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City of Charleston City Council Meeting 10/27/2020
C
C
D
E
G
You'll
just
join
me
for
a
moment
in
prayer.
Thank
you
very
much,
heavenly
father
help
make
each
of
us
an
instrument
of
your
grace,
leave
us
into
a
community
showing
forth
your
wisdom
and
your
tenderness
bless
all
and
our
differences
and
support
our
courage,
particularly
in
these
days
to
stand
together.
G
A
A
A
First,
I'd
like
to
share
a
proclamation
to
a
wonderful
organization,
lowcountry
local
first
and
its
founder,
jamie
haley,
and
this
year
in
particular,
rather
than
a
buy
local
month,
y'all
we're
going
to
have
a
buy
local
season,
because
the
importance
of
supporting
our
local
businesses
this
year
as
they've
been
challenged
by
covet.
19
is
just
it's
more
than
a
nice
thing
to
do
it's
an
essential
thing
for
us
all
to
do
so.
A
Choosing
locals,
creates
diverse
job
opportunities,
protecting
us
from
the
effects
of
economic
downturns
and
whereas
by
buying
local
charleston's
residents,
help
to
improve
and
protect
the
environment.
The
purchasing
habits,
central
location,
smaller
footprint
of
local
businesses,
often
results
in
less
pollution
and
congestion
by
buying
local
charleston's
residents,
keep
money
in
circulation
in
the
local
economy
for
every
hundred
dollars
spent
at
a
local,
independent
business.
A
She
has
led
the
organization
through
tremendous
growth
during
her
tenure,
creating
a
movement
around
buying
local,
changing
consumer
purchasing
practices
and
providing
public
education
on
the
economic
benefits
of
supporting
community
businesses,
whereas
haley
and
country
local
first
team
have
helped
strengthen
small
businesses,
increase
the
number
of
farmers
in
the
region
and
prioritize
minority-owned
businesses
and
founding
director.
Jamie
haley
has
announced,
sadly,
her
departure
from
the
non-profit
organization
on
december
31st
by
acknowledging
november
1st
through
december
31st
as
by
local
season.
A
The
city
of
charleston
supports
our
local
businesses
that
create
jobs,
boost
our
local
economy
and
preserve
our
neighborhoods.
I
urge
all
citizens
to
join
in
this
celebration
and
to
buy
local
for
the
holidays
and
throughout
the
year,
for
that
matter.
Now.
Therefore,
I
john
j
techenberg
mayor
of
the
city
of
charleston,
along
with
city
council,
do
hereby
proclaim
november
1st
through
december
31st,
as
buy
local
season
and
december
31st
2020.
As
jamie
haley
day
in
the
city
of
charleston.
I
A
Well,
you're
welcome
and
you've
done
a
terrific
job.
You
really
have
created
a
movement
and-
and
this
year,
particularly
supporting
small
businesses,
get
the
resources
they
need
and
steering
people
to
loans
and
help
that
they
can
get
a
lowcountry.
Local
first
has
just
been
amazing,
and
I
know
you
have
a
bright
future
still
ahead
of
you
in
whatever
endeavors
you
pursue,
but
you've
done
a
terrific
job.
So
congratulations
and
thank
you
from
all
of
council
and
charleston.
H
J
Thank
you
so
much
I
I
know
that
we
don't
usually
entertain
comments
after
a
proclamation
that
just
does
bring
joy
to
everybody,
but
I
am
knowing
the
most
recent
cause.
I
think
that
local
look
look
country.
Local
first
has
taken
up
in
in
support
of
the
market
being
open
for
all
the
vendors
at
marion
square.
I
was
hoping-
maybe
you
could
just
give
a
little
a
rundown
about
that
mayor,
because
it
is
really
good
news.
So
can
you
just
tell
us
when
the
market's
going
to
open
to
all
the
vendors.
C
I
Yeah,
when
we
we
just
recently
did
those
small
business
grants
through
some
funding
that
we
received
from
home
telecom
and
south
state,
and
there
were
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
vendors
from
the
from
the
farmer's
market
who
are
applying
for
those.
You
know,
one
thousand
and
two
thousand
dollar
grants,
and-
and
we've
been
flooded
with
with
thank
you
notes
and
emails
from
those
folks
who
appreciate
that
support.
So
I'm
very
happy
to
see
that
that's
open
back
up
again,
that
will
that
will
significantly
impact
them.
A
A
The
first
one
is
just
regarding
the
proposed
2021
budget
city
budget.
Now
I
do
want
to
share
with
anybody
in
the
public
who
is
signed
up
to
speak
on
our
budget
tonight.
Let
you
know
that
council
is
not
taking
any
action
tonight
on
the
budget.
We
we
have
a
loosely
proposed
budget,
but
there's
more
work
to
be
done
on
it,
but
we
certainly
have
this
opportunity
tonight
for
anybody
to
make
comments
about
our
priorities
for
for
next
year's
budget.
No
action,
however,
will
be
taken
by
council
tonight
on
budget
matters.
B
B
K
K
Excuse
me
that
would
mean
reallocating
a
minimum
of
five
million
dollars
into
life-affirming
services.
Why
is
it
to
me
that
this
is
important?
I
set
a
minimum
simply
because
5
million
is
the
bare
lease
that
we
can
use
in
to
go
back
into
life-affirming
activities
and
services
for
our
community
members.
K
This
amount
of
money
also
does
not
go
into
living
wages
for
employees,
and
this
year
we
have
been
hit
with
a
pandemic
whose
consequences
have
no
time
caps.
People
have
been
hospitalized,
people
have
lost
their
jobs,
people
have
been
put
into
the
streets,
and
people
have
lost
their
lives,
but
covet
isn't
the
only
killer.
If
we
add
on
the
massive
racial
disparities
of
income
and
arrest
and
also
add
on
our
well-known
system
of
racist
policies
and
economic
exploitation,
we
get
to
a
larger
looming,
more
evident
evidential
killer.
K
So
why
do
we
the
most
overburdened
and
unrepresented
people
have
to
struggle
to
survive
while
the
cpd
receives
53
million
of
the
budget
to
further
harass
us?
For
these
reasons
and
more,
I
urge
you
to
prioritize
us,
your
constituents,
your
community
members,
our
families
and
the
2021
budget,
and
I
thank
you
for
your
time
and
passes
to
the
next
person.
L
Good
evening
mayor
mr
mayor
members
of
council,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
just
to
quickly
talk
about
the
budget.
We
look
forward
to
getting
the
initial
draft,
but,
as
we
try
to
do
every
year,
really
just
want
to
urge
you
to
consider
adding
funding
for
the
planning
department
and
specifically
for
enforcement
staffing.
L
We
have
incredible
development
pressures
on
this
community,
like
we've
never
seen
before,
and
it
seems
like
the
department
is
almost
has
fewer
resources
and
staff
than
it
did
a
decade
ago
when
things
were
much
slower.
So
we
just
feel
that
this
is
stressing
the
process
and
really
hurting
the
outcomes
on
the
projects
that
are
working
through.
So,
given
the
tremendous
pressures
we
have
to
grow
and
develop,
we
think
it's
imperative
that
the
planning
department
be
reinforced
with
additional
staff,
and
we
would
appreciate
your
consideration
on
this.
Thank
you.
B
A
M
A
H
A
Of
course,
all
of
our
meetings
by
the
way
are
on
posted
online,
but
I
find
the
easiest
place
to
keep
track
of
them
all
is
every
monday
morning
in
the
newspaper
they
list
all
the
public
meetings
regionally
and
of
course,
ours
are
included.
That's
a
good
spot
to
pick
up
when
these
meetings
occur.
All
right,
so
number
two
is
a
zoning
matter
and
I
think
mr
morgan
is
going
to
present
and
then
we'll
take
public
comments.
A
O
G
O
Are
you
all
seeing
the
rezoning
e2
on
here,
yep?
Okay,
great
all
right?
This
is
102
president
street.
It's
at
the
corner
of
president
and
canon
it's
a
little
bit
over
a
half
acre
of
property.
It's
a
request
to
rezone
from
the
old
city,
height
district
height
level,
of
four
four
stories
to
the
old
city,
height
district,
five
level
of
five
stories,
and
the
property
is
here
at
the
corner
of
canon
and
president.
I
hope
you
can
see
my
cursor
there
it's
across
the
street
from
a
musc
parking
deck.
O
O
Let's
go
to
the
next
images
in
this
show
here,
so
this
is
in
our
century
five
plan,
it's
in
our
urban
zone,
so
this
would
be
an
appropriate
height
in
that
urban
zone.
This
is
an
aerial
view
of
the
property
and
it's
a
currently
a
parking
lot.
At
present
on
this
corner,
here
is
an
image
of
the
property.
You
can
see
it
right
here.
Surface
parking
lot
here
are
the
condominiums
that
are
to
the
east
of
it.
This
is
the
five-story
parking
deck
that
is
to
the
west
of
it.
O
This
is
another
aerial
image
of
the
property.
Again,
you
can
see
the
condominiums
very
clearly
to
the
east
of
it
and
here's
a
ground
view
of
the
corner
property,
another
ground
view
of
the
corner
property
and
the
view
of
the
property
looking
from
cannon
street
with
the
parking
deck
in
the
background
and
the
parking
deck
that
is
across
the
street,
and
these
are
the
apartment,
the
condominiums
that
are
adjacent
to
it
and
just
a
street
view
across
the
street
as
well,
and
it
was
at
planning
commission.
P
A
R
H
P
Council
remember
shade
what
what
this?
What
allow
is
right
now,
it's
the
four-story
district,
we're
next
to,
as
mr
morgan
pointed
out,
a
building,
that's
four
and
five
stories,
and
then
the
parking
garage,
that's
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
even
though
it's
in
a
five-story
district,
it's
actually
a
six
and
a
half
story
garage
that
has
a
helicopter
pad
on
the
top
of
it.
A
P
Mayor
the
the
plan
for
the
property
that
that
gary
goff
and
hank,
d'antonio
and
and
carol
with
their
team
are
working
on
includes
basically
a
wrap
of
commercial
uses.
That'll
be
parking
behind
that
so
from
the
street,
there'll
likely
be
retail
restaurant
type
uses
that
would
be
visible
to
anchor
that
corner
and
do
something
to
better
engage.
P
P
There's
one
missing
parking
garage,
that's
been
approved,
but
not
yet
built
where
the
I
guess
it
was
the
scn
office
tower
that
used
to
be
there
many
many
years
ago,
and
then,
when
you
pass
that
you
get
to
this
site
and
then
this
would
this
would
enable
there
to
be
some
of
those
uses.
That
would
be
more
than
just
the
housing.
That's
above
great.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
council
all
in
favor.
Please
say
I
I
I
the
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
so,
with
the
pleasure
of
counsel,
I
would
suggest
we
take
number
three
and
four
together
they're
both
related
to
laurel
island.
One
is
the
height
and
the
other
is
the
pud,
but
I
would
think
it
would
be
efficient
to
let
the
public
comment
on
either
one.
If
that's,
okay,
with
y'all.
O
Sir
will
do
okay,
so
so
number
e3
is
a
change
for
height
districts
in
the
laurel
island
area,
and
it
involves
all
the
parcels
that
are
part
of
the
pud.
It
involves
removing
parcels
that
were
currently
in
the
old
city,
height
district
from
that
zoning
district
and
having
their
height
regulated
via
the
pud,
and
on
this
screen
in
front
of
you,
you
see
the
parcels
that
are
involved.
The
tms
numbers
are
on
your
agendas
here,
it's
approximately
191.6
acres,
just
to
show
you
a
couple
of
other
images.
O
At
present,
this
area
is
well
on
the
previous
slide.
We
have
the
height
districts
on
here.
It's
the
w
height
district
as
part
of
the
old
city,
height
district
and
then
some
other
four
to
12
story,
height
districts
at
present
and
again
those
would
all
be
removed
and
the
heights
would
be
regulated
via
the
put.
Then
the
next
slide
is
e4,
and
this
is
the
pud,
and
this
is
another
public
hearing
opportunity
for
the
pud.
O
It's
taking
these
properties
from
general
business
from
heavy
industrial
upper
peninsula,
zoning
dr3
to
a
planned
unit
development,
and
I'm
just
going
to
do
a
couple
of
quick
slides
that
just
orient
everybody
to
the
site.
Of
course,
this
is
in
our
century
five
plan
as
industrial
and
urban
core
recommendations
so
that
that
that
fits
appropriately.
O
This
is
ariel
of
the
outline
of
the
properties
that
are
part
of
the
pud.
Here
we
have
the
height
districts
that
are
at
present
that
are
being
taken
off
the
property
as
part
of
the
height
district
change,
and
then
these
are
some
images
from
the
pud
that
show
what
would
go
in
its
place.
These
are
the
height
districts
that
would
be
part
of
the
pud,
the
different
districts,
ranging
from
twelve
story,
eight
story,
two
and
a
half
and
three
and
a
half
story
and
a
two-story
area.
O
The
putt
also
has,
as
previously
stated,
extensive
open
space
that
is
shown
in
green
in
this
image
here
and
then
we
have
the
overall
pud
layout
and
you
do
see
the
extensive
green
space
as
well
as
where
the
buildings
and
the
blocks
would
be.
And,
of
course,
there
are
buildings
and
blocks
on
the
western
side
of
morrison
drive
in
this
area
that
are
also
part
of
the
put.
A
A
S
S
Flores
island
laurel
allen
will
be
a
huge
asset
for
our
community
for
the
next
generations
to
come,
and
I'll
quickly
cite
three
reasons.
First,
is
the
public
access
along
the
beautiful
water's
edge?
There
are
few
if
any,
opportunities
like
this
in
our
country,
this
asset
will
be
a
benefit
to
the
citizens
of
varus
at
laurel,
island,
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
in
many
ways
our
entire
community.
S
Second,
the
extraordinary
amount
of
affordable
housing,
10
and
in
perpetuity
will
be
a
world
in
a
world-class
location,
would
be
of
unprecedented
value
to
this
community
three
in
a
robustly
growing
part
of
our
country.
This
development
is
not
on
the
outskirts,
but
is
centrally
located
within
an
existing
community
connecting
with
and
enhancing
the
already
existing
neighborhoods.
S
C
U
I'm
on
the
line-
and
I'm
very
sorry
I
have
to
follow
former
mayor
riley-
that's
a
tough
assignment
good
evening,
council
members
and
mr
mayor
in
the
spirit
of
full
disclosure.
In
addition
to
being
a
resident.
I
am
chairman
of
the
preservation
society
board
and
I'm
here
to
comment
on
laurel
island.
While
the
pud
has
come
a
long
way,
there
are
still
major
inadequacies
in
both
the
product
and
the
process.
U
C
U
We
also
discovered
that
the
pud
was
not
in
conformance
with
the
old
city
height
district.
This
will
shortly
be
resolved,
but
the
fact
that
neither
mr
clement's
team
nor
the
city
caught
this
speaks
to
a
review
process
that
has
been
patchy
and
rushed
hd.
Hasty
decisions
are
generally
not
good
ones,
but
this
pud
seems
to
have
been
expedited
at
every
turn,
especially
alarming.
In
a
time
when
the
public's
ability
to
engage
meaningfully
has
been
greatly
reduced
for
public
health
reasons.
