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City of Charleston Ad Hoc Budget Advisory Committee 9/3/20
A
B
D
B
F
A
E
H
H
B
E
B
A
I
I
I
Amen,
thank
you
all
right.
So
we're
going
to
move
right
along
and
talk
about
our
2020
budget.
I
think
y'all
saw
that
amy
had
sent
out
the
charts
on
and
figures
for,
the
monthly
reports
through
june
and
she'll
give
an
update
on
that
and
then
talk
about
our
financial
position.
As
we
stand
right
now,
amy.
G
So
I
had
sent
the
monthly
reports
out
to
you
all.
Last
night
I
was
just
going
to
briefly
go
over
them
revenues
for
july,
as
you
can
see,
we're
still
well
under
our
budgeted
our
target
numbers
for
revenues
in
the
general
fund,
except
for
property
taxes
and
business
licenses,
which
we
seem
to
be
doing,
okay
and
obviously
so
far,
and
then
for
enterprise
funds,
we're
obviously
well
under
budget
for
all
of
those
as
well
continue
to
be
under
budget
under
target
expenditures.
G
G
No
concerns
we're
tracking
over
budget
for
revenues
and
under
for
expenditures
which
some
of
that
is
probably
we
haven't
done,
some
things
that
we
have
planned
to
do
yet.
So
I
wouldn't.
I
wouldn't
expect
that
much
of
a
just
to
continue
to
track
that
much
under
budget
in
the
next
few
months,
so
update
on
our
revenue
loss
projections.
G
G
I
G
E
G
So
our
2021
budget
is
really
where
we
wanted
to
focus.
Today.
We
have
some
proposed
municipal
golf
course:
fees
that
we
wanted
to
talk
with.
All
of
you
about
that.
We'll
later
take
to
the
golf
course
commission,
and
then
we
have
our
health
care
budget
that
went
to
the
hr
committee
a
few
weeks
ago
and
then
just
our
working
plan
for
the
rest
of
the
21
budget.
G
So
the
golf
course
fees
of
what
we're
proposing
my
office
mayor's
office
and
the
golf
course
manager
and
lori
yarborough
had
worked
on
this
together
because
of
the
new
course.
It's
going
to
cost
about
200
000
more
in
operations,
because
we'll
need
additional
staff,
agricultural
supplies
and
additional
equipment
to
to
maintain
the
golf
course.
So
the
rate
increases
will
help
with
that.
But
it
will
also
be
more
reflective
of
this
new
course
as
well,
and
what
we
should
be
charging
to
play
at
that
at
the
course.
F
Yeah
yeah,
so
we're
just
going
to
kind
of
breathe
through
pretty
quickly.
One
thing
we're
following
the
same
structure
here
as
we've
had
in
the
past
as
far
as
city
residents,
tri
county
residents
and
then
non-resident
being
anyone
outside
of
charleston,
berkeley
or
dorchester,
and
I
think
another
thing
to
point
out
is
important
as
we're
still
we're
not
going
to
be
increasing
junior
fees.
One
of
our
big
goals
is
to
hit
juniors
all
different
demographics.
Really
all
of
our
programs
will
remain
consistent
with
where
they
are
now
and.
F
So
so
what
we're
doing
is
kind
of
tearing
it
to
where
we're
catering
rates
to
be
as
close
as
possible
to
where
we
were
with
city
residents.
If
you
look
with
city
senior
with
a
residence,
only
a
three
dollar
increase
same
thing
with
city
residents,
seniors,
62
and
older
right
now
and
then
on
weekends,
just
saturday
and
sunday,
as
opposed
to
friday
through
sunday
we're
doing
25
so
moving
down
to
the
to
the
tri-county
area,
a
little
more
increase
than
we
had
hoped.
F
But
we
really
wanted
to
make
sure
we
keep
the
city
residents
consistent
with
where
they
were
20
green
fee
to
play.
Golf
and
charleston
is
pretty
unheard
of
all,
obviously,
almost
anywhere
really
but
25
30
and
35
same
sort
of
tier
there
and
then
obviously,
with
the
non-residents,
we're
hiking
it
up
a
good
bit
more
same
pitch.
