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City of Charleston Council Meeting - November 26,2019
C
Everyone,
please
bow
your
heads,
dear
Heavenly
Father.
We
we
thank
you
for
this
day.
We
thank
you
for,
for
the
many
blessings
that
we
have.
We
thankful.
We
are
thankful
for
many
many
things,
as
everybody
looks
towards
Thanksgiving
later
on
in
this
week,
and
we
we
ask
that
Lord,
you
remind
us
of
of
just
what
Thanksgiving
means
and,
as
we
spend
time
with
family,
we
think
about
our
loved
ones.
C
You
helped
bring
out
civility
humility,
compassion.
We
asked
that
you
be
with
us
help
us
make
great
decisions
that
will
positively
benefit,
not
only
our
community
but
every
citizen
of
Charleston
and
in
the
surrounding
areas.
We
ask
that
you
keep
us
ever
mindful
of
those
in
need,
and
we
do
all
these
things
in
your
name.
Amen.
B
B
In
that
case,
use
these
two
doors
from
the
main
room,
there's
a
door
exit
door
from
the
room
to
my
right
and
in
that
event
please
do
not
use
the
elevator
but
use
the
two
stairs
going
down,
and
then
the
one
stair
out
to
the
front
in
the
most
unlikely
event
that
we
would
need
to
evacuate
the
building
quickly.
I
did
want
to
share
a
couple
of
statistics,
maybe
a
recognition
of
sort,
although
Mr
Al
top
is
not
here.
This
evening,
mr.
B
O'brian,
our
head
of
Public
Service,
gave
me
these
statistics
today,
which
are
really
quite
remarkable.
What
our
Environmental
Services
team
did
in
the
days
43
days,
particularly
after
Hurricane
durian,
we
collected
two
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
and
ten
cubic
yards
of
debris.
Now,
that's
you
know,
number
may
not
sound
like
a
whole
lot,
but
that's
two
and
a
half
times
what
we
normally
collect
in
an
entire
year.
B
We
collected
in
just
43
days
after
who
Hurricane
Dorian
came
to
visit
the
total
for
Charleston
County,
the
whole
county
by
the
way,
just
kind
of
comparison
was
over
six
hundred
and
fifteen
thousand
cubic
yards.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
this
took
43
days.
We
actually
worked
36
of
those
days
and
in
comparison,
hurricane
Matthew,
a
few
years
earlier,
had
about
half
as
much
debris
but
took
us
90
days
to
pick
up.
B
So
we
have
really
gotten
our
act
together
in
terms
of
response
and
how
to
handle
that
and
work
with
our
on-call
contractor
through
the
along
with
Charleston
County.
So
just
a
shout
out
and
a
recognition
Tom
not
just
to
you
and
Matt,
but
all
of
our
team
in
Environmental
Services.
They
really
did
a
great
job.
I
also
wanted
to
just
personally
extend
my
best
wishes
to
Council
and
our
citizens
for
a
Happy
Thanksgiving.
B
We
we
have
many
blessings
in
this
city,
much
to
be
thankful
for
and
I'm
counting
my
blessings
and
and
believe
we
all
will
be
this
week.
Urge
everyone
I
know
everybody.
Please
take
some
time
with
your
family
and
help
those
in
need,
but
happy
Thanksgiving
everyone.
So
without
further
ado
we
got
a
whole
mess
of
public
hearings
tonight,
I
think
ten
of
them
and
oh
yes,
sir,
oh
I,
did
want
to
recognize
councilmember
Griffin
to
get
to
highlight
the
report
that's
been
put
ever
on
a
shout.
C
Out
to
miss
Jordy
Yarborough,
she
dropped
off
the
annual
report
for
the
state
Port
Authority.
As
you
all
know,
we
have
a
new
terminal
coming
to
town
the
Leatherman
terminal.
We
have
new
overpasses
that
are
being
built
and
we're
going
to
be
the
deepest
port
on
the
East
Coast,
here's
very
very
shortly,
so
our
port
is
doing
great.
We've
had
a
great
fiscal
year,
even
people
off
terminal,
like
Neal
brothers,
we've
had
a
great
year,
we're
all
working
together
and
just
if
you
look
at
the
economic
impact
here,
it's
just
unbelievable.
C
Just
the
number
of
jobs
created
the
amount
of
revenue
created
and
oh
by
the
way,
our
state
port
authorities
in
Dillon
and
also
in
Greer,
so
we're
we're
we're
just
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
the
sky's
the
limit.
If
we
didn't
have
our
port,
the
city
and
the
state
would
suffer
so
we're
very
thankful
for
that,
and
just
very,
very
thankful
for
Geordi
to
come
by
and
drop
this
off
tonight.
C
D
D
Would
like
to
extend
an
invitation
to
all
the
members
of
council
and
staff
if
you'd
like
to
come
out
for
tour
of
any
of
our
facilities.
I
know
several
of
you
have
in
the
past
that
we
have
had
a
lot
of
growth
and
change
on
terminal
and
would
welcome
any
of
you
to
come
out
any
time.
So
please
do
that.
Get
in
touch
with
me
if
you're
interested
and
Happy
Holidays
thank.
D
B
E
Sir,
while
the
screen
comes
up,
I'll
give
the
background
on
that
one:
that's
98
Lime
Street,
it's
a
1/12
of
a
hundred
of
12
one
hundredths
of
an
acre,
so
it's
a
very
small
piece
of
land
over
there.
We'll
show
you
some
images
that
give
you
a
sense
of.
What's
going
on
with
that
here,
you
have
it
it's
just
to
the
east
of
street.
E
It's
in
a
location
that
has
a
mixture
of
zonings.
As
you
get
towards
the
st.
Phillip
Street
to
the
east,
you
have
general
business.
There
is
a
MU
workforce,
housing
further
to
the
or
a
little
bit
closer
to
the
east,
and
then
it's
surrounded
by
D
r2f,
which
is
a
residential
district.
The
request
is
to
go
to
commercial
transitional
for
just
this
portion
of
the
property.
Planning
Commission
recommended
approval.
5-0
on
this
I'll
show
you
some
images.
Of
course
this
is
in
the
urban
designation
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
it's
an
keep.
E
The
request
is
in
keeping
with
that.
Here's,
an
aerial
we're
gonna
zoom
in
on
a
little
bit
more
and
a
little
bit
tighter
in
honor,
and
so
you
see
where
the
subject
property
is.
It's
basically
the
outlines
of
a
structure,
that's
on
the
property
and
in
keeping
with
our
policies
in
the
Canon
Borough
la
tierra
area.
We've
not
been
endorsing
commercial
rezoning
z'
unless
it
was
previously
a
commercial
property
and
this
half
property
was
built
and
used
previously
for
commercial
purposes.
We
can
show
you
some
images.
You
can
see
how
it
has
a
commercial
storefront.
E
F
Thank
you.
My
name
is
Erica
Harrison.
This
is
actually
my
property.
I
was
moving
my
office
from
Rutledge
to
this
location.
We
recently
purchased
it
in
June
and
it
is
approximately
about
400
square
feet
of
office
space
for
a
solo
attorney,
so
this
is
going
to
be
my
office
space,
and
so
we
thought
that
this
would
offer
me
some
flexibility
if
I
wanted
to
to
change
careers
and
own
a
coffee
shop.
So
this
is
one
of
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
thought
that
a
CT
would
be
appropriate
on
at
this
location.
B
E
Movin
out
to
West
Ashley
15,
22,
balsam
Street
or
ignore
Sherwood
Forest.
This
is
a
request
to
go
from
single
and
to
family
residential
to
diverse
residential
D.
R1F
Planning
Commission
did
endorse
this
six
to
zero.
This
is
a
neighborhood
that
is
seeing
a
lot
more
diversity
of
Zoning.
It's
also
a
neighborhood
that
has
a
lot
of
potential
for
affordable
housing
within
it,
and
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
we've
been
endorsing
the
the
diversity
of
Zoning,
because
it
has
had
a
history
in
that
area
and
it
is
helping
us
help
achieve
more
affordable
housing.
E
This
property
is
in
the
area
that
is
highlighted
as
suburban
and
our
comprehensive
plan,
which
would
not
necessarily
support
the
level
of
density
of
D
r2f,
however
I'm
sorry,
D
or
1f.
However,
our
staff
feels
that,
because
of
the
differences
in
zoning
within
the
neighborhood
and
the
need
for
more
affordable
housing,
it's
a
justifiable
change
in
the
area
and
you'll
see
here
how
we
have
a
mix
within
the
neighborhood
we're
gonna
zoom
in
on
this
a
little
bit.
E
G
H
E
H
B
E
Item
is
ie
three,
which
is
645
East
Bay
Street
on
the
east
side,
along
East
Bay
across
from
the
Port
Authority
facilities.
It
is
immediately
south
of
another
parcel
that
is
zoned
mu-1,
workforce
housing
and
the
request
is
to
rezone
from
the
current
limited
business
on
the
property
to
that
mu.
One
one
workforce,
housing,
Planning
Commission,
recommend
approval
six
to
zero.
It
is
in
the
urban
excuse
me
in
the
urban
core
area
in
our
plan,
which
is
our
densest
zone,
so
that
that
is
in
line
the
MU
one.
E
Workforce
housing
is
in
line
with
the
urban
core,
so
hence
our
recommendation
of
approval
on
the
property
just
to
show
you
some
images
of
it
here.
It
is
immediately
south
of
a
new
development
that
is
underway.
Foundations
are
being
poured
just
to
the
north
of
it
for
for
housing
units
and
then,
of
course,
you've
got
the
Columbus
tree
terminal
across
the
street
a
little
bit
closer
in
zoning
resume
in
view,
and
you
see
some
of
the
historic
structures
that
are
nearby
and
the
Port
Authority
facilities
across
the
street.
E
B
E
To
45
ug
Street
has
been
before
you
all
before,
of
course,
previously
had
been
turned
down,
and
then
this
past
summer
council
asked
that
it
be
brought
back
up
and
moved
forward.
It
has
gone
to
Planning
Commission
to
and
overlay
the
accommodations
overlay
on
the
perdy
Planning
Commission
endorse,
not
six
to
zero
staff
is
supportive
as
well.
You
will
see
that
across
the
street,
the
areas
that
are
in
crosshatch
are
the
accommodations
overlay.
There
is
a
future
of
hotel
across
the
street
and
then
County
corner.
E
There
is
an
apartment,
complex
that
has
accommodations
overlay
and
underneath
it
there's
a
church
to
the
south.
There
are
also
areas
that
are
zoned
in
the
Upper
Peninsula
zoning
district
that
are
in
purple,
as
is
the
subject
property.
But
of
course
accommodations
overlay
is
a
supplemental
aspect
to
that,
and
so
they
would
need
accommodations
overlay
to
allow
a
hotel
on
the
site
here.
E
It
is
in
the
comprehensive
plan
again
in
the
urban
core
area,
so
the
accommodations
overlay
would
be
justified
in
that
and
we
have
some
images
of
the
property
from
the
air
and
a
little
bit
closer.
There's
currently
a
warehouse
on
the
property,
and
you
see
the
vacant
lot
across
the
street.
This
is
a
flip
from
the
previous
map
image
you
saw,
and
here
the
accommodations
districts
as
you
head
up
upper
meeting
street
they're
shown
in
cross
app.
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
Joseph
Watson
I
come
representing
Eastside
Community,
Development
Corporation,
also
a
greater
than
Palma
corporation.
We
would
like
this
project
to
move
forward,
but
as
an
organization's,
we
want
them
to
work
with
the
community
on
a
benefit
agreement.
Of
course,
the
whole
city
need
to
do
that
because
we
all
here
are
in
life
together.
We
need
to
work
about
lifting
people
up
more,
create
the
avenues
to
help
the
people
in
the
community.
I
J
My
name
is
Karl
Bernard
I'm,
a
senior
at
the
College
of
Charleston
I'm,
a
finance
major
and
plan
on
working
in
hospitality.
I
think
it
would
honestly
be
a
shame
if
another
good-paying
hotel
went
to
waste
I've
lived
here
for
about
three
and
a
half
years
now
and
I've
seen
what
hotels
have
done
for
Charleston.
It
has
only
increased
truck
how
they
excuse
me.
It's
only
increased
the
well-being
of
the
people
in
Charleston
and
I.
Think
it'd
be
a
shame
if
this
would
away.
Thank.
K
L
I
lived
on
UT
Street
many
years
ago,
so
I'm
here.
For
another
reason,
under
the
planting
table
that
the
public
safety
and
I
was
brought
to
my
attention,
I'm
very
popular
in
these
side,
which
I
lived
20
years
ago,
I
live
in
other
nice
out
in
20
years,
but
but
but
again
that
the
concern
is
for
me
is
is
the
impacts.
L
This
election
had
its
arms
race,
conscience
policies,
rather
not
race.
Conscious
policies
have
left
the
city
in
November
six
years.
Forty
years,
agos
race,
neutral,
we
race
neutral.
Are
we
begging
somebody
dole
census,
tracts
in
that
area,
created
the
value
for
the
city
of
Charleston,
from
1970
to
1980
but
may
left
out?
Then
many
are
in
something
called
the
na
dhih
dhih
is
system
by
the
DEA.
L
Many
people
in
the
community
were
wrongfully
accused
and
arrested
for
many
many
years.
Don't
forget
them.
When
you
cut
this
deal
on
opioids
for
corporations
to
settle
with
you
for
millions,
when
many
people
were
nonviolent
offenders
that
went
to
jail,
but
they
were
uneducated.
They
had
no
opportunities
at
all
for
30
years,
so
I
submit
to
you
for
the
records
I'm.
L
So
well
known
this
area,
the
FOIA
request
that
I
did
make
for
40
years
to
the
Supreme
Court
United
States,
on
behalf
of
those
folk
that
you
say
I
know:
I
got
a
full
ride
of
college
everything
with
the
school
my
to
household
parents,
with
the
private
school
for
about
seven
eight
years.
What
are
you
talking
about?
I,
don't
do
stereotypes.
So
what
we
want
to
do
that
these
hotel
owners
know
they
have
a
reduced
responsibility
based
on
the
census,
tracts
used
to
create
the
value
that
they
now,
as
mr.
L
N
Christopher
king
with
the
Preservation
Society
of
Charleston
want
to
congratulate
those
of
you
that
are
been
reelected
and
also
want
to
thank
those
of
you
for
your
service
and
are
continuing
on.
It's
been
a
pleasure
working
with
all
of
you
and
appreciate
your
service
to
the
city
of
Charleston.
I
must
be
quickly
this
matter.
N
As
we're
working
to
tighten
Hotel
and
accommodations
used
in
the
city,
we
have
an
ordinance
that
gives
us
great
power,
but
we
can't
be
willy-nilly
adding
parcels
in
around
the
city.
