City of Charleston SC Citizen's Police Advisory Council, 1 Dec 2022

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Citizen’s Police Advisory Council 12/1/2022

A

Fine yeah, okay, it looks like the media. The meeting I just saw the message.

B

Yes, I believe that we are set to begin um if you'd like to as the meeting is now being live, streamed. Okay,.

A

Thank you very much good evening. Everyone and thank you so very much for tuning in to tonight's City of Charleston citizens, police, advisory council, meeting I'm Tuan B Fielding, uh the current chair for the council, and we have as members for tonight. We will do a roll call, uh so I'll wait until that time, but officially now calling the meeting to order hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving, a Happy Thanksgiving and enjoyed your family and festivities and are wonderfully looking forward to the Christmas season.

A

With that said, uh will Jeremy be doing the who's going to do the Roll Call foreign.

A

If no one is available to do so, just for the record, I'll call out the names of those who are present since the council. Members who are President were kind enough to go ahead and have their names listed. So we have Vice chairman Paul Tamborino in attendance uh council member Jerome, Harrison attendance Council on the Mac Sarah Mack in attendance, councilwoman, Doris Grant in attendance council member more you, your Machi and I, know I messed that up. Well, you know in attendance and then finally, we have Councilman Ryan Davis in attendance.

C

A

Unfortunately, our uh last two three meetings that we held- we did not have minutes that were captured because of the lack of a quorum being present and having a note taker to provide minutes for us for those meetings. We do have a set of minutes that are the ones from four meetings ago and if, with your permission, council members, we can resend those minutes to you for you to review.

A

That was my mistake to not even ensure that those were sent out to you to review, but we can go back and review those so that those can be approved at the February CPAC meeting and be able to be placed in the records. So with, uh can you reach consensus and accept that if you put your thumb up or okay, okay, smack thank you to our sugar, okay, moyu, all right and Ryan, okay Ryan might have stepped away. Okay, thank you Ryan.

A

So uh we are through consensus, going to address those minutes at the next meeting. So for some committee reports uh Vice chairman Tamborino, if you would please give us a report from the communications subcommittee and then after your report will ask councilman Harris if he would give us a report from policies and procedures.

D

um Yes, ma'am, thank you so um for the for the communications subcommittee, I did um send out the minutes to the various council members who also have a copy of that. um Basically, the good news is the subcommittee doesn't really need a corn. We didn't really vote on anything, um so, unfortunately, it was just well I I thank the police department, members um for for being president Steve, um so we had a really quick meeting since we didn't really have any other council members on there.

D

We, the purpose of the meeting, was to discuss the topic for our next public informational session. um Three different topics were put out there. um We tentatively agreed internally on a schedule knowing that we were going to bring it to the CPAC at large and there was going to be some homework done, based on what we recommended.

D

um So what we recommended was that the next meeting um be in February, Feb, February, 9th at 7, 00 pm and the topic being the racial bias dashboard, not not the results of the audit, but actually where the dashboard is, how to read it and not really digging in deep into it, because Department's not prepared for that. Yet okay they're going to need more time, so this is really about the dashboard, and then we had had this topic pending um having you know some information from the human Affairs and racial conciliation Commission.

D

um As of that meeting, the representative from h-a-r-c-c had not Community. There had not been a communication between the department um and that commission at the time. So what I did is I I did reach out and you know Joe.

D

You was going to reach out and confirm you know: can we get that communication um I've since talked to council member Harris who's, also going to help facilitate that so um I I think the concern that I would tell you all that I'd like to discuss is: will there be enough time if the the communication has not happened between the department and this commission? Yet in my from my perspective, our function is to bridge communication between the department and the citizens. It's not to highlight one group or another group on as they stand alone.

D

So what I would bring to this group is whether it may be too early to have if February may be too early to have them. Be a part of this until there's some Traction in their Communications with the Department. You know the back and forth so that we can hear about progress between the two of them rather than just progress from one side or progress from Another, Side and I'm, going to open that up. Madam chair too, you know opinions of the others, foreign.

A

Wants to weigh in provide their opinion.

D

You know that's what I'm asking you know put it plainly. What I'm asking is. Is it something if they've not had that connection yet do we think that there will be enough traction between now and February, where they'll be prepared enough to give a presentation to the public on their Cross communications and their efforts, or are we best served, maybe putting that off another quarter and moving another one of the topics to February's place, to give them more time?

D

To do that, um so you know I, I, Jerry, I know you and I've talked about that um and you being a member of that commission and being you know, you know, being involved in that. What are your thoughts on it.

E

So you know you're making me uh taking part of my committee report here buddy. Thank you.

D

E

Just messing with you.

A

E

The um the heart commission uh has included the recommendations from the task force, the special commission and the three that it will be reporting out to the city council in December written report, probably in a presentation in January, um based on what I understand from these Adrian Swinton, who was the director of that office, uh she will be meeting with the Department to coordinate and exchange information that she will include in that report.

E

I think that could be the basis for a presentation, um but it depends on you know where the deposit, how the department feels about it I think it's possible.

D

uh Here's your I just with the holidays and it being the beginning of February. We have that. Are they going to get any traction by working together at all between? It was just going to be a report delivered Department takes it back and reviews it for a month or two. uh How you know do you have any insight on how that's going to work or maybe I, can ask um D.C Walker.

