►
From YouTube: CPAC CPD Motor Vehicle Stop Public Webinar 02/09/2023
Description
CPAC CPD Motor Vehicle Stop Public Webinar 02/09/2023
A
Please
well
good
evening
and
thank
you
everybody
for
joining
us.
This
is
the
I
believe
it's
the
fourth
public
session,
the
the
City
of
Charleston
citizens,
police
advisory
Council
has
held
for
the
public,
and
this
is
just
an
ongoing
series
of
different
public
information
events.
Typically,
you
know
led
by
CPAC
with
you
know
the
Charleston
Police
Department
being
the
subject
matter.
Experts
on
a
variety
of
topics
tonight
we're
going
to
address
motor
vehicle
stops
and
we
have
a
pretty
pretty
good
plan
for
you.
A
So
what
I
first
want
to
do
is
I
want
to
do
some
introductions.
If
you
don't
mind,
let's
start
with
councilman
Harris.
B
Good
evening
Jerry
Harris
Vice,
chair
of
the
CPAC
appointed
in
May
of
2020
by
mayor
tecklenburg,.
C
A
Thank
you,
Jill.
A
A
D
Thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you.
Everyone
who
is
joining
us
tonight
I
want
to
welcome
you
all
to
the
continuation
of
our
series
of
presentations
that
we
have
organized
through
CPAC,
which
stands
for
the
citizens
police
advisory
Council.
We
do
this
in
partnership
with
the
Charleston
Police
Department.
We
aim
to
do
one
of
these
quarterly,
each
one
being
a
different
topic.
Tonight's
topic
is
Charleston
Police
motor
vehicle
stops.
D
One
of
the
recommendations
was
to
form
the
CPAC,
and
so
the
CPAC
has
three
main
focus
areas:
Communications
the
review
of
general
orders
and
policies
as
they,
and
also
the
one
that
we're
going
to
hear
about
tonight.
Motor
vehicle
stops,
and
so
since
this
is
one
of
our
three
main
areas
of
focus
we
saw,
it
was
an
important
topic
for
us
to
discuss
as
one
of
our
quarterly
informational
sessions.
D
D
Tonight,
we're
going
to
talk
about
some
of
the
things
that
Charleston
Police
Department
does
differently
than
other
agencies
around
the
country
and,
as
it
relates
to
motor
vehicle,
stops
a
lot
of
us
on
CPAC
participate
in
the
citizens,
Police
Academy
that
is
put
on
by
the
CPD.
We
encourage
all
residents
of
the
City
of
Charleston
to
enroll
in
assistance,
Police
Academy,
to
get
a
first-hand
experience
of
how
the
CPD
handles
motor
vehicle
stops
firsthand
before
we
get
started.
E
Thanks
so
much
Emily
and
thank
you
to
our
CPAC,
chairperson
and
just
all
the
people
that
are
on
the
call
right
now
that
have
put
together
not
only
this
presentation
but
just
identifying
these
topics
and
challenging
us
to
be
more
transparent
and
to
discuss
more
about
what
we
do,
how
we
do
it,
why
we
do
it
so
I'm
excited
to
hear
from
Captain
Bruder
he's
going
to
do
the
the
majority
of
the
presentation
and
I
just
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
traffic.
It's
a
very
important
thing.
E
If,
if
you
go
to
any
jurisdiction
in
the
country,
any
of
our
teams
in
the
city,
anybody
anywhere
in
the
Low
Country,
the
number
one
complaint
is
traffic
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
things
that
we
deal
with
with
fatalities
with
personal
injury,
collisions
with
property
damage,
with
quality
of
life,
complaints
and
there's
so
much
that
we
need
to
do.
But
we
need
to
do
it
with
our
communities.
So
tonight
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
we
do
traffic
stops,
how
we
do
them.
E
What
that
entails,
and
and
I'll
tell
you
for
me
I
and
Jason,
and
others
have
heard
me
say
this
probably
get
tired
of
hearing
me
say
it,
but
I
talk
about
the
three
E's
a
lot
when
it
comes
to
traffic,
engineering,
education
and
enforcement,
and
by
no
means
can
we
solve
these
really
substantial
complex
issues
with
just
enforcement
enforcement
becomes
part
of
our
effort,
but
there's
so
much
more
that
we
can
do
with
education
and
with
engineering
and
a
lot
of
different
areas
in
the
city.
E
So
when
we
look
at
these
things,
we
look
at
them
from
a
problem
solving
perspective
and
and
ultimately
our
goal
is
to
save
lives,
and
so
we're
very
intentional
about
our
objectives.
We've
through
the
audit.
We
have
better
data,
we're
not
where
we
want
to
be,
but
a
lot
a
lot
better
data
and
a
lot
more
positive
results
and,
and
one
thing
that
I
get
asked
a
lot
about,
is
hey
chief:
do
you
guys
have
quotas?
E
The
answer
is
no
and
in
fact
I'll
say
very
emphatically
what
I've
said
to
our
Command
to
our
troops
to
our
communities.
If
an
officer
writes
a
thousand
tickets
and
doesn't
have
any
impact
on
those
things,
I
just
mentioned:
saving
lives
mitigating
these
collisions,
helping
with
quality
of
life
issues
in
the
community,
then
we've
failed.
Some
officers
might
write
one
ticket
or
no
tickets,
but
do
more
with
education
and
visibility
and
other
things,
and
really
have
an
impact
and
and
do
accomplish
our
mission
without
writing
any
tickets.
E
So
I
can
tell
you
we're
not
connected
to
revenues,
we're
not
connected
to
quotas
and-
and
we
do
what
we
do
if
we're
doing
it
right
in
the
areas
where
we
need
to
be
doing
it
and
doing
it
effectively,
and
so
the
race
bias
audit
has
helped
us
identify
areas
and
that
we
need
to
look
at
within
our
organization,
things
like
race
and
equity
and
bias,
and
all
those
things
and
I'll
tell
you.
E
The
purpose
of
traffic
stops
whether
it's
criminal
things
that
are
occurring
violence
in
our
communities,
whether
it's
traffic,
what
whatever
it
is,
is
to
do
it
right
to
make
sure
that
we're
consistent
with
constitutional
principles
in
our
efforts
to
solve
problems,
to
treat
people
with
dignity
and
respect
and
increase
safety.
While
if
we
do
it
right,
increasing
our
relationships,
enhancing
our
relationships
and
increasing
public
Trust
and
I
was
asked
to
just
kind
of
touch
on,
because
it's
so
timely.
E
The
Memphis
event
that
occurred
where
Tyree
Nichols
was
murdered
and
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
read
a
statement
that
I
think
you
all
just
at
least
everybody
on
our
Council.
