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City of Charleston Council Meeting - September 10, 2019
B
As
we've
all
come
off
a
rather
trying
week,
some
more
trying
than
others
with
the
hurricane
and
all
want
to
keep
that
in
mind,
the
blessings
that
were
passed
over
onto
us
and
the
Lord.
We
thank
you
for
the
many
blessings
you've
now,
both
sowed
upon
the
city
of
Charles,
most
recently
saving
us
from
a
tremendous
amount
of
potential
damage
from
this
hurricane.
B
We
would
thank
you
for
the
city
of
Charleston.
Protecting
us
from
the
devastation
we've
seen
over
in
the
islands,
pray
that
you
will
bless
this
party
as
we
deliberate
the
issues
that
concern
all
the
citizenry
of
this
city.
We
ask
you
to
bless
and
protect
our
military
and
those
that
are
in
harm's
way
as
they
protect
us
for
it,
as
if,
as
a
nation,
give
us
the
strength
and
wisdom
to
do
your
will.
As
we
deliberate
the
items
before
us.
A
And
I
think
most
of
y'all
have
been
here
before,
but
just
in
case
I
know,
I
might
sound
repetitive
to
folks
that
come
often,
but
in
the
event
we
would
need
to
evacuate
the
building.
These
are
our
two
exits
out
of
this
main
room
and
there
is
an
exit
to
room
on
from
the
room
on
my
right.
In
that
event,
do
not
use
the
elevator
but
go
down
the
two
stairs
to
the
first
floor
and
then
the
single
stairs
out
the
front.
A
So
that's
a
very
unlikely
event,
but
just
in
case
it
wanted
everybody
to
be
aware.
First
I'd
like
to
call
to
make
a
proclamation
regarding
Literacy
Month
if
miss
Eileen,
Chi,
Peck
Nick
and
the
she's,
the
executive
director
I,
think
y'all
know
of
the
Trident
literacy
Association
and
is
dr.
Christian
Warrington
Broxton
with
you.
Please
come
forward
she's
a
site
manager
of
there.
Are
you
at
Shaw
or
you're
at
Saint,
Julian
Devine.
A
At
Shaw
y'all
please
come
forward.
The
importance
of
literacy
in
our
community
cannot
be
overstated
and
through
the
programs
that
they
administer
self-paced
programs
study
groups,
one
on
one
tutoring.
The
literacy,
Trident
literacy
association
is
doing
truly
remarkable
work
to
help
members
of
our
community
overcome
literacy
challenges,
so
in
honor
of
Literacy
Month
I'd
like
to
recognize
them
and
I
have
a
proclamation.
A
So,
where
is
the
need
for
a
highly
literate
citizens?
Citizenry
increases
as
our
community
moves
towards
an
increasingly
technological
future
and
approximately
15
percent
of
adults
in
the
city
of
Charleston
do
experience
literacy
issues,
whereas
Trident
literacy
Association
provides
individualized
instruction
to
adults
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
in
partnership
with
the
st.
Julian
Devine
Community
Center
to
help
improve
skills,
earn
their
GED
and
win.
A
Career-Ready
certificates
enter
continuing
education,
take
advantage
of
apprenticeship
programs
enter
higher
education,
the
military
or
the
job
market,
and
whereas
Trident
literacy
has
served
our
community
and
helped
our
citizens
transform
their
lives
for
47
years,
47
years
old,
whereas
the
city
of
Charleston
deems
it
important
to
recognize
and
highlight
economic
and
societal
importance
of
literacy.
I
urge
my
fellow
citizens
to
learn
more
about
the
importance
of
literacy
and
become
involved
with
literacy
in
our
community.
E
Thank
you
very
much
mr.
mayor
and
members
of
council
and
everyone
here.
As
you
heard,
Trident
literacy
is
47
years
old
and
tonight
makes
15
years
that
I've
been
coming
here
for
this
Proclamation
and
it's
my
goal
to
go
out
of
business.
No,
we
might
anyway,
but
seriously
so
that
we
solve
all
the
literacy
problems
and
we
just
are
not
needed
anymore.
E
So
thank
you
for
the
proclamation
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
bring
attention
to
the
issue
of
adult
literacy.
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
tonight
some
of
the
hopes
and
emotions.
Our
students
recently
expressed
at
our
achievement
ceremony
that
we
just
had
this
past
August.
These
are
students
whose
life
trajectories
have
completely
changed
because
of
Trident
literacy.
So
here
are
some
of
the
things
they
wrote.
I
realized
my
children
need
me
for
education
and
to
be
an
educated
provider.
E
It's
the
biggest
accomplishment
I
want
to
achieve
so
I
can
start
college,
so
I
can
have
a
great
career
and
a
future
for
myself
and
my
children
I
have
a
baby
on
the
way
and
I
want
a
better
life
for
both
of
us.
I
want
to
be
a
productive
member
of
society.
I
move
to
a
new
country
with
the
new
language,
just
to
see
my
family
again
and
start
a
new
life.
Our
students
come
from
a
variety
of
backgrounds.
E
Some
did
not
gain
the
school
readiness
skills
as
children,
because
their
parents
had
low
literacy
skills,
so
they
started
school
behind
their
peers
and
they
never
caught
up.
Some
simply
made
bad
choices
and
need
a
second
chance,
some
faced
dullness
bullying
or
abandonment,
and
they
all
face
multiple
barriers,
such
as
transportation,
homelessness,
lack
of
childcare,
no
job
skills
and
a
host
of
others.
Most
live
in
poverty,
but
all
of
them
are
on
their
way
to
a
better
life
for
themselves,
in
their
faith
and
they're
willing
to
work
very
hard
to
achieve
their
goals.
E
We're
so
grateful
to
the
city
of
Charleston
for
the
partnership
at
st.
Julien
divine
community
center,
which
is
being
renovated
so
we're
temporarily
at
the
Shaw
Community
Center,
and
we
really
like
it
there.
One
of
our
students.
There
is
Al
he's
a
military
veteran
with
schizophrenia
and
recently
diagnosed
dyslexia,
his
whole
life.
E
He
had
trouble
reading
now
under
the
excellent
care
of
Kristen,
our
site
manager
and
caring,
volunteer,
tutors
he's
making
great
progress
and
he
spent
the
summer
reading
many
books
to
other
students
at
the
center
are
turning
their
lives
around
after
some
dust-ups
with
the
law.
One
is
twenty,
and
one
is
17.
They
have
set
education
and
career
goals,
one
plans,
a
career
in
the
military
and
the
other,
an
IT
and
they're
working
hard
to
achieve
them.
E
One
student
from
last
year,
Kim
after
much
difficulty
and
five
years
of
struggling
and
working
hard,
finally
earned
her
GED
and
now
she's
enrolled
in
Trident
tech,
and
she
has
a
full-time
job,
an
Antonio
from
Italy
improved
his
English
speaking
skills,
earned
a
career-ready
certificate
and
got
a
full-time
job
as
a
manager
and
a
construction
company.
This
is
how
we
help
turn
our
students
lives
around
through
our
individualized
holistic
approach,
meeting
the
needs
of
each
one
and
helping
them
navigate
all
the
bumps
in
the
road.
E
A
So
nice
to
have
this
program
available
on
the
east
side
of
Charleston,
we're
very
thankful
to
you
all.
You
do
so
without
objection
of
council.
This
won't
require
any
action,
but
I
would
like
to
I
was
going
to
do
this
during
petitions
and
communications,
but
without
objection,
I
would
like
to
ask
our
director
of
emergency
services
in
Shannon
SCAF
to
come
forward
and
just
give
us
a
quick
brief
update,
not
just
on
the
hurricane
that
just
passed,
but
our
recovery
efforts
that
are
now
on
their
way.
F
Good
evening,
mr.
mayor
and
members
of
City
Council,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
before
I
get
into
my
comments
regarding
our
own
city's
efforts,
leading
up
to
and
after
the
passage
of
Hurricane
durian
I
want
to
first
recognize
the
people
of
the
Bahamas
who
endured
and
continued
to
struggle
with
the
direct
impacts
of
this
unimaginable
disaster.
I
know
I
speak
for
every
person
on
our
team
when
I
say
our
thoughts
and
our
prayers
remain
with
those
who
bore
the
full
brunt
of
durian.
F
It
would
be
impossible
for
me
to
capture
the
full
spectrum
of
coordination
at
every
level
in
this
city
and
do
it
the
justice
it
deserves.
As
together,
we
faced
the
real
threat
of
a
major
hurricane
last
week
or
the
appreciation
that
I
have
for
your
leadership
and
the
dedication
of
our
intent,
entire
team
in
this
city.
F
What
it
will
say
is
that
I'm
honored
for
the
opportunity
to
represent
the
tireless
efforts
of
an
incredible
city
staff
that
put
the
service
to
this
community
above
self,
on
August
24th,
the
tropical
wave
developed
and
was
labeled
tropical
depression.
Five
as
the
system
traveled,
the
West,
it
defied
numerous
elements
working
against
it
and
on
Sunday,
September
1st,
with
winds
reaching
185
miles
per
hour,
sustained
and
gusts
to
220
hurricane
durian
exploded
into
a
catastrophic
category.
F
5
hurricane
completely
devastating
the
Bahamas,
but
days
before
the
system
became
a
hurricane
together
with
the
leadership
from
our
mayor
and
city
council,
as
well
as
personnel
from
every
department
in
this
city.
Your
cities
of
Charleston
emergency
management
staff
initiated
a
sequence
to
increase
our
level
of
readiness.
F
Charleston
Fire
Department
was
able
to
reach
over
700
addresses
coordination
occurred
with
the
Housing
Authority
and
their
staff
provided
messaging
in
door-to-door
fliers
to
over
1,400
residents.
While
this
effort,
continued
public
service
managed
a
robust
sea
backing
effort
that
resulted
in
the
issuance
of
over
92,000
sandbags
to
our
community.
F
The
totality
of
all
circumstances,
including
an
uncertain
forecast
surrounding
this
dangerous
storm,
required
increased
readiness
measures.
A
city
state
of
emergency
was
established
and
on
Sunday
September
1st,
with
hurricane
durian,
still
situated
over
the
Bahamas,
the
city
of
Charleston
increased
its
operational
condition
to
OPCON
one
OPCON
one
is
defined
as
a
full
alert.
A
disaster
or
emergency
is
imminent
or
occurring.
The
Emergency,
Operations
Center
is
fully
activated
and
all
emergency
Portland
support
personnel
are
activated
or
ready
to
deploy
as
a
slow-moving,
Dory
and
eventually
made
its
way
north
and
filing
into
the
Lowcountry.
F
A
remarkable
staff
comprised
of
75
members
assembled
to
support
operations,
planning
logistics,
administration
and
finance
activities.
During
round
the
clock
operations
and
all
the
Miyake
staff
worked.
Nine
12-hour
operational
periods
for
hurricane
durian,
571
individuals
from
Charleston
sought
shelter
in
Charleston,
County
shelters.
During
this
event,
as
the
city
staff
remains
sheltered
in
place
at
various
locations
throughout
the
city,
our
operation
center
worked
to
identify
key
response
and
recovery
objectives.
F
Life
safety
was
at
the
top
of
that
objectives
list.
Every
effort
was
made
to
ensure
the
safety
of
our
citizens,
visitors
and
our
city
staff
throughout
the
duration
of
this
crisis.
An
aggressive
debris
management
effort
continues
and
safety
remains
paramount.
As
we
progress
through
the
recovery
process,
the
city
of
Charleston
experienced
the
last
of
heavy
downpours
and
tropical
storm
force
winds
on
the
evening
of
Thursday
September
5th
and
as
soon
as
it
was
safe
to
do
so,
preliminary
damage
and
primary
and
secondary
Road
assessments
began.
F
In
addition
to
these
assessments,
calls
from
our
citizens
poured
in
to
our
citizens.
Services
desk
between
September,
2nd
through
the
6th.
The
services
desk
received
1800
calls
for
assistance.
With
all
these
calls,
it
became
clear
that,
despite
being
spared
from
the
worst,
our
city
did
experience
significant
impacts
from
this
system.
F
Some
of
the
reported
and
more
notable
impacts
to
our
city
during
the
height
of
this
crisis
include
over
300
downed
trees,
181
road
closures,
mapped
135
traffic,
light
failures,
116,000
power
outages
in
both
Charleston
and
Berkley
counties,
plus
100%
of
Berkeley,
electric
co-op
customers
on
John's
Island.
To
my
knowledge,
and
perhaps
most
notable
of
these
metrics
is
that
no
significant
injuries
or
deaths
occurred
in
our
city
that
are
directly
attributed
to
Hurricane
durian.
F
Finally,
in
highlighting
the
city
of
Charleston's
recovery,
other
efforts
as
of
noon
today,
120
hours
since
the
storm
left
our
area
of
the
181
road
closures
mapped
all
one
angel
Oak,
Road
have
been
reopened
of
the
135
affected
traffic
lights.
100
have
100%,
have
been
addressed
of
the
over
300
downed
trees.
Over
100,
some
deemed
the
most
dangerous
have
been
addressed.
F
F
The
city
of
Charleston
continues
to
add
abreast
to
address
debris
management
challenges
in
daily
meetings
with
city
staff
and
our
mayor,
as
well
as
key
representatives
from
the
county
state
and
FEMA.
As
of
3
p.m.
today,
public
service
has
delivered
218
truckloads
to
Sumar
street
from
around
the
city.