It
doesn't
matter
if
we
have
a
good
ordinance
if
we
keep
continuing
in
and
the
ones
that
we
add
if
they're
not
close
to
downtown
it
puts
more
cars
on
the
street,
so
we
remain
concerned
and
would
hope
that
you
might
deny
this
request.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
I'm
the
applicant
with
a
chase
furniture.
Thank
you
just
to
reiterate
a
couple
things
I've
mentioned
that
got
the
unanimous
vote.
Planning
that
also
supported
the
first
reading
here
at
City.
Council.
Is
that
hotels,
although
some
people
think
they're
bad
word
or
they
one
of
the
only
projects
that
both
get
accommodations
tax?
Thirty
million
dollars
worth
of
bonds
for
the
African
American
Museum
in
Charleston,
and
are
held
to
a
higher
standard
for
contribution
for
affordable
housing,
I,
don't
know
any
other
development
in
Charleston
that's
held
to
both
of
those
standards.
O
P
I
wanna
congratulate
councilman
Lewis
for
the
job
he
have
done
on
city
council
for
the
last
20.
So
much
is
you
know,
Jesus.
When
I
like
that
thing
allocated
from
the
scripture,
Jesus
can
find
Jesus.
Mother
Mary
may
God
be
pleased
enough
offer
them
peace
and
blessings
of
God
be
upon
them.
They
can
find
no
room
in
the
end,
so
the
baby
was
born
and
Abad
because
all
the
hotels
was
crowded.
So
the
poor
people
cannot
afford
these
hotels
and
the
very
name
tell
you
they
are
disgrace.
P
This
was
saved
and
some
councilmen
voted
on
it.
Now
we're
going
14
stories
high,
that's
a
whole
big
different
from
three
storey
high,
but
this
was
told
and
it's
on
record,
you
can
see
the
record
check
the
record.
So
what
these
hotels
and
the
reason
why
they
have
to
go
high,
because
people
in
the
suburb
are
saying
they
don't
want
be
annexed
into
Charleston.
They
want
their
property
one
time.
P
Shelter
would
annex
all
these
other
suburbs
and
children,
a
lady
came
and
everyone,
the
suburb,
so
I
don't
want
to
be
annexed
into
charter,
so
Charleston
can't
go
out
no
more
like
West
Ashley
defense
on
the
peninsula,
etc.
So
they
got
to
go
up
and
those
big
night
don't
have
no
room,
so
they
come
with
the
hotel
and
our
neighborhood
is
being
destroyed
and
I
heard.
Someone
said
it
give
thirty
million
dollar
for
the
African
American
Museum.
We
don't
need
no
Museum.
We
need
businesses
in
our
neighborhood.
P
We
don't
need
no
museum,
that
for
dead
people
we
want
places
in
our
neighborhood.
Well
shows
you
can
see
us
doing
business
now.
If
you
want
to
donate
thirty
million
dollars
to
help
me
to
put
some
restaurant
or
I
ran
by
African
America.
We
appreciate
it,
but
we
don't
need
no,
damn
museums.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
B
Q
You
know
when
we
had
the
armor.
This
thing
first
was
brought
to
us
at
City.
Council
and
I
voted
against
it
in
the
beginning,
because
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
mr.
chase,
he
was
there
and
I
told
him.
I
was
going
to
do
it
until
he
gets
with
the
community
and
makes
sure
that
community
knows
was
happening
in
their
community
and
get
with
the
churches.
That's
budding
that
particular
property
on
so
I
met
with
him.
Q
I
met
with
the
pastor,
our
pastor,
Jackson,
of
where
the
rafters
Church
I
met
with
the
neighbourhood
president
is
Tonya
gamble
and
we
sat
down
and
I
had
him
to
explain
to
them
what
he
was
planning
to
do
and
I
told
my
all.
The
problem
is
I,
don't
know
the
hype
here.
It's
not
the
height
is
not
something
that
I
feel
comfortable
with
I'm
gonna
put
against
it.
No
and
I.
Don't
pull
punches
I'ma,
let
you
know
exactly
where
I'm
coming
from,
because
I
know
there's
another
hotel
plan
there.
Q
That's
gonna
be
right
across
the
street.
It's
gonna
be
a
hundred
rooms.
I
mean
a
hundred
feet
high,
so
I
told
him.
I
said
I
know
you've
a
long
journey
to
go
through
because
you
went
to
the
Planning
Commission
already,
but
you
have
to
go
through
the
hotel
task
force
and
they'll
weigh
on
it
too.
So
that's
my
only
problem
with
the
way
of
a
hype.
Q
The
hotel
is
gonna,
be
when
we
have
another
hotel
coming
there
and
but
otherwise
he
would
ask
and
we
do
we
met,
but
the
entities
are
wrong
in
that
area.
So
that's
why
I'm
boarding
to
approve
it
that
he
go
on
move
on
and
it's
Neighborhood
Association
is
satisfy
with
it.
So
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
it
right
now.
Council.
H
H
B
Q
B
R
This
is
the
rezoning
of
property
is
located
at
San
rittenberg
and
Orleans
Road,
formerly
known
as
Citadel
mall,
now
known
as
epic
Center
rezoning
from
general
business
to
Planned
Unit
development
PUD.
This
has
already
been
voted
on
once
by
Council.
It
was
unanimously
approved
for
a
first
read.
It
has
been
to
Planning
Commission
and
they
also
unanimously
endorsed
it
with
some
amendments
to
include
more
affordable
housing.
Assuming
everyone
here
knows
the
locations.
However,
this
PUD
only
includes
53
acres
of
the
nearly
100
of
the
entire
site.
It
does
not
include
the
parcels
for
Dillard
developer.
Q
B
R
Correct.
Thank
you
an
important
aspect.
This
PUD
is
that
it
does
allow
for
the
exchange
of
densities
among
uses,
so
you
could
do
less
office
and
more
residential
or
vice
versa.
That's
an
important
aspect
of
this.
We
felt
as
the
Planning
Commission
that
it's
important
that
this
PUD
have
flexibility
going
forward
on
a
project
of
this
size
in
the
conversion
of
the
declined,
mall
now
just
a
few
more
points.
This
is
designated
as
urban
core
and
our
comprehensive
plan.
R
The
only
location
outside
of
downtown
that
has
the
urban
core
designation,
which
means
the
most
intents
used
the
tallest
height
of
any
location
nearby.
Nowhere
else
off
the
peninsula
has
thus-
and
this
of
course,
is
recommended
for
redevelopment
within
the
West
ashley
master
plan
that
specifically
discusses
the
redevelopment
into
a
mixed-use
town
center
for
the
entire
community,
and
this
is
where,
of
course,
it
does
ignite.
R
So
you
can't
see
my
laser,
where
it
designates
as
redevelopment
specifically
in
the
West
Ashley
master
plan
and
the
last
important
point,
and
this
presentation
is
that
this
does
call
for
the
most
affordable
housing
potentially
for
any
PUD
ever
adopted
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
and
that
was
something
that
we're
very
happy
about.
As
this
Planning
Commission,
they
did
increase
the
amount.
R
The
way
this
works
that
the
more
housing
they
build,
the
more
affordable
housing
they
are
required
to
deliver
a
significant
amount
of
affordable
housing
up
to
one
hundred
and
eighty
for
affordable
out
of
the
twelve
hundred
and
twenty
five
total
allowed
in
the
base
densities.
If
they
exceed
that
based
entity
of
1224
dwelling
units,
then
the
percentage
of
affordable
housing
required
goes
up
as
a
result
of
the
amendments
made
by
Planning
Commission.
R
B
We
still
like
to
have
a
public
hearing
on
this.
I
do
want
to
point
out,
in
addition
to
the
20%,
that
this
putt
is
not
eligible
for
the
fee
and
loot,
so
they
can't
buy
out
of
the
affordable
housing
requirement.
They've
got
to
produce
the
units
if,
when
they
provide
housing
at
all
on
the
on
the
site
so
on,
would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter?
Please
come
forward.
Yes,
sir
mr.
Pollock,
mr.
S
Mayor
councilmembers,
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight.
My
name
is
George
Bullwinkle,
my
addresses
205,
King,
Street
and
I
work
for
next
and
Pruitt
I'm,
the
attorney
for
the
applicant.
We
also
have
the
civil
engineer
and
the
traffic
engineer
here
tonight,
as
well
as
the
property
owners.
Many
of
the
things
I
was
going
to
discuss
tonight
have
already
been
discussed
by
mr.
Lindsey,
and
the
mayor's
relates
to
attainable
and
affordable
housing,
which
also
includes
one
thing
that
was
left
out
would
include
60%
of
ami
as
well,
which
also
is
one
of
the
most
aggressive.
S
That's
ever
been
done
in
the
city
of
Charleston
I
think
it
is
important.
As
you
said,
we
have
made
a
commitment
not
to
go
in
and
buy
through
the
fee
and
Luth
program,
but
a
couple
other
beneficial
things
as
you'll
see
in
front
of
you,
I
put
a
three
page
or
four
page
sheet,
and
many
of
you
know
this,
but
for
the
public
we
argue
this
does
allow
for
a
comprehensive
approach
to
stormwater,
which
I
know
is
extremely
important
out
there.
That
is
not
an
option.
Right
now,
we're
also
looking
up
in
space.
S
S
They
did
a
great
job.
We
believe
it's
extremely
consistent
and,
as
Jacob
said,
we
believe
it's
consistent
with
the
comprehensive
plan
and
being
designated
as
an
urban
core.
One
thing
we
did
hear,
obviously
from
meeting
with
many
of
you,
the
public,
the
mayor
and
staff,
was
that
we
needed
to
look
back
at
what
we
were
doing
with
height
and,
as
currently
proposed.
The
maximum
height
could
be
25
stories.
There's
some
caveats
that
obviously
there's
a
500-foot
but
first
proposed
on
Orleans
Road
that
could
be
no
higher
than
9
storeys.
S
So
through
over
the
last
few
weeks,
we've
come
back
and
proposed
we're
talking
with
many
of
you
as
I
said
the
second
page
of
this
handout,
and
it
spells
out
our
change
and
graphically
depicts
what
we're
talking
about
buildings
within
500
feet
of
Orleans
Road
right-of-way
shall
not
exceed
nine
stories.
That
equates
to
about
11
acres
of
the
property
of
the
53
acres
is
being
rezoned
right
now.
S
We
then
went
forward
and
changed
the
PUD
to
allow
buildings
outside
of
this
area
would
have
a
maximum
height
of
18
acres
that
was
reduced
from
the
originally
proposed
25
acres
stories.
I
apologize
getting
ahead
of
myself
once
again,
and
we've
also
gone
ahead
and
put
a
caveat
that
only
40%
of
this
property
could
be
above
15
stories.
S
So
when
you
look
at
what
this
does
from
a
practical
standpoint,
it's
the
last
page
of
the
handout
that
I
handed
you
you're,
looking
at
8
acres,
represents
the
retention
ponds,
obviously
going
to
be
zero
stories
on
the
Lord's
II
Orleans
district.
You
have
that
could
be
a
maximum
of
nine
stories,
not
equates
to
11
acres.
The
remainder
of
the
property
v
21
acres
could
be
between
obviously
one
in
15
stories
and
13
acres
could
be
between
15
and
18
stories.
S
B
C
C
That's
that's
what
I
wanted
to
get
to
next.
That's
the
number
one
along
whirlings
red,
the
maximum
height
is
gonna,
be
nine.
A
portion
of
it
is
already
at
five
and
that'll
that's
existing
just
on
zoning.
It
would
be
the
back
side,
the
the
closer
you
get
towards
526,
that
you
would
have
the
maximum
for
our
gen
city.
Just
something
I
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
Belk
target
and
don't
work
in.
S
S
S
With
the
same
caveats
and
everything
that
we
discussed
earlier,
the
last
thing
I'd
say
about
the
REA.
This
is
the
beginning
step,
as
we
said
the
first
time
that
all
of
us
here
we
are
going
to
re-engage
the
stakeholders
and
they
will
have
a
great
deal
to
do
with
what
actually
develops
out
there
under
those
private
agreements.
I
just.
C
S
C
S
T
T
U
S
S
That,
first
of
all,
it
we've
gone
to
level
we've
had,
and
we
know
that
under
the
current
program,
the
performance
will
walk
again
up
to
the
30
years,
which
is
a
longer
duration
than
many
of
the
existing
cuts.
With
that
said,
to
go
over
that,
we
need
to
finalize
plans.
We
need
to
work
with
other
stakeholders
as
I,
discuss
the
Laurier
and
come
back
to
the
table
with
council
and
your
staff
to
determine
what's
feasible
and
also
in
a
lot
of
that,
goes
on
to
what
can
actually
what
can
actually
be
built
and
financed.
H
Yes,
that,
just
to
continue
the
theme
of
I
I
too,
had
the
questions
about
the
length
of
time.
So
thank
you
for
answering
that
and
I
I
totally
agree
with
my
council
colleague
that
it's
30
years
is
too
short.
We
should
not
be
settling
for
anything
less
than
90,
which
is
what
the
city
guarantees
for
any
any
amazing.
You
know
big
big
project
that
we're
considering
like
this
I
and
just
to
drill
down
a
little
more
in
the
makeup
of
the
housing.
H
H
S
D
H
H
H
Then
my
other
concern
is
just
in
reading
and
admittedly
I
read.
You
know
the
executive
summary
and
some
of
the
introduction
and
the
final
recommendations
of
the
traffic
impact
analysis
and
my
my
takeaway
from
that
is
there's
a
long,
a
long
period
of
time
over
the
next
20
years
as
the
property
is
built
out,
and
you
know
the
density
evolves
that
the
transportation
that's
identified.
That
will
be
knee
we'll
be
needed
when,
when
that
density
de
erectus
is
different,
four
or
five
phases,
I
think.
H
Q
Think
most
of
the
most
of
the
question
that
was
asked
was
answered
just
next
time.
We
come
and
go
through.
This
I
would
like
to
have
them
in
numbers.
I
know
it's
33%,
but
I
would
like
to
happen.
The
total
numbers
of
units
that's
gonna,
be
under
the
60%
of
ami
and
also
they're
done.
We
still
need
to
Brooklyn
how
long,
because
I'm
not
going
to
I'm
very
adamant
about
housing,
affordability
always
was
always
will
be.
We
need.
There
was
housing.
Q
Affordability
for
people
to
be
able
to
stay
around
on
this
peninsula
are
in
the
West
Ashley
area,
and
it
need
to
provide
these
housing
for
people
to
be
able
to
afford.
