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From YouTube: City of Charleston City Council Meeting 5/23/2023
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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 5/23/2023
A
C
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
you
know
I'm,
not
one
that
gets
criticized
for
not
speaking,
but
given
today's
events,
I
didn't
feel
comfortable.
Giving
these
remarks
I
just
feel
I,
don't
feel
up
to
the
task,
given
what
this
city
has
lost.
I'll
just
share
one
brief
anecdote
about
Chief,
Reynolds
I
know
we
all
have
many
of
them
and
we
can't
spend
today
doing
that.
There'll
be
a
time
and
place
for
that.
C
But
about
a
month
ago,
after
the
shooting
in
Tennessee,
with
the
with
the
school
I,
had
a
school
teacher
in
my
district
reach
out
to
me.
She
was
terrified
and
concerned
about
safety
and
she
wanted
to
know
what
the
City
of
Charleston
was
doing
to
prevent
something
like
that
from
happening
and
I
texted,
the
chief
Reynolds
and
I
said
Chief
Reynolds.
C
You
know
somebody's
reached
out
they'd
like
to
speak.
Somebody
if
you
can't
do
it
I
understand
he
immediately
texted
back
saying:
please
connect
us
and
they
spoke
and
I
have
no
idea
what
he
was
going
through
at
that
time.
But
I
bet
it
wasn't
good,
but
that's
the
kind
of
guy
Chief
Reynolds
was,
and
that
teacher
who
reached
out
to
me
was
touched
by
him
and
he
was.
C
D
We
ask
for
comfort
comfort
upon
his
family
that
you
and
your
spirit
in
all
the
ways
that
you
touch
be
with
Caroline
and
Grace,
and
Luke
and
the
whole
family
God
uplift
them
and
give
them
your
comfort,
but
Lord,
especially.
We
thank
you
that
you
have
showed
us.
What
love
looks
like
through
chief,
that
he
lived
his
love,
that
he
was
a
cops
cop,
that
he
was
a
communities
cop
that
he
brought
those
two
together
in
tandem
in
beautiful
ways.
D
D
For
a
leader
that
had
the
empathy
and
the
compassion
to
reach
down
and
touch
Hearts
to
hold
hands
and
to
walk
forward
and
Lord,
now
in
this
time
may
we
all
live
his
legacy,
for
he
has
defined
policing
he's
defined
what
it
looks
like
for
this
city
and
our
future
Lord.
In
this
moment,
we
just
offer
some
silence
May
time,
stop
that
we
can
reflect
a
wonderful
servant.
D
E
A
Robinson,
thank
you
for
that
beautiful
prayer
of
the
many
legacies
that
Chief
Reynolds
leaves
to
this
community
is
the
love
and
support
of
the
Charleston
Police
Department
and
I'd
like
to
ask
our
Deputy
Chiefs
cheetah
Walker
Dustin
Thompson
Jack.
We
used
to
join
me
for
just
a
moment
up
here
in
Cheeto.
Oh
deputy
chief
Walker
would
like
to
make
a
brief
remarks
in
for
the
Charleston
Police
Department
Tito.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
it's
on
behalf
of
the
men
and
women
of
the
Charleston
Police
Department.
We
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
mayor
to
this
leadership
body
Council
to
our
community
and
to
our
brothers
and
sisters
from
across
this
country.
The
support
has
been
overwhelming
and
definitely
needed.
E
A
A
He
lived
it
in
his
everyday
and
God
Rest.
His
soul
and
God
bless
yours,
your
family
and
we'll
we'll
have
have
more
over
the
next
week
and
at
the
service
so
not
to
overwhelm
you,
but
I
do
just
in
Luther's.
Honor
asks
everyone
to.
Please
recognize
Caroline
Reynolds
and
their
daughter,
Grace,
with
with
her
seat
of
the
bag.
A
A
F
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you.
Jerry
before
I
do
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
and
say
Luther
and
I
had
to
exchange
many
texts
over
the
years,
some
about
city
council,
but
a
lot
about
food
and
I'm
going
to
miss
him
dearly.
I
received
a
text
about
three
weeks
ago
and
Luther.
If
you're
looking
down,
there's
a
lunch
lunch
waiting
for
you.
F
We've
still
got
it,
we
still
have
bills
to
pay,
so
we're
gonna
make
sure
I
just
want
to
thank
the
mayor
in
the
city
for
recognizing
Jerry.
He
wears
many
roles
in
our
community
and
before
my
term
ends
in
January.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
city
recognized
him
for
all.
He
does
for
our
community
in
our
city,
he's
been
instrumental
in
the
formation
and
success
of
the
citizens,
police
advisory
Council
and
continues
to
be
a
strong
voice
for
criminal
justice
and
police
reform
in
our
city.
F
He's
worked
closely
with
Luther
over
the
years
and
he
was
instrumental
figure
on
the
special
Commission
on
Equity
inclusion,
racial
conciliation,
which
I
co-chaired
with
council
member
Dudley,
Gregory
and
I,
currently
chair
our
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation,
commission,
which
is
known
as
hark
with
Jerry.
Now
it's
been
my
pleasure
getting
to
work
with
Jerry,
as
he
has
measured
and
he's
experienced
enough
to
know
when
to
push
and
when
to
pull
and
is
no
stranger
to
political
Dynamics.
F
H
This
is
a
typical
moment
to
be
recognized
in
the
face
of
what
our
communities
lost.
I
want
to.
Thank
you
for
the
unexpected
recognition.
It's
been
an
honor
to
serve
on
various
boards
and
commissions.
Give
me
an
opportunity
to
invest
as
a
citizen
in
this
city,
Beyond
just
paying
taxes
and
voting,
which
is
Our
obligation
in
doing
so,
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
gain
an
appreciation
for
the
opportunities
and
challenges
of
facing
all
of
us
as
Citizens.
H
It
has
been
said
that
much
has
given
much
is
required.
I've
had
the
advantage
of
a
rich
James,
Island
family
history,
going
back
to
the
Civil
War,
a
world-class
higher
education,
an
extensive
career
in
government,
higher
education
as
well
as
work
in
a
private
and
non-profit
sectors.
As
a
retiree
now,
I
have
an
opportunity
to
apply
to
my
lessons
learned,
while
participating
with
my
wife,
Wendy
homily
and
jokingly
refers
to
as
my
hobby
attending
meetings.
H
His
commitment
was
and
remains
to
be,
taking
action
on
shared
goals
and
values.
This
is
a
portion
of
his
legacy
that
we
all
should
honor
with
that
in
mind,
I
think
that
we
should
focus
on
how
do
we
make
and
promote
civility?
The
notion
of
constructive
dialogue
involves
principles
of
let
not
let
winning
at
any
cost,
be
driving.
Our
Behavior
ask
questions
to
understand
beyond
the
perspectives
share
your
story
and
Other
Stories,
most
importantly,
learn
how
to
listen.
H
Make
sure
that
everyone
feels
her
is
one
thing
to
say:
I
hear
you
it's
something
else
to
demonstrate
that
you
hear
and
then
finally
find
out
what
we
share.
That's
in
common!
That's
our
goal
in
building
community
in
the
memory
of
Luther
I.
Ask
us
to
commit
to
build
and
maintain
our
community
together
to
make
our
communities
problems
our
problems
and
to
solve
them
together.
Thank
you
again
for
this
recognition
and
remember
that
service
is
a
rent
we
pay
for
our
time
here
on
Earth.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
So
this
Proclamation
regarding
national
tennis
month,
whereas
the
United
States
tennis
Association,
the
non-profit,
National
governing
body
for
tennis,
has
declared
the
month
of
May
as
national
tennis
month
to
encourage
players,
organizations
facilities,
others
to
promote
local
programs
and
activities
at
tennis,
clubs,
parks
and
other
facilities
to
Showcase
tennis
and
spread.
The
word
about
the
sport
and
its
benefits
to
help
players
and
prospective
players
alike,
find
courts
and
play
opportunities
in
their
Community,
whereas
the
Charleston
area
is
recognized
nationally
for
the
strength
of
its
tennis
community
y'all,
we
got
a
lot
going
on.
A
We
got
the
Low
Country
tennis
Association,
the
Low
Country
youth,
tennis,
Association
Charleston
area.
Ladies
tennis
Association,
the
Credit
One
Charlton
opened
the
Charleston
area,
adaptive
tennis,
community
Charleston,
Tri-County
Elementary
and
Middle
School
league
Charleston,
West,
Side,
Tennis
Club.
All
these
groups
involved
involved
in
the
great
sport
attendance,
whereas
playing
tennis
has
a
positive
impact
from
a
host
of
medical
perspectives.
Both
physical
and
mental
and
medical
studies
have
documented
that
tennis
players
on
average
live
9.7
years
longer
than
non-tennis
players.
You
might
want
to
think
about
that
and
get
out
on
the
court.
Nine.
A
Tennis
encourages
and
enables
participation
across
the
entire
community
and
courtesy
and
good
sportsmanship
are
the
norm
in
the
game
of
tennis,
whereas
the
City
of
Charleston
has
70
public
tennis,
courts
used
by
adult
leagues,
recreational
players
and
youth,
and
whereas
the
citizens
of
the
City
of
Charleston
and
other
Charleston
area
communities
are
encouraged
to
enjoy
the
sport
for
a
lifetime
and
support
national
tennis
month
and
the
continuing
growth
of
tennis
throughout
our
area
and
by
the
way
did
I
tell
you.
We
got
new
lights
at
both
the
Maybank
Center
and
the
Charleston
Tennis
Center.
A
They
really
light
those
courts
up
well
at
night,
so
you
can
play
during
the
day
you
can
play
at
night,
whereas
playing
tennis,
whether
you're,
5
or
95,
is
just
plain
fun.