There
are
roughly
5,000
cubic
yards
of
debris
at
that
site.
F
Removal
of
that
debris
commenced
at
4:00
p.m.
today,
Public
Service
estimates,
118
thousand
cubic
yards
of
debris,
with
the
only
exception
being
Daniel
Island
and
those
numbers
are
still
pending.
Public
service
has
six
crews
working
12-hour
days
to
assist
in
this
recovery
and
moving
forward.
We
will
participate
in
Charleston,
County's
debris
removal
contract.
Those
operations
will
commence
tomorrow
in
closing,
I
want
to
say
this.
During
my
26
years
of
combined
military
and
public
service
I've
seen
firsthand
some
of
the
worst
disasters
in
our
nation's
history
and
I've
been
fortunate
in
some.
F
F
The
leadership
at
multiple
levels,
the
partnerships
with
our
neighboring
municipalities,
counties
and
federal
partners
to
include
the
Coast
Guard.
The
incredible
dedication,
stamina
and
determination
that
I've
seen
from
every
representative
of
this
city
from
our
newest
or
most
junior
employees,
to
our
City
Council
in
our
mayor,
assures
me
that
we
are
indeed
a
Charleston,
strong
community
and,
as
my
honor
to
served
you
all.
A
Thank
You
Shannon,
thank
you
for
that
excellent
report
and
yes,
Shannon
and
councilmember
Wagner,
as
you
prayed
more
than
our
thoughts
and
prayers
or
with
our
brothers
and
sisters
down
in
the
Bahamas.
Yes,
we
we
dodged
a
bullet.
It
could
have
been
so
much
worse
here
in
Charleston,
already
individuals
and
organizations
here
in
Charleston,
like
water,
Missions
International
are
bringing
water
purification
systems
to
the
Bahamas.
Senators
in
who
I
believe
has
a
second
home
in
the
Bahamas
has
started
her
own
relief
effort
at
my
Rotary
Club.
Today,
donations
are
being
made.
A
There
was
article
in
the
paper,
so
I
asked
all
our
citizens
to
join
together.
I
know,
there'll,
be
many
ways
that
which
you
can
help
our
brothers
and
sisters
in
the
Bahamas,
but
boy
they
really
need
it
and
I
want
to
also
echo
Shannon's
remarks
about
what
a
remarkable
remarkable
team
that
we
have
at
the
city
of
Charleston
and
an
admit
that
we
have
those
partnerships
with
the
other
jurisdictions
in
the
county,
but
it
is
truly
an
honor
to
serve
with
Shannon
and
the
fine
staff
you
wouldn't
there.
A
Their
commitment,
level
and
service
to
this
city
is
just
amazing
and
I'm
gonna
risk
leaving
someone
out,
but
I'm,
just
gonna
mention
a
few
names.
It's
highlights.
You
know,
Shannon
by
the
way
became
our
director
of
emergency
management
a
little
over
a
year
ago,
when
Mark
Wilbert
was
elevated
to
our
chief
resiliency
officer,
but
Mark
served
as
the
daytime
incident
commander
during
the
last
week
and
did
a
terrific
job,
along
with
our
long-standing
assistant
to
the
emergency
operations
department,
daniel
fleshes,
I.
A
Don't
think
Daniel
is
here
today,
but
Daniel
does
that
quiet
day-to-day
behind-the-scenes
work
of
providing
us
the
the
organization
and
the
info
Meishan
to
do
what
we
just
were
able
to
pull
off
as
a
team
Robert
how
this
may
sound
funny
who's?
A
computer
guy,
GIS
computer
well
I
got
to
tell
you
all
the
city
of
Charleston
has
the
finest
up-to-date
reporting
software
for
managing
the
situation.
A
In
fact
when,
when
I
was
supposed
to
be
on
Wolf
Blitzer
the
other
night,
but
I
was
dropped
because
Charleston
wouldn't
hurt
that
well,
I
was
looking
forward
to
giving
in
this
line.
Well,
wolf,
you
might
have
the
Situation
Room,
but
we
have
the
situation
a
dashboard.
That's
it
the
situation,
dashboard
that
Robert,
how
devised
for
the
city
of
Charleston
and
then
all
these
teams
going
out
doing
the
emergency
assessments
right
now.
It's
made
so
much
easier
by
the
system
that
Robert
and
Qi
is
developed
for
them.
A
Naomi
brought
in
our
operations
chief
during
this
period
with
the
police
department
and
all
our
team
from
the
Charleston
Police
and
Fire
was
amazing.
Jason
cruising
with
the
fire
department
was
our
nighttime
incident
commander
representing
the
fire
department,
did
an
incredible
job
and
then
employees
just
kind
of
recruited
through
the
ranks
like
Nancy
boy
who
works
in
our
recreation
department,
became
our
liaison
to
to
the
shelter
operation
that
that
was
going
on
in
the
county.
She
did
a
remarkable
job.
A
G
A
A
We
had
a
call
from
two
different
senior
citizen
centers
that
had
lost
their
power
and
they
had
generators,
but
for
whatever
reason
they
weren't
operational
and-
and
you
could
say
well-
that
was
private
property
that
wasn't
a
matter
of
the
city
to
tend
to
Luke,
went
to
those
senior
citizens
sentence
and
he
was
talented
enough
to
get
their
generators
going
and
bring
emergency
power
back
to
those
senior
citizens
center.
Our
traffic
and
transportation
apartment.
Getting
those
signals
up
was
no
small
tasks.
A
A
We
didn't
feel
like
we
needed
to
bring
them
all
the
way
from
Greenville,
but
they
were
willing
and
able
Mayor
Steve,
Benjamin
and
mayor
Knox
white,
and
we
did
get
crews
from
Columbia
and
they
did
a
magnificent
job,
supplementing
our
effort,
mountain
Matt
fountain
and
our
stormwater
department
and
all
the
crews
with
stormwater,
particularly
on
the
preparation
side,
getting
ready.
They
were
amazing
and
Tom
O'brien
and
Matt
all
stop
with
our
debris.
Removal
right
now
managing
the
recovery,
as
is
going
on
as
we
speak.
Even
so,
the
team
Charleston
was
amazing.
A
They're
remarkable
I
also
want
to
thank
the
citizens
of
Charleston
who
stayed
out
of
harm's
way.
Maybe
you
left
town,
maybe
you
evacuated?
Maybe
you
didn't,
but
if
you
stayed
put,
you
knew
to
stay
put
and
and
inside
somewhere
and
not
to
put
our
first
responders
at
risk
and
then
coming
forward
to
help
your
neighbors
since
the
storm
passed
and
now
we
also
looked
at
outreach
and
helped
our
neighbors
in
the
Bahamas.
A
And
finally,
you
you
don't
think
of
this
very
often,
particularly
in
these
days,
where
we
accuse
the
media
of
being
fake
media
and
all
this
stuff.
But
media
and
Charleston
really
did
a
fine
job
of
keeping
our
citizens
surprised
at
what
was
going
on
and
all
like
that.
So
it
was
a
remarkable
effort
and
I
just
want
to
add
my
own
personal
thanks,
not
just
to
those
individuals.
A
Those
are
just
examples
of
the
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
city
and
Charles
city
of
Charleston
employees
that
did
a
remarkable
job
over
the
last
week
to
ten
days
it
was
really
could
I
ask
for
another
any
of
the
you
who
were
here
that
I
mentioned
or
were
involved
in
our
recovery
effort
over
the
last
week.
Would
you
please
stand
and
be
recognized.
A
All
right,
finally,
as
council
knows,
we
I
was
able
to
issue
an
executive
order
declaring
an
emergency
last
week,
and
then
council
passed
three
other
resolutions:
emergency
ordinances.
This
does
not
require
council
action,
but
without
objection
of
council,
I
would
like
to
submit
this
executive
order,
which
rescinds
the
prior
state
of
emergency
and
also
in
effect,
causes
the
three
ordinances
to
expire
and
make
them
no
longer
effective.
I
That
that
was
been
saying
and
I
think
that
is
something
up
with
not
recognizing
that
I
was
out
there
at
these
I
calm
the
sand
pits
with
the
sandbags
and
we've
recognized
so
many
of
our
members
of
our
staff
and
city
employees,
but
there's
also
the
unsung
heroes
of
our
community.
These
were
private
citizens.
These
were
churches
who
sent
people
out
to
this
sandbag
distribution
points
who
just
worked
together
with
one
another,
helping
the
elderly
folks.
I
Who
could
not
look
these
sandbags
off
full
these
sandbags
kind
of
do
their
cars,
and
that
was
out
there
from
Monday
through
through
Wednesday
participating,
but
also
witnessing
what
makes
our
community
so
special,
and
you
talk
about
a
little
bit,
what
not
only
our
staff
but
our
community,
the
people
in
this
community
coming
together,
there
were
several
angels
that
I
saw
helping
one
another
out
there
and
I
just
think.
We
need
to
make
that
sure
that
the
record
is
very
clear
on
that
how
they
came
together
to
help
their
fellow
neighbor.
I
They
did
not
know
one
another.
They
did
not
know
these
people,
but
they
just
picked
that
rule
up
their
sleeves
grab.
The
shovel
and
helped
out
and
I
think
everybody
in
this
room
witness
that
from
time
to
time,
when
the
distribution
centers
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
recognize
the
ordinary
normal
citizen
in
our
community,
he
wanted
to
help
one
another,
and
also
we
got
to
give
a
shout
out
to
dominion.
Energy.
I
After
the
hurricane
we
were
on
the
phone
I
know,
I
was
on
the
phone
with
Tammy.
She
must
have
received
at
least
a
thousand
phone
calls
from
different
people
around
the
community.
They
were
responsive.
They
helped
us
when
we
had
areas
that
we
needed
attention
to
the
power
got
back
on.
It
was
hot,
it
was
extremely
hot,
but
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Tammy
into
the
minion
energy.
Thank
you
for
being
responsive
and
working
with
the
city
on
on
doing
that.
Tammy.
Thank
you.
B
Council,
member
wagon
yeah
Tammy
talked
to
all
of
us
at
least
a
half
a
dozen
times.
I
could
almost
guarantee
it.
I
could
show
you
the
emails
achieved.
She's
just
stayed
right
on
top
of
it,
even
when
it
was
done
and
yeah
she.
She
kept
a
lot
of
the
constituency,
much
happier
than
we
could've
made
them
by
ourselves.
A
All
right
without
further
ado,
we'll
go
forward
to
our
public
hearings.
The
first
is
an
ordinance
providing
the
issuance
of
12
and
a
half
million
dollars,
accommodations
tax
revenue,
bonds
for
the
city
of
Charleston
and
other
matters.
I,
don't
know
if
there
was
a
presentation
planned
on
this,
there's
not
much
need
for
it
other
than
to
allow
the
public
to
know
that
these
bonds
are
in
support
of
the
construction
of
the
International
African
American
Museum.
A
J
Sorry,
we
noted,
and
these
times
it's
a
political
season,
so
you
know
American
based
on
the
press
conference
I
saw
with
having
the
governor
and
everybody
the
mayor
could
make
you
popular.
He
could
make
you
unpopular
and
I'm
unpopular,
so
what
what
I
will
say
in
respirator?
That
is
that
this
museum
at
12.5
million
dollar
bond
right
now,
based
upon
you,
know
on
a
funeral,
prove
it
and
support
it
and
I
understand
that.
J
But
I
resent
my
support
just
face
of
fun
the
facts
of
now
and
the
facts
of
eight
million
dollars,
statewide
for
affordable
housing
in
this
in
the
state,
based
on
the
fact
that
10,000
young
people
on
the
juvenile
justice
was
arrested
in
2017
and
2017.
The
masses
of
those
young
people
are
descendants
directly,
probably
of
slaves.
What
are
we
gonna?
Do
people
who
live
in
the
right
now
based
upon
the
flooding?
J
Secondly,
with
the
Dominion
peace
with
the
saqqaq,
they
give
a
lot
of
money
to
museums
where
all
these
corporations
are
given
the
museum
tons
of
money,
58
million
dollars
raised.
The
question
will
now
be:
will
the
same
corporation,
who
redline
to
our
community
and
insurance
and
banking?
Will
that
will
they
then
reinvest
back
for
those
citizens
that
look
like
me
now,
I'm
gonna
give
you
this
denial,
mr.
J
mayor,
my
god
from
the
Supreme
Court
SCOTUS
Harris
for
the
Army
Corps
generis,
which
is
located
in
Charleston,
which
we
talked
about
permits
issued
with
bonding
dollars
for
our
community
before
the
mint
before
the
Dorian
happen.
Now,
what's
gonna
happen
now
with
the
fund
Water
Commission
he
serves
on
and
what
are
they
going
to
do
so?
I
was
getting
funding
in
the
governor
for
these
very
trying
times
for
folks
in
the
community.
J
K
A
L
You,
mr.
mayor
and
members
of
the
council,
this
ordinance
is
one
that
comes
before
you
after
a
lot
of
work.
As
you
all
know,
it
does
three
things
primarily.
The
first
is
that
it
helps
to
keep
the
balance
of
uses
in
downtown
Charleston.
It
helps
to
limit
the
growth
of
large
new
hotels
and
it
creates
new
funding
for
affordable
housing
through
the
fee
and
LU.
