
so
we
did
put
a
little
bit
of
city
center
along
areas
of
maybank
highway
where
there
could
be
some
redevelopment
there.
Obviously,
we
have
overlays
that
are
working
on
in
that
area
too.
So
how
we
work
out.
Those
positions
remains
to
be
seen.
D
We
are
looking
at
neighborhood
edge
for
the
bulk
of
folly
road
in
the
northern
areas
of
folly
road,
because
we
do
see
this
as
a
future
bus,
rapid
transit.
It's
it's
not
something.
That's
funded
like
the
the
lowcountry
rapid
transit
that
comes
into
downtown,
but
it
is
something
with
the
success
of
that
route
that
could
become
something
in
the
future.
We
have
a
lot
more
on
james
island,
nate,
suburban
edge
based
on
the
densities
that
prevail
at
present.
D
We
also
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
conserved
lands
out
here
park
areas
and
served
lands.
Golf
course
golf
course.
So
a
lot
more
green
on
james
island
and
some
other
areas
classified
bishop
gadsden
as
a
campus
area,
and
it's
grown
a
good
bit
further
over
here.
Fort
james
island
charter,
high
school's
campus
area
and
also
the
first
baptist
high
school
is
the
campus
area
there.
D
D
F
F
There
are
a
lot
of
different
affiliations
out
there,
and
I
know
you
know
the
marine
sciences
from
the
college
is
out
there.
Musc
has
a
huge
engagement
out
there
or
dead.
You
know
at
one
time,
noah
is
out
there.
I'm
just
wondering
I
don't
know
what
the
subtleties
would
be
at
zoning
in
the
future,
but
I
just
think
it
might
be
a
consideration
for
discussion.
Okay,.
D
And
you'll
notice,
we
did
have
a
little
inset
here,
and
this
is
for
this
area
along
lower
folly
that
you
may
have
heard
me
talk
about
in
the
past
and
it's
actually
outside
the
ugb
for
the
city,
it's
not
outside
the
ugb
for
the
county,
and
it
actually
has
zoning
in
place
all
through
here.
That
is
much
denser
than
we
would
ever
allow
outside
the
ugb.
D
So
for
consistency's
sake,
we
threw
this
in
to
let
you
know
you
all
and
council
discuss
you
know
if
you
all
don't
want
to
see
fit
to
make
a
change
to
the
ugb
there,
then
that's
fine,
but
really
the
comprehensive
plan
process
is
the
right
time
to
look
at
the
ugb,
and
so
this
is
the
only
area
in
the
entire
ugb
around
the
city
that
we
thought
there
might
be
need
to
be
any
kind
of
change
in.
Should
this
be
an
area
that
we
that
you
all
do
recommend
for
a
change?
D
What
we're
showing
is
just
the
frontage
along
folly,
road
being
added
in.
We
already
have
a
lot
of
this
area.
It's
already
developed,
such
as
the
spy
glass
such
as
ocean
neighbors.
We
do
have
some
marsh
migration
through
here
shown
in
this
area,
so
this
would
be
less
development
in
those
areas.
There's
a
large
church
site,
for
example
over
here
that
you
know,
has
not
been
developed
and
I'm
not
exactly
sure.
D
You
know
what
that
church
has
plans
to
do,
but
it's
a
huge
area
of
marsh
migration
right
there,
so
not
a
huge
change,
but
it
could
be
one
that
just
might
help
even
the
lines
up
and
make
them
reflect.
True
zoning,
that's
on
the
ground
and
true
development.
That's
on
the
ground,
so,
okay,
moving
on
to
john's
island
and
this
again
the
emphasis
on
maybank
and
the
three
centers
along
maybank.
We
ended
up
with
these
as
city
centers.
You
know
these
would
not
be
as
dense
as
a
city
center.
D
You
might
see
in
the
middle
of
downtown
or
even
at
civil
mall,
but
still
for
john's
island.
These
three
centers
are
the
centers,
and
these
are
areas
that
do
have
higher
elevations,
so
it's
appropriate
to
have
this
denser
development
there.