Now,
therefore,
I
John
Jay
tecklenberg,
mayor
of
the
city,
along
with
city
council,
proclaimed
May
2023
as
national
tennis
month
in
the
City
of
Charleston.
K
Good
evening
I'm
Bill
Lenas
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Lowcountry
tennis,
Association,
Mr,
Mayor
and
distinguished
Council.
We
extend
our
appreciation
and
recognition
of
national
tennis
month,
as
well
as
the
extraordinary
growth
of
the
Lowcountry
tennis
Association
over
the
last
five
years.
We're
now
the
fourth
largest
Tennis
League
in
the
United
States
only
Orlando,
Dallas
and
Atlanta
are
larger
than
us
right
now.
K
So
that's
a
tribute.
It's
a
tribute
to
your
support,
but
also
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
recognize
the
incredible
support
that
we
get
from
the
Charleston
Recreational
department
led
by
Laura
Yarbrough
and
behind
me
the
iconic
Peggy
Boney
runs
the
tennis
Association
for
them,
and
their
great
staff.
I
also
want
to
thank
the
Charleston
tennis
captains,
the
players
and
we're
all
volunteer.
No
one
is
compensated.
We
all
do
this
because
we
love
the
game
of
tennis
and
we
realize
the
benefits
that
have
been
to
this
community.
K
J
I'm
Bob
I'm
Bob
hi
from
been
in
the
tennis
community
here
since
the
early
1990s,
seen
the
growth
of
tennis
here
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
again
for
your
support,
particularly
this
past
year.
The
the
new
lights
at
Maybank
and
at
Charleston
Tennis
Center,
are
great,
but
I
also
want
to
encourage
you
to
be
thinking
as
you're
having
or
having
population
boom.
New
people
moving
in
we're
going
to
need
to
have
more
courts
in
order
to
support
the
the
new
people
coming
into
town.
J
J
A
A
We
have
one
more
recognition.
This
evening,
I'd
like
to
ask
councilmember
Kevin
shealy
to
join
me
and
Trevor
Sheeler
I
see
Trevor
with
us.
It's
also
a
national
collector
car
appreciation
day
coming
up.
Y'all
and
Trevor's
been
involved
with
this
for
years
and
good
friends
with
council
member
Sheely.
Here's
a
proclamation
regarding
that,
whereas
beginning
in
2009,
the
United
States
Congress
declared
National
collector
car
appreciation
day
to
recognize
a
collection
and
restoration
of
historic
and
classic
cars
as
an
important
part
of
preserving
the
technological
achievements,
cultural
heritage
of
the
United
States.
A
United
States,
including
the
collection,
restoration
preservation
of
collector
cards.
Therefore
I
John
J
tacklemore,
mayor
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
along
with
city
council,
do
hereby
McLean
Saturday,
it's
actually
coming
up
in
July.
When
we
will
do
this,
July
8th
will
be
National.
Collector
car
Appreciation
Day
in
the
City
of
Charleston
and
Trevor
does
an
incredible
job.
L
Thank
you,
sir
yeah
I'm,
the
president
of
the
antique
Automobile
Club
of
America
region.
Here
in
Charleston
and
I'll,
say
in
my
life
before
law
enforcement,
there
were
old
cars
and
if
you
can
get
a
kid
into
old
cars,
you
can
rest
assured.
They'll
never
have
money
left
for
drugs,
but
we
we
this
event.
L
What
we
do
is
is
cars
from
every
description
doesn't
have
to
even
be
all
the
cars
of
every
description,
We
Gather
at
middlebank,
Park
about
8,
30
or
9
on
Saturday,
the
8th,
and
then
we
embark
on
a
caravan
that
I
map
out
a
route
through
the
historic
district.
And
then
we
go
do
a
scenic
drive
after
that,
and
we
would
invite
any
city
council
folks
to
come
along
other
residents
to
come
out
and
see
us
and
visit
and
we'll
find
you
a
seat
in
the
car.
L
If
you
want
to
go
for
a
ride,
Kevin
has
come
with
us
several
times
and
and
the
mayor's
been
there
to
read
the
proclamation
too.
We
really
appreciate
it
and
as
a
professional
scouter
separately,
I
would
like
to
thank
Jerry,
please,
sir,
for
your
donation
of
pygmy
Park.
We've
got
two
Scout
units
that
meet
there
and
that's
my
next
stop
after
I
leave
here
so,
but
thank
you
all
council
member
and
thank
you.
A
Okay,
terrific
so
y'all
for
the
purposes
of
our
public
hearings,
they're
all
rezoning
of
properties,
mostly
those
that
have
annexed
into
the
city,
but
for
the
record
we
have
these
public
hearings
in
case
anybody
wants
to
speak
on
any
of
these
properties
before
we
take
action
upon
them.
So
I'm
going
to
call
out
the
names
of
the
properties,
Mr
Morgan
will
make
a
brief
presentation
about
all
of
them,
and
then
anybody
who
wants
to
come
forward
about
any
of
the
properties
will
be
happy
to
hear
from
you.
A
Here
are
the
properties
17
Magazine
Street
to
Radcliffe
Street
226,
Norris,
Avenue,
1721,
Ashley,
River,
Road,
1708,
Jessamine,
Road,
1349,
Ashley,
Hall,
Road,
1648,
successionville,
Road,
1408,
Orange,
Grove,
Road,
360,
Linwood,
Drive,
818,
Saint,
Dennis,
Drive
and
2919
Doncaster
Drive,
Mr
Morgan.
You
want
to
give
us
the
quick
and
easy
on
all
of
those.
Yes,.
M
Sir,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council,
the
the
one
that
has
a
little
bit
more
detail
to.
It
is
17
Magazine
Street.
This
is
a
rezoning,
the
other
ones
are
actual.
There
are
actually
two
rezonings
and
then
the
others
are
zonings
for
newly
annexed
property.
But
17
magazine
street
is
across
the
street
from
some
of
the
housing
for
the
Robert
Mills
Manor
development,
and
it
is
to
the
east
of
the
old
city
jail
and
it
is
act.
M
This
request
is
actually
coming
from
the
folks
who've
done
the
Redevelopment
at
the
old
city
jail
and
they
are
requesting
a
rezoning
from
dr2f
to
limited
business,
to
use
this
structure,
that
is
a
single
house
for
potentially
office
use
and
also
Food
Service
type
use,
and
we
have
been
doing
some
analysis
of
this
request
and,
of
course
it's
been
a
Planning
Commission,
it's
in
our
neighborhood
designation
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
so
that
doesn't
preclude
this
type
of
use.
This
is
an
aerial
image
of
the
property.
There.
M
You
see
the
old
city
jail
to
the
west
and
some
of
Robert
Mills
Banner
to
the
north
and
the
neighborhood
recommendations
from
the
comprehensive
plan.
This
is
a
view
of
the
house
on
the
street
and
traditional
Charleston
single
house.
It's
adjacent
to
some
other
parking
areas
as
parking
areas
actually
on
both
sides,
as
well
as
on-street
parking
in
the
surrounding
area.
There's
the
parking
lot
between
it
and
the
old
jail,
and
here
to
some
of
the
other
businesses
in
the
area
that
there
are
some
so.
A
M
M
It
was
previous
or
currently
it
is
currently
zoned
dr2,
which
is
a
residential
designation.
It
had
grandfather
status
as
the
funeral
home
and
the
request
is
to
take
it
to
limited
business,
which
of
course,
would
not
allow
late
night
use
like
you
see,
on
King
Street,
with
General
business,
limited
business
limits
the
hours
of
operations
no
later
than
11
pm,
but
it
does
allow
a
greater
number
of
uses,
such
as
offices
and
Retail
use
and
restaurants.
Things
like
that
this
is
in
our
comprehensive
plan,
a
city
center,
so
everything
isn't
conformist.
M
With
that
here's
an
aerial
image
of
the
property,
the
building
essentially
fills
the
entire
site,
which
is
not
uncommon
in
our
King
Street
business
district
and
again
it's
our
city
center
recommendation
from
the
comprehensive
plan.
Here's
an
image
of
the
property,
a
two-story
structure,
and
here
it
is
a
little
bit
further
away
and
from
down
the
street
in
the
other
direction
and
Planning
Commission
did
review
this
and
also
recommended
for
approval
of
this
rezoning
as
well.
M
M
This
is
a
former
residence
that
has
commercial
use
in
it.
Now
it
was
zoned
in
the
county
as
a
commercial
as
a
commercial
operation,
and
it
would
come
in
the
city
as
limited
business,
which
you
see
is
on
either
side
of
it,
so
it's
compatible
with
the
surrounding
Zone
and
it's
already
in
the
city.
This
is
an
image
that
shows
us
in
the
neighborhood.
M
Edge
recommended
area
and
lb
is
compatible
with
neighborhood
Edge,
and
that's
just
the
description
of
neighborhood
Edge,
and
here
we
have
an
image
of
the
property
again
residential,
look
to
it
and
already
a
commercial
business
in
it
and
Planning
Commission
did
recommend
eight
to
zero.
For
that
it'll
be
Zoning
for
that
property.
Then
we
move
on
to
some
other
residential
annexations.
This
is
on
Jasmine
Road,
1708,
Jasmine
Road.
This
would
come
in
the
city,
it's
Str,
it's
not
a
short-term
rental.
M
It's
a
single
and
two
family
residentials,
but
that
stands
for
it's
a
little
bit
older
term
than
our
zoning
ordinance
and
it
does
have
a
duplex
on
the
property.
That's
why
it
would
come
in
this
Str
as
opposed
to
sr1,
and
it's
in
our
Suburban
designated
area
in
our
future
land
use
and
here's
an
image
of
the
property.