We
are
talking
about
you,
know
the
diversity
and
having
people
whose
walk
and
drive
and
things
like
that,
but
we
have
to
provide
housing
for
them
and
and
I
want
to
let
the
time
of
housing
not
25,
30
years
that
go
by
so
fast.
You
wouldn't
even
know
it
sometime.
We
take
ten
years
to
build
it
out.
Q
So
this
is
some
of
the
things
you
know:
I'm
very
I'm,
gonna
buttons,
one
to
see
exactly
when
it
comes
to
those
numbers
and
how
long
it's
going
to
be
there,
because
these
short
period
time.
That's
why
I've
been
the
predicament
being
right
now
we
have
approved
a
lot
of
things
for
10
years,
but
in
20
years,
not
as
gone
and
all
these
different
people
complexes.
Now
people
have
to
move
out
and
they
can't
stay
anywhere
wrong
in
the
peninsula
on
the
West
Ashley
area.
B
B
V
It's
not
like
this
stuff's
gonna
show
up.
You
know
between
now
and
Christmas.
Okay,
this
is
a
relatively
long
term
project
and
I.
Think
that's
we
don't.
We
didn't
want
to
get
wrapped
around
the
axle,
because
hey
that's
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
buildings
at
some
point
in
time
now,
whether
it's
ten
years
twenty
years,
thirty
years,
everything's
relevant
and
we
just
barely
touched
on
it
just
now.
A
very
large
percentage
of
this
is
not
going
to
happen,
probably
within
ten
years.
If
that's
my
guess,
say:
30
years
a
long
time.
V
V
So
as
you're
looking
forward
in
your
talking,
you
know
development
of
50s
or
bill
in
ten
story:
buildings,
nine
story,
buildings,
eighteen
story,
buildings
and
a
bunch
of
buildings-
and
you
know
we
just
watching
west
edge
go
up
and
then
what
what
about
four
or
five
years
and
there's
gonna
be
just
a
couple
big
buildings.
There
yeah
it
started
long
time
ago,
but
you
know
you
had
to
bring
it
up
first
before
you
could
go
up,
but
bottom
line
is
I.
Don't
think
we
ought
to
get
wrapped
around
the
axle
about.
V
V
I
think,
as
they
start
planning
this
out
and
give
us
a
little
more
information,
I
think
that's
gonna
be
a
helpful
thing,
but
to
put
the
brakes
all
there
slow
it
down,
because
there's
no
way
in
the
world.
We
can
tell
what's
gonna
happen
next,
you
know
or
when
you
know
you
have
another
recession
or
you
can
have
another
boom,
so
that's
just
kind
of
put
it
put
it
in
a
little
bit
different
perspective.
It's
not
gonna
happen
overnight.
Okay,
like
well.
B
W
W
That's
going
to
be
needed
and,
as
that
density
goes
up,
more
and
more
money
will
come
in
because
not
only
do
we
have
the
city
taxes,
we
have
the
county
taxes,
which
is
about
the
same
thing
as
the
city,
taxes
and
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
how
much
but
the
school
district,
which
is
the
other
half
of
the
taxes
they
they
went
in
something
on
this.
It.
W
It
wasn't
a
fool
whatever,
but
so
to
me
is
this
density
starts
occurring
that
tax
revenue
will
start
which
could
be
used
for
bonding
and
stuff
like
that
for
infrastructure,
so
it
all
works
together
and
I
think
this
is
the
first
step
for
the
revitalization
of
West,
Ashley
and
I'm
going
to
support
this.
Thank.
G
X
This
project
has
come
before
the
West
Ashley
revitalization
Commission.
We
reviewed
this
proposal
several
months
ago.
I've
met
with
the
owners,
and
we've
expressed
some
of
the
concerns
we
had
with
the
the
height
on
this
property
has
I've
heard
from
several
constituents
about
their
concerns,
with
that
one
of
the
things
I
think
that
we
have
not
discussed
tonight.
X
K
X
X
The
concept
I
think
that
councilmember
gradually
mentioned
earlier
a
live
work
and
play
here's
an
opportunity
that
we're
going
to
see
with
this
pod
taking
place
over
here,
who
also
mindful
that
some
of
those
properties
already
in
process
and
we've
been
to
the
mall
and
seen
what's
happening
with
the
American
University
of
South
Carolina
and
the
ambulatory
surgery
center.
Think
of
the
many
moving
parts
with
this
puhd
and
what
this
pod
is
going
to
do
to
become
the
the
the
epic
center
of
where's
Ashley
and
that's
what
we're
talking
about
here.
X
This
is,
and
it's
going
to
take
a
while
for
this
to
build
out.
I
know
we'll
take
a
while
to
come
to
full
fruition.
We
may
not
see
it
in
all
lifetime.
Those
of
us
sitting
in
here
tonight
that
it
will
start
and
it
will
have
an
opportunity
to
totally
revitalize
West
Ashley.
Let's
move
forward
with
it,
I'm
glad
for
the
accommodations
that
the
owners
have
made
on
reducing
to
this
the
height
requirements.
X
G
G
What
they
have
done
on
their
own
is
converted
to
mix
use
without
having
to
get
the
mu1
and
mu2,
and
all
of
that-
and
now
it's
very
soon
that
it
already
have
with
it
with
the
HBO
facility
putting
up
feet
on
sidewalks
and
if
you
want
that
brings
them
all
back
to
life
and
medical
university.
The
Jobcentre
that's
being
created
over
there
I
mean
that
is
awesome,
other
out-of-the-box
thinking,
okay,
again
feet
on
sidewalks
and
yes,
we
do
have
some
sidewalks
West
fashion,.
G
The
owners
and
council
members
have
had
ongoing
dialogue
on
this
and
it
has
improved
every
step
of
the
way
and
their
local
and
sometime
I
might
give
a
little
extra
credit
for
local.
You
know
why,
because
they
have
to
live
with
whatever
they
do,
they
in
our
communities.
They
got
to
ride
by
and
look
at
it
just
like
we
do.
But
having
said
all
of
that,
a
major
development
like
this
should
pass
the
50-year
test.
The
Charleston
please
pass
the
50-year
test.
It
did.
G
Did
dockside
passed
a
fifty-year
test,
which
is
the
tallest
building
I
believe
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
Dockside
is
between
that
by
nama
story.
Did
the
people's
building
pass
the
50-year
test
and
although
I
don't
create
any
fights
in
this
chamber,
the
dis,
argent
Jasper,
even
the
original
sergeant
Jasper?
Did
it
pass
the
50-year
test?
It
provided,
affordable,
housing
film
after
World
War
two
until
it
was
torn
down
okay
and
what
we
putting
up
right
now.
Will
it
pass
the
50-year
test
in
C?
That
said,
this
is
our
50-year
test
at
West
Ashley
revitalization.
G
This
is
our
town
center.
Potentially,
this
is
the
catalyst
that
will
get
the,
hopefully,
the
TIFF
working
for
the
infants
needed
infrastructure
that
we
all
speak
about.
Now
they
have
come
down
from
the
25
stories
and
they
have
to
spell
and
mr.
Bullwinkle
you
might
want
to
come
back
to
the
microphone,
because
one
thing
about
a
part
of
part
is
a
plan.
Zoning
and
you
can
shape
it,
eat
your
mullet
kind
of
like
play-doh
and
that's
what's
good
for
the
public.
That's
what's
good
for
the
city,
the
25
stories,
no
more
mr.
Bullwinkle
correct!
R
G
R
G
Well,
maybe
we
can
maybe
point
out
where
the
stairs
and
526
is
on
this
I
know
I
see
it
up.
They
just
want
people
to
focus
on
the
picture
with
526.
Now,
as
we
spoke
yesterday,
there's
roughly
12
to
14
acres,
where
the
18
story
buildings
are
subject
to
be
located,
starts
at
13.
Yes,
sir,
for
13
acres,
mr.
Lindsey
want
to
get
up
there
with
a
point
is
not
working.
You
want
to
point
to
that.
Please
Oh.
R
G
But
now
we
have
this
on
the
over
here
anyway,
council
have
probably
had
a
disadvantage.
What
does
it
do
for
aliens
rose
again?
The
owners
moved
away
from
the
connectivity
idea
of
beurling's,
woods
and
Hazel
would
drive,
and
let
me
tell
you
why
they
were
very
understanding
when
we
spoke
about
the
fear
and
miss
geo.
Nicole
johnson
can
speak
to
this.
G
Several
months
ago
we
had
a
meeting
city
had
a
meeting
in
aliens
woods
and
we
had
about
I,
don't
know
30
homeowners
turnout,
maybe
more
people
who
had
lived
there
for
decades,
35,
40
45
years,
I
think
one
lady
called
it
and
they're
fearful
of
being
brought
up,
and
these
are
homeowners.
These
are
not
rayner's,
there's
a
fair
in
the
audience,
woods
community
and
a
long,
savage
road
which
area
I
grew
up
in
much
less
represented.
G
I
mean
this
is
my
home
fear
of
gentrification
and
one
of
the
things
that
fused
gentrification
is
to
remove
a
little
affordable
housing
for
higher
price
house.
So
when
you
have
heard
around
the
table
here
that
30
years
is
too
short
from
a
development
standpoint,
you
would
say
these
guys
must
be
out
of
their
mind,
but
from
a
community
standpoint
that
has
had
a
fordable
housing
in
it
from
its
inception,
even
when
it
was
ruled,
we
had
affordable
housing
out
there.
It
is
urban.
We
have
affordable
housing
out
there.
G
If
I
were
to
submit
that
market
rate
housing,
would
it
expire
and
30
years?
You
would
think
that
guy
has
gone
flat,
crazy,
that's
the
way
we
feel
about
the
sort
of
a
housing
piece.
Now
we
didn't
discuss
that
with
staff.
We
didn't
get
a
chance
to
discuss
that
with
owners,
the
congruence
between
market
rate
housing
and
the
affordability
for
the
very
people
that
hopefully
will
work
in
this
job.
Center
has
to
remain
in
place.
G
Oh
we'd
be
lighting
a
fuse,
like
we've
done
very
much
on
the
peninsula
over
the
decades,
and
when
we
say
how
did
it
happen,
we
allowed
market
rate
housing
to
replace
affordable
house.
There
was
a
time
when,
when
I
was
a
kid,
we
would
come
around
ride
downtown
and
in
particular
on
Colonial
eight.
You
literally
have
african-american
women
in
uniforms
pushing
majority
beads,
but
you
know
what
this
peninsula
loud,
that
affluent
family
to
live
on
the
peninsula
and
that
lady
who
was
pushing
the
babies,
the
nanny
they
could
live
on
the
peninsula
as
well.
G
This
peninsula
provided
an
assortment
of
housing
for
all.
Now
we
take
that
same
formula
and
we
go
West
Ashley.
Would
it
what
we're
gonna
do?
Is
we're
gonna
push
affordability
as
we've
done,
and
some
parts
already
out
for
some
of
us
so
to
keep
the
affordable
communities
in
place
as
we
build
1200
units
and
bring
on
market
rate
office,
space
and
market
rate
retail
space?
Certainly
we
have
to
keep
affordability
there
in
my
opinion,
permanently,
certainly
longer
than
30
years
now
these
owners
are
in
the
time
crunch.
G
I'm.
Certainly
gonna
support
the
second
reading.
Now
we
meet
December
3rd
this
little
tweaking
that
we
talked
about
working
along
affordability
period.
We
have
to
do
some
homework
between,
hopefully,
the
six,
so
I'm
asking
council
a
whole
up.
The
third
reading:
don't
do
it
concurrently
until
we
work
out
with
the
owners
a
long,
the
affordability
period
on
the
housing,
that's
gonna,
be
creatively
and
again
they'll
be
the
commitment
for
not
taking
the
fee
in
lieu.
That's
the
easy
thing
for
the
developers
to
do.
We
don't
want
to
have
the
headache
of
dealing
with
affordable
housing.
G
Here's
a
check,
you
go,
do
it
Mikey,
you
go,
do
it
Mikey
these
people
are
responsible
and
they
are
saying
we're
gonna.
Do
it,
let's
help
them.
Do
it
right
now,
I,
don't
know
that
the
city
has
found
a
way
to
help
them
do
that,
but
somehow
between
this
reading
and
next
Tuesday
reading,
hopefully
we
all
can
get
creative
as
a
city
and
certainly
as
a
as
a
developer,
but
the
part
that
says
what
does
this
mean
for
all
these
Road?
G
That's
gonna
be
five
stories,
but-
and
we
talked
about
this
briefly
with
the
owners
on
the
short
meeting
yesterday
but
think
about
if
we
go
one
day,
there's
gonna
be
five
stories
with
targeted
and
as
we
go
down,
Olins
Road
we're
gonna
go
up
to
nine
stories.
This
should
be
some
kind
of
step
back
or
congruence.
You
think
about
Coleman
Boulevard
right
now,
with
the
apartments
on
Coleman
Boulevard
Hut,
all
of
those
buildings
over
I,
don't
believe
they're
nine
stories.
G
This
should
be
a
step
back
from
all
these
road
now,
as
you
curve
around
and
get
by
the
GMC
billing,
and
all
of
that
no
problem
with
that.
But
a
long
onlys
ruled
the
congruence
between
five
stories
or
a
lower
height.
That
is
on
all
these
rules
by
target
and
as
you
progress
towards
sam
rittenberg
on
that
straightaway,
I
think
you
should
have
concurrency
in
height
of
similarities
in
height,
not
five-story,
and
going
almost
twice
as
I/o
from
five
to
nine
I.
G
S
G
G
G
That's
my
caveat
to
not
have
any
third
reading
at
this
table.
Why
didn't
you
talk
about
this?
Frankly,
we
didn't
have
that
conversation
staff
had
that
conversation
with
the
owners.
I,
don't
know
whether
how
City
monies
can
fact
in
this
I'm
flying
by
the
seat
of
my
pants
on
that.
But
if
we
want
a
long
affordability
period,
we
have
to
pay
for
it.
Okay,
so
that's
my
amendment
to
who
moved
over
here
you
moved
and
I.
G
Think
a
number
of
seconds
went
up
so
that
the
the
pieces
congruence
some
sort
of
congruence
between
the
five
acres
along
the
straightaway
that
now
the
target
controls
going
stepped
up
to
nine
stories.
Frankly,
I
think
that
a
little
bit
look
a
little
bit
more.
Like
Wall
Street,
now
I've
been
to
Wall
Street
because
across
the
street,
where
the
Dress
Barn
is
and
I
know
they
don't
own
that
property.
G
But
that's
basically
one
story
over
there
don't
be
surprised
if
we
get
an
application
down
the
road
for
that
shopping
center
across
the
street
once
some
of
the
success
and
it
will
be
successful,
taking
place
and
sort
of
the
mall
site.