Also,
this
is
the
main
transit
route
that
would
be
on
john's
island
being
maybank
highway
and
it
is
connected
to
the
other
parts
of
john's
island
pretty
well.
So
that's
why
we
included
that.
D
Even
the
the
raw
and
wood
ale
property
over
here
meets
this
rural
category,
because
it's
all
no
more
than
one
unit
in
an
acre,
then
we've
got
some
areas
like
river
run
is
in
here
where
we've
got
a
good
bit
of
marsh
migration.
So,
should
you
know
some
new
proposals
come
in
in
that
area?
We
would
have
to
evaluate
it
from
that
standpoint
that
we've
got
march
migration
moving
through
there.
We've
got
the
airport
that
has
always
been
kind
of
designated
as
a
job
center.
D
So
that
is
john's
island,
not
that
radically
different
from
what
you
might
have
seen
before
and
then
lower
cane
hawaii
peninsula
daniel
island,
which
this
is
basically
all
built
out.
We
did
now
designate
daniel
island
town
center
as
a
city
center,
because
essentially
it's
been
built
that
way.
We
have
a
lot
of
job
center
there
with
a
lot
of
office
and
tech
employment
out
here,
and
so
those
are
designated
that
way
and
then
suburban
type
densities
within
daniel
island
itself.
D
D
I
mean
yes
existing,
yes,
and
so
some
of
these
have
had
new
development
in
them,
and
some
of
them
have
not.
So
this
gives
you
a
sense
of
how
settlement
communities
will
be
identified
and
the
prevalence
of
them
along
areas
like
clements
ferry.
So
then
we
will
zip
up
to
the
next
part
of
clement's
fury
the
upper
parts.
D
D
D
So
we
don't
have
more
on
that
for
you
here,
but
I
think
what
you're
seeing
in
all
the
land
use
and
all
our
housing
and
all
our
transportation
is
a
city
that
is
seeking
to
become
much
more
resilient
and
deal
with
the
the
pending
threats
that
we
have
from
water
and
economics
and
just
the
general
growth
we
have
in
our
region.
I'm
happy
to
answer
other
questions.
How
long
have
I
gone
here
about
45
minutes,
or
so
something
like
that?
B
C
C
D
So
we
wanted
to
identify
these
first
and
foremost
because
they
hadn't
been
identified
before
and
we
will
have
the
actual
names
that
people
refer
to
these
areas
as
well,
and
then
we
wanted
to
you
know,
understand
that
different
folks
in
these
areas
want
different
things.
Some
settlement
communities,
you
know,
would
like
to
be
left
alone
and
have
everything
stay
exactly
the
same
as
it
is?
Some
might
want
to
sell
some
land
and
have
redevelopment
occur
in
in
the
area.
D
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
there
is
redevelopment
that
it
follows,
you
know
the
land
use
recommendations
we
have
in
these
areas
and
that
it's
done
in
the
context
of
understanding
that
there
is
a
settlement
area
there.
It
could
be
that
over
time
we
do
much
more
refined,
neighborhood
level
planning
for
these
settlement
areas,
but
we
can't
do
all
that
right
now.
There
are
too
many
of
them.
D
It's
too
much
of
an
area
around
the
city,
but
it
is
important
that
we
at
least
identify
them
and
say:
okay,
if
we're
going
to
have
a
land
use
change
in,
let's
say
this
area
along
pineland
road.
Well,
what
is
the
context
and
what
is
the
impact
to
the
remaining
settlement
area
if
we
have
that
landings
change
and
let's
get
in
touch
with
some
folks
that
live
in
the
settlement
area
and
have
them
part
of
that
dialogue,
which
is
not
really
something?
That's
necessarily
happened
before.
C
Thanks
yeah,
I
just
I
wanted.
I
wanted
to
sort
of
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
on
that,
so
that
that
doesn't
get
lost
after
the
comp
plan
is
adopted,
that
there's
more
planning
work
to
be
done
here
and
I
and
I
hope
and
and
expect
that
that
will
happen
and
then
the
second
my
set
the
comment
was
more.