We've
had
in
place
for
a
couple
years
now,
so
nothing's
really
changed
and
looking
at
60
green
fees
for
non-residents
and
50
for
seniors
and
really
that's
on
a
percentage.
F
I
F
We
don't
we
don't
do
that
for
our
programs
either
we
have
for
all
of
our
leagues
the
we
do
different
leagues
for
elementary
middle
and
high
school,
that
we
host
out
here,
everything's
consistent.
All
of
our
classes
are
consistent.
All
our
tournaments
are
consistent
for
everyone,
so
we
just
distinguish
on
a
day-to-day
great
basis
and
that's
it.
C
Yeah
marshall,
thank
you
to
a
couple
of
questions
and
I'm
a
golf
hacker,
so
I
and
I
can't
wait
for
this
course
to
reopen
I'm
so
excited
about
it.
Couple
questions
sort
of
observations.
The
these
rates
are
still
very
reasonable.
I
mean
I
think
these
are
very
generous
rates
and
I'm
not
advocating
that
we
jack
them
to
the
point
that
the
public
is
not
able
to
to
to
enjoy
this.
But
how
did?
How
does
this
compare
with
other
municipal
golf
courses
up
in
north
charleston
and
westbrook
in
those
areas?
C
F
Well,
you
know:
I've
looked
at
those
are
the
two
obvious
municipal
courses,
crowfield
being
the
most
one
of
the
more
comparable
municipal
forces
to
us
and
that
it's
city
owned
and
operated
and
brokefield.
I
think
their
base
rate,
their
let's
say,
or
their
peak
rate,
is
52
bucks
to
ride
on
a
weekend
in.
F
E
C
C
F
F
D
F
That
and
you'll
see
why,
in
a
second
here,
juniors
are
showing
a
little
increase.
One
thing
I
want
to
note
on
juniors
is:
we
are
exploring
options
that
it's
going
to
stay
at
ten
dollars
and
you
know
there's
not
a
junior
rate
out
there,
that's
enormous,
but
there's
not
many
of
that
there
for
ten
dollars
either,
but
we
are
trying
to
look
at
ways
for
friends
of
the
muny
to
help
subsidize
a
program
and
probably
alongside
first
tee,
even
to
offer
free
goal
potentially
for
all
juniors.
F
So
that's
something
where
we've
been
in
discussion
with.
We
haven't
had
any
official
discussion,
but
it's
a
great
concept
and
I
think
it's
something
we
could
pull
off
potentially
and
so
that's
the
direction
we're
going
to
try
to
go
there
and
then
this
twilight
deal
down
here
is
just
when
we
let
play
come
out
late
afternoons.
F
F
Tournaments
put
outing
in
tournaments
together.
Outings
are
more
like
your
fundraiser
type
of
events,
where
we
charge
a
little
bit
more
more
like
in
the
40
to
45
range
for
golf
and
carts
the
tournaments.
We
factor
in
our
city
tournaments,
where
they're
and
those
are
ones
over
weekend
spans
where
we
don't
see
as
much
revenue
from,
but
it's
a
great
way
to
get
the
public
out
here
playing
golf.
So
that's
why
it's
kind.
B
Yeah
I
yeah
I
I
I
I
I
do
feel
like
this
is
very
reasonable.
My
husband's
group
is
like
councilmember
shade.
Nobody
can
wait
to
get
on
and
the
the
course
as
it's
come
together.
You
know
everybody's
been
holding
their
breath
that
it's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
expensive.
So
I
think
you
know
the
majority
of
people
who
play
this
course
regularly
going
to
be
very
happy
that
we're
keeping
everything
reasonable,
especially
for
the
for
the
city
residents.
B
F
Obviously
that's
what
people
ask
first
question
people
ask
that's
what
our
biggest
portion
of
our
revenue
is,
and
I
do
want
to
point
out
one
thing:
if
you
look
at
the
bottom
here:
the
quantity
of
sales
for
2021
that
we're
projecting
49
000
rounds,
we
did
right
around
57
000
rounds
in
2019.,
so
we're
trying
to
present
a
pretty
conservative
number
here,
and
I
say
that
2018,
which
is
also
a
normal
year
as
far
as
no
construction
on
the
course
or
clubhouse
or
anything
we
did.
