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From YouTube: April 22 James Island Feedback Session
Description
Though the comprehensive plan is a citywide plan, each geographic area of the city has a unique identity and context that will shape and guide its future. In this feedback session, we invited participants to engage in a discussion about findings and draft recommendations specific to James Island. Feedback from participants will inform revisions to the final draft of the plan.
Click here to view the meeting slides: https://www.charlestoncityplan.com/s/JAMESISLAND-FeedbackSessionSlides.pdf
Click here to view notes from the discussion: https://www.charlestoncityplan.com/s/APRIL-22-JAMES-ISLAND-meeting-notes.pdf
A
A
Okay,
thank
you,
okay,
so,
first,
preserving
and
restoring
our
local
ecosystems
and
not
just
preserving
and
restoring
them,
but
having
access
to
them,
public,
free
public
access
to
our
green
spaces
and
water,
which
is
so
important
to
everybody
into
quality
of
life.
We
have
many
overlapping
jurisdictions
throughout
the
city.
Residents
want
to
see
more
collaboration
and
coordination,
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
the
maintenance
and
addressing
drainage
infrastructure
throughout
the
city.
A
Beyond
this
comprehensive
plan
to
have
more
transparency
and
communication
with
the
city-
and
here
are
some
things
that
we
heard
specifically
from
folks
on
james
island,
so
residents
of
jane's
island-
that
one
of
the
things
I
brought
out-
and
this
is
sort
of
we
asked
a
question
in
round
one-
which
is
what
what
do
you
love
about?
Your
community
and
folks
from
james
island
talked
about
that
small
town
feel
as
a
mixture
of
different
types
of
communities
around
the
island,
they're
very
tight-knit
and
there's
a
deep
love
and
connection
with
that.
A
And
I'm
sure
it
won't
come
as
a
surprise
to
any
of
you
in
the
meeting
tonight.
I'm
flooding
being
top
of
the
mind
for
folks
on
james
island,
especially
so
this
is
a
a
problem,
that's
getting
worse,
and
this
is
plaguing
residents
and
definitely
impacting
quality
of
life,
damaging
property
on
a
regular
basis.
A
People
love
being
on
james
island
because
of
the
proximity
to
downtown
and
the
beach.
But
getting
around
has
is
it's
proving
challenging
and
can
be
especially
unsafe?
If
you
don't
have
a
car-
and
this
is
getting
worse,
and
so
when
it
comes
to
connecting
to
parks,
recreation
areas
that
the
the
club,
the
things
that
you're
close
to
improving
ways
to
get
around
as
a
better
transit,
safe
pathways
for
bikes
pedestrians,
not
just
on
the
island
but
connecting
to
surrounding
areas
as
well.
A
And
then
this
is
a.
This
was
already
mentioned,
the
collaboration
between
the
different
jurisdictions.
But
this
is
especially
this
was
especially
loud
amongst
folks
from
james
island,
and
I
think
part
of
that
is
because
not
only
we
have
city
and
county
and
james
island,
but
we
also
the
town
of
james
island.
So
that's
more
folks
to
bring
together
and
work
together
and
especially
looking
at
implementing
the
recommendations
in
the
rethink
folly,
road
plan
and
if
you're
not
familiar
with,
rethink
folly.
A
A
A
Before
I
get
into
the
housing
findings,
I
want
to
clarify
what
we
need
when
we
use
the
term
affordable
housing.
In
this
analysis,
we
are
using
the
definition
that
the
federal
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
also
known
as
hud
uses,
and
that
is
that
they
they
they
define
affordable
housing
as
housing.
A
That
adds
up
to
no
more
than
30
percent
of
someone's
annual
income
before
taxes
and
that
there,
those
costs
that
they're
referring
to
are
specifically
rent
or
mortgage
prices,
and
they
will
set
affordability
based
on
someone's
income.
So
it's
not
a
flat
affordability,
it's
tied
to
what
someone
makes
and
they
categorize
different
income
ranges
by
the
percentage
that
that
household
makes
of
the
area
median
income.
