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City of Charleston City Council Meeting, 1/10/2023
B
C
B
D
Let
us
pray
our
dear
heavenly
father,
we
thank
you
for
a
new
year.
We
ask
that
you
bless
his
Council,
our
city,
employees
and
the
people
we
serve
Lord,
as
we
start
this
year
with
a
renewed
hope.
We
thank
you
for
all
that
you've
done
for
each
of
us
and
for
the
City
of
Charleston
Lord.
Let
us
release
any
bitterness
or
frustrations
of
the
past
year.
Let
us
move
forward,
shine
your
light
through
us
and
give
us
wisdom.
May
we
make
a
difference
for
the
City
of
Charleston,
For,
Your,
Glory
and
your
purposes.
D
We
pray
for
your
spirit
to
lead
us
in
this
new
year
guide
our
decisions,
open
doors
that
need
to
be
opened
and
close,
those
that
need
to
be
shut
Lord.
We
thank
you
for
a
new
opportunity
to
be
all
that
you
want
us
to
be
for
it's
in
your
holy
and
precious
name.
We
pray,
amen,
amen,
I,
pledge
allegiance
to
the
flag
of
the
United
States
of
America
and.
B
Thank
you
kindly
council
member
sheilio,
great
prayer
to
start
the
new
year.
I
wish
my
good
wishes
to
everyone
for
a
happy,
successful,
prosperous,
2023.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
good
year.
I
do
want
to
inform
everyone.
I
know
most
of
you
all
have
been
here
before,
but
in
the
most
unlikely
event
that
we
would
need
to
evacuate
the
building.
B
We
just
have
these
two
doors
here:
exit
doors
from
the
main
chamber
in
that
one
exit
door
over
there
and,
if
that
were
to
occur,
I'd
ask
not
to
use
the
elevator
but
use
the
two
stairs
going
down,
and
then
we
only
got
one
stair
going
out
the
front
door.
So
that's
the
way
out,
just
in
case
the
most
unlikely
event
we
were
called
to
get
out
of
the
building.
So
we
have
a
few
presentations
and
recognitions
tonight.
B
So
I
will
proceed
with
council's
forbearance
with
number
two,
which
is
the
recognition
of
our
2022
mayor,
Pro,
tem,
council,
member
and
mayor
Pro,
tem
Carl
Brady.
Please
come
forward
and
join
me
and
I
have
a
little
presentation
for
him
commemorating
his
service
over
last
year.
I
know
it's
been
said.
B
H
I
I
wasn't
prepared
to,
but
I
do
want
to
thank
mayor
tecklenberg
for
letting
me
be
mayor,
Pro
Tim
this
year.
It's
always
good
to
get
to
go
around
the
city
and
just
kind
of
see
the
vibrancy,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
us
are
kind
of
in
our
own
districts
and
and
kind
of
in
the
day-to-day
grind.
With
that,
but
being
able
to
go
all
over
the
city,
you
see
the
vibrancy.
I
got
really
good
at
cutting
ribbons.
H
B
O
so
I
see
Chief
Reynolds
is
here,
but
it's
who
we've
finished
this
theme
on
out
I'd
like
to
ask
council
member
Jason
sackrons
to
join
me
up
here.
According
to
our
current
code,
the
one
position
that
needs
council's
consent
each
year
is
the
appointment
of
the
mayor,
Pro
tem
I
hereby
recommend
to
you
that
we
elect
council
member
sacrament
to
be
mayor.
B
Pro
tem
of
the
City
of
Charleston
this
year,
I
think
he
proved
to
us
all
his
selfless
Act
of
when
we
went
through
our
redistic
redistricting
discussion
and
action
this
year.
What
a
true
servant
and
selfless
servant
he
is
to
our
city
and
without
a
further
Ado.
Could
I
ask
for
Council
a
motion
to
approve
improve
council
member
Sacrament.
As
our
mayor,
Pro
Tem.
We
have
a
motion
and
a
second
any
discussion.
All
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
let
it
record
show
it
was
unanimous.
B
A
B
B
If
I
may
share
the
proclamation
call
on
the
chief
and
then
I'll
call
on
council
member
shade
to
make
a
few
remarks,
whereas
January
9th
2023
is
national
law
enforcement
appreciation
day
and
whereas
national
law
enforcement
appreciation
day
was
created
by
multiple
organizations
just
a
few
years
ago
in
2015
to
highlight
the
benefits,
Law
Enforcement
Officers,
bring
to
our
communities
and
show
our
appreciation
for
their
service,
whereas
the
job
of
a
law
enforcement
officer
can
be
both
challenging
and
dangerous.
Across
the
country.
B
B
J
Wow
I,
look
around
me
and
I
see
the
amazing
people
of
the
Low
Country
generations
of
people.
I
stand
here
in
this
amazing
chamber
and
I
I
believe
that
we
have
a
noble
profession
that
it's
extremely
important.
What
we
do,
how
we
do
it,
why
we
do
it,
how
we
treat
people
with
dignity
and
respect
I,
think
our
profession
has
come
a
long
ways,
but
I
know
that
we
have
a
ways
to
go
and
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
and
I.
J
Just
that's
a
real
mouthful,
all
of
our
partners
that
you
just
mentioned,
but
if
we
could
put
them
all
in
this
room,
we
would
have.
We
talked
about
trying
to
get
more
people
here,
just
to
recognize
all
of
our
partners,
because
we
can't
do
it
without
our
partners.
I
just
spoke
with
Chief
Kee
on
on
my
way
in
here
this
morning
about
some
of
this
afternoon
about
some
important
issues
in
the
port
and
just
other
things
that
are
happening
around
the
state.
J
So
I
stand
here
on
behalf
of
all
of
our
partners
on
behalf
of
the
Charleston
Police
Department,
the
men
and
women
who
come
here
from
all
places.
People
like
to
be
in
Charleston
I'll
tell
you
that
it
makes
recruiting
easier,
not
easy,
but
easier
to
be
in
such
a
great
jurisdiction
with
so
many
great
people,
and
this
type
of
support
is
not
common
everywhere
else
and
I
can
tell
you.
J
It
helps
us
with
our
recruitment,
with
our
retention
to
attract
the
best
and
and
I'm
grateful
for
you
I'm
grateful
this
city
I'm
grateful
for
this
Proclamation,
the
support
that
we
have
from
our
Council
from
our
mayor
from
our
community
from
our
troops,
our
Command
from
all
of
you.
Thank
you
so
much
foreign.
E
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
and
I
just
want
to
follow
up.
I
literally
stumbled
upon
that
yesterday
was
law
enforcement
appreciation
day
and
I
went
back
and
looked
at
the
history
of
this
and
I
was
drafting
this
Proclamation
for
submission
and
I
went
through
all
of
the
local
law
enforcement
agencies
and
I
think
the
chief
has
talked
about
this
on
countless
at
times.
We
cannot
do
this
alone.
It
takes
us
here
in
Council,
the
mayor's
office
and
our
our
partners
from
the
federal
and
the
state
in
the
local
level.
E
E
So
to
take
a
few
moments
out
of
our
busy
day
yesterday,
students
from
Charleston
Catholic
School
came
to
the
police
headquarters
and
handed
out.
Thank
you
notes
to
the
the
chief
and
I
couldn't
hear
their
voices,
but
they
were.
They
told
the
chief
why
they
were
happy
and
why
they
wanted
to
thank
them
for
the
job.
Well
done,
it's
just
an
important
part
of
our
community.
We
received
the
shootings
in
schools
every
day.
E
Now,
unfortunately,
a
six-year-old
shot
a
teacher
the
other
day,
and
so
we
we
know
that
our
lives
are
always
at
risk,
but
we
feel
a
level
of
Safety
and
Security.
We
all
thank
you
all
very
much
for
the
work
that
you
all
do.
Thank
you
all
for
putting
up
with
me
on
these
last
comments,
but
this
is
something
we
just
need
to
do
on
a
yearly
basis.
Thank
you,
Chief.
Thank
you.
B
Have
on
the
agenda
tonight
my
colleagues
under
first
readings
Amendment
to
the
to
the
rules,
as
was
brought
up
at
our
last
city
council
meeting
and
by
virtue
of
our
current
rules.
I
am
submitting
this
to
you
my
recommendations
for
these
committees.
I
will
pledge
to
you
that
when
we
pass,
if
we
pass
any
change
to
the
set
of
rules,
I'll
bring
this
back
to
you
to
get
your
confirmation
on
my
recommendations,
yeah
sure
all
right.
B
K
I
B
L
G
This
is
my
physical
address
right
here:
apartment
of
Treasury
fused,
my
Ig
request
under
the
cares
act
and
arpa
funding,
because
there's
no
measurable
measurement
and
there's
no
measurable
outcomes
offering
cares,
act,
money
and
low
to
Modern
income
communities.
So
this
is
what
I
got
refused
back
as
a
communication
on
December
20th
I
decided
by
the
court
of
appeals,
judge,
Naya
Meyer
ruled
December.
G
22Nd
I
went
into
the
library
under
16,
11
625
trespassing,
the
same
police
officer
came
in
in
a
constant
unhoused
man
addicted
and
hungry:
okay,
December
28th
I'm
on
my
street
Cortlandt
Avenue
and
a
man
I
guess,
I'm
unhoused
as
well
and
I
was
trespassing
in
my
own
neighborhood,
okay,
okay,
under
Hollow
versus
Fitzgerald
1982
is
qualified
immunity,
so
they
didn't
talk
about
qualified
immunity
when
they
gave
the
award
to
the
federal
state
government
ridiculous
use
force
on
black
folk
for
about
100
years.
That
could
happen
to
me
over
the
holidays.
G
House
Bill
3049
at
houseboat,
3050
law
enforcement,
Integrity
Act,
was
not
mentioned.
Okay.
That
means
that
now
you
can
follow
the
record
play
the
select
before
you
had
to
get
it
from
the
police
officer.
The
share
look
a
lawful
jurisdiction
and
the
Attorney
General's
office.
So
now
we
can
directly
file
off
in
points
directly.
C
G
M
M
Good
evening,
mayor
council
members
happy
New,
Year,
happy
2023.,
my
name
is
Lynn
Cool,
J
and
I
live
at
Commodore
Road
Young's
Island
I'm,
a
member
of
kkbe
downtown
and
actively
involved
in
the
Charleston
area.
Justice
Ministry,
along
with
thousands
of
other
community
members
council
member
Greg,
you
represent
my
congregation.
We
hope
that
all
of
you
noticed
tonight
that
we're
feeling
a
little
festive.
We
want
to
kick
the
new
year
off
right
and
we
hope
you
do
too
to
help
you
with
that.
M
We
spent
a
lot
of
time
reflecting
over
what
we
think
should
be
City
councils,
New
Year's
resolutions.
We
want
to
present
those
to
you
tonight
and
hope
you'll
seriously,
consider
adopting
them.
Perhaps
you've
already
made
a
list,
maybe
you've
all
resolved,
to
get
more
sleep
in
2023.
Instead
of
resolving
to
get
more
sleep,
how
about
you
make
decisions
that
make
it
easier
to
sleep
at
night
start
with
correcting
your
mistakes
you've
made
and
continue
to
make
over
Gadsden
Creek?
We
we
have
a
list
there
right
here
of
the
resolutions,
if
you
need
some
help.
I
Happy
New
Year,
my
name
is
Alice
Wakefield
and
I
live
at
137,
Church,
Street
and
active
and
I'm
actively
involved
in
the
Charleston
area.
Justice
Ministry,
another
New
Year's
resolution
is
to
adopt
for
you
it's
instead
of
resolving
to
work
out.
Why
don't
you
work
out
your
relationship
with
your
constituents?
I
And
they
were
your
constituents
are
against
the
filing
of
get
a
filling
in
of
Gadsden
Creek.
Here
are
300
more
postcards,
urging
Council
to
restore
Gadsden
Creek
and
we'll
bring
those
forward
work
out
your
relationship
with
your
constituents
by
working
on
your
courage
to
do
the
right
thing.
Thank
you.
N
These
are
large
hotels
that
bring
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
people
every
single
day
to
this
city,
and
how
are
they
going
to
get
around
at
councilman?
Seekings
would
have
it
his
way
they
would
park
their
cars,
generating
revenue
for
the
city
in
a
local
business
could
bring
them
in
transit
from
one
business
to
another,
and
people
could
experience
this
city
in
a
truly
unique
way.
I
implore
you
please
in
February
release
this
bid,
you
set
forth,
we
would
have
never
started
this.
N
O
Good
evening,
mayor
city
council,
my
name
is
Reese
kimsey
applicant
with
Middleburg
communities.