We
were
right
around
50
000
rounds.
F
D
F
So
forth
so
we're
strictly
relying
on
day-to-day
traffic,
and
so
the
weather
becomes
our
big
best
friend
and
worst
enemy,
so
we're.
I
think
that
49
000
safe
number,
but
it
is
important
to
see
we're
not
trying
to
throw
out
an
absorbent
number
there
just
to
get
to
the
to
the
bottom
line
so
showing
just
over
2.6
total
in
revenues.
All
of
the
quantities
same
thing,
the
breakdown
of
resident
versus
non-resident,
is
fairly
consistent.
With
what
we've
seen
we
are
expecting
a
little
more
non-resident
traffic,
which
I
think
is
safe.
F
F
Right
now,
it's
probably,
I
think
it's
67
we're
non-resident.
That's
fluctuated,
you
know
a
percent
or
two
over
the
years
and
it's
not
an
enormous
number.
The
the
percent
of
revenue
for
rounds
is
a
little
more
than
that
and
obviously
we'll
see
that
increase.
I
think
we'll
see
non-resident
play
increase
too,
but
we'll
definitely
see
the
dollars
per
round
from
non-residents.
Go
up
with
the
higher
grades.
F
E
K
F
J
K
C
K
F
We've
got
crew
that
comes
and
dies,
I
don't
they
hadn't
been
out
in
a
few
years.
You
should
come
and
dive
and
then
used
to
sell
them
back
to
us
as
much
sense
as
that
may
and
we
turn
around
and
sell
it.
So
there
that's
out
there
too,
what
else?
Moving
on
the
annual
passes
here,
the
when
you
look
at
the
yearly
calls.
This
is
a
little
confusing
just
because
we're
we're
going
to
try
to
do
it
a
little
differently
in
regards
to
the
user
fee.
F
So
we
currently
charge
a
three
dollar
user
fee.
When
our
pass
holders
play
right
now
they
can
you're.
Looking
at
the
annual
prices,
450
600
650
800,
that's
basically.
Basically
we
just
do
an
equation
based
on
the
amount
of
rounds.
Try
to
do
a
break.
We
were
trying
to
do
a
break
even
at
about
50
rounds
a
year
which
is
once
a
week,
and
so,
if
you
played
more
than
that,
we
had
options
in
place
to
discount
the
golf
for
you.
So
the
important
part
here
is
this
is
not
a
membership.
F
This
is
essentially
a
bulk
rate
discount.
So
we
don't.
If
you
in
comparison
to
other
courses
that
you're
used
to
playing
or
if
you're
a
member
somewhere
else
that
comes
along
with
sometimes
a
full
membership
or
range
balls
that
are
included
or
tournaments,
that
you
have
special
access
to
so
on
so
forth,
so
this
is
more
or
less.
If
you
play
x
amount
of
rounds,
it's
worth
it
for
you,
that's
how
we
sell
it.
F
Less
people
doing
this
program
honestly,
I
don't
know
that
I
have
any
idea
what
will
turn
of
it.
I
I
will
say:
we've
had
a
lot
of
new
requests
from
people,
I'm
not
familiar
with,
which
is
exciting,
but
too
much
of
this
play
has
been
a
concern
in
years
past,
just
with
lowering
it
effectively
lowers
your
green
feed
of
where
you
end
up
having
the
bulk
of
your
prime
play.
Your
8
o'clock
a.m
to
10
a.m.
F
F
What
we've
also
done
is
based
it
off
of
a
60
round
a
year
basis
compared
to
a
normal
rate
and
that's
kind
of
the
break-even
point,
and
but
you
want
you
know
overall
from
iran,
you
want
these
people
there.
These
are
kind
of
your
bread
and
butter.
These
are
people
that
are
there
regularly
that
are
building
up
your
golf
course
that
enjoy
being
out
there.
F
I
just
think
there's
a
fine
line
and
too
much
and,
and
that
comes
from
two
discounted
two.