This
is
very
mundane
but
re.
Looking
at
the
colors
on
this
map-
and
I
know
mr
pullman
mentioned
that
y'all
were
doing
that-
you
know
having
to
continually
refer
back
to
them.
C
D
A
C
G
C
F
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
wanted
to
also
thank
the
staff
because
they
I
I've
been
working
with
them
on
some
of
these
issues
and
they
are
just
they're
really
burning
the
candles
at
more
than
two
ends.
I
don't
know
where
all
the
wicks
are
going,
but
they're
burning,
and
I'm
really
grateful
to
mr
lissane
that
he
noticed
all
the
hard
work
on
the
settlement
community,
because
I've
been
in
there
on
the
ground
with
staff
on
this,
and
it's
been
really
exciting
to
get
down
and
work
on
this.
F
The
one
thing
I
noticed
that
we
might
want
to
add
is
there
was
no
mention
of
the
african-american
cemeteries,
and
I
know
that
there
was
some
work
in
there
that,
because
so
many
of
those
are
not
identified
and
truthfully
development
on
top
of
cemeteries
has
been
problematic,
as
we've
seen.
So
I
think
we
just
need
to
make
sure
that
that's
included
in
the
verbiage,
not
just
the
community,
but
also
the
the
potential
for
cemetery
working
there.
I
have
just
a
few
random
thoughts.
F
So
that's
I
really
highly
commend
that
work,
but
one
thing
with
the
from
the
james
island
group
is:
there's
some
really
concern
about
the
movement
of
that
urban
growth
boundary.
So
I
would
be
very,
I
would
walk
that
path
very
gently
and
get
back
to
james
island.
They
they
have
some
real
concerns
about
the
movement
of
that
urban
growth
boundary
as
well
as
in
other
parts
of
the
city.
I
think
a
lot
of
people
want
us
to
draw
a
hard
line
in
the
sand.
F
I
don't
know
about
that,
but
I
just
heard
that
a
lot
as
we
went
along,
I
heard
it
under
land
use
about
what
I'm
going
to
call
a
concierge
staff
person.
This
came
up
during
plan
west
ashley
for
somebody
there
to
kind
of
hold
people's
hands,
because
the
one
thing
we
can
do
is
give
people
time
to
and
that's
money
in
some
of
these
things,
and
but
I
didn't
hear
the
same
thing
with
economic
development
and
it
might
be.
F
I
know
there
was
a
staff
person
to
encourage
it,
but
sometimes
people
also
just
need
their
hand
held,
so
they
can
get
their
their
jobs
out
there,
and
one
thing
that
came
up
in
some
discussion
was
what
I'm
going
to
call
affordable
commercial
space.
We
talk
a
lot
about
affordable
housing,
but
some
of
these
small
businesses-
they
just
can't
find
affordable
commercial
space,
and
I
don't.
I
know
that
greenville
did
some
work
with
this.
On
that
downtown
redevelopment
and
along
that
swamp
rabbit
trail.
I
think
it's
called.
F
H
F
F
We've
talked
about
this
a
lot
with
planning
commission,
like
salary
dwelling
units
or
small
houses,
or
you
know,
duplexes.
I
think
we
need
to
really
educate
the
public
about
this.
What
what
planners
have
taught
me
about?
The
missing
metal,
I
think,
will
become
really
important
here
that
we
think
about
and
look
at
and
that
can
get
involved
in
that
housing
element
as
well
as
zoning
changes
that
accommodate
that,
because
people
get
really
nervous
with
the
density
thing,
but
once
another
educational
opportunity
that
was
afforded
to
me
was
this
thing
called
guess
the
density.
F
So
I
think
that
educational
opportunities
we
can
use
in
the
development
of
this
city
plan-
and
I
think
those
were
all
my
random
comments
except
to
ask
if
these
slides
could
be
put
in
our
dropbox
too,
because
there
was
a
tremendous
amount
of
great
information
to
digest.