Regarding
the
Southwick
Drive
rezoning,
we,
the
request,
is
six
units
per
acre
fits
squarely
within
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
for
this
location.
A
four
to
eight
units
per
acre
at
the
last
meeting,
Council
deferred
our
requests
and
asked
that
we
explore
adding
an
affordable
housing
component
to
our
project
plan.
O
As
such,
we
come
forward
tonight
with
an
amended
plan
that
commits
land
and
allowable
density
to
see
Island
Habitat
for
Humanity
at
no
cost
we
commit
to
providing
habitat
with
six
units
of
allowable
density
and
or
one
acre
of
land.
Within
our
plan,
the
area
for
habitat
is
in
the
Northwest
section
of
the
site
and
already
includes
access
via
Road
stub
out
from
Stanwood
drive.
We
have
spoken
with
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
they
are
supportive
of
this
plan.
O
The
Sea
Island
restore
location
is
right
around
the
corner
at
Southwick
Drive,
and
we
strongly
support
and
align
with
their
mission
of
bringing
people
together
to
build
homes,
community
and
hope.
We
are
a
local
developer
and
long-term
Community
partner
that
has
invested
in
the
prosperity
of
Johns,
Island
and
Charleston
as
a
whole.
Thank
you.
K
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council,
my
name
is
Al
McMahon
I'm,
a
development
manager
with
Beach
company
320,
Broad,
Street,
Suite,
600,
Charleston,
29401.,
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council
I'm
here
tonight,
just
to
kind
of
tack
on
to
the
law
enforcement
appreciation.
Sentiments
of
record
earlier
and
and
Israel
are
aware.
There
was
a
bad
fire
I
think
at
our
Stone
of
Oaks
project
that
we
are
all
aware
the
evening
of
November
30th
and
as
bad
as
it
was.
We
lost
two
buildings.
K
It
could
have
been
a
wild
horse
if
it
wasn't
for
the
First
Responders,
except
for
one
for
the
City
of
Charleston
fire
department
and
the
St
John's
fire
department.
There
was
excuse
me
one
fireman
injured.
He
had
heat
exhaustion.
Thankfully
he
was
okay.
We
certainly
recognized
his
sacrifice
and
everybody's
putting
their
themselves
In
Harm's
Way,
so
I
want
to
thank
the
city.
Thank
the
First
Responders
thank
law
enforcement.
K
P
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
Stacy
Bailey
I
live
at
39,
Alberta
Avenue
on
the
upper
peninsula
and
first
off
I
want
to
thank
the
city
and
the
police
department,
the
scdot
and
our
elected
officials
and
Charleston
moves
for
being
so
responsive
and
really
great
Partners
in
helping
us
solve
these
safety
concerns.
We
have
on
the
upper
peninsula.
P
We're
experiencing
really
high
heavy
traffic
volumes,
especially
in
the
morning
in
the
afternoon,
and
the
areas
around
King
and
Rutledge
walking
to
and
from
school,
and
these
cars
are
moving
really
fast
and
I've
had
personally
close
calls
with
my
really
young
children
and
council.
Member
Sacrament
has
been
a
great
asset
to
assure
me
that
we're
working
on
it
and
bring
some
people
together.
P
We're
requesting
bull
belts
or
curb
extensions.
At
the
four
intersections,
which
should
include
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons,
these
are
improvements
consistent
with
with
the
city-wide
Transportation
plan
from
2018
that
was
already
approved,
so
we're
not
asking
for
anything
out
of
the
ordinary
and
we
don't
need
additional
studies.
The
time
to
act
is
now.
P
My
kids
are
little
and
they're
going
to
grow
up
going
to
these
schools
and
I
really
want
to
be
able
to
walk
and
bike
and
enjoy
the
streets,
whether
the
trees
are
butchered
or
not,
so
that
we
can
enjoy
our
our
neighborhood
and
so
I
appreciate
all
you
do
and
for
the
town
and
I
hope
that
we'll
be
able
to
come
to
some
funding
for
these
improvements.
Thank
you.
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jill
Watson
I
stay
at
62,
America
Street
we've
been
there
for
64
years,
so
I've
seen
the
changes
within
the
east
side.
I
also
see
the
need
at
East,
Side
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
listening
to
me
because
after
our
meeting
last
Wednesday
I
was
told
by
my
counselman
no
12th
time.
No
I
don't
want
to
hear
you.
Q
I
know
her
because
every
morning
I
walk
the
peninsula
when
I
get
around
there
she's
outside,
and
we
would
have
a
conversation
about
her
losing
her
leg
and
that
inner
strength
that
she
needed
to
be
able
to
get
beyond
that.
Just
like
the
chief
and
the
discussion
I've
had
with
him
since
then,
and
telling
them
what
to
pray
and
what
I'm
going
to
pray
for
him,
strengthening
the
person
that
they
want
to
go
on
with
life.
But
let's
look
at
what
was
taken
away
from
her
over
six
years
ago.
Q
Q
Q
Take
the
fall
for
what
happened,
because
we
didn't
get
him
to
realize
the
concerns
of
the
community,
but
you
wait
and
we
not
be
able
to
say
hey,
let's
get
a
survey
of
what
all
is
going
on
there
and
now
move
forward
and
there's
other
ways
we
can
fund
it,
not
just
the
ways
they
say
it
in
the
newspaper.
Thank
you
all
for
listening
to
me.
O
R
My
name
is
Alex
Ziegler.
Thank
you,
mayor,
technberg
and
council
members
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today,
I'm
just
going
to
add
to
what
Miss
Bailey
was
saying
about
the
safety
improvements
on
the
upper
peninsula
for
pedestrians.
I.
Think
many
of
us
agree
that
Charleston
is
a
walking
City.
It's
one
of
the
reasons
we
love
it.
R
Those
are
relatively
High
every
day,
Monday
through
Friday,
the
kids
are
going
to
school
and
people
are
going
to
work.
So
anything
we
can
do
I
believe
to
to
decrease
the
odds
for
our
children
of
having
an
injury,
a
catastrophic
event,
I
think
we
should
do
and
I
think
these
are
reasonable.
Improvements
to
these
four
intersections
and
I
and
I
urge
the
city
to
to
continue
on
the
quest
to
get
those
installed
and
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
S
Thank
you
for
listening
to
us
mayor,
tecklenburg
and
City
Council
Members
I'm,
here
to
speak
on
The
Pedestrian
safety
concerns
for
the
Upper
Peninsula
I'm,
the
father
of
two
young
children
into
the
10
neighborhood
schools
and
the
husband
of
a
public
school
elementary
teacher
at
James,
Simmons,
Elementary
The,
increased
traffic,
speeding
and
driving
while
texting,
have
made
the
walk
to
and
from
our
schools
unsafe.
With
way
too
many
accidents
and
close
calls
for
our
children
and
parents
other
walks
to
and
from
school
I
implore.
S
You
to
find
the
funding
for
the
to
have
the
bulb
outs
and
curb
extensions
installed
at
all
and
all
should
include
the
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons
at
the
intersections
of
religion,
Simmons,
religion,
Moultrie,
king
of
Moultrie
and
King
Grove.
The
city's
department
of
traffic
and
transportation
already
approved
the
motion
for
the
increased
safety
measures.
The
time
is
now
to
put
the
safety
measures
into
place
before
there
are
any
more
children's
lives
put
in
Jeopardy.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
your
efforts
of
the
city
and
law
enforcement.
C
F
Good
afternoon
mayor,
we
had
a
fire
on
Burning,
Tree,
Road
last
night.
Guess
what
EMS
fire
trucks
repeated
from
getting
down
the
highway?
They
couldn't
make
it
to
the
end
of
the
road.
Some
of
them
made
it
you'll,
see
the
picture
on
channel
five
at
the
road.
Moross
Appel
says
an
open
road
that
says
dead
in
they
were.
They
were
in
the
parking
lot
at
the
school
across
street,
an
entire
block
away
from
where
the
incident
happened
and,
ironically
enough,
they
sent
you
one
of
these
silly
letters
saying
hey.
F
F
The
law
says
you
have
to
have
an
order
for
city
council,
you
don't
have
one
and
then
there's
other
components
to
the
law,
that
even
if
you
get
an
order
from
city
council,
but
currently
none
of
those
things
apply
so
now,
we've
had
my
father
have
a
stroke,
impeded
a
fire
down
the
road
where
you
have
to
have
a
stage
area
at
the
school,
a
block
and
a
half
away,
because
they
can't
get
to
the
area
I'm,
not
I'm,
watching
the
police.
There's
a
sergeant
Davidson
riding
through
the
school
parking
lot.
I
thought
man.
F
Something
must
be
going
on
at
the
school,
no
I'm
trying
to
find
my
way
to
Inverness
this
road
is
supposed
to
be
open.
I
know
it's
supposed
to
be
open,
but
the
city
closed
it
well.
Why
won't
they
open
again?
I,
don't
know.
Have
you
told
my
law?
Of
course,
I
have
but
I
guess
some
somehow
another
somebody's
got
more
pull
than
I
do.
T
Happy
New
Year,
my
name
is
Hank
Martin
I
live
at
6
Smith
Street
I'm,
a
member
of
first
Scott's
Church,
actively
involved
in
the
Charleston
area.
Justice
Ministry
and
I'd
like
to
sing
my
comments
tonight.
Auld
Lang
Syne
is
translated
for
times
long
past
I.
Hope
you'll
find
changing
these
lyrics
appropriate
for
preserving
Gadsden
wetlands.
T
Should
we
destroy
a
tidal,
Creek
and
farm
communities,
health?
Should
the
city
continue
on
a
path
creating
space
for
wealth
for
all
Lang
Syne,
my
dear
for
all
lines
are
charged
and
for
all
Races.
Now,
beyond
all
Langston
and
here's
a
hand,
my
trusty
friends
don't
fill
the
creek
it's
time
to
serve
a
cup
of
kindness
yet
for
all
Lang
Syne
for
all
Langs,
on
my
dear
for
all
Langs
on
our
trust
and
for
our
race.
U
Well,
good
evening,
mayor
council
members,
thank
you
so
much
for
letting
me
speak.
Happy
New
Year,
my
name
is
Mark
Gould
I
live
at
the
intersection
of
Ashley
Avenue
in
the
crosstown
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Church
of
the
Holy
Communion,
and
actively
involved
with
the
Charleston
area,
Justice
Ministry,
which
has
40
congregations
in
our
organization
council.
Member
saccharin.
You
are
my
council
member.
Perhaps
you've
resolved
in
2023
to
drink
more
water.
How
about
also
resolve
to
leave
the
water
in
the
creek
in
Gadsden
Creek?
U
We
learned
this
week
from
the
court
case
and
the
City
of
West
Edge
have
not
been
telling
us.
The
truth.
Truth
is
tidal,
flooding
can
more
easily
be
solved
without
the
filling
in
of
the
marsh
and
West
Edge
is
undocumented.
Evidence
from
the
court
showed
that
stormwater
flooding
will
be
made
worse
by
West
Edge
leave
the
water
where
it
is
in
the
creek
and
restore
the
creek
so
that
both
the
creek
and
the
community
can
flourish.
Thank
you.
V
Councilman
Jason
sacker,
and
you
were
my
council
member
one
of
one
New
Year's
resolution
to
adopt
instead
of
resolving
to
save
money.
Since
it
is
our
community's
money
that
we
are
working
with,
we
ask
that
you
spend
it
more
wisely.
As
a
council,
we
ask
that
you
stop
having
pockets
of
developers
and
acting
like
the
city
does
not
already
have
a
plan
to
restore
Gadsden
Creek.
We
learn
in
the
court
case
that
a
plan
to
restore
the
creek
already
existed.
W
Good
evening
mayor
council
members
Happy
New
Year,
my
name
is
Imam
Washington
and
I
live
at
64
Amherst
Street,
Charleston,
South,
Carolina
I
am
a
member
of
Masjid,
al-jamiya,
Rasheed
and
actively
involved
in
the
Charleston
area.
Justice,
Ministry
and
organization
filled
with
tenacious
community
members
council
member
Robin
Mitchell.
You
are.
Are
my
council
member,
a
2023,
New
Year's
resolution
that
we
suggest
you
adopt
instead
of
resolving
to
get
out
of
bed
early
in
in
the
morning,
we
ask
that
you
resolve
to
get
out
of
bed
with
West
Edge.
W
X
Good
evening,
I'd
like
to
make
yet
another
request
for
the
City
of
Charleston
to
stop
issuing
permits
to
the
group
who
has
been
coming
out
to
the
battery
nearly
every
weekend
to
wave
their
flag
of
Dylan
Roop.
As
a
reminder,
they
broke
a
flagpole
over
the
back
of
a
young
black
man
on
videotape
Carlton.