So
that's
that's
kind
of
the
presentation
in
my
worries.
In
a
nutshell,
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
y'all
I
just
briefly
have
much
to
say
on
that,
but
that
same
structure
eliminating
the
user
fee,
which
ups
the
upfront
cost
and
and
the
projected
total
income
there
with
that
said,
is
just
based
on
135
of
these
participants
at
those
dollar
amounts.
F
F
Range
prices
we're
we're
looking
a
little
better
experience
on
the
range
we've
got
a
new
strip.
We've
got
a
lot
bigger
range
teeth,
it's
been
leveled,
better
grass,
better
conditions,
all
the
way
across
the
board
same
thing
with
the
putting
green.
We
also
have
a
three
whole
short
game
area
that
is,
will
not
be
of
any
charge
to
people
and
all
in
all
we're
looking
at.
I
think
I've
shown
a
little
bit
of
a
increase
in
quantity
of
sales.
F
That's
important,
because
that's
your
second,
that's
our
second
highest
revenue
line.
I
think
we're
well
within
what
any
golf
course
does
around
here
is
20
to
28
dollars,
probably
for
the
cart
itself.
Obviously
we
have
a
lot
of
walkers
still
40
of
our
play.
Walkers,
whereas
actually
crowfield's
manager
told
me
recently
they
have
over
90
percent
of
their
rounds
are
riding
rounds.
So
that's
the
difference,
the
hitting
revenue,
but
it's
great
for
the
public.
It
comes
out
and
fights.
F
F
Revenue
from
that
standpoint,
but
I
think
that
fits
the
mold
for
what
we
are.
It's
the
municipal
facility.
It's
easy
to
walk,
it's
a
good.
It's
a
good
way
to
promote
it.
I
think,
but
yeah
there's
a
lot
of
courses,
shadow
moss
being
one
that
factors
the
court
fee
into
the
green
fee
and
you
play
it
whether
you
walk
a
ride
unless
you're
a
member.
J
I
I
mean
it
would
seem
to
me
you're
either
in
the
city
or
you're.
Not
you
know,
you
know
to
get
a
differential
and
if
you're
going
to
have
a
three-way
tier,
I
I
would
question
whether
you,
you
add
a
little
more
fee
to
those
other
tri-county
citizens
who
do
not
live
in
the
city.
I
mean
all
of
our
taxpayers
are
helping
to
pay
for
this
and
it's
not
really
a
money,
a
big
profitable
operation.
I
F
We
did
you
know
we
backtracked
and
increased
it
a
little
more
than
we
originally
had
it,
and
it's
you
know
that
pitch
makes
perfect
sense,
you're
in
the
city
you're,
not
with
the
exception
of
several
homeowners
that
live
on
this
golf
course
that
are
not
in
the
city
and
it
becomes
a
day-to-day
operationally.
The
difficult
part
is
controlling
who's,
who,
in
the
sense
that
you
have
a
lot
of
renters,
you
have
a
lot
of
people
moving.
H
F
You
know
it's,
the
tri-county
area
in
itself
seems
like
quite
a
stretch
for
for
what
we're
offering.
If,
if
we
were
to
do
any
break
for
those,
I
I
think
it's
come
up
where
we
could
maybe
reach
out
to
the
county
town
of
james
island,
san
andreas,
public
service
district
and
any
kind
of
tier
there
to
see
if
they'd
want
to
subsidize
it
for
their
residents
and
charge
a
higher
premium.
I
have
looked
at
the
numbers
and
combining
them,
and
I
can't
I
don't.
F
Exact
rate,
but
I
want
to
say
it
was
going
to
work
out
to
be
like
40
45
50.
If
we
were
to
combine
the
tri-county
and
non-residents
to
get
to
the
same
total
number
it
was,
it
wouldn't
be
astronomical.
If
we
were
to
combine
the
tri-county
non-resident,
it
would
just
be
a
much
bigger
leap,
obviously
from
tri
county
based
on
our
previous.
I
F
Well,
we've
gotten:
we've
relied
exclusively
on
the
gis,
where
our
staff
have
to
look
in
the
into
the
gis
and
the
difficulty
is.