D

Is really what we want to do is before we bring this to the public? We want there to have been traction from both sides right.

C

Exactly Paul I understand exactly what you're saying and the communication has not occurred. You know they had some transition in that office, so I think it will be in everyone's best interest to get at least let us have an initial meeting to assess exactly what it is that we're trying to do between both entities with the racial conciliation, um commission and the needs from the police department to push out anything that needs to be pushed out, but there hasn't been an initial meeting to date. So.

D

F

Is it would sound like chaos if they.

D

Really I don't want a bunch of idol no's. You know when we're doing a meeting for the public we have to. You know we're here to provide stability and information, and you know not gotcha moments for anybody and I. Think if they've not worked together to me, it sounds like it'll be a session of well, we don't know yet. We've not had time to process. We've just recently received their report. You know and I think it I just think it'll be a very tense discussion until those meetings have happened. That's just my perspective. No.

C

And I concur I think at least allow the initial meeting um Miss Clinton just reached out uh early apart this week and that's been scheduled for next week for initial meeting, and we can have more um at the next um council meeting Lisa with some Direction.

A

Well now, the next council meeting is February the 2nd, but this would be the communication subcommittee meeting and it sounds like uh since others have not chimed in. uh Are we by consensus saying that we recommend the communication subcommittee have that meeting at a later time, once we find out what the.

D

um What I'm going to do is is a subcommittee chair, it's my job to present. So what I'm going to say what I'm going to recommend to the CPAC is I'm going to change my recommendation um coming from the subcommittee and as a subcommittee chair I'm, recommending that we move um it's, not they don't call it. The department doesn't refer to it as traffic stops anymore, because you get stopped on a motorcycle.

D

You get stopped on your bicycle or a skateboard um I want to, and let me ask Captain McFadden if we move the move, the motor beer or the moving vehicle, that's what you called it! um The motor vehicle stop procedures. Would your team be available to do that? February, 9th.

B

Yeah I think that and Captain uh Bruder is on and there's now a new captain um Captain Stanley over traffic. So.

G

B

Think, as long as they would be ready to proceed in February um that which would be up to them, I think that um that would be doable as long as, of course, they would be prepared for that. Okay,.

D

So I I think um deputy chief Walker being a boss. Can you make that happen.

D

C

D

Paul, okay, appreciate it because I, don't I, don't wanna I, don't want to Blind sign anybody in your team either. You know I want to know that y'all are prepared, we're not putting something up. I like the idea. You know guys. If you read my notes. uh One of the upcoming topics is going to be a new uh Narcan initiative. They just need to finalize a grant and other things in place.

D

I think that's going to be awesome, uh but I think the motor vehicles is probably going to be the closest to being ready of the topics we have available to us. So not ensure I'm. Changing my recommendation from the communication subcommittee and I'm, putting it out to the team that um I'd like to have the motor vehicle um stop. uh You know overview um to be our next session. February 9th.

A

Okay, all right uh since now, that is, that meeting going to be open to the entire CPAP or you're, just keeping it to the communication subcommittee.

D

No, the February 9th meeting would be the public that public forum education so.

A

Everybody would participate, I have a meeting. You need to have a meeting go before that. Don't you.

D

We we typically, uh we typically will do we do. We have a meeting beforehand, just as a driver we'll do like we'll do subcommittee um sessions, but we invite everybody. So everybody on cpac's invited to our preparation session, where what will happen is you'll have whoever the representative is from the new captain will come if they're the representative to go over so we'll have also have a session within the next two weeks or so I'll talk about what the expectations are and.

A

Yeah see I was I was thinking typically, uh it's the subcomm, it's just the communication subcommittee that had met in the past and picked what we wanted to have presented to the community.

A

um So when you set, whenever you look at the date for setting the meeting Force for the meeting before the public meeting, uh please make sure to send that out to to everyone and not just the communication subcommittee.

D

Yep, what I wanted well I just want to consider everybody on a subcommittee. um What I'm gonna do is I'll. Probably you know now that I know we're gonna change. The topic I'll work with the Department on getting the contact name and a day once they've broken the bad news that they've all and told them uh and I'll set up a meeting in the next couple weeks. I'll invite everybody.

D

This will be the meeting where we discuss what we'd like to have talked about what the structure is going to be just the logistics of what the session will be.

D

Then we do a secondary session about a week or two before the public session, just to make sure do a dry run through the presentation to make sure that it's now done, and it's almost like a rehearsal again I'll invite everybody to that as well, because the goal is for as many people not only to participate in those, but for all those people to be able to be co-hosts on our actual public session. So it's not just one or two yeah.

B

Okay, I'll help you facilitate me and um Jill can help with that, and it would be. It is a good idea, as we have a new captain, a new lieutenant over traffic. So um we can help facilitate with that in the next few weeks and.

D

And I know: that's your specialty. Christy I'll follow up after the meeting okay perfect to get that.

F

D

I mean once you once you guys have reached out: let them know that they've just been voluntold, you know rank, has such privileges right um then we'll we'll coordinate a meeting. So that's fine Joe, once they've done that you'll know and just reach out to me, and let me know and just give me some good dates um and then I'll work with the rest of the CPAC foreign chair. That's pretty much what I've got from the communications subcommittee? Okay, unless anybody's got any questions, comments or concerns for me.

A

Any questions for Paul thanks.