X
25-4
for
regarding
standards
of
issuance
states
that
you
can't
get
a
permit
from
the
city
if
you
beat
people
up,
it's
okay
for
a
white
man,
waving
the
flag
of
Dylan
roof
to
beat
a
black
man
in
the
park
here
in
Charleston
and
continue
to
get
permits
from
the
police.
Then
shame
on
Charleston
and
please
change
the
ordinance
to
say
that
the
ordinance
also
states
there
are
to
be
no
vehicles
in
only
reasonably
sized
signs
of
permanent
events.
If
that
doesn't
apply
to
the
local
white
supremacists,
who
wave
an
oversized
flag
and
a
Truck
either.
X
X
Lastly,
I
encourage
everyone
listening
to
go
back
and
watch
July
29
2021
emergency
meeting,
the
mayor
and
Council
held
to
pass
a
new
First
Amendment
ordinance
where
they
explain
the
urgency
was
to
exclude
open,
carry
a
Charleston
permitted
events
a
year
and
a
half
later
the
city
still
is
not
identifying.
The
specific
area
where
open
carry
is
prohibited,
at
least
at
the
battery,
where
the
white
supremacists
continue
to
gather
and
get.
B
Well,
Hammond,
you
got
here
a
little
bit
late.
Would
you
like
to
be
heard
Happy
New
Year
to
you
as
well.
Anyone
else
sign
up
that
hadn't
been
heard.
All
right!
Thank
you
all
for
being
with
us
this
evening
and
for
sharing
and
bringing
a
little
festive
air
to
it
and
I'll
have
to
admit
to
you.
That's
the
first
time
Council
has
been
serenaded,
so
Happy
New
Year.
To
all.
Thank
you
and.
C
Mr
Mayor,
we
did
receive
some
comments
online
and
by
telephone
all
of
the
comments
received
online
and
by
telephone
or
send
to
the
council
members
in
full.
This
is
just
a
summary.
We
received
17
comments
online
and
five
comments
by
phone.
That
commented
against
the
display
of
the
Confederate
flag
at
White,
Point
Gardens
and
permits
being
issued
to
flags
of
the
South
commenters
stated
there
had
been
permit
violations
and
that
the
flag
was
a
symbol
of
hate,
divisiveness
and
oppression.
Y
I
would
need
to
make
a
comment
pertaining
to
what's
happened
to
a
young
lady
on
East,
Bay
Street,
and
when
I
heard
about
it
and
I
heard
someone
say
it
was
going
to
be
a
press
conference
out
there
and
I.
Don't
know
anything
about
it,
but
no
one
ever
contacted
me
and
even
my
good
friend,
the
state
representative
was
there
but
I
didn't
know
anything
about
it,
but
I
believe
you'll
feel
that
if
we're
going
to
do
something
like
that,
that
is
a
tragedy
in
the
district
that
we
represent.
Y
I
think
we
all
should
have
gotten
together
from
the
state
available
to
the
county
level
to
the
local
level,
along
with
the
neighborhood
president,
in
that
particular
area,
is
so
more
teeth
because
they
got
remembered
that
even
that
particular
street
is
State
Street.
We
still
have
to
go
to
the
street
to
the
state
to
try
to
get
permission
to
get
these
things
done.
The
City
of
Charleston
just
cannot
go
and
do
it
so
I
want
people
to
know
that
this
is
not
the
City
of
Charleston
per
se.
Y
If
you
ever
drive
down
East
Bay
Street,
it's
a
bit
thoroughfare,
but
this
is
a
State
Street.
So
we
have
sent
a
letter
into
the
state,
but
it's
going
up
to
the
state
to
come
back
and
do
the
investigation
to
see
if
it's
warranted.
We
can
keep
fighting
the
same
as
King
and
Grove
King
and
Poinsett
I
fought
that
for
years
and
the
D.O.T
keep
tearing
me
down.
I
fought
it
for
years.
Right
here
on
Council,
we
said
letters
back
to
the
state
headed
to
come
down
and
look
at
it.
Y
They'd
say
it's
not
warranted,
so
they
didn't
do
anything.
So
we
still
trying
again
now
I
spoke
to
Mr
Robbie
Somerville
pertaining
to
it
and
we're
still
trying
to
put
a
walkway
there
coming
from
North
Central
apartments,
because
you
have
senior
citizens
living
there,
so
they
can
cross
the
street
and
by
Poinsett
and
and
King
Street.
Also
because
you
have
young
people,
welcome
you
back
in
the
forth
across
the
street,
so
we
are
working
on
that
now
as
we
speak,
this
was
not
just
done
yesterday.
Y
This
was
done
years
ago,
but
be
back
at
it
again
trying
again
and
we
still
have
to
go
through
the
state,
and
the
state
told
me
that
time
it
wasn't
warranted,
so
we
won't
be
they're
going
back
to
the
street
again
and
trying
to
get
them
to
come
back
and
do
it
for
safety
reasons.
This
is
all
about
safetiness
for
the
people
that
live
in
the
city
of
Charleston
safety
in
this
for
the
young
people
that
lives
in
the
city
of
Charles
Austin.
Y
So
those
layers
have
already
been
seen
again
and
having
the
state
to
come
back
and
do
it
again
and
see
if
we
can
get
them
to
do
it
and
try
to
push
those
things
forward.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
issue
out
that
these
have
been
done
since
even
the
young
lady
who
was
tragically
killed
on
East
Bay
Street.
That's
how
I've
already
been
done.
I
have
a
copy
of
the
letter
in
my
pocket
as
we
speak
that
went
to
the
state
and
also
with
the
King
Street.
Y
Also
that's
so
we're
working
on
that
and
I
know.
Councilman
sacrum
is
working
on
it
again.
He
is
doing
it
again,
the
same
thing
I've
done
years
and
years
ago,
but
we
are
still
trying
to
have
all
this
still
pushing
that
also
because
that's
a
part
of
the
district
I
represent
and
be
represent
that
same
area.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,.
A
A
They
are
employed
with
the
Sheriff's
Office,
the
school
district
requests
them,
but
since
covid
there's
been
issues
with
pay
Recruitment
and
it's
my
understanding
based
on
our
security
folks
for
the
school
district,
that
and
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
even
public,
but
I've
heard
rumors
that
the
sheriff's
office
is
discontinuing
the
program
at
some
point.
So
this
is
an
issue
for
the
school
district
that
I
think
should
take
up
and
you're
right.
It's
it's.
Z
Is
that
something
as
a
city
we
can
address,
as
opposed
to
a
council
by
himself
I'm,
just
telling
you
my
aunt,
used
to
be
a
school
crossing
Grant
at
Highway,
61
and
Wallace
Road,
which
was
a
major
highway
and
I,
can
tell
you.
She
was
very
good
at
what
she
thought
she's
passed
on
now,
but
that's
something
that
we
shouldn't
allow
to
happen
when
we,
when
they
wanted
to
take
the
school
resource
officers
out
of
the
school.
Z
E
B
Just
a
moment
on
the
agenda,
we're
going
to
talk
about
upper
peninsula
protection
safety,
so
we
can
talk
about
this
a
little
more,
but
let
me
move
through
the
agenda.
First,
the
appointments.
We
have
one
appointment
to
the
human
Affairs
and
racial
conciliation,
Commission
of
Reverend
Adam
Shoemaker
any
discussion
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye,
any
opposing
odds.
Have
it?
Thank
you
now
for
Council
Communications.
B
B
A
The
residents
that
are
here
is
trying
to
Advocate
and
find
funding
to
get
those
Solutions
done,
but
we
know
that
the
those
Solutions
recommendations
are
consistent
with
the
2018
city-wide
study,
so
we're
not
asking
for
anything
out
of
the
ordinary.
These
are
embedded
within
that
study
and
they're
consistent
with
that
and
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
for
folks
coming
tonight,
thanks
chairman
Brady,
that's
not
those
are
my
comments
on
this
issue.
Councilmember.
AA
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
and
thank
you
councilman
Sacrament,
and
for
your
efforts
on
this
and
Councilman
Mitchell
for
your
efforts
over
the
years
on
this,
and
we
all
know
the
complications
the
City
of
Charleston
faces
when
it
we're
talking
about
Transportation
infrastructure,
the
dot
tends
to
own
most
of
the
infrastructure.
The
county
has
all
the
money
we
have
all
the
constituents
voicing
this.
You
know
the
concerns
and
we
are
oftentimes.
AA
Faced
with
the
unfortunate
position
of
having
to
explain
to
our
constituents
that
you
know
the
destiny
is
not
really
in
the
city
of
Charleston's
hands.
That's
unfortunate.
The
state
of
South
Carolina
needs
to
have
structural
reforms,
to
make
it
easier
for
large
municipalities
to
have
more
autonomy,
Authority
control
of
resources
to
act
much
more
efficiently
and
effectively
when
it
comes
to
these
matters,
but
we're
not
solving
that
today,
unfortunately,
but
I
do
think.
AA
The
City
of
Charleston
has
a
unique
opportunity
for
once
for
once
to
have
its
own
dedicated
funding
stream
for
Traffic
Safety
Improvement
projects.
The
city
currently
does
not
have
a
dedicated
Revenue
stream.
For
these
purposes.
The
half
cent
sales
tax
that
we
all
pay
goes
to.
Charleston
County
for
them
to
decide
how
they
want
to
spend
that
money.
The
gas
tax,
those
kind
of
taxes
go
up
to
the
state
for
the
legislature
to
spread
the
wealth
around
the
state
and
things
of
that
nature.
AA
The
City
of
Charleston
under
act-
236,
you
may
have
heard
about
it-
may
have
talked
about
it
once
or
twice
city
of
Charleston.
If
we
wanted
to
could
draw
a
line
around
the
peninsula,
say
we're
going
to
come
up
with
a
traffic
safety
fee,
it's
going
to
be
a
flat
charge.
10
15,
20
30
on
properties
downtown
could
tack
it
onto
a
property
tax
bill
that
goes
into
a
fund,
but
the
City
of
Charleston
maintains
that
we
could
put
towards
exactly
this
type
of
effort
doesn't
have
to
be
Citywide.
AA
We
don't
want
it
on
James
Island.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
on
James
Island.
We
can
Geographic
perfectly
tailor
these
fees
in
this
specific
program
to
where
it
makes
sense
and
how
it
works.
We
can
have
a
fee
schedule
where
certain
types
of
property
owners
pay
a
higher
fee
than
other
types
of
property
owners.
We
have
an
enormous
opportunity
at
our
footsteps.
AA
Right
now
to
get
creative
to
solve
problems
like
this
all
over
the
city
and
for
one
start
having
money,
we
can
actually
use
to
fund
these
infrastructure
projects,
and
you
know
maintain
them
over
the
years.
So
I
really
think
that
this
is
something
we
ought
to
look
at.
This
new
legislation
presents
a
lot
of
unique
opportunities
for
the
city
across
a
whole
variety
of
different
trouble
areas
that
we've
been
dealing
with
for
years.
AA
I
think
this
is
really
an
opportunity
for
us
to
look
at
that
and
start
funding
these
projects
and
not
have
to
go
begging
the
county
and
the
state
to
solve
problems
down
here
in
Charleston,
which,
let's,
let's
be
frank,
I
mean
it
doesn't.
It
hasn't
hasn't
worked
all
that
great
thus
far,
and
it
can
certainly
be
improved.
So
with
that
I'll
close
my
remarks
and
hope
we
can
make
some
progress
on
that
issue.
Thank.
E
You
Mr
Gregory
two
points:
one
councilman
Sacrament.
We
also
considered
that
strip
between
on
King
Street
between
Sumter
and
line
street
without
accident
occurred.
A
young
girl
was
killed
across
the
street
that
part
of
this
plant
as
well
and
I
know
we.
We
went
out
there
and
met
with
officials
with
the
state
and
County
and
members
of
the
TNT
committee.
Has
there
been
any
movement
at
all
on
improving
that
stretch
that
I
can't
remember
who's,
District
or
both
of
y'alls
yeah?
Y
Yeah
I
think
it
was
saying
that
they
would
get
back
with
us.
That's
about
it,
but
it's
nothing
to
transpire
about
it
at
all
and
they
they
came
out.
I
think
it
was
out
there.
They
came
out
and
looked
at
it
and
did
the
assessment
and
that's
about
it
and
that's
where
it's
still
installed
right
there,
but
the
state
I.
AB
B
E
AB
E
E
Second
Point
mayor
should
Echo
with
councilmember
my
pals
were
talking
about,
but
I
would
not
limit
that
proposal.
Councilman
propelled
to
the
pencil
to
the
peninsula
we've
been
working
on
an
improvement
around
Old,
Town
Road
and
Sam
Rittenberg
Donahue
Street,
Charleston,
Estates
Amberly
for
two
or
three
years
in
the
funding
for
that
which
is
all
money
by
the
way.