So
I
call
that
tweaking
the
the
verbage
is
to
that
speak
to
where
to
eat
fifteen.
To
eighteen
story,
buildings
would
go
the
affordability
period,
the
elongated
and
congruence
along
all
these
ruled
in
that
of
the
height
and
the
first
part.
G
W
A
little
clarification
from
councilmember
wearing
because
we're
the
target
and
all
that
stuff
is,
is
not
part
of
this
PUD,
and
so
that's
going
to
have
to
come
to
us
at
some
point
in
the
future
for
a
decision
as
to
what's
going
to
be
made.
Would
that
not
be
the
appropriate
time,
but
we're
just
talking
about?
Do
you
want
the
part?
That's
right
on
Orleans
road?
You
want
that
lowered
now,
yeah.
G
G
But
target
right
now:
the
height
district
is
55
feet.
Okay,
so
now,
let's
just
see
if
we
got
nine
stories,
if
we
gave
nine
stories
there,
one
of
these
days,
you're
right,
target's
gonna
come
in
front
of
us,
so
some
other
owner
and
they
gonna
say
we
got
nine
stories
over
there.
We
should
have
nine
score
easily.
B
You
in
a
negotiation
to
clarify
exactly
where
18-story
footprint
is
to
have
a
further
discussion
about
a
setback
along
the
rest
of
Orleans
roads,
it's
already
in
the
PUD
and
thirdly,
to
discuss
the
longevity
of
the
affordable
housing.
Is
it
okay,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes
habit.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
B
A
B
A
B
E
E
A
piece
of
property,
the
city
owns
that
we
want
to
have
affordable
units
on
and
the
request
would
reason
it
from
STR
single
and
to
family
residential
to
diverse
residential
dr1.
Again,
as
I
mentioned
before,
there's
a
real
mix
in
this
neighborhood
of
zoning
types,
and
so
we
are
working
towards
utilizing
that
type
of
mix
within
the
neighborhood
to
have
us
have
more
affordable
housing.
The
Planning
Commission
has
endorsed
this
request:
five
to
zero.
E
It
is
again
in
the
same
designation
and
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
again
we're
looking
at
that
a
little
bit
differently
because
of
the
diversity
of
the
zoning
types
in
the
neighborhood.
Here's
an
image
of
the
property
that
the
city
owns
that
would
go
to
the
dr
115
55
juniper,
and
there
you
see
it
up
close
and
another
image
there
and
you
see
some
of
the
surrounding
properties
and
adjacent
multifamily.
So
staff
and
Planning
Commission
are
recommending
approval
of
this
request
and.
B
B
G
Y
Z
E
Okay,
next
item
is
ie7
1815
Beachwood.
You
all
saw
that
at
your
last
meeting
and
we
have
made
sure
of
the
corrected
address
here
and
it
is
the
same
request
that
was
before
you
before
it's
single-family
residential
sr6,
2d
r6.
The
amount
of
property
is
fairly
small.
It's
about
two
thirds
of
an
acre,
so
it
would
not
be
a
huge
number
of
units.
I
believe
the
owner
was
here
at
the
last
meeting
talked
about
three
units,
maybe
four
units,
something
like
that.
E
Our
staff
has
recommended
approval
on
this,
and
the
Planning
Commission
recommended
approval
six
to
zero.
You
see
that
it's
in
the
kind
of
highway
designated
area
in
the
comprehensive
plan
because
of
its
proximity
to
Ashley
River
Road,
which
means
that
more
intensity
is,
is
permissible
as
per
the
comprehensive
plan.
That's
part
of
the
reason
in
our
justification
and
the
rezoning,
it
is
a
irregularly-shaped
lot
that
does
backup
to
other
multifamily
and
adjoins
commercial
property.
E
B
Z
If
this
is
in
my
district
and
unless
you
live
down,
Ashley
River
Road,
outside
a
526
or
unless
you
live
down,
Glenn
McConnell
back
that
back
that
way
and
there's
other
than
councilman
Griffin
and
I
I,
don't
think
there's
anybody
at
the
table
that
goes
through
this
area
every
single
day,
but
there
there
are,
you
know,
I
know
we
have
several
staff
in
here
that
do
our
roads
cannot
take
any
more
cars
right
now.
It
is
a
mess,
in
fact
I'm
in
communication,
with
traffic
of
Transportation.
Z
Z
That's
going
to
put
more
density
and
more
cars
where
we
can't,
if
we
can't
afford
to
have
any
more
cars
right
now
so
I
asked
you
know,
I
understand,
I
sympathize
with
this
plop
down
that
way,
doesn't
travel
back
and
forth
down
those
roads
and
does
not
understand
how
bad
our
traffic
issue
is
every
morning
and
every
afternoon,
so
I
asked
that
you
please
vote
against
this.
Thank.
H
E
Actually
is
a
slightly
different,
slightly
higher
density,
but
it
equates
to
single-family
vs.
multifamily
at
roughly
six
units
an
acre,
so
the
dr6
is
multifamily
at
six
units.
An
acre
and
the
sr6
is
roughly
single-family
at
six
units
an
acre.
So
there
would
be
a
couple
more
units
there
by
virtue
of
the
change.
H
H
AA
B
E
D
B
AA
You,
my
name
is
Matt
chambers,
I
do
own
the
property
and
I
do
live
in
West
Ashley
I
am
aware
of
the
traffic
out
there.
Currently,
it's
zoned
sr6
and
by
zoning
density
I
could
potentially
put
three
or
four
properties,
but
I
do
have
to
install
a
call
to
Saks
5th
eat
wide
by
180
feet
long
and
to
do
so,
you
have
to
cut
down
28
trees,
I
think
to
do
so.
AA
So
with
the
zoning
change
to
dr
six,
the
the
my
plan
is
to
put
three
units
towards
the
back
of
the
back
of
the
property
that
you
can
access
with
a
drive
and
really
reduce
the
amount
of
trees
that
that
are
impacted.
It
I,
I,
guess
in
a
it
will
impact
traffic
but
I
suppose
that
wasn't
the
consideration
during
the
owning
request
for
change,
but
that
would
that's.
It
really
appreciate
y'all's
time
and
consideration.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
AA
G
G
G
E
B
B
E
E
Okay,
so
multi-family
residential
was
back
here
on
Magwood.
You've
got
the
senior
housing
the
mayor
mentioned
across
the
street.
Then
you've
got
single-family
back
here.
You
actually
have
a
mobile
home
park
here,
which
is
fairly
dense.
You
can
see
multiple
mobile
homes
and
then
the
commercial,
that's
along
Ashley,
River
Road.
W
Z
The
the
congestion
is,
you
have
a
lot
of
I
mean
everybody
that
lives
in
shadow
Moss
either
comes
through
that
area
or
parallel.
You
know
everything
everything
west
of
526
is
coming
through
that
area.
Basically,
now
a
lot
of
them
are
coming
down.
Glenn
McConnell,
there's
a
ton
of
people
that
cut
through
this
neighborhood
back
through
here,
so
there's
a
lot
of
traffic,
even
though
beechwood
sometimes
there's
traffic
all
through
there,
because
people
are
scrambling
to
try
to
find
where
they
can
get
out
of
the
traffic.
Z
All
of
the
time
you
know
I
know:
councilman
Griffin
has
said
that
he
comes
through
that
way.
Sometimes,
and
sometimes
he
goes
the
other
way.
You
know
when,
when
he's
coming
in
the
mornings
or
or
in
the
evenings,
he'll
go
either
way.
So
it's
just
that
there
are
thousands
of
people
all
trying
to
go
in
the
same
direction
from
multiple
neighborhoods
and
I
mean
it's
a
traffic
issue
that
I
don't
think
we
have
anywhere
else
anyway.
W
E
It's
tough
to
know
completely
without
the
full
survey
and
dimensions
and
knowing
where
the
trees
are
and
things,
but
it
sure
looks
to
me,
like
you,
probably
could
get
about
two
single-family
houses
with
a
road-going
in
there.
That
is,
of
course,
gonna
take
out
a
lot
of
trees,
50
foot
right
away,
all
that
kind
of
thing,
and
then
you
know
you'd
have
a
couple
of
house:
Lots
I
think
it
should
meet
that.
So
you
know
two.
B
W
U
X
C
C
B
Respectfully
that
the
number
of
cars
would
be
the
Delta
the
difference
of
what
you
can
build
on
it
with
single-family
and
versus
the
multifamily,
so
yeah,
maybe
eight.
But
if
you
had
two
homes
on
it
you
might
have
four
or
five
cars,
so
the
Delta
is
two
or
three
I
used
to
visit.
Miss
wineglass
here
she
lived
here
for
about
six
years
and
I
was
in
and
out
of
the
property
a
lot,
and
so
you
can.
B
You
can
easily
make
a
right
on
the
61
where
you
get
hung
up
is
when
you'd
come
out
of
nursing
home.
If
you
were
trying
to
take
a
left
to
go
out
towards
Summerville
I,
never
experienced
any
difficulty
trying
to
turn
back
towards
town,
which
is
where
I
was
normally
headed
so
but
you're
right
at
61.
Is
it
the
congested
Road?
It's
not
so
much
beechwood
and
all
due
respect,
it's
more
61!
That's
where
the
the
congestion
we
all
know
about
is
so
well.
Z
It
averages
you're
not
going
to
have
a
you're
not
going
to
have
an
issue
at
all.
It's
when
people
are
trying
to
get
to
work
or
trying
to
get
home
from
work.
You
know
that
that
time
period
between
7
a.m.
and
probably
8:30
a.m.
and
then
in
the
evenings
between
4:30
and
6:00
o'clock,
probably
is
when
it's
just
no
one
can
move
and
itself.
C
AA
C
So
councilmember
Sealy,
maybe
we'll
have
enough
time.
That
means
you
can
roll
our
sleeves
up
and
try
to
find
some
way
to
make
this
work,
because
this
gentleman
right
here
I
actually
really
like
to
see
entrepreneurship
as
somebody
who's
going
to
roll
up
their
sleeves
and
do
it
themselves
and
be
a
pet
project,
especially
that
it
could
actually
be
a
really
good
piece
of
property
once
he
finishes
it.
So
that
kind
of
gives
me
a
little
bit
less
heartburn.
Knowing
that
he's
gonna,
do
it
himself?
Maybe
you
and
I
can
sit
down
with
mr.
C
Benjamin
and
the
mayor
and
see
if
we
can
find
some
get
with
d-o-t
again
and
see
if
we
can
get
some
relief
on
impact
at
least
find
everything
we
can
know
about.
Mag
that
mag
would
61
like
sighs.
I
swear,
maybe
I'm
crazy,
but
that
light
just
never
seems
to
be
in
sync
with
the
rest,
all
right,
councilmember.
B
U
Miss
mayor
just
really
briefly,
the
irony
of
this
is
that
this
property
owner
of
mr.
chambers
right
is
getting
hit
by
dense
development
all
around
him
and
all
the
traffic
that's
coming
through.
It's
he's
not
creating
the
problem.
The
problem
was
created
for
him
and
now
he's
sitting
here
and
we're.
What
if
things
were
doing
having
this
debate
is
we're
hitting
the
value
of
his
property,
so
I
mean
welcome
to
City
Council
I.
Do
think
the
best
thing
to
do.
U
U
Do
you
like
cars
like
trees,
better
I
mean
he's
already
told
it's
gonna
cut
down
a
bunch
of
trees
to
build
single-family
houses,
that's
not
so
attractive,
he's
gonna,
add
maybe
two
or
three
more
cars
with
the
townhouses,
but
the
issue
is
really
around
him
and
and
for
for
this
property
owner
to
not
gave
the
same
treatment
as
everybody
else
because
of
what's
going
around
to
him.
I
think
we
just
need
to
think
about
it
a
little
bit
more.
U
B
B
E
This
is
an
item,
it's
an
ordinance
amendment
for
the
zoning
ordinance
to
add
alternates
to
our
design,
review
board
and
also
to
prioritize
placement
of
affordable
workforce
housing
projects
on
the
agendas
and
also
to
limit
the
number
of
agenda
items.
It
does
add
two
alternates:
it
limits
the
agendas
to
ten
items
and
it
prioritizes
affordable
in
workforce
housing.
I
was
recommended
approval
by
staff,
of
course,
and
Planning
Commission
six
to
zero.
So
would.
L
Stuck
around
for
this
one
I
was
at
the
Charles.
The
water
sisters
meeting
with
the
mayor
on
the
21st
councilman
Waring
I
must
submit
this
with
a
record
of
my
concern
for
this
issue
under
Planning
Enabling
Act,
we're
talking
in
terms
of
changing
a
body
but
I
have
a
deeper
concern
in
terms
of
the
last
public
comment
was
epic:
we
have
20
million
dollars
in
affordable
housing
dollars
right
now,
we
can
begin
to
start
negotiating
at
20
million
dollars
in
this
deal
immediately.
L
Secondly,
my
concern
for
this
is
over
the
years.
Zoning
and
planning
has
been
a
part
of
the
Justice
Department's
determination
of
voting
districts
so
before
2021.
These
zonings
and
entitlements
are
not
a
part
of
the
process
in
determining
districts.
So
what
I'm?
Looking
at
from
like
1990,
something
when
you
were
economic
development
director
back
and
in
terms
of
trying
to
figure
out
well
how
this
all
happen?
How
does
owning
entitlements
use
to
reduce
or
dilute
a
base
since
we're
race
neutral
right,
because
we
got
three
seats
lost?
We
got
a
great
solution.
L
We
got
to
have
some
evidence
of
being
race
neutral
with
these
boards
and
commissions
and
guarding
housing,
so
always
race,
neutral
Rob.
That's
the
question.
It's
not
really
an
answer.
I
asked
Justice
Department
in
my
comments
to
them
when
in
2020
for
the
for
redistricting
Kalidas
lost
like
a
seat
right
I,
don't
know
how
we
lost
the
seat,
but
I'm
access
question
as
far
as
ethics,
it
you've
spent
ninety
eight
dollars
per
vote.
That's
like
a
million
dollars
like
a
million
dollars
or
two
elections,
so
the
question
becomes.
L
P
AB
Yes,
one
thing:
I've
been
arguing
over
the
years
we
talked
about
producing,
affordable
housing.
This
give
us
the
opportunity
for
them
to
kind
of
work
with
our
foldable
island
staff
in
order
to
get
this
moving
along
good.
So
I
am
so
happy
to
see
this
on
the
agenda.
My
last
year's
City
Council,
but
I'm
glad
it's
there.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You
and
I
would
like
to
share
with
Council
that
we've
developed
on
the
staff
level,
even
on
permit
approvals
and
things
that
don't
go
to
the
board,
that
if
it's
an
affordable
housing
matter,
we
put
like
a
red
sticker
on
it
and
it
goes
to
the
top
of
the
stack
with
whatever
staff
approval.