And
I
appreciate
all
the
effort.
Thank
you.
E
As
I've
mentioned
before
y'all
heard
me
say
it
there's
very
few
people
that
want
to
do
anything
in
the
city
of
charleston
anymore
because
of
the
time
frame
that
it
takes
to
get
things
done
and
if
you're
going
to
really
take
the
opportunity
to
get
some
affordable
housing
in
there,
you
really
and
workforce
housing.
You
really
have
to
improve
on
and
really
development,
because
if
you
don't
have
a
development
that
could
actually
house
affordable
and
workforce
housing,
then
then
it's
all
kind
of
a
mute
point.
E
I
No,
I
mean,
I
think
I've
got
some
more
questions
that
I
think
I
probably
just
want
to
send
over
to
staff
just
on
just
some
of
the
formula
and
how
they
derive
the
the
numbers
for
how
many
they
think
we
need
in
in
the
downtown
area.
I
I
was
I've
been
contemplating
how
that
how
that
number
was
contemplated.
C
I
wanted
to,
I
actually
wrote
this
down
and
miss
jacobs
mentioned
it.
The
issue
of
the
urban
growth
boundary
on
james
island,
and
I-
and
I
maybe
this-
isn't
the
the
proper
forum
to
talk
about
it.
But
I
mean
it
seems
to
me
that
to
some
degree,
what
was
shown
here
on
that
map
was
more
about
recognizing,
what's
actually
on
the
ground
than
than
you
know
what
would
guide
future
zoning
or
planning
decisions,
and
I
you
know
you
kind
of
go
back
and
forth
in
your
mind
about
whether
the
map
should.
C
Either
recognize
the
reality
of
what's
on
the
ground
or
recognize
you
know,
put
forth
some
aspirational
thought
about.
You
know
if
you
could
turn
back
the
clock.
What
would
you
do
with
that
site?
You
know
the
fact
is
those
sites
are
quite
suburban
now
and
you
wouldn't
call
ocean
neighbors
rural,
and
so
nor
would
you
call
the
spyglass
apartments
rule,
so
I
know
that
there
might
be
some
angst
and
so
forth
on
james
island
about
that,
and
it
may
not
even
be
worth
the
brain
damage
that
it
would.
C
D
And-
and
I
think
that
it's
important
for
consistency
of
the
comprehen
of
the
urban
growth
boundary,
so
we
can
always
say
everything
inside
the
urban
growth
boundary
is
where
your
more
urbanized
things
are
right.
Now
we
can't
completely
see
that,
because
we've
got
hundreds
of
acres
down
there
that
have
very
suburban
densities
in
what
should
you
know
if
it's
outside
the
ugb
would
be
a
rural
area,
but
the
reality
is
the
zoning
doesn't
match
that
the
county
doesn't
match
that.
D
C
B
D
So
we
have
a
very
good
working
relationship
with
them
and
of
course,
you
all
know
the
folly
road
overlay
that
we've
adopted
and
that's
part
of
the
reason
for
the
thought
about
the
ugb,
because
the
folly
road
overlay
allows
you
know
eight
twelve
units
an
acre
all
along
folly,
road,
and
yet
we
have
it,
go
outside
the
urban
growth
boundary
so
and
that
you
know
the
county
doesn't
have
an
urban
growth
boundary
rural
area
on
james
island.
All
of
james
island
is
in
the
urban
area
in
their
plan,
and
it's
been
that
way.
D
Since
you
know
five
or
six
years
after
the
urban
growth
boundary
was
first
developed
in
99
98
somewhere
around
in
there
and
the
county
switched
it
and
they've
just
never
switched
it
back,
but
but
we
have
a
very
good
working
relationship
with
them.
You
all
will
be
seeing
at
some
point
the
maybank
overlay
we've
worked
on
with
them.
You
know,
we've
got
regular
dialogue,
I
mean
I
probably
talked
to
their
planning
director
every
week
about
something
that's
going
on.