This
is
actually
the
city's
money
that
the
county
controls
through
Dot's
approval.
We
keep
on
getting
that
project
pushed
back
and
was
supposed
to
start
in
2022
and
nothing
happened
was
done
in
2023.
E
I
haven't
seen
any
movement
with
that,
but
if
we
don't
have
a
mechanism
of
controlling
these
types
of
improvements,
it's
a
safety
issue.
It's
a
down
white
flat
safety
issue.
Awareness
refer
to
me
too
many
times
complaining
about
the
sidewalk
issues
that
we
get
dumped
on.
It
probably
works
committee,
but
when
it
comes
to
these
types
of
issues
to
State
enormous
I
mean,
let's
just
be
honest
with
it.
The
state
ignores
us
on
this:
the
counties
beholden
to
the
state
and
we're
left.
E
As
you
said,
the
Illinois
constituents
sorry,
but
you
maybe
we
get
our
our
state
election
officials
more
engaged
in
this
process.
But
if
we
can
find
a
mechanism
to
address
this
and
we
can
control
those
type
of
improvements-
that's
all
part
of
urban
planning,
anyhow
there's
roads
and
highways
and
streets
and
we're
stuck.
We
and
we
held
up
the
improvements
on
sumar
street
because
we're
in
for
this
project
to
be
approved.
AC
So
to
me,
Public
Safety
should
start
drafting
some
legislation
to
incorporate
the
provisions
of
236
and
let's
test
the
water
number
two
Miss
McRae,
the
late
Miss
McRae
was
our
crossing
guard
and
it
worked.
It
worked
so
I
think
in
addition
to
all
that,
we're
proposing,
we
need
to
go
to
what
we
know
works.
We
need
to
go
to
the
chairman
of
the
school
board.
AC
I
mean
safety
should
be
their
number
one
priority
for
our
children
and
if
it
requires
something
from
the
mayor
in
this
body
to
say
to
the
chairman
it's
time
to
do
something
about
public
safety
for
our
children,
then
mayor
I
think
we
need
to
do
that
because
we
could
wait.
We've
been
waiting
for
the
state
in
the
county
on
Gamble
Road
to
get
a
traffic
light.
AC
It
took
five
years
folks
to
get
a
traffic
light
for
safety,
for
our
children
and
for
our
our
constituents.
So
to
me,
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
stop
looking
at
and
taking
action
and
I
really
think
we
need
to
confront
the
school
board
with
this
safety
issue,
mayor
I
really
do
and
if
they're
defunding
guards
but
to
keep
our
children
safe,
then
I
think
it's
time
for
us
to
take
it
on
as
a
city,
because
those
children
are
also
our
constituents
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
protect
them.
AC
A
Thank
you
mayor,
just
just
for
the
record
I
want
to
make
sure
that
my
comments
are
clear.
It's
my
understanding
that
the
school
Guard
School
crossing
guards
are
managed
by
the
Sheriff's
Department
school
district
is
involved
because
of
the
schools,
but
that
Sheriff's
Department
manages
that
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
for
the
record
we're
clear
and
then
the
other
thing
is
I'm.
A
Encouraged
by
the
conversation
from
my
colleagues
regarding
this
I
I
would
ask
pleasure
my
fellow
council
members
for
our
next
TNT
meeting
to
potentially
add
to
that
agenda
for
discussion,
because
I
haven't
certainly
had
the
opportunity
to
hear
about
this
since
being
on
Council
about
taking
back
some
of
our
streets
from
the
state
and
owning
and
managing
that
I
know
some
bristle
at
that.
What
I'm
just
saying
as
a
new
council
member
I'm,
completely
ignorant
to
to
the
fees,
the
costs
and
I'd
love
to
hear
more
about
it.
A
So
if
it's,
if
it's
something,
that's
a
moot
point
and
Council
and
doesn't
go
anywhere
past
TNT
I
am
fine
with
that.
But
I
just
want
to
learn
more
about
it
and
see
if
that's
a
possibility,
because
I
think
we're
talking
about
is
funding.
We're
also
talking
about
autonomy
being
able
to
control
some
of
our
situations.
So
with
the
pleasure
of
chair
and
vice
chair,
I'd
love
to
add
that
to
the
next
TNT
driven.
Z
So
the
funding
is
there
what
they
did
was
they
cut
little?
Whoever
did
it
was
the
sheriff's
office.
They
cut
essential
workers
and
whoever
made
that
decision
needs
to
be
the
transparency
on
that
needs
to
come
forward.
I
actually
believe
that
the
people
who
voted
to
do
that
were
highlighted,
I,
think
they'll,
see
the
wisdom
and
putting
those
essential
workers
back
on
the
payroll.
This
is
one
of
the
lowest
cost
budget
items
they
would
have
and
I'll
tell
you
why
these
aren't
even
full-time
employees.
Z
These
people
come
for
a
couple
hours
in
the
morning
and
a
couple
hours
in
the
afternoon.
That's
it
be
part-time,
they
don't
even
have
benefits,
they
don't
have
retirement,
they
don't
have
medical,
they
don't
have
disability,
they
don't
have
sick
leave
and
annually
and
those
are
the
people
they
cut
now
right
now
we
don't
know
who
did
that,
but
one
thing
about
it:
we
can
find
that
out.
Z
So
we
can
use
236
to
fund
some
other
things
in
the
city,
but
those
dollars
have
already
been
appropriated
and
somebody
came
along
and
said:
we're
going
to
cut
it
and
they
were
able
to
do
that
and
none
of
the
parents
knew
about
it.
None
of
the
Mayors
knew
about
it.
None
of
the
council
members
know
about
it.
I
think
that
one
could
be
reversed.
So,
let's,
let's
find
out
how
that
got
reversed
and
then,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
the
funding
put.
B
Back
well,
thank
you.
We'll
drill
down
on
what's
going
on,
our
SRO
leadership
at
the
police
department
has
good
good
relations
with
the
sheriff's
department,
we'll
figure
out.
What's
going
on
with
that,
come
back
to
you,
I
I
agree
long
term.
We
need
some.
The
City
of
Charleston
needs
some
funding
source
to
be
able
to
make
everyday
roadway
improvements
that
we
can't
fund
through
the
general
fund
and
and
and
maybe
you're
right.
That's
an
opportunity.
I
will
add
the
caveat
for
those
who
might
be
listening.
B
AD
That
no
I
mean
it's
I,
think
for
council
member
sackman's
purposes
and
I'm
excited
I
missed
the
last
TNT
meeting
before
we
have
this
conversation
again.
Let's
just
take
a
look
and
see
if
you've
seen
the
checkerboard,
particularly
on
the
peninsula
of
streets
and
who
owns
them
and
who
doesn't
at
least,
let's
have
that
in
our
hands.
When
we
take
this
up
again,
so
we
can
let
the
people
who
live
in
those
neighborhoods
actually
know
who's
got.
AD
What
and
one
of
the
ironies
of
all
of
it
is
even
if
we
take
the
streets
back,
the
dot
still
has
hooks
on
us
as
to
what
we
can
do
on
them
under
certain
circumstances.
So
it's
it's
a
complicated
White
Hot
Mess
we've
been
through
this
before
it's
exhausting
in
some
ways,
because
it's
so
obvious
that
we
need
to
do
something.
AD
L
AD
Example
of
that
is
around
the
corner
from
where
I
live
at
the
corner
of
Bennett
and
Rutledge.
You
know
where
that
is
by
the
parks.
It's
a
very
little
intersection,
but
Rutledge
south
of
Calhoun
is
heavily
traveled
too.
We
wanted
to
put
a
stop
sign
there.
The
the
one
achievement
I've
had
as
a
city
council
member
is
after
seven
years
we
got
a
stop
sign
at
the
corner
of
Bennett
and
Rutledge.
That
will
be
on
my
Epitaph.
That
will
be
on
my
gravestone.
AD
He
got
this
stop
sign,
but
the
way
we
did
it
is
we
had
to
take
the
road
back.
We
had
to
go
through
a
whole
bunch
of
machinations
to
literally
put
up
a
stop,
sign
and
I
mean
not
to
bring
up
some
bad
stuff,
but
you
might
recall
the
number
of
horrible
incidents
that
happened
at
that
intersection
before
we
got
it
so
we're
with
you
right
I
mean
we
all
are
on
this
table,
but
we
need
to
get
all
our
ducks
in
a
row.
AD
So
before
the
next
TNT
meeting,
we'll
get
you
it's
a
I've
got
the
map,
I'll
send
it
to
you,
and
it
shows
you
which
one
and
it's
amazing,
some
some
streets,
a
block
between
two
North
South
Streets,
maybe
on
East
West,
the
next
one,
isn't
there's
no
Rhyme
or
Reason
to
it.
If
you
showed
it
to
a
Kindergarten
class,
say
well
look.
This
is
this
is
ridiculous,
so
we'll
keep
moving
forward
on
this
for
sure
and
and
get
some
progress.
AD
I
do
think
by
the
way
Mr
Mayor
at
the
next
level,
up
at
the
county
through
chats,
there's
safety
money
available
up
there
and
they
do
do
some
smaller
projects
and
we
need
to
sort
of
get
that
on
the
list,
because
the
policy
committee's
been
pretty
favorable
at
addressing
and
allocating
Monies
to
safety
projects,
and
this
one.
These
are
ones
that
I
think
we
probably
could
talk
to
Mr
Mitchum
about
and
get
that
in.
B
Z
Know
I've
been
recognized
twice
but
I
think
there's
one
fact
point
I
think
we
all
would
be
very
interested
in
and,
as
you
know,
the
honorable
Judge
Arthur
McFarland
was
President.
He
just
left,
but
he
technology
is
wonderful.
You
know
chief
judge
for
what
30
years
32
years
or
whatever
for
the
City
of
Charleston,
the
city
used
to
run
the
school
cop
Crossing
program
actually
through
CPD.
X
B
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
committee
on
traffic
and
transportation
met
Tuesday,
January
3rd
at
4
pm.
We
discussed
the
topic
that
we
were
just
discussing:
The
Pedestrian
safety
on
the
upper
peninsula
and
took
action
and
did
provide
recommendations,
including
that
the
committee
would
send
a
letter
in
support
for
the
tax
money
to
be
allocated
towards
these
projects
that
we've
discussed
earlier.
Next,
we
took
up
at
councilmember
shad's
request
to
talk
about
sumar
Street
and
the
18-wheeler
overnight
parking
there.
H
So
that
was
that
we
deferred
the
update
on
the
bike
share
program
and
we'll
get
that
at
the
next
meeting,
much
to
council
member
Greg's
Delight.
We
approved
the
traffic
calming
on
Purcell
Lane
unanimously,
and
then
we
received
an
update
on
two
projects
very
close
to
me
and
in
my
district,
the
Sanders
Road
sidewalk
update.
H
That
will
be
going
out
to
bid
soon,
so
that
was
some
great
progress
there
and
the
state
DOT
did
sign
off
on
the
raised
crosswalk
that
will
connect
the
sidewalk
from
Sanders
Road
to
the
school
district
sidewalk
at
C,
Williams
Elementary,
so
we'll
have
I
think
it's
very
topical
with
what
we've
been
talking
about
with
pedestrian
safety,
especially
for
students.
That's
something
we've!
Actually,
we've
been
working
on
as
well,
and
then
the
Sanders
wrote
at
bees
Ferry
traffic
signal.
H
If
it
took
u5,
it
took
me
three
years
to
get
that
done
and
very
excited
that
that
will
be
going
operational
soon.
It
will
flash
for
72
hours
once
they
get
the
wiring
and
everything
complete
and
then
the
light
will
become
operational
if
you've
ever
tried
to
make
that
the
left
from
Sanders
onto
bees,
Ferry
or
if
you're,
coming
from
verdier
Lane
over
at
The
Avenues
Apartments,
it's
pretty
much
you're,
taking
your
life
in
your
own
hands
to
try
and
get
across
these
ferry,
so
that
light
will
bring
much
needed.
H
R
B
L
E
Cable
on
two
Marsh
Street
property,
a
little
two
decided
I
was
okay
to
Purdue
and
then
across
the
street
are
those
18,
wheelers
or
so
parked
there.
This
is
the
ongoing
problem
and
trying
to
revitalize
what's
actually
allowing
this
to
to
transpire
I,
just
pass
it
out
to
you
for
information
and
appreciate
the
committee
taking
this
up
and
looking
forward
to
a
resolution
of
this.