Now
it
needs.
So
we
are
in
addition
to
this
matter
of
prioritizing
on
a
staff
level
as
well.
Councilmember
wearing
I
have.
G
E
I
think
more
dar
we've
had
alternates,
it's
been
very
successful
because
a
full-time
member
of
the
DAR
is
a
significant
commitment
of
time.
The
alternates
only
have
to
do
so.
You
get
more
a
greater
pool
of
applicants
who
are
willing
to
do
the
occasional
meeting
versus
two
meetings
a
month
as
var
has
an
SD
RB
has,
but
the
reality.
G
Is
the
full-time
members
will
inform
because
they
have
no
institutional
knowledge
of
what
has
come
in
the
past,
that
they
used
that
knowledge
to
make
decisions
on
going
forward
and
the
design
review
pilot?
Quite
frankly,
that's
what
distinguishes
us
from
the
difference
between
something
being
developed
in
the
county
and
having
a
much
better
product
if
it's
done
in
the
city
and
it's
most
effective
in
the
areas
west
of
the
peninsula,
West,
Ashley,
James,
island
and
certainly
John
zone,
so
I'd
be
in
favor
of
expanding
the
bullet.
So
we
can
have.
G
It
still
would
accomplish
the
same
thing.
Mister
I
mean
walking
it
would
it
would
you
would
have,
but
how
many
board
members
we
have
on
the
DRB?
Now
it's
seven.
Okay!
Suppose
we
went
to
nine
members.
It
would
enable
that
five
or
that
quorum
to
be
achieved
better
and
hopefully,
instead
of
hanging
around
just
in
case.
Somebody
can't
make
a
meeting.
Those
people
would
be
engaged
because
they're
getting
packages
all
the
time,
I
just
kind
of
think.
We
need
to
expand
the
board,
as
opposed
to
maybe
I
go
to
the
meeting
on.
G
G
That's
my
regular
member
as
we
go
about
revitalizing
West's
assets,
people
that
come
around
that
design
review
board.
Some
people
say
this
is
the
closest
things
we
we
have
to
a
bar
Ashley
as
we
all
areas
off
the
peninsula
yeah
one
people,
that's
gonna,
be
engaged
on
what
somebody
who's
just
filling
in.
R
On
this
man,
you're
correct
and
Christopher
mentioned
the
reasons
before
as
well,
when
we,
if
you
recall,
when
we
reworked
the
board
of
architectural
review,
the
VAR
was
in
fact
a
larger
board
and
we
brought
in
DPZ
and
company
and
they
did
a
thorough
study.
They
went
to
the
meetings
and
one
of
the
things
they
said
is
that
the
design
boards
are
different
from
the
other
boards,
the
zoning
boards
or
council
or
Planning
Commission,
because
they
have
a
highly
subjective
discussion.
It's
about
design
their
roles,
the
rude.
R
The
rules
of
the
road
are
very
different
for
them,
and
they
said
our
experts.
Dpz
said
a
smaller
group
can
have
a
more
informed
discussion
and
that's
why
we
actually
reduced
the
size
and
created
the
alternate
and
a
BA
R.
It
has
worked
so
well
and
getting
a
quorum
is
tough
for
these
groups,
for
the
design
boards,
specifically
and
so
having
a
smaller
group
means
you
have
a
smaller
quorum.
So
it's
worked
well
for
BA
R.
We
actually
did
the
opposite.
We
reduced
it.
Well,.
G
The
Stephens
responsibilities
that
go
in
front
of
each
board
are
different,
but
we
actually
have
ten
people
driving
those
type
issues
that
would
go
in
front
of
either
the
lodge
BR,
the
small
beer,
yeah
I'm
saying
the
same
thing
here.
We
didn't
we
just
another
amendment,
we
reduced
what
responsibilities
went
to
each
each
organization
or
each
Commission
committee.
G
And
that's
why
they
can
have
those
engaged
discussions,
because
they
don't
haven't
that
volume
of
work
going
in
front
of
one
committee.
It's
down
the
responsibilities
have
been
split,
so
they
can
have
that
engaged
discussion
and
that's
what
we
need:
Wes
Ashley
and
James
Islands
as
we
go
about
revitalizing.
G
H
You
mr.
mayor
I,
I'm
entertained
by
your
proposition
councilman
wearing
and
in
terms
of
maybe
maybe
it's
time
to
look
at
the
you
know,
splitting
the
responsibilities
into
small
and
large
DRB
as
well
I
I
came
here
expecting
that
I'm
I
was
gonna.
Ask
the
council
to
consider
putting
on
the
fast
track,
along
with
affordable
housing
deals.
That
must
be
fast-tracked.
There's
no
question
about
that.
H
But
my
additional
request
is
that
we
would
consider
fast
tracking,
locally
owned
small
business
I,
accompanied
my
son-in-law
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
and
going
through
a
process
of
purchasing
property
and
having
it
just
literally
redesigned
and
site
permitted.
So
he
can
open
a
soft-serve
ice
cream
cone
shop
on
st.
Andrews
Boulevard
you
go,
then
I
have
to
go
to
turbo
in
the
spring
when
it
opens
up,
and
it
was
the
most
I
mean
it
was
the
the
best
Learning
Lab
I
could
I
could
offer
to
myself
in
understanding
every
hurdle.
H
But
it
was
torturous
for
me
to
watch
him
have
to
go
through
the
subjective
process,
especially
of
the
design
review
in
in
the
the
absenteeism,
and
these
were
wonderful
people
and
they're
all
talented
and
creative
in
careers
and
their
own
dedication
to
what
they
contribute
to
the
city's
design
review
process.
But
he
had
to
go
to
three
meetings:
three
meetings
for
a
standalone
business
where
he
wasn't
even
tearing
down
a
building.
He
just
wanted
to
put
up
a
covered
patio
that
had
some
style
to
it.
H
So
the
first
meeting
you
went
to
they,
they
loved
his
overall
concept,
but
they
were
nitpicking
about
will.
Should,
though,
the
original
building
be
painted
to
match
the
decor
of
the
covered
patio
and
then
they
agreed.
No,
it
wasn't
going
to
be
painted
well
the
next
meeting
that
he
had
to
go
to
because
he
got
conditions.
The
person
who
who
who
battered
away
the
the
old
building
needs
to
be
painted
to
match.
He
wasn't
there
and
the
person
who
made
the
argument
that
it
should
be
painted
was
there,
and
so
they
switched
and
said.
H
Oh
yeah,
now
you
have
to
paint
the
building.
I
mean
I
thought
I
was
in
you
know
yeah,
so
I
really
feel
like.
We
need
to
fast-track
small
local
business.
It's
the
kind
of
you
know.
It
is
the
opportunity
that
we
all
went
for
Charleston
and
we
should
put
them
right
up
there
with
affordable
housing,
but
I
do
think.
Maybe
we
should
have
a
small
and
a
large
you
know
set
of
committees.
I
think
that
really
might
because
the
other
thing
was.
H
It
was
a
15
item
agenda,
the
first
time
he
went,
he
was
number
15
and
they
spent
an
hour
and
a
half
on
the
addition
to
the
West
Ashley
Circle
shopping
center.
You
know
that
was
that
was
hogging
everyone's
creativity
for
that
night,
so
I
I
do
think
there
would
be
some
merit
and
taking
a
leaf
out
of
the
BA
R.
So
let's
start
with
that,
I
would
vote
to
defer
this
tonight.
A
X
Gonna
voted
to
defer
it
and
I
would
recommend
that
this
is
something
maybe
the
revalidation
Commission
should
be
aware
of.
His
should
go
follow
that
Commission
for
some
comment
on
this,
because
what
Jackson's
been
talking
about
has
been
a
source
of
some
pain
by
other
folks
about
how
the
process
works,
but
that
is
an
important
board
that
needs
to
be
in
tune
with
the
plan
West
Ashley.
B
E
P
E
B
Would
at
first
would
anyone
like
to
be
heard
on
this
matter?
Hearing
none,
it
comes
to
council.
We
got
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second
any
discussion,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
thank
you.
We
made
it
through
our
public
hearings
and
next
we
have
our
approval
of
City
Council
minutes
from
October
22nd
of
a
motion
to
approve
any
additions,
deletions
comments,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it.
Next
is
our
citizens
participation
period?
We
only
take
about
30
minutes.
A
B
L
Anthony
G
Bryant
twenty
one,
two,
three
Cortland
Avenue
Jonathan,
a
two:
nine
four
zero
three
letter
from
Scott
s:
Harris
Kirk
go
to
Supreme
Court
for
Chief
Justice
Roberts,
now
with
the
school
in
the
Maryland
DC
area.
The
question
this
is
one
letter
here
you
can
have
honest
education,
so,
let's
get
into
the
nineteen
ninety
something
it
was
a
property
that
I
sold
to
the
city
of
Charleston
years
ago.
L
That
property
was
transferred
to
Charleston
County
School
District
I
was
Dez
that
question
at
that
time,
and
the
night
I
lived
downtown
in
the
1990s,
so
I
lived
in
the
city
of
Charleston
in
1993
and
he
dispelled
rumors
I
filed
a
public
comment
or
a
complaint
against
city
of
Charleston
to
each
also
water
systems,
soccer
Port,
Authority,
the
EPA
and
others.
Based
on
the
work
that
I'm
doing,
you
should
be
able
to
sense.
L
Your
point
of
view,
no
matter
who
you
work
for
the
scent
is
a
part
of
America
and
I
will
patita
dissent,
no
matter
who
the
president
is,
who
the
governor's
or
wherever
you
are
okay.
So
this
right
here
is
mother
and
I.
Didn't
get
my
mail
as
well
under
the
assumptions
from
the
court,
so
I
missed
my
turn
to
rule
forty
four
point:
six,
okay,
so
I
missed
my
turn.
So
I
files
rice
complain
on
that.
L
This
is
my
gmail
account
Google's
up
there
taking
all
the
water
and
aquifers
and
I
filed
a
claim
against
them
against
DHEC
as
well
they're
taking
all
the
water
for
poor
people.
So
this
is
what
we're
dealing
with
the
water
rights,
civil
rights
of
water,
social
media,
there's
no
component
Justice
Department
for
for
for
social
media,
Justice
Department,
and
then
those
components
are
John
de
casas,
Kowski
I'm,
and
this
is
what
we're
dealing
with
this
is
what
I'm
working
on.
Thank
you
for
your
service
in
time.
Thank.
P
Here
we
go
again.
We
got
four
more
years
now
we're
to
pull.
No
we'll
have
trouble.
I
have
a
petition
here
and
reacts
in
the
mail,
because
we
don't
want
the
same
thing
that
happened
in
Egypt
under
a
half,
the
Alexander's
are
great,
they
put
a
statue
up
there
and
people
beg
them
to
take
this
statue
down
and
it
wouldn't
take
the
statue
down
and
they
end
up
having
a
ride.
P
We
want
this
city
to
take
Calhoun
offered
the
green.
He
does
not
need
that
statue
hands
full
up,
Simmons,
a
great
iron
man.
We
got
him
beneath
the
tree.
Look
like
he
is
being
hung
took
like
he's
being
hung.
He
should
be
raised
up
in
the
air
for
the
good
work
that
he
did
for
black
white,
yellow
and
all
a
good
citizen
and
bad
citizen
of
this
city
so
reacts
in
the
mail
tonight
and
we're
gonna
be
petitioning
him.
Every
time
we
get
here.
Every
meeting
he's
that
he's
gonna
see
us.
P
A
Y
Those
of
us
who
are
here
tonight
to
talk
about
this
topic
are
very
aware
that
the
small
sell
ordinance
was
drafted
and
passed
as
a
result
of
a
lawsuit
filed
against
the
city
of
Charleston
by
the
crown
castle,
and
we
know
that
our
mayor
and
the
City
Council
opposed
crown
castle
as
long
as
possible,
and
it
is
not
your
fault
that
small
cell
infrastructure
is
being
installed
in
our
city.
Please
know
that
we
understand
and
we
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
registered
you
resist
it
as
long
as
was
legally
possible.
We
thank
you.
Y
That
being
said,
parents
and
grandparents
are
becoming
increasingly
alarmed
by
independent
studies
on
the
health
effects
of
wireless
radiation
on
our
children.
One
study
by
our
own
government
found
clear
evidence
of
a
link
between
wireless
radiation
and
cancer.
That
study
was
the
National
Toxicology
program
and
was
concluded
and
published
in
2018.
Two
weeks
ago,
we
found
out
that
milestone.
Communications
has
entered
into
an
agreement
with
Charleston
County
School
District,
to
place
cell
towers
on
48
schools
within
its
jurisdiction.
Y
As
we
understand
it,
the
first
step
in
the
process
is
to
gain
permission
from
the
sites
where
the
towers
will
be
built,
and
in
this
case
that
will
be
the
schools
where
children
spend
their
time.
We're
contacting
the
members
of
the
SC
daily,
because
only
last
month,
a
school
in
rip
in
California
time
cell
towers
removed
because
their
children
were
dead,
developed
cancer.
AD
I'm
quit
near
enero,
I'm
live
at
27,
Lord,
Ashley
drive,
I'm
gonna
talk
about
the
health
concerns
of
wireless
radiation
and
the
research
that
has
been
done,
showing
it
is
biologically
harmful.
What
if
the
Charleston
Water
Company
told
us,
they
were
adding
a
new
chemical
to
our
water.
That
would
make
our
teeth
straight
and
white,
but
it
had
not
been
tested
for
safety.
What
if
they
claimed
that
it
would
have
great
benefits
and
their
scientist
said
it
should
be
okay,
but
if
it
presents
a
problem,
they
will
address
the
risk
at
that
time.
AD
No
one
would
agree
to
a
new
untested
chemical
being
put
in
the
water
for
their
children
to
be
exposed
to
24/7,
but
that
is
what
we
are
allowing
the
wireless
industry
to
do.
They
have
admitted
that
they
have
not
tested
this
new
technology
and
that
they
have
no
plans
to
test
it.
They
have
no
insurance.
If
health
issues
arise
in
our
children,
insurance
companies
will
not
risk
insuring
the
wireless
industry
for
health
problems
that
may
arise
from
their
technology,
because
studies
on
wireless
radiations
show
it
does
cause
health
issues.
AD
Insurance
companies
are
in
the
business
to
make
money,
not
pay
it
out
which
they
know
they
would
have
to
do,
but
even
if
they
did
have
insurance
to
cover
medical
expenses,
how
much
compensation
would
be
enough
to
ease
the
broken
heart
of
a
parent
with
a
sick
child
for
over
20
years,
all
federal
legislation
regulations
regarding
wireless
technologies
have
relied
on
the
claims
that
exposure
to
radiofrequency
microwave
radiation
is
not
harmful
to
humans.