Our
staff
seems
to
have
a
lot
of
fat
fingers
that
hit
too
many
numbers
and
letters
when
they're
typing
addresses
in
becomes
hard
to
find.
But
we've
been
working
on
programs
to
have
the
customer
if
they
want
to
get
the
city
resident
rate
to
be
equipped
with
that
information
before
they
arrive,
whether
they
go
through
red
track
online
or
another
feature
that
would
have
to
come
become
available
later.
F
F
B
I
F
F
You
know
outside
of
the
city
and
outside
of
james
allen,
john's
island
and
in
west
ashley
to
where
they
can
get
themselves
discounts
through,
whether
it
through
membership
or
other
programs
at
the
courses
to
where
they
make
free
for
this,
but
all
in
all,
you
lose
a
little
and
you
have
increased
rates,
you're
still
still
making
out
in
the
good.
So
it's
certainly
an
option.
I
C
C
F
The
adage
with
with
memberships,
like
they
say,
with
real
estate,
10
percent
of
your
players,
10
percent
of
your
sales
people
sell
90
percent
of
homes
play
90
of
the
rounds.
The
difference
here
is
that
it's
people
join
those
memberships
to
be
a
member
to
have
a
a
place
to
go
that
they
otherwise
wouldn't
be
able
to.
H
C
H
F
If
you
play
100
rounds
a
year,
if
you
play
70
rounds
a
year,
if
you
play
150
times
a
year,
so
that's
the
incentive,
if
they're
here,
two
three
days
a
week,
your
senior
residents
that
live
around
here
we've
got
a
couple
of
groups
that
play
three
days
a
week,
especially
if
you
play
weekends,
when
we
don't
offer
senior
discounts,
it's
a
much
better
deal
and
we
kind
of
fish
it
like
that.
We
talk,
we
don't
we
don't.
We
don't
really
sell
this
program,
it's
more
hey!
F
F
H
F
We
aren't
charging
the
user
fee
in
this
program
so
that
no,
that
is
it's
just
three
dollars
a
round,
but
at
50
times
that
puts
you
up
to
600
and
of
course
it
is
still
a
leap
but
we're
comparing
it
to
the
rate
increase
on
a
dollars
per
round
basis.
So
it's
if
you
play
90
rounds
in
a
year.
It's
a
three
dollar
per
round
increase
is
what
that
comes
to
right.
C
J
F
F
F
J
F
Right,
it's
17
bucks,
a
pop
to
play
for
as
a
senior
resident
so
and
if
they
want
to
come
in
the
afternoons
seven
days
a
week,
they
can
play
for
15.
So
there's
there's
options
out
there
for
everybody
this
is
more
or
less.
This
is
a
again.
This
is
kind
of
your
people
that
you
want
people
at
your
course
frequently.
F
There
you
know
we're
going
to
kind
of
follow
a
food
cost
basis
there.
So
we
have
I've
spoken
with
some
friends
in
the
restaurant
industry,
which
isn't
like
more
just
kind
of
figuring
out
the
ins
and
outs
of
how
you
come
to
certain
pricing.
It's
all
over
the
place,
but
and
we're
not
necessarily
a
business
from
that
standpoint.
But
it's
certainly
an
opportunity
to
show
some
if
nothing
else
make
sure
we
cover
our
expenses
in
there.
Our
food
cost
is
somewhere
between
45
50.
F
F
I
F
Might
be
another
discussion,
but
shooting
for
I'd,
say
first
of
november
would
be
a
goal,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
have
that
conversation.
We
certainly
don't
want
to
trample
the
course
too
much
for
where
it
stands
at
that
time.
So
we'll
have
to
have
that
conversation
over
the
next
month
or
so
here.
Gotcha.
F
G
G
G
G
So
these
this
is
the
summary
really
of
where
the
increases
are.
So
you
see
medical
went
up
significantly
because
of
the
claims,
so,
whereas
we
were
at
21.4
million
last
year,
we're
at
23
million
this
year
in
total
costs,
and
then
these
are
the
premiums.