D

Everyone communication.

A

Subcommittee: okay, thank you very much uh councilman Harris and before he starts I wanted to let everyone know remember we had a traffic, stop subcommittee and I did uh contact some folks to see if they would mind a chairing.

A

That subcommittee, because we've had changes in membership on the council and unfortunately, everyone was very shy to wanting to take on that responsibility and in talking with council member Harris and the fact that he is the chairman for the subcommittee over policies and procedures and the motor vehicle stops before we call the traffic stops, uh is a policy or a procedure and he was accommodating and willing to accept it as an item that that particular subcommittee would review. So many thanks to you councilman Harris.

A

uh This is the first time we've been able to formally thank you for accepting because of the lack of attendance that we had in the previous meetings and without corn. We just did not have the meeting or we had a meeting, and there were no minutes to record the same. So thank you again formally for accepting that responsibility. And now, if you would, please give us your policies and procedure subcommittee report, certainly.

E

The policy and procedure committee met on the 16th. There were no recommendations for Action specific action to present to the full body. um There are some updates that will not and I won't make updates that will replicate what Captain crotella will do later, as it relates to the um procedures general order updates for 2023..

E

um He did identify and Report out to us that there are now a total of 82 uh general orders um in 2020, 22 21 have been updated and 18 remain pending in 2022 2022 of those 18. There are three which were priority set by CPAC.

E

um They include general order, 25, Les lethal and lethal weapons, uh general order, 40 juvenile operations and uh general order. 82 referred to in this document that I have from Captain crotella as uh Traffic Unit. So those remain to be reviewed, circulated and commented on by CPAC.

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E

Part of the 2022 activities um the Captain critella, will report we'll just give us a description of what is being proposed for 2023, uh four or five item on our agenda had to do with the third party racial bias. Audit assessment um that was a uh an RFP, was issued, been previously reported that it was only one response to that rrfp for an assessment of the implementation of the racial bias audit recommendations.

E

uh Captain patella indicated to us that the department is in the discussions with higher educational institutions uh to undertake uh uh to accomplish that mission within the resources that are available. Information will be reported out to us as they make progress in that regard.

E

um There was a uh item number five had to do with CPAC guidelines. Revisions, um uh Steve rumlin reported uh there were up discussions about possibility of making amendments to those guidelines uh and that there will be meetings held involving CPAC for input in that in that process, going forward, um Jillian uh presented an update uh of her work and indicated that priorities in her work included updating the 20 to 2025, Community Police, Department, Mr, cheek uh action plan and undertaking of community survey.

E

uh I reported out in an update for the human Affairs and racial consolidation commission about the commission meets on the third Thursday of every month.

E

um That and said been doing so since June, the um commission has been uh will be making a report uh status report on this process. Progress to the city council. That report is due in December uh the three areas that will be from the special commission report that will be commented on or the items of Criminal Justice, Reform, economic, empowerment, housing and Mobility.

E

The commission is seeing uh in this discussion that there is intersection amongst all those things um and finally, um um chairman Fielding reported out on the process that we will be using in the election, uh and that concludes my report. Madam chair.

A

Thank you. Any questions for councilman Harris students, policies and procedures.

A

Okay, no questions, oh and good evening, uh Chief Reynolds good to see you on sir.

H

Great to see you thank you, so much I miss seeing everybody and I'm excited to be on the call tonight a lot of good things being covered thanks. Thank you.

A

Okay, so now for the updates, Captain critella, with the uh kind of Falls in line with what councilman Harris was just talking about, but the other general orders scheduled for future review and I asked Captain crotella to share that information with us, and so we can make plans for being able to read the documents and submit any comments back in a timely manner. Captain crotella. Thank you very much, sir, for agreeing to provide that information tonight.

G

Yes, ma'am, um so just go back to uh chairman Harris's comments. um The three outstanding policies that are left are less Lethal lethal weapons, juvenile operations and Traffic Unit after Captain Bruder does his presentation tonight uh next week you guys will receive the traffic policy and it'll be in the same format that we did it. The main reason why he is presenting tonight is sometimes it's easier to understand things via presentation than read it via email, so after the Traffic Unit is out next week.

G

After that will run its course, then you guys will receive juvenile operations and then the last is Les lethal and lethal weapons. So those will come by the end of the year and in terms of the policies next year that we're looking at is that there's 30 policies that we'll be reviewing I emailed emailed this to Chairman Harris it was before Thanksgiving. Did you receive those.

E

Lastly, did the Wednesday the Wednesday before Thanksgiving, just.

G

Want to make sure I have the right email, because I know.

E

I did I did get them.

G

Perfect Captain, all right and as we talked about in the last meeting, is that I believe that you guys would decide which ones you guys want to focus on. I think five is a good number and if you want more, that's fine, just let us know, and once we get those we'll start to work on those any questions with the ones that we plan to review by the end of this year or next year's.

A

Just as a reminder, council members, all of us are reviewing the policies when Captain patella sends them out, not just the policy and prestigious subcommittee. The subcommittee is just looking at helping to identify the prioritization of those policies and procedures for review, but all of us, as council members are expected, and it would greatly be appreciated that you would read through them and send your comments back to Capital Hotel in a timely manner. Foreign.

A

Okay, thank you. Captain patella, now.

E

A

Bruder is going to give us an update on constitutional issues and stops policy.