This
claim
has
now
been
proven
false
and
we
will
send
those
studies
to
you.
AE
Olivia,
the
dad
420
Arlington
West
Ashley
I'm
gonna,
go
over
what
the
states
and
other
cities
in
the
US
have
done
to
slow
this
down.
The
louisiana
state
state
legislature
has
passed
a
bill
calling
for
the
Louisiana
Department
of
Environmental
Quality
and
the
Department
Department
of
Health
to
study
the
effects
of
5g
on
the
Environment
and
Public
Health.
I
know
we're
not
Louisiana,
but
we
are
Charleston
South
Carolina,
and
maybe
we
can
do
something.
AE
That's
similar
representative
Anna
issue
introduced
legislation
to
the
Congress
to
overturn
the
FCC
5g
deployment
order,
and
in
August
of
this
year
the
federal
court
of
appeals
ruled
against
the
FCC,
which
had
bypassed
the
inclusion
of
the
environmental
assessment.
Where
needed.
An
environmental
assessment
is
required
in
each
site,
location
application.
We've
asked
Susan
her
Deena
city
attorney.
To
look
at
our
ordinance
applications
to
be
sure
that
the
assessment
is
included,
the
ruling
involves
wetlands
and
Charleston
is
low
country,
so
we
may
have
some
leverage
there.
AE
The
decision
in
this
case
is
important,
because
the
court
found
that
the
deployment
of
hundreds
of
thousands
of
small
cell
wireless
antenna
is
likely
to
have
a
significant
impact
on
the
environment.
That's
a
good
first
step.
Spartanburg
is
also
in
the
process
of
passing
a
stricter
small-cell
ordinance.
AE
AF
M
AF
Sarah
I'm
born
and
raised
in
Charleston
South
Carolina
I
graduated
from
Bishop
England
in
2008
I,
went
to
college
Charleston,
2012
I'm,
raising
my
family
here.
We're
very
concerned
about
this
5ji
issues
and
I
have
three
pages
worth
of
stuff,
we'll
just
submit
the
evidence
from
the
NIH
and
all
these
different
reports
that
show
the
links
to
cancer.
The
thing
that
I
really
want
to,
let
you
know
is
that
the
FCC
has
no
reason
to
regulate
what
they
want
to
put
out.
This
is
a
booming
industry.
AF
They
have
no
doctors,
they
have
no
scientist
so
they're
not
looking
at
any
of
these
studies.
The
important
thing
to
remember
here,
the
FCC
guidelines
is
that
all
of
these
were
made
about
30
years
ago
on
one
220
pound
male
from
a
distance
from
one
antenna.
Now
you've
got
them
in
your
pockets.
Now
they're
not
doing
them
at
distances
high
up.
They
want
them
at
ground
level.
They
want
these
to
be
able
to
go
through
buildings.
AF
These
radiations
that
are
coming
out
of
the
5g
are
a
hundred
times
stronger
than
what
we're
dealing
with
now,
which
is
about
50
times
stronger
than
when
they
originally
wrote
all
these
regulations.
So
we
really
need
to
stop
and
really
need
to
look
back.
We
need
to
tell
them.
We
don't
want
them
here
to
protect
our
children,
to
protect
our
elderly
infants.
Fetuses
immuno
compromised,
there's
so
many
people
this
could
affect,
including
AJ
who's
gonna
go
next.
AF
This
is
my
other
half
and
he
suffers
with
EMF
radiation
illnesses
and
he'll
share
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
But
it's
very
important
to
me
that
this
doesn't
happen
to
our
kids
and
as
I
get
stronger.
It's
gonna
start
to
affect
all
of
us
in
some
more
ways
as
what's
happening
with
him.
Thank
you
for
your
time
on
your
public
service.
AG
Good
evening
my
name
is
AJ
Gardner
I'm,
a
member
of
CCSD
staff
working
the
operational
planning
I'm,
an
auditorium
manager
for
the
districts,
one
and
two
I'm
gonna
touch
base
on
the
wireless
industry
and
the
effects
the
EMF
in
5g
are
having
on
the
human
body.
So
for
many
years
the
wireless
industry
has
been
feeding
falsified
information
to
the
public.
If
you
notice,
if
you
have
AT&T
your
18t
phones,
are
already
telling
you
that
you
have
5g
enabled
on
your
phone.
AG
It
is,
it
is
a
mental
game
for
the
industry
and
the
FCC
is
actually
led
by
leaders
of
the
energy
of
entertainment.
Excuse
me,
the
wireless
industry
technology
is
being
pushed
into.
Our
community
is
not
safe.
The
wireless
industry
is
currently
succeeding,
as
the
tobacco
industry
is
done
for
years
as
well
as
we
are
finding
out
similar
results
as
asbestos
that
we
ignored
for
a
long
time
and
we're
in
our
schools
and
we're
exposing
to
our
children
that
we
pushed
off
and
neglected,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
stop
that.
AG
I'm,
just
gonna
throw
this
away.
I,
don't
I,
don't
need
it.
The
the
people
that
are
telling
us
that
it's
ok
are
funding
their
own
research
studies
that
are
actually
counterproductive
to
what's
actually
being
done
and
studied.
We
actually
have
documentation
dating
back
to
1880,
once
Edison
starting
putting
electricity
in
the
buildings
of
electoral
electric
illness.
AG
So
the
first
document
of
issues
started
in
1880
when
they
were
operating
on
low
frequencies
of
3
Hertz
to
30,
30
Hertz
and
then,
as
electricity
expanded
in
the
United
States,
you
started
seeing
what
they
called
American
itis
time,
not
gonna,
stop
sorry.
This
is
important.
You
need
to
hear
it
and
I
respect
the
time
and
I'm
sorry,
but
we
need
to
go
through.
AG
Wanda,
please
please
listen
to
us
and
give
us
more
than
90
seconds.
We
will
be
more
than
happy
to
come
and
sit
down
with
you,
because
this
is
what
you're
here
to
do,
and
this
is
an
issue
that
has
been
voted
on
without
us
being
aware
of
it.
The
Charleston,
County
School
District,
is
telling
it's
a
different
thing.
Thank.
AG
P
A
N
Good
evening
Christopher,
king
of
the
preservation,
Saudi,
would
like
to
speak
quickly
to
the
amendment
to
section
54
943
and
continue
to
be
concerned
with
this
matter,
as
it
comes
to,
Council
is
really
not
enabled
any
public
participation
and
given
the
magnitude
of
what
we're
really
talking
about,
I
want
to
express
great
concern
of
that.
We've
reviewed
the
attorney
general's
opinion,
and
it's
just
that
it's
an
opinion.
It
is
significant
to
note
that
there
is
no
binding,
South
Carolina
precedent
addressing
the
core
question
of
a
supermajority.
N
Well,
the
AG's
opinion
obviously
has
value,
it's
not
the
product
of
an
adversary,
proceeding
in
which
factual
and
legal
positions
are
contested
and
it's
not
binding
on
any
court.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
though,
this
is
a
local
issue
and
I
want
to
speak
to
that.
Last
summer
we
had
the
benefit
to
participate
in
a
stakeholder
meeting
called
by
councilmember
wearing
where
a
number
of
you
were
present
and
we
felt
like
it
was
a
very
productive
first
conversation,
and
we
were
sure
that
this
was
the
beginning
of
an
ongoing
dialogue.
N
N
AH
AH
AH
Magwood
doesn't
surprise
me
at
all,
I
mean
these
people
need
to
get
off.
Their
lazy
rears
get
out
at
6
o'clock
in
the
morning
when
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
coming
up,
17
and
figure
out
how
to
get
these
lights,
correct
I
mean
it's
not
rocket.
Science
I
know
I
have
a
degree
in
rocket
science.
It's
ridiculous,
a
five
year
old
to
do
a
better
job
than
these
guys.
As
for
storm
water,
stuff
came
down
town
today
this
evening
and
I
looked
at
in
the
curb
there
drop
inlets
every
one
of
them
on
the
overpass.
AI
Thank
You
mr.
mayor
and
relay
Craven
Avenue,
but
I
represent
the
historic
Ralston
foundation.
I
come
to
you
tonight
to
express
our
opposition
to
the
ordinance
amendment
regarding
the
votes
required
for
city
council
to
overturn
a
disapproval
recommendation
by
the
Planning
Commission.
That's
item
number
two
under
bills
for
first
reading.
The
foundation
has
consistently
opposed
this
measure
when
it's
come
up
previously
and
we
continue
to
oppose
it
on
the
basis
that
we
believe
that
it
politicizes
the
planning
process
and
subverts
an
important
safeguard
to
the
planning
process.
AI
We
look
forward
to
an
opportunity
to
work
with
council
planning,
commission
members,
city
staff
and
other
stakeholders
to
develop
policies
via
effective
legal
and
apolitical
meet
measures
with
proper
public
input
that
is
fair
to
all
citizens
in
our
community
and
we
hope
to
work
with
Council
in
this
on
this
measure
in
the
coming
year.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
Just
thinking
about
this,
just
now
on
what
we
talked
about
earlier
about
the
emitted
agenda,
how
did
we
already
put
out
the
agenda
for
next
week
when
we
haven't
even
voted
for
first
or
second
reading?
Couldn't
we
theoretically?
What?
If
we
voted
down
every
item
under
first
reading?
Whitner
agenda
has
to
be
completely
redone
well,.
B
C
C
B
G
B
AJ
Resiliency
and
sustainability,
Advisory
Committee
met
on
November,
14th
and
I'm
here
to
just
provide
a
quick
recap
of
what
happened
at
the
meeting.
Nine
of
13
members
were
present.
The
first
item
on
the
agenda
was
about
our
single
use:
plastic
transition
program.
I
went
over
the
business
workshops
we
held
to
the
end
of
October.
We
had
about
50
members
present
and
we
received
some
great
feedback
from
businesses
about
those
workshops.
AJ
Next
on
the
agenda
was
sustainability
next
step
and
we
reviewed
an
audit
of
the
2010
Charleston
green
plan.
We
looked
at
some
of
the
initiatives
and
what
had
been
completed
so
far
and
what
was
still
pending
and
we
just
had
a
just.
We
had
a
discussion
with
the
whole
committee
about
what
were
some
priorities.
We
might
want
to
consider
for
next
year
and
the
goal
is
to
bring
an
action
plan
of
those
back
to
City
Council
in
quarter.
One
of
some
of
the
initiatives
that
we
may
consider
pursuing
that
were
part
of
the
green
plan.
AJ
Next
on
the
agenda
was
Charleston.
Rainproof
and
I
gave
a
quick
update
on
the
pilot
project.
We
have
a
great
group
of
volunteers
in
the
old
Windermere
neighborhood,
that's
offered
to
them,
install
some
rain,
gardens
and
rain
barrels,
so
we're
working
with
them
to
do
site
analysis
with
certified,
mastering
gardeners
and
seeking
some
ways.
We
can
help
incentivize
more
participation
in
the
program.
AJ
Next
on
the
agenda
was
a
update
to
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
Peninsula
flood
risk
mitigation
study.
Erin
Holly
gave
this
update
and
he
provided.
He
mentioned
that
the
economics
analysis
is
wrapping
up
and
the
projects
on
schedule
to
complete
to
have
a
tentatively
selected
plan
and
a
public
meeting
in
the
January
February
time
frame.
So
stay
tuned
for
that,
and
then
we
talked
about
the
adopted
rain
project
and
we
gave
an
update.
There
are
158
drains
that
have
been
adopted
so
far
and
the
committee
had
a
discussion
on
ways.
H
AJ
B
Any
other
questions
for
mr.
Kane.
Thank
you
very
much.
Erin
she's,
doing
a
terrific
job
and
I
must
tell
you
that
the
even
the
public
comments
were
very
appreciative
of
the
fact
that
we
were
in
fact
going
back
through
the
green
plan
and
identifying
those
things
that
we
can
continue
to
work
on
and
it
was.
It
was
very
well
received
all
right
now
for
our
council
committee
reports,
Committee
on
Public
Works,
council
member
wearing
Thank.
G
The
Committee
on
Public
Works
met
on
Monday
and
on
item
P
I,
the
indefinite
delivery
contract
allowance
was
increased
from
300,000
to
450,000.
It
passed
unanimously
me
give
you
a
little
information
to
win
when
we
contract
with
companies
to
do
these
emergency
repairs
right
now,
some
of
them
are
going
beyond
300,000.
This
is
a
to
help
expedite
that
process
up.
We
know
that
it
needs
to
be
done.
G
B
G
The
remaining
I
two
three
four
and
five
I'm
asked
and
abbreviated
in
particular
one.
Well,
no,
no,
let
me
say
this
now
on
the
first
meeting
of
council,
if
you
remember,
we've
agreed
to
an
elongated
explanation
of
the
mainly
stormwater
project
we
have
going
on
and
doing
the
second
meeting
of
the
month.
It's
I
call
it
the
Cliff
Notes
version,
but
there
a
couple
of
ones,
I
think
in
particular
Simmons
and
Rutledge.
Mr.
Taunton,
can
you
come
and
address
that
the
councilman
Lewis
and
Gregory
and.
AK
The
Simmons
of
rutledge
work
update
that
is
basically
the
system
on
Rutledge
Avenue
from
poplar
to
Gordon.
We
did
go
out
investigate
that
area,
find
areas
that
work
showing
signs
of
flooding
and
likely
by
likely
pipe
failures.
So
we
do
have
quotes
coming
in
from
contractors
under
those
I
DC's
to
do
the
cleaning
and
camera
work
we
have.
One
quote
were
waiting
for
the
second
quote
and
at
that
point
we'll
be
able
to
move
forward
with
doing
the
camera
work
by
inspection.
B
X
You
mr.
mayor,
we
met
yesterday
afternoon
at
4
o'clock,
we
received
an
update
from
the
Missal
Quartus
administration
regarding
the
number
of
backlog
of
DUI
cases
and
other
general
criminal
cases.
We
have
on
our
budget
a
for
approval
that
will
take
up
at
some
point
later,
the
next
month,
a
appropriations
for
a
DUI,
dedicated
judge
and
DUI
dedicated
prosecutor.
X
The
report
we
received
also
included
a
dedicated
DUI
docket
and
the
implementation
of
pretrial
conferences
both
for
DUI
related
offenses
and
for
non
DUI
related
offenses
as
well,
and
we
ask
them
to
come
back
with
another
report.
I
totally
quarterly.
So
we'll
get
another
update
to
see
how
this
is
working.