You
can
see
the
two
different
staircases
leading
to
the
property
to
the
house
and
Planning
Commission
recommended
this
as
well.
M
Then
we
move
on
to
1349,
Ashley,
Hall
Road
and
that's
a
single
family
residential.
It
was
R4
and
the
county
would
come
into
the
city
as
sr1
which
is
compatible
and
matches
the
lot
size
of
the
surrounding
areas
and
we'll
just
zip
through
that,
the
image
of
it
there
and
then
we've
got
secession
Bill
Road.
This
is
1648
secessionville
Road,
it's
about
a
half
acre
lot.
It
has
City
of
Charleston
around
it
and
those
properties
are
also
sr1.
So
it
would
come
into
the
city
as
sr1
to
be
compatible
to
surrounding
zoning.
M
It
is
in
the
low
impact
and
conserved
area,
but
because
of
its
lot
width,
it
would
be
difficult
to
subdivide
it
again
and
that's
not
the
intent
of
the
ant
person
annexing
it.
So
we
feel
comfortable
with
the
sr1
for
that
property
and
that's
the
low
impacting
preserve
recommendation.
Here's
an
image
of
the
property
there
and
the
house,
that's
on
it
and
Planning
Commission
did
endorse
that.
Then
we
moved
to
Orange
Grove
Road
1408
Orange,
Grove
Road,
and
this
is
next
to
apartment,
building
right
there
off
of
Orange
Grove.
M
M
And
then
we
move
on
to
818
Saint
Dennis
Drive
in
West
Ashley,
which
is
it
was
residential
in
Charleston
County
and
we
come
in
the
city
as
sr1
and
that
matches
the
surrounding
properties
to
the
rear
and
either
side
and
across
the
street.
And
then
we
have
in
our
Suburban
Edge
designation
in
our
comprehensive
plan,
and
no
that
was,
it
should
say
Suburban
as
you
apologize
for
that,
but
it
is
in
the
zoning
is
compatible
with
what
we
have
in
our
comprehensive
plan
and
sr1
for
that
property.
M
And
then
we
move
Planning
Commission
to
recommend
for
that
and
then
finally,
we
have
on
Doncaster
Drive
2919
a
recent
annexation
sr1,
which
is
the
surrounding
zoning
in
the
area,
and
that
is,
it,
isn't
low,
impacting
conserved.
But
it's
a
smaller
lot,
so
it
couldn't
be
further
subdivided.
So
we
felt
comfortable
with
sr1
and
Planning
Commission.
Did
that
as
well
and
recommended
it
eight
to
zero.
A
O
Sir,
a
point
of
information
I
mean
I'm,
not
on
Council,
but
I
do
have
a
point
of
information
in
terms
of
of
the
reason
why
the
May,
9th
2010
23
minutes
and
not
on
the
agenda,
how
do
you
go
from
old
minutes
to
new?
How
do
you
go
from
old
business
to
new
business
I'm,
trying
to
figure
that
one
out
from
the
chair,
because
you
advance
the
agenda
I'm,
asking
a
chair,
the
question.
A
O
Okay,
so
basically,
your
zoning
policies
affect
the
the
the
the
the
lines
how
they're
drawn
10
years
from
now
and
I
think
that
this
process,
in
my
opinion,
undermines
civil
rights
of
people
within
our
community,
because
you
don't
factor
in
with
these
ownings
and
these
annexations
values.
It's
not
a
part
of
it,
not
a
financial
hardship
or
anything
is
considered.
O
Every
warrant
signed
everything
was
signed
was
signed
in
a
local
Zone
area
and
if
the
mayor
is
going
to
make
a
public
statement
about
people
and
local
areas
in
terms
of
their
civil
rights,
their
constitutional
rights
to
get
this
Council
notice,
where
the
ordinances
is
and
processing
innocent
until
proven
guilty.
In
all
local
zoning
ordinances.
A
P
A
Q
Yes,
I
would
ask
Thomas
Morgan
the
president
on
the
to
Radcliffe,
Street
I,
know
that's
where
the
Smith
Funeral
Home
used
to
be
and
they
moved
to
North
Charleston.
Yes,
I
did
the
neighborhood
association.
There
was
it
contacted,
but
the
change
that's
going
to
take
place,
but
what's
going
to
be
taking
place
there
and
also
right
next
to
it,
is
the
Catholic
Church?
Q
M
About
yes,
sir,
so
yes,
sir,
it
is
I'll
get
to
the
map
here.
So,
let's
see
here
we
go
so
there
is
another
partial
in
between
yet
and
then
there's
a
building
that
backs
up
to
the
Catholic
church.
Both
of
those
Parcels
are
still
dr2,
so
I
think
they'll
have
a
little
bit
of
buffering
from
the
Catholic
church.
It
was
my
understanding
that
they
had
been
in
touch
with
the
neighborhood.
N
A
A
M
No,
they
have,
they
have
not
talked
us.
I
think
they've
had
trouble
selling
it.
It's
been
on
the
market
for
several
years
and
you
couldn't
at
present,
but
the
current
zoning
sell
it,
for
instance,
for
an
office,
and
so
they
were
interested
in
maybe
selling
it
for
that
or
for
retail
use
and
again
you
couldn't
sell
it
for
that.
At
present,
Zone
and.
N
As
my
fellow
council
members
will
remember,
if
you
were
here
five
six
seven
years
ago,
and
particularly
council
member
Waring,
this
is
in
the
shadows
of
the
old
city
or
the
old
jail
which
has
now
been
just
about
completely
renovated,
and
you
all
may
remember.
We
spent
hundreds
of
hours
in
these
Chambers
debating
The
Old
City
Jail.
What
to
do
with
it
was
part
of
the
land
swap
with
the
school
for
the
building
Arts.
It
went
on
for
a
long
time.
I
think
that
was
before
my
time.
N
It
was
before
your
time
hard
to
believe.
There
was
a
time
before
that.
But
if,
if
you
haven't
been
there
and
seen
this
renovation,
it
is
spectacular,
it
really
is
spectacular
and,
and
this
piece
of
property
is
a
natural
sort
of
annex
and
use
with
that
property.
So
I
would
highly
recommend
if
you're
wandering
around
particularly
spent
some
of
those
200
hours
debating
what
was
going
on.
Go.
Take
a
look
at
that
renovation
and
I
I
I
I
I
credit,
the
applicant
food
Mr
Oakland
they've
contacted
the
neighbors
they've
contacted
the
neighborhood.
N
They
thought
to
me.
I
think
this
is
completely
consistent
with
what's
going
on
on
Magazine,
Street
and
y'all.
Just
another
preview,
you
may
know
that
Fielding
funeral
home
is
about
to
go
under.
Contract
has
been
perhaps
sold
to
Charleston,
so
that
area
is
going
to
change
a
little
bit
over
there.
This
would
be
a
good
part
of
it,
so
I
I
endorse
it
totally.
Thank.
A
You,
sir,
any
other
comments.
Question
can
I
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
items
one
through
eleven,
second
and
second,
any
further
discussion.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
Next
up
is
approval
of
city
council
minute
from
April,
25th
and
I'll.
Just
note
that
we
take
the
minutes
as
we
get
them
done
by
the
clerk's
office,
who
does
an
excellent
job,
but
sometimes
they
do
run
a
meeting
behind
any
any
additions,
deletions
or
changes
to
the
minutes.
A
B
O
I
I
can't
use
the
phone
for
some
strange
reason,
but
I
want
to
say
something
about
Chief
Reynolds.
He
he
we
were
the
tractors
on
many
issues,
but
he
was
always
Fifth
and
I.
Always
I.
Don't
talk
about
a
man
that
ain't
around,
but
I
would
say
that
he
was
a
good
cat.
I
really
enjoyed
debating
the
issues
with
him
and
he
was
Spirited
in
his
debates.
He
went
thin
skin
like
many
people,
but
what
I
would
say
the
night
is
the
FBI
is
in
North
Charleston.
O
The
FBI
has
qualified
immunity.
The
FBI
got
it
wrong
on
a
black
man
in
Charleston
County
and
humiliated
his
family.
The
FBI
did
Brandon
Mayfield
in
lied
on
Brandon
Mayfield.
The
FBI
is
a
corrupt
organization,
in
particular
when
it
comes
to
Fred,
Hampton,
Dr,
King
and
everybody
else.
Black
I
know
throwing
a
mayor
stand
with
the
FBI
against
black
people,
I
get
real
nervous
and
then
ask
them
for
their
vote.
You
gonna
ask
me
for
my
vote.
Senator
Scott's
up
there
talking
about
he
going
to
post
International
policies
on
drugs.
O
Well,
70
of
the
country
in
America,
is
on
Drugs.
America
is
the
biggest
consumer
of
drugs
in
the
world.
How
you
gonna,
stop
something
that
in
your
country
and
blame
Pope,
Black
Folk
on
the
corner,
for
it
blame
them
black
and
brown
people
for
your
problem.
You
getting
high,
not
us,
you've
been
getting
high
for
50
years,
not
us,
but
you
want
to
put
us
in
jail.
He
was
a
scapegoat
to
America
into
the
world.
O
Tell
Senator
Scott
that
he
ain't
from
the
hood
left
the
hood
a
long
time
ago
and
never
came
back
and
many
of
y'all
left
and
never
came
back
quit
blaming
our
children
they're,
not
educated.
They
have
no
skill
set.
What
are
they
going
to
do?
Work
for
Google
work
for
Boeing
Boeing,
basically
robbing
the
Department
of
Defense
it's
on
16
minutes,
robbing
them
blind.
O
Well,
he
ain't
talking
about
that.