L
It
comes
to
you
after
a
first
read
by
you
all
here
at
council,
a
unanimous
endorsement
and
discussion
at
Planning
Commission,
the
task
force,
which
gave
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
and
thought
and
who
deserve
I-
think
all
the
credit
in
the
world
for
the
effort
that
they
put
into
this
reviewed
it
after
Planning
Commission's
hearing
and
took
up
the
items
that
Planning
Commission
requested
that
they
discuss.
Some
of
you,
of
course,
served
on
that
task
force
and
with
all
that
set
that
comes
back
before
you
this
evening.
L
Now
I
have
a
couple
of
items
related
to
this.
We
have
heard
some
discussion
about
clarifying
one
of
the
components
of
this
ordinance
related
to
the
limit
on
full-service
hotels.
We
have
a
suggestion
about
how
to
do
that,
and
we
also
have
some
of
you
seen
this
before
a
spreadsheet
that
shows
the
wages
of
accommodations
workers,
and
that
is
what
we've
based
it
our
fee
and
LU
upon
that
is
proposed
for
hotels
on
the
peninsula.
So
without
said,
those
are
our
two
handouts
and
we
can
open
the
floor
for
discussion.
I'll
go
back
in
there.
M
A
G
A
N
Name
is
Susan
bass,
I'm,
the
president
of
the
French,
Quarter,
Neighborhood,
Association
and
I.
Would
okay?
Is
this
better?
Thank
you.
First
I'd
like
to
thank
City
Council
for
recognizing
the
need
for
a
task
force
to
be
able
to
move
this
issue
forward
and
to
come
to
a
resolution,
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
asking
me
to
serve
on
that
task.
Force
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
we
spent,
as
you
well
know,
and
many
of
who
has
served
on
the
committee
who
are
here
there
were
a
lot
of.
N
D
I'm
Janet
Hopkins
I
live
at
141,
Church
Street
and
the
primarily
residential
core
of
the
neighborhood.
Although
we
do
have
two
churches,
two
theaters
City
Hall,
a
museum,
a
park,
lots
of
galleries,
lots
of
office,
space,
we're
very
diverse.
We
don't
need
to
be
any
more
diverse
and
we
need
to
protect
the
residential
quality
of
life.
D
I
was
a
little
bit
confused
by
some
emails
from
Historic
Charleston
about
wanting
to
remove
a
ban
on
rooftop
Bars
I
didn't
see
that
in
the
ordinance
that
was
listed
in
am
a
City
Council
agenda,
but
I'm
very
opposed
to
rooftop
Bars,
especially
after
going
to
Savannah
about
a
year
ago
on
a
Saturday
night,
and
there
was
a
rooftop
bar
just
about
on
in
every
block
and
between
that
and
the
the
bars
that
are
peddle
bars
peddle
pubs.
It
was
like
a
carnival
there
and
the
French
Quarter
where
we
live.
D
O
O
Think.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
we
reached
a
very
high
degree
of
consensus,
which
is
pretty
incredible,
given
this
pretty
controversial
issue,
so
I
think
what
you
have
before
you
is
responsive
to
what
you
all
brought
up
when
you
gave
it
first
reading
back
in
May,
and
we
also
responded
to
a
lot
of
the
comments
that
were
given
at
the
Planning
Commission
in
July.
O
So
this
this
ordinance
has
received
a
lot
of
review
and
gotten
unanimous
support
and
I
feel,
like
we've
addressed
a
lot
of
the
questions
that
have
come
up
as
to
the
rooftop
bar
ban.
That
will
come
back
and
Jacob
can
speak
to
this,
but
that
will
come
back
as
a
separate,
ordinance
and
it'll
apply
to
all
uses,
not
just
accommodations
uses
that
will
apply
to
all
commercial
uses,
which
we
think
is
actually
more
comprehensive
and
more
appropriate
for
protecting
the
livability
of
our
neighborhood.
So
we
think
that's
a
better
approach.
O
A
P
Evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Deborah
Anderson
and
I'm
fortunate
to
have
a
family
that
owns
a
small
business
in
the
city
of
Charleston,
downtown
I'm
honored
to
have
served
on
the
task
force
and
I'm
grateful
for
that
opportunity.
I.
Thank
you
city
council,
for
looking
at
this,
and
considering
it.
I
am
one
who's.
An
advocate
for
growth
anywhere
and
being
in
a
family.
There
was
a
business.
P
I
would
never
want
to
hinder
another
person
from
opening
their
business
and
having
the
opportunity
to
soar
and
do
all
of
the
great
and
wonderful
things
that
will
be
or
will
give
to
the
city.
At
the
same
time,
Charleston
is
a
beautiful
city
with
a
lot
of
historical
value
and
I
would
not
want
the
city
to
lose
that
to
lose
the
loving
neighborhoods
and
and
the
camaraderie
and
the
closeness
and
togetherness
so
I
think
that
the
task
force
came
together,
diverse
ly,
with
creative
ideas
to
put
something
in
place.
P
Q
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
Mike
Schuler
I'm,
a
considerably
vested
property
owner
and
stake
holder
in
the
areas
could
be
considered
likely
most
affected
by
this
ordinance.
So
I
thought
it
may
be
good
to
speak
with
you
directly
I've
been
in
direct
communication
with
the
city
and
with
the
task
force,
I
reflected
that
they
were
working
well
and
I.
Think
it
is
a
great
collaborative
effort,
whereas
I
personally
hope
to
remain
generally
supportive
of
this
initiative
as
a
as
a
neighbor
and
a
business
owner.
Q
I
would
also
say
that
several
the
particularly
serious
concerns
remain
to
me.
Those
concerns
specifically
are
parking
requirements,
as
was
discussed
in
the
last
task
force
meeting.
We
specifically
discussed
adding
some
language
to
incorporate
the
application
of
mechanical
parking
and
other
efficient
solutions.
It
would
take
cars
out
of
the
neighborhood's
I.
Think
that's
smart
and
that's
the
right
thing
to
do.
Everybody
agreed
I
did
not
see
it
and
the
latest
posted
documents
online
communicated
that
as
well.
Q
Q
Dealt
with
and
these
types
of
processes
I
offered
two
very
simple:
specific
solutions
via
email
to
the
city
and
some
of
the
councilmen
that
were
on
this
task
force
and
those
specific
solutions
are
to
specifically
allow
for
mechanical
parking
solutions
and
excluding
time
but
from
the
ordinance.
Thank
you
thank.
J
What
the
planning
evylyn
act
did
not
do
1999
was,
it
did
not
factor
in
values
and
zoning
zonings
don't
have
any
value
to
it.
In
terms
of
you
can't
an
aboard
a
Zoning
Appeals,
you
can't
consider
financial
hardship
in
terms
of
zoning.
Zoning
is
really
in,
in
my
opinion,
in
Charleston
some
Vicky's
exercising
and
ripping
people
off.
In
my
opinion,
the
sole
you
look
at
the
1970
census
tracts
and
going
back
to
that
and
a
you,
dag
funding
and
all
the
census
data
that
was
done
back
then
for
Thompson
place.
J
As
you
go
to
1980
in
1990
and
2010
and
2020,
there
was
no
fees
whatsoever
associated
with
growth
at
all
in
terms
of
offsetting,
affordable
housing.
You
to
acknowledge
that
no
law
supposed
to
be
used
to
create
that
to
create
for
the
folks
who
existed
in
the
neighborhoods,
then
for
them
to
benefit
directly.
Mr.
R
R
We've
been
working
on
this
and
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time
and
I
think
engaging
the
stakeholders
was
very
effective
and
we
went
out
with
a
great
unanimous
support
of
this
board
and
we
took
that
to
the
Planning,
Commission
and
amazingly
received
the
unanimous
support
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
I
will
also
say
that
there
was
no
opposition
at
that
meeting
expressed
on
this
ordinance,
so
they
gave
us
a
couple
things
to
work
on.
We
went
back
to
the
task
force.
We
worked
on
them
and
I.
R
Think
myself
and
some
of
you
are
probably
concerned
of
the
speed
at
which
it's
come
back
before
you
tonight,
but
I
have
spent
great
time
going
through
this
ordinance.
I
want
to
commend
Frances,
Cantwell
and
city
staff
for
really
working
through
this
ordinance.
This
is
a
good
ordinance.
This
balances
growth.
This
protects
businesses,
office,
use,
retail
use.
This
does
what
we
need
it
to
do.
This
is
a
good
ordinance
and
I
think
it's
gonna
better.
R
Allow
us
to
measure
the
negative
impacts
and
the
positive
benefits
of
new
to
hotels,
moving
forward,
so
I
encourage
you
to
focus
on
the
words
in
the
ordinance.
Let's
look
at
what's
before
you
and
I
ask
that
Charleston
needs
this.
Let's
please
get
this
done
tonight
and
I.
Thank
you
for
your
consideration.
Thank
you
kindly
yes,.
A
S
Was
asking
a
little
bit
earlier?
I've
got
two
kind
of
questions
about
this
number.
One
is,
throughout
this
ordinance.
There's
a
statement
about
having
to
wait.
Seven
years
and
I
would
be
interested
to
before
you.
If
you
want
to
put
a
hotel
off
his
property,
you
have
to
have
it
vacant.
In
effect,
for
seven
years,
I
was
wondering
what
the
rationale
for
that
seven
years,
and
would
it
not
it
just
seems
kind
of
arbitrary.
S
Did
you
say
seven
years
has
got
to
be
vacant
or
not
used
as
something
so
you're,
in
effect
creating
of
an
eyesore
for
seven
years.
If
you
wanted
to
be
a
hotel,
if
we
want
to
put
a
moratorium
on
the
tails,
that's
probably
another
way
of
doing
it,
but
it
just
doesn't
seem
like
I
would
rather
do
it
with
some
kind
of
incentive.
S
If
you
want
a
hotel,
you've
got
to
give
up
something
to
make
that
happen,
but
not
just
a
way
to
seven
years.
So
I
was
interested
whether
mr.
hasty
mr.
king
or
mr.
Lindsey
would
like
to
maybe
give
me
some
explanation
as
to
why
that
is,
and
my
second
part
of
my
question
is
the
it
seems
to
be
kind
of
the
contrary
to
that
position.
Is
that
we,
the
committee
through
its
deliberations,
put
the
minimum
number
of
units
at
20
and
then
at
the
last
iteration
it
went
down
to
10.
S
So
now
it
seems
to
me
like
you're,
allowing
more
of
the
hotels
in
these.
Maybe
residential
areas
like
on
King
Street,
where
the
second
third
floor
were
were
residential
units
that
now
you're
making
it
a
lot
easier
for
maybe
those
things
to
be
eliminated
so
I,
just
like
some
clarification,
I'm,
not
very
pleased
with
the
way
it
does
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me.
L
The
way
that
well,
first
of
all,
we'll
start
with
the
first
question
that
you
brought
up
a
concern
that
we've
heard
over
and
over
and
that
this
ordinance
addresses
is
the
matter
of
losing
our
offices,
our
workplaces
and
losing
residences
in
the
city
center.
We
don't
want
to
see
the
city
center
become
a
place,
that's
just
given
to
tourists
uses
and
in
order
to
do
that,
rationale
is
that
there
needs
to
be
some
limit
on
the
displacement
of
offices
or
residences.
L
Now,
to
give
you
an
example,
let's
say:
I'm
a
developer
I've
come
to
town
I
want
to
build
a
hotel
and
I
want
to
do
it
on
a
site
that
currently
has
an
office
on
it.
Well,
I
could
buy
the
building
Nuka
the
lease
kick
out
the
office
and
leave
the
office
closed
for
a
day
and
then
come
back
tomorrow
and
apply
to
become
a
hotel
and
I
can
say,
there's
no
office
in
my
building.
L
So
there
has
to
be
some
time
in
the
past
into
which
we
can
say.
Look
if
there's
been
an
office
in
your
building
for
the
past
year
or
the
past
three
years
or
the
past
five
years
or
the
past
seven
years,
you
can't
turn
it
into
a
hotel.
Otherwise
you
could
have
someone
coming
in
buying
a
building
getting
rid
of
whatever
they
use
and
then
coming
in
the
next
day
and
turning
it
into
a
hotel,
which
is
a
problem.
So
that's
why
the
the
time
has
been
stated
in
the
ordinance.
L
Seven
years
is
a
position
after
a
lot
of
discussion
that
everybody
agreed
was
a
strong
long
reaching
period.
I
think
there
was
discussion,
though
in
folks
talk
about,
maybe
should
be
five
years
or
it
should
be
less.
So
there
was
discussion
about
that
matter,
but
that's
why
it
exists
to
prevent
people
from
flipping
them
for
use
and
turning
into
a
hotel
the
next
day.
Now
on
the
so
we
let.
S
Me
just
let
me
just
respond
to
that,
because
it
seems
to
me
like
that
through
the
through
these
ordinances,
the
city
is
picking
winners
and
losers,
so
maybe
we
maybe
we
do
need
more
hotel.
I,
don't
know
if
that
would
be
case,
but
you
know
it
gets
into
a
situation
and
I
guess
we
could
come
back
and
change
the
law
if
we
wanted
to
to
to
kick
that
phase
out.
But
I
was
just
curious.
Why,
seven
years,
why
not
three
years?
Why
not
two
years?
That's.
L
A
matter
that
was
discussed
at
some
length.
What
is
the
period
of
time?
Seven
years
was
one
that
everybody
sort
of
came
to
because
it's
a
it's
a
long
period.
It's
a
strong
period
of
time,
and
it
really
says:
if
you
want
to
build
a
hotel,
you
need
to
buy
a
piece
of
property,
that's
already
vacant
or
that
doesn't
displace
a
productive
use
that
we
want
in
our
downtown.