This
will
show
you
the
increases
for
the
employees
in
that
far
right
column,
depending
on
what
what
plan
our
employees
enroll
in
you
just
want
to
look
at
that
real
quick.
You
have
any
questions
on
that.
G
That's
vision
and
dental
vision
did
not
increase
at
all
dental
increased,
so
total
employee
contributions
for
medical,
dental
and
vision
is
3.5
million,
which
covers
about
15
percent
of
our
health
care
costs.
So,
even
though
we're
increasing
it
they're,
not
absorbing
you
know
the
city's
absorbing
absorbing
the
most
cost
for
health
care.
G
L
K
K
L
E
E
G
G
So
we
plan
to
just
meet
with
these
these
departments.
Please
fire
tnt
it
public
service
and
parks,
because
those
are
our
biggest
our
biggest
departments
that
have
the
biggest
expenses.
Everyone
else
really
didn't
ask
for
much
more
or
reduce
their
budget.
So
usually
those
are
the
departments
that
we
meet
with.
So,
if
you're,
all
okay
with
those
with
those
departments
and
we'll
set
those
meetings
up.
G
G
Okay
and
then
we're
playing
hoping
for
september
9th
to
go
through
that
complete
list.
I
haven't,
set
the
the
meetings
out
yet
because
then
you
just
need
to
verify
with
the
clerk's
office
that
it
won't
interfere
with
any
other
committee
meetings
which
I
don't
think
they
will.
But
I
just
want
to
make
sure-
and
those
are
the
dates
that
we're
looking
for.
G
G
E
G
G
G
We
had
this
presentation
a
few
years
ago,
but
I
understand
most.
A
lot
of
you
are
new,
so
the
way
that
this
is
distributed
per
county
is
71
of
it
is
allocated
to
tax
rollback.
67
of
that
71
is
distributed
to
the
county
and
33
is
to
the
municipalities
and
that's
based
on
the
municipality's
population.
As
a
percentage
of
the
total
population
of
all
the
municipalities
in
the
county,
clear
claire's
mud.
G
And
then
the
revenue
fund
is
the
rest
of
the
29,
goes
to
the
revenue
fund
and
that's
based
on
50
percent
on
the
location
of
the
sale
and
50
based
on
population,
and
that's
the
fun
that
we
were
talking
about
that
we
do
not
have
to.
We
do
not
have
to
give
back,
but
we
do
roll
back
from.
You
have
to
get
back
no
matter.
G
G
I
G
So
you
have
to
where
you
have
to
you,
have
to
use
the
rollback
fund
as
a
tax
credit.
The
revenue
fund
is
flexible
unless
100
of
it
is
pledged
as
a
tax
credit,
which
is
what
the
city
did
in
1990..
The
original
law
was
passed
in
1990
and
so
we've
always
given
100
percent
back
our
result.
We
did
a
resolution
in
1990
to
pledge
100
of
the
revenue
fund
as
a
tax
credit.
B
Amy
is
there,
is
there
some
then
a
correlation
to
the
mills?
I
thought,
when
you
explained
this
to
me
directly
a
couple
years
ago,
that
we
we've
always
given
back
a
hundred
percent
to
the
the
homeowner,
as
you
said,
but
something
that
we
then
we
can
actually
have
a
higher
cap
on
that
on
the
mills
annually.
G
B
G
G
G
So
we
want
to
change
it
from
100
to
what
and
I
have
some
slides
that
show
where,
where
we
might
want
to
be
with
that,
and
because
we
talked
with
legal
about
procedures,
how
this
would
work
because,
in
effect
it
would
be
a
millage
increase.
They
think
that
we
need
a
public
hearing
notice
at
least
15
days
in
advance,
and
we
would
also
need
an
ordinance
to
amend
the
budget
that
would
that
would
require
three
readings.
G
So
if
we
change
our
pledge,
our
pledge
that
we're
giving
100
back
right
now,
we've
not
received
any
of
our
assessment
numbers
from
charleston
county
we're
expecting
we're
hoping
that
we're
going
to
get
them
by
by
tomorrow
afternoon.