A
So
that's
just
a
little
bit
of
what
of
how
that's
broken
down
and
how
affordability
is
determined
and
you
may
have
heard
of
different
categories
of
affordable
housing
like
workforce
housing
or
low-income
housing
when
we're
in
the
pert.
For
the
purposes
of
this
analysis,
we're
referring
to
all
income
ranges,
so
housing
that
is
affordable
to
all
of
these
income
ranges
up
to
someone
making
120
of
the
area.
B
A
A
So
this
is
also
probably
not
news
to
folks,
but
it
does
help
to
have
numbers
to
put
to
experiences
that
we
can
all
relate
to
and
the
cost
of
living
in
charleston
is
high,
and
this
is
reflected
in
housing
costs.
So
42
of
charleston
residents
or
households
are
cost
burdened,
which
just
means
that
they
are
they're
spending
more
than
that
30
threshold
of
their
annual
income
on
housing
costs,
and
that
is
just
looking
at
their
income
versus
their
mortgage
for
their
rent.
It
is
not
including
utilities
or
insurance,
so
this
number
is
likely
higher.
A
A
We
also
understand
that,
there's
a
lot
more
that
factors
into
why
someone
chooses
to
live
where
they
live.
It's
not
just
how
much
it
costs
it
could
be,
how
close
it
is
to
work
their
age,
their
family
size,
and
so
those
are
all
things
that
need
to
be
considered
when
we're
planning
for
the
future,
not
just
the
the
cost
of
housing.
We
also
need
to
be
looking
at
house
places
that
are
vulnerable
to
tidal
flooding
based
on
the
vulnerability
assessment
completed
this
in
2020.
A
A
We
also
looked
at
the
transportation
costs
if
we
are,
if
we
include
transportation
costs
and
overall
calculations,
places
that
maybe
are
more
affordable
on
the
housing
side
may
cost
more
on
the
transportation
side,
and
so
we
wanted
to
see
how
the
different
areas
of
the
city
compared
when
looking
at
not
just
housing
costs
but
transportation
costs.
You
can
see
the
breakdown
here
in
james
island.
On
average,
the
average
household
pays
about
3
000
a
month
on
housing
and
transportation.
A
A
This
is
a
very
hypothetical
scenario,
but
this
just
sort
of
shows
what
the
need
is.
The
need
is
everywhere.
So
it's
not
just
one
part
of
the
city
where
we
need
more
affordable
housing.
We
need
more
affordable
housing
everywhere,
and
so
these
numbers
really
just
show
you
comparison
of
the
need
across
across
the
city,
and
this
is
based
on
again
our
current
numbers
and
also
projected
population,
and
it's
also
based
on
the
existing
income
distribution
of
that
area.
A
Okay,
the
next
piece
is
our
water
and
land
analysis.
If
you're
familiar
with
the
dutch
dialogues,
the
group
that
we
worked
with
on
this
analysis
is
the
same
folks
who
worked
on
the
dutch
dialogues
and
they
take
an
approach
to
planning
that
looks
at
the
ground:
the
soil,
water
and
ecology,
infrastructure,
drainage,
transportation,
networks
and
inhabitation,
which
includes
development
and
land,
use
this
plan.
A
A
We
will
not
be
making
specific
recommendations
for
like
infrastructure
projects,
but
the
plan
can
make
recommendations
about
priority
areas
for
investment
in
terms
of
infrastructure,
for
both
drainage
and
transportation
networks.
What
we
are
missing,
this
layered
approach
to
planting
was
a
city-wide
analysis
of
this
ground
level,
the
soil,
water
and
ecology.
A
A
A
The
compound
flood
risk
zone
is
sort
of
this
very
nuanced
area.
That's
an
overlap
between
the
adapt
zone
and
the
tidal
flood
risk
zone.
Where
there's
a
combination
of
things
going
on
and
that
that
is,
it
could
be.
It's
a
mixture
of
tidal
flooding
and
rainfall
and
runoff,
where
they
all
kind
of
coalesce
and
those
areas
are
fewer,
but
it
is
sort
of
a
it's
a
it's
a
place
for
more
research
and
then
that-
and
there
is
a
greater
flooding
risk.