E
Our
advisory
Council
just
got
a
copy
of
this
in
the
email,
but
it's
an
organization
that
I'm
a
part
of
and
I
co-authored
this
as
the
executive
director
of
this
organizational,
and
we
said
the
FBI
and
national
executive
Institute
Associates,
which
is
the
organization
that
I'm
the
executive
director
of
and
it's
membership
categorically
condemn
a
shameful
and
unacceptable
as
unacceptable
and
shameful
the
beating
of
Mr
Tyree
Nichols
by
five
members
of
the
Memphis
Police
Department
on
7th
of
January
2023.
We
now
know
there's
more
people
that
are
involved.
In
that
event.
E
We
view
this
conduct
not
as
expression
of
law
enforcement,
but
as
a
criminal
act
that
resulted
in
the
death
of
Mr
Nichols.
We
see
no
excuse
rationalization
for
this
conduct.
The
behavior
of
these
officers
violates
everything
that
is
good
and
decent,
which
law
enforcement
in
America
stands
for
and
must
represent.
Law
enforcement
leaders
in
every
state,
county
and
municipality,
and
this
went
around
Nationwide
from
our
organization
must
lead
their
agencies
with
strong
ethical
principles
applying
to
all
their
employees.
E
But
people
ask
me
what
happened
and
I'll
tell
you
in
my
entire
career
of
nearly
35
years,
I've
never
seen
anything
so
horrific
and
and
I
know.
There's
more
investigation
that
needs
to
occur.
I
made
a
statement
even
before
the
video
was
released
because
I
had
heard
enough
about
it,
even
without
seeing
the
video
to
condemn
the
actions
of
those
officers
and
what
happened
and
and
and
the
results
of
their
criminal
actions.
E
We've
had
discussions
with
our
Command
I
did
interviews
with
the
media
again
even
before
the
video
was
released
and
since
then
have
made
a
statement
and
done
a
a
video
for
our
troops
and
and
I'll
just
tell
you
that
was
Despicable.
What
happened?
E
That's,
and
and
I'll
tell
you
any
agency
that
is
policing
in
this
era
needs
to
focus
on
doing
things
right
and
all
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do,
and
that's
probably
a
good
segue
for
Jason
and
I'll
be
available
for
questions
at
the
end
as
well,
but
Emily.
Thank
you.
So
much
and
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
to
open
up.
D
Thank
you
so
much
chief
for
getting
us
started
tonight
and
for
your
remarks.
I
want
to
turn
it
over
briefly
back
to
Jill.
You
brought
up
some
data
points.
E
D
Jill
is
going
to
talk
to
us
about
the
dashboard.
F
Yes,
just
briefly
everyone,
you
know
one.
Second,
if
you
don't.
A
Mind
everybody's
participating
if
you've
got
questions,
we're
happy
to
answer
the
questions
at
the
end
of
the
session.
If
you
would
on
your
Zoom
session,
you
should
have
a
button
for
Q
a
if
you
type
your
questions
in
there
at
the
end
Emily's
going
to
go
over
those
and
address
us
to
the
appropriate
panelists.
So
please
put
your
questions
in
there
and
we'll
get
to
those.
Thank
you.
F
Okay,
just
very
briefly,
because
I
know
we
want
to
get
into
the
content
of
the
presentation.
The
the
racial
bias
audit
was
brought
up
both
by
Chief,
Reynolds
and
council
member
Broome,
and
we
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
you
actually
is
a
member
of
the
public
can
go
on
and
see
the
progress
that
was
made
towards
the
racial
bias
audit
in
2019
and
outside
evaluator
came
in
and
reviewed
the
department
provided,
72
total
recommendations.
F
One
of
the
areas
of
focus
was
on
traffic
that
we're
now
calling
motor
vehicle
stops,
and
so
we
have
a
website
at
the
very
bottom
of
that
slide.
That
gives
you
the
location
to
go
and
find
that
information
online
for
yourself
and
you
can
track
and
see
what
the
department
is
doing,
and
so
at
this
point
let
me
turn
it
over
to
our
main
presenter.
This
evening,
Captain
Jason
Bruder.
G
G
Anticipated
topic
of
Motor
Vehicle
stops.
So,
as
you
just
heard,
motor
vehicle
stops
were
part
of
the
audit.
I'll
refer
to
that
throughout
this
presentation
today,
and
the
first
thing
I
want
to
cover
before
I
even
get
to
the
definition
of
Motor
Vehicle
stops
is
why
am
I
now
calling
them
motor
vehicle
stops
instead
of
traffic
stops?
G
This
is
we've
got
a
policy.
That's
under
review.
I
believe
CPAC
actually
has
it
for
the
final
review,
but
some
of
the
things
in
in
there
are
going
to
talk
about
motor
vehicle
stops
and
we'll
hand
on
those
as
we
go
through
the
presentation.
But
one
of
the
big
things
was
that,
as
we
were
having
these
discussions
in
the
community
and
through
the
audit
and
and
over
the
last
few
years,
we
realize
that
there's
a
there's,
a
preconceived
notion:
When,
you
mention
traffic.
G
When
you
say
traffic,
stop
people
immediately
think
two
things
that
we've
learned
one:
they
they
think
about
speeding.
They
think
about
DUI.
They
think
about
traffic,
that
they
sit
in
every
day.
They
think
about
the
Pains
of
that
they
think
about
traffic
collisions
and
they
think
every
stop
every
motor
vehicle
stop
has
to
do
with
that.
The
other
thing
we
learned
pretty
quickly
is
that
they
they
immediately
tie
that
to
a
Traffic
Unit.
G
So
if,
if
a
department
like
we
do,
has
a
Traffic
Unit,
the
Assumption
becomes
well,
the
traffic
stops
are
done
by
the
Traffic
Unit.
What
are
these
other
officers
doing
and
what
is
their
purpose
when
they
stop
a
vehicle?
So,
through
our
discussions,
we've
decided
to
shift
to
motor
vehicle
stops,
hoping
that's
provides
more
clarity
and
better
explanation
and
at
least
opens
the
door
to
a
little
more
education
for
us.
G
We've
now
defined
in
policy
a
motor
vehicle
stop,
and
it
requires
one
of
two
things
to
be
a
legal
traffic.
Stop
that
either
needs
probable
calls
or
the
Reasonable
Suspicion
of
another
crime,
and
the
officer
should
be
able
to
articulate
that
before
pulling
the
stock
and
that's
what
the
Constitutional
standard
is
both
for
the
United
States
Constitution
Fourth
Amendment
and
the
South
Carolina
Constitution.
So
our
policy
is
going
to
indicate
that,
and
it's
going
to
Define
that
as
being
a
motor
vehicle
stop.