L
That
is,
that
is
a
slightly
separate
matter
in
terms
of
destruction.
The
heaviness
of
building
I
would
look
to
our
legal
counsel
to
clarify
to
give
the
answer
to
that.
But
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
that
that's
a
separate
matter
that
has
to
do
with
the
vesting
of
rights
in
a
case
of
an
emergency
when
something
like
that
happens,
and
there
is
a
period
of
time
in
which
the
existing
property
rights
stay
in
place.
If
an
owner
of
a
damaged
building
doesn't
act
on
that,
then
they
lose
their
rights.
L
First
of
all,
let's
say
on
King
Street,
for
example
the
example
that
you
used
if
a
residence
or
an
office
was
in
that
building
the
displacement
rule
applies
so,
regardless
of
the
number
of
units
that
an
owner
is
asking
for,
if
it's
10
or
20
or
whatever,
that
could
not
displace
an
office
or
residence
if
it
had
been
in
the
building
before
up
to
a
period
of
seven
years,
so
just
across
the
board
that
applies
in
general.
That
number
was
also
discussed
at
some
length.
L
L
Many
of
the
buildings
in
downtown
have
small
offices,
law
offices,
various
kinds
of
services
that
happen
on
second
floors,
and
we
felt
it
was
important
back
then
to
preserve
those
kinds
of
uses
so
that
the
city
center
doesn't
be
become
to
be
given
over
entirely
to
just
tourist
functions
and
they
settled
on
nine
as
the
number
it
went
back
and
forth
during
deliberations
from
20
on
the
upper
end,
and
then
10
was
the
one
that
was
settled
on
again.
Is
the
compromise
number
now,
if
you
think
about
historic
buildings
on
King
Street?
L
If
you
look
at
the
few
and
Market
Street
East
Bay
Street
upper
upper
King
and
meeting
that
could
be
turned
into
accommodations
uses,
you
could
probably
get
three
four
five
six,
maybe
eight
into
some
of
those
you
could
probably
maybe
get
10
or
12
into
some
of
those.
But
the
truth
is
there
aren't
a
lot
of
historic
buildings
on
those
streets
that
could
be
converted
into
as
many
as
20
units.
So
I
think
it
would
be
unusual
that
we
would
see
those
historic
buildings
to
turn
into
20
unit
hotels
for
the
most
part.
L
L
L
A
We're
discussing
if,
if
you
were
to
be
able
to
put
ten
units
in
a
upper
floor
on
King
Street,
you
would
have
to
take
it
to
the
bza
and
meet
all
the
requirements,
just
like
any
hotel
in
the
city
with
parking
with
paying
for
the
affordable
housing
with
protecting
the
diversity
uses.
So
I
think
it
was
kind
of
Jimmy
palaces
who
recommended
12
and-
and
some
other
folks
said
well,
there's
some
properties
that
might
need
her
stark
renovation
that
aren't
being
used
for
anything,
and
maybe
a
little
lower
number
would
be
good.
A
B
L
Unit
is
the
terminus
used
throughout
the
ordinance
and
we
discuss
it
as
being
a
hotel
room,
but
that's
how
the
ordinance,
throughout
the
whole
accommodations
ordinance
defines
you
would
have.
For
example,
a
dwelling
unit
is
a
home
that
one
resides
and
a
sleeping
unit
is
a
unit
that
one
resides
in
for
under
thirty
days.
L
T
It's
defined
in
54,
120,
there's
a
bunch
of
general
definitions
and
it
been
defined
that
way
for
a
long
time,
but
some
smart
attorney
I'm
sure
at
some
point
said
you
know.
If
we
can
have
you
know
so
many
guest
rooms.
Does
you
know
one?
What
does
the
guest
room?
Does
that
mean?
You
know
a
unit
with
three
different
beds
in
it?
Is
that
a
guest
room
or
is
that
a
suite?
And
so
they
came
up
with
a
sleeping
unit
idea
and
it's
basically
one
hotel
unit
versus
you
know
with.
However
many
rooms
in
it.
B
B
U
B
Some
of
this
looks
like
it's
been
deleted,
but
then
it
doesn't
look
like
it's
been
deleted.
It
looks
like
it's
got
a
line
through
the
middle,
but
you
met
where
you
missed
the
under
lives
and
I
guess
I
could
be.
You
know:
nah
I'm,
not
positive,
I'm,
real
comfortable,
looking
at
it
in
this
format,
but
if
we
go
up
if
we
go
to
be
one
I'd
love
for
you
to
read
that
to
me
and
then
tell
me
what
it
means.
So
this
is
a
two
page
sentence.
B
B
B
L
If
we
just
look
at
one
a
again,
this
is
defining
what
these
things
are
and
very
important.
This
is
something
that
is
used
by
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals,
as
they
go
through
their
process
to
determine
whether
or
not
a
hotel
qualifies,
and
this
is
the
key
toolkit
the
BCA
uses
when
they
determine
whether
or
not
it
fits.
So
if
you.
B
B
Bca
may
approve
the
alterations
are
replacing
such
existing
dwelling
units
on
the
same
side.
Now
there
are
combinations,
use
grids
within
a
radius
of
one
quarter
of
a
mile.
Then
we
jump
over
here
and
it
says,
location
does
not
result
in
any
over
concentration
of
low-income
households
are
defined
by
us
hood.
Then
we
go
on
down
a
couple
more
and
then
BCA
shall
require
any
alteration
or
replacement,
and
then
we
keep
going
down.
You
know
and
bonds
and
letters
of
credit,
and
that's
all
one
sentence.
B
L
I
hear
what
you're
saying
this
is
a
complex
ordinance,
I
completely
get
you
and
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
is
very
well
versed
in
the
complexities
of
it
and
they
are
the
ones
who
pointed
out
the
challenges
that
exist
they're,
the
ones
who
said
this
is
complex.
We
need
to
make
some
changes
to
make
it
better,
and
even
though
that
does
have
that
long,
first
sentence
in
there.
L
B
A
W
W
But
what
what
the
subsection
a
is
saying
is
that
if
you
have
had
residential
units
in
use
within
the
past
seven
years,
you
have
to
replace
them
on-site
or
if
you
can
replace
them
off-site,
it
has
to
be
within
a
quarter
of
a
mile
and
you
have
to
replace
them
in
a
similar
income
level
and
rental
level
as
what
you're
displacing
and
if
you
don't
have
them
done
by
the
time
you
want
to
occupy
your
hotel.
You
got
to
post
a
bond,
that's
what
it
says:
okay,.
W
Work
a
special
exception
as
a
term
of
art
that
comes
straight
out
of
zone
endurance
and
the
state
enabling
act.
You
either
have
a
use
as
a
matter
of
right,
a
use
that
it
has
conditions
attached
to
it,
which
is
usually
done
at
a
staff
level.
If
you,
if
you
meet
the
conditions,
you
check
the
boxes,
you
get
your
conditional
use
and
then
there's
the
special
exception,
which
is
a
little
more
heightened
review.
W
Only
the
Board
of
Zoning
Appeals
can
review
and
grant
or
deny
special
exceptions,
and
what
this
ordinance
says.
There's
we
got
plenty
of
special
exceptions
throughout
our
zoning
ordinance
and
the
hotel
has
always
been
a
use
granted
by
special
exception,
at
least
for
the
last
I,
don't
know
20
plus
years.
B
B
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
questions,
I
had
one
hotel.
There
gentleman
mentioned
the
fact
that
you're
trying
to
put
us
out
of
business
with
her
old
Lord
notch
somewhere
here
it
says
we
can
have
eight
when
there's
one
set,
you
called
it
here,
the
super
hotel,
full-service
full-service
hotel
than
that,
but
and
which
now
defined
you
just
passed
it
out
to
it.
Okay,
that's
my
understand.
It's
as
we
have
up
to
eight,
and
that's
now
says
we
can
only
add
four
on
the
peninsula
on.
A
B
Village
is
trying
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
here,
we're
not
gonna
have
to
redo.
That's
all
I'm
doing
I'm,
not
against
anything
in
here.
What
you're
intending
to
do
that
have
some
questions
about
the
ten
units
we
have
in
this.
This
particular
Hotel
person
mentioned
the
fact
that
okay
I
have
a
hotel
and
you
kill
him
me
because
the
short-term,
rentals
they're
being
they've
written
a
50
or
$60
a
day
and
I
can't
get
I,
can't
even
pay
my
staff
for
that.
B
Okay,
he
said
now
you're
coming
in
here
and
you're
gonna
put
up
and
down
K
Street
any
way
you
can
find
the
spot
another
ten
units
in
every
vacant,
building
that
you
can
get
your
hands
on.
What's
that
gonna
do
to
me
and
I
could
not
answer
that
question
okay,
very
specifically,
and
he
thinks
it's
something.
That's
basically
is
there
to
help,
protect
him
and
make
sure
he
stays
in
business.
That's
you
know
these
hotels
cost
these
guys
a
bunch
of
money
and
are
we?
B
Are
we
shooting
them
or
were
you
running
them
off
or
we
got
a
pricey
amount
of
business
because
we're
being
you
know,
we
try
and
we're
trying
to
protect
a
specific
area.
The
overlay,
but
are
we
are
we
killing
the
people
that
are
already
there?
That's
my
question
and
that
was
his
question
to
me
and
that's
question.
I
did
not
have
an
answer
to
oh,
oh.
W
Well,
I
mean
I'm,
not
the
most
qualified
person
to
answer
it,
but
I
think
what
this
ordinance
does
is
that
I
think
it
strengthens
the
existing
businesses
and
if
you
want
to
have
a
hotel
because
of
the
impact
that
it
has
on
various
levels
in
the
city,
it's
it's.
You
have
to
meet
a
more
stringent
criteria,
so
I
think
that
the
idea
was
not
to
to
put
the
kibosh
on
hotels
in
the
future,
but
saying
if
you're
going
to
have
one
you
know
there.
W
There
are
certain
things
that
you
have
to
certain
criteria
that
you
have
to
meet
and
be
very
sensitive
to
things
like
housing
and
office,
use
and
retail.
We
don't
want
I,
don't
think
I
mean
I'm,
not
speaking
for
myself,
but
I.
Think
the
consensus
I
heard
from
the
task
force
anyway,
was
that
it
was
very
important
that
that
the
the
city
remained
diverse
and
I'm,
not
just
talking
and
among
among
people
I'm
talking
diverse
and
you
and-
and
this
was
a
way
to
to
help
protect
that
that's
right.
Y
You
Thank
You,
Meredith,
II
I
was
I,
was
on
the
task
force
and
there
was
a
lot
of
work
done.
I
think
we're.
You
know
very,
very
close
on
this.
There
were
two
items
in
particular
that
came
out
of
the
discussions
in
the
taskforce
and
didn't
actually
end
up
in
the
ordinance,
as
is
currently
drafted
and
I.
Think
we
need
to
just
add
those
in
I.
Don't
think
that
it's
any
heavy
lifting,
but
there
are
two
components.
Y
We
can
laugh
for
those
in
the
future
if
we
find
that
or
any
council
finds
that
there's
minded
to
add
a
full-service
hotel
and
a
PUD,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
spell
that
out
in
the
ordinance
itself.
Just
so
we
specifically
defined
that
that
that
eight
does
not
include
there.
Our
puds
are
not
included
in
that.
Y
Those
are
two
items
that
taskforce
agreed
upon.
We
discussed
there
wasn't
any
consternation
around
it.
It
just
simply
didn't
end
up
in
in
the
document.
As
stated
and
I
would
encourage
his
body
to
consider
out
of
those
two
things.
It
should
be
fairly
simple.
You
know
language
to
add
Francis.
None
of
you
want
to
add
something.
W
If
I
could
just
address
that
I
mean
it
does
not
hurt
at
all
to
recognize
the
puds
most
puds
say
you
can
have
you
know
it
depends
on
what
they
say.
As
you
just
noted,
it's
it's
its
own
zoning
category
and
the
PUD
that
I'm
aware
of
at
least
downtown
where
a
hotel
use
is
allowed,
is
Magnolia
and
they've
got
they've
got
their
double
bootstrapped
because
their
PUD
says
we
will
have
a
hotel
and
if--and
they're
governed
by
the
rules
that
are
in
effect
at
the
time
the
PUD
is
passed.
W
So
that's
that
does
not
that
exempts
them
from
this
and
then.
Secondly,
if
not
more
importantly,
Magnolia
has
a
development
agreement
which
is
a
totally
separate
animal,
but
it's
essentially
a
contract
that
says
we
can't
change
your
zoning
unless
it's
some
emergency
or
national
doesn't
natural
disaster
or
something
like
that.
But
if
you
wanted
to
to
say
that
it
doesn't
apply
to
pods
I,
don't
think
that's
a
that's
the
thing.
W
Y
Yeah
and
that's
something
that
more
and
more
is
gonna
be
prevalent,
and
obviously
we
want
to
allow
for
as
much
parking
that
as
we
can
in
the
city
of
Charleston.
We
all
know:
we've
got
very
small
amounts
of
space
to
operate
within
and
so
again,
I
just
think
that
those
two
items
in
my
mind,
although
maybe
it
just
I,
think
clarifies
it
so
that
there's
no
confusion
as
you
move
forward
and
there's
no
confusion
of
future
councils
to
understand
our
intent
specific
to
those
issues
so
and.
W
AA
Downtown
has
changed.