A
Definitely
in
this
area,
the
place
at
most
risk
in
the
city
is
the
tidal
flood
rift
zone.
So
these
are
places
where
today
they
may
experience
already
high
tide
flooding
even
on
a
sunny
day,
and
these
areas
are
going
to
see
more
of
that
going
forward
as
the
sea
level
rises,
and
this
is
also
a
dynamic
area
where
the
marsh
is
expected
to
in
many
places
to
actually
move
inland.
A
A
A
A
Each
community
has
a
shared
history:
shared
identity,
there's
a
strong
connection
to
the
land
and
there's
typically,
there's
shared
cultural
institutions,
schools,
churches
and
businesses,
and
so
I
share
that
definition.
It's
a
working
definition
and
we're
always
you
know
this
is
sort
of
evolving
as
as
we
go
because
the
communities
residents
of
these
communities
are
really
guiding
this
and
steering
us.
A
So
this
is
a
working
evolving
definition,
but
it
is
a
more
broad
definition
than
what
you
may
have
seen
if
you
familiar
with
this
term
that
you
may
have
seen
in
other
historic
resource
surveys.
So
the
the
scope
of
this
project
is
to
identify
the
communities
on
a
map
where
they
are,
what
they're
called
their
significance,
a
brief
part
of
their
history
and
then
to
include
recommendations
for
beyond
the
plan,
how
we
can
work
to
protect
and
preserve
them,
and
I
will
pause
here
and
I'm
sorry
at
the
tika.
B
That
is
okay,
okay,
all
right,
so
we
actually
do
have
a
question
in
the
chat
and
thank
you
chloe.
We
actually
do
have
a
question
in
the
chat
and
it's
coming
from
eileen.
This
is
a
this
is
great
that
you're
looking
at
surface
storm
water
flooding.
Have
you
looked
at
slash
analyze
the
potential
changes
to
the
water
table
as
a
result
of
development.
D
I'll
take
a
attempt
at
that
so
eileen
yeah.
That
is
not
something
we've
done
in
this
document.
It's
a
very
involved
engineering
type
process.
It
would
involve
you
know
core
samples
things
like
that
all
different
parts
of
the
city,
but
I
will
say
that
as
development
occurs,
particularly
in
the
adapt
and
reserve
areas,
areas
like
that
that
that
would
need
to
be
a
key
part
of
analysis,
as
new
development
comes
in
part
of
you
know,
just
getting
ready
for
understanding
the
stormwater
on
a
particular
site.
C
Hey
this
is
eileen
doherty.
Thank
you
so
much
christopher.
I
only
bring
this
up,
because
this
is
something
that
we've
experienced
so
much
in
our
area
and
that
when
we
do
have
large-scale
developments
that
go
in
in
relatively
low-lying
areas
that
are
built
up
significantly,
it
does
change
the
water
table
in
the
surrounding
areas.
C
As
far
as
we
can
tell-
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
when
we
approached
the
city
of
charleston
about
that,
we
were
unable
to
really
kind
of
find
any
resolution,
because
that
didn't
seem
to
be
covered
by
any
of
the
local
zoning
ordinances.
So
we
just
wanted
to
flag
that
as
something
is
very
important,
and
I
know
that
it's
it
may
be
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
But
often
the
developers
are
not
doing
that
with
the
same
numbers
that
perhaps
a
regulatory
body
would
be.
Thank
you.
A
Our
stormwater
department
is
also
finalizing
a
very
comprehensive,
more
engineering
level
study
of
the
city,
so
these
things
are
happening
simultaneously,
and
so
we
we,
the
planners,
don't
we
haven't
been
doing
that
studying?
We
don't
have
that
data
right
in
front
of
us
yet,
but
that
is
also
being
finished
up
now,
and
so
that
is
improved
data,
better
data
than
the
city's
had
access
to
before
and
those
numbers
will
be
used
in
reviewing
future
development
plans
as
well.