So
that's
what
a
motor
vehicle
stop
is
now.
G
Why
do
we
need
to
have
those
as
a
tool
for
law
enforcement
as
police,
we're
tasked
with
a
new
with
so
many
different
things
out
there?
Most
people
wouldn't
believe
it.
One
of
my
first
calls
was
to
go
fix,
somebody's
cable.
Yes,
those
are
all
the
different
things
we
needed
to
do
out
there
as
police,
but
everybody
immediately
thinks
of
the
things
that
I
just
mentioned
about
traffic
safety,
related
roadway
safety,
type,
stuff,
speeding,
Running,
Red,
Lights,
running,
stop
signs
changing
lanes,
all
those
types
of
things
and
people
immediately.
G
G
We
may
have
information
that
there
was
a
robbery
Series
going
on
and
we
need
to
be
aware
of
this
and
we
also
get
calls
from
citizens
like
hey.
I
just
saw
somebody
do
this
crime.
We
think
you
should
go,
stop
them
and
we
respond
to
that
and
go
stop
those.
So
all
those
things
fall
underneath
motor
vehicle
stops.
So
it's
not
just
a
single
tool
that
we
can
point
to
and
say:
okay,
this
tool
is
used
to
fix
this
particular
problem.
This
is
a
tool
that
can
fix
numerous
problems
that
our
community
has.
G
One
thing
that,
in
our
policy
that
I
want
to
be
very
clear
about
is
that
in
our
policy
currently
and
in
the
new
version
officers
are
not
allowed
to,
they
cannot
stop
people
just
based
on
race
or
ethnicity.
Again,
I
went
over.
The
definition
includes
they
must
have
Reasonable
Suspicion
of
a
crime
about
to
or
or
being
committed
or
probable
cause,
which
would
be
breaking
into
law.
G
So
that's
what
our
policy
is,
that
defines
the
what
it
is
and
how
we're
going
to
use
it
and
I'm
gonna
get
into
a
little
bit
about
how
we
actually
go
about
that
and
we'll
talk
about
the
officer's
side.
First,
what
we
do
as
an
officer
is
we
pull
over
a
car,
then
I'm
going
to
talk
about
what
some
things
to
do
that
may
help
you
if
you
ever
get
pulled
over,
so
we
have
several
things
in
policy
before
the
things
on
the
screen
even
come
into
play.
G
The
first
thing
we
expect
and
require
of
our
officers
is
to
turn
on
their
body
One
camera.
So
before
the
blue
lights
even
come
on
before
they
even
put
a
stop
out
on
the
radio,
we
expect
our
officers
to
turn
on
their
body,
One
camera
and
start
recording.
That
way.
Whatever
happens
in
that
next
stop
is
recorded.
G
We
would
prefer
they
give
a
quick
narrative
about
what's
going
on,
but
sometimes
there's
not
time
for
all
that
they
turn
on
their
body,
One
camera
and
the
next
thing
they
do
is
they
they
call
in
to
stop
the
dispatch.
So
they
call
in
the
stop.
They
give
the
location
they
give
all
the
information
dispatch.
For
so
that
everybody
knows
that.
That
officer
is
now
on
a
stop.
G
Then,
as
they
approach
the
car,
they
should
identify
themselves.
We
don't
ask
questions,
we
don't
ask
you
like
do
you
know
why
we
were
stopping
you
or
anything
like
that?
We
identify
ourselves
and
we
tell
you
why
we're
stopping
you.
That's
our
policy,
that's
what
we
expect
of
our
officers.
We
don't
want
to
get
into
a
game
with
people
going.
G
Oh
do
you
know
why
I
stopped
you
and
then
you
playing
a
guessing
game
as
to
oh
well,
was
I
speeding
or
did
I
run
the
red
light,
or
maybe
you
just
did
all
those
things,
but
we
want
them.
We
want
them
to
know.
We
want
the
people
to
know
why
we're
stopping
them.
We're
going
to
be
upfront
with
that
and
that's
expected
from
there.
G
So
we,
if
there's
reasons
to
extend
the
stop,
we'll
explain
those
to
you
and
go
from
there,
but
usually
it's
a
pretty
quick
stop
and
we
go
from
there.
It'll
usually
end
with
a
ticket
or
a
warning
just
depending
on
what
happened,
and
at
that
time
the
officer
is
going
to
give
you
an
explanation.
It
should
include
whether
or
not
it's
a
ticket
or
a
warning
if
it
is
a
ticket,
a
court
date
where
the
court
is
answer.
G
Those
types
of
questions
for
you
and
get
to
that
state
law
in
South
Carolina
does
require
that
if
you're
not
arrested
that
you
receive
a
ticket
or
a
warning
from
a
stop.
So
that's
why
you
may
wonder
why.
Why
is
he
if
he's
going
to
warming?
Why
can't
he
just
give
me
a
verbal
warning
and
let
me
go
well
that's
why
the
state
law
requires
us
to
capture
that
and
give
you
some
type
of
either
warning
or
citation.
G
G
So
in
that
exchange,
we'll
tell
explain
everything
to
the
driver
and
usually
we'll
try
to
be
as
helpful
as
we
can
a
lot
of
times.
People
want
to
argue
that
they
didn't
run
the
red
light
or
they
weren't,
speeding
or
or
anything
like
that.
G
We
tell
our
officers
not
to
engage
in
a
back
and
forth
discussion
just
because
we've
written
somebody,
a
ticket
doesn't
mean
they've
been
found
guilty.
That's
what
Court's
for
that's
what
the
judge
can
decide.
Everybody
has
the
right
to
take
their
case
to
a
court
and
discuss
that
and
we
encourage
our
officers
not
to
get
into
a
back
and
forth.
G
If
that's
the
way
that
the
discussion
is
going
just
you
know,
ask
them
to
drive
safely
and
and
disengage
from
the
contact
there,
but
all
those
things
on
the
screen
they
every
officer
should
walk
up.
They
should
immediately
identify
themselves
I'm
captain
Bruder
with
the
Charleston
Police
Department
I
stopped
you
today
for
running
the
red
light
right
back
there
and
do
you
have
your
license:
registration
and
insurance
and
then
I'm
likely
going
to
go
back,
make
sure
everything's,
valid
everything's
good
to
go.
G
I'll
write
the
ticket
or
the
warning,
depending
on
how
the
stop
went
and
I'll
come
back
and
explain
it
to
you
and
then
walk
back
to
my
car
and
turn
my
body
camera
off
at
that
point.
So
again,
those
are
things
you
can
expect
from
an
officer
and
what
we
see
from
our
side
and
every
one
of
our
traffic
stops
caught
myself
motor
vehicle
stops.
This
is
new
for
me
as
well.