He
talked
about
some
poor
black
kids
from
his
old
neighborhood.
He
putting
down
to
put
in
prison
I'm
sick
of
black
people,
sitting
there
with
white
folk
lying
to
them
that
we
actually
like
going
to
prison
in
jail
and
being
humiliated.
We
don't
we
don't
like
that.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
invite
me
a
talk,
though:
the
FBI
against
black
people
he's
a
cow.
O
S
S
I
agree
see,
so
what
you're
receiving
is
the
notice.
So
what
we've
gone
over
so
far
is
we've
gone
over
the
letters
written
to
rossapel
about
me
and
why
the
road
should
be
closed,
keeping
the
school
children
away,
it's
not
a
cut
through.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
cutting
through
next.
We
went
over
the
law
last
week.
The
law
says
you
cannot
close
a
road
without
an
order
from
City
Council.
S
There
is
no
order
from
city
council.
What
there
is
is
an
order
to
barricade
the
roads
which
Mr
McQueeney
said
is
temporary.
This
happened
in
1976.
temporary
has
come
and
gone.
It's
also
against
the
rules
to
dig
up
the
road
and
plant
trees.
Where
there's
a
barricade,
you
can't
do
any
of
those
things
so
I'm
not
quite
sure
why,
after
coming
up
on
three
years,
repeated
visits
to
the
city
council
I've
never
been
told
why
it's
legal,
how
it's
legal
and
when
it's
going
to
be
resolved,
am
I
ever
going
to
get
anything
in
writing.
S
Mayor
telling
me
why
the
roads
are
closed,
am
I
going
to
ever
get
anything
in
writing.
Will
the
letter
of
apology
for
saying
I've
lost
my
mind
for
somebody.
That's
never
met
me
and
that
would
be
Ross
of
hell.
He
did
it
right.
I've!
Never
lied
to
you.
Mayor
Tom
Finnegan
lied
to
you,
Ross
Appel
said
the
roads
were
open.
How
can
a
road
be
open
if
they've
got
trees
in
the
middle
of
them,
so
I'm
still
waiting
to
find
out
why
we
did
a
traffic
study?
Traffic
study
showed
exactly
what
I
said.
S
It's
the
neighborhood
going
through.
You
know
how
they
could
have
saw
this
through
the
gate
just
put
a
gate
if
people
are
cutting
through
put
a
gate
at
the
other
in
the
neighborhood
with
a
remote
control.
That's
all
you
need
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
gets
remote
control.
Gate
opens
and
closes
boom
everybody's
happy.
Why
is
my
94
year
old
father
having
to
suffer
through
five
pounds
amount
of
traffic
thanks?
Sir?
Thank
you,
sir
mohammedi.
B
T
T
So
we
have
to
work
and
we
want
to
fight
crime
and
stop
trying
and
really
prepare
respect
to
a
man
like
Chief
rental.
We,
we
must
stop
these
kind
of
advertisements
in
our
business.
We
preach
every
Sunday
Friday,
the
Muslim
on
Friday,
the
Jews
on
Saturday
and
the
Christian
on
Sunday.
The
devil
is
easy,
and
yet
we
are
selling
devil
food
in
our
grocery
store.
Thank
you.
H
Community
members
Council
on
your
agenda
this
evening
is
an
extension
or
Amendment
to
the
contract
or
the
racial
bias
assessment.
Audit
urge
you
to
pass
that
also,
while
we're
In
This
Moment,
reflecting
on
Chief
Reynolds
passing,
we
need
to
hold
up
the
fact
that
the
audit
is
proceeding.
You
know
Thursday
evening
there
at
6
pm
at
the
downtown
library
will
be
a
community
meeting,
Community
Forum,
where
the
community
is
involved
and
invited
I
went
to
the
session
on
last
Saturday.
H
V
Thank
you
for
having
me
again,
I.
Think
you
recognize
me.
I
I
have
two
quick
topics:
I'm
here
to
praise
city
council
and
the
mayor,
I'm
telling
you
the
impact
that
you
made
with
the
intellicheck
scanner
program
worked.
It
really
worked
and
to
quote
our
good
friend
to
Chief,
he
said
if
you
can
make
an
impact
on
underage
drinking
you'll
make
an
impact
on
excessive
drinking
and
that's
what
has
happened
so
I
need
help.
V
Now,
when
this
program
ends
how
to
move
it
forward,
we've
got
to
find
a
way
and
it
can't
be
left
up
to
the
business
owners
just
to
chime
in
and
maybe
we
do
it,
and
maybe
we
don't
do
it.
I'll
keep
doing
it,
but
we
need
help.
We
need
direction
from
the
city.
I'll
get
you
a
group
of
business
owners.
Whatever
you
need,
we
need
to
move
it
forward,
at
least
for
the
late
night.
Business
district
it'd
be
great
to
go
city-wide,
but
please
keep
this
program,
keep
it
moving
forward.
V
The
second
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
King
Street
closure,
another
great
success,
the
King
Street
lane
closure
a
great
success.
I
was
on
King
Street
on
Cinco
de
Mayo
night.
It
was
crazy,
I've,
never
seen
the
population
and
like
it
has
been.
If
you
hadn't
done
what
you've
done,
we
would
have
had
major
issues,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
be
tweaked.
There's
some
business
owners
that
are
getting
hurt
and
affecting
it,
because
it's
closing
at
six
o'clock
I
think
it
needs
to
move
around
eight
o'clock.
V
The
police
department
does
an
incredible
job
of
putting
up
the
barriers
and
things,
but
I
think
they
can
shrink
the
timeline
close
it
at
eight,
put
the
barricades
up
by
nine
and
you're
good
to
go
talk
to
some
business
owners,
the
retail
business
owners,
which
I
am
not
one
I'm
a
Restaurant
Hospitality.
It
doesn't
really
affect
us,
but
it
does.
If
you
come
down
and
have
dinner
at
five
o'clock,
because
you
get
a
boot
or
something
that
happens
at
six
o'clock,
we
need
to
slide
that
back
a
little
bit.
But
it's
a
great
program.
V
G
Bob
O'brien
10
studs
course
Shadow
Moss,
just
along
with
what
we
were
saying:
Chief
Reynolds,
Chief,
Greenberg,
we've
we've
been
blessed
with
real
leadership
or
nothing
now
and
all
the
others
on
the
long
line.
Long
blue
line
here
to
protect
us
every
day,
May
or
unlike
you,
I,
attended
the
informational
meeting
led
by
councilman
Peter
Shaheed,
and
thank
you
so
for
it
on
the
proposed
joint
venture
development
of
Rittenberg,
sumar,
Town,
Old,
Town,
Road
triangle,
property
owned
by
the
City
of
Charleston
and
an
overflow
jam-packed
room
of
West
Ashley
residence.
G
Not
one
single
person
voiced
strong
approval
for
the
landmark
proposal,
which
will
cost
45
million
tax
dollars
to
implement
and
does
virtually
nothing
to
positively
address
the
dangerous
traffic
at
the
intersection,
a
scaled
down
version
costing
a
little
less
but
adding
a
high-rise
garage
as
opposed
to
an
underground
prize
which
still
keeps
landmarks.
High
density,
multi-storied,
seven
buildings
and
no
those
buildings
eliminating
the
sight
lines
on
the
merging
traffic
on
the
most
dangerous
traffic
interchange
of
West
Ashley
is
development
at
its
worst.
G
This
property
was
purchased
by
the
city
to
address
the
traffic
problems,
to
create
a
low
density.
Bucolic
visually
pleasing
entrance
way
to
West
Ashley
with
a
park
and
a
small
Civic
building.
This
does
none
of
that
giving
Landmark
20
to
45
million
of
Charleston
citizens
tax
dollars
to
create
a
high
density
traffic
disaster
on
land.
The
city
owns
is
absurd
and
life-threatening,
if
you
insist
on
spending
more
tax
dollars,
how
about
increasing
police
patrols
on
West
Ashley
streets
which
are
currently
experiencing
nightly
car
break-ins
and
tests
or
purchasing
additional
fire
time.
A
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
and
sharing
your
comments.
We
really
appreciate
it.
So
next
up
is
our
petitions
and
Communications
section.
We
have
an
appointment.
I
would
like
to
call
on
Robert
Summerfield,
just
with
a
reminder
to
council
members
about
committee
that
we're
getting
trying
to
fill
Robert.
Thank.
W
You
mayor
just
real
quick
I,
want
to
say
a
quick
thank
you
to
everyone
on
the
every
member
of
council
who
supplied
a
name
for
the
advisory
panel
for
the
zoning
rewrite.
However,
having
said
that,
we
do
have
a
few
members
who
have
yet
to
provide
a
name
and
that
deadline
has
come
and
gone
so
I'm
asking
if,
if
you
have
not
yet
sent
me
a
name
for
someone,
you
would
like
to
sit
on
that
panel.
W
Please
do
so
by
the
end
of
the
week,
we'd
like
we
have
the
Consultants
coming
back
to
town
next
month
at
just
a
couple
weeks
from
now
and
we'd
like
to
set
up
that
first
meeting
of
that
advisory
panel,
when
the
consultant
team
is
in
town,
so
just
another
plug.
If
you
have
not
yet
had
an
opportunity
to
recommend
someone,
please
do
so.
Thank
you,
sir.
We.
A
Know
you
want
to
have
your
District
represented
on
this.
It's
really
an
important
committee
over
the
next
year
to
help
input
and
oversee
this
planning.
This
zoning
rewrite
it's
a
major
rewrite.
So
please
send
us
your
recommendations
by
Friday.
We
do
have
one
appointment
for
the
citizens:
police,
advisory,
Council,
Mr,
Jamie
Khan.