So
there's
a
huge
amount
of
interaction.
F
Handwriting
well
just
to
further
this
urban
growth
boundary.
Just
a
little
bit
bill.
Moody
introduced
me
to
a
word
called
congoleum,
which
I
don't
even
know
what
the
definition
is,
but
it
might
even
go
under
that
conundrum,
because
if
you
look
at
these
recommendations
like
you,
should
go
to
the
high
ground
and
develop
and
preserve
the
water
and
everything.
If
you
look
at
some
of
those
maps
very
carefully
about
where
we
should
make
sure
our
development
is
wise
and
dense.
F
Some
of
it
is
right
at
that
urban
growth
boundary
or
outside
of
it,
where
people
would
rather
us,
not
go
and
be
conserved,
so
in
some
respects
we're
creating
that
dichotomy
that
I
just
think
we
need
to
carefully
look
at
those
maps
and
also
just
like
mr
lesan
pointed
out.
The
land
is
already
being
used
that
way
there.
I
think
they're
just
nervous
that
we
might
be
recommending
something
in
a
backdoor
fashion,
and
we
just
have
to
be
very
careful
about
how
we
introduce
that
to
them
and
respect
their
thoughts
on
it.
F
But
I
definitely
think
we
need
to
have
the
discussion,
because
I'm
looking
at
some
of
these
maps
and
they
almost
conflict
with
each
other
in
the
sense
that
you
recommend
development
here,
but
then
that's
not
where
you
really
want
it
or
anybody
wants
it.
So
I
just
think
we
just
need
to
be
open
about
it
with
the
community
as
we
move
forward
with
the
plan,
because
it
will
help
them
understand.
Why
we're
going
to
make
decisions,
and
I
think,
we'll
make
the
wise
decision.
If
we
have
that
good
discussion
about
it.
H
H
B
Well,
mr
bailey,
it's
good
to
have
you
even
if
it's
just
by
voice,
it's
good
to
have
you
here
as
well,
but
you
know-
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
as
the
transparency
is
the
city
reaching
out
and
having
meetings
and
and
as
much
information
as
chloe
mentioned,
about
community
outreach
and
in
reach.
I
think
that's
all
good.
Other
commission
members
questions
comments.
Staff
is
there
anything
else
we
need
to
present
today.
D
This
is
what
we
had
for
you
today
and
you
know
this
is
a
lot
of
what
we
will
be
going
out
to
the
community
with
over
the
next
six
weeks.
It
will
get
refined
further,
get
the
colors
better,
that
kind
of
thing,
and
then
ultimately,
we
will
have
a
full
draft
document
that
will
incorporate
you
know
what
we
hear
from
the
community
in
these
items
and
then
that
is
what
will
come
to
you
all
for
your
recommendation.
B
A
I
don't
think
we
have
one
confirmed
yet
because
it
it
will
likely
be
in
may
we'll
be
because
that
will
be
we'll
wrap
up
with
this
next
series
of
community
meetings
at
the
end
of
april
and
we'll
need
to
schedule
something
for
may
and
so
christopher,
and
I
will
be
contacting
you
all
about
that
soon.
But
there
is
none
scheduled
at
this
point.
D
I
was
just
going
to
say
depending
on
what
happen
we're
going.
You
know
if
there
aren't
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
document.
You
know
we
might
be
able
to
get
something
to
you.
You
know
for
you
all
to
begin
reviewing
in
late
april,
but
you
know
in
all
reality
it
probably
is
into
may
before
we
can
get
the
final
written
document
to
you
for
your
review.
B
Well,
it's
a
lot
of
information.
You'll
have
to
get
it
want
to
get
as
right
as
possible.
So
we
appreciate
that
if
there's
no
other
questions
or
comments
from
commission
members,
google
and
have
this
meeting
stand
adjourned,
but
appreciate
everyone's
time
and
and
appreciate
all
the
staff's
work
as
well
you're
here.
Thank
you
all.