Every
one
of
our
motor
vehicle
stops
is
recorded
on
body
One
camera
by
policy.
G
So
if
we,
if
we
do
have
one
that
wasn't,
we
addressed
that
and
follow
up
with
that.
So
now,
if
you're
the
driver,
what
happens?
Well,
the
first
thing
to
get
the
blue
lights
come
on.
Everybody
gets
nervous.
What
you're
supposed
to
do
is
pull
to
the
right
and
slow
down
and
I
should
preface
this
I'm
going
to
give
you
what
I
recommend
you
to
do.
There's
some
legal
parameters
about
what's
required
and
and
and
a
lot
of
those
things
are
so
situational
dependent
that
it
would
just
bog
down
the
conversation
here.
G
Quite
frankly,
there
there's
what's
legally
required,
but
the
situation
largely
isn't
known
by
the
driver
at
that
time.
So
I'm
going
to
give
you
some
best
best
tips
that
help
the
officer
feel
like
it's
a
safe
situation
and
allow
you
to
feel
safe
as
well.
So,
like
I,
said
pulling
to
the
right.
G
A
lot
of
people
like
to
pull
in
the
middle
of
the
road
over
to
the
median
or
pull
to
the
left,
where
there's
cars
still
flying
around
you
and
all
kinds
of
stuff
generally,
whether
even
if
you're
not
being
pulled
over
you're
supposed
to
pull
to
the
right
and
slow
down.
So
if
you
pull
to
the
right
and
slow
down
the
car
keeps
going,
then
they
weren't
pulling
you
over.
G
They
were
trying
to
go
to
a
caller
or
pull
somebody
else
over,
but
pull
to
the
right
and
slow
down
and
that
is
going
to
allow.
Then
it
allows
the
officer
to
see
that
you've
acknowledged
being
pulled
over
you've,
acknowledged
the
blue
lights.
You've
seen
that
is
there
and
then
start
looking
for
a
place
to
pull
over
look
for
a
safe
space.
The
officer
wants
to
pull
you
stop
in
a
safe
place,
just
as
much
as
you
want
to
stop
in
a
safe
place.
G
So
if
you're
like
this
is
a
crazy,
four-lane,
Highway
and
there's
nowhere,
there's
no
shoulder
just
just
acknowledge
you
pull
down
you
slow
down
to
the
right.
If
it
looks
like
it's
going
to
be
a
minute,
call
9-1-1
and
say
hey,
it
looks
like
I'm
being
pulled
over
I'm
trying
to
stop
there's
just
nowhere
to
stop
that.
Dispatcher
is
going
to
relay
back
to
the
officer
they're,
not
going
to
think
you're
trying
to
flee
or
anything
like
that.
G
You'll
find
a
safe
space,
whether
that's
in
the
parking
lot
or
the
shoulder
of
the
road
and
and
pull
over
and
then
once
you're
on
the
side
of
the
road
make
sure
you're
safely
off
the
road.
So
you
don't
worry
about
getting
hit
by
another
car,
as
cars
are
driving
by
at
that
point,
I
really
don't
recommend
reaching
all
over
the
vehicle
officers.
Don't
know
what
you're
reaching
for
you
might
be
going
to
get
your
insurance.
G
You
might
be
going
to
get
your
registration,
but
all
officers
see
your
people's
hands
flying
all
over
the
place.
You
could
be
reaching
for
a
gun
you
could
be
reaching
for
other
things.
It
might
be
perfectly
innocent
that
you
dropped
your
phone
and
you're
trying
to
pick
it
up
because
it
has
your
insurance
card
once
the
officer
is
behind
you
once
you've
pulled
over
I
would
make
sure
you
just
kind
of
stop
the
movement
until
they
walk
up
to
your
car.
G
That'll
just
ease
our
concerns
a
little
bit
and
it
won't
have
you
panicking
trying
to
figure
out
where
we
are
and
we
catch
you
by
surprise
or
something
like
that,
if
you
can,
if
the
weather's
not
too
bad
and
I'm
raining,
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
roll
down
the
windows
again,
it
just
tells
us
that
you're
acknowledging
that
we're
there
and
that
you're
trying
to
consider
our
safety
there's
no
requirement
to
roll
windows
down.
But
again,
that's
something!
That's
going
to
help
us
feel
safer
in
this
stop.
G
G
Again,
if
you
place
your
hands
on
the
steering
wheel,
that
shows
us
that
you,
you
are
a
concerned
for
our
safety
as
much
as
there's
you're,
following
our
our
directions
at
that
point
and
then,
as
the
officer
gets
up
there,
they
see
all
these
things.
If
you
roll
down
your
windows,
you
turned
on
your
interior
light
they're
likely
going
to
know
and
understand
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
safer
than
normal
motor
vehicle.
Stop.
The
officer
will
go
through
asking
you
for
your
license
and
registration.
Some
officers
are
really
good
like
hey.
B
G
In
your
glove
box,
they'll
ask
you
these
questions
so
that
you
don't
just
start
jumping
all
over
the
car
and-
and
you
may
say
well,
it
is
in
my
glove
box
and
I.
Have
a
firearm
in
there
tell
the
officer
that
they
would
prefer
for
you
to
tell
them
that,
then
they
need
to
pull
it
out
when
you,
when
you
get
your
insurance
and
there's
a
gun
sitting
there.
It's
legal
to
have
guns
in
your
in
your
center
console
and
in
your
glove
box
again.
G
Just
just
tell
the
officer
that
my
registration
is
in
the
glove
box.
I'll
be
glad
to
get
it
for
you,
but
my
firearm
is
in
there
officers
had
that
all
the
time.
It's
not
an
issue.
We
may
say:
okay,
we'll
just
leave
it
there.
I
can
run
your
registration
through
DNB
and
then
we'll
go
from
there,
but
the
officer
is
going
to
provide
the
direction
at
that
point
again.
What
you
should
expect
from
a
CPU
CPD
officer
when
we
walk
up
to
the
car.
G
Is
that
we're
going
to
explain
to
you
who
we
are,
what
jurisdiction
we're
with
with
the
Charleston
Police
Department,
and
why
we
stopped
you
a
question.
I
always
get
a
lot
is,
if
you
feel
like
you,
weren't
stopped
for
the
right
reasons
or
you
you
feel
like
you
know
what
the
officer
allege
didn't
happen.
Well,
the
allegation
needs
to
be
taken
up
in
court,
but
if
you
feel
like
there
was
some
rudeness
or
a
complaint
issue,
I
always
recommend.
Following
up
with
internal
affairs,
we
we
always
want
to
know.
We
want.