We
have
a
motion
council,
member
Sheila.
X
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
I'm.
Certainly
in
support
of
Jamie
Khan
I
saw
the
the
background.
That's
good
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I
know
we're
going
to
have
high
school
representative
rolling
off
and
we
have
never
had
one
from
James
Island
high
school
or
West
Ashley
High
School,
our
two
largest
high
schools
and
it
sure
would
be
nice
to
have
the
schools
that
represent
the
most
constituents
to
have
a
representative
on
here.
So
I
hope
we'll
think
about
that.
As
we
have
a.
A
High
school
I'm
looking
for
somebody,
if
you
got
somebody
in
mind,
you
want
to
nominate,
please
send
me
their
name
and
info
okay.
That'd
be
great!
Thank
you.
Yeah
all
right,
any
more
comments
on
Miss
on
Jamie,
Khan
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
and
next
Miss
Copeland.
Are
you
going
to
do
this?
Mediation,
presentation
or
maglie
is
please
come
forward.
Y
Y
Under
this
agreement,
the
owner
will
be
required
to
rebuild
an
exact
replica
for
as
close
to
an
exact
exact
replica
of
the
historic
Freedmen's
cottage,
which
was
located
on
the
property.
Unfortunately,
it
was
demolished
without
approval,
but
after
significant
efforts
between
our
city
staff
and
the
the
applicant,
we
have
a
design
which
we
think
will
will
be
a
successful
rebuild
of
what
was
there
and
we're
requesting
your
approval
for
this.
Y
Y
Under
the
the
current
zoning
code,
the
failure
to
have
the
permit
could
incur
a
daily
penalty
for
building
without
a
permit.
But
this
allows
us
to
allows
the
applicant
to
rebuild
what
was
there
and
unfortunately,
our
zoning
code
is
lacking
in
terms
of
something
more
perhaps
punitive.
But
we're
going
to
look
into
addressing
that
with
the
zoning
rewrite.
U
I
I
understand
that,
but
a
part
of
the
I'm
not
trying
to
undo
the
mediated
agreement
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
clear
on
this.
Did
we
have
the
ability,
under
the
current
zoning
ordinances,
that
the
law,
the
unlawful
demolition
of
this
property,
because
I
understand
is
application
for
demolition
was
denied,
but
the
demolition
proceeded?
Anyhow,
if
that's
the
case,
why
was
it
not
a
penalty
imposed
as
part
of
this
mediated
agreement?
If
we
have
the
ability
to
impose
a
penalty.
Y
U
But
in
a
mediated
agreement
you
have
the
latitude
to
be
able
to
conclusive.
This
is
an
agreement.
This
is
not
a
result
of
a
court
decision
even
from
an
administrative
Court,
you
have
the
ability
to
impose
a
penalty.
I
mean
this
is.
This
seems
to
me
very
blatant.
A
person
that
makes
an
application
is
specifically
denied
a
demolition
and
the
demolition
proceeds
anyhow
and
I
know.
U
I
I
agree
with
the
idea
that
we
were
going
ahead
and
making
rebuild
a
replica,
but
the
idea
that
we
can
I
mean
this
is
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
ordinances
we
have
in
a
book.
Is
that
if
you
can
demolish
something,
you've
got
to
get
approval?
If
you
continue
to
proceed
to
demolish
it,
then
you
just
you
walk
away.
I
mean
that's
what
I'm
a
little
confused
on
on
this
process.
Z
Z
U
U
Reporting
and
I'm
glad
you
voted
that
up
with
Copeland,
but
we
if
a
person
is
doing
something
in
violation
of
an
ordinance
and
in
particular
after
an
application,
has
been
denied
and
proceeds
with
that.
There's
got
to
be
some
teeth
to
the
ability
to
live
with
some
kind
of
punitive
measure
against
the
applicant
once
they
violate
a
direct
denial
of
a
demolition.
N
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
We
probably
need
to
work
on
that
part
of
our
code.
Yes,
sir,
my
question
is
more
to
the
settlement.
Is
there
a
hard
deadline
against
which
this
work
needs
to
be
completed,
and
if
it's
not,
is
there
a
punitive
provision
in
the
mediated
settlement
agreement
for
not
completing
this
work
within
a
certain
period
of
time
to
the
satisfaction
of
our
planning
department
and
our
building
department?
And
anybody
else
is
going
to
go
out
there
and
look
at
what
was
a
beautiful
old
historical
that
needed
renovation?
N
Get
that
but
I
mean
we're
here
to
approve
a
settlement
for
someone
who,
or
somebody
did
something
they
shouldn't
have
done,
whether
it
was
the
owner
or
one
of
his
agents
or
employees,
and
now
we're
going
to
prove
a
settlement
that
is
open-ended.
I
mean
how
does
this
end?
What
what
do,
what
tool
do
we
have
to
make
sure
this
gets
done.
N
Y
A
N
N
I
I
get
it
all
that
I.
Just
if
you
come
back
to
us
a
year
from
now
or
two
years,
whatever
the
time
frame
is
and
say,
nothing's
happened
over
there
we're
going
to
have
a
tool
to
do
something
about
it,
yeah.
So
what
do
you
recommend?
We
I
don't
ask
for
legal
advice
on
possession,
but
is
it
a
motion
to
defer,
pending
an
agreement,
add
or
provision
added
in
the
agreement
that
there's
a
backstop
against
this.
A
N
Well,
the
question
would
be
the
timing
and
the
provision
on
the
back
side.
I
think
we
need
to
give
our
team
a
little
bit
of
time
to
think
about
how
long
they
get
and
what
happens
if
they
don't
complete
the
work
in
time
in
terms
of
some
monetary
provision,
penalty
or
whatever
I
think
I,
don't
want
to
amend
it
on
the
floor
here,
I
think
giving
Council
some
time
to
talk
to
her.
That's.
A
N
N
A
A
In
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
to
your
eyes.
Have
it
next
is
an
update
by
our
chief
Innovation
officer,
Tracy
McKee,
on
the
City
of
Charleston,
open
data
policy
and
Innovation
and
I
don't
want
to
steal
her
Thunder,
but
we
had
a
visit
last
week
by
an
organization
which
is
sponsored
by
Michael
Bloomberg.
That's
called
what
works
cities
that
measures
how
active
a
city
is
in
its
Innovation
and
use
of
data.
AA
AA
So
I
wanted
to
start
off
with
kind
of
where
we're
headed
this
year,
so
we
created
a
2023
action
plan.
This
plan
is
published
and
available
on
the
website.
So
there's
a
link
here
on
the
slide,
so
you
can
go
and
check
that
out.
There
are
we
kind
of
broke
it
into
three
different
sections,
focusing
on
open
data
which
I'm
going
to
really
focus
on
tonight,
Innovation
and
Performance
Management,
and
so
the
other
things
I'm
going
to
touch
on
briefly
are
the
city
data
Alliance.
AA
You
all
have
heard
about
the
City
Daily
city
data
Alliance.
We
engaged
in
that
program.
Last
year
there
were
kind
of
two
facets
of
that
engagement,
one
focusing
on
procurement
Excellence,
that's
where
the
recommendations
for
our
procurement
limits
came
from.
So
you
all
have
seen
that
the
other
piece
of
that
was
developing
a
Citywide
data
strategy.
I
bring
that
up
simply
because
that
strategy
or
the
recommendations
for
that
strategy
are
really
woven
into
the
action
plan
for
this
year,
as
well
as
the
open
data
report
and
before
I
forget.
AA
There
are
two
documents
that
will
be
coming
to
you
this
week:
number
one
as
part
of
the
open
data
policy.
I
provide
you
with
an
open
data
report
every
year,
so
that
will
be
in
your
inbox
later
this
week.
But
you're
going
to
see
the
highlights
tonight
and
the
second
one
is
a
draft
of
the
of
this
data
strategy
that
I'm
going
to
touch
on.
Very
so
briefly,
and
then
the
mayor
mentioned
the
what
work
City
certification.
AA
This
provides
a
benchmark
for
us
to
be
able
to
understand
how
we're
performing
in
our
use
of
data
practices
in
the
city.
So
some
good
stuff.
So
you
know
I
like
to
measure
stuff.
This
is
actually
in
the
action
plan,
so
I'm
not
going
to
Dive
In
Too
Deep.
But
hopefully
you
all
know
that
we
did
win
two
Awards
last
year,
which
is
pretty
exciting
and
it's
actually
for
the
public
meeting
portal
that
we
launched
during
covid.
So
that's
pretty
exciting
a
couple
other
things
here.
AA
If
I
talked
about
all
these
I'd
be
up
here
for
probably
five
hours,
but
yes,
but
I'm
more
than
happy
to
you
know
dive
into
any
of
these.
If
you
all
have
specific
questions
so
again,
this
open
data
report
is
coming
to
you
this
week,
but
the
highlights
are
January
of
2021
the
mayor
city
council.
You
all
adopted
an
open
data
policy
and
I
hope.
What
you
see
by
the
end
of
these
few
slides
is
how
impactful
that
policy
has
been
in
strengthening
our
data
practices
as
an
organization.
AA
So
the
first
thing
we
were
able
to
do
once
that
policy
was
adopted
as
we
we
created
the
city's
first
comprehensive
data
inventory
really
understanding
what
we
actually
have
as
an
organization
that
inventory
is
also
published,
so
that
was
really
a
significant
first
step
so
last
year
what
we
really
focused
on
was
creating
a
new
inventory
tool.
So
once
we
had
the
initial
inventory,
making
it
a
lot
easier
for
departments
to
update
their
inventory,
so
this
is
a
web-based
internal
tool
that
departments
can
use.
AA
We
created
a
public-facing
inventory
dashboard
I'll
show
you
a
snapshot
of
that
here
in
just
a
second.