My
grandfather
grew
up
on
Columbus
Street
and
my
grandmother
grew
up
on
Magazine
Street
and
every
once
in
a
while.
I
take
them
down
here
to
have
supper
and
they
don't
even
recognize
where
they
grew
up.
They
moved
to
West
LEED,
for
affordability
and
to
have
a
yard
to
raise
their
kids
and
unfortunately,
things
have
drastically
changed.
This
ordinance
isn't
gonna
change
that
and
we
don't
know
what's
gonna
happen
50
years
from
now,
who
knows
it?
We
could
be
living
in
the
Jetsons
50
years.
AA
So
now
we
might
have
buildings
in
the
sky,
people
flying
in
hover
cars.
This
thing
is
gonna
change,
but
you
can't
take
away
all
the
hard
work
that
the
members
of
the
committee
did
to
give
us
something
that
is
better
than
what
we
have
now,
which
is
nothing
so
I'll
support
it.
Although
I
know
that
it
will
change,
I
mean
I
can
figure
out
in
my
mind
where
these
eight
full
service
hotels
are
gonna,
go
right
now,
I
mean
it's
pretty
easy
to
figure
it
out.
AA
You
know,
and
people
are
going
to
be
rushing
to
make
that
happen.
Eventually,
some
councils
are
going
to
change.
That
number
probably
won't
be
this
one,
but
the
only
way
to
get
anything
done
in
this
city
is
to
get
the
stakeholders
at
the
table.
One
person
is
not
intelligent
enough
to
make
a
decision
on
half
of
150,000
people,
and
so
anytime
we
have
a
decision.
AA
A
Anderson
Christopher
King
served
on
the
task
force,
John
Marsland
Jim
phalluses,
who
in
Orlando
receiving
an
award
for
his
West
Ashley
home
to
hotel
today,
Helen
Hill
with
the
convention,
Visitors,
Bureau,
Tim,
Muller
and
then
councilmembers,
white
sea
kings,
Gregory
and
myself,
so
I
thank
them
and
and
you're
right.
At
the
end
of
the
day.
This
is
a
much
better
project.
A
product
I
should
say
as
a
result
of
this
collaboration.
I,
certainly
big
knowledge
that
so
councilmember
Lewis.
This.
G
Was
to
me
that
certainly
will
support
this
also
do
not
hold
it
against
shutdown,
Reynold
and
then,
after
that,
it
passed.
We
made
a
lot
of
Minister
that
still
some
more
work
to
do
so,
I'm
sure,
there's
gonna,
be
some
amendments
in
the
future
could
be
made
to
this,
but
this
task
force
has
put
their
hearts
and
their
minds
into
this
and
I
think
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
vote
on
this,
so
we
could
have
a
little
better
quality
of
life
within
the
city.
A
L
This
does
mayor
is
it
it
just
spells
out,
first
of
all
that
there
will
be
four
more
full-service
hotels
on
the
peninsula
and
it
just
go.
It
just
goes
into
specifics,
and
it
says
that
in
order
to
do
that,
any
hotel
on
the
peninsula,
having
more
than
150
units,
must
be
a
full-service
hotel
and
in
no
event
shall
any
hotel
on
the
peninsula
have
more
than
250.
So
this
has
the
effect
of
capping
the
room
limit
at
250.
L
Now
today
there
are
a
number
of
areas
on
the
peninsula,
including
in
the
full-service
zone
colloquially
referred
to
as
the
Bennett
box,
or
even
anywhere
north
of
the
septum
of
Clark
Parkway,
where
there
isn't
a
room
limit
there,
just
isn't
room
limit
doesn't
exist,
so
this
caps
that
on
the
whole
Peninsula
and
then
it
says,
furthermore,
there
should
only
be
for
more
full-service
hotels
as
defined.
This
was
a
total.
It
was
implied
by
our
work
and
the
task
force,
but
it
wasn't
clearly
defined
and
that's
what
this
does.
W
I'm,
sorry,
just
so
that
the
the
record
is
clear,
the
amendment
that's
on
your
desk
would
amend
section
54,
220,
B
I.
By
adding
the
language
it
says.
Any
hotel
on
the
peninsula
having
in
excess
of
150
sleeping
units,
must
be
a
full-service
hotel,
as
as
herein
defined
which
is
defined
in
that
subsection
and
in
no
event
shall
any
Hotel
on
the
peninsula
have
more
than
250
units.
That's
amendment
one
just
did
a
little
bit
of
quick
notation.
W
The
amendment
regarding
mechanical
parking
that
shows
up
on
page
11
under
subsection,
11
and
I
would
suggest
that
the
amendment
would
say
subsection
11
would
now
say
the
demonstrated
provision
of
off
street
parking
at
the
rate
of
two
spaces
that
meet
the
design
requirements
of
section
54
318
for
each
three
sleeping
units,
councilmember
Wagner
semicolon
provided,
however,
the
utilization
of
mechanical
parking
meeting.
This
ratio
shall
be
allowed.
W
Then
then,
amendment
three
would
be
on
subsection
II
on
the
last
page
of
the
ordinance
where
we
would
add
a
section.
This
is
where
we
say
that
this
ordinance
only
applies
to
special
exceptions
granted
after
first
reading,
essentially
and
I
will
suggest
in
councilmember
White's
amendment
that
we
would
say
the
provisions
of
this
section.
54
220
shall
not
apply
to
Planned
Unit
development
that
incorporate
accommodations
uses
approved
as
of
May
28
2019,
which
was
the
first
reading
of
the
ordinance.
C
This
was
with
the
task
force
and
the
new
amendment
they
have
where
this
dope
makes
sure
that
the
other
hotels
that
we
have
is
gonna
have
their
parking
on
site
and
not
renting
properties.
Next
door,
like
we're
doing
a
good
specialist
Epson
that
we
had
and
like
some
people,
are
renting
it
from
the
church
parking
lot
and
renting
it
from
various
other
places,
because
if
that
happens,
once
these
places
want
their
property
back,
then
the
cars
going
to
be
on
the
streets.
C
Then
we
gonna
still
have
a
problem,
and
this
would
that's
why,
when
you
come
to
special
reception,
you
wanna
rent
places,
I'm
not
gonna,
support
that
anymore,
because
that's
what
happening
back
in
the
days
maybe
was
just
giving
people
special
exception.
They
can
rent
spaces
down
the
street.
They
can
rent
to
someone
else
and
those
people
come
back
and
say:
no
look.
We
are
selling
our
billing
us
or
not.
C
W
L
As
it's
written
right
now,
council
member,
it
says
a
long-term
provision
of
own
our
off-site
parking
and
that
refers
to
the
spot
throughout
the
city.
Anybody
who's
got
offsite
parking
has
to
prevent
a
valid
10-year
lease
for
their
parking,
so
that
expires
after
ten
for
something
that
exists
throughout
the
ordinance
for
everybody
offices,
hotels,
restaurants,
you
name
it!
So
if
that's
something
that's
a
specific
concern
in
this
case,
maybe
we
could
entertain
this
some
kind
of
amendment
to
place
that
parking
specifically
on-site
with
that
said.
L
C
That's
the
only
on
that's
the
only
problem.
I
had
you
know
with
that
parking
situations.
I
see
a
lot
of
businesses
that
we
have
these
restaurants
doing
the
same
thing
and
they
parking.
You
have
a
parking
off
site,
because
this
is
causing
a
problem
in
a
lot
of
community,
even
where
I
live
now
and
they're
parking
all
up
and
down
King
Street,
because
you
have
so
many
restaurants-
that's
moving
there,
but
they
don't
have
any
parking.
So
they'll
get
raining
parking
spaces.
C
L
Here,
one
of
the
other
things
counselor
that
I
might
just
mention
is
that
we
recently
did
some
work
related
to
this
for
restaurants
and
we
limited
the
growth
of
offsite
parking
for
restaurants,
adjacent
to
residential
properties,
and
that
was
a
really
good
thing.
I
think
that
really
helped,
and
we
could
look
at
as
a
separate
effort
for
doing
that.
Same
related
to
hotel
use
is
just
basically
saying
if
you're
a
hotel,
you
can't
get
a
parking
lot
right
next
to
a
residential
property.
I
think
that
worked
really
well
in
the
case
of
restaurants.
W
Third,
one
very
quickly,
the
sentence
would
be
added
to
the
last
provision,
subsection
E.
That
would
say
the
provisions
of
this
section
54
to
20,
which
is
the
accommodations
use,
shall
not
apply
to
plan
unit
developments
that
incorporate
accommodations
uses
or,
you
could
say,
allow
accommodations
uses
approved
as
of
May,
28
2019,
and
so
what
this
would
do
is
all
the
existing
pods
are
safe,
future
pods,
it's
up
to
you
to
decide
whether
you
would
want
them
to
have
a
hotel
or
not.
Okay,
about.
M
A
AB
Thank
You
mr.
meow
I
want
to
commend.
You
I
want
to
commend
the
task
force
because
we've
come
a
long
way
on
this
one.
Oh
that's
right!
You
know
the
first
time
we
got
this
foot
in
front
of
us.
Mr.
Morgan
passed
it
out
and
in
the
Xerox
people
was
wrong:
I'm
not
making
that
up.
I
am
NOT
making
that
uptick
the
ordinance
had
been
copied
and
he
came
around
passed
it
on
our
desk.
AB
So
we've
come
a
long
way
from
there
and
I
appreciate
the
talent
that
was
around
the
past
for
historic,
Johnston,
Preservation,
Society
others
and
I
appreciate
this
cap.
This
council,
in
that
I
came
in
here
with
about
four
bullet
points
that
I
thought
was
unfit
for
us
to
vote
on
the
night
unless
they
were
considered
and
I
didn't
speak
to
any
of
my
colleagues
on
council.
One
was
the
parking.
We
already
have
hotels
that
on
the
peninsula
used
stacked
parking.
AB
AB
You
have
three
years
as
I
understand
that
you're
grandfathered
under
their
zoning,
to
put
it
back
they're,
given
our
approval
process,
if
you
had
to
go
through
the
VAR
through
eight
after
a
disaster
type
situation,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
that
rascal
back
up,
probably
designed
approved
all
of
that
in
a
three
year
period,
the
70th
portion
and
I
think
is
just
too
long.
That's
almost
two
presidential
terms
that.
I
AB
O
Thank
you,
Winslow,
hey
see,
Jacob
spoke
to
it
and
we
did
have
a
lot
of
discussion
around
this
I
think
what
we
were
trying
to
do
was,
as
Jacob
said,
of
course,
dissuade
people
from
coming
in
and
kicking
out
tenants
and
then
the
next
day
that's
sort
of
an
extreme
measure.
But
even
what
we
were
saying
is
sort
of
the
market
is
tilted
so
hard
towards
hotels.
Right
now
and
I
know
that
could
change.
O
It
out
and
then
come
back
and
ask
for
their
entitlements
and
so
and
get
around
that
that
displacement
measure,
which
we've
again
just
to
remind
you
all.
That
was
one
of
the
primary
reasons
that
we
wanted
to
open
up
the
accommodations
overlay
and
look
at
it.
It
was
around
displacement
abuses
in
preserving
diversity
in
our
downtown
Peninsula.
So,
seven
again
it
might
seem
sort
of
arbitrary
at
one
point
we're
talking
about
ten
and
there
that's
a
little
much
so
we
brought
it
back
down
to
seven.
O
AB
R
Is
the
only
thing
I
would
add?
Is
there
was
a
bit
of
market
data
that
sort
of
pushed
this,
with
particular
from
the
industry
folks
involved
on
the
task
force,
and
so
really
it
was,
as
mr.
hasty
said,
sort
of
trying
to
calibrate
it
for
the
current
market
condition
seven
years
was
was
ultimately
what
felt
to
be
the
sort
of
right,
the
right
number
for
this
market.
You.
AB
S
Was
kind
of
my
my
sense
of
this
thing
when
I
raised
the
question
the
first
time
if
I
were
gonna,
build
a
hotel
in
Charleston,
it's
gonna.
Take
me
three
or
four
years
I
mean
just
from
at
least
four
years
from
the
first
time
I.
So
what
I'm
gonna
do
is
I
pick
up
and
I
say:
okay,
the
rebuilding,
let's
say
it's
fully
read
and
I:
just
throw
everybody
out,
because
I'm
gonna
have
to
be
I,
need
to
start
planning.
S
S
A
S
Y
A
K
A
A
Okay
and
so
on,
the
the
three
amendments
prior
to
that
are
all
packaged
together,
which
is
to
add
the
provision
about
a
variety
of
parking
to
make
clear
about
the
PUD
and
also
to
clarify
the
number
of
rooms.
We
want
to
vote
on
that
on
those
amendments
separately,
but
I,
don't
think
we
need
to
I
think
they
were
agreed
to
by
consensus
and
part
of
the
original
motion.
So
any
further
discussion
on
the
original
motion
with
the
three
and
now
four
of
four
amendments,
because
it's
passed
right.
K
A
A
AB
S
S
S
A
Let's
make
it
clear,
then:
let's
vote
on
the
combination
of
three
amendments
about
the
parking,
the
PUD
and
the
number
of
rooms,
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
second
reading
of
the
overall
ordinance,
as
amended
all
in
favor,
please
say:
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification
to
me
we
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
gotcha.