D
G
Know
when
we're
doing
well-
and
we
want
to
know
where
we're
doing
bad,
but
the
important
stuff
is-
is
that
if
somebody
has
an
issue,
we
can
set
up
and
have
a
discussion
with
that.
It
may
be
just
a
discussion
with
the
officer
down
the
road,
but
those
Internal
Affairs
is
really
the
place
to
go
and
address
those
not
on
the
side
of
the
road,
not
getting
in
an
argument
with
the
officer
there.
G
What
we
saw
in
our
audit
is
that
there's
so
many
different
systems
that
we
work
with
in
the
police
department
that
none
and
none
of
them
connect
that
we
we
didn't
really
have
a
way
to
to
look
at
our
motor
vehicle.
Stop
data
with
any
kind
of
reliability.
We
could.
We
could
pull
from
different
systems.
We
could
look
at
CAD,
which
is
our
dispatch
system.
We
could
look
at
our
tickets,
we
can
look
at
our
warnings.
G
We
can
look
at
all
those
things,
but
none
of
them
integrated
together
to
allow
us
to
have
a
good
picture
of
what
was
that
actually
happening.
So
in
the
report
came
out,
we
spent
night
in
2019
looking
at
different
ways
to
how
to
how
can
we
make
this
data
that
we
have
work?
We
look
at
2020
that
to
to
build
some
new
systems
that
would
work,
and
we
finally
realized
that
it
wasn't
going
to
be
perfect
and
in
2021
we
started
using
Field
contact
cards.
Now,
that's
a
module
in
our
record
management
system.
G
I'll
call
them
fcc's
for
the
rest
of
this.
This
presentation,
but
we
implemented
in
2021
that
all
motor
vehicle
stops
and
all
other
self-initiated
stops
by
the
officer
officer
initiated
stops,
would
be
captured
by
the
field
by
an
FCC.
We
didn't
really
want
to
do
this,
which
is
why
we
tried
to
find
some
other
options,
because
it
duplicated
all
the
work
for
the
officers
for
every
stop.
Officers
still
have
to
write
a
ticket.
They
still
have
to
write
a
warning.
They
still
have
to
do
the
dispatch
notes.
G
To
this,
because
I
really
didn't
want
to
duplicate
work
for
the
officers,
but
in
2021
we
realized
we
had
to
do
something.
So
we
launched
this
as
a
pilot.
We
got
there
and
in
2022
we
we
saw
that
this
is
working.
We
worked
through
in
2021
some
of
the
different
data
collection
sides
of
it
some
of
the
reporting
some
of
the
compliance.
We
were
like
a
70
compliance
and
by
2022
when
we
started
that
year
we
were
closer
to
like
an
85
to
90,
which
was
our
goal.
G
We
knew
we
weren't
going
to
be
a
hundred
percent
doing
it
this
way.
So
we
we
started
looking
at
and
realizing
that
20
the
fccs
were
going
to
give
us
a
reliable
picture
of
what's
going
on
out
there.
During
that
time,
we
had
over
2,
300
or
23
000
motor
vehicle
stops
over
the
two
years,
and
now
we've
been
in
a
position
to
start
looking
at
this
data
and
analyzing
it
to
see
what
is
actually
happening.
G
So
this
is
some
of
this.
The
overall
data
and
there's
23
000
stops
and
the
slides
I'm
going
to
show
they're
Citywide
and
that's
every
officer
that
works
for
this
Charleston
Police
Department
and
then
there's
the
Traffic
Unit.
The
Traffic
Unit
is
included
in
the
Citywide
number,
but
almost
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
Traffic
Unit
A
little
bit
more
in
just
a
few
minutes
and
that's
going
to
be
important
to
have
them
separated
out,
which
is
why
it's
done
in
the
presentation
in
the
slides
here.
G
So
as
you
can
see,
the
Traffic
Unit
likes
to
write
tickets
and
and
very
little
warnings.
That's
the
Green
in
the
bottom
and
the
Citywide
is
more
on
the
warning
side.
So
again
we
talked
about
different
objectives:
different
expectations,
different
goals
by
different
units
in
the
department.
So
this
is
where
it
kind
of
becomes
tricky.
G
G
This
this
slide
shows
age.
You
can
see
that
it's
consistent
throughout
the
department.
It
was
consistent
over
both
years
of
who
we're
stopping
I.
Think
generally,
we
know
who
we
expect
our
drivers
to
be
in
the
age
group,
and
this
is
really
this.
This
is
an
instance
of
where
it
is
very
similar
to
the
correlation
in
the
population,
so
flipping
back
to
the
race
slide
again.
The
third
graph
over
here
is
by
gender
and
it's
roughly
60
on
the
male
side,
and
there
was
there
was
nothing
really
outstanding
or
back
and
forth
with
that.
G
But
as
we
as
we
talk
through
this
and
we
pull
the
race
slide
back
up
again,
I'm
gonna
dig
down
a
bit
on
the
Traffic
Unit.
We,
the
Traffic
Unit
in
2021,
realized
they
had
a
pretty
big
problem
and
that
was
alcohol,
related
fatalities.
G
We've
been
working
on
that
as
an
apartment
with
some
training,
and
we
really
wanted
to
Pivot
towards
something
in
a
new
way
and
the
Traffic
Unit
with
their-
and
these
are
the
this
graph
shows
all
of
the
collisions
at
100
and
the
the
total
number
of
collisions
is
the
number
that's
in
in
the
red
bar
at
the
bottom.
The
Red
Bar
shows
the
percentage
of
alcohol-related
collisions,
causing
fatal
accident
or
causing
death.
So,
as
you
can
see,
we
has
a
pretty
extensive.
G
It
was
that
our
driving
factor
in
most
years
of
fatal
collisions
and
in
2021
the
traffic
Lieutenant
Lieutenant
krasowski,
came
to
me
and
said
I
think
we
got
to
do
something
here.
We
got
to
do
something
different
because
we're
not
having
an
impact
on
reducing
these
alcohol
related
conditions.
They
they
did
that
they
put
in
a
plan.
It
involved
moving
more
officers
to
to
when
the
collisions
were
happening,
which
was
between
8
p.m
and
4
A.M.
They
directed
them
to
where
collisions
were
happening,
and
these
alcohols
were
happening.
G
They
he
was
giving
weekly
direction
to
officers
about
where
things
were
happening
and
what
was
needing
to
be
addressed,
and
he
was
following
it
up
now
that
we
have
the
data
we
can
follow
up
on
it
more.
G
This
was
an
example
of
his
weekly
report,
where
he
would
show
all
the
map
fccs
where
they
were,
where
they
directed
them
to
and
usually
when
you
see
these
one
offset
was
neighborhood
complaints
and
that
was
day
shift
officers.
So
he
was,
he
was
using
this.