U
U
We
need
to
know
specifics
of
the
plan
not
to
be
put
off
by
good
intentions
and
vague
statements,
and
that
brings
me
to
the
process
in
our
letter
to
the
city
and
to
all
of
you
earlier,
this
fall.
The
preservation
society
has
stated
its
concerns
about
the
compromised
public
process,
particularly
at
the
july
15
planning
commission
meeting
on
a
project
with
so
many
ramifications.
The
city
must
find
ways
to
inform
and
engage
people
more
substantially.
U
V
Here,
yes,
hello,
I
would
I'm
just
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
friends
of
the
lowcountry
lowline.
We
again
support
the
laurel
island
pud
and
their
inclusion
of
the
minimum
of
39.2
acres
of
green
space
with
connections
to
the
future
low
line.
The
friends
of
the
lowcountry
low
line
agree
that,
with
their
vision
of
a
network
of
green
spaces
and
parks
that
will
be
integral
to
the
overall
plan,
we
support
their
plan
to
emphasize
connections
to
public
transportation
and
their
incorporation
of
bike
and
pedestrian
routes.
V
W
Good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
members
of
council,
thank
you
to
you
all
for
holding
this
additional
public
hearing.
This
is
kashan
drollay
with
historic,
charleston
foundation,
with
a
goal
of
ensuring
that
laurel
island
becomes
a
model
for
infill
development,
enhances
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
contributes
to
charleston's
overall
sense
of
place.
The
stewart
charleston
foundation
has
been
actively
engaged
in
the
development
of
the
laurel
islands
hud.
W
Many
of
the
key
improvements
to
the
initial
proposal
were
made
by
hcf,
such
as
articulated
guiding
principles
for
the
entire
development
establishment
of
fixed
bones,
terminating
the
water
clearly
identified
locations
for
public
recreation
and
access
to
the
water
and
a
commitment
to
building
height
districts.
The
pet
proposal
currently
before
city
council
is
markedly
improved,
incorporated
incorporating
changes
recommended
by
the
planning
commission
and,
most
recently
by
council
and
citizens
of
the
council
workshop.
W
C
X
Okay
hi:
this
is
sam.
Honduras.
I
serve
as
president
and
ceo
of
south
carolina
bio,
which
is
the
state's
life
science,
economic
development
organization,
with
a
overarching
mission
to
build
advance,
innovate
grow
the
industry,
it's
comprised
of
pharmaceutical
biotech
medical
device,
research,
testing,
labs,
digital
health
and
beyond
fastest
growing
segment
of
industry
in
south
carolina
now,
outpacing,
aerospace
and
automotive,
about
double
the
average
wages
in
the
state
and
the
industry
spends
triple
the
research
and
development
dollars
of
all
other
industries,
including
aerospace
and
automotive.
X
Most
importantly,
huge
diversification
for
our
economy,
especially
as
we're
seeing
in
the
middle
of
covid,
where
the
industry
is
front
and
center
as
a
solution
provider.
Currently
a
12
billion
dollar
impact
on
the
economy
in
south
carolina
each
year
and
very
recession
resistant
based
on
it's
being
intertwined
with
healthcare.
A
Y
Thank
you,
I
think
I'm
unmuted
now,
yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
mr
mayor
member
of
council,
I'm
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
daniel
island,
ferry
and
charleston
water
taxi
to
put
our
support
behind
laurel
island.
Their
commitment
to
the
open
space
along
the
water
and
public
access
to
the
water
is
exactly
what
we
need.
Y
As
you
know,
we're
trying
to
expand
our
service
and
grow
our
fleet,
and
the
key
to
that
is,
is
public
access
to
docs
and
in
the
waterways,
so
we're
committed
to
provide
that
and
expand
our
service
and
discussions
with
them
indicate
they're
committed
to
to
making
that
available.
So
one
thing
we've
we've
struggled
with
is
moving
our
way.
Y
Inland
and
kind
of
moving
up
up
the
rivers,
and
this
will
will
get
us
a
little
farther
up,
so
we're
excited
about
it.
Hopefully
we'll
get
approval
and
there's
our
hopefully
future
water,
taxi
and
daniel
island
ferry
dock
right
there.
So
we
just
wanted
to
to
put
our
voice
of
support
behind
this
plan
and
appreciate
your
time.
Thank
you.
P
Z
Z
I've
seen
that
the
laurel
island
development
is
going
to
provide
recreational
and
sports
facilities
that
will
not
only
be
an
asset
to
the
residents
but
to
the
city.
In
the
whole,
these
venues
will
open
up
the
opportunity
for
many
more
sports
leagues
in
charleston
various
sports,
including
beach,
volleyball
soccer
baseball,
softball,
just
to
name
a
few,
and
it
will
range
from
youth
development,
leagues
to
adult
recreational
leagues
as
well.
Z
AA
We've
been
lucky
enough
to
be
a
part
of
redevelopments
similar
to
this
and
and
have
been
able
to
see
you
know
what
this
long
process
can
can
create
at
the
end.
You
know
it's
not
every
day
that
you
have
the
opportunity
to.
You
know
to
repurpose
a
landfill
and
turn
it
to
a
strong
asset
for
our
our
own
community
in
our
own
backyard.
AA
AA
I
think
it
would
really
create
something
good
that
with
that
can
withstand
the
test
of
time,
for
you
know
not
only
my
lifetime,
but
for
for
generations
to
come
and
withstand
any
any
challenges.
Charleston
likes
to
throw
at
it
whether
that's
seismic
activity,
hurricane
activity
or
sea
level
rise.
So
for
those
reasons
I
wanted
to
call
in
support
of
the
project,
and
I
look
forward
to
hearing
from
everyone
else
this
evening.
A
AB
Hey
so
my
name
is
joseph
wade:
I'm
a
lifetime
resident
of
charleston
south
carolina,
my
mom
graduated
from
bishop
england,
my
dad
graduated
from
middleton.
I
went
to
bishop
england
and
then
finished
at
the
citadel,
I'm
a
co-owner
of
f45
training
in
mount
pleasant,
downtown
in
west
ashley,
and
also
opening
a
healthy
smoothie
bar
in
the
downtown
charleston
peninsula.
AB
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
completely
in
support
of
the
laura
island
project.
I
really
think
that
the
open
green
spaces
is
going
to
be
beneficial
for
the
overall
health
and
wellness
of
the
charleston
community,
and
the
two-mile
use
path
creates
a
great
opportunity
for
general
public
recreation,
including
exercise.
AC
Okay,
I
have
enjoyed
living
on
the
chocolate
peninsula
for
many
years,
and
living
on
the
peninsula
gives
me
a
first
person
view
of
all
the
challenges
that
charleston
faces
on
a
daily
basis:
flooding
traffic
costs
of
living,
those
kind
of
things
in
charleston.
We
hear
about
these
issues
on
a
daily
basis,
and
the
easy
thing
to
do
is
blame
developers
for
all
the
problems
that
complain
too
many
people
are
moving
here.
AC
AD
AC
It
is
affordable
housing
to
ensure
our
essential
workers,
don't
have
to
make
the
choice
between
driving
45
minutes
to
work
or
spending
an
irresponsible
amount
of
their
income
on
housing.
It
has
waterfront
green
space
and
pedestrian
paths
to
give
general
population
opportunities
to
enjoy
charleston's
grace
resource
without
having
to
go
for
a
boat
or
something
like
that.
It
has
office
space,
retail
entertainment.
The
list
goes
on
and
on,
and
it's
all
contained
within
a
guacamole
walkable
community
focused
on
the
pedestrian.
AC
This
project
checks
every
box
for
what
charleston
should
be
doing
right
now.
If
there
was
ever
a
project
to
support.
I
support
turning
an
urban
landfill
into
a
live
work
play
type
island
and
my
last
point
is
regarding
the
pud
pud
document
itself.
I
know
there's
some
concern
regarding
the
flexibility
that
provides
the.
AA
AC
And
that
is
understandable.
However,
this
is
necessary
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
project
can
adjust
the
needs
of
charleston
going
into
the
future.
The
current
plan
addresses
these
issues
is
facing
today,
but
there's
no
way
to
detail
out
a
project
that
will
address
the
issues
charleston
will
face
in
15
years.
This
is
exactly
the
same
way.
Daniel
island
and
magnolia's
peds
were
structured
and
laurel
island
should
be
no
different.
C
AE
C
Details
of
the
pud
align
with
the
comprehensive
plan
that
the
corps
of
engineers
plan
for
the
city
wall
and
the
developers
plan
are
aligned
to
ensure
that
we
do
not
end
up
with
a
flooding
disaster
that
the
developer
has
completed
a
detailed
drainage
and
flood
mitigation
plan
to
offset
a
significant
amount
of
current
permeable
acreage
and
drainage.
The
project
will
eliminate
that
the
city
has
a
plan
for
using
the
tif
funds
that
ensures
the
taxpayers.
C
Money
is
used
for
something
citizens
need
specifically
more
affordable
housing
as
down
below
by
the
recent
state
legislation
that
the
developer
has
completed
a
realistic
traffic
impact
assessment
and
mitigation
plan
to
address
the
adverse
impacts
of
traffic
entering
leaving
and
causing
the
potential
that
the
developer
has
completed.
A
detailed
land
use
plan
that
ensures
the
green
space
proposed
will
continue,
as
it
is
proposed
now,
as
mr
waring
discussed
last
meeting,
and
that
the
developer's
proposal
no
longer
includes
only
its
own
architectural
review
process.
I
think
it's
essential
that
citizens
input.
A
L
L
I
just
want
to
say
obviously
that
the
turnout
of
support
tonight
for
laurel
island
is
impressive
and
you
know
certainly
focused
on
some
positive
aspects
of
the
project
and
to
be
clear.
You
know
we
see
many
of
these
benefits
as
well,
but
you
know
we.
We
know
that
these
type
of
projects
evolve
over
time
and
that's
why
the
details
and
the
rules
and
the
process
matter
and
that's
what
we
focus
on
and
we
have
real
concerns.
You
know
the
one
gentleman
said
that
this
is
like
the
daniel
island
pudding
that
it
should
be.
L
I
totally
agree,
but,
as
you
know,
this
is
not
at
all.
Like
the
daniel
island,
pud
we've
again
submitted
a
letter
to
the
mayor
and
council
outlining
our
concerns
with
the
pud
and
the
process
by
which
the
pud
was
approved.
You
know
we
maintain
that
the
public
engagement
has
been
insufficient.
The
city's
approval
process
has
prevented
participation.
L
We've
continued
to
get
emails,
as
recently
as
yesterday
from
residents
unable
to
submit
comments
due
to
technical
errors,
and
this
is
an
ongoing
concern.
You
know
we
know
this
is
an
incredibly
difficult
time
and
you'll
have
an
incredibly
difficult
task
in
trying
to
to
ensure
that
public
engagement
happens
and
we
applaud
the
efforts,
but
we
urge
you
to
do
better
and
to
this
end
I
want
to
call
attention
to
the
letter
that
we
shared
with
you
on
september,
15th,
outlining
how
the
handling
of
the
planning
commission
meeting
hindered
the
public
participation
in
that
letter.
L
As
you
will
recall,
we
urge
you
to
send
this
back
to
the
planning
commission
to
allow
the
public
to
participate
in
the
hearing,
as
provided
by
law.
Our
letters
and
our
concerns
have
gone
unacknowledged
and
unaddressed,
and
we
urge
you
to
correct
this
before
you
approve
this
application
to
be
clear.
We
fully
support
the
development
of
this
site,
but
not
a
plan
short
on
details
and
absent
public
engagement.
L
As
you
know,
we've
shared
our
concerns
and
I
don't
want
to
rehash
those,
but
you
know
we
saw
that
there
was
a
lot
of
issues
with
the
legality
of
this
and
having
to
go
back
and
redo
the
heights,
because
it
was
not
legal,
it
doesn't
make
us
feel
better
being
right,
but
it
because
we
know
that
it
ultimately
erodes
the
public's
confidence
in
the
process
and
we're
concerned
by
this.
You
have
our
letter.
The
one
thing
I'll
urge
you
again
is
to
prove.
L
L
We
ask
you
to
do
better
and
we're
increasingly
concerned
by
the
city's
approach
to
managing
development
from
epic
center
to
cane
hoy,
to
k,
to
longborough
you're
being
asked
to
see
massive
entitlements
on
hopes,
and
we
want
the
city
to
be
responsible
and
require
the
development
of
trying
to
present
a
clear
vision
and
plan
and
ensure
that
the
pud
has
the
teeth
to
enforce
that
plan.
We
urge
you
to
not
accept
this
and
to
stand
up
and
demand
better.
Thank
you.
A
B
B
AE
A
A
C
N
B
Received
also
as
well
yeah,
and
this
is
for
items
e3
and
e4
hello,
11
people
asked
to
vote,
ask
council
to
vote
against
moving
forward
with
the
laurel
island
development.
They
said
that
there
needed
to
be
more
robust
conversation
among
citizens
who
have
concerns
and
that
decisions
could
not
be
made
during
a
pandemic
and
a
flood
plan
needed
to
be
approved.
B
Q
Q
The
community
are
the
neighborhoods,
that's
closer
in
proximity
to
that
particular
area,
because
it's
going
to
affect
them
in
some
type
of
way,
with
probably
traffic
or
whatever
the
case
may
be,
and
all
this
was
done
since
day.
One
and
I
was
working
with
these
developments
since
day
one
and
they
keep
me
abreast
of
all
that's
going
on
this
is
this-
is
the
area
that
I
represent.
So
that's
why
I
stay
abreast
of
everything.
Q
That's
happening
with
laurel
island,
even
when
laurel
allen
was
years
ago
when
it
was
becoming
when
the
gun
company
had
owned
it
and
they
wanted
to
do
gulf
coasters
and
things
like
that
and
and
after
the
economy
went
sour
that
went
away
so
now
this
particular
island.
They
have
done
a
whole
lot
of
work
on
it
with
the
part
with
the
part
that
we
have.
They
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
affordable
housing.
Q
That's
going
to
be
there
and
it's
going
to
be
there
and
helping
with
the
10-year
actually
on
some
with
perpetuity
on
others
that
we
want
to
have
so
I'm
going
to
support
it,
and
I
think
the
developer
developers
going
to
work
along
with
the
city
as
we
doing
with
chip
have
done
a
lot
of
different
changes
in
the
part
that
we
have
asked
him
to
do
and
submit
in
the
pod.
So
I
think
this
we're
going
to
be
a
good,
a
good
product.
That's
going
to
happen!
Q
It's
just
that
some
people
looking
at
what
they
cannot
see
right
now,
but
this
is
going
to
be
something
advantageous
to
the
city
and
it's
going
to
be
a
play.
A
big
part
to
the
city,
I
believe-
and
I
I'm
going
to
support
it
wholeheartedly,
and
I
just
hope
my
colleagues
would
go
with
with
me
and
supporting
this
project.
This
project
is
going
to
be
a
long
journal
procedure.
Q
I
don't
think
a
lot
of
us
going
to
be
around
before
it's
completed.
I
don't
think
I'm
going
to
be
around
anyway,
but
when
it's
completed,
but
the
community
had
a
whole
lot
of
time
to
get
involved.
In
this,
the
questions
was
asked.