I

Good evening, everyone good to see everybody again um so just a little bit of context around the Constitutional issues and stops policy. As you all know, we've been talking about. The traffic stops policy for a while. It was really all over the place and policy that reference traffic stops or traffic enforcement. It had a lot of different terms and you know context surrounding it, and we really struggled with how to implement that into the traffic team policy and the traffic units when it and when it does apply to all officers.

I

All officers can conduct motor vehicle stops, and so that's really, where we've gone back and forth on where to put this, and we thought we figured that constitutional issues and stops is the best place to to add some of the language. We're going to talk about tonight into that policy and really clear it up, um and one of the biggest things is, is you'll, probably catch myself, correct and catch me. Correcting myself tonight um is moving away from that terminology of traffic stops or traffic enforcement.

I

We're really going to try to focus on Motor, Vehicle stops or vehicle stops. That's not difficult for us to do when we talk about pedestrian stops or bicycle stops, but for some reason- and we generally- we all know it um vehicle stops- are how we're going to refer to that from now on, because I think it just sets the a larger scale.

I

When you talk about traffic enforcement or traffic stops, I think it immediately implies, or at least to some consumptions that we're talking about speeding or DUI or reckless driving or things that are that are traffic infractions and, and that's just simply not the case of everything that we use vehicle stops for, because vehicle stops are a tool just like community.

I

Policing is a tool for us to address issues in the community, so that's kind of like the overarching theme um is just simply transitioning, that into uh vehicle stops and putting that into policy with constitutional issues and stops um where we Define other types of stops. So, aside from that kind of theme there with it of just you know, changing the language there to to be more encompassing um the the policy revisions are pretty much going to do three things centered around vehicle stops.

I

The first is just to create the policy to call them motor vehicle stops and identify what they are and and why we do them as a department. And, of course, we do them to address driving bad driving and and ensure that vehicles are safe on the road, so safety and Equipment of infractions, um but there's a whole Myriad of other things that we also use vehicle stops for that. That previously was either muddied or not clear in policy and those things are um still constitutionally allowed.

I

But there are things to address crime, whether it's a bolo for a robbery, suspect or a vehicle that might fit a description of something. We have a myriad of tools that we can use and reasons to conduct motor vehicle stops, but that previously was either like I said vague or not in policy, and that's really.

I

One of the key things we wanted to do is Define that for the community and understand why we do stops, but equally as important and arguably in some cases, more important for our officers to understand that we do want those types of stops being done as our department that everything's not centered on you know roadway safety or traffic related enforcement. We do have other reasons to do that.

I

That's one of the key pieces here, you'll see when that language comes comes out and you get the draft policy policy to look at is just identifying motor vehicle stops as a tool for the police department and and that there's multiple reasons why we use those tools.

I

um Stopping a motor vehicle is no different than stopping a person walking down the street um other than the fact that you can't have consensual motor vehicle stops. So we have to. We have to at least have Reasonable Suspicion to stop a car um and I. Think just uh I was listening on the previous conversation. I think that's the kind of thing we can talk about when we talk about this policy, possibly in February, because likely y'all will just hear another version of this um down in a couple months.

I

um The second key key piece of the policy is really to just transition that pilot program. We talked about at the beginning of January 21, to document all um what we call self-initiated or proactive activity, we're going we're going to move that from um pilot phase into part of policy. So now it'll be part of policy. It'll be clear for everybody that we will document Via, Field contact card, that's what we call it via that document. All all stops to include motor vehicle stops.

I

um So it is a little duplicate of work, but we haven't really got the technology to figure that out yet, but it's very beneficial that for what we're able to see um and and go from there, another thing that we're going to do as a part of that second bullet point is to clarify the policy on consent. Searches.

I

um We've had several different iterations of that over this over the last few years, but we're going to clarify that and uh officers constitutionally officers can ask consent from anybody, but that's generally not a good practice. There's some research on that they're just asking people, because you can to search them, doesn't necessarily um it's not efficient and it's not a good Community tool to build trust in the community.

I

um So um we're going to clarify the policy on that that you need to have a reason, a particular reason why you're asking for consent- and that must be documented in the field contact as well. So again, we've had some conflicting stuff on that, but we really feel like that's an important piece to clarify here as we're rolling out this policy um and the third thing- and this is um some instances- we have examples of them and some we're still working on.

I

um Is we added a section at the the end just for regular review of traffic? Stops we're not exactly sure how it's going to look, because we're still collecting the data, we're still trying to figure out exactly how this works, um but we know that we need to be looking at our traffic stop data on a regular basis and as we get that the language is very similar to other policies, we need to review it.

I

um I can tell you and I think I've had enough conversations with you all that I'm I'm very objective based and we're going to figure out how we can use this to make sure what we're doing is actually working um I'm, just not sure being about week three as the patrol Commander. Now that I know exactly what that's going to look like, but um we we have had some review of traffic stops um pertinent to the Traffic.

I

Unit they've had some adjusted Focus for the 2022 year and um they really were attacking the objective of reducing alcohol-related, violent collisions, especially in the evening and overnight hours and they've done a tremendous job. I don't want to jinx them and give their results out yet. But I think y'all heard some of our other conversations about that.