A
AB
AB
AD
A
It's
been
before
us
before
back
in
May,
that's
gone
to
the
task
force
a
total
of
three
times
and
to
the
Planning
Commission
I
have
full
confidence
and
and
Miss
Cantwell
for
accurately
conveying
the
amendments
that
we've
made
to
this
matter
tonight
and
I
mean
I,
hear
you
but
I
think
we
have
it
clearly
in
front
of
us
what
this
ordinance
is
and
I
ask
for
your
support
to
go
ahead
and
give
third
reading
tonight.
There's
motion
on
the
floor
to
defer
any
the
further
discussion.
Councilmember.
G
G
G
G
AA
W
AA
W
M
A
M
Mercy
just
quickly:
procedurally,
we
give
it
third
rating,
we
don't
give
it
I
mean.
Second,
we
don't
give
it
third
reading
when
it
comes
back,
there
are
no
substantive
changes
that
we
can
make
to
it
without
taking
it
all
the
way
back
to
the
beginning
anyway,
right
so
there's
no
tactical
advantage
to
not
giving
it
third
reading
same
as
to
giving
a
third
reading,
I
mean
unless
there's
I.
W
Z
AC
AC
A
W
AC
A
M
A
Y
A
J
The
effects
that
has
had
on
the
black
community
as
individual
as
an
individual,
saying,
that's
not
as
an
organizational
leader,
a
club
leader
or
Risley.
That
I
believe
some
research
at
state
anyway,
in
this
stays
for
the
unpopular
I,
mean
separation
of
church
estate
point
blank
because
of
slavery
and
segregation.
That's
why
I
don't
I,
don't
believe
in
commingling
my
religious
police
and
political
beliefs
together
at
all
right.
J
Here's
all
my
letters,
I
got
here
from
for
Margaret
Seymour,
who
will
be
doing
a
summary
dismissal
regarding
my
complaints
against
this
City
Public
Service,
Commission
and
apartment
transportation.
They
ain't
the
Jetsons,
take
people
seriously
when
they
come
to
meetings.
They
say
that
jet
says
people
are
seriously
impacted
by
your
ordinances
and
your
policies
and
they're,
not
joking
right.
Now,
people
are
out
the
lights
that
were
poor
for
three
days
to
Sunday
that
wasn't
comfortable
for
them.
J
Many
senior
citizens,
many
had
serious
issues
doing
this
hurricane,
take
it
seriously:
I'm,
sick
and
tired
of
counting
meeting
some
people.
You
think
this
is
a
joke.
You
can't
have
rhetoric
passing
back
and
forth
and
not
taking
us
here.
Ace
is
really
in
the
city.
Right
now,
in
1974,
morality
run
selections
on
the
black
vote.
Now
the
black
folders
down
to
literally
nothing
I,
want
to
hear
this
kind
of
talk
about
voting
race.
What
are
you
gonna
talk
about
a
race?
What
are
you
gonna
do
about
race?
That's
my
that's
another!
J
V
V
We
had
a
meeting
last
night
saying
the
different
things
that
had
taken
place
on
the
east
side,
and
how
are
we
going
about
to
change
it?
I
was
not
invited
in
the
beginning,
I
was
invited
after
everybody
got
together,
I
want
to
say
this.
There
was
talking
about
fighting
crime
and
the
situation
crime
is.
We
cannot
stop
crying,
that's
a
big
lie,
but
we
can
make
crime
so
uncomfortable
that
they
feel
like
a
cockroach
when
the
light
come
on.
V
If
you
ever
sell
Papa
Roach,
when
the
light
come
on
it
stops
it
don't
move
until
the
light
somebody
make
a
move,
then
let
me
run
into
anything
to
try
to
get
away
the
big
line.
We
cannot
stop
crying
and
I
hear
people
are
saying
how
good
these
people
are
doing
all
they're
doing
so
good,
honey-
heaven,
oh
yes,
I
did
that,
but
to
whom
much
is
given
much
is
expected.
If
you
get
$100,000
yeah,
you
support
to
do
good.
V
AE
Good
evening,
I'll
be
brief,
but
I'm,
not
a
public
speaker,
so
I'm,
sorry
that
I'm
gonna,
Courtney
gazelle
ski
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
not
a
public
speaker,
so
I'm
gonna
read
a
little
bit
to
you.
My
name
is
Courtney
gazelle
ski
and
I
live
at
1605,
Chandon
Street,
it's
an
adjacent
property
to
1150
folly.
Road
I
would
like
to
strongly
encourage
the
council
to
deny
rezoning
of
this
property.
The
second
stop
work
order
was
issued
today.
It's
the
second
since
August
28th,
it's
for
construction.
AE
The
stop
worker
order
was
for
construction
of
an
additional
two-story
structure
on
this
property,
they've
engaged
in
continuous
and
deliberate
violations
and
deceptive
practices
at
this
property
to
construct
in
a
manner
that
does
not
correspond
with
the
city's
century.
5
plan
for
this
area.
My
neighbors
and
I
are
all
in
agreement
to
deny
rezoning
and
to
have
the
structure
removed.
I've
done
a
lot
of
research
on
this
property.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
for
me
at
any
time,
I'm
happy
to
answer.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
AF
Hi
I'm
Kathy,
Squires
I'm,
the
mother
of
Courtney
kozelsk
and
she
and
I
own
the
property
at
1605,
Chandon
I,
also
him
against
the
rezoning
at
11:50
folly
Road.
Since
the
construction
started,
we've
seen
it
proceed
without
permits,
we
believe
there's
a
possible
building
setback
violation.
We
believe
there's
probably
a
height
violation.
We've
also
seen
the
stop-work
order
issued
and
then
construction
proceeded
on
the
weekends.
AF
These
alone
may
not
be
a
big
deal
when
the
property's
finished,
but
all
these
things
kind
of
say
that
something's
coming
down
the
road,
that's
probably
not
going
to
be
good.
What
we've
been
told
about
this
is
that
it
is
likely
going
to
be
three
units,
but
we
don't
know
three
units
of
what
we
can
manage
change,
but
we
just
have
a
really
I
know.
You
can't
do
rezoning
on
feeling,
but
we
just
have
a
really
bad
feeling
about
this.
AF
X
Hi
good
evening,
council
members
and
mr.
mayor
I'm,
Phil
dust
and
I
live
at
burden.
Creek
Road
on
John's,
Island
and
I
cannot,
for
the
life
of
me
understand
why
mayor
Tec,
Lindbergh
or
any
member
of
the
council
here
would
want
mr.
Gordon
gear
the
champion
and
fill
and
build
development
to
be
on
the
reappointing
to
the
Planning
Commission
I've
been
prison
at
Planning
Commission
meetings
when
mister
gears
told
the
audience
that
it's
not
the
job
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
deal
with
flooding
or
keeping
people
safe.
X
It's
their
job
simply
to
make
sure
the
rules
are
followed
by
an
applicant
and
under
his
watchful
eyes.
Since
1997,
the
Planning
Commission
has
overseen
the
destruction
of
James
and
John's
islands
and
West
Ashley
through
the
unbridled
construction
of
fill
and
build
housing
developments.
This
must
stop
our
present
mayor,
Jon
Jaclyn
Berg
recognizes
flooding
as
an
existential
problem,
and
the
city
is
spending
over
a
million
dollars
on
studies
alone.
X
So
why
would
the
top
elected
public
official
of
the
city,
who
takes
responsibility
for
inviting
the
Dutch
dialogues
to
Charleston
to
help
with
our
flooding
problems,
actively
support
the
reappointment
of
mr.
Phil
and
bill
gordon
gear
to
the
city
planning
commission?
What
kind
of
mayor
talks
out
of
both
sides
of
his
mouth
and
continues
to
actively
support
the
destruction
of
the
fair
city
he
governs
over
the
welfare
of
its
citizens?
X
It
sure
would
be
nice
to
have
a
mayor
and
city
council
who
give
two
hoots
about
the
people
that
live
here
rather
than
profiting
developers,
because
the
only
thing
to
do
is
to
take
heart.
That
election
day
is
not
too
far
off
and
I'd
like
to
submit
that
a
pound
of
prevention.
An
ounce
of
prevention
is
worth
a
pound
of
cure.
So
I
really
believe
that
this
man
should
not
be
reappointed
to
the
Planning
Commission.
X
He
is
essentially
the
devil
incarnate
when
it
comes
to
development
and
Phil
and
Bill,
and
all
of
you
that
have
been
privy
to
the
Dutch
dialogues
know
that
that's
one
of
the
principal
causes
for
urbanization
caused
flooding
in
this
city
and
within
this
area,
and
it
has
to
stop
oh
by
the
way,
if
you're
interested
I
have
the
Lowcountry
declaration,
if
you'd
like
to
sign
it,
I
have
it
with
me:
I'd
be
happy
honored
to
have
anybody
sign
it.
Thank
you.
AG
Hello,
thank
you
for
your
service
and
I'm
here
to
oppose
the
planning
Commissioner
reappointment
on
11
November,
the
15th
of
2017.
This
trusted
servant
laughed
at
your
taxpaying
constituents
and
asked
us
to
temper
our
opposition
to
a
maximum
density
development
in
a
high
flood
zone.
Some
of
the
properties
contiguous
are
in
a
V
flood
zone
and
are
suffering
already
from
so
much
impervious
surface
additional
impervious
surface
on
Central
Park
Road.
This
planning
Commissioner
pressured
a
fellow
commissioner
to
vote
in
favor
of
the
development.
AG
She
said
she
couldn't
sleep
at
night
if
she
voted
in
favor
with
so
much
public
opposition.
Please
don't
take
my
word
for
this.
Please
listen
to
the
audio
script
and
please
listen
to
the
news
piece
that
was
covered
by
Colby,
Satterfield
I,
think
she's
with
channel
5,
and
you
know
this
caused
a
lot
of
civil
unrest
that
night
there's
still
people
who
shake
about
it,
that
the
way
that
the
public
was
so
disregard
and
when
we,
when
we
remember
it,
it's
hard
it's
hard
to
listen
to
it.
AG
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Caroline
Brandner,
131,
Spring,
Street
and
I
work
as
the
land,
water
and
Wildlife
project
manager
for
the
coastal
conservation
league.
First
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
the
amendments
that
you
all
will
consider
to
the
environmentally
responsible
packaging
and
products
ordinance.
I
we've
worked
in
almost
all
of
the
ordinances
in
the
region,
and
I
will
say
that
the
amendments
are
clarifying
amendments,
as
we
understand
them
to
help
support
businesses
and
retailers
to
understand
how
to
comply
and
what
they
need
to
be
doing.
U
Mount
Pleasant
has
passed
it
I
think
Charleston
County
is
also
considering
it,
so
it
certainly
does
support
a
regional,
consistent
approach,
but
I
also
want
to
say
that
having
worked
on
all
these
ordinances,
the
city
of
Charleston
has
put
the
most
effort
forward
to
working
with
local
businesses
and
to
working
with
residents
to
ensure
that
everyone
is
brought
along
with
the
ordinance
to
make
sure
that
the
policy
is
not
just
policy.
It
is
combined
with
outreach
and
collaboration.
U
The
conservation
league
is
on
the
task
force
with
that
Katie
McCain
is
very
successfully
running
to
help
support
that
transition.
We've
helped
with
getting
the
grants
that
will
provide
business,
roundtables
and
community
workshops
and
reusable
bags
to
those
that
need
them,
and
the
task
force
is
just
doing
a
really
great
job,
Katie's
doing
a
wonderful
job.
So
we
are
excited
to
continue
supporting
you
through
this
and
and
certainly
support
continued
collaboration
with
retailers
and
businesses
to
help
make
sure
that
transition
and
implementation
are
successful.
Thank
you
guys.
So
much
I
appreciate
it.
AH
Good
evening
Council,
my
name
is
Tommy
Doyle
of
John's
Island
here
tonight,
couple
of
hats
coming
a
carriage,
Works
downtown
my
family's
owned
and
operated
that
now
for
almost
40
years.
I'm
here
representing
cares,
which
is
a
group
of
carriage
operators,
three
of
the
five
carriage
companies
in
Charleston.
It's
a
work
group
that
we
have
here
to
thank
you
guys
for
getting
this
open.
So
quick.
Last
week
we
were
closed
for
five
days
and
my
company
alone
has
80
employees
and
for
you
guys
to
get
us
out
there
in
five
days.
AH
That
was
a
great
job
by
the
liveability
and
tourism
office
to
get
us
up
and
going
on
Saturday.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
I'm
here
tonight
to
ask
for
counsel
and
the
mayor
to
consider
deferring
section
M
number
ten,
it's
a
requirement
for
reporting
of
accidents.
Our
group
isn't
necessarily
opposed
to
it.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
tweaked
just
a
little
bit
with
a
couple
of
tweaks
I
think
if
the
city
could
get
what
they
want,
which
is
the
accountability
for
reporting
the
accidents.
AH
A
A
Appointments,
that's
fine.
Can
I
hear
a
motion
okay,
so
there
are
two
folks
nominated
for
reappointment.
Mr.
Gordon
Gere
miss
Angie
Johnson.
They
both
now
completed
their
state
requirements
for
continuing
education.
They'll
just
call
the
question
on
mr.
gear.
First,
all
in
favor
on
reappointing
mr.
gear,
please
say
aye
hi
any
opposed.
Z
K
A
A
AI
You
mayor
hi,
everyone
real
quick
recap
of
the
resiliency
and
sustainability
advisory
committee
meeting
on
August
8th.
They
were
8
of
13
members
present.