So
that's
that
is
something
to
look
forward
to
christopher.
Did
I
represent
that
effort?
B
Okay,
all
right,
we
have
another
question:
melissa,
sherida.
I
continue
to
be
concerned
about
african
american
comm
about
that
about
the
african-american
community,
issues
that
concentrate
on
the
history
and
that's
vital
and
she
also
shared
but
african-american
communities,
and
what
about
african-american
communities
and
business
development.
A
A
D
Okay:
let's
look
at
some
of
the
select
draft
recommendations
from
the
document
that
we
are
working
on
next
slide.
Okay,
so
we
have
this
slide.
I
think
we've
done
this
with
our
groups
in
the
fall,
but
just
a
reminder
of
what
a
plan
does,
and
that
is
that
a
plan
makes
recommendations
about
the
future
and
uses
objective
information
and
gets
everyone's
input
for
our
kind
of
daily
use
in
the
planning
department
and
making
recommendations
to
the
planning
commission
city
council.
But
it's
not
something
that
immediately
changes
zoning.
D
D
D
We
have
economic
development
elements
in
the
plan.
Natural
resources
background
cultural
resources,
community
facilities,
housing,
of
course,
is
we've
already
outlined
land
use
which
we're
going
to
go
into
a
little
bit
more
depth
in
just
a
few
minutes
transportation,
which
we
have
a
city-wide
transportation
plan,
that's
been
incorporated
into
the
document
and
then
priority
investment
for
where
investment
and
infrastructure
should
be
and
resilience
how
we
kind
of
tie
all
these
elements
together
to
make
our
city
a
more
resilient
city.
A
Christopher
before
we
go
to
the
next
slide,
where
we
only
have
prepared
in
slides
tonight,
the
the
land
use
recommendations
specifically
in
the
form
of
the
land
use
maps,
but
I
did
in
the
document
that
I
sent
out
to
everyone
before
this
meeting.
It
includes
recommendations
for
the
other
elements.
So,
though,
we're
not
going
to
present
those
recommendations
tonight,
because
we
don't
have
time
and
we
welcome
any
feedback
if
you've
come
prepared
with
any
feedback
for
other
things
aside
from
the
land
use
or
want
to
send
that
feedback
afterward.
D
It's
hopefully
incorporating
communities
vision.
We
want
to
hear
from
you
all
to
see
if
you
agree
with
this
and
then
it's
it's
gonna.
As
I
said
earlier,
it's
gonna
help
us
make
decisions
and
recommendations
now
in
into
the
future,
for
planning,
commission
and
city
council
and
it's
a
general
guide.
Essentially,
it's
not
a
set
of
laws
next
slide
and
our
water
analysis.
D
Implications
for
land
use
have
the
fact
that
we
want
to
reserve
higher
intensity
land
use
categories
for
higher
ground
zones,
so
keeping
those
that
intensity
away
from
the
areas
that
are
most
vulnerable.
We
want
to
assign
the
lowest
impact
land
use
categories
such
as
conservation
parks
to
the
majority
of
areas
within
the
tidal
flood
risk
zone,
and
then
we
want
to
have
in
between
those
two
zones.
D
So
these
are
the
designations
that
you're
going
to
see
on
maps.
In
just
a
few
minutes.
We
have
a
rural
category.
This
is
for
designated
areas
outside
the
urban
growth
boundary.
An
example
might
be
the
plow
ground
road
area
on
john's
island.
Then
we
have
our
suburban
edge,
which
is
generally
suburban
in
character,
but
lower
densities
than
typical,
suburban
residential
areas.
It's
one
unit,
an
acre
to
four
units.
An
acre
sandhurst,
might
be
an
example
in
west
ashley
or
stiles
point
on
james
island.
D
D
D
Downtown
then
neighborhood
edge
is
something
that
we
have
put
in
this
document
for
the
first
time,
it's
something
that
allows
for
those
types
of
uses
that
are
needed
in
every
neighborhood
stores
and
services,
but
they
aren't
appropriate
to
be
in
the
middle
of
the
neighborhood,
so
they
might
be
on
the
edge
of
the
neighborhood
along
a
key
card
or
along
a
savannah
highway
or
along
a
folly.