I

In the past that that really is working, our DUI arrest, they're really doing some great work out there, they're in strategic and data driven areas and they're, really having a positive effect on that and um and really seeing a change in in what our fatals were this past year um for collisions out there. So that's really um the three key pieces of the policy. That's going to be rolling out again, that is separate from the traffic team policy, which is which encompasses a lot more.

I

That's going to be general or 82 that uh Captain Patel just mentioned, um but that's what we're looking to get finalized, get it through the last step of some some final language updates from legal and then I plan to be going out to uh all of the Roll calls and Patrol, and talking to the officers about that, because I really think this is a big step forward for them. It helps put them on solid footing as to what we expect as an agency and uh and what the community expects of us to be put handling.

I

These stops with that I'll open up to any uh questions. If you have them.

A

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A

For Captain Broder.

A

So remember now: it's gonna be vehicle, stops okay, councilman Harris.

E

Well, all three of the elements you described be in a single general order. Yes,.

I

Sir, it all beings, you know between nine constantly soy season, stops.

E

29., thank you.

A

Foreign, any other questions for Captain Bruder.

A

Okay, so please check your emails now um when you see Captain Buddha Captain portella send out an email with the documents. Please make sure you check to ensure that you received it. uh If you and please, let's start uh replying back to the sender of the email, so that the sender knows that you have received it. uh Vice chairman Tamborino, has been really good about sending emails back out, reminders back out to everyone, but to help lessen that responsibility.

A

When you receive an email, please send back just to the sender not to everybody on the email now, but just to the sender. Let the sender know that you have received the email that the sender sent to you. Okay, any questions about that. I didn't confuse you with that. Did I no okay good deal! Thank you, man, all right and then now Captain McFadden will give us the community engagement, that's underway. uh We did get a couple of emails here recently.

A

So if you get a chance to go to any of those sessions at MUSC, it's really pretty I did see it once uh previously. It's a really really moving uh event. So if you get a chance to go to any of those dates that Captain uh McFadden sent out to us, please do so I I really think you'll enjoy it. Captain.

D

Mcfadden I'll just say that that I I wanna I wanna agree with you. I, went and saw it last year be close enough to see the children with their flashlights in the windows. That's the most powerful thing of all.

A

Yeah yeah it is, it really is. Thank you Captain McFadden.

A

B

You're welcome, um okay, so I'll just start out with these are kind of the updates from what the Outreach to team did for October and November. So just some of our um notable Outreach, um we did some presentations at our senior centers, which has been reoccurring on crime prevention when to call the police for help and also had animal control prevent or present at their request.

B

um We completed our year-long community pod mentorship program with low country Youth Services, and we did kind of an uh end of program, um Community event in at our gathering, Center back in October, and then we did recently begin, though another mentorship program um at uh CE, Williams North. That was at the request of the SRO, who failed some of our officers.

B

um Some of the kids in our school would benefit from a mentorship program, so they actually started a recess mentorship. That's um twice a week now, and so we plan to continue with that. If we have a good platform, then we could start working with some other sros to get into some other schools as well um again October.

B

We just had an abundance of fall festivals and um in the communities and at some Churches and food drives as well, and then we presented and participated in the drug-free week at Blessed, Sacrament um officer Hamilton continues to hold his baseball clinics clinics at Martin Park. We are looking to possibly move to different areas throughout the city.

B

um With those clinics we did the walk like mad Community event and uh we held Super Saturday at was a community event at the multi-purpose Learning Center in Robert Mills. That was sponsored by the navigation Center. That's actually the picture in the bottom left with um now Lieutenant Ingalls and us trying to build something there. uh Moving on to some of our programs, um our Alice training that um uh our officers do. We did that.

B

That's the active shooter training at Charleston, School of Law Roper, St Francis, the Edmonston Alston house and the Charleston Housing Authority. We do plan to do a video to highlight officer, Millet and his presentation in order to um get that out to more businesses and apartment complexes, etc. For people who want that training. uh We also did back in October our national faith and blue weekend. We partnered with Chick-fil-A for the Special Olympics fundraiser we partnered with Ashley River Baptist Church, for like the greenway with the community and St Andrews press.

B

We did fellowship and Community dialogue over there and then we also um a new event. We partnered with spirit and Truth Church in the Robert Mills Community for dialogue with s'mores and copy over with the community members, so that was a pretty good turnout. Our police, Citizens Academy weekly completed that I received some good feedback. We did the video with the interviews with our attendees and then that's the bottom right photo. That was on the special ops day when they were about to um send the canine in.

B

For one of the scenarios we had um coffee with a cup we're still doing that as well partnership project they assisted with the day of caring, which was sponsored by the United Way that was in Rosemont neighborhood a couple weeks ago.

B

Also our project coordinator under the cosap grant started about a month ago. We also launched our Sims software program for data collection. Basically, we've been collecting the non-fatal overdose information on a spreadsheet. It's very detailed, however, with the cosap grant we're able to start with a software program which is now going to be collecting that data for us and also a multi-agency within Charleston County.

B

So our project coordinator is going to be working with these other agencies to identify high incident areas and locations that need resources, Outreach or if we need to do further investigation in those areas so and that actually she's going to be presenting for one of our public webinars, uh one of Paul's public webinars, probably the second quarter of the year, so that should be a pretty informative webinar for the public and so just moving on to some upcoming items. The good night lights that you guys mentioned again that I sent out the map.