AC
E
E
They
put
these
cable
these
these
rolls
of
cable
and
that
heavy
machinery
out
there
and
it
just
sits
there
and
you
know
I
call
complain,
and
here
they
are
and
then
across
the
street
it
was
supposed
to
be
checking
on
the
private
property,
because
across
the
street
was
an
old
Captain
D's
and
unless
they
complain,
unless
the
private
property
owner
complains,
nothing
happens.
So
it
is
an
ongoing
issue
of
getting
livability
out
there
to
look
at
it
and
to
get
those
things
moved
off
of
them.
B
AA
I'm
having
a
similar
issue
in
my
district
on
the
west,
Ashley
Circle,
which
was
Hilton,
hasn't
quite
been
built
out
yet,
but
they
I
mean
there
was
a
trailer
there
for
weeks.
Just
dropped
off.
No
no
truck
happens
all
the
time
they're
parked
in
the
street,
often,
and
so
some
of
us
who
take
that
road
as
a
as
a
way
of
bypassing
some
traffic
on
these
Ferry,
sometimes
have
to
be
extremely
Vigilant
that
one
of
those
things
isn't
sticking
in
the
road
as
we're
as
we're
driving
by
so
there.
AA
There
certainly
is
an
enforcement
problem
and
I
would
love.
I
would
love
if
we
could,
if
we
could
fix
that,
I
mean
it's
a
big
city
to
be
constantly
trying
to
enforce
these
things.
So
maybe
maybe
the
problems
that
we're
not
finding
enough
or
we
don't
have
graduated
bonds
to
really
hit
people.
If
they're,
you
know
repeat
Defenders
so
I
think
that's
a
I,
think
that's
a
good
point
and
something
that
I
would
I
would
like
to
see.
Maybe
traffic
and
transportation
take
up
in
the
future
and.
B
Robbie
asked
me
if
we
could
post
some
signs
on
the
west
Ashley
Circle
for
no
overnight
parking
similar
to
what
we
did
at
low
battery
and
so
I
think
those
signs
are
on
order
and
or
they
will
be
soon,
we'll
be
able
to
post
them
and
then
and
write
tickets
and
enforce
a
little
better
once
we
get
those
posted.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Yes,
sir,
all
right.
So
next
up
is
committee
on
special
facilities,
council,
member
shealy.
D
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
the
committee
on
special
facilities
met
last
Thursday,
January
5th.
We
had
a
thorough
update
from
our
new
special
facilities
director
Romaine
Hayward.
She
let
us
know
that
visitation
was
outstanding
in
2022
for
our
special
facilities.
Every
one
of
our
facilities
had
a
boost
in
attendance,
The,
Dock,
Street
Theater
had
about
5
000,
more
people
for
a
total
of
about
35
000
and
those
are
just
visitors
touring.
D
Charleston
stage
is
doing
very,
very
well
right
now
and
in
2023
they're,
actually
going
to
move
in
a
month
earlier
to
add
some
shows
because
they
are
doing
so
well.
Spaledo
had
three
or
four
performances
per
day
in
the
doc
Street
Theater
this
year
during
their
17-day
festival,
and
they
plan
to
do
that
again
in
2023.
D
Mojo
also
had
some
events
in
the
doc
Street
Theater
attendance
was
low
because
it
was
around
that
time
that
hurricane
Ian
was
coming
through.
So
they
had
some
attendance
problems
there.
There
were
several
weddings
that
actually
took
place
in
the
doc
Street
Theater
and
some
some
actual
weddings
that
were
supposed
to
take
place
back
during
the
pandemic.
The
people
got
married,
but
they
came
back
and
celebrated
in
the
doc
Street
theater.
So
we
had
a
few
of
those.
D
The
library
Society
uses
the
doc
Street
Theater
for
two
weeks
each
year
and
they
plan
to
continue
to
do
that
and
we're
hoping
to
have
a
new
operations
director
for
the
dot
Street
Theater
by
mid-February
and
The
Maritime
Center
had
some
pipes
freeze
a
couple
weeks
ago.
Those
repairs
were
being
done.
We
had
a
total
of
363
registered
boats
in
2022
and
Netflix
Outer
Banks
show
and
HBO's
righteous
gemstones
used
The
Maritime
Center
for
filming
this
past
year
and
Lands
End
catalog
also
used
it
for
some
of
their
marketing.
D
So
we
completed
a
license
agreement
with
harbor
tours.
Several
tall
ships
have
used
the
Maritime
Center
in
the
past
year
and
it's
still
a
top
location
for
transient
voters
because
of
the
views
of
the
harbor,
of
course,
and
of
course,
our
low
cost.
But
she
I
won't
go
into
detail,
but
there
was
several
maintenance
items
that
she
listed
in.
The
Maritime.
D
They
had
the
annual
reading
of
the
Declaration
of
Independence
on
the
front
steps
this
past
year,
and
we
discussed
me
some
maintenance
items
and
other
issues
there.
The
old
slave
Mark
Museum
had
visitation
of
89
000,
which
was
an
increase
of
over
five
thousand.
We
had
the
biggest
boost
of
we
had
a
big
boost
in
attendance
over
the
Christmas
holidays,
which
was
which
was
incredible.
D
A
lot
of
people
come
and
visiting
our
facilities
and
there's
currently
a
study
being
done
by
the
police
department
to
see
how
we
can
make
that
facility,
maybe
a
little
safer
for
our
employees
and
visitors
as
well.
So
we
discussed
the
possibility
to
actually
mayor
tecklenburg
brought
this
up,
but
it
was
a
possibility
of
a
joint
combination
ticket
with
the
International
African-American
Museum
as
well.
So
the
Angel
Oak
had
421
000
visitors
and
there's
been
a
big
boost
to
our
gift
shop.
D
There,
gift
shop
sales
have
done
very
very
well.
Over
the
last
year,
they've
been
doing
some
group
lectures
to
give
some
education
about
the
history
of
the
tree
and
they're
continuing
to
work
with
the
preservation
trusts
on
some
projects,
such
as
parking,
Improvement,
signage
and,
of
course,
the
expansion
of
the
park
and
working
together
with
the
preservation
trust,
also
to
see
how
we
may
be
able
to
offset
some
of
those
costs.
So
there
was
nothing
really
voted
on.
It
was
for
informational
only,
but
that's
the
conclusion
of
my
report.
Mr
Mayor
good
to
report.
B
Thank
you,
sir.
Any
questions
for
council
member
shealy
all
right
hearing
now
and
move
forward
to
our
flights
of
committee,
which
we
really
already
got
a
report
from
during
the
waves
and
means
anything
to
add
comments
all
in
favor.
Please
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it.
That's
our
committee
on
ways
and
means,
as
amended
all
right
any
discussion
with
recusals
same
recusals
of
apply
and.
AF
B
All
right,
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye,
any
opposed,
see
eyes
have
him.
So
next
up
is
bills
for
second
reading
I
think
we
have
seven
of
seconds
tonight
for
second
reading
any
comments
or
questions
about
items,
one
through
seven
bills
for
second
reading
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
say
aye
aye
any
oppose
yes
and
ratification,
any
comments
or
questions
all
in
favor.
Please
say:
aye
aye
aye
any
opposed!
Yes,
have
it
now
Bill's
up
for
first
reading,
we've
got.
Y
B
E
B
H
I
know
we
have
the
applicant
here
tonight,
and
one
of
the
things
we
had
talked
about
at
the
last
meeting
was
on
the
sr1
conservation
zoning
allowing
for
the
density
provided
that
there
was
the
affordability
component.
I
was
hoping
the
applicant
might
be
able
to
address
why
they
didn't
want
to
go
with
the
sr1
zoning.
If
that
would.
O
Reese
kimsey
with
Middleburg
communities
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
we
went
back
and
looked
at
the
SR
kind
of
bonus
densities
only
affordable.
You
know
all
in
all
for
financial
reasons
that
doesn't
make
the
the
the
deal
pencil
for
us
to
move
forward.
But
what
we
did
work
on
for
addressing
that
affordability
was
working
with
the
Sea
Island
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
donating
density
for
six
units
for
them
at
no
cost
to
them
to
work
and
obviously
work
with
them
as
they're
at
the
corner
of
Southwick.
O
So
we
have
six
units
of
of
density
under
the
dr6
zoning
that
we
would
have
and
we
would
give
that
to
them
at
no
cost
and
it's
at
the
North
which
had
a
way
to
show
that's
on
the
site
plan,
but
it's
on
the
Northwestern
side
and
has
a
street
stub
out
to
it
and
we'll
give
them
full
easements
for
sewer
water
access.
Everything
to
that
at
no
cost
to
the
Sea
Island
Habitat
for
Humanity
talk
to
them
they're
in
full
support
of
that
as
well.
B
AE
So
the
zone
change
that
they're
requesting
will
actually
divide
the
property
and
include
some
area
that
will
be
reserved
as
Conservation
Area.
That's
in
the
predominantly
the
low-lying
areas,
but
not
exclusively
in
the
other
area,
will
allow
for
the
slightly
higher
density
than
the
current
sr1.
That's
on
the
site.
AE
Currently,
it's
a
uniform
zoning
across
the
site.
This
zone
change
will
change
that
and
allow,
and,
as
I
said,
some
of
it
will
be
the
conservation.
Some
of
it
will
be
and
I
apologize,
I'm
blanking
on
the
the
new
designation,
but
will
allow
for
that
slightly
higher
density,
I.
Think
under
the
current
zoning,
the
site
would
have
a
density
potentially
for
120..
As
councilman
Brady
has
indicated.
AE
It
does
have
the
ability
to
do
the
conservation
zoning
which
would
allow
them
to
do
additional,
affordable
units
at
no
additional
density
impact,
but
obviously
there's
a
lot
of
constraints
that
go
with
using
the
conservations
zoning,
a
lot
of
upfront
work
that
is
required
in
order
to
be
able
to
achieve
that,
which
is
the
difference
here.
They
can
get
the
zone
change
and
do
their
engineering,
and
all
of
that
that
they'll
need
to
do
through
storm
water
under
the
conservation.
AE
Z
Mitch
one
thing:
I
wanted
to
compliment:
councilman
Brady
on
working
on
that
affordability
act,
because
that
was
not
an
issue
until
he
raised
the
issue.
I,
try
and
now
I
want
to
come
in
the
developer,
for
listening
and
of
working,
the
numbers
to
the
point
to
it
and
allying
with
Habitat
for
Humanity,
because
we've
seen
a
lot
of
developments
that
have
come
through
here
that
didn't
have
that
type
sensibility.
Z
B
B
You,
the
Charleston
chapter
I,
might
add,
is
a
very
good
chapter,
but
the
Sea
Island
chapter
of
habitat
is
is
excellent
and
they've
had
trouble
finding
property
so
you're
all
making
some
property
available
to
them,
particularly
at
no
charge
is,
is
really
a
nice
thing.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that.
Yeah.
Y
Building
Homes,
that's
really
the
reasonable
home.
You
can
buy
yeah
when
habitat
is
building
it.
When
I
used
to
build
the
board
of
habitat,
you
know,
I
can
tell
you
A
lot
of
people
purchase
Habitat
homes
and
couldn't
afford
to
purchase
any
home
anywhere
else,
so
habitat
is
doing
a
good
job
once
they
can
find
land
properties
now
is
more
expensive,
so
it's
not
like
it
used
to
be,
but
it's
still
doing
a
good
job
making
affordable
housing
yeah.
Thank
you
all.
B
AA
I
was
I
was
just
going
to
quickly
say
you
know:
I've
applaud,
councilman
Brady,
you
know
for
the
same
reason,
councilman
Waring,
suggested
and
and
commend
the
developer
for
reaching
out
to
Habitat
for
Humanity.
I
would
just
point
out
to
my
colleagues
that
we're
just
approving
of
zoning
change.
None
of
this
stuff
with
Habitat
for
Humanity,
is
baked
into
any
of
this.
I'd
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
and
I'm,
not
I,
don't
distrust
y'all
at
all.
I'm
just
saying
I'd
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
prior
to
giving
this
second
and
third
reading.
AA
C
B
C
H
I
just
wanted
under
the
rules
to
explain
my
vote
and
I
appreciate
the
developers,
especially
coming
back
with
the
you
know,
agreement
with
habitat
and
look
forward
to
reviewing
the
mou,
but
you
know
my
constituents
have
reached
out
to
me
concerned
about
the
density
there,
and
so
you
know
I
need
to
be
their
voice
and
unfortunately
have
to
vote
against
that,
but
understand
you
know
my
colleagues
moving
forward
and
what
that
applies.
So
thank
you.
Thank.
C
Z
Of
them
councilmember,
if
I,
could
ask
Michelle
Johnson
to
come
to
the
microphone.
Please,
no,
no
councilman
fails
a
point.