We
tried
to
answer
all
the
questions
even
from
the
city
standpoint,
asking
answering
all
the
questions
that
they
had
and
the
problem
that
they
see
with
the
pod.
Q
So
we
were
doing
all
of
this
all
the
time
since
september,
when
this
thing
came
up
forth
even
before
so
I'm
going
to
support
the
the
I'm
going
to
support
the
development
of
the
part
on
laura's
island.
So
I'm
just
asking
my
colleagues
to
go.
They
have
questions.
They
can
ask
questions
but
anytime
anything
come
in
the
district
that
I
represent.
Q
Q
J
J
So
I
and
I
I
I
actually
requested
that
we
have
that
kind
of.
I
called
it
the
match
between
the
actual
the
plan
that
the
developer
was
proposing
and
intends
to
to
the
best
of
their
ability,
bring
forward
onto
laurel
island
compared
to
the
ordinance
the
pud
document.
That
becomes
the
ordinance
that
dictates
the
future
land
use
for
for
the
196
acres.
So
I
do
think
that
it
might
be.
I
know
it's
going
to
take
a
little
more
time,
but
the,
but
mr
mcqueen's
memo
was
very
helpful.
J
I
think
to
help
us
appreciate
that
the
pud
document
is
now
in
the
shape
that
we
would
want
it
to
be
to
pass
on
to
the
future
leaders
as
as
councilmember
mitchell
said.
You
know
a
lot
of
us
won't
be
here,
but
we
definitely
need
to
know
that
we've
been
good
stewards
of
the
intention
and
the
dedication
of
what
we
expect
will
be
built
on
laurel
island
as
the
years
go
on.
So
I
would
like
I.
J
I
personally
have
three
areas
that
I
drilled
down
on
the
most
in
in
comparing
mr
mcqueen's
memo
that
highlighted
to
us
the
changes
that
were
made
in
the
in
the
pud
document,
and
I
do
think
in
listening
to
the
comments-
and
you
know
talking
to
people
offline,
that
I
might
be
in
the
same
lane
with
the
people
who
are
following
along
most
closely
in
terms
of
knowing
the
ingredients
for
this.
This
development,
as
a
as
it
proceeds
over
the
next
20
30
years,
really
come
down
to
the
affordable
housing,
the
workforce
housing
that's
being
proposed.
J
There's
a
conversion
table
and
it
all
is
dedicated
to
basically
a
traffic
analysis
at
the
time
that
those
mix
of
uses
would
want
to
be
converted
from
retail
to
residential
or
hotel
to
residential,
and
I
do
think
we
need
to
be
clear
among
ourselves
what
we're
agreeing
to
in
perpetuity
unless
there's
a
putt
amendment
that
would
come
before
a
future
council.
So
that's
another
area,
I
think
that's
it's
very
hard
to
you
know
put
on
paper,
so
I'm
not
complaining
about
the
quality
of
the
work.
J
It's
just
a
very
complex
set
of
you
know
details
that
we're
trying
to
nail
down
and
in
a
similar
fashion.
I
think
the
open
space
is
also
something
that
deserves
a
little
more
explanation
by
mr
mcqueeny
and
anyone
on
the
developer
team
that
wants
to
talk
about
that.
It
too
has
a
minimum
that
will
be
dedicated
and
cannot
be
changed
without
council
approval,
which
I
think
is
great
but
the,
but
the
way
that
it's
coming
on
the
chart,
I
think,
is
a
little
complex
for
you
know
future
owners
of
the
property.
J
If
somebody
decides
to
come
in
and
and
and
one
thing
that
I
I
can't
see,
but
maybe
it's
there
and
I'm
just
not
reading
it
correctly.
Unlike
the
housing
that
says,
we've
got
to
retain
the
housing
that's
being
proffered
to
be
affordable
and
by
let's
say,
2100
units
worth
of
houses
are
built.
Then
you
have
to
see
the
full
full
20
of
affordable
units.
There's
no
requirement
that
I
can
see
in
the
open
space.
J
So
I'd
like
to
know
what
we
can
hold
future
developers
speak
to
the
fire
about
bringing
that
open
space
into
being
in
a
timeline
that
we
can
all
be
happy
about.
So
those
are
the
three
areas
that
I
really
you
know
think
that
the
public
has
been
mentioning
to
us
and
I
think
it
would
take
you
know
it
would
would
benefit
all
of
us
to
have
mr
mcqueeny
and
the
developers
maybe
speak
to
those
details.
J
A
AG
J
AG
On
the
on
the
issue
of
open
space,
there's
a
minimum
requirement
of,
I
believe,
39.2
acres
of
what's
called
usable,
open
space,
which
is
high
ground
open
space
that
is,
has
active
recreational
uses
under
our
zoning
ordinance
for
a
pud.
You
can't
move
open
space
areas
shown
on
the
open
space
plan
without
a
putt
amendment,
so
you
would
have
to
do
that
in
order
to
move
those
open
spaces
as
they're
shown
and
you'll
see,
most
of
them
just
encircle
the
the
development
itself.
J
In
surf,
mr
mcqueen,
because
I'm
looking
at
the
section
of
5.2
in
the
actual
pud
document-
and
I
think
the
minimum
of
39
acres-
is
the
total
of
open
space,
not
not
usable,
open
space,
which
is
a
distinction
that
I
think
we
should
all
understand
and
the
way
that
I
read.
The
document
of
that
39
acres
9.8
has
to
be
usable,
open
space
that
the
developer
can
bring
forward
and
stay
within
the
boundaries
of
the
current
document
is
that.
AH
J
So
the
way
I
tried
to
understand
that
was
that
of
that
39.2,
which
is
the
total
that
we
can
require
of
a
developer,
even
though
they're
expecting
and
it
uses
that
word
expected.
Open
space
is
going
to
be
70
acres
and
39.
Expected
acres
of
usable,
open
space,
but
expected
is
not
what
we
can
hold
a
future
owner.
J
You
know
to,
and
so,
along
with
those
minimums
and
how
you
get
to
that
area
of
numbers
that
make
up
the
minimum
that
we
can,
you
know
require
of
an
owner.
Then
I
would
like
to
know
if
the
owner
has
any
answers
to.
Is
there
going
to
be
a
timeline
required
of
bringing
forward
that
minimum
of
39
acres.
P
Thank
you,
mayor,
council,
remember
jackson,
the
the
language
that
you
see
that's
in
italics
is.
Is
there
and
there's
a
note
that
mr
mcqueen
was
pointing
out
right
at
the
bottom?
That
said,
references
to
minimum
zoning
ordinance
requirements
above
or
for
information?
Only
those
italicized
provisions
are
there,
because
the
city's
hud
ordinance
sets
forth
certain
minimums
that
have
to
be
met
and
those
minimums,
according
to
the
city's
ordinance,
have
to
be
provided
in
the
pud.
P
So
that
council
knows
what
the
minimum
the
ordinance
requires
is
now
laurel
island
is
going
to
have
substantially
more
than
the
minimum
ordinance
requirements.
The
bold
language
that
shows
the
fully
developed
expected
usable,
open
space
of
39.2
acres
is
the
amount
that
has
to
be
built
on
laurel
island
and
if
you
go
down
to
page
16,
the
next
page,
just
the
second
full
paragraph,
it
says
any
increase.
P
That
number
requires
a
visit
back
to
city
council,
so
it
has
to
it
has
to
have
39.2
acres
of
usable
space,
which
I
point
out
is
about
four
times
the
amount
that
the
city
actually
requires
per
its
putt
ordinance.
It
only
requires
laurel
island
to
have
9.8
acres.
So
if,
if
you
think
about
that,
there's
actually
31
acres
that
could
be
developed
into
uses
other
than
open
space,
but
for
this
pud
it
will
be
green,
usable,
open
space.
J
It
does
it
does.
I
I
read
the
paragraph
about
the
expected,
the
paragraph
you
just
quoted
any
increase
and
then
any
reduction,
but
so
maybe
my
suggestion,
as
as
a
you
know,
a
future
user
of
this
document
is,
we
should
not
have
the
minimums
in
there
if
I
were
a
future
buyer
of
this
property
that
would
be
sort
of
a
confusing
complication.
J
P
It'll
be
developed
as
laurel
island
develops
out
so
over
time.
It'd
be
wonderful
to
be
able
to
pick
a
timeline
for
that,
but,
as
we
all
know,
in
the
times
of
covid,
you
know
all
of
our
best
laid
plans
have
been
delayed
and
deferred.
So,
as
laurel
island
develops,
the
green
space
will
get
developed
along
with
it
that
could
that
could
be
over.
You
know
a
short
period
of
time,
a
long
period
of
time.
It
really
depends
on
how
quickly
laurel
island
gets
developed.
P
J
AG
AG
AG
The
details
of
providing
usable,
open
space
are
really
better
and
in
the
time
frame
because
of
the
city,
the
expectations
of
the
city
receive
it
and
maintain.
It
are
really
better
addressed
in
the
the
development
agreement
at
which,
which
will
include
a
an
infrastructure
improvements
agreement
that
controls
tiff
funds,
and
that's
really
why
we've
left
it
out.
You
know
there
were
one
of
my
things
was:
let's
go
ahead
and
develop
it
as
it
comes
forward,
as
you've
mentioned.
AG
You
know
so
many
number
units
this
this
amount
is
going
to
be
developed
and
the
problem
is
the
expense
associated
with
the
former
landfill
use
of
the
site.
So
it's
not
just
as
simple
as
sort
of
mowing.
You
know
mowing
down
trees
and
and
putting
out
soccer
fields,
there's
a
lot
more
to
it
than
you
would
typically
have,
and-
and
that
is
a
huge
you
know-
I
people
use
the
daniel
island
comparison
all
the
time.
I
that's
a
huge
difference
here.
We
don't
it's
not
a
completely
clean
slate.
The
other
difference
is
you?
AG
Don't
have
because
of
the
former
landfill
you're
unlikely
to
have
single-family,
detached
or
attached
residences
on
the
site,
like
you
do
at
daniel
island.
So
you're,
not
as
concerned
with
your
where
your
retail
and
office
and
town
center
are
because
it's
it's
an
urban
urban
core
area
and
if
you
have
retail
office
and
multi-family
housing,
which
I
think
is
the
plan
it
doesn't.
AG
J
Truth
to
educate
our
public
on
the
distinctions
between
a
piece
of
property
that
you
know
has
been
a
industrial
site
now,
officially
a
brown
field
and
is
going
to
provide
the
kind
of
urban
living
that
we
heard
citizens
favorably
comment
on
tonight,
so
I
I
I
think
this
is
a
a
remarkable
use
of
this
land.
I'm
not
disputing
that.
I'm
just
trying
to
clarify
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
citizens
have
you
know
told
us
are
the
value
of
this
so
could?
J
AG
AG
It
concludes
that
pm
traffic
hour
impacts
going
to
be
greater
than
am
impact
so
that
you're
going
to
measure
the
impacts
of
the
development
by
pm
traffic
hours
instead
of
am
and
then
you
should,
cover,
am
as
well
or
am
will
be
better
covered.
So
the
idea
is
that
as
long
as
the
traffic
impact
is
neutral
and
the
little
the
little
chart
allows
you
to
convert
from
one
land
use
to
another
fairly
easily
based
on
pm
traffic
count,
which
is
based
on
that
traffic
study
impact
study.
AG
You
know
there's
it's
called
performance
based
zoning
and
I
don't
know
that
we
do
it
a
lot,
but
it's
it's
it's
a
it's
a
good
thing
to
do,
and
hopefully
we'll
do
more
of
it
in
the
future.
You
know
I've
heard
people
mention
that
there
should
be
other
impact
related
triggers
and
I
think
the
problem
with
that
is
it
is
it's
an
island.
A
AI
H
AI
Talking
about
a
zoning
ordinance
tonight,
a
pud
is
a
zoning
ordinance.
A
pud
is
not
us,
you
know
getting
out
the
models
and
figuring
out
exactly
where
things
go
and
getting
into
technical
design
and
all
these
different
plans.
That's
that's
for
much
later
in
the
process,
especially
with
a
development
agreement
that
any
any
developer
in
embarking
on
a
project
like
this
is
going
to
have
to
pursue,
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
these
details
get
worked
out.
AI
This
is
it
you
know,
and
I
mentioned
in
one
of
our
other
meetings
when
this
was
discussed,
I
mean
think
about
how
broad
and
open-ended
our
normal
zoning
is.
I
mean
the
level
of
constraints
and
the
level
of
protections
and
safeguards
that
are
already
built
into
this
framework.
Right
now
are
not
of
there's
nothing
like
this
in
our
default
zoning
ordinance.
So
there's
already
a
tremendous
amount
of
winnowing.
T
AI
Of
what
we
can
expect
on
a
property
of
this
kind
and
when
you're
talking
about
a
development
horizon
decades
into
the
future,
there's
no
way
you
can
sit
here
and
say
the
office
is
going
there,
the
the
this
is
going
over
there.
You
just
can't
do
that
to
this.
To
that
degree,
although
they
do
do
that
with
the
open
space
elements,
so
I
just
want
to,
as
we
discuss
this
and
kind
of
decide,
whether
to
take
final
votes
today.
Just
let's
just
realize
that
that
this
is,
you
know
one
step
in
the
process.
AI
It's
not
the
end
of
the
process.
Puds
get
amended
all
the
time
I
was
dealing
with
a
put
in
mount
pleasant.
I
think
that's
on
its
into
its
20th
amendment.
You
know
out
there
by
the
town
center,
so
these
things
can
be
amended
over
time.
You
know,
and
I'll
close
with
with
this,
I
I
sympathize
and
understand
the
folks
in
this
community
that
are
just
very
concerned
about
development.
I've
got
family
members
that
are
very
concerned
about
development.
They
drive
through
the
crosstown.
AI
They
see
all
these
apartments
and
these
buildings
and
it's
not
the
charleston.
They
grew
up
in,
and
I
understand
that
and
respect
that,
but,
as
we've
talked
about
before,
we've
got
a
a
decision
to
make
as
a
city
are
we
gonna
continue
to
sprawl
out
into
you,
know,
ravenel
and
up
61
and
into
kane
hawaii,
and
all
these
places
that
we
don't
want
to
develop
that
are
going
to
place
additional
burdens
and
and
difficulties
on
our
infrastructure,
or
do
we
want
to
grow
like
a
city?
This
is
what
cities
do.
AI
You
know,
if
I
could
snap
my
fingers
and
live
in
the
charleston
of
the
1970s
and
80s,
like
my
parents
did
I'd,
do
it,
I
get
it,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
is
an
exciting
opportunity.
There
are
a
lot
of
jurisdictions
around
the
country
that
would
be.
You
know,
over
the
moon
for
an
opportunity
like
this
we're
lucky
that
we're
even
in
the
cards
for
this
kind
of
development.
AI
This
is
the
exact
type
of
development
that
you
want
to
see
in
the
21st
century,
and
I
want
to
commend
the
developers
and
the
team
for
for
listening
to
the
public
and
going
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
making
some
tweaks
to
the
overall
proposal.
I
think
they've
done
a
great
job
and
this
is
not
the
end
of
laurel
island.
This
is
just
the
beginning
and
it's
going
to
be
a
long
process
into
the
future
and
it's
exciting.