B

So if you want to see the lights from the the kids from the hospital, probably zones, one two or three you can park on a side street, you could just walk up um hang out with some of the First Responders. They come from all over the Tri-County area.

B

So it's pretty cool, just chit chat with people from other areas as well, um and then uh the cops and kids sponsored by the fop and lens is this Saturday at Central Mall so we'll be over there Santa's Escort Ride I sent you an email on that with the flyer on the 14th and um Doris has volunteered to help us wrap gifts. So I appreciate that and then we'll be participating. Our amount of Patrol is going to be participating with Palmetto carriage works for some neighborhood rides. I.

B

Think they're going to do a couple neighborhoods once I know a little bit more I'll be able to get some information to you for that and Toys for Tots is always Christmas morning. I did it last year. It's a really good event: Sergeant staggers kind of heads that up every single year. So we'll be doing that again, of course, and then, as for our community survey project me and Jillian, began working on that and doing some research and some layout.

B

So we continue to work um on that as well and that's those are all the updates I have for you.

A

Any questions anyone.

A

Some great updates to you Captain McMahon. Thank you. Thank you very much and again, if you, if you don't get a chance to at least email Captain McFadden, if you're going to be able to attend or participate in any of them, uh when you get there stop by and find try to find her. So she knows that you're there or find someone so that they know that you are there are able to participate.

A

Thank you, uh-huh you're, welcome. Thank you. Any questions about anything. We've discussed thus far everyone's good okay. Well now it carries us to the election of the CPAC chairperson, and vice chairperson and I. Do want to thank all of you for the support that you have given me and the position since the Inception and when Paul Tamborino joined us and he willingly accepted being the vice chairman. Thank you for how you have participated all these years. uh We do not and I know, I'll speak for me.

A

I'll give Paul his opportunity to talk, but I do believe that uh leadership on organizations should change so that there could be some diversity and versatility expressed in the organization. I have enjoyed working with all of you.

A

All I will continue to be working on the CPAC, of course, because my council, member still has me as our representative, but with that being said, I'll turn it over to Paul for him to say some comments, and then, after that, we'll open the floor for nominations for the position of chairperson and vice chairperson and before Paul right before you speak many thanks to Jill for agreeing to develop a poll uh on this call.

A

So we would be able to vote right from this on this call and not have to worry about remembering to send an email vote to her at a later time. So thank you. Joe.

D

Paul I'm sure the only thing I have to say is I think we all thank you for your leadership and guidance on being the inaugural chair is not the easiest thing to do in the world and you've done it with not only Grace, but I would just I mean from my perspective, Excellence um I mean we're not bidding you.

F

Farewell obviously, but I think it's.

D

Important that you, from my perspective, we wouldn't be here today if it weren't for you, um because you you have better glue and I know last year, I was able to uh calling you into doing it again and you know I think we all valued um and we all benefited from that year.

D

um So I don't apologize for that at all. So thank you for everything. You've done for us.

A

Welcome. Thank you for your expression. Okay. Now the floor is now open for nominations, for the position of chairperson.

D

uh Madam, chair I just want to be clear. You you will not take the position again.

A

No sir I will not be taking the position.

A

I will continue to work as a member uh I do think, there's lots of value in in the purposes of CPAC, and so uh for as long as my council member or, if there's uh any change in the organization. If my, if my skill set is still seeing this value added, I would definitely participate. But thank you for asking that councilman Harris I.

E

Nominate Paul Tamborino for chair.

A

Okay, we've got Paul Tamborino on any other nominations.

A

Any other nominations for chairperson.

A

You can nominate others uh just in case you're wondering is not once somebody does a nomination, that's it. You can nominate others.

A

Okay, is there a motion to close the nominations on the one name: okay, councilmember Matt. Yes, I closed the nomination on Paul Tamara burrito. Thank you, ma'am is there. A second is.

E

F

Second, to that nomination, second,.

A

Okay, thank you. Councilman Harris has been properly moved and seconded that we closed the nominations for chairperson on the name of Paul Tamborino, and with there only being one congratulations, Paul Tamborino, you will be our new CPAC chairman thank.

F

A

Much thank you very much. Now the floor is open for nominations for Vice, chairperson, okay, Paul Tamborino.

D

um I'd like to return the favor and my I hate to say it on a police call my partner in crime, but if you saw some of the citizens, Police Academy you'd know, I've got a partner in crime and I'd like to nominate um Jerry to be the the vice chair, because you know I find his counsel very, um very important to me.

A

Okay, thank you. Nomination of uh everyone sees it as Jerome Harris on the screen. We all call him Jerry his name. Is there Jerome Harris nomination for uh Vice chairman and Ryan? Oh no Jerry. You had your hand down.

E

Yeah I want to nominate Doris Grant.

A

Okay, Doris Grant, um Madame Raider.

E

I'm not able to accept that appointment. Thank you. Jerry.

A

Okay, thank you very much. Ryan is smiling Ryan. Do you have a nomination.

F

I, do not oh I, like you I like Jerry right there. That's a good idea. All right.

A

The floor is still open for nominations for Vice, chairperson.

A

Floor is still open for nominations for Vice chairperson.

A

Is there a nomination to close? Is there a motion to close the nominations on the one named Jerome Harris councilman.

F

A

A

Thank you, ma'am Ryan, you jumping in for the second. Yes,.