Road
and
we've
had
some
categories
in
the
past
that
were
called
highway.
That
we
felt
like
were
too
intensive.
D
These
include
our
downtowns
urban
core,
also
citadel
mall
areas.
The
higher
elevation
areas
of
citadel
mall
and
then
daniel
island
town
center,
and
then
we'll
show
a
few
other
ones
scattered
around
the
city
at
locations
of
higher
elevations
next
slide,
and
then
some
of
the
unique
districts
we
have,
such
as
a
campus
district.
A
case
in
point
would
be
the
medical
district
which
is
unique,
uses
that
work
together
as
one
but
they're
in
different
formats
of
buildings.
The
buildings
don't
follow,
necessarily
the
standard
urban
format
and
medical
district
or
college
of
charleston.
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D
This
example
of
this
would
be
like
the
doo-wop
area
in
west
ashley
or
the
fort
johnson
research
area,
where
dnr
and
other
regulatory
agencies
have
offices.
The
hollings
noaa
labs
things
like
that,
and
then
we
have
our
industrial
areas
and
those
are
where
you
have
uses
that
could
have
offsite
impacts
and
the
most
intensive
types
of
job
generating
uses
and
columbus
street
terminal
is
an
example
of
that.
D
The
land
uses
that
are
going
to
be
recommended
in
this
plan
document
have
those
as
less
than
one
unit
per
acre.
If
there's
any
development
at
all,
and
then
we
also
have
lands
that
are
preserved
via
public
ownership,
not
necessarily
open
to
the
general
population,
but
just
preserved
through
a
land
trust.
Something
like
that.
Then
we
have,
of
course
natural
and
wetland
areas
that
already
exist,
and
then
we
have
parks
that
are
owned
by
localities
for
the
public's
outdoor
recreational
uses
and
passive
uses.
D
So
this
is
the
initial
draft
james
island,
future
land
use
map.
The
first
thing,
a
lot
of
you
might
notice,
is
the
dark.
Color,
though
it's
almost
like
a
black
color.
That
is
areas
that
are
in
the
town
of
james
island
and
because
the
town
of
james
island
is
so
intermingled
with
the
city
and
because
it
is
its
own
entity
and
they
have
their
own
plans.
We
felt
it
was
important
to
show
that
you
know
their
planning
is
is
for
their
kind
of
jurisdiction.
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We
are
going
to
be
cooperating
with
them.
In
fact,
we'll
be
setting
up
a
meeting
soon
to
have
a
joint
discussion
of
our
plan
and
get
their
thoughts
on
what
is
in
our
plan
and
have
some
more
coordination
with
what's
in
their
plan.
But
that's
why
it
shows
this
way
on
this
map.
Then
it
has
different
areas
of
james
island
that
we
can
focus
in
on.
D
We
also
have
an
item
that
is
a
proposal
to
deal
with
a
quirk
that
is
in
the
lower
area
of
the
urban
growth
boundary.
The
urban
growth
manner
is
the
dark
gray
line
that
that
comes
onto
james
island,
near
the
greenville
area
and
goes
around
the
signal,
point
industrial
park
and
then
heads
east
over
to
secessionville
and
then
head
south
on
folly
road
and
for
whatever
reason
when
this
line
was
drawn.
D
You
know
over
20
years
ago
it
included
ocean
neighbors
in
the
rural
area
and
a
lot
of
lower
folly
road
and
over
time,
that
area
has
had
some
commercial
designations
given
to
it.
In
fact,
all
of
folly
road,
all
the
properties
that
front
and
folly
road
now
have
commercial
designations
and
other
designations
through
the
folly
road
overlay
for
all
the
properties
that
the
front
on
falling,
and
we
feel
that
that
weakens
the
urban
growth
boundary.
If
we've
got
those
urban
type
designations
or
suburban
type
designations
in
an
area
that
technically
is
outside
the
ugb.