AJ
I
proudly
live
and
it's
the
best
place.
I've
ever
lived
and
it
tickles
me
every
day
that
I
get
to
represent
this
national
award-winning
plant
master
planned
community
daniel
island,
which
is
a
giant
pud
and
it
in
a
pud
like
ross
mentioned.
Like
chip
has
mentioned,
it
sets
some
expectations.
It's
a
zoning
and-
and
we
need
to
differentiate
that
from
a
development
agreement.
They
are
very
different
things,
for
example
the
recreation
center.
That's
now
being
the
city
of
charleston
rec
center,
that's
being
constructed
on
daniel
island
is
because
of
a
amendment
to
the
development
agreement.
AJ
So
every
time
it
makes
sense.
When
you
have
a
document,
that's
20
years
old,
it
makes
sense
that
you're
going
to
have
amendments
as
market
factors
change
things
like
that,
and
so
it's
important
to
differentiate
the
two,
and
I
think
when
you
look
at
something
like
daniel
island
and
what
this
city
and
how
the
city
and
the
developers
worked
together
and
the
absolute
magic
that
has
been
created
out
here.
That
is
recognized
around
the
nation.
AJ
That
gives
me
a
lot
of
assuredness
that
this
city
will
will
do
the
same
thing
in
other
puds
moving
forward
and
again,
these
are.
These
are
much
different
animals.
You
talk
daniel
island,
where
it's
a
lot
of
single
family
homes.
You
have
affordable
housing
that
is
seamlessly
integrated
into
daniel
island.
It
is
brilliant.
AJ
The
same
thing
will
happen
in
laurel
island.
The
same
expectations
will
be
set,
but
you
do
have
a
difference
in
that
one
is
much
more
suburban.
The
other
is
much
more
urban.
You
can't
plan
the
two
the
same
and
I
think
that's
where
we're
getting
hung
up.
You
know
when
you're
talking
density
versus
you
know
thousands
of
acres
spread
out,
so
I'm
with
ross,
I'm
with
council
member
mitchell.
I
think
this
is
the
best
use
of
this
land.
AJ
F
You,
mr
mayor,
I
am
listen.
I'm
gonna
yield
the
balance
of
my
time
to
councilman
apparel.
I
think
he
laid
out
the
case
extremely
well
when
we
think
about
even
the
peninsula
as
historic
as
we
are.
The
majority
of
historic
district
peninsula
was
developed
without
a
plan
without
a
part
without
a
planning
commission.
As
a
matter
of
fact-
and
you
know
what
those
developers
at
that
time
didn't
really
do
that
bad
pods
work,
I've
always
been
a
big
proponent
of
putts.
The
public
gets
more
information.
F
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
I'll,
be
brief,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
comments
made.
I
just
I
I
want
to.
I
want
to
speak
to
that
whole
idea
of
amending
puds
we've
been
doing
this
a
long
time
and
I've
been
a
long
resistor
of
amending
cuts.
The
extent
we
can
do
everything
on
the
front
end
and
I
get
it.
G
You
can't
get
every
detail,
but
here
is
a
perfect
example
of
where
pud
the
pud
and
then
the
development
agreement
really
are
are
not
in
on
a
parallel
track,
and
I
heard
mr
mcqueen
it
caught
my
ear
and
I'm
wildly
interested
in
it.
It's
the
whole
idea
of
traffic
counts,
going
on
and
off
the
island.
One
of
the
things
that's
still
yet
to
be
decided
is
how
people
are
going
to
get
on
and
off
that
island.
Right
I
mean,
what's
going
to
happen,
are
we
going
to
build
a
bridge
who's
going
to
own
that
bridge?
G
G
When
it
comes,
it's
going
to
have
a
lot
of
detail
in
it
that
at
that
point,
I
think,
will
really
more
set
this
in
stone
as
to
what
it's
all
going
to
look
like
going
forward,
but
the
the
the
traffic
counts
and
the
impacts
on
the
areas
around
we're
not
even
to
that
point
yet
because
ingress
and
egress,
although
sort
of
generally
mapped
out
is,
has
yet
to
be
determined.
And
so
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
big
part
of
what
we
do
going
forward.
G
So
for
those
who
haven't
seen
enough,
there's
going
to
be
more
to
come
on
this.
For
those
who
think
this
is
off
to
a
good
start.
I
see
where
the
cards
are
going
with
this
we'll
get
it
moving,
but
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
both
sides
of
coin,
particularly
from
the
city
side.
When
it
comes
to
mobility
on
and
off
the
track.
Thanks.
H
H
We
are
dedicating
a
significant
portion
of
this
development
to
affordable
housing.
Not
too
long
ago,
when-
and
those
of
my
colleagues
who've
been
on
this
council
longer
than
I
have.
That
was
almost
a
dirty
word
and
it
was
so
much
pushback
on
including
affordable
housing
in
any
projects
and
stuff,
and
was
it
was
not
in
my
backyard
kind
of
mentality,
the
folks
who
were
pushing
back
and
did
not
want
this.
H
H
It's
time
to
comment
about
it,
because
that
is
our
responsibility
to
make
sure
that
we
do
incorporate
public
input
on
these
projects
as
much
as
possible,
I'm
going
to
vote
for
the
project.
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
project,
we're
going
to
have
more
citizen
inputs
as
as
we
get
into
the
weeds
with
this
as
time
develops,
but
I
just
wanted
to
echo
ms
cable's
comments
along
those
lines
and
thank
her
and
that
organization
for
their
diligence.
I'm
looking
over
on
shoulder.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
All
right.
A
B
B
A
J
All
right,
mr
mayor,
I
did
have
one
one
just
detail
thing
under
the
workforce:
housing
section
2.4.
I
understand
that
the
20
of
units
is
being
divided
into
two
components.
10
percent
will
be
dedicated
permanently
under
that
category
of
rental
units.
That
will
be
a
price
to
work
with
an
income
of
80
or
less,
and
then
then
the
other
10
is
going
to
work
for
the
same
income,
income,
households
and
and
the
clock
for
those
10
years
will
commence
on
the
lease
date
for
for
each
such
unit.
J
I
was
wondering,
if
maybe
to
clarify
for
a
future
owner
that
we
should
put
on
the
first
lease
date
of
a
unit,
because
it's
not
a
rolling
10
years
once
a
unit
comes
online
with
its
certificate
certificate
of
occupancy
and
is
rented
out
for
the
first
time.
That
starts
the
10-year
clock,
but
it
doesn't
say
the
first
time
a
unit
is
leased.
So
I
didn't
that
was
a
detail
that
we
should
just
insert
a
clarifying
word
there
on
the
first
lease
date
for
each
such
unit.
So
that's
my
little
all
right.
J
Are
going
to
hold
back
a
vote,
but
I,
but
I
I
wanted
to
appeal
to
the
developers.
I
know
that
people
have
been
asking
for
different
terms
for
the
temporarily
subsidized
units.
Let's
just
call
them
that
the
extra
10
percent
that's
not
permanent,
and
I
was
wondering
if
maybe
the
developers
might
go
back
and
rethink
their
pro
forma.
We
have,
it
would
make
20
of
the
entire
property
would
be
affordable
to
income
earners
in
the
less
than
80
percent
category.
A
C
A
O
Yes,
sir,
okay
back
to
the
screen
share
here
and
we
will
move
on
okay
e5.
This
is
the
magnolia
development,
which
is
an
existing
plan
unit
development
on
the
neck
of
charleston,
and
this
is
a
request
for
an
amendment
to
amend
sections
related
to
net
density,
permitted
uses
and
temporary
parking
standards
and
to
rezone
a
parcel.
O
Tms-4660043,
so
it
can
be
included
in
the
planned
unit
development.
This
is
the
parker
marine
site,
which
is
roughly
in
this
location
here
in
the
pod.
If
you
all
can
see
my
cursor,
of
course,
the
whole
pud
is
on
the
west
side
of
king
street
in
the
areas
of
milford
and
braswell
fronting
on
the
ashley
river
south
of
the
rosemont
neighborhood
and
north
of
wagner
terrace.
O
We
have
a
couple
other
slides
here
that
relate
to
the
pud
and
the
changes
here,
the
aerial
images
of
the
puds
parcels.
Then
we
have
a
slide
from
the
applicant.
So
on
the
left,
you
see
the
page
from
the
old
pud
and
on
the
right,
the
page
from
the
new
pug
we've
edited
these
down
a
little
bit,
but
I
did
want
to
just
zip
through
these,
so
you
all
could
see
the
difference
in
the
pud
with
these
amendments.
O
Then
we
have
the
old
layout
of
the
zoning,
and
now
we
have
the
pud
on
the
site
and
the
current
hi
for
the
parker
marine,
which
will
become
part
of
the
pud
and
the
overall
developed
area
and
the
percentages.
The
various
percentages
for
open
space,
of
course,
open
space
is
38
of
the
area
and
usable
open
space
is
33
percent.
So
again,
just
like
oral
island,
a
very
substantial
portion
of
the
site
is
usable,
open
space.
O
As
you
can
see
here,
a
variety
of
of
heights,
the
greatest
heights
are
the
ones
that
are
in
the
red,
and
then
we
have
the
street
hierarchy,
the
more
intense
streets
or
towards
the
middle
of
the
site.
And
then,
of
course,
you
have
the
bridge
that
leads
into
the
site
from
the
south,
as
well
as
the
accesses
to
king
street
from
the
east
and
then
some
street
sections
that
have
some
slight
modifications
to
deal
with
the
reworking
of
a
couple
of
the
streets
up
there,
and
these
are
all
again
in
your
overall
packages.
O
I'm
happy
to
go
back
to
any
of
these
if
they're
items
that
folks
have
particular
questions
on.
So
here's
the
open
space
and
a
lot
of
the
concentration
of
the
open
spaces
on
these
waterfront
park,
areas,
which
will
of
course
be
accessible
from
the
bridge
and
also
from
the
streets
that
come
in
off
king
street,
so
they'll
be
completely
publicly
accessible
and
the
connectivity
with
the
surrounding
area,
from
the
east
to
the
east
and
to
the
south,
and
that's
the
end
of
their
slides.
A
B
AK
AK
First,
as
you
most
of
you,
have
probably
seen
we're
very
pleased
that
the
work
is
well
underway
at
magnolia,
you've,
probably
seen
environmental
remediation
and
site
work
they're
in
progress
as
we
prepare
for
new
streets
and
infrastructure
that
are
being
installed.
So
I'm
very
excited
about
being
at
this
point
with
this
project.
AK
What
mr
morgan
just
described
exactly
right-
this
is
apropos
of
what
you
were
you
council
were
just
discussing.
This
is
an
amendment
to
an
existing
pod,
but
with
a
very
good
reason,
which
is
the
addition
of
the
parker
marine
property.
When
this
pud
was
pre
was
approved
back
in
2014,
it
was
missing
that
central
waterfront
piece
of
parker,
it's
about
seven
acres,
that's
now
being
added
to
this
putt,
and
probably
the
most
important
thing
is
that
that
completes
the
waterfront,
which
the
total
park
public
access.
AK
You
know,
public
open
space
within
magnolia
will
be
about
24
acres.
This
completes
the
waterfront
continuous
public
access
for
the
length
of
magnolia,
going
down
across
the
bridge
to
wagner
terrace,
of
course,
adding
the
additional
acreage
we're
adjusting
the
density,
in
short,
we're
reducing
the
retail,
adding
more
residential
office
hotel
space.
AK
It
requires
15
of
all
residential
to
be
workforce,
housing
and
then
also
under
the
development
agreement.
The
developer
is
donating,
one
point
at
least
1.5
or
more
acres
of
land
to
the
city
and
fee
simple
for
the
city's
use
for
affordable
housing
and
of
and
that's
permanent,
of
course,
I'll
wrap
up
we've.
Most
of
you
have
been
very
kind
to
speak
to
our
team
and
councilmember
mitchell,
the
horses
in
your
district.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
we're
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
mr
wilson.
B
A
O
Okay,
we
will
move
on
to
those
okay.
E6
is
a
pud
amendment
to
the
wando
village
pud,
which
is
in
the
king
hawaii
peninsula
area
of
charleston,
it's
at
546,
riverman
trail
and
the
intersection
of
highway
41..
It's
a
66,
acre
pud.
This
is
a
relatively
minor
amendment
to
the
pud
it's
to
allow
for
a
sound
barrier
to
be
built
adjacent
to
a
portion
of
the
property
that
is
next
to
the
newly
widened
and
heightened
highway
41
bridge
in
this
area
here,
because,
of
course,
there's
a
new
highway
41
bridge
over
the
mondo
river.
O
In
that
location,
we
have
a
couple
of
images
to
show
you
from
that.
Here
again
is
the
overall
parcels
that
are
involved
in
the
pod,
and
here
is
the
new
bridge
for
highway
41
and
the
property
is
again
right
here
on
this
image
and
we
have
a
little
bit
closer
view
and,
of
course,
you
see
the
difference
in
the
area
once
the
bridge
comes
in,
the
bridge
was
much
higher
and
overlooked,
some
of
the
property
necessitating
the
need
for
the
sound
barrier
and
the
wall.
O
Here's
a
new
view
of
june
2019
and
here
is
the
existing
land
use
plan,
and
you
see
the
reference
made
here
of
a
12
foot
tall,
sound
barrier
wall
in
that
location
there
would
be
vegetation
in
front
of
it.
So
if
you
were
coming
down
highway
41,
you
would
see
the
vegetation
before
you
saw
the
actual
wall
itself
and
it
would
be
a
masonry
wall
and
here's
a
little
bit
more
of
a
zoom
in
on
that.
O
N
AL
O
A
So
that
concludes
our
public
hearings
for
this
evening.
Thank
all
those
who
participated
and
miss
gadsden
will
be
to
you
in
just
a
minute,
we'll
let
you
go
first
with
the
citizens
participation
period
about
so
first
before
we
do
that.
Briefly,
approval
of
city
council
approval.
Second,
any
additions,
corrections
deletions
if
none
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye,
aye,
aye
opposed.
E
A
B
A
AF
Yes,
I'm
here,
thank
you
for
this
time.
I'm
speaking
I
wanted
to
address
the
city's
budget
and
I
am
encouraging
the
city
to
move
in
a
spirit
of
transparency
and
also
listen,
listen
to
grassroots
organizers,
not
just
myself,
but
those
that
I
am
in
community
with,
and
I
wanted
to
stress
a
couple
of
points.
AF
Each
taxpayer
pays
341.40
to
the
police
department.
Comparatively
youth
and
education
programs
receive
a
little
over
one
dollar
per
capita.
I
really
want
that
number
to
really
sit
with
folks
with
that.
With
that
point,
the
charleston
police
department
takes
up
almost
25
of
the
city's
budget
to
break
that
down.
That's
53
million
dollars
comparatively
the
department
of
housing
and
community
development,
currently
receives
one
percent
of
our
annual
budget.
AF
25
53
million
commute,
but
housing
gets
one
percent,
that's
untenable!
That's
it!
That's
not
sustainable,
and
I
think
it
shows
where
our
values
are
as
a
city,
and
I
urge
our
council
members
to
be
more
creative,
be
more
progressive,
be
more
just
and
how
funds
are
allocated
moving
forward.