I
can't
tell
you
how
valid
it
is.
There's
a
development
at
the
end
of
asking
for
the
Oaks
we
made
some
accommodations
for
clustering
on
the
sr1,
and
the
developers
said
that
they
would
create.
Was
it
four
or
six
units
that
development
is
fully
built
out
and
the
developer
over
there
hadn't
built
how
many
zero
that's
right?
It's
Crescent
I
mean
it's
not
it's
not
a
secret
Preston
homes.
Z
They
came
right
in
this
chamber
and
agreed
to
something
very
similar
so
where
they're
gonna
build
affordable,
housings
a
matter
of
fact
in
that
Community,
basically,
absolutely
Maryville
ashleyville
now
I,
don't
know
how
we
Circle
back
on
that,
but
they
have
built.
What
is
it
44
homes
over
there
and
I
mean
not
entry
level
they're
beautiful
they're.
Z
You
you
talk
about
the
quintessential,
beat
and
switch
that's
what
they
did
gotcha.
So
you
are
spot
on
councilmember,
Bell
and
I
know
you
all
will
follow
up
and
get
the
writing
done
right
and
I'll
be
once
we
see
that
now.
Affordable
lady
is
a
and
legal
satisfied
without
having
trouble
moving
forward.
But
again
still
thank
you.
Councilman
baby
thank.
B
AA
Marks
it
out
I'd
like
to
give
the
proponents
of
the
ordinance
an
opportunity
to
speak
first,
if
they'd
like,
but
I'm,
happy
to
go
now.
I
just
wanted
to
I'll
go
ahead.
Okay,
so
I
think
this
is
an
important
discussion.
I
appreciate
this
measure
being
brought
forward.
I
oppose
this.
This
ordinance.
This
concept
and
I
want
to
explain
to
my
colleagues
why
my
opposition
is
aimed
at
two
reasons.
AA
First,
I
think
that
we
need
to
as
a
council
defend
the
executive
branch
of
the
City
of
Charleston
is
an
institution,
an
executive
branch
that
served
the
City
of
Charleston
well
for
Generations
across
multiple
mayorships
and
number.
Two
I
think
that
this
ordinance
moves
us
in
a
direction
of
making
city
council
more
political
and
I'm
concerned
that
by
doing
this,
we
are
going
to
become
distracted
by
power
struggles.
Factionalism
and
infighting
and
I
want
to
be
clear.
My
remarks
and
my
opposition-
it's
not
about
defending
any
particular
slate
of
committee
assignments.
AA
It's
not
about
defending
the
mayor.
The
mayor
doesn't
need
me
to
defend
him.
This
is
more
about
a
structural
concern
about
how
our
government
is
set
up.
The
City
of
Charleston,
just
like
every
major
city,
needs
a
strong
Executive
Branch,
the
City
of
Charleston
council
members.
We
are
part-time.
Essentially,
we
are,
we
all
have
other
jobs
things
of
that
nature.
The
mayor
is
the
one
who
wakes
up
every
day
comes
into
an
office
and
runs
the
city
in
order
for
the
city
to
be
led
forward
into
the
future.
AA
It
needs
a
mayor
empowered
to
execute
its
agenda.
Is
it
his
or
her
agenda?
Councilmember
Gregory
is
absolutely
right
that
all
power
resides
in
Council.
There's
no
question
about
that.
That's
the
law,
but
our
predecessors,
the
city
council
years
ago,
wisely
delegated
that
power
to
appoint
committees
and
a
host
of
all
of
other
powers
to
the
mayor,
and
that's
why
the
City
of
Charleston
has
a
mayor
council
form
of
government.
The
the
phrase
strong
mayor
is
actually
not
a
legal
term.
AA
AA
The
mayor
is
elected
every
four
years
with
substantial
voter
turnout,
media
coverage,
money
put
into
getting
the
message
out
and
the
mayor
once
elected,
should
have
the
opportunity
and
the
authority
to
execute
his
agenda,
and
it
defies
logic.
I
must
say
to
force
a
mayor
to
have
committees
led
by
political
opponents.
It
will
frustrate
the
ability
for
the
mayor
to
run
the
city,
it'll
delay,
progress,
it'll,
cause
more
infighting
and
things
of
that
Nation
thank
God,
the
City
of
Charleston
Council
seats
are
non-partisan.
None
of
us
are
Democrats.
AA
None
of
us
are
Republicans,
that's
fantastic,
but
to
suggest
that
we
are
a
non-political
body
is,
is
not
accurate
in
my
view
and
I,
don't
think
this
proposal
takes
politics
out
of
the
equation.
It
simply
moves
politics
from
the
mayor's
office
to
the
floor
of
council
and
I'm
just
concerned
about
that
little
entail,
especially
after
what
we've
seen
up
in
Washington
DC
in
the
House
of
Representatives
over
the
past
couple
of
weeks,
or
so.
This
would
be
an
unprecedented
radical
departure
from
the
way
local
governments
are
run
in
this
region.
AA
Charleston
County
their
chair,
nominates,
I'm,
sorry,
appoints
committee
chairs
and
and
committees,
the
town
of
Mount
Pleasant,
the
town
and
the
city
of
North
Charleston,
the
mayor
appoints
councils
and
committee
ships
in
both
of
those
jurisdictions
and
the
town
of
Mount
Pleasant
is
a
council
form
of
government,
also
known
as
a
weak
form
of
government.
One
of
the
few
powers
that
mayor
Haney
has
above
and
beyond
is
council.
Member
colleagues
is
the
ability
to
appoint
committee
chairs
and
committee
assignments,
so
even
in
a
weak
form,
that's
a
power
held
by
the
executive.
AA
So
if
we
were
to
do
this
in
Reverse
course
on
decades
and
Decades
of
process
over
here,
it
would
be
a
radical
structural
departure
from
not
just
how
we
do
business,
but
it
would
be
a
unique
feature
in
the
area:
listen
I,
you
know,
I've
got
my
opinions
on
certain
Council
committee,
chairs,
I.
Think
some
do
a
great
job.
I
think
some
do
less
than
a
great
job.
I'm
not
going
to
put
anybody
personally
on
blast
tonight.
AA
I,
don't
think
that
was
cool
in
in
December,
but
we
don't
need
to
go
there.
We
don't
need
to
get
personal,
it's
not
about
my
opinion
or
position.
We
all
have
the
ability,
no
matter
who's,
the
chair
of
what
to
bring
an
idea
forward,
get
in
on
an
agenda.
Do
the
work,
move
the
ball
forward
and
whether
or
not
we
pass
this
ordinance
or
not.
Won't
change
that
whatsoever.
So
I
appreciate
this
discussion.
I
oppose
this
ordinance.
Let's
approve
the
Slate,
that's
been
put
forward.
AA
I
understand,
there's
been
some
changes
already
that
have
solved
at
least
one
of
the
big
issues.
I
think
that
may
have
caused
some
of
this
heartburn
in
the
beginning
and
let's
get
to
work.
Let's
focus
on
the
important
issues:
Traffic
Safety
Management
fee.
We
talked
about
earlier,
or
act
236
flooding
all
these
other
issues,
let's
not
spend
this
year
trying
to
radically
change
the
form
of
government
in
the
City
of
Charleston
and
with
that
I
appreciate
everybody's
listening
to
me
and
we'll
go
from
there.
Thank
you
thank.
Z
It's
not
you're
right,
it's
not
and
the
reality
is,
is
and
I
support
the
strongly
informal
government,
but
the
mayor
does
not
manage
counsel.
He
doesn't
manage
us
and
I
said
this
before
all
of
the
employees
1700
plus
employees
who
work
for
the
City
of
Charleston.
That
strong
executive
gets
to
manage
that
and
that's
what
people
vote
him
in
office
for
he
has
not
voted
in
office
to
manage
city
council
as
he
does
employees.
Z
We
should
have
say
so
in
the
standing
committees
that
we
we
serve
upon.
You
on
a
number
of
occasions
have
said
that
we
are
and
I
will
ask
my
colleagues
for
a
little
bit
of
time
on
this
issue.
I
do
not
want
to
be
gambled
closed
on
this.
You,
you
councilmember
Appel,
and
you
have
been
writing
saying.
So
we
are
legislators
and
we
should
legislate
the
executive
branch
and
no
former
government
manages
the
legislative
branch.
Z
As
a
matter
of
fact,
the
example
you
brought
at
the
previous
meeting
on
this
I
agree
with
you
and
I
agree
with
you
today
that
let's
look
at
what
took
place
in
Washington,
some
of
us
don't
agree
with
it.
I
found
it
tremendously
interesting
to
watch.
I
stayed
up
till
one
o'clock
in
the
morning.
Looking
at
this
okay,
but
I'll
tell
you
what
it
was
transparent.
Z
It
was
front
for
all
to
see,
but
you
know
what
the
president
then
President
Biden
didn't
call
and
say:
hey
y'all,
stop
that
I'm
gonna
Point,
the
speaker
of
the
house,
I'm,
going
to
point
the
point,
the
the
chairman
of
ways
and
means
I'm
gonna,
appoint
the
chairperson
of
the
Appropriations
Committee,
our
armed
services
committee.
He
has
absolutely
nothing
to
say
with
that.
Your
example
about
County,
Council
I
think
it's
taken
out
of
context.
It's
a
good
example.
They
are
legislators,
okay
and
how
does
that
chairperson
of
legislative
of
County
Council?
Z
Get
there?
It's
the
members
of
council
who
vote
for
the
chairperson
and
you're
right
that
chairperson,
a
legislator
points
appoints
the
chairperson
of
the
Committees.
That's
all
we're
talking
about
here
and
even
in
the
due
respect
to
the
mayor's
position,
The
Proposal
is:
he
recommends
with
the
advice
and
consent
of
counseling.
Z
Now
one
of
the
things
that
this
ordinance
lacks
and
I
was
going
to
add
this
to
it
is,
and
we
could
tweak
it
because
we
need
input
from
every
council
member
those
legislatures
in
the
case
of
the
national
government,
have
steering
commitments
and
it's
the
steering
committees
that
Set
the
various
committees
in
their
house
and
the
same
thing
in
the
general
assembly.
Okay,
obviously
County
Council.
Z
The
manner
in
which
we
would
appoint
ourselves
should
not
be
down
on
the
floor.
For
example,
councilmember
Parker
said
at
the
last
meeting
and
I
never
thought
about
it.
This
way,
certain
committees
from
a
regional
standpoint
in
the
city
didn't
represented
from
the
standpoint
of
Daniel
keinhoy,
Daniel,
Island,
King,
Hoy,
the
peninsula,
the
James
Allen
Johns,
Island,
Etc
and
one
of
the
ones
she
brought
up.
I
bought
a
light
turned
on
what
you
said
that
the
real
estate
committee,
the
real
estate
committee,
has
five
people
on
it.
Z
The
mayor
who
lives
west
Ashley
I
live
West,
Ashley
council
member
Appel.
You
live
West,
Ashley
and
council
member
lives,
west
Ashley
from
a
demographic
or
Regional
standpoint.
We
can
do
better.
Okay,
if
we
had
six
members
on
the
committee
and
the
chairperson
could
not
vote
for
a
time
most
cases
Robert
rules.
The
order
allows
for
that.
In
some
cases
we
have
suspended
that
rule.
Z
But
if
we
had
six
members
on
each
standing
committee,
it
will
enable
us
from
a
the
point
that
councilmember
Parker
brought
up
to
represent
the
area
from
a
regional
standpoint.
I
think
better,
but
the
reality
is.
Is
the
mayor
should
not
use
that
Power
to
remove
experience,
because
you
disagree
or
agree
with
a
council
member,
a
member
of
council.
That
is
not
a
power
that
the
mayor,
because
he's
a
part
of
the
executive
branch
should
have
over
legislators
and
that's
what
you're
advocating
I
agree
with
your
opinion.
Z
Z
Collectively
we
serve
the
exact
same
people.
The
mayor
does
and
to
say
that
his
agenda,
we
all
run
separately
well,
I,
don't
run
on
a
team
okay
when
I'm
not
for
real
election
I'm,
not
on
a
team.
I
put
my
full
myself
before
the
people.
Most
of
us
do
and
we
ask
to
serve
them
and
when
those
people
vote
for
us,
they
are
actually
thinking.
We
truly
are
their
voice
being
carried
forward
now
when
that
voice
is
muffled
one
way
or
the
other,
because
an
executive
decision
we
shouldn't
remain
quiet
about
that.
Z
That's
what
this
wonderful
flaw
of
democracy
is
about.
We
should
not
when
experience
gets
moved
and
that
experience
has
an
idea
that
potentially
could
lead
to
a
tax
deduction
for
every
citizen.