The
first
topic
was
the
Dutch
dialogues
and
Mark
Wilbert
gave
a
review
of
the
entire
week
and
recapped
all
the
efforts
and
everyone's
looking
forward
to
the
final
report.
Presentation
on
September
26.
All
those
invitations
should
have
gone
out
to
City
Council
already.
AI
Another
topic
we
discussed
was
tie-dye
and
we
had
our
master
GIS
experts,
Robert
Huck
and
Emma
Paz,
who
gave
a
little
presentation
on
the
new
web
app,
which
is
called
tie-dye.
That's
in
pilot
testing
phases
right
now,
and
basically
it
shows
you,
the
rain
and
tide
information
for
the
next
four
days
in
a
succinct,
little
place,
that's
mobile
on
your
phone.
AI
And
then
we
talked
about
single-use
plastics
I
gave
an
update
on
on
the
plastic
discussion
and,
as
promised
we
pursued,
we
pursued
grant
funding
to
support
a
transition
program
that
would
better
help
residents
and
businesses
adapt
to
the
new
regulations.
I
was
pleased
to
report
that
Charleston
received
a
thirty
five
thousand
dollar
grant
to
do
just
this,
no
match
is
required
and
we
are
working
on
that
grant
with
the
plastic
transition
task
force
and
Caroline
is
helping
a
lot
with
that.
AI
We
have
25,000
dedicated
to
residents
and
a
reusable
bag,
giveaway
and
community
education
workshops,
and
we
have
10,000
dedicated
to
support
businesses
with
signage
and
roundtable
discussions,
and
then
finally,
we
talked
about
some
clarity
suggestions
for
the
ordinance
we,
the
city,
receives
some
feedback
and
requests
to
clarify
a
few
of
the
exemptions.
Just
so,
businesses
could
better
understand
the
code.
These
suggestions
are
consistent
with
Mount
Pleasant,
who
adopted
them
earlier
this
year
and
Charleston
County
is
considering
them
also
as
you
as
we
have
done.
AI
All
along
adoption
of
these
will
keep
our
ordinance
consistent
with
others
in
the
region,
which
is
important
to
say,
and
the
and
the
committee
reviewed
the
clarification
requests
and
they
unanimously
voted
to
some
advance
them
to
City
Council
for
their
review
and
consideration,
and
that
ordinance
is
before
you
tonight
and
next
on.
The
agenda
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
Katie,
thank
you
for
your
efforts,
particularly
those
regarding
resiliency
and
a
review
of
the
green
plan,
initiatives
that
that
could
benefit
our
city
and
climate
change
in
the
future.
Thank
you
so
much.
We
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
revise
our
plastic
banned
packaging
ordinance
to
bring
it
in
I,
guess,
concert
with
Mount,
Pleasant
and
other
surrounding
jurisdictions
and
upon
the
recommendations
of
some
in
the
retail
industry.
AC
And
actually,
I'm,
sorry
that
I
didn't
speak
up.
I
did
want
to
thank
miss
McCain
for
yeah,
just
her
amazing
enthusiasm
and
energy
for
everything
that
she's
bringing
to
us,
as
as
the
future
I
think
for
how
citizens
can
really
engage
with
us,
as
the
Dutch
consultant
spoke
to
us
that
evening,
it's
like
every
drop
of
water
counts,
and
so
we're
in
the
process
of
you
know,
I,
think
bringing
ourselves
and
and
into
a
new
era
of
thinking
like
that.
AC
We
all
know
how
to
recycle,
but
we
don't
really
think
about
capturing
every
drop
of
water
before
it
hits
the
street,
as
mr.
fountain
would
love
for
us
to
do.
I
know
and
and
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
I'm
looking
forward
to
the
collaboration
that
miss
McCain
is
going
to
bring
to
our
neighborhoods
in
order
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
rain
gardens
and
how
we
can
all
be
installing
those
things
on
our
own.
Do
you
like
to
brag
mr.
AC
AC
A
You
any
discussion
on
the
ordinance
regarding
modification
to
the
plastic
ban,
hearing,
none
all
in
favor
of,
say,
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
thanks
again,
mr.
king
so
yeah,
yes,
sir
mr.
Gregory,
yes,
sir,
what
staff
is
doing
is
going
through
the
green
plan.
It's
about
ten
years
old
was
never
formally
adopted
by
council
and
I.
Guess
we're
pulling
out
those
things
that
we
feel
are
still
relevant,
that
could
be
inactive
in
the
city
of
Charleston
and
more
formal
recommendations
will
be
coming
to
the
resiliency
committee
in
in
the
near
future.
A
G
A
Z
G
AA
AA
G
S
Mr.
Lewis
I
thought
we
we
really
hash
this
out
several
years
ago
and
I
thought
it
was
pretty
clear
that
ways
and
means
and
city
council
meetings
you
had
to
be
here.
You
couldn't
call
it,
but
I
know
that
used
to
have
a
lot
of
like
a
TNT
meeting
and
a
real
estate
committee
meeting,
where
we
would
only
have
one
or
two
items
on
the
agenda
and
the
the
real-estate
committee
meeting
I
know
was
on
a
Monday
used
to
be
on
a
Monday.
S
S
Obviously
the
recorder
had
to
be
the
clerk
of
the
count
of
the
secretary
had
to
be
there
in
the
meeting
and
the
public
was
invited
also,
but
there
only
maybe
one
or
two
items,
maybe
a
couple
annexations
and
for
those
that
you
know
live
out
and
about
the
boondocks
or
just
a
little
bit
of
West
Ashley,
you
know
to
drive
downtown,
find
a
parking
place,
spend
a
minute
or
two
in
a
meeting
and
go
home.
It
made
a
lot
more
sense
to
have
haven't
communicated.
You
know
by
telephone
to
have
it.
S
G
G
M
Z
AB
AB
People
from
Mount
Pleasant
use,
September,
Clark,
North,
Charleston,
Charleston,
Berkeley,
County,
Joe,
Chester
County
and
the
reason
I
say
that
our
largest
for
the
city
of
Charleston
employment
centers,
would
be
the
hospital
district.
So
Medical
University
wrote
the
st.
Francis,
the
VA
hospital
and
obviously
some
people
actually
work
at
the
citizen.
So
until
in
the
College
of
Charleston,
it's
a
vital
artery.
We
ought
to
ask
our
allies
to
help
us
support
getting
this
funded.
Now,
when
we
found
out
about
the
deficit
on
the
September
clock
spring
Fishburn
project,
including
the
mayor,
we
all
were
disappointed.
AB
Now,
one
of
the
things
I'll
never
forget,
councilman,
Lewis
and
Mitchell
said
154
million.
We
got
to
finish
it
and
counsel,
came
in
and
took
a
very
hard
vote
on
the
drainage
funds
for
the
next
five
years,
going
to
fund
September
clock
spring
Fishburne's
drainage
project.
What
that
meant
is
that
most
of
the
drainage
projects,
WestEd
Ashley,
James,
Allen
and
John's
Island
that
we're
looking
forward
to
funding
the
drainage
fund.
That's
not
gonna
happen
for
five
years.
AB
That's
a
huge
sacrifice.
We've
got
projects
that
Davis
employed
study
says
since
1984.
It
needs
to
be
done
and
keep
in
mind
most
of
the
drainage
project.
West
Ashley
James,
Allen
and
John's
Island
a
pretty
much
gravity
floor
with
the
exception
of
the
Church
Creek
project.
So
we
take
that
funding
away
for
five
years.
We
basically
telling
the
better
part
of
the
better
part
of
ninety
thousand
to
a
hundred
thousand.
Our
citizens
wait
five
years
now.
AB
If
we
were
able
to
get
additional
funding
for
September
o'clock
spring
fresh
breath,
then
that
puts
the
drainage
projects
West
Ashley
James
Island
in
John's
Island
back
home,
not
only
back
on
the
drawing
board,
but
with
funding.
It's
just
an
opportunity
that
I
think
we
need
to
call
in.
We
all
joined
at
the
hip
in
this
tri-county
area.
We
need
to
ask
our
allies
for
support
and
I
think
they
would
I
think
they
would
give
it.
AB
I've
talked
to
a
couple
of
people
on
council,
God
I've
talked
to
a
couple
of
people
on
County,
Council
I.
Think
the
the
I
talked
to
County
Council
say
they
eagerly
vote
to
support
something
like
this.
So
that's
why
I
brought
it
before
you,
my
colleagues.
Hopefully
we
can
support
this
and
and
they
get
a
little
support
up
on
our
application.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
AC
AC
A
A
AB
Madam
clerk,
you
know
when
it
comes
to
you
I
gotta
shoot
straight
as
chairman
of
that
committee.
I
didn't
take
a
vote.
We
had
a
we
had
a
discussion
on.
We
actually
had
a
hearty
discussion,
so
I
was
thinking
that
it
was
going
to
be
on
the
City
Council's
agenda
so
separate
from
being
on
the
committee
report,
so
that
I
won't
take
total
responsibility.
For
that.
That's,
not
your
listen.
I
am
NOT.
Gonna
get
the
clerk
upset.
AB
A
K
AB
And
there
was
one
other
aspect
that
a
committee
report
that
we
had
a
healthy
discussion
on
was
a
task
force
to
be
created
for
the
church,
Creek
drainage
basin,
good
discussion
on
that
talked
in
terms
of
recruiting
some
talent
from
the
area,
engineers,
people
in
development,
etc
very
much
to
serve
just
like
on
this
hotel
task
force.
Thank
you
now.
The
number
is
supposed
to
come
back
to
the
committee
meeting
them
at
the
next
committee
meeting.
Are
we
gonna
vote
on
that
I?
AB
Think
councilman
Griffin
proposed
12
people,
13
thirteen
people,
yeah
and
I-
know
we
so
that's
going
to
be
coming
back
so
be
prepared
for
that.
Maybe
if
you
all
are
thinking
in
terms
of
I'll
put
some
thought
processes
into
who
could
serve
from
your
particular
area.
For
example,
councilman
Schiele
up
councilman,
Wagner,
councilman
Griffin
and
everybody
on
council,
because
that
church
weak
base
is
important
to
all
of
us.
AB
A
Councilmember
wearing,
given
our
discussion
yesterday
and
as
I
reported
to
you
very
briefly,
I
spoke
to
my
nephew
today,
who's
the
county
auditor,
and
we
discussed
the
information
that
the
county
has
regarding
assessed
value
and,
in
fact,
even
though
they
don't
highly
publicized
it.
They
do
keep
market
value.
Information
on
properties,
so
I
would
suggest
to
you
that
we
let
my
nephew
bring
us
more
information
at
our
next
committee
meeting
before
we
take
action
on
this
matter,
because
I
do
believe
the
county
will
be
able
to
help
us
on
this.
AB
It's
me
I
think
that's
a
good
information,
but
there
are
two
aspects
to
this
market
that
when
the
county
gets
when
they
do,
that
is
the
assessment
every
five
to,
in
some
cases,
seven
years,
you're
right.
They
do
an
appraisal
and
then
that's
a
cap
on
what
can
go
to
the
assessed
value.
You
and
I
discuss
that,
and
then
they
have
a
market
value,
that's
basically
to
keep
on
the
books.
But
again
when
our
staff
determines
substantial
damage
right
now,
anyway,
they
have
been
going
to
the
assessed
fact.
Mr.
fountain
gives
some
great
information
yesterday.
AB
That
is
basically
I,
think
four
different
methods
that
the
city
can
use
to
determine
that
valuation
of
of
substantial
damage,
but
in
the
meantime,
doing
that
five
to
seven
years
the
homeowner
needs
a
way
to
validate
market
value
in
the
event
that
there's
a.
Let's
put
it
like
this.
If
the
city
told
me
my
home
has
substantial
damage
and
they
use
even
the
market
value
from
the
county,
the
county
doesn't
go
out
every
six
months
and
do
appraisals
on
all
the
properties
in
the
county.
AB
They
do
that
every
five
to
seven
years
or
when
a
property
is
Sol
or
changed
hands
which
leaves
out
tens
of
thousands
of
homes.
So
I
agree
in
one
of
the
healthy
discussions
we
had
yesterday
was
improving
the
methodology
of
our
staff
before
they
even
make
that
determination
of
what
is
substantial
damage,
in
other
words,
right
now,
using
an
obsolete
number
as
the
assessed
value.
AB
AB
I
Mr.
mayor
so
and
as
mrs.
Calvo
mullerian
pointed
out,
we
did
receive
a
good
report
from
mr.
fountain
as
to
what
the
female
requirements
are.
My
only
concern
with
the
proposed
amendment
is
to
good
effect
and
they
have
on
those
four
requirements.
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
this
to
take
away
from
the
female
requirements,
and
maybe
you
could
elaborate
on
that,
mr.
fountain
as
to
what
that
may
or
may
not
do
I
don't
want
to
have
it
and
an
unintended
consequence
on
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
here.
So.
AJ
AJ
So
the
first
option,
generally
used
on
our
end,
is
the
assessment,
which
is
the
first
two
famous
options
assessed
value
of
the
property.
This
would
only
be
triggered
in
the
event
that
the
assessed
value
was
sorry,
the
damage
or
improvement
we're
within
more
than
50%
of
the
current
assessed
value.
That's
what
would
trigger
us
saying
you
appear
to
have
a
substantial
improvement
or
substantial
damage.
You
know
we'd
be
required
to
provide
that
appraisal,
so
it
still
uses
the
assessed
value
in
that
respect.