We
saw
what
happened
this
summer
and
it
wasn't
just
about
broken
glass,
your
city,
your
citizens,
your
young
people
were
crying
out
for
help
and
they
were
met
with
militarized
vehicles,
expensive,
militarized
vehicles.
AF
B
B
C
AM
Thank
you.
I
I
want
to
speak
to
the
budget
in
the
budget
itself.
The
city
describes
itself
as
a
city
that
embraces
change,
and
I
I
urge
you
all
to
kind
of
embrace
this
philosophy
as
we
move
forward
with
the
2021
budget
and
our
10-year
plan,
I
think
it's
important
to
realize
that
you
know
where
we
spend
our
money
is
a
true
reflection
of
of
our
priorities
as
a
city
as
a
community,
I'm
a
small
business
owner,
I'm
multiple
businesses
and
I
live
downtown
for
10
years
here
in
charleston.
AM
I
know
that
this
is
the
city
budget
is
an
enormously
complicated
endeavor
to
manage,
and
I
know
that
whenever
we
look
at
changing
it,
it's
in
our
nature
to
say
hey:
where
would
the
money
come
from,
but
you
know
make
no
mistake:
I've
done
some
some
kind
of
small
dives
into
the
budget,
and
I
and
I'm
confident,
there's
plenty
of
room
for
improvement
and
we
take
the
time
to
focus
on
that
improvement
for
2020
in
the
budget
alone.
You
know
we're
spending
three
million
dollars
on
new
led
lights
in
volvo
stadium.
AM
You
know
we're
spending
over
12
million
dollars
alone,
just
on
recreation
projects
on
daniel
island.
You
know
the
police
department.
I
know
that's
a
huge
focus
with
a
lot
of
groups.
I
think
the
budget
as
a
whole
should
be
a
focus,
but
just
with
the
police
department,
you
know,
listen
we're
spending
3.2
million
dollars
in
the
past
two
years,
just
on
brand
new
cars.
You
know
six
million
dollars
in
the
past
four
years,
just
on
brand
new
vehicles.
AM
You
know
with
you
got
to
contrast
this
with
the
fact
that
the
the
the
city
youth
budget
has
an
operating
cost
of
only
14
000
like
this.
This
is
a
reflection
of
our
priorities,
so
I
just
really
want
to
urge
you
guys
to
take
this
to
heart,
really
embrace
the
concept
that
we
can
always
learn
more.
We
always
have
to
adapt
to
be
better
human
beings.
AM
AM
AN
AN
AN
AN
T
T
These
outcomes
are
a
natural
result
of
a
system
of
inequitable
policies
which
always
govern
our
city
and
people
are
dying
and
being
displaced,
but
god
forbid,
we
can't
find
someone
who
threw
a
brick
in
an
empty
building.
Evidence
shows
that
police
do
not
make
a
safe
funneling
police
into
communities
of
color
and
pushing
officers
to
make
arrests,
perpetuates
harm
and
trauma,
and
there
are
massive
disparities
in
funding
that
perpetuate
racial
injustice
in
our
city
that
have
done
so
since
slavery.
T
It
was
mentioned
earlier
by
several
people
that
each
taxpayer
pays
around
340
to
the
police
department.
Yet
youth
and
education
programs
get
a
little
over
a
dollar.
Imagine
the
type
of
charleston
we
could
have.
We
allocated
just
nine
percent
of
that
53
million
dollars.
The
charleston
police
department
receives
instant
life,
affirming
community
programs
and
services.
The
people's
budget
coalition
is
requesting
an
increased
police
accountability
and
a
civilian
police
accountability
council,
in
addition
to
a
5
million
reallocation
of
police
budget.
T
So,
let's
focus
on
the
plight
of
the
people
instead
of
the
preferences
of
tourists
who
shuffle
in
and
out
of
an
adult
disneyland,
to
go
to
cbd
shops
to
get
the
same
plant
that
the
charleston
police
arrest,
black
people
for
at
a
rate
of
77.5
percent,
and
I
urge
the
council
to
choose
knowledge
and
invoke
empathy
to
make
charleston
more
equitable
and
sustainable
when
reviewing
the
budget
this
year.
Thanks
for
your
time,.
AO
Yes,
my
name
is
kari
lucas.
I
am
also
with
the
low
country
action
committee
and
the
budget
coalition.
I
want
to
echo
the
request
for
transparency
through
the
process
of
approving
the
budget
and
also
echo
the
request
for
a
five
million
dollar
reallocation
from
police.
It's
already
been
stated
that
the
police
department
takes
up
almost
25
of
our
budget.
AO
According
to
the
vera
institute,
charleston
spends
22
percent
of
its
budget
on
policing,
while
virginia
beach,
which
is
a
city
with
over
three
times.
Our
population
spends
only
nine
percent
on
its
budgeting.
This
is
clearly
under
the
guise
that
the
police
keep
people
safe.
However,
police,
it's
under
the
guise
that
police
keep
people
safe
from
crimes.
However,
policing
experts
have
noted
that
there
is
no
correlation
between
the
number
of
police
and
the
rate
of
crime
in
a
place.
L
Yes,
good
evening,
christopher
king
preservation
society,
I
just
want
to
quickly
comment
on
an
issue
that
came
before
ways
and
means
wonder.
Let
council
know
that
we
appreciate
the
creation
of
the
task
force
to
study
the
smokestacks,
but
we
have
not
heard
anything
from
the
city
to
this
point
and
we
feel
that
we're
losing
valuable
time.
L
It
just
continues
to
feel
as
though
the
city
is
driving
towards
demolition
and
preventing
the
due
diligence
from
being
done,
and
we
urge
you
to
not
lock
yourself
into
a
contract,
particularly
of
this
magnitude,
until
the
due
diligence
is
able
to
occur,
also
want
to
quickly
speak
to
the
amplification
on
carriages.
We
were
surprised
to
see
this
on
the
agenda
and
just
want
to
urge
you
all
to
understand
that
these
tours
take
place
in
neighborhoods
where
people
live,
and
we
feel
that
this
would
be
incredibly
intrusive
on
the
quiet
enjoyment
of
the
residents.
L
We
are
very
concerned
about
this
and
urge
you
to
please
not
approve
it
and
then,
lastly,
on
the
the
ordinance
preventing
handing
out
of
free
samples,
we
applaud
this
effort.
We've
spoken
with
many
businesses
and
king
street
property
owners
who
are
strongly
in
support
of
this.
We've
heard
numerous
stories
about
how
the
predatory
sales
practices
are
really
hurting
the
adjacent
businesses,
but
also
the
character
of
king
street
as
a
king
street
property
owner
and
retailer.
We
urge
you
to
support
this
ban
for
the
betterment
betterment
of
the
residents,
visitors
and
shoppers.
L
AP
AP
However,
this
sampling
is
important
to
our
business
model
and
in
the
cosmetics
industry
we
need
to
be
able
to
interact
with
customers
on
the
street
so
that
they
have
the
ability
to
feel
the
products
and
passing
out
samples
is
important
to
introduce
them
to
the
market,
we're
more
than
happy
to
talk
further
with
you
and
recognize
a
less
aggressive
approach
and
we
can
make
a
happy
medium
somewhere.
However,
I
hope
you
understand
the
financial
strain
that
this
holds
on
our
business.
T
T
B
B
AQ
Hey
emily,
okay,
great
awesome,
hi!
Thank
you
guys
so
much
and
thank
you
jason
for
allowing
for
lifting
up
that
we
signed
up
to
speak
tonight.
I
appreciate
that
from
coming
to
council
tonight
regarding
the
2021
budget,
however,
I'd
first
like
to
acknowledge
the
lack
of
transparency
and
accessibility
of
this
public
hearing
to
residents
of
charleston.
AQ
I'm
curious
to
know
how
the
city
defines
public
hearing,
although
I'm
admittedly
new
to
the
budget
process,
it
does
not
seem
productive
or
fair
to
have
a
hearing
on
legislation.
That's
not
even
published
online.
Yet
in
a
time
of
great
need,
the
desire
for
transparency
is
paramount.
The
accessibility
and
publicity
of
the
2021
budget
must
be
improved
by
city
officials.
I'm
confused
about
the
point
of
having
a
public
meeting
at
all.
AQ
If
there
is
no
true
intention
of
engaging
the
public
beyond
individual
arguments,
the
budget
priorities
and
what
we
value
as
a
city,
the
very
least
that
charleston
could
do
is
to
authentically
engage
constituents
about
where
their
own
taxpayer
dollars
are
going
shifting
back
to
budget
priorities.
The
current
definition
of
public
safety
in
the
city
of
charleston
is
not
only
extremely
limited
but
actively
causing
harm
to
residents
of
the
city.
The
data
collected
by
the
people's
budget
coalition
leaves
no
doubt
about
this.
AQ
AQ
This
is
true
when
all
charges
are
considered
cumulatively,
but
it's
also
the
most
dramatic
when
considering
certain
lower
level
charges,
despite
making
up
roughly
one
quarter
of
the
population,
black
people
compromised,
startingly,
high
percentages
of
the
arrests
for
marijuana
related
offenses,
as
well
as
charges
for
driving
under
a
suspended
license
and
a
host
of
other
minor
charges.
Perhaps
most
unsettling
is
a
dramatic
disparity
in
arrests
between
black
and
white
youths
under
the
age
of
18..
AQ
Furthermore,
through
an
analysis
of
how
police
spend
their
time
in
the
city,
it
bears
repeating
and
the
past
five
years
there
have
been
more
arrests
for
marijuana
possession
than
all
violent
offenses
combined
police
respond
to
a
crime.
They
do
not
prevent
crime,
they
simply
respond
when
there
is
a
lack
of
resources
when
people
don't
have
what
they
need
by
allowing
cpd
to
take
up
units
of
affordable
housing,
for
example
in
gadsden
green
apartment
complex.
This
does
not
make
the
resonance
of
that
of
that
area
any
safer.
AQ
It
just
increases
the
amount
of
overpolicing
in
that
community
and
it
adds
to
racist
displacement
and
continued
gentrification
of
charleston.
If
charleston's
goal
is
to
actually
keep
people
safe,
then
we
must
finally
do
away
with
the
myth
that
policing
is
the
best
way
to
do
that.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
your
time.
B
AH
Hi
mayor,
how
are
you
thank
you?
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
speak
I'd
like
to
address
the
sampling
ordinance
that
is
in
front
of
council
tonight.
As
the
chairwoman
of
the
central
business
district
improvement
commission,
I
urge
council
to
defer
voting
on
this
ordinance
as
a
local
attorney.
I
I
think
that
we
can
craft
something
that
will
reflect
the
interests
of
the
majority
of
king
street
business
owners,
as
well
as
help
protect
some
of
the
businesses
that
do
rely
on
sampling
on
the
peninsula.
AH
A
AE
It's
just
a
drastic
thing
that
we've
been
seeing
happen
over
and
over
again,
without
really
looking
at
the
real
issues,
and
just
from
my
experience
working
with
youth
programs
in
the
guys
from
green
area
and
also
on
the
east
side,
I've
seen
that
severely
underfunded.
So
if
we
really
want
the
safety
of
our
community,
we
would
put
more
money
into
these
programs
and
prioritize
black
children
and
black
youth.
AE
AE
B
A
Great
did
we
miss
anybody,
think
not
well.
Thank
you,
madam
clark,
for
for
organizing
all
that
and
let
us
know
I
feel
like
we
had
a
robust
participation
from
the
public
tonight
with
both
our
public
hearings
and
public
participation
period.
I
want
every
thank
everybody
for
sharing
their
thoughts
and
their
time
with
us.
So
next
is
our
approval
of
appointments
for
the
tourism
commission.
Y
H
A
H
A
Next
is
a
discussion
presentation
by
meg
thompson,
who's,
director
of
business
and
neighborhood
services
on
our
central
business
district
improvement
commission
that
has
been
meeting
quite
regularly.
They
met
weekly
for
a
while
now
they're
to
every
other
two
weeks.
Council,
members,
mitchell
and
c
kings
have
been
a
part
of
that
and
they
have
some
recommendations
for
us
this
evening.
Meg.
AR
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
council
for
the
time
tonight.
As
always,
I
promise
to
be
brief
with
my
report
here.
As
the
mayor
was
saying,
the
central
business
district
improvement
commission
was
formed
over
the
summer
and
has
been
meeting
since
mid-august
and
just
as
a
reminder,
the
mission
of
the
commission
is
to
assure
the
long-term
economic
vitality
of
king
street
in
the
surrounding
commercial
area,
and
there
to
do
so
by
considering
and
recommending
policy
and
program
changes
to
you
all
that
will
better
the
district.
AR
As
mayor
said,
I
do
want
to
thank
the
commission
members
and
including
the
mayor
and
council
members
seekings
and
councilmember
mitchell.
You
heard
from
lauren
earlier.
I
also
want
to
thank
to
honorary
commission
members,
council,
member
del
chapo
and
council
member
appel,
who
have
also
made
it
a
point
to
attend
those
meetings
when
they're
able.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
your
time
and
dedication
like
the
mayor
said,
this
is
a
very
passionate
group
that
has
been
working
very
hard
for
the
district.
AR
So
why
did
we
form
this
commission
is
what
I
kind
of
want
to
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
on
this
slide
with.
So
this
graph
is
taken
from
placer
data,
which
is
a
data
platform
that
we
use
that
tracks
basically
foot
traffic,
you
draw
a
square
around
an
area
and
they
can
track
the
number
of
mobile
phones
that
go
in
and
out
of
an
area.
Now
I
want
to
assure
you
this
is
all
perfectly
fine
and
legal.
AR
No
personal
data
is
shared
or
anything
like
that,
but
it
does
give
an
idea
about
the
activity
in
a
certain
area,
so
this
graph
shows
in
blue
the
foot
traffic
for
king
street
in
2019
and
in
red
for
king
street
for
2020.,
as
you
can
see
in
the
first
couple
months
here,
there
is
a
pattern
to
king
street.
There
is
a
regularity
to
the
foot
traffic
and
then
in
march.
AR
Obviously,
that
pattern
was
broken
and
if
you
look
at
this
graph,
it
looks
a
little
bit
like
a
heart
monitor
and
you
can
see
where
the
kind
of
the
heart
of
our
downtown
flatlined
essentially
for
three
months.
It
started
to
pick
back
up
over
the
summer.
The
events
of
may
30th
are
right
around
in
here,
and
then
things
proceeded
to
get
better
and
better
until
right
about
here.
AR
Where
you
can
see,
the
blue
line
really
dips
for
2019,
that
was
a
hurricane
in
september,
happened
to
also
be
the
same
weekend
that
we
finally
broke
20
000
visits.
We
had
not
broken
that
since
march,
and
you
can
see
that
the
lines
are
starting
to
merge
over
the
past
two
months
to
the
point
where
we're
even
exceeding
on
a
couple
of
days
in
a
given
month.
But
this
dip
here
is
hard
to
recover
from,
and
that
has
been
a
lot
about
what
the
commission
has
spoken
about
during
their
work.
AR
So
their
timeline
for
their
work
is
this
summer
in
the
fall,
they
have
been
working
very
hard
to
develop
a
work
plan
to
execute
this
winter
in
early
2021.