D
So
what
this
document
shows
is
an
idea
that
could
move
the
urban
growth
boundary
to
the
outer
edge
of
properties
on
the
west
side
of
folly
road
following
the
folly
road
overlay
boundary
so
that
all
the
bulk
of
the
greenville
area
to
the
west
would
stay
in
the
rural
area,
but
just
properties
fronting
on
folly
road
would
come
inside
the
ugb.
This
is
just
an
idea,
we're
throwing
out.
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You
know
if,
if
folks
don't
like
this
idea,
we
can
certainly
remove
it,
but
we
felt
it
was
very
important
in
this
era,
where
we
hear
a
lot
of
people
talk
about
strengthening
the
urban
growth
boundary.
Our
feeling
is
that
this
is
an
area
of
weakness
in
the
urban
growth
boundary,
because
we've
got
zonings
that
are
outside
it
that
are
not
compatible
with
being
in
the
rural
area,
and
this
was
an
important
change
when
we
reviewed
the
entire
urban
growth
boundary
around
the
entire
city.
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D
So
this
is
also
an
image
that
shows
parks
and
conserved
lands,
and
james
island
is
very
fortunate
to
have
lots
and
lots
of
parks
and
conserved
lands,
particularly
compared
to
other
areas.
The
city,
I
think
it
ranks
as
one
of
the
highest
areas
of
the
city
as
far
as
the
amount
of
acreage
percentage-wise
that
is
devoted
to
parks
and
conserved
lands,
and
I
think,
maybe
what
we
will
do.
Also.
D
I
want
to
leave
an
opportunity
to
folk
for
folks
to
look
at
the
the
map
there
that
we
were
showing
the
land
use
map
if
we
want
to
go
back
to
it
or
we
could
wait
to
the
end.
But
this
was
the
map
just
to
see
if
there
any
questions
about
this.
If
anybody
wanted
areas
zoomed
in
on
or
anything
like
that,
we
also
have
a
segment
where
we
are
going
to
talk
about
their
chain.
D
D
So
what
we
found
in
looking
at
james
island,
not
surprisingly,
is
that
the
high
ground,
as
chloe
outlined
earlier,
is
in
kind
of
old
waves.
Kind
of
like
john's
island
has
to
a
degree
where
old,
beach,
dunes
and
things
like
that
were,
and
this
created
the
basis
of
higher
zones
across
the
island
in
kind
of
ribbons,
and
one
of
those
ribbons
was
along
maybink
highway
folly.
Road
goes
across
a
couple
of
those
ribbons,
but
as
a
whole,
it's
not
uniformly
that
way,
but
folly.
D
Road
also
is
a
very
good
potential,
future
rapid
transit
bus,
rapid
transit
type
corridor,
and
so
we
we
see
that
as
as,
hopefully
coloring
some
of
the
land
use
along
folly
road
in
the
future.
Since
it's
an
area
that
could
be
more
walkable
and
could
allow
people
to
be
less
dependent
on
their
own
cars,
we
have
the
neighborhood
edge,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
they've
used
the
periphery
of
neighborhoods
as
places
of
connection
between
the
nearby
residential
area
and
multimodal
transportation
routes.
D
Again
like
folly
road,
we
have
the
low
impact
and
preserve
designation,
which
is
in
response
to
the
land
and
water
analysis,
which
has
areas
of
the
city
that
are
not
appropriate
for
many
types
of
future
development
due
to
the
sea
level,
rise,
potential
or
flooding
and
marsh
migration.
The
city
center:
we
have
a
couple
of
areas
that
are
showing
that
way
on
james
island
and
I
would
be
happy
to
talk
about
those.
D
D
It
has
the
already
designated
higher
density
area
from
urban
center
to
city
center
and
a
slight
expansion
of
the
city
center
category
to
include
areas
previously
under
suburban,
and
this
is
based
purely
on
the
elevations
that
exist
along
maybank
highway,
and
then
there
is
the
proposed
alternative
that
we've
talked
about
to
the
ugb
on
lower
folly.
Road
next
slide.