If
not,
it
will
be
early
in
the
week,
and
because
this
is
a
reassessment
year,
it
will
take
us
some
time
to
calculate
the
millage
rate
and
the
tax
credit
factor
rate,
because
we
need
to
calculate
the
rollback
and
everything
else.
So
it'll
take
us
a
little
bit
of
time.
G
Usually
when
we
get
the
assessments,
we
look
at
it
and
do
a
reasonable
test
with
it,
and
we
often
send
it
back
and
we
go
back
and
forth
to
the
county
a
few
times
before
we
get
a
final
number.
So
just
to
give
you
perspective
that
it
will
take
us
a
little
bit
of
time
to
do
that.
Calculation,
charleston
county,
wants
those
values
no
later
than
september
25th,
so
we're
kind
of
running
out
of
time
and
berkeley
county
starts
asking
us
in
the
middle
of
august
for
them
because
they're
they
want
them
immediately.
G
G
G
G
G
C
G
C
G
A
K
A
G
G
It's
confusing
for
sure.
So
then
we
just
did
just
a
property
tax
calculation,
just
to
show
you
if
we
gave
back
75
or
if
we
gave
back
50
what
that
would
do
to
a
property
tax
bill.
So
you
see
at
100
at
718
on
a
300
000
house
and
giving
back
75
percent
be
745,
and
only
giving
back.
50
would
be
772
charleston
county,
and
then
this
would
be
berkeley
county.
G
G
Yeah
so
lost
tax
credit.
It's
calculated,
as
is
the
total
loss
credited,
which
is
that
calm
comes
from
the
shade
that
you
asked
me
about
by
the
total
appraised
value,
so
growth
and
revenue
is
a
potential
increase
in
the
tax
credit
factor,
which
means
a
lower
net
millage
over
since
1990
this
year.
It's
really
hard
for
us
to
estimate
loss
because
of
everything
being
said.
G
G
and
it's
just
hard
to
estimate
the
growth
increase
value
by
beyond
one
year.
So
growth
and
loss
revenue
over
the
years
has
always
resulted
in
a
higher
tax
credit
factor
and
lower
effective
millage
rate.
So
before
proven,
19
growth
and
loss
revenue
is
expected
to
continue.
You
know
this
over
the
years.
We've
done
really
well
with
this
and
have
been
able
to
provide
that
to
our
citizens.
G
G
So
we
have
the
2020
census
that
we'll
get
we're
supposed
to
get
the
results
in
march,
but
we've
heard
that
it's
delayed
some
like
everything
else
is
delayed.
So
that's
another
little
bit
of
an
uncertainty
for
us,
so
we're
gonna
have
to
be
super
conservative
with
how
we
how
we
project
this
out
just
so,
we
don't
end
up
giving
back
more
than
we
should
or
not
enough,
which
would
be
worse
actually.
G
So
with
us
only
having
six
months
of
revenue
to
work
with
the
nuclear
trend
and
stick
like
I
said
it's
kind
of
difficult
for
us
to
predict,
but
everything
is
difficult
for
us
to
predict
this
year.
Honestly.
So
I
know
I
don't
know
I'm
just
thinking
for
2020.
It
would
be
really
hard
to
kind
of
get
this
done
in
time
and
it
might
be
better
for
2021.
B
G
So-
and
we
would
just
do
all
this
through
the
budget
process
for
2021
so
you'd
have
all
the
procedural
I
mean
everything
would
flow
exactly
like
it
would
right
with
the
budget.
You'd
have
the
three
the
three
readings
we
could
do.
The
resolution
at
some
point
before
that
and
then
have
the
three
readings
in
december.
Like
we
always
do,
we.
B
G
Well,
it
would
be
in
our
2021
budget,
though
the
revenue
would
because
we
would
get
we'll
get
the
majority
of
that
in
20.
Usually
in
december
we
get
a
good
portion
of
that,
so
we
would,
it
would
be
in
our
that's
how
we
would
project
the
2021
property
tax
revenue
would
be
taking
this
into
consideration.
I
Okay,
thank
you.