The
idea
of
getting
a
lot
of
these
projects
in
place
for
the
holiday
shopping
season,
because
it
is
very
key
to
this
district
and
then
be
able
to
assess
that
work
next
year,
so
going
through
a
very
intense
process.
The
group
identified
a
list
of
issues
for
the
district
that
they
would
like
to
see
addressed
and
eventually
decided
to
split
that
list
into
two
halves.
AR
So
for
each
of
those
items
under
safety
and
appearance
we've
been
through
this
equation
for
lack
of
a
better
word,
we
have
work
to
define
the
problem
and
understand
the
constraints,
and
then
tonight
we
are
working
to
get
the
responsible,
responsible
parties
on
board
and
secure
the
required
resources.
So
we
can
implement
a
response
now.
Obviously,
that's
where
you
come
in
the
group
as
a
whole
has
met
with
representatives
from
each
of
these
departments,
sometimes
multiple
times
as
well
as
outside
stakeholders
like
dominion,
energy,
cbb
and
the
college
of
charleston.
AR
AR
Most
of
those
are
staff
actions
that
the
mayor
and
I
have
discussed
with
those
department
heads
that
we
would
like
to
move
forward
with,
but
there
were
a
couple
of
key
requests
that
I
wanted
to
pull
out
for
you
all,
since
it
is
budget
season,
one
of
those
being
making
sure
that
streets
and
sidewalks
divisions
has
an
adequate
repair
budget
for
the
bluestone.
That's
proven
to
be
a
key
issue,
as
we've
looked
at
the
district
and
making
sure
that
housing
and
community
development
has
the
staff
to
have
outreach
workers
on
the
street.
AR
The
impact
of
christopher
jardin
and
talia
rice
has
been
great,
but
we
need
more,
so
they've
made
additional
staff
requests
of
you
all
that
the
group
hopes
you
will
support
and
while
we
are
super
eager
for
your
endorsement
of
these
recommendations,
we
have
also
made
progress
on
other
items
for
anything
from
getting
that
blue
stone,
repaired,
inventory
and
work
done
to
looking
ahead
towards
that.
Second
half
of
the
list
of
strategic
vision.
AR
The
mayor's
already
mentioned
that
the
farmers
market
is
back,
we're
doing
research
and
do
parklets
and
food
trucks
and
work
that
we
can
do
with
the
riley
center.
So
we're
very
excited
about
the
work
to
have
come
and
we'll
be
reporting
those
out
when
we
are
able
and
with
that
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions.
H
And
I
really
do
appreciate
the
work
y'all
been
doing
on
this
and
a
lot
of
thank
yous
to
those
who
are
serving
on
it.
Just
one
question
one
of
my
things:
I've
seen
happening
on
king
street
and
I
don't
know
if
this
was
ever
up
for
discussion
where
you
got
like
trash
collection,
a
little
removal.
Don't
talk
about
deliveries
of
particularly.
A
Anyone
else
so
I
would
also
like
to
thank
meg
and
the
commission
members
for
their
service.
They
really
have
been
working
hard
and
the
staff
of
the
various
departments
who've
been
responding
so
well
to
take
care
of
the
abc's
of
taking
care
of
our
central
business
district.
I
think
it's
making
a
difference
already.
For
example,
in
one
area,
king
street,
we
we
noted
that
the
light
poles
were
after
20
25
years,
we're
looking
a
little
a
little
ragged,
so
parks
department
got
them
all
painted
and
it
makes
them
look.
A
Look
so
much
nicer
and
the
cleanliness
is
up
a
notch
and
we're
working
on
so
many
different
efforts.
So
point
well
taken
meg
for
the
two
budget
items,
particularly
to
make
sure
we're
able
to
take
care
of
the
sidewalks
and,
to
hopefully
add
another
homeless
coordinator,
outreach
person
to
add
to
the
one
of
the
staff
that
we
have
already
that's
a
continuing
problem
in
the
central
business
district,
but
we'll
deal
with
those
when
we
get
to
to
budget
deliberations
and
for
right
now.
G
G
We
have
100
plus
as
councilmember
del
chapo
and
councilmember
often
call
in
so
it
just
shows
you
how
important
the
mission
of
looking
at
and
improving
as
many
things
as
we
can
on
king
street
is
to
that
group,
and
I
will
tell
you
if
something
comes
out
of
that
commission
to
this
council.
It
will
have
been
very,
very
well
vetted
and
heavily
debated
so
with
that.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
meg
and
thank
everyone.
Who's
really
put
a
lot
of
time.
A
lot
of
time
into
that
commission.
A
All
right,
anyone
else
all
right.
Thank
you!
So,
moving
on,
we
have
a
report
from
our
health
and
wellness
advisory
committee
as
well,
and
dr
susan
johnson
will
be
making
a
presentation
to
us.
The
the
committee
approved
a
recommendation
to
counsel,
basically
that
we
consider
health
and
all
the
decisions
that
we
make.
Dr
johnson.
AS
Thank
you
so
much
mayor
and
council
members.
I
appreciate
the
time
this
evening
to
be
able
to
give
you
an
update
on
our
on
our
current
work.
As
you
all
know,
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
focusing
on
health
equity
and,
in
particular,
making
sure
that
we
have
policy
systems
and
an
environment
in
place
to
support
the
health
of
all
of
our
citizens,
and
we
recognize
from
our
committee
that
there
are
many
factors
beyond
health
care
that
influence
and
impact
a
person's
health
and
well-being.
AS
So
with
that,
we
have
been
investigating
and
exploring
initiatives
that
will
help
us
really
bolster
health
equity
in
our
community
and
make
sure
that
we
are
considering
the
the
health
and
well-being
of
all
of
our
citizens
in
in
the
great
work
that
we
do.
Health
in
all
policies
is
an
initiative
that
has
been
promoted
through
the
world
health
organization
through
the
cdc
and
in
many
communities
across
our
country.
AS
California,
in
particular,
has
adopted
it
statewide.
So
we've
spent
a
good
amount
of
time
over
the
past
year,
really
doing
our
due
diligence
around
this.
This
model
and
looking
at
whether
we
felt
like
it,
was
a
good
fit
for
our
community
and
to
benefit
our
citizens,
and
we
believe
that
the
health
and
all
policies
approach
will
help
support
our
efforts
require.
It
will
provide
us
with
innovative
solutions,
a
new
policy
paradigm
and
structures
that
break
down
the
kind
of
natural
silos
that
prevent
us
from
being
able
to
achieve
our
goals
around
health
equity.
AS
So
how
does
health
and
all
policies
work?
It
is
by
nature
a
collaborative
process,
so
basically
it's
pulling
together.
Stakeholders
and
community
members
across
all
neighborhoods
across
sectors
and
across
all
policy
areas,
and
the
the
ask
is
that
we,
in
all
of
our
conversations
and
decision
making
keep
good
health
at
the
top
of
everyone's
mind.
AS
It
raises
awareness
of
social
determinants
which,
as
I
said,
is
really
a
model
that
we
use
in
deciding
which
initiatives
are
our
best
practice
and
it
helps
communities
develop.
Methods
to
reduce
health
barriers,
encourages
new
partnerships
to
promote
health,
and
it
helps
us
really
gives
us
a
framework
to
analyze
any
proposed
policies,
plans,
programs
and
projects
from
a
health
lens
and
looking
at
the
potential
impact
on
health,
both
positive
and
negative.
AS
AS
AS
In
considering
the
city
health
plan,
we
have
looked
over
the
10
key
elements
and
we've
compared
it
to
the
social
determinants
of
health,
and
we
feel
like
there
are
a
lot
of
opportunities,
particularly
because
the
the
plan
involves
community
engagement,
and
it
also
involves
all
of
the
decision,
makers
and
different
bodies
of
the
of
the
charleston
city
government.
So
we
government
so
we
feel
like
this
is
a
really
great
place
for
us
to
start
in
examining
this
this
approach.
AS
If
you
look
at
the
on
the
right-hand
side,
we
are
below
the
national
average
and
then,
if
you
look
specifically
on
the
left-hand
side
in
certain
communities
within
our
city,
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
so.
We
believe
that
this
health
and
all
policies
approach
can
help
us
to
really
start
to
shift
these
numbers
and
move
us
in
the
right
direction.
AS
So,
at
our
last
city,
health
and
wellness
advisory
committee
meeting,
which
was
held
on
october
7th,
the
we
reviewed
all
of
the
research
and
all
came
to
a
consensus
that
we
wanted
to
move
this
forward.
And
so
we
passed
a
motion
to
ask
the
city
council
of
charleston
to
consider
a
health
and
all
police
policies,
approach
in
the
development
and
implementation
of
the
2020
charleston
city
plan
and
in
doing
so,
would
consult
with
the
advisory
committee
and
other
relevant
committees
as
they
take
this
health
and
all
policies
approach.
AS
AT
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
teckenberg.
Am
I
muted?
No
I'm,
okay,
okay,
okay,
great
and
thank
you,
dr
susan
johnson,
for
that
report.
You
know,
I
feel
very
fortunate
that
I'm
on
the
health
and
wellness
committee-
and
I
appreciate
the
time
that
we've
gotten
from
top
health
experts
from
all
over
our
area,
that
they
give
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
to
our
committee.
AT
Most
of
you
know
we
have
experts
from
musc
from
roper
d,
heck,
the
charleston
county
school
district,
the
citadel
college
of
charleston
department
of
mental
health
federer.
Of
course
we
have
our
own
city
health
experts
paul's
on
the
line,
probably
jan
as
well,
and
many
other
private
health
professionals
are
on
this
committee
and
I
just
feel
like
we
should
take
advantage
of
the
partnerships
that
we
have
with.
AT
Obviously,
some
of
the
top
health
experts,
probably
anywhere
in
this
area
and
and
maybe
even
in
the
southeast,
but
you
all
saw
the
life
expectancy
chart
just
now
that
came
out
and
how
different
it
can
be
from
one
area
to
another.
And
you
know
I
feel
like
it's
very
important
for
us
to
have
health
considerations
and
decisions
that
are
made
on
city
council
and
that
we
have
healthy
public
policy.
So
I
want
to
support
this
and
I
want
to
make
a
motion
that
we
approve
the
most.
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
just
briefly
I
know
the
hours
late,
but
thank
you
susan,
dr
johnson,
for
coming
on
and
giving
us
that
report.
You
know
a
healthy
community
is
just
that
healthy
in
every
way,
shape
and
form
if
you've
all
ever
been
to
the
healthy
business
challenge
that
the
city
participates
in
you'll,
see
how
how
health
in
the
everyday
lives
of
people
from
beginning
to
end
can
be
transformative.
G
G
G
It's
another
one
of
those
committees
that
the
partition
participation
level
is
super
high
and
engaged,
and
so
I
would
advise
all
of
us
to
listen
closely
when
the
committee
speaks
and
to
take
their
advice
when
they
give
it
to
us
and
right
now,
they're
giving
some
advice,
so
I
think
we
ought
to
take
it
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
and
say.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
dr
johnson.
I
I
mean
I
I
I
think
it's
a
no-brainer
with
all
the
work
that
we're
trying
to
do
with
action-oriented
recommendations
coming
out
of
our
commission
on
equities
inclusion
and
racial
conciliation.
So
I
was
just
curious.
Do
you
work
at
all
with
dr
david
rivers
he's
he
is
chairing
the
health
and
wellness
committee
of
the
commission
on
racial
conciliation?
So
hopefully
you
can
find
your
synergy
and
connections.
AS
A
Absolutely
we
we
connected
them
right
away
both
both
of
these
the
committee
and
the
commission,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
commission
as
well.
They've
been
a
remarkable
resource
this
year
during
coven
19,
and
thank
also
staff,
paul
weeders
who's
been
kind
of
managing
the
committee
for
for
some
time
and
he
does
a
terrific
job
so
anyway,
without
further
comment,
we'll
ask
I'll
call
the
question
on
the
motion.
E
AU
AU
Okay,
good
evening,
mayor
members
of
council,
I'm
sorry
I
don't
have
dr
swett
with
me
tonight,
so
you!
So
you
only
get
me
but
I'll
try
to
keep
this
pretty
brief
tonight,
I'll
start
with
the
bad
news
first.
I
guess
so.
This
chart
actually
shows
the
daily
new
cases
in
the
u.s
since
the
start
of
the
pandemic.
AU
AU
However,
the
us
currently
only
trails
belgium,
when
you
look
at
cumulative
cases
that
are
normalized
for
population
and
the
start
of
the
outbreak,
so
I
know
some
of
you
look
at
our
dashboard,
particularly
councilmember
sheeley.
I
know
he's
commented
a
number
of
times,
so
I
thought
it
was
really
important
to
kind
of
alert
you
all
to
an
impending
issue
in
case.
You
all
see
some
changes
here
soon.
AU
Yesterday
we
received
notification
from
dhec
that
they
would
be
disabling
public
public
access
to
the
zip
code
level,
data
that
powers
our
dashboard
we've
been
told
that
access
will
be
terminated
tomorrow,
october,
the
28th,
so
we
had
just
a
day
to
really
process
that.
I
personally
hope
you
know
that
they
will
reconsider
their
position,
but
we
will
be
filing
a
data
use
agreement
with
dhec
to
hopefully
gain
continued
access.
I
just
don't
expect
that
to
be
instantaneous,
so
we
may
see
it
may
see
a
pause
in
that
service.
AU
AU
So
this
is
an
updated
chart
of
weekly
cl
weekly
cases
in
charleston
city,
zip
codes,
charleston
county
cases
and
charleston
county
tests
that
have
been
performed
at
the
city,
zip
code
level.
Cases
have
been
increasing
slightly
since
early
september
and
then
showed
a
slight
decrease
actually
over
the
past
seven
days
and
charleston
county
continues
to
show
a
slight
upward
trend
over
the
same
time
frame.
AU
So
this
chart
shows
our
rolling
seven-day
average
of
cases
per
1000
and
the
infection
rate
hold
on
actually
sorry
this
one,
I
skipped
one
and
the
dashed
line
actually
shows
our
tolerance
for
staying
in
the
green
zone.
For
the
new
cases
per
thousand.
You
can
see
we
came
close
to
coming
to
that
limit
that
keeps
us
green,
but
we've
maintained,
we've
actually
stayed
in
the
green
zone.
AU
As
you
can
see,
you
know
we
hit
this.
We
had
this
really
sharp
incline
and
spike
in
clay
in
cases
between
between
memorial,
day
and
fourth
of
july.
You
can
see,
even
though
we've
seen
you
know
a
slight
trend
upwards,
it
hasn't
been,
it
hasn't
been
a
big
spike
and
I
kind
of
I
think
there's
a
few
reasons
for
that.
I
think
number
one
you
know
our
mask
ordinance
being
in
place
has
has
been
a
tremendous
help
in
in
keeping
the
the
transmission
of
covet
down.
AU
I
also
really
wanted
to
point
out
all
the
great
communication
and
collaboration
that's
been
happening.
You
know
all
the
outreach
and
enforcement
as
well
by
our
livability
team
and,
of
course,
you
heard
from
meg
thompson
earlier
and
her
team
has
done
a
really
tremendous
job
of
communicating
with
businesses
and
keeping
those
communication
lines
open
and
also
there's
been
a
team.