We
were
being
very
data
driven,
but
we
were
doing
this
with
about
10
officers
in
just
the
Traffic
Unit,
with
a
very
clear
purpose
of
reducing
alcohol-related
fatalities,
and
they
were
very
successful.
There
is
still
a
little
bit
of
red
down
here.
G
That
was
two
alcohol-related
collisions
last
year,
but
those
were
actually
around
8,
A.M
and
11
A.M,
so
they
were
well
outside
of
when
he
was
intended
and
outside
of
his
objective.
So
in
effect
he
he
reduced
this
16
right
here
in
2021
to
zero
in
2022.,
so
very
effective
and
very
manageable,
trying
to
stay
on
time,
Paul
I'm
with
you.
G
This
was
just
another
graph
showing
some
of
the
impairment
and
how
that
focused
effort.
Not
only
did
it
produce
more
DUI
arrests,
but
it
also
created
this
kind
of
sense
of
you're
having
you're
accomplishing
something,
so
other
officers
in
the
department
started
contributing
as
well,
so
it
had
a
bleed
over
effect
of
of
having
more
DUI
arrests,
and
then
we
saw
our
total
fatalities
went
down
slightly,
but
the
number
that
were
related
to
impairment
went
down
significantly,
especially
from
the
previous
year.
G
So
again,
I
circled
back
to
this,
the
Traffic
Unit.
You
look
at
just
their
section
as
30
percent.
So
a
lot
of
times
we
talk
about
disparities
and
disproportionalities,
and
the
proper
Benchmark
for
the
Traffic
Unit
focused
on
collisions
would
be
people
that
are
driving
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
So
if
we
compared
it
to
the
population
of
the
city
of
Charleston,
that
wouldn't
be
exactly
accurate
because
we
have
several
million
visitors
to
the
city.
Every
year
we
have
people
that
commute
to
the
city.
G
A
couple
hundred
thousand
people
every
day
are
driving
into
and
out
of
the
city.
So
how
do
we
capture?
Who
is
driving
on
our
roads
and
there's
some
studies
that
that
support
this
and
we
use?
We
call
it
not
at
fault
Collision
data,
so
the
if,
in
a
two-car
Collision,
the
not
at
fault
person
is
arguably
randomly
in
a
collision,
so
that
person
provides
us
a
very
clear
snapshot
at
random
of
who's
driving
our
on
our
roads
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
G
For
the
last
several
years
we've
been
watching
this,
it
ranges
between
28
and
30
percent.
So
if
that
is
our
Benchmark
as
to
who
the
Traffic
Unit
should
be
stopping,
it
should
be
28
to
30
percent
black
males
or
black
drivers,
and
that
is
very
much
in
line
with
the
Traffic
Unit.
That's
what
they've
been
doing,
that's
what
they
did
for
both
years.
It
was
roughly
30
percent,
so
they
are
having
a
successful
outcome.
G
Their
outputs
are
not
creating
what
I
call
side
effects
of
having
disproportionate
stops
to
who
we
would
expect
them
to
be
stopping,
and
the
biggest
thing
is,
is
it's
working?
It
worked.
It
worked
for
the
Traffic
Unit
and
we're
going
to
continue
it
in
this
year.
They
may
have
to
tweak
a
little
bit
of
the
data.
I
mean
a
tweak
a
little
bit
of
their
response
to
make
sure
they
stay
on
track
with
what
the
data
is
showing.
G
G
We
first
want
to
make
sure
that
it
works,
and
then
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
monitoring
for
anything
that
we
may
be
doing
that's
creating
harm
in
the
community
and
I
feel
like
we
have
a
lot
of
questions
pending
so
I'm,
going
to
stop
there
and
see
what
we
got
to
go
and
I'll
be
glad
to
Circle
back
around.
If
we
need
to.
D
Thank
you
so
much
I'm
going
to
go
through
some
of
these
questions
that
we've
had
submitted
a
couple
of
the
first
ones,
and
this
may
because
does
the
CPD
have
an
Elite
Force
like
the
Scorpion
unit
in
Memphis,
and
under
what
circumstances
do
they
interact
with
citizens
or
Motor
Vehicles.
G
So
we
don't
have
I,
would
hate
I'm,
hesitant
to
even
say
that
it's
called
an
elite
unit
like
the
Scorpion
unit.
We
have
units
that
are
that
are
specifically
dedicated
to
intelligence-based
policing.
When
we
have
officers
that
are
out
doing
specific
objectives,
we
don't
have
anything
that
we
call
a
scorpion
unit
or
anything
similar
to
that
again,
we
do
have
a
unit.
E
Yeah
I
would
just
add
emphatically
no
with
what
Jason
just
said
with
a
little
bit
of
narrative
the
little
bit
we
know
about
the
Scorpion
unit.
We
don't
have
anything
even
remotely
that
resembles
that.
D
I'm
gonna
go.
Another
question
we
had
is:
how
is
the
decision
made
by
officers
on
if
it's
a
warning
or
a
citation.
G
Yeah
great
question
a
lot
of
times.
This
just
depends
on
what
the
purpose
of
the
stop
is.
Why
were
they
doing
the
stuff?
In
the
first
place,
a
lot
of
times
officers
are
stopping
people
for
headlights
being
out.
Obviously
they
just
want
to
make
sure
people
know,
and
is
it
really
helped
to
write
a
ticket
to
somebody
for
that
or
they
may
just
decide
a
morning.
So
a
lot
of
it's
situational,
there's,
there's
no
clear
line
that
says
always
a
ticket.
Never
a
ticket.
G
Dui
is
the
one
thing
that
we
don't
allow
by
policy
for
the
officer
to
have
discretion.
If
somebody's
DUI
they're
driving
Under
the
Influence
they're
likely
going
to
get
a
ticket
and
go
to
jail,
but
the
ticket
or
warning
thing.
Ultimately,
we
want
to
do
what
works.
That's
going
to
be
kind
of
the
challenge
for
the
Traffic
Unit.
You
saw
that
they
write
a
bunch
of
tickets.
Could
they
have
the
same
outcome
and
write
warnings?
Could
they
write
50
50
and
still
have
an
effect?
G
G
I'm
not
sure
again,
we've
been
collecting
this
data.
The
data
is
reliable
now
and
that's
what
we're
starting
to
dig
into
those
are
the
discussions
we're
having
those
are
the
policy
again
I
mentioned
general
order,
29
that
that's
in
the
final
review,
that's
going
to
be
pushed
out
and
being
more
objective.
Driven
should
allow
us
to
see
where
the
disproportionalities
May
lie
or
or
what's
happening.
It
all
goes
back
to
what
was
the
purpose
of
officers
conducting
the
stops
and
again
the
Traffic
Unit
had
a
very
specific
example.