The
reason
it
came
up
you
know
at
this
11th
hour
was
that
with
our
revenue
shortfall
that,
if
you
garnered
some
of
the
local
option,
revenue
side
that
we're
allowed
to
it
would
offset
some
of
our
revenue
shortfall
for
this
year,
but
but
amy
makes
a
good
point
would
have
to.
If,
if
we
have
to
have
a
public
hearing
and
three
readings,
we
basically
have
to
get
it
done
in
september
before
this
year's
tax
bill
goes
out,.
G
That's
right,
and
so
we
don't
even
have
the
assessment
numbers.
Yet
that's
what
makes
me
nervous
about
it
because
we
would
actually
have
to
get
it
on
this.
Next
we'd
have
to
do
something
this
next
meeting
september,
8th
meeting-
and
I
don't
have
the
I
don't-
have
the
assessment
numbers
to
even
calculate
it.
So
there's
no
way
we
could
get
it
on
on
the
september
8th
meeting,
because
I
don't
even
have
the
numbers
to
be
able
to
do
it.
G
I
C
K
Warren
yeah,
thank
you,
mr
may.
I
I
number
one
I
want
to
thank
amy
for
putting
this
these
slides
together,
but
if
we
would
I'm
sure
she's
gonna
follow
them
to
us
kind
of
look
at
this.
Do
some
homework
and
circle
back
real,
quick.
I
think
that
would
be
in
keeping.
I
don't
think
we
have
to
make
all
this
sausage
today.
G
No,
if
we
want
to
consider
this
for
2021,
I
mean
we'll
obviously
have
we'll
have
to
make
some
big
decisions
on
how
much
we
want
to
give
back
and
how
much
we
want
to
keep
and
things
like
that,
so
we,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
all
that
out
for
2020.
I
just
don't.
I
don't
know
that
we
can
make
it
work,
but
we
can
definitely
look
at
it
for
2021
and
we
have
a
lot
more
discussion
about
it
and
numbers,
especially
once
we
get
the
assessment
from
the
county.
G
G
So
other
business,
the
tax
anticipation,
note
and
stormwater
bond
refunding
we
put
the
rfp
out
and
got
them
back,
and
we
have
an
interest
rate
of
0.44
for
the
tax
anticipation,
though
yeah
that's
pretty
pretty
good
we're
borrowing,
20
million
dollars
to
get
us
through
the
end
of
the
year.
The
closing
will
be
on
september
22nd,
it
matures
on
april
15th
and
it's
callable
at
par
on
or
after
march
first,
so
we
could
pay
it
as
early
as
march
1st
pay
it
back
any
questions
on
that.
I
K
G
And
then
we
had
an
opportunity
in
the
market
we
had
talked
about.
You
know
the
possibly
refunding
our
stormwater
bond,
but
at
the
time
it
was
almost
better
for
us
to
wait
a
year
to
do
it,
but
market's
just
favorable
right
now
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
refund
that
we
we,
you
will
see
it
on
the
september
8th
council
meeting
and
it's
right
now
it's
for
about
not
exceeding
34
million
for
that
bond.
G
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And
then
we
have,
after
one
year
of
tax
law,
allows
we
could
convert
the
tax
because
it
will
be
a
taxable
bond.
I
should
have
said
that
in
the
prior
slide,
we
can
convert
it
to
a
non-taxable
bond
which
would
provide
additional
savings.
The
conversion
would
be
at
approximately
80
percent
of
the
interest
rate.
So
that's
where
the
additional
savings
comes
from
and
in
the
ordinance
that
you'll
see
on
tuesday,
it
authorizes
us
to
go
ahead
and
convert
that
without
it
coming
back
to
council.
G
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G
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K
I
I
do
have
a
question,
mr
myth.
I
I
know
we're
going
back
to
our
department
heads
and
asking
about
you
know
for
them
to
any
cuts,
and
I
know
they're
gonna
be
busy
about
doing
that.
I
did
not
ask
the
question:
do
we
have
any
consulting
contracts
out
there
that
can
be
pushed
in
pushed
off
a
year
or
what
not
can
we?
You
don't
have
to
give
me
the
answer
today,
but
I
mean:
can
we
look
into
that
and
maybe
get
a
response
sometimes
next
week
sure.