This
is
the
first
year
departments
have
submitted
data
publishing
plans
to
what
that
means
is
departments
have
simply
identified.
Data
sets
that
are
ripe
for
sharing
with
the
public
and
they've
committed
to
actually
publishing
those
this
year.
So
we
created
a
dashboard
that
the
public
can
also
track
our
progress.
There
see
what
departments
have
submitted
plans,
what
they
plan
to
publish
and
track
the
progress.
AA
Here's
just
a
snapshot
of
the
data
inventory
dashboard,
so
you
can
see
what
how
much
is
you
know
from
each
department
and
whatnot
so
and
there's
a
link
on
the
slide
too.
If
you
want
to
check
that
out,
another
piece
is
engaging
with
the
community,
so
in
March
we
launched
our
second
annual
open
day-to-day
program.
This
is
an
international
celebration
that
really
celebrates
the
use
of
open
data
across
the
world,
so
this
year
we
had
presentations
from
both
staff
and
residents
on
how
they
use
open
data.
AA
How
open
data
is
used
to
support
decision
making
telling
stories
through
data,
as
well
as
providing
some
tutorials
on
how
to
use
open
data?
So
some
of
the
recommendations
that'll
also
be
in
this
report
they
go.
The
report
goes
into
these
in
a
lot
more
detail,
but
I
did
want
to
just
kind
of
Point
them
out
to
you
is
create
an
open
data,
advisory,
Council
kind
of
a
neutral
body
that
could
really
provide
some
feedback
on
the
report
on
how
how
good
we're
doing
it.
AA
Implementing
the
open
data
policy
that
you
all
put
forth,
creating
a
chief
data
office
or
position,
someone
who
thinks
about
data
as
an
asset
for
the
city,
someone
whose
job
is
to
do
that.
Every
single
day,
additional
open
data
user
guidance,
we
plan
on
launching
for
I'm
sorry
three
more
video
tutorials
this
year
and
then
how
do
we?
How
do
we
track?
AA
You
know
the
use
of
open
data,
so
we've
already
actually
implemented
that
and
it's
part
of
our
open
data
platform,
so
you
can
go
and
see
all
the
data
that's
published
and
what
the
interest
is
and
all
those
data
sets.
So
we
can
help.
You
know,
keep
moving
this
this
effort
forward
really
do
we
build
dashboards
on
those
data
sets
that
are
most
valuable
to
the
public.
AA
I
am
not
going
to
go
through
all
these
again.
I
mentioned
this,
though
this
is
the
draft
data
strategy
that
is
coming
out
of
our
work
from
the
city
data
Alliance
again,
there's
a
kind
of
eight
action
items
that
are
part
of
this
draft
and
they
are
really
interwoven
into
the
action
plan
and
our
open
data
report.
So
I
just
want
to
call
your
attention
to
it
and
you'll
see
you'll,
see
it
drafted
at
like
I
said
later
this
week
in
your
inbox,
so
getting
to
the
what
work,
City
certification
again
the
mayor
indicated.
AA
This
is
a
way
that
we
can
measure
how
we
are
using
data
and
evidence
to
improve
the
lives
of
residents.
So
what
what
is
this
thing?
So
it
is
really
the
international
standard
of
Excellence
for
well-managed
data-driven
local
government
and
why?
Why
do
they
have
this
thing?
It's
really
to
help
government
decision
makers
regularly
and
effectively
use
evidence
and
data
to
improve
the
lives
of
our
residents.
AA
How
do
they
do
it?
There
is.
There
are
43
criteria
that
are
established
through
the
what
work
City
program,
and
so
we
are
evaluated
on
all
43
of
those
criteria
to
see
how
we,
if
we've
implemented
them
and
allows
us
to
see
how
we
compare
to
other
to
other
cities
as
well,
and
so
those
43
criteria
help
provide
a
road
map
for
us
of
how
we
strengthen
our
data
practices
in
the
city.
AA
So
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
what
our
journey
has
been.
This
is
not
a
brand
new
initiative.
We
actually
applied
to
be
part
of
this
initiative
back
in
2016..
You
can
see
on
this
timeline.
We
did
an
assessment
in
17,
19,
21
and
finally,
in
2023
and
I've
just
called
out
some
of
the
different
organizations
that
really
have
been
crucial
in
helping
us
and
as
an
organization
improve
our
data
practices.
AA
So
I
mentioned
those
different
assessments.
This
chart
shows
how
we
have
scored
over
the
years
in
those
assessments,
and
we
are
the
we're
kind
of
that.
First
darker,
like
aqua,
green
color
in
the
chart,
so
you
can
see
in
2017.
We
were
right
about
20,
but
still
performing,
not
quite
as
well
as
other
cities
that
went
through
this
assessment
process.
They
changed
their
criteria
in
2019,
so
everyone
kind
of
dropped
in
there
assessments,
including
us.
AA
We
made
some
progress
again
in
2021
and
so
you'll
see
2023
the
significant
progress
that
we've
made
in
this
assessment
with
the
what
work
cities
program
and
you
might
notice,
we
are
now
over
that
threshold
of
becoming
silver
level
certification
eligible.
So
what
that
means
is
we
now
have
enough
points
or
credits.
If
you
will
to
get
that
certification,
we
got
a
site
visit.
Last
weekend,
we
are
pending
a
a
committee
that
reviews
all
of
the
criteria.
AA
We
will
hear
about
our
final,
whether
we
get
that
certification
or
Not
by
the
end
of
June,
I'm,
told
so,
but
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
really
celebrate
the
progress
that
we
have
made
as
an
organization
and
strengthening
our
data
practices,
and
you
know,
certification
really
isn't
just
for
certification's
sake
either.
So
this
whole
program
is
about
how
do
we,
how
do
we
Implement
policy
programs
and
standards
that
make
sure
that
we
keep
all
this
work
moving
forward?
I'm
not
going
to
be
here
forever.
AA
Other
people
that
are
really
invested
in
this
are
not
going
to
be
here
forever.
So
how
do
we
make
sure
that
all
this
work
continues
to
move
forward
to
to
really
improve
the
lives
of
our
residents
and,
lastly,
I
think
it's
just
an
opportunity
to
pause
and
really
celebrate
all
the
amazing
work.
That's
happening
across
the
whole
organization
to
really
improve
our
data
practices
to
improve
outcome
for
residents.
So
with
that
I'm
happy
to
try
to
answer
any
questions,
you'll
have.
F
AA
Yeah
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
I
think
what
we
see
as
we
as
we
strengthen
our
practices.
We
do
see
improved
outcome
for
residents
and
so
I've
talked
about
open
data,
but
the
what
works?
City,
certification
isn't
just
about
open
data.
It's
about
data
governance,
it's
about
budget
and
finance.
It's
about
results,
driven
Contracting,
it's
about
leadership,
so
we
get
scored
on
a
lot
of
different
categories.
So
it's
really
holistic
approach
to
how
we
actually
treat
and
use
data
as
an
organization
and.
F
I
guess
the
second
follow-up
is
is,
as
that
part
of
that
plan,
to
to
basically
kind
of
investigate
the
data
and
look
at
the
data
in
terms
of
being
more
transparent.
Is
there
a
digital
engagement
plan
because
I
mean
I've
said
this
before
I
feel?
Like
you
know,
our
website
is
the
first
place
that
people
will
will
stop.
AA
Thousand
percent
agree:
we
data
has
to
be
actionable
right
in
order
to
be
impactful,
and
so,
even
though
we're
we're
improving,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
work.
To
do
so.
I
would
I
would
love
to
see
us
even
if
we
get
this
silver
certification
next
month.
That
doesn't
mean
it's.
The
end
of
the
road
I
think
there's
a
there's
a
lot
and,
of
course
I.
Could
we
could
talk?
A
Any
other
questions
so
I
I,
must
admit.
Some
of
this
seems
to
go
over
our
our
heads,
but
it
to
me
one
of
the
bottom
lines
is
that
we
as
a
city
collect
a
lot
of
information
and,
in
my
view,
that
information
belongs
to
the
public
and
that's
just
the
term
open
data
of
the
city,
proactively,
sharing
our
information
with
our
citizens.
They
own
the
information
right,
we're
we're.
A
So
what
has
happened
where,
where
cities
have
been
proactive
about
this,
this
information,
it's
kind
of
a
matter
of
transparency,
of
putting
out
there,
everything
we
know
about
ourselves
and,
and
sometimes
that
shows
your
warts
and
your
challenges
a
little
bit
but
oftentimes.
It
leads
to
creativity,
sometimes
among
citizens.
As
she
said,
two
two
participants
of
our
open
data
looked
at
our
information
and
started
thinking
of
ways
that
they
could
use
our
data
to
help
us
improve
ourselves.
A
You
know
so
it's
it's
just
overall,
a
goal
is
to
be
more
transparent,
but
also
to
provide
information.
So
not
only
our
own
staff,
but
even
the
public
could
help
us.
You
know
with
better
outcomes
over
the
long
run
by
using
the
public
information.
So
thank
you,
Tracy
and
Shannon
Shannon.
Have
you
all
met
Shannon
before
she's,
our
Harvard
fellow
she's,
a
really
smart
young
lady
and
has
been
instrumental
in
all
these
efforts
over.
A
Right,
so
thank
you
for
your
help
and
involvement
in
all
this.
So,
oh
any
other
questions
or
thoughts
so
heading
on.
We
now
thank
you
Tracy
for
that
presentation
and
you'll
be
getting
that
report
later
this
week.
Next
is
our
Council
committee
reports
first
up
committee
on
human
resources,
council,
member
Gregory.