We
shouldn't
look
the
other
way,
and
that
should
be
the
talk
of
the
water
cooler.
We
should
do
something
about
it
and
that's
what
this
does
and
to
say
that
we
gonna
have
a
uncivilized
method
of
going
about
establishing
committees.
Z
One
thing
we
have
amongst
all
of
us
here
is:
we
respect
one
another.
We
don't
speak
about
one
another
in
a
same
way.
There
are
times
when
some
of
us
have
had
tragedies
in
our
families,
illness,
Etc.
And
what
do
we
do?
We
reach
out
as
allies
we
reach
out
as
friends,
that's
not
to
decorum
that
we
walk
on
this
historic
chamber
that
the
chief
of
police
kind
of
alluded
to
he
not
kind
of
alluded
to
that.
He
alluded
to.
Z
Z
Our
ability
to
represent
those
who
sent
us
here
to
to
speak
for
them.
I
had
a.
We
had
a
colleague
in
Columbia,
a
city
council
person
who
they
had
to
measure
up
there
to
switch
from
the
weakness
to
the
strong
man.
She
called
me
and
asked
me
what
was
my
opinion
on
it.
I
told
I
believe
in
the
strong
man.
Oh
my
God
man
and
she
said
what
happens,
and
this
was
a
lady
on
Council
for
a
while
up
there
in
Colombia.
Z
Z
I
said
you
ought
to
bring
that
to
the
floor.
Council.
If
your
man
does
that
to
you
and
let
everybody
know
because
of
whatever
disagreement,
the
man
is
not
cleaning
ditches
in
your
neighborhood
because
he's
not
doing
he's
certain
young
Constitution
they're,
not
putting
any
new
parks
and
new
equipment
in
your
neighborhood.
Why
would
you
stay
quiet
about
that?.
Z
So
it
is
the
portion
that
I
think
some
feel
that
the
strong
men
form
a
government
has
to
have
some
ruling
Factor
over
council
members.
That
is
incorrect
in
the
generals
in
the
in
the
general
assembly.
The
governor
does
not
appoint
the
Speaker
of
the
House.
The
governor
doesn't
appoint
the
chairman
of
Ways
and
Means
Committee,
none
of
those
committees,
all
of
that
are
decided
by
the
legislators.
Z
I
understand
but
I
did
ask
my
colleagues
for
additional
time.
This
is
not
any
detraction
from
the
mayor.
What
it's
going
to
do
as
a
result
of
council
members
input
we're
going
to
get
to
serve
on
committees.
We'd
like
we're
going
to
get
this,
hopefully
serve
on
areas
that
we
wish.
We
could
have
got
on
that,
for
whatever
reason
one
choice
kept
us
off.
Z
AC
Just
in
response
to
you
councilman
Appel,
hopefully
you
all
have
an
agenda.
We
all
were
voted
by
our
constituents
on
specific
things.
They
want
us
to
address.
So
we
all
walk
in
with
an
agenda
no
different
than
the
mayor.
Okay,
and
we
all
have
to
do
the
same
thing
the
mayor
has
to
do.
You
got
to
get
seven
votes
to
get
it
through
I,
don't
care
what
your
agenda
is.
AC
AC
Okay,
I'm
here
to
serve
the
people
and
if
the
mayor
or
anybody
on
this
Council
puts
something
forward
that
I
agree
with
I
will
avoid
accordingly,
but
if
I
don't
regardless
of
their
agenda,
I'm
voting.
No,
so
let's
just
be
clear
here
we
all
have
agendas
and
because
he's
the
mayor,
he
still
has
to
get
seven
votes.
AC
AF
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
just
since
we're
on
it,
I
guess
I
I
just
want
to
understand.
You
know
again.
We
just
you
rolled
the
LA.
You
know
last
year's
committees
into
this
year.
So
that's
why
I
will
support
this
ordinance
because
I,
don't
I,
don't
really
understand
the
reasoning.
I
mean
we
have
some
some
council
members
that
are
on
nine
committees
somewhere
on
four.
Some
are
on
seven
I
I
know
I
understand
you
said
you
know
you
try
to
spread
it
out.
AF
AF
Do
this
that
or
the
other
I
think
I'm
the
perfect
example
whether
it's
the
mayor
choosing
or
this
Council
I'm,
probably
not
going
to
get
to
go
where
I
want
to
go
and
that's
fine,
but
we
I
will
again
point
out
when
we
have
four
individuals
living
in
West,
Ashley
and
one
on
the
peninsula
on
public
works.
We
are
not
spreading
that
out.
Okay,
everyone's
fighting
for
blood-
you
know,
flooding
hell
all
those
dollars.
We
have
an
engineer
on
Council
who
is
not
on
Public
Works
utilities.
AF
I
do
just
wish
I
understand
how
we're
going
to
get
there
as
a
council,
how
we're
going
to
decide
those
committees
but
I
I,
certainly
don't
I
can't
I
I
agree
with
you,
I
mean
I
I,
see
the
the
the
problem
here
with
a
mayor.
Appointing
committees
and
I
think
you
know,
I
can
be
the
perfect
example
of
that.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
mayor,
I,
wasn't
here
for
the
last
council
meeting,
so
I
had
the
opportunity
to
watch
it
last
night
via
YouTube,
and
it
was
It
was
kind
of
enlightening
because
seems
like
the
issue
just
came
out
of
I
would
say
nowhere,
but
it
was
It's
relatively
contemporary
past
couple
weeks,
maybe
a
month
right,
Keith,
right,
okay,
so
I'm
trying
to
put
myself
in
the
shoes
of
my
fellow
council
members
to
understand
the
nuances
of
of
the
argument.
I
do
see
both
old
concerns
regarding
the
autonomy.
A
The
mayor
should
have
giving
a
strong
mayor,
but
also
looking
at
some
of
the
committee
assignments.
Some
of
them
don't
make
sense
and
I'm
just
going
to
share,
because
you
know
the
whole
transparency.
The
mayor
had
reached
out
to
me
two
years
ago
and
asked
me
to
step
off
of
a
committee
and
I
did
it
was
not
a
transactional
discussion.
I
didn't
ask
you.
What
are
you
going
to
do
for
me?
A
My
fear
is
that
if
we
start
to
do
what
we're
what
we
are
suggesting
that
those
transactional
conversations
are
going
to
increase
and
it's
going
to
create
factions
and
alliances,
we
saw
it
with
redistricting
and
I'm,
seeing
it
now
and
I
will
flat
out,
say
the
reason
that
this
got
solved
was
behind
the
scenes.
A
couple
council
members
got
together
to
solve
that
issue.
That's
good,
there's
conversations,
I!
Guess
when
I
look
at
the
the
current
ordinance
as
it's
written
and
again
I
see
both
sides.
A
I
would
encourage
us
to
go
back
and
figure
out
the
how
because
there
is
no,
how
what
what
is
advise
and
consent.
I
don't
know
what
that
means.
Quite
frankly,
that's
what
my
concern
is
is
the
ambiguity
and
the
current
policy.
If
we
can
get
back
to
a
place
where
there
is
some
criteria
to
councilwoman
Parker's
suggestions.
Is
it
geography?
Is
it
a
work
in
work
experience?
A
He
definitely
should
be
on
the
real
estate,
but
I'm
not
sure
he
should
be
so
I
guess
what
I'm
saying
is
we
need
to
agree
on
the
criteria
so
when
we
come
to
council
to
to
have
this
discussion,
we're
basing
it
on
a
criteria,
and
it's
not
this
arbitrary
I
will
say
political
Alliance
or
maybe
I
pissed
you
off
one
day
and
it's
going
to
be
a
personal
grudge
match
against
me.
I,
don't
want
it
to
get
to
that.
So
I
think.
A
If
we
are
going
to
move
forward
with
this
type
of
ordinance,
we
need
to
establish
the
criteria
that
we're
all
agreeing
on
that.
The
mayor
picks
that
slate.
We
have
that
conversation
in
Council,
so
it's
more
clear
right
now,
it's
very
vague
and
I
would
just
ask
and
encourage
us
to
to
either
send
it
back
to
rules
committee
or
give
it
to
council
to
to
think
about
making
it
a
little
more
clear.
AG
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
you've
all
mentioned
my
engineering
background.
One
of
the
big
rules
in
engineering
is,
if
it
ain't
broke,
don't
fix
it
and
to
me
this
feels
like
something
that
isn't
broken.
You
know.
I
have
been
on
this
Council
for
less
than
a
year
now
the
mayor
appointed
me
to
a
number
of
different
committees
and
he's
been
in
this
job
for
much
longer
than
I
have
so
I
trusted
his
judgment.
AG
Think
that
that
we
will
I
I'm
concerned
that
if
we
bring
this
to
the
whole
body,
you've
mentioned
making
sausage
on
the
floor.
We're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
sausage
making
on
the
floor
Mr
wearing,
so
that
that's
my
biggest
concern
about
it.
I
I
think
it's
worked
well
so
far
and
I'm
inclined
to
vote
against
this.
E
B
My
call
well
I'll
be
glad
to
share
with
you
councilmember
and
my
colleagues
and
I
I
did
at
our
last
meeting
as
well
shared
how
I
felt
about
it.
First
of
all,
I
shared
that
it's
a
real
Balancing
Act
to
to
come
up
with
this
list,
they're,
not
enough
slots
for
everybody
to
have
everything
that
they'd
love
to
do
and
and
and
some
of
the
code
of
all
this
you
know
was
written
before
I
came
walked
in
the
door,
the
number
of
positions
on
a
given
committee.
B
B
Remember
as
when
I
got
elected
seven
years
ago,
I
don't
know
when
Council
decided
there'd
be
five
members
on
this
and
four
members
on
that,
and
but
but
anyway,
if
you,
if
you
go
by
the
parameters
of
the
code
that
was
in
place,
it's
a
real
Balancing
Act
to
to
do
this
and
and
I
sincerely
tried
as
new
members
come
along
to
gauge
their
interests
and
their
background
yeah.
We
have
an
engineer
that
didn't
get
on
the
Public
Works
committee,
but
it
don't
flood
on
Daniel
Island.
They
got
it.
B
You
know
they
figured
it.
You
know
they
have
some
other
issues
over
there
to
deal
with.
So
you
know
many
factors
go
into
that
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
so
I
I
will
vote
no
on
the
matter.
I
I
shared
last
time
and
I'll
I'll,
repeat
it.
We
all
work
for
the
citizens
of
Charleston
and
part
of
my
job
as
mayor
is
to
enforce
the
code
and
the
ordinances
that
we
as
a
body
pass
and
so
I
fully
respect
this
Council.
B
Whatever
y'all
decide,
we
decide
I'm
a
member
of
council
as
well.
You
know
I'm
going
to
do
my
damndest
to
to
to
put
that
in
place
and
make
that
happen.
That's
that's
what
I'll
do,
but
respectfully
and
I,
don't
know
that
I
could
have
said
it
better
than
council
member
Pell,
because
sometimes,
when
you
think
about
50
years
and
100
years
from
now
that
longer
view
of
how
things
work
and
how
they
should
work.
I
do
believe
that
this.
The
basic
system
we
have
in
place
is
is
a
good
one.
B
Don't
get
me
wrong,
I'm
all
for
tweaking
committees,
we
can
form
a
new
committee.
We
can
change
the
numbers
on
a
committee
that,
that's
all
you
know,
part
of
the
process
of
of
responding
to
the
needs
of
our
city.
But
if
you
look
at
the
long
term
of
as
the
city
as
a
whole,
as
an
administration
of
trying
to
be
in
sync
to
accomplish
the
goals
before
us,
I
I,
think
and
the
strong
mayor
form
of
government
I
think
having
the
mayor
being
able
to
make
these
appointments
is,
is
a
good
one.
E
If
I
can
then
comment
and
councilman
wearing
and
councilman
Gregory,
thank
you
all
for
for
bringing
us
to
our
attention
and
having
this
discussion
about
this.
There's
one
thing
a
little
bit
different
about
our
former
government.
The
councilman
was
making
some
comparisons
to
the
person
sitting
as
a
presiding
officer
of
this
legislative
chamber.
E
E
He's
a
member
of
council
and
he's
a
presiding
officer
of
Kansas
he's
a
speaker
of
the
house
and
essentially
he's
with
his
role
is:
is
that
when
you
go
back
and
look
at
some
of
the
old
statutes
and
ordinances
of
the
City
of
Charleston,
the
mayor
was
not
only
the
the
mayor
and
the
member
of
council.
He
was
also
the
judge
and
I
mean
everyone
said
he
was
he's
in
charge
of
the
Judiciary
as
a
Judiciary
of
one.