That's
been
collaborating
with
the
college
of
charleston
in
the
citadel
to
reduce
risk
and
limit
spread
in
our
college
population
and,
of
course,
we
can't
rule
out
the
weather.
AU
AT
A
G
AU
C
AU
AU
AU
Two
weeks
ago,
I
I
presented
all
the
findings
and
recommendations
tonight
we
thought
it
would
be
better
if
you
really
heard
from
all
the
subject
matter.
Experts
on
the
team,
so
so
I'll
just
give
a
brief
introduction
and
then
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
to
some
of
the
team
members
as
well.
Obviously,
this
is
this
is
still
the
same.
AU
AU
So
for
our
recommendation
that
we
talked
about
last
time
of
using
the
ballroom
we've
added
an
option
for
a
one-time
cost
to
purchase
the
equipment
needed
to
conduct
away
meetings.
So
that's
included
and
wes
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
at
the
end,
but
we
also
took
we
also
heard
an
interest
in
meeting
council
chambers
as
well.
AU
W
AU
Director
sorry,
safety,
director
and
he's
going
to
re
review
the
draft
layouts
for
each
facility
and
cover
safety
considerations,
and
then
I
think
after
rick
we're
going
to
hear
from
jan
park,
who
I
think
everyone
knows
our
wellness
coordinator,
who's,
also
a
registered
nurse
and
we're
also
going
to
hear
from
wes
rottery
our
cio
and
he
can
dive
into
more
details
about
the
technology
as
they
come
up.
So
rick,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
you.
AV
All
right,
thank
you,
tracy
good
evening,
mayor
and
council
members.
After
last
week's
meeting
or
last
time
we
met,
we
wanted
to
provide
you
with
some
visuals.
I
would
think
this
is
going
to
help
you
quite
a
bit.
Of
course,
we
want
to
see
how
it's
going
to
look
like
for
council
to
meet
in
person.
Again,
of
course,
we
want
to
give
you
as
much
information
as
we
can
for
you
make
a
decision
on
when
you
do
want
to
complete
in-person
meetings.
AV
Our
goal
is
to
keep
everyone
off
our
staff
exposure
spreadsheet
for
kobit
19..
We
do
that
by
preventing
close
contacts
and
making
sure
everybody's
wearing
masks
the
two
options
that
we
have
it's
going
to
be
the
first
one
is
council
chambers,
and
then
the
second
one
is
using
ballrooms
one
and
two
in
the
gillyard
center.
AV
Both
of
these
options
do
comply
with
cdc
dhec
in
our
emergency
ordinance
for
face
coverings
and
masks.
So
the
first
one
that
we
have
is
our
current
console
chambers,
the
the
pink
circles
with
the
blue
squares,
there's
12
of
them
for
each
council
member.
I
was
over
there
again
this
morning.
We're
gonna
have
to
move
some
of
these
circles
just
a
little
bit,
but
this
gives
you
an
idea
of
what
we're
looking
at
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
everybody's
separated
by
six
feet.
AV
AV
Of
course
we
need
some.
It
support
the
videographer
and
a
public
microphone
and
then
over
on
the
right
side.
We
have.
We
have
four
pink
circles.
This
can
be
used
for
city
staff
or
any
anybody
else
that
we
need
in
there.
If
we
don't
have
work
stations,
I
think
we
can
get
six
chairs
in
there
and
make
sure
everybody's
still
six
feet
apart,
not
taking
into
consideration
the
public,
obviously
we're
going
to
have
to
stage
them
in
the
hallway.
AV
We
can
have
one
stairway
designated
for
the
entryway,
the
other
one,
for
the
exit
temperatures
taken
before
they
enter
the
building
and
then
based
upon
demand,
we'll
just
have
to
move
people
through
there.
I
know
it's
not
the
the
perfect
setup,
but
that's
what
we're
looking
for
to
make
the
the
council
chambers
work.
AV
And
here's
the
gill
yard
there's
actually
three
ballrooms
we've
been
given
the
use
of
the
grand
one
and
the
grand
two
with
all
the
the
purple
dots
in
it.
Grand
one
will
be
setting
up
for
our
employees
for
you,
the
council,
members
for
the
mayor
for
the
clerk
and
the
two
microphones,
and
then,
if
we
need
employee
seating,
we
can
keep
them
in
there.
It's
a
very
large
area,
the
the
partition
of
the
doorway
between
ballrooms,
one
and
two
will
be
open.
AV
So
it's
going
to
be
a
large
space
combining
the
two
ballrooms
and
I
think,
there's
I
didn't
count
them
yet.
I
think
there's
42
pink,
pink
circles
there.
If
we
need
to,
I
think
we
can
increase
that
to
50
based
upon
the
entry
in
the
exit,
but
I'm
comfortable
doing
the
42
is
the
first
time
running.
If
we're
able
to
add
more,
if
we
need
more,
we
can
certainly
do
that.
AU
AV
What
you
can't
see
on
here
are
there
salons
there's
it's
the
opening
between
the
hallway
and
the
ballroom,
we're
able
to
to
use
stanchions
to
create
an
entryway
and
an
exit
point
and
then,
of
course,
temperatures
would
be
taken
outside
as
well
before
everybody
comes
in.
I
know
jan's
going
to
talk
about
some
other
criteria
that
we
could
do.
AV
AV
All
right
janet,
I
think
we're
going
to
kick
it
off
to
you
just
to
talk
about
some
of
the
requirements,
but
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
is
aware
that
it's
going
to
help
in
your
decision.
We
have
the
gill
yard
available
through
the
remaining
of
2020..
We
have
not
talked
about
management
at
the
gill
yard,
letting
us
get
in
there
for
any
of
the
2021..
AW
Good
evening
everybody
hi
mayor,
thank
you
rick.
He
pretty
much
covered
everything
with
a
really
thorough
summary
there,
just
to
clarify
some
of
the
confusion
that
I
run
into
sometimes
with
our
own
employees
and
stuff
is
that
masks
are
still
required,
even
if
you're
six
feet
apart
and
even
if
you
were
to
have
plexiglass
so
masks
are
still
going
to
be
required.
So
one
of
the
challenges
is:
how
long
do
you
want
to
tolerate
having
a
mask
on
for
really
long
meetings?
AW
AW
You
know
we
look.
If
someone
is
positive
on
our
employee
staff,
we
have
to
recommend
quarantining
for
14
days
and
testing
for
anyone,
who's,
close
contacts
and
those
close
contacts
are
defined
as
being
within
six
feet
for
15
minutes
or
more.
It
used
to
be
a
continuous
15
minutes,
but
now
it's
actually
a
cumulative
15
minutes,
so
just
be
very
mindful
of
any
of
the
time
mingling
together
and
talking
before
a
meeting
after
a
meeting.
If
it's
10
minutes
before
10
minutes
after
and
then.
C
AW
Time
during,
if
you're
less
than
six
feet,
all
of
those
minutes
would
add
up
to
more
than
15
minutes,
so
really
keeping
that
six
foot
distance
is
so
vital
in
your
protection
and
in
your
risk
reduction
and
that's
where
that's,
whether
or
not
you
have
a
mask
on
or
not.
So
even
if
you
have
a
mask
on
that
six
feet
you
know
is
really
is
really
vital.
So
just
because
you
know
if
we
contract,
we
contact
trace
someone
and
they
say.
AW
AW
So
it's
it
can
be
a
little
rough
when,
when
we
have
to
contact
trace
so
again,
that
distance
is
going
to
be
the
distance
and
the
mask
wearing
both
and
are
going
to
be
your
two
number
one
protection,
because
we
really
can't
lessen
the
time
I
mean
your
meetings
obviously
are
way
more
than
15
minutes.
So
we're
not
going
to
be
able
to
control,
you
know
keeping
meetings
short.
We
can
certainly
do
check-ins
with
the
public
for
temperature
checks
and
a
covered
questionnaire.
AW
That
is
something
the
cdc
has
out
that
we
can
use
to
ask
the
public
and
we'll
have
certainly
additional
staff
there
to
help
with
traffic
control.
We'll
have
more
room
in
the
gill
yard,
for
public
staging
to
be
able
to
separate
them
out.
Obviously,
you'll
have
a
little
bit
more
elbow
room
in
the
gill
yard
and
be
able
to
have
more
public
in
that
area.
AD
Thank
you,
mayor
council
members.
Just
give
you
a
quick
idea.
What
we're
looking
at
if
we
meet
in
council
chambers
this
business
as
usual
from
the
I.t
side,
we
don't
have
to
do
anything,
add
anything
we
would
set
up
as
usual.
So
that
would
be
no
problem
for
us
there.
If
we
move
into
a
different
venue,
then
we
have
to
provide
a
setup
that
can
provide
the
audio.
We
need
to
provide
a
quality,
video
recording
as
well
as
the
live
streaming.
We
do
and
also
provides
you
with
the
sound.
AD
You
would
need
to
hear
one
another
within
the
size
of
that
room
and
for
the
citizens
to
hear
so.
We
have
an
outside
vendor
that
we've
worked
with
in
the
past
for
meetings.
That's
local
they've
put
together
a
proposal
that
gives
us
the
components
we
need
some
limited
labor
for
set
up
and
take
down
with
it,
supplementing
that
to
keep
the
cost
down.
AD
So
that's
what
that
initial
section
there
provides
at
the
3,
000
plus
dollars
per
meeting
to
do
that
at
the
gillyard
center
or
another
venue.
We
are
looking
at
purchasing
our
own
mobile
package
at
some
point
going
forward.
This
would
help
with
our
quarterly
off-site
meetings,
as
well
as
other
city
meetings
that
may
pop
up
in
different
venues.
AD
But
if
we
pulled
the
trigger
on
that
tomorrow,
it
would
still
be
january
before
we
could
probably
get
that
order,
get
it
in
from
the
vendor
set
up
tested
training.
All
of
that
so
don't
know
that
we'd
be
able
to
do
that
in
time
for
anything
for
the
remainder
of
this
year.
But
again
that
is
something
we're
looking
at
going
forward.
So
that's
what
we
have
at
this
point
for
the
technology
side,
great.
H
AD
Yes,
sir,
all
this
is
built
around
in-person
attendance
or
participation
from
citizens
to
try
to
do
also
the
zoom
or
remote
access
would
be
a
bit
problematic
and
create
some
challenges
in
how
you
handle
the
moderation
of
that
the
audio
for
it
or
even
any
video.
If
you
were
going
to
try
to
do
that,
so
that
would
certainly
add
some
layers
of
complexity.
We'd
have
to
figure
out.
H
And
the
other
question
may
I
have
would
be
in
order
to
provide
for
citizen
input
either
at
city,
council
chambers
or
at
the
gill
yard.
We
would
then
have
to
have
some
kind
of
isolating
system.
I
guess
a
lack
of
a
better
word
for
folks
to
be
able
to
usher
the
public
in
and
out
those
who
wanted
to
participate
in
person,
and
I
would
like
to
know
maybe
from
somebody
as
to
what
that
personnel
number
would
be
and
who
would
be
that
person
now.
H
H
A
Some
not
it
was
not
a
close
election
y'all.
It
was
in
fact
unanimous
that
under
current
conditions
of
of
coba
19
rising
in
our
country,
we're
not
you
know
at
a
place
yet
where
we
have
a
vaccine
and
all
like
that.
Our
staff
unanimously
would
prefer
that
we
not
meet
in
person.
Yet
at
this
time,
councilmember
gregory.
R
AD
Councilman
gregory
in
the
past,
we
really
haven't
tried
to
facilitate
that
that
much
we've
relied
on
resources
at
those
locations.
Clerk's
office
has
brought
in
that
little
individual
microphone
set
up.
They
had
kind
of
the
mr
microphone
deal
and
sometimes
there's
been
audio
at
those
sites.
So
we're
trying
to
put
something
in
with
all
the
spacing
that
everybody
has
a
microphone.
It
ties
back
into
the
amplifier.
We
can
audio
video
record
it,
which
we
don't
normally
do
in
the
off-site
locations
as
well
as
live
stream.
AD
AD
D
Yeah,
I
just
had
a
a
quick
question:
had
we
explored
the
possibility
of
using
one
of
the
charleston
county
school
district
sites
like
a
high
school
gym
or
something
to
that
effect?
That
would
be
a
large
enough
space
and
it
would
only
be
a
relatively
nominal
fee.
I
would
assume
to
rent
that
space
in
the
time
being,
instead
of
making
a
major
outlay
on
just
the
rental.
M
A
A
I
I
think
it's
the
prudent
thing
to
do
from
a
health
point
of
view
and
I
think,
given
the
numbers
that
are
rising
and
the
reaction
from
our
staff,
I
would
like
to
respect
their
comments
as
well,
so
respectfully.
If,
if,
if
we
were
in
the
same
vote,
we
had
last
time
where
I
know
some
of
y'all
already
meet
in
person
and
some
weren't
we,
it
was
pretty
even
and
if
I
were
to
cast
the
the
tie,
breaker
vote.
It
would
be
to
wait.
M
M
Maybe
we
should
ask
them
because
obviously
they're
way
ahead
of
us
in
how
we
handle
this
situation.
My
other
question
is:
how
are
we
having
ribbon
cuttings
all
the
time
if
our
staff
is
so
worried
about
coming
to
a
city
council
meeting,
we're
having
ribbon
cuttings
and
all
kinds
of
other
events,
all
the
time
I
don't
understand,
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
It
seems
like
a
double
standard.
M
A
Sir,
I
would
tell
you
about
other
folks:
I
can't
speak
for
them.
I
can
only
speak
for
us
and
we
at
the
city
of
charleston
have
tried
to
maintain
the
the
best
safety
protocol
following
cdc
guidelines,
and
that's
why
we've
had
this
phased
approach.
I
think
it's
been
very
effective.
You
saw
the
number
of
employees
that
we
have
the
low
number
that
have
coveted
19
and
we've
been
able
to
keep
our
workforce
working.
A
It's
a
little
different
environment
when
you
have
an
occasional,
a
few
minute
ex
gathering,
where
you
keep
distance
as
opposed
to
having
a
meeting
that
sometimes,
as
you
know,
can
last
four
or
five
and
six
hours
when
we
know
that
a
15-minute
exposure
makes
a
difference
in
the
spread
of
the
disease.
So
I
I
would
respectfully
say
that
those
things
make
a
difference.
A
M
A
B
Mr
mayor,
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt,
but
I
actually
did
contact
the
municipal
association
on
friday
just
to
see
if
they
could
give
me
some
information
about
other
cities
that
might
be
meeting
virtually
in
the
state
and
as
of
the
information
that
I
received
friday.
Yes,
some
of
our
local
municipalities
are
meeting
in
person
such
as
north
charleston
and
mount
pleasant,
but
there
are
some
other
cities
within
the
state.
Some
of
the
big
cities
like
columbia,
greenville,
hilton
head
and
florence.
B
They
are
still
having
their
meetings
virtually
and
so
what
he
emailed
me
said
it
was
sort
of
a
mixed
bag.
You
know
some
cities
prefer
to
meet
in
person,
but
some
prefer
to
meet
virtually
it's
really
just
up
to
the
individual
city,
but
as
of
friday,
those
cities,
columbia,
greenville,
hilton,
head
and
florence
are
still
meeting
virtually
now
whether
they'll
continue
to
do
so.