F

A

Thank you very much. It has been properly moved and seconded that the nominations be closed on the one name: Jerome Harris for CPAC Vice, chairperson, all those in favor I I, pose same side. Okay, thank you and I did not carry the first one through the same situation. So please, let's go back to that first motion, so we can carry that out properly. That nomination was for Paul. Tambarino was probably moved and seconded that Paul tambarino be the chairperson for CPAC uh all those in favor signify by saying I or.

D

A

Up: okay, thank you! Any opposition, please say I as well: okay and I'm doing that same sign situation because we're on zoom and not in person. Well, congratulations! Paul, Tamborino and Jerry Harris Jerome Harris! Thank you all so very much for your willingness to accept the nominations, and uh please know that all of us that are on here since you turned your camera on I know. That means we are all in very much so support of you in your new positions.

A

Now we'll go to topics for future discussions for the February meeting. I am going through the notes that I had uh it appeared that we we need to definitely talk about updates to new council members. I know: Steve romlin has been talking with the mayor as well as his leadership in that regard. So hopefully Paul at the February meeting you'll have some information regarding the same and then the racial bias audit update I know we were thinking.

A

We would have that update at this meeting, but in talking with Jill and Captain patella, we decided it was probably going to be better suited based on the interactions that are currently going on. It would be better suited to look for something at the February meeting and even if at the February meeting, there's not a full report. uh Chairman incoming chairman, Tamborino I know you you'll know what best to do with the agenda.

A

Given your discussions that you hopefully will be able to have by that time with the the special subcomm, the special commission that was set for other racial bias, audit, any other topics you can think of that we need to have on that agenda.

E

Madam chair just for clarification, yes, sir um Steve rumlin uh is indicated. Not only are we talking about the possibility of new members appointments, but also the possibility of guidelines changes should that that are they both the same in, in your mind, your mind as it relates to this this item, or is that a separate discussion.

A

I uh I, wouldn't they could be the same or they could be different. It depends on what decisions are made and I'm certain that once those if, if any actions occur, to make differences, I'm sure Steve will coordinate with chairman uh incoming chairman Tamborino to ensure that the proper information is shared with all of us at the next meeting.

A

If there's an update to be given in February.

D

Yeah Jared I think it's improper to put his agenda item now. If we don't know that the council has actually done that because that's kind of us forcing their hand as opposed to them, announcing to us their changes and then us discussing what they are.

A

And we didn't create ourselves. City, council and mayor created this Council, and so we have to.

A

We do know that there's some discussions underway and I'm sure Steve will be sevis had to listen to me, Ben to his ear a number of times so I'm quite sure he is definitely going to be on it to be able to provide us additional information, uh hopefully at the February meeting foreign I do think that on the future discussion uh for the February meeting, we probably need to talk about the inputs that the that Captain catella receives on those general orders.

A

So that might be one to have on an additional one to have on the agenda.

A

Any other suggested items for the agenda.

F

uh I would like to see something maybe on the police and the schools, and you know how they're you know how how they're placed- and you know what their roles are there: okay, because I I have kids in the public, schools and they're concerned. You know still with the shootings going on so I'd like to hear more about that I think it'd be important right now: okay, okay,.

A

So let's put uh next item. Another item is police policing in the schools. Slash SRO I have student resource officers at the schools, a really security Ryan right security at the school? Yes, yes,.

F

A

A

Thank you and thank you councilman Harris too any other items to add any other suggestions.

A

Now I will tell you that I know those four well, those three we have come up with uh much like what I did I'm sure Paul will do the same. There is some latitude where he adds where he will probably add some items. After talking with Jill and with Steve, there may be other items that will be added to the agenda that you may not have suggested.

A

We may not have suggested tonight, but based on timing and actions that have occurred between the time of this meeting and the February meeting, then some things may show up on the agenda for uh discussion and awareness. Okay, any other items for discussion.

A

Well, since we are at the point of adjournment, I, don't know Chief, Reynolds I, don't know if you wanted to say anything more uh while you were on because we haven't seen you in a while.

A

You do look good and so glad that you were able to join, but did want to give you a moment if you wanted to share some additional items with us, and we definitely thank you for the awesome support from deputy chief walker, uh Thompson Captain Katella, Captain, McFadden, Captain, Bruder they've, just been awesome, representing you are doing this period when you weren't able to be visible with us.

A

We know that your thoughts were with us, but during that time they have just been Stellar in ensuring that we find out information and are able to work through some hurdles as well as look at some progress that we can make, and thank you so very much chief for all of the support you have given since question of this Council and the progress that we have been able to make to this point.

H

Thank you, um chair uh person, Twan and um just all of our counsel and I see cheetah there with his dome light on he's out doing the good night lights tonight with the hospital and the kids and um I I can't be more grateful for uh Tito's leadership and um and all of the members of the council and the CPAC, and um you named uh our team and just so much work. That goes on behind the scenes and I'm grateful for the engagement I'm.

H

Grateful for your commitment to continuing to hold us accountable to be engaged with us on these important issues and just to make sure that we continue to make progress and do everything we can to to serve our residents and our city and make sure that we're pointing in the right direction now I'm excited to see Jill on the call you've obviously begun to meet her and and you'll hear a lot more from her and just the last couple weeks we've been.