Those
implementations
should
go
into
effect
immediately
and
hopefully
we
get
a
new
judge,
a
new
prosecutor
on
board
the
first
of
the
year.
The
other
item
that
regarding
an
ordinance
to
amend
chapter
2
regarding
responsibilities,
has
been
deferred
to
our
December
meeting
right.
B
B
T
T
However,
we
had
a
lengthy
discussion
with
regard
to
Stoney
feel
and
we
did
have
some
discussion
from
legal
and
what
we
want
to
do
as
a
a
body
is
to
look
at
several
alternatives
with
regard
to
the
naming
of
one
of
our
facilities
for
James
Lewis,
but
hopefully,
by
the
end
of
the
day,
we
may
be
able
to
take
care
of
that
doing
ways
and
means
all
other
items
were
just
up
for
discussion,
B
and
C
actually
be.
We
need
to
vote
from
this
body.
B
B
J
B
J
B
G
G
The
name
will
be
that's,
gonna,
be
an
affordable
housing
project,
that's
gonna,
be
there
be
built
there.
We
voting
the
money
tonight
and
very
unique
process
project.
There
will
be
64
units,
Michelle,
Johnson's
left,
you
remember
the
amount
it's
gonna
cost.
Mr.
mayor
I
don't
skate
to
do
you
remember
councilman
movie,
Oh,
miss
Jackson,
the.
G
Thank
you
that's
motion.
Thank
you.
This
is
new
to
a
lot
of
councilmembers
table
as
we
just
started
talking
about
it
after
the
real
estate
meeting,
but
I
would
hold
by
acclamation.
We
should
be
able
to
move
fault
with
that
and
not
send
that
to
a
committee
full
of
that
type.
Recognition
I
mean
the
voice
of
the
voiceless.
You
know
I
still
remember,
and
many
of
us
do.
When
the
cab
rates
were
gonna,
go
up
to
three
times
I
see
our
clerk,
a
council
nodding
her
head.
She
doesn't
even
know
she's
doing
it.
G
All
of
us
have
cars
around
this
table.
I
can't
tell
you
the
last
time,
I
caught
a
cab
in
Charleston
and
go
from
point
A
to
point
B
little
as
councilman
Lewis
death
stood
up
and
said,
wait
a
minute.
You
all
aren't
thinking
about
those
people
that
work.
The
second
shift
they
get
off
from
these
hospitals
at
11
o'clock,
11:30
at
night
and
Carter
has
quit
running
you're,
not
thinking
about
the
restaurant
work.
There's
other
people
like
clean
the
sheets
and
does
the
wash
and
the
dishes
over
at
the
hotel
industry.
It
was
councilman
Lewis.
G
That
said,
hey
we
Naaman
and
you
all
know,
you've
seen
the
people
that
come
to
this
microphone
owes
off
to
people
that
come
and
sign
up
for
public
comment.
That's
the
voice,
that's
the
consideration,
that's
the
humanity,
their
counsel
movies
brought
to
this
chamber.
It
made
me
a
better
councilman,
because
that
night,
I,
probably
I,
was
started.
Thinking
about
insurance
on
cars,
gas
on
cars,
maintenance
on
cars,
I
did
not
think
about
the
second
shift.
G
I
did
not
think
about
the
people
that
did
the
dishes
at
the
hotels,
councilman
Lewis
did
and
it
changed
the
tide
and
obviously
a
compromise
was
arrived
at
so
when
it
comes
to
the
way
that
councilman,
Lewis
and
Mitchell,
and
certainly
Gregory,
have
talked
about
affordable
housing
having
to
go
on
that
bridge
side
has
been
second
to
none.
The
councilman
Lewis
have
talked
to
us
about
Gatson
green
voting
every
time
against
west
edge
the
lone
voice.
G
What
is
that
done?
It
has
made
us
all
aware
of
something
needing
to
be
done
to
preserve
the
affordable
housing.
It
gasps
in
green
amen
one
voice,
one
lonely
voice,
Oh,
naming
this
affordable
housing
unit,
which
is
hot
off
the
press
he
didn't
know
about,
but
I
would
hope
that
our
council
would
recognize
a
wonderful
public
service
with
a
Christian
who
managed
it
he's
brought
to
this
chamber
every
day.
He
walked
into
itself
amen.
G
B
B
Q
B
Through
7
for
second
reading,
we
have
a
motion
to
take
them
all
together
and
a
second
any
discussion
on
any
of
those
items
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification,
we've
got
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
let's
have
it
so
next
we
have
two
bills
up
first.
Reading
first
bill
is:
is
an
annexation
of
403
Fleming
rode
in
on
James
Island.
B
L
G
You
mr.
mayor
and
I
I
think
you
and
council
for
taking
the
time
to
go
through
and
our
legal
department.
Frankly
the
letter
that
the
legal
department
sent
to
the
attorney
general's
office,
in
my
opinion,
was
second
to
none
I.
Thank
them
them
I,
certainly
thank
them
publicly.
Today.
This
is
an
issue
that
we've
been
frankly
see-sawing
wit
for
three
years
and
I
began
to
say
earlier:
I
certainly
respect
the
Preservation
Society
every
respect,
mr.
King,
to
the
highest,
and
certainly
in
historic
Charleston,
where
we
Charleston
be
without
those
two
organizations.
G
We
wouldn't
be
what
we
are
today
on
the
world
stage.
That
said,
this
law
was
done
and
for
those
new
and
certainly
coming
on
council
when
the
Planning
Commission
denies
something,
and
they
can
deny
it
by
one
vote
for
it
to
be
reversed
by
the
people's
representatives.
As
an
elected
mayor
and
twelve
councilmen,
it
took
75%
of
the
elected
body,
not
seventy.
Five
percent
of
a
quorum
75
percent
of
the
elected
body,
Nos
interesting
ly
that
we
are
now
undergoing
an
impeachment
hearing
to
impeach
the
president
United
States.
G
It
takes
two-thirds
of
the
Senate
two-thirds
of
the
Senate
ten
peach,
the
most
powerful
person
on
the
planet,
but
to
overturn
a
simple
majority
decision
by
a
committee
that
we
appoint
it
took
it.
It
takes
to
this
very
moment,
75%
of
the
total
elected
body
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
Now
that
was
put
in
place
doing
the
Jim
Crow
era
and
as
Americans
and
I
include
myself
in
this,
we
are
great
at
pointing
at
the
other
person
and
saying
you
did
wrong.
You
were
inhuman.
G
G
G
That's
wrong
women
and
minority
businesses.
When
you
think
about
a
rule
that
says
you
have
to
get
75%
of
the
total
of
Lockett
elected
body
who
can
achieve
it?
Only
the
affluent
can
achieve
that.
The
people
that
I
spoke
about
with
councilman,
Lewis
and
I
didn't
know.
I
was
gonna,
bring
this
up
because
I
didn't
know
what
I
was
gonna
say
about
councilman
Lewis,
but
the
voiceless
people.
G
You
think
they
go
people
to
come
in
this
body
and
get
10
votes.
There's
a
gentleman
that
was
on
John's
Island
that
wanted
to
bill
he's
a
he's.
A
Vietnam
veteran
he
family
had
90
acres
on
John's
Island.
You
want
to
put
12
units
over
there
for
affordable
housing
for
disabled
vets.
Came
to
our
planning
department,
our
planning
apartment
recommended
disapproval.
A
Planning
Commission
voted
against
it
for
2/3.
That's
when
he
came
to
me
to
say:
hey,
helped
me
out
and
say
you
should
have
come
sooner
long
story.
G
I
met
with
our
planning
department
and
I
asked.
Why
would
y'all
recommend
disapproval
on
housing
for
disabled
veterans
and
the
answer
from
our
planning
department
was
there's
no
public
transit
that
goes
out
on
Brownsville,
Road
and
I
said
what
makes
you
think
that
every
disabled
veteran
wants
to
live
in
an
urban
setting.
G
G
There
was
a
reason
in
Jim
Crow
era
that
they
put
that
75%
rule
in
place.
I,
don't
know,
I
wasn't
there,
but
I
can
tell
you.
It
exacerbates
gentrification,
and
let
me
tell
you
why
what
normally
happens
number
one
zoning
is
a
complicated
issue
that
average
chalcedonian
does
not
know
how
powerful
zoning
is.
It
can
create
well,
and
it
certainly
can
take
it
away.
G
What
normally
happens
is
a
informed
person
goes
to
a
land
owner
gives
them
a
good
price
for
the
property
under
its
existing
category,
with
the
caveat
or
contingency.
If,
if
I
can
get
the
zoning
change,
I'll
buy
it
at
this
price
and
a
lot
of
times,
they'll
get
them
to
write
a
letter
in
the
case
of
a
non-profit
they'll,
get
that
church
or
that
nonprofit
organization,
so
sometimes
even
have
the
minister
to
come
in
and
say
we
support
this
zoning
change
not
realizing
had
they
gotten
a
zoning
change.
G
G
Unknowingly,
we
have
become
part
of
the
problem.
Other
words
we
help
for
that
gentrified
property
process
to
move
forward.
We
actually
have
in
our
zoning
ordinance
in
particular.
If
you
go
fill
variance
and
if
you
say
you
have
a
financial
hardship,
the
city
of
Charleston
does
not
consider
financial
hardships
and
let
me
tell
you
how
out
of
line
that
is
Internal
Revenue
Service
will
consider
financial
hardship,
but
the
city
of
Charleston.
G
Nobody
who's
that
design
the
hell
who's
it
designed
to
hurt
this.
Seventy
five
percent
rule
hurts
and
hurts
women
and
minority-owned
business
and
by
fact,
I
would
say
to
the
Historic,
Charleston
or
Preservation.
Society
show
me
where
the
seventy
five
percent
rule
have
been
able
to
be
achieved
by
women
minority
owned
businesses.
G
It's
only
been
there
since
the
1930s
we're
a
historic
city.
We
have
was
dead.
Ninety
years
worth
of
history
to
say,
Keith
you're
wrong,
we're
gonna
go
back
in
the
record,
so
we
gonna
prove
to
you
that
all
these
women
minority-owned
businesses
over
the
decades,
all
those
century,
almost
that
have
gotten
turned
down
by
the
Planning
Commission-
was
able
to
come
forward
to
the
elected
body
and
get
it
overturned.
G
We're
better
than
that
as
a
city,
the
small
business
that
that
council
leader,
Jackson,
spoke
about
leaving
out
across
America
creates
more
jobs
than
any
other
single
business
category
in
America
and
that's
the
hurdles
that
we're
making
just
difficult.
So
it
was
this
council
that
voted
three
times
in
the
majority
to
change
that
rule
and
I
heard
respectfully.
We
need
a
task
force,
we
need
discussion,
but
when
we
did
meet,
we
brought
to
this
council
65%
override
Historic,
Charleston
and
Preservation
Society
opposing
we
also
brought
60%.
They
opposed
then,
and
you
say
well,
no
discussions.
G
Facts
should
matter
and
if
something
as
important
as
the
creation
of
wealth
in
our
town
look
what
we're
doing
with
the
epic
Center.
We
made
decisions
tonight
and
we'll
make
a
decision,
hopefully
Tuesday,
that
will
create
tens
of
millions,
if
not
in
excess
of
hundred
a
million
dollars
going
forward,
and
we
made
that
decision
virtually
like
that.
G
But
when
it
comes
to
removing
the
hurdles
of
mr.
Muir
I
didn't
vote
for
it.
You
a
man
enough
to
bring
it
the
city
apologize
for
slavery,
but
the
vestiges
of
the
laws,
the
ordinances
that
were
put
in
place,
doing
Jim
Crow
still
remain,
and
when
we
move
to
change
those
we're
gonna,
get
that
push
back
from
the
Preservation
Society
we're
gonna,
get
that
push
back
from
historic
Charleston
and
people
like
me
put
themselves
up
for
reelection.
You
don't
get
it
friends
out
and
financed
to
try
to
get
rid
of
this
voice.
B
G
Just
a
minute,
many
of
us
have
heard
this
before
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
and
it
was
right,
I
keep
saying
women
and
minority
businesses
with
this
every
small
business
and
that
goes
across
every
color
in
hues.
The
the
gentleman
that
came
in
here
tonight
with
the
rezoning
in
your
district
councilman
chilly,
is
the
very
small
business
person
again
we
hopefully
trying
to
help
and
that
deferral
helped
him
hopefully
be
gonna
work
with
some
solution.
G
A
better
solution,
but
my
point
about
us
being
better
than
the
mindset
in
in
the
1930s
in
2019
we're
better
than
that
and
the
funny
season
is
over
with
the
political
season
is
over
with
and
their
charms
believe
me.
I
have
some
people
in
my
district
that
support
this
I
mean
it
its
foot,
keeping
it
in
place,
but
you
know
what
I
don't
have
any
problem
telling
them
the
reason
why
it
should
be
changed
and
so
I.
G
Thank
this
council
for
three
times
voting
in
the
majority
to
change
that
rule
and
remember
I'm,
asking
for
a
simple
majority
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
there's
a
rationale
for
that?
There's
a
rationale
for
that
structure
of
governance:
madam
Clerk,
how
many
committees
do
we
have
in
the
city
of
Charleston
board
boards
and
committees.
G
That's
right,
Allah,
but
but
a
little
it
suffice
to
say
35
to
40,
okay,
every
last
one
uses
Robert
rules
or
audit
in
to
conduct
business.
Conducts
business
with
a
simple
majority
vote:
the
VAR,
the
large
var,
the
big
PR,
the
Planning
Commission,
the
PZ
a,
and
you
know
what
the
city
of
Charleston
also
system
of
governance
is
with
us
a
simple
majority.
Now
we
go
we
voting
on
the
budget
and
you
know
what
it
takes
a
super
majority
to
pass
the
budget
it
doesn't
take
and
that's
over
200
million
dollars.
G
It
doesn't
take
75%
of
the
total
elected
fine,
so
I
yield
the
floor.
I
ask
for
your
consideration.
I
ask
for
you
to
stand
up
to
your
constituents
who
say
why
are
you
making
the
change
point
out
that
the
challenges
of
West,
Ashley
and
James
Allen
and
John's
Island
not
experiencing
the
identification
that
took
place
with
housing
and
small
businesses
being
removed
from
the
peninsula
won't
happen
with
the
piece
West
Ashley
James
Island
John's
out,
so
zoning
is
powerful
and
let's
make
it
powerful
for
the
meaning
and
not
a
few.
Thank
you.
C
C
However,
I
have
a
feeling
that
I
have
a
hard
time,
believing
in
Historic,
Charleston
or
Preservation,
Society
and
I
respect
both
immensely
they're,
not
gonna,
change
your
mind
on
this
they're
not
and
I
respect
the
reasons
why
they
wouldn't
at
the
same
time
there
is
no
compromise
on
this
either
because
we've
tried
to
compromise,
we
went
65
60,
it
doesn't
work.