AJ
The
other
two
options
are
the
the
actual
cash
value,
which
is
basically
a
construction
with
depreciation
type
approach.
We
don't
have
that
specified
in
the
ordinance
right
now.
We
do
say
that
it
would
be
an
appraisal
that
would
be
specified,
so
I
would
defer
to
legal
on
that,
but
I
believe
that
would
eliminate.
That
is
a
potential
option
and
the
the
final
option,
just
for
clarity,
is
using
a
like
a
local
qualified
official
city
official
to
make
an
estimate
that
that
that's
intended
to
be
like
an
option
of
last
resort.
AJ
It's
intended
to
be
only
during
major
disasters.
Fema
says
you
can
technically
only
use
that
we
went
back
through
all
the
detailed
documentation
that
FEMA
has
you're
only
supposed
to
use
that
if
none
of
the
other
options
are
available,
it's
meant
to
be
able
to
quickly
allow
people
to
rebuild
in
like
a
mass
disaster.
So
it's
it's
something
they're
saying
there's
just
not
enough
accuracy
and
that
for
that
to
be
your
go-to
protocol,
so
it
does
take
us
back
to
those
three
again.
AJ
We
would
be
using
the
assessed
value
to
make
the
initial
determination
to
say
whether
or
not
an
appraisal
is
needed.
You
would
then
this.
This
would
require
the
property
owner
to
do
the
appraisal
where
right
now
that
is
an
option.
They
have
the
option
to
an
appraisal
if
they
want
to
challenge
the
determination
but
they're
not
obligated
to.
However,
it's
not
codified
that
way
in
the
ordinance.
I
I
think
I'm
aware
that
your
as
we
discussed
yesterday
and
I
agree
with
what
your
the
intent
with
this
is
to
give
the
property
owner
as
many
tools
available
to
the
property
owner
to
make
sure
that
that
problem
is
not
shortchanged
in
the
event
of
a
catastrophic
event
to
their
home,
either
by
wind,
rain
or
flooding.
And
so
what
I
don't
want
us
to
do
is
to
inadvertently
backdoor
it
into
something
more
restrictive
and
that's
why
I
might
concern
with
the
ordinances
in
Maine
and
that
in
effect
have
that.
I
A
AJ
City,
there
tend
to
be
only
a
few
substantial
damage
situations.
It
does
happen
more
frequently
substantial
improvements
where
people
are
renovating
houses.
Typically,
if
you're
flipping
a
house,
it's
pretty
easy
to
get
above
the
50%
threshold.
That
is
one
of
the
concerns
to
make
sure
whatever
option
we
pegged
it
right.
We
don't
sort
of.
A
Peter
reports
to
me
here,
as
we
were
discussed
in
the
county,
has
two
values
for
most
real
properties,
a
market
value
and
a
capped
value.
He
calls
it
the
cap
value.
The
cap
value
is
a
value
we
use
for
taxation
until
recently,
the
cap
value
was
the
most
visible
value.
As
seen
on
the
county,
GIS
and
tax
system
website.
The
county
has
recently
changed
to
make
the
market
value
more
visible.
Gis
will
now
direct
to
the
tax
system
page
that
shows
the
market
value.
It's
important
to
note.
A
The
market
value
is
the
value
from
the
last
appraisal
by
the
assessor's
office.
This
could
be
based
on
the
property,
changing
hands
or
via
of
reassessment
either
way.
The
value
is
most
likely
not
as
recent
as
anything
a
private
appraiser,
admittedly,
would
be
able
to
provide.
It
is,
however,
and
if
this
is
the
important
thing
that
I
think
would
qualify
the
number
for
it
is,
however,
an
official
appraisal
from
a
governmental
body
and
I
think
that
was
one
of
the
requirements
of
FEMA.
A
So
if
we
could,
of
course,
I
wouldn't
mind
having
two
more
weeks
just
to
dig
into
this
a
little
bit,
but
I
would
respectfully
ask
that
if
you're
gonna
pass
something
tonight
to
put
the
based
on
the
county's
appraised
value
of
a
structure
or
give
the
citizen
the
option
of
ordering
his
own
private
appraisal.
Not
to
for
somebody
to
do
that.
Yes,.
AB
AB
So
right
if
we're
operating
off
obsolete
numbers-
and
it
is
not
the
normal
occurrence
num
that
I'm
intimidated
by
it
is
the
storm
that
stayed
50
or
60
miles
off
the
course
and
would
open
off
the
coast
all
right,
and
we
have
a
situation
like
Hugo,
where
virtually
everybody
we're
able
to
fix
up
in
place
and
right
now
we
keep
going
back
to
that
assessed
value.
We
use
that
assessed
value.
We
will
knowingly
accelerate
on
the
disaster,
the
people
that
will
hit
the
substantial
damage
threshold
unintentionally
with
obsolete
number,
so
get
it
I.
AB
AB
S
A
B
B
B
A
A
Any
discussion
on
that
all
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
next
is
our
Committee
on
ways
and
means
before
we
vote
on
approval.
I
want
to
thank
the
patience
of
general
Colby
Broadwater
and
his
CFO
Jay
Waddell,
and
their
attorney
Brian
Hellman
I
really
didn't
feel
it
was
necessary
for
y'all
to
stay,
but
you
stayed
till
the
to
the
final
approval
and
thank
you
for
your
efforts
with
the
College
of
the
building
arts.
It's
a
remarkable
asset
to
our
city,
and
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
with
that.
L
A
Right
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
Thank
you
so
our
bills
for
third
reading,
as
it's
still
deferred,
we
were
going
to
have
our
workshop
last
week,
which
got
you
know
canceled
due
to
the
storm,
so
we'll
reschedule
that
soon
bills.
Up
for
second
reading
I
think
council
member
Jackson
wants
to
address
just
number
one.
AC
Thank
you.
Since
we
first
saw
this
rezoning
request,
the
ownership
has
changed.
We
were
not
notified
of
a
new
owner.
The
property
has
come
under
a
huge
amount
of
construction,
as
the
neighbors
were
representing
to
us
during
the
petition
period
tonight,
without
a
building
permit,
they
have
their
second
stop
work
order,
as
of
today.
The
structure
that
they
are
building
without
a
building
permit
has
never
been
evaluated
for
a
site
plan,
but
it
is
obvious
by
my
personal
observation
and
photography
that
they
have
violated
the
back
setback
from
the
back
lot
line.
AC
Someone
made
a
huge
assumption
that
we
were
going
to
give
them
a
CT,
Zone
and
they've
jumped
the
gun
on
that
and
I
do
feel
like
the
neighborhood
has
appealed
to
us,
and
we
owe
it
to
the
zoning
that's
in
place
and
the
master
planning
that
was
done
for
this
whole
section
of
Pali
Road,
which
includes
a
lot
of
town
of
James
Island
properties
that
are
also
either
residential
or
residential
office,
and
just
the
peace
of
mind
that
we
need
to
have
unfollowing
Road
about
redevelopment.
We
need
to
deny
this
rezoning
tonight.
Thank
you.
We.
C
C
I
mean
it's
still
a
second
reading,
so
I
want
to
get
some
clarification
from
the
pen.
Take
it.
You
get
some
clarification
on
this
because
it's
a
different
honor,
but
then
we
did
the
second
we
and
I
didn't
know
anything
about
the
second
community.
First
reading
about
anything
someone
else
have
it
now
just
make
sure
that.
L
What
Gavin,
Weber
Jackson
has
told
you
about.
The
change
in
ownership
is
correct
that
that
did
in
fact
occur.
We
don't
track
private
changes.
What
we
take
is
the
owner
at
the
time
that
the
that
the
middle
for
rezoning
is
made
is
the
owner
that
is
processed
and,
of
course,
Zoning
carries
with
the
land.
So
private
ownership
changes
all
the
time.
Then
often
an
owner
will
tee
up
a
rezoning
and
sell
it.
While
it's
in
process
that's
a
common
practice,
but
that
is
correct
with
a
did
change
hands
during
during
this
process.
AA
AA
B
Yeah
we
heard
two
ladies
speak
about
this.
The
neighbors
just
for
a
bit
ago.
I'd
also
spoke
to
them
earlier
and
it
just
looks
to
me
like,
since
they
didn't
bother
to
get
the
building
permits
and
decided
to
just
do
whatever
they
wanted
to.
It
seemed
to
me
we
ought
to
be
out
there
with
the
wrecking
ball,
helping
them
tear
it
down.
I
mean
that.
Would
that
would
seem
logical
to
me,
but
I
I.
Just
think
that
simple,
no,
it
worked
for
me.
So
I,
just
I,
don't
know
what
happens
if
you
do.
B
AC
AB
AD
L
So
I
would
also
defer
to
mr.
heo,
as
well
as
to
legal,
unless,
if
someone's
in
violation
of
zoning,
for
example,
is
set
back
or
if
they've
done
something
that
violates
Building
Code
or
in
var
any
of
those
kinds
of
things,
we
could
place
the
stop-work
order,
Avenger
that
goes
to
livability
court.
We
can
find
them
and
we
often
have
made
requests
via
livability
court,
which
is
a
criminal
court,
of
course,
that
properties
be
totally
demolished
or
returned
to
their
original
state.
That
kind
of
thing
does
happen
on
a
somewhat
regular
basis.
AB
L
L
A
AD
AD
Z
AC
A
K
A
K
Z
A
S
The
motion
to
defer
I
approve
of
it
and
I,
don't
want
to
say
why
I
want
to
proceed,
approved
or
deferred.
Rather,
when
you
read
that
coordinates,
it
says
the
driver
of
a
vehicle
or
licensed
tour
guide.
Gavin
governed
by
Tourism
Board,
is
involved
in
any
accident,
slash
occurrence,
resulting
in
injury
to
or
death
of
a
person
or
animal
or
to
property
that
you've
got
to
immediately
notify
emergency
service.
So
one
of
those
carriages
runs
into
a
vehicle.
You've
got
to
call
an
ambulance
and
you
got
to
call
the
fire
department
for
that.
S
That
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
me.
So
it
seems
to
me,
like
I,
understand,
if
you
injured
an
animal
I,
don't
sure
why
you
call
an
ambulance
for
an
animal,
but
maybe
the
fire
department,
but
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
a
little
bit
of
work
done
on
that
I.
Don't
think
they're
there.
If
there's
a
problem
I
just
think
it
needs
a
bit
of
work
that
all
that.
H
S
H
The
carriages
and
vehicles
are
issued
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
operate
on
the
city
streets,
so
they're
basically
legally
bound
to
notify
us
if
they're
involved
in
an
accident
with
the
vehicle,
because
there
are
certain
criteria
for
the
ordinance
if
a
vehicle
is
involved
in
an
accident.
The
reason
but
they're.
AA
Member
Griffin,
we
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
some
of
the
pros
and
longevity,
if
some
of
these
ordinances
from
years
and
years
ago
we
can
clean
them
up
and
that's
what
we're
here
to
do,
and
we
heard
from
mr.
Doyle
and
we've
heard
from
mr.
eto,
who
does
an
excellent
job,
that,
if
that
we
can
make
this
very
simple
and
we've
got
to
take
the
ambiguity
out
of
these
ordinances
because
it
creates
what
I
think
a
situation
where
you
know
say
well
what?
If
this,
what?
AA
If
that,
let's
take
that
out,
but
what
I'm
really
I'm
kind
of
glad
this
is
being
brought
up
today,
because
I
don't
really
know
what
goes
on
at
the
Tourism
Commission.
We
don't
get
a
report
from
the
Tourism
Commission.
They
bring
ordinances
to
us.
We
had
the
the
sustainability
committee
comes
and
gives
us
a
report
every
quarter
and
brings
us
ordinances.
Why
does
it
Tourism
Commission?
Do
that?
Why
doesn't
it
report
to
a
committee?
We
need
to
know
what
goes
on
anybody
who
brings
ordinances
on
a
regular
basis
to
us.
AA
AA
K
A
AA
We
have,
and
if
we
we
have
to
investigate
it
ourselves
and
that's
not
right,
every
other
committee,
that
brings
us
a
an
ordinance
we
know
what's
going
on.
We
know
what
the
vote
was.
Did
they
support
it?
We
don't
know
anything
about
this
one,
it's
it's.
We
figure
it
out
on
our
own
and
you
know
we
can
make
jokes.
You
know
about
him,
giving
a
report.
That's
fine,
but
I'm,
just
saying
I'm
not
voting
on
things
that
I
don't
know
anything
about.
That's
all
I'm
saying!
Thank
you,
sir.
S
A
B
A
Right,
we
got
a
motion,
any
discussion,
all
in
favor
of
11
and
12
second
reading,
please
say
aye
any
opposed
now
for
third
reading
and
ratification.
Second,
all
right,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
and
he
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
council,
member
wearing,
wants
to
be
recognized.
We
have
miscellaneous.
AB
AB
Some
that
will
bring
up
from
the
floor
I've
had
discussions
with
a
lot
of
people
in
Maryville,
nave
Maryville,
a
Schlegel
little
associations
that
area
that
both
councilman
Lewis
and
I
represent
councilmember
Lewis
I
talked
to
the
chairman
of
our
Recreation
Committee
we've
been
calling
the
bend
the
street
park
location,
the
Bendis
tree
park
temporarily,
and
this
neighborhood
association
has
not
had
voted
not
only
once
twice
but
three
times
for
it
to
be
named.
Carl
Richardson
Park,
so
I'd
like
to
put
that
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
council
meeting
I.