H

um We have kind of a short turnaround on some opioid opportunities to do more as a city and just kind of rolled our sleeves up and but probably still working on that tonight. On some stuff related to that and there's a lot of things going on and I just see, uh Sarah and I see Doris and I, see Jerome and Moya and um uh Ryan, and- and uh you know, Paul and I I. Just uh it's gratifying um that you're hanging in there with us that you're you're more than hanging in there I.

H

You know I'm glad Ryan that you mentioned the schools. That's a huge huge topic! uh I'll tell you it's interesting! When I look at other parts of the country and talk to my counterparts, there are places in the country where they're getting rid of their sros um and they're they're. It's just it's shameful in my opinion, because I think um it's an extremely important integral part of what we do in policing when it's done well, especially, and um here the barrier complaint is that everybody wants an SRO and we can't provide them in every school.

H

So I think it's important to discuss. Why they're in certain schools and not in others, what is our ssrt, which is uh school safety response team?

H

That is a model that I think finds the right balance to adequately protect and serve all of our schools and be engaged with the kids and um and do an Outreach and and education, and just there's so much that we do um and that's a great example of something that I know is on the Forefront of every parent's mind as their kids go to school and they read about all these crazy things going on in our world. um So I just say. Thank you, um I I! Don't think we'll see you before Christmas.

H

So if that's the case, I wish everybody a great Christmas, a great holiday, whatever your Traditions are I I'm I hope that you find time to uh be with family and um and just build your own family and your faith and I will tell you. I, haven't been through a lot of surgeries and a lot of challenges this past year.

H

There's nothing more important to me and nothing more dear to me than my faith in my family and I count you all among that um that important group that I I count close to me in terms of supporting me encouraging me and helping each other make a difference and, and we're not striving for perfection in what we do.

H

It's our job to continue to make sure that we make things better and incrementally you know that we're pointing in the right direction and that we're making progress and that we're doing the best that we can across the board to serve of our residents and the people that we are accountable for so I'll stop there and just tell you I'm grateful for you, I've heard from most of you in some form or fashion um I and one I'm still using my I think I. Finally, just finished up my gift card for Chick-fil-A.

H

um Thank you and just just the you know. Little calls I get occasionally um from many of you and and Jerry's always prodding us and asking good questions and and making recommendations and suggestions. I'm excited about- and you know, cheeto's been a big part of this, but some of the things like the the outside review, we're making progress on that. Finally, um it's taken some time, but uh that's that's in in process um and we're getting close and so anyways I'll. Stop there I'm grateful for all of you um and I'm.

H

So thankful for the team that is is continues to develop and and I I'm excited about. We talked today um not to believe this, but we talked today about Internal, Affairs and and our PSO office, and and just we, we had a probably a 45 minute conversation amongst our upper level command, the deputy Chiefs cheetah myself and Tony and others, and just you know what we're doing, how we're doing it.

H

Why we're doing it the creating the culture of accountability that we all want and not just saying we're doing it, but actually making pivots in the right direction and so um developing supervisors that are uh always, you know, constantly paying attention and leading and and accountable and doing the right things for the right reasons and um and so anyways I you're, all a part of that, and and whether you know it or not, your your questions, your input, your prodding, um is an integral part of who we are what we do and it's frustrating I think at times um for all of us and and it it's it's been a lot of work.

H

I know for our team, um just a traffic policy alone, I I can't say enough. Thank you. uh Jason Bruder, who's, literally shopped it around the country, he's gotten input from people in other departments um and uh and and he's you've gotten a lot of input from the people here. But ultimately it needs to be implemented. It needs to be um uh in in place and will continue to make it better and we'll take your input.

H

But that's a really important policy see when you look at where we've been and where we're headed and so no small tasks to try to put that in words and and in action in our organization. Not to just you know, check a block and say hey: we we did that policy he's in charge of Patrol now and he's already talking it up with all of his commanders, his team leaders um and and he's looking at the data he's a data guy, and what are we doing? Why are we doing it? How are we doing it?

H

um He kind of touched on trying to keep it at this simple, but then how does that affect our outcomes where we still are keeping our communities safe, but we're treating people with dignity and respect and we're doing it in the way that we should be doing it so I'll stop there, but I'm grateful for you. I'll tell you I'm grateful to be alive and I'm grateful to be a part of something so important and work with so many really good people in a city that has supported me, I can't tell you.

H

I I was just telling somebody a story: I I go to the barbershop up and people in there.

H

You know thanking me and and telling me they're, covering me with prayer, and you know encouraging me and I, just it's a special thing for me and my family um and I'm still going through a lot of stuff I'm still, you know, I got to keep working on this and keeping the fight and but I'm I'm working full time and and I I'm thankful to continue to be surrounded by um our team, and especially you know, Cheeto and the captains here on the call and uh doing the work that we're doing so I'll stop there.

H

Thank you for the opportunity.

A

Oh, you are very welcome and it's always good to get a chance to see you and uh I'll I'll work on getting some more milkshakes for you.

H

Let's do it together next time.

A

That would be great well everyone. Thank you. So very much for your time tonight. Jill. Thank you for talking to me. The emails back and forth I really truly appreciate it. Everyone please have a merry and a happy holiday season, just as uh Chief said, if it's Merry, Christmas or happy Hanukkah whatever it is, you celebrate with your family, please do it safely and and be uh very much so in enjoying that time that you spend with each other. With that said, tonight's meeting is adjourned. Take care, everybody good to see you and take care.

H