We
can
change
this
and
for
anybody
to
say
that
an
Attorney
General's
opinion
is
just
an
opinion.
C
Well,
to
be
honest
with
you,
it's
one
of
the
reasons
why
he's
in
office
is
to
give
opinions
number
one
number
two,
the
majority
of
items
that
come
in
front
of
the
Attorney
General.
He
will
not
give
an
opinion
he
or
she
will
not
give
an
opinion
on
because
they
don't
want
to
get
involved
in
it.
So
for
the
Attorney
General
to
then
give
this
opinion.
Yes,
that's
to
me
stood
out.
C
It
could
have
easily
just
walked
away
from
it,
so
I'm
not
getting
involved
and
then
to
give
an
opinion
that
was
as
interesting
as
the
one
that
I
read
it.
We
would
be
doing
our
citizens
our
residents
a
disservice
to
not
bring
this
back
up
after
getting
that
opinion
back.
You
know.
The
Planning
Commission
is
a
non
elected
body.
It's
the
body
of
individuals
recommended
by
the
mayor
and
approved
by
City
Council.
C
Ultimately,
they
have
no
skin
in
it.
When
it
comes
to
going
back
to
our
districts
and
explaining
the
decision
making
no
skin
whatsoever
they're
protected,
a
citizen
is
not
going
to
have
the
authority
to
go
up
to
them
and
and
and
say
you
know
what
you're
doing
a
poor
job
I'm
going
to
get
you
off
that
the
citizen
could
not
do
that.
A
citizen
could
do
that
to
us
and
as
we've
seen
in
this
ever-changing
political
culture,
our
seats
are
cold.
C
They're,
not
excuse
me
they're
they're,
the
opposite,
they're,
very
warm
where
I'll
not
see
every
single
day,
and
we
should
be
there's
a
high
expectation,
but
how
on
earth
could
we
allow
a
non-elected
body
to
impact
our
decision-making
in
the
way
that
the
Planning
Commission
has
been
able
to
do?
And
you
may
say:
well,
you
know
if
it
ain't
broke,
don't
fix
it!
Well,
it's
broken.
We've
seen
it
time
and
time
again
we
have
had
issues
come
in
front
of
us
that
have
failed
by
one
or
two
votes.
C
We
had
a
majority
that
to
me
just
doesn't
make
sense
and
it's
an
outdated
procedure.
The
Attorney
General
has
weighed
in
and
I'm
all
for
giving
this
first
reading.
I
want
to
keep
hearing.
All
of
the
comments
come
from
everywhere,
because
dialogue
is
good,
but
after
reading
that
attorney
general
opinion,
I
felt
justified
by
my
vote
last
time
around
and
I
will
continue
to
vote
that
way
going
forward.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AB
Look
a
lot
and
myself
on
this
same
matter
and
a
couple
of
other
things.
We
met
with
the
Attorney
General
when
he
went
up
to
Columbia
and
you
know
what
he
said,
that
the
powers,
the
concert
hall
powers
live
in
concert.
We
have
that
responsibility
and
I've
been
saying
this
by
which
I
was
glad
that
come
from
in
the
caring
wearing
decided
to
have
staff
saying
that
later
to
turn
again
rule,
he
said
the
same
thing:
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
times
something
that's
come
here
that
Planning
Commission
have
poured
it
on.
AB
So
we
have
that
responsibility
reflect
for
the
now
feces
right
that
needs
to
come
before
us.
We
need
to
sit
down
on
the
beat
the
issue
and
we
feel
that
we
need
to
make
a
decision.
We
make
that
decision,
whether
we
get
two
votes
or
not,
but
we
would
all
the
rather
say
yes,
I
know
so
I
thank
hassel.
I
really
feel
good.
First,
his
name
taught
me
after
me
and
he
turn
around
and
confirm
what
I
was
trying
to
tell
you,
the
Attorney
General
saying
to
me
and
consignee
mukarat
three
years
ago
side.
W
Thank
you,
and
could
you
really
look
at
this
and
spend
a
little
time
studying
this
rule
or
this
ordinance
it's
in
place?
It
really
doesn't
make
any
sense
the
way
it's
it's
constructed
right
now.
The
Planning
Commission
has
nine
people
and
they
have
a
quorum
of
five
and
they
make
decisions
on
people's
property.
The
zoning
by
a
three-to-two
vote.
They
can
change
whatever
they
want
to
do
or
they
can
deny
something
by
three
to
two
vote,
and
then
it
takes
ten
members
of
this
body.
W
W
You
mean
for
us
to
behave
our
ordinance
that
requires
you
know
we
do
everything
else
as
council
member
we're,
in
said,
with
a
simple
majority,
and
we
have
to
be
here,
we
have
to
participate,
but
you
shouldn't
be
allowed
to
vote
and
be
absent
and
that's
really
what
they
do
if
they
don't
want
to.
What
what
it'd
be
on
record
or
whatever,
so
this
is
correcting
up
to
me,
I'm,
not
sure
why
it
was
done.
W
H
You
mr.
mayor
councilman
wearing.I
tonight,
I-I-I
took
issue
with
a
lot
of
the
arguments
that
you
made
in
similar
veins
earlier
last
year
and
and
the
previous
times
you've
brought
this
up
and
for
whatever
reason,
I
I
gave
it
a
lot
more
thought
today
and
I
really
look
carefully
in
detail
tonight.
But
my
reaction
in
the
earlier
discussions
when
this
has
been
a
really
based,
in
my
experience,
having
been
in
the
land
use
making
decision
making
realm
in
in
places
that.
H
A
H
But
my
my
early
reactions
were
the
fact
that
this
model
for
having
the
kind
of
vote
making
that
we
do
now
comes
from
models
that
were
developed.
You
know
in
the
east
in
the
way
that
states
a
lot
more
advanced
in
Charleston,
put
their
planning
responsibilities
and
took
into
code
for
every
state
and
every
the
palette
II,
and
that's
where,
although
I
don't
know,
what's
wrong
with
my
microphone,
a
lot
of
our
a
lot
of
our
rulemaking
has
come
from
examples
that
were
not
originated
in
the
south.
H
So
I
apologize
to
you
that
I've
been
pretty
stubborn
about
running
stay
with
the
status
quo,
and
today
I
wrote
that
response
to
two
people
that
I'm
sure
way
to
all
of
us,
as
as
stork
Charleston
foundation
members.
So
I'm
going
to
change
my
decision
tonight,
I'm
going
to
give
this
first
reading.
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
have
additional
conversation.
I
do
think.
It's
disappointing
that
you
know
it
was.
It
was
established
that
there
would
be
an
ongoing
discussion
among
the
people
who
have
differences
of
opinion
about
this.
H
Q
I
understand
all
this
is
going
on.
We
was
talking
about
from
Lewiston.
I
was
talking
about
this
a
long
time
ago.
Could
we
were
here
and
I
mean
he's
a
senior
council,
member
and
I'm
next
I
was
here
and
seeing
this
happening
like
I,
keep
telling
people
they
be
talk
about
things
talk
about
this.
This
is
my
home,
where
I
grew
up
in
and
I
tell
people
that
every
day
they
get
tired.
Q
Hear
me
saying
that,
like
I,
tell
my
left
ear
and
came
back
and
I
know
how
Charleston
was
when
I
got
luck
of
25
time
right
here,
demonstrating
trying
to
make
things
different
in
the
civil
rights
movement.
So
these
things
other
things
I'd
put
in
placement.
They
hear
me
talk
about.
It
was
put
in
a
place
and
design
for
the
african-american
individual
to
stay
in
the
back.
Q
It
was
designed
that
way
and
I
can
tell
you
that
way,
going
to
the
white
towels,
the
black
tall,
sort
of
water
fountains
and
see
a
lot
of
people
didn't
have
to
go
through
that
who
was
not
involved
in
that
situation.
We
all
have
to
go
through
and
go
to
the
back
door
and
pay
the
same
money
to
get
a
frankfurter
I
will
ID
called
hot
dog
here
and
get
a
hotdog
and
be
up
to
go
to
the
back,
doing
good
and
pay
the
same
money
for
it,
but
we
couldn't
go
through
the
front
door.
Q
Go
sit
down
in
a
restaurant.
What
I
did
a
couple
of
times
got
arrested
for
sitting
down
in
a
restaurant?
I
went
through
all
of
that
when
I
was
14
years
old,
so
these
things
I
still
have
in
me
and
still
remember
these,
but
I
don't
want
I,
don't
hold
nobody.
You
know
common
birth
today,
I
said:
okay,
it's
not
your
fault,
your
fault,
but
even
with
the
Planning
Commission
I
always
say.
That
means
a
lot
of
different
organizations
from
the
Masonic
organization.
All
these
organizations,
when
you
are
pointed
office,
that's
what
you
are
appointed.
Q
How
could
you
have
more
power
jurisdiction
of
a
person?
That's
elected
I
never
knew
that
before
until
councilor
louison
and
brother
kun
lot
went
to
Columbia,
and
this
is
no
council.
I
have
all
the
powers
Lodge
your
hand,
you
can
change
the
anything
he
said
now
we
don't
be
Beyonce,
it's
not
gonna,
be
a
fight
and
that's
what
eternal
General
said
it
might
be
a
fight,
but
you
all
have
it
in
your
power.
Q
So
I
have
never
seen
a
better
organization
better,
but
a
person
that's
appointed,
have
more
power
than
a
person
is
elected
best
in
the
churches.
That's
in
any
different
organization.
I,
don't
understand
it.
So
nice
little
bees
going
through
these
things.
I
said
now.
It's
time
for
change.
Charleston
is
changing
and
have
changed
by
adds
up
today
was
not
the
same.
Charleston
I
know
in
the
fifties
or
sixties
or
seventies
eighties,
when
I
graduate
from
high
school
here
Charleston
is
changed.
Q
You
got
new
people
moving
and
got
new
ideas,
and
pretty
soon
you
will
have
a
lot
of
young
people
are
wrong.
Here
happen
ideas
more
than
we
have,
and
it's
gonna
change
more
couldn't
say
what
these
old
people
is
doing
in
there
look
crazy
they're
doing
this
stuff.
These
young
people
not
gonna,
put
up
the
stuff
we're
doing
right
here
today.
They
gonna
change
it
totally
because
we
happen
when
are
theirs.
So
that's
why
I'm
saying
we
have
to
recognize
changes.
Some
people
do
not
more
changes.
Q
This
could
something
been
in
place
for
30
years,
I've
been
back
in
1930s.
This
is
you
know,
2000
now
I
was
2
years
old,
one
time,
but
now
I'm
sick.
You
know
I'm
not
that
anymore.
I
could
run
100
miles
now,
but
now
I
can't
go
to
so
you
know.
So
these
things
have
changed
everything
changes.
So
people
got
to
recognize
that
and
we
have
to
go
on
and
further
Hornig
or
I
heard
one
person
I
got
on
the
telephone
on
my
phone.
Now,
let's
not
message
oh
well,
we
are.
Q
We
should
delay
it
until
a
new
council
members
can
come
in
an
office
because
we
already
got
some
of
the
oil
council
members
out
I
tell
people
that
with
me,
don't
ever
ever
ever,
I,
never
I,
don't
like
a
person
to
when
they
say
things
like
me.
You
threaten
me
I,
take
all
threats
seriously,
so
I
tell
anybody
that
they
know,
but
me
do
ever
threat
me
with
words
or
anything
that
I
take.
It
seriously
and
that's
what
they
are
saying.
So
we
know
they're
coming
together.
All
of
us
offer
here.
Q
I
know
their
company
I
know
they
offer
it,
but
doesn't
matter
it's
up
to
the
people,
but
do
not
threaten
me
because
we
threaten
me
I'm
gonna,
look
at
you,
I'm,
coming
back
almost
at
the
aisle
sit
down
idly
like
people.
Do
that's
not
Robert
Mitchell
I!
Don't
do
that.
So
we
as
a
people
in
the
city
of
Charleston
mere
we
try
to
work
together
and
do
things
in
harmony
and
peace.
Q
We
try
to
work
together
with
everyone
and
have
diversity
here,
but
because
some
people
still
trying
to
hold
on
to
that
line
and
seem
to
me
they're
trying
to
take
me
back
from
whence
I
came
and
I
don't
want
to
go
back
there.
That's
just
the
bottom
line
you
see.
So
that's
all
I
want
to
say,
but
that's
even
to
the
historical
foundation.
I
love,
damn
it
they're
the
Preservation
Society
I
love
them
a
day,
but
it's
time
to
move
on.
Q
T
Mayor
councilmember,
Gregory
and
I'll
only
be
a
couple
of
seconds,
because
I
think
it's
pretty
simple
I
mean
for
a
long
period
of
time.
This
city
was
a
majority
african-american
city,
as
most
of
us
know,
for
a
long
period
of
time,
even
during
during
slavery
with
a
majority
minority
city,
many
of
the
laws
that
are
on
our
books,
okay,
are
there
to
protect
white
privilege
and
by
that
I
mean
okay.
T
Just
look
at
the
makeup
of
this
caucus
Council
and
just
look
at
them
at
the
background
of
all
of
us,
including
the
african-americans
on
this
council
I,
agree
that
it's
time
for
us
to
get
rid
of
all
those
old
Jim
Crow
laws,
not
just
this
one,
because
there
are
many
more
on
the
books.
So
to
me,
it's
real
I'm
gonna
support
this,
because
to
me
it's
very
significant
that
when
we
sign
okay.
T
T
To
apologize
for
being
slaves,
people,
okay,
I,
just
think
that
this
is
just
another
step
for
us
to
try
to
make
things
real
and
I
think
that
this
is
not
the
only
ordinance.
We
need
to
look
at
forward
there
and
we
will
over
time
if
I
can
stay
here,
another
six
years,
we'll
really
get
our
word
and
we
will
mirror
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
it
was
just
it's
just
there
to
protect,
delete
white
privilege,
but
we
all
equip
now
we're
ready.
Even
though
we
were
put
up
things
as
well.
B
But
anyone
else
like
to
be
heard
so
times
they
are
a-changin
and
some
of
those
changes
are
good,
and
this
is
a
time
for
some
change.
I
would
like
to
echo,
however,
councilmember
Jackson's
comment,
perhaps
between
first
and
second
reading,
even
though
I
guess
in
a
way
there's
a
sense
with
the
letter
from
the
Attorney
General
that
there's
no
need
to
compromise
and
we
had
tried
to
compromise
before,
but
let's
sit
down
and
listen
to
them
to
the
discussion
again
from
both
sides.