B
I
don't
know,
and
those
aren't
all
of
the
cities
that
I
mean
those
are
just
he
just
kind
of
gave
me
a
snapshot
of
some
of
the
big
cities
that
are
meeting
virtually,
so
there
may
be
others
as
well.
So
I
just
I
wanted
to
put
that
out
there.
That's,
you
know,
might
be
something
else
for
council
to
consider.
I
just
wanted
them
to
know
we're
we're
not
the
only
ones
meeting
virtually.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mother
clark.
So
if
I
may
call
on
susan
herdina
to
share
with
us
the
items
that
we
do
need
to,
are
we
asking
you
to
take
action
on
tonight.
The
first
is
just
an
extension
of
the
declaration
of
emergency
governor
mcmaster
sent
out
an
executive
order
yesterday,
extending
that
for
the
state
of
south
carolina,
as
he's
done
every
15
days
for
the
last
six
months
or
so,
and
then
we'll
also
take
up.
The
emergency
coordinates
about
meeting
virtually
and
and
council
can
vote
as
they
please.
Susan.
AL
AL
If
council
approves
this,
the
local
state
of
emergency,
the
declaration
of
a
local
state
of
emergency
would
continue
until
november
30th,
unless
council
took
some
action
prior
to
that
time,
that's
i5
I-6
is
an
emergency
order.
Ordnix
excuse
me
extending
several
of
the
emergency
ordinances
that
you
all
have
passed
previously.
A
A
I
I
would
maybe,
when
we
consider
our
budget
take
up
the
matter
of
whether
council
would
like
to
invest
in
this
equipment
that
would
allow
us
to
to
meet
virtually
at
the
gill
yard,
which,
if,
when
we
start,
I
do
think
that
would
be
the
safest
place
for
us
to
meet
and
be
able
to
have
have
guests
available
and
the
the
thing
about
that
is.
You
know
when
we
get
back
to
normal
and
we're
meeting
in
person
around
the
city
and
other
locations
as
we
would
do
quarterly
it
would.
A
It
would
give
us
the
equipment
we
kind
of
need
to
to
really
have
a
a
better,
a
better
meeting.
You
know
it.
It
has
been
kind
of
awkward
passing
the
microphone
around
and
all
like
that.
So
let's
take
that
up
in
our
budget
deliberations
and
if
you
all
want
to
purchase
that
equipment,
then
that
would
help
facilitate
where
we
go
from
here.
Okay,
next
is
our
council
communications.
We
got
a
discussion
on
amplification
of
speaking
during
carriage
tour
rides
by
the
tour
guide
council
member
griffin.
A
D
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
just
state
for
the
record
with
what
we've
talked
about
before
and
the
businesses
on
king
street
struggling.
I
I
just
really
struggle
to
vote
in
favor
of
something
that
is
going
to
limit.
You
know
the
foot
traffic
into
a
store
and
the
sampling
is
often
part
of
the
business
model
for
some
of
these
businesses,
and
I
I
agree,
we
need
to
tackle
some
of
the
aggressiveness
and
I
would
I
would
hope
that
the
central
business
district
improvement
commission
could
come
up
with
a
recommendation
on
that.
D
R
AT
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Certainly
you
know,
I
understand
the
aggressiveness
that's
going
on,
particularly
with
the
cosmetic
and
the
soaps
and
things
like
that,
and
and
it's
something
we
don't
want
in
our
city.
We,
we
don't
want
people
being
harassed
and
brought
in,
and
you
know
just
put
on
the
spot
and
and
basically
have
things
shoved
down
their
throat
to
try
to
be
pressured
to
be
to
buy
stuff,
and
we
certainly
want
that
stuff.
AT
You
know
vote
again,
maybe
whatever
I
just
have
a
hard
time.
Voting
for
anything,
that's
going
to
limit
anybody's
ability
to
market
to
businesses
downtown,
and
so
I
can't
support
it
because,
like
we're
limiting
a
certain
group
of
people,
a
lot
of
people
but
a
certain
group
of
people
in
a
specific
area
of
our
town-
and
I
just
don't
think
that's
the
right
answer-
I
think
that
we
can
come
up
with
something
better.
I
and
I
know
we've
worked
on
that.
AT
F
AL
AX
F
Correct
in
between
this
first
reading
and
second
reading,
are
we
gonna
reach
out
to
these
aggressive
actors
and
and
basically
tell
them
if
they
don't
change,
there's
gonna
be
basically
an
audience
that
comes
down
that
prevents
this.
Are
we
just
gonna
kind
of
run
this
through
and
without
communications
at
all?
Obviously
something
has
to
be
done.
I
understand
that
one
of
the
persons
that
called
in
I
thought
was
on
the
committee
of
sub
central
business
district.
F
F
But
anyway,
so
I
still
think
we
ought
to
reach
out
and
obviously
try
to
communicate.
This
is
no
more
different
than
the
bad
actor.
When
we
tried
to
open
back
up
with
the
brewery
and
they
said
they
were
going
to
comply
and
they
didn't
comply.
Eventually,
we
had
to
go
move
forward
with
the
audience,
but
I
do
believe
between
the
two
between
the
first
reading
and
the
second
reading.
Hopefully
it
gives
a
chance
to
reach
out
and
there's
no
solution
on
that.
Then
I
think
we
move
forward,
but
we'll
at
least
try.
F
A
AI
Well,
thank
you,
councilmember,
saccharine
and
mayor.
You
challenged
you
put
out
a
challenge
for
a
another
solution
to
get
the
same
result
which
I
think
we
all
share
and,
let's
be
very
clear.
You
know
I
work
on
king
street.
I
walk
by
one
of
these
stores
every
single
day.
Aggressive
sales
tactics
are
integrally
connected
to
what
these
people
do.
This
is
not
a
communications
issue.
This
is
a
fundamental
type
of
use
that
the
city
has
decided
and
determined
is
a
is
a
frankly
a
nuisance.
AI
AI
That's
how
we
do
it.
Here's
how
we
do
it.
We
just
describe
a
use
type
that
fits
this
category.
That
doesn't
include
other
types
of
cosmetic
sales,
and
you
know
things
of
that
nature.
We
put
it
in
our
zoning
code
and
we
say
the
use
is
not
allowed
on
king
street.
This
is
what
we
do
with
sex
shops.
This
is
what
we
do
with
strip
clubs.
This
is
what
we
do
with
nuclear
power
plants.
This
is,
I
mean
the
whole.
AI
You
know
what
this
is.
What
zoning
does
we
decide
what
uses
we
want
where
based
upon
community
standards,
norms,
etc?
This
this
this
way,
we
don't
have
to
cast
this
wide
net
around
samples,
so
we
have
to
potentially
you
know,
mix
up
my
former
employer,
hyman
seafood.
We
don't
want
to
stop
hymen
seafood
from
giving
people
hush
puppies
on
the
street.
AI
That
was
my
job
at
one
point
that
was,
that
was
maybe
the
best
job
I've
ever
had,
but
I
know
that
jacob
and
these
folks
in
our
planning
department
have
looked
at
this.
I
think
that
there's
been
some
concern
that
perhaps
we
can't
come
up
with
a
zoning
definition
that
is
precise
enough
to
capture
this
type
of
use.
AI
I
would
like
to
make
a
challenge
to
our
staff
and
our
legal
department.
We've
put
a
man
on
the
moon.
We
have
done
some
incredible
things
in
this
world.
I
am
absolutely
convinced
that
we
can
come
up
with
a
zoning
use
category
that
can
get
at
this
issue.
They
can
get
at
these
types
of
sales
techniques.
From
a
use
standpoint
prohibit
it
make
all
the
current
operations.
AI
Non-Conforming
uses
have
some
sort
of
measure
in
that
zoning
ordinance
that
allows
people
to
phase
this
stuff
out
under
a
fair
constitutional
amateurization
provision,
and
we
handle
this
just
like
every
other
land
use
or
use
issue
that
that
challenges
us
challenges
us
as
a
city.
This
is
this
is
very
achievable
and
we
can
go
in
with
a
scalpel
rather
than
casting
such
a
wide
net
and
even
the
sampling
ordinance.
I
mean
there's
laws
on
the
books
already
about
these
aggressive
sales
techniques.
AI
There's
an
enforcement
problem,
because
you
know
for
all
the
reasons
we
can
imagine
about
catching
people
in
the
act
and
doing
this
and
doing
that.
Zoning
is
something
that's
checked
off
at
the
business
license
approval
stage
right.
This
is
our
the
easiest
way
we
can
catch
and
nip
these
types
of
uses
in
the
bud
when
they
come
to
get
a
business
license
and
we
can
phase
out
the
ones
that
are
already
in
operation.
So
that's
my
approach,
I
feel
confident
we
can.
AI
AI
These
folks
have
been
communicated,
there's
been
outreach,
they
understand,
they
know
exactly
what
they're
doing
and
it's
not
acceptable
on
king
street
and
it's
it's
the
other
merchants
on
king
street
that
they're,
the
ones
that
are
the
most
impacted
by
this
people,
will
cross
the
road
and
avoid
walking
by
in
order
to
avoid
this
type
of
stuff.
So
I
think
we
can
solve
the
problem
through
zoning.
Let's
roll
up
our
sleeves
and
sharpen
our
pencils
and
do
it.
A
H
Very
briefly,
man,
I
think
councilman
rappel
just
mentioned
the
important
part
of
all
this.
It
has
a
negative
impact
on
other
merchants
and
other
businesses.
I've
heard
so
many
complaints
about
folks
saying
that
they
feel
that
they're
being
impacted
negatively
by
that-
and
this
mr
appel
just
mentioned
folks
cross
the
other
side
of
the
street
and
ignore
adjoining
businesses
because
of
this
behavior.
So
let's
give
a
first
reading,
let's
follow
through
on
council
member
waring
and
councilmember
apparel's
challenges,
and
let's
keep
the
momentum
going
on
on
having
this
approved.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
I'll,
be
very
brief,
because
councilmember
shane
and
councilmember
pelt
touched
on
it.
This
really
is
actually
a
pro-business
move
that
we're
making
because
we're
not
trying
to
stop
one
thing:
we're
trying
to
help
other
businesses
and
people
literally
avoid
entire
stretches
of
king
street.
Because
of
these
tactics,
and
that
is
not
good
for
business.
G
We
saw
the
graph
you
saw
earlier
tonight
about
the
foot
traffic
on
king
street
and
getting
foot
traffic
back
on
that
street
is
the
lifeblood
of
the
city
and
of
king
street,
and
so
the
the
tactic
that
is
employed
by
certain
merchants
on
king
street
is
bad
for
business
on
king
street.
So
we
have
to
look
at
this
and
council
member
pal.
G
I
applaud
you
for
thinking
sort
of
in
the
big
picture
that
there's
a
solution,
but
you
know
the
tactic:
that's
employed
for
selling
whatever
it
is
that
the
people
that
I
know
a
lot
of
people,
including
me,
try
to
avoid
when
I'm
walking
down
king
street
can
be
employed
in
selling
just
about
anything.
So
we
just
have
to
think
about
as
we
go
through
and
think
about.
Zoning
on
king
street
that
that
we
are
really
right
now
talking
about
a
certain
tactical
behavior
in
sales
that
is
churning
people
away
from
other
businesses.
M
Yes,
sir,
I'm
going
to
vote
no
tonight,
but
I
will
vote
yes
next
time.
If
we
can
change
a
couple
of
things,
number
one
an
exception
for
food
number
two,
and
I
don't
know
how
you
get
an
exception
for
food
in
there,
but
I'd
love
to
see
what
we
can
do
legally
on
that
and
number
two.
We
were
told
in
our
meeting
yesterday
that
people
that
are
actually
selling
for
a
price
are
allowed
to
continue
to
do
that
outside.
M
So
we're
talking
about
free
samples
here,
so
what's
really
going
to
change
by
limiting
free
samples,
I
can
tell
you
what
I
would
do
if
I
was
a
business
person,
I
would
just
charge
somebody
a
dollar
I
would.
I
would
market
it
for
a
dollar
and
still
be
out
on
the
street
corner.
So
there's
a
lot
of
issues
with
this.
M
I
think
it's
really
vague
and
I
would
like
for
us
to
either
strengthen
it
so
that
people
can't
just
charge
a
minimal
amount
of
money
and
do
the
same
thing,
and
obviously
I
think
that
our
food,
I
would
be
remiss
not
to
mention
all
of
the
candy
shops
that
that
have
pralines
and
and
convince
people
to
come
in
and
buy
pralines.
I
mean
that
would
just
be
a
total
uncharleston
thing
to
do
to
take
them
off
of
the
streets.
M
J
AX
There
there's
no
rational
basis
for
that
distinction
because
they
both
caused
the
same
issue,
which
is
the
crowding
of
the
streets,
the
stopping
of
pedestrians
and
causing
people
to
walk
out
into
the
pub
out
into
the
lane
of
travel
to
continue
moving
down
the
street.
And
so,
for
those
reasons
you
have
to
treat
the
businesses
alike.
J
J
AX
Well,
this
would
be
a
new
code
section
in
the
code
under
the
licensing
under
chapter
17
licensing,
and
so
we
can
go
back
and
add
some,
whereas
clauses
you
know
I
did
not
include
those
in
this
draft,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
you
know.
This
came
to
us
at
the
request
of
neighborhood
services
in
the
central
business
district
committee.
Commission
excuse
me,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
go
back
and
add
those
before
the
second
read.
Second
and
third
reading.
A
A
C
A
F
A
F
Ashley
hall,
road
and
captiva,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
our
staff
and
samia.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
additional
information
you
dug
up
with
staff's
assistance.
It
was
a
hearty
discussion.
We
have
great
resources
brought
forth
from
our
staff
and
it
turns
out
that
it
was
actually.
This
question
was
actually
in
the
county.
Not
it's
right
on
the
border
line
which
made
it
confusing
for
all.
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
teachable
moment
for
the
city
and
the
county
when
it
comes
to
situations
like
this
going
forward.
F
F
Belter
and
the
closing
of
public
rules,
our
legal
staff
is
going
to
dig
into
that
and
look
at
that
city-wide
and
report
back
to
our
public
works
committee
in
two
weeks,
so
that
was
pretty
much
a
good
discussion,
but
we're
looking
forward
to
staff
research
and
reporting
back
with
that.
That
was
the
gist
of
the
meeting.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
F
That
said
again,
our
legal
department
has
really
been
burning.
The
candles
on
both
ends.
I
I
am
our
finance
department
with
triple
a
ratings.
Our
legal
departments
were
rating
we'd,
be
getting
triple
a's
on
them
too,
but
beyond
that
a
good,
hearty
discussion,
but
no
actionable
items
on
our
part.
Mr
me,
if
you
want
to
add
to
that.
A
A
This
wireless
infrastructure
and
the
state
of
south
carolina
has
really
done
a
similar
thing,
so
it's
it's
mostly
out
of
our
hands
and-
and-
and
I
just
want
our
citizens
to
understand
that,
if,
if,
if
they
really
want
to
advocate
change
on
this
matter,
they've
got
to
deal
with
our
federal
representatives.
First,
that's
where
most
of
this
is
coming
down
from,
and
we've
been
subjected
to
lawsuits
in
federal
court
that
have
continued
to
tie
our
hands.