I
I
She
did
the
legwork
and
research
got
the
legal
opinions,
etc,
etc,
and
it's
concluded
that
it
is
in
fact
too
good
to
be
true
and
I
think
that
that
that
was
the
consensus
of
the
the
committee
as
well,
and
you
know
I'd
like
to
really
just
thank
our
director
of
human
resources
for
sticking
to
her
guns
and
coming
up
with
the
kind
of
data
and
information
to
support
our
position.
We
voted
on
nothing
and
that
concludes
my
report.
X
You
Mr
Mayor,
the
committee
on
Recreation
met
Monday
May
15th
at
four
o'clock.
P.M
and
Jason
cronzberg
had
reminded
us
that
we
needed
to
get
our
priority
lists
in
as
far
as
council
members.
So
if
you
would,
please
get
those
I
think
Jason
said,
there's
seven
that
have
been
turned
in
as
of
today,
so
we
still
need
five
of
them.
X
If
you
will
begin
Hanrahan
and
Jessica
Welch
gave
us
an
update
from
the
public
lands
trust
and
they
also
said
they're,
hoping
that
we'll
get
those
lists
very
quickly
and
they
will
be
doing
a
public.
They
will
be
doing
public
opinion
research
with
a
national
polling
group.
If
that
polling
is
favorable,
we
will
pull
together
clear,
concise
language
for
the
ballot.
So
her
overall
recommendation,
she
said
we'll
see
how
things
go,
but
her
overall
recommendation
is
usually
bonds.
X
She
gave
an
example
of
a
60
million
dollar
bond
that
would
cost
the
typical
Charleston
household
55
for
20
years,
but
but
she
said
it
will
choose
a
maximum
amount
for
that.
Bond,
we'll
come
up
with
that
from
the
data
that
we
get
so
the
last
day
to
send
that
information.
For
the
ballot
for
it
to
be
legal
to
go
on,
the
ballot
is
August
15th.
X
X
Then
we'll
have
hopefully
our
second
and
third
readings
we'll
have
in
July
meeting.
So
after
we
assess
which
projects
are
most
popular,
the
trust
Republic
lands
will
put
together
a
campaign.
It'll
conclude
Town
Halls,
some
Facebook
ads,
and
things
like
that
to
get
the
word
out
about
this.
So
after
we
finish
with
that,
Bobby
Collins,
the
president
of
the
friends
for
the
muni
joined
us,
joined
our
meeting,
and
he
had
gone
down
some
things
over
the
last
couple
of
years.
X
That
friends
Community
is
helped
with
or
is
in
the
process
of
contributing
to
financially.
As
far
as
our
municipal
golf
course
in
a
variety
of
ways,
they've
spent
well
over
sixty
thousand
dollars.
Some
of
that
was
four
thousand
for
more
blade
sharpener
for
the
maintenance
Crews.
It
was
7
000
in
new
and
replacement
sprinkler
heads.
They
came
up
with
a
twenty
five
thousand
dollar
Grant
from
Fairways
Foundation.
X
That's
used
to
enhance
the
pond
on
the
holes
12
through
14,
where
they've
got
some
new
Marsh
grasses
out
there
and
they're
also
spending
currently
twenty
five
thousand
dollars
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
Reconstruction
paperwork
for
the
new
bathrooms
that
are
going
on
the
course
so
they've
also
completed,
renovated
or
or
I
guess,
refreshing,
the
friends
of
the
muni
website.
So
if
you
haven't
seen
that
it's
just
friendsofthemuny.com,
it's
a
pretty
good
little
website,
I
showed
a
little
bit
in
our
in
our
meeting.
X
But
if
you
haven't
seen
it,
it
might
be
good
to
take
a
look,
but
some
of
their
plans
for
the
rest
of
2023
is.
They
would
like
to
collaborate
with
us
as
City
Council
Members,
to
increase
and
help
identify
some
youth
groups,
maybe
in
your
individual
districts,
to
get
some
kids
out
for
the
first
time
out
in
the
community
they're
looking
for
kids
groups
that
are
7
to
14
years
old
and
what
they've
done
with
some
of
these
kids
in
the
past
they've
been
out
on
the
Range.
X
But
they've
got
this
big,
pink
hippopotamus
that
you
knock
these
balls
into
and
from
what
I
understand,
the
kids
are
just
going
crazy
about
it.
They're
telling
their
friends
about
it
and
driving
some
interest
in
in
golf
for
kids.
That
may
not
have
had
an
opportunity
to
swing
a
golf
club
if
it
weren't
for
that
program.
X
So
if
you've
got
a
group
of
kids
that
you
want
to
get
involved
in
that
I
know,
Bobby
would
and
any
of
the
any
of
the
staff
or
any
of
the
directors
for
friends
and
Muni
would
love
to
hear
who
you
have
and
they're,
certainly
trying
to
communicate
with
Muni
staff.
Our
recreation
department,
the
city
Finance,
to
develop
a
campus-wide
master
plan
at
the
muni
they've,
got
some
post-course
renovation
ideas
going
on
and,
of
course,
with
the
two
new
Encore
restrooms
they're,
helping
out
with
and
anything
else.
That
needs
to
be
done
out.
X
U
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
good
report,
Mr,
chairman
and
I,
would
urge
you
to
also
receive
a
report
from
the
golf
commission,
okay,
councilman
Parker
and
the
pal
and
I
serve
on
that
commission
and
we're
usually
are
very
good
about
attending
those
meetings.
I
just
want
to
make
one
comment.
One
of
the
recommendations
we
made
at
well.
U
U
So
those
are
the
kind
of
things
that
the
commission
is
very
active
on
and
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
bring
them
into
your
Recreation
committee
to
get
a
report
something
along
those
lines.
I
mean
that's
a
significant
amount
of
loss,
Revenue
that
we
may
be
able
to
capture
now
to
help
with
these
bathrooms
and
other
projects.
They
want
to
do
something
as
simple
as
a
pendola
registration
fee,
so
I
just
want
to
bring
that
to
your
attention.
Yeah.
Thank
you.
AC
AC
If
you
could
touch
on
that
and
then
sometimes
Last
by
that
friends
of
the
muni
and
then
there
was
a
conversation,
some
months
back
into
22
about
Fort
Pemberton
being
done,
and
some
talk
with
the
County
Parks
and
Recreation
of
making
a
bike,
pedestrian
walk
from
Fort
Pemberton,
all
the
way
to
James
Island,
County,
Park,
I,
don't
know
if
Mr
Kronberg
is
still
him,
because
any
movement
on
that
I
know
Council.
Lady
Anna,
Johnson,
Mr
Mayor
was
in
favor
of
that.
But
I
thought
you
know,
bike
pedestrian
pathway.
AD
Response,
I,
don't
have
anything
on
the
bike.
Ped
connection
between
the
two.
We
are
working
through
a
design
contract
to
bring
Phase
One
Fort
Pemberton
construction
documents.
Through
the
process.
We've
done
a
lot
of
community
outreach
in
the
neighborhood.
We
have
a
good
subcommittee
of
neighborhood
Representatives
that
we're
working
with.
So
that's
going
well,
but
I,
don't
know
anything
about
the
bike
bed
connection
project.
A
AC
Council,
member,
where
that's
okay
I
mean
yeah,
that
that
was
going
to
take
a
collaboration
between
multi-jurisdiction
of
government.
That
would
be
the
City
of
Charleston.
Of
course,
the
county
even
Gene,
the
town
of
James
Island.
So
that's
going
to
take
an
effort,
but
I
think
it's
a
effort
worth
having
that's.
AB
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I'll
get
you
more
information
because
we
just
had
our
James
Allen
intergovernmental.
So
we
there
are
a
lot
of
County
projects.
Thanks
to
councilwoman
Honeycutt
coming
in
we've
got
sidewalks
coming
on
Woodland
Shores
from
the
senior
center
just
I
apologize
I,
don't
think
in
the
maps
in
my
head,
but
Camp
Road,
so
we've
connected
basically
Camp
Road
middle
or
the
county
has
my
apologies
from
Camp
Road
Middle
to
the
James
Island
County
Park
they're,
going
down
to
Woodland,
Shores
I,
don't
think
they're
quite
getting
to
Riverland
Terrace!
AB
X
There
is
still
councilman
a
desire
for
the
Pavilion
area,
a
place
for
some
of
the
younger
golfers
to
go
to
a
grab
and
go
type
little
area
as
far
as
food
and
drink.
That
type
of
thing-
and
you
know
that
kind
of
area,
yeah,
there's
still
a
desire,
there's
still
some
some
talk
about
that
and
and
something
we
need
to.
A
Q
Yes,
immune
development
committee
met
on
Thursday,
May,
18th,
3
P.M,
and
we
had
three
different
items
on
the
agenda,
but
nothing
that
we
had
to
vote
on
the
first
agenda.
First
thing
on
agenda
was
proposal
for
the
African-American
Renaissance
District
that
was
deferred
and
it
was
deferred
by
the
individuals,
Bernie
music
director
there
and
then
be
on
to
the
boys
in
commission
appointment.
Q
That
was
explained
by
Mr
Robert
Summerfield
and
he
ran
into
details
and
explained
everything
about
all
these
people
are
appointed
to
the
boys
and
most
everyone
in
the
board
is
all
volunteers.
So
we
have
a
long
discussion
about
that.
So,
if
you
have
any
other
information
you
want
to
know,
you
can
contact
Mr
Summerfield
on
that
and
I3
was
a
from
Urban
League
Mr
open
Meadows.