E
E
I
think
that
the
discussion
about
this
is
bringing
out
some
really
important
issues
that
councilman
Paul
Walker
brought
out.
Councilman
we're
wearing
and
Gregory
brought
out
about
the
assignments
of
of
all
this
and
I
I.
Don't
want
this
to
sound
like
a
personal
attack
on
anybody
and
if
I
do
that,
I
apologize
from
the
very
beginning,
but
there
have
been
issues
on
how
the
appointments
have
been
made
on
this
committee.
E
E
It
is
critically
important,
I
think
that
we
have
and
maintained
this
idea
of
a
strong
male
form
of
government
and
you're
right
councilman.
The
mayor
has
control
over
the
employees
we
don't
and
that
sort
of
sets
to
the
mayor's
agenda
at
the
very
least
as
to
what
goes
on
what
what
I
don't
want
to
see
happening
is
that
we
we
go
down,
and
lawyers
use
this
term
the
slippery
slippery
slope.
E
The
politics
do
get
involved
in
some
of
the
appointments.
All
that
being
said,
we've
got
to
support.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
the
institution
of
this
government
and
I
I,
walk
into
this
chamber
of,
like
you,
do
councilman
Waring,
realizing
the
historical
context
that
we
sit
in
behind.
You
is
the
the
role
of
of
people
who.
R
E
E
Only
because
I
think
this
critically
important
that
my
role
as
a
council
member
to
protect
the
institution
of
the
government
that
exists
right
now,
recognizing
recognizing
very
clearly
the
problems
that
have
been
brought
up
on
how
this
is
being
handled
in
the
past,
and
it's
still
some
of
the
issues
that
we
need
to
be
addressing
on.
On
fixing
this
as
well.
Thank.
AA
AA
I
I,
maybe
if
there
was
a
different
mayor-
and
there
were
more
problems
with
with
this
process-
I'd-
be
more
inclined
to
check
the
mayor's
power,
but
that
just
hasn't
been
the
case
here.
I'm
also
well:
okay,
relax,
I,
I.
Think
that
there's
also
I'm
uncomfortable
with
some
of
the
some
of
the
words
that
have
been
thrown
around
in
this
debate,
so
regionalism
has
been
introduced
into
this.
AA
Ultimately,
what's
what
changed
my
mind
about
this
is
watching
you
know,
maybe
the
difference.
We
have
I
watched
that
process
in
the
House
of
Representatives
and
if
I
talk
about
it
too
much
I'm
going
to
say
words
that
can
be
fine,
but
ultimately
that
was
resolved
through
a
background
deal
and
that
backroom
deal
may
result
in
in
the
United
States
House
of
Representatives
not
meeting
our
financial
obligations
in
the
country
and
that
I'm
not
saying
we're
anywhere
close
to
that
I.
Don't
actually
think
the
House
of
Representative
is
a
Burma.
AA
Our
branches
of
government
are
are
a
great
analogy
for
city
government
for
exactly
the
reason
that
council
member
shade
raised
that
and
there's
a
member
of
city
council.
Essentially
he
votes
with
the
legislature,
which
is
a
significant
difference,
but
I
I
just
has
worked
out
well
I
think
it
actually
adds
to
the
collegiality
that
you
talked
about.
AA
You
know
I
think
we're
all
sort
of
equals
and-
and
we
have
the
opportunity
to
engage
with
the
mayor
about
the
about
the
process.
I
personally
have
been
pretty
happy
with
my
committee
assignments,
despite
my
profession,
not
applying
particularly
well
to
Public
Works,
but
I
this.
This
is
working
for
me.
It's
working
for
my
constituents.
AC
B
C
AC
AC
B
L
B
AD
You
Mr
Mayor
I'm,
going
to
be
I'm
gonna,
be
brief,
I
mean
I.
Think
much
like
many
of
the
things
we
do
here,
including
what
we
did
tonight
by
electing
council
member
saccharin
as
the
mayor
part
time
on
advice
and
consent.
It's
a
good
idea
and
you
know
having
some
input
into
what
committees
we
serve
on,
to
serve
our
interests,
to
make
sure
that
we
put
forward
our
best
foot
as
a
city
collectively.
AD
The
city
council
is
a
good
idea
and
I
can
tell
you
just
from
experience
of
this
week
if
you
fear
that
we're
going
to
descend
into
Anarchy
on
the
floor
and
have
a
big
brawl
over
it.
Council,
member
Brady
and
I
had
lovely
conversations
this
week
about
many
things
in
the
city,
including
committee
assignments,
and
we
worked
through
an
issue.
It's
I
mean
it's.
The
girl
out
there
right
I
mean
my
chairmanship
of
TNT.
AD
We
worked
through
it
back
to
the
mayor's
office,
he's
put
a
slate
forward
and
with
his
assignments
we
then
have
advice
and
consent
on
that.
I
mean
that's
all
this
amendment.
All
this
amendment
does
is
give
us
a
back
door
say
on
all
this
and
I.
Don't
think
I
think
actually
we're
going
to
miss
an
opportunity
for
us
to
communicate
better.
AD
If
we
don't
do
this
during
the
time
between
the
end
of
the
year
and
the
beginning
of
the
year,
talk
about
committees
get
through
it
and
I
suspect
that
it
will
not
be
a
brawl,
but
it
will
actually
end
up
being
a
benefit
to
all
of
us
to
talk
to
each
other,
so
I'm
a
vote
for
it.
I
I,
don't
think
it's
a
radical
change
of
governance,
style
or
governance
at
all.
It's
just
a
manner
of
which
the
mayor
listens
to
us.
He
knows
what
our
interests
are.
AD
He
knows
what
our
differences
are,
and
he
knows
some
of
the
things
that
get
our
crawl
a
little
bit
all
right,
I
mean
that's,
not
been
any
secret
and
we
can
work
through
that,
but
I
think
having
a
backstop
and
having
us
give
some
input
into
our
and
all
of
ours
collected
wisdom
on
the
Committees.
We
sit
on
it's
a
good
thing:
I,
don't
think
it's
a
negative
I,
don't
think
it's
a
radical
change
of
governance,
I
think
it's
just
a
piece
of
input
and
I
suspect.
AD
If
we
do
this
and
we'll
see
how
the
vote
goes,
that
you
will
collectively
think
it
was
a
good
thing
that
we
all
had
this,
we
could
have
a
conversation
with
each
other
through
the
mayor's
office.
Give
some
input-
and
you
know
his
job-
is
not
only
the
lead.
It's
to
listen
and
I
suspect
that
through
this
process,
it
will
go
to
his
office
and
the
list
will
be
more
representative
of
our
interests.
AD
I
think
seniority
has
something
to
do
with
this
experience
and
something
to
do
with
this
geography
clearly
has
something
to
do
with
this
I
mean
some
committees
are
more
heavily
weighted
to
some
areas
of
the
city
than
others.
That's
just
a
fact,
and-
and
it
will
all
work
out
so
I
Heard
council
member
Greg,
say
if
it
ain't
broke,
don't
fix
it.
AD
I
I
agree
with
that,
but
I
think
here
we're
not
fixing
anything
we're
giving
each
of
us
an
opportunity
of
input
into
a
system
that
can
be
better,
so
I'm
gonna
vote
for
it.
I
would
encourage
all
of
you
to
think
of
it
in
that
vein,
that
this
is
a
chance
for
us
to
communicate
to
be
the
best
that
we
could
be
to
put
forward
the
best
leadership
we
can
in
places
through
the
advice
of
the
mayor
and
the
consent
of
the
council.
AD
AD
B
Well,
if
I
may
add
I
I
think
honestly,
your
example
is
a
case
in
point
of
of
it's
not
broke.
Why
fix
it?
In
fact,
when
I
sent
out
this
list
to
all
of
you,
I
asked
if
you
had
any,
you
know,
suggestions
or
recommended
changes
to
please
reach
out
to
me
and
the
one
person
that
did
was
the
letter.
I
got
from
council
member
seekings
and
yes,
I
was
listening.
I
took
your
letter.
I
spoke
with
the
other
party.
B
Z
Z
One
of
the
main
points
that
councilmember
SackMan
came
up
with
was
very
valid
that
where
to
and
how
it's
not
finished,
the
piece
about
the
mere
fact
that
councilwoman
Parker
can
feel
legitimately
that
some
of
the
areas
she's
going
to
potentially
ask
for
I,
don't
put
words
in
the
mouth
but
I'm
trying
to
remember
what
you
said
that
she's
not
going
to
get
there's
something
wrong
with
that.
Councilmember
Greg.
Z
Z
Why
would
anyone
of
one
of
us
on
Council
feel
like
I,
mean
I'd
like
to
be
on
Community
Development
and
if
I
ask
for
that,
I'm
not
going
to
get
on
there?
I
I
didn't
think
that
atmosphere
exists,
but
if
any
one
of
us
feel
that
way,
if
one
of
us
feel
that
way,
we
should
all
be
concerned
about
that.
It
is
not
finished
from
the
standpoint
of
I.
I
do
feel
that
we
can
have
six
members
on
the
committee
Mr
Mayor.
Z
Obviously
you
would
be
on
part
of
the
six
and
the
idea
about
having
an
odd
number
is
try
to
get
passage.
So
you,
you
have
three
three
to
two
one
way
or
the
other
now
with
six
you're
subject
to
have
a
tie,
vote
but
I,
don't
believe
the
chairperson.
If
should
you
have
six
should
be
able
to
vote
the
creative
time
now.
Councilman
Brady
knows
that's
part
of
Robert
rules
on
in
some
cases
somebody
somebody's,
suspend
that
rule
I
think
on
certainly
standing
committees.
The
chairperson
should
not
be
able
to
create
a
time.
Z
They
certainly
can
vote
up
or
down,
but
not
to
create
a
tie
that
would
solve
that
issue
and
it
would
keep
us
from
having
a
quorum
Council
on
every
standing
committee.
So
we
won't
be.
We
won't
have
the
number
seven.
Potentially,
you
only
have
some
better
ideas
back
to
the
way
the
whys
and
hows
of
it
is.
Z
Z
Okay,
my
point
is:
there's
a
methodology
and
council
member
seeking
to
spot
on
when
he
says
it
improves
the
situation.
Okay,
somehow
you
all
looking
at
us
cutting
somebody
needs
from
underneath
it.
That's
not
the
case.
The
system
needs
to
be
improved
and
you're
right.
Council
member
said
you
said
at
one
time
the
mayor
used
to
sit
as
a
judge
that
was
changed
for
the
better
by
the
way.
B
AF
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
I
mean
I,
guess
not
we're
done,
but
I
I
do
think
I
mean
Council
overseas.
You
made
it.
Obviously
that's
a
great
point.
I
mean
I,
think
I
think
it
can
do
nothing
but
improve
the
conversation
and
I
truly
think
that
sitting
here
saying
you
know
yes,
this
room
should
be
nonpartisan.
I
have
I
have
witnessed
firsthand.
This
is
not.
AF
This
is
not
a
non-partisan
room
at
times,
so
to
think
that,
coming
in
with
certain
values
and
viewpoints
that
may
be
different
than
the
mayors,
absolutely
that
affects
committees
and
where
you
go,
and
what
you're
working
on
second
thing
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
creating
alliances
and
doing
you
know
what
did
you
call
transactions?
You
know
it's
going
to
be
become
transactional
again,
I
think
if
we
focus
on
geography,
you
know
that's,
why
I
pinpointed
that
but
transactional
I,
don't
think,
there's
necessarily
anything
wrong
with
that.
AF
That's
for
the
communication
aspect
comes
in.
You
might
have
things
in
your.
You
know,
I
think.
Affordable
housing
is
a
perfect
example.
James
Island,
you
know,
let's
be
honest,
is
that
is
that
a
top
priority
for
James
Island?
Well,
but
are,
are
we
go?
Do
we
have
the
money?
Do
we
have
the
money
you
know
do?
Can
we
again
again?
Do
we
have
the
money?
Do
we
have?
Yes?
Okay,
it's
okay,
I'm,
just
saying
there
are
things
that
certain
districts
struggle
with
councilmember
Greg
doesn't
deal
with
flooding.
AF
Okay,
he
doesn't
deal
with
flooding
great,
he
doesn't
care
about
public
works,
I
have
of
multi-jurisdictional
components
on
James
Island
that
I
struggle
with
daily
as
far
as
flooding
just
putting
that
out
there.
So
those
are
the
type
of
things
that
I
do
think
it's
okay
to
in
some
ways
be
transactional
with
these
committees
and
that's
where
the
conversation
around
this
table
comes
in
it.
Doesn't
it's
not
necessarily
political?
You
know
one
person
isn't
deciding
it's
it's
it's
what
works
for
you,
what
works
for
you!
You
know
so
things
like
that.