G
If
I
were
to
say
why
does
all
of
West
Ashley
what
what
is
the?
What
was
the
problem
for
all
of
West
Ashley,
every
Community,
every
neighborhood,
maybe
even
every
block,
may
have
a
different
issue
that
the
officers
are
trying
to
address
so
we're
trying
to
capture
that
we've
got
kind
of
the
outputs
that
are
going
along.
The
way
we're
trying
to
capture
that
what
are
the
officers
doing?
What
are
the
expectations?
What
are
the
objectives
that
they're
lieutenants
and
their
sergeants
have
for
them,
and
then
are
we
being
effective
in
that.
D
Kind
of
piggybacking
on
that,
were
you
saying
that
the
impaired
drivers
were
also
a
higher
percentage
of
black
males,
no
okay
and
then
wire
traffic
citations?
Do
you
think,
increasing
again
after
years
of
decrease.
G
So
again,
we
had
a
pretty
intentional
Focus
to
reduce
alcohol
related
fatalities.
I
think
that
that
had
something
to
do
with
it
and
comparing
things
to
20
and
20
21,
2020
and
2021
is
always
going
to
have
an
asterisk.
Next
to
it.
In
2021,
a
lot
of
people
still
want
traveling,
a
lot
of
things:
weren't,
opening
or
weren't
opening,
weren't,
open
and,
and
so.
G
Of
effect
there,
this
is
the
first
time
we've
actually
been
able
to
look
at
it.
This
way
we
are
looking
at
just
our
FCC
data.
So
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
are
being
asked
by
the
community
are
the
same
questions
we're
asking
of
our
department.
We
haven't
had
what
two
years
to
look
at
this.
That
seems
like
a
long
time,
but
we
haven't
had
these
systems
in
place
to
look
at
and
now
we
do-
and
these
are
all
great
questions
and
things
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
look
at
and
continue
to
figure
out.
G
That's
like
a
softball
for
me:
I'm,
a
data
guy
y'all
can
tell
I
love
this
stuff.
Weird
I
want
to
First
ensure
that
we
are
being
as
effective
as
possible.
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
asking
officers
to
go
out
there
and
stop
people
that
it's
having
the
effect
that
we
need
it
to
I,
don't
want
to
do
any
harm
in
the
community.
I
don't
want
to
stop
a
thousand
people
to
to
to
not
solve
a
problem.
G
If
we
have
to
stop
four
people
and
it
solves
the
problem,
then
we
stop
four
people
and
we,
then
it
solves
the
problem.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
using
this
data
in
a
way
that's
going
to
make
sure
we're
effective
first
that
we're
contributing
to
our
communities
and
solving
their
problems
and
then
we'll
start
to
focus
on
how
do
we
mitigate
any
negative
outcomes
that
may
happen?
How?
What
are
the
side
effects
like
I
call
them.
D
G
Decision
to
make
officers
duplicate
their
work
so
that
we
can
answer
these
questions
is
the
most
significant
piece
so
far,
that's
going
to
allow
all
the
change
that
we
need
to
happen
down
the
road,
because
we
can
actually
look
at
data
and
measure
this
as
we're
moving
forward.
So
asking
our
officer
to
do
that.
Putting
that
into
policy
that
they're
going
to
have
to
duplicate
their
work
was
it
was
it
a
significant
discussion
that
we
needed
to
make
sure
we
get
it
right?
G
If
we're
going
to
ask
officers
to
do
twice
as
much
work,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
it's
going
to
have
the
the
it's
going
to
be
worth
their
time.
We
believe
it
is,
we
believe
it
has
been
and
we
believe
it
will
continue
to
be
very
effective.
So
adding
that
piece
that
we're
going
to
require
officers
to
in
a
separate
system
keep
up
with
all
of
our
stops.
We
can
look
at
everything
at
one
time
and
not
have
to
hope
that
things
line
up
and
do
something
assumption,
analysis
and
all
kinds
of
other
stuff.
G
It
really
gets
really
gets
blurry.
That's
what
happened
in
our
audit,
because
we
had
to
start
making
assumptions
as
to
what
the
data
was
showing
us
having
that
piece
put
in
is
going
to
allow
all
the
future
change
and
all
the
future
data
collection
and
all
the
future
objective
driven
approaches
to
happen.
Without
that
piece,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
answer
the
questions.
D
Okay,
we
have
one
more:
what
are
the
protocols
for
checkpoints
and
what
is
the
expectation
of
drivers
under
the
assumption?
No
crime
has
been
committed.
G
Okay,
so
I'll
take
protocols
for
checkpoints,
we've
pretty
much
gone
to
a
policy
that,
unless
it's
for
public
safety
for
checkpoint
like
if
we
need
to
have
a
a
murder,
suspect
and
we
believe
they
went
down
three
different
roads
and
we
would
set
up
a
checkpoint
we've,
we've
kind
of
gone
away
from
doing
DUI
checkpoints
and
those
kind
of
things
I'm
not
saying
that
we
wouldn't
go
back
to
those
in
a
while,
but
generally
they're,
not
very
effective
on
the
second
part
of
that
was
expectation
of
drivers.
G
Under
the
assumption,
no
crime
has
been
committed,
I
would
say
the
officer's
presence
is
or
the
officer's
preference
would
be.
And
again
this
is
going
to
be
my
preference.
Not
the
legal
answer
is
If.
A
driver
may
not
know
that
the
same
vehicle
or
very
similar
vehicle
that
you're
driving
was
just
used
in
a
robbery
down
the
road
and
you're
pulled
over,
and
the
officer
thinks
you
might
be
involved
with
that
robbery.
G
It
may
take
them
only
a
minute
or
a
few
seconds
to
figure
out
you're,
not
that
person,
so
the
driver
knows
they
haven't
done
anything
wrong,
but
the
officer
doesn't
know
that.
So
it
may
take
a
few
minutes
to
do
that
and,
and
hopefully
the
officer,
that's
where
they're
explaining
why
you
were
stopped.
The
officer
is
going
to
come
back
and
explain
all
that
to
you,
but
you,
the
driver
likely
doesn't
have
all
of
the
information.
Just
like
the
exact
opposite
could
be.
The
reverse
could
be
true
for
the
officer.
G
The
officer
could
pull
you
over
for
something
very
minor
that
they
didn't
even
realize
that
you
just
rolled
through
a
stop
sign
or
something
like
that.
But
the
driver
knows
that
they
just
committed
murder
and
the
officer
doesn't
know
that,
so
they
walk
up
not
knowing
things
so
there's
a
bit
of
unknown
on
both
sides.
D
Okay,
what
has
the
CPD
uses
indicators
of
success
in
the
area
of
Motor
Vehicle
stops.