A
AC
Councilman
Mitchell,
King
and
hugee
drainage
project
that
Grant,
you
know
with
Opera
funds,
and
hopefully
the
mayor
touch
on
it
shortly
that
additional
10
million
dollars,
that's
something
you
and
council
member
James
Lewis
many
of
y'all
may
not
know
this,
but
the
fire
station
at
ugspeed,
kind
of
King
and
hugee,
but
more
on
hugee
Street
Ashley
has
a
John
Boat
to
actually
when,
when
we
have
rain
events,
unsuspecting
motorists
come
to
that
intersection,
they
flood
out
and
they
can't
get
out
and
the
fire.
Our
fire
station
actually
has
a
job
book.
AC
Councilman
Mitchell
says
it
actually
has
a
mode
on
it.
Actually
goes
in
get
them
and
Ferry
them
out.
That's
how
deep
the
water
has
been
in
it,
though
a
problem
for
a
long
time,
so
our
stormwater
team,
the
mayor
of
the
a
legal
team
getting
these
Grant
dollars
and
arpa
money
and
using
them
more
more
effectively.
It's
just
been
frankly,
our
people
ought
to
get
an
award
for
that
a
lot
of
times
when
large
funding
comes
out
of
Washington.
AC
We
always
hear
about
the
bridge
to
nowhere,
but
you
don't
hear
about
the
things
that
are
done
on
a
cost-effective
basis.
This
is
going
to
be
a
big
win-win.
This
Opera
Grant
is
10
million
dollars,
and
the
mayor
is
right.
That's
10
million
that
normally
would
have
come
out
of
our
stormwater
fees
that
now
can
go
across
to
all
different
districts,
we'll
have
and
we'll
maximize
those
dollars
too.
AC
The
Cooper
Jackson
drainage
project
over
on
the
east
side
of
town
kind
of
behind
the
East
Bay
Street
Post
Office
over
there.
It
gets
like
a
river
over
there
the
times
when
it
was
kind
of
like
this
hopeless,
but
help
us
on
the
way
with
grant
funding
like
this
being
applied.
For
if
we
didn't
ask,
if
we
don't
ask,
it,
certainly
won't
get
I
have
to
get
if
Mr
Fountain
and
his
team
so
much
created
on
these
type
type
applications
I
mean
five
years
ago.
AC
We
didn't
have
these
kind
of
applications
that
they
10
years
ago.
We
didn't
have
these
kind
of
applications,
councilman
shealy,
when
you
went
to
our
national
league
of
cities
and
talked
about
getting
grant
writers,
and
you
saw
how
people
were
doing
them
all
over
the
country
that
was
implemented
by
a
man,
counseling
and
talent
like
Mr
Fountain
and
his
team
have
come
on
and
I
can't
tell
you
how
that's
benefiting
our
city
from
a
drainage
perspective,
approval
of
spring
fish
brand
drainage
project,
phase,
five,
that's
a
project!
AC
There's
no
other
drainage
problem
like
project
like
that
in
the
state
of
South
Carolina
I
mean
it
is
not
of
national
proportion.
I
mean
some
of
the
technology.
There
was
used
over
in
the
English
Channel
that
we
now
have
over
here,
obviously
Highway
17,
being
a
major
throwing
carrying
people
to
and
for
Medical
University
and
Europa
Hospital
Medical
District
and
the
like
showham
drive
over
on
James
Island,
which
has
been
a
people
over
there,
needs
to
need
help
again.
Small,
but
drainage
project.
AC
A
Any
further
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
oppose
the
eyes
have
it.
Thank
you.
I
think
I
made
my
remarks
well
enough
at
ways
to
mean,
but
we're
so
pleased
to
have
those
grants
that
one
in
hand
and
one
applied
for
that
I-
think
we'll
get
it's
really
going
to
help
our
efforts
a
lot
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
So
next
up
is
our
committee
on
ways
of
means,
as
amended
any
further
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
A
Have
it
now
for
a
second
reading
I
think
we
got
12
items
up
without
a
motion
to
take
all
12
together.
Anybody
want
to
break
anything
out.
Council
members
take
seven
separately,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
one
through
six
and
eight
through
twelve
together,
exactly
all
right,
any
discussion
on
any
of
those
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
odds
have
it
now
for
third
reading
on
one's.
R
A
J
X
You
Mr
Mayor
I'm
I'm,
concerned
about
this
annexation
on
this
one,
the
the
reason
why,
on
this
being
on
Beastie
Road,
obviously
it
belongs
to
CPW,
Charleston
Water
and
this
little
from
my
understanding.
The
reason
why
we're
bringing
this
into
the
city
is
to
make
it
contiguous
with
the
next
piece
of
property
to
be
brought
into
the
city.
X
X
That
is
not
this
property
we're
talking
about,
but
the
one
that
will
come
because
this
one's
being
annexed,
this
piece
of
property,
obviously
there's
no
real
Advantage,
I,
guess
to
the
city:
they're,
not
paying
taxes
there
as
far
as
CPW
that
type
of
thing.
But
what
concerns
me
is
my
understanding
is
that
the
other
piece
of
property,
if
it's
zoned
in
under
the
comprehensive
plan
they
could
put
up
to
20
units
per
acre
on
there.
X
And
if
I
don't
speak
up
against
this,
and
my
constituents
see
this
horse
farm
going
into
an
apartment
or
condo
complex
and
they
found
out
that
I
voted
to
bring
this
into
the
city
where
it
couldn't
have
been
done
in
the
county.
They're
going
they're
going
to
absolutely
want
to
get
me,
I
mean
I,
so
I
I
have
to
bring
this
up.
It's
just
it's
just
not
fair
to
the
people
that
have
to
travel
up
and
down
Beast
Ferry
Road
up
and
down
Glenn
McConnell
Parkway
people
in
District,
5
and
District,
11
and
I'm.
X
X
The
traffic
is,
is
going,
is
getting
worse
and
worse
and
worse,
and
it's
just
not
fair
to
the
people
that
live
down
there
for
us
to
keep
adding
density
in
the
worst
traffic
areas
in
the
City
of
Charleston,
so
I'm
going
to
vote
against
this
annexation
because
it's
going
to
lead
to
the
other
annexation
coming
up,
and
it
is
the
only
reason
it
is
on
the
agenda
so
and
I'd.
Ask
my
colleagues
to
support
me
in
that
as
well.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
AC
Summerfield
to
maybe
come
to
the
microphone
you
know
for
some
additional
information
Clarity.
This
is
a
parcel
of
land
that
CPW
is
allowed
to
be
annexed
to
facilitate
annexation.
Now
the
the
property
is
currently
zoned.
The
joining
property,
where
the
where
the
horse
farm
is
slash,
was
a
Zone.
What
an
accountant,
Mr
Morgan,
if
you
know.
AC
E
AC
Okay
and
I
think
that's
the
time
to
have
the
debate.
20
units
per
acre-
I-
don't
you
know
that's
just
not
guaranteed
by
anybody
right
now,
so
I
think
when
that
time
coming,
I
really
applaud
you
for
bringing
that
to
the
floor
prior
to
an
annexation
that
may
come.
You
know.
Normally
we
find
out
about
these
things
when
it's
on
our
desk.
In
this
case,
this
strip
has
to
be
annexed.
AC
AC
We
don't
want
that
kind
of
congestion
either
so,
but
when
that
rezoning
should
it
come,
then
I
think
that's
the
time
that
they
have
that
to
beat
so.
But
I
will
say
this
down
on
that
end
of
bees.
Ferry
Road
is
a
goodly
amount
of
development.
Now,
not
not
the
apartments
that
you're
talking
about,
but
the
commercial
shopping
and
and
councilman
so
yeah.
They
even
have
a
new
Parker's
Kitchen.
AC
On
that
end,
but
a
lot
of
that's
actually
in
the
county
and
it
will
give
our
City
an
opportunity
to
be
contiguous
to
a
couple
of
properties
down
there
to
hopefully
to
Annex
to
bring
into
the
City
and
some
undeveloped
property
that
right
now,
if
we're
developing
the
county,
we
just
have
no
say
so
so,
and
I
really
I.
Think
we
all
do
it's
just
not
me.
AC
We
all,
like
our
planning
department,
not
not
casting
dispersions
on
the
county,
because
we
all
work
together,
but
the
awesome
congruencies
that
I
think
we
do
a
little
bit
better
job
of
and
I'll
hear
from
that
from
my
Denzel
County
Council.
So
I
think
the
time
will
come.
You've
put
the
spotlight
on
it
and
if
it
does
come,
I'll
be
right
there
with.
U
You
councilmember
shade
I
just
wanted
to
dovetail
a
little
bit
on
your
comment:
gospel
wearing,
because
the
perfect
example
of
not
annexing
this
property
and
allowing
unanx
properties
to
be
governed
by
the
counties
of
code
goes
through
this
place
on
parsonage
road.
That
was
not
in
the
county
in
that
property.
U
What
that
was
in
the
county
and
we
had
developed
a
partnership
with
the
Public
Service
District
for
a
fire
department
replaced
there
and
then
the
other
partial
of
this
land,
which
was
not
part
of
us
but
separate,
is
allowed
to
be
zoned
and
to
be
built.
A
structured
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
detail
if
it
was
in
direct
contradiction
of
our
plan.
West
Ashley,
we
had
suggested
Bill,
Thayer
and
zone
four,
so
we
lost
control
over
that
property.
U
I
know
Council
repels
involved
in
this
dispute
so
and
actually
these
spot
pockets
of
West
Ashley
is
crucibly
important
that
we
have
some
level
of
consistency.
But
your
point-
and
you
and
I,
discuss
that
earlier
than
today
that
point
about
allowing
how
many
units
on
there
or
something
we
need
to
hit
the
pause
button
on
and
say
that
when
at
the
time
comes
over,
but
that
happens,
I
think
you
can
get
a
lot
of
support
without
fun.