G
Well,
there's
a
bunch
of
them
and
that's
what
we're
going
to
start
we're
working
through
that
to
see
what
what
the
officers
have
been
doing,
what
we've
been
doing
and
how
we
can
tailor
that
to
make
sure
they're
effective.
Some
of
the
things
are
going
to
be
very
complaint.
Driven.
There's
people
speeding
down
my
road.
Well,
then
we're
going
to
go
over
there
and
write
speeding
tickets.
So
that's
some
of
the
objectives
that
are
going
to
vary
I.
G
Think
the
traffic
unit
itself
is
going
to
continue
to
focus
on
alcohol
related
fatalities,
because
that
we
saw
that
work
and
if
we
can
continue
to
allow
that
to
happen
and
add
in
more
education
and
Engineering,
we
could
have
a
significant
impact
on
saving
lives
in
that
manner.
As
for
the
other
things,
it's
really
going
to
be
driven
by
what
problems
are
occurring
in
communities
and
what
their
the
best
solution
for
that
motor
vehicle
stops
may
not
be
the
solution
for
the
problems
that
are
going
on
and
we
would
use
a
different
tool.
G
Sometimes
it's
just
getting
out
and
knowing
somebody,
but
so
there's
nothing
set,
but
we
are
moving
toward
being
more
objective
driven.
So
we
can
evaluate
that
and
see
our
successes.
D
I
had
one
just
are
y'all
looking.
This
is
for
me
my
question.
As
far
as
like
pedestrian
fatalities
go
for
Motor,
Vehicles
I
know
that
recently
happened
downtown.
G
Yeah
we
recently
had
one
of
those-
those
are
a
little
difficult.
I,
don't
have
the
the
stats
right
offhand,
but
you
know
pedestrian
fatalities
and
pedestrian
injuries.
Typically
aren't
the
driver
being
at
false
there's
a
different
type
of
enforcement.
There's
a
different
type
of
education
engineering
we're
no
longer
focused
on
drivers.
We're
talking
now
have
to
focus
on
people
that
are
walking
into
the
roads
or
or
may
not
or
may
not
know
the
appropriate
place
to
cross.
G
So
it's
it's
it's
a
much
different
Factor
than
looking
at
that,
but
that
if
the
Traffic
Unit
monitors
that
we
all
monitor
that
we
want
pedestrians
to
feel
safe
on
the
walking
on
the
roads
as
well
and
traveling,
especially
in
our
downtown,
which
is
much
more
urban
and
you
know
on
top
of
each
other.
So
we
do
monitor
that.
But
it's
not
going
to
be
it's
not
going
to
have
the
same
objectives
and
outcomes
as
as
something
like
alcohol
related
fatalities,
which
are
largely
with
vehicles
involved.
E
So
that's
a
great
question.
We
could
talk
probably
for
an
hour,
even
just
on
that
one
topic,
you
know
lighting
some
areas
are
really
dark.
E
The
narrowness
of
sidewalks,
the
lack
of
signage
and
and
alcohol
is
involved
in
some
of
those,
some
of
it's
involving
The
Pedestrian
or
the
bikelet
bicyclist,
the
lack
of
good
areas
for
bikes
to
to
commute
in
different
segments
of
the
city.
So
there's
a
lot
that
we
can
Canon
are
looking
at,
we
kind
of
have
a
committee
traffic
committee
and
we
have
different
partners
throughout
the
city
and
throughout
the
region.
Frankly,
that
Carta
and
and
Cog,
and
a
lot
of
other
groups
are
really
focused
on
on
that
as
an
issue.
A
Thanks
guys
well,
I
I
want
to
I
know:
we've
run
a
little
bit
over
our
time.
I
think
this
is
a
great
topic.
I
think
it's
also
led
us
to
have
probably
five
more
topics
for
these
sessions.
A
It's
just
incredible.
I
want
to
thank
all
my
fellow
CPAC
council
members
for
your
time
and
helping
put
this
together.
I
especially
want
to
thank
the
the
Charleston
Police
Department
I
think
it
really
speaks
a
lot
of
their
willingness
and
their
transparency
to
come
on
a
session
like
this
and-
and
you
know
not
only
give
us
some
insight
into
what
they
do,
but
to
be
open
to
the
questions.
A
One
of
the
comments
I
hear
all
the
time
directed
me
from
deputy
chief
Walker
is
we're
the
Charleston
Police
Department,
we're
not
concerned
with
what
other
departments
do
we
care
about
what
we
do,
and
so
you
know,
I've
seen
other
departments
they're
not
as
open
as
this
and
really
work
with
us,
and
you
know,
as
the
CPAC
being
tasked
with
helping
Bridge
the
communication
gaps,
whether
real
or
perceived
between
the
public
and
the
Charleston
Police
Department
sessions
like
these
are
really
beneficial
to
all
of
us.
A
Chief
I
want
to
thank
you
and
your
leadership
team.
You
know
it
starts
from
the
top
and
you
all
said
in
the
example.
Let
your
your
Patrol
officers
know
what's
expected
from
that.
You
know
if
you're,
open
and
transparent
with
us
they're
doing
the
same.
You
know
they
realize
the
expectation
is
the
same.
I
know
the
data
collection
is
a
work
in
progress.
A
As
we
pointed
out
at
the
beginning,
there
are
several
dashboards.
We
had
a
session
not
too
long
ago
on
a
dashboard
where
the
public
can
go
and
look
to
see
where
were
contact
cards
taken
where
we
arrest
made
all
the
different
things
we're
starting
to
to
really
have
robust
data,
that's
public
for
all
of
us
to
see,
as
well
as
there's
a
public
complaint
line
if
you've
been
pulled
over
on
a
motor
vehicle,
stop
and
you're
unhappy
with
what
happened.
There's
a
time
and
a
place,
and
you
can
certainly
register
with
internal
affairs.
A
You
can
go
online,
you
can
call
in
to
a
complaint
line
and
make
a
complaint.
So
you
know
those
statistics
are
you
know
we
haven't
shown
those,
but
those
are
statistics
we
track
as
well.
If
no
complaints
are
coming
in
are
We
communicating
it
properly.
We
also
want
to
know
if
there's
too
many
so
that
kind
of
that
kind
of
feedback
from
the
public
is
really
important
for
all
of
us
to
do
our
jobs
and
be
efficient.
But
again,
thank
you.
Chief
Reynolds,
especially
thank
you
Captain
reuter.
A
E
A
Everyone-
and
this
will
be
available
for
viewing
I,
think
it'll
be
published
soon,
and
we
look
forward
to
seeing
you
all
at
our
next
public
session
have
